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UH, TO CONCLUDE THE JUDGE REPORT ABOUT, UH, ABSENCES.UM, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ATTEND TO, UH, GOING FORWARD.
UH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, FOR JANUARY, UM, SOME MORE FORMAL, UH, UH, MESSAGING ON, UH, ATTENDANCE, UH, FOR THIS, UH, COMMISSION.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S GONNA BE AN ADVISORY THAT IS SIMILAR TO EVERY COMMISSION IN THE CITY.
UH, SO WE'LL DO THAT IN JANUARY.
UH, AND THEN NEXT ON THE, UH, INFORMAL CHAIRS IS, UH, THE METER COUNT UPDATE IS REQUEST, UH, TO DO, UH, COUNT ON METERS THAT WERE OPERATIONAL METERS MEETING, UH, MAINTENANCE.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE, UH, EDDIE SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, ALONG WITH, UH, AN ENFORCEMENT UPDATE, WE WERE ALSO, UH, HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE FACT THAT WE HADN'T SEEN AN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND WE WERE, UH, BEGINNING TO, UH, HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT.
AND, UH, IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR REVENUE UP, UH, THE OPTICS ARE, WELL, GOSH, IF THERE'S NOT AN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO FEED THE METERS.
UM, SO EDDIE, DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? YEAH, SO FOR PARKING METERS, I DID CONTACT OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU.
I DID ASK 'EM A FEW QUESTIONS OF HOW THEIR TEAM IS NOTIFIED WHEN A, WHEN A METER'S DOWN, AND THEY LET ME KNOW THAT THEY DO CHECK ON.
SO WE HAVE AN IPS WEBSITE THAT WE CHECK ON THE BACKEND AND IT'LL TELL US WHEN A METER IS DOWN.
UH, SO THAT'S HOW THEY TYPICALLY CHECK, UM, EVERY OTHER DAY.
AND THEN I DID ASK HOW LONG, WHEN A METER IS DOWN, HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THEM TO, TO BRING IT BACK UP.
AND IT'S JUST TYPICALLY IT TAKES A DAY, UNLESS IT HAPPENS OVER THE WEEKEND, THEN THEY FIX THOSE, THE NEXT SCHEDULED WORKDAY.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, NORMALLY, UH, I DID ASK REGARDING, UH, HOW OFTEN A PARKING METER'S DOWN AND WHEN PER DAY.
UH, THERE'S TYPICALLY ABOUT 15 PER DAY, AND IT INCREASES DURING THE WINTER SEASON JUST BECAUSE OF THE EFFECTS OF DAYLIGHTS DAYLIGHT ON THE SOLAR PANEL.
BUT THEY TYPICALLY, ONCE THEY SEE 'EM DOWN, THEY TYPICALLY BRING 'EM BACK UP, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT, I DID ASK HIM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING A DIFF A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
SO, PARKING ENFORCEMENT HAS NOTIFIED ME THAT THEY DO HAVE A DESIGNATED OFFICER WHO ENFORCES FIVE TIMES A WEEK.
UH, PARKING ENFORCEMENT DOES TRY TO ENFORCE SECOND STREET MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, BUT THIS CAN BE CHALLENGED DUE TO HAVING TO RESPOND TO CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND DUE TO THEM HAVING, UH, A LITTLE BIT LESS MANPOWER AT THE MOMENT.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO UPDATES THAT I HAVE REGARDING OUR PARKING METERS AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
UM, THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
UM, PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SEPARATE THAN SWORN OFFICERS, SO A PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WOULDN'T BE CALLED TO ANOTHER PART OF THE DISTRICT FOR, UH, CALLS TO SERVICE.
SO IT WOULD BE A CALL TO SERVICE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO ANOTHER PARKING, LIKE, UH, OTHER SITUATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
I KNOW WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T GET TOO MUCH DETAILS, AND I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT.
UH, I CAN ASK PARKING ENFORCEMENT, BUT I KNOW THEY DO ASSIST ON A LITTLE BIT OTHER ITEMS APART FROM PARKING ENFORCEMENT, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THEM AS WELL.
LIKE, IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE PARKED ILLEGALLY IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, I HAD IT HAPPEN TO ME ONE TIME I CALLED AND THEY'RE LIKE, I CAN TO GET THIS PERSON CALL.
I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WE'RE NOT SEEING THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON A RADIO BASIS.
PLUS, IF THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA RIGHT, THEN SHOULD THIS AREA BE THERE DESIGNATED, AND MAYBE THIS WOULD BE THE, THE REQUEST WE COULD ASK JUST, JUST AN IDEA.
CAN WE GET A REPORT OF HOW MANY TICKETS ARE WRITTEN EACH DAY? LIKE, IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE A BUTTON THEY COULD PUSH SO THEY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD SHOW IF THEY'RE ON BII, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
IF WE COULD GET ANALYTICS ON ENFORCEMENT AND REVENUE, THAT WOULD TELL US IF THAT IS UP OR DOWN, UH, IN THE LAST QUARTER OR THE LAST MONTH.
YEAH, I CAN ASK THEN WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY KNOW, NOT ASKING THEM TO RECREATE THE WHEEL OR ANYTHING, BUT THAT IF THERE'S A, A THING THAT THEY COULD HIT A BUTTON, LIKE, HEY, SECTION THIS REPORT, HOW MANY TICKETS WERE ISSUED THIS WEEK, NEXT, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF SEE THAT.
THAT'D BE SUPER INTERESTING TO KNOW, ACTUALLY.
OKAY, SO WE'LL DO THAT IN JANUARY.
UH, NEXT ON CHAIR'S REPORT IS THE, UH, UH, BUS STOP, UH, THE REQUEST TO RELOCATE THE BUS STOP, UH, AT THE TOP OF THE STREET HERE WHERE, UH, CITIBANK USED TO BE.
UM, EDDIE HAS AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL.
YEAH, SO I, I, I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
UM, I DID FOLLOW UP WITH HIM PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK, BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP AGAIN WITH A, I'LL BE AT CITY HALL TODAY, UH, SO HOPEFULLY I CAN RUN INTO HIM AND ASK HIM AGAIN.
UM, LAST MONTH WE HAD ASKED IF THE PARKING COMMISSION CAN ABSORB THE COST, UH,
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THROUGH OUR SCOPE OF WORK, UH, FOR HOLIDAY DECOR AND SHORE, UH, TO ALLEVIATE, UH, THAT BURDEN FROM THE BSBA A'S BUDGET, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE BSBA TO REDIRECT THAT MONEY INTO OTHER PROJECTS.UH, THE ANSWER FROM THE CITY WAS, YES.
UH, THIS COMMISSION CAN ABSORB, UH, IN THEIR SCOPE OF, OF, UH, UH, ITEMS TO PAY FOR DECOR.
UH, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE, UH, GETTING BIDS, UH, FROM THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS.
WE'LL START THAT PROCESS, UH, IN THE EARLY PART OF, UH, CALENDAR YEAR 24 IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
UH, AND WE'LL COORDINATE THAT THROUGH THE SBA.
UM, AND THEN I WANT PUBLICLY ENTER INTO THE RECORD THAT, THAT, UH, I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT, UH, UH, I ACTUALLY AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THOSE SERVICES.
UM, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THIS, UH, BID PROCESS OR THE SELECTION OF THE COMPANY THAT DOES THAT.
DO, DO YOU NEED SOMEONE ON THE TEAM HERE? COMMISSION STEP IN.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT WHEN WE BRING IT UP.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO A COMMISSION FOR THAT AND, UM, GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE'LL AGENDA THAT FOR FEBRUARY, MARCH OF, UH, 24.
UH, AND THEN LAST FOR CHAIRS REPORT.
'CAUSE THIS IS THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS FOR AND AMAZING YEAR HARD WORK.
AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS DONE.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF WONDERFUL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL THROUGH TO THE NEXT YEAR, UH, AND HOPEFULLY BRING THEM TO FRUITION.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE, UM, HAS A LOT OF ENERGY TO BRING, UH, MORE GREAT PROJECTS, UH, THAT AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND THE CITY STAFF, UH, FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET AND FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE SUPPORT IN COMING TO MEETINGS AND BRINGING THE DYNAMIC TO IT THAT MAKE THIS AN EFFECTIVE COMMISSION, UH, SO THAT WE CAN DO THESE PROJECTS.
THAT REALLY OUR GOAL, UH, IS QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS, UH, THAT, THAT HELP, EXCUSE ME, MAKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER FOR RESIDENTS, UH, STAKEHOLDERS, SHOPKEEPERS, UH, AND VISITORS.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE MONEY WE SPEND, AS WE ALL KNOW, ARE THOSE QUALITY LIFE PROJECTS.
UH, SO FOR THAT, I SAY THANK YOU FOR A GREAT YEAR AND, AND, UH, EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON.
UH, WE'LL MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 19.
I'M GOING TO APPROVE THE MINUTES ON OCTOBER, 1923.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON MINUTES FROM, UH,
I DUNNO IF I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MINUTES.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEW FORMAT, UH, THAT JUST POPPED OUT, IS KAREN BLAIR.
SO, SO, YEAH, WE DID ACTUALLY HAVE, WE DID SWITCH OUR SYSTEMS FROM, UH, UM, FROM LEGISLATOR TO OUR, WHAT'S CALLED ONE MEETING.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR CITY CLERKS ACTUALLY ASSISTING US BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE AT FOR, AT LEAST FOR THIS COMMISSION THAT WE'RE DOING WITH NEW MINUTES.
UH, I DO WANT TO ALSO MAKE A POINT, UM, A NOTE THAT FOR THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITSELF THERE IS THERE, IT MIGHT BE MISSING ON, ON A FEW ITEMS ON THERE.
THAT WAS AN ERROR ON OUR END AS WELL.
YEAH, IT MISPRINTED ON THAT ONE.
UH, BUT THEY WILL BE POSTED AND WE WILL DISTRIBUTE 'EM ONLINE AS WELL.
I, RIGHT NOW OUR SYSTEMS ARE FOR, YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT ONLINE.
SO OUR SYSTEMS ARE DOWN RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, AS SOON AS THEY'RE UP, WE CAN SEND IT, WE CAN DO A FOLLOW UP IF, IF NEEDED.
ALSO, CAN WE JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YOUR NAMES AND FACES.
IF, IF, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA MOTION A FIRST AND SECOND, IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WE GOT BLAIR FOR THE FIRST, ON THE LAST ONE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE SECOND IS.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST SAY YOUR NAMES WHEN YOU DO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ASK.
YEAH, WE DID A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
UM, SO WE NEED A, UH, SECOND ON THE MOTION.
UH, ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING OCTOBER 31.
UH, WE'LL FIND THAT ON PAGE, FAXED IN, RIGHT? BUT THERE IS ONE ON THE,
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IT'S ON PAGE THREE.YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE WITH THAT.
WITH THE NEW TAKE, THE NEW RATE TAKING EFFECT ON OCTOBER 1ST.
OUR REVENUE IS UP, REVENUE IS UP 14% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
THE YEAR TO DATE REVENUE IS ALSO UP 14% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
JUST 'CAUSE IT, IT'S BEGINNING OUR, OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR.
UH, UH, THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE IS $511,986.
THE TOTAL IS DOWN FROM LAST MONTH DUE TO THE $200,000 THAT IS TAKEN OUT OF THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
THAT IS PLEDGED TO THE REPAY, UH, REPAYMENT DEBT SERVICE AND ASSOCIATED COST WITH THE COMMUNITY FACILITY DISTRICT IN, UH, BELMONT SHORE.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN I ACTUALLY DID PRINT THIS OUT, UH, OUR FISCAL YEAR, OUR NUMBERS WEREN'T, OUR TOTAL NUMBERS WEREN'T A CLOSEOUT, UH, AT THE SAME DAY.
BUT I ACTUALLY JUST CHECKED THE NUMBER YESTERDAY AND THE OCTOBER NUMBER FOR OCTOBER IS $95,772 AND 73 CENTS.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHEN IT NEXT WEEK, I TYPICALLY WILL CHECK AGAIN AND SEE IF THE NUMBER CLOSES.
OKAY, GOOD ON, I SEE THAT THE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE MATERIALS AND OPERATIONS NUMBER IS LIKE $10,000 HIGHER THAT THIS MONTH THAN, THAN, OH NO.
SORRY, THAT'S, I'M GONNA GET THE ACTUAL OH, YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S 12,000 VERSUS THE LAST YEAR.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INCENTIVE AS TO WHY THE OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE MATERIALS COST ME UP $10,000 FOR, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME, AARON? UM, SO I SEE THE REVENUE THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED YEP.
THE MAINTENANCE AND MATERIALS.
WE BUYING NEW STUFF OR WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT COMPRISES THAT? 12,000? YEAH.
I'VE HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL REVENUE REPORT.
UH, BUT I CAN PULL DOWN UP THAT FOR THE BIG BES BIG, IT COULD BE FOR THE BIG BES, IT COULD BE, IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE COST.
THAT, THAT IS GOING FOR, FOR OCTOBER SECURITY INCREASE TOO.
AND, AND THAT THIS SEEMS LIKE JUST METER STUFF.
THIS ISN'T LIKE ADDITIONAL, THIS IS JUST THE METER FROM SUMMARY.
THIS ISN'T LIKE THE EXTRA STUFF WE DO BY PARKING OR SECURITY OR NO, NO.
THIS THE, I THINK THE MAINTENANCE MATERIALS AND OPERATIONS IS THE BIG VALUES THAT WE JUST PUT INTO IN MOTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T GET CHARGED FOR SOMETHING THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT'S BIG PURCHASE.
WE HAVE BIG BUILDINGS AGENDAS TODAY DOING THAT.
CAN WE, CAN WE VERIFY THAT? YEAH, OF COURSE.
UM, I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP ON OUR ACTUAL SYSTEM, BUT SINCE OUR SYSTEMS ARE DOWN, OH YEAH.
BUT I CAN, I CAN DEFINITELY FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE FINANCIAL REPORT YOU ANY PUBLIC ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
ALL IN FAVOR? UH, ITEM THREE IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE FILE ALONG STATUS.
SO IT'S, I CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THIS ONE TOO.
IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, THERE WERE 3,531 BOARDINGS AND 96, UH, WRITERS.
AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE A REPORT BY BUSINESS, RIGHT? IS THAT JUST NOT PRINT? THE PRINT? I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND PAGE.
UM, WHEN I, UH, WHEN I SEND OUT, I, WHEN I, I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL.
IT'S EVERYONE'S, UH, WHEN THE WEBSITE IS UP, THERE WAS A MISPRINT ON THE AGENDAS.
BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, SECOND, UH, HAS THE HIGHEST RECORDINGS.
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I THOUGHT GUYS WOULD, IS THERE ANYBODY ON THIS LIST? GUYS? THAT A BUSINESS THAT'S CLOSED LIST? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THE LIST.I THINK, UH, EARL SANDWICH WAS CLOSING THIS WEEK OR MONTH, BUT THEY HAVE ONE, BUT THEY'RE STILL OPEN REGULARS.
THEY GOT A COUPLE WEEKS MAYBE.
WE'RE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND I, I HAVE TO SAY, UM, A LOT OF THANK YOUS TO, UH, UH, HEATHER AND THE BSBA FOR THE EFFORT, UH, FOR GETTING THIS OUT.
REALLY, WE NEED MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON THIS PROGRAM, DEDICATED FUNDS JUST FOR THIS PROGRAM, UH, THAT DO NOT COME OUT OF PARKING VEHICLE REVENUE.
SO, UH, WE, WE'D LOVE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS.
UM, WHEN WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT THAT.
UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE.
KAREN BLAIR, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND, UH, TO RECEIVE AND FILE A LONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PERMIT.
YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING.
WELL, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU COULD SEND, UM, THOSE OF US IN THE AUDIENCE, THAT SECOND PAGE AS WELL.
I'LL GET EVERYONE'S NAME, UM, AND IF IN AN EMAIL IF YOU WANT, AND THEN I CAN, I THINK IT'S WRITTEN DOWN.
UM, I'M GONNA BREAK PROTOCOL A LITTLE BIT AND ASK YOU, JULIE, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU, UH, UTILIZE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT A LOT.
DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION ON HOW WE CAN, UH, MOVE THIS MESSAGING FURTHER INTO THE COMMUNITY? UM, I, I HEARD SOME FEEDBACK ONCE THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, THAT THE BUSES WERE DIRTY AND NOT TIMING AND THAT KIND OF THING.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT GREAT BUS DRIVERS.
THEY'VE ALWAYS GOT AIR CONDITIONING WHEN NEEDED.
WE'VE GOT SO MANY GOING NOW WITH BOTH 1 21 AND 1 31, AND THERE'S TIMES WHERE THERE'S, UM, USUALLY IT'S EVERY HALF HOUR, BUT THERE'S TIMES WHERE IT'S EVERY 20 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, BUSIER.
UM, SO IT'S, AND IT GOES, YOU KNOW, QUITE LATE NOW, STARTS PRETTY EARLY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE OTHER THAN THAT KIND OF STUFF LIKE MARKETING, UM, WHY YOU USE IT? UM, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT ELSE TO DO TO, OKAY.
IS IT ON AN APP? IS THERE AGPS LOCATION ON IT? CAN YOU SEE HOW FAR AWAY IT IS? I ALWAYS USE, UM, MY GOOGLE MAPS ON MY PHONE, MY IPHONE, AND, UM, I JUST PUT IN MY DESTINATION AND IT, I CAN LOOK UP, UM, I CAN LOOK UP BASED ON A DEPARTURE TIME BASED ON OUR ARRIVAL TIME.
AND ALSO, UM, THE LAST BUS OF THE, THE DAY YOU CAN LOOK UP ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO IT'S REALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF FILTERS AND, AND CONTROLS THAT YOU CAN USE VERY EASILY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE REAL TIME FEEDBACK LIKE UBER OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, UH, LYFT OR YOU CAN, YEAH.
YOU PEOPLE, YOU CAN ALSO, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, YOU CAN TYPE IN THE, THE STOCK NUMBER, LIKE LB TRANSIT AND THEN THE STOP NUMBER, I THINK.
UM, AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHEN THE NEXT BUS IS COMING.
SO THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF COOL TOOLS.
MAYBE, MAYBE, UM, MAYBE I CAN WORK WITH HEATHER TO COME UP WITH OR LB TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF LITTLE CHEAT SHEET OR SOMETHING.
UM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN DUGGAN'S OFFICE, UH, JUST CAME INTO THE MEETING.
UH, WE'RE ON ITEM THREE, NICK.
UM, WE'RE LISTENING TO THE BUS PASS, UH, TRANSIT REPORT AND THE ASK FROM THE COMMISSION TO COUNCILMAN DUGGAN'S OFFICE.
COULD YOU INCLUDE IN HER NEWSLETTER, UH, GOING FORWARD, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM FOR THE PEOPLE THAT READ HER, UH, NEWSLETTER.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE BUS PASS PROGRAM FIRST.
WE CAN GIVE YOU THE, THE, DID YOU NEED THE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT? WE CAN SUPPLY WITH DETAILS, HOW IT WORKS FOR EMPLOYERS.
JUST A QUICK CHEAT SHEET FOR IT.
I PUT THE B SRA NEWSLETTER THIS LAST WEEK TOO.
I CAN, THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO PROMOTE FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED.
HOW GOOD THEY'RE CLEAN EVERY 20 MINUTES.
I JUST THINK WE, WE HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL SERVICE HERE AND BECAUSE THE, THE EFFECT OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO REDUCE PARKING, UH, AND MAKE MORE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO VISIT THE SHORE.
THIS IS TO GET EMPLOYEES, UH, OUT OF THOSE SPOTS.
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UH, SO IF WE CAN HELP SPREAD THAT WORD, COUNCILWOMAN DUGGAN'S NEWSLETTER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.AND, AND I MIGHT, UH, FOLLOW THAT IN THE TERMS OF LIKE PUTTING THE MARKETING HAT ON, WHICH WAS MENTIONED, UM, FRAMING IN A WAY.
UH, BSBA BUS PASS PROGRAM REACHES RECORD RIDERSHIP IN OCTOBER.
LIKE THIS A SUCCESS TO TRY PROMOTE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY, GETS EXCITED ABOUT IT, KIND BUILD THAT EXCITEMENT, NOT JUST, WE HAVE IT SAY IT IS A HUGE SUCCESS.
NOW YOU NEED TO GET ON BOARD WITH THE BUS, NO PUN, PUN INTENDED.
MAYBE LEE CAN HAVE THE OR THE POST.
DO WE HAVE MEDIA IN THE ROOM TODAY? IS MEDIA HERE? UM, POST OR
IS THERE A STORY? I MEAN, ON BOARD, GET ON BOARD.
RECORD, RECORD RIDERSHIP FOR THE PROGRAM.
I PREFER NOT TO BE IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
UH, I I'M GONNA TAKE COMMENTS, BUT I CAN'T HAVE EXCHANGES WHERE WE'RE KIND OF OUTTA PROTOCOL TO GO AHEAD.
HEATHER KERNS, DIRECTOR OF BELMONT ASSOCIATION.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE MARKETING, THAT THE TRANSIT LONG BEACH TRANSIT PROVIDED WHEN I FIRST STARTED LAST YEAR IS FULL OF, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
AND SO THEY, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDING ME NEW MARKETING MATERIALS AND THEY HAVE IT.
OKAY, WE CAN
UH, SOMETHING ELSE, THE COUNCIL OFFICE COULD LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR THE SEES THERE'S A CAP CARD THEY CAN GET, AND THEN YOU GET CAP PRICE ON BUSES, YOU CAN USE THEM ON METRO.
AND REALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO THEY REALLY THINK THAT WAY.
AND WE'VE GOT TWO BUSES GOING.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE LB POST WOULD TAKE AN ADVERTISEMENT.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THEY DO.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A SUGGESTION.
UM, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM THREE? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.
UM, MOVING TO REGULAR CALENDAR NOW.
ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A PROPOSAL, UH, FROM CONSERVATION COURT TO PROVIDE MEDIUM LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE SERVICES, UH, AT A COST NOT TO RECEIVE $50,000.
UH, AS A REMINDER TO COMMISSIONERS, THIS WAS OUR REQUEST, UH, TO HAVE ONGOING BIMONTHLY, UH, OR BIWEEKLY DEPENDING ON HOW YOU USE THE, THE DEFINITION.
UH, ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF MEETINGS, UH, MEAT ABATEMENT, UH, REPLACED PLANTS, UH, AS NEEDED IRRIGATION, UM, TRAMPLES, UM, FERTILIZING JUST TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE ADDITIONAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'VE SPENT TO UPDATE THE MEDIA, THAT THE LANDSCAPE, UH, SURVIVES NOW THAT WE HAVE THE GARDENER SERVICE, UH, UH, AS IT WERE COME A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH TO DO THIS.
UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THAT ASK, UH, OF $50,000, UH, TO, UH, OFFSET THE COST OF THAT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
DID, DID WE TALK ABOUT IT NOW OR DO WE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WELL, BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION.
'CAUSE I DON'T, I JUST, UH, WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M MOTIONING FOR A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
IT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE SPEND WITH CONSERVATION COURT, BECAUSE I SEE, LIKE, IT IS THREE, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I'M LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL AND IT'S $3,374 A MONTH.
IT'S LIKE AFTER THE BUS TRANSIT.
BUT THE, I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE IS THAT, UH, CAN WE CANCEL IT AT ANY TIME? BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED TO GET ATTENTION INTO THE MEETINGS.
BUT I'VE BEEN, UH, NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE PERFORMANCE AND WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO, TO REALLY STICK WITH CONSERVATION CORPS FOR, I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR SIX
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YEARS NOW, FIVE YEARS.WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO DO AN HONEST JOB OF STAYING WITH THEM AND KEEPING THEM, AND GIVING THEM FEEDBACK AND, AND GIVING THEM A CHANCE.
THEY DON'T SHOW THE MEETINGS WHEN WE ASK 'EM TO COME IN.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'VE JUST BEEN SUPER DISAPPOINTED WITH THEIR PERFORMANCE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO I THINK MORE, UM, CAN, I CAN SAY SOMETHING.
WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND THE, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO A MOTION FIRST AND THEN WE CAN TALK AND THEN WE CAN SAY IF WE WANT TO VOTE FOR IT OR NOT.
WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, THE AGENDA ITEM.
KAREN BLAIR LIVES TO, UH, RECOMMEND TO APPROVE A DESIGN SERVICE BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW, CONSERVATION COURSE PROVIDE UNION LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE SERVICE AT A COST TO EXCEED 50,000.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE, UM, OKAY.
WE, WE ARE HAVING THESE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, BRINGING IN, UH, REPLACEMENT VENDOR FOR THE SERVICE.
SO WE KNOW THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UH, IN THE, THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
UH, THIS IS TO GET US TO THAT POINT, UH, SO THAT THE MAINTENANCE CAN BEGIN AND WE DON'T LOSE THE PLANT MATERIAL WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN.
UH, IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS APPROPRIATION ON A MONTHLY BASIS, NO ONE'S GONNA DO THIS MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
AND I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK ON, SO YEAH, CORRECT.
UH, AARON, THE TOTAL COST FOR THESE SERVICES FOR YEARS, $42,888.
BUT I DID DO A BUFFER OF AROUND $7,000 FOR MATERIALS, PLANTS, AND ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL SINCE THIS PROPOSAL IS ONLY FOR LABOR.
SO, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT, UH, I DECIDED TO PUT A, A $7,000 FOR THE FULL YEAR.
WE CAN REMOVE, YOU KNOW, AT IT IS A MONTH TO MONTH KIND OF BASIS.
UH, WE ARE JUST, I APPROVING IT FOR THE FULL YEAR.
SO THAT WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE WE DO GO THROUGH THE RFP PER PURPOSE AND, UM, WHEN WE DO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE RFP, UH, I'LL BRINGING ON SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS STUFF, WE WILL BE ABLE TO CANCEL.
UM, IS THERE ANOTHER CITY VENDOR OR SOMEBODY THAT THE CITY HAS OUT THERE DOING MEDIA LANDSCAPES RIGHT NOW? I THINK FOR, I GOTTA CONFIRM THIS, BUT I THINK FOR AT LEAST THE MEDIAN LANDSCAPES, MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE COVERED BY OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO KIND OF DOING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY.
BUT I THINK THAT, BUT FOR THIS ONE, UH, FOR CONSERVATION COURTS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MANAGE ALL OF CONS, UH, BELMONT SHORE.
NO, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE CONSERVATION CORPS ISN'T UP TO PAR.
AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE MAKE DECISIONS TO GO AFTER, UH, BIDS FROM OTHER VENDORS.
WE KNOW THAT THE TWO OTHER VENDORS THAT ARE LIKELY TO ENTER THE BID PROCESS DO PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE SPECTRUM.
THEY HAVE A LANDSCAPING DIVISION.
AND THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THE MAINTENANCE, UH, DOWNTOWN THAT THE CITY HAD RECOMMENDED PREVIOUSLY ALSO HAS A LANDSCAPING DIVISION, UH, THAT HANDLES THIS TYPE OF AUTOMATED MAINTENANCE.
SO WHEN WE GET INTO THAT PROCESS FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE KNOW THAT THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDE THE BIDS HAVE THAT SERVICE, UH, CAPACITY AS WELL.
YOU THANK, WELL, I'M NOT THRILLED WITH THIS EITHER, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO GET THIS NEW COMPANY, WE, WE ARE KIND OF IN A BIND, I THINK, BUT THERE'S A, I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES IT, WHETHER WE SIT DOWN WITH THESE PEOPLE, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING DONE.
COULD WE HAVE, UH, CONSERVATION COURT COME TO THE FIRST MEETING OF YEAH.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT THE FOCUS OF THE VISIT YEAH.
UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY WE'RE GONNA SPEND, UM, IS, IS IS APPROPRIATELY SPENT.
JUST, UM, TO CLARIFY AND I AGREE WITH JED AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA DO NOTHING 'CAUSE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT IT, I I'M GLAD THAT IT CAN BE CANCELED AT ANY TIME, MONTH TO MONTH, THE TWO DAYS PER MONTH.
SO, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, IS THAT LIKE THEY DO THE WHOLE MEDIAN ONE DAY AND THEN TWO WEEKS LATER THEY DO THE WHOLE MEETING AGAIN? YEAH.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING OUT TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN, UH, UH, SO TWO TIMES PER MONTH.
SO YOU HAVE TWO TIMES PER MONTH.
SO LIKE, I JUST WANTED, LIKE, IF THEY, LIKE, THEY DON'T FORGET TO THE END OF THE STREET.
I MEAN, I JUST WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO LIKE HONOR THAT LIKE, HEY, IF THEY'RE LIKE ONE CREW MAP, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE SO OFTEN, LIKE I JUST DON'T WANT 'EM TO COME LIKE TWO DAYS IN A ROW TO DO THE WHOLE STREET.
AND THAT WAY IT'S ONLY GETTING DONE ONCE A MONTH.
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WE COULD JUST CLARIFY.YEAH, I'LL CLARIFY THAT WITH THEM.
BUT FOR MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'LL BE COMING IN AT TWO TIMES PER MONTH TO DO THE WHOLE STREET, AND THEN THEY CAN GIVE US THEIR SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN, LIKE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES THING.
LIKE I WOULD LOVE TO, WE MAYBE ONE OF US VOLUNTEERS TO GO TAKE A DRIVE DOWN AND LOOK AT THE MEDIAN SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL ON SECOND STREET EVERY, EVERY DAY PRETTY MUCH.
BUT IF WE COULD FIND OUT WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS, I'D LOVE TO, UH, DO SOME QUALITY CONTROL.
MAKE SURE THAT WE FINISH YOUR THOUGHTS.
I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS TWICE A MONTH, LIKE EVERY TWO WEEKS, BASICALLY IT ISH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXACTLY FOUR, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? TWICE A MONTH BASICALLY.
AND THEN WE KNOW WHAT IT IS SO WE CAN DO QUALITY CONTROL.
I'M JUST, IT'S JUST ME SAYING THAT'S, 'CAUSE I HAVE A GARDENER THAT HAS TO COME ONCE A WEEK TO, TO CLEANUP.
SO HAVING THIS JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO DO THE ENTIRE MEETING.
WELL, I MEAN, THIS DELIVERED CONSERVATION CAR WHEN THEY COME.
BECAUSE I, I JUST DON'T THINK THEY, THEY CAN GET, LET ME PUT THIS OUT THERE, THAT THIS WAS THE RESULT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
IF WE WANT TO INCREASE THE ASK, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, THE, THE EFFORT IS DONE ADEQUATELY, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AS A COMMISSION.
UH, I DON'T THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THAT WE SHOULD ACCEPT THAT WE CAN GET, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK DONE FOR $20,000 OR $50,000 WORTH OF WORK DONE FOR, FOR THE LAST, UH, I KNOW THAT THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE, LABOR IS EXPENSIVE.
UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO TWO THINGS THAT IN THE SHORT TERM, MAKE SURE THAT THIS MATERIAL DOESN'T PERISH.
AND THEN IN THE LONG TERM, SELECT A VENDOR THAT ADEQUATELY DOES THE WORK.
AND I'M GONNA JUST SAY, UH, WE HAVE THE REVENUE TO DO THIS AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE EXPECT, UH, A RESULT FROM.
SO IF, IF THE MEETING IN JANUARY, UH, THAT'S, THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT ADEQUATELY, UH, FOR $42,000, THEN WE NEED TO INCREASE THE SPEND.
AND THEN I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I THINK EVERYBODY HERE WOULD AGREE THAT, YES.
UH, GOING FURTHER WITH AARON'S POINT, I THINK THAT THE ALL PROBLEM THAT HAS ALWAYS NEVER EXISTED SINCE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION WITH CONSERVATION CORPS IS THERE'S NO EVALUATION.
THERE'S NO SUPERVISOR THAT COMES AFTERWARDS.
AND THERE HAS SUPPOSED TO BE, IN THE PAST, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO ALWAYS HAVE A SUPERVISOR THAT PICKED HIM UP AND WALKED AND, YOU KNOW, HAD A CHECKLIST.
REMEMBER SHE WROTE THAT BIG CHECKLIST.
SO LET'S ASK FOR CREDABILITY AS WELL.
AND THEN THIS IS THE, THE REASON, AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SECRET HERE.
THIS IS WHY WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION FURTHER TO REPLACE THE BED, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING THE JOB ADEQUATELY.
SO, AND SO THAT, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THAT LAST TOPIC TO PHIL ON MY REAR.
SO IF WE COULD KNOW THE DATES, THEIR SCHEDULE, UH, WE CAN ASK THEM FOR A, UH, REPORT AFTER THEY'VE DONE IT, AND THEN KNOWING THEIR DATES.
I'M GOING TO GO, I'LL JUST VOLUNTEER TO GO TAKE A DRIVE THE DAY AFTER OR LATER IN THE DAY WHEN THEY COME AND I'LL CHECK.
AND THEN I MAKE SURE THAT THE REPORT MATCHES.
I'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME RIGHT HERE.
I'LL GO FOR THE FIRST COUPLE TIMES BECAUSE I, I, I REALLY THINK THE MEETINGS NEED A LOT OF ATTENTION AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS ON HERE.
SO I'LL VOLUNTEER TO GO TAKE A, TAKE A CRUISE, TAKE A BREAK FROM WORK AND GO CRUISE DOWN AND JUST CHECK IT.
AND THEN I CAN CHECK THEIR REPORT AND I'LL, I'LL VOLUNTEER.
DO THE LITTLE BIT OF QUALITY CONTROL FROM OUR END TO, TO SEE IT THROUGH.
SO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS PLEASE? OKAY.
UH, WE NEED A, UH, SEE, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOLLOW COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT OUR THOUGHT AZTECA IS OUT THERE TODAY DOING MAINTENANCE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ALL IN THIS 'CAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THE MAINTENANCE TODAY.
IS THAT WARRANTIES? YEAH, SO THEY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK FROM THE LAST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH, WITH GEORGE, I THINK THEY'RE CONTRACTED BY THE CITY.
UH, SO THEY DO SERVICES, MEDIA SERVICES FOR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT ON EARLY ON, THAT THEY DO MAINTENANCE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY DO REGULAR MAINTENANCE AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, ARE THEY DOING IRRIGATION MAINTENANCE OR ARE THEY DOING, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK THERE'S, THEY'RE WAITING, THEY'RE DOING, YEAH.
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OKAY.ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, TERESA, FROM THEM? I'M ONSHORE.
I JUST AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING A RESIDENT WALKING SECOND STREET, YOU KNOW, I REACHED OUT.
WE CERTAINLY CAN, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MEETINGS IMPROVED.
SO YEAH, IT IS BEEN A FOCUS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, AND WE JUST, WE, WE TRY TO MOLY, UH, TO PUSH THIS TRUCK UPHILL WITH A ROPE.
UH, AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO, UH, TO SUPPORT, I WOULD JOIN YOU ON THE QUALITY CONTROL.
I TAKE PHOTOS AND, YOU KNOW, GOOD.
THEN THE LAST LEARNING OF THIS AZTECA, I WOULD JUST, UH, OUT THERE DOING STUFF, MAYBE WE JUST COORDINATE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LIKE ON OFFSETTING LEADS, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T GET, LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO PAY $3,000 FOR THEM TO COME THE DAY AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE JUST CAME AND THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH TO DO.
SO LET'S JUST FIND OUT WHAT THAT SCHEDULE IS AND THEN WE CAN TELL CONSERVATION CORPS WHEN WE WANT THEM TO COME.
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, DO WE WANT THEM TO COME ON LIKE A THURSDAY? SO THIS PIECE CAN BE FOR A WEEKEND COMING UP.
YOU KNOW, WE, MAYBE WE COULD TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT THE DAYS TO BE AFTER WE FIND OUT TAKE'S SCHEDULE.
I'LL, I'LL TALK TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU AND I'LL FIND OUT THEIR SCHEDULE OR SEE OBVIOUSLY IF IT RUNS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE NOT COMING AT THE SAME DAY OR IN THE SAME WEEK.
UH, AND THEN I CAN LIKE CONSERVATION COURT WHEN THEY SHOULD BE COMING IN.
UH, I'VE GOT ONE ADDITION TO THIS.
AND I'M EITHER GONNA BE THE MOST POPULAR GUY IN THE ROOM, OR YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BEAT ME.
SENSELESS, UM, ON THE HEELS OF THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, UM, FORTHCOMING, HEATHER, UM, IS THIS THE YEAR THAT WE, UM, TRY HARDER TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PUTTING CHAIRS AND STANDING IN THE MEDIAN AND DESTROYING THE LANDSCAPING THAN WE HAVE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY TO PUT IN.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE LAST YEAR THERE WAS A, AN ORANGE KIND OF BLOCKADE IN THE MEDIAN, BUT, UM, WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE, UH, PUTTING CHAIRS, UH, ON THE LANDSCAPE MATERIAL, NOT JUST THE HARD PATH THAT'S THERE.
SO HOW AGGRESSIVE, UH, DO WE WANT TO GET TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PUTTING CHAIRS AND STANDING IN THE PLANT MATERIAL? I'M JUST PUTTING THAT UP.
THAT'S, I, I DUNNO WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT PEOPLE GONNA BE AGGRESSIVE AND DOING ANYTHING.
I KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR THE, THE LANDSCAPE GETS TRAMPLED AND WE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
WELL, I JUST WATCHING FOLKS, WE HAVE THE USHERS IF THEY'RE CALLED, I'M NOT SURE WHO, WHAT THEIR TITLE IS, BUT YOU KNOW, THESE GENTLEMEN THAT ARE GOING AND TELLING PEOPLE YOU CAN'T BE THAT FAR.
'CAUSE I, I MEAN, I'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU GUYS YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
NO, I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THE USHERS, 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE KEEPING PEOPLE AND IT IS A VERY CHALLENGING JOB.
'CAUSE I WAS, I OBSERVED THEM, YOU KNOW, BEING TREATED PRETTY POORLY BY PEOPLE THAT I FELT BAD FOR THE, FOR THE GUYS, BUT MAYBE THE USHERS, IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER VOLUNTEERS THAT COULD HELP.
I KNOW, UH, MAYBE, UH, SINCE WE'RE REEVALUATING DECORATIONS IN FEBRUARY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND THE DECORATION CANDY CANES AND THEN LIKE WITH LIGHTS, I'M, I'M, I I AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN FEBRUARY.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY SURE, SURE.
AND THEN MAYBE THIS YEAR WE'LL JUST DISCUSS THE USHERS AS HEATHER'S GONNA DO.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE CAN LOOK AT DECORATIONS THAT PROVIDE A BARRICADE AREA.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
UH, THIS IS UNUSUAL FOR THIS GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT IS MORE TO NOT OPEN NOBODY MIND.
UM, HEATHER IS, IS THE ORANGE FENCING, UH, DOES PD PUT THAT UP OR DOES, WHO PUTS THAT UP? THE CITY PUTS IT OUT.
THEY COME OUT AND PUT IT OUT AND, UM, I'M SURE SPECIAL EVENTS, MY FEEDBACK AND SPECIAL EVENTS FEEDBACK WOULD BE THAT YOU CANNOT, UNLESS PD SAYS NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO SIT ON THE MEDIAN, WE WOULD HAVE A CROWD CONTROL PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE ON THE SIDEWALKS FOR AS MANY PEOPLE THAT COME IN IF THE MEDIANS ARE NOT AVAILABLE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE PEOPLE GO.
HOW DO WE LIMIT PEOPLE TO THE HARDSCAPE AND NOT GET INTO THE PLANETARY? WELL, THEY WERE, THEY WERE PRETTY WELL WRAPPED LAST YEAR, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY EFFECTIVE.
THE ONLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT LIKE, AND HONESTLY, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING TO DESTROY.
I'M JUST TELLING THERE'S JUST WEEDS AND NOTHING AND NOTHING LOOKS GOOD RIGHT NOW.
SO WHY DON'T WE EVALUATE THIS YEAR, TAKE SOME PHOTOS, HAVE A PARADE, AND, AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS IT LONG TERM.
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OKAY.BUT THE WRAPPING WAS, THEY CAME OUT AND DID THAT.
I I, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE GONNA DO IT.
AND THEY DID IT REALLY EFFECTIVELY.
AND SO THEY MOSTLY USE THE HARDSCAPE.
THEY STILL SIT IN THE STREET LITTLE BIT.
SO THE WRAP IS GOING TO OCCUR.
BUT THOSE, UM, THOSE FLOATING, YOU KNOW, UH, TREES.
TREES THAT BIG, THE BAY TREES.
THE, NOW OUR, OUR MEDIAS ARE LOOKING FREE.
THOSE ARE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE MARINE BUREAU, BUT THEY'RE NOT TAKEN CARE OF.
THE MARINE BUREAU PLACES THEM, UM, THE, THE FIRST ASK FOR THOSE WAS MY FIRST YEAR ON THE COMMISSION.
CAN WE HAVE THE TREES FROM THE POR ON THE SHORE FOR CONTINUITY? UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE MARINE BUREAU.
UM, WE PAY TO HAVE 'EM PAINTED TO, TO COME AND, AND WE CAN THROW SOME MONEY OUT FOR THE, FOR THE SEGREGATED TREES THAT ARE IN SHORE.
SO, UH, I THINK WE NEED AN ASK FOR, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE FRESH, UH, MARINE BUREAU TO SHOW UP IN JANUARY, AND WE CAN, UH, THROW A LITTLE DARTS EPTEMBER FOR A WHILE.
I CAN DO A MOTION IF WE'VE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
I CAN SECOND YEAH, WE'RE ALMOST, ALMOST THERE.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOUR COMMENTS? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.
I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL FROM CONSERVATION COURTS.
SUBJECT, JUST CONFIRMING THE SCHEDULE IS IST OVERLAPPING WITH AZTECAS AND THAT, UM, WE CAN BE PROVIDED, UM, THE DATES OF WHEN THOSE WILL COME AND A REPORT OF AFTER THEY'VE PERFORMED THEIR DUTIES.
COULDN'T HAVE DONE BETTER MYSELF.
UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A DESIGN SERVICES BUDGET.
UH, FOR THE BELMONT SHORE OF WAY FINDING SIGNAGE PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000.
SO THE UPDATE HERE IS THAT, UH, ON THE FIRST INSPECTION WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THE CITY, UH, INTRODUCE US TO A DESIGN FIRM, UH, THAT THE CITY, UH, USES FOR ALL, UH, ASSIGNED PROJECTS AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT
UM, WE ASKED FOR A REVIEW AND, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAY LESS.
AND THAT COMPANY CAME BACK, UH, WITH A DISCOUNT OF $20,000.
UH, SO THIS ITEM, UH, IS, UH, NOT TO EXCEED ASK OF THAT AMOUNT, WHICH IS A $60,000 FROM OBLIGATORY REVIEW, DESIGN REVIEW, UH, THAT WE CANNOT AVOID IN THIS PROJECT.
SO WITH THAT, UM, MEASURE, AND I WAS THINKING I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK ON IT.
UM, THAT WAY I COULD JUST PROVIDE A WHOLE BREAKDOWN OF THE $60,000.
UH, SO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUDGET WILL BE COVERED, WHICH BE TO COVER, UH, COST REGARDING, UH, SHERBERT PERKINS, UH, SOMAS AND ASSOCIATED CITY EXPENSES.
SO THE FIRST PROPOSAL THAT'S SOLICIT ON HERE, YOU'LL FIND FROM SHERBERT PERKINS, WHO'S ALREADY DONE A SIDEWALK WITH, UH, ON SECOND STREET WITH MATT RYAN, CITY STAFF, MYSELF, INCLUDING MYSELF, AND SOMOS, WHICH WAS DJ WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING.
UH, SHERVER PERKINS WILL PROVIDE SIGNAGE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE BALANCE SHORE SIGNS AND THEIR PROPOSAL.
YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, TO PROVIDE THE VISIBILITY OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, A DESIGN PACKAGE, ENGINEERING SERVICES, AND CONSTRUCTION COORDINATION.
AND THAT TOTAL COSTS FOR THOSE SERVICES ARE 40, $40,000.
UM, TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON SHERVER PERKINS, THE COMPANY HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND HAS ALREADY COMPLETED SIX, UH, PROJECTS WITH THE CITY, WITH FOUR MORE UNDERWAY, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THEY ALSO HAVE DEVELOPED THE STYLE GUIDES FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND UNDERSTANDS THE NEED STEPS IN CITY POLICIES THAT COMPLETE SIGNED PROJECTS.
UH, THE SECOND PROPOSAL THAT YOU'LL FIND IS FROM SOMAS, WHO WILL PROVIDE PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UH, SERVICES FOR THE BELMONT SHORE SERVICE PROJECT.
UH, DURING THE DESIGN PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, SOMAS WILL ASSIST WITH THE PLAN REVIEW, EVALUATE THE PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTABILITY CONCERNS, AND REVIEW ALL COST ESTIMATES, UH, FOR CONSISTENCY WITH PRIOR COSTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE SIGNAGE TO OTHER SIGNAGES WITHIN THE CITY.
UH, SOMOS HAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY ASSISTED IN MULTIPLE SIGN PROJECTS WITH THE CITY, LIKE THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE OFF THE SEVEN 10 FREEWAY ON SHORELINE
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DRIVE, UM, AND MULTIPLE VEHICULAR WAVE FINDING SIGNAGES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.UH, THEY ALSO NOT ONLY BRING EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO BRINGS A LOT OF VALUE TO THE PROJECT BY HAVING WORKED WITH MULTIPLE PARTIES AND SIGNED PROJECTS AND UNDERSTANDS THE STEPS AND NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED TO PUSH THE PROJECT, UH, FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE LIFELINE OF THE PROJECT.
SO THOSE, THEIR COST IS, UH, FOR THOSE SERVICES IS 9,120 FOR THE DESIGN PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN, UH, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT LISTED ON HERE, THERE'S OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE $60,000 ARE CITY EXPENSES.
SO THOSE CITY'S EXPENSES ARE FOR OTHER CITY STAFF FOR, UH, PROJECT CAPITAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR WHO WILL ASSIST WITH THE PROJECT TASK AND, AND THEN ALSO OTHER PERMIT FEES.
UH, SO I ANTICIPATE WE ANTICIPATED THAT THE, FOR PUBLIC WORK STAFF, THAT'S GONNA COST ABOUT $9,000.
AND THEN OUR PERMITS AND FEES, WE THINK THAT'S GONNA COST ABOUT, UH, 1,200.
SO IN TOTAL, THOSE TOTAL COMES OUT TO 59,320, WHICH LEAVES ABOUT $680 FOR ANY OTHER CONTINGENCIES, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A PERMIT THAT MAYBE WE, WE DID, I JUST DID NOT ANTICIPATE FOR, UM, IF A BUDGET IS APPROVED, I CAN PROVIDE A NOTICE TO SHERPA PERKINS AND SOMOS TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THE GOAL WILL BE TO PRESENT OUTCOMES OF THE DESIGN PHASE, UH, AND NEXT, NEXT STEPS REGARDING CONSTRUCTION AND PROVIDE A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET DURING THE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO MR. HOFFMAN FOR COMMENT.
I DO A MOTION, UH, A MOTION, I A MOTION TO, UH, RECEIVE THE REPORT.
SO WE HAVE MOTION, THE MOTION, THE MOTION TO, UH, PROCEED THE, UH, BID MOTION APPROVE QUESTION.
SO WE GIVE THE MOTION AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, SO THE MOTION IS ENTERED BY MR. HOFFMAN, AND THEN I'M REFER MR. HOFFMAN FOR COMMENT ON THIS.
SO I THINK, UH, THE REALITY IS THAT, UM, THIS IS A QUALIFIED COMPANY.
THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY.
UM, I'M EMPLOYED WITH SOMOS, UM, NOT SO MUCH, UH, LUMBER PERKINS, BUT THIS IS COSTLY.
BUT THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT ARE GONNA PUSH IT THROUGH THE CITY AND, AND GET THE PROJECT MOVING $20,000 LESS COSTLY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SPEND A YEAR LOOKING TO SAY $10,000 AT LEAST THAT YOU KNOW, SO, AND THIS IS OBLIGATORY.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ENGINEERING SERVICES.
IS THAT WHO'S HANDLING STRUCTURAL AND ELECTRICAL? SO IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE THE, OR IS THAT COME LATER? IT IS GOING TO COME LATER DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
UH, THE ENGINEERING IS, IS PRETTY MUCH TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING, JUST TO SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE.
UM, AND SO IS THIS MORE OF A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND PROPOSAL? YEAH, SO IT'D BE A, IT IS PRETTY MUCH INCLUDING THE, THE, IF IT'S FEASIBLE, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST STEP THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO.
IT'S JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FEASIBLE.
YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S THE, WITH THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THE LOCATIONS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE ENGINEERING SERVICES WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, UM, JUST TO, IF THEY FIT, IT IS FEASIBLE JUST TO SEE WHAT THE STEPS ARE, ARE INCLUDED.
TYPICALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH SOMAS, UM, WHEN WE WERE FIRST GOING THROUGH THE SCOPE OF WORK WITH THEM, I WAS TOLD BY THE CAPITAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR THAT USUALLY THEY USUALLY DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENGINEERING SERVICES, BUT WHEN THEY DON'T INCLUDE IT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE TO FIGURE OUT THAT WHOLE ENGINEERING SERVICES.
SO ACTUALLY SOMAS, WHO WAS DJ WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING, RIGHT, HE ACTUALLY SUGGESTED THAT WE INCLUDED IT ALREADY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COMES UP, HE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THE ENGINEERING SERVICES, AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA DETERMINE LIKE THE ISSUES THAT WILL COME, UH, COME SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
UH, SO THEY'LL BE DOING THAT AND THEN DETERMINING, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S ANY ELECTRICAL ISSUES, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT AS WELL.
UH, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, OF COURSE, THAT'S, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, UM, ALL THE OTHER STEPS THAT COME WITH IT.
UM, BUT THAT WILL BE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF IT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A VERY PARTIAL APPROVAL STEP ONE TO GETTING THIS WHOLE THING APPROVED, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE JUST FROM ENGINEERING AND, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT TO ME, THIS IS RELATIVELY REASONABLE FOR A CITY PROJECT.
OH, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT THIS TO SOUND LIKE A SNARKY COMMENT, BUT IT'S GONNA SOUND LIKE A SNARKY COMMENT.
UH, THE INITIAL, UH, COST OF THIS WAS $80,000 AND WE ASKED, WE JUST ASKED FOR IT TO BE REDUCED AND WE SAVED $20,000.
UM, AND I'M GONNA CHALK THAT UP TO THE FACT THAT THIS COMMISSION IS COMPRISED OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND IF WE JUST WIDELY TOOK WHATEVER CAME OUR WAY, WE'D BE BROKE.
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YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THERE'S THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE COSTS, THE MANNER THIS THING AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT I APPRECIATE, UM, AND WE JUST MOVE FORWARD, UH, STEP BY STEP AND TRY TO GET THIS THING S ON THE GROUND IN THIS COMING YEAR.YES, MR. ANI? YEAH, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A, A, A PRIVATE PROJECT ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USED TO DESIGNING SHOPPING CENTERS.
WHAT I DO, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS TO RYAN'S POINT IS WE COULD SPEND SIX MONTHS HUNTING AROUND, BUT, AND, AND MAYBE SAVE 2000.
BUT, UH, INFLATIONARY PRESSURES EVERY YEAR, EVERY, THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THINGS JUST CONTINUE TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO THAT'S, YOU KIND OF JUST GOTTA GO.
THE ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IS THAT, UH, I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE.
UH, I, I, I, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THIS WILL GET US TO A SET OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY READY TO BILL, WHICH WE, WE COULD THEN PRICE OUT AND THEY WOULD EVEN HAVE AN ENGINEER'S BUDGET.
BUT DOES THIS INCLUDE A, AND RYAN, MAYBE YOU CAN COME INTO THAT, A SOILS REPORT.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU NEED TO DO YOUR STRUCTURAL CALCULATIONS AND YOUR FOUNDATION, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT GOES TO ANOTHER GROUP OF ENGINEERS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CORE DEPTH IS BASED ON THE SOILS REPORT.
BASED ON THIS ONE, HAVE A SOILS REPORT.
AND I JUST WOULDN'T, THE ONE THING I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING? WE DON'T DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T FIND OUT.
I THINK WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET A PRELIMINARY DESIGN, THEN YOU GO THROUGH AND GET THE SOILS REPORT, AND YOU GO, OH, THE DIRT'S REALLY BAD.
WE'VE GOTTA GO DEEPER AND WIDER.
AND THEN THIS WOULD, UH, AND I GUESS THE SEQUENCING OF THINGS WOULD BE A, UH, A UTILITY SURVEY.
I, I, IT KIND OF SEEMS IN HERE THEY SHOW 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, IF WE JUST NEED ELECTRICITY IS WHAT WE NEED TO IT, WE NEED DIG ALERT, WE NEED PERMISSION TO CONNECT TO THE POWER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING WITH SOMOS ABOUT IS THAT THE EXISTING SIGNAGE HAD I THINK TWO OR THREE BR THIRTIES INCANDESCENT AND SHOW THAT LESSER POWER.
WE'RE USING LESS POWER FOR GOING TO BACK ON LED OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, WE'RE REDUCING THE OVERALL ENERGY USAGE.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO COMPENSATE THE CITY OR WHOEVER THAT, THERE'S SOME MECHANISM FOR THAT, WHICH WOULD BE A SIMPLE CALCULATION BASED ON OKAY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, DO WE OPERATE THE SOFT LIGHT SENSORS OR TIME OF DAY, WHATEVER BY SENSORS ANYWAY.
UH, THAT, THAT JUST, I JUST, SO JUST NOTING FOR OUR OWN KNOWLEDGE, LIKE WHERE THERE WILL BE OTHER DESIGN RELATED COSTS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT BRIAN'S SAYING TOO, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE REPORTS.
THIS IS JUST INITIAL STEP TO, AND WE'VE GOTTA GET SOME MOMENTUM.
HE'S GOTTA DESIGN IT BEFORE YOU CAN SPEC YOUR YEAH.
AWESOME GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, UH, SPECIFIC EXPERTISE, UH, THAT WE SO APPRECIATE.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS ON THIS? I FEEL BETTER.
YEAH, I STILL FEEL KIND OF HELD A LITTLE BIT, BUT HEY, I FEEL BETTER.
WELL YOU FEEL LESS, UH, HOSTAGE IF IT WASN'T
UH, IT'S A SIGN FOR HUMAN SEX, BUT I DIGRESS.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S COMMENT? UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
I THINK TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WHAT THE SURVEY SHOWED WAS THAT PEOPLE LIKE THE EXISTING SIGN DESIGN, IF YOU TOOK THE MONEY YOU'RE SPENDING JUST ON THE SIGNING, YOU COULD RE, YOU COULD BUILD NEW SIDES, JUST LIKE WE HAVE PUT 'EM IN WHERE THEY ARE.
AND THERE'S A REAL PLUS TO THAT.
WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO THE SHORE FROM THE EAST, YOUR EYE LEVEL IS WHERE THE SIGNS ARE THERE.
IF YOU COME FROM LIVINGSTON, IT'S THE SAME.
SO YOU'RE PAYING ALL THIS MONEY TO PUT THE EXISTING SIGN UP ON A POLE THAT THEN COMPETES WITH THE, UH, BILLBOARDS.
SO MY THOUGHT WOULD BE GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE, SEND THIS OUT TO A
UH, HEATHER, THE PSBA ENFORCES THE COMMISSION TO GET US ASSIGNED, GET US ASSIGNED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
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UH, ITEM SIX, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL HOURS, UH, FOR CSI PATROL SERVICE TO PROVIDE SECURITY SERVICES, UH, IN THE BEAUMONT SHORT AREA.UH, THIS, UM, WAS AN ASKED, UH, PRECIPITATED BY RECENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF.
UH, THIS IS, UH, ITEMS THROWN THROUGH WINDOWS, UH, SMASHING GRABS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
UM, MOST RECENTLY WE HAD A CHAIR GO THROUGH, UH, THE CHASE BANK WINDOW, UH, ON AN EARLY MONDAY MORNING.
UM, UH, WE HAD, UH, OUT OF THE DISTRICT, BUT IN NAPLES, UH, MOST RECENTLY, UH, VALENTINA'S PIZZA, UH, WAS BROKEN INTO EARLY MORNING HOURS.
AND WE HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE SHORE AFFECTED BY THIS.
SO THE ASK, EXCUSE ME, UH, IS TO HAVE CSI, UH, INCREASE THEIR, UH, PATROL TIMES.
UH, AND THE SPECIFIC, UH, REQUEST IS 3:00 AM UH, TO 7:00 AM UH, WITH CONSTANT MOVEMENT ON A BICYCLE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SHORE, UH, THAT'LL ACHIEVE TWO THINGS, UM, OR MANY THINGS OF, OF THAT, UH, OPTICALLY A DETERRENT.
UM, THEY WOULD HEAR, UH, A WINDOW PERHAPS COULD IDENTIFY PERPETRATORS QUICKLY OR PD HERE QUICKLY.
UM, AND ALSO, UH, JUST ADDITIONAL SECURITY.
UH, WE NEED A MOTION I RECOMMEND TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL HOURS FROM CSI PATROL SERVICE AND I'LL OPEN UP FOR COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE.
AND WE HAVE SEEN THEM OUT FRONT THAT A LOT.
SO, AND THEY'RE OFF THE BIKES WALKING ON.
WELL, PART, PART OF OUR, OUR CONTINUED, UH, EFFORT AND HOPEFULLY SUCCESS WITH THIS PROGRAM IS THAT WE INTERFACE WITH CSI REGULARLY, UH, WE INTERFACE WITH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REGULARLY.
UH, NOW WE HAVE DIALOGUES OCCURRING BETWEEN CSI AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE HAVE THE COMMANDER ON, ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, THAT IS PAYING, UH, MORE ATTENTION TO THE ANALYTICS PROVIDED BY CSI.
UH, SO THE, I WILL TELL YOU THROUGH OBSERVATION AND, UH, ANECDOTALLY THAT THE CSI IS UN, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNLIKE ANY OTHER COMPANY.
WE JUST HAVE TO STAY ON 'EM AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE MONITOR TO THEIR PERFORMANCE, AUDIT THEIR PERFORMANCE, AND ASK FOR, UH, THEY'RE, UH, PROOF THAT THEY'RE MOVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE NEED TO SEE THEIR REPORTS, UH, WHICH WE DO, UH, HEAD AGAINST THOSE REPORTS, UH, ON A DAILY BASIS AS WELL.
UM, BUT LIKE ANYTHING, WE HAVE TO STAY ON IT.
SO, UM, CLEARLY I THINK THE, THE, UM, RULE OF THE DAY IS THAT WE HAVE TO THROW MORE RESOURCES AT THIS, UH, TO AUGMENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND, UM, HELP WITH THE SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS AND SHOPKEEPERS, UH, AND EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ION I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ONE THING OF, UH, WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING THE E CAM SECURE STUFF, WHICH IS THE PORTABLE, UH, CAMERA SYSTEMS THAT ARE TRAILERS.
UM, NOT THE PORTABLE, THE, THE, THE CITY CAN MOVE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE IN.
YOU'RE SEEING THAT MORE IN, UH, PRIVATE SPACES, SHOPPING CENTERS.
AND THOSE, THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE, UH, PORTABLE TOWERS THAT THEY INTO THE DISTRICTS ON OCCASION ASK THAT DETERRENT.
UM, BUT, UH, SINCE, UH, THE COMMANDER'S BEEN ON THE JOB, THE CAMERA SYSTEM THAT WAS PUT IN THE PUBLIC CAMERA SYSTEM, UH, SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO, THAT WENT DORMANT, UH, BECAUSE OF, UM, TECHNOLOGY, UH, HAS BEEN REINSTATED ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT.
NICK, AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, THEY WANT TO ADD A FEW MORE CAMERAS.
BUT THE SYSTEM IS OPERATIONAL.
UH, AND THEY HAVE REFERRED TO IT SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT IT'S BEEN OPERATIONAL.
UH, THE COMMANDER PANINO HAS BEEN ON THE JOB THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLY USEFUL TO, IN THEIR ENFORCEMENT.
SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S CUMMINS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
YOU GUYS, I'LL, I'LL TO THAT PLEASE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR CITY.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME, I THINK THERE'S SIGNAGE COMING UP FOR THE CAMERAS TOO THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE
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PORTABLE SIGNAGE IS MORE VISIBILITY OF HAVING IT THERE RATHER THAN HITTING CAMERAS.BUT THERE, THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE IT'LL BE VISIBLE TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SYSTEMS. SO, THANK YOU, SIR.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, CERTAINLY SUPPORT YOUR SECURITY.
UH, MS. COTTON, COULD HE JUST REVIEW CSI'S CURRENT HOURS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK? UH, WHAT ARE THEIR CURRENT HOURS? THEY ARE SEVEN.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM, UH, STAGGERED HOURS, UH, EIGHT TO 10:00 AM TO FOUR TO 6:00 PM UH, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO THIS ASK, UH, IS 3:00 AM TO 7:00 AM AGAIN, UM, WE'LL START AT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT, UM, IT COULD BE STAGGERED FOR EFFECTIVENESS, UH, AND BUDGET CONSTRAINTS IF NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE, UH, PROJECT, BUT THE OFFSET IS THAT IN, UH, PAST YEARS, WE WERE DEDICATING $120,000 ANNUALLY THROUGH THE BUS PASS PROGRAM.
CAME DIRECTLY OUT OUR BUDGET, UH, WE REMOVED THAT $120,000.
THAT'S NOW BOND FLOW, UM, AND, UH, OR GRANT FLOW RATHER.
SO THAT FREE UP, UH, AT LEAST THAT HUNDRED 20,000 WE CAN DEDICATE TO SECURITY, UH, AMONGST OTHER THINGS.
BUT OUR REVENUE SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? UH, ITEM SEVEN, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A PROPOSAL FROM, UH, WAXY SANITARY SUPPLY.
UH, YES TO PURCHASE, UH, ADDITIONAL BIG VALLEY UNITS, UM, AND MESSAGE PANELS ON SECOND STREET.
UH, IS THIS AN UP TO, UH, OR IS THIS THE ACTUAL, THIS, THE ACTUAL, OKAY.
UH, IS THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I, I THINK THE SECOND PAGE IS IN PRINTOUT.
UH, BUT I CAN PROVIDE, I CAN PROVIDE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
SO THE, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME ORDER THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UH, ONE THING TO NOTE THAT THE COST DID GO UP ABOUT $3,600 INFLATION.
THAT, THAT ACTUALLY BIG VALLEY DID ANNOUNCE THAT A PRICE INCREASE BACK IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
AND THAT INCREASE WAS TIED BACK TO RAW MATERIALS, UH, IN THE MARKETPLACE.
WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE? UH, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT PERCENTAGE INCREASE, BUT THEY DID, I DID DO THE MATH AND IT WAS 3,600.
UM, SO THE PREVIOUS, UH, SO THE NEW COST TOTAL QUOTE IS 37,305, UM, THE BIG VALLEY.
THE PRICE, THE NEW PRICE ONE IS FOR 2,308.
UH, FOR THE TOTAL FOR THOSE 12 IS 27,696.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO 24 MESSAGE PANELS THAT WE TYPICALLY, WE ALREADY ORDER ON ALL OF 'EM THAT DOES THE MARKETING FOR US TOO, UH, WHICH IS AT $175 PER UNIT, AND THAT EQUALS OUT TO 4,200.
AND THEN THE, THE FREIGHT IS, UH, A STANDARD COST OF 2,140, UH, WITH SUBT TAX WITH 3,269 WITH 34 CENTS.
SO A GRAND TOTAL OF 37,305 WITH 34 CENTS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE.
UH, JUST A LITTLE FILL IN, UH, FOR, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE FOLKS AND THE TENANTS.
UH, WE HAD A WALKABOUT, UM, COUNCIL.
OUR, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GATT AND, UH, HEATHER KERN, UH, DID A WALKABOUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEIR REPORT, UH, WAS PRETTY RESOUNDING, UM, THAT THE CONDITION OF MOST OF THESE UNITS IS JUST AWFUL.
UM, MOST OF 'EM ARE RICKETY, UH, IF NOT BROKEN.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOUL, THEY'RE DIRTY, THEY LOOK TERRIBLE.
UM, AND I MEAN, I SUPPORT AND, AND I'M FOR COMMISSION SUPPORT AS WELL.
UH, WE REPLACE, UH, AS MANY AS NECESSARY, UH, JUST FOR THE, THE SANITATION ASPECT OF IT, IF NOT THE OPTICS.
UM, AND JUST AS A, UH, INFORMATIONAL FOR EVERYONE, WE ARE NOT REPLACING, UH, THE UNIT FOR UNIT.
UH, THESE ARE NOT THE BELLS AND WHISTLES.
COMPACTING SOLAR, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH NORAD TRASH CANS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
THESE ARE VERY SIMPLE, UH, NO BELLS AND WHISTLES.
THEY'RE PEDAL OPERATED, SO THE DOOR OF THE TRASH CAN OPENS WITHOUT TOUCHING IT.
UM, THEY'RE THERE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF 'EM IS TIGHTER ACTUALLY THAN, UH, THE MORE COMPLICATED UNITS.
UH, THE PRICE PER UNIT IS A FRACTION OF WHAT THE, THE EXPENSIVE UNITS WAS.
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SO HOPEFULLY, I MEAN, WE, IT'S A FTA COMPLETE.WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE, UM, CRAZY THINGS.
UH, SO REPLACING WITH SIMPLE UNITS IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE, UH, REQUIRES ALMOST NO MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD.
UH, BATTERIES AND SOLAR, UH, ADAPTION AND ALL OTHER STUFF.
SO THIS IS REALLY THE WAY WE NEED TO GO.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF COMMISSIONER GATT AND, UH, UH, MISS CURRENTLY, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO CONCENTRATE AND, AND REPLACE AS MANY OF THESE AS WE CAN ON AN ONGOING BASIS, UH, BASIS.
AND IT'S PART OF THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE SHORE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
I JUST WANNA SAY, AND THANK MATT FOR MEETING AND THANKS HEATHER.
AND THE BILL LOOK LIKE HELL, THEY'RE, 99% OF THEM NEED TO BE REPLACED.
SO I TALKED TO MATT ABOUT IT, AND IT WAS AT HIS SUGGESTION THAT IF WE GO TO THIS CITY, IF WE TRY AND ORDER A WHOLE LOT OF 'EM, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY.
IF THE, THE MONEY IS RIGHT THERE, WHERE, WHICH IS WHAT IT WOULD BE.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND ORDER ENOUGH THAT WE CAN DO OURSELVES AND THEN SLOWLY GET THEM ALL DONE.
SO I HOPE THAT THAT MOVES FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, BEYOND, UNLESS YOU REALLY WALK AROUND AND LOOK AT ALL OF 'EM.
DID SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION? DID WE I HAVE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL.
AND ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU.
THE SPEED AT WHICH YOU GUYS GOT THIS DONE FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UH, WE ARE, AND I JUST SAY IN GENERAL, WE'RE CRANKING ON ALL THESE ITEMS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
JUST ANY, AND THE WHOLE STAFF GET THIS, THIS POINT.
AND NORMALLY I'D SAY, WELL, LISTEN TO GO, MY BUSINESS HEAD IS LIKE, LET'S NEGOTIATE A DEAL.
LIKE IF YOU BUY 12 TO GET ONE FREE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE, OR LIKE, GIVE US A, WE'RE A REPEAT CUSTOMER, BUT WE CAN DO THAT ON THE NEXT ROUND.
SO I THINK WE APPROVE THIS AND THEN WE IMMEDIATELY SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE AND LET'S TRY AND LOCK IN TODAY'S PRICE BEFORE THEY KEEP GOING UP AND UP AND UP IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I, I APPROVE THIS AND I SAID, LET'S START ON THE NEXT BATCH.
AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S SOME ROOM TO NEGOTIATE AND GET A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER DEAL.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS FEEL WITH THE, UH, THE OLD UNITS MOVING ON WITH THE OLD UNITS? IS THERE ANY KIND OF, THERE'S A MARKET FOR THAT.
IF I'M MISTAKEN, IT GOES TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU.
I THINK THEY'RE REALLY JUST IN PRETTY BAD, PRETTY BAD.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE ACTUALLY GOT RID OF 'EM.
I CAN DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? OKAY.
UH, ITEM EIGHT, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE CANCELLATION OF VOLUNT PARKING BUSINESS.
PRELIMINARY MEETING, DIFFERENT, UH, WE, WE DO THIS AS HISTORIC, UH, AND, AND EXPECTED IF WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN THE CALENDAR MONTH OF DECEMBER.
UH, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SECOND PLEASE.
UH, AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, UH, WE ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEM.
UH, WE TO MR. I JUST WANNA LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT I WALKED THE CORRIDOR WITH JENNIFER KUMA FROM DA COMPLIANCE CITY OF LONG BEACH, AND SHE TOOK PHOTOS AND IDENTIFIED, UM, WE IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE THE BRICK AND THE SIDEWALK ARE NOT LEVEL AS WELL AS
SO SHE'S HELPING TO PUSH THAT FORWARD AND HAS SENT ALL THE THREE WELL, UM, ONES THAT WE IDENTIFIED TO THE CITY ARBORIST.
SO JUST LETTING THE COMMISSION KNOW IF SOMETHING'S, HOPEFULLY IN THE WORKS TO GET SOME OF THESE REPAIRED BY PUBLIC COURT.
COULD WE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE, UH, THAT, UH, UH, EMPLOYEE COME TO THE JANUARY COMMISSION MEETING AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON ADA COMPLIANCE, UH, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CUTOUTS AND, UH, UM, EVERYTHING RELATIVE TO ADA A
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FOR THE SHORE? MM-HMM.ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEM, PLEASE.