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HELLO.

HI, KAREN.

I'M IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, SO WE'RE GONNA BE CLERKING TODAY.

IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE A, YOU KNOW, SAY YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION OR A SECOND THAT HELPS ME CLERK.

UM, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW.

BUT, UM, SHOULD BE SOME MORE TO THE LAST MEETING WHERE YOU KIND OF JUST SAID YOUR NAME MADE A MOTION CHAIR.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT BE YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, EVERYBODY, UH, GOOD MORNING.

UH, CALL THE ORDER PLEASE.

WE HAVE A PHONE CALL.

YEAH.

MATT PETERSON.

HERE.

KAREN BLAIR.

HERE.

RYAN HOFFMAN.

HERE.

JAN.

CHRONIC GAP.

HERE.

JODY MEAD.

HERE.

DAVID WINSLEY.

AARON PONTY HERE.

WE HAVE MOTION.

UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE MORE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, I HAVE A, UH, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, INFORMATION FROM CHAIR'S REPORT.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN A, A, A, AN ITEM RAISED FROM, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS REGARDING STIPENDS, UH, WHICH WOULD COMPENSATE COMMISSIONERS, UH, ON A PER MEETING BASIS.

UH, THIS IS NOT A NOVEL CONCEPT, UH, WITHIN THE CITY.

UH, THERE MAY BE SOME COMMISSIONERS ON SOME COMMISSIONS THAT ARE, UH, COMPENSATED FOR THEIR TIME.

UH, THERE IS, UH, LANGUAGE THAT, UH, ALLOWS FOR, UH, AT LEAST THE DIALOGUE TO CONTINUE.

UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IF THERE WAS A STIPEND, UH, IT WOULD, THE, THE COST OF THAT WOULD COME OUT OF REVENUE FROM THE COMMISSION.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE AN EMAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE FORWARDED TO COMMISSIONERS, UH, FROM THE CITY LEVEL, UH, ON WHAT THE PARAMETERS FOR THAT STIPEND WOULD BE.

UM, I WILL, I'M FORMALLY SAYING I WILL OPT OUT OF ANY STIPEND.

AND, UM, ME TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT, UH, EVERY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S, UH, CONSIDERATION WOULD BE.

BUT PERSONALLY, I WOULD OPT OUT.

UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I FEEL IS NECESSARY OR A PART OF, UH, WHAT WE DO HERE AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND, UM, THIS IS A, A TIME CONSTRAINT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, UH, ACTIONS IN THIS EFFORT TO DO THIS.

UM, AND, UH, THE COMMUNITY, UH, SHOULD KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT COMPENSATED FOR THIS.

BUT THERE IS, UM, SOME DISCUSSION OF IT.

SO THAT'LL COME UP FROM THE CITY LEVEL, AND I JUST WANNA GET THAT OUT THERE.

UH, LAST MONTH, OR IN NOVEMBER, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS OCCURRING ON A REGULAR BASIS, UH, IN THE SHORE.

AND IT IS, UH, ENFORCEMENT IS OCCURRING FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

UM, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES THAT PULL ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AWAY, UH, AND THAT'S PD CALLS, UH, WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO TO OTHER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT TO VEHICLES, UH, OR MATTERS.

UH, FROM THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER ONE TO DECEMBER ONE, OCTOBER ONE TO DECEMBER ONE, THERE WERE 531 CITATIONS ISSUED, UH, IN THE DISTRICT.

FROM DECEMBER ONE TO JANUARY ONE, DECEMBER ONE TO JANUARY ONE, THERE WERE 375, UH, CITATIONS.

UH, ONE MORE TIME.

WHO GETS THE REVENUE? THE REVENUE GOES TO THE CITY.

PUNITIVE GOES TO THE CITY.

GOT IT.

UH, METER REVENUE COMES TO THE COMMISSION.

UH, AND THEN, UH, SIGNAGE, UH, IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD REMAIN AFTER THE MEETING, UH, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT, UH, WHERE WE ARE ON THE SIGNAGE.

AND THEN I, I'LL ASK FOR CHAIRS.

THE REPORT IS THE CLEAN RFP, UH, IS GOING TO BID, UH, AND IT SHOULD BE RELEASED, UH, INTO THE ETHER, PROBABLY THE FIRST PART OF FEBRUARY.

UM, AND THAT IS THE, UH, EXTENT OF THE CHAIR'S REPORT FOR THE MOMENT.

SO WE'LL MOVE TO A REGULAR AGENDA, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A MINISTRY OF THE MEETING HELD NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023.

KAREN VALERA RECOMMENDS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES 16TH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR? WE NEED A SECOND.

AARON PON.

I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS.

UH, ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE AND FILE FINANCIAL REPORTS TO THE PERIOD ONLY DECEMBER 31ST.

ALL DEFER CITY STAFF FOR THIS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, REVENUE FOR DECEMBER WAS UP 10% COMPARED TO, UH, LET'S GO TO, UH, PAGE,

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THERE SHOULD BE AFTER THE MINUTES, ROUGHLY.

PAGE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ROUGHLY PAGE SEVEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

OKAY, SIR.

OKAY.

SO REVENUE, UH, FOR DECEMBER WAS UP 10% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR WITH YEAR TO DATE REVENUE, UH, ALSO UP 4% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.

THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE IS 377,000, UH, $774.

UM, AND THEN AARON, I KNOW YOU HAD A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE REAL, THE REVENUE FOR OCTOBER.

SO THAT ACTUALLY WAS A, THE, THE REAL TOTAL FOR OCTOBER WAS 95,772 WITH 73 CENTS.

AND I, IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU ALSO HAD A FEW QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE TOTAL OF MAINTENANCE OF WHY IT WAS UP ABOUT LIKE $10,000, UM, COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.

SO THE, THERE WAS TWO COSTS THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND.

SO THERE WAS THE CSI PATROL COST, WHICH WAS $6,400.

AND THEN ALSO SPECTRUM, THAT COST WAS ALSO UP $5,600.

UH, SO THOSE ARE JUST, JUST WANTED TO HANDLE, UH, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FROM LAST TIME.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

AND THAT BUMP WAS DUE TO THE COMMISSION'S REQUEST TO EXTEND, UH, PRIVATE SECURITY TO SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

UH, AND THAT WAS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE, UH, EVENT IN LIVINGSTON PARK, UH, SOME MONTHS BACK.

WE WANTED TO, UH, ANSWER THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE, UH, AS MUCH SECURITY, ADDITIONAL SECURITY AS WE CAN TO DO.

AND THAT'S AN ONGOING MOVING TARGET.

IT'S A SECURITY PROGRAM, IS A PILOT PROGRAM, COURT PILOT.

UH, SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO FUND THAT.

UM, WITHOUT TOO MUCH, UH, UH, RED TAPE INVOLVED, UH, AT THE CITY LEVEL.

UH, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO PUT AS MUCH, UH, INTO THAT AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE IT AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

UH, ANY OTHER ITEMS ON FINANCE? NO OTHER ITEMS. OKAY.

ANY COMMISSIONERS? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? UH, MOTION PLEASE.

NO, I DO HAVE A MOTION.

WHERE IS THE, UM, INCREASED SECURITY PAYMENT COMING FROM? WHAT LINE ITEM IT SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE, THE MAINTENANCE? I, I BELIEVE THERE'S A MAINTENANCE ONE.

SO THERE'S, UH, SORRY, THERE'S A LINE ITEM FOR EXPENSES.

UM, ALRIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT.

IF THE MAINTENANCE MATERIALS AND OPERATIONS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL THE CS.

SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE OPERATIONS.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR DEBT SERVICE AND, OKAY.

AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD AT ONE POINT WAS, UH, A FORECAST WHERE WE HAD A FORWARD-LOOKING BUDGET OF LIKE, OF IF WE HAD A PROCESS FOR CREATING THAT AND MAPPING OUT COSTS FOR THE YEAR SO WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY YOU AS WE GO.

I DUNNO IF THAT'S A FOOTNOTE FOR THAT.

IF WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

YEAH, I CAN SOFTWARE, I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS, WHAT IS GONNA BE FORECASTED FOR THE YEAR OF LIKE WHAT YOU'RE REGULARLY DOING.

YEAH.

AND THEN I CAN, UH, INPUT ANYTHING THAT'S MIGHT BE COMING IN, LIKE, UH, ANY ITEMS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE, SIGNAGE OR YEAH.

THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I CAN START PUTTING THAT IN SO I CAN GET A FORECAST.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE YEAR END? IT'S SEPTEMBER IS THE YEAR END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SEPTEMBER 30TH, CORRECT.

OCTOBER 1ST IS OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE IN, OKAY.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER S WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, PLEASE.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FINANCIAL REPORT.

ALL SECOND JAN.

YEAH.

BEFORE THE SECOND.

WILL YOU PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AND A SECOND.

RYAN ALLMAN.

SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ITEM THREE RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LONG BEACH TRANSIT BEFORE BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR DECEMBER 20, 23 PAGE, NEXT PACKET.

YEP.

SO IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, THERE WERE 3034 BOARDINGS AND 88 WRITERS.

UH, SO JUST WENT A LITTLE BIT DOWN COMPARED TO THE LAST MONTH.

AND JUST QUICK UPDATE.

I DID GIVE, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING MARKETING LAST TIME.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO LBT, UM, LONGVIEW TRANSIT, AND I DID GIVE THAT INFORMATION OVER TO HEATHER JUST FOR, UM, WHO SHE NEEDED A CONTACT FOR MARKETING PURPOSES ON LONG BEACH TRANSIT.

OKAY.

[00:10:09]

COMMISSIONER C**S, UH, I THINK CONTINUE TO PROMOTE IT AND, UH, WHAT HEATHER'S DOING WITH ALL THE NEW RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BEEN OPENING, CONTINUING TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED AND, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP PUSHING.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT BEING UTILIZED MORE WELL WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, EARS THAT ARE IN THE ROOM.

EDDIE, CAN WE REMIND, UH, FOLKS WHAT THE, UH, BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM IS THAT? SO THE BUDGET THAT THIS ONE'S COMING FROM IS, IT IS BEING, COMING FROM A, A METRO FUND THAT WE DO GET.

UH, SO THE COMMISSION ISN'T COMING OUT OF THE, THE PAYMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION REVENUE.

UM, SO PRETTY MUCH THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S BEING PAID RIGHT NOW, YOUR HONOR.

SO THE METRO FUND, UH, AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.

YEAH.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

CORRECT.

WE'RE CLEARLY PACING, UH, LESS THAN THAT.

THE POINT IS THAT THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP, UH, AT THIS GRANULAR LEVEL IS TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE, WE TRY SO HARD TO OFFER THIS AMENITY, AND WE NEED COMMUNITY HELP AS WELL TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, THAT RIDING THE BUS IF YOU WORK IN THE SHORE, IS FREE, YOU KNOW, TO AND FROM IT'S FREE.

AND THAT'S AN AMAZING AMENITY.

AND IT'S DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY, UH, TO REDUCE, UH, PARKING AND MAKE PARKING MORE AVAILABLE FOR THE VISITING SHORE AND, AND ALL OF US.

SO WE'VE TRIED, UH, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM.

OF COURSE.

UH, WE'VE TRIED PUBLIC OUTREACH WITH, UH, NEWSPAPER STORIES AND, UM, EMAIL, EMAILS AND BLASTS WITH, UH, THE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OR THE ASSOCIATION.

UH, SO WE, WE REALLY WANT THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US SPREAD THE WORD ON THIS AS WELL.

CREDIT PROGRAM, REALLY A GREAT PROGRAM.

WELL, ANY OTHER PUBLIC, UH, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ON BUS RIDER? ANY MOTION PLEASE? SORRY, DID YOU SAY PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M COMING.

OH, SECOND.

SORRY.

SORRY.

KAREN BLAIR RECOMMENDS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, WHAT IS WE NEED YOUR, WE NEED YOUR NAME.

OH, SORRY.

JULIE DEAN.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THERE ARE ON SECOND STREET? ? SO, LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY, A PUBLIC COMMENT IS AS YOU MAKE THE COMMENT, UH, AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T ENGAGE, UH, IN THE BACK AND FORTH.

UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY PUBLIC COMMENT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

YEAH.

UH, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THERE ARE ON SECOND STREET.

WELL, YEAH, FOR THAT ONE, I, I CAN, I CAN CHECK WITH STAFF JUST TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO SEE IF THEY HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR SECOND STREET, SO I CAN PROVIDE IT UNDER THE THOUSANDS.

WE'LL REPORT THAT , THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, UH, TO GO INTO THE ANALYTICS, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES, THE NUMBER ONE EMPLOYER IN THE CITY, OF COURSE.

AND THEN, UH, BUT IN SHORE, I'M NOT EXACTLY CERTAIN WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, NEVER TO FIND THE STOP.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENT PLEASE? UH, BRIAN COCHRAN BELMONT FOR OUR RESIDENT.

UM, TO ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF JULIE'S STATEMENT REGARDING THE RATIO, 88 RIDER SEEMS LIKE A PITANCE RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF WHAT WE ALMOST CERTAINLY ASSUME IS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES THAT EXIST ON SECOND STREET.

SO THE CITY, OR SOMEBODY CAN SEE, SHOULD BE PUTTING DATA BEHIND THAT.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE GRANULARITY OF WHY THEY'RE NOT DOING IT, NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE, WE WISH IT TO BE, ESPECIALLY SINCE MORE THAN 15 PARKLET APPLICATIONS ARE GOING UP FOR CITY COUNCIL.

EACH OF THEM WILL CITE IN THEIR, UH, REPORTS HOW THEY'RE USING THIS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT DATA TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF PARKING ON SECOND STREET.

WITHOUT THAT, THAT COMPONENT, THOSE ARE READING LISTS AND THEY JUST BUFFER THE STATEMENTS THAT EACH PARK IS DESERVING AND WORTHY OF SOMETHING.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT SOMEBODY PURSUE THIS MEANINGFULLY.

GET THE DATA BEHIND EACH OF THOSE.

THANK YOU.

UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND JAN CROWNING GAP.

ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

ITEM FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

RECEIVED AND FILE PRESENTATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS, THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY BUREAU REGARDING THE SECOND STREET CURB MANAGEMENT STUDY.

UH, AND YOU HAVE, UH, STAFF TO PRESENT THIS? YES.

GOOD MORNING.

I'LL STAND OVER THERE SO YOU CAN SEE.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, FOLKS.

UH,

[00:15:01]

I'M PAUL VAN D**E.

I'M THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

I'M BACK, UH, ROUGHLY A YEAR AFTER I WAS HERE.

LAST, UH, IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, UH, I GAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, IN RESPONSE TO CONCERNS WE WERE RECEIVING ABOUT, UM, PARKING PRACTICES IN THE SHORE.

UH, NAMELY, UM, FREIGHT LOADING, TAKING PLACE IN BUS STOPS, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, JUST GENERAL AVAILABILITY OF PARKING IN THE AREA.

UH, AND SO OUR STAFF IN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION, UH, CONDUCTED A SURVEY OF THE AREA DURING THE SUMMER DURING THE PEAK PERIOD.

UH, WE HAVE SOME, UM, ANALYSIS TO SHARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE, UH, IN DRAFT FORM RIGHT NOW.

BUT, UH, WE'VE COME BACK HERE FOR THIS MEETING, UH, TO SOLICIT SOME RESPONSES TO WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEFORE WE FINALIZE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN TAKE ACTION ON THEM.

BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HERE IS INFORMED ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT WE COLLECTED, THE, UM, CONCLUSIONS WE DREW, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE.

UM, I APOLOGIZE THAT A LOT OF, UM, THE CHARTS IN HERE ARE COLOR CODED, AND MOST OF YOU ALL ARE GONNA BE SEEING, UH, BLACK AND WHITE COPIES.

BUT, UM, A COLORIZED VERSION OF THIS PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.

UH, IN THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING, UH, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP, UM, AND TAKE A CLOSER LOOK, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN ALL THE IMAGES AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

AND THEN AT THE END, I'LL HAVE A QUESTION AND ANSWER, UH, AGAIN, TO FACILITATE THAT DIALOGUE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

YEAH.

MELINDA, I THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE DOING A POWERPOINT.

DO YOU HAVE COPIES OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS? YEAH, THERE.

HERE'S ONE.

DID QUITE A FEW OF US, I HAD GRABBED AN AGENDA TOO, SO IF THOSE ALL GOT SNATCHED UP, THERE'S AN EXTRA ONE.

YEAH.

AND ONE LAST COMMENT, IF YOU CAN SIGN IN, UM, YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR EMAIL AND I CAN ALWAYS FOLLOW UP AND I CAN SEND EVERYONE, UM, THE, THE, THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, YES, LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, YEAH, I WAS HERE LAST FEBRUARY, UH, TALKING MAINLY ABOUT THE CITY'S EXISTING PROGRAMS AROUND CURB MANAGEMENT.

CURB MANAGEMENT IS HOW WE MANAGE ACCESS TO, UH, PARKING SPACES AROUND TOWN THROUGH VARIOUS PROGRAMS LIKE OUR VALET PROGRAM, FREIGHT LOADING ZONE REQUESTS, UM, METERED PARKING, UH, ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES, UH, HOURLY RESTRICTIONS, UH, THOSE TYPES OF PRACTICES.

UH, WE HAD TOUCHED BRIEFLY ON, UM, SOME OF THE BENEFITS, UM, AND COSTS OF THOSE VARIOUS PROGRAMS, UH, NAMELY THAT, UM, THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT WE HAD IN PLACE WAS ENTIRELY REQUEST BASED.

UH, AND THERE WAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT BY, UM, TAKING A MORE HOLISTIC LOOK AT THIS DI, THIS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR, UH, TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE THOSE LOADING ZONES ARE PLACED, HOW THEY'RE ORGANIZED, AND THEN ALSO TRACKING WHAT, UM, THE PARKING PATTERNS ARE LIKE ON SECOND STREET TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CONDITIONS THAT ARE MORE RESPONSIVE TO PUBLIC DEMAND, UH, FOR PARKING ALONG THE CURB.

SO, UH, WHAT WE HAD, UH, INITIALLY RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT WE WERE GONNA BE LOOKING AT FOR THIS, UH, EVALUATION WERE THE POTENTIAL FIXES ON THE SECOND, UH, SLIDE HERE, MOSTLY DESIGNATING PREFERRED AREAS FOR DIFFERENT LOADING TYPES.

UH, ORGANIZING BLUE ZONES CLOSER TO THE A DA RAMPS, UH, HAVING, UH, APPROPRIATELY SIZED LOADING ZONES IN YOUR ALLEYS AWAY FROM BUS STOPS.

AND THEN ALSO HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE CURB ASSESSMENT, UH, FOR VARIOUS BUSINESS DISTRICTS AROUND TOWN.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A PILOT, UH, EVALUATION HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE LESSONS LEARNED IN BELMONT SHORE AND APPLY 'EM CITYWIDE IN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE HAVE CONCENTRATIONS OF BUSINESSES.

UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, CONTENTS, UH, THIS IS OUR OVERVIEW SLIDE.

SO A TABLE OF CONTENTS FOR, UH, THE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE STUDY METHODOLOGY, UH, THE FINDINGS OF THAT STUDY.

UH, WE'LL ALSO BE SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON, UH, THIS STUDY.

AND THEN I'LL, I'LL TOUCH BASE ON, UH, NEXT STEPS, UH, AT THE END.

NEXT SLIDE SHOWS A MAP OF SECOND STREET.

SO, UM, OUR STUDY AREA WAS SECOND STREET BETWEEN LIVINGSTON DRIVE AND BAYSHORE AVENUE.

UH, FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR, UH, SECOND STREET HAS TWO TRAVEL LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.

IT HAS LANDSCAPE MEDIAN, UM, CHERYL, BIKE LANES, SIDEWALKS, AND METERED ON STREET PARKING, AS WELL AS, UH, BUS STOPS AND OTHER, UM, VARIOUS SPECIAL CURB ZONES RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION.

UH, THE SLIDE AFTER THAT HAS AN ILLUSTRATION OF AN EXAMPLE STREET.

THIS IS A REPEAT SLIDE FROM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, UH, IN FEBRUARY.

UH, THIS IS FROM A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT FROM, UH, NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION, UH, DESIGN GUIDANCE DOCUMENT, UH,

[00:20:01]

HIGHLIGHTING HOW, UM, VARIOUS PROGRAMS ALONG THE CURB CAN PROVIDE MORE EFFICIENCY FOR PROVIDING PEOPLE, UM, IN THE CASE OF BUSINESS DISTRICT PROVIDING, UH, PEOPLE'S WALLETS MORE ACCESS TO BUSINESSES, UH, UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR.

SO YOU'LL NOTE THAT IT, IT, UM, GOES INTO DETAIL WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, UH, AGAIN, AND THEIR WALLETS, UM, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ARRIVE AT A GIVEN DESTINATION BASED ON A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CURB MANAGEMENT.

SO, UH, IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, A BUS STOP, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE UP TO A THOUSAND RIDERS A DAY.

UH, TYPICAL METER SPOT CAN ACCOMMODATE 15 VEHICLES A DAY.

UH, YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S ALL LAID OUT THERE.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE ON METHODOLOGY INCLUDES, UH, A PHOTO OF THE STREET AS WELL AS THE MAP.

UM, THE DATA COLLECTION AS PART OF OUR EVALUATION WAS CONDUCTED IN JULY AND AUGUST.

WE WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT BEING AROUND, UM, COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION, UM, IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, INCLUDING A FRIDAY EVENING, UM, SATURDAY MIDDAY SUNDAY MIDDAY, AS WELL AS A WEEKDAY MORNING AND A WEEKDAY AFTERNOON.

UH, WE HAD STAFF IN CITY VEHICLES WITH CAMERAS MOUNTED ON THE FRONT GRILL, UM, SO THAT WE CAN COLLECT LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO TRACK DWELL TIMES FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED IN ANY GIVEN SPACE OR PARK OUTSIDE OF A ACTUAL SPACE.

UH, AND THOSE, THAT FOOTAGE WAS COLLECTED OVER A CONTINUOUS TWO HOUR PERIOD.

AND THEN THAT WAS SYNTHESIZED BY, UM, ONE OF OUR COUNT VENDORS THAT THE CITY HAS IN THE CONTRACT.

AND THEN THEY GAVE US A, A SUBSTANTIAL DATA SET OF, UM, AGAIN, HOW MUCH TIME INDIVIDUAL VEHICLES WE'RE SPENDING AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS ON SECOND STREET.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE HAS TWO HIGH CHARTS.

UH, ONE, UH, ON THE LEFT, UH, SHOWS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING AVAILABLE ON THE SIDE STREETS BETWEEN SECOND STREET AND THE ALLEY, EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH OF SECOND STREET.

UM, THE OTHER HALF SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES, UH, POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE ON SECOND STREET WITHIN SECOND AREA.

SO WE WENT REALLY MORE INTO DEPTH ON THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ON SECOND STREET PROPER, RATHER THAN THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE CROSS STREETS.

UH, 'CAUSE OUR INTENT HERE WAS TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ENCOURAGED, UH, PARKING AVAILABILITY AND ACCESS TO THE BUSINESSES, UM, ON SECOND STREET THAT ARE LEAST LIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE TO VEHICLES TRAVELING UP AND DOWN THE VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL ALLEYS.

UH, THE INTENT HERE IS TO PROVIDE A DESIGN FOR SECOND STREET THAT MINIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF CIRCULATING TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THAT KIND OF CRUISING BEHAVIORS.

PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR AN AVAILABLE PARKING SPACE.

UH, THE INTENT HERE IS TO PROVIDE A DESIGN FOR SECOND STREET THAT MAKES SURE THAT IF SOMEONE IS ARRIVING ON SECOND STREET, LOOKING TO PATRONIZE A BUSINESS, PICK SOMEONE UP, WHATEVER, UH, MAKE A DELIVERY, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FIND A SPACE TO CONDUCT THAT ACTIVITY ON SECOND STREET WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE THOSE LOOPS, UM, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE PROPERLY IDENTIFYING THAT AND ALSO MANAGING OUR RESOURCES FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY, WE LOOKED SPECIFICALLY AT THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ON SECOND STREET.

SO, UM, THE PIPES ARE ON THE RIGHT IS COMPRISED OF THOSE 186 SPACES THAT ARE ON SECOND STREET.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PARKING ON SECOND STREET IS METERED, TWO HOUR PARKING.

UH, AND THEN THERE ARE REDUCED AMOUNTS WHERE WE SEE, UM, 30 MINUTE PARKING OR TWO MINUTE, UH, PASSENGER DROP OFF PARKING, UH, 15 PARKLET SPACES.

UM, THERE ARE 24 SPACES THAT ARE TECHNICALLY BUS STOPS, UM, BUT, UH, SOME FOLKS, UH, TAKE THEM AS THEIR OWN PARKING SPACES THAT WE'VE OBSERVED.

AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR SPACES THAT ARE DEDICATED TO EMERGENCY ACCESS, UH, FROM THE FIRE STATION.

UM, WE, UH, YEAH, ARE LOOKING AT 10 PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY AFFECTED BY PARKLET PERMITS.

THAT NUMBER WAS AS HIGH AS 40 DURING THE PANDEMIC.

UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY BASING THIS, UM, 10 PARKING SPACE NUMBER, UH, OR 15 SPACE, UM, NUMBER, SORRY, LET ME SAY THAT CORRECTLY.

UH, WE ARE ASSUMING THAT THERE ARE 15 PARKLET SPACES ON SECOND STREET FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS STUDY.

BASED ON THE PERMITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN RECEIPT, UM, BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY 10, UM, THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO PARKLETS, BUT WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THERE WILL BE CONTINUED INTEREST IN THAT PROGRAM WITH MORE PERMITS, UM, IN THE WORKS.

SO, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, THERE ARE ACTUALLY MORE PARKING SPACES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.

THERE ARE 89 ON THE NORTH, UH, 101 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

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THE STREET.

UH, AND AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THIS EVALUATION WAS TO IDENTIFY METHODS THAT, UH, ALLOW FOR CONVENIENT, UM, PREDICTABLE ACCESS ON SECOND STREET, UH, THAT MITIGATE THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE GOING ON, UH, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE, UM, UH, A BAR CHART, UM, THAT HAS PAIRED BARS ON IT, UH, DETAILING PARKING OCCUPANCY, UH, BASED ON THE DAY, UH, AND TIME THAT WE OBSERVE TRAFFIC.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, TYPICALLY NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE HAVE VERY SIMILAR RATES OF OCCUPANCY, UH, WITH THE HIGHEST BEING ON FRIDAY EVENINGS, UH, UP TO 96 OR 99% OF THE PARKING SPACES BEING OCCUPIED.

UH, THE LOWEST IS ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS WHERE YOU SEE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PARKING SPACES OCCUPIED.

UM, YEAH, AND ANYTHING REALLY OVER 85%, UM, IS CONSIDERED, UH, REALLY HIGH DEMAND PERIOD.

WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE CONDITIONS ON SECOND STREET WHERE WE HAVE 10 TO 15% AT LEAST, OF THE PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE, AGAIN, SO PEOPLE HAVE PREDICTABLE, RELIABLE ACCESS TO THE CURB TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, UM, QUICK DROP OFFS.

SO, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, ON FINDINGS ON ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES, UH, WE NOTED, UH, BOTH ILLEGAL PARKING FROM PASSENGER CARS AS WELL AS FROM HEAVY VEHICLES LIKE, UH, BOX TRUCKS, SEMI-TRUCK, AS WELL AS NOTING, UM, SITUATIONS.

WE HAD OVER 100% OCCUPANCY.

SO, UM, ALL OF THE PARKING SPACES WERE FULL, AND FOLKS WERE ALSO PARKING, EITHER DOUBLE PARKED OR, UM, IN RED CURB.

UM, SO HIGH OCCUPANCY, UH, MEANS, YEAH, LEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES.

UH, THE HIGHEST ILLEGAL PARKING CONDITION WAS ON FRIDAY EVENING, WHERE WE HAD 22 VEHICLES, UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE 99% OF THE PARKING SPACES WERE OCCUPIED.

UM, THE LOWEST ILLEGAL PARKING RATE, UH, WAS ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS, UH, FOR VEHICLES.

HOWEVER, UM, A NUMBER OF THOSE VEHICLES WERE ACTUALLY THE OVERSIZED VEHICLES PARKING IN THE BUS STOPS.

AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, UM, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, HOW WE CAN HAVE A CONDITION WHERE, UM, ONLY A THIRD OF THE PARKING SPACES ARE OCCUPIED, BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL, UH, PARKING ILLEGALLY.

UM, NEXT, UH, NEXT SLIDE HAS A TABLE, UM, DETAILING THE STUDY PERIOD, THE NUMBER OF ILLEGAL PARKED VEHICLES, SOME THE HEAVY VEHICLES, UH, AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN OUR VEHICLES ARE PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES OBSERVED, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPANCY IN THE DISTRICT.

SO FRIDAY EVENING, YOU SEE, UM, IS WHEN IT'S THE TOUGHEST TIME TO FIND A PARKING SPACE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY THAT FRIDAYS ARE VERY POPULAR TIMES DOWN HERE.

UM, BUT OF NOTE, UM, IS THE SIX TRUCKS PARKED IN BUS STOPS, UH, ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS.

UM, SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

UH, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THAT DEMAND FOR LOADING ZONES IS PARTICULARLY ACUTE, UM, IN THE MORNINGS ON WEEKDAYS, WHEREAS PASSENGER CAR ACCESS IS AN ISSUE PRIMARILY ON WEEKENDS, UH, AND IN THE EVENING, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE HAS A MAP OF SECOND STREET, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS WHERE HAVING THE, THE BLACK AND WHITE VERSION MAKES IT TOUGHER TO, TO SEE, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO CONVEY, AND I RECOMMEND FOLKS TAKING A LOOK AT THE COLOR VERSION ONLINE, UM, ACCURATE AVAILABILITY.

BUT, UM, FOR THE MOST PART, UM, WHAT WE DID OBSERVE WAS THAT ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES WERE PRIMARILY PARKING, UM, NEAR CORNERS.

SO EITHER IN EXISTING RED CURB, UM, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY OR RED CURB THAT'S, UM, DEDICATED TO A BUS STOP.

UH, ALSO NOTED THAT MOST OF THE LARGE VEHICLES COINCIDED WITH BUS STOPS, UH, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO PULL A LARGE TRUCK INTO A SPACE AND YOU CAN USE THE INTERSECTION TO PERFORM YOUR MANEUVER.

SO ALMOST ALL OF THE TRUCKS THAT WERE PARKED ILLEGALLY WERE ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION, WHICH IS TYPICALLY, UM, WHERE A BUS STOP IS.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, IS MOSTLY TEXT.

UH, THE HEADLINE IS LENGTH OF STAY.

UM, SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT REALLY INFORMED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO, UM, THE AVERAGE STAY OF THE VEHICLE, UH, DEPENDED ON THE TIME OF DAY.

UH, WEEKDAY MORNINGS WAS THE SHORTEST, UH, FRIDAY EVENINGS WAS THE LONGEST, UM, BUT VERY FEW VEHICLES STAY FOR THE FULL TWO HOURS THAT ARE AVAILABLE BASED ON THE CURRENT PARKING METERS.

IF YOU RECALL THE SLIDE THAT WAS EARLIER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, ALMOST TWO THIRDS OF THE AVAILABLE PARKING IS, UM, SET ASIDE FOR TWO HOUR PARKING WITH SMALLER NUMBERS, UM, FOR THE REDUCED PARKING.

I'LL, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END IF OH, OKAY.

BUT IT DOES RELATE SPECIFICALLY, I THINK THERE'S A FLAW IN YOUR RESEARCH.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.

OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

UM, AND THEN, UH, MANY VEHICLES

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STAYED FOR, UM, ONLY ONE PASS.

UH, ON FRIDAY EVENINGS.

IT WAS 30%, UH, 58% ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS.

UH, SO HERE WE'RE KIND OF MOVING ON FROM THE ILLEGAL PARKING, LOOKING AT, UM, THE TYPE OF PARKING DEMAND THAT WE SEE ON SECOND STREET.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, ALSO ANOTHER TABLE, UH, DETAILING THE LENGTH OF THE STAY.

UH, AND AGAIN, THE, THIS, UM, THIS DISTRICT IS PRIMARILY ORGANIZED INTO TWO HOUR PARKING, WHICH ACTUALLY SUITS, UH, A SMALL FRACTION OF THE PARKING DEMAND IN THE AREA.

YOU'LL SEE, UH, FRIDAY EVENING, RIGHT, 11% OF THE VEHICLES ARE PARKING FOR THE FULL TWO HOURS, UH, 1%, UH, FOR SOME OF THE OTHER 94%, UH, ALSO ON, ON WEEKEND PERIODS.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE GETS INTO, UM, A DA ACCESSIBILITY.

SO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES ARE PRO AG, UM, AS WE CALL IT, UH, IN CITY HALL, UH, CALLS FOR, UM, AT LEAST ONE EIGHT A DA ACCESSIBLE, UH, ON STREET PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY 25 PARKING SPACES.

SO, UM, THE CITY DOES HAVE A REQUEST SPACE PROGRAM FOR ACCESSIBLE PARKING.

UM, WE WILL BE MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL ACCESSIBLE PARKING ON SECOND STREET AS PART OF THIS EFFORT.

UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNAWARE, UM, A DA, UM, ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES, THOSE THAT HAVE THE, THE BLUE SYMBOL ON THEIR LICENSE PLATE OR HAVE A PLACARD, UM, ON THEIR MIRROR, ARE EXEMPT FROM TIME-BASED RESTRICTIONS.

SO THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM PARKING METERS.

SO, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITION, FOLKS WITH A PLACARD CAN PARK IN ANY OF THE METER ZONES, UM, FOR FREE, FOR AS LONG AS THEY NEED, UM, SO THAT FOLKS, UM, WHO HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY ARE ABLE TO FAIRLY GET TO AND FROM THEIR DESTINATION WITHOUT BEING PENALIZED FOR POTENTIALLY MOVING SLOWER, UM, THAN A TYPICAL, UH, MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

SO, UM, CURRENTLY, UM, THERE ARE ZERO GO ZONES, UH, ON SECOND STREET, UH, FOR, UM, UH, ECOSYSTEM OF PARKING LIKE WE HAVE HERE, UH, OF 348 SPACES, UH, ROUGHLY 15 SHOULD BE, UM, ACCESSIBLE.

SO THAT WORKS OUT TO ROUGHLY ONE PER BLOCK.

AND SO, UM, YEAH, KEEP NOTE OF THAT, WE'LL BE TOUCHING ON THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO HAVE THOSE PLACARDS, FOLKS WHO HAVE THOSE PLATES, ARE ALREADY EXEMPTED FROM, FROM METER REVENUE.

UH, SO TAKEAWAYS, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE OBSERVED WAS THAT THERE WAS, UH, A GOOD DEAL OF UNPREDICTABILITY, UH, WITH REGARDS TO PARKING AVAILABILITY, ESPECIALLY DURING, UM, WEEKEND PERIODS.

UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WITHIN THE TRAFFIC TEAM, WE DO A LOT OF, UM, RESEARCH.

UH, WE KEEP UP TO DATE ON RESEARCH ON DIFFERENT TRAVEL PATTERNS.

UM, AND ALSO JUST SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, UH, I THINK A LOT OF REASON BEHIND, UM, ANXIETY OR DETERRENCE TOWARD DRIVING PLACES IS USUALLY BASED ON PREDICTABILITY, RIGHT? UM, IF YOU HAVE A LONG COMMUTE ON THE FREEWAY, I DON'T THINK THE, THE ACTUAL COMMUTE IS REALLY THE BIG PROBLEM.

IT'S THE ANXIETY OVER, IS IT GONNA BE TRAFFIC? AM I GONNA BE 30 MINUTES LATE? I DON'T KNOW.

IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE GOT IN A CRASH ON THE FREEWAY.

UM, SIMILARLY WITH PARKING, UM, THAT CAN ALSO BE A DETERRENT.

IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON GOING SOMEWHERE AND YOU'RE NOT CONFIDENT, YOU'LL HAVE A PARKING SPACE, UM, THAT CAN BE A DETERRENT TOWARD, UM, DRIVING SOMEWHERE.

YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT IN ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND TOWN.

UM, ALAMEDA BEACH, OTHER PARKING IMPACTED AREAS, INCLUDING THE BELMONT SHORE.

UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY CONCERN ABOUT BEING ABLE TO FIND A PARKING SPACE ONCE YOU GET TO A DESTINATION, WHICH CAN DETER, UM, FOLKS ARRIVING IN A GIVEN AREA.

SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO, BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, IS TO PROVIDE MORE PREDICTABILITY, PROVIDE, UH, CONDITIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN EXPECT TO FIND A CONVENIENT SPACE FOR THEM AS THEY ARRIVE IN THE DISTRICT, WHETHER IT'S TO DROP SOMEONE OFF OR GET SOMEONE UP, RUN IN FOR A TAKEOUT ORDER, UH, OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE WERE OBSERVING.

AGAIN, UM, THAT DEMAND FOR CURB ACCESS, THAT'S 30 MINUTES OR LESS, UH, OR 20 MINUTES OR LESS.

UH, ANOTHER TAKEAWAY FROM THIS, UH, EVALUATION WAS THAT THERE WAS ILLEGAL PARKING DURING ALL STUDY PERIODS.

UM, AND, UH, OUR FINDINGS WERE THAT, THAT THAT'S GENERALLY CAUSED BY A LACK OF AVAILABLE SPACES, BUT ALSO, UM, JUST BASED ON A LACK OF CONVENIENT, UM, PARKING SPACES.

SO, UH, AGAIN, HERE'S THAT DIAGRAM, UM, OF BEST PRACTICES FOR CURB MANAGEMENT.

UM, REALLY PRIORITIZING, AGAIN, RELIABLE, UM, BUS STOP, BUS SERVICE, UH, TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE AREA, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, LOADING ZONES, WHICH CAN, UM, FACILITATE MORE PASSENGER DROP OFFS.

UM, BUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, PRINCIPLES FOR SECOND STREET, UH, AGAIN, UH, HIGH VOLUME OF VISITS,

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HIGH DEMAND, UM, FOR ACCESS TO THE CURB IS FOR, UM, 20 MINUTES OR LESS.

SO, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, PREDOMINANTLY, UH, PROVIDING TWO HOUR PARKING.

UH, THERE ARE MUCH FEWER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT 30 MINUTE PARKING.

UM, THE PRESENCE OF HEAVY VEHICLES IN THE BUS STOP SHOWS A LACK OF SPACES THAT ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE TRUCKS FOR COMMERCIAL LOADING.

SO WHAT WE HAD OBSERVED, UM, DURING THOSE OFF PEAK PERIODS WHEN THE LOADING IS TAKING PLACE, IS THAT ALTHOUGH PARKING SPACES WERE ONLY 30%, 40% OCCUPIED, THEY WERE PARKED IN SUCH A WAY THAT A LARGER VEHICLE THAT WOULD NORMALLY NEED 40 TO 60 FEET OF PARKING WASN'T ABLE TO FIND A SPACE LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF THE RANDOM PARKING DEMAND, UM, IN THE INDIVIDUAL STALLS, UM, UP AND DOWN THE DISTRICT.

SO YOU'D HAVE ONE CAR PARKED, ONE SPACE OPEN, ONE CAR PARKED, ONE SPACE OPEN.

AND SO, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PLENTY OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE, THERE WEREN'T ANY THAT WERE CONNECTED IN A WAY THAT WAS LONG ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE TO PULL A TRUCK IN, UM, AND CONDUCT THEIR LOADING.

THE ONLY PLACES WHERE WE DID HAVE CURB SET ASIDE FOR LARGE VEHICLES WAS FOR LARGE VEHICLES THAT WERE BUSES.

SO, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVIDE, UM, ADEQUATE LOADING SPACE FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO MAINTAIN, UM, YEAH, PROPER CLEARANCE WITHIN THE BUS STOPS.

AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT, UM, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE, UM, A SYSTEM OF PARKING, A SYSTEM OF CURB MANAGEMENT THAT PROVIDES EASILY IDENTIFIABLE PARKING SPACES FOR FOLKS, UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT RESULTING IN A CONDITION WHERE PEOPLE ARE CIRCULATING, UM, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, OKAY.

SO STRATEGIES FOR SECOND STREET ON NEXT SLIDE.

UM, TO MEET THE HIGHER TURNOVER NEEDS, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING AT LEAST ONE, UH, SHORT TERM PARKING SPACE FOR EACH BLOCK.

AGAIN, THE, THE PRIMARY DEMAND THAT WE OBSERVED WAS PEOPLE ARE COMING TO SECOND STREET LOOKING TO PARK FOR 30 MINUTES OR LESS.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE TYPES OF SPACES.

UH, WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING PROVIDING YELLOW CURB ON EVERY BLOCK, UH, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, EFFECTIVELY A LOADING ZONE DURING THE DAYTIME PERIOD.

SO OUTSIDE OF THAT PEAK DEMAND, RIGHT? IT, IT WOULDN'T BE FUNCTIONING AS A LOADING ZONE DURING FRIDAY NIGHTS.

UH, WHEN WE SEE THAT PEAK DEMAND, THEY WOULD TRANSITION THEN, UM, TO, UH, PARKING.

UM, BUT PROVIDING THOSE LONGER SPACES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, UH, FOLKS LOADING AND UNLOADING IN A PREDICTABLE SPACE THAT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH THE BUS STOP.

UH, THEN WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING A DA ACCESSIBLE OR, OR BLUE CURB PARKING SPACES, UM, ON, UH, YEAH, EVERY BLOCK, ESSENTIALLY.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE DIAGRAM LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING TO REMOVE THE PEAK HOUR RESTRICTION FOR, UM, TWO MINUTE SPACES FOR PASSENGER LOADING SPACES, UH, BETWEEN CLAREMONT AND BAY SHORE.

UH, AND THEN MY STAFF WILL ALSO BE DETERMINING THE FEASIBILITY OF AUTOMATED PARKING ENFORCEMENT TO HELP TO NOT ONLY PROVIDE THAT CARROT OF PROVIDING MORE CONVENIENT, PREDICTABLE PARKING, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CARROT AND THE STICK ANALOGY, UH, THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT BEING THAT STICK.

SO COMING AT IT FROM TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LEGAL PRACTICES, BUT THEN ALSO HAVING AN ENFORCEMENT PIECE, UM, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE STILL, UM, OPTING NOT TO PARK IN AN OFFICIAL SPACE.

SO THE NEXT CHART SHOWS, UM, YEAH, AGAIN, PIE CHARTS OF THE EXISTING CONDITION, WHICH AGAIN, IS DOMINATED BY TWO HOUR PARKING VERSUS OUR PROPOSED CONDITION, WHICH HAS MORE SHORT TERM SPACES, UH, ACCESSIBLE, UH, PARKING SPACES, AS WELL AS LOADING ZONES.

UM, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO REPURPOSE, UH, 54 OF THE A HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN TWO HOUR METER PARKING SPACES.

AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE METER PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ON SECOND STREET, NOT THE METER SPACES THAT ARE ON, UM, THE INTERSECTING ALLEY OR ANY OF THE PARKING THAT'S IN THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS.

UH, ALL OF THE BUS STOP AND FIRE STATION CURB, UH, IS TO REMAIN.

WE'RE ALSO EXPECTING TO MAINTAIN, UM, THE CURRENT PARKING SPACE IS DEDICATED, UH, TO PARKLETS.

BUT AGAIN, THE VISION HERE IS TO PROVIDE PREDICTABLE, CONVENIENT ACCESS.

SO IF SOMEONE'S PLANNING A TRIP TO MONT SHORE, THEY CAN COUNT ON BEING ABLE TO PULL IN WHERE THEY WANT IT TO, TO GET WHAT THEY NEED WITHOUT HAVING TO CIRCLE A COUPLE BLOCKS OR, OR DOUBLE PARK, UM, TO FINALIZE THEIR TRIP.

SO, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SHOWN ON THE NEXT SLIDES.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE, THE BLACK AND WHITE COPIES.

I'LL DO MY BEST TO DESCRIBE, UH, WHAT'S SHOWN HERE.

UH, WE'LL SEE, UH, SOME DARKER RECTANGLES WITH THE, UM, ACCESSIBILITY SYMBOL ON THERE, UM, SHOWING THAT THERE ARE, UM, ACCESSIBLE SPACES, UM, NEAR THE CROSSWALK RAMPS, UM, ON EVERY BLOCK.

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WE'RE ALSO SHOWING LOADING ZONES ON THAT FAR SIDE SITE WHERE WE SAW THAT DEMAND, UM, FOR TRUCK PARKING ON EVERY BLOCK, UM, AT LEAST ONE PER BLOCK, NOT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

JUST ONE, UM, ON EACH BLOCK.

AND THEN, UH, ALSO SHOWING, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL FREIGHT LOADING AND ACCESSIBLE PARKING, UH, NEAR THE BAY SHORE LIBRARY, UH, WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE RED CURB, UM, BEFORE YOU GET TO BAYSHORE.

SO, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE IS DETAILING THE NEXT STEPS.

WE'RE ALMOST SET THE QUESTION AND ANSWER.

UM, SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE TO FINALIZE THE REPORT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET HERE TODAY.

UM, WE'D BE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THIS SPRING, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT PEAK DEMAND PERIOD IN THE SUMMER.

UH, AND THEN OUR TEAM HERE IN PUBLIC WORKS WILL ALSO BE WORKING ON EXPLORING ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS AND POTENTIAL CODE UPDATES TO POTENTIALLY REGULATE THE SIZE OF TRUCKS THAT ARE MAKING DELIVERIES HERE.

UM, BUT REALLY THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, IS WE'VE COME UP WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN PUBLIC WORKS.

BUT THIS STARTED WITH A PUBLIC MEETING.

THIS STARTED WITH A PUBLIC REQUEST THAT WE DO SOMETHING.

AND SO BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HEARING SOMETHING AND GOING OFF AND DOING WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT.

THIS CAME FROM THIS GROUP.

AND SO WE WANT BE RESPONSIVE TO THIS GROUP AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE IS PALATABLE FOR ALL THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA.

SO, WITH THAT, I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO THE CHAIR, UM, TO FACILITATE QUESTION AND ANSWER.

BUT, UH, YEAH, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS HERE.

ALSO, UH, MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON THE LAST SLIDE, SO, UH, FEEL FREE TO SEND ME AN EMAIL IF YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THAT MAY NOT BE RELEVANT TO THE, THE WHOLE GROUP.

BUT, UH, YEAH, FEEL FREE TO SEND ME AN EMAIL AS WELL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, THIS IS GOING BE, UH, WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO SOME KIND TIME, TIME CONSTRAINTS RATHER.

UM, I WANT TO GIVE COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ASK QUESTIONS.

ALSO, THERE'S GONNA BE ABSOLUTE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO, UH, MAKE STATEMENTS.

UM, CAN I SEE A SHOW OF HANDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK WITH THIS PRESENTATION, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER'S JUST PUBLIC.

SO, 1, 2, 3, 4.

UH, WE SHOULD STICK TO THE THREE MINUTES, EDDIE? YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.

YEAH.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

AND THEN KAREN BLAIR MAKE A MOTION TO, OKAY.

LET, LET'S GO PROTOCOL.

UH, NEED A RECOMMENDATION.

I, OKAY.

AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP.

EXCUSE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

WERE, WERE YOU NOT GONNA TAKE QUESTIONS FOR PAUL SEPARATELY, OR FROM PAUL? YES, YES, I WILL.

I'M TRYING TO ADJUDICATE THIS SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

WE HAVE A PRETTY PACKED CALENDAR.

I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE UNTIL NOON.

SO, UM, WE'LL GO, WE'LL GO BRIEF ON, OKAY.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PARKING LOTS? WHY WEREN'T THEY INCLUDED IN THE STALLION STANDING? RIGHT.

SO THIS WAS COMING FROM A REQUEST FOR US TO MANAGE ACCESS TO THE BUS STOPS, UM, AS WELL AS LOOK AT, UM, ACCESSIBILITY UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR.

SO, UH, THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS ARE, ARE FUNCTIONING IN THEIR BASIC FORMAT OF PROVIDING, UM, ADDITIONAL LONGER TERM PARKING.

WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THAT HIGHER TURNOVER DEMAND THAT'S RESULTING IN A ILLEGAL PARKING, RIGHT.

UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT PRACTICE IS, WELL, I'M JUST GONNA POP INTO QUICK.

I'M GONNA GET IN AND OUT BEFORE PARKING ENFORCEMENT GETS HERE BEFORE I CAUSE A PROBLEM.

SO REAL, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR, RATHER THAN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PARKING EVALUATION OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.

SO THIS WAS COMING FROM AN AREA OF TRYING TO, UM, REALLY MITIGATE THOSE MORE ILLEGAL FORMS OF PARKING, RATHER THAN PROVIDE A COMPLETE ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE PARKING SITUATION.

WELL, AND THE WORST PART ABOUT AADA A MM-HMM, ON THE SIDE STREETS, UHHUH IS THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

PUT IN A BIKE THING, LIKE I BRING MY MOM, I CAN'T EVEN GET HER OUT TO CAR ON THAT SIDE.

I HAVE TO GO TO THE PARKING LOT.

YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GET THE WALKER, YOU'RE OUT THE CAR.

'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF THERE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU REALLY LOOK AT THAT, WHERE TO PUT IT SO THAT IT'S CONVENIENT FOR EVERYBODY.

AND SECONDLY, WITH THE LOADING ZONES, HOW MANY YOU WANT TO PUT IN THERE? I MEAN, THERE'S ENOUGH HEAVY TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT UNLOAD THE ALLEY.

BUT WITH FRIDAY EVENING BEING AUS, I KNOW YOU ADDRESSED THAT, BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REGULATE THAT? IS A BUSINESS OWNER GONNA GO OUT AND RAISE THE BLACK CLOTH OFF THE PARKING METER? YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? SO THAT'D BE THROUGH SIGNAGE.

SO, UH, WE WOULD HAVE SIGNS SAYING, YOU KNOW, FROM NINE TO SIX, THIS IS FOR FREIGHT LOADING FROM SIX TO WHATEVER THE UPPER LIMIT OF THE TIME RESTRICTIONS ARE.

DISTRICT, THIS IS FOR 30 MINUTE, TWO HOUR PARKING.

UM, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE COULD, THERE'S

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SO MUCH HERE TO UNDERSTAND DIGEST.

IT'S LIKE, I DON'T, AND I WANT THE COMMUNITY HAVE TIME TO TALK.

UH, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR YOU GUYS ACTUALLY FINALIZING RECOMMENDATIONS.

'CAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS ALL OF US WAKE UP ONE DAY AND GO TO OUR BUSINESSES OR LEAVE OUR HOMES, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A, SOME MAJOR ISSUES WITH WHAT WAS IMPLEMENTED.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE LIKE, ARE WE GONNA GET A FINAL SAY AGAIN.

LIKE, I JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS MEETING.

WHATEVER COMES OUTTA THIS.

AND THEN SOME THINGS GET DONE IN PUBLIC WORKS AND WE DON'T GET ANOTHER CHANCE ANOTHER BY THE APPLE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, 'CAUSE I MEAN, IT, IT IS ONE THING TO BE SITTING IN PUBLIC WORKS LOOKING AT DATA, BUT ANOTHER THING TO LIVE HERE AND WORK EVERY DAY, WE CAN SEE HOW THE FLOW WORKS WITH YOUR OWN EYES AND EXPERIENCE.

SO WHAT'S THE PROCESS? SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL BE RECEIVING THE COMMENTS THAT WE, UM, HEAR HERE.

WE'LL BE DOCUMENTING THOSE IN THE PROJECT FILE AND THEN ADDING A SUMMARY TO THIS REPORT, UM, DESCRIBING THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED AND ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES, UM, THAT COME FROM THE CONCERNS HERE.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT AND RELEASE IT, BUT WE WON'T TAKE ACTION ON IT IMMEDIATELY.

AGAIN, THE, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE, UM, THIS PARKING IMPLEMENTED IN TIME FOR SUMMER.

LIKE DOES IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL? DOES IT GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION? DOES IT GO TO LIKE, 'CAUSE LIKE I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE FEEDBACK AND THEN THE SHIP SALES AND THEN WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, I'M SCARED OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

SURE.

OKAY.

SO YEAH.

SO THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER PUBLIC WORKS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO UPDATE, UM, CURB MARKINGS THROUGHOUT TOWN WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL.

UM, BUT WE WILL BE, AGAIN, TRYING TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN COMMUNICATING THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED, FINALIZING THE DOCUMENT, RELEASING IT, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.

SO AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE IN HERE AFTER WE INCORPORATE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.

AGAIN, MY EMAIL'S HERE, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.

UM, I, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ACTION THAT'S DISRUPTIVE.

WE WANNA BE PROACTIVE AND HAVE THIS BE A BENEFIT TO THE DISTRICT.

SO COULD WE PREPARE A RESPONSE? WOULD WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL DAY TO, TO SO MUCH CAN WE PREPARE? I THINK, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER ANI IS ASKING IS, UH, WITH THE INPUT, UH, IS THE CITY GOING TO GO FORWARD ANYWAY AND, AND MAKE THESE CHANGES, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS? YEP.

IS THE CITY JUST GOING TO QUARTERLY MAKE THOSE HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF COMMUNITY OR COMMISSION INPUT? UH, NO.

NO.

SO THIS IS AGAIN, OUR RECOMMENDATION.

AND THIS BEGAN WITH THE REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, FROM THIS AREA.

AND SO AGAIN, TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.

UM, IF EVERY SINGLE PART OF THIS IS UNPALATABLE FOR THE DISTRICT, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL, HOW WILL THE DISTRICT KNOW IT'S ON HOW WELL THAT I'M, I'M HERE COLLECTING RESPONSES.

RIGHT? AND SO IF, IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF CONSENSUS HERE THAT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU'RE WAY OFF BASE WITH THIS.

WE DON'T THINK THIS WORKS FOR THIS AREA.

YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WERE HERE FOR HOW MANY HOURS IN THE SUMMER WITH YOUR VIDEO CAMERAS.

WE LIVE HERE, WE WORK HERE, WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

RIGHT.

TO GET THAT.

WILL THERE BE ANOTHER PRESENTATION TO PRESENT THE CHANGES, THE EXPECTATIONS? IF THERE'S ANY SERIOUS DEVIATION FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE BASED ON COMMENT, I'LL, I'LL CERTAINLY COME BACK AND GIVE AN UPDATE.

UM, BUT I'LL SEND OUT A MESSAGE, UM, AGAIN, WITH THE DOCUMENT, WITH THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED AND ANY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE.

UM, IF THAT IS SEEN AS SOMETHING FROM ANY OF THE STAKEHOLDERS HERE, THAT IS A MAJOR DEVIATION FROM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK.

OKAY.

THAT'S GRACIOUS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE REPUBLICAN YET.

YES.

SO STAND BY FOR BACK.

YES.

I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

UH, STREET SWEEPING, IS THERE ANY EFFECT OF EITHER SIDE STREETS OR THE MAIN STREETS? NO.

WE, WE KEEP THE EXISTING STREET SWEEPING.

WHAT, WHAT'S CURRENT SCHEDULE? UH, WELL, TODAY I SAW THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, I'D HAVE TO CHECK THAT.

WELL, THE HIGHEST, THE HIGHEST IMPACT IS ON THURSDAYS AND FRIDAYS SURE.

FOR STREET SWEEPING ON THURSDAYS AND FRIDAYS.

IS THAT TRUE? YEAH.

IS THAT APPROPRIATE? UH, WELL IT'S IN THE MORNING, RIGHT.

AND SO THE MORNING TIMES ON WEEKDAYS IS WHEN WE SAW, OKAY.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE LOWEST DEMAND, BUT THAT'S ALSO THE NIGHT BEFORE BECAUSE THAT'S FOUR 4:00 AM OR 6:00 AM TO EIGHT OR SOMETHING.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IF THAT'S A COMMENT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, THE STREET SWEEPING UPDATED, WE CAN, WELL, SO I, JUST A QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO STREET SWEEPING WHERE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO MOVE YOUR CAR IF THEY CAN, IF THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY TO SWEEP AROUND IT OR, OKAY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WITH THE, WHAT'S THE BUS FREQUENCY? THAT I'M NOT SURE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM ON BEACH TRANSIT.

BUT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE SCHEDULE, OR HOW, HOW OFTEN IS IT, HOW OFTEN IS IT

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SHOWING UP AT, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGNATED, UH, BUS STOP AND HOW LONG IS IT THERE? IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY WHERE THERE'S DIRECT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE BUS DRIVER AND OR VENDORS? YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN REAL TIME GPS CAN THEY SEE THAT THE BUS IS ON ITS WAY AND THAT DELIVERY DRIVER NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THERE, OR YOU CAN SIGN IT OR FIND OR WHATEVER.

UH, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE DESIGNATED SPOTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T, DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, THAT'D BE A PARTICULARLY COMPLEX SOLUTION.

UH, I, WE CAN DEFINITELY CHECK TO SEE IF OTHER AGENCIES DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'D BE SURPRISED.

I'M WILLING TO, BUT I, I'LL CHECK WITH FIND OUT.

YEAH, I'LL, I'LL CHECK WITH, UH, TRANSIT, IF THE BUS IS THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO HOURS.

OH, IT'S DEFINITELY MORE FREQUENT THAN THAT.

WELL, I GOT NO IDEA.

HALF AN HOUR TO 20 MINUTES.

YEAH.

EVERY HALF HOUR TO 20 MINUTES.

YEAH.

AND THERE'S, BUT, AND THERE'S ALSO TWO BUS LINES, SO THOSE CAN COME IN BETWEEN TOO MUCH TIME.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, SO NOW IN, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.

UM, WE'LL GO TO THREE MINUTES PER AND, AND WE WILL, UH, ACCOMMODATE, UH, A QUESTION AND ANSWER FORMAT FOR THAT.

'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE LIMIT IT TO THE THREE MINUTES BECAUSE OF TIME.

SO FIRST, FIRST PERSON, JULIE.

HI, PAUL.

JULIE DEAN.

UM, HE, SO THE ONE YELLOW LOADING ZONE, UM, FOR BOX TRUCK PER BLOCK, TAKING UP 2028 PARKING SPACES.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF TRUCKS THAT PARK IN THE BUS CENTERS ARE NOT BOX TRUCKS.

THEY'RE SEMIS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, THE STRONGEST ABUSERS ARE THE, FROM WHAT I'VE DOCUMENTED, THE BEER AND ALCOHOL SEMI DELIVERY TRUCKS WITH GATES AND RAMPS AND STUFF.

ALSO SHOULDN'T BOX TRUCKS SINCE THEY'RE SMALLER, BE GOING DOWN THE ALLEYS AND DOING DELIVERIES FROM THE ALLEYS.

OH, COMMENT.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, AGAIN, OUR, ONE OF OUR DIRECTIVES HERE WAS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ON THE AVENUES, UH, WHETHER IT'S BOX TRUCKS OR UH, PERSONAL VEHICLES.

UH, AND FOR THINGS THAT ARE LOADING RELATED OR HIGH TURNOVER, TO HAVE THOSE BE ON SECOND STREET SO THAT THEY SHOW UP AT A PREDICTABLE SPACE AND LEAVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF CIRCULATING THROUGH THE .

IT JUST SEEMS TO MEAN THAT THAT'S TOO MANY, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

IT MAKES, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO SEND THEM DOWN THAT LITTLE BIT OF SIDE STREET TO GET TO THE ALLEY RATHER THAN TAKING OUT ALL THOSE SPACES ON.

EXACTLY.

BUT THAT'S JUST, OKAY.

UM, ALSO THE 15 PARKLETS THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY EXIST, UM, NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED YET, BUT, AND SOME OF THEM WILL TAKE UP TWO SPACES, NOT ONE.

UM, IF THEY'RE APPROVED, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY WILL END UP BEING APPROVED.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF GAMING THE SYSTEM I INCLUDING THAT IS EXISTING.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A LOOK A LITTLE, YEAH.

WE WANTED TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER TO RECOGNIZE THAT PARKLETS ARE A PART OF THE PARKING DEMAND FOR THIS AREA.

AND THAT WAS OUR BEST ATTEMPT TO HAVE AN ESTIMATE.

HOW COULD YOU FACTOR IN 15 CARPETS THAT DON'T EXIST AND THE IMPACT AND THE, THE IMPACT THE STUDY EXISTED WITHOUT THERE BEING THERE AND HAVING AN IMPACT.

FOLKS, I WANT TO LIMIT THE COMMENTS OF THE PERSON COMMENTING SO THAT WE DON'T GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH, UH, THAT IT'S UNBALANCED.

SORRY, JUST .

WE'LL COME, WE'LL COME UP TO YOU.

I, I GUARANTEE IT.

SO JULIE, UM, YEAH, SO THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE AT ALL TO ME.

OKAY.

UM, SORRY.

UM, AND THEN KIND OF A SIDE TOPIC, BUT IT ADDRESSES THE PARKING SITUATION AND THE CURB STUDY IS WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR BUSINESSES AND THE TITLE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUS, FOR RESTAURANTS AND BARS.

UM, AND I'M STILL WONDERING HOW ROAD COULD TAKE AWAY SIX TO 12 PARKING SPACES TO BUILD THEIR BACK PATIO WHEN THEY HAVEN'T OFFSET THAT ANYWHERE FOR PARKING.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, REGARDING YEAH.

CONDITIONAL USE OR OTHER CHANGES.

RIGHT.

AND HOW THAT IMPACTS PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS EXERCISE IS WORKING ON MANAGING EXISTING PARKING DEMAND FOR SECOND STREET.

SO, BUT THAT'S HEAVILY, UM, IMPACTED BY THE FACT THAT RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND OTHER BUSINESSES ARE NOT PROVIDING PARKING.

THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, SECOND,

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UH, COMMENT PLEASE.

PLEASE.

ELLA, I'M HOMEOWNER HERE.

UM, YOU DID YOUR RESEARCH, YOUR SWEEP ON ONE EVENING, WHICH IS A FRIDAY NIGHT, AND YOU CONCLUDED THAT THERE ARE FEW PEOPLE THAT JUST NEED THE TWO HOURS.

I THINK HAD YOU DONE MORE SWEEPS IN THE EVENING? MM-HMM.

EVEN A WEDNESDAY OR A THURSDAY NIGHT, IT WOULD SKEW THE RESULTS SIGNIFICANTLY TO MORE PEOPLE THAT NEED TWO HOUR PARKING.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S A FLAW IN THE BASIC SET OF THE RESEARCH.

OKAY.

SECONDARILY, A DA, UM, IF THOSE WITH THE A PLACARDS CAN PARK ANYWHERE AND NOT PAY, THEN I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED DESIGNATED A DA SPOTS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE CANNOT PARK THERE.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THE A DA CAN PARK WHEREVER THEY LIKE.

SO THAT SEEMS TO BE A FLAW IN THE LOGIC, NOT SO MUCH THE RESEARCH.

AND ALSO I LIVE RIGHT OFF THE LITTLE PARKING LOT BETWEEN POMONA AND GLENDORA AND THERE ARE TWO A DA SPOTS THERE THAT ARE USUALLY AVAILABLE BY FARTHER AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE FAR SAFER BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN EMPTY SPACE, UM, NEXT TO THE SPOT SO THAT THE HANDICAPPED PERSON CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF THE CAR.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE ADAS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THEY, THE ADA A HAVE OPTIONS AND THERE ARE THOSE PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FURTHER.

OKAY.

MR. COCHRAN.

HI.

BRIAN COCHRAN, PUBLISH OR HI, PAUL.

YEAH.

UH, FIRST OFF, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A STUDY THAT ACTUALLY IS DATA DRIVEN, UH, IN COMPARISON TO THE DEEPLY FLAWED AND SPEED STUDIES, UH, SURVEYS THAT WERE CONDUCTED ON THE SUBJECT OF PARKWAYS PREVIOUSLY.

WE PUT THEIR THUMB ON SCALE AND WERE NOT ACCURATE DATA THROUGHOUT.

UM, I DO WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT 15TH PARKWAY ASSUMPTION AS A BEGINNING EXISTING STA STATUS HERE.

WHERE DID THAT ASSUMPTION COME FROM? WERE YOU INSTRUCTED TO BUILD THAT INTO THE STUDY OR DID YOU TAKE THAT ON YOURSELF? SO YEAH, THAT WAS AGAIN, OUR, OUR ATTEMPT TO ESTIMATE, UM, THE DEMAND FOR THAT TYPE OF PARKING SPACE.

RIGHT.

SO WE DID THAT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT HAD BEEN RECEIVED THROUGH OUR PERMIT TEAM.

UM, AND THEN KIND OF PROJECTED FROM THERE.

UH, WE ALSO TRIED TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE NUMBER BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE ABOUT PARKLETS.

RIGHT.

THAT RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF PARKLETS WITHIN A GIVEN BLOCK, OR I THINK IT WAS TWO BLOCK RADIUS.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT METHODOLOGY THAT WE USED TO RUN THAT NUMBER.

UM, THE ENGINEER THAT HELPED, UH, UM, CREATE THIS REPORT, UM, DID THOSE CALCULATIONS.

SO I DON'T, DON'T RECALL EXACTLY, BUT THE 15 SPACE IS INTENDED TO BE, UH, AN ESTIMATE FOR THAT PARKLET DEMAND.

OKAY.

SO MY COMMENT ON THAT IS THAT THE LOGIC OF IT IS INHERENTLY BIASED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T STUDY THE ACTUAL THING AS IT WOULD EXIST.

AND THE DISRUPTION CREATED BY ALL THE SUGGESTED CHANGES, WHICH ARE GOOD FOR THOSE RIGHT REASONS, DOESN'T FACTOR IN THE IMPACT OF THE SIDE STREETS AND THE RESIDENCE AT ALL.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO IMPACT OF, IF YOU TAKE 28 56, 71 SPACES AWAY, ADD IN 15 PARKLETS TO OCCUPY ONE, TWO SPACES EACH PLUS MORE LIKE THE APPLICANT WITHIN THE FUTURE, THERE'S NO WAY TO PROJECT THAT OUT.

'CAUSE THE STUDY DIDN'T LOOK AT IT.

SO BEFORE THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE RECEIVED AND MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT BE INCORPORATED AND EVALUATED FURTHER.

I ALSO WANT TO INVITE YOU FORMALLY TO PRESENT THIS AT THE BELMONT SHORE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION MEETING SO THAT MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE INPUT DIRECTLY AND NOT BE RANKED IN BY THE ARTIFICIAL LIMITS OF THIS STRUCTURE.

SO THERE'S THAT.

UM, I, I DO WANNA ASK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER POSITIVE PROGRAMS ALREADY PROCESSED IN OTHER AREAS? IS THIS THE FIRST AND ONLY ONE? WE'VE DONE A MUCH SMALLER SCALE.

ONE, UM, ON RETRO ROW, UH, AGAIN, TRYING TO, UH, MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF ILLEGAL PARKING.

UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAD CONTACTED MY OFFICE, UH, WITH REGARDS TO PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS AND COMPLETELY BLOCKING THEM IN THE MORNING TO RUN AND GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE.

UH, SOME ALTERCATIONS, UH, THAT RESULTED FROM THAT.

SO, UH, WE'VE DONE ANALYSIS LIKE THIS AT A MUCH SMALLER SCALE.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE APPLIED IT.

UM, MORE DISTRICTWIDE.

OKAY.

I GOTTA GO TIME.

PLEASE, SIR.

UH, NEXT RESIDENT PLEASE.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC, UH, CHRIS OCK HOMEOWNER? UM, HERE? I'M NOT SURE.

AND I'M, I'M HEARING EVERYTHING AND I APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S, UH, SOLUTIONS BASED ON SECOND STREET, BUT FOR ME AS A HOMEOWNER IN, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR PROBLEM IS PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES.

MM-HMM.

.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY CONSIDERATION HERE FOR THE FACT THAT, THAT ALL THESE SOLUTIONS ARE ONLY GONNA INCREASE THAT.

SO I DON'T HEAR ANY CONSIDERATION FOR US AS HOMEOWNERS WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, YEAH, THE INTENT HERE WAS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS PARKING AVAILABLE ON SECOND STREET.

'CAUSE I DON'T THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRIVING

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HERE ARE PLANNING ON PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT.

THEY WANT TO PARK AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN, UM, TO THE BUSINESS.

DID YOU SURVEY THAT? 'CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I FOR SURE, SUNDAY MORNING I'M WATCHING THE FOOTBALL JERSEYS ON TWO BLOCKS BACK.

THEY'RE ALL DAY, YOU KNOW, SO, AND THIS IS JUST ONE DAY OF THE WEEK.

YEAH.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESSES HAVE THEIR MOTIVATIONS, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE ARE BEING IGNORED AND THERE'S NO SOLUTIONS FOR US.

OKAY.

AND I, I GUESS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK AND SAY THAT WE'RE PART OF THIS PROCESS TOO, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT BEING CONSIDERED AT ALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC? YES, MA'AM.

I'LL PIGGYBACK THAT.

I'M, UH, CARRIE .

I ALSO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 20 YEARS WITH BOTH A RENTER AND NOW HOMEOWNER.

AND I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

WE USE A LOT OF BUSINESSES.

MY MAIN CONCERN IS FOR THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IN THE SUMMER, IT'S ONE THING WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE BEACH, YOU EXPECT THE TRAFFIC TO COME IN AND YOU CAN WORK AROUND IT.

RIGHT.

BUT THE MORE PARKING SPACES THAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM LONG-TERM PARKING, 'CAUSE I'LL BE HONEST, I, IF I HAVE TO RUN UP THE STREET AND I HAVE TO RUN DOWN AND I DON'T HAVE TIME, I'M A PERSON WHO'S IN AND OUT IN 20 MINUTES.

MM-HMM.

.

HOWEVER, WHAT I SEE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND UP AND DOWN THREE BLOCKS, FOUR BLOCKS, BECAUSE NOW MY NEIGHBORS ARE COMING IN FROM THAT FAR, IS PEOPLE WHO COME TO STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT LEGENDS.

MM-HMM.

, IF THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN SESAME FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME, THE LEGENDS PEOPLE ARE ON OUR STREET FOR EIGHT TO 10 HOURS.

WE CAN'T PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THIS WILL GO ON.

THERE ARE PEOPLE NOW THAT COME BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE LEARNING AS WELL.

PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'LL COME ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY NIGHT, THEY PARK THEIR CARS AND THEN THEY CARPOOL OUT.

SO ONE OR TWO CARS STAY THERE AND WE'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, WHERE ARE WE GONNA PARK? SO ON SUNDAY, I JUST WALK UP AND DOWN JUST OUR 100 BLOCK MM-HMM.

15 CARS ON OUR STREET.

WE'RE THERE FOR OVER 10 HOURS THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE.

AND WE'RE PARKED THREE BLOCKS AWAY.

SO THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOME, WHAT YOU DID ON SECOND STREET, I THINK IS GREAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS.

AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ADA SPOTS ON OUR STREET.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE USED AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT.

AND I THINK THEY'RE CONVENIENT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT I HAVE AN ELDERLY NEIGHBOR, AND SHE'S VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE NOW SHE CAN'T GET INTO HER A DA SPOT IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE.

SO SHE PARKS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND SOMETIMES I HELP HER CARRY HER STUFF DOWN THE STREET.

SO JUST I THINK MORE OF A, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WIDE SWEEP STUDY WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES.

UH, MELINDA , WE'VE LIVED HERE 40 YEARS.

WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE, EVERY STORY AND THE RUNNING DE THAT EVERY WEEK WAS ABOUT PARKING.

AND THERE WAS AN EFFORT BY THIS GROUP AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO REMOVE, TO TEAR DOWN EVERY HOUSE NEXT TO AN ALLEY ALONG SECOND STREET FOR PARKING.

SO THIS IS LONG TERM, RIGHT? AND IN THAT TIME, THERE BEEN A HUGE NUMBER OF NEW RESTAURANTS AND BARS THAT HAVE OPENED THAT TAKE UP PARKING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS.

UH, THE ISSUE WITH BUS STOPS IS THAT THE DELIVERY TRUCKS COME AND PARK IN A BUS STOP, LOWER THEIR RAMP, GET OUT THEIR ELECTRIC CAR, AND SERVE A NUMBER OF ALCOHOL PLACES OR RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA SO THEY CAN STAY THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

TWO BUSES MISS, UH, WERE NOT ABLE TO STOP THE DAY.

THE PASSENGERS HAD TO GET OFF IN THE STREET.

AND BESIDES THE, UH, PARKING IN THE BUS STOPS, UH, THE PLACE WINDOW JUST OPENED ON SATURDAY.

ONE OF THE DELIVERY TRUCKS BLOCKED THE ALLEY ACCESS TO QUINCY, THE OTHER ONE PARKED IN FRONT IN THE RED ZONE.

SO TRAFFIC FROM LIVINGSTON, NOT IN ENCOUNTER, A BIG TRUCK, PARKVILLE, WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS.

AND THE ISSUE OF PARKLETS, UH, THERE CRIPPLING THREE, THAT O'CLOCK THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS OF GOING TO CITY COUNCIL.

UH, YOUR OFFICE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS TELLS ME, UH, LET'S SEE.

PANAMA JOE IS COMING.

GEORGE HAS TALKED NEXT DOOR.

THAT'D BE FOUR SPACES.

NICK'S ON SECOND, I BELIEVE SATAN.

SECOND HAS IT IN MIND.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE ACTUALLY APPLIED.

SO WE PROBABLY ALREADY GOT 20 LOSING SPACES.

AND THOSE SPACES DON'T EMPTY UP AFTER THE BUSINESS HOURS.

SO IF THE BUSINESS IS OPEN FROM 11 TO 10, FROM 10 UNTIL 11, THE NEXT DAY, THAT'S STILL BLOCKED BY A PARK LOT.

THAT'S WHERE A DELIVERY TRUCK CAN BE RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE MORNING, A DELIVERY TRUCK CAN PARK IN FRONT OF LEGENDS OR THE OTHER LOCATIONS AND DO THEIR WORK.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT WHEN THERE'S A PARKLET.

SO I THINK YOU NEED TO FACTOR THOSE THINGS INTO YOUR EQUATION.

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AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE IN, UH, THERE'S NEW RESTAURANTS COME IN, BIG ONES.

JUST OPENED.

UH, SOUTH DICK'S IS COMING.

UH, THERE'S VERY LARGE RESTAURANTS WITH VERY MANY CUSTOMERS AND VERY MANY EMPLOYEES.

SO THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR SURE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE.

I, JEFF ARD, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER DOWN HERE ON SECOND STREET.

UM, MY COMMENT IS ACTUALLY JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF WHAT AARON BROUGHT UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, AND MATT, UM, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT IS OR ISN'T NEEDED TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.

MM-HMM.

, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THINGS LIKE LOADING ZONES AND A DA PARKING ARE VERY NEEDED.

UM, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE PARKLETS HAVE BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF THIS NEEDED AS FAR AS THE PARKLETS GO.

YOU KNOW, I GET WHY YOU WANT THEM VIA, WELL, I DO HAVE A RESTAURANT.

WE'RE NOT APPLYING FOR ONE, BUT I GET IT.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THERE'S LIMITED SPACE HERE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MULTIPLE THINGS MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT WE SHOULD REALLY, I WOULD AT LEAST CAUTION MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT BRIAN SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW THAT THERE, THERE'S X NUMBER OF SPACES THAT ARE ALREADY BEING, YOU KNOW, EARMARKED FOR THE PARKLETS.

I GET THAT.

UM, BUT LET'S JUST NOT ASSUME THAT THAT'S A DONE DEAL AND THEN START MAKING DECISIONS ON THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT FIRST.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I GET IT.

I GET, AS A RESIDENT, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PARK AT LEAST EVEN ON MY STREET, LET ALONE IN FRONT OF MY OWN HOUSE, , YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT YOU PAY FOR YOUR HOUSE DOWN HERE, UM, AND HAVING THE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOW WE, WE FEED OUR FAMILIES AND ALL.

AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO CO-MINGLE.

AND I, BELIEVE ME, I GET BOTH SIDES VERY CLEARLY.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF SLOW UP.

MY, MY POINT IS, I'M AFRAID THAT THINGS GOING FORWARD WILL BE SAYING SAME AS ALWAYS IN LONG BEACH.

MM-HMM.

.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.

LOVE THIS CITY.

BUT I'M AFTER YEARS OF DOING BUSINESS DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1980.

UM, I'M JADED AND I THINK, I THINK THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE SAY.

I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE.

UM, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL JUST TAKE THE TIME.

I, I LOVE THE POINT THAT AARON MADE UP.

WHAT ARE THE GIVING THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW MANY OPPORTUNITIES DO WE GET TO REALLY LOOK AT IT? AND WE MIGHT END UP, IT MIGHT BE THE RIGHT THING.

I DON'T KNOW.

PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, JUST HOPING IT'S NOT SAME OLD, SAME OLD FOR THE CITY.

MM-HMM.

OKAY.

.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? PLEASE? QUESTION.

AND I'M SORRY, I CAME IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, MY NAME'S BARBARA ELL.

UM, I'M A RESIDENT.

UM, IS THERE ANY, AS PART OF YOUR STUDY, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS CAN BE FACTORED IN, BUT, UM, OKAY.

MAYBE, MAYBE I SHOULD WORD IT THIS WAY.

COULD WE INCENTIVIZE, UH, THE PRIVATE PARKING LOTS TO, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE, TO CHASE BANK IS, UM, CLOSED, YOU KNOW, SATURDAY AFTERNOON, ALL DAY SUNDAY, THAT, THAT THEIR PARKING LOT COULD BE USED BY, UH, YOU KNOW, VISITORS.

WE HAVE LOTS OF, IF YOU GO DOWN THE ALLEY, I CALL IT THE, THE BUSINESS ALLEY ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS I LIVE ON, ON OUR SIDE, YOU SEE A LOT OF PARKING LOTS WITH LOTS OF EMPTY SPACES.

SO, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIVATE, SO NO ONE CAN TELL THEM HOW TO, YOU KNOW, UM, RUN THEIR, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY, UM, EVEN IF THERE, I NEVER, UM, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, PARKING LOT, COMMISSIONER, UH, PRESIDENT FOR YEARS, BILL OR BEER, BILL OR BEER HAD AN IDEA THAT WE HAVE AN APP THAT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, PARKING AVAILABLE ON

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THE STREET, THAT KIND OF THING WITH EXISTING PARKING.

SO THAT'S JUST MY, UH, LITTLE ASIDE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, NO, THE, THE CITY DOES HAVE A CONSULTANT LOOKING INTO METHODS AND FACILITATING THOSE TYPES OF ARRANGEMENTS.

UH, RIGHT NOW THAT STUDY'S LOOKING AT PRIVATE PARKING LOTS, THATWHERE IN THE ALAMEDOS BEACH AREA.

UM, PAST ATTEMPTS TO FACILITATE THAT TYPE OF THING.

IT COME DOWN TO, UM, INSURANCE ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING FOLKS TO PARK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BUT, UH, YEAH, STAY TUNED ON THAT.

WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT STUDY BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETED.

THANK YOU.

JUNE, UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WHERE ARE WE? AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK, EVEN ASK IT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST RAISE THE QUESTION OF WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE LIKE THEY DO IN SANTA MONICA WHERE WE COULD HAVE RESIDENT LIKE PERMIT PARTY? MM-HMM.

WHERE IT BE LIKE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR AN HOUR, YOU'RE GOOD.

AND, BUT PER, UNLESS YOU'RE PERMITTED, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT IS, UH, YEAH.

BIG QUESTION.

UH, SO YEAH, AGAIN, MY EMAIL HERE.

WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE I EMAIL.

OKAY.

THANK, THANKS, PAUL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THANK YOU FOLKS FOR, UH, STAYING ON THIS, UH, REAL QUICK.

SURE, SURE.

REAL QUICK COMMENT.

I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING TO ECHO WHAT JEFF IS SAYING IS THAT I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD YOU MENTION WE WANT TO HURRY UP AND GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE SUMMER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, LET'S JUST NOT HURRY UP FOR AN ARBITRARY DATE OF THE SUMMER.

AND WHAT DATE WAS THIS STUDY DONE? WAS IT DONE IN THE SUMMER? YES.

JULY.

OKAY.

SO LET'S, I, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO LIKE, WE HAVE TO LIKE, IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR 60, FOR 40 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE, LIKE, THERE'S NO MAGIC THING.

WE DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE US DO SOMETHING FAST AND HAVE AN ISSUE.

LIKE ON RETRO, THEY PUT THESE PIPELINES AND THEY HAVE TO TEAR ON 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S FREAKING OUT.

'CAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.

SO I'LL JUST SAY, PLEASE DON'T RUSH THIS, BECAUSE ONCE IT'S IN, IT'S SO HARD TO CHANGE.

SO LET'S JUST BE PRUDED ABOUT IT.

PLEASE.

THAT'S MY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, I MEAN, I'VE LIVED MIC AS WELL, UM, AND I BROUGHT UP THE PARKING LOTS.

I DO THINK THEY HAVE TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE THERE IS A DISCONNECT THERE WITH PARKING LOTS THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY.

THE ONE BEHIND THE OLD GAP BUILDING IS EMPTY DURING THE DAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THE OWNERS OF THESE TO HELP US PROMOTE THE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOTTA BE BETTER.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING ON THE STREET, WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE, THE PARKING LOTS ARE HERE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM, A LOT OF FACES.

SO I THINK IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE DIALOGUE.

OKAY.

I DEFINITELY, YEAH, IF WE'RE MISSING WAY FINDING SIGNAGE TOWARD PUBLIC LOTS, WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT IN WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE.

OKAY.

UM, WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

UH, A COUPLE OF REALLY KEY TAKEAWAYS THERE.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK THE NUMBER ONE TAKEAWAY IS, UH, UH, THERE'S ENOUGH, UH, CONTINUED DIALOGUE QUESTIONS, UH, CONCERNS THAT THIS SHOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERED HEAVILY AND STRONGLY BEFORE, UH, ANY MECHANISMS ARE PUT IN PLACE AS A, UH, FINAL, UH, SOLUTION.

UM, AND I, I THINK I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT REGARD.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND.

ALL IN, IN FAVOR TO RECEIVE THIS REPORT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE AND DRAG YOU THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE FILE PRESENTATION, UH, FROM CONSERVATION CORPS OF LONG BEACH REPRESENTATIVE.

SO YEAH, WE DO, UH, WE HAVE MIKE BRIDGES HERE WITH CONSERVATION CORPS, AND WE HAVE THEIR TEAM.

SO I'LL LET THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE, THEY ALSO BROUGHT ADDITIONAL, UH, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THEIR PRESENTATION.

UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, I ACTUALLY ASKED THEM, SINCE THEY'RE DOING MEDIAN MAINTENANCE, I ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE LIKE, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, UM, AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN THE PAST.

THAT'S BACK, YEAH, I'LL PASS THOSE ALONG.

AND IF ANY, I'LL PASS THESE ALONG AS WELL.

BUT MIKE AND TEAM CONSERVATION, YOU GUYS CAN TAKE IT AWAY.

YEAH, THERE'S TWO.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOO.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOGETHER.

OH.

TOGETHER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH.

HEY, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO RUN FOR THE RECORD, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A QUORUM.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY HAVE A QUORUM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SEE YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO, MORNING CHAIR PETERSON, VICE CHAIR OF BLAIR COMMISSION COMMUNITY

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MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

IS IT SOMETHING I SAID? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S YOUR LINE.

MY APOLOGIES.

UM, MY NAME IS DAVID SAUL.

I'M OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND COO OF THE CONSERVATION CORPS.

WITH ME, I HAVE JAVIER EZ, OUR DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION TRAINING.

I HAVE JJ ORTEGA, OUR LANDSCAPE CONSTRUCTIONS, UH, PROJECT MANAGER.

I ALSO HAVE MICHAEL BRIDGES, OUR RECYCLING AND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT MANAGER.

SO YOU'VE GOT A GOOD SHOWING OF THE TEAM HERE.

UH, SO BEFORE YOU GO FORWARD, UH, I WANT, UH, I WANT TO, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL CERTAINLY DO THE SAME.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE AND THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR US.

UH, GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THAT MEANS A LOT.

IT COMES OUT, IT'S A FINE GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE.

UH, WE'VE TRIED TO HONOR THEM IN THE PAST, UH, WITH CERTAIN THINGS, AND THE EFFORTS DO NOT GO UNNOTICED.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S REALLY KIND AND THAT MEANS A LOT.

UM, I THINK FOR THOSE OF YOU, IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONSERVATION CORPS, BUT WE ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, YOUTH DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

I KNOW WE'RE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, CLEANING STUFF UP AND DOING MEDIAS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ALL FOR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.

18 TO 26 YEAR OLDS, UH, WHO ARE LOOKING TO FIND THEIR PATHWAY IN BOTH CAREER, UH, AND EDUCATION AND GO ON TO THE NEXT THING IN THEIR LIFE.

AND, UH, AND, UH, FIND THEIR, FULFILL THEIR, UH, HOPES AND DREAMS, AS IT WERE.

UH, SO WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

WE KIND OF BUCKETED IT INTO THAT TIME, UH, ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP.

ALSO, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THE MEDIAN WORK, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE UPDATED.

UH, AND THEN I KNOW WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ITEM, ITEM SIX, UH, UM, UH, THAT EDDIE WILL PRESENT AS WELL.

UH, BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO UPDATING YOU, UH, ABOUT THIS TODAY.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WITH THE CORPS THREE YEARS, BUT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE SURPASSED TWO DECADES, UH, TWO DECADES IN THIS PARTNERSHIP, WHICH MIKE HAS BEEN HERE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF.

UH, SO, UH, WE'LL, UH, TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF, UH, SINCE I KNOW WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME.

SO, JJ, IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING ON THE MEETINGS.

YES.

UH, THE MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN SERVICING THEM, UH, TWICE A MONTH.

UH, THE SECOND WEEK OF, OF THE MONTH.

WE STARTED IN DECEMBER AND DECEMBER.

UH, SOME OF THE SCOPE OF WORK WOULD BE THE, WE ABATEMENT, LIT ABATEMENT, UH, REMOVING THE DEAD OR, OR DYING, UH, PLANT, UH, MATERIAL.

AND ALSO REPLACING A MULCH.

SO WE THEN ALSO 14 MEDIUMS. UH, THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK OR THE FIRST DAY OF SERVICE, WE DO HALF OF IT.

SEVEN, SEVEN MEDIUMS, WHICH TAKES US.

AND THEN WE DO THE OTHER HALF, GUESS CALL IT EAST OR THE SOUTH OF NORTH SIDE OF, UH, SECOND STREET.

WE ALSO, UH, IN DEC IN DECEMBER, WE PULLED OUT, UH, FIVE CUBIC YARDS OF, UH, LITTER AND, UH, GREEN WASTE OF MATERIAL.

AND WE PUT IN, UH, 4.5, UH, CUBIC YARDS OF MULCH.

SO IF, IF I MAY, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN REPORTING THAT THERE'S BEEN REPLANTING OCCURRING, UH, SEGREGATED REPLANTING FROM BOX TO BOX UP AND DOWN SECOND STREET.

UH, YOU'RE GONNA CORRECT ME THERE.

MY INFORMATION'S INCORRECT.

UH, SO OF THE REPLANTING, IF REPLANTING HAS BEEN DONE, UH, ROUGHLY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT REPLANTING HAS SURVIVED AND, AND DO WE HAVE A PLAN TO REPLANT ON AN ONGOING BASIS, WHICH THE COMMISSION WAS ASKED FOR IN APPROPRIATED FUNDS? UH, AGAIN, INCREMENTALLY, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, EACH QUARTER GOING FORWARD IS, WAS THE ASK FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? SO WE, EDDIE, DID YOU WANT TO, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO THAT YEAH, SO I KNOW, I KNOW.

SORRY, I MISSED A, A, A LITTLE BIT PORTION OF THAT.

BUT I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW, UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE AZTECA THAT DOES THE, THEY COME OUT AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THE MAINTENANCE.

I KNOW I DID REACH OUT TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU ON THAT.

AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE COMING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, NOT ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

HENCE WHY WE'VE SEEN SOME PLANNING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT GETS PLANTED.

IT'S NOT BEING MAINTAINED INTO A QUARTERLY BASIS.

I DID REACH OUT TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU TO ASK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD, IF WE COULD GET A QUOTE ON THEM DOING ON WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY CURRENTLY DOING.

BUT I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN CONSERVATION CORPS AS WELL TO DOING THE PLAN, UM, TO DOING THE MAINTENANCE.

UH, IN REGARDS TO THE PLANNING, I KNOW THEY DO HAVE A, A, THEY DID ACTUALLY SEND ME THIS MORNING A PROPOSAL TO DO LIKE, MORE ADDITIONAL PLANNING.

'CAUSE I KNOW THE WORK THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IS JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE.

UM, JUST KEEP UP.

UH, BUT TO DO THE PLANNING, THEY DO ACTUALLY HAVE A PROPOSAL TO ME.

SO I'M GONNA REVIEW THAT PROPOSAL TODAY.

UH, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT.

I KNOW WE DID QUOTE ON A CERTAIN CONTINGENCY, BUT, SO I GOT TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY VOTED ON.

'CAUSE WE DID A, A, LIKE A, A, A PROJECT BUDGET.

AND IF IT DOES MEAN IT, I CAN, I CAN APPROVE IT.

UM, IF NOT, I CAN, IF IT GOES OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, I CAN BRING IT BACK.

AND IF YOU WANT TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, REGULARLY, LIKE PLANNING, JUST TO MAKE SURE I CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITH CONSERVATION CORPS ON GETTING THAT PROPOSAL AS WELL.

SO IN FEBRUARY WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING.

AND I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, THAT, AND EVEN IF IT DOES, THEY'RE

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DUE PLANNING, UH, DUE TO THE WEATHER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

THEY DO PLAN ON PLANTING IN END OF FEBRUARY AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

YOU, SO THE QUESTION WAS, UH, PETITIVE ON A CERTAIN LEVEL, UH, JUST AS A, UH, RECAP FOR COMMISSIONERS AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, HERE LISTENING AND FOR CONSERVATION CORPS AS WELL, JUST TO GIVE US A RECAP OF WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PARTICULAR PART OR THE PROJECT.

SO I'LL LET YOU CONTINUE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TO SAY ABOUT THAT? UH, NO.

WE SERVICE, WE JUST GOT THERE SERVICING IT, UH, YESTERDAY.

AND WE DO HAVE A PLANT PT AND A LAYOUT THAT WE SUBMITTED.

AND THEN I BELIEVE IT'S IN YOUR GUYS' PACKET ALSO.

AND WE'RE PLANNING, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO DO FEBRUARY AND MARCH WHEN IT'S NOT AS COLD.

IT'S ALWAYS SOME THOSE PLANT SURVIVALS.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WE'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION.

SO MOVING FROM MEDIANS NOW TO THE WORK THAT WE DO ON THE SIDEWALKS, UH, AND BEAUTIFICATION THAT ARE MOVABLE TYPE SERVICES.

SO I TAKE IT AWAY.

UM, GOOD MORNING TO THE COMMISSION.

THIS IS THE OTHER REPORT, THE ONE WITH NOT GREEN, UH, HAS SOME PHOTOS, THINGS IN THERE.

YEAH, THAT WAS, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THAT REPORT.

SO I DID WANT TO KNOW THAT I HAVEN'T PRESENTED FROM THE COMMISSION IN SEVERAL YEARS.

I USED TO WORK ALONGSIDE BILL WHEN HE WAS HERE AT ONE POINT.

UM, I WAS HERE DOING THE, UH, DURING THE EXCEPTION OF THE BIG BELLIES WHEN THEY WERE FIRST INTRODUCED TO SECOND STREET.

SO I DO HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY OF, OF WHEN THEY CAME ON THE SECOND STREET AND DURING THE SERVICE RECORD OF THOSE.

SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN, THERE'S BEEN A BIG LEARNING CURVE AS THEY WERE INTRODUCED.

UM, THE NEW UNITS ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING A LOT BETTER.

THEY'RE A LOT BETTER MODEL.

THEY'RE EASIER TO MAINTAIN.

SO, UM, THEY'RE EASIER FOR US TO MAINTAIN.

SO, UM, THAT'S A BIG PLUS FOR US.

UM, DO YOU, DO YOU APPRECIATE, UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WHICH YOU JUST MENTIONED, THAT WE'RE MOVING MORE TO THE, UH, BASIC UNIT RATHER THAN THE UNIT WITH BELLS AND WHISTLES AND POWER WINDOWS AND POWER SEATS? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THESE, AND THEN OF THE BASIC UNITS, WHICH ARE EASIER TO MAINTAIN, THEY'RE MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

YES.

THEY'RE GONNA LAST LONGER.

UH, THE PEDAL DRIVEN YES.

DOOR OPEN.

IS THAT YOU'RE SEEING MUCH BETTER EFFECTIVE? THEY'RE MUCH BETTER.

OKAY.

MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, A LOT, LOT LESS TO MAINTAIN.

UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS WHEN THE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM CAME IN.

I, I THINK THAT WAS THE HIDDEN COST THAT WASN'T ANTICIPATED, WAS THE MAINTENANCE COST.

AND, BUT, UM, BUT, UM, YES, AS FAR I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH SOME OF OUR STATISTICS FROM JULY THROUGH, THROUGH DECEMBER, UH, CLOSE TO ABOUT 9,000 BAGS THAT WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THROUGHOUT SECOND STREET.

UM, WE ALSO CONTINUE TO DO EVENT SUPPORT FOR FORUM BELMONT SHORE.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR EVENT SUPPORT IS NO COST TO THE COMMISSION.

UH, WE, WE GREATLY LEVERAGE OUR, UM, OUR CONTRACT THROUGH, UM, OUR CAL CYCLE GRANT.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING AND ABLE TO SUPPORT BELMONT SHORE IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN .

UM, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, TO HELP WITH THESE EVENTS.

AND LIKE I SAID, I, I RECENTLY TOOK STEWARDSHIP OF OUR CONTRACT BACK, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, BUT LIKE I SAID, I'VE PROBABLY BEEN OUT HERE SINCE, I WANNA SAY 2010 AS A SUPERVISOR.

SO, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE COMMISSION AND WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

UM, I'M READY, WILLING, AND AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES.

UM, I'M WILLING, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO TEACH OUR YOUNG, YOUNG FOLKS, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT QUALITY OF WORK, WHAT QUALITY OF WORK CAN ACHIEVE, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF QUALITY OF WORK.

UM, AND I ALSO PROVIDED A COST, UH, CONTRACTUAL BREAK, A CONTRACT BREAKDOWN OF, UM, THE CURRENT FRONT OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT VERSUS WHAT CCLB ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY HIDDEN COSTS, UM, COST OF, UM, AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, I JUST WANTED TO DISPLAY, YOU KNOW, UM, TWO OF OUR CORPS MEMBERS THAT WERE ACTUALLY HIRED BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH THROUGH WORK THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE ON THIS CONTRACT.

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SO THE WORK THAT WE DO OUT HERE MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

AND THE WORK THAT, AND THE, UM, SKILLS THAT WE TEACH OUR CORPS MEMBERS ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND IT IS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THIS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, SERVING OUR YOUNG FOLKS.

SO, OKAY.

THIS IS, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT.

THIS CCLD FUNDS CONTRIBUTED YES.

IS A BLIND AMOUNT THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN PRIOR.

YES.

SO IS OF THIS $230,000, UH, WHAT PORTION OF THAT IS, UH, BROKEN UP IN MATERIALS AND LABOR INSURANCE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO RUNNING THIS PROGRAM? IT'S ABOUT 60 TO 65% OF THAT IS ACTUALLY LABOR.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE EVERYTHING ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH IS INSURANCE, UH, MATERIALS, TRANSPORTATION, OVERHEAD COORDINATION, ALL THOSE THINGS.

.

SO SIR, LEMME GET THIS, LEMME GET THIS STRAIGHT.

IF THIS $230,000, UH, CONTRIBUTED FUNDS, GRANT MONIES THAT GO INTO CCLB, YEAH.

MM-HMM.

WE'RE THERE, THEN THAT WOULD GET PASSED ON IN OUR BID NUMBERS AND WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO PAY $331,000 FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT YOU FOLKS PROVIDE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WOW.

YEAH.

WOW.

THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MIKE NOTED IN THERE, I THINK OUR CONTRACT HAS STAYED, UH, STEADY FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, UM, WITH, OF COURSE MINIMUM WAGE HAVING INCREASED SEVEN TIMES IN THOSE SEVEN YEARS.

UH, SO WE JUST, HONESTLY, WE WANTED TO PUT THIS REPORT TOGETHER TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH WE VALUE THE PARTNERSHIP, HOW MUCH WE ARE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS, UM, AND THE SUCCESS STORIES THAT WE'RE CREATING OUTTA THIS.

UM, AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.

I'M, I'M TELLING YOU, THAT IS A, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ADDED PIECE OF INFORMATION AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO OUR ANALYTICS.

YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

UH, UH YEP.

UNDERSTOOD.

UM, I WAS DRIVING TODAY DOWN SEVENTH STREET, AND I NOTICED THE GENTLEMAN CARRYING A BUCKET, SPILLING HALF THE WATER, TRYING TO WATER THE TREE.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE AS A COMMISSION CAN ASSIST IN PROVIDING MAYBE FIRE HOSE YEAH.

IN A LITTLE ENGINEERING OR TRYING TO IMPROVE ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO? MAYBE EVEN GETTING A CLEANING CART OR THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT AREN'T ACCESSIBLE TO THEM TO MAKE THEIR JOB.

I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, WORK HARDER.

YOU KNOW, THE SAYING IS, WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER, RIGHT? YEAH.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE FIVE GALLON BUCKETS.

YEAH, THOSE ARE FIVE GALLON BUCKETS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THREE TRIPS PER TREE.

IF YOU'RE DOING 15 GALLONS, IF YOU'RE FILLING 'EM ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP AND FIVE GALLONS TIMES EIGHT POUNDS, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE 200.

THAT'S, THAT'S 40.

THAT'S 40 POUNDS OF WATER, UH, IN ONE BUCKET.

RIGHT.

SO WE USE OUR WATER ERGONOMICS, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

WE USE OUR WATER TRUCK.

AND THE QUICKEST WAY IS TO GRAB HEAT.

IT COMPARED TO USING THE PUMP THAT'S OUT THERE, HAVING, HAVING A HOSE RUNNING FROM, YOU KNOW, BLOCKING TRAFFIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE CARRYING BUCKETS.

AND MY, MY WHOLE POINT IS TWO BLOCKS THIS MORNING IS, IS WHAT I WATCHED A GUY CARRY ONE, ONE GUY CARRY A BUCKET TWO BLOCKS, UM, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY NO GOOD IF HE'S GONNA MAKE THAT THREE, I DON'T THINK HE'S MAKING THREE TRIPS.

I THINK HE'S DOING ONE, UH, THREE GALLON WATER DROP.

UM, SO I THINK KAREN'S RIGHT.

WE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO 15 GALLONS PER TREE PER VISIT, LET'S GET A HOSE THEY GO EARLIER IN THE MORNING OR SOMETHING.

WELL, THERE'S GOTTA BE AN ENGINEER.

THOSE KIDS NEED TO BE, I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANNA BREAK THEIR BACKS.

WELL, AND ALSO THEY GOTTA HAVE LIKE SOMEBODY COME OUT THERE AND HELP 'EM.

HERE'S HOW YOU DO A HOSE.

HERE'S HOW YOU WORK WITH THE GRAVITY FEEDER.

I THINK IT WOULD BE AN ASSISTANT TO EVERYTHING.

I FELT SORRY FOR THIS KID BECAUSE YEAH, I WATCHED, HE WAS SKINNY AND HALF OF THE WATER WAS GOING OUT.

I JUST THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

YEAH, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY.

A LOT OF THINGS, IN MY OPINION.

YEAH.

I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE TRASH, YOU THINK IT IS SECOND STREET? YEAH.

I MEAN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT.

AND I'VE BEEN AROUND TOO AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD MY EXPERIENCES AT SHORE CAFE DAY WHEN I WAS HERE, SO I'M NOT INNOCENT IN ANYTHING THAT GOES ON HERE ON SECOND STREET.

THE SECOND STREET, SHOVEL SHUFFLE HAS EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME, AND SOME OF THE THINGS ARE VERY HARD TO CLEAN UP, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I THINK IF WE FOUND BETTER SOLUTIONS IN THE CHEMICAL USED TO CLEAN UP THE STUFF AND EVERYTHING, I THINK WE WOULD BE A LOT BETTER OFF FOR EFFICIENCY FROM CONSERVATION COURT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

UM, WELL, UH, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE.

UH, SO ANY OTHER, UH, YOU DO WE MOTION TO, WE MOTION? DO MOTION.

MOTION.

OH, WE JUST ONE COMMENT.

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I SAY IT EVERY YEAR, BUT I THOUGHT WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EXCUSE ME.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE COMMENT PLEASE.

JUST BRIEFLY, BRIAN, ER I, SURE.

UH, I MET SOME OF THE, UH, CONSERVATION CORE LEADERS AT DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS BEFORE.

I HAVE TO SAY AT APPLAUD THE ORGANIZATION, THE GOALS, EVERYTHING THEY DO, I SUPPORT THEM A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I DON'T THINK YOUR ANALYSIS COME DOWN JUST COST BENEFIT.

I THINK THIS IS WHAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS EXIST TO DO, TO SUPPORT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION TO BUILD SOMETHING UP.

AND AGAIN, UH, THE INSTRUCTION, THE LEARNING POSSIBILITIES ARE GREAT HERE.

I WOULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND, UH, I KNOW THE COST OF THINGS ARE CONSIDERABLE, BUT, UM, I SUPPORT IT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THIS RELATIONSHIP.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

I, YES.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HELLO, MELINDA.

WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOREVER.

, THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR, AND I REALIZE THAT YOU GUYS COULD HAVE EVERYTHING CHRISTIE AT NINE IN THE MORNING AND AFTER THE DOGS ARRIVED AND TOO MUCH ARRIVE.

AND SO BY THE END OF THE DAY, I, NOTHING LOOK AS PRISTINE.

AND THAT'S REALLY TOUGH.

BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO CREEP THINGS UP.

ONE THING, UM, THERE ARE NOW SIGNS OF HEARING IN THE MEDIANS.

THERE'S ONE OUT THERE NOW FOR A JUNK DEALER OR SOMETHING.

MM-HMM.

, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ILLEGAL, BUT WE'D LOVE IT IF YOUR FOLKS COULD PLEASE REMOVE THEM.

AND ON THE POLES YES.

PEOPLE FOSTER THEIR STUFF.

YEAH.

AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE EASY TO GET OFF WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD JUST PULL 'EM OFF.

BUT SOMETIMES THEY TAKE 'EM ON REALLY HARD, SO THEY NEED SOME KNIFE OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

BUT MY HUSBAND AND I TRY TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT IF YOU GUYS CAN WATCH OUT FOR THAT, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

DISMISS THE STREET.

THAT WAS NICE.

THANKS AGAIN.

DEFINITELY.

UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE COMMENTS.

WE NEED A SECOND BOOK.

WHO, WHO MADE THE MOTION? UH, I BELIEVE MR. ANI MADE A MOTION.

UH, I, I DON'T THINK SO.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

THIS IS RYAN HOFFMANS.

AWESOME.

UH, AND NOW I'LL A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

JAN .

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, ITEM LAST IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A PROPOSAL FOR CONSERVATION COURT TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE SERVICES THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2024.

AND IT COSTS NOT TO EXCEED 70,000.

YEAH.

SO I CAN PRESENT ON THAT ONE.

SO THE COST, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT IS PRESENTED, THE COSTS ARE BROKEN UP IN, IN THE PROPOSAL FOR SERVICES IN AA, WHICH IS URBAN BEAUTIFICATION, WHICH ARE CLEANING SERVICES, WHICH THEY EARLY CURRENTLY DO.

AND THE SCOPE OF WORK IS IN THE PRESENTATION.

IT, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE RYAN, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE VERY LAST PAGES.

LAST TWO PAGES.

YEAH, LAST TWO PAGES.

UM, AND THEN, AND B, WHICH IS TREE WATERING, WHICH IS, WHICH THE TOTAL COST FOR THOSE TWO IS 59,436 WITH 25 CENTS, UH, FOR SERVICES UP TO JUNE 30TH, 2020, 2024.

BUT I'VE ACTUALLY ALLOCATED 10,562 WITH 75 CENTS AS A CONTINGENCY TO COVER THE COST OF OTHER SERVICES, LIKE BIG BELLY REMOVALS, TREE PLANNING, UH, PLANNING, UH, AS STATED IN THE PROPOSAL, WHICH ADDS TO THE GRAND TOTAL OF $70,000.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S ACTUAL, THE CONSERVATION CORPS DID BREAK DOWN THE COST OF IT JUST SPLIT UP.

SO AT A URBAN BEAUTIFICATION, THOSE A AND B ARE THE SERVICES OF THE 59,000.

UM, THEY DID BREAK IT DOWN IN SAYING WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING.

AND THEN C AND D ARE THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT THEY DON'T.

RARELY, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT COSTS DO COME UP ON, ON THESE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ONE MONTH AND ANOTHER MONTH.

SO THE COSTS ARE NOT CONSISTENT.

UH, SO THE AMOUNT IS BROKEN DOWN AS YOU CAN SEE IN A, B, C, AND D ON THE LAST PAGE.

AND THEN FOR B, THEY DID BREAK IT DOWN A QUARTER.

BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT I ONLY DID DO UP TO JANUARY, UH, TO JUNE, UH, JULY AND SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, UH, TO NOVEMBER.

THOSE COSTS ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE.

I JUST, THEY DID INCLUDE IT IN THERE, BUT I WANT TO JUST INCLUDE IT.

AND THE REASON I DID DO IT TO JUNE, 2024 IS THAT IT, SINCE SIX MONTHS, I KNOW WE DO HAVE AN RFP THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY GO OUT, UH, THAT MIGHT CROSS AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I, I, I, I PREDICT THAT IF WE DO BRING IN A PROPO, I MEAN A A A, SOMEBODY DOES BID, IT IS GONNA TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF BRINGING 'EM ON.

UH, HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE DO GO THROUGH THAT.

SO YEAH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR PACKET.

IT'S THE LAST TWO PAGES, THE RE ABATEMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF AS WELL.

YEAH.

UH,

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JUST A QUICK QUESTION ARE, ARE WE USING A ROUNDUP? SORRY, RYAN.

I, I THINK WE NEED A MOTION FIRST.

OH, SORRY.

UH, MOTION TO RECEIVE BY HOFFMAN.

SORRY.

UM, OKAY.

SO WE'RE IN THIS, WE'RE IN A DISCUSSION BASE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

WE'RE USING ROUNDUP AS IT'S, THE JURY'S STILL LOUD ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A BAD AND TOXIC NO.

OKAY.

WE DON'T USE ROUNDUP.

IT'S MOSTLY HAND PULLING.

AND THEN OTHER SUBSTANCES, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THE SPECIFIC WEEDED CONTROL SUBSTANCE THAT WE USE, HE WAS ASKING IF WE USE ROUNDUP.

I WAS SAYING, UM, BESIDES HAND HANDLING, IF ANY SPECIFIC, UH, SUBSTANCE WE USE, UH, UH, WE USE, UH, VINEGAR, DISTILLED VINEGAR.

OKAY.

AND EPSOM SALT WITH SOME DISH.

I KNEW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE USED.

I JUST WANT TO MISQUOTE THE INGREDIENTS.

SO I WOULD LET OUR LETTUCE, IT'S A, IT'S SORT OF A NATURAL REMEDY TO PROVIDE THAT WITH NO CHEMICALS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT.

IT'S ALL ORGANIC, PER SE.

GOOD.

CONSERVATION CORE.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? THIS A QUESTION? SURE.

UM, NOW IS THIS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY CONTRACTED DO? SO THIS IS ADDITIONAL 70,000 ON TOP OF MM-HMM.

.

OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

YOU'RE SAYING NO, SO NO, NO, NO.

SO THE, THE, THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE ALREADY CURRENTLY DOING, THAT CONTRACT IS ALREADY UP.

SO THIS IS THIS TO RENEWING, RENEW, RENEW THOSE.

THIS IS EXTENDED FOR SIX MONTHS.

YEAH.

SO THE MEDIAN MAINTENANCE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS ONE BECAUSE THEY, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS DIDN'T, THIS PROPOSAL DIDN'T COME, WE WOULD'VE INCLUDED IT IF THE SERVICES WERE ALREADY OVER AT THE TIME.

BUT, SO THE MEDIAN MAINTENANCE IS COMPLETELY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

FOR HYPOTHETICALLY, LIKE LET'S SAY IN SIX MONTHS WHEN WE DO, IF WE DO DO THIS ONE AGAIN, THAT MEDIAN MAINTENANCE WILL BE INCLUDED IN THESE COSTS.

UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST TO RENEW THEIR SERVICES.

OKAY.

FOR A SIX MONTH PERIOD.

CORRECT.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THIS MIGHT BE A CRAZY QUESTION, BUT WHEN THEY'RE DIGGING UP THE WEEDS, IS THERE ANY SOIL THAT IS ALSO PLACED IN THE MEDIAN TO MAKE THE SOIL MORE CONSISTENT WITH GIMME A QUICK QUESTION.

YES.

LIKE SOIL AMENDMENTS.

YEAH.

WE DID A PLANNING IN JUNE, JULY OF, OF THIS LAST YEAR.

AND WE DID DO SOIL AMENDMENTS AT THAT TIME.

WE WORK WITH A, UH, WE OURSELVES HAVE, UH, THE EXPERTISE, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH A, UH, LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO ALSO DOES ASSESSMENTS OF SOIL AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DO THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SOIL IS PROPERLY AMENDED AND FERTILIZED AS NEEDED FOR THE BEST SURVIVAL OF THE PLANTS.

PART OF THAT PART OF THAT SURVEY WAS THE, THE, THE PH PILES OF THE SOIL, THE SALINITY, BECAUSE OF THE SALT THAT GOES IN FROM THE BEACH.

SO THE AMENDMENTS TO DO A PART WE CAN BE USING, DOING IT MORE THAN JUST SINCE LAST JUNE.

SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, BEFORE WE DID THE, THE ADDITIONAL PLANNING, WE, WE TOOK SOIL SAMPLES AND WE SENT IT TO ALL SLABS AND THE SOIL REPORT WAS SHARED WITH THE, THE BOARD COMMISSION.

AND THEN WE DO THE SOIL LAB REPORT AND WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED, THAT'S HOW WE AMENDED THE SOIL.

AND I MEAN, IT'S, UH, WE GOT, I BELIEVE, THREE SOIL SAMPLES AND THEY'RE LIKE $90 A PIECE AND THEN WE COULD DO IT YEARLY OR, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE, A REGULAR, A CACTUS MIX THAT HAS ALL THE NUTRIENTS THAT THAT NEEDS.

UH, BUT WE COULD, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IN, IN OUR, IN OUR SERVICE, ADD THE SOIL REPORT SAMPLES YEARLY, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS THAT THE, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING TO THIS, THE PLANTS THAT WE REPLACE, UH, THE, UH, THE NATIVE PLANTS AND TREES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF, OF FLOURISHING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, UH, CONTINUE TO, AND WE DON'T WASTE OUR MONEY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND WE FERTILIZE REGULARLY.

AND THEN THE SOIL REGULARLY, THIS IS A REALLY, IT'S A TOUGH ENVIRONMENT WITH THE EXHAUST FROM, FROM TRUCKS AND, AND CARS.

AND THEN THE WIND BLOWS THE SALT FROM THE, FROM THE BEACH, THE SAND AND, AND IT'S TOUGH.

SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING, UH, PRESERVES THE PLANTS THAT WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY OFF.

AND, UH, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION YEAH.

FOR THE MEDIA MAINTENANCE, I KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GUYS ALREADY VOTED ON THAT LAST AND NOVEMBER, BUT IF WE DO WANT TO INCLUDE, I KNOW THEY'RE ALREADY, I MEAN, WHEN THEY DO THE PLANNING, I KNOW THEY'LL BE DOING, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY'RE DOING THE, THE MONTHLY MAINTENANCE.

SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK IF ANY OF THOSE PLANS ARE DYING OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

THEY'LL LET ME KNOW.

AND THEN, UM, IF IT'S WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT'S WE'RE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WE CAN, I JUST CONTINUE TO LET 'EM KNOW THAT, CONTINUE DOING IT AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN MAKE SURE TO PRESENT IT LIKE THAT VERY SAME MONTH.

GOOD.

AWESOME.

I THINK THE, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD WAS ON THE, UH, PIG BELLIES.

UM, WHEN THE CIGARETTE

[01:40:01]

DISPOSAL OFF, WE GET SHARP, UH, DANGEROUS FOUR PRONGED PARTS.

SO IF YOU COULD DRILL THE RIVETS TO REMOVE THE BRACKETS.

YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO SO, UH, THE ONE OUTSIDE THE NEW RESTAURANT WINDOW STARTED SECONDING STREET.

THAT, THAT'S WHERE I NOTICED THE LAST, BUT IF WE INCLUDE THAT AS ONE, THE REPAIR, MAINTENANCE, WHATEVER, JUST I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY ASSESS ALL OF THE UNITS.

BUT YEAH, THOSE SPECIFICALLY, I CAN GO AHEAD.

I'LL GO AHEAD.

I'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM.

WE'LL JUST REMOVE THE BRACKET AND THAT WAY WE'RE NOT CUTTING UP OUR ALRIGHT.

NO PEOPLE.

AWESOME.

CAN I HAVE A QUESTION? QUESTION, PLEASE.

I DON'T COME TO PARKING COMMISSION MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.

DJ NEW RESIDENT.

DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT? UM, SO THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION ON THE TREES AND, AND TRIMMING AND, YOU KNOW, FOR DEAD AND STUFF.

I NOTICED, UH, THAT, UH, SOME OF THOSE, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL 'EM, LIKE THE STEEL GRATES.

GR TREE WELLS.

TREE WELLS.

SO A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE THEY WERE STARTING TO GET A LITTLE WONKY, UH, BECAUSE OF ROOTS.

AND THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP.

SO ARE, ARE YOU GUYS DOING THAT? ARE YOU WORKING ON THAT? WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING? NOT FOR THE TREE WELLS.

I KNOW THAT PROBABLY IS WITH OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU, SO IF THERE'S ANY, ANY THAT ARE MISSING, I CAN ALWAYS EMAIL 'EM.

UM, I KNOW HEATHER USUALLY WILL SEND ME, UM, HEATHER FROM THE BSBA.

RIGHT.

SHE SENT ME PHOTOS AND THEN I'LL NOTIFY THE, THE, OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU FOR THAT.

BUT IN REGARDS TO ACTUAL PLANNING, THAT'S CONSERVATION COURTS.

BUT IN THE TREE WELL ITSELF, I IT'S PUBLIC.

YEAH, IT'S PUBLIC WORKS.

OKAY.

BUT YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

JUST SOMEONE JUST TOOK 'EM OFF.

I GUESS IT COULD BE THAT IF THERE IS A TREE MISSING, IT COULD BE THAT THERE, IT WAS REMOVED OR THERE COULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGE TO IT.

I, I MEAN, I'M NOT TOO SURE OF IT, BUT OKAY.

YEAH, NOBODY, I JUST, THE ONLY THING WE DO AROUND THE TREE WELLS IS TRY TO DO AS MUCH LITERAL REMOVAL AS WE CAN.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENT? WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND PLEASE.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING THIS REPORT? AYE.

GENERAL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.

UH, THIS PART, THE MEETING.

UH, FINAL COMMENTS.

UH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS, UH, ANY ION COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? I DO, BUT IT'S SO LATE.

NEXT MEETING.

ARE YOU SURE? YEAH.

OKAY.

WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING? I NEVER KNOW WHEN THESE MEETINGS.

IT'S USUALLY EVERY, UH, THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.

THURSDAY.

UM, I GOTTA WRITE IT DOWN.

YEAH.

AND IT IS POSTED ON OUR ONE MEETING, UH, CITY CLERK WEBSITE.

SO THE MEETINGS IF ONE MEETING, YEAH, I BELIEVE IT.

YOU COULD GO ON THE CITY CLERK.

UH, LONG BEACH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, CITY CLERK.

OKAY.

AND THEN THERE IS, SHOULD BE A LITTLE HYPERLINK WHERE IT SAYS ONE MEETING AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT AND IT'LL GIVE YOU ALL MEETINGS.

THAT'S INCLUDING LIKE, MISSION MEETINGS, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND IT'LL TELL YOU IF WE DO HAVE, TYPICALLY IF WE HAVE FORM OR IF THE MEETING IS CANCELED, IT WOULD BE POSTED THERE THE DAY BEFORE OR THE DAY OF.

YOU DON'T OFFICE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

SO MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOTION.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU.