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2023.UM, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? COMMISSIONER
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CASTILLO.COMMISSIONER CLEMSON, WOULD YOU
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? UH, YES.EVERYONE STAND, PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDERGONE INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL SOMETIMES.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE, UH, PEOPLE HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT IF THERE'S, UH, ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVING TESTIMONY, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? THIS IS THE PARTICIPANTS DO.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, DO DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU SHALL GIVE IN THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SHALL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
[1. 23-25744 Recommendation to receive and file Director’s Report. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE? IT'S NEW.UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, I'M SORRY, HAS MADE THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HANS, UM, DO THAT.
UH, SECOND IT MAY WE, UH, NOW HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.
I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER WARE AND I BELIEVE, UM, ALLISON IS READY WITH OUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT, VICE CHAIR.
UH, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS AS PART OF ITEM ONE HERE AS PART OF THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
UM, SO AS MOST PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY AWARE, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING A POTENTIAL CYBER SECURITY INCIDENT.
AND OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, OUR MAJOR SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFFLINE DURING THE INVESTIGATION AND POTENTIAL REMEDIATION.
SO THAT HAS RESULTED IN MANY OF OUR, UM, SERVICES AND INFORMATION NOT BEING AVAILABLE ONLINE, UM, AND LACK OF ACCESS TO MANY OF OUR SYSTEMS. UM, AND SO WE ARE STILL HOSTING THIS EVENING'S MEETING IN PERSON AND WE DO STILL HAVE THE VIRTUAL, UH, ZOOM OPTION AVAILABLE.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL RECEIVED, UM, THE MANY, UH, NOTICES WE SENT, UM, BY EMAIL AND SOCIAL MEDIA EARLIER TODAY TO CLARIFY THAT GIVEN THE SITUATION, THE ADU AND SB NINE STUDY SESSION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
UM, AND THAT ARE, UM, ONE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT OUR ONE MEETING SYSTEM, UH, WHICH RUNS THE MEETINGS HERE MAY BE RUNNING A BIT SLOWLY.
UM, SO I WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE.
WE MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME DELAYS IN MOVING FROM KIND OF ONE AGENDA ITEM TO THE OTHER.
WE'LL BE TAKING ROLL CALL VOTE AS THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UM, ALREADY REALIZED AND JUST APPRECIATE YOUR GENERAL PATIENCE WHILE WE WORK THROUGH THIS, UM, THIS INCIDENT.
UH, AND THEN THAT CONCLUDES MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? NOPE.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC? OKIE DOKIE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY VIRTUALLY THAT WISHES TO DISCUSS, UH, REGARDING THE DIRECTOR'S, UH, REPORT? IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON, ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
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OKAY.MADAM CLERK, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE NOW, PLEASE.
WE WILL BE TAKING A VERBAL VOTE.
[2. 23-25653 Recommendation to approve the minutes of the Planning Commission meeting on Thursday, November 2, 2023. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND.UM, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CASTILLO HAS JOINED US.
JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD VERY QUICKLY, I BELIEVE THE MOTION WAS COMMISSIONER WARE AND THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER CLEMSON CLEMSON? YES.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE'RE ON THE MINUTES.
IS THERE ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? THANK YOU.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, MAY WE HAVE THE VOTE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER CASTILLO? YES.
AND COMMISSIONER TEMPLE, OR EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR? YES.
IT WILL BE DISPLAYED AS FOUR ON THE SCREEN BECAUSE COMMISSIONER CASTILLO CAME IN HALFWAY THROUGH THE VOTE, BUT I WILL ON THE BACK END.
MAY WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UH, ITEM PLEASE.
[3. 23-25740 Recommendation to accept Categorical Exemption CE-23-133; and Approve a Conditional Use Permit (CUP23-015) and adopt the proposed findings and conditions of approval thereto, for the operation of a nonprofit preschool within a portion of an existing two-story resource center (West Long Beach Facilities Center) located in Admiral Kidd Park at 2125 Santa Fe Avenue in the Park (P) Zoning District. The project includes the replacement of the existing play equipment within the exterior 2,800-square-foot play yard. (District 7) Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
ITEM THREE IS RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION CE DASH 23 DASH ONE 13 AND APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THERETO FOR THE OPERATION OF A NONPROFIT PRESCHOOL WITHIN A PORTION OF AN EXISTING TWO STORY RESOURCE CENTER LOCATED IN ADMIRAL KIDD PARK AT 2125 SANTA FE AVENUE IN THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT.THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF AN EXISTING PLAY EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE EXTERIOR, 2,800 SQUARE FOOT PLAY YARD DISTRICT SEVEN.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM PLEASE? SO MOVED.
AND THAT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER CL, COMMISSIONER CLEMSON SECOND.
AND THAT'S COMMISSIONER CASTILLO.
DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
WE DO, UH, PROJECT PLANNER BALTAZAR BARRIOS.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING THE PRESENTATION, UM, ON THIS THIS EVENING.
WELL, UH, GOOD EVENING VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
TODAY HAS BEEN QUITE A TUMULTUOUS DAY, BUT I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE ALL HERE AND, UM, HAPPY TO BE GIVING THIS PRESENTATION TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
SO TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING BEFORE YOU AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
STAFF HAS PREPARED, UH, A PRESENTATION FOR THIS.
UH, BEFORE WE DIVE, UH, DEEPER, UH, LEMME PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT SITE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2125 SANTA FE AVENUE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS ADMIRAL KIDD PARK.
IT IS ZONED AS A PARK DISTRICT AND UNDER THE GENERAL PLAN, THE PLACE TYPE IS A OPEN SPACE.
UM, AND CURRENTLY THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY A COUPLE OF OTHER USES THAT, UH, SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, UH, PARK, AND, UH, OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF AN EXISTING TWO STORY RESOURCE CENTER, UH, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE WEST LONG BEACH FACILITY CENTER.
UH, HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE FACILITY CENTER AND THE EXISTING
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PLAYGROUND.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE OPERATION OF A, UH, WELL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A NON-PROFIT PRESCHOOL AND TO REPLACE THE EXISTING PLAY EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE EXISTING EXTERIOR PLAY YARD.
THE REMODELED PLAYGROUND WILL BE THEMED AROUND A FOREST ADVENTURE THEME, WHICH, UH, SOME OF THE ELEMENTS INCLUDED ARE A DRY RIVER BED WITH A DRAINAGE SWALE, SAND TABLES, YOU KNOW, WITH A WATER PUMP AND A WOOD SHADE STRUCTURE WITH ESSENTIAL, SAY SHADE SAILS.
AND SO JUST SOME OF THE, UH, ELEMENTS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IN THIS NEW PLAYGROUND.
SO THE PROJECT IT WILL TAKE, UH, WILL BE LOCATED IN A 2,773 SQUARE FOOT TENANT SPACE WITHIN THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE RESOURCE CENTER.
THE TENNIS SPACE WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A PRESCHOOL OPERATED BY THE LONG BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND AS MENTIONED THERE IS AN EXISTING 2,800 SQUARE FOOT, UH, FENCE OUTDOOR PLAY AREA, UH, ALONG SANTA FE AVENUE.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE REPLACED, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAYGROUND WILL, WILL TAKE PLACE.
AS FOR PARKING, THE UH, BUILDING IS ADJACENT TO A PARKING LOT THAT HAS 16 SPACES TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A SEPARATE PARKING LOT WITH 50 SPACES AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE, UH, PROJECT SITE, THERE'S ANOTHER PARKING LOT WITH 21 SPACES.
THE PROPOSED USE UNDER THE MUNICIPAL CODE HAS A REQUIREMENT OF FOUR PARKING SPACES AND TWO LOADING SPACES.
AND THE APPLICANT IS, UH, IS PROVIDING TWO LOADING SPACES AND THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN AB 2097.
SO IT IS EXEMPT FROM ALL MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
HERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE PRESCHOOL.
UH, THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE 10 SPACE WILL CREATE, UH, THREE CLASSROOMS WITH DIAPER CHANGING TABLES AND A NEW PLUMBING FIXTURE.
TO KIND OF POINT OUT THE, UH, CHANGING TABLES WILL BE AT THE, YOU KNOW, WEST, SORRY, THE EAST END OF THE, OF EACH OF THE, UH, CLASSROOMS. THERE WILL BE A 120 SQUARE FOOT TALLERS RESTROOM.
THERE IS A 303 SQUARE FOOT ADMINISTRATION AND OFFICE AREA, AND THAT ALSO HAS AN ADULT RESTROOM.
AND THERE'LL ALSO BE ONSITE STORAGE SPACE AND A TRASH ENCLOSURE.
AS FOR THE OPERATION PLAN, THE NONPROFIT THAT WILL BE OPERATING THIS PRESCHOOL, UH, CURRENTLY SERVES THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AT ANOTHER FACILITY.
UH, THAT FACILITY OFFERS SERVICES TO CHILDREN BETWEEN THE AGES OF THREE TO FIVE YEARS OLD.
HOWEVER, THIS FACILITY WILL SERVE A MUCH YOUNGER AGE GROUP RANGING FROM 18 MONTHS TO 36 MONTHS.
AND, UH, PER OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, FOR, UH, DAYCARES OR PRESCHOOLS, THEY WILL BE A, A MAXIMUM OF 37 STUDENTS AT THIS PRESCHOOL.
AS FOR THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THEY MENTIONED, THEY'LL BE 10 TO 12 EMPLOYEES, NINE FULL-TIME, ONE PART-TIME, AND THERE WILL BE HEALTH STAFF, UH, ONSITE AS WELL.
AND THE CURRENT PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE FROM 7:30 AM TO 5:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THE PROJECT CURRENTLY HAS A LIST OF PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN SPECIAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THIS PROJECT.
SOME THAT INCLUDE THAT THE NONPROFIT WILL MAINTAIN ITS NONPROFIT STATUS AS DEFINED BY THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, AND THAT THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT WILL BE 37 CHILDREN.
HOWEVER, THAT NUMBER MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON OFFICIAL BUILDING OCCUPANCY DETERMINATIONS AS WELL FOR THE LOADING SPACE.
PREVIOUSLY, THE PRESCHOOL THAT WAS OPERATED BY THE LONG BEACH SCHOOL DISTRICT DID NOT
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HAVE ANY DEDICATED LOADING SPACES, UH, ON SITE IN EITHER OF THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.AND SO FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THE SITE INTO A BIT OF AN IMPROVEMENT BY REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO DEDICATE TWO OF THOSE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES AS, UH, LOADING SPACES THAT WOULD BE, UH, USED AS LOADING SPACES DURING THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE PRESCHOOL AS WELL.
THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT WILL, UH, LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND AS WELL AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE PLAY AREA.
THERE WILL BE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WILL ALSO DEDICATE, UH, ESTABLISH A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE PLAY AREA.
UM, AND THAT OCCUPANCY WILL BE NOT POSTED ON SITE.
AND THAT DOCUMENTATION, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR PRIOR TO US ISSUING THE BUSINESS LICENSE.
AND AS WELL, THERE WILL BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE PRESCHOOL OPERATOR WILL NOTIFY PARENTS AND LEGAL GUARDIANS, UH, ABOUT THE DE DEDICATED AREAS WHERE THEY MAY DROP OFF.
UH, STUDENTS FOR CUP TO BE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, THE CUP MUST BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH A, UH, NUMBER OF FINDINGS.
AND THOSE FINDINGS INCLUDE CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING OF THE, UH, PROPERTY.
AND ALSO, UH, THE PROPOSED USE MUST BE, UH, NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
UH, CURRENTLY THE PROPOSED USE CAN, UH, POSITIVE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE IN THAT IT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN PLACE TYPE FOR OPEN SPACE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DESIGN REGULATIONS OF THE PARK DISTRICT.
AND AS CONDITIONED THE PROJECT IS, UH, WILL, YOU KNOW, WILL NOT IMPACT OR BE DETRIMENTAL TO SURROUNDING, UH, COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS THAT MUST BE REQUIRED FOR THE PRESCHOOL AS STATED IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
AND THOSE, UH, FINDINGS INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENCY WITH THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR EACH STUDENT, A BUFFER OF A SIMILAR USE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS, AND THAT THERE'LL BE ADEQUATE OFF STREET LOADING SPACES AS PROVIDED.
UH, CURRENTLY AS, AS CONDITIONED.
THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THESE FINDINGS.
UM, AND AS WELL, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE PROPOSING ACUP IN A PARK ZONING DISTRICT, UH, ADDITIONAL FINDINGS WILL ALSO BE MADE, UH, THERE AS WELL.
UM, THOSE FINDINGS INCLUDE CONSISTENCY WITH THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT, THE DEVELOPMENT SPACE, PLACE TYPE, AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE, UH, SITE, UH, SPECIFIC PLAN OR, UH, COASTAL, UH, LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAMS. UM, AND THAT THE USE DOES NOT PERMANENTLY REMOVE OR INFRINGE UPON ANY, UH, ACCESS TO THE OPEN SPACE OR ADMIRAL KIT PARK.
FOR THESE TWO FINDINGS, THE PROJECT CAN BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF OUR OPEN SPACE, UH, PLACE TYPE AND AS WELL FOR THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT.
AND SINCE ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE MADE WITHIN EXISTING, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE AND NOT EXPAND, UH, THIS, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED PRESCHOOL WILL NOT IMPEDE ANY TYPE OF ACCESSIBILITY TO ADMIRAL KID PARK UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
THE PROJECT IS CATEGOR CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT UNDER SECTIONS 15 3 0 1 FOR EXISTING FACILITIES AND 15 302 REPLACEMENT OR RECONSTRUCTION.
AS FOR NOTICING, THE PROJECT WAS NOTICED TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN A 750 SQUARE FOOT RADIUS.
UH, FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY PUBLIC NOTICES WERE DISTRIBUTED AND NO COMMENTS WERE RETURNED.
UH, TO, TO STAFF WITH ALL THE FINDINGS BEING MADE IN THE POSITIVE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE COMMISSION ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION AND APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 23 DASH 15 AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND THE CONDITIONS
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OF APPROVAL.THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE, AND STAFF AS WELL WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, THE PRESENTATION? WELL, SEEING NONE,
SORRY, COMMISSIONER CLEMENT? UH, YEAH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS, I NOTICED WAS THERE WAS A RESTRICTION ON THE, ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, 7:30 AM TO 5:00 PM WHAT IS THE, UH, RATIONALE FOR THAT? SO THESE RESTRICTIONS ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION COME FROM OUR MUNICIPAL CODE UNDER SECTION 21 DASH 52.
LEMME GET THE EXACT CODE SECTION FOR YOU AS WELL.
I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO UNDER 21, UH, DASH, UH, 2152 DASH 2 49, THERE ARE SPECIFIC, UH, RESTRICTIONS ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT THE PRESCHOOL MAY OPERATE.
UM, AND LET ME PULL UP THOSE EXACT HOURS FROM THE, UH, CODE AS WELL.
BUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE, WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND THEY FALL WITHIN THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT MUST BE MET IN, UH, OUR CODE, WHICH IS FROM 6:00 AM TO 7:30 PM.
UM, SO STAFF PROVIDED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OPERATIONS THAT THEY, UH, PROVIDED TO US.
SO THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT ARE IN THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL ARE PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AND IT'S JUST TO MEMORIALIZE THOSE PROPOSED CONDITION, UM, HOURS WHICH ARE, UH, ELIGIBLE TO BE MODIFIED AS LONG AS THEY FALL WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK OF THE OVERARCHING, UH, SPECIAL CONDITION UNDER THAT PORTION OF THE SECTION FOR THESE TYPES OF USES.
SO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED OPERATION TIME IS 6:00 AM TO SEVEN 30.
SO THIS FALLS WELL WITHIN THAT AND CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE AT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION IF, UM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, EVEN IF THIS OPERATOR AT THIS TIME OPERATES WITHIN THOSE HOURS, GIVEN THAT THE CODES AS IT CAN GO LONGER, UM, AS A MOTHER DOES SOME PRESCHOOL KIDS, I HAVE A FEELING I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS
SO, UM, IF THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, WE COULD DO THAT SO THAT BECAUSE IT RUNS WITH THE LAND, UM, THIS OR ANY FUTURE OPERATOR COULD EXPAND THEIR, UH, HOURS.
I I, I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS, IT BEING SELF-IMPOSED IS, IS FINE.
I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT IN HAVING IT IN THERE.
UH, SO I WOULD HOPE THERE'D BE SUPPORT ON, ON OUR END TO JUST X THAT OUT, COMPLY WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THE LAW, UH, IF WE WANT TO EXPAND IT OUT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, MOST FOLKS WORK TILL FIVE.
IF, IF THERE BECOMES A NEED FOR LATE PICKUP, I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THAT HAPPENING.
UM, SO ANYWAY, MOVING ON, I'LL GET AN APPLICANT, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT TOO.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE APPLICANT.
I THINK MY CLIENT ACTUALLY, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE EXTENSION OF HOURS.
THEY JUST PROVIDED THEIR TYPICAL OPERATING HOURS, NOT REALIZING IT WOULD BE A DROP DEAD TIME.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL, UH, IF WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO ADDRESS? UH, NO THANK YOU.
I WOULD JUST SAY INSTEAD OF STRIKING IT OUT TO ACTUALLY STATE THE HOURS THAT ARE IN THE CODE AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT THEY CAN OPERATE WITHIN THAT TIME SO THAT THEIR OPERATIONS DO CHANGE, THERE'S NO NEED TO COME BACK OR TO ASK FOR CHANGES TO IT.
SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT IT WOULD BE THE FULL HOURS THAT ARE IN THE CODE.
SO AS WE KINDA GET DOWN TO A MOTION AND YOU TAKE IT BEHIND THE RAIL FOR DELIBERATIONS, WE HAVE SOME SUGGESTED LANGUAGE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THAT CONDITION.
UM, I I WAS, WERE THERE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ARE YOU MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW? SO IS THERE ANYBODY, UH, PRESENT THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? OKIE DOKIE.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY VIRTUALLY THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS? YES, IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE
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USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.THE FIRST PERSON WITH THEIR HAND RAISED IS JOE.
GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT AND I'LL UNMUTE YOU.
OKAY, JOE, GIVE ME JUST ONE MOMENT.
UM, IT'S NOT ALLOWING ME TO UNMUTE YOU, SO JUST HOLD TIGHT, JOE, WHEN YOU ARE UNMUTED, YOU ALL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
SO WE'RE HAVING OUR TECHNICIANS LOOK INTO IT RIGHT NOW.
IT WILL BE JUST ANOTHER MOMENT.
OKAY, JOE, YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED.
UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, MY NAME IS JOE HOWER.
UM, I INITIALLY RAISED MY HAND BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DETAILS OF THIS WAS THAT I CAN'T SEE THIS CONTENT THAT WAS BEING PROJECTED.
UH, WHAT, WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS VIDEO THAT SHOWED TWO SCREENS IN THE BACK THAT WERE TOTALLY UNREADABLE TO ME.
UM, IN OTHER SETTINGS LIKE THIS, THEY WOULD, INSTEAD OF SHOWING THE AUDITORIUM, THEY WOULD SHOW ON THE ZOOM THE, UH, THE ACTUAL SLIDES.
NOW, I AM NOT SUGGESTING YOU NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN HERE, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE.
AND I GUESS WHILE I HAVE THE MIC, I WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT LIMITING THIS FACILITY, UH, TO TO BE DONE AT FIVE O'CLOCK FOR SOMETHING INVOLVING CHILDCARE WOULD, WOULD NOT BE A GOOD IDEA.
AND I WOULD SUPPORT CHANGING THAT.
THANK YOU MR. HOWARD AND NOTED, APPRECIATE THAT.
NEXT SPEAKER, ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, THEN WE CAN CALL FOR THE VOTE.
UH, YOU MAY WANNA TAKE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM CHAIR.
UH, YOU HAD SOME PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR US.
SO A LANGUAGE WE COULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE TO, TO STRIKE THE CONDITION WITH OPERATING HOURS AND TO REPLACE IT WITH LANGUAGE ALONG THE LINES OF OPERATIONS SHALL COMPLY WITH LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 21 POINT 52.249.
I THINK THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN.
UH, AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE WAS ACTUALLY, UH, COMMISSIONER CASTILLO ACTUALLY POINTED OUT ANOTHER SECTION THAT WAS DEALING, UH, WHICH WAS 98 9 B OH NINE B, SORRY, UH, WHICH WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS OF OUTDOOR PLAY.
AND I DO THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDLESSLY LIMITING OPERATIONS.
UM, I WOULD IMAGINE ESPECIALLY AT A TIME LIKE THIS TIME OF YEAR, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE OUTSIDE ANYWAY.
UM, BUT UH, I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW, I, LITTLE, LITTLE NIGHTTIME, UH, BUT, UH, I THINK THEY WOULD, UH, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO REMOVE THAT AS WELL.
UH, KIND OF PURSUANT TO THE SAME, PROBABLY JUST COMPLETELY STRIKE THAT.
SO WHEN WOULD IT BE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A CHANGE TO CONDITION THAT SAYS THAT OPERATIONS
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INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SHALL COMPLY? WELL, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT STRIKING NINE B COMPLETELY, UH, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IF THEY'RE, WELL, WE BE ABLE TO MODIFY FIVE TO INCLUDE BOTH AND THEN STRIKE THIS ONE.YOU COULD MODIFY FIVE TO INCLUDE BOTH AND THEN STRIKE.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT ALL USES THAT ARE COMPLYING WITH THE LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
YEAH, AND I CONCUR WITH THAT, THAT AMENDMENT.
SO I, I, UH, I DO, I DO THAT
YOU SECOND THE DECK, YOU THE MAKE.
I'M JUST GONNA PUT A CLEAN ARTICULATION OF WHAT I THINK THE FRIENDLY IS TO YOUR OWN MOTION.
SO IT SOUNDS TO ME WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS TO HAVE, UM, CONDITION NUMBER FIVE REPHRASED TO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THAT OPERATIONS.
UM, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SHALL COMPLY WITH LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 21.5 2.249, AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE NINE CONDITION NINE B.
UM, YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT STRIKE STRICKEN FROM THE CONDITIONS.
AND COMMISSIONER, WHERE YOU WERE THE SECONDER? UH, CASTILLO CASTILLO WAS THE SECONDER.
AND THAT'S AGREEABLE? THE FRIENDLY? YES.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE VOTE, THOUGH, I DO WANNA SAY, LOOKING INTO THE DESIGN OF THIS, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLAYGROUND AND IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY GREAT SCHOOL.
AND IF I, YOU KNOW, MY, MY SON IS MORE THAN THREE YEARS OLD, SO IT'S NOT EVEN A POINT, BUT IF HE WAS UNDER THREE, I WOULD REALLY BE HAPPY IF HE COULD GO TO A PLACE LIKE THIS.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MAY WE HAVE THE VOTE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER CASTILLO? I'M SORRY.
[4. 23-25743 Recommendation to receive and file a study session related to Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) and Senate Bill (SB) 9. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
THE NEXT ITEM IS ACTUALLY, UH, A STUDY SESSION.I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN, UH, CANCELED UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY.
DO WE HAVE A DATE TO SET IT, TO RENEW TO, OR IS THAT GONNA BE OPEN-ENDED? UM, SO I BELIEVE SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, I'M LOOKING TO THE CLERK, BUT I THINK WE'LL STILL OPEN IT AND I CAN JUST GIVE YOU LIKE A ONE SENTENCE UPDATE, BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
DUE TO THE TECHNOLOGY ISSUE, UM, WE ARE GONNA POSTPONE IT, UH, LIKELY TO OUR DECEMBER MEETING, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THAT POST.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA START WITH AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE WERE GONNA CONTINUE WITH IT.
SO, UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM? PLEASE MOVE TO POSTPONE ITEM FOUR TO, NO, JUST, JUST TO OPEN IT.
UH, I MOVE THE, THE, TO APPROVE THE MOTION.
I THINK SOME CLARITY, COMMISSIONER CASTILLO, WE, WE NEED SOME CLARITY ON THE MOTION.
UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE STUDY SESSION NOT BE HELD TODAY.
WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH NOTICING AND POTENTIAL POTENTIAL.
I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE, COMMISSIONER CASTILLO, SO JUST FOR CATCH UP AND SOME, UM, CONCERNS AROUND HAVING THE FULL EXTENT OF NOTICE AND ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF TABLE IS THAT WE OPEN THE ITEM AND WE MOVE IT FORWARD IN TIME WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THESE UNDERLYING TECHNOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGES.
BUT WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE ITEM STILL AND HAVE YOU VOTE ON IT.
WHERE, HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT MOTION BE PHRASED THEN?
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO IT.
I'LL MOVE TO OPEN THE ITEM AND MOVE IT TO A DATE, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UH, JUST BECAUSE I SEE WE DO STILL HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE AND VIRTUALLY JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, UH, WHAT WAS BRIEFLY MENTIONED IN, UM, THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED A STUDY SESSION REGARDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS,
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UM, UH, AND OUR POTENTIAL LOCAL POLICIES HERE AT THE CITY, AS WELL AS, UM, RELATED TO IMPLEMENTATION OF SENATE BILL NINE OR SSB NINE.SO AS THE CITY LOOKS TO CONTINUE FACILITATING HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO MEET OUR HOUSING GOALS AND POLICIES, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, IN, IN, IN OUR LOCAL CONTROL TO CONTINUE FACILITATING THOSE UNITS AND TO ALSO INCENTIVIZE, UH, QUALITY DESIGN AND OTHER, UM, COMMUNITY PRIORITIES THAT THERE MAY BE.
UM, THE STUDY SESSION WOULD FOCUS ON, UM, GIVING THE COMMISSION AN UPDATE ON WHAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN TO DATE.
WE'VE BEEN HARD AT WORK ON, UM, THIS WORK SINCE EARLY IN 2023, INCLUDING EXTENSIVE OUTREACH OVER THE SUMMER AND INTO THE FALL.
UM, SO WE DO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK WITH A THOROUGH STUDY SESSION, UM, AT A LATER DATE, UM, ONCE THESE TECHNOLOGY ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, UM, AND LOOK FORWARD TO A ROBUST CONVERSATION AROUND HOW DO WE CONTINUE, UM, CREATING, UH, GENTLE DENSITY FOLLOWING STATE LAW, BUT ALSO INCENTIVIZING, UM, SOME OF OUR LOCAL PRIORITIES, UM, AROUND DESIGN IN A WAY THAT BEST FACILITATES ADDITIONAL HOUSING THAT'S NEEDED HERE ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE.
UH, IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
AND IF YOU'RE JOINING US TELEPHONICALLY, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY FURTHER COMMENT QUESTIONS? OKAY, MAY WE HAVE THE VOTE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER CASTILLO? YES.
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Planning Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT.IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, ON ANYTHING THAT WASN'T ALREADY SCHEDULED? THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS OSCAR AND I WAS ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE STUDY SESSION.
UM, I WAS, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE RESCHEDULED TO.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE A DATE YET? OR WHEN IS THE NEXT, UH, MEETING THAT THIS IS FOR THINGS THAT HAVE NOT ALREADY.
THERE, THERE IS NO DATE BUT THERE, THIS IS FOR THINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE AGENDA.
NON AGENDIZED ITEMS. OSCAR, WE DON'T WANNA CUT INTO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
YEAH, THAT'S 'CAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE, WE CAN SEND A STAFF MEMBER OVER TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
IS THERE ANYBODY VIRTUALLY? YES.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON AGENDIZED ITEMS, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK RIGHT ABOUT NOW,
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FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NONE.I WANNA WISH EVERYBODY A VERY GOOD, HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND BLESSINGS TO ALL YOUR FAMILIES AND YOURSELF.
AND, UM, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I DECLARE
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THE MEETING ADJOURNED.