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UM, IS PAUL GONNA BE LATE TOO? DID YOU SAY THAT? YEAH, HE WAS COMING FROM ANOTHER MEETING.

SO HE'S GONNA BE 15 MINUTES OR IS HE GONNA BE HE DID NOT GIVE ME A TIME.

UM, NEXT TENTATIVELY, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TIME FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

TENTATIVELY THE, UH, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ARE SUPPOSED TO APPROVE THE NEXT BATCH OF COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS ON FEBRUARY 5TH, TENTATIVELY.

AND SINCE WE HAVE ONE, STILL LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WE DON'T.

I'M SO SORRY.

YOU SAID ONE, FIVE AND SEVEN? I HAVE 1 5 9.

NO, NINE 50.

YOU'RE NINE.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE SOMEBODY FOR ONE AND SEVEN, SO MAYBE DISTRICT, BUT MORE , HER GOOD DISTRICT TO BE FROM MAYBE MANNY WHO? MANNY FERNANDEZ.

UM, HE IS THE HEAD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR CAL HEIGHTS, BUT HE ALSO DOES ANOTHER, LIKE, FRIENDS OF WILLOW SPRING PARK.

SO HE MIGHT BE OVERWHELMED, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

JUST TELL HIM TO ON WEBSITE, PUT AN APPLICATION.

WANT THAT POSITION.

BILL? UM, DID I KNOW SARAH? SARAH AND I, UM, SARAH AND I SENT AN EMAIL, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN, I MEAN, I ASSUME SHE KNOWS SHE HAS A VACANCY BECAUSE WE HAD ONE.

WE ACTUALLY APPROVED, REMEMBER TANYA BURNS? SHE'S DONE EVERYTHING AND THEN SHE GOT SO KNOWS THAT YEAH.

WE, ITEMS THAT WE SAID WE WANTED TO, UM, CONNECT.

ONE IS A REPRESENTATIVE LIBRARY SERVICES I DO THAT WE WANT, SHE, SHE WANTS DO NEXT MONTH.

IS THERE.

WE WERE.

SO WE WERE ALSO IN DISCUSSION WITH THAT.

BUT DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN MIND THAT WE CAN I WAS JUST GONNA ASK CATHERINE AROUND.

OKAY.

LIBRARY FROM, SHE'S THE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY SERVICES.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

I WAS GONNA ASK HER, ASK FOR, ASK HER IF WE COULD OKAY.

YEAH.

HER OR SOMEONE THAT SHE WAS WANT TO, UH, SEND.

OKAY.

DID YOU I TALKED TO PAUL ABOUT IT TODAY AND I PUT IT BACK ON HIS RADAR AND WE WERE THINKING THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIBRARY SERVICES, HOPEFULLY SOMEONE FROM ION KING 'CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY LOCATED HERE.

UM, AND THEN HAVE ONE OF OUR LIBRARY SERVICE OR LIBRARY, UM, CASE MANAGERS.

I THINK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE LIBRARY THEMSELVES, NOT THE SERVICES WORKER, BUT THE LIBRARIAN AND GET HER PERSPECTIVE.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT, THAT WORKS THEN.

OKAY.

DESIREE'S ON THE LIBRARY FOUNDATION BOARD.

OH, .

WELL THEN ANOTHER PERSON THAT'S TOO MUCH.

OKAY.

SO ASK HER FOR TAXES FROM FEBRUARY AND THEN OKAY.

WE'LL DO THAT.

AND THEN NEXT ONE IS, UH, MOST EXPERIENCE ADVISORY BOARD.

I KNOW I HAD A COUPLE

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PAPER, I'M LOOKING FOR THAT.

IT WAS, IT WAS IT, UM, STEPHANIE ATTACHED IT IN THE ZIP FILE.

IS IT NOT THERE? OH, I, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, OKAY, SO I KNOW THERE THIS EXPERIENCE BOARD NEXT TWICE AND HAVE THEIR NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK AS A SERVICE TEAM.

SO, UM, DO THEY HAVE A, A CHAIR OR A CO-CHAIR OR SOMETHING? UM, I DON'T THINK, SINCE THEY'RE NOT OFFICIALLY A BOARD JUST YET, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE A CHAIR, BUT WE CAN CONNECT WITH ALYSSA, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED IT TO HER.

UM, SEE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COME POSSESS OR SOMEONE FROM THE, UH, , SOMEBODY FROM THE BOARD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS A HUD HOUSING EX EXPERT TO TALK ABOUT WHY, UM, SINGLE OFFER SINGLE, SINGLE RESIDENT RESIDENCY.

WAIT, SRO IS IT, IT STANDS FOR, UM, SHARED OCCUPANCY, SINGLE RESIDENT OCCUPANCY, UH, SINGLE ROOM OCC.

YEAH.

SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY.

YEAH.

SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY.

NOT SHARED.

IT'S SINGLE.

IT'S CONVERT HOTELS, UM, THAT WE HAVE.

AND, UM, I JUST READ YESTERDAY ABOUT, UM, A COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET HIRED TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION AND USE VOUCHERS IN SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY UNITS.

WHAT WOULD, UM, IN OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, THEY HAVE A VILLAGE WITH, I WANNA SAY 400 TINY HOMES.

SO YOU CAN TECHNICALLY CALL THEM THE ANCY UNIT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE KITCHENS.

THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN BATHROOMS. OKAY.

YEAH.

AND SO, UM, HUD CAME OUT AND SAW THIS COMMUNITY AND, UM, AND THEY CHARGE RENT.

IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC.

UM, IT'S PRIVATE.

THEY CHARGE RENT AND PEOPLE ARE NOW GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THEIR VOUCHER THERE.

WELL, I, I'M FAMILIAR WITH TINY VILLAGE CONCEPT.

UHHUH, ONE OF MY PET THINGS, UH, VISITED MORE UP IN.

RIGHT.

I'VE SEEN THEM TOO.

YEAH.

AND IT WAS QUITE, WAS GOING ON UP THERE.

AND, UH, DO YOU KNOW SOMEBODY FROM HUDSON CAN COME OUT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES MIGHT BE DOING AS FAR AS VOUCHER, BEING ABLE TO, UM, BE USED IN VILLAGES? YEAH.

WELL THAT'S, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT THEY JUST DID IN AUSTIN, OUTSIDE AUSTIN.

WELL, LEMME TAKE ANOTHER AT HEARING AIDS.

WELL, YEAH.

UM, ON THAT.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT AT LEAST THOSE, UM, LINED UP.

OKAY.

SO PAM, SIX MINUTES AGO SHE SAID SHE'LL BE HERE IN 10 MINUTES.

HOPEFULLY.

SO, UM, WELCOME PAUL.

THANK FOR RUSHING OVER.

WE DON'T HAVE OUR .

UM, LET'S SEE.

I DON'T WANNA MISS APPROVING THE MINUTES AGAIN LIKE I DID LAST TIME.

UH, AND I WANT WAIT UNTIL PAM COMES TO DO SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO NUMBER THREE, PAUL? OR NOT? WE CAN WAIT.

PAM, UP TO YOU.

YEAH, GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

SO WHAT PROCLAMATION ITEM, THE RIGHT? YEAH.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE 19TH UPDATE.

SO THIS OCCURRED JUST A LITTLE BIT AFTER WE MET LAST MONTH.

UH, SO THIS WAS DECEMBER 12TH.

UM, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANOTHER

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ONE SINCE THEY ACTUALLY, UH, INCREASE THE TIME BETWEEN TO 60 DAYS.

SO THE NEXT UPDATE WILL ACTUALLY BE THE LAST UPDATE TO COUNCIL.

SO GO THROUGH.

UM, SO WE DID PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHERE WE'RE AT ON A COUPLE OF OUR PROJECTS.

SO WE GAVE AN UPDATE ON THE TINY HOMES PROJECT AND WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO, UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RESUBMITTING TO THE STATE REGARDING THE NEW LOCATION, UH, AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SPRING AND CALIFORNIA AVENUE.

UM, THIS IS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF, UH, THE WILLOW SPRINGS PARK AREA.

IN A, UH, AREA, THE DESIGNATED LOT IS THE PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY THAT IS ACTUALLY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

UM, THE GOAL IN THE LONG TERM IS TO CON, ONCE THIS PROJECT IS DONE IN 15 YEARS FROM NOW, UM, OR 16 YEARS, 'CAUSE 15 YEARS ONCE IT OPENS, THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE CONVERTED WITHIN THE SPACE INTO PARK SPACE AND WHAT IS THERE AS FAR AS FACILITIES COULD REMAIN TO CONTINUE, UH, PROVIDING SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, IN THE OVERALL PARK SPACE.

SO, UM, WE ARE STILL AWAITING, UH, THE APPROVAL FROM THE STATE.

SO WE'RE JUST GETTING IN, UM, OUR NEW APPLICATION.

SO IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD PUT IN PREVIOUSLY FOR OUR MODULAR SHELTER PROJECT, UH, JUST WITH THE NEW LOCATION.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS THAT THEY WANT TO REASSESS BEFORE, UH, APPROVING AND RELEASING THE FUNDING FOR IT.

UM, SO AS WE LOOK AT MOVING INTO THE NEXT PHASE AND ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, SO AS I HAD MENTIONED, UH, OUR NEXT UPDATE TO COUNCIL WILL BE OUR LAST UPDATE TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION.

SO, UM, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION ITSELF WILL END FEBRUARY 28TH, UH, SO NEXT END OF NEXT MONTH.

UH, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HOMELESSNESS DOES NOT REMAIN A PRIORITY OR A TOP ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY, OR THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT HEAR SOME FORM OF REGULAR UPDATES.

IT'S REALLY THE INTENT AND HOW THE CHARTER FOR THE CITY IS WRITTEN IS THAT WE WILL EXIT AN EMERGENCY AT THE SOONEST POINT THAT MAKES SENSE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT'S NEEDED WITHIN THE EMERGENCY.

SO THERE ARE SOME FINAL THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING TO GET INTO PLACE AS FAR AS POLICY CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ALLOW US TO CONTINUE SOME OF THE, THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGH THE PROCLAMATION.

UM, BUT THE PROCLAMATION STRUCTURE ITSELF, THAT THAT IS NO LONGER THE MECHANISM TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS A LONG-TERM ISSUE THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, SO, UH, THAT IS REALLY THE INTENT OF, UH, ENDING THE PROCLAMATION.

UH, WE'LL DISCUSS SOME OF, SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN WITH KIND OF CHANGING A FEW OF THE STRUCTURES AND HOW WE MANAGE HOMELESSNESS GOING FORWARD.

UM, SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT.

UM, UPDATING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAVE HIRED CITI FABRIC AS A LEAD CONSULTANT TO SUPPORT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE.

UM, WE'RE JUST KIND OF SETTING WHAT OUR TIMEFRAME IS, AS WELL AS CITY FABRIC IS WORKING TO ENGAGE A SECONDARY CONSULTANT THAT THEY WILL BRING ON THAT IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEMS AND DATA MODELING.

SO, UH, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO A FEW DIFFERENT, UM, ENTITIES TO TRY TO BRING IN THAT EXPERTISE.

UH, THEY'RE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF LONG BEACH AND STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORTS, BUT HOMELESSNESS IS NOT NECESSARILY THEIR CORE AREA OF FOCUS.

SO, UH, IT WAS IDENTIFIED BRINGING ON A SECONDARY CONSULTANT, UH, WILL BE NEEDED WITHIN THE PROCESS.

UM, WE ARE HOPING

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TO BEGIN OUR INITIAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, RIGHT AROUND THE, A LITTLE BIT AFTER, UH, FINALIZING THE HOMELESS COUNT.

THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN FOCUS AT THE MOMENT.

BUT ONCE THAT ENDS, WE'LL START TO DO SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, EFFORTS.

SO AS WE TRANSITION OUT OF THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION, WE ARE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT DOES OUR GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE AS A CITY LOOK LIKE AS IT, UH, RELATES TO HOMELESSNESS.

HOW DO WE MANAGE OURSELVES AND HOW DO WE DRIVE THIS WORK GOING FORWARD? SO ONE THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IS THAT PART OF THE VALUE WITHIN OUR EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION IS THAT OUR CITY MANAGER WAS BRINGING ALL DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER.

THIS IS NOT A SINGULAR DEPARTMENT ISSUE.

THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT HEALTH AND WHAT HEALTH CAN DO THROUGH, UM, OUR, OUR HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU, BUT IT IS ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY HAVE A ROLE WITHIN OUR OVERALL RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS AND HOW WE, UH, WORK TO MAKE PROGRESS IN REALLY ADDRESSING THIS EMERGENCY.

SO, UM, AS WE SHIFT OUT OF THE EMERGENCY, WE HAVE CREATED A NEW TEAM WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED LAST NIGHT AT THE STATE OF THE CITY, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NAME OF IT.

IT'S JUST GOT FINALIZED YESTERDAY.

, UM, I THINK IT'S THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC STRATEGIC AND PLANNING OFFICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, WE'LL GET YOU THE, THE FULL NAME FINAL.

THERE'S SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND INITIATIVES THAT .

SO THIS IS THAT.

UM, AND REALLY THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A TEAM WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT'S FOCUSING ON A FEW DIFFERENT KEY AREAS.

UM, LOOKING AT POLICY WITHIN THE CITY, UH, CONVENING THE V VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AT A LEADERSHIP LEVEL TO ENSURE THAT THAT COORDINATION CONTINUES ON.

NOT THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T DO THAT EFFORT, BUT IT IS MORE IMPACTFUL WHEN IT COMES FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UM, AND THEN WHEN THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE US TO WORK ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, LIKE A NEW SHELTER PROJECT OR, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THIS OFFICE WILL TAKE THAT ON.

AND THEY'LL ALSO BE DOING INCREASED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, OUT OF THIS OFFICE AS WELL.

SO THAT IS REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, IS TAKING SOME OF THOSE VERY HIGH LEVEL STRATEGY PLANNING THINGS THAT ARE PERRO CITY DEPARTMENTS.

UM, SO THIS WILL FALL WITH, UH, WITHIN THERESA CHANDLER'S TEAM.

SO, UH, THEY'LL BE HIRING A NEW OFFICER THAT OVERSEES THAT TEAM, UH, WITH, UH, TWO TO THREE STAFF THAT ARE UNDER THAT OFFICER.

SO THAT IS THIS NEW STRUCTURE.

UM, SO IT'S NOT THE EVERYONE HOME OFFICE, WE JUST PUT THAT AT AS A PLACEHOLDER.

UH, SO THAT IS, UH, WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO THE TEAM FOR THIS WILL STILL BE CO-LOCATED WITH THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU.

UH, BUT WE'LL BE A PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY ACROSS THESE AS A TEAM.

BUT THAT TEAM WILL SPECIFICALLY, UH, REPORT TO THERESA.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF A ROUGH TIMELINE.

IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DELAYED, UH, MOVE EVERYTHING BACK BY LIKE A MONTH OR TWO, BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON GETTING EVERYTHING POSTED AND IN PLACE.

UM, SO THE HOPE IS TO HAVE A, THE OFFICER OR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER POSITION, UH, HIRED SOMETIME IN AROUND END OF MARCH, SOMETIME IN APRIL.

UH, AND THEN THAT, THAT TEAM WOULD START HIRING UP FROM THERE.

SO I THINK WE'VE COVERED MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WERE PROVIDED AS UPDATES TO, UM, THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK THROUGH REAL QUICKLY.

UM, WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, TRANSITIONING AND THE STAFF HAVE ALREADY STARTED FROM THE COMMUNICABLE DISEASE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM AS WE EXIT THE EMERGENCY FUNDING FOR A LOT OF THE STAFF THAT WERE HIRED TO RESPOND TO.

COVID HAS COME IN

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ANY, UH, SO WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH STAFF THAT ARE INTERESTED ON STAYING ON BOARD, UH, FOR VACANCIES OF NEW POSITIONS THAT CONTINUE TO BE CREATED.

UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, THIS IS HELPING US STAFF UP AND FILL SOME VACANCIES AS WELL AS PREPARING FOR THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION ROUND Q PROGRAM.

UH, WE ARE STILL WORKING TO GET THAT IN PLACE, UH, WITH NEGOTIATION, NEGOTIATING A MOTEL HOTEL, UH, FOR A YEAR LONG LEASE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME VARIOUS, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THERE WAS A LOT THAT WAS BEING DONE AROUND THE MODULAR SHELTERS WITH ENGAGING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WELL AS WE HOSTED A COMMUNITY CONVENING ON DECEMBER 2ND AT THE LOCATION WHERE WE HAD, UH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY GROUPS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME OUT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL COVER KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE, UH, SAFE SLEEP, UH, REPORT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE STARTED TO INCLEMENT WEATHER, UH, SHELTER OPERATIONS AT THE MSC.

WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE LA COUNTY HOMELESS INITIATIVE ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, POTENTIAL PROJECTS.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN MAKING SOME GOOD PRO PROGRESS AND CONVERSATIONS AROUND A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, INCLUDING THEY ARE DOING A LOCALIZED FUNDING ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT THE STATE'S BEEN FUNDING, BUT UTILIZING LOCAL FUNDS.

SO THEY'LL BE FOCUSING IN ON AN AREA, UH, UP IN NORTH LONG BEACH, RIGHT AROUND WHERE THE, UH, SEVEN 10 AND THE 91 CONNECT RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

SO IT'S KIND OF RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF LONG BEACH AND THEN COUNTY ON INCORPORATED.

SO WE ARE DISCUSSING PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THAT.

UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON ACTUALLY FINALIZING A COUPLE DIFFERENT MOTEL LEASES TO GET A PROJECT UP AND GOING.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING PARTNERSHIP AROUND AN ENCAMPMENT, UH, RESOLUTION ROUND THREE, UH, PROPOSAL TO FOCUS AROUND THE LA RIVER BED.

UH, AND THEN HAVE HAD A COUPLE OTHER CONVERSATIONS AROUND FUNDING ADJUSTMENTS AND, UH, HOW WE CAN STREAMLINE OUR WORK TOGETHER GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

SO SOME GOOD PROGRESS HAPPENING WITH BRINGING IN SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND INCREASED PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY AT OUR COC BOARD, AND WE'VE BEEN BRINGING IT UP IN MULTIPLE SPACES, A GOOD TIME TO BRING IT UP IS THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION THAT IS HAPPENING AROUND SHELTER BED RATES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO, UH, THE CURRENT RATE THAT IS BEING PAID FOR SHELTER BEDS OR ANY BEDS FUNDED THROUGH THE LOS ANGELES HOMELESS SERVICES AUTHORITY HAVE BEEN THE SAME RATE SINCE 27.

SO, AND THINK ABOUT THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME PRETTY EXTREME INFLATION AT MOMENTS AND JUST EVEN IF YOU JUST HAD THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTMENTS YEAR TO YEAR, LIKE THAT'S A LONG TIME TO GO WITHOUT AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE RATE.

UM, SO THE CURRENT RATE FOR BEDS HAS BEEN, MOST BEDS ARE AT 50 THAT ARE BEING FUNDED IN LA COUNTY.

UH, THAT'S BECOME PRETTY CHALLENGING AS FAR AS PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR RATES, MAKING SURE, I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE ANIMATED OR THEY'RE ANIMATED.

OKAY.

.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO THE, UH, BED RATE HAS BEEN ABOUT $50 PER BED FOR MOST BEDS.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE AT 60, UM, BUT FOR SOME OF OUR OWN BEDS HERE IN LONG BEACH, UH, A BC, WE'RE ROUGHLY AT ABOUT $50 PER BED, UH, SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT WITH SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN VARIOUS THINGS.

UM, AND THEN 7 0 2 HAS BEEN AT $50 PER BED.

UM, AND THERE ARE JUST A NUMBER OF SHELTERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE THAT IS REALLY STARTING TO IMPACT, UH, THE VIABILITY GOING FORWARD.

THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT,

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RETAIN STAFF, PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, GOOD FOOD, PROVIDE EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED IN A SHELTER.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THAT GOES INTO IT, YOU KNOW, $50 MIGHT SOUND LIKE A DECENT CHUNK OF MONEY, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN FOOD IS COSTING YOU 20 ISH OF THAT DOLLARS, LIKE THAT LEAVES YOU 34 STAFFING SECURITY, MAINTENANCE COSTS, SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THAT.

SO WE ARE STARTING TO SEE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WITHIN THE QUALITY OF OUR SHELTER.

SO, UH, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, WHO ARE THE TWO LARGEST FUNDERS OF BEDS WITHIN LA COUNTY, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, UM, HOW TO ADJUST THE RATE TO LOSSES.

SO A LARGE REPORT CAME OUT LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE REALISTIC NEEDED BED RATE TO REALLY DO WHAT'S EXPECTED WITHIN SHELTERS.

UH, AND THEY FOUND LIKE, THERE IS A RANGE OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE AVERAGE SHOULD BE AROUND $75, UH, PER NIGHT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THEY CAN DOLLAR AMOUNT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE OVERALL PORTFOLIO.

AND THEN MULTIPLYING THAT, YOU KNOW, TIMES 365 DAYS A YEAR.

UM, BUT THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS ALSO WITH LOSSA.

UH, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADJUSTING BED RATES, UM, THAT WILL BE RETROACTIVE TO JANUARY 1ST.

THEY HAVEN'T FINALIZED WHAT THE RATES ARE GONNA BE FOR EACH SITE QUITE YET.

UM, SO WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS OURSELVES AND LOOKING AT WHAT IS CITY FUNDED AND HOW WE ADJUST AND SUPPORT, UH, THE VARIOUS SHELTERS WITHIN THE CITY.

UH, SO WE, UH, ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THE R PING, THE, UH, BEST WESTERN SITE, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH DURING THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, BUT THERE WILL BE A, OBVIOUSLY AN ADJUSTMENT ON OUR RATE THERE.

UM, SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE ABSORB ADDITIONAL COSTS WITHIN OUR OVERALL PORTFOLIO, BUT REALLY RECOGNIZING THE NEED.

IF WE DON'T ADJUST THESE, WE WILL HAVE REALLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, AND POOR SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AS WELL AS JUST A POOR QUALITY WITHIN OUR SHELTERS IF SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS AREN'T MADE.

SO THAT'S A COUNTY-WIDE CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING NOW THAT IS GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPLICATIONS WITHIN, UH, THE BUDGETS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS WITHIN MEASURE H AS WELL AS THE STATE FUNDING THAT IS, UH, COMING IN.

SO SOME OF THE FOCUS AREAS LOOKING, UM, OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO DEEP INTO THAT 'CAUSE WE'LL COVER THEM WITHIN OUR STAFF UPDATE.

UM, WE DID HAVE THE HOMELESS MEMORIAL ON, UH, DECEMBER 21ST.

UH, WE HAD THAT REQUIRED A PRIOR PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT THERE.

SO, UM, IT'S NICE TO GET TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE AND JUST REMEMBER, UM, SADLY, UNFORTUNATELY REMEMBER PEOPLE THAT HAD DIED WHILE UNSHELTERED LAST YEAR.

UH, BUT WE HAD THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THAT I'VE SEEN, AT LEAST IN MY TIME DOING IT, OF PEOPLE COMING OUT.

SO IT WAS NICE TO SEE PEOPLE COME OUT AND REALLY, UH, BE ABLE TO SHARE STORIES AS WELL AS JUST HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE AND BE TOGETHER.

WE DID HIGHLIGHT A DATA AREA, SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, AS WE, UM, LOOK AT OUR DATA, TAKE INSIGHTS TO CITY COUNCIL TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE SEEING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D BEEN SEEING FOR A WHILE.

IT WAS PART OF WHAT HAD DRIVEN THE DECISION WHEN WE'D HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SENATOR GONZALEZ'S OFFICE, UM, WAS AROUND A PREVENTION PRIORITIZATION FOR OLDER ADULTS.

UH, AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR DATA OF WHO WE'RE SEEING COMING INTO THE SYSTEM OVER THE PAST YEAR, THERE ARE SOME PRETTY ALARMING CONCERNING TRENDS IN A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS.

AREAS, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST CONCERNING IS OLDER ADULTS FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS.

SO THOSE OVER THE AGE OF 65, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE KIND OF GIVE A, A MULTIPLE YEAR, UH, WINDOW.

WE WEREN'T SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY EARLY ON IN THE PANDEMIC.

WE HAD A GOOD AMOUNT OF PROTECTIONS THAT WERE GOING INTO PLACE.

UM, BUT AS WE SAW THE, UH, EVICTION PROTECTIONS, UH,

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COME TO AN END IN LATE 2022, EARLY 2023, WE HAVE SEEN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ACCELERATION OF, UH, PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 65 FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE'RE SEEING ANYWHERE FROM TWO AND A HALF TO THREE TIMES AS MANY AS WE WERE THE YEAR.

SO THAT IS PRETTY ALARMING.

AND CONCERNING THE, UH, HEALTH CONSIDERATIONS AND OTHER IMPACTS OF PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 65 EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IS SIGNIFICANT.

UM, SO LOOKING AT WAYS TO STABILIZE PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT, LOOKING AT THE SHALLOW SUBSIDY AS AN APPROACH TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW INCOME, THAT AREN'T A FIXED INCOME ATTACHED TO, UM, LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS KIND OF OUR INITIAL APPROACH WITHIN THIS.

BUT WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN STABILIZE, UH, OLDER ADULTS WHERE THEY'RE AT AND ENSURE THAT THE RENT IS AFFORDABLE AND THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN AND LIVE WHERE, WHERE THEY ARE.

UM, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT'S MOST PREVALENT THAT DOESN'T OFTEN GET TALKED ABOUT IS FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, ARE AT HIGHEST RISK.

THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN WORKING A MINIMUM WAGE JOB OR, UM, JUST DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF SAVINGS.

EVEN IF YOU'RE MAKING 20, $25 AN HOUR AS SOMEBODY THAT WAS 65, IF YOU'VE NOT PAID A GOOD CHUNK INTO SOCIAL SECURITY WHEN YOU RETIRE, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AN IMMEDIATE REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT YOU HAVE.

SO YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN JUST MAINTAINING WITH YOUR INCOME, UH, WHEN YOU GET TO RETIREMENT, THAT REDUCTION.

AND AS YOU START TO PAY SOCIAL SECURITY, YOU MAY SEE THAT YOUR INCOME GOES DOWN BY 15, 20% AND YOU KNOW, A 5% INCREASE IN YOUR RENT AT THAT SAME TIME.

WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AT SITUATIONS WHERE THEY MIGHT'VE BEEN SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, THE YEAR PRIOR, PREVIOUS, BUT AS SOON AS THEY'VE HIT THAT RETIREMENT, UM, THEY'RE AT A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE RETIRED? JUST SOCIAL SECURITY, NOTHING ELSE.

AND IT'S NOT A WAGE.

ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN WORKING MINIMUM WAGE FROM MOST OF THEIR CAREER LIKELY DOES NOT HAVE ANY SAVINGS.

UM, AND THEN WE JUST GAVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE HOMELESS COUNT.

AS PEOPLE HAVE PROBABLY SEEN, UH, I DID RELEASE THEIR OVERALL NUMBERS FOR THE ENTIRE US IT IS A 12% INCREASE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

IT'S THE LARGEST INCREASE, UH, AND THE HISTORY WHERE WE'VE BEEN DOING A, A HOMELESS COUNT, SO THIS IS POST 2007, UH, 12% IS THE LARGEST INCREASE.

AND I THINK AS WE LOOK AT AGAIN, UH, EVICTION PROTECTIONS COST CONTINUING TO RISE INFLATION, I THINK THERE IS REASON TO BE CONCERNED THAT THIS IS NOT A SINGLE YEAR INCREASE TREND.

THAT THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT 20, THIS 2024 COUNT WILL SEE A PROBABLY SIMILAR INCREASE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS PRETTY CONCERNING.

NOT TO BE, UH, TOO DEEP, STAY ON THE NUMBERS, BUT THE TREND IS THE TREND.

IT'S, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THIS.

S WHAT STAKEHOLDERS ARE LIKE A SESSION FOR US ? YEAH.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN SPECIFICALLY INTO HOW WE'RE GOING TO NECESSARILY BREAK OUT, UM, HAVING INPUT GROUPS.

UM, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED AS BEING KEY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR ENGAGEMENT OF PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE AND THEIR INPUT WITHIN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE IS CONVERSATION OF WHO HAS INPUT AT WHAT POINT AND LIKE HOW THAT GETS STAGED, UH, AND HOW WE BRING PEOPLE INFORMATION.

SO

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THAT IS STILL BEING DEVELOPED SOMEWHAT.

UM, BUT EARLY ON, OUR GOAL IS TO GET, UH, INPUT FROM PEOPLE WITH CONTENT EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE WITHIN THIS AREA VERSUS LIKE THE LARGER, BROADER COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO HAVE A SOMEWHAT DEVELOPED PLAN BEFORE WE GO TO THEM.

IT'S NOT ALL THAT HELPFUL AS SOMEBODY ISN'T REALLY STEEPED IN THE INFORMATION TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? BUT THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THEM TO REALLY REACT TO.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH EXACTLY HOW THAT GETS STAGED, BUT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES.

SO, UH, HOW WE ENGAGE WITH OUR TWO GOVERNANCE, UH, ENTITIES WITH ASAC AND THE COC HAS NOT BEEN FULLY DETERMINED, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY WILL BE ENGAGEMENT WITH BOTH GROUPS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE THIS NUMBER.

HOW MANY ACTUALLY FUNDED SUBSTANCE? IT IS IN OUR, WELL, ONES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

WE DO HAVE, IN OUR HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT, THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMAL BEDS THAT ARE SERVING PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE OUT ON THE STREET WITHIN OUR SOBER LIVING PORTFOLIO.

I DON'T HAVE A, THERE IS NO LIKE CENTRALIZED NUMBER FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO REQUIRED REPORTING MECHANISM.

THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY OVERSEEING OR HAVE ANY CLEAR REGULATIONS.

IF THERE ARE LESS THAN 16 PEOPLE WITHIN A HOUSE.

THERE IS NO PERMITTING OR OVERSIGHT, UH, OF THOSE SETTINGS.

OKAY.

THANKS PAUL.

UM, SO I'M GONNA DIGRESS AND ORDER.

SURE.

UH, CHAIR JULIE LEE HERE.

UH, VICE CHAIR DESIREE RUE.

HERE.

MEMBER SUSANNA SINNA.

HERE.

MEMBER JEFFREY JOHNSON.

HERE, MEMBER JIM HOWETT.

HERE.

MEMBER SARAH BEATTY.

ABSENT MAR MEMBER MARY SIMMONS.

ABSENT MEMBER PAM ZI.

HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 1ST AND FROM DECEMBER 6TH, 2020.

PLEASE.

I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 1ST OR, UH, DECEMBER 6TH? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE.

JEN, YOU WANNA UPDATE MAYOR SUBCOMMITTEE? WELL, WE, OUR PULSE SPRAY, BECAUSE WE, THERE WAS A BIG WASN'T, SO WE STILL GOT A LOT.

WE ACTUALLY DID NOT DO THAT WELL.

AND THE, UH, FUNDRAISING THIS TIME RAISED A TOTAL OF 14.

SO THAT GOOD FUNDRAISING, UH, I THINK, TO BE HONEST, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE DIFFICULT RAISE FUNDS FOR HOMELESSNESS.

WE'RE EXPERIENCING A, UH, AT OUR MEETING WE HAD, UH, ONE PROPOSAL THAT CAME IN, BUT WE DID NOT FORWARD IT TO THE COMMITTEE.

UH, I RAISED SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED A WHILE AGO.

WE HAD NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND, UH, WE SORT OF LIBERALIZED THE APPROACH TO OUR FRIENDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY THOUGHT EARLY ON THAT, UH, WAS SORT OF AN EMERGENCY.

A HOMELESS PROVIDER HAD AN EMERGENCY NEED, WE WOULD BE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND, UH, BUT ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T GET THAT MANY

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REQUESTS, TO BE HONEST.

SO WE WERE SITTING ON OUR MONEY.

SO WE DID LIBERAL, I SAID, AND OPENED IT UP, PEOPLE COMING IN WITH JUST GENERAL GRANTS, BASICALLY REQUESTING GENERAL THINGS.

AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FOR SUPPLIES LIKE BACKPACKS AND LITTLE DAILY AND SOLID LIVING STUFF TO HOMELESS.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS WHAT WE INTENDED, THAT THAT WOULD BE OUR APPROACH.

THAT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE EXISTING BUSINESSES, HOMELESS SERVICES GOING.

AND, UH, WE, FOR INSTANCE, WE DID HAVE A, A LARGE REQUEST, UH, $20,000 FOR BACKPACKS TO BE GIVEN OUT.

AND, UH, WE'RE MEETING AGAIN ON THAT ONE.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED, WE'VE SOME DIRECTION ON THAT, THAT, UH, THESE THINGS ARE, WERE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THESE IN.

AND WE'VE GIVEN OUT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.

UH, AND ACTUALLY THE GRANTS HAVE COME IN, THE ONES WE, I KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH SMALL, UH, I CAN'T USE IT AS NONPROFITS, BUT SMALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE EXPERTISE.

BUT THEN AGAIN, UH, I KNOW THE LAST ONE TOOK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE, UH, STAFF BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY SLIM WHEN IT CAME IN QUITE A LOT OF WORK.

BUT, UH, WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT.

THIS MONEY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH ANYMORE AND, UH, TIGHTEN UP A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, PERHAPS, UH, WHAT HAPPENS NOW THAT GRANT GOES STAFF AND STAFF TAKES A LOOK AT, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO INITIALLY LOOK AT IT WITH A COMMITTEE AND SAY WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA GO AHEAD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT ON IT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SORT OF CHANGE IN PROCEDURE, BUT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE.

AND STICK MORE TO OUR INITIAL CONCEPT, THIS FUND OF LAST RESORT TO KEEP YOU IN BUSINESS.

TO ME IT WAS THE TYPE OF THING, THE TYPE OF THING I WOULD SEE US DOING IS IF A PROVIDER, IF A STOVE BROKE DOWN OR SOMETHING AND THEY HAD TO BUY A NEW ONE IMMEDIATELY TO FUND THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND MOVING ON.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

MORE OF A LOOK AT.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

IS IS THERE A, UM, LIKE A, I GUESS A RULE OR PROCEDURE THAT THIS COMMITTEE COULD NOT REVIEW? UM, THE PROPOSALS FIRST? I MEAN, I GUESS I'M ASKING LIKE, IS THAT A, WELL, I THINK, IS IT SOMETHING THAT IT JUST, WE ARE JUST DOING? OR IS IT WRITTEN SOMEWHERE THAT, UM, STAFF HAS TO REVIEW IT FIRST? I THINK INITIALLY WE DID IT, IT'S OUR SPEED THEM UP.

IN OTHER WORDS, HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, DO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND DO IT.

BUT, UH, I THINK WE'VE GONE A LITTLE BEYOND THAT.

SO, RIGHT.

IT, IT CHANGED BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, AND JEFF REMEMBER, IT USED TO BE THAT THE FUNDS WERE HOUSED IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TREASURY.

AND WHEN THAT OCCURRED THEN, THEN IT MADE SENSE FOR STAFF TO BE THE FIRST DIVE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME PROCESSES THAT WERE JUST SO UNIQUE IN THE WAY THAT THE CITY WANTED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THERE WAS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE FUNDS.

BUT THEN WHEN WE MOVED IT TO THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, IT SORT OF, IT, IT FREED UP A, A LITTLE BIT OF THE FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT REQUIREMENT.

AND SO, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING WRITTEN IN, IN TERMS OF PROCEDURES OF HOW THE, UM, GRANT APPLICATIONS ARE EVALUATED.

AND SO, UM, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR COMMITTEE WANTED THE FIRST REVIEW, AND ACTUALLY MAYBE JOLENE, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW, 'CAUSE JOLENE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THAT WEBSITE, THE GRANT APPLICATION, UM, I THINK IT WAS HER INTENT TO MAKE IT SIMPLER FOR SURE.

AND IT IS QUITE SIMPLE.

BUT, UM, MAYBE THE, THE PIECE WE'RE MISSING IS THAT FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY

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WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, GIVEN, WE'VE WRITTEN CHECKS FOR 40, ALMOST $45,000 IN THE LAST, I ASSUME 12 MONTH PERIOD HERE, I'M LOOKING AT, AND $45,000 IS SORT OF SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE ONLY RAISING $14,000 A MONTH OR SO.

IT TAKES US, YOU KNOW, THIS LONG.

UM, AND WE AWARDED $68,000 WORTH OF GRANTS.

SO I GUESS, UM, PAUL, YOU CAN ASK, TELL US IF, IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMITTEE TO BE MORE FUN, YOU KNOW, MORE HANDS ON, RIGHT.

HOW THE, HOW IS WRITTEN THIS FAR AS REVIEWING WHAT GOES THERE IS VARIOUS SPARS.

THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT EXISTS WITHIN, UM, THE AGREEMENT AND WHAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE WHEN THE FUNDING WENT TO, UH, FROM THE CITY FINANCIAL, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INTO LONG BEACH CITY FOUNDATION.

WHAT DOES EXIST IS WE ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF RELEASE OF FUNDS AS WELL AS THE AWARD OF FUNDS.

UM, IS DESIGNATED TO EITHER THE DIRECTOR OR MYSELF, UH, AS THE KEY PERSON FOR SAYING, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS A WORK.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE KIND OF SET UP ANCILLARY STRUCTURES TO SUPPORT THE WORK AND TO IDENTIFY, UM, WHO GETS AWARDED.

BUT ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT BOTH PARTIES SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT LIKE, THIS MAKES SENSE TO AWARD, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, WE STILL HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN JUST GIVE SOMEBODY THE MONEY AND HEY, LET US KNOW HOW IT WENT WITH THE 10 GRAND GETTING, BUT IT STILL LEAVES.

YOU HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THERE ARE RECEIPTS AND SOME SORT OF BILLING TO SHOW THAT LIKE WHAT WAS AWARDED WAS SPENT IN ANY WAY THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE AWARDED.

WHAT WE ARE FINDING WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING A SIMPLE PROPOSAL, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CREATING A LOT MORE WORK.

BOTH, YOU KNOW, ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE FOR US AS WELL AS THE AGENCIES THAT ARE APPLYING FOR THIS.

WHEN WE HAVE TO, TO GO BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR TIMES TO ASK FOR WHAT WE'RE NEEDING, THAT'S ACTUALLY TAKING A LOT MORE WORK ON BOTH SIDES.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT LIKE WORK ON ONE SIDE.

UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT IT INTERNALLY.

WE DO THINK WE DO ACTUALLY NEED TO ASK A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND ALSO IT'S NOT LIKE EVEN JUST ABOUT MORE, IT'S JUST BEING ALSO CLEARER UP FRONT OF WHAT WE EXPECT WITHIN WHAT YOU ARE SUBMITTING.

SO IT MAY JUST BE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PAGE OR SO MAYBE AND ASKING FOR MORE CLARITY WITHIN THE BUDGET.

AND EVEN ALLOWING, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BUDGET TEMPLATE THAT YOUR AGENCY IS USING, HERE'S A TEMPLATE THAT YOU CAN GET FROM US WITH CLEAR, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE MATCHING IN AND FROM WHAT RESOURCES.

THAT WAY WE CAN CLEARLY SEE.

OFTENTIMES WE'LL SOMETIMES GET A BUDGET THAT IS LIKE, HERE'S MY OVERALL PROJECT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 150 GRAND.

I'M ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, 10 FROM YOU.

AND IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR 10 IS PAYING FOR AND WHERE THE REST OF IT IS COMING FROM.

AND IT'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.

FIRST.

IT'S JUST BEING CLEAR UP FRONT OF THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE, LIKE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR WE'RE FUNDING AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S ASKING FOR A LOT MORE, BUT IT'S JUST ADDING A FEW THINGS AND ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND REALLY GUIDANCE FRONT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOMEWHERE IT'S GOTTEN REALLY SMOOTH AND SOMEWHERE IT HAS TAKEN US THREE, FOUR MONTHS OF BACK AND FORTH TO GET TO EVEN FEELING LIKE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE PAYING FORWARD.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST HOW WE HELP.

THERE IS SOME CONVERSATIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD WITH HILTON FOUNDATION ABOUT BRINGING IN SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP WITH LIKE, UH, CAPACITY AND CONSULTING ABILITY TO SUPPORT SOME OF OUR SMALLER NONPROFITS.

THAT THIS MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME, UH, THAT AN ORGANIZATION IS ASKING FOR FUNDING.

HAVING SOMEBODY THAT CAN SIT DOWN WITH THAT PERSON AND HELP THEM IN CREATING A PROPOSAL.

'CAUSE THIS ISN'T GONNA BE, IF, IF AN ORGANIZATION'S WANTING TO GET GOING AND DOING SOMETHING LARGER, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE FUND THAT DOES THAT.

LIKE THEY

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ARE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO GO TO OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, OTHER PHILANTHROPY ORGANIZATIONS OR APPLY TO GOVERNMENT FUNDING.

SO REALLY TRYING TO UTILIZE THIS AS AN EFFORT TO ALSO BUILD THAT CAPACITY TOWARDS LIKE, HEY, WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE THAT IS GOING TO HELP YOU BE SUSTAINABLE? THAT WAY AGAIN, IT ISN'T A RESOURCE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY MEANT TO BE A LONG TERM DURABLE THING, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A YEAR WHERE WE ONLY GET IN 15, $20,000.

LIKE THAT IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE FOR AN ORGANIZATION.

YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THE WORK, THE BACK JUST TO GET PRESENTABLE TO THE COMMITTEE AND I WANNA BE PROTECTIVE.

IMAGINE EVEN IF APPLICATION COMMITTEE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF UPDATING THINGS.

SOME THINGS I'M THINKING ABOUT MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER VIDEO OR RIGHT THAT WAY, NOT ALL ON THE TEMPLATE ITSELF, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST EXPLAIN IN A VIDEO THAT PEOPLE CAN ON AND LISTEN TO IT AND TAKE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE NEED.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT MAYBE WE WANNA ADD IS WHAT DO WE SOFT GAP PRIORITY, RIGHT? NOT FOR SPECIFIC MATERIALS THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE SERVICES AT THIS TIME.

UM, IT COULD BE, UH, UH, THIS IS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES IN WHICH LIKE WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN EQUIPMENT AND OR I KNOW SOMETIMES WE OFFER BECOMING NEW ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING MORE, SO MAYBE IT'S TYPE OF THING THAT IS MORE TOWARDS EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT DIFFERENTLY.

AND SO THERE'S THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.

PRETTY GENERIC STATED IN THERE.

UM, SO MAYBE, BUT I THINK A VIDEO WILL HELP KIND OF COVER SOME OF THE DON'T, AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT AS A TEMPLATE AND THE HAVING A BUDGET TEMPLATE EXPECTATION.

WELL, I THINK REALLY SORT OF A SPLIT RESPONSIBILITY HERE.

YES, I HARDLY AGREE THAT THAT THE FISCAL SIDE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I THINK IT IS UP TO THE COMMITTEE AS TO THE PURPOSE AND WHAT, WHAT WE ARE PLANNING.

AND I THINK THAT WAS MY THOUGHT, WHY IT SHOULD COME TO THE COMMITTEE TO UNDERSTAND IF IT'S EVEN SOMETHING WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING BEFORE.

THERE'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT LOOKING AT THEIR ACTUALLY, UH, ONCE WE'VE GOT RECENTLY, UH, DON'T HAVE MUCH WAY OF FISCAL BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THEY'RE NEW AND THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING, BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THINGS THAT ARE LIKE NEW OR INNOVATIVE.

WE'RE BASICALLY GETTING, AND I HATE TO SAY THIS WAY OUT, HELPS PEOPLE, BUT ARE WE REALLY DOING ANYTHING WITH MONEY? AND UH, SO I THINK IF WE COULD BIGGER WAY OF PERHAPS SENDING OUT THE PROPOSALS WHEN WE, TO THE COMMITTEES MEMBERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WE, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SOMETHING WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING.

AND, UH, AND DURING THAT TIME IT COULD BE THE, IT COULD DO THE FISCAL THING, OF COURSE, SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE MIGHT NOT WANT DO THAT PROJECT.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND UH, OKAY.

UM, I I'M HEARING A LOT OF THINGS FLOATING HERE.

YEAH.

UM, THE WEBSITE ACTUALLY, UM, GOING BACK TO WHAT JOLENE DID, IT DOES SET SOME PRIORITIES AND MOST OF THE PRIORITIES, OR I CAN JUST READ YOU THE PRIORITIES THAT SHE CAME UP WITH THAT.

AND WE AS A, AS A LARGER COMMITTEE AND AS THE WHOLE COMMITTEE DID GO OVER IT WITH HER, SUSANNA WAS ON THERE.

AND SO IT, IT'S RELOCATION ASSISTANCE, SHELTER SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS

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AND REPAIRS, REPLACEMENT OF MISSION CRITICAL EQUIPMENT, MOVEMENT ASSISTANCE, IMMEDIATE SHELTER NEEDS.

THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IDENTIFYING BECAUSE THEY WERE THINGS THAT WE SAW WOULD BE IMPACTFUL.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE PANDEMIC SORT OF SCRAMBLED THAT A BIT AND MADE US LOSE OUR FOCUS.

BUT I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A WELL THOUGHT OUT LIST THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO REVIEW AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO A VIDEO.

THE NEXT ONE IDEA, BECAUSE WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR MESSAGING, RIGHT? I DID TALK TO, UM, BONNIE AL, WHO WAS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE THAT ESTABLISHED NOT ONLY SAP, BUT THE, THEIR SON TOO ABOUT HER INTENTIONS AND, AND THEIR ATTENTIONS BACK THERE.

AND IT WAS TO BE IMPACTFUL AND HOWEVER YOU DEFINE IMPACTFUL 30 YEARS AGO AS TO NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT THEN THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED, RIGHT? SO IF WE CAN PUT 20, 24 LENSES ON AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE RELEVANT AND HER THING, SHE JUST MADE A, A DONATION TO THE FUND THAT WAS, UM, I GOT PRETTY GENEROUS.

AND THE FIRST THING WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SHE COULD HAVE HAD HER FRIENDS MAKE DONATIONS IF SHE HAD AN IMPACT REPORT, IF WE COULD DO AN ANNUAL IMPACT REPORT YEAH.

THAT WOULD OF THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU, YOU ALL ARE BEEN KEEPING TRACK OF.

AND SO THAT THEY KNOW, OH, IF YOU ARE GONNA DONATE $5,000, YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THESE SERVICES, YOU KNOW, SHELTER SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OR WHATEVER.

AND SO, UM, SHE, UM, SHE'S MORE THAN HAPPY IF WE WANT HER TO COME HERE OR COME HEAR ME.

WANT, WANT ANY HISTORICAL BACKGROUND.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH.

I THINK, YEAH, I MEAN THAT AT ONE POINT WE WERE USING THE FUNDS TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE MOTEL STAY BECAUSE THAT WAS AN IMMEDIATE SHELTER ABLE TO BE MET BY OTHER.

SO TO ME THE, THE CURRENT PROCESS I THINK WORKS PRETTY WELL.

LIKE WE COULD PROBABLY DEBATE THE FRINGES OF YOU A LITTLE MORE.

DATA, DATA, WHATEVER.

IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT BETTER THAN USED TO BE, OH MY GOSH, PEOPLE SHOW UP AND YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

AND THERE WAS NO TEMPLATE , NO TEMPLATE, NO FORM OR ANYTHING.

UM, AND, AND IT WAS FRUSTRATING FOR THEM BECAUSE WE WOULD JUST RUN AROUND.

YEAH.

UM, AND THEN LIKE WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE COMMITTEE CRITERIA, IT WAS A GAP NEED.

AND SO THE EXAMPLES WERE THINGS LIKE, OH MY .

BUT IT WAS NEVER VERY SPECIFIC A GAP NEED TO ME.

IT'S JUST IF THERE'S A NEED NOT BEING GAS.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY STUFF THAT, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF THE MONEY AND, AND THERE WAS A PERIOD THERE WHERE WE JUST WEREN'T DISTRIBUTED.

IT WAS JUST A NUMBER KEPT GOING UP AND I FELT LIKE WE WEREN'T DOING OUR JOB, PEOPLE WEREN'T PUTTING MONEY IN TO DO GOOD AND THEN WE WEREN'T PUTTING MONEY.

UM, AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD FLOW.

LIKE THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INPUTS AND OUTPUTS, YOU KNOW, WE BRING IN MONEY AND PUT OUT MONEY, WE'D PROBABLY BRING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE PUT OUT.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE A PROBLEM WHERE LIKE OUT MONEY MORE RESTRICT TO ME KIND OF THING A TO MAKE SURE IT GIVE YOU SOME MONEY.

LIKE IF WE WERE A TAXPAYER SITTING HERE, WOULD WE AGREE WITH US? WE USE MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND ALSO I, I THINK TO ME WHEN I, WHEN I THINK OF THAT GAP NEED THING, IT'S MORE ABOUT YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST, YOU DON'T WANNA BE BAILING OUT AN ORGANIZATION WHO DOESN'T HAVE, I GUESS IT'S AN OPERATING EXPENSE.

THEY, IF THEY HAVE TO RELY ON US, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THEY STILL NEED THAT MONEY FOR THEIR BASIC OPERATING EXPENSES.

TO ME, THAT MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD USE ONLY BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF PROPPING UP THE FUNCTION THAT ISN'T WORKING ON ITS OWN VERSUS LIKE FILLING A GAP WHERE LIKE, OH YEAH, OUR NORMALLY EVERYTHING'S FINE, BUT WE HAVE THIS BIG EXPENSE HERE.

UM, BUT OVERALL TO ME, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB PROCESS GENERALLY WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE CAREFUL NOT TO ADD MORE

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STEPS TO THE PROCESS, BUT WE'LL SPLIT.

IS THERE, IS THERE ANY EVALUATION BESIDES THE RECEIPT? YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF REIMBURSEMENT OR? IT USED TO BE, OKAY.

I CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE IT'S FIRSTHAND.

IT USED TO BE THAT WE REQUIRED EVERY ORGANIZATION WHEN THEY WERE PAID UP IN FULL TO PROVIDE LIKE A ONE PAGE SUMMARY OF WHAT THINGS THOUGHT THEY ACCOMPLISHED WITH.

IT WAS VERY, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY BRIEF AND YOU KNOW IT, AND THAT WOULD BE ABLE, THAT INFORMATION WE COULD USE IN OUR IMPACT.

HMM.

SURE.

LIKE CHECK OR JUST, I MEAN IT WAS PRETTY, IT WAS SURE.

WE ALWAYS DO PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, FOR EACH AGENDA ITEM.

SO, UM, ARE WE, UM, MAYBE I WOULD SUGGEST THE COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT LIKE WHAT ARE FUNDING THAT YEAH.

PROCESS THAT YOU'RE, AND THERE TO ME IS I EACH YEAR WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE OR FIRST YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO YEAR 2024.

THESE ARE PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE CAN DEFINE WHAT IT COULD BE FOR EACH YEAR BECAUSE AS WE KNOW EACH YEAR, SO WE CALL 68 68 44, SORRY.

YEAH.

40, 44.

IN OTHER WORDS, A LOT OF TIMES GRANT ORGANIZATION, WHICH WE'RE SO A GRANT WOULD IMPRESS OTHER PEOPLE TO DO GRANTS.

WELL, THEY WOULD'VE A FEELING THAT WE'D BEEN CHECKED OUT, CHECKED OUT POTENTIALLY.

AND THIS ONE DECIDED TO MAKE A GRANT SO IT WOULD HELP THEM IN RAISING OTHER, OKAY.

UM, YEAH, SO I, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GOOD NEXT COMMITTEE YES.

SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN YOU CAN REPORT BACK TO US.

AND, AND, AND, UM, I KNOW STAFF HAS A LOT OF INPUT.

EVERYBODY'S, UM, ELOISE, HE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A COMMENT.

YES, I WAS GONNA SAY, AS RECIPIENT OF THE GRANT, IT DID HELP US TO BE ABLE TO OUTREACH AND REACH MORE PEOPLE THAN WE WOULD NORMALLY BE ABLE TO.

IT DID GO INTO, UM, OUR FUNDS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED OTHER DONATIONS AS WELL.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO REACH NOT ONLY ON HOW FOR LONG BEACH, LIKE THOSE THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BLESS THE LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE ON OUR STUDENTS WITH FUNDS.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO ALSO BLESS THE PRECIOUS PRESCHOOL IN REGARDS TO THAT.

I DID FILL LOT OF GRANT APPLICATION FOR 20,000.

AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ON IS BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO THE COMMUNITY CHAMPION COMMUNITY MEETING, I WAS INTRODUCED TO THE LONG BEACH CITY, UM, THE LBCC ON HOW STUDENTS COORDINATE.

I WAS INTRODUCED TO THE DIRECTOR FOR THE PRECIOUS LANDS PRESCHOOL.

I WAS INTRODUCED TO A OTHER FEW OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH THAT HAD STATED THAT THEY HAD NEEDS FOR ITEMS THAT WERE NECESSARY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, A COMMITMENT TO OR CONNECTION TO.

IT TOOK MY HEART TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I HONESTLY, THE MANY YEARS I'VE PASSED OUT CARE PACKAGES AND BLANKET TO THE HOMELESS HAS PRIMARILY BEEN ON THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY.

I HAD NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT ANY STUDENTS UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT ANY OF PRE SCHOOLS BECAUSE I HAD NOT HAD ANY INTRODUCTION TO ANY OF ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY ORGANIZATION CAME UP WITH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO ASSIST OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BESIDES USING OUR CLUB THAT WE RECEIVE ON A DONATION BASIS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL.

'CAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE DO IT FOR THE HOLIDAY, WE DO IT

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EVERY OTHER MONTHLY BY, SORRY, BY MONTHLY, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL.

WE DID NEED THE ASSISTANCE IN REGARDS TO LIKE THE PANDEMIC THIS YEAR, PAST COUPLE.

IT DID TAKE EFFECT ON PEOPLE DONATING.

SO SOME OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE GRANT WAS ABLE TO REACH MORE PEOPLE THIS YEAR.

YEAH, THAT WAS GOOD.

SO THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, UM, CARE, OUR THANK YOU.

THANKS.

UM, OKAY, CAN WE GO ON TO THE NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT? READ VERY QUICKLY.

.

OKAY.

THANKS JEN.

UM, SO SARAH COULD BE WITH US, UH, SHE'S BEEN WORKING HARD ON OUR POLICY NEEDS SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, FOR OLD BUSINESS.

UM, THE COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON CREATING A COMPARATIVE DRAFT BUDGET FOR SAFETY SLEEP SITE USING INFORMATION FROM PROGRAMS EXISTING DENVER, EUGENE, AND OTHER LOCATION.

AND, UM, SHE'S GONNA BE PUTTING TOGETHER SPREADSHEETS THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE, UM, TO STAFF MEMBERS TO SHARE WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE DOES NOT SHARED A PROGRAM FEASIBILITY UPDATE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE SHARED SOME POTENTIAL SAFETY LOCATIONS TO, UM, THE STAFF DOING THAT REPORT.

OUR NEW BUSINESS, UM, THE CITY STAFF SHARED THAT THEY'RE EXPLORING PROVIDING TRASH SERVICES AT LOCAL ENCAMPMENTS TO MINIMIZE TRAUMA DISRUPTION AND, UM, REDUCE COSTS CAUSED BY CITY SUITES COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR RECOMMENDED, UM, OH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS RECOMMENDED PROVIDING TOILET HAND WASHING STATION AND SHOWER STATION AT CAMPUS AS WELL.

UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS DISCUSS NEW YORK CITY'S SHELTERING OF ABOUT 20%, OR IT'S 90% OF THEIR UNHOUSED POPULATION.

AND THIS IS SARAH'S NOTE.

SO SHE SAYS THAT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MORE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUAL SIDES FROM HYPOTHERMIA IN CALIFORNIA THAN ON THE EAST COAST BECAUSE IN THE EAST COAST THEY HAVE IN TRIGGER, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS SHARED THAT, UM, AN UNHOUSED INDIVIDUAL DIED EVERY THREE OR FOUR DAYS IN THE STREETS OF LONG BEACH BASED ON WHAT WAS REPORTED AT THE, UM, AT THE MEMORIAL SERVICE THAT PAUL ATTENDED.

UM, AND SO THAT'S IT.

AND THEN, UM, SO IF YOU, IF YOU AS THINK THE MEMBERS NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SHOULD UM, SARAH HAVE SOME PUT TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION ALSO, UM, YOU ANYTHING COVERED.

COVERED IT.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THAT'S IT.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON PLEASE? WE'RE CONTINUING AND I GONNA MEET WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE'VE ONE AND THREE AND I KNOW JEFFREY'S GONNA TRY TO SCHEDULE AND JILL, YOU'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE AND PAM HAS MET WITH TWO, I'M TRYING YEAH.

AND SCHEDULE.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS WELL AS WE'RE, BUT UM, I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS SAFE SLEEP, UM, PILOT PROPOSAL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UH, ELOISE, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, OTHER COMMENTS? UM, WHAT WE DID, WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION DID IS THAT WE DID PROVIDE PICTURES AND ACTUALLY IN REGARDS TO HOW I WOULD SUGGEST REGARDS TO SHOWING ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHAT IT'S THAT THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED.

GREAT.

THANKS.

OKAY.

UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL SUBCOMMITTEE? OH, I FORGOT IT'S CC, YES.

I HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES FOR YOU.

UM, THEY'RE RESTRUCTURING THEIR SUBCOMMITTEES, WHICH IS, I THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE IT MORE STRAIGHT.

WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON MARCH.

UM, IT'S REALLY LIKE, IT'S REALLY GOOD IDEAS.

THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE, UM, LOOKING AT LIKE DIFFERENT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA CALL THOSE STAGES? DIFFERENT STAGES WITHIN OUR SYSTEM RESPONSE.

SO IT'S DIFFERENT STAGES RATHER THAN LIKE POLICIES THAT COMMITTEE.

SO IT'S LIKE MORE

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THAT THOSE STAKEHOLDERS WORKING IN THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES WILL HAVE MORE, I THINK OUR DIALOGUE LIKE, BECAUSE IT WAS YESTERDAY AT THOSE FINALLY, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE SUB COMMUNITIES WILL HAVE BETTER DIALOGUE.

THEY'LL BE BETTER.

UM, THERE'S TWO OPEN SEATS ON THE BOARD I FEEL LIKE.

ARE WE TOO? OKAY.

I WAS PART TWO.

UM, ANY NOMINATIONS? UM, TO HOMELESS SERVICES? THE VARIOUS TWO.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT ATTENDANCE AND THEN WE TALKED, THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE HUNDRED 20 DAYS FOR PEOPLE LIKE GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CONTRACTED WITH IT IN UNDER 20 DAYS.

THEY HAVE TO BE ATED IN THE SYSTEM, BUT THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE IN LIKE ON THE LIST, YOU'RE NOT LIKE AT THE END OF THE LIST.

IT'S JUST PUTTING IN A PROGRAMMING.

SO IT'S MOSTLY LIKE, JUST SO I FEEL LIKE THAT LIST CAN BE CLEAN.

SO THEN LIKE OUR STAFF, THEY HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY OR HAVEN'T CONTACTED THAT PERSON IN TO TALK TO.

UM, AND THEN ALREADY TALKS ABOUT THE BED AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

ATTENDANCE.

WE GET OUR, I WONDER IF THE NEXT HOMELESS ACCOUNT, IF SOMEBODY'S OPENING REMARKS THEY COULD MENTION THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE, DON'T WE HAVE? I DO.

OKAY.

UM, CAN I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE, UM, SUB ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REPEATING, FOLLOWING ALL SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES, SAY AYE.

OPPOSED.

PASS IT.

OKAY.

SO PAUL ALREADY DID HIS HOMELESS APPROXIMATION UPDATE.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAD ONE.

IT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT TO SAY.

UM, YOU HAD A, A REAL QUICK SLIDE ON THE UPCOMING DONATION, RIGHT? OR DID IT ALREADY HAPPEN? IT ALREADY HAPPENED.

THAT WAS IN DECEMBER.

OKAY.

SO I WAS WONDERING, SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THESE SEMI-REGULARLY, RIGHT? IF, HOW, HOW, HOW DOES ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ELOISE'S ACCESS THE INVENTORY OF DONATED ITEMS? YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A WAREHOUSE DONATED ITEMS. YEAH.

UM, PRETTY SURE THERE'S A LINK ON THE WEBSITE.

IF NOT, WE DID SEND OUT AN EMAIL A WHILE BACK WHEN WE FIRST HAD THIS INVENTORY, SORRY, INVENTORY SHEET, BUT I AM WORKING WITH SOMEONE TO GET A FLYER GOING SO THAT WAY WE CAN SEND IT OUT MORE REGULARLY.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OUR ORGANIZATIONS CAN SIGN UP AND SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

YEAH.

DID YOU KNOW ABOUT IT? YES.

OKAY.

IT SENT IT OUT.

I THINK IT WAS THE MONTH BEFORE LAST.

GREAT.

THAT WAS SENT OUT AND IT WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN, BUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WERE REALLY WORKING TOWARDS THESE BIDS, SO IT COULDN'T TAKE ON MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD ALREADY HAD.

SO, AND I WILL, SORRY, JUST TO ADD, THERE'S A LOT OF FURNITURE THERE AND THAT IS, UH, THERE ONE THING THAT THEY HAVE MENTIONED.

SO IF YOU KNOW ANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE NEED FOR FURNITURE AND LIKE CUPS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST HOUSEWARE STUFF, UH, IT'S SITTING THERE.

UH, BUT THE LAST DONATION WAS FOR HYGIENE KITS THAT WE WILL BE USING FOR A HYGIENE EVENT ON SATURDAY.

SO, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TRUSTING MY ORGANIZATION TO THE PACKAGE TOGETHER FOR YOU.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

WE HAVE OVER 15 VOLUNTEERS THAT ACTUALLY EXCITED TO COME.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU STAFF UPDATE.

SORRY, DID WE? NO WE DIDN'T.

OH YEAH, WE DIDN'T.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

NO, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

NO.

THE PROCLAMATION DID THERE.

DID I DO THE MOTION? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE HOMELESS PROCLAMATION SECONDING? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING AND FILING THE HOMELESS PROCLAMATION OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

I'M SO SORRY.

UM, NEXT CALL IS THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU STAFF.

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ALL RIGHT, .

UM, SO NO MAJOR CHANGES AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS FAR AS ENGAGEMENT, UH, AROUND OUTREACH AS WELL AS PEOPLE COMING INTO THE MSC.

UH, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO HIGHLIGHT IS JUST AMOUNT OF PHONE CALLS.

UH, NOW THAT WE HAVE BOTH, UH, PHONE LINE, UH, COUNSELORS HIRED AND ANSWERING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE, THEY HAD 1091 PHONE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM LAST MONTH.

SO THAT PHONE IS ALWAYS GOING.

UM, WE DO RECEIVE A LOT OF CALLS AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON DOING ALSO FOLLOW UPS WITH PEOPLE AND, UM, REALLY HAVING IT BE A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST VERSUS JUST INFORMATION, UH, REALLY HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S BEEN GOING WELL.

UM, ONE OF THE FEW THAT I HADN'T GOTTEN UPDATES ON, BUT, UH, CONTINUE TO SEE PRETTY CONSISTENT, UH, UTILIZATION WITHIN OUR SHELTER SITES.

UM, AT THE MOMENT WE ARE PAUSING ON ANY NEW INTAKES INTO THE, UH, PROJECT HOME KEY SITE AT 1725.

THE PREVIOUS, UH, BEST WESTERN HOTEL.

I'LL GO OVER THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS TO WHY WE'VE PAUSED ON THAT, UM, AT THE MOMENT.

AND AN UPCOMING SLIDE, UH, STAFFING UPDATES.

UH, HOLLY NUNEZ STARTED WITH US, UH, THE TOWARDS THE END OF LAST MONTH.

SHE IS AN ADMIN ANALYST THREE AND WILL BE OVERSEEING OUR MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE WORK.

AND THEN NANCY TO WHO IS PREVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR OUTREACH WORKERS, UH, HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO A COMMUNITY PROGRAM SPECIALIST TEAM AND WILL BE OUR HOMELESS COURT COORDINATOR.

SO SHE'LL BE PROVIDING COORDINATION FOLLOW UP AND ONGOING CASE MANAGEMENT FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ENROLLED INTO HOMELESS COURT.

SO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO KIND OF BUILD OUT, UH, SOME OF OUR RESPONSE AND EFFORTS AROUND, UH, SUPPORTING PEOPLE THAT HAVE INJUSTICE INVOLVED AS WELL AS OUR REENTRY POPULATION.

SO THERE IS SOME OTHER STUFF THAT IS IN THE WORKS TO TRY TO, UH, BROADEN THAT AND BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES HERE IN THE CITY AROUND, UH, OUR REENTRY AND JUSTICE WORK.

THESE ARE THE NAMES OF OUR REASSIGNMENT STAFF FROM THE COMMUNICABLE DISEASE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH THERE.

THEY'RE DOING A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE HAVE, UH, ONE SUPPORTING AT THE FRONT DESK FOR THE MSC, UH, A COUPLE, UH, SUPPORTING OUR WORK AT THE MSC AND OUTREACH.

AND THEN, UH, SOMEBODY FILLING IN WITH THE MOBILE ACCESS CENTER.

AND THEN WE'VE HAD THEM ALSO SUPPORTING WITH APPLICATIONS FOR HOUSING THROUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OUR PROJECT BASED SITES.

AND THEN ONCE OUR ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION PROGRAM IS UP, THERE WILL BE TWO SUPPORTING THAT PROGRAM AS WELL.

UM, SO WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE IN RECRUITMENT.

UM, REALLY WE'VE BEEN JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH INTERVIEWS.

THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT IN BACKGROUND AND A FEW THAT WILL, UH, START INTERVIEW SHORTLY.

THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY UP AND IN RECRUITMENT IS THE REACH MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN POSITION.

UH, BUT WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF ADDITIONAL ONES THAT SHOULD BE, UH, POSTING SHORTLY, INCLUDING OUR HOMELESS SERVICES PROGRAM OFFICER POSITIONS.

SO THOSE SHOULD BE POSTING SHORTLY AS WELL, WHICH I'M EXCITED, UH, FOR SOME HELP WITHIN THAT ROLE.

SO, UM, CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRYING TO GET STUFF HIRED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

ONE THING THAT WAS COVERED AT LAST NIGHT'S STATE OF THE CITY IS A REVAMP OF THE CITY HIRING PROCESS.

UM, SO, UH, THAT SHOULD HELP ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING TO REVITAL, UH, AT THE POTENTIAL OF REDOING THE CITY CHARTER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT EXIST WITHIN OUR HR PROCESSES AROUND HIRING TO EXPEDITE, UH, AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED AND WORK WORKING FOR THE CITY.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT THE EASIEST PROCESS.

UM, UH, WE DID BEGIN OPERATIONS OF OUR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, UH, IN DECEMBER.

WE HAD FIVE NIGHTS THAT WE OPENED.

WE'VE BEEN OPEN, I THINK OVER A WEEK NOW.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, SATURDAY MORNING.

SO, UM, IT HAS BEEN BELOW 45

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PRETTY CONSISTENTLY OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO.

IT'S BEEN REALLY COLD.

SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN OPENING UP SINCE IT'S BEEN IN THE LOW FORTIES.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, BUT THEN IT'S GONNA DROP RIGHT BACK DOWN TO LOW FORTIES AGAIN.

SO WE'LL BE OPEN UNTIL SATURDAY MORNING.

UH, WE DID HOST OUR SECOND PET VACCINE DAY AT THE MSC.

WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH A QUARTERLY, UH, CADENCE WITH US.

SO, UH, THE, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH IS PROJECT STREET VET.

THEY'VE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN GETTING SOMETHING CONSISTENT.

THEY'RE OUT OF, UH, SAN DIEGO.

SO THEY'VE BEEN ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR A VETERINARIAN HERE LOCALLY TO TRY TO TAKE ON THEIR REGULAR EVENT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN TRAVELING UP FROM SAN DIEGO TO SUPPORT THESE EVENTS.

UM, BUT TRY AND GET THAT ON QUARTERLY.

THAT WAY PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, PETS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE STREET OR WITHIN OUR SHELTERS, HAVE SOMEWHERE THAT THEY CAN GO TO GET THEIR, UH, CARE FOR THEIR PET.

UH, OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

UH, ACTUALLY MONDAY, UH, THE LEADERSHIP LONG BEACH, UH, COHORT HAS, UH, SELECTED THE MSC AS ONE OF THEIR PROJECT SITES.

SO WE'LL BE DOING A COMMUNITY GARDEN AT THE, UH, MSC.

THERE ARE OVER 50 VOLUNTEERS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE SIGNED UP.

SO IT'S A VERY POPULAR, UH, OPTION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY.

UM, SO WE'LL BE, WE'VE ALREADY RIPPED OUT SOME OF THE GRASS.

WE'LL BE REDOING, UH, PUTTING IN SOME PLANTS, PUTTING IN SOME COOL INTERACTIVE GARDEN FEATURES, UH, AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO, WHEN THEY'RE IN THE OUTDOOR SPACE, UH, HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERACT WITH THE SPACE, UH, AS WELL AS TO GROW, YOU KNOW, FRUIT AND PRODUCE THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTAKE OF.

SO WE ARE EXCITED.

IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE AND WE'VE JUST TAKEN A, A MINUTE TO GET THERE, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE 50 OR SO PEOPLE ON MONDAY, UH, SINCE PEOPLE GOT THE DAY OFF, COMING OVER TO THEM SC AND HELPING OUT.

SO IF YOU GOT TIME MONDAY, UH, THEY'LL BE THERE IN THE AM.

YOU JUST WANT TO STOP BY, UM, AND WHEN THEY'LL BE, AND THEY'LL BE PUTTING PEOPLE TO WORK.

UM, SO TALKED ABOUT THE PHONE LINE THAT'S BEEN GOING WELL.

UH, IT HAS ALLOWED US TO DO THE FOLLOW UP CARE, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT OVER TO THE MSC OR THE MOBILE ACCESS CENTER, UM, WE ARE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS GONNA BE STARTING TO KIND OF SPREAD OUT OUR HOURS THAT WAY.

WE HAVE EXPANDED HOURS FOR THE PHONE LINE, AS WELL AS WORKING TO ADD A WEEKEND DAY WHERE, UH, PHONES ARE BEING ANSWERED AS WELL.

SO IT'S TRYING TO EXPAND OUR ENGAGEMENT, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T COME IN DURING THE TYPICAL BUSINESS HOURS.

UM, SO SPOKE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ON THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION, STILL WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

UH, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING UPDATES ON A COUPLE OF PROJECT BASED SITES.

SO, UH, 26.2, WHICH IS OVER NEAR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

UM, IT IS OFF THE DEVELOPER IS ACCELERATE, BUT THE SERVICE PROVIDER IS, UH, HARBOR INTERFAITH.

THAT IS THE ONE ON THE LOWER RIGHT, UH, IS NEARLY LEASED UP.

SO THERE ARE OVER, I THINK, 60 PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOW MOVED INTO THAT BUILDING.

SO ALL PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.

UM, THERE ARE TWO OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE LEASE UP PROCESS.

SO, UH, WELLSPRING THAT IS OVER NEARBY ARTHUR PARK.

ALL UNITS ARE MATCHED FOR THAT, THAT WERE, UH, OLDER ADULT HOMELESS SETASIDE UNITS.

MHA WILL BE, UH, THE SERVICE PROVIDER THERE.

AND HERITAGE GARDENS, UH, IS ALSO BEING MATCHED UP.

THOSE ARE VETERAN SPECIFIC UNITS.

AND WE ARE STARTING THE MATCH PROCESS FOR THE COVE, WHICH IS A NEW, UM, PROJECT BY CENTURY HOUSING.

SO THAT'LL BE BETTER AND SPECIFIC AS WELL.

UH, SO EXCITING TO SEE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS COMING ON AND STILL WORKING TO MATCH, UH, TO VOUCHERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, THAT ARE BEING MATCHED TO OUTSIDE CASE MANAGEMENT.

WELL, UM, WE ARE CONTINUING OUR PROCESS ON THE STATE HALF ROUND FIVE APPLICATION.

WE HAVE HEARD THAT ALLOCATION SHOULD COME OUT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.

UM, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SET UP THAN PREVIOUS ROUNDS.

SO WE ARE APPLYING, UH, AS A LOS ANGELES COUNTY GROUP THAT INCLUDES THE COUNTY, UH, GLENDALE, PASADENA,

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HALASA, THE CITY OF LA ALONG WITH US.

UM, SO WE GOTTA CREATE A SINGULAR PLAN AND APPLICATION.

UH, WE CAN REQUEST SEPARATE, UH, ALLOCATIONS SO, AND CONTRACT.

SO THAT PART WILL REMAIN THE SAME, BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE WORKING AS A REGION.

UH, SO IT'S BEEN GOING WELL SO FAR.

UH, PART OF IT IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE, UH, A COMMUNITY INPUT STRUCTURE TO THAT OVERALL PLAN.

THE GROUP WITH ALL THE ENTITIES HAS AGREED THAT THE FRAMEWORK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BECAUSE THERE'S AN ANNUAL INPUT PLAN, IS THE MEASURE AGE, INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITY PLAN THAT IS THERE.

SO, UH, WE'LL BE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS BRINGING THAT TO, UH, EACH OF OUR INDIVIDUAL, UH, GOVERNANCE BODIES.

SO WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD A OVERVIEW OF THE MEASURE H PLAN, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT IF THERE ARE ANY MAJOR CONCERNS.

UM, BUT BECAUSE IT IS A DEVELOPED INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE COMPLEXITY AND THE TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GO CREATE A NEW PLAN ACROSS THE COUNTY, IT JUST DID NOT FEEL FEASIBLE.

UM, SO WE'RE UTILIZING THAT.

WE HAVE BEGUN OUR INITIAL PLANNING, AGAIN AROUND THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION ROUND THREE, UH, ALONG WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, CONSTRUCTION IS BEGINNING ON THE NEW, NEW NAVIGATION CENTER ALONG WITH THE, UH, PERSONAL STORAGE SO PEOPLE CAN VOLUNTARILY STORE, UH, ITEMS AT THIS LOCATION AS WELL.

SO THERE WILL BE 80 STORAGE BINS AT THAT LOCATION ALONG WITH THE YOUTH BED.

SO THOSE 12 YOUTH BEDS, UH, THE RFP PANEL IS RECOMMENDING APRIL PARKER FOUNDATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THAT'LL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH FOR THEIR APPROVAL AS WELL.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THE PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED LATER THIS CALENDAR YEAR, AND WE'LL START TO HAVE YOUTH BEING, UH, AT THAT NAVIGATION CENTER.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE IN THE MAKING, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT COME, UH, TO FRUITION.

AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, UH, I THINK SOME PEOPLE HAVE PROBABLY HEARD, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN AND RIGHTFULLY SO, UH, AROUND THE BEST WESTERN SITE AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY OCCURRING AND WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR GOING FORWARD.

SO, UM, ON DECEMBER 5TH, WE HAD RELEASED THE RFP TO RECURE, THE BEST WESTERN SITE.

ON THAT SAME DAY, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY ILLUMINATION FOUNDATION THAT THEY DO NOT INTEND TO APPLY FOR RENEWAL, UM, AND THAT THEY WOULD BE SUNSETTING AT THE END OF THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT, WHICH ENDS ON FEBRUARY 18TH.

SO THEIR STAFF HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THAT.

THEY, UH, WILL NOT BE EXTENDING BEYOND FEBRUARY 18TH.

UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS.

WE'RE STILL HAVING WEEKLY CHECK-INS WITH THEM AROUND CARE COORDINATION AND PLANNING.

UH, AS WE GO THROUGH OUR TRANSITION, UM, THERE IS NO WAY WITH THE RFP AND ALL THE PROCESSES AND THE STARTUP FOR AN AGENCY THAT AN AGENCY, ANOTHER NONPROFIT IS GOING TO BE READY BY FEBRUARY 18TH.

THIS IS NOT, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

SO, UM, WE HAVE BEGUN THE PLANNING PROCESS TO, UH, BASICALLY BRING IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID DURING PROJECT ROOMKEY, UH, TO STABILIZE AND THE INTERIM INTO A NEW PROVIDER IS ON BOARD.

SO THE RFP DOES CLOSE TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MONTH.

WE WILL MOVE OUR PROCESSES QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO CONVENE THE PANEL, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, GET THAT TO CITY COUNCIL, GET A CONTRACT IN PLACE SO THAT THEY CAN START HIRING AND HOPEFULLY GET INTO PLACE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

BUT WE ARE PLANNING FOR TWO AND A HALF TO THREE AND A HALF MONTHS THAT WE WILL HAVE INTERIM SERVICES THERE.

WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, UH, SO WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITHIN THIS.

UH, SO WE ARE MEETING WITH A, WE WERE WORKING TO GET OUR TEMP AGENCY FINALIZED.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, UH, SECURITY, UH, CLEANING COMPANY, UH, WORKING TO GET STAFFING SUPPORT IN PLACE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TEAM THAT WILL BE ON SITE, UH, AND ENSURING THAT CARE, UH, CONTINUES AND THAT THERE IS SOME CONTINUITY.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED

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IN MAINTAINING AND CONTINUE TO WORK THERE, THAT THEY'RE LINKED TO THE TEMP AGENCY AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY CAN BE HIRED, UH, BY WHICHEVER NEW PROVIDER IS SELECTED FOR THE SITE.

SO TRYING TO KEEP CONTINUITY OF CARE THERE.

UM, SO THAT IS CURRENTLY WHERE WE'RE AT.

UH, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING AND A LOT THAT'S GONNA NEED TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE WHAT'S NEEDED IN PLACE TO, UH, BE READY TO GO ON FEBRUARY 18TH, UH, WITH OUR IN BETWEEN PLAN AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE THERE.

CHANGE IS DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH NO MATTER WHAT.

UH, THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF ANXIETY AS TO WHAT THAT MEANS FOR PARTICIPANTS.

UM, WE ARE STILL DOING MENTAL HEALTH AFTER HOURS, SO WE'RE REALLY PRIORITIZING FOR ANYBODY AT THAT SITE THAT IS INTERESTED IN DOING MENTAL HEALTH AFTER HOURS.

UH, AS WELL AS WE HAVE A, UH, PERSON THAT IS WORKING ON THEIR LICENSURE HOURS RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE, UH, AROUND FIVE HOURS A WEEK TO BE OVER AT THE SITE TO SUPPORT AS WELL FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MEET AROUND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS.

AND THEN, UH, PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL NURSING SUPPORT FROM OUR EXISTING TEAM ON SITE AS WELL AS WE'VE BEEN, UH, IN CONVERSATION WITH HEALTHCARE AND ACTION, WHO HAS BEEN GOING OVER TO THE SITE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MEDICAL CARE TO PEOPLE ON SITE AS WELL.

UH, SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT SHOULD HELP US WITH OUR OVERALL HEALTH AND MEDICAL NEEDS AT THAT SITE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE THERE.

UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF OLDER ADULTS, PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS SUCH AS CANCER, KIDNEY FAILURE, UH, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IN THE IN BETWEEN, UM, WE'RE SUPPORTING PEOPLE.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN QUESTIONS OF WHY, UH, WHAT LED THEM TO NOT, UH, CHOOSING TO APPLY AND EXTEND.

SO PART OF IT IS THAT CONVERSATION ON BED RATE.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE PAYING $60 PER NIGHT.

THERE, UM, THERE IS NEED TO INCREASE.

THE RFP DOES ALLOW FOR, UH, SOME INCREASE WITHIN THE OVERALL BUDGET, UH, AND BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

THAT BEING SAID, IT IS NOT AT THE RATE OF A RECUPERATIVE CARE TYPE PROGRAM.

THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE WANTING TO FOCUS GOING FORWARD IS MORE ON RECUPERATIVE CARE TYPE PROGRAMMING.

SO, UM, THEY HAVE CHOSEN THAT THIS IS NOT WITHIN, UH, THEIR PARTY AS FAR AS A MODEL, UH, WITHIN THEIR AGENCY.

THEY DID, THEY HAVE A NEW CEO WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, UH, AS WELL AS JUST KIND OF RESHIFTING SOME OF THEIR PRIORITIES.

SO, UH, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

WE ARE STILL WORKING CLOSELY ON THE TRANSITION, ENSURING THAT BOTH PROVIDING AS MUCH SUPPORT, UH, COMING UP TO FEBRUARY POSSIBLE.

AND THEY STILL DO HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS WITH US THAT THEY WILL BE MAINTAINING, CONTINUING TO OPERATE ON THE PERMANENT IT.

THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, ON THE ENCOUNTER RESOLUTION ROUND THREE, IS THERE ROOM BUDGETS OR LIKE FOOD, WATER? THE SECOND ROUND WE DID BUILD IN, UM, MEALS WITHIN OUR SHELTERING PLAN, AND THAT'S A LITTLE MORE ROBUST THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE FIRST ONE.

SO LOOKING AT JUST THE OVERALL NEED, WE DID BUILD IN, UH, QUITE A BIT MORE INTO THAT.

SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK IN AT THREE AS WELL, IS BEYOND JUST LIKE THE SHELTER SPACE, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER DIRECTION, WHETHER IT BE SAFE RELEASING SOMEWHERE THAT LIKE THERE IS, UM, THERE IS THE RESOURCES AS FAR AS FOOD AND THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, THIS PROBABLY WAS BROUGHT YESTERDAY TOO, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, JUST THE GAP OF INCREASED OLDER ADULTS YESTERDAY.

THERE WAS LIKE A NOTICE OF A GAP OF, UM, THE LACK OF LIKE FAMILIES OKAY.

SHELTERING HOUSES, UM, GOING FORWARD.

WILL WE SOME THOSE GAPS? YEAH, IT'S ONE THING THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO IN ONE OF

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OUR EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION UPDATES.

THAT IS, WE HAVE SEEN INCREASES IN FAMILIES, UH, THAT ARE, UM, SEEKING SERVICES, THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

THAT HAS GONE UP PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE SIMILAR, SIMILAR TIMEFRAME AS THE EVICTION PROTECTIONS AND MORATORIUMS. AND THE FUNDING KIND OF, UH, CAME TOWARDS AN END.

WE HAVE SEEN, UH, THOSE TWO POPULATIONS MOST SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE.

THEY'VE BEEN SEEING TWO TO THREE TIMES WHAT THEY WERE AND WE WERE SEEING PREVIOUSLY AS FAR AS, UH, THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES SEEKING SERVICES.

SO THERE IS SOME CONVERSATION CURRENTLY WITH DSS, EARLY CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY GET DIRECT ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING.

HISTORICALLY IT'S GONE THROUGH LAW AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE SERVICE PLANNING AREA, UM, LEADS.

SO THERE IS A CONVERSATION THAT, UH, EARLY ON AROUND WHAT WOULD IT NEED TO BE IN PLACE FOR US TO RECEIVE, UH, DIRECT FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SCREENING AS WELL AS, UH, REALLY HOPEFULLY BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR FAMILIES.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY FUNDING AND RESOURCES THAT ARE, UH, DEDICATED HERE LOCALLY WITHIN LONG BEACH.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALSO IS ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE, I THINK COMPLAINT SLASH GRIEVANCES THAT WE RECEIVE IS THE FRUSTRATION OF HOW LONG IT CAN TAKE AS A FAMILY TO EVEN GET THAT INITIAL SCREENING.

SO, UH, FOR A SINGLE ADULT YOU COME INTO THE MSE MOST DAYS.

I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVEN'T REALLY TURNED PEOPLE AWAY IN A WHILE, SO WE'VE INCREASED OUR CAPACITY.

SO LIKE I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY YOU'RE GONNA GET SEEN THE SAME DAY UNLESS YOU GO AT LIKE THREE.

UM, BUT IF YOU'RE A FAMILY CAN TAKE TWO TO THREE WEEKS BEFORE YOU GET THAT INITIAL INTAKE APPOINTMENT.

SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE ARE PRETTY CONSISTENTLY HEARING FRUSTRATIONS FROM PEOPLE COMING IN REGARDING.

SO TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, AT LEAST ON THE FRONT SIDE, MAKE IT LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR, OUR STANDARDS ARE FOR A SINGLE ADULT COMING IN, UH, SEEKING SERVICES.

SO WE HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDING THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR, UH, ACCESS RESOURCES TO ALSO PUT TOWARDS, UH, CREATING AT LEAST THE FRONT SIDE OF IT, UH, IF GPS IS WILLING, UH, TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH US.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING WITH THE COUNTY CEO'S OFFICE, UH, AROUND OTHER COUNTY FUNDING.

AND THEN, UH, TRYING TO BRING IN WHAT WE CAN AROUND SHELTERING AND OTHER PERMANENT HOUSING RESOURCES AS WELL TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

SO OUR FAMILIES ABLE TO, IF THEY WENT ACROSS THE BRIDGE, YEAH, THEY TELL, GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE, THEY WILL, THEY DO INITIAL SCREENING AND IF THE FAMILY SAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, MY KIDS ARE ENROLLED IN LONG BEACH, I'VE BEEN LIMITING IN LONG BEACH, THEY WILL WORK TO REFER THEM OVER TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES, WHO IS THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR TO COVER LONG BEACH.

SO WE'RE JUST WANTING TO CREATE A CONSISTENT SYSTEM AS FAR AS THAT INITIAL ENGAGEMENT, GETTING PEOPLE SCREENED AND WORKING TOWARDS THE CLIENT.

THAT'S REALLY LOUD.

YEAH.

YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UM, HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED INTO THE YOUTH AS FAR AS YOUNGER ADULTS? BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNGER ADULTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY, I MEAN, OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS, MYSELF PERSONALLY, WHEN I COME UP HERE, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG ADULTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY EITHER ON DRUGS OR THEY'RE ACTUALLY CAMPING OUT IN DIFFERENT PARK AREAS.

WHILE THE CITY LONG BEACH, WE'VE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN ST TOO, BUT IT'S MORE YOUNG ADULTS.

YEAH, IT'S YOUNG ADULTS, BUT IT, IT, THEY'RE PRETTY, YES, THEY'RE EITHER ON BIKES, SKATEBOARDS, THOSE SCOOTERS, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN REALLY TELL THEY HAVE THE BACKPACKS, THEY HAVE ALL THE BELONGINGS, YOU KNOW, AND THERE ARE EVEN SOME PUSHING CARTS.

SO I MEAN, IS THERE ANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE YOUTH THAT ARE FACING HOMELESSNESS? YEAH, RIGHT NOW MOST OF THE RESOURCES FOR YOUTH ARE THROUGH

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THE TWO COLLEGES.

SO BOTH LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE AND C-S-U-L-D OPERATES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SHELTER PROGRAMS AS WELL AS HOUSING ASSISTANCE, AS WELL AS SOME BASIC NEEDS, UH, SUPPORTS.

UM, THE YOUTH NAVIGATION CENTER WILL BE OUR FIRST YOUTH FOCUS PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY.

UH, PART OF THE STATE OF THE CITY FROM THE MAYOR YESTERDAY WAS, UH, REALLY TRYING TO LEAN INTO THIS AS AN AREA AND WITH THE GOAL OF ENDING YOUTH HOMELESSNESS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THERE IS A DESIRE TO INCREASE OUR RESOURCES AND PROGRAMMING.

SO THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION THAT, THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND THAT.

UH, AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING PEOPLE AND GETTING A BETTER, MORE ACCURATE COUNT OF HOW MANY YOUTH ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

UM, WE STARTED LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

SO, UH, WE ARE PAYING, UH, FIVE YOUTH TO SUPPORT US DURING THE HOMELESS COUNT AND REALLY TO THE KIND OF THE EXPERTISE IN THAT.

SO, UH, WORKING WITH YOUTH THAT HAVE RECENTLY EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS THEMSELVES.

UM, SO SORRY AND PROVIDING, UH, A STIPEND FOR THEM TO SUPPORT US DURING THE ACCOUNT AND REALLY IDENTIFYING AREAS THAT THEY KNOW OF WHERE THERE ARE YOUTH GOING OUT AND ENGAGING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUTH HOMELESSNESS LOOKS LIKE HERE, HERE IN THE CITY.

AND DOES THE, DOES ANY OF THE SHELTERS OFFER MENTAL HEALTH FOR DRUG ADDICTION SERVICES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S PROVIDED OR AVAILABLE TOWARDS THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING INTO SHELTER LOT HEALTH ISSUES? THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER DRUG ADDICTION OR EVEN FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT.

IS THERE ANY TYPE OF RESOURCE OR, OR SOURCES AVAILABLE TO ASSIST THEM WITH, UM, DIRECTING THEM TO LIKE FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET, UM, DETOX OR THEY'RE ABLE TO GET HELP FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES? ARE VARIOUS SERVICES THE SHELTER? YEAH.

NOT IN A REALLY MEANINGFUL WAY.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE BED RATE HAS REALLY LACKLUSTER.

THERE ARE SOME SUBSTANCE USE FOCUSED BEDS.

UM, THERE IS A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, UH, AROUND COMMUNITY HOSPITAL AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE AND REENVISIONING THAT AS A WELLNESS CAMPUS.

UM, AND REALLY LOOKING AT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUPPORT, SUBSTANCE USE RELATED SUPPORTS, AS WELL AS PHYSICAL HEALTH SUPPORTS.

SO THERE IS SOME CONVERSATIONS AND PROMISING THINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO, UH, ATTEND OR JOIN THAT MEETING, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND HEAR WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

I'M LOOKING AT, UM, I'M SURE THERE ARE GONNA BE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, SO IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME VOICES OF PEOPLE.

WHEN IS THAT GONNA BE TOMORROW? TOMORROW EVENING.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A FLYER.

YEAH, CHRISTINA DUG ONE.

SO I'D ENCOURAGE SOME SUPPORTIVE VOICES.

MIGHT BE ON THE THIRD DISTRICT.

OKAY.

UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SERVICES STAFF REPORT PLEASE.

UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

UH, DESIRE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO, JULIE AND I MET ON MONDAY, JANUARY 9TH.

SO, UM, MONDAY MEETING AND I ATTENDED THE STATE OF THE CITY, UM, ON YESTERDAY, UM, AS REPRESENTATIVE.

LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION, UM, LOTS OF PROMISE AND WAS VERY PROUD TO HEAR PAUL'S NAME MENTIONED.

I BE GETTING HIS AUTOGRAPH AT THE END.

.

OKAY.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, YEAH, I THINK EVERYTHING WENT WELL LAST NIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WAS THERE, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I HAPPEN TO RUN INTO OUR NEW POLICE OVERSIGHT DIRECTOR BECAUSE I WAS AT ST.

LUKE'S TODAY AND SHE WAS OVER THERE, UH, WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM.

SO I DID INTRODUCE MYSELF TO FRANCINE AND, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER HERE TOO, SO I FOLLOW UP AND SEE WHEN SHE'LL BE READY TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT SHE SEEMS, UM, LIKE A REALLY GOOD PERSON.

, UM, UH, OKAY.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS

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CASE BACK ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. SPEAKER LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES.

UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT? IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE GONNA BE ASKED, WE WOULDN'T DO IT IN THIS FORUM.

UM, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, GREAT.

UM, THEN WE ADJOURNED AND WE'LL SEE.