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WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM, SO WE'RE JUST GETTING EVERYONE LOGGED IN.
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STAFF, ARE YOU READY, MADAM CLERK, ARE YOU READY? GIMME JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.[00:11:04]
UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR[CALL TO ORDER]
YOUR PATIENCE THIS EVENING.I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR PLANNING MEETING FOR, UH, DECEMBER 21ST TO ORDER.
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CALL, PLEASE.COMMISSIONER WHERE? VICE CHAIR.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS EVENING? AGAIN? DID YOU DO IT LAST TIME? 'CAUSE YOU WERE NEW.IT'S LAST TIME WAS ONLY KINDA A PRACTICE RUN.
THAT'S NOW TIME FOR SWEARING IN OF THE WITNESSES.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY THIS EVENING, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU SHALL GIVE IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SHALL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
WE HAVE OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM THIS
[1. 23-51601 Recommendation to receive and file Director’s Report. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
EVENING AS A DIRECTOR'S REPORT.DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT ITEM? I MAKE THAT MOTION.
I'VE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND.
WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE LAST MEETING OF 2023 OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS YEAR.
I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE, UM, THE WORK AND THE ROLE OF THIS COMMISSION IN HELPING THE CITY TO ENTITLE OVER 1800 HOUSING UNITS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS A HUGE INCREASE, UM, FROM LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO ENTITLED OVER 800 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
UH, FOR COMPARISON IN 2022, WE ENTITLED ABOUT 200, SO A VERY EXCITING YEAR.
WE'LL HAVE MORE FORMAL NUMBERS, UH, SHARED, UM, AT THE STATE OF THE CITY AND IN THE NEW YEAR.
THERE'S STILL A FEW DAYS LEFT IN THE YEAR, UM, BUT AS WE'RE FINALIZING THOSE NUMBERS, JUST, UH, VERY EXCITING TO SEE THE PROGRESS.
THERE'S MUCH MORE WORK TO DO OF COURSE, BUT, UH, WE'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, YOUR ROLE IN THAT.
I ALSO WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UM, AT LONG LAST THERE'LL BE SOME WORK HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS RELATED TO SOME OF THE AUDIO ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND SO OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WILL NOT TAKE PLACE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
UM, THEY WILL ALMOST DEFINITELY BE TAKING PLACE AT LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE AT THEIR, UM, UM, UH, LAC CAMPUS WHEN WE'LL GET THOSE FINAL DETAILS TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC.
AS SOON AS THOSE ARE FINAL, THE JANUARY 4TH MEETING OF PLANNING COMMISSION IS CANCELED.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING TOGETHER WILL BE ON JANUARY 18TH.
WE DO HAVE A STUDY SESSION ON JANUARY 18TH FOR, UH, THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND SSB NINE, UM, ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
THAT WAS POSTPONED, YOU'LL RECALL, UH, BACK IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE, UM, CYBERSECURITY INCIDENT.
AND SO THAT WILL BE, UH, COMING FORWARD IN JANUARY.
WE'LL ALSO BRING, BE BRINGING A COUPLE OF OTHER POLICY RELATED STUDY SESSIONS TO YOU IN THE FIRST COUPLE MONTHS OF THE NEW YEAR.
UM, AND WITH THAT, UH, MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT IS CONCLUDED.
COMMISSIONERS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? I, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE THANK YOU, BUT
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I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND STAFF FOR ALL OF THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THESE ZONING UPDATES.IT'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AND HAS DEFINITELY RESULTED IN, IN THE UPTICK THAT WE'RE SEEING IN DEVELOPMENT.
CLEAR, CLEARER RULES AND MORE DEFINED GOALS HAVE, HAVE DEFINITELY HELPED.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR THAT.
UH, IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, VIRTUAL CALLERS THIS EVENING? IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK BEHIND THE RAIL IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, IF WE COULD HAVE A VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
[2. 23-51602 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Planning Commission meeting on Thursday, November 16, 2023. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
UP IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 16TH.MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? SO MOVE, MAKE THAT MOTION.
I'VE GOT HER FIRST AND SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON, TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE WE HAD A SECOND SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER CASTILLO CLEMMENS, I BELIEVE CLEMS. I DID DO THAT.
WE'VE GOT COMPETING SYSTEMS, HIS WORK.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES AS THEY'VE BEEN SUBMITTED? ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON OUR MINUTES FROM OUR NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING? DO WE HAVE ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS? IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK BEHIND THE RAIL COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED? IF NOT, MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE THE VOTE PLEASE? MOTION CARRIES.
[3. 23-51616 Recommendation to determine that the project is consistent with and within the scope of the project previously analyzed as part of the Southeast Area Specific Plan Program Environmental Impact Report (State Clearinghouse No. 2015101075) (PECC 04-23) and subject to the Southeast Area Specific Plan Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting Program and that no further environmental review is required pursuant to California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) Guidelines Sections 15168, 15162, and 15183; and Approve Site Plan Review SPR22-109 and Local Coastal Development Permit LCDP22-062, and adopt the proposed findings and conditions of approval related thereto, for a mixed-use project within the Coastal Zone consisting of two, 5-story buildings with a total of 559,599 square feet containing 600 residential units and 4,000 square-feet of ground-level restaurant space with 1,156 parking spaces located at 6500 E. Pacific Coast Highway in the Mixed-Use Community Core (MU-CC) designation of Southeast Area Specific Plan (SEASP). (District 3) Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
READY FOR OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING.ITEM THREE IS RECOMMENDATION TO DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT PREVIOUSLY ANALYZED AS PART OF THE SOUTHEAST AREA PACIFIC PLAN PROGRAM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AND SUBJECT TO THE SOUTHEAST AREA SPECIFIC PLAN MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM.
AND THAT NO FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS REQUIRED PURSUANT TO THE CA TO CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT GUIDELINES, SECTIONS 1 5 1 6 8 1 5 1 6 2, AND 1 5 1 8, 3 AND APPROVED SITE PLAN REVIEW, SPR 22 DASH 1 0 9 AND LOCAL COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT LCDP 22 DASH 0 6 2 AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED THERE TO, FOR A MIXED USE PROJECT WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE CONSISTING OF TWO FIVE STORY BUILDINGS WITHIN A TOTAL OF 559,559 SQUARE FEET CONTAINING 600 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND LEVEL RE RESTAURANT SPACE WITH 1,156 PARKING SPACES LOCATED AT 6,500 EAST PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY IN THE MIXED USE COMMUNITY CORE DESIGNATION OF SOUTHEAST AREA SPECIFIC PLAN DISTRICT THREE.
AND I, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I BELIEVE IT'S 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND LEVEL RESTAURANT SPACE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR THIS ITEM.
UM, SO SORRY, BEFORE WE CAN BEGIN, CAN I JUST, IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE ITEM? WE'RE STILL WAITING.
I BELIEVE THE PRESENTATION'S UP CLERK'S TABLE.
CAN YOU LET ME KNOW WHO THE MOTION AND SECOND ARE? WELL, I, I'LL GET IT.
I'LL GET IT TO YOU JUST AS SOON AS WE GET 'EM.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT A FIRST FROM, OR WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLEMSON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TEMPLE.
AND WITH THAT, IF WE'VE GOT A STAFF REPORT.
UM, SO SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY FEEL YOU'RE HAVING, UH, DEJA VU AS WE DID SEE A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT AT THIS, UH, SAME SITE BACK IN JULY.
UM, HOWEVER, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED A 600, A PROPOSED 600 UNIT MIXED USE, UM, PROJECT AT THE SITE, UM, IN SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION, UM, STAFF THERE HAS OPINED THAT THIS PROJECT IS
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APPEALABLE, UH, DESPITE IT, UH, NOT BEING LISTED AS SUCH, UM, IN OUR DOCUMENTS.AND SO, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO, UM, AN OPINION THAT AN ONSITE BIOSWALE COULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE A COASTAL, UM, UH, WETLAND RESOURCE, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, ELECTED TO REDESIGN THE PROJECT TO PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM EXTENT, UH, BUFFER FEASIBLE, UM, FROM THAT ONSITE BIOSWALE WHILE STILL PROVIDING THE SAME NUMBER OF, UH, HOUSING UNITS PURSUANT TO LOCAL AND STATE HOUSING LAW.
SO WHAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A PROPOSAL FOR A REVISED, UH, DESIGN TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT IT IS, UM, STILL APPROPRIATE AND WITHIN THE CSIP STANDARD, UH, AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT OVER TO QUENTIN, WHO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH, UH, THE BOOK DESIGN PROPOSAL AND WHAT HAS CHANGED, UH, SINCE JULY.
THANK YOU ALLISON, AND GOOD EVENING TO THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST TO DEVELOP A NEW MIXED USE PROJECT ON THE EXISTING MARINA SHORES SITE WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST AREA SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE, UH, PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT 6,500 EAST PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY ON AN APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRE PARCEL OF LAND.
UH, IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER OF APPROXIMATELY 68,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA AND WITH 352 SURFACE PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE, UH, MIXED USE COMMUNITY COURSE SUB AREA OF SP TWO, ALSO KNOWN AS, UH, CIP SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDE THE SECOND AND PCH PROJECT AND MARKETPLACE LONG BEACH TO THE NORTH SURFACE PARKING AND OFFICES TO THE SOUTH, MORE OF THE MARKETPLACE AND THE PUMPKIN PATCH SITE TO THE EAST AND MORE SURFACE PARKING IN ALAMEDOS BAY TO THE WEST.
HERE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STREET VIEW IMAGES OF THE, UH, PROJECT SITE FROM THE VANTAGE POINT OF PCH THAT SHOW THE EXISTING BIO SWELL, WHICH IS, UH, THE, THE CRITICAL FACTOR THAT LEADS TO THE, UH, SLIGHT REDESIGN OF THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THE PROJECT PROPOSAL INCLUDES A REQUEST TO COMPLETELY DEMOLISH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCT THE NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT MADE UP ALMOST ENTIRELY OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UH, THE PROJECT WILL CONSIST OF TWO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, UH, BOTH FIVE STORIES ABOVE GRADE WITH THE TOTAL OF 600 DWELLING UNITS AND ALSO, UH, WITH 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND LEVEL RESTAURANT SPACE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING SECOND AND PCH COMMERCIAL CENTER.
IN TOTAL, THE PROJECT WILL HAVE 1,156 PARKING SPACES, UH, THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED ON THE, UH, FIRST TWO LEVELS OF BOTH BUILDINGS.
UH, AS ALLISON STATED EARLIER, THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 20TH, 2023.
UH, HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS CONCERNS RAISED BY THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION RELATING TO WETLAND PROXIMITY, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, PROACTIVELY REDESIGNED THE PROJECT TO PROVIDE AN INCREASED BUFFER FROM THE EXISTING ON ONSITE BIO SWELL.
UH, AS FAR AS THE PROJECT HAS BEEN, UH, HOW THE PROJECT HAS BEEN RECONFIGURED FROM THE, UH, FIRST ITERATION, UH, HERE YOU CAN SEE A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE, UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT AND THE, UH, THE NEW PROPOSAL.
UH, THE IMAGES TO THE LEFT REPRESENTS THE, UH, PREVIOUS PROPOSAL THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE BUFFER OF 10 FEET FROM THE BIO SWELL TO BUILDING FRONTAGE AT GROUND LEVEL AND A, UH, A ZERO FOOT BUFFER ON THE UPPER LEVELS.
THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT REPRESENTS THE MODIFIED PROPOSAL IN WHICH THERE WOULD BE A, A BUFFER OF 25 FEET FROM BIO SWELL TO BUILDING FRONTAGE ON ALL LEVELS.
THIS, UH, SLIDE HERE SHOWS A BEFORE AND AFTER DESIGN COMPARISON, UH, ON THE ELEVATION THAT FACES PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS A BEFORE AND AFTER DESIGN COMPARISON OF THE ELEVATION THAT FACES STUDEBAKER ROAD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES HERE FROM THE, UH, VANTAGE POINT OF THE INTERSECTION OF PCH AND UH, STUDEBAKER ROAD, MAINLY THE REPURPOSING OF THE CORNER GATEWAY ELEMENT AS, UH, WELL AS THE EXPANDED BUFFER IN BETWEEN BOTH BUILDINGS.
UH, AND SO IN ORDER TO, UH, COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF UNITS ADJACENT TO THE BIO SWELL AREA, DUE TO THE INCREASED BUFFER, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, UTILIZED A A DIFFERENT APPROACH WITH THE, UH, CORNER GATEWAY, UH, FILLING IN OPEN SPACE FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, ITERATION.
UH, WHEREAS THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL FEATURED, UH, AN OPEN, UH, CORNER WITH A GROUND LEVEL ART SCULPTURE, UH, ALSO WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AND LANDSCAPING.
THE MODIFIED PROPOSAL TAKES THE APPROACH OF, OF A DISTINCT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT THAT MIMICS A A CORNER TOWER, CORNER TOWER WITH, UH, FACADE MOUNTED ART SCULPTURES THAT FACE PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
CSIP DOES ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THE DESIGN OPTIONS FOR THE CORNER GATEWAY ELEMENT, AND THESE OPTIONS INCLUDE, UH, TOWERS THAT ARE DISTINCT FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING CORNER, PLAZAS OR GATHERING SPACES, LOBBY CANOPIES, PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS, LANDSCAPE INSTALLATIONS, OR
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PROMINENT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.UH, THE SITE PLAN REVIEW COMMITTEE DID REVIEW THE MODIFIED CORNER GATEWAY, UH, ELEMENT AND DETERMINED THAT IT MET THE CRITERIA OF, UH, A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT DESIGN OPTIONS ALLOWED BY CIP, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC ART, THE PROMINENT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT AND CHARACTERISTICS OF A CORNER TOWER.
AND WITH THE INCLUSION OF A 25 FOOT BUFFER FROM BIO SWELL TO BUILDING FRONTAGE, THE MODIFIED DESIGN AGAIN PRO PROACTIVELY ADDRESSES COASTAL COMMISSION CONCERNS REGARDING THE TWO.
UH, AND FROM, UH, A SITE CONFIGURATION STANDPOINT, UH, THE INCREASED BUFFER CREATES A SORT OF A, A GATEWAY OR, OR PLAZA, IF YOU WILL, UH, LEADING INTO THE MID-BLOCK, PEDESTRIAN POEO THAT, UH, BISECTS THE PROJECT SITE.
AND SO AGAIN, THE OPEN AREA THAT, UH, IS LOST AT THE CORNER GATEWAY, UH, IS REINTRODUCED IN THE AREA SURROUNDING THE BIO SWELL.
UM, AS FOR THE, THE BIO SWELL ITSELF, THE WRITTEN STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKAGE GIVE A, A MUCH MORE THOROUGH DESCRIPTION OF ITS CON EXISTING CONDITION AND COASTAL COMMISSION DETERMINATIONS, UH, RELATING TO ITS, UH, CONSIDERATION AS A WETLAND.
UH, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, THE CURRENT FUNCTION OF THE BIO SWELL IS MORE AKIN TO, UH, THAT OF A STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM, UH, MORE SO THAN A A NATURAL WETLAND.
AND SO, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN PROACTIVE IN THEIR APPROACH TO NOT ONLY, UH, MAINTAINING THE EXISTING BIO SWELL, BUT ALSO TO ENHANCING IT.
THE BIO SWELL WILL BE IMPACTED WITH SEVERAL BENEFITS RESULTING FROM THE REDESIGN PROJECTS, UH, MOST OF WHICH HAVE BEEN VOLUNTARILY BROUGHT FORTH BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, ONE OF THOSE BENEFITS IS THE INCREASED BUFFERING FROM BIO SWELL TO PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, UH, AND THIS WILL, UH, BE MADE POSSIBLE WITH THE INSTALLATION OF NEW LANDSCAPE PARKWAYS SIDEWALKS AND, UH, AND A BIKE LANE.
UH, A SECOND BENEFIT WITH THE REDESIGN IS THE INCREASED BUFFERING FROM BIO SWELL TO BUILDING FACADE, UH, AGAIN, ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ALREADY APPROVED.
ANOTHER BENEFIT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW MANAGEMENT PLAN INVOLVING CONTINUED MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES SUCH AS TRASH AND DEAD PLANT REMOVAL.
ALSO, THE REMOVAL OF INVASIVE OR NON-NATIVE, UH, PLANT SPECIES AND THE USE OF AQUATIC APPROVED HERBICIDES.
OTHER BENEFITS INCLUDE PROPER IRRIGATION AND THE ELIMINATION OF TOXIC URBAN RUNOFF, WHICH HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE GROWTH OF SOME OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES ON THE BIO SWELL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, AND IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO FUND THE CREATION OF A 0.2 ACRE, UH, WETLANDS WITHIN THE LOW CERRITOS WETLANDS RESTORATION PROJECT, WHICH IS, UH, FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF THE, UH, ONSITE BIO SWELL.
AND SO, UH, NOT ONLY IS THE PROJECT POSITIVELY GOING TO IMPACT THE ONSITE BIO SWELL, BUT IT WILL ALSO POSITIVELY IMPACT THE CREATION OF ADDITIONAL WETLANDS OFFSITE, UH, WHICH AGAIN, UH, MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE SUBJECT CAN BE REFERENCED WITHIN THE, UH, WRITTEN STAFF REPORT AND THE SUPPORTING, UH, ATTACHMENTS.
IN CONCLUSION, UH, STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REDESIGN PROJECT WITH A 25 FOOT BUFFER, UH, BETWEEN THE BIO SWELL AND PROPOSED BUILDING.
FRONTAGES, UH, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE, UH, BUFFER OF 25 FEET IS JUSTIFIED AND REPRESENTS THE BEST FEASIBLE BUFFER, UH, SO AS NOT TO AFFECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE, UH, PROJECT IN TERMS OF, UH, REDUCED UNIT COUNT.
AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT ALL FINDINGS CAN STILL BE MADE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
THE AFOREMENTIONED INITIATIVES PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT ARE INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, ALONG WITH ALL OF THE ORIGINAL CONDITIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS APPROVAL EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE REDESIGN PROJECT DOES STILL MEET THE INTENT AND GOALS OF CSIP AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THAT THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE, UH, MUCH NEEDED HOUSING WITHIN A HIGH RESOURCE AREA IN SOUTHEAST LONG BEACH.
AND SO WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, UH, STAFF IS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT SUBJECT TO THOSE CONDITIONS.
UH, THAT'S GONNA CONCLUDE THIS REPORT.
WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THE PRESENTER, THE APPLICANT, THEY HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, AND THE PRESENTER IS, WILL BE JOINING, UH, REMOTELY.
SO, UH, STAFF IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP, UH, NAVIGATE THE, UH, THE, THE PRESENTATION, UH, OR THE APPLICANT, UH, MEMBERS WHO ARE ON SITE CAN FEEL FREE TO DO SO AS WELL.
UH, AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA CONCLUDE THIS REPORT AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
BEFORE WE ASK STAFF ANY QUESTIONS, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN WE CAN ASK OUR QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THAT.
SO IF WE GO AHEAD AND QUEUE UP THE APPLICANT WHILE WE'RE QUEUING UP THE APPLICANT, I DID WANNA MENTION THAT ON THIS ITEM WE'LL HAVE ONE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE WILL TAKE, BE TAKING TWO VOTES RELATIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THEN RELATIVE TO THE SITE PLAN RECOMMENDATION.
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OKAY.READY? THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND CITY STAFF FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
I'M MEREDITH MCGARRY, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH A E GROUP, AND HERE WITH ME TODAY IS VP OF DEVELOPMENT, MARK SPECTER AND DAVID GOLDBERG FROM A GD LAND USE ATTORNEYS.
AND JOINING US VIRTUALLY IS BEN WRIGLEY FROM STB ARCHITECTS.
AS QUENTIN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THIS PROJECT WAS IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 20TH.
FOLLOWING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS, THE CITY STAFF, AND THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.
FOLLOWING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE DECIDED TO INCREASE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ADJACENT TO THE ONSITE MANMADE BIOSWALE AND VOLUNTEER TWO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
WE BELIEVE THIS COLLECTIVELY WILL PROVIDE GREATER RESOURCE PROTECTIONS WHILE ALSO BRINGING MUCH NEEDED HOUSING TO THE AREA AND HELP THE CITY ACHIEVE ITS ARENA REQUIREMENTS.
ANI HAS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS COMPLETED OR IN THE PIPELINE WITHIN THE GREATER LEV LA AREA, ONE OF IT, WHICH IS OUR ANI EAST VILLAGE PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION OF LONG BEACH BOULEVARD AND THIRD STREET, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY IN LEASE UP UPON.
ANI IS A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED OWNER, BUILDER AND OPERATOR, AND WE'VE NEVER SOLD AN ASSET IN OVER 50 YEARS ON THE DESIGN TEAM, WE'RE WORKING WITH SCB ARCHITECTS.
SCB HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE ON SIMILAR MIXED USE, MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS ACROSS THE US.
WE'RE WORKING WITH SALT FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.
SALT HAS COMPLETED SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND THE COUNTY OF LA UM, AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB INCORPORATING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SITE FOR THIS PROJECT.
WHILE WORKING WITH THE, WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN AND SQA COMPLIANCE FOR THE PROJECT, WE'VE DONE EXTENSIVE OUTREACH WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS AND HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED ON THE PROJECT.
AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LONG BEACH MARINA BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE'VE AGREED TO ADDITIONAL VOLUNTARY CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS THEIR FEEDBACK.
THE VOLUNTARY CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH CITY STAFF AND INCORPORATED INTO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
WE HAVE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE LOS CERRITOS WETLANDS LAND TRUST, AND BY INCORPORATING THEIR FEEDBACK, WE BELIEVE THE PROJECT WILL RESULT IN NET BENEFITS TO WETLAND RESOURCES.
WE VALUE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE LOCAL GROUPS AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AS A PROJECT PROGRESSES.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE PROJECT IS WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST AREA SPECIFIC PLAN, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY INCENTIVES TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OR GO BEYOND WHAT IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
DESPITE THE CHANGES TO THE LANCE OR THE BIOSWALE BUFFER, WE'VE MAINTAINED 600 UNITS AND 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, AND BOTH BUILDINGS WILL MAINTAIN FIVE STORIES.
UM, EXISTING ON THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF HIGH TURNOVER RETAIL AND IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SECOND AND PCH MALL.
THE EXISTING BUILDINGS WILL BE DEMOLISHED TO MAKE WAY FOR THE TWO FIVE STORY BUILDINGS AS PART OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGES HERE, THE MANMADE BIOSWALE IS NOT IN GREAT CONDITION AND HAS BEEN COLONIZED BY VARIOUS NON-NATIVE INVASIVE SPECIES.
AS PART OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, WE'LL BE INCREASING THE LANDSCAPED BUFFER ON SITE TO 25 FEET INCLU AND INCLUDING ADDITIONAL PARKWAY LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE INCREASED SEPARATION FROM PCH.
WE'RE ALSO TAKING SEVERAL VOLUNTARY MEASURE MEASURES THAT QUENTIN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, INCLUDING AN ENHANCEMENT IN MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS FUNDING FOR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS AND FAMILIES WITHIN LONG BEACH, AND FUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF 0.2 ACRES OF WETLANDS WITHIN THE SOUTHERN LOS CERRITOS WETLANDS.
WE'LL ALSO BE ADHERING TO THE WETLAND MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS WITHIN CSIP, INCLUDING BIRD SAFE GLAZING, ALL NATIVE PLANTING PALETTE THROUGHOUT THE SITE, AS WELL AS BIRD SAFE LIGHTING DESIGN TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS.
ANI WILL ALSO BE PERFORMING ADDITIONAL CONSULTATIONS WITH A BIRD SAFE LIGHTING EXPERT TO MITIGATE POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING HABITATS.
AND WE HAVE BEN WRIGLEY ON THE LINE, UM, WHO WILL SPEAK TO THE BUILDING CONCEPT AND DESIGN.
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BEN, YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED.BEN, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE UNMUTED.
BEN, YOU MAY WISH TO TRY UNMUTING AND OR MUTING AND UNMUTING AGAIN ON YOUR END JUST TO MAKE SURE.
OKAY, WE HAVE YOU NOW YOU HAVE ME NOW.
UM, ALSO THANK YOU TO QUENTIN FOR MAKING A GREAT PRESENTATION AND, UH, THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR, UH, ALLOWING ME NOT TO TRAVEL TODAY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR.
I AM BEN WRIGLEY WITH SCB, AND, UH, WE, WE'VE BEEN LUCKY TO WORK, UH, WITH ANI ON THIS PROJECT AND WITH MANY OF THEIR OTHER PROJECTS.
AND THIS WILL BE A VERY BRIEF DESIGN PRESENTATION.
I KNOW YOU HAVE REVIEWED THE PROJECT BEFORE ON SCREEN HERE.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, FOR US SOME EARLY CONCEPT SKETCHES REALLY THAT EXPLORED SUCH A, THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS SIDE, UH, THIS SIDE, THE WAY THAT ADDRESSES BOTH THE UNIQUE ECOLOGIES OF THE WETLANDS TO THE NORTHEAST AND TO THE MARINA TO THE SOUTHWEST.
AND FOR US, THAT REALLY DROVE THE DESIGN CONCEPT, WHICH, UH, LOOKED AT WAYS OF INCORPORATING THE LANGUAGE OF THE WETLANDS INTO THE, THE LANDSCAPING ON THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FACING THAT SIDE OF THE SITE.
BUT ALSO EQUALLY, UM, THE, THE WINGS ON TOP OF THE BUILDING PULL IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE MARINA, AND REALLY FROM THAT ELEVATED POSITION, THEY ADDRESS THE MARINA AND START TO REFERENCE THE LANGUAGE OF SOME OF THE SHIPS AND THOSE SORT OF CLEANER, LIGHTER FORMS THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE MARINA.
SO BRINGING THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER ON THE PROJECT SITE.
UM, AND SO AS WELL AS THINKING ABOUT THE BUILDING SORT OF THREE DIMENSIONALLY FROM A, FROM A SORT OF AERIAL PERSPECTIVE, THINKING ABOUT HOW WE ORGANIZE THE SITE AND SORT OF RECOGNIZING SOME OF THE IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE, OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN, UM, I THINK FOR US, THE, THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT WAS THE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAD A PASSE AT THE CENTER OF THE SITE, UH, BREAKING THE BUILDING UP INTO TWO.
THIS ALLOWED US TO REALLY CREATE A PHYSICAL CONNECTION AS A SORT OF MANIFESTATION OF THE IDEA OF CONNECTING THE MARINA AND THE WETLANDS.
UM, AND ALSO YOU SEE HERE, THE WAY WE PULLED THE WINGS BACK, UH, ON, ON THAT ELEVATED POSITION TO ALLOW A BETTER AMOUNT OF DAYLIGHT INTO THE HEART OF THE SITE AND ONTO THE AMENITY LEVELS OF THE PROJECT, WHICH ARE UP AT THAT ELEVATED POSITION, REALLY ADDRESSING THE WATER AND THE, THE, THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE CONNECTED BY A BRIDGE OVER THAT PEO.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANTLY, WE KNOW THAT THAT PEO WAS THERE TO SERVE AS A VIEW CORRIDOR UP TO THE WETLANDS, AND WE KNOW WE HAD THE BIO SWELL ON THE SITE THAT WE HAD TO PROTECT.
AND THAT'S SORT OF INDICATED HERE ON THIS SKETCH.
I THINK FOR US, AS WE STARTED TO EXPAND THE BUFFER AROUND THE SITE AND ADDRESS THIS DESIGN CHALLENGE, IT ACTUALLY JUST IMPROVES THAT CONDITION AND, AND THE SORT OF PRESENCE OF, OF THE, THE, UH, THAT WETLANDS AND THE LANDSCAPING IS AT THE HEAD OF THAT, PER SE, AS AS A REAL PEDESTRIAN GATEWAY INTO THE PROJECT.
AT THE GROUND FLOOR PLAN HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT HASN'T REALLY CHANGED FROM, I KNOW YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGES BEFORE AND AFTER PLANS.
THE GROUND FLOOR PLAN HASN'T REALLY CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE, THE, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT ALONG, UH, PCH, WHERE WE'VE OBVIOUSLY EXPANDED THOSE SETBACKS AROUND THE BIOSWALE.
AND THAT HAS MEANT MOVING, AS QUENTIN SAID, SOME OF THE, UH, AREA OF THE BUILDING OUT TOWARDS THE CORNERS.
AND THE CIP, WE KNOW, UH, GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT AND EXPLORE OTHER WAYS OF REPRESENTING THAT GATEWAY ON THAT CORNER OF, UH, PCH AND STUDEBAKER.
SO THIS SITE PLAN IS REALLY CHANGING PREDOMINANTLY ALONG PCH.
YOU SEE HERE THE, UH, THE PLAN OF THE PODIUM OF THE BUILDING.
AGAIN, IT'S REALLY HERE TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE THAT AREA HAS MOVED TO AND OUT TO THE CORNERS OF, UH, PCH AND STUDEBAKER.
AND REALLY THAT THAT 25 FOOT SETBACK THAT HAS BEEN INCREASED NOW GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SKY WHERE THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY EVEN A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE BUILDING, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS ITERATION.
AND THEN THE TYPICAL FLOOR OF THE BUILDING ABOVE THAT
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NEXT SLIDE, THE LANDSCAPING STRATEGY ON THE SITE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE AMENITY DECK, WHICH IS ILLUSTRATED HERE OR ON THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, WHICH IS THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, ALSO CONTINUES THAT CONCEPT, THIS IDEA OF A MORE OPEN, UM, SORT OF WATER DRIVEN SET OF PROGRAMS AND RELATIONSHIPS ON THE SITE THAT FACES THE MARINA.AND AS YOU TRAVEL DEEPER INTO THE SITE, WHETHER AGAIN IT'S ON THE PODIUM OR THROUGH THE PASSE OR AROUND THE SITE, IT STARTS TO GET A LITTLE DENSE WITH LANDSCAPE AND A LITTLE MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WETLANDS ENVIRONMENT AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE MARINA.
AND SO, THE CORNER ELEMENT, WHICH I THINK QUENTIN DESCRIBED VERY WELL, UH, IS NOW SWITCHED FROM BEING MORE OF A PLAZA EXPRESSION WITH PUBLIC ART TO THIS, UH, TOWER EXPRESSION, WHICH MAY MAINTAINS THE MATERIALITY OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
SO IT DOESN'T LOOK ALIEN TO THE BUILDING, BUT IT TAKES ON A DIFFERENT, MORE VERTICAL EXPRESSION.
TAKES SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS.
WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING TO DARKEN THE, THE METAL, UH, PANEL THAT IS, UM, THE PREDOMINANT CLADDING OF THIS CORN ELEMENT.
AND SOMETHING WE'RE DOING HERE, WHICH WE HAVE DONE ON OTHER PROJECTS, IS BRINGING THAT PUBLIC ART COMPONENT, WHICH WE'RE VERY KEEN NOT TO LOSE, BRINGING IT OUTTA THE PLAZA, PUTTING IT ON THE FACE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE IT, I THINK, MUCH MORE VISIBLE TO PEOPLE, UH, MOVING IN AND AROUND AND PAST THE SITE.
UH, IN OUR MINDS ACTUALLY AS A CORNER EXPRESSION.
UH, THE TOWER HERE IS SOMEWHAT MORE POWERFUL AS A GATEWAY ELEMENT THAN THE PLAZA ELEMENT WAS.
AND AN, AND AN ILLUSTRATION, WHICH IS FROM THE EARLIER PRESENTATION, WHICH SHOWS YOU, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROJECT IS NOT REALLY CHANGING.
THIS IS THE CHARACTER THAT WE'VE REALLY WORKED HARD TO DEVELOP THIS RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER WITHIN THE PASSE, THIS PUBLIC SPACE THAT HELPS PEOPLE MOVE FROM PCH THROUGH TO THE MARINA.
AND THE, THE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S VERY SORT OF CAREFULLY CHOREOGRAPHED THE FLOOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HARDSCAPE FINISHES, THERE'S FRONT STOOPS, THIS REALLY, UH, BEAUTIFUL, UH, PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE THAT MOVES YOU FROM PCH AND INTO THE HEART OF THE SITE.
THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW THAT, HOW THE LANGUAGE OF THE BUILDING CHANGES AS IT LOOKS TOWARDS THE MARINA.
AGAIN, LESS FOCUSED NOW ON THOSE, UH, SORT OF THE DARKER RICHER, WETLANDS DRIVEN MATERIAL PALETTE AND MORE PROMINENCE GIVEN TO THOSE WINGS AND THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE ABOVE THAT PODIUM LOOKING OUT AND ADDRESSING THE MARINA.
THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS AN AERIAL SHOT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HARD AT THIS SCALE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS SCHEME AND THIS ONE.
BUT THE TWO THINGS, OBVIOUSLY THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THAT MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE SPACE THAT EXISTS AROUND THE, UH, THE, THE BIOSWALE THAT HELPS TO CREATE A REAL LANDSCAPE GATEWAY AS YOU START TO MANEUVER FROM PCH INTO THE PEO AND THE, UH, THE CORNER TOWER ELEMENTS AND HOW THAT SORT FILLS OUT THAT CORNER REPLACES THE OLD PLAZA AND CREATES THAT VERY SORT OF PROMINENT GATE, UH, GATEWAY MOMENT ALONG PCH.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE ARCHITECTURAL PRESENTATION.
AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, THANK YOU, MEREDITH.
THE EXISTING BIO SWELL THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW IS THAT TREATED AS A TYPICAL BIOS SWAB THAT WE WOULD SEE ON A REGULAR COMMERCIAL PROJECT WHERE THE STORM WATER FROM THE SURROUNDING SITE IS ACTUALLY DRAINING THROUGH THAT, UH, PERCOLATE INTO EITHER THE UNDERGROUND WATER TABLE OR INTO A STORM DRAIN SYSTEM.
UH, SO IT DOESN'T DRAIN INTO THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, IT DIRECTLY PERCOLATES, UM, IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING WELL OR CORRECTLY.
SO IN THAT REGARD, IT'S NOT LIKE A TYPICAL SYSTEM, BUT IT'S DESIGNED SIMILAR.
UM, I THINK SINCE THE TIME THIS ONE WAS DONE, UM, THEY'RE DESIGNED A LITTLE MORE THOUGHTFULLY.
I JUST THINK OF IT AS LIKE A IPHONE ONE OR TWO AND NOW WE'RE ON 15 OR, OR WHATEVER.
SO, UM, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT PERFECTLY.
UM, AND IT WASN'T IMPOSED BY THE CITY.
IT WAS IMPOSED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION ALL THOSE YEARS BACK.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE NOW FROM QUENTIN'S PRESENTATION, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL ACTUALLY MEET THE CURRENT LID STANDARDS AND WILL FILTER AND DRAIN STORM WATER OFF THE SITE INTO A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAN INTO THIS BIO SWELL, CORRECT.
AVOIDING THE TOXIC THINGS THAT MIGHT BE IN A PARKING LOT AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING INTO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
SO PREVIOUSLY THIS WAS NOT APPEALABLE TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND NOW IT IS.
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SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THE CITY COMPLETELY AGREES WITH HOW THAT HAPPENS.I'M JUST GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHRONOLOGY OF WHAT HAPPENED.
UM, THIS IS NOT A NATURAL WETLAND.
THIS IS A CONSTRUCTED STORMWATER FACILITY, UM, THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED DECADES AGO.
IT'S KNOWN, IT'S KNOWN TO THE CITY, IT'S KNOWN TO COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF.
UM, WE SUBMITTED, UM, CAP TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION BACK IN I BELIEVE, 2017, UM, WHICH INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE SITES AND WHAT WE CONSIDERED ESHA AND DID NOT CONSIDER ESHA.
UM, THEY DID NOT FLAG THIS SITE.
THEY DID ASK US FOR ADDITIONAL HABITAT MAPPING, WHICH WE DID, INCLUDING FOR THIS SITE.
AND WE IDENTIFIED WHY IN THE VIEW OF THE CITY IT WAS NOT, UM, SENSITIVE HABITAT.
UM, THEY CERTIFIED CSIP WITH THIS LOCATION AS NOT SENSITIVE HABITAT AND NOT APPEALABLE.
UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT ACQUIRED THIS SITE, UM, AT SUBSTANTIAL COST, THE COASTAL, UH, CONCEIVABLY BASED ON THE WRITTEN RULES THAT EXISTED AT THAT TIME.
UM, THE COASTAL COMMISSION, UM, PUBLISHED AS A MAP POST CERTIFICATION APPEALABLE MAP, WHICH LISTED THE SITE IS NOT APPEALABLE.
UM, THE CITY PROCESSED THIS PROJECT, IT WENT TO THIS COMMISSION, IT WAS APPROVED NOT WITHOUT CONTROVERSY, UM, AND IT WAS APPEALED TO, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL DID NOT HEAR THE ITEM, UM, WHEN IT WAS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE COASTAL COMMISSION, UH, INDIVIDUAL STAFF MEMBER CONTACTED THE CITY, UH, TO INSTRUCT US TO INSTRUCT THE, UH, APPLICANT IN THIS CASE THAT THE PROJECT WAS APPEALABLE AND THAT THE COASTAL COMMISSION HAD OPINED, UM, THAT THIS WAS A WETLAND BASED ON THE, UH, CONJECTURE OF THE PROJECT OPPONENT IN THIS CASE.
UM, I THINK IF THE CITY DID THAT, THAT WOULD NOT BE A DEFENSIBLE ACTION.
BUT THE, THE STATE, UH, DOES HAVE DIFFERENT AUTHORITY AND THEY'RE RELYING ON THE FACT THAT THERE'S A FOOTNOTE ON THE MAP THAT SAYS IT'S, UM, SUBJECT TO REFINEMENT BASED ON NATURAL CONDITIONS.
UM, I THINK THE CITY IS HIGHLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE COMPLETE LACK OF CONSISTENCY PROVIDED BY THE STATE IN THIS MATTER.
UM, AND, AND WE'VE INDICATED SO TO THEM BOTH IN VERBALLY AND IN WRITING.
SO, UH, THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT WERE LEFT WITH A COUPLE OPTIONS.
WE COULD SPEND THE NEXT DECADE IN COURT, UM, FIGHTING WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND WOULD PROBABLY LOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVEN ALMOST COMPLETE DEFERENCE BY THE COURTS.
UM, OR WE COULD COME BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD SATISFY, UM, THE, UH, STATED OBJECTIVES OF THE APPELLANT, UM, AND THE, THE COASTAL COMMISSION THAT TOOK THE, UM, APPELLANT'S VIEW, UH, AT FACE VALUE, UH, THAT TO DETERMINE AFTER THE FACT THAT THIS IS A WETLAND.
UH, THAT'S VERY, UH, INTERESTING.
UM, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION JUST DECIDING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY BASIS, UH, OBJECTIVE STANDARD.
UH, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING AND, UM, I APPRECIATE BOTH THE WORK THAT YOU FOLKS IN THE APPLICANT HAVE PUT INTO, UH, WORKING AROUND THIS REQUIREMENT AND THE PUSHBACK THAT YOU PROVIDED TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
UM, BUT THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT DESCRIPTION.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
WELL, FIRST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AS A NEWEST, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER I'VE, I'M LEARNING AND DIGESTING ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS SENT.
UM, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION THAT THE COASTAL COMMISSION BELIEVES THAT THE PROJECT, THIS IS FOR STAFF, SORRY, FOR PROJECTS, THE, THE PROJECT SITE IS A WETLAND OR IS IT ADJACENT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON HOW THE DOCUMENTS READ ON.
CAN WE HAVE THE STAFF POWERPOINT BACK UP? I THINK, UH, OUR PRESIDENT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
SO JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE, IT'S NOT THAT THE WHOLE OF THE SITE IS A WETLAND.
SO, UM, THERE'S AN AREA THAT TO THE NAKED EYE LOOKS LIKE OVERGROWN PLANTS, BUT IT DOES RECEIVE
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WATER, WHICH IS WHAT, UM, CONSTRUCTED WETLANDS OR STORMWATER FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED TO DO.UM, AND THEREFORE IN THE REASONING OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION, IT HAS WETLAND SOILS AND WETLAND INDICATOR PLANTS.
UM, SO IT MEETS THEIR CRITERIA, UM, AS A WETLAND.
UH, IT'S NOT THE SAME CRITERIA USED BY THE FEDS OR ACTUALLY ANY OTHER AGENCY IN WHICH THERE'S A THREE PART TEST, UM, TO DETERMINE A WETLAND.
AND TRADITIONALLY YOU DON'T CONSIDER A CONSTRUCTED WETLAND A WETLAND BECAUSE THAT WOULD DISCOURAGE ANYONE FROM EVER BUILDING A CONSTRUCTED WETLAND.
BUT THOSE ARE, UH, POINTS OF DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE, THE CITY AND THE STATE.
SO IT'S NOT THE WHOLE OF THE SITE.
ALLISON'S GONNA BRING UP THE IMAGE.
YEAH, SO THERE'S A RED KIND OF ARROW POINTING AT THAT PLANT AREA.
NO, I THINK THAT CLARIFICATION WAS IMPORTANT AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS TRYING TO APPEASE THAT IF THIS WERE TO BE CONSIDERED A WETLAND BICOASTAL, THE REQUIREMENT IS TYPICALLY TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SETBACK, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THE FEASIBILITY OF THE EXISTING PROJECT AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SETBACK TO THIS AREA, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE HAVE QUOTE UNQUOTE REAL WETLANDS LIKE MARKETPLACE MARSH AND STEAM SHOVEL SLEW, YOU KNOW, YOUR IDEAL, UH, SETBACK IS A HUNDRED FEET OR MORE, UH, A HUNDRED FEET WOULD RESULT IN A TOTAL TAKING OF THIS SITE, UM, AND WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
SO WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE PLAN FOR REDUCING, UM, THE BUFFER TO AN AMOUNT THAT'S FEASIBLE.
UM, AND WE DID HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND, AND THEY SEEMED TO VERBALLY CONCUR IN THAT AMOUNT.
UM, AND THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THE 10 TO 12 FEET ORIGINALLY DESIGNED WAS GONNA RESULT IN SHADOWS, UH, IMPACTS, AND THAT, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH SUNLIGHT, UH, INTO THE WETLAND AREA FOR IT TO, UH, GROW AND FLOURISH.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE CLARIFICATIONS, COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
SPEAKING OF DEJA VU, WE WERE ALL HERE ON THIS 25 YEARS AGO AS WELL, SO WHEN THAT SITE WAS A WETLANDS, SO IT'S ALL HOW YOU TELL THE STORY, BUT I DON'T ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES WE SENT YOU.
WE, WE, WE WILL BE APPEALING THIS SHOULD YOU APPROVE IT BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING WE SAID IN OUR EMAIL, WHICH I CAN'T READ IN THREE MINUTES.
MY CO-CHAIR IS ON THE LINE, BUT I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER A COUPLE OF POINTS HERE THAT IT'S CIP.
THERE'S MANY VIOLATIONS OF CIP, EVEN THE REVISION VIOLATES THE CIP, UH, HEIGHT LIMITS, UH, ON, ON FOR THAT INTERSECTION NOW.
EXPANDING GREEN SPACE AROUND AND IMPROVING MAINTENANCE OF ONSITE WETLANDS IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO PREVENT IMPACTS TO THE PLANTS AND WILDLIFE NOW SERVED BY THIS WETLANDS.
AND IT IS A WETLANDS, IT'S A REMNANT WETLANDS.
IT IS USED BY BIRDS AND WILDLIFE BLOCKING FLIGHT INTO AND OUT OF THIS WETLANDS WITH A FIVE STORY BUILDING, INCREASING BOTH FOOT AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC ADJACENT TO THIS WETLAND ALONE WILL REDUCE ACCESS, ACCESS, NOT BY PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILDLIFE AND BIRDS.
THE FACT THAT NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER ENSURED THAT THE MITIGATION FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL ONSITE WETLANDS BACK IN THE DAY, UH, WAS SUCCESSFUL, DOESN'T MAKE THE CITY LESS ACCOUNTABLE, NOR SHOULD IT RESULT IN ADDITIONAL HARM.
COASTAL BIRDS ARE KEY TO THE HEALTH OF THE ENTIRE WETLANDS, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE INCREASINGLY IMPACTED BY DEVELOPMENT.
THE EXISTING ONE STORY DEVELOPMENT IN A PARKING LOT, UH, DOES NOT IMPEDE FLIGHT BETWEEN THE WETLANDS AND THE BAY, BUT CERTAINLY A FIVE STORY BUILDING WILL.
SO THE SALTWATER MARSH, I'LL, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE AREA THEY WANT TO IMPROVE IS IN SEAL BEACH.
IT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CSIP, AS IT SAYS IN THE REPORT, IT'S ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RIVER FOR THAT.
PLUS SALTWATER MARSH ISN'T IN IN SEAL BEACH.
AND, AND TO, IN ORDER TO GET THAT SALTWATER MARSH, WHICH THEY'RE OFFERING TO GET AND WHICH IS IS PROPOSED MEANS BULLDOZING AND FLOODING THE EXISTING SITE OVER THERE.
THIS, THIS WILL IMPACT TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES AND THE EXISTING ECOSYSTEMS. IT'S A, IT'S AN OUTDATED AND VERY BAD RESTORATION PROJECT.
JUST NO MORE ON THAT AS FAR AS HOUSING GOES, SURE, WE NEED HOUSING, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF LONG BEACH,
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WE KNOW FROM MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER, AND WE DO APPRECIATE REALLY NICE PEOPLE, GREAT MEETING WITH THEM, BUT WE, WE JUST HAVE TO TRY TO FOLLOW THE LAW.AND WE ALSO ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING AS IT'S BEING MISREPRESENTED AS A NEED FOR THIS SPECIFIC KIND OF HOUSING IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
FIRST OF ALL, THE SITE IS UNSAFE.
IT IS, IT IS GOING, IT IS SURROUNDED BY LAND THAT IS GONNA BE UNDERWATER.
IT'S NEXT TO AN EARTHQUAKE FAULT AND ACTIVE OIL FIELDS WITHIN, WITHIN EVEN A 3,200 FEET OF EXISTING AND EXPANDING OIL FIELDS.
IT'S DANGEROUS TO BUILD THERE AND TO HOUSE PEOPLE THERE.
AND THE CITY IS PUSHING THIS HOUSING ON THIS STREET WITHIN A FEW BLOCKS.
AND MEANWHILE, YOUR COMMENT, HOUSING, HOUSING, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN LONG BEACH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS HOUSING.
TO RENT A ONE BEDROOM APPOINTMENT.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE APARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO MAKE $90,000 A YEAR.
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN LONG BEACH DON'T MAKE 90,000 A YEAR.
THE MAJORITY OF SENIORS DON'T HAVE A $60,000 A YEAR INCOME.
WE NEED HOUSING, WE NEED IT IN EAST LONG BEACH.
I LIVE IN EAST LONG BEACH, COME AND BUILD ON MY BLOCK.
MY NEIGHBORS WILL HATE ME FOR SAYING THAT, BUT I, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL, THEY'LL BE SAFE.
IF PEOPLE MOVE AT THIRD AND TERMINAL, THEY WILL BE SAFE.
THEY WILL NOT BE FLOODED, THEY WILL NOT BE NEXT TO AN EARTHQUAKE.
THEY WILL NOT BE NEXT TO OIL WELLS IF WE'RE GONNA BUILD, BUILD SAFE AND BUILD IT AFFORDABLE TO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, NOT IMPORTING PEOPLE LUXURY HOUSING FOR PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE CHAMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS? IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
OUR FIRST PERSON WITH OUR HAND RAISED IS JOHN.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE LOS CERRITOS WETLANDS LAND TRUST FOR LONG BEACH AND SEAL BEACH.
I'M HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT THAT ARE PROTECTIVE OF WETLANDS VALUES.
THEY ARE FUNDING OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF 0.20 ACRES OF SALT MARSH WETLANDS WITHIN THE SOUTHERN LOS CERRITOS WETLANDS RESTORATION PROJECT AT A FOUR TO ONE RATIO TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE BIOSWALE ON THE PROJECT SITE.
SECOND, PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE OF THE BIOSWALE FOUND ON THE PROJECT SITE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF A QUALIFIED BIOLOGIST TO PROVIDE MAXIMUM FEASIBLE FRESHWATER WETLANDS FUNCTIONS IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY AND PROVIDE OTHER ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS.
AND FINALLY, CONSULTATION WITH DR. TRAVIS LONG CORE FOR SUGGESTIONS TO ENHANCE THE PROJECT'S BIRD SAFE LIGHTING AND DESIGN.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WE'VE GOT NO OTHER SPEAKERS THAT ARE ON THE LINE.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK BEHIND THE RAIL.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I HAVE QUESTION.
SO WHY, WHY DOES THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE ANY LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? I, SO, UM, THERE ARE NO LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO OTHER RECENT, UM, LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS SAME AREA THAT DID INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EXCHANGE FOR, UM, INCENTIVES PROVIDED THROUGH THE STATE'S AND, UH, THE STATE'S DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.
SO THOSE OTHER TWO PROJECTS NEEDED ADDITIONAL HEIGHT OR CERTAIN CONCESSIONS FROM THE REGULATIONS AND IN EXCHANGE PROVIDED SOME PROPORTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, THE WAY THAT, UM, LEGALLY YOU CAN SOMETIMES REQUIRE A PROPORTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WOULD BE THROUGH AN INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT.
WE DO HAVE THAT HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS WELL AS THE MIDTOWN AREA.
UM, AND THE CITY IN OUR HOUSING ELEMENT HAS COMMITTED TO POLICIES TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THOSE.
WHEN THE CITY LOOKED AT DOING THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, WE STARTED BY LOOKING CITYWIDE AT IMPOSING A REQUIREMENT.
HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE OF, UM, THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT
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THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO PROVE THAT YOU COULD ADD THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT CITYWIDE.UM, SO NOW THAT WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND TIME, WE ARE, UH, GONNA BE WORKING TO LOOK AT EXPANDING IT.
BUT, UM, AT THE TIME AND PLACE WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS PROPOSED, THAT REQUIREMENTS NOT IN PLACE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DO HAVE THE CITY'S ENHANCED DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND STATE LAW TO TRY TO FURTHER, UM, INCENTIVIZE PROJECTS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
HOWEVER, IT TOOK ABOUT TWO YEARS TO GET THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO APPROVE THAT.
SO IT WAS NOT IN PLACE IN THE COASTAL ZONE AT THE TIME THIS PROJECT, UM, WAS APPLIED FOR.
SO IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO THIS APPLICATION.
COMMISSIONER CLEMSON, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
COMMISSIONER TEMPLAN, COMMISSIONER CASTILLO? WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT.
I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE.
PLEASE CAN, AS A REMINDER, I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE, ON THE MOTION ITSELF.
WE JUST WANTED, FOR SAKE OF COMPLETE CLARITY ON THE MOTION, UM, WE'LL HAVE IT SPLIT INTO TWO PARTS OF THE VOTE.
AS IT RELATES TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
THERE WERE UPDATED FINDINGS THAT WERE PROVIDED YESTERDAY AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR THE MOTION MAKER THAT THE MOTION IS INTENDED ON THE FINDINGS THAT WERE UPDATED AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
YESTERDAY, OUR MOTION MAKER WAS, UM, COMMISSIONER CLEMSON.
IS THAT YOUR, WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING IN THE MAKING OF THE MOTION? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND OUR SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN.
SO WE COULD HAVE MADAM CLERK, IF WE COULD PULL THIS INTO TWO VOTES THEN IF WE COULD HAVE A FIRST VOTE ON THE, UM, MAKE SURE I GET THIS ON THE CWA CORRECT.
SO AS THE CLERK IS PULLING IT, I CAN READ IT IF YOU'D LIKE FOR SURE.
JUST SO WE'RE ALL VERY CLEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THE FIRST VOTE IS ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, PREVIOUSLY ANALYZED AS PART OF THE SOUTHEAST AREA SPECIFIC PLAN PROGRAM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AND SUBJECT TO THE CIP MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM.
AND THAT NO FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS REQUIRED PURSUANT TO THE CQA, UM, GUIDELINES SECTIONS 51 68, 1 51 62, AND 1 51 83.
AND I BELIEVE THE QUESTION SHOULD BE ON ALL OF YOUR MONITORS.
SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION, AND SINCE WE'VE MOVED TO VOTING, WE'RE WE'RE STILL IN VOTING LAND, SO THE SECOND PART OF THE SECOND VOTE IS TO APPROVE SITE PLAN REVIEW, SPR 22 DASH 1 0 9 AND LOCAL COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT LCDP 22 DASH 0 62 AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS, WHICH WERE AS CLARIFIED BY THE MOTION MAKER AND SECOND MAKER, THE FINDINGS UPDATED, UPLOADED, UM, YESTERDAY AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED THERETO FOR A MIXED USE PROJECT WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE CONSISTING OF THAT DESCRIPTION THAT WE'VE READ.
UM, AGAIN, THAT IS FOR THE MIXED USE COMMUNITY CORE DESIGNATION OF THE CSIP.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK IT'S A, A, A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE, BUT AS THAT SECOND QUESTION CAME UP, WE WERE REQUIRED TO PUT A NEW MOTION AND SECOND, AND SO THE RECORD RIGHT NOW IS SHOWING THAT COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN AND CASTILLO HAVE FIRST AND SECONDED THAT, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT COMMISSIONER CLEMSON AND COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN WERE THE MOTION MAKERS ON THE ITEM.
AND JUST FOR SAKE OF CLARITY ACROSS, UM, WHEN YOU PUT IN YOUR INITIAL MOTION, DID YOU INTEND FOR THAT MOTION TO CARRY TO BOTH PORTIONS OF THE RECOMMENDATION? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
SO WE CAN CORRECT THAT AFTERWARDS IN THE MINUTES.
AND THAT MOTION CARRIES GREAT.
THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK ON THAT IS THAT IF WE COULD HAVE OUR NEXT ITEM OF
[4. 23-51615 Recommendation to accept Categorical Exemption CE23-094 and, Approve a Conditional Use Permit (CUP23-018) and adopt the proposed findings and conditions of approval thereto, for a duplicate beer manufacturing alcohol license (Alcoholic Beverage Control License, Type 23) and the on and off-site sales of beer within an existing commercial tenant space located at 2122 East 4th Street (APN:7263-004-047) in the Neighborhood Pedestrian (CNP) Zoning District. (District 2) Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
BUSINESS PLEASE.ITEM FOUR IS RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION CE 23 DASH 0 9 4 AND APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THERETO FOR A DUPLICATE BEER MANUFACTURING ALCOHOL LICENSE, AND THE ON AND OFFSITE SALES OF BEER WITHIN THE AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL TENANT SPACE LOCATED AT 2 1 2 2 EAST FOURTH STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEDESTRIAN ZONING DISTRICT DISTRICT TWO.
IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO HEAR THAT ITEM.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN WAITING FOR A SECOND.
GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLEMSON, WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
PROJECT PLANNER LIANA ARGEL WILL PROVIDE THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
THE ITEM FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST TO ALLOW
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A NEW TASTING ROOM WITH TYPE 23 DUPLICATE LICENSE.THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT 2122 EAST FOURTH STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEDESTRIAN ZONING DISTRICT AND WITHIN THE HEIGHT LIMIT OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THE GENERAL PLAN POLICE TYPE IS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING CENTERS IN CORRIDOR LOW.
THE CURRENT BUILDING IS A THREE TENANT COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE WITH A SPECIFIC UNIT OF 2122 BEING A 3,538 SQUARE FEET TENANT SPACE WITH APPROXIMATELY 906 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA.
THE SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE RESIDENTIAL TO AND COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO THE NORTHEAST, RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND COMMERCIAL AND TO THE EAST AND WEST.
THE FULL PROJECT DESCRIPTION IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A TYPE 23 DUPLICATE SMALL BEER MANUFACTURING ALCOHOL LICENSE FOR ON AND OFFSITE SALE OF BEER.
HERE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE, UM, ESTABLISHMENT.
IT IS CURRENTLY A BUSINESS NAME, THE HANGOUT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A TYPE 23 SMALL BEER MANUFACTURER DUPLICATE LICENSE, WHICH PERMITS ON AND OFF SALE OF BEER, SOME BACKGROUND OF THE TENANT SPACE.
IT IS AN EXISTING RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SPACE NAMED THE HANGOUT WITH AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT EXEMPTION AND A TYPE 41 A BC LICENSE ALLOWING ONSITE SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF BEER AND WINE.
NO DEDICATED ONSITE OFF STREET PARKING IS PROVIDED IN THE SITE, IS LOCATED WITHIN AN A B 2097 AREA.
THE PROPOSED BUSINESS IS EVERYWHERE.
BREWERY AND ITS MAIN BEER MANUFACTURING FACILITY IS LOCATED IN ORANGE, CALIFORNIA.
TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE TYPE 23 SMALL BEER MANUFACTURING LICENSE, EXISTING BREWERIES ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE A MAX OF SIX DUPLICATE LICENSES WITH RETAIL PRIVILEGES KNOWN AS TASTING ROOMS. THESE TASTING ROOMS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE MANUFACTURING ON SITE AND ARE ONLY PERMITTED TO SERVE AND PROVIDE OFFSITE SALE OF THEIR BREWED BEER.
THIS NEW TASTING ROOM WILL NOT CONTAIN BEER MANUFACTURING AND ONLY SERVES IN SELL EVERYWHERE BEER.
THE NEW TASTING ROOM WILL BE OPERATING FROM 7:00 AM TO 11:00 PM THEY ARE PROPOSING COFFEE SERVICE FROM SEVEN 7:00 AM TO 11:00 AM AND WILL BEGIN ON-PREMISE BEER SERVICE FROM 11:00 AM TO 11:00 PM WITH LAST CALL AT 10 30 OFF-PREMISE BEER SALES WILL TAKE PLACE AT ALL HOURS AND IS NOT PERMITTED TO BE CONSUMED ON SITE.
THERE WILL BE MERCHANDISE SALES AND PRE-PACKAGED SHELF STABLE SNACKS ON THE PREMISES WITH THE AVAILABILITY TO BRING IN OUTSIDE FOOD AND HAVE OUTSIDE FOOD DELIVERED.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 137 SEATS RANGING FROM TABLE SEATING, FIXED BENCHES, AND BOOTS WITH A 17 PERSON BAR TOP.
THERE WILL ALSO BE A 278 SQUARE FEET OF, UM, BICYCLE STORAGE LOCATED WITHIN THE TENANT SPACE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PATRONS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
THE SITE WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH SECURITY CAMERAS, LIGHTING AND URBAN ETIQUETTE SIGNAGE TO ENSURE THE MINIMIZATION OF ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPERATION OF THE PROJECT TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE SURVEILLANCE, UH, SYSTEM WILL BE PROVIDED BY DYNA MARK, WHICH WILL BE, WHICH WILL PROVIDE REAL-TIME SURVEILLANCE AND RECORDING VIDEO.
THE INSTALLATION OF CAMERAS ON THE PROPERTY IS INTENDED TO DETER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, INCLUDE INCLUDING LOITERING AND PROMOTE SAFETY.
TO ENSURE ALL SAFETY MEASURES ARE ADDRESSED.
EMPLOYEES WILL UNDERGO THE STATE MANDATED RESPONSIBLE BEVERAGE SERVICE TRAINING AND ADDITIONAL CONFLICT AND AWARENESS TRAINING TO ENSURE THE BUSINESS IS FOLLOWING SAFE ALCOHOL SERVICE PROTOCOLS.
IN ADDITION, THE TASTING ROOM WILL FUNCTION AS A COMMUNITY-BASED TUB DESIGNED TO WELCOME ALL INDIVIDUALS AND WILL BE CHILD-FRIENDLY, WELCOMING ALL FAMILIES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CUP, WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING STATISTICS FROM LONG BEACH FROM THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN CENSUS TRACTED 5768.01, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR ON SALE ALCOHOL LICENSES AND TWO OFF SALE.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 17 ON SALE AND THREE OFF SALE ACTIVE ALCOHOL LICENSES IN THIS TRACT.
THE SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN POLICE REPORTING DISTRICT 334, WHICH IS NOT DESIGNATED AS A HIGH CRIME AREA.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF RESIDENTIAL USES AND IS LOCATED WITHIN 600 FEET OF ELEMENTARY OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO POLICE DEPARTMENT SERVICE CALLS ATTRIBUTED TO THIS SITE, WHICH WERE BOTH FOR AUDIBLE BURGLAR ALARMS. COMMENTS FROM PD RELATED TO THE PROPOSED USE AND ITS PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AND ELEMENTARY
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SCHOOL AND, UM, THE HIGH CONCENTRATION OF A BC LICENSES IN THIS AREA.TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WE MUST DETERMINE IF THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT AND CARRIES OUT THE GENERAL PLAN.
IN ALL NOTING REGULATIONS, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DEEMED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING CENTERS AND CORRIDORS GENERAL PLAN PLACE TYPE AND THE CNP ZONING DISTRICT.
BY ESTABLISHING A BUSINESS THAT WILL PROVIDE A SERVICE AND GATHERING PLACE THAT WILL MEET CONSUMER DAILY NEEDS AND BE CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL USES, CREATING A WALKABLE AND MULTIMODAL COMMUNITY.
IN ADDITION, WE MUST ALSO CONSIDER IF THE PROPOSED USE WILL AFFECT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH, GENERAL WELFARE, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE MUST BE MINDFUL OF THE SENSITIVE RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WHILE THE PROPOSED USE IS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF RESIDENTS AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
THESE CONDITIONS INCLUDE MEASURES PERTAINING TO SECURITY, NOISE, EMPLOYEE TRAINING, AND ALCOHOL SERVICE, LOITERING, LIGHTING, AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
BY IMPOSING THESE CONDITIONS, THE PROPOSED USE SHALL OPERATE IN A MANNER THAT IS SENSITIVE TO THE SURROUNDING USES AND RESIDENT.
FURTHERMORE, SPECIFIC FINDINGS MUST BE MET FOR THE ALCOHOL USE ITSELF, INCLUDING PARKING, PARKING, COMPLIANCE, SECURITY MEASURES, A BC LICENSE OVER CONCENTRATION AND LOCATING ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN 500 FEET OF A PUBLIC SCHOOL OR PARK.
THE PROJECT SITE IS CURRENT, HAS CURRENTLY NO DEDICATED OFF STREET PARKING AND IS LOCATED WITHIN AB 2097, WHICH PROHIBITS THE REQUIREMENT OF PARKING MINIMUMS ON NEW USES THAT ARE CLOSED TO PROXIMITY IN HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT.
PURSUANT TO STATE LAW AS CONDITIONED, THE PROJECT SITE IS INSURED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SECURITY LIGHTING AND VIDEO SURVEILLANCE THAT WILL COVER ALL CRUCIAL AREAS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT CAUSE A NET INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF EXISTING A BC LICENSES AND WILL ONLY CONSIST OF A CHANGE OF LICENSE TYPE FROM TYPE 41 TO A TYPE 23.
LASTLY, THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN LESS THAN 200 FEET OF A PUBLIC SCHOOL.
UM, THE GRANTING OF THE CUP IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO IMPACT THE NEARBY SCHOOL AS THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WILL ENSURE A LIMIT OF ALCOHOL SALES AND CONSUMPTION WITHIN THE BOUNDARY.
UM, LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 21.2 5.209 ALLOWS THE PROXIMITY FINDINGS TO BE WAIVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, PROVIDED THAT THE SITE IS OPERATED IN A MANNER THAT STILL PROVIDES PROTECTION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.
THIS PROJECT WOULD QUALIFY FOR AN EXEMPTION UNDER CQA AS A CLASS ONE EXISTING FACILITIES.
ALL REQUIRED NOTICING HAS BEEN COMPLETED FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE COMMENTS RECEIVED WERE ONE IN OPPOSITION AND ONE IN SUPPORT.
THE GENERAL OPPOSITION RECEIVED WAS FOR THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USES AND BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT AND EVERYWHERE BE A REPRESENTATIVES ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT IS DEREK BERNHAM AND DANIEL MUNOZ FOR EVERYWHERE BEER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAD A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
THE EXISTING, UH, CUPX AND THE TYPE 41 THERE, THIS, THIS, UM, APPLICANT WILL BE SHARING THE FACILITY WITH THESE OTHER TWO USES.
THE EXISTING BUSINESS WILL BE MOVING OUT IN, UM, AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND, UM, THEY'RE RELOCATING SO THIS NEW USE WILL BE THE ONLY ONE WITHIN THE TENANTS PIECE.
AND IS THERE ANY REMODELING TO THE EXISTING FACILITY THAT'S ANTICIPATED ISSUES? YES.
SO THERE'LL BE NO MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE, BUT MINOR INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS CONSISTING OF, UM, ADDITION OF THE BENCHES AND, UM, FIXED SEATINGS.
AND DID WE HAVE ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, AND RELATES TO THE OUTSIDE PATIO IN THE BACK ON HOURS OF OPERATION OR, YES.
SO WE HAVE THE OUTDOOR PATIO CLOSING AT, I BELIEVE, UM, GIMME ONE SECOND.
10:00 PM SO THE PATIO WILL BE OPEN FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM CORRECT.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION WITH ANYTHING? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
I DID, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, EXCUSE ME, ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
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THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ASKED THEM FOR OR IS THAT, UH, SET BY THE BUSINESS? UM, YES.SO THOSE ARE THE HOURS THAT THEY PROPOSED.
UM, THEY'RE WELCOME TO SELECT OTHER HOURS AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WILL HAVE THOSE HOURS IN PLACE.
WE CAN INCLUDE, UM, WORDING AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT THEY CAN BE MODIFIED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE THE OUTSIDE LIMITS OF THE HOURS THEY COULD OPERATE.
THEY MAY DECIDE TO OPERATE FEWER HOURS, BUT THESE ARE THE HOURS THAT THEIR PERMIT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE.
WELL, I WAS TALKING ABOUT, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, TOTAL BUSINESS HOURS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS HAVING THEM CLOSE AT 10 30 OR 11.
UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE IS BARS TEND TO BE OPEN LATER THAN THAT.
UH, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S FLEXIBILITY IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, BUSINESS DECIDES TO GO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT HOURS.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO ANYTHING WITH THE OUTDOOR PATIO HOURS.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA FOR THE SAKE OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE AROUND THERE.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, SO YOU CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE AS A COMMISSION AND YOU MAY WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
I WILL SAY RETRO ROW, NOT UNLIKE BELMONT SHORE, NOT UNLIKE PLACES IN ALAMEDOS BEACH.
WE DO HAVE, UM, BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE MUCH LATER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A VERY HIGH, UH, VOLUME OF, UH, COMPLAINTS AND CONFLICT BETWEEN, UM, BUSINESS AND NEARBY RESIDENTS.
SO ON THE STAFF SIDE, WE'RE ALWAYS FINE TRYING TO FIND THE PERFECT BALANCE AND THAT BALANCE MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF WHAT EXISTS OUT THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, THE APPLICANT CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, BUT IT'S NOT A BAR.
SO IT'S A TASTING OPERATION AND I'M ALL FOR US HAVING BARS, BUT WHEN WE HAVE A BAR WHICH HAS MUCH LONGER HOURS, WE ALSO HAVE MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS FOR SECURITY AND WHICH DOORS CAN BE OPENED AND CLOSED.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE, THE RIGHT USE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE MYSELF.
UH, I'M ONE OF THE FOUR PARTNERS FROM EVERYWHERE BEER.
UH, AND WE'RE JUST WANTED TO SAY WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO COME TO LONG BEACH.
MYSELF AND MY WIFE AND SON BOTH LIVE IN LONG BEACH RIGHT BY THE PROJECT, UH, FOURTH AND MOLINO AND OUR OTHER PARTNER STEFAN, ALSO A LONG BEACH RESIDENT.
SO JUST QUICKLY WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED.
WE HOPE TO, YOU KNOW, BE A PART OF THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY THAT WE SORT OF ALREADY ARE.
AND, UH, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING ABOUT THE BUSINESS SINCE WE DID TALK ABOUT THE HOURS, UH, STAFF IS SAYING THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE PLANNED HOURS FOR HOURS OPERATION TILL 11 O'CLOCK.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF YOUR NORMAL OPERATIONS, OR, OR, SURE.
I I THINK THAT ELEVEN'S ACTUALLY A LATER OPERATING HOUR FOR US.
WE CLOSE AT 10 CURRENTLY AT OUR LOCATION, AND THAT'S POINTED.
YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S A GREAT TIME FOR US TO CLOSE.
WE'RE A FAMILY SPOT, LIKE WE MENTIONED, AND IT'S, IT KIND OF KEEPS THE CUSTOMERS TO THE POINT WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE.
SO WE, WE ACTUALLY ENJOY CLOSING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND FOR OUR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEER ONLY, SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE NOT REALLY A LATE NIGHT SPOT ANYWAYS, SO WE WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE 11, UM, AS A PROPOSAL.
COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ MOND, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, TELL US ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, LIKE YOUR CONCEPT AND WHAT YOU WISH TO.
UM, SO THE FOUR OF US, UH, ALL WORKED TOGETHER FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, HAD A MUCH LARGER BREWERY.
ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE DECIDED TO START OUR OWN PROJECT CALLED EVERYWHERE BEER COMPANY.
UM, AND IT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUT OF A DESIRE TO KIND OF CREATE A SPACE THAT WE WANTED TO BE AT.
SO THE BEER INDUSTRY IS, UH, IT'S A SMALL INDUSTRY AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, USUALLY VERY TARGETED TOWARD A SPEC, TOWARD A SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC.
AND WE REALLY WANTED TO CREATE MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, A BRIGHT WELCOMING AND INVITING SPACE IN THE CRAFT BEER WORLD.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SET OUT TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO DO.
AND NORMALLY THERE WOULD BE A TASTING AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE HAD THE BOAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LUCKY WE'RE GONNA WAVE THIS EVENING.
I'D LIKE TO BE ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT THAT HAS NOT HISTORICALLY HAPPENED.
WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SWING BY ANYTIME FOR A TASTING
UM, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS PART OF A EXISTING RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, SO THERE THEY WILL BE SUPPORTING EACH OTHER, THE RETAIL OPERATIONS IN THE TASTING ROOM.
AND SO THEIR HOURS SEEM TO BE PRETTY APPROPRIATE TO WHAT, WHAT CURRENTLY FUNCTIONS IN THERE.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
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UH, GOOD EVENING.I'M A 26 YEAR RESIDENT, UH, 2 28 AND A HALF LAVERNE AVENUE DOWN IN THE SHORE.
UM, MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO LONG BEACH BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT IT IS.
UM, WE'VE RAISED OUR KIDS HERE, SON JUST GRADUATED FROM LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE, UM, AND EVERYWHERE OPENED UP A YEAR AND A HALF AGO NEAR, UH, WHERE I WORK AS A TEACHER IN ANAHEIM.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT THE PRODUCT AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, A PRODUCT OF THAT QUALITY WITHIN THIS YEAR AND A HALF.
THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN RECOGNIZED BY MULTIPLE INDUSTRY, UH, PUBLICATIONS AS ONE OF THE BEST NEW BREWERIES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT IS IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, GETTING TO KNOW THE FOLKS THAT WORK THERE AND THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'VE CREATED.
UM, IT WAS INTERESTING THE, UH, UP ON THE SCREEN, IT TALKED ABOUT THE, THE FAMILY FRIENDLY, UH, ASPECT, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I WAS JUST AT A, A WINTER CELEBRATION EVENT LAST WEEKEND AT THEIR CURRENT SITE, AND YOU COULDN'T COUNT THE NUMBER OF STROLLERS THAT WERE THERE AND FAMILIES JUST SITTING TOGETHER VISITING WITH EACH OTHER AS A COMMUNITY, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I THINK THIS WOULD FIT PERFECTLY WITHIN THIS RETRO, UH, ROW CORRIDOR.
AND BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM WE HAVE HERE IN LONG BEACH, IT'S AN EASY BUS RIDE FOR ME FROM SECOND STREET TO HOP OFF AND, AND VISIT.
SO I THINK REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER COME FORWARD TO SPEAK AT, AT A, A COMMISSION MEETING IN LONG BEACH, BUT IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY SERVE IS ONE THING, BUT THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE, THEY ARE TO BRING THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND BE PART OF THAT.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, UM, UH, BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT, THAT WERE THE REASON WHY WE DECIDED TO RAISE OUR FAMILY IN LONG BEACH BECAUSE OF, OF WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DO.
AND SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, APPROVES THE APPLICATION.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? HELLO, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, I'M OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, CUP, UH, AND FROM TWO POINTS, UH, I AM A BOTH PATRON OF, UH, EVERYWHERE BEER AND ALSO A COMMUNITY PARTNER OF EVERYWHERE BEER.
UH, SO AS A PATRON, I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING THAT YOU ENCOUNTER WHEN YOU WALK INTO THEIR ORANGE LOCATION, WHICH I KNOW WILL GET REPLICATED IN THE LONG BEACH LOCATION, IS YOU'RE GREETED WITH A SMILE AND A REMINDER THAT THAT IS A SAFE SPACE THAT ALLOWS INCLUSIVITY OF THE FOLKS WHO ENTER INTO THAT SPACE.
UH, THERE'S NO INNUMERABLE WAY TO STATE THE BENEFITS OF FEELING BOTH PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY SAFE IN A LOCATION.
UH, SO I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT AS SOMETHING THAT THEY TRULY, TRULY FEEL IN THE CORE OF THEIR BUSINESS AS AN ORGANIZATION.
UH, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT AS PART OF A BUSINESS MODEL, SOMETIMES IT IS AN AFTERTHOUGHT INTO HOW YOU FIT INTO A COMMUNITY.
AND I FEEL LIKE FOR THE FOLKS THAT OWN EVERYWHERE AND THAT RUN EVERYWHERE AND THAT WORK IT EVERYWHERE, UH, IT IS NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
IT IS A FORETHOUGHT AND IT'S A MODEL THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN EXIST IN A COMMUNITY AND BE A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY AND HELP BENEFIT THAT COMMUNITY TO THRIVE AS WELL.
UM, I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR THE FREE TO CINEMA, WHICH IS LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN SANTA ANA.
IT'S ORANGE COUNTY'S ONLY ART HOUSE, UH, CINEMA, UH, EVERYWHERE.
HAVE BEEN A FANTASTIC PARTNER WITH US SINCE THE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY HOSTED TWO EVENTS AT THEIR SITE WITH THEM.
UH, THE WINTER WONDERLAND EVENT THAT GRANT JUST MENTIONED WITH YOU.
UH, WE HAD A 15 FOOT, OR I BELIEVE 20 FOOT INFLATABLE SCREEN SO THAT, UH, FAMILIES COULD ATTEND AND WATCH A MOVIE AT NO COST TO THEM AS WELL.
UM, AND THE, THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF HAS BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THE AWARENESS THAT, UH, EVERYWHERE HAS BROUGHT TO US.
UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PATRONS THAT COME INTO THE THEATER ITSELF SOLELY BECAUSE EVERYWHERE IS SERVED AT THE THEATER, UH, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO IN CHANGE GO TO EVERYWHERE BECAUSE OF THAT PARTNERSHIP THAT'S BEEN BUILT AND THE LARGE FAITH THAT THEY HAVE IN ENSURING THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE SAFE SPACES.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS SEEING THEM? WE'LL LOOK TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK BEHIND THE RAIL.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE IF WE COULD HAVE THE QUESTION PLEASE.
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MOTION CARRIES.I BELIEVE THAT COVERS ALL OF OUR REGULAR BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PODIUM
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Planning Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]
IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON NON AGENDIZED ITEMS, SEEING NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER.WE'LL ASK IF WE HAVE ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON-AG ITEMS, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FUNCTION AT THIS TIME.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
COMMISSIONERS, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR COMMENTS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.I WANTED TO ASK THE STAFF ABOUT THE 91 FREEWAY EXPANSION PROJECT THAT'S GOING IN FRONT OF THE GATEWAY COG.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY, UM, IT, IT, WHAT, WHAT KINDS OF, UH, INTERACTION AND, AND AND DOES THE CITY SUPPORT THAT PROJECT DO WE KNOW? AND JUST REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE, UM, JUST TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE BROWN ACT AND THAT THIS IS NON AGENDIZED, WE, WE HAVE TO BE VERY LIMITED ON A, A QUICK RESPONSE AND, UM, AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT THAT ISSUE IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THIS BODY.
SO A QUICK RESPONSE I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT I WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR THAT WE DON'T KIND OF TRAMPLE OVER THAT INTO BROWN ACT TERRITORY.
SO VERY DIRECTLY, WE DON'T AS A CITY HAVE A POSITION ON THAT PROJECT.
UM, BUT IF THE CITY WERE TO TAKE A POSITION, UM, THAT WOULD FILTER UP THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE ALICE AND MYSELF OR, OR THE STAFF HERE ON THIS DEPARTMENT.
UH, JUST TO THE BROWN ACT QUESTION.
AM I ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THIS OR DO I NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT? YEAH, I THINK SO.
UM, THE THINGS THAT ARE BEFORE THIS BODY, THE IDEA IS THAT WE GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE AND TO HAVE PUBLIC DISCOURSE.
SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, IDEALLY LOOKING TO STAFF TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN THE BODY'S JURISDICTION FOR A COMMENT OR TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA WOULD PROBABLY BE THE NEXT, UM, STEP.
OR ALSO ASKING STAFF WHAT JURISDICTIONAL BODY IT'S IN FRONT OF SO THAT YOU KNOW WHERE TO BRING THAT COMMENT.
UH, CHRISTOPHER, I DID SEND IT IN TO YOU.
I HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU SENT COMMENTS.
I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I HAVEN'T READ THEM TODAY.
UM, BUT I WILL, UH, READ THEM AND, UH, GET BACK TO YOU.
I CAN ALSO HELP YOU CONNECT, UM, WITH THE ELECTIVES AND, AND WITH THE STAFF OVER THERE IN, UM, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
AND THEN I HAD A, UH, AND FOR A QUESTION FOR STAFF AS WELL, HAS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY UPDATE OR PROGNOSIS ON WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A A, A, A BRIEFING ON THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IMPACTS, UH, IN THE SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR? YES, WE DO HAVE A DATE FOR THAT IF TALK AMONGST YOURSELF.
WILL I FIND THAT, BUT ONLY ABOUT AGENDIZED ITEMS?
JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS ON THE, ON THE RADAR.
SO IT IS JANUARY 18TH, UM, AT THE LOCATION OF WHEREVER OUR JANUARY 18TH MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD.
COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY A, A, A BLESSED AND WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AND A, UM, THE BEST OF HOLIDAYS AND A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR.
SO, 'CAUSE I WON'T BE SEEING YOU UNTIL JANUARY 18TH.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR WORK THIS YEAR.
I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TIME OFF OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
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