* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TO ORDER. [00:00:01] IT IS NINE OH EIGHT. ROLL CALL PLEASE. YES, PRESIDENT FROST HOLLINS. HERE, VICE PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON. HERE. COMMISSIONER LOVE HERE. COMMISSIONER OONA HERE. AND THAT'S HOW I BELIEVE YOU'RE LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO [ROLL CALL] THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INADMISSIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND THAT IS VANESSA FROM THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU FOR LEADING US. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. ON AGENDA ITEMS, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? I DO KNOW WE HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR ITEM SIX, AND WE CAN TAKE THAT DURING THE ITEM. ARE THERE ANY OTHER REQUESTS? SEEING NONE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] THAT WOULD MOVE US INTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MAY I [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Civil Service Commission on agenda items. ] GET A MOTION? SECOND ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. [CONSENT CALENDAR (1. – 4.)] ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT COMPLETE, WE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE MINUTES OF CIVIL SERVICE, SPECIAL MEETING, AND REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER 6TH, 2023. AND I SEE A MOTION. SECOND. ANY AMENDMENTS? CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. [5. 23-51535 Recommendation to approve minutes of Civil Service Special Meeting and Regular Meeting of December 6, 2023.        Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SIX, RECOMMENDATION FOR REAPPOINTMENT OF DISMISSED EMPLOYEE ALOLA ODEN. AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THAT'LL FOLLOW THE REPORT. SO, SO FIRST, FIRST OFF, WE HAVE CORRESPONDENCE FROM JAMIE KERR FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND MARIA WILL BE PRESENTING? YES. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. CORRESPONDENCE [6. 23-51507 Recommendation for reappointment of dismissed employee – Omolola Odeniyi, Criminalist I.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM JAMIE KERR, ACTING PERSONNEL ADMINISTRATOR OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, REQUESTING CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION APPROVAL TO REAPPOINT RESIGNED EMPLOYEE OLA OI TO THE CLASSIFICATION OF CRIMINALIST ONE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 45 AND ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION 85 OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO, FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, MS. OYE WAS HIRED AS A CRIMINALIST ONE ON DECEMBER 7TH, 2020, AND ATTAINED PERMANENT STATUS ON JANUARY 3RD, 2022. SHE SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY UNTIL SHE WAS TERMINATED FROM HER CLASSIFICATION ON JULY 30TH, 2020 2, 23. UM, MS. YE WAS TERMINATED FROM CLASSIFICATION, UH, WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE IMMIGRATION REFORM AND CONTROL ACT OF 1986. MS. YE'S. EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION DOCUMENT EXPIRED ON JULY 31ST, 2023. THE IRCA PROHIBITS EMPLOYERS FROM HIRING OR EMPLOYING AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE US KNOWING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES, EMPLOYERS ARE ALSO PROHIBITED FROM CONTINUING TO EMPLOY AN INDIVIDUAL KNOWING THAT HE OR SHE IS UNAUTHORIZED FOR EMPLOYMENT. ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023, MS. OR REACHED OUT TO THE LEADERSHIP AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ADVISING THAT SHE HAD RECEIVED HER VALID EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION DOCUMENT AND EXPRESSED HER INTEREST IN RETURNING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A PERMANENT FULL-TIME CAPACITY. AS A CRIMINALIST, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED MS. YE'S. EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTATION AS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS AN APPROVED REQUISITION ON FILE. SHOULD THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS REQUEST. ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 45 OF THOSE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS [00:05:01] STATES THAT IF NO PRIORITY LIST EXISTS FOR CLASSIFICATION, WHICH HAS BEEN REQUISITION, A RESIGNED OR RETIRED EMPLOYEE WHO HAD ACQUIRED PERMANENT STATUS IN THE CLASS CLASSIFICATION, MAY AFTER APPROVAL BY THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY AND THE CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION BE REAPPOINTED TO THE CLASSIFICATION. IF REA APPOINTED, THE EMPLOYEE MUST SERVE A NEW PROBATIONARY PERIOD. IN ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION 85 OF THOSE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS ALLOWS ANY EMPLOYEE WHO HAS BEEN DISMISSED FROM THE CITY'S SERVICE FOR DISCIPLINARY REASONS, SHALL HAVE HIS OR HER NAME REMOVED FROM ALL ELIGIBLE AND PRIORITY LIST BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND SHALL NEITHER BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CIVIL SERVICE EXAMINATION, NOR BE REAPPOINTED TO ANY CLASSIFIED POSITION UNLESS AFTER REVIEW THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZES HIS OR HER ELIGIBILITY. ALTHOUGH MS. OYE DID NOT RESIGN, BUT WAS DISMISSED DUE TO A LAPSE IN HER EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION STATUS, SHE HAD ACHIEVED PERMANENT STATUS IN THE CLASSIFICATION. AND ACCORDING TO ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 45, AT THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION, A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE MAY BE REAPPOINTED TO THE CLASSIFICATION. FURTHERMORE, WHEN A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE IS REINSTATED, THE EMPLOYEE WILL SERVE A NEW PROBATIONARY PERIOD. AND ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION 85 FURTHER CLARIFIES THE PREROGATIVE OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION TO REVIEW AND AUTHORIZE A REAPPOINTMENT OF A DISMISSED EMPLOYEE. MS. OYE IS AWARE OF AND AGREES TO THE REQUIREMENT TO SERVE A NEW PROBATIONARY PERIOD. AND BECAUSE, BECAUSE ALL PRIOR CIVIL SERVICE RIGHTS WERE SEVERED AT HER DISMISSAL, UH, CIVIL SERVICE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND STAFF FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, IS PRESENT. AND I BELIEVE MS. OREE WAS GONNA, UH, BE PRESENT ALSO. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S ARRIVED YET. SHE HAS NOT. SO, UM, THE STAFF FROM THE DEPARTMENT IS HERE. OKAY. I BELIEVE SHE WAS OUR REQUEST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO DOESN'T THAT MEAN WE HAVE NO REQUEST AT THIS POINT? NO. OKAY. I MEAN, SHE CAN SPEAK AT THE END. IF SHE SHOWS UP, SHE MAY NOT SHOW UP. FAIR, FAIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM SEVEN, RECOMMENDATION FOR SELECTIVE CERTIFICATION. ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST TWO. ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. UM, CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM REGINALD HARRIS, DIRECTOR OF DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, UH, REQUESTING CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION AUTHORIZATION, UH, TO AUTHORIZE THE SELECTIVE CERTIFICATION OF AN ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST. TWO, UM, DUE TO THE, UH, COMPLEX TECHNICAL SKILLSET AND GRANT ADMINISTRATION RELATED TO THE DEPARTMENT, A CANDIDATE WITH SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE SUPPORTING THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND GRANTS OFFICER, UM, IN THE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM, UM, GRANTS COORDINATOR AND ADMINISTRATIVE WORK, UM, IS REQUIRED. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST, UM, AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 28 OF CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND CIVIL SERVICE PROCEDURE. UH, 2.26. UM, ARTICLE, UH, FOUR SECTION 28 DOES STATE THAT IF A VACANT POSITION REQUIRES, IN ADDITION TO THE CLASSIFICATIONS MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, UH, SPECIAL SKILLS, KNOWLEDGE OR ABILITIES NOT REQUIRED OF OTHER EMPLOYEES IN THE CLASSIFICATION, THE COMMISSION AT ITS DISCRETION SHALL AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO CERTIFY ONLY THOSE NAMES, UM, OF THOSE ELIGIBLE WHO POSSESS THE PARTICULAR SKILL. UM, THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE, UH, AAA CLASSIFICATION, UH, WERE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, UM, PERMANENT ACCREDITED COLLEGE OR A UNIVERSITY. UM, AND WE DID OFFER, UM, UH, A SUBSTITUTION, UM, OPTION FOR THIS. SO FOUR YEARS, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUIVALENT EXPERIENCE, UM, AS A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE AIDE ONE THROUGH TWO, UH, WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH OR HIGHER, UH, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC AND SUBSTANTIAL PREPARATION, UH, FOR THE DUTIES OF THE POSITION. THIS POSITION, UM, IS UNIQUE AND SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT, UM, FROM OTHER, UH, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST POSITIONS WITHIN THE CLASSIFICATION. UM, AND IT DOES REQUIRE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK RELATED TO GRANT COMPLIANCE, GRANT PROPOSALS, GRANT ACCOUNT RECONCILIATION, DRAFTING AND ROUTING OF CITY COUNCIL LETTERS, UH, FOR GRANT CONTRACTS. UM, CURRENTLY, UH, THERE ARE 278 CANDIDATES ON THE EXISTING, UM, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST LIST. UM, THE ELIGIBLE LIST IS SET TO EXPIRE [7. 23-51545 Recommendation for selective certification- Assistant Administrative Analyst II.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2024. UM, IT IS A CITYWIDE CLASSIFICATION, UM, PENDING THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF THE SELECTIVE CERTIFICATION REQUEST. CIVIL SERVICE STAFF STAFF WILL FURTHER ASSESS, UH, THE CANDIDATES ON THE ELIGIBLE LIST FOR THE ADDITIONAL SPECIALIZED SKILLS. UM, AND ONLY THOSE NAMES WILL BE CERTIFIED TO, UM, DEX, UH, REQUISITION. UM, THEY DO HAVE A REQUISITION ON FILE THAT BEING DC 24 DASH 0 0 2. UM, AND IT WAS SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER 2ND OF THIS YEAR, UM, AND IS WITH THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. SO, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, AND WE [00:10:01] DO HAVE A MEMBER FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, DISCUSSION QUESTIONS. AGAIN, GLAD TO SEE THE SELECTIVE CERTIFICATION BEING USED, RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT, RECOMMENDATION FOR TEMPORARY REASSIGNMENT FOR TRAINING JESSICA ROMERO, COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST THREE. YES, CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM NICOLE GROSS, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT, AND SJA WILL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT REQUESTING COMMISSION APPROVAL TO TEMPORARILY REASSIGN JESSICA ROMERO WORKING IN THE STOREKEEPER CLASSIFICATION AT TID TO THE CLASSIFICATION OF COMMUNITY SPECIALIST AT TID [8. 23-51517 Recommendation for temporary reassignment for training – Jessica Romero, Communication Specialist III.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FOR TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT. REQUISITION NUMBER TI 24 0 55 HAS BEEN APPROVED AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL AND ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 63 OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN SECTION 1.20 OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. POLICY AND PROCEDURES, FACTS FOR CONSIDERATION, JESSICA ROMERO WAS FIRST HIRED INTO THE CITY AS THE CLERK TYPE THREE IN THE, UH, TID ON APRIL 4TH, 2016. MS. ROMERO WAS PROMOTED TO THE POSITION OF STOREKEEPER TWO ON MARCH 25TH, 2023, AND OBTAINED PERMANENT STATUS ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2023. THE TRAINING PLAN OUTLINED, SUBMITTED BY TID, DESCRIBES THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, TRAINING METHODS AND CRITERIA NECESSARY TO MEASURE THE SATISFACTORY PROGRESS OF THE TRAINING ASSIGNMENT, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR ONE YEAR. SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE INITIAL TERM OF TRAINING, UH, OF THE TRAINING ASSIGNMENT MAY RESULT IN THE EMPLOYEE BEING ABLE TO MEET THE EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMUNICATION SPECIALISTS ONE THROUGH FOUR CLASSIFICATION, EXCUSE ME, ONE THROUGH SIX CLASSIFICATION IF IT SHALL BE DEEMED NECESSARY. AFTER THE TERM TID WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REQUESTING AN EXTENSION FROM THE COMMISSION. MS. ROMERO HAS BEEN APPRAISED AND AGREES TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF HER TEMPORARY TRAINING. REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION DEPARTMENT ARE PRESENT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CATCH A VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM NINE, RECOMMENDATION FOR PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT OF LIU YAMAMOTO MANIA. UH, WORKERS' COMPENSATIONS CLAIMS ASSISTANT. SORRY. MANIA. UM, CHRISTINA? YES. UM, HUMAN RESOURCES IS ASKED TO HAVE THIS ITEM PULLED. ALRIGHT. WE PULL IT. [9. 23-51516 Recommendation for provisional appointment for Liyo Yamamoto Mancia, Worker’s Compensation Claims Assistant.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] I'M SORRY. DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE OR CAN WE JUST PULL IT? THERE SHOULD BE A VOTE TAKEN FOR THIS TO PULL IT. OKAY. UH, I THINK THE MOTION SECOND WAS MADE BEFORE THE REQUEST TO PULL. SO JOANNE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ASUNA, ARE YOU YES. AGREEABLE WITH THAT? OKAY. YES. LOOKS LIKE WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. ALL RIGHT. UH, CAN WE GET A SECOND? WE STILL DIDN'T GET A SECOND. YEAH, YEAH. UH, I CAN TAKE A VERBAL, WE DON'T HAVE A SCREEN TO DO THAT. YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER GARCA AS A MOTION. MM-HMM. . CAN WE GET A VERBAL SECOND? I'LL, OKAY, GO AHEAD. WE'RE VOTING TO POLL, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GORDON PETERSON, ARE YOU A YES, I'M, MY SCREEN DOESN'T SHOW UP. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ITEM WAS PULLED. ITEM 10, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE TITLE CHANGE REVISED CLASSIFICATION, AND ADAPT AND ADOPT CLASSIFICATION INVESTIGATOR POLICE OVERSIGHT. YES. UH, CORRESPONDENCE WAS RECEIVED FROM FRANCINE CARRIAGE, DIRECTOR OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND, UM, TARSHA MOSES WILL PROVIDING THE STAFF REPORT TODAY. UH, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. ON NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023, THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE [10. 23-51514 Recommendation to approve title change, revise classification, and adopt classification – Investigator, Police Oversight.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FROM FRANCINE CARRIAGE DIRECTOR OF POLICE OVERSIGHT REQUESTING CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION TITLE OF C CITY MANAGER [00:15:01] INVESTIGATOR TO INVESTIGATOR POLICE OVERSIGHT. IN ADDITION, THE REQUEST INCLUDES THE ADOPTION OF THE CLASSIFICATION OF INVESTI INVESTIGATOR POLICE OVERSIGHT, AND THAT THE CLASSIFICATION BE RETAINED IN THE UNCLASSIFIED SERVICE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND RECOMMENDS COMMISSION APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 11, SECTION 1102, A SUBSECTION SIX OF THE CITY CHARTER. THIS REQUEST IS A RESULT OF THE APPROVAL OF MEASURE E BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH VOTERS IN NOVEMBER, 2022 TO ESTABLISH AN OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND A POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION STAFFED BY A DIRECTOR WHO REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IN 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL ORDERED AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE CITIZEN'S POLICE COMPLAINT COMMISSION. THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE ASSESSMENT INCLUDED THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A NEW MODEL OF POLICE OVERSIGHT TO REPLACE THE CURRENT CITIZENS POLICE COMPLAINT COMMISSION. THE NEW MODEL RECOMMENDED REPLACING THE CHARTER CITIZENS POLICE COMPLAINT COMMISSION AND REQUIRED A VOTER APPROVED CHARTER AMENDMENT. THE VOTER APPROVED AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR PLACEMENT ON THE NOVEMBER 22 BALLOT AS MEASURE E. MEASURE E WAS APPROVED BY CITY OF LONG BEACH VOTERS IN NOVEMBER, 2022, WITH 60% SUPPORT TO ESTABLISH AN OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND A POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION STAFFED BY THE DIRECTOR WHO REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE UNCLASSIFIED CLASSIFICATION OF CITY MANAGER INVESTIGATOR WAS PREVIOUSLY LOCATED IN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER. THIS REQUEST INCLUDES CHANGING THE TITLE OF THE CITY MANAGER, INVESTIGATOR CLASSIFICATION TO POLICE, TO INVESTIGATOR POLICE OVERSIGHT, AND TO NOW BE LOCATED IN THE NEW OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. SECTION 1102. A SUBSECTION SIX OF THE CITY CHARTER STATES THAT ANY CLASSIFICATION, WHICH AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION IS OF SUCH NATURE AS TO REQUIRE UNIQUE AND SPECIAL FLEXIBILITY OF EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION SHALL FALL UNDER THE UNCLASSIFIED SERVICE. THIS NEWLY CREATED COMMISSION REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND REQUIRES THE UNIQUE POSITION OF INVESTIGATOR POLICE OVERSIGHT, WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO THE DUTIES OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION, AND WILL PROVIDE EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION OF THE NEW COMMISSION. THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT HAS BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THIS REQUEST IS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. ADDITIONALLY, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES WILL BE PRESENT TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ASUNA? I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, AND TARSIA, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, UM, BUT MAYBE DIRECTOR CARRIAGE COULD. UM, WHAT'S THE VISION FOR THE OVERALL, UH, STAFF SIZE FOR THE OVERSIGHT DEPARTMENT? I HOPE THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS FRANCINE CARES, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. UH, APPRECIATIVE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HOPEFULLY. SO, THE STAFF OF THE OFFICE WAS PREVIOUSLY, UM, FIGURED OUT PRIOR TO MY COMING ON BOARD. UH, CURRENTLY IT IS SET UP TO HAVE TWO POSITIONS IN THE INVESTIGATOR, UH, SLOT, WHICH WE RECEIVED FROM THE CPCC, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION. SO THOSE POSITIONS ARE FILLED. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL, UM, SLOTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED INVESTIGATOR, BUT THEY WILL DO AUDITING FUNCTIONS TO LOOK AT POLICE POLICIES, PROCESSES, AND PROCEDURES, UM, AT THE DIRECTION OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION. WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS PERSON, A, A TYPIST CLERK OR CLERK TYPIST, AND AN EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THE DEPARTMENT COMING TOGETHER. UM, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM 11, RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND PROBATION FOR TIMOTHY LIU. FIREFIGHTER. YES. UH, CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM SARAH GREEN, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND STEPHANIE, ANNETTE, I WILL PROVIDE THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. ON NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023, THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM SARAH GREEN, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR AN EXTENSION OF PRO THE PROBATIONARY [11. 23-51515 Recommendation to extend probation for Timothy Luu, Firefighter.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] PERIOD FOR TIMOTHY LOU FIREFIGHTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 41, SUBSECTION TWO OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND SECTION 1.01, SUBSECTION B, PARAGRAPH ONE OF THE CIVIL SERVICE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AFTER THOROUGH REVIEW AND DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 41, SUBSECTION THREE OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND SECTION 1.01, SUBSECTION B, PARAGRAPH TWO OF THE CIVIL [00:20:01] SERVICE, UM, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SO SOME FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UH, TIMOTHY LIU WAS HIRED AS A FIRE RECRUIT WITH THE SUPPORT SERVICES BUREAU ON OCTOBER 8TH, 2022. HE BECAME A FIREFIGHTER WITH THE, UH, ATIONS BUREAU ON JANUARY 14TH, 2023. HE HAS COMPLETED, UH, 2,540 HOURS, UM, OF PROBATIONARY HOURS AS OF NOVEMBER 17TH, 2023. AND CURRENTLY HIS PROBATIONARY PERIOD IS SCHEDULED TO CONCLUDE ON OR ABOUT JANUARY 12TH, 2024. UM, CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS STATE THAT A FIREFIGHTER SHALL NOT ACQUIRE PERMANENT STATUS UNTIL ONE YEAR PROBATIONARY PERIOD THAT TOTALS 2000, UM, 2088 SCHEDULED HOURS IS COMPLETE, AND THAT THE EXTENSION MAY BE GRANTED BY THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION IN THREE MONTH INCREMENTS, 728 HOURS, AND THAT THEY SHALL NOT EXCEED SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS 1,456 HOURS. UM, CIVIL SERVICE POLICY, UH, 1.01, STIPULATES THAT THE EXTENSION OF THE PROBATIONARY PERIOD MAY BE AUTHORIZED FOR SKILL ACQUISITION ACQUISITION WHEN UNAVAILABILITY OF THE ADEQUATE, UM, SUPERVISION AFFECTED THE EMPLOYEE'S ACQUISITION OF NECESSARY SPECIALIZED OR TECHNICAL SKILLS. MR. ULU REQUIRES ADDITIONAL TIME TO DEVELOP HIS SKILLS AND ALLOW ANOTHER SUPERVISOR TO EVALUATE HIS PERFORMANCE WITH A TRAINING STYLE THAT IS MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH HIS LEARNING STYLES AND ABILITIES. HIS INITIAL TRAINING PROGRAM WAS INSUFFICIENT AS HE WAS NOT ABLE TO WORK ENOUGH SHIFTS AND RESPOND TO ENOUGH EMERGENCY INCIDENTS DURING HIS ENGINE HOUSE ROTATION FOR HIS PERFORMANCE TO BE PROPERLY EVALUATED. PROBATIONARY FIREFIGHTERS ARE EVALUATED FOR SIX MONTHS AT AN ENGINE HOUSE AND SIX MONTHS AT A TRUCK HOUSE. WE ARE REQUESTING A THREE MONTH, UM, 728 HOUR EXTENSION TO ALLOW MR. LUA FULL SIX MONTHS AT THE TRUCK HOUSE FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND THOROUGH EVALUATION. IF THE COMMISSION GRANTS THE EXTENSION OF PROBATION FOR MR. LIU, THIS ADDITIONAL TIME WILL ALLOW HIM TO COMPLETE SUFFICIENT ENGINE HOUSE ROTATIONS FOR A PROPER EVALUATION OF HIS PERFORMANCE. UM, BY ENSURING THAT PROBATION AND FIREFIGHTERS ARE SUCCESSFUL AT BOTH THE ENGINE AND TRUCK ROTATION, THEY CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY SAFELY AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL IF ANOTHER EXTENSION OF PROBATION IS REQUIRED. ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 41, SUBSECTION TWO OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS DOES ALLOW FOR A SECOND EXTENSION. IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SUBMIT A TIMELY REQUEST IF THEY WOULD REQUEST A SECOND EXTENSION. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVING FIREFIGHTER LOU'S EXTENSION OF PROBATIONARY PERIOD IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 41 SUBSECTION THREE OF CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS. AND SECTION 1.01, SUBSECTION B, PARAGRAPH TWO OF THE CIVIL SERVICE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES EXTENDING MR. LOU'S PROBATIONARY PERIOD WILL ENABLE HIM TO CONTINUE HIS FIREFIGHTER TRAINING. UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MR. LIU HAVE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THERE REQUEST IS ON TODAY'S AGENDA, AND I DO HAVE DEPARTMENT STAFF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER KARICA. HI, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I, I HEARD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS AS TO WHY THE EXTENSION IS BEING REQUESTED. MM-HMM. ONE IS, UH, BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH, UH, TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. SO, UH, PERHAPS IF I'M READING INTO IT, NOT ENOUGH CALLS OF THE TYPE THAT THAT MM-HMM. AND THEN THE, THE OTHER ONE WAS, UH, BECAUSE OF, UH, HIS LEARNING STYLE AND ABILITIES. SURE. IS THERE, IS IT ONE? BOTH. I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S BOTH. UM, ESSENTIALLY HE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH SHIFTS IN ORDER FOR HIS PERFORMANCE TO BE EVALUATED. AND THEN WHEN THE EVALUATIONS WERE HAPPENING, THEY WERE HAPPENING UNDER A DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP STYLE. SO THE, THE DEPARTMENT DETERMINED THAT THEY NEEDED A DIFFERENT LEADER FOR HIM, AND THAT IS WHY, UM, THEY WERE ALSO REQUESTING THE EXTENSION. SO KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . OH, YES. COMMISSIONER LEFT. I, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU POSSIBLY WOULD NEED A SECOND EXTENSION. UM, I'M NOT SURE THE RULES AS IF THE RULES ARE RIGHTS. YES. SO, UM, THE RULES DO ALLOW FOR A SECOND EXTENSION. I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT IF THAT IS ANTICIPATED. UM, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW IF THAT DOES COME ABOUT. UM, YOU DO HAVE THE, UM, YOU ARE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT OR CONSIDER THAT. UM, AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A TIMELY REQUEST FOR THAT. OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME, IT'S JUST UNKNOWN. I JUST WANTED TO NOTIFY YOU THAT THAT'S, THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE DEPARTMENT AND TO, TO YOU TO, UM, TO APPROVE QUESTION. OKAY. AND ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT, OR MAYBE THE GENTLEMAN, THE FIREFIGHTER, EXCUSE ME, PRESENT. UM, LOOKING OVER THE MATERIALS I WAS GIVEN, THERE SEEMS TO BE, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT, UH, A WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THIS GENTLEMAN, BUT I DON'T SEE A CONCRETE PLAN LIKE 40 DAYS FROM TODAY, YOU'LL DO THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW TO DO THE, I MEAN, A, A SET PLAN, IT'S JUST FROM MONTH TO MONTH. WE'LL, YOU KNOW, SAME THING. SO I DON'T SEE HOW GRANTING AN EXTENSION TO HIM IF [00:25:01] THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE WAY YOU'RE TRAINING HIM. SURE. I'LL LET THE DEPARTMENT SPEAK ABOUT THEIR PLAN. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. UH, JASON, ISAIAH, ASSISTANT CHIEF OPERATIONS, UH, EXCUSE. THANK YOU FOR QUESTIONS, . UH, YEAH. SO, UH, AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED EARLIER, RIGHT, WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE, UH, PARTS OF THE PROBATIONARY TRAINING. ONE SIX MONTHS FOR ENGINE COMPANY OPERATIONS, AND THEN SIX MONTHS FOR THE TRUCK COMPANY OPERATIONS. SO FIREFIGHTER LOU IS CURRENTLY IN HIS TRUCK COMPANY OPERATIONS. UM, THERE IS A PLAN FOR THE TRUCK TRAINING THAT INVOLVES TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT SPECIFIC TO THAT TRUCK COMPANY. UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IN THAT, IN THAT CURRICULUM. UH, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? SUCCESS, UH, SUCCESS FOR THE CANDIDATE. UM, HE'S DOING WELL, RIGHT? BUT WE NEED TO FINISH HIS TRAINING IN THE TRUCK COMPANY PORTION OF HIS PROBATIONARY PERIOD, JUST TO, AND AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT WE CHECK THE BOXES AND, AND ASSURE THAT HE'S GOING TO BE FINE. BUT THINGS THAT WE SEE HIS TRAJECTORY MOVING FORWARD LOOKS LIKE HE'S ON A SUCCESSFUL, UH, UH, PATH. AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTINUE THAT WITH HIM AND GET HIM THROUGH HIS PROBATION. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS DID HAVE A, A CONCRETE PLAN IN PLACE BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY TIME CONSUMING AND EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO, UH, EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ON THAT TRUCK IS ACCOUNTED FOR. UH, HE WILL BE TRAINED IN THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND THE OPERATIONS THAT, THAT ACCOMPANY THEM. SO AGAIN, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO, TO THE COMMISSION, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. OKAY. NO, I JUST, I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD A CONCRETE PLAN. I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING IT, BUT IT'S NOT MANDATORY. I MEAN, YEAH. ALL, ALL OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE REQUIRED TO, TO FOLLOW THE SAME TRAINING PLAN IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS, THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COVER DURING THEIR PROBATION. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S EASILY, EASILY GATHERED AND, AND WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. VICE PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON. MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. THANK YOU. APOLOGIES. I HAVE ONE PRESIDENT. OH, YES. YEAH. UH, AS FAR AS THE LEADERSHIP STYLE ISSUE, UM, OTHER THAN, UH, CHANGING DIRECT LEADERSHIP, UH, IS THERE A PLAN AROUND THAT? UM, AND ADDRESSING THAT? UM, IS THAT JUST, THERE WAS JUST A, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MANY DETAILS, IT WAS JUST, UH, A CLASH IN LEADERSHIP STYLES AND, AND A DIFFERENT TRAINER OR LEADER OR SUPERVISOR NEEDED TO BE ASSIGNED. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WASN'T THE CASE, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS THAT? UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN CHANGE, UH, SUPERVISORS EVERY TIME THERE'S A CONFLICT IN, UH, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP STYLES. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND SO, UM, IT WAS A, A DIFFERENCE OF LEADERSHIP STYLES FROM FROM STATION TO STATION. UM, ALTHOUGH THE CURRICULUM IS CONSISTENT, HOW THAT CURRICULUM IS, IS PRESENTED, UM, AND EVALUATED WAS, WAS NOT, UM, WAS NOT THE SAME. SO WE ARE MONITORING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE DAILY. WE HAD DAILY EVALUATIONS FROM THE, FROM THE SUPERVISORS. SO WE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS, UM, SOME CHALLENGES THAT THE FIREFIGHTER WAS HAVING. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ENSURE SUCCESS, GET A, A SECOND SET OF EYES AND EVALUATION ON, ON THE FIREFIGHTER. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL TOWARDS, UM, THE FIREFIGHTER SUCCESS MOVING FORWARD, MOVING THROUGH THE PROBATION. AND SO, UH, WE MOVED THE FIREFIGHTER, AND ONCE WE DID THAT, WE DEFINITELY SAW A, A, UM, INCREASE IN AND, AND IMPROVEMENT IN, IN, IN HIS, UH, IN HIS PERFORMANCE. AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE DAILY EVALUATIONS, MONTHLY EVALS, JUST SO WE CAN STAY ON TOP OF THAT. SO, UH, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT IT WAS A, UM, DEFICIENCY IN THE LEADERSHIP'S, UH, THE LEADERSHIP. IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP STYLE. NOTHING THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS WITH THAT, WITH THAT CAPTAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHIEF. UM, PRESIDENT FOSTERS, CAN I JUST SAY THAT THAT ADDITIONAL MOVE IS WHAT TOOK YOU INTO THE SECOND PART OF THE TRAINING, WHICH IS WHY YOU NEED TO COMPLETE THE FULL EXACTLY. COMPONENTS EXACTLY. OF THE SECOND TRAINING. SO THAT MOVE TOOK AWAY A LITTLE BIT OF THAT SECOND PERIOD OF TIME. EXACTLY. AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S ALL TOWARDS, UM, FIREFIGHTER SUCCESS. WE, WE NEED FIREFIGHTERS. WE, AND ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE THAT'S ON A TRA TRAJECTORY OF SUCCESS, WE, WE WANT TO, UH, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT FIREFIGHTER IF WE CAN. SO WE SEE SOMETHING IN THIS INDIVIDUAL, AND WE WANT TO, UM, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO GET HIM PAST THE FINISH LINE. [00:30:01] HE'S GONNA BE A VALUE TO OUR, TO OUR CITY AND OUR DEPARTMENT. COMMISSIONER KIND OF, UH, RELATED, BUT OFF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, GENTLEMAN, UH, KNOWING THAT WE DO NEED FIREFIGHTERS AS A DEPARTMENT, UH, DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS WILLING TO TRAIN AND RETRAIN ON TO ENSURE SUCCESS OF A CANDIDATE. WELL, THAT'S, ARE YOU BEING MORE LENIENT IN OTHER WORDS? OR, OR WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING TRAINING MORE ROBUST FOR CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. YEAH. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY, UM, CHANGING OUR FOCUS IN TERMS OF BEING, UM, FIREFIGHTER SUCCESS ORIENTED. RIGHT. AND, AND WHAT THAT, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR NEWER FIREFIGHTERS COMING IN, UM, MANY OF THEM LEARNED DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT? MAYBE THAN, THAN WHEN I CAME ON 27 YEARS AGO. UH, SO WE'VE LOOKED AT CHANGING OUR CURRICULUM, HOW WE DEVELOP IT, WHERE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING DIFFERENT TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE BRINGING IN, UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UM, PEOPLE TO, UH, HELP TUTOR THEM, UH, AWAY FROM THE ACADEMY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES. AND AGAIN, IT'S ALL CENTERED TOWARDS THAT, THAT THAT PROBATIONARY FIREFIGHTER SUCCESS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, WE'VE MOVED INTO, RIGHT, IS UNDERSTANDING THAT YEAH, PEOPLE LEARN DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT? WE CAN'T TEACH THE SAME WAY FOR EVERYONE. AND I THINK IT'S, UH, THIS SATURDAY WE'RE GONNA BE GRADUATING, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GOT THE INVITATION. WE'LL BE GRADUATING, I BELIEVE IT'S 39, 39 FIREFIGHTERS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALREADY ON THE FLOOR. AND, UH, I THINK IT'S A, A TESTAMENT TO THE, TO THAT APPROACH. WE WERE ABLE TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT, UM, THAT NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS THROUGH THE ACADEMY, OUR ATTRITION, OUR ATTRITION RATE WAS FAIRLY LOW. FAIR. GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM. AND I, I APPRECIATE, UM, AND COMMEND THE FORWARD THINKING TO MAKE, TO SHIFT AS TIMES SHIFT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S NECESSARY. . AND NOW I'LL PASS THIS OVER TO VICE PRESIDENT GORDON. PETER, I WANT TO AGREE WITH JOANNE. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION TO, FOR YOU TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, BUT WE DO HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT YOU WERE GOING TO CHANGE WITH THE TIMES. UM, WHEN THEY HIRED US LONG AGO, WE USED, UH, TELETYPE MACHINES. NO ONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS WHAT THAT IS, . UM, BUT WE HAVE TO CHANGE, AND WE DO NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH AND HOW WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO, UM, GET PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO I, I APPRECIATE, I, I WAS READING THROUGH THE LINES AND, UM, I COULD SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE HAVE TO DO MORE. AND, UM, I THANK YOU FOR THAT DOING MORE. YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE THAT. ONE LAST COMMENT. YES. UM, I, I JUST, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, JUST PIGGYBACK OFF, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND COMMEND YOU ON THE FORWARD THINKING. UM, AS A COMMISSIONER FOR THIS COMMISSION, I'D MUCH RATHER SEE THESE TYPE OF ITEMS IN FRONT OF US, UM, AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE OTHER TYPE OF HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOMETIMES. SO I'D MUCH RATHER WE INVEST IN DEVELOPING OUR, UH, PROBATIONARY FIREFIGHTERS AND, AND, AND OTHER FOLKS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS. I'D MUCH RATHER WE INVEST ON THE FRONT END AND MAYBE, UH, EXTEND SPECIAL EFFORT AROUND, UH, IDENTIFY TALENT AND ENSURE THAT WE KEEP THAT GOOD TALENT HERE WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. SO, THANK YOU, CHIEF. YOU'RE WELCOME. AGAIN, ANYTHING ELSE? SO I HAVE MAYBE JUST ONE MORE. UM, I ASSUME THAT PART OF, UH, KEEPING UP WITH THE TIMES IS MAKING SURE THERE ARE CAPTAINS AND THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN TRAININGS ARE ACTUALLY INSTRUCTED AS WELL ON NEW APPROACHES TO LEARNING AND NEW WAYS TO PRESENT CONTENT. YES. THAT'S, UH, EXCELLENT. UH, EXCELLENT POINT. SO, UH, CHIEF BUCHANAN HAS INSTITUTED, UM, MORE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR LEADERS AT THE COMPANY OFFICER AND CHIEF OFFICER LEVEL. AND SO THAT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES LEADERSHIP, UH, MENTORING, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GET IN YOUR FIREFIGHTER TRAINING, RIGHT? IT'S MORE OF A, A HUMANISTIC BASED UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT? DIVERSITY AND EQUITY AND, AND THE PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR ORGANIZATION, HOW THEY LEARN WHAT NEEDS THEY, THEY HAVE SO THEY, THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL. AND, AND PART OF THAT IS HOLDING, HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL. HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO, UM, YEAH, CHIEF BUCHANAN SPEARHEADING THAT. UM, IT DEFINITELY IS, LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE IT'S WORKING AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER GET ENOUGH OF THAT TYPE OF TRAINING. UM, WE'RE A YOUNG DEPARTMENT. [00:35:01] OUR PEOPLE NEED IT. AND, AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. GREAT. GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? ALRIGHT, I THINK WE ARE READY TO CAST OUR VOTE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU. WE ALL JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU. CHIEF , WE LOVE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, . AND THEN ACTUALLY, JUST TO ADD A LITTLE FRONTED BIT, UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE EXAM DEVELOPMENT PHASE. ACTUALLY, WE'VE OPENED THE FIRE CAPTAIN, UM, RECRUITMENT ROUTE. IT OPENED LAST FRIDAY. UM, AND THERE ARE, UM, SOURCES A PUBLICATION LIST FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS OR CANDIDATES WHO ARE GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN APPLYING TO THIS. AND THERE ARE LEADERSHIP PUBLICATIONS ON THERE THAT THEY, UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO READ. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. MOTION CARRIES RIGHT. BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 12, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO CANCEL CARPENTER EXAMINATION. SO STEPHANIE IS STILL STANDING , WHICH MEANS THAT SHE WILL BE, UM, PREPARING THE, SHE'S PREPARED THE STAFF REPORT. AND WE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM JESSICA MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST FOR THE PARKS, RECREATION, AND MARINE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. HI AGAIN. UM, WE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023 FROM JESSICA MARTINEZ, [12. 23-51546 Recommendation to cancel Carpenter examination.        Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTS FOR THE PARKS RECREATION MARINE DEPARTMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS PRM, ADVISING THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT THAT THE PRM DEPARTMENT WA, UM, HAS REASSESSED THEIR CURRENT NEEDS. AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THEY NO LONGER REQUIRE THE CARPENTER RECRUITMENT. UH, WE HAVE SOME FACTS, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023, STAFF PRESENTED THE CARPENTER JOB BULLETIN TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. THE USER DEPARTMENTS FOR THIS CLASSIFICATION ARE THE HARBOR DEPARTMENT AND THE PRM, UM, DEPARTMENT. THE BULLETIN WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION AS AN OPEN COMPETITIVE CONTINUOUS EXAM, AND IT OPENED FOR APPLICATION FILING ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2023. THE FILING PERIOD CLOSED ON OCTOBER 27TH, 2023. WE HAD 52 CANDIDATES WHO APPLIED 35, DID NOT MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS DUE TO VARIOUS REASONS, WHICH INCLUDE NON MEETING QUALIFICATIONS, INSUFFICIENT APPLICATION, AND INSUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE. UH, WE INVITED 17 CANDIDATES TO THE WRITTEN EXAM, AND ALL 17 COMPLETED THE EXAM DURING THE TESTING WINDOW OF NOVEMBER 16TH AND NOVEMBER 17TH, 2023. EXAM SCORING IS CURRENTLY PENDING AND CANDIDATES HAVE NOT RECEIVED RESULTS YET. UM, ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023, CIVIL SERVICE STAFF RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM JESSICA MARTINEZ OF PRM INFORMING STAFF THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS WITHDRAWING ITS NEED FOR THE CARPENTER RECRUITMENT FOR THE MARINE OPERATIONS BUREAU BUREAU. THE MARINE OPERATIONS BUREAU IS CURRENTLY EVALUATING A POSSIBLE REORG OF THE POSITIONS, AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THE POSITION MAY BE FILLED WITH THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT CLASSIFICATION. IN RESPONSE, STAFF INQUIRED ABOUT POTENTIAL FUTURE VACANCIES WITHIN THE PRM DEPARTMENT AND THE HARBOR DEPARTMENT TO ASSESS THE NEED TO CONTINUE THE RECRUITMENT POSSIBLY FOR OTHER DIVISIONS. UM, BOTH DEPARTMENTS HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO AN ANTICIPATED VACANCIES WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION FORMALLY APPROVE THE CANCELLATION OF THE CARPENTRY EXAM INITIALLY APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023. CONSIDERING THE NEW CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE RECRUITMENT, IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO CANCEL THE EXAM PROCESS TO AVOID MISUSING STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES OR MISLEADING THE CANDIDATES REGARDING VACANCIES THAT NO LONGER EXIST. UPON APPROVAL OF THAT CANCELLATION, A FORMAL NOTIFICATION WILL BE SENT TO CANDIDATES. BUT GIVEN THAT, UM, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE NO PENDING VACANCIES, THE NEXT PROJECTED DATE FOR CARPENTER EXAM IS UNKNOWN. UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UM, DEPARTMENT STAFF IS NOT AVAILABLE TODAY, UH, BUT CHRISTINA AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER OF YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. VICE PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON NEXT TO YOUR, THIS DOESN'T SIT WELL FOR ME. WHEN A DEPARTMENT MAKES A REQUEST FOR US TO GO OUT TO DO A RECRUITMENT, AND WE GET PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO APPLY FOR A POSITION NOW, WE'RE GONNA SEND THEM A LETTER AND SAY, THANK YOU FOR WASTING ALL OF YOUR TIME. BUT THERE IS NO POSITION AND WE HAVE NO DATE GOING FORWARD WHEN ONE WILL EXIST. I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB IN ASSESSING WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE BEFORE EVERYONE PUTS IN AN EFFORT, AND ESPECIALLY BEFORE WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANNA STATE FOR THE RECORD, SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOESN'T APPEAL TO ME, AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PERSON ON THE OTHER END THAT THINKS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY'RE GONNA WORK FOR THIS GREAT CITY, AND NOW THEY'RE NOT. THANKS, COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE HAD, UM, A CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT INFORMING THEM OF THAT TOO. THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? YOU KNOW, I'M [00:40:01] PROBABLY MORE ALIGNED, UH, IN THAT THINKING OR VERY MUCH ALIGNED IN THAT THINKING WITH OUR VICE PRESIDENT. UM, SO THEY WILL NOT EVEN GET THEIR RESULTS, NOT KNOW HOW WELL THEY DID IF WE DO THIS. CORRECT, CORRECT. YEAH. THEY WOULD RECEIVE A NOTICE THAT THE, THE EXAMINATION HAS BEEN CANCELED. SO I UNDERSTAND THE NOT CREATING FALSE HOPE THAT CERTAINLY UNDER, UH, SOMETHING WE WANT TO AVOID. UM, BUT I DO THINK IF I PUT IN THE EFFORT TO COMPLETE AN EXAM, I WOULD NOT WANT TO AT LEAST KNOW WHETHER OR NOT I HAD DONE WELL. UM, SHOULD AN OPPORTUNITY ARISE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, FEEDBACK TO OUR A APPLICANTS. UM, NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THEN THAT TAKES IT TO THE NEXT STEP AND THERE WOULD BE PROTEST OF EXAMINATION PERHAPS, AND IT'S, THERE'S NO EXAMINATION MOVING FORWARD. UM, WE TOO STRUGGLED WITH THIS AND MORE SO FELT THAT WE DIDN'T WANNA CREATE THE FALSE HOPE TO CANDIDATES THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL MORE STEPS TO GO THROUGH. THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE. THERE'S STILL A PERFORMANCE EXAM THAT WAS REQUIRED AS WELL. AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT CANDIDATES TO SAY, OKAY, YOU PUT ME THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THE OTHER END. AND SO, UM, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DEFINITELY, AND, AND STEPHANIE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANY CANDIDATE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO HER ABOUT THAT PROCESS, AND SHE'LL DO A GREAT JOB AT THAT. I KNOW, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT, UM, IT'S BETTER TO BRING IT TO YOU AT THIS POINT, STOP IT. UM, SO THAT CANDIDATES DO NOT HAVE TO, UM, THINK THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE OTHER END AND GO THROUGH MORE STEPS BECAUSE WE, WE, WE DISCUSSED, WE JUST CONTINUE OUT AND CREATE THE LIST, AND THEN IT'S LIKE THAT GIVES THEM A FALSE SENSE OF HOPE. SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY HAVE HAD CONVER STRONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND I THINK, UM, THAT THE WORD WILL SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS JUST TO STOP IT AT THIS POINT. YEAH, I'LL CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT DO SO VERY RELUCTANTLY, SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE THEN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. RIGHT. ITEM 13, RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE CANDIDATE FROM GARDNER ONE AND TWO ELIGIBLE LIST. MICHAEL DURAN. YES. I'M WAITING FOR THE MOTIONS. THERE THEY GO. YES. UM, WE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM CHERYL BENDER, PERSONNEL AND TRAINING SUPERINTENDENT FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND MARINE DEPARTMENT REQUESTING THE COMMISSION. UH, WELL, I'LL LET STEPHANIE TALK TO YOU, TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT WHO RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE. [13. 23-51547 Recommendation to remove candidate from Gardener I-II eligible list – Michael Duran.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] IT'S ME AGAIN. UM, ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2023, CORRESPONDENCE WAS RECEIVED FROM CHERYL BENDER, PERSONNEL AND TRAINING SUPERINTENDENT OF THE PARKS, RECREATION, AND MARINE DEPARTMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS, UH, PRM REQUESTING COMMISSION APPROVAL TO REMOVE MICHAEL DURAN FROM GARDNER. UH, ONE TO TWO ELIGIBLE LIST STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 32, SUBSECTION E OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH STATE THAT THE COMMISSION MAY REMOVE THE NAME OF A PERSON OF ANY EL FROM ANY ELIGIBLE LIST IF THE PERSON WHOSE NAME IS ON THE ELIGIBLE LIST OR PRIOR PRIORITY LIST IS DISMISSED FOR DISCIPLINARY REASONS. SOME FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023, CIVIL SERVICE STAFF RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM CHERYL BENDER, UM, FROM THE PARKS RECREATION MIRANDA DEPARTMENT ADVISING CIVIL SERVICE STAFF THAT THE CAN, THAT A CANDIDATE ON THE GARDNER ELIGIBLE LIST HAD RECENTLY BEEN TERMINATED FOR DISCIPLINARY REASONS. THE EXAM RESULTS FOR GARDNER WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023, AND THE ELIGIBLE LIST WAS CREATED ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023, AND CANDIDATES RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF THE RESULTS ON THE SAME DAY. THE CORRESPONDING REQUISITIONS WERE ALSO CERTIFIED ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023. UM, CIVIL SERVICE STAFF RESPONDED TO PRM ON NOVEMBER 15TH, REQUESTING MORE INFORMATION AND, AND DOCUMENTATION REGARDING THEIR REQUEST TO REMOVE THE CANDIDATE FROM THE ELIGIBLE LIST. THE PRM DEPARTMENT PROVIDED JUSTIFICATION AND DOCUMENTATION FOR THE DISMISSAL ON NOVEMBER 28TH. ADDITIONALLY, CIVIL SERVICE STAFF HAS INQUIRED WITH HR TO CONFIRM THE DISCIPLINARY DISMISSAL. HR DEPARTMENT HAS CONFIRMED AND PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION, WHICH SUPPORTED P'S REQUEST ON NOVEMBER 15TH. UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS AN APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION 32, SUBSECTION E OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS. UPON [00:45:01] APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, STAFF WILL INACTIVATE MR. DURAN FROM THE GARDNER ELIGIBLE LIST. MR. DURAN, THE PARKS AND RECREATION MARINE DEPARTMENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT THIS ITEM'S ON TODAY'S AGENDA, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UM, HR AND US WHO ARE HERE FOR, UM, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS. SO I I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE. UM, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT REASONS FOR DISMISSAL. THERE ARE CERTAINLY, UH, THOSE WHO JUST DON'T FIT IN A POSITION. UNFORTUNATELY, WE SEE THAT A LOT IN MANAGEMENT AND SUPERVISION. SOMETIMES YOU JUST GET A PERSON WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A MANAGER OR SUPERVISOR, UM, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOOD EMPLOYEES, UM, AND THEY'RE STILL GOOD AT THEIR JOB. UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE CASES WHERE SOMEONE'S EITHER COMMITTED GROSS NEGLIGENCE OR, UM, JUST DONE SOMETHING TOTALLY OUT OF BOUNDS AND, AND SHOULDN'T WORK FOR US. AGAIN, DO WE ATTEMPT TO PARSE THE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE'RE EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER CATEGORY OF EMPLOYMENT? DO WE GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PERSON TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT IF THEY DO HAVE AN APPEAL, THEY DO THINK THEY WOULD BE A GOOD FIT HERE, BUT THEY WEREN'T THERE, THEY COULD APPEAL THAT TO US. ABSOLUTELY. ALL THAT IS COMMUNICATED. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE, THIS REQUEST HERE, WE'RE REQUESTING FOR A DISCIPLINARY DISMISSAL. SO THERE IS BACKGROUND WORK TO ENSURE IT'S DISCIPLINARY. IT'S NOT JUST THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOTIFIED THAT IT'S DISCIPLINARY. WE CONFIRM WITH, EXCUSE ME, WE CONFIRM WITH HR TO, TO CONFIRM THAT, UM, TO ENSURE THAT IT IS A TRUE DISCIPLINARY DISMISSAL. UM, THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOTIFIED AND THEN THIS REQUEST HERE IS ONLY REQUESTING TO REMOVE HIM FROM THIS ELIGIBLE LIST. SO IF HE WAS TO APPLY, BE SUCCESSFUL AND LAND ON ANOTHER LIST, THEN HE WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE WOULD SEE THAT THROUGH. UM, THIS REQUEST IS ONLY FOR THE GARDNER ELIGIBLE LIST TODAY. COMMISSIONERS. THERE'S, UH, THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON CHERYL BENDER'S, UH, LETTER GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS TO THE DISCIPLINARY PORTION OF IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. I I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE MEMO THAT STATES THAT IS APPLICATION OR IT IS NO LONGER FACTUAL. UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT THE THIRD PARAGRAPH THAT, UH, THE APPLICATION IS NO LONGER FACTUAL. AND I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE QUESTION? COMMISSIONER? I I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S A STATEMENT. IT SAYS, UM, THE RELEVANT INFORMATION IS NO LONGER FACTUAL. SO THE APPLICATION THAT THE PERSON PUT IN NO LONGER CONTAINS FACTUAL INFORMATION. AND SO I, I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS, IS THAT, AM I READING THAT RIGHT? IS THAT AT THE END WHERE IT SAYS, WHERE ARE YOU READING? IT SAYS, MR. DURAN IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REHIRE AT PRM. ADDITIONALLY, ANY APPLICATION HE CURRENTLY HAS ON FILE FOR THIS OR ANY OTHER ELIGIBLE LIST NOW CONTAINS RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT IS NO LONGER FACTUAL. THE THE PART. UM, SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SURE. I THINK WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, HIS GARNER APPLICATION WOULD, UM, OR ANY APPLICATION IS GOING TO ASK, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN DISMISSED FROM CITY SERVICE? SO THAT APPLICATION WOULD HAVE SAID NO, AND THAT'S WHY YOU CAN MOVE THROUGH. WHEN WE CATCH A DISMISSAL, THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW THAT'S A TRIGGER FOR US TO LOOK INTO IT. UM, IT, IT, IT'S A VARIETY OF, UM, OF OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE. WE MIGHT CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE IN THE SYSTEM WHO PROCESSED THE DISMISSAL. WE MIGHT PRO, UM, CONTACT HR TO CONFIRM ANYTHING OR WE MIGHT CONTACT ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL. IT JUST DEPENDS ON KIND OF WHAT THE RESEARCH SHOWS. RIGHT. I I GET THAT. MY, MY QUESTION THOUGH IS BECAUSE OF THAT, SO THE APPLICANT PUT IN AN APPLICATION, THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET, IS THE TRAIL THE APPLICANT PUT IN AN APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT HAD BEEN DISMISSED FROM THE CITY FROM A PREVIOUS POSITION, HOWEVER THE APPLICANT STATED THEY HAD NOT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO HONE IN ON. OH, DID THE APPLICANT GIVE YOU MISINFORMATION OR WAS IT THAT THE APPLICANT HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION AND WAS TERMINATED DURING THAT PROCESS, WHICH THEN MADE THEIR APPLICATION SECOND NOT FACTUAL? THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING FOR. GOT IT. IT'S THE LATTER. SO HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, HAD NOT BEEN DISMISSED AND THEN WAS DISMISSED AS WE CREATED. I THINK IT WAS THE SAME DAY THAT WE, THE ELIGIBLE LIST WAS ESTABLISHED, BUT HE WAS ALREADY SUCCESSFUL. HE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UM, FALSE STATEMENTS AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION FOR GARDNER AT THAT TIME. AND I THINK THAT'S [00:50:01] IT. THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TO FIND OUT IF THE APPLICANT HAD GIVEN US MISINFORMATION FROM THE START. BUT THEY DIDN'T. NO, THEY DIDN'T. THEY HAD ALREADY APPLIED FOR ANOTHER POSITION. THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS WHEN SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY LIE ON THEIR APPLICATION TO US. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. CORRECT. THEY DID NOT MAKE ANY MISINFORMATION ON THE GARNER APPLICATION. I THINK THE INTENTION OF CHERYL ON THAT MEMO WAS JUST TO SAY THAT POTENTIALLY NOW WE WOULD SEE DISMISSALS IN HIS APPLICATION. CORRECT. MOVING FORWARD. CORRECT. AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS ISSUE WITH HAVING TO TAKE SOMEONE OFF THE LIST BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION POTENTIALLY. YES. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. MM-HMM, . OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT WE HAD A MOTION SECOND, BUT I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING, WAITING ON MY SCREEN NOW. IN THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER GARCA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OZUNA. UH, WE CAN OPEN THE VOTE IF YOU'RE READY TO VOTE. YES. YES. ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE? OKAY. NO. YES, I'M STILL GETTING WAITING, BUT THAT'S FINE. I WAS ABLE TO CATCH MY VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS STEPHANIE. I HAVE A, A QUESTION. GARY, IS THIS APPROPRIATE, UM, TO ASK A QUESTION RELATED TO, BUT NOT DIRECTLY TO THE ITEM THAT WE JUST, UH, APPROVED? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THE ITEM. IF IT'S RELATED TO THE MOVE, IT'S, IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE ITEM. YEAH. UH, BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON AN ITEM, IT HAS TO BE AGENDIZED. OKAY. CAN I BRING IT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS? POTENTIALLY . OKAY. THANK YOU. . YEAH, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANYMORE, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. SO, UH, YEAH, UH, 14, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE REPORTS FROM CIVIL SERVICE MANAGERS AND WE AND MARIA ALAMO IS, WE'LL SPEAK FIRST. ALRIGHT. AND I'M STILL JUST SEEING WAITINGS, BUT, UH, THERE WE GO. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. AND GOOD MORNING EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE. I HAVE A QUICK TWO UPDATES. UH, THE, THE FIRST ONE IS A BITTERSWEET. [14. 23-51549 Recommendation to receive and file reports from Civil Service Managers.        Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] I WANNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE REGARDING ADMIN SUPPORT SERVICES STAFF. UH, WE DO HAVE ISELA GONZALEZ WORKING, UH, WITH US. SHE TRANSFERRED FROM RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION DIVISION BACK IN EARLY MAY THIS YEAR. AND I WANNA QUICKLY ANNOUNCE THAT SHE'S PROMOTING TO BE AN ADMIN AIDE TOO, AND WILL BE TRANSFERRING TO EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DIVISION. UH, SO IT IS A BITTERSWEET, UH, SHE'S AN AMAZING EMPLOYEE. SHE DEFINITELY SET THE BAR REAL HIGH IN OUR SECTION AND WE WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE HER GROW. WE WE'RE SAD TO SEE HER GO, BUT HAPPY THAT SHE'S GROWING AND WE THINK THAT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES DIVISION'S GONNA BE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HER. SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S MY FIRST UPDATE. THE SECOND UPDATE, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE CLOSED THE FISCAL YEAR 2023. WE CLOSED IT ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. IT DOES KEEP A COUPLE MONTHS, UM, WHERE WE CONTINUE TO PAY THE INVOICES. AND THEN WE OFFICIALLY CLOSE THE FISCAL YEAR, 2023 LAST FRIDAY. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, ROBERT AND I RAN A COUPLE REPORTS AND WE'RE PREPARING A PRESENTATION FOR THE COMMISSION AND FOR THE AUDIENCE. AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION READY FOR YOU THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY. AND LOOKING AT OUR FISCAL YEAR 2023, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CLOSE THE YEAR, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT OR BUDGET PRIOR TO COVID, UM, BECAUSE COVID DID CHANGE THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS, WE ARE ANALYZING FISCAL YEAR 2019, AND THEN WE'RE HOPING TO ANALYZE IT UP TO 2023 SO THAT YOU CAN GRADUALLY SEE SOME OF THE CHANGES ON OUR BUDGET. UM, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THAT TO YOU. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ON THE FACE OF ANALYZING IT, WE ARE RESEARCHING IT, AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING YOU SOME, UM, REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. SO WE'RE HOPING WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AND THAT IS IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. [00:55:01] AND GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE PROMOTING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AS LONG AS WE GET TO KEEP 'EM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW IT'S BITTERSWEET FOR YOU, BUT AS LONG AS EXACTLY YOU GET TO KEEP THEM IN THE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE VERY HAPPY FOR THEM. UM, OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER UNA FOR SPEARHEADING OUR EVENT LAST WEEK. UM, EVERYBODY GOT WORKING AND BY, I'D SAY 30 MINUTES AFTER THIS MEETING, AFTER THE MEETING ENDED, STAFF WAS DOWN IN THE PLAZA AND HAD A REALLY GOOD, UH, TIME DISCUSSING WITH CANDIDATES. SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR LIGHTING THE FIRE AND TELLING US ABOUT THAT INVITE. AND THE EXPLANATION WAS THAT IT WAS AN LA COUNTY PROBATION THING, BUT NOW WE'RE CONNECTED WITH LA COUNTY PROBATION TOO, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING FOR THE YEAR, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION FOR ALL OF YOUR GOOD WORK THIS, THIS PAST YEAR. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT, UM, AND WE'RE EXCITED AND LOOK FORWARD TO 24. THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE STAFF, ALL THESE STAFF REPORTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU. YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO EACH ONE OF THESE. WE DEFINITELY ARE NOT GONNA BRING SOMETHING TO YOU THAT WE DON'T HAVE, HAVEN'T DONE PLENTY OF RESEARCH ON THE BACKGROUND OF THE INFORMATION. SO I HOPE THAT YOU SEE THAT. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS. UM, AS, AS I THINK I'VE SHARED WITH OTHER COMMISSIONERS, MAYBE THE NEW COMMISSIONERS DON'T KNOW, BUT ON THURSDAY STAFF MEETINGS, WE HAVE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE COMMISSION MEETING. AND THAT'S OUR FIRST ITEM, IS THAT WE, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THE COMMISSION? UM, AND SO WE LEARN, UM, WE, WE LOOK AT EVERY COMMISSION MEETING AND SAY, ARE, IS THERE MORE INFORMATION WE COULD HAVE HAD? WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE ASKED? SO WE USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET BETTER AT WHAT WE DO. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. WE DO APPRECIATE 'EM. UM, WE HAVE A BUSY JANUARY COMING UP. UM, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING EVERY WEDNESDAY IN JANUARY. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP THAT JANUARY 3RD WILL BE OUR FIRST COMMISSION MEETING OF THE YEAR, JANUARY 10TH, UM, IS NOT A COMMISSION MEETING, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE A PLANNING MEETING, WHICH WE TYPICALLY DO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AS THE 17TH. WE HAVE A COMMISSION MEETING. AND THEN STAFF HAS OUR FIRST SESSION WITH BAKER TILLY, UH, THE CONSULTANTS. UM, SO WE WILL BE DOING PROCESS MAPPING ON THAT THAT AFTERNOON. UH, THE 24TH WILL FINALLY BE YOUR DAY ONE, NO COMMISSION MEETING, BUT DAY ONE OF A ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING. AND THEN ON THE 31ST, UM, YOU WILL HAVE A BUSINESS MEETING AND IT WILL BE DAY TWO OF THAT HEARING. SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. I HOPE YOU REST UP. NO MORE MEETINGS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE A BUSY JANUARY AND, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO ALWAYS SEEING YOU. SO IT'S GOOD FOR US, AND, UM, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AFTER THIS MEETING AS WELL. SO THANK YOU ALL. I CAN'T THINK OF THE LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY HAD FIVE MEETINGS IN A MONTH. YES, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FURTHER? IKA? I'M, I'M JUST WAITING TO POUNCE ON THE MICROPHONE. , YES, LESLIE VOTE, BUT TO, TO THE NEWEST COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER SUNA. I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'VE EXPERIENCED, UH, THE SCHEDULE THAT CHRISTINA JUST MENTIONED, BUT THAT'S HOW WE ROLL HERE. . IT'S BEEN AN EASY ENTREE, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. WE ACTUALLY HAD LIKE A PRETTY QUIET END OF THE YEAR, RELATIVELY SPEAKING. SO WE WANNA HOOK YOU BEFORE YOU RUN . ALL RIGHT. UH, TAKE IT. WE WILL THEN VOTE TO, UH, RECEIVE AND FILE THESE REPORTS. THIS IS A GOOD COMMISSION. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ANNOUNCEMENTS. AND I THINK THERE MAY BE ONE RIGHT OVER MY SHOULDER, MAYBE . UH, WELL, FIRST I WANT TO REALLY GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE CIVIL SERVICE, UH, TEAM FOR POUNCING ON THE OPPORTUNITY LAST WEEK. THAT WAS PRETTY FANTASTIC, UM, HOW THE TEAM GOT TO WORK AND WE DIDN'T GET AN INVITATION, BUT WE'RE LIKE, EXCUSE ME, , WE'RE ELBOWING PEOPLE TO MAKE ROOM, TO, TO ENSURE THAT, UH, OUR RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE, [ANNOUNCEMENTS] ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. SO, BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. ALSO, UM, GARY, CUT THE MICROPHONE. , IF THIS IS NOT, UH, A TIME FOR THIS, UH, BUT IN, IN REGARDS TO EMPLOYEE INFORMATION, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE, [01:00:01] AND I'M ALSO VERY COGNIZANT OF PROTECTING PEOPLE WITH SENSITIVE INFORMATION. UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE SOME REDACTION ON SOME ITEMS, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO PROTECT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS THAT ARE UNFLATTERING, LIKE DISMISSALS AND STUFF, UM, WHERE WE CAN STILL APPROVE OR MAYBE THE COMMISSION GETS INFORMATION, BUT THE PUBLIC IS UNABLE TO SEE THAT. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IT WOULD BE EITHER TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION ON SOME ITEMS, IF THERE'S A CLOSED SESSION, UM, OPTION AVAILABLE. THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO, UM, CHRISTINA CAN GIVE A BRIEFING TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY. YOU JUST CAN'T DISCUSS IT BEFORE THE MEETING. OTHERWISE, THERE'D BE LIKE A QUORUM ISSUE IF YOU WERE TO DISCUSS THE ITEM BEFORE WE CAME TO MEET AS A BODY. LUCKILY WE DON'T HAVE MANY. UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M VERY COGNIZANT OF, OF PEOPLE'S INFORMATION, WHAT'S OUT THERE, WHAT LIVES ON THE INTERNET, UM, BUT THAT'S ALL MY MICROPHONE STAYED ON, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, GARY. ANYTIME. AND, UM, AS OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, I WANNA SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY KWANZA, UM, AND HAPPY HANUKKAH AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE ALL CELEBRATE. UM, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS WHOLE YEAR WITH THE TEAM AND WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS, AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE ANOTHER YEAR IN JANUARY WITH A NICE PACKED SCHEDULE. RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? UM, I'LL JUST FOR THE RECORD, SAY I WOULDN'T HAVE MINDED DOING 13 IN THE CLOSED SESSION AT LEAST, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THE DECISION. UM, AS FAR AS ANNOUNCEMENTS, I'LL JUST ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER SAID. UM, A FESTIVAL HOLIDAY SEASON FOR EVERYBODY, HOPEFULLY SOME TIME AWAY THAT, UH, IS FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES AND NOT NECESSARILY FOR WORK. UM, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK RESTED AND, UH, GOOD TO GO IN JANUARY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYONE WHO SET OUT THE ENTIRE MEETING FOR US. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, YEAH. OH, YOU, YOU'RE, I'M, YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? YES. WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE ONE THAT WAS RELATED TO AN AGENDA, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. OKAY. HI. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. UM, SO MY NAME IS ALOLA DENNY. I THINK MY SITUATION WAS [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Civil Service Commission on non-agenda items. ] ON THE AGENDA EARLIER, BUT I DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT 'CAUSE AT THE TIME I ARRIVED, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, UM, FOR THE, UH, SUCCESSFUL VOTING IN THE PROCESS. UM, AND TO SAY THAT I DO LOVE THE CITY. I SERVED FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS BEFORE IMMIGRATION DID WHATEVER THEY DID. UM, AND I WANTED TO ADD THAT I DID NOT WILLINGLY LEAVE. IT WAS A SITUATION THAT WAS OUT OF MY HANDS AND I WANTED TO PLEAD. 'CAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS. I REALLY DO NOT KNOW HOW THE REINSTATEMENT WORKS, BUT, UM, I, I KNOW I PASSED MY PROBATION AT THE TIME, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT I WOULD HAVE TO SERVE ANOTHER ONE AGAIN SINCE I'M BEING REINSTATED. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE THE BENEFITS THAT MY POSITION AFFORDED ME BEFORE THIS WHOLE THING HAPPENED, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT LIKE MY COMPENSATION RATE, MY SENIORITY AND ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF THAT CAME WITH MY POSITION BECAUSE I, I, I DID NOT LEAVE BECAUSE I WANTED TO. I DIDN'T RESIGN. I DIDN'T QUIT. UM, AN OFFICER HAD MADE A MISTAKE ON MY APPLICATION THAT WAS STILL PENDING AND MOVED BEFORE IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE LINE TO BE MOVED. AND THAT'S WHY IT AFFECTED MY ABILITY TO KEEP WORKING, EVEN IF MY WORK PERMIT WAS STILL, UM, VALID. UM, BUT I'M GLAD TO BE BACK 'CAUSE I DIDN'T APPLY ANYWHERE ELSE 'CAUSE I WANTED TO COME BACK TO LONG BEACH. UM, BUT I'M JUST ASKING TO KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE THINGS THAT I HAVE HAD BEFORE I LEFT. AND I MEAN, I LOST THE TIME. I'VE LOST MY, UM, I MISS MY COWORKERS . I LOST ALL THE, THE, UM, THE SHIFTS AND EVERYTHING, THE EXCITEMENT THAT CAME WITH THE JOB. SO JUST AGAIN, WANTING TO JUST SEEK THAT, UM, SUPPORT WITH MAINTAINING THE, UM, BENEFITS THAT CAME WITH MY POSITION BEFORE, [01:05:01] UM, EVERYTHING WAS APPENDANT, UM, ABRUPTLY. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND I ACTUALLY DID HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE. UM, CHRISTINA, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO FOLLOW UP AND SEE, UM, WHAT COULD BE RESTORED. I KNOW THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN AND CAN'T DO UNDER OUR ROLES, SO CORRECT. WE WILL FOLLOW UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM, . THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK. YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M SEEING NONE AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER, UH, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE CUT. YEAH, I FORGOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE. UH, CHRISTINA AND GARY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU THIS, THIS YEAR. I KNOW WE, WE USUALLY FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE DEPARTMENT CANNOT BE COMPLETE WITHOUT OUR FEARLESS LEADER, CHRISTINA. AND, UH, THE GUY THAT WE, THAT WE LOVE TO HAVE AROUND FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. SCARY. THANK YOU. . MOSTLY 'CAUSE HE KEEPS US OUT OF JAIL. UH, . I THINK THAT WAS FOR AFTER THE MEETING. THE MIC'S OFF , RIGHT? WITH THAT AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 10:14 AM THANK YOU EVERYONE. HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.