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UM, UM, I CLERK YOU, UH, PLEASE.
UH, WE HAVE A FOREMAN, CHAIRMAN, CHARLES WHITEHEAD HERE, VICE CHAIRMAN HENRY TOVAR.
UH, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO RECEIVE, UH, FILE A MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 18TH FROM, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE OR SECOND? SECOND.
I'LL TAKE ROLL ON THE MINUTES.
THE BOARD OF EXAMINERS APPEALS AND CONDEMNATION ESTABLISHED BY LONG CODE SECTION 18 PROVIDE TO REVIEW FINDING, MAKE DETERMINATION TO CONSTITUTING, UH, PUBLIC.
THE BOARD ALSO ACCESS HEARING OFFICERS AND CONDUCTS ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING FOR APPEALS OF ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS, ASSESSES AND APPEALS OF DISABLED ACCESS, UH, CASES.
THE BOARD CONDUCTS A HEARING IN COURT TO ROBERTS RULE OF WATER.
FOR EACH ITEM, THE CLERK WILL READ THE CASE NUMBER AND PROPERTY ADDRESS.
THE PROPERTY OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE MAY THEN COME TO THE PODIUM.
STAFF WILL PRESENT THE CASE REPORT AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AT THAT TIME, THE OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD.
SHOULD YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY AT ISSUE.
AND, UH, ALL STAFF, APPELLANTS, WITNESSES AND OTHERS PRESENT WISHING TO TESTIFY ON AN ITEM AND ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE RISE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
YOU DO SOLEMN SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU SHALL GIVE IN THIS HEARING SHALL BE THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.
UH, MADAM, PLEASE READ THE FIRST AGENDA.
ITEM 7 9 4 4 DASH ZERO EIGHT DASH 2 3 16 40 EAST 46TH STREET.
UM, 1640 TO 46 EAST SEVENTH STREET.
I APOLOGIZE, LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA, UH, RON AND MEN FUTO FAMILY TRUST OWNERS CCE, CASE NUMBER CESB 2 8 6 9 4 5 SUBSTANDARD BUILDING CASE.
RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION ON THE AGENDA? YES, MR. TRIM.
UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE CONCLUDE THE HEARING, ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AS A BOARD FINDINGS, DETERMINE THAT THE TWO STORY FOUR UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING AND THE ATTACHED FOUR PART GARAGE, A A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1640 TO 1646 SEVENTH STREET IS SUBSTANDARD IN A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
THE NEW OWNER TO DEMOLISH OR REHABILITATE THE PROPERTY BY 1 15 20 24 FOR DEFINING DATED 9 18 20 23.
ORDER THE NEW OWNER TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE IN THE SAFE, CLEAN, AND SECURE MATTER UNTIL LOCATIONS ARE COMPLETED AND CLOSE THE CURRENT CASE, OPEN A NEW CASE AND NOTIFY THE OWNERS OF THE EXISTING VIOLATIONS.
ALSO ON 9 18 20 23 CONDITION FOR GRANTING A 60 DAY EXTENSION FOR THE ER, REQUIRE THE OWNER THE DESIGN AND OBTAIN CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
SUBMIT PROOF OF NOTIFICATION PROVIDED TO THE TENANTS REGARDING THE REHABILITATION OF STRUCTURE, THE NEED TO VACATE AN EXPLANATION OF THE RELOCATION BENEFITS.
AS TO THIS MEETING, THE OWNER HAS
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NOT PROVIDED A NOTICE TO VACATE TENANTS IMPACTED BY THE WORK AND HAS SUBMITTED CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR A PLAN.I ALSO WANNA CLARIFY THAT, UH, DURING THE LAST, THIS PAST WEEKEND, THERE WAS AN ACTUAL OFFICIAL CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP.
SO THAT'S WHY THE VERBIAGE MIS RECOMMENDATION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UH, TYPICALLY WE WILL CLOSE OUR CASE AND START A NEW CASE AND, UM, OWNERSHIP CHANGES.
BUT BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE ARE THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS AT THE PROPERTY, AT THE STRUCTURE, UH, SO WE CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND YOUR FINDINGS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU WANNA DECIDE ON.
BUT WE'LL, AT THE CITY SIDE, WORK WITH THE NEW OWNERS TO GET HOUSE SYSTEM GETTING, UH, YES.
UM, IT SAYS THAT NO OWNER HAS PROVIDED A NOTICE TO THEIR CASE.
SO THE STAFF WILL CLARIFY THAT IN THE REPORT AS WELL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN FLOOR.
I'M THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING INSPECTOR, INSPECTOR FOR THE MULTI-UNIT RENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT, AND ALSO THE INSPECTOR OF THE SUBJECT CASE.
SO ON JUNE 23RD, 2023, UH, COENEN ENFORCEMENT RECEIVED A COMPLAINT OF A POSSIBLE VEHICLE COLLISION WITH A STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AT FOUR, UH, 1640 TO 1646 AND SEVENTH STREET.
ON JUNE 26TH, STAFF CONDUCTED AN INSPECTION AND OBSERVED EXPANSIVE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AND EXPOSE STRUCTURAL FRAMING, WHICH REVEALED A SIGNIFICANT TURBINE AND DRY ROCK DAMAGE DAMAGES THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE SUPPORTING STRUCTURAL FRAME MEMBER WALL DEAD PLATE.
AND, BUT THE ACCESS TO THE INTERIOR UNIT WAS NOT GRANTED ON JULY THE SEVENTH NOTICE OF DECORATION OF PROPERTY TO BE SUBSTANDARD WAS ISSUED AT THE TIME OF THE INSPECTION.
THE STRUCTURE WAS OCCUPIED BY TENANTS.
AND A REVIEW OF THE RECORD REVEAL REVEALED THAT NO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED ON JULY FOUR.
ON, UH, JULY THE 13TH, UM, PROPERTY OWNER, MS.
AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO HER THAT THE LICENSE ENGINEER BE HIRED TO COMPLETE THE STRUCTURAL SAFETY ASSESSMENT OF THE STRUCTURE, DETERMINE IF THE VACATING THE BUILDING WAS REQUIRED, AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT BE ISSUING NOTICE TO VACATE AT THAT TIME.
UM, JULY 26TH, 2023 CONTRACTOR, MR. NOELLE, DR.
ALIAS, CALLED UH, INFORMING STAFF THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HIRED TO HANDLE THE PROJECT AND ENGINEER HAS BEEN OBTAINED TO ASSESS THE EXTENT OF STRUCTURAL AND WILL BE PREPARING DRAWING WILL REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURES.
UM, OFFICE THE SECOND COENEN ENFORCEMENT WAS PROVIDE A COPY OF THAT REPORT, UM, SEPTEMBER THE 18TH.
THE FOURTH GRANTED THE OWNER AN EXTENSION TO COMPLETE FACILITATION AND DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY AND CONTINUE THE CASE FOR 60 DAYS TO SCHEDULE MEETING ON NOVEMBER THE 13TH.
AS A CONDITION OF EXTENSION, THE BOARD REQUIRED THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION DRAWING FOR RE FOR THE REPAIR OF STRUCTURES FOR PLAN CHECK, PLAN CHECK, UH, APPROVAL, SUBMIT PROOF OF NOTIFICATION.
AND PRO, UH, PROVIDES YOU THE TENANT, NN REGARDING THE REHABILITATION OF THE STRUCTURE THAT NEED TO VACATE THE EXPLANATION, UH, OF THEIR RELOCATION BENEFIT, AND TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE IN A SAFE PAIN AND SECURE MANNER UNTIL THE REHABILITATION IS COMPLETE.
ON OCTOBER 9TH, CONSTRUCTION, DRAWING WERE SUBMITTED TO THE BUILDING AND SAFETY FOR REVIEW, APPROVAL, AND PERMIT FOR THE STRUCTURAL ALTERATION AND REPAIR OF THE PROPERTY.
OCTOBER 17TH, OWNER PROVIDE UPDATE OF THE EVICTION OF TENANT IMPACTED BY THE WORK.
SHE STATED THAT THREE OUT OF HER FOUR UNITS HAVE REFUSED TO, TO
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MOVE EVEN AFTER OFFERING TO COVER RELOCATION EXTENT.SHE'S MOVING FORWARD WITH FORMAL LEGAL EVICTION PROCESS.
SHE WAS ADVISED, SHE WAS ADVISED BY THE STAFF TO PROVIDE APPROVAL OF THAT EVICTION NOTICES TO THE TENANT.
OCTOBER 25TH, THE OWNER CALLED TO INDICATING SHE WAS ADVISED THAT SHE COULD NOT PROCESS, UH, WITH, UH, A NO FAULT EVICTION TO THE TENANT BECAUSE SHE HAS NOT YET OBTAINED PLAN, CHECK, APPROVAL, AND PERMIT, AND INDICATING THAT, THAT HER TENANT ALSO HAS STOPPED PAYING THE RENT ON OCTOBER 20, UH, 31ST.
OH, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE PART.
UM, AND SHE ALSO NEEDED TO WAIT, UH, BEFORE SHE CAN PROCESS THE EVICTION, THEREFORE, YOU WOULD DELAY THE REPAIR.
SO, OCTOBER 31ST THAT VISITED PROPERTY AND SHE HAD FIND THE PROPERTY TO BE CLEAN AND THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW WAS STILL PENDING.
NOVEMBER 13TH, THE BOARD MEETING WAS CANCELED TO JULY FORUM AND THE HEARING WAS POSTPONED TO TODAY.
DECEMBER 11TH, UH, BOARD, BOARD MEETING, UM, ON NOVEMBER 30 30TH, STAFF FOLLOW UP ON THE CASE, FOUND THE PLAN CHECK WAS IN PROGRESS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ISSUED THEIR CORRECTIONS.
IN ADDITION, STAFF ALSO DISCOVERED THAT THE PROPERTY IS LISTED FOR SALE ON DECEMBER THE FOURTH.
OWNER IS STORE IS CLOSE TO THE STAFF THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SOLD ON NOVEMBER 29TH AND HAS PROVIDED A COPY OF THE CLOSING STATEMENT IN GRANTEE.
THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ASFA
SO AS OF TODAY, UH, DECEMBER 11TH, STAFF INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND FOUND, FOUND IT NOT BEING MAINTAINED.
PLAN REVIEW IS STILL IN PROGRESS.
CORRECTION ISSUED BY PLANNING OR ISSUED BY PLANNING, BUILDING AND FIRE.
AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO CONTACT WITH THE NEW OWNER.
THIS CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
AND THE PHOTO PRESENTED BEHIND ME IS A IS PER TODAY'S FINDINGS.
ANY, UH, QUESTION, UH, UH, OF THE BOARD FROM MR. IS, IS THERE ANYONE HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER IN THIS CASE? NO.
CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER'S CARD FOR, UH, SEVENTH STREET AS AND IS IT, NO ONE IS HERE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
SO IF I MAY, NABIL BERRY, UH, I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE LIEN HOLDER FOR THE FRITOS.
BUT IN LIGHT OF THIS SALE TWO WEEKS AGO, WHICH WE WEREN'T, UH, ADVISED ABOUT UNTIL TODAY, UH, MY CLIENT NO NO LONGER HAS THE SECURITY INTEREST BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DUE ON SALE SITUATION.
SO WE PROBABLY WILL NOT BE MONITOR MONITORING THIS ANY LONGER AND DON'T HAVE AN INTEREST.
SO THAT GOES TO THE NEW OWNERS, RIGHT? YES.
AND, UH, SO THAT EVERYTHING JUST GETS TRANSFERRED OVER TO THEM AND YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH THEM NOW OR SO? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, AS SOON AS THE BOARD DECIDES WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE 'EM, UM, YOU CAN STILL GO AHEAD AND DECLARE THE SUBSTANDARD, UH, PROPERTY IN THE NUISANCE.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CLOSE THE CURRENT CASE, OPEN UP A NEW CASE, AND NOTIFY THE NEW OWNERSHIP OF THE, THE DECISION AND ALSO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME OF WHAT THE OLD OWNER WAS REQUIRED TO DO.
SO THIS IS THE CASE WHERE WE HAD THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD THE, THE STIPULATIONS FOR THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
BECAUSE THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS AND NOT KNOWING IF THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO EVICT THOSE TENANTS AND RELOCATION.
SO THEN, UH, CAN WE JUST BASICALLY, UM, I WANNA PUT THIS, UH, I MEAN, HOW DO WE LEGALLY DEAL WITH THIS? SO THE ISSUE BEFORE THE, UH, COMMISSION IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS BUILDING IS SUBSTANDARD.
THE COMMISSION GAVE A CONTINUANCE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, THE LAST HEARING WE HAD, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS IN OCTOBER, UM, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES
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NOT LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER, UH, WORK WAS DONE TO THE PROPERTY.IS THAT FAIR STATEMENT? NOT YET.
SO NO OTHER WORK WAS DONE AND THEY SUBMITTED ENGINEERING PLANS, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY SUBMITTED.
WE STILL UNDER REVIEW BY PLANNING, UM, BY PLANNING, BUILDING AND FIRE, AND ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS HAVE CORRECTION ON IT SO THAT THOSE, THAT'S THOSE SETS OF PLANS GET TO TURN BACK TO THE, UH, ENGINEER AND A CONTRACTOR FOR CORRECTIONS AND FOR ABOUT THEY ARE AT, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE HIRED BY THE NEW OWNER, I DO NOT KNOW.
OR IF THIS IS THE END OF THEIR SERVICE, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
SO, SO THE, SO, UM, THE BOARD, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE BOARD IS WHAT IS RELATING TO THE PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY OWNER.
NOW I UNDERSTAND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, BASED ON THIS REPRESENTATION FROM THE ATTORNEY FOR THE, YOU'RE THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER? NO, FOR THE FORMER PROPERTY.
SO THERE WAS SOME KIND OF SALE WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY.
NO ONE IS HERE FROM THE OLD PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.
SO THE BOARD CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, CAN DECIDE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR, AND TAKE IN THE FACT BASICALLY AS IF NO ONE SHOWED UP FOR THE HEARING, THEN WHAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT'S GOING TO DO IS THAT IT WILL NOTIFY THE NEW OWNER OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY.
UM, LEGALLY, AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THIS, ALL THIS INFORMATION WOULD'VE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE OLD OWNER TO THE NEW OWNER.
THE CITY IS NOT A PARTY TO THAT TRANSACTION.
SO, UM, THE BOARD SHOULD NOT CONSIDER THAT IN MAKING ITS DECISION AS TO THE OLD PROPERTY OWNER.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE EVERYTHING UP WITH THE NEW PROPERTY NUMBER.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND START ALL OVER AGAIN.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO DECIDE WHAT IT WANTS TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS THE SAME AND HAS CHANGED.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS THE TENANTS.
THE TENANTS ARE STILL LIVING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TENANTS ARE STILL THE SAME AND THEY'RE NOT, UH, GONNA BUDGET.
WELL, AND THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE, RIGHT? FOR THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.
AND, UM, SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT THERE.
UM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY, DOES THE NEW OWNER, UM, KNOW, OR WE DON'T KNOW CASES? YEAH, THEY'LL BE NOT.
SO AFTER THIS HEARING CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH THE NEW OWNER.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL PROVIDE, WE'LL GET ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO OBTAIN.
IS, IS THIS SALE DONE? IS IT ESCROW CLOSED OR IS IT JUST AS FAR YEAH, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE OF, I BELIEVE SO THEY HAVE RECORDED THE, UH, GRANTEE AND THROUGH OUR DATA TREE SYSTEM, THEIR NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED.
SO WE'RE ALMOST IN THE SAME MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M GOING TO YOU LEGALLY WISE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, SO WHAT BEFORE THE BOARD NOW IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS BILL MEETING OR THE STRUCTURE ON THIS PROPERTY SUB YOU'VE HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHAT THEIR DETERMINATION IS.
AND SO NOW THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD.
AND THEN EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE NEW OWNERSHIP, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT ONCE IT COMES TO YOU.
WELL THEN IN LIGHT OF THAT, I, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I WILL CALL BOTH, EXCUSE ME, MR. CHARLES WHITEHEAD.
THE NEW HONOR WILL RETAIN THE EXISTING ARCHITECT ENGINEER SO THAT THAT EXISTING ARCHITECT ENGINEER CAN JUST FINISH THE BUNCH OF PROCESS AND NOT START ALL OVER AGAIN.
BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO CONTACT THEM.
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MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU, UH, PLEASE READ THE SECOND ITEM? YES.CASE NUMBER 7 9 4 5 DASH EIGHT DASH 23 17 30 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD.
UH, LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA CIO, UNIVERSITY ATTENTION JEW HU OWNER CCE CASE NUMBER CE SB 2 8 6 8 8 2.
UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, CASE NUMBER 7 9 4 6 DASH ZERO EIGHT DASH 23 17 40 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD, LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA HANCO UNIVERSITY ATTENTION J HU HUME HAM, EXCUSE ME.
OWNER CE CASE NUMBER CESB 2 8 6 8 81 SUBSTANDARD BUILDING CASE.
GET A RECOMMENDATION ON THE ATTENDED ITEM? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NUMBER OF THE BOARD THE STAFF RECOMMENDS WE CONCLUDE THE HEARING, ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF BUILDING THIS.
THE BOARD FINDINGS DETERMINE THAT THE SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OF ATTACHED GARAGES, UH, LOCATED AT 1730, UH, LONG BEACH BOULEVARD IS SUBSTANDARD AND APPELLATE NUISANCE ORDER THE OWNER TO DEMOLISH OR REHABILITATE THE STRUCTURE, UH, BY 12 18 20 23 FOR THE FINDINGS DATED 9 18 20 23 AND ORDERED THE ORDERS TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE IN A SAFE, CLEAN, AND SECURE MANNER UNTIL THE DEMOLITION OR REHABILITATION IS COMPLETE.
AND ALSO 9 18 20 23 AS A CONDITION FOR GRANTING A 60 DAY TIME EXTENSION FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE WORK, THE BOARD REQUIRED THE OWNER TO OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT, INCLUDING S FROM THE SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS SCA, QM D FOR ASBESTOS REMOVAL BY 11 13 20 23.
AS OF TODAY'S MEETING, THE OWNER HAS RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, UH, AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, BUT HAS NOT OBTAINED A DEMOLITION PERMITS.
AND AS THAT, AS FOR THE, UM, MEETING HELD IN OCTOBER, UH, THE WAY WE BRIEFED IS TWO, UH, PARCELS 1730 AND 1740 WILL BE BRIEFED TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT THEY'RE CONJOINED ALMOST.
IT'S JUST DIFFERENT PARCEL, BUT THE EXACT SAME VIOLATIONS.
YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND CITY REPRESENTATIVES.
UM, AS, AS, UH, I WAS JUST TOLD YOU, UM, I'LL BE COVERING ITEM TWO AND FOUR TOGETHER.
SO, UH, I'M BUILDING, UH, PRINCIPAL BUILDING INSPECTOR JOHN MARTIN.
AND, UM, THERE IS THE DAYS THE WAY.
SO ON 6 21 20 23, CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF RECEIVED A COMPLAINT OF A STRUCTURED FIRE AT 1730 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD.
AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY REVEALED FIRE DAMAGE TO THE STRUCTURE.
THE STRUCTURE WAS FOUND TO BE VACANT ON 7 3 20 23.
CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF RECEIVED ANOTHER COMPLAINT OF AN ADDITIONAL FLYER AT 1730 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD.
AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY REVEALED EXTENSIVE FIRE DAMAGE TO THE STRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDED DAMAGE SUPPORTING STRUCTURAL FRAME MEMBERS, WALL STUDS, PLATES, HEADERS, CEILING JOINTS, ROOF DOOR AND WINDOWS.
A DO NOT OCCUPY NOTICE WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY WAS DECLARED TO BE SUBS BY A NOTICE DATED 7 3 20 23.
ON 7 27 20 23, CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF RECEIVED A CALL FROM MR. IMO AT K SAND WITH UH, CNC GROUP, THE OWNER'S CONTRACTOR WHO STATED THAT HE WOULD BE PERFORMING THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE AND WAS WORKING ON GETTING THE REQUIRED ENVIRONMENTAL TESTS DONE TO THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO ON 8 8 20 23.
MR. SANGEN KIM, THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF FOR THE PROGRESS UPDATE, AND THEN INDICATED A CHECK FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY WAS RECEIVED FORM THE DEMOLITION COPY OF THE LETTER FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY WAS PROVIDED A CODE ENFORCEMENT ON 8 14 20 23 PENDING 21 20 23.
CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF PERFORMED MONITORING INSPECTIONS AND NOTED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS SECURE AND FREE OF DEBRIS.
MR. NEIL INFORMED CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF THAT J AND R ENVIRONMENTAL WAS HIRED TO PERFORM THE LEAD AND ASBESTOS ABATEMENT OF, OF THE PROPERTY ON 9 18 20 23.
THE BOARD GRANTED THE OWNERS AN EXTENSION TO COMPLETE THE REHABILITATION OR DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY AND CONTINUED THE CASE FOR 60 DAYS TO THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING ON 11 13 20 23.
AS A CONDITION OF THE EXTENSION, THE BOARD REQUIRED THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SUBMIT THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, AN ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT TO THE SC A QMD, OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT, AND TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE IN A SAFE, CLEAN, AND SECURE MANNER.
UNTIL THE REHABILITATION OR DEMOLITION WAS COMPLETED, THE
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MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUS ON 2023 WAS WAITING ON CLEARANCE FROM THE ON 10 24, 20 23 MR. YO INFORMED CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF THAT S-C-A-Q-M-D HAD GIVEN THE FINAL APPROVAL AND THAT THE ABATEMENT PROCESS HAD BEGUN ON 10 20 23.ON 10 25, 20 23, CODE ENFORCEMENT INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND NOTED WORKERS WERE PERFORMING THE ABATEMENT.
UH, AND THEN ON THE, THE 11 13 20 23 BOARD MEETING WAS CANCELED DUE TO LACK OF A QUORUM.
AND THE HEARING WAS POSTPONED TO THE BOARD'S 12 11 20 23 MEETING ON 11 27, 20 23.
CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF PERFORMED A FOLLOW UP MONITORING INSPECTION AND NOTED THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS SECURE, THE EXTERIOR PLASTIC SHEETING WAS REMOVED AND THE ABATEMENT WAS COMPLETED, AS WELL AS NO WEEDS OR DEBRIS AROUND THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE, UH, HAD ANOTHER MONITORING INSPECTION THIS MORNING, UM, NOTED BY THE PHOTOS BEHIND ME WERE TAKEN TODAY, PROPERTY IS IN ORDER AS FAR AS CLEAN, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS AND WEEDS.
UM, AND AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, WE LOOKED IN THE SYSTEM AND AS OF TODAY, THERE'S STILL NO, NO DEMO PERMIT HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR, UM, REFLECTED IN OUR SYSTEM.
UH, SO THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND ION I HAVE A QUESTION, JOHN, TO REFRESH MY MEMORY 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS SINCE WE FIRST COVERED THIS.
UH, THE OWNERS HAVE CHOSEN TO DEMOLISH THIS PROPERTY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T, THEY HAVEN'T SEEN A DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUEST COME OVER? WE HAVEN'T.
THEY'VE DONE SOME OF THE PREPARATION WORK, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WE'RE SAYING THE, THE, THE ASBESTOS OR, OR THAT ABATEMENT.
THEY HAD TO HAVE TO CONTAIN AND REMOVE THAT BEFORE THEY COULD START A DEMO.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA SPREAD IT OUT IN HERE.
UM, BUT, UM, WE WOULD, WE HAD HOPED THAT THEY WOULD CONCURRENTLY, UH, HAVE THE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
SO INSTEAD OF
SO YEAH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ISSUE US ANY DEMO PERMIT UNLESS WE GET ALL THAT REMOVED.
BUT OUR STAFF MISUNDERSTOOD THAT AS A, JUST DISCONNECTING THE SERVICE.
SO CURRENTLY WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE, UH, WORK FROM, UH,
AND WE HAVE REQUESTED TO THE, UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH UTILITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE WERE SUCCESS TO RECEIVE THE RESPONSE FROM, UH, GAS DEPARTMENT, BUT NOT THE WATER DEPARTMENT LIKE MOUT NUMEROUS TIMES.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING THAT, BUT AS FAR AS THE GAS METER, THEY'RE GONNA ARRANGE, UH, UH, INSPECTOR AND THEN, UH, THE PERSONNEL TO INSPECT TOGETHER AND PLAN A, A GAME PLAN TO REMOVE THE, UH, THE METER OFF OF THE COFFEE.
THOSE TWO UTILITIES WERE RECENTLY COMBINED, RIGHT? UH, THE WATER AND GAS ARE, ARE ALL, UH, YOU KNOW, UNDER ONE DEPARTMENT IN LONG BEACH NOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ONLY FIGHT BACK US, UH, TO US JUST SAYING IT'S JUST ME THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO SEND SOMEBODY TO, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, CAN WE GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT? I KNOW THERE WAS, IF HE APPLIES FOR ITEM, THERE WAS AN ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL WHERE THOSE TWO, UH, UTILITIES WERE GOING TO BE COMBINED IN ONE DEPARTMENT.
AND I THINK IT PASSED, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HAS HAPPENED YET.
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UH, YEAH, I GOT A LOT OF MAIL FROM THE CITY ED COMBINED.IT, IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
YOU ONLY HAVE TO GO TO ONE DEPARTMENT GET, SO DID YOU SAY THAT YOUR UM, POWER IS GONNA RETURN OFF ON THE 20TH? I BELIEVE, UH, ACTUALLY IT'S A CONNECTION.
THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT AWAY SO THEY CAN BE READY WITH THEM.
SO YOU ALREADY HAD THE POWER DISCONNECTED.
POWER AND ALL THE UTILITIES, THEY'RE ALL DISCONNECTED, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONE FROM THE PARK.
THE METER IS THE ONE THAT PHYSICAL METER IS THAT REMOVED OFF OF THE PROPERTY.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THOSE THREE DISCONNECTED BEFORE YOU CAN, UM, UH, APPLY FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT.
WE ASK IF WE CAN AT LEAST GET THE PERMIT SO THAT WE CAN BE READY FOR THIS MEETING.
BUT THEY, THEY HAVE TO GET ALL THAT REMOVED.
DO WE KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES THAT, HOW LONG THE PROCESS TAKES? THE DEMO PERMIT CAN BE DONE OVER THE COUNTER.
UM, BUT TYPICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU, YOU CAN JUST COPY THE UTILITIES AND DEMO.
USUALLY YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY REMOVE EVERYTHING.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP THE SIDE AND YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING EXCAVATION IN THIS CASE PROCESS-WISE, YOU SHOULD JUST BE ABLE TO CAP UTILITIES AND THEN WITH THE BUILDING WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. UH, OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE KNEW ABOUT THE DEMO, THE NEED TO DEMO SINCE SEPTEMBER.
AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE CONCURRENT WITH THE ABATEMENT AND CONCURRENT WITH THE EVALUATION.
UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR CITY HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING A LOT OF FIRES OVER THE LAST YEAR.
AND SO OUR CONCERN WITH LEAVING A VACANT PROPERTY STANDING FOR CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME IS THAT IT CONTINUES TO CREATE LIFE NUISANCE AND IT POSES A RISK TO LIFE AND SAFETY.
UH, SO WHILE I CAN'T DISPUTE WHAT MR. YEN, UH, HOW EEO SAYS, UH, I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THE OWNER COULD BE MORE PROACTIVE IN GETTING THINGS DONE CONCURRENTLY SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A DEMO PERMIT IN PLACE, UH, SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED CONCURRENT WITH ABATEMENT AND CONCURRENT WITH SOME MIDDLE TO LATE Q AND D.
UH, AND NOT THIS, THIS IS NOT A LINEAR PROCESS, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S A SEQUENTIAL PROCESS THAT THINGS CAN HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY.
SO I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE HEARING, I MEAN, WE'RE REQUIRING OR ASKING THAT YOU REQUIRE THAT THINGS BE DEMO BY THE 18TH AND I'M HEARING DECEMBER 20TH, WHICH TELLS ME THAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE INTO THE NEW YEAR IF THINGS CONTINUE TO GO AT WITHOUT ANY URGENCY, UH, AT A, AT A SLOWER PACE.
SO THEN I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE THE SOLID ANSWER, BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TAKE? WHAT ARE YOU, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF KICK IN THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT.
SO AS FAR AS THE DEMO WORK, I DON'T SEE ANY DELAYS TO OUR, OUR STAFF BASICALLY READY, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE IT.
SO I JUST AS FAR AS THE UTILITY, WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE CERTAIN COMPANY EDISON'S READY.
SO IF WE CAN GET SOME HELP GETTING THIS UTILITY PERMIT PROCESS EXPEDITED, I'M, I'M BASICALLY GRADES AND IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE MONTHS.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE JUST A FEW WEEKS TO GET A HOLD THE DEMO.
OUR DEPARTMENT CAN OUTPUT THE DEMO PERMIT.
UTILITIES ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.
UH, BUT I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE ABLE, I THINK JOHN TO, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN A BUILDING AND SAFETY ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY NEED.
THERE MAY BE
YOU JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CAP POWER.
YOU DO HAVE TO DISCONNECT AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LINE SPEED IN THIS SITE ARE NOT LIVE ANYMORE.
BUT GAS WATER, USUALLY YOU CAP THEM ON THE PROPERTY LINE AND PROCEED WITH THE DEMOLITION WORK.
SO MAYBE WE CAN HELP, UH, MR. Y, UH, WITH BUILDING AND SAFETY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT'S THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE THEIR DEMO PERMIT.
DOES THE OWNER HAVE ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR THE SITE? AND ARE YOU TRYING TO ALIGN THIS WORK SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER SITE CONDITION WHEN YOU DO CONSTRUCTION? UH, I BELIEVE, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, ANOTHER PROPERTY NEXT TO THAT, UH, SITE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, RENOVATE THAT TO BE, I THINK SOME SORT OF A,
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UH, EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.'CAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S A UNIVERSITY, THE OWNER OF THE, THE OWNER IS ACTUALLY PART IN PART OF THE UNIVERSITY IN KOREA.
SO, UH, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO RENOVATE IT TO BE A PARKING LOT FOR THAT, UH, UH, THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.
SO FOR FUTURE PLAN, I DON'T SEE ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO RENOVATE THAT SO THAT IT CAN BECOME A NICE KNIT FACULTY FOR THE STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL, UH, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY PRIME SITE LOCATION, RIGHT.
LIKE JASON'S, BCH, WOODLAND A STATION TO AN INTERESTING SOLUTION.
BUT, UH, I THINK PARKING LOT ENCRYPTION, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONNECTIONS READY FOR THE NEW STAGE.
AND ANOTHER OPTION THEY HAD CONSIDERED WAS LAST TIME I THINK BACK THE, UH, LADY FROM THE UNIVERSITY WAS SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO SELL THE PROPERTY AFTER ALL THIS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEARED OUT SO THAT THE NEW OWNER CAN DO, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, USE A BETTER USE OF THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE RIGHT.
ACTUALLY YOU'RE RIGHT, REALLY PRIMARY MM-HMM,
WELL, WE CAN'T REALLY TALK ON THAT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT ANY FUTURE PROJECT SHOULDN'T HINDER PROGRESS IN THE SHE WAS THERE, THE CASE BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW PROGRESS, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, 30 DAYS, EVERYTHING DONE.
AND UH, IF, UH, YOU CAN'T KEEP PUSHING IT DOWN THE, UM, DOWN, THEN YOU, YOU'RE GONNA FINED CONTINUOUSLY.
IS THAT THE, UM, CASE? BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA START WORK WITH THEM.
SO I WOULD SAY WE CAN GIVE CONTINUOUS ALL.
I THINK THE, I I THINK THE BOARD HAS ALREADY GIVEN ITS CONTINUOUS.
I WAS GONNA SAY I'M RESISTANT TO THAT BECAUSE I, AT THE LAST MEETING WE GAVE THEM 60 DAYS.
OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT, SO NOW IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LEFT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE NOW AND WHAT HE'S TELLING YOU ABOUT WHAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE PROPERTY AND WHAT'S DONE.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK, UH, WELL WHAT'S THE SIGN ON THIS? SO HAVE, HAVE YOU, DO YOU HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR WHEN THE UTILITIES WILL BE, UH, OR PROJECTED TO BE DISCONNECTED FOR THE ELECTRICITY? YOU DO? EDISON, EDISON, I TOLD SAY ABOUT 20.
AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR, YOU ARE WAITING FOR GAS AND WATER.
THAT'S SOMETHING HOPEFULLY TODAY I GO DOWNSTAIRS, UH, WITH INSPECTOR, UH, MARTIN TO FIND OUT WE CAN GET THAT CLEARED OUT.
HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID OKAY, WE CAN JUST CAPITAL IT OFF AND THE WE CAN
AND WITH THAT 30 DAY EXTENSION, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TODAY, BUT THAT THE EXTENSION, I'M PRETTY SURE I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GET THE WORK DONE, BUT IF THEY SAID NO, WE HAVE TO WAIT, UH, MORE TIME BECAUSE OF THE UTILITY DETERMINATION, THE PLANNING AND STUFF, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO SAY.
AFTER
SO I CANNOT ONLY TELL YOU WHAT, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE FOR THEM TO LEAVE DEPARTMENT FIRST FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO US AND BE READY FOR A DEMO PERMIT.
WHEN, WHEN DID YOU APPLY TO HAVE THE UTILITIES TAKEN OUT? IT'S RIGHT AFTER A QMD, UH, GAVE US, GAVE US A CLEARANCE.
UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE, THE DAY THAT WE CAME, UH, TO THE, UH, CITY WITH THE CLEARANCE THINKING THAT IT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS REQUIRED.
BUT WHEN WE ENTERED, I SAID THAT'S THE, UH, UTILITIES ARE THAT
SO YOU HAD THEM TURNED OFF AND THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE? YES.
WHAT DATE WAS THAT? THAT WAS ABOUT PROBABLY, UH, IN, THEY WERE ASKING FOR, UH, A CLEARANCE.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT SIX DAYS OLD.
JUST A WEEK AGO? NO, NO, SIX, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT 34.
YEAH, PROBABLY ABOUT 40 DAYS OLD.
AND THIS IS THE PART I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH ON THE TIMELINE.
YOU FIND OUT THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE UTILITIES INSTEAD OF JUST CHURNING THEM OFF.
AND I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH TIME WAS THERE BETWEEN THE TIME YOU REALIZED, OH, WE NEED TO DO MORE AND THAT'S RIGHT AFTER APPLIED, AFTER YEAH, I GOT THE
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BUT IS IT? YEAH, IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
SO YOU WAITED UNTIL YOU GOT THE A QMD CLEARANCE THINKING THAT JUST TURNING OFF THE UTILITIES WAS ENOUGH AND THEN ONCE YOUR A QMD CLEARANCE, YOU WENT BACK IN? YEAH, THAT'S WHEN THEY TOLD US THE PHYSICAL NEEDS THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
AFTER THAT WE CONTACTED THE THIRD CALIFORNIA
THEY GAVE US A SECOND PERIOD OF TIME TO BE RESPONDED, AND THEN WE GOT THE RESPONSE DURING THE TIME, UH, IN THE, IN THE WAITING TIME BETWEEN THE, OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
SO, UH, ONCE WE GOT THE EMAIL, THEY SAID 15 DAYS FROM THAT DAY.
SO THAT'S, THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME RIGHT AFTER.
YEAH, THAT'S WHEN AND WHEN DID YOU CONTACT FOR WATER AND GAS? I DID THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
AT THE SAME TIME, YEAH, BUT WE HAVEN'T, UH, THE WAY THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE, THE CITY UTILITY DEPARTMENT PLANNING PERMIT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE TO LEAVE A MESSAGE AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET BACK, UH, WITH THEIR RESPONSE RIGHT AWAY.
WE HAVE TO WAIT FEW, UH, SOMETIMES ABOUT A WEEK TO BE RESPONDING BACK AND ONCE WE GOT RESPOND BACK, WE CAN NOW COMMUNICATE WITH THE EMAIL.
SO THAT WAS MUCH FASTER PROCESS.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE HEARD THAT FROM, UH, GAS DEPARTMENT SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA SIGN SOMEBODY TO, UH, PLAN REMOVAL.
BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THE, UH, THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
SO IF THERE'S A PHYSICAL DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GO AND ENTER AND ASK DANIEL MUCH FASTER, LIKE BUILDING S MR. TRUMAN, THE, UH, DATE THAT YOU WERE INQUIRING ABOUT IS, UH, I'M, ACCORDING TO THE NOTE TO 10 24, 23 WHEN MR. YU NOTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT OUR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT GAVE THE, OKAY.
SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE DATE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO, WELL, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY GRANTED ONE EXTENSION, I THINK WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT ANY LONGER.
WE JUST HAVE TO MOVE THIS ALONG.
AND, UH, SO THE, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME URGENCY ON THE, ON THE PART OF THE, UH, ON YOUR PART TO GET, GET THESE UTILITIES, UH, DISCONNECTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, REMOVED AND, AND REMOVED CAPITAL, WHATEVER THEY, THEY NEED TO DO TO, TO GET THIS, UH, GET THIS DEMOLITION GOING.
MY, MY LAST THOUGHT PIECE BECAUSE, BECAUSE CONTACTING THE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PHYSICAL LOCATION WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY GO AND ASK A PERSON.
BUT ONLY THING WAS JUST TO TELEPHONE LINE WHERE WE CAN RESOLVE AND LEAVE THE MESSAGE.
SO HOPEFULLY IF I GO DOWN TO SECOND FLOOR, GET SOME HELP, GETTING THE DEMO PERMIT AND CAPPING IS ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, BASICALLY WE'RE READY CAN JUST CAP IT OFF, WORK ON IT.
I DON'T, SO I KNOW THAT I HAVE A MEETING WITH, SO I BE CONFUSED MOTION ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S COMMUNICATION.
UM, I'M, I'M A LITTLE, UH, CONFUSED WITH THE, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING, BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO RULE ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF I STAND CORRECT.
AND YOU'VE HEARD WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS INFORMED YOU OF IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THE PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU'VE HEARD WHAT, UM, IS IT MR. U HAS INFORMED YOU ABOUT WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP HAS DONE? AND SO CLEARLY THERE'S, UH, BIT OF A DIFFERENCE THERE.
DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT WORK WITH LONG BEACH GAS AND WATER? UM, WELL, NO, WE'RE SEPARATE ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S A FUN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THEM TO, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
YEAH, I GET THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
WE'LL, WE'LL INTERJECT AND, UH, ASSIST THE OWNERS WHEN THEY ASK FOR ASSISTANCE.
SO WE'LL REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO THE OTHER ORGANIZATION, AGENCY AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO EXPEDITE AND ASSIST THE OWNER? SO WE DO DO THAT ON OCCASION WHEN THE OWNER SAY, HEY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE, WHICH THEY DO FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT CALL US AND SAY, I, I TRIED.
I CAN'T, I I'VE GONE IN PERSON.
AND THIS EQUATION, SEAN, YOU CAN SPEAK FOR THIS.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY DID THAT AND REACHED OUT
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FOR HELP.AND AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
DO YOU, DID YOU REACH OUT WHEN YOU WERE HAVING TROUBLE REACHING THE UTILITY APARTMENTS? DID YOU GO BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WERE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING ANYWHERE? YES.
YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, I, UH, YEAH, I WASN'T ABLE TO, UH, RESPOND BACK, TURN IT OFF, TURN IT OFF.
TO BE HONEST, I JUST GOT BACK FROM A, UM, TRIP.
UH, SO JUST MY FIRST DATE FROM THAT.
UH, SO I, WHEN I WAS AWAY, I WASN'T ABLE TO REACH HIM BACK.
AND YOU KNOW, I, WELL, I KNOW I COULD HAVE, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST, OKAY, SO YOU, OKAY.
SO IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN MUCH BETTER, UH, FOLLOW UP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS THE MEETING WHERE YOU HAVE TO DECIDE.
SO, OKAY, SO YOU, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR STAFF.
I MEAN, WE'RE GIVING THEM UNTIL THE 18TH.
WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE 18TH? DO THEY START GETTING FINED ON A DAILY BASIS? UM, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT PROCESS WITH THE SUBSTANDARD PREVIOUSLY.
JUST I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT, ONCE YOU, AS THE BOARD DECIDES, UM, ON THE DECISION, THEN, UH, IF YOU AGREE AND, AND, AND APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, WHAT'LL HAPPEN NEXT? THE CITY STAFF WILL COORDINATE WITH OUR SENIOR MANAGEMENT STAFF AND WE'LL START PRETTY MUCH GETTING A BID FOR A CONTRACTOR TO GO OUT THERE AND DO AN ASSESSMENT ON WHAT IT, WHAT THE COST IS GONNA BE TO DEMO THAT PROPERTY.
THE CITY AND THE CONTRACTOR WILL FOLLOW THROUGH AS IF THEY WERE THE OWNER AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET THE PERMITS AND WHATNOT.
AND THEN GO AHEAD AND DEMO AND THEN CHARGE THE OWNER.
UM, SO AGAIN, TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE CONCURRENTLY THAT WE'LL BE DOING OUR PROCESS.
IF THEY DO WHATEVER THEY DO AND THEY BEAT US TO THE POINT TO PUNCH, THEN WE TERMINATE OUR END AND THEN THEY, PRETTY MUCH THE CASE GETS CLOSED ONCE THE VIOLATIONS ARE CURED, MEANING THAT THEY PULL PERMIT AND GET ALL THE APPROVALS REQUIRED AND DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE THERE AND PRETTY MUCH LEVEL EVERYTHING AND THEN RAISE IT AND SECURE.
AND THEN PRETTY MUCH OUR CASE WOULD BE CLOSED, EVEN IF AN EXTENSION WAS POSSIBLE, RIGHT.
YOU'RE GONNA FALL INTO THE CHRISTMAS BREAK AND IT'S NOT GONNA GIVE YOU ANY BENEFIT.
ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLOSE UP.
AND SO I THINK WELL STILL THE SYSTEM, IF THEY ASK FOR HELP, HEY, AND LET THEM GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'D BE BENEFICIAL FOR US EITHER WAY.
BUT EITHER WAY, WE'RE STILL GONNA FOLLOW OUR PROCESS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW OUR PROCESS, WHICH IS THE CORRECT THING TO DO.
UM, BUT IF THEY BEAT US TO THE PUNCH, THAT'S EVEN GOOD TOO BECAUSE THEN IT STILL GETS DONE.
SO THEN HOW DO WE RULE ON THAT? EXACTLY.
WELL, WE JUST HAVE TO MOVE TO APPROVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THAT THE DEMO WORK'S GONNA GET DONE.
AND EITHER THEY DO IT THEMSELVES OR WE DO IT, BUT THEN WE CHARGE THEM FOR IT, BUT IT'S GONNA GET DONE.
SO WE JUST GONNA BASICALLY SAY YOU HAVE UNTIL, WELL, I THINK THE SUGGESTION IS THE TIME IS UP.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, TIME IS, AND IT WOULD TAKE YOU A WEEK OR TWO FOR TO GET A CONTRACTOR.
SO IF YOU KNEW THE TIME IS UP, THEN IF YOU CAN MOVE QUICKLY, THEN YOUR FIRM STILL GETS TO DO IT.
AND IF NOT, THE CITY TAKES OVER, THEY'LL TAKE OVER AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THE CORRECT.
SO THEN, UH, WE JUST, SO THAT'S ON THE 18TH.
BUT AGAIN, ONCE, UH, ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, MR. DETERMINE WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START OUR PROCESS AND WE CAN SELL A SYSTEM AND THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS THAT THEY CHOOSE TO, AND AGAIN, THEY BEAT US TO THE PUNCH AND THEY GET EVERYTHING DONE AND WE JUST GO IN AND INSPECT AND THEN WE CAN CLOSE OUR CASE.
BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT I THINK THE BOARD CAN GIVE UP TO 60 DAY EXTENSION.
RIGHT? AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN LAST MONTH.
SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD AN EXTRA MONTH TO DO THINGS BEYOND WHAT THE BOARD WOULD'VE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO, TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE BY.
YEAH, I'M NOT, I DON'T EXTENSION ANY FURTHER EXTENSION.
I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE STAFF.
MR. IS ENRIQUEZ CHAIRMAN WHITEHEAD? YES.
UH, AND, UH, TELL THEM WHAT'S HAPPENED.
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MUCH.THAT WAS THREE AND FOUR, CORRECT? THREE AND FOUR, YES.
SO EVERY TIME IT'S LIKE, IF THE FIRST CASE IS REALLY THE SECOND HIGHEST AGENDA ITEM, I MEAN, YOU KNOW THAT, BUT I MEAN, TAKE TWO MINUTES.
SOMETHING THAT'S, UH OH, SURE.
SO WE JUST NEED TO PAUSE THE MEETING FOR A MOMENT.
TRYING TO TURN MY PHONE OFF, BUT WOULDN'T TURN OFF.
UH, CLERK, YOU WANNA, THE NEXT CASE NUMBER, 7 9 4 7 DASH 11 DASH 23 15 43 ROSE AVENUE, LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA LYNN TRUST, CARE OF JOHN W. LYNN AND LUCILLE LYNN, TRUST OWNERS CE CASE NUMBER CESB 2 8 5 9 5 9 SUBSTANDARD BUILDING CASE.
OKAY, UM, STAFF, UH, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, THE, UH, STAFF, UH, RECOMMEND WE CONCLUDE THE HEARING.
ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF THE GOOD OFFICIAL OF THE BOARD'S FINDINGS.
DETERMINE THAT THE ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1543 ROAD AVENUE, SUBSTANDARD AND
UH, FOR THE FINDINGS DATED 11, THERE ORDER THE OWNERS TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE IN A SAFE, CLEAN, AND SECURE MANNER UNTIL THE DEMOLITION OR REHABILITATION IS COMPLET.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF STAFF.
UH, AS A REMINDER, I WILL BE REVIEWING ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, MY NAME IS FRANCISCO MEDINA.
I'M A, A COMBINATION OF BUILDING INSPECTOR.
SO, UM, 4, 3 23 ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT OF A STRUCTURED FIRE AT 1543.
INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY WAS ATTEMPTED, BUT ACCESS TO THE BUILDING INTERIOR IS NOT POSSIBLE.
OR 1823 INSPECTION OF PROPERTY REVEALED EXTENSION, FIRE, EXTENSIVE FIRE DAMAGE TO STRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDED FIRE DAMAGE TO FRAME NUMBERS, WALLS, DUST PLATES, HEADERS, CEILINGS, JOY, ROOF DOORS, AND, UH, WINDOWS.
AT THAT TIME OF INSPECTION, THE PROPERTY WAS NOT FAIR.
SO THERE AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE THE CITY WAS STRIVING TO ACHIEVE VOLUNTARY CONDUCT BY ALLOWING THE PROPERTY OWNER TO HIRE DEMOLISH ON THE PROPERTY ON 5 14 23, THE PROPERTY OWNER DESTROY, CONTACTED COURT ENFORCEMENT TO INDICATE THAT SHE COULD NOT PROCEED TO GO AFFAIRS DUE A LACK OF ACCESS OF
THE PROPERTY WAS NOT DECLARED SUBSTANDARD AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD EXPERIENCED THE DEATH OF PARTNER.
ON 6 20 23, MS. LU CONTACTED CODE OF ENFORCE AND STAFF TO INDICATE SHE WAS STILL UNEMPLOYED AND COULD NOT CROSS PROCEED WITH REPAIR.
UH, PROPERTY REMAINED SECURE AND WITH NO ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS.
ON 7 14 23, MS. LYNN CONTACTED CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF TO INDICATE SHE EXPECTED TO BE EMPLOYED SOON AND HAVE THE CON CONTACTED CONTRACTORS TO BEGIN TO OBTAIN BIDS AND, UH, TO REPAIR A STRUCTURE.
ON 8 18 23, PROPERTY WAS DECLARED SUBSTANDARD.
THE STRUCTURE IS VACANT AT THE TIME OF INSPECTION.
A REVIEW OF THE RECORDS ON AND THE SITE INSPECTION REVEALED THE PROPERTY WAS VACANT AND PERMITS HAVE NOT BEEN OBTAINED AT THAT TIME.
AND THE PROPERTY REMAINED IN VIOLATION.
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UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF POSTED A DO NOT OCCUPY NOTICE AT THAT PROPERTY ON 8 29 23.MS. LYNN CONTACTED CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND INDICATED SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE LOAN TO CARRY OUT THE REPAIRS, PROCESSING THE LOAN DOCUMENTS WAS EXPECTED TO TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS.
10 10 20 23 CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MET WAS JUST LIVED, UH, HERE AT CITY HALL AT THE BUILDING SAFETY MEETING CENTER, AND, UH, FACILITATED A DISCUSSION BETWEEN BUILDING PLANNING STAFF ON 10 24 23, SHE WAS IN CONTACT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
STAFF, INDICATED SHE HAD OPTED TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING AND DO
UH, MS. LYNN CONTACTED FOR ENFORCEMENT THAT, UM, SHE WOULD BE COMING IN ON 11 7 23.
AND, UH, I HAD TOLD HER THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO, TO HAVE HER REQUEST BECAUSE WE WERE ALL AT A TRAINING OVER AT, UM, THE BUREAU TRAINING IS WHAT WE WERE HAVING THAT DAY.
SO THEY'RE ALL DISCLOSING THAT THE DEPARTMENT, THAT DAY, THAT WAS ON THURSDAY.
AS OF THIS MORNING, THE, UH, PROPERTY IS STILL SECURE AND, UH, NO DEMOLITION PERMIT HAS BEEN OBTAINED.
UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF.
SO MS. UM, MS. LYNN? LYNN? YES.
HI, MY NAME IS COREY LYNN AND I LIVE AT 1541 ROAD I LIVE IN.
FRONT HOUSE IS ONE OTHER THING I SUPPOSED TO SAY.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS.
NOW THAT I KNOW THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO DO AND THAT I DON'T HAVE TO REHAB IT, THAT WAS MY PROBLEM.
I WAS LOOKING FOR LOANS FOR ABOUT $250,000 ON 56.
AND SO THAT WAS A REAL PROBLEM FOR ME, BEING THAT I'M BY MYSELF.
I DO WANNA ALSO SAY THANKS TO THE PEOPLE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY KIND TO ME AND WORKED WITH ME.
SO I'M HAVING MONEY PROBLEMS. THAT'S IT.
I CAN'T GET A LOAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF MORTGAGE ON MY HOME.
I WAS THINKING, ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GET AN EQUITY LOAN, AND THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY RIGHT NOW.
IF I HAD 10 GRAND, I GOT, I GOT A DEMO, UM, SOMEONE TO DO THE DEMO FOR 9,500.
SO I GOT 'EM DOWN TO NINE 500.
I'M WILLING TO DEMO IT AND HAVE A GARDEN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S MY PROBLEM.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, WHAT TO DO.
I JUST KEEP SEARCHING FOR PEOPLE.
I'VE GONE TO MY BANK, I'VE GONE TO FRIENDS, AND I JUST KEEP GOING TO INSTITUTIONS UNLESS A LOAN CHART, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I'M AT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I'M STILL SEARCHING FOR LOANS.
UM, AND I'LL BE THERE SIX MONTHS AS OF THE END OF THE 1ST OF JANUARY.
SO THAT MIGHT HELP ME OUT IN GETTING A LOAN, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF CONTINUITY WITH MY JOB.
MY LAST JOB I WAS, I HAD EIGHT MONTHS WITHOUT WORK.
SO IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF KINDNESS AND MAYBE A LITTLE WISDOM REQUEST.
THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR MS. LAND, HAVE YOU INQUIRED AS TO WHETHER THE CITY HAS ANY, UH, RESOURCES YOU COULD POSSIBLY ACCESS TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I WAS SPEAKING WITH FRANK ABOUT THAT, AND UM, I WASN'T ABLE TO COME UP WITH ANYTHING.
UM, THERE'S JUST NOT THAT MUCH OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, COVID REALLY PUT THE KOSH ON A LOT OF STUFF, BUT THINGS ARE COMING BACK AROUND.
SO I'M HOPING THAT PEOPLE WILL BE KINDER AND BE ABLE TO LOSER WITH THEIR MONEY AND LOAN ME SOME MONEY.
SO MAYBE THE CITY DOES HAVE SOMETHING.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT.
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I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.I'LL GIVE YOU, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
UM, SO THIS WAS, UH, THIS IS A FRESH PASTE WITH US, RIGHT? THIS IS NEW, UM, RECOMMENDATION.
SEPTEMBER, I THINK WE REVIEWED THIS IN, IN SEPTEMBER, OUR LAST MEETING.
BECAUSE THE FIRE TOOK PLACE IN, NOW MR. TRUMAN HERE, SHE, SHE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD A DEADLINE TO, UH, REHABILITATE STRUCTURE BY 1212, WHICH IS TOMORROW.
SO THE BOARD ALREADY DECIDED TO HAVE A DEADLINE ON, SO OBVIOUSLY NOT GONNA GET THAT DONE.
SO, SO THAT'S, UH, WHAT ARE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS CONCLUDE THE HEARING.
UM, THE FINDINGS OF BILLING, PICTURE FOUR FINDINGS, DETERMIN, SINGLE DWELLING LOCATED AT 1540 3-YEAR-OLD IS SUB.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY ORDER DEMOL.
SO THEN, SO BY HER NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, UM, AND IT'S NOT LACK OF WANTING TO OH, AND WE UNDERSTAND.
YEAH, I REALLY MEAN THAT'S NOT WANTING TO, I UNDERSTAND THAT VERY WELL.
HOW ABOUT AN EXTENSION? 60 DAYS? GIMME 60 DAYS TO TRY TO RUSTLE UP SOMETHING.
THAT'S, I JUST, I JUST NEED SOME HELP.
HAVE ANY EXTENSIONS BEEN GRANTED STEP BY ONE? NO, NOT ON THIS CASE.
BUT, UH, WE COULD HAVE GRANT HER EXTENSIVE.
MS. LYNN, WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO IN THESE NEXT 60 DAYS TO TRY TO GET OVER THIS, UH, FINANCIALLY? SO I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH MY BOSS AND UM, HE MIGHT BE WILLING TO HELP ME OUT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M JUST GOING TO DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
I WAS TRYING TO GET IT AS A WHOLE, AND NOW I'M RECOGNIZING THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK FOR ME.
MAYBE TWO GRAND HERE, 1500 THERE.
I'M AT MY WITTS END AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS EVEN DEALING WITH ME.
SO THIS IS MY NEW PLAN OF ACTION, GETTING LITTLE BITS AND MAYBE COMING UP WITH A WHOLE, SO, SO JUST SAY WE GIVE HER AN EXTENSION OF 60 DAYS AND IT'S NOT DONE IN 60 DAYS.
WHAT'S HER, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE LEGAL, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS LAST CASE.
THE CITY AT THAT POINT CAN STEP IN, DEMOLISH IT, THE MILES SITTING THERE, SHE'S GONNA BE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT.
AND, UH, SO I HAVE A MAN, UM, OKAY, SO, UM, IF I AM ABLE TO GET THE, THE ASBESTOS, GET THAT DONE, UM, HAVE THAT CHECKED AND APPLY FOR A DEMO PERMIT, WOULD THAT GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TRY TO WORK THIS MONEY? I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M SPEAKING TO.
THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED SPEAKING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT BE, I MEAN, IS THERE A LITTLE BY LITTLE BY LITTLE? IS THERE ASBESTOS IN THE STRUCTURE THAT HAS TO BE DEMOLISHED? THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT I'VE HAD SOMEBODY COME IN AND HE SAID NO, HE DOES NOT THINK SO.
I HAVEN'T HAD THE MONEY TO PAY THE GUY TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF DAY, YOU KNOW, AND WHETHER YOU GET IT IS ASBESTOS CLEANED OUT OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED.
60 DAYS IS, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I AM PROBABLY, THEY SAID IT WOULD TAKE A WEEK TO DEMOLISH IT.
SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS IF I CAN DO LITTLE BY LITTLE TRYING TO GET THE DEMO PERMIT, IF I CAN GET THE DEMO PERMIT, WOULD THAT FIND ME A LITTLE MORE TIME TO TRY TO GET SOME MONEY? I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
I'VE GOT A HOME, BUT I'M POOR AS IT CAN GO.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY, UM, LIKE TELL WHAT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND, AND THEY SAY YOU CAN GET AN EXTENSION, BUT AT THE END OF THE EXTENSION YOU STILL HAVE TO DO WHAT? UH, WHAT THE, WELL ABSO YOU KNOW WHAT, AND IT MAKES SENSE.
I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE IT THERE.
I LOOK OUT MY BACK DOOR AND I'M REMINDED THAT MY FAMILY GONE.
YOU KNOW, SO, SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M WITH YOU.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE AN EXTENSION AND I'M GONNA WORK MY MONEY OFF.
THAT'S THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU.
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UM, THERE'S SOMEBODY LIVING IN THE DEPART, THAT'S ME.
THERE'S NO THAT GO INTO THE BACK.
AND THERE A CHALLENGE ALSO ON RESIDENTIAL.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE PHOTOGRAPHS THE WAY CONDITION PURPOSE IS, AND SO, AND NOBODY'S THERE, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT SAY FOR ANYONE TO EVEN GO IN THERE.
I MEAN, WHETHER IT THE OWNER OR ANYONE ELSE JUST TO GO, JUST TO STEP IN THERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE DAMAGE THAT'S DEPICTED IN THERE.
AND SO IT'S JUST A, UH, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S A NUISANCE PER SE, BUT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR SURE.
FOR ANYONE INCLUDING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AREA SO NO ONE CAN GET IN THERE? OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S HER PROPERTY AND SHE'S LIVING THERE? YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PUT FENCE AROUND OR BOARD UP THE, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE HOLD OBVIOUSLY MR. TRUMAN AS PART OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE, WE DID, UH, PUT IT IN THERE THAT WE'RE THE OWNERS TO MAINTAIN THE INSTRUCTION AND SAFE, CLEAN, AND SECURE MANNER UNTIL DEMOLITION A REHABILITATION.
PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY, UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY DO ONE OR THE OTHER, YOU WILL KEEP IT SAFE AND CLEAN AND SECURE.
IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS DAMAGED IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S IN THE BACK, RIGHT? IT'S IN THE BACK AND IT'S GOT A FENCE AROUND IT AND IT'S CLOSED UP.
IT'S GOT BOARDS WHERE IT WAS BURNED AND IT'S LOCKED.
AND THE GATES ARE LOCKED AND NO ONE HAS BEEN IN THERE.
NO ONE HAS BEEN IN THERE AT ALL.
IS THERE ANY RECORD OF ANY NEIGHBOR COMPLAINT OR HAVING A CHALLENGE WITH THE BACK PROPERTY LINE? NO, SINCE THE, OKAY, WELL I'LL GO AND I'M GONNA RECOMMEND WE GIVE HER A 60 DAY EXTENSION TO, YOU KNOW, GET WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO DO.
BUT THEN AT THE END OF 60 DAYS, THERE WILL BE NO MORE EXTENSIONS, MS. LAND, YOU HAVE TO EITHER DO IT OR YOU KNOW, LET THE CITY'S GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU.
THEN YOU'RE GOING ON THE HOOK FOR THAT.
SO, UH, I WOULD, UH, START WORKING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY ON TIME TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN GET WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A COUPLE WEEKS.
LIKE NOT JUST YESTERDAY, BUT I'M GONNA THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND IS THAT TO DEMO? SO I WOULD ASK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION.
WHAT AM I, WHAT IS THE 60 DAYS GIVING ME TO GET THE MONEY OR, OR TO GET A DEMO PERMIT TO DEMOLISH? YOU WANT TO DEMOLISH IT SO IT'S, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU'RE, YEAH, NO, NO, NO, NO.
IT'S JUST, YEAH, THE EXTENSIONS FOR DEMOL DEMOLISHING.
IT'S WHAT IT'S, UNLESS IF YOU FALL INTO SOME KIND OF A RICHES, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW, THEN YOU HAVE TO GET WITH THE CITY YEAH.
BUT RIGHT NOW THAT 60 DAY EXTENS IS FOR, FOR YOU TO DO A DOUBT, GET TO GET THE DEMO, GET IT DEMOLISHED.
AND, AND I'D SUGGEST THAT JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE, THAT YOU KNOW, YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUIRES BEFORE THEY'LL ISSUE IT TO YOU.
IF YOU HAVE UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE DISCONNECTED FOR THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY.
THE A VUM THAT THE, UH, THE UH, ABATEMENT OF EITHER ASBESTOS OR LEAD.
MAKE SURE THAT ALL ARE DISCONNECTED AND ALL OF IT'S DONE.
SO IT'S JUST ABOUT FINDING THE MONEY TO DO IT.
CAN I GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I SECOND.
I DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU START YOUR DEMOLITION APPLICATION.
YOU CAN PROBABLY CONTACT PEOPLE, HAVE THAT
ARE YOU DOING DISCUSSION? YEAH.
JUST TO REITERATE, IT'S THE SAME RECOMMENDATION EXCEPT THAT WE'VE GIVEN THE, WE'VE GIVEN HER A TWO MONTH EXTENSION, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TO BE DEMOLISHED BY THE 12TH OF DECEMBER, BUT FE FEBRUARY.
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STILL A LAST, STILL A OH YEAH, WE'RE NOT DONE.HE, HE CALLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WAS THAT THE LAST THING? THAT IS THE LAST AGENDA, UM, ITEM.
SO THEN, UH, OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS JANUARY 20.
SECOND, UH, WE HAVE TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? UH, NO.
UM, SO THEN OUR NEXT, UH, SCHEDULED MEETING IS JANUARY 22ND.
MR. CHAIRMAN JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE.
UM, ERIC WITNESS WILL NO LONGER BE WITH THE, UH, BOARD AND HE JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THIS TIME WITH YOU.
YOU SAID HE WAS GREAT AND I JUST WANNA SAY HIS GOODBYES.
NOW I'M SCHEDULED MEETING IS, UH, JANUARY 22ND, UH, 2024.
AND, UH, I MOVED ON THIS MEETING,