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UM, WE'RE GONNA GO ON TO THE, UH, REGULAR AGENDA.
WE HAVE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MOTION, EXCUSE ME, BUREAU, UH, ADMINISTRATION EMPLOYEE RECOMMENDATION.
DO I HAVE A I'LL MOVE FOR THAT.
SUPER, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS CREW.
UH, THIS IS THE GROUP THAT IS BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT THEY DO EVERYTHING BASICALLY, UH, TO DO WHAT THEY DO, YOU HAVE TO BE GREAT WITH PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE TO BE DETAIL ORIENTED, YOU HAVE TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT A LOT.
UH, SO THEY, THE WORK THEY DO IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN THE SUCCESS OF WHAT WE DO.
UH, IT INCLUDES OUR, OUR, OUR ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR CLERICAL SUPPORT STAFF.
WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ADMIN ANALYST, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ACCOUNTING CLERK, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ADMIN AIDE PEOPLE.
AND THESE ARE THE JOBS THAT THEY MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO DO THEIR JOBS.
SO IF THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY DID EVERY SINGLE DAY, COREY, KELLY, MYSELF, OUR STAFF, WE COULD NOT DO WHAT WE DO.
SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, KELLY, IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR STAFF, WE'D LIKE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE OUR ADMIN SUPPORT STAFF.
UH, LIKE TODD SAID, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, ADMIN STAFF ARE, ARE REALLY, UM, THE CORE OF OUR OPERATION AND REALLY KEEP THINGS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY, I, I WORK WITH, UH, STACY FREEMAN, UH, AT THE BEACH MAINTENANCE YARD.
AND AS A ACTING, UH, INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, UH, STACY HAS REALLY HELPED ME BECOME MORE INFORMATIVE ON, UH, THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF MY RESPONSIBILITIES AND REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPS THAT OPERATION MOVING.
UM, A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES WORK THAT I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE OPERATION.
UM, SO VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER AS PART OF MY TEAM AND, UH, AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE ADMINISTRATION STAFF.
SO, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
I PUT THIS ON TAPE AND WHEN YOU COME UP FOR YOUR REVIEW, JUST
UH, BUT A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS.
UH, OUR ADMIN SUPPORT STAFF IS LED BY TIM.
SHE IS THE BEATING HEART OF OUR BUREAU, AND SHE KIND OF SETS, SETS THE TONE FOR WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.
SO WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE TAMLIN AND ALL HER EFFORTS OF HOW SHE, SHE LEADS AND GUIDES EVERYTHING WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
UH, I ALSO WANT TO GO INTO A QUICK COMMENT FOR EACH OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SO IMPORTANT TO OUR OPERATION.
PORTIA CAME IN, AND I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT SHE CAME IN AND SHE CLOSED OUT OUR FY 23 BUDGET.
I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
THAT'S VERY, I'M AN ANALYST AT END OF THE YEAR.
AND PORTIA CAME IN AND SHE'S LIKE, I GOT THIS
UH, SHE IS THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT TEACHES YOU, AS SHE TELLS YOU.
SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD TO HAVE A PERSON LIKE THAT OVERSEEING OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG, IT'S A LOT.
AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WILL REALLY TEACH YOU, HEY, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IT'S, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY PLEASED AND SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE PORSCHE WITH US.
AND THEN LIZETTE LIZETTE WE GOT FROM, UH, FLEET SERVICES ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.
SAME ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN LUCKY.
WE'VE KIND OF HIT JACKPOT WITH OUR PEOPLE THAT WE BROUGHT IN.
UH, LIZETTE IS BASICALLY, SHE HAS THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, FOUND AN ISSUE AND SHE'S SOLVING IT WHERE, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE A SMALL ISSUE.
IT'S ABOUT $5 MILLION WHERE WE NEED OUR MONEY.
AND SHE'S FINDING IT, SHE'S GETTING IT TAKEN CARE OF.
AND IT'S AMAZING TO HAVE HER, BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE MACRO.
SHE DOES THOSE THINGS ON THE MICRO.
SO REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATIVE
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OF HER.AND THEN STACY, SHE WORKS OVER IN BEACH MAINTENANCE, WHERE YOU GOTTA BE, YOU GOTTA BE SPECIAL, YOU GOTTA BE SOMEONE THAT CAN DEAL WITH THAT CREW, YOU KNOW? AND, AND SHE CAME IN AND SHE HAD BIG SHOES TO FILL WHEN SHE CAME IN.
UH, THE PRIOR CLERICAL THERE WAS KEISHA.
AND, UH, SHE WAS, SHE WAS WELL LIKED AND BELOVED THERE.
AND YOU SEE ALL THE SAME TRAITS IN STACEY.
AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HER AND HER INTELLIGENCE AND HER DEMEANOR.
SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HER AT BEACH MASON.
AND THEN FINALLY, MARIE, THIS ONE IS CRAZY.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE WHEN I LOOKED OVER, I'M LIKE, I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE FACT THAT, UM, WHEN I WAS AT LEEWAY SAILING CENTER AT THE START OF MY CAREER, MARIE WAS A CAMPER.
WHEN YOU, WHEN I LOOK OVER, I JUST CREEPY.
I JUST SEE
SHE, AND THEN SHE CAME UP THROUGH OUR CAMPS PROGRAM AND BECAME ONE OF OUR TOP AND BEST AQUATIC CAMP, UH, COUNSELORS AND CAMP DIRECTORS.
UH, DURING COVID, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING HER OVER INTO A PART-TIME, CLERICAL POSITION.
AND SHE REALLY JUST, SHE INGRAINED HERSELF AND SHE MADE HERSELF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR TOP PEOPLE.
AND THEN SHE GOT THE FULL-TIME POSITION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY COOL FOR ME TO LOOK OVER AND SEE MARIE THERE JUST BEING SO SUCCESSFUL AT THIS ROLE BECAUSE I GO BACK, I'M LIKE, WOW, YOU JUST SEE.
AND IT'S LIKE, I MADE THAT POSSIBLE
BUT AGAIN, SO EXCITED TO, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THIS GROUP TODAY AND BRING THEM IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET TO SEE THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE IN OFFICES AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THEY'RE SUCH A GREAT PART OF OUR TEAM.
WELL, I, I GOTTA SAY SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IT IS, I'VE BEEN IN MY COMPANY FOR 45 YEARS, UM, AND THEY ALWAYS STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAY IT IN CHINESE CHERU B AT A GREAT GENERALS.
I GOT TO DO THAT AND SAY THAT IN FRONT OF GENTLEMEN.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVEN RIGHT.
BUT TO SEE THE LOVE THAT HE HAS FOR HIS PEOPLE, UM, THAT'S THE EXCITEMENT.
AND I'VE SEEN PAST PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED FOR THE CITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHEN YOUR BOSS IS EXCITED ABOUT YOU, I KNOW HOW HARD YOU ALL WORK BECAUSE BOSSES DON'T SHARE THOSE TYPE OF FEELINGS AND THAT, THAT TYPE OF HAPPINESS WITH THEIR PEOPLE IF IT'S NOT REAL.
UM, SO WHAT HE SAYS COMES FROM HERE.
IT REALLY IS AN HONOR TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD WITH THIS TEAM.
BUT TO SEE THAT YOU ARE ALL DEFINITELY THE WORKING PART OF WHAT MAKES EVERYTHING HAPPEN.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR MY GREAT CITY.
I HOPE THAT WOULDN'T TAKE, BECAUSE IF YOU PLAYED THAT BACK, IT COULD BE SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY BAD.
SPEAKING OF THAT, WE ARE RECORDED.
AND WE'RE JUST OPTING NOT TO UPLOAD.
IS ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSION? WE SAY? JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR, YOUR TIME, YOUR EFFORT, YOUR SERVICE, YOUR DEDICATION.
I'M RETIRED FROM THE CITY AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO WORK.
AND THE DO SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS, IS IS THE BEST HONOR THERE IS.
UM, SO FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR ME AS WELL, IT'S BEEN GREAT BEING PART OF THE MAC FOR AS MANY YEARS AS I HAVE AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, VISIT THE OFFICES.
UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THE NICEST OFFICES IN THE CITY.
UM, BEAUTIFUL VIEWS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO IN THE MARINE BUREAU, IT'S AMAZING THAT THERE'S JUST SO FEW EDMOND STAFF WHO GET ALL THAT STUFF DONE.
SO, SO WE'RE GONNA DO A PRESENTATION.
WE'LL CALL SOME, UM, NAMES TO HAND THESE.
THIS IS, WE WISH WE COULD DO MORE.
SO THE FIRST PERSON IS, UH, PORSCHE SMITH FOR A SECOND, MAKE SURE HE GETS YOUR PICTURE.
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I CAN'T LEAVE GUYS UP.CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THE DISCLOSURE WITH HER.
SHE'S STUCK THROUGH IT THE WHOLE WAY.
DO WE HAVE A CATCH SONG? DID WE GET A SONG?
YEAH, I I'M JUST GONNA GO TO SLEEP.
WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE US? JUST RIGHT HERE.
FRONT COMMISSIONERS ARE WANT BE IN THE PHOTO ROOM.
BE ROOM FOR ALL OR DO WE WANT GO UP FRONT? MAYBE DO TWO, MAYBE DO ONE WITH JUST THOSE GUYS.
WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE GO, YEAH.
AND THEN YOU GUYS GOT YOUR LITTLE, OKAY.
TAKE THE REST OF THE DAY OFF WITH ME.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE RECORD REFLECT IF SABRINA IS, IS HERE.
UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, OH, WE HAVE TO MOVE.
DO WE HAVE TO, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, JANUARY 11TH? I'LL MOVE FOR THAT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
THIS MEETINGS ARE APPROVED, MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
UM, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REAL ESTATE DIVISION.
OKAY, WE CAN, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START.
I'M GONNA STAND, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
A LITTLE BIT EASIER CONCENTRATE.
UM, THANK YOU CHAIR KELLY AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME, UH, TALK TO YOU TODAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT, UM, OUR, MY DIVISION IN THE, UM, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOES.
UM, SO, UM, JUST REAL QUICK, MY NAME IS MARY TORRES.
I, I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT 24 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY STARTED IN THE MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT PROGRAM.
UM, ACTUALLY DID A LITTLE STINT IN THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT FOR A SORT OF A, AN UNOFFICIAL FIFTH ROTATION.
UM, YEAH, WENT THROUGH, LEARNED A LOT FROM, UM, GAIL WASSEL AND SUZANNE MASON, AND THEN WENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
UM, IT ENDED UP IN PROPERTY SERVICES, WHICH WAS IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME.
AND I ACTUALLY HAVE NEVER LEFT.
I'VE STAYED THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.
UM, MAINLY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO.
AND, UM, THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH ACQUISITION, DISPOSITION, LEASING, THE STUFF THAT WE WORK ON IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT, IT'S JUST NO TRANSACTION IS THE SAME.
AND SO IT'S BEEN, UM, A, A JOY AND AN EXPERIENCE, UM, TO WORK FOR THE CITY FOR THAT LONG IN THIS GROUP.
AND, UM, BUT I THINK THE, THE IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND SEE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT INTO EFFECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON, UM, RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE SPACES THAT WE TRY TO ADD OR CREATE OR CHANGE
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HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, UM, A GREAT PROFESSIONAL CAREER IN THAT RESPECT.SO, SO JUST REALLY QUICK, UM, MY DIVISION IS, UH, REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE REAL ESTATE AGENT FOR THE CITY.
SO WE HANDLE ACQUISITION, DISPOSITION, LEASING, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED WHEN SOMEONE NEEDS HELP WITH SOMETHING AND IT'S, UM, IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO SEND THEM, IT USUALLY ENDS UP IN MY SHOP.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO WE HANDLE, UM, UH, BUYING AND SELLING PROPERTY, WHETHER WE'RE ADDING A PARK OR A FIRE STATION OR GETTING RID OF A HOSPITAL, UM, THAT IT ENDS UP IN MY SHOP.
BUT WE ALSO HANDLE LEASE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION.
THAT COULD BE BOTH FOR LEASING OUT CITY PROPERTY, CITY OWNED PROPERTY, OR IT COULD BE IF WE NEED, UM, PROPERTY FOR, TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE RECENTLY PURCHASED 1 25 ELM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR P UH, THE SENIOR CENTER.
IT'S FOR, UM, PD AND THEN UTILITIES THAT WE'LL USE THE FLOOR.
UM, WE ALSO DO AMENDMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS AND THEN PUBLIC INQUIRIES AND ASSISTANCE.
SO SOMETIMES, UM, WE'LL HAVE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, NOT CITY, CITY OWNED PROPERTY, BUT BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT OR NOW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE WORK WITH THEM SO OFTEN THAT WE KIND OF KNOW THE PROCESS, KNOW WHO TO TALK TO, AND, UM, CAN USUALLY JUST TRY TO INSIST AND UNHOOK WHATEVER THE ISSUE MIGHT BE.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE GET A LOT OF THAT AND WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT A PARTICULAR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUY IT OR LEASE IT NINE OUTTA 10 TIMES.
IT'S NOT OURS, BUT, UH, WE CAN AT LEAST POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND THEN, WHO DO WE SERVE? WE SERVE ALL THE CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT.
AIRPORT HAS THEIR OWN PROPERTIES DIVISION, SO THEY HANDLE THEIR OWN, UH, REAL ESTATE ITEMS AND, UM, THE PORT AND UTILITIES HANDLE THEIRS.
SO, UM, THAT'S THAT, UM, ACQUISITION AND DIS DISPOSITION.
I JUST WANTED TO GO A LITTLE BIT INTO EACH KIND OF THE AREA SO YOU UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL THE MINUTIA, BUT SOME OF IT, UM, WE DO HANDLE THE DUE DILIGENCE ACTIVITIES, AND THAT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, GETTING ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS.
IT'LL BE DOING FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENTS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TRYING TO BUY SOMETHING.
UH, WE WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE SOIL CONDITION, WHAT THE BUILDING CONDITION IS, UM, AND WHETHER IT'S, UH, WORTH THE PRICE THAT WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT.
AND WE HANDLE THAT NEGOTIATION.
UM, WE HANDLE, UM, RFP AND BROKER ACTIVITIES.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA LIST A PROPERTY, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF BROKERS THAT WE USE.
IF WE RFP IT, WE WORK WITH PURCHASING TO DO A, A CALL FOR A PROJECT.
AND USUALLY THE DIFFERENCE IS IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT THERE, AND WE HAVE A PARTICULAR SORT OF SCOPE, WE'LL, RFP IT, IF IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET RID OF PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S BECOME OBSOLETE AND WE JUST WANT IT OFF THE BOOKS AND BACK ONTO THE TAX ROLL, THEN WE'LL TYPICALLY GO THROUGH A LISTING.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT SOMETIMES WE DO IN RFP, WE GET NO RESPONSES.
WE DO A LISTING, WE'LL GET 20.
IT JUST, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE MARKET.
AND THEN, UM, WE RELOCATE, UM, IF WE PURCHASE A PROPERTY AND THERE ARE TENANTS, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, COMPLY WITH THE RELOCATION PROCESS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPENSATED ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA LAW AND HANDLE THAT PROCESS.
WE WILL ALSO HANDLE EMINENT DOMAIN ACTIVITIES IF WE NEED SOMETHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ESSENTIAL TO A PUBLIC SERVICE AND WE NEED TO CONDEMN A PROPERTY OUT, WE WILL.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ONE IN A WHILE, BUT, UM, IT DOES COME UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND JUST SOME SAMPLE PROJECTS.
UM, WE WERE IN CHARGE OF DISPOSING OF THE 259 REDEVELOPMENT PARCELS THAT, UH, WERE LEFT OVER AT DIS DISSOLUTION.
AND SO WE, UM, WE RECENTLY TOOK BACK ABOUT 20 OF 'EM FROM THE LAB IN NORTH, NORTH LONG BEACH.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA START THAT PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.
IT'S BEEN LIKE 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE, BUT THEY'RE BACK.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT.
UM, WE HANDLED THE DISPOSITION OF, UH, OCEAN AND PINE, WHICH IS THE HARD ROCK, UH, WILL BE THE HARD ROCK.
AND, UM, FORMER FIRE STATION NINE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, UM, PROJECTS WHERE WE R FPD, IT GOT NO RESPONSES, LISTED IT WITH A BROKER AND GOT 19, SO 19 OFFERS.
SO HE JUST NEVER REALLY CAN TELL.
UM, AND THEN COMMUNITY HOSPITAL WE HANDED THAT, HANDLED THAT ENTIRE TRANSACTION WHEN MEMORIAL HANDED IT BACK TO THE CITY.
AND, UM, AND THEN PROJECT HOME KEY, WE'VE, UH, WE WERE HANDLED, WE HANDLED THE HOTEL ACQUISITIONS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE ADMINISTER AND LEASE, UM, THE LEASING A CON AND CONTRACT PORTFOLIO OF OVER ABOUT 10 MILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE.
UM, SOME OF THE ONES THAT YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH ARE ALAMEDA BAY MARINA CENTER, THE LANDING.
UM, WE WORK WITH THE TENANTS, UM, WHETHER IT BE JUST CONTRACT COMPLIANCE, IF IT'S AN AMENDMENT WE NEED TO RENEW, WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF, UM, PRE-WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT.
OFTENTIMES IT'S, UM, GOING, UH, SO WITH THE LONG-TERM LIST IS WHAT I SHOULD SAY IS, UM, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE, UM,
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THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WERE DIFFERENT AND A LOT OF THINGS WERE, I DON'T WANNA SAY, UM, GIVEN AWAY, BUT THE RATES WERE LOWER.YOU KNOW, THINGS WERE, UH, KIND OF DONE 'CAUSE IT WAS A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TIME.
AND WE REALLY WANTED THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THOSE DAYS WERE SORT OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY THEY'RE OVER, THEY COULD COME BACK, BUT THE CURRENT CONDITION IS NOT THAT.
AND THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERTED EFFORT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, UH, TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR TENANTS AS OUR LEASES HAVE COME UP TO REALLY EVALUATE THE, THE PROPERTY, THE ECONOMIC CONDITION, HAVING AN APPRAISAL DONE, LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER CASH OR IT'S PUBLIC BENEFIT.
UM, BUT WE REALLY HAVE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S EXTRACTING THE VALUE OF ITS PROPERTY AND THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
UM, THAT'S BEEN THE UNDERLYING THEME IN EVERYTHING.
UM, IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN HEARTBURN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD DEALS IN THE PAST THAT MAYBE, UH, WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THEIR FAVOR.
BUT, UM, I THINK YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS VERY MUCH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING THE VALUE OF WHAT RIGHT, UH, IS GOING ON IN THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF BEEN THE, THE MISSION AND THE GOAL THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SO YEARS.
UM, WE, AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL NEGOTIATE OFFICE AND FACILIT LEASES FOR OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
UM, PD HAS BEEN A BIG, UH, CUSTOMER OF OURS FOR THEIR, UM, EVIDENCE STORAGE AND THEIR CRIME LAB.
UM, BUT THEY'RE GONNA GET A PERMANENT ONE NOW AT 1 25 ELM.
WE'RE STILL ON THE HUNT FOR, UH, EVIDENCE STORAGE FOR LONG TERM.
BUT, UM, WE, UM, ALSO HANDLE HR.
WE JUST ENTERED INTO A LEASE FOR, UH, TWO SUITES AT AIRPORT PLAZA FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST GROWN AND, UM, THEY NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THEY'VE JUST EXPANDED BEYOND THE CAPACITY THERE.
SO, UM, IT'S REALLY SORT OF WORKING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO FORECAST THEIR NEEDS.
UM, AND THEN TENANT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT THESE FACILITIES.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE HR LEASE THAT WE DID, IT IS A, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A $2 MILLION BUILD OUT BECAUSE IT'S A CORE AND SHELL BUILDING.
SO WE'RE HANDLING THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH THE SPACE PLANNING DESIGN.
UH, THE LANDLORD'S GONNA DO THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT JUST SORT OF FOLLOWING THAT ALONG THE WAY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE SPACE IS BUILT OUT FOR THE TENANT THAT SO THEY CAN, UM, OPERATE EFFICIENTLY THERE.
UM, LEMME GO BACK TO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
SO, UM, WE, UM, GET, A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST GET PROPERTIES SORT OF HANDED TO US.
UM, SO FIRE STATION NINE CLOSED, THE ARMORY GOT HANDED BACK TO THE CITY, THE HOSPITAL GOT HANDED BACK TO THE CITY, COMES TO MY SHOP BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE REALLY WANTS IT, TO BE QUITE FRANK.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS IS, IS BUSY TAKING CARE OF FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING USED BY CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SO OFTENTIMES IF IT'S AN EMPTY FACILITY, IT WILL COME TO ME, UM, SORT OF ON AN INTERIM PERIOD WHILE WE DECIDE ARE WE GONNA REPOPULATE IT WITH A SERVICE, ARE WE GONNA SELL IT? AND THEN IF WE SELL IT, WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND, UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE EITHER SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM.
WE DO WORK WITH A THIRD PARTY PROPERTY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DAY-TO-DAY STUFF, LANDSCAPING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE BEING HANDLED.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A, I WANNA SAY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE MINUTE I GET A BUILDING BACK, I HAVE TO PUT SECURITY ON IT.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, QUITE COSTLY.
BUT IF NOT, UM, IT'LL BE GUTTED WITHIN A MONTH.
SO, UM, WE WORK ON A, A LOT OF REALLY JUST CARING FOR THE PROPERTIES AND NOT TRYING TO BECOME A NUISANCE NEIGHBOR FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UH, THAT'S REALLY OUR GOAL.
WE'RE ALL OVER THE CITY, DEPENDING ON, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THE NEED IS.
AND THEN JUST, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE BEACH CONCESSIONS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE AGREEMENTS.
TYPICALLY WE DON'T, UM, ACTUALLY LET ME, LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK.
SO FOR PARKS AND REC, I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE PROBABLY MY BIGGER CUSTOMER OVERALL.
UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF AGREEMENTS THAT WE KNOW NEGOTIATE ON THEIR BEHALF AND MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE TENANTS OR THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON AT THE PROPERTY, WE SORT OF STEP IN.
TODD AND I HAVE TO COLLABORATE A LOT ON, UH, DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AND, UM, ANY ISSUES THEY MIGHT BE HAVING.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WHERE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS ACTUALLY DID AN RFP TRIED TO GET VENDORS OUT THERE, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY GET ANY RESPONSES.
THERE'S NONE, RIGHT? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WAS NONE.
THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU CAN DO? AND I SAID, WELL, WE COULD USE A BROKER BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA PUSH IT, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THE CALLS, THEY'RE GONNA DO ALL THE, THE, THE LEGWORK AND UM, AND REALLY TRY TO GET RUSH.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA USE THEIR NETWORK OF RESTAURANTS AND CLIENTELE TO TRY AND GET SOMEBODY TO, TO LEASE THESE SPACES.
AND SO WE WORKED WITH THEM, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL.
WE'VE, WE'VE HAVE SOMEBODY FOR EVERY SITE.
UM, WE DID HAVE SOMEBODY FOR THE RENTAL CONCESSIONS.
UM, THEY DIDN'T, THEY COULDN'T REALLY MAKE A GO OF IT.
SO WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO REPOPULATE THAT.
UM, BUT IS THAT, IS THAT THE ONE ON, UH, BAYSHORE THE BAY? THAT'S ONE OF 'EM, YEAH.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE OPEN AGAIN FOR, UH, YEAH.
GRILL 'EM ALL THE BIG SHO CONCESSION THAT IS A, A FOOD CONCESSION.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING TO FINISH UP THEIR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.
I'M HOPING THEY'RE GONNA BE OPEN UP IN THE MONTH OF MARCH, IF NOT, UH, APRIL.
HOW ABOUT THE RUN OF THE, THE, THE KAYAKS AND ALL THAT STUFF? BECAUSE KAYAKS, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S
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A LONG, LONG TERM.I THINK IT WAS THE BIKE PEOPLE.
SO THE THREE RENTAL CONCESSIONS WE HAD WERE GRANADA UNI ROW, AND ALAMEDO GOT, AND ALAMEDO HAS THE BRAND NEW, UM, FACILITIES.
EVEN THE, WHEN THAT SET VACANT FOR A WHILE WHERE GAUCHO GRILL IS NOW.
AND THAT SEEMED TO GET SERIOUSLY DAMAGED BY YEAH.
WHO, WHO WAS THAT? WHO AND KEVIN
BY COMBINATION OF THINGS, BY WEATHER, BY GRAFFITI ARTISTS, BY, YEAH.
FOLKS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS LONG ENOUGH, IT'S, THE WORD GETS OUT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT HELPFUL WHEN THEY, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR ARTICLE THAT WE'VE PURCHASED A BUILDING LIKE 1 25 ELM THAT GETS SPLASHED ALL OVER THE PAPER, THAT IS THE CALLING CARD FOR IT.
SO THAT'S WHY AS SOON AS, WELL, LOOK, IT HAPPENED IN LA WITH THE, THE ONE, UH, THE ONE BUILDING THAT WAS HIGH RISE.
SO HAVE THERE BEEN LESSONS LEARNED FROM LIKE, GALCHO GIRL? 'CAUSE THAT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS A LOT OF STUFF TO RECOVER AND IT TOOK A LONG TIME BEFORE A FENCE WAS PUT UP.
YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT WAS HANDLED BY PUBLIC WORKS.
SO IF IT WAS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD'VE HAD A FENCE UP THE MINUTE THAT THE BUILDING WENT UP.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK, I THINK THE, UM, THE CHALLENGE IS ALWAYS MONEY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS THE COST TO PROTECT IT.
AND SO, UM, BUT I THINK NOW THAT THAT'S BECOMES SORT OF THE STANDARD IS JUST THE MINUTE SOMETHING GOES UP OR SOMETHING BECOMES OURS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PUT RESOURCES ON IT.
A CERTAIN STANDARD OF PRACTICE.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO WE WORKED WITH THE CONCESSIONS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HELPED EACH OF 'EM NOT ONLY JUST GET THE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH PARKS AND REC, BUT YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT WHAT, WHAT PARKS AND REC NEEDED AND, AND, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO THE, THE BEACH GOERS THAT THEY'RE GETTING, THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS WHAT THEY NEED, THE TOOLS AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT EVEN EXTENDS AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE, TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE DONE NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT, WE HAND IT OFF TO THE CONTRACTS DIVISION IN PARKS AND REC, AND THEY HANDLE THE MAIN, THE DAY-TO-DAY STUFF.
UM, BUT OFTENTIMES THINGS WILL COME UP AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL REACH OUT AND WE'LL TRY TO ASSIST THEM.
WE'VE HAD A FEW, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, BAY SHORE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN A WHILE FOR THEM TO COMPLETE STUFF.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S GETTING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST STUCK ON SOMETHING AND THEY JUST NEED TO PICK SOMEBODY'S BRAIN.
AND SO WE JUST REALLY, UH, TRY TO WORK WITH THE TENANTS, WORK WITH TODD'S GROUP, WORK WITH THE CONTRACTS DIVISION, AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, GETS TO THE RESIDENTS ESSENTIALLY.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY ANOTHER THING WE SAW SOME THINGS WITH WAS DURING THE PARKING, THAT SO MANY OF THOSE CONTRACTS INCLUDED A GIVEN NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS MM-HMM.
AND IT LOOKED LIKE THOSE, THE AMOUNT THAT WERE COMMITTED ON EACH OF THOSE LEASES EXCEEDED THE INVENTORY.
UM, I DON'T WANNA PLACE BLAME ANYWHERE ELSE.
UM, BUT IT WAS, BUT HELP US UNDERSTAND.
SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
BUT, UM, IT WAS REALLY STARTED LOOKING AT THE CONTRACTS AND THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THE PAST TO TRY AND RECTIFY THOSE THINGS.
WE HAD IT SIMILARLY IN DOWNTOWN WITH THE PARKING GARAGES AT THE, AT THE FORMER CITY PLACE SITE.
BUT, UM, I THINK THERE WAS AN OVER COMMITTAL OF SOME OF THOSE SPACES.
AND WE WERE ABLE, WE JUST WENT TO COUNCIL IN DECEMBER TO CORRECT THAT.
I MEAN, ON, ON WHEN WE ATTEMPTED TO DO PARKING, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE REALIZED ALL THESE PLACES HAD CONTRACTS STATING WE GET 200 SPOTS.
WE'RE LIKE GOING, WHOA, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPOTS.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF A LONGER TERM FIX WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE.
BUT IT, I WANNA SAY IT'S SORT OF A GENERATIONAL SHIFT AGAIN, BECAUSE TENANTS GET VERY USED TO THAT.
UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING INTERESTS DOWN HERE WITH BOAT OWNERS, PEOPLE WHO VISIT THE TENANTS.
SO JUST TRYING TO BALANCE ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF STICKING TO REAL ESTATE PRACTICES.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA PROMISE ANYTHING, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S A, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS, BUT NO, IT'S A CONCERN OF OURS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE PEER CONCESSION AND THE RESTAURANT AT THE END.
UM, AND WHAT THE PLAN MIGHT BE, THAT ONE, I DON'T KNOW.
SO THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT GOES, I BELIEVE FOR ANOTHER FIVE TO 10 YEARS OUT THERE.
THEY, THEY BASED, THAT CONTRACT USED TO INCORPORATE ALL THE BEACH CONCESSIONS AS WELL, AND THE BEACH CONCESSIONS WERE REMOVED, BUT THEY HELD ONTO THE, THE PIER, UH, THE PIER VISIONING PROCESS IS ONGOING.
THE UPDATE, THE UPDATE FOR THE NEW PIER.
AND SO THERE'S NOTHING PLANNED FOR, I
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MEAN, A, THERE USED TO BE A REGULAR ARREST ON THAT FEE.AND, AND THAT'S ALL INVOLVED IN THE PEER VISION PROCESS OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE ON THE NEXT ITERATION OF OUR PEER.
SO FOR NOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING WITHIN THEIR CONTRACT AND, AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH JESS AND HER GROUP.
UM, BUT UH, WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE NEW PIER MAY LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION TOO, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE OIL ISLANDS.
AND I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME REUSE OF THE YEAH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN.
SO TYPICALLY IN THE PROCESS, A LOT OF THE TIME THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE REPLANNING AND THE VISIONING WILL HAPPEN WITH THE OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS SINCE THAT'S USUALLY THE CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY, UM, ARE GONNA VISION FOR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, ENERGY AND UTILITIES ENERGY'S NOW IN THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT WITH WATER.
SO, UM, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A, A PROCESS FOR ALL OF THAT.
UM, WE TYPICALLY WILL GET BROUGHT IN ONCE THEY KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I WANNA SAY MAYBE A YEAR BEFORE THEY'RE READY TO DO SOMETHING WE'LL GET BROUGHT IN.
'CAUSE OFTENTIMES WE'LL DO ASSESSMENTS FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR THE CITY MANAGER TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S POSSIBLE ON THE OIL ISLANDS, WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THEM, UM, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND WE HAVE CONSULTANTS THAT HELP US WITH THAT.
SO, UM, IT, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED TO STEP IN ON THAT YET, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE'LL GET BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AT SOME POINT AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS WITH THEM AND JUST TRY TO GUIDE THEM AT LEAST ACCORDING, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
AND THEN, UM, SEE WHAT, IT'S FAIRLY UNIQUE THOUGH.
BUT I HAVE, UM, I'VE WORKED ON A HOSPITAL, UH, CEMETERY
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S SOME OTHER ONES THAT, UM, I MEAN THAT ALL QUEEN MARY, WE'VE WORKED ALL THAT WILL GO THROUGH COASTAL COMMISSION AND RIGHT.
GOD BLESS ANYBODY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING OUT THERE.
I MEAN, IT JUST, AND THE CITY'S, THE CITY AT THIS POINT IS WE'RE JUST RECEIVING UNSOLICITED RIGHT.
PEOPLE ARE, ARE SAYING THEY'LL COME TO THE CITY MANAGER, THEY'LL GO TO THE MAYOR, THEY'LL GO TO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SAY, HEY, KEEP THIS IN MIND.
AND THEY'LL SAY, WE COULD DO THIS OUT THERE.
SO JUST, JUST THAT KIND OF STUFF.
RIGHT NOW, JUST A LOT OF UNSOLICITED, WE, WE DID THE SAME THING, UH, ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT THE AIRPORT AND CAME IN AND GAVE A WHOLE BIG PLAN AND THEN, UH, UM, IT, IT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO IT'S LIKE, AND THEY, THEY COME BACK AND TWO YEARS LATER, HEY, WERE YOU STILL INTERESTED? WE'VE ALREADY BUILT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ISSUE SOMETIMES.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT COMES UP FROM TIME TO TIME, UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON IT FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS, HAS BEEN THESE CONTRACTS THE CITY HAS THAT PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
AND FOR INSTANCE, THE ROOM THAT WE'RE IN MM-HMM.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A BENEFIT IT IS FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET VALUE OF WHAT THIS PLACE WOULD BE WITHOUT THAT, IT WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL, UM, A ADD TO THE AGREEMENT THAT ADDED OUR MEETINGS IN EXCHANGE FOR A TRASH ENCLOSURE.
BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR REGION, PARTICULARLY THE AREAS WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ONES WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF MAC.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, THE MAC IS HERE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OR A, YOU KNOW, FORUM FOR PEOPLE AS TO WHAT KIND OF BENEFITS WOULD THE PUBLIC LIKE, LIKE TO SEE IN SOME OF THESE AGREEMENTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW THE CITY IS AMENDING THESE CONTRACTS OR AS THEY'RE BEING RENEWED MM-HMM.
WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING IN A LESS THAN MARKET VALUE.
SO I CAN SPEAK GENERALLY, WE, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PROBABLY IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH PROBABLY EIGHT, UM, ENTITIES THAT ARE PROBABLY WITHIN YOUR AREA OF PURVIEW THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS ON.
IT DOES CAUSE SOME HEARTBURN, I GOTTA BE HONEST.
AND SO, UM, BUT WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A STANDARD WE HAVE TO STICK TO.
WE GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE DO DO IS WE DO DO THE APPRAISAL TO SET THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ZONING.
SOMETIMES IT, IT SEEMS LOWER THAN MAYBE IT WOULD BE IF IT WEREN'T, UM, IN A PARK.
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SOMETIMES IF IT'S IN A, A ZONED P IT HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A VALUE THAN SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD A HOTEL HERE, OR YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A RESTAURANT HERE.UM, BUT WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
WE WORK WITH THE APPRAISER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S APPRAISED APPROPRIATELY.
AND THEN WE ALSO, IF WE HAVE AN ENTITY THAT HAS PUBLIC BENEFIT OR THEY'RE ASKING FOR A DISCOUNT FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT COMPONENTS, WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE, UH, THE EXERCISE OF VALUING THOSE IN THE, IN THE MARKETPLACE.
WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? WHAT ARE THE VALUES OF THOSE? UM, WHAT WOULD SOMEONE PAY ON THE OPEN MARKET FOR THAT SERVICE? HMM.
IT COULD BE A LESSON, IT COULD BE RENTING A BOAT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND, UM, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY, A LOT OF THE ONES, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE IN QUITE A FEW RIGHT NOW, THE NEGOTIATIONS.
BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH A FEW OTHER GROUPS IS WE HAVE IT, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ANIMAL REPORTS AND THEY HAVE TO, IT'S ESSENTIALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE, LIKE A CONCESSIONAIRE HAS TO PROVIDE WITH THEIR PROFORMA OR THEIR P AND L STATEMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE.
THEY THEN MAY BE ABLE TO DEDUCT FOR CERTAIN BENEFIT THAT THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE NUMBERS.
AND SO THAT'S THE STANDARD WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
SO IS IT LIKE AT THE END OR AT THE END OF, LET'S SAY A YEAR REPORTING CYCLE OR SOMETHING THEY WERE ABLE TO DEDUCT IT? OR IS IT SNAPPED BACK IF THEY FAILED TO DO IT? THEY HAVE TO PAY WHAT THE DISCOUNT WAS? IT DEPENDS.
UH, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL RENT AND THEN THEY PROVIDE A, A REPORT IF THEY DON'T MEET WHATEVER THAT RENT THRESHOLD IS THEY OWE.
IF THEY DO, AND WE CAN VERIFY IT, WE ACTUALLY WILL GET THE REPORT AND GO THROUGH IT.
UM, THEN THEY DON'T OWE ANYTHING.
AND WE'LL JUST CLOSE THAT OUT AND WE, WE RECEIVE AND FILE THAT.
SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE A YACHT CLUB MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THAT SAILING LESSON OR THAT CLASS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, NONMEMBER OR SOMETHING.
SO THE MARKET WOULD BE FINE, BUT IF THERE'S EITHER NOT A LOT OF UPTAKE IN THOSE SPOTS OR THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL USAGE ACT YEAH.
NOT ONLY ACTUAL USAGE, BUT LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF TRYING TO COORDINATE SOME OF THESE PUBLIC BENEFITS.
SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANOTHER ORGANIZATION PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, BUS TRANSPORTATION MM-HMM.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE CONSIDERING.
SO, UM, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE AGREEMENTS WHERE I THINK THE RENT CREDIT WAS JUST SORT OF PROVIDED AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
AND THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS REALLY A, IT WAS REALLY THE, UM, THE BEST APPROACH BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT THAT BENEFIT'S BEING USED.
SO WE'RE SWITCHING NOW TO THE, YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TRUE UP EVERY YEAR ON WHAT THAT IS.
UM, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE DO WORK WITH A LOT OF NON-PROFITS, UM, WHO, UM, WANT CITY PROPERTY, THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION I GET AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD, YOU KNOW, A, A PRETTY GOOD NETWORK OF WHO WE CAN GO TO FOR PARTICULAR THINGS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE LESSONS, THERE MAY BE GROUPS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN HERE FOR LIKE A DAY CAMP MM-HMM.
SO WE ARE, UM, WE, THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE END OF ANY OF THESE AGREEMENTS TO ACTUALLY PUT IT INTO PRACTICE.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH AT TENANTS AS PART OF JUST OUR PROCESS.
THAT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL LOOK TO, UM, IF WE NEED TO.
I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS SOME OF THAT FALLS BACK ON THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE USUALLY WILL WORK WITH 'EM ON THE STAFFING IMPACT THAT, THAT MIGHT HAVE.
BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THEIR, THEIR, UM, WHAT IS THE GROUP THAT DOES THE CLASSES? I'M GONNA FOR PARKS AND REC, WHO SCHEDULED THE CLASSES? OH, COMMUNITY RECREATION SERVICE.
SO THEY DO HAVE STAFF THAT DO THAT.
BUT THEN IF WE'RE NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT WHERE SAY THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE 15 LESSONS A MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND SOMEHOW WE REQUIRE CITY TO FIND THOSE, THOSE GROUPS OR TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THEN THAT ADDS ANOTHER REQUIREMENT ONTO CITY STAFF PERSON.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
SO THAT, TO BE HONEST, THE ONUS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE GROUP THAT WE'RE GIVING THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE ALLOWING TO USE THE CITY PROPERTY AND THAT IT'S REALLY JUST THE AUDIT OR THE CHECK-IN THAT WE'RE DOING AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY DOING PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK I COULD SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY AS A MAC TO DEAL WITH PUBLIC BENEFIT ISSUES.
'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THESE ARE ACTUALLY BEING MET.
AND IT WOULD PROVIDE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRACK WHETHER THIS BENEFIT'S BEING USED AND IF THEY'RE NOT BEING
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USED, THEN WE CAN PROBABLY BETTER HELP CONNECT THOSE MM-HMM.UM, AS A NEWBIE, I'M, I'M TRYING TO CONNECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PRESENTATION CONTENT, AND I SUSPECT THAT THERE'S SOME HISTORY, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING.
CAN, CAN YOU TAKE A MINUTE AND WE, AND AND YEAH.
SORT OF HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT AND THE HISTORY OF YOUR QUESTIONS? YEAH.
WE HAD A, UH, A REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IN 2020, I THINK MAYBE 2021 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF, UM, SOME PARKING CHANGES TO THE PARKING LOT BY SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB, ALL THAT PARKING LOT, CIGNA, PCH, ALL THE WAY LOOPING UP AND A DESIRE TO, UM, CHARGE FOR SOME OF THE PARKING.
AND THERE WAS AN ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE PRESENTATION.
THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION FROM THE, FROM THE MAC TO IT, FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T WHAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE ANSWERED VERY COMPLETELY.
SO WE LOOKED AT AND RAISED ISSUES WITH IT, INCLUDING THE OVER SUBSCRIPTION OF PARKING SPOTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN LEASE AGREEMENTS TO BE FREE OF CHARGE, WHICH THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WAS NOW PROPOSING TO LOOK INTO CHARGING PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU ENTERED IT, YOU HAD A RESTAURANT THERE AND YOU HAD ASSUMED THAT ALL YOUR CUSTOMERS WERE GOING TO BE PARKING FOR FREE AND NOW THEY'RE CHARGING FOR PARKING, THAT IF I WAS A OWNER OF A BUSINESS, WOULD THINK THAT WOULD LOWER MY DEMAND FOR MY RESTAURANT.
AND IT COULD EXPOSE THE CITY TO LIABILITY.
'CAUSE THE CONTRACT HAD CHANGED, THE TERMS MATERIALLY CHANGED.
SO WHEN WE ENDED UP LOOKING INTO WHAT THESE AGREEMENTS WERE, THERE WERE ALSO IN, NOT SO MUCH THE BUSINESSES, BUT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS YACHT CLUB, PUBLIC BENEFIT PROVISIONS IN THERE.
SO THERE'S A LOWER MARKET RATE PLACED ON ORGAN CERTAIN BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
AND THERE'S NOT A REALLY EFFICIENT WAY TO TRACK WHETHER THAT BENEFIT'S ACTUALLY BEING PROVIDED OR NOT.
AND A LOT OF THESE AGREEMENTS ARE PRETTY OLD.
UM, SO IT'S, I THINK OUR QUESTIONS, OR MY QUESTIONS WERE FOCUSED ON, OKAY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM OF OLD AGREEMENTS WITH BAD TRACKING OF PUBLIC BENEFIT.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A BENEFIT TO THE LANDOWNER OR TO THE, TO THE BUSINESS GETTING LOW RENTS, LOW LEASE AGREEMENTS.
THEY'RE PAYING LESS, NOT GIVING THE PUBLIC ANYTHING WHICH IS AFFECTING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
BECAUSE WE COULD BE GETTING MORE MONEY FOR THAT SAME PROPERTY.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BETTER TRACK IT.
SO WE CAN EITHER MAKE SURE THOSE BENEFITS ARE BEING PROVIDED AND IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY NEED TO BE PAYING MORE.
SO, UH, MARY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THIS SINCE WE STARTED THE CONCESSION PROJECT, AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN SINCE THEN, IS HOW DO WE WEIGH FAIR MARKET VALUE AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT? BECAUSE THEY BOTH PLAY A BIG PART IN MAKING SURE THAT WE GET GOOD QUALITY VENDORS AT OUR LOCATIONS.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH MM-HMM.
SO, UM, AND THEN HOW DO WE TRACK THAT AND THEN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO IMPLEMENTING THOSE PROGRAMS? NOT JUST FOR THE FIRST YEAR, NOT FOR THE SECOND YEAR, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT.
AND SOME OF OUR CONTRACTS GO UPWARDS OF 15, 20, 25 YEARS WITH EXTENSIONS.
EVEN MORE SOMETIMES WITH EXTENSIONS.
SO IT'S MAKING IT A, A QUANTIFIABLE OPPORTUNITY TO TRACK IT AND THEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, THINGS IN PLACE TO, TO CLAW BACK IF THEY DON'T WELL IT'S NOT EVEN SO MUCH CLAW BACK.
I MEAN, I THINK IN THE PAST THIS CREDIT WAS JUST SORT OF GIVEN AND IT WAS STATED IN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE A, B AND C.
AND IN, AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, YOU'RE GONNA GET THIS RENT.
NOW IT'S YOUR RENT IS THIS, IF YOU PROVIDE A, B AND C, YOU CAN GET THIS MUCH CREDIT, BUT YOU DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GET IT.
YOU HAVE TO TRUE THAT UP TO GET IT.
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T PROVE IT, YOU CAN'T TRUE IT UP, THEN YOU NEED TO PAY THE SAME GOING THROUGH CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT IS, IT IT, I MEAN IT SHOULD BE MM-HMM.
WE BUILT A LARGE FACILITY IN CERRITOS TO BUILD IN CERRITOS.
GUESS WHAT? YOU HAD TO GIVE MONEY TO THE ARTS AND, AND YOU KNOW,
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TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL BEAUTIFICATION THE CITY, ANYBODY THAT BUILT THERE.AND HERE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT LEASE LARGE, LARGE PROPERTIES WITH MULTIPLE BUSINESSES ON IT.
ANYBODY CAN PARK THERE WHEREVER THEY WANT.
AND THEN THEY COMPLAIN BECAUSE WE WANT TO SIT THERE AND PUT CHARGE PARKING IN OTHER PARKING LOTS GOING, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
IF YOU'RE THAT UPSET ABOUT PARKING CHARGE YOUR OWN LOT, OH, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WON'T STAY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, BUT IT'S CITY PROPERTY.
THE CITY SHOULD COME IN AND SAY, NO, YOU'RE GONNA PUT PARKING METERS IN THERE AND YES, YOU ARE GONNA OPEN UP THE RESTROOMS, PUBLIC RESTROOMS, AND YOU ARE GONNA CLEAN 'EM.
'CAUSE THAT WAS A PART OF YOUR INITIAL CONTRACT.
BUT NO ONE KNOWS THE INITIAL CONTRACT 'CAUSE IT'S SO OLD.
WELL, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE, THE CHALLENGE THAT MY GROUP HAS BEEN, UM, WORKING ON PROBABLY FOR THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, UM, SINCE I WAS PUT IN THE POSITION, UM, IS TRYING TO DO IT, THERE'S A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL, UM, EXPECTATION BY THE TENANT.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY ENTITLEMENT, BUT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
AND THEN THERE'S JUST THE CONTRACT.
THE CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE ALLOWS THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
UM, I THINK IN THE PAST MAYBE SOME THINGS WERE OVERLOOKED OR KIND OF LET, LET GO.
UM, I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL, UM, I THINK THEY FEEL MUCH THE SAME WITH WE DO.
I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MY EXPERIENCE SO FAR IS THAT THAT TIDE HAS SHIFTED.
I WORKED IN A PUN AND UM, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THERE'S A CHANGE.
I THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION.
I THINK IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR VALUE AND THAT'S SORT OF WHAT OUR MISSION HAS BEEN.
UM, AND SO, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY A LOT OF THE UH, NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE ARE TAKING AS LONG AS THEY'RE TAKING, UM, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN HARD TO SWALLOW FOR SOME.
AND, UM, UH, THEY LIKE TO DIG THEIR HEELS IN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY GOT SOMETHING 15 YEARS AGO AND THEY WANT IT AGAIN.
AND OF COURSE YOU DO 'CAUSE IT WAS IN YOUR FAVOR.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE ECONOMIC CONDITION AND, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS GETTING THEIR BENEFIT.
ARE ARE YOU ABLE, I MEAN, HAS IT GOTTEN TO THE POINT WITH ANY OF THESE, EVEN TO CONSIDER PUTTING THEM BACK OUT TO BID? THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY, I MEAN THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE OPTION, RIGHT? ON ANY OF 'EM.
IF, IF SOMEONE ISN'T WILLING, UM, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES ACTUALLY THEY COME TO US BECAUSE THEY WANT TO RENEGOTIATE SOMETHING.
UM, AND SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE CAN REOPEN IT.
BUT THERE'S A, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED.
UM, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL WITH SHORELINE VILLAGE WHERE THEY CAME TO US AND THEY WANTED TO EXTEND BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PUT $8 MILLION WORTH OF INVESTMENT IN THERE AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD A PARKING STRUCTURE.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE CHALLENGES DOWN THERE.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS REALLY THE MONEY IN THAT RESPECT.
UM, IT'S ALSO THE ADDED AMENITY OF NOT STRUGGLING WITH PARKING AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
AND IT OPENED, I, YOU KNOW, THE LINE OF SIGHT IN EITHER RECONFIGURING THINGS.
THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT THAT I THINK IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE AREA AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR DEAL.
BECAUSE THIS WENT TO COUNCIL, I CAN SHARE IT, YOU KNOW, THEIR DEAL AS WE WORK THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT WHO WORKS WITH US TO VALIDATE THESE NUMBERS BEFORE WE TAKE THEM TO COUNSEL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT RESULTED IN A $1.5 MILLION EXTENSION FEE.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD EITHER ADJUSTED THE RENT CHARGED AN EXTENSION FEE OR BOTH.
IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A RENT ADJUSTMENT AND THEN THE ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN A, AN EXTENSION FEE.
IN THAT CASE, WE OPTED TO DO THE 1.5.
WE REALLY WANTED THEM TO PUT THE MONEY INTO THE FACILITY.
WE WANTED, YOU KNOW, THE OLYMPICS ARE COMING, WE REALLY WANT THIS TO LOOK ITS BEST.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE.
SO WE REALLY WANTED THEM TO, TO REFRESH THAT CENTER.
SO THOSE WERE KIND OF THE GOALS THAT WE, THAT WE HAD FOR THAT WHOLE NEGOTIATION.
IT VARIES FROM NEGOTIATION TO NEGOTIATION.
MY APPROACH WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN MY APPROACH WITH THE YACHT CLUB.
SO IT'S JUST THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, SO TO OUR CHAIR'S QUESTION OVER HOW THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION CAN PARTICIPATE OR ASSIST.
BUT THE NOTION IS, IS THAT THERE COULD BE SOME UNDER UNDERUTILIZED RESOURCES TO ASSIST YOU.
UM, SO I WOULD VOLUNTEER US FOR THAT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHAT THESE, WHAT THE CITY IS SECURING RIGHT.
WITH THESE AGREEMENTS AND HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE, BUT ALSO HOLD THESE, THESE TENANTS ACCOUNTABLE.
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NICE FOR US TO HEAR YEAH.INSTEAD OF READING IT IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT THIS WAS APPROVED, THIS WAS APPROVED, I'M LIKE GOING, WOW.
IT'S WITHIN OUR AREA OF, OF UNDERSTANDING.
AND WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE THE INPUT YOU HAVE, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST DIVERSE COMMITTEE YOU HAVE OR COMMISSION YOU HAVE, UH, IN THE CITY.
AND PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY CALL US.
AND I SAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
SOMEBODY WILL LOOK AT IT, WE WILL LOOK AT IT AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN ANNUALLY.
UM, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE FORGOTTEN.
AND TOO MANY OF THESE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES.
SO, I MEAN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND AGAIN, VOLUNTEER IF WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS SOME BACKUP FOR THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FROM THE MAX SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, VERIFIABLE, YOU KNOW, ME METRICS IN THESE THINGS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD.
IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU IN YOUR NEGOTIATIONS.
IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT AT LEAST IT'S, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC.
AND SO IT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC SAYING, LOOK CITI, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO.
AND IT'S ANOTHER TOOL FOR YOU GUYS TO, CAN I SUGGEST AN OPPORTUNITY TO IZE AN ITEM ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA FOR THE MAP TO TAKE THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THIS PRESENTATION AND POTENTIALLY LOOK AT AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP.
IT'S NOT POTENTIALLY AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE BROUGHT UP NOW SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM.
AND IT COULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR MORE DISCUSSION ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S BEEN FORMALLY ADDRESSED IN AND NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC.
DO WE HAVE A, LET'S, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
PROCEDURALLY IF I CAN, DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TIME? WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN DO IS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, WHEN YOU SEND OUT WHAT DO WE WANT ON THE AGENDA? YES.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.
AND THEN, AND YOU KNOW, MY FRAME OF THOUGHT IS IF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS, THAT AN AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE MIGHT BE A GREAT WAY TO START FRAMING HOW THAT COULD WORK AND WHAT WOULD BE THE, UM, SORTS OF, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT THE, THE MAC COULD TAKE ON AND, UM, TO DEVELOP A PROCESS.
WHEN, WHEN THE CITY CAME TO US AND WE REVIEWED HOW WE, I THINK I WAS CHAIR OF THE PARKING.
I THINK WE, WE DID THE PARKING THAT LASTED ALMOST A YEAR.
WELL, THEY CAME IN AND DID ONE TALK.
AND THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA VOTE ON IT THEN.
IT WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS GONNA, NO, WE, WE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WE SHUT IT DOWN.
BUT THERE WERE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND SO MANY POSSIBLE LAWSUITS AND NO ONE HAD ANSWERS.
AND JUST LIKE OUR CHAIRMAN SAID, AND, AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO.
'CAUSE WE BRING A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY TOGETHER ON ONE, ONE COMMISSION THAT A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK FOR THAT STUFF.
OUR, OUR AUTHORITIES FAIRLY LIMITED.
YOU KNOW, IT, WE, WE THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD, WE WOULD BE A GOOD VENUE FOR YOU COMMISSIONERS.
MAY I SUGGEST A POTENTIAL YES.
DISCUSS IT IN AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOMMEND A POSSIBLE REQUEST YEAH.
IN THE FACT THAT POTENTIALLY AN ANNUAL REPORT COULD BE MADE TO THE M OR THE ADVISORY COMMISSION REGARDING COMMUNITY BENEFIT OF LEASES IN YOUR PURVIEW.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS AT ANOTHER, ANOTHER TIME.
BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
UH, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OVERSIGHT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
HOWEVER, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REVIEW AND HOLD ACCOUNTABLE THE, THE BENEFIT EACH YEAR.
I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
I WASN'T, MY PROCEDURAL QUESTION WAS, I WASN'T SURE WHETHER WE COULD DO A PUSH A MOTION DURING A PRESENTATION, OR WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THE PRESENTATION'S DONE.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
YOU'RE ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS NOW.
SO BASICALLY THE REPORT IS DONE.
I WAS GONNA SAY, IS IT DONE? I'M THE REPORT.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKING THE QUESTIONS RIGHT.
UH, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
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PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN YOU CAN BRING IT BACK BEHIND THE TABLE FOR POTENTIAL MOTIONS AND VOTE.I WANTED TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.
UH, THE GRANADA CONCESSIONS, WAS THAT THE DOG, UH, RESORT, RIGHT? LIKE A DOG BAR? WHEN IS THAT SET TO OPEN? WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT, UH, PRIOR TO THIS SUMMER, WE HAVE SOME HICCUPS WITH SOME WATER, UH, UM, GETTING OUT TO THE, THE SITE AS WELL AS, UH, BASICALLY UTILITIES, WATER AND GAS.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES WITH THE, THE LB UTILITIES AND OUR MAINTENANCE CREW RIGHT NOW.
BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE BOTH BAYSHORE AND GRANADA, UH, OPEN BEFORE THE SUMMER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DO CONTRACTS AND STUFF ALL DAY, AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WHAT YOU CAN NEGOTIATE.
AND SO, UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER BOARDS THAT GET INFORMATION IN CITY CONTRACTS ABOUT COMPLIANCE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, WE COULD, I'M TRYING TO THINK.
I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE GET REPORTS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ABOUT HOW THESE ARE BEING COMPLIED WITH, THEY'RE PUTTING THE REPORTS TOGETHER AND THEN THEY'RE GIVING 'EM TO YOU.
WELL, IEM TO US, I SAY I, UH, SO THE REPORT WOULD PROBABLY COME FROM PARKS AND REC'S CONTRACT AREA, BECAUSE ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THE AGREEMENT, WE HAND IT OFF TO PARKS AND REC OR WHATEVER OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENT COULD BE POLICE OR WHOEVER TO, TO MANAGE A CONTRACT, WHICH INCLUDES MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE FILING THEIR ANNUAL REPORT.
SO PARSON REC WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKELY THE ONE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF RIGHT.
IF THAT, IF SOMETHING IS GOING, BUT THEY WOULD BE THE ONE TO ACTUALLY PRESENT IT.
THEY WOULD BE THE ONES MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE TURNING IT IN.
IF THEY DON'T DO IT, WE'LL HELP 'EM WRITE A LETTER YEAH.
THAT THEY'RE IN DEFAULT TO THAT, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT.
BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PARKS AND REC.
SO WE WOULD JUST BE NUDGING PARKS AND REC TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE REPORTS SO THEY CAN PRESENT 'EM TO US.
SO THAT IT'S, IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
IT, IT WOULD BE A, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, WE'VE LACKED OVER TIME WITH THESE LONG TERM MM-HMM.
WHAT ABOUT YEAR 10? WHAT ABOUT YEAR 15? WHAT ABOUT YEAR 20? AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IS, IS CHECKS AND BALANCES TO MAKE SURE ONE, THAT OUR OWN STAFF IS HOLDING THE, THE TENANT ACCOUNTABLE.
AND I WILL SAY THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE IN CONTACT WITH.
SHE'S GROUP WHO OVERSEES THE COMPLIANCE.
AND SO THAT'S BEEN, WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH THEM, JUST ABOUT ANY KIND OF, ALL THE MANY, I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 26 ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE HELPING THEM WITH.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WORK WITH THEM.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THIS CHANGE HAPPENS, IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR THE REPORT.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A DEFAULT TO THE LEASE.
DO YOU HAVE A STANDARD REPORTING? IS IT LIKE AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR? OR IS IT IN THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE LEASE? IT DEPENDS.
IT COULD BE THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE LEASE OR WE COULD JUST SWITCH TO A, A CALENDAR YEAR.
IT SORT OF DEPENDS ON THE ENTITY AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING REGULARLY.
FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE RANCHO LOS ALAMITOS MIGHT WANT TO DO IT BUDGET YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH US, BUT THEN, UM, I COULD BE WRONG.
THEY MIGHT BE DOING IT ON A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS.
SO WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT'S EASIEST FOR THEM.
'CAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THEM TO HAVE TO DO, UM, EXTRAORDINARY EXTRA WORK.
WE, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE DOING THEIR PROFIT LOSS AND THEIR ACCOUNTING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO THEN TAKING THAT AND EXTRAPOLATING IT INTO A REPORT THAT THEN TALKS ABOUT WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE MEETING THOSE, THOSE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THAT, UM, AGREEMENT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WORK WITH 'EM ON AND WE WANT IT JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW THAT.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF AGREEMENTS.
UM, I DON'T THINK I, I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON 'EM, BUT THERE WAS ONE THAT WE'VE USED SORT OF AS A, UM, NOT A STANDARD, BUT SORT OF AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, IT SOMETIMES HAS TO GET MODIFIED DEPENDING ON THE ORGANIZATION.
BUT, UM, WE ARE TRYING, ONE OF THE GOALS, UM, IS TO TRY AND STANDARDIZE THAT REPORTING SO THAT THE GROUP, OFTENTIMES IT'S A NON-PROFIT, UM, DOESN'T HAVE TO CREATE SOMETHING.
IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROVIDE TO THEM.
THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, FILL IT IN AND THEN THEY CAN SUBMIT IT.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SAME INFORMATION ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE IT.
BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TO THE END OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH ANY OF THESE GROUPS, THAT'S ON THE TO-DO
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LIST.WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FI OR I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DO WE HAVE IT, IF WE DO OUR OWN REPORTING, DO WE LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT REPORTS? DO WE DO THAT LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR? DO WE DO IT AT THE END? DO WE DO IT TWICE A YEAR? 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO IT ANNIVERSARY OF LEASE, RIGHT? SOME ARE FISCAL, WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THE LEASE TO SEE IF THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE LEASE.
NOT SO MUCH THE FINANCIAL SIDE.
I LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEASE.
I MEAN, BE IT, I MEAN, THEY CLOSED ALL OUR RESTROOMS. MM-HMM.
WELL, SHOULDN'T THAT BE OPEN IF IT'S GOT A PUBLIC RESTROOM? SHOULDN'T THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS? WELL, SINCE THEY'RE THE LEASE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S NOT REALLY PUBLIC 'CAUSE THEY'RE CONTROLLING ALL THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I THINK THAT GOES UNWATCHED BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD LEASES FOR SO LONG MM-HMM.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WITH SOMEBODY FROM 20 YEARS AGO MM-HMM.
AND NOW THEY JUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
AND I, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT SOME OF THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY THAT MM-HMM.
UM, BUT TO DRILL DOWN TO SIMPLY A COMPLIANCE ASPECT OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT EXACTLY.
ELEMENTS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT.
SO TO BE VERY CLEAR, IT'S JUST THE PUBLIC BENEFIT CONDITIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE STUFF IS TAKEN CARE OF BY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
UM, AND TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REVIEW OF THAT PROCESS AND, UM, SUGGEST THAT THIS BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR AN AGENDA ITEM NEXT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I MEAN, I'M SORRY, UM, COMMISSION COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC? GOOD, SIR.
UH, DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE ITEM HEARING? UM, SO CAN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO I WOULD MOVE, OH, SORRY.
SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN MOTION TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, HOWEVER, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT NOW.
UH, YOU'VE REQUESTED AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH THAT WE'LL DO.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION, WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOTION FOR AN AD HOC, MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS TO JUST VOTE, RECEIVE, UH, FOR THE RECEIVING FILE, WILL IZE AS YOU REQUESTED FOR NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR DELIBERATIONS ON AD HOC.
AND WHAT NEXT STEPS THEN? YEAH, I DON'T, WE DON'T, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO UNTIL WE GET, I MEAN, YOUR CONTRACTS AREN'T INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S WHY I, I, I RECOMMEND HOLDING OFF ON AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TILL YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION.
AND YOU CAN DEVELOP YOUR NEXT STEPS OF WHAT YOU, YOU SEE THIS LOOKING LIKE THEN.
UM, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY EXPECTATION OF WHEN THESE, WHEN WE SHOULD EXPECT LIKE, THE FIRST CONTRACTS TO BE EXECUTED? UH, I, I, I DON'T RECOMMEND COUNTING ON PROJECTIONS OF THAT.
UH, NEGOTIATIONS ARE A NEGOTIATION PROCESS.
UH, THE, THE TENANT WANTS WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.
THE CITY WANTS WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TENANT AND THE CITY.
THOSE THINGS CAN BE RIGHT HERE IN THE LINE.
SO A EXPECTATION OF A TIMELINE IS KIND OF DIFFICULT.
AND, AND JUST TO ADD, A LOT OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING RIGHT NOW ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME FORWARD AND ASKED TO RENEGOTIATE.
SO THEY STILL HAVE YEARS ON THEIR CONTRACT.
SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THESE NEVER GET AMENDED.
WE DON'T GIVE THEM ANYTHING ADDITIONAL OR WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE INVESTMENT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'D LIKE.
BUT, UM, WE ALSO, UM, DON'T WANT TO KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
SO WE'VE HELD A LITTLE BIT MORE FIRM, AGAIN, CAUSES A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN.
UM, BUT THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER AGREEMENTS WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY UP IN, IN LIKE 25, 26.
AND SO, UM, THOSE ONES, WE ARE SORT OF STARTING THAT PROCESS OF HAVING THE APPRAISAL DONE, LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO.
YOU KNOW, DO WE PUT IT OUT TO BID? DO WE RENEGOTIATE WITH A CURRENT TENANT? UM, SORT OF THE PROS AND CONS OF THOSE AND JUST SORT OF EVALUATING THAT INTERNALLY.
UM, AND TYPICALLY THAT ALSO INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, WE BRIEF COUNSEL AND WE BRIEF THE CITY MANAGER AND WE TRY TO FIND OUT, UM, WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THAT.
SO, UM, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST A REPORT THIS YEAR ABOUT CURRENT COMPLIANCE.
WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT YOUR AGENDA
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ITEM, UH, WE COULD INVITE, UH, MARCH PLANNING AND PARTNERSHIPS APP ATTEND.AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'LL BE MORE AS MUCH OF A PRESENTATION, BUT IT'LL BE A CONVERSATION LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE WHERE A DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE EXAMPLES WOULD BE NICE IF THEY COULD INCLUDE, THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY COULD ANONYMIZE WHO, YOU KNOW, WHOSE MM-HMM.
THIS IS FROM, BUT EXAMPLES OF THE EXISTING LANGUAGE AND DO YOU KNOW WHETHER, I MEAN, I DO AGREEMENTS AND STUFF A LOT, AND THERE, THERE MIGHT BE TEMPLATE AGREEMENTS.
SO ON, ON THE TEMPLATE AGREEMENTS MOVING FORWARD, IF THERE ARE TEMPLATE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY, HAS THE LANGUAGE WITH PUBLIC BENEFIT BEEN TIGHTENED? SO IF THERE ARE NEW AGREEMENTS COMING FORWARD, WE HAVE MODEL LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE USED AS TO WHAT THE CITY'S LOOKING FOR FOR DELIVERABLES.
I MEAN, WE HAVE STUFF THAT WE'VE REQUESTED BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS, BUT, UM, THERE'S A BASE THAT WE START WITH AND THEN IT KIND OF GETS MODIFIED DEPENDING ON THE, ON THE, UM, THE GROUP.
CERTAINLY THERE MAY BE BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE IN THE WORLD THAT COULD ASSIST AND HELP US HELP, UM, POTENTIAL AD HOC COMMITTEE LOOK AT SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE AND DETERMINE WHAT MIGHT BE IN THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY AND THE TENANT AND THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO ARE WE, UM, GOOD, JUST WITH THE AGENDA ITEM? I, I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND I FEEL LIKE THEN WE WOULD GET SOME PROGRESS MORE THAN JUST THE AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH.
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THE MOTION TO SAY? I THINK WE DO JUST EXACTLY WHAT YOUR, YOUR WORDS WERE.
LET'S START AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UH, BUT MOVING FORWARD AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE, THE PLANS IN THE REAL ESTATE AND THE, UH, UM, PUBLIC BENEFIT.
PUBLIC BENEFIT, PUBLIC BENEFIT ELEMENTS OF, OF CURRENT, OF CURRENT LEASE OPTIONS AND EXTENDED LEASES.
WHEN YOU EXTEND A LEASE, MY THOUGHTS, YOU EXTEND A LEASE, I DON'T KNOW, MAKE UP ONE.
UH, WHAT'S THE, THE SCOOTER LATER.
NOT SAYING SCOOTER LATER, BUT THAT, THAT AREA OF THAT, IF THAT'S A LEASE, UM, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT FOR THAT? OR MAYBE IT'S ONE OF THE YACHT CLUBS.
I JUST THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BENEFIT US BECAUSE WE REPRESENT THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO WOULD IT BE EXTENDED LEASE CURRENT LEASES? AN LET, LET'S KEEP SOMETHING SIMPLE FOR THE MINUTES HERE.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, SIR? YOU NEED TO CLEAN UP YOUR MOTION BOARD.
OH, I KNOW THAT
SHE'S GIVING HER BACKER AWARD.
I, I HONESTLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU WAIT ON YOUR AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION UNTIL YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR PARKS PLANNING AND PARTNERSHIP STAFF.
AND THEN ONE, YOU'LL GET TO KNOW THEM, YOU'LL MEET THEM TWO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT MOVING FORWARD INTO THE PROCESS.
UM, SO WHAT I, IF YOU WANT TO RUN A MOTION, UM, I WOULD SAY MOTION TO IZE, WELL, PARKS, REC AND MARINE STAFF RESPONSIBLE FOR, I, I WOULD THINK THOUGH, IF WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL BE MORE PREPARED WHEN WE HEAR THE BRIEFING NEXT MONTH WITH QUESTIONS AND THINGS.
IF WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE REALLY RESEARCHING AND LOOKING AT THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT YET UNTIL WE MEET WITH PARKS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE OUR, THEY'RE OUR UMBRELLA.
SO WE NEED TO TALK WITH THEM FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRULY WITHIN OUR LEGAL REALMS. SO ANOTHER MOTION YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN MOTION TO DELAY, RECEIVE AND FILE OF THIS PRESENTATION UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
WE DO NOT NEED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO COME BACK.
BUT IT WILL JUST BE ON THE CALENDARIZED AND THEN WE CAN, WITH THE CAVEAT TO SPEAK WITH PARKS PLANNING AND PARTNERSHIP STAFF.
BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC LOOKING AT THIS, YOU WOULD KNOW THOSE ISSUES ARE CONNECTED.
SO I WOULD SAY MOTION TO, TO DELAY, RECEIVE, AND FILE UNTIL NEXT MEETING
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AND FURTHER DISCUSSION.SO, BUT I WOULD ALSO ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, WITH THE PARTICIPATION OF PARKS, REC, AND MARINE STAFF RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ROLE TO BE PRESENT AND BE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST.
I THINK THAT IS, IS THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT.
WELL, YOU WANNA CLARIFY? PUT IT IN CLARIFICATION.
I, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I HAVE QUESTION BEFORE THE MOTION BEFORE THERE'S A, THIS IS CRAZY.
I'M ORDERED DINNER FOR EVERYBODY.
ONE, I'M ON A BOARD OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS THREE OF THESE LONG TERM AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY.
AND THEY ARE, SOME OF THEM ARE UNDER OUR PURVIEW.
DOES THAT MEAN I CAN VOTE FOR THE MOTION OR CAN'T VOTE FOR THE MOTION? ABSOLUTELY.
YOU, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE FINANCIAL INTEREST, YOU'RE GOOD.
IF WE CREATE A, AN AD HOC, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO BE ON IT BECAUSE OF BROWN ACT THREE.
AND AND BY VIRTUE OF DEFINITION, AD HOC IS THE TEMPORARY COMMITTEE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
COME FORWARD WITH WHATEVER THE TASK SIGNED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION IS.
AND THAT WOULD BE DEFINED IN THE CREATION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
ONCE THAT WORK IS COMPLETED, THEN THE COMMITTEE IS ENDED.
MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION WOULD MOVE THE HEAD WITH WHATEVER DECISIONS AND PROCESSES HAPPEN FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THAT COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND? WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A CLEAR MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE MOTION THAT YOU SHOULD, ONE OF YOU SHOULD SAY, DOES TAMLIN HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN? UH, NO, I DO NOT.
WOULD YOU LIKE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MOTION? LIKE, UH, I RECOMMEND THAT THE MOTION YOU MAKE SHOULD BE TO DELAY, RECEIVE, AND FILE UNTIL NEXT MEETING WHERE REPRESENTATIVES, PARKS, PLANNING AND PARTNERSHIP CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH RESPECT TO COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC, UM, BENEFIT, UH, CONDITIONS OF CONTRACTS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF PARK SHARK AND MARIA.
WITH PUBLIC BENEFIT, WITH CONDITIONS, WITH CONDITION TO COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN CONTRACT AGREEMENTS.
UH, DO THEY NEED FURTHER GUIDANCE THAT IT'S, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT IF IT'S NOT INSIDE OUR JURISDICTION.
YOU'RE GONNA TELL 'EM LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELDER PARK, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE TO YOUR GUYS' FOOTPRINT.
I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND HIS I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR THAT FOR A SECOND AND I'LL SECOND.
AND TODD, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE TO SAY ALL OF THAT.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA REREAD.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS.
I'M GONNA MOVE, I'M GONNA MOVE FOR A MOTION.
I'M GONNA HAVE TAMLIN READ WHAT THE MOTION IS.
IS THAT NECESSARY? YOU READ THAT? I THINK YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY IT.
NO, YOU CAN'T READ GUESS THE CHIN'S SCRATCH.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE, HE CAN DO ANYTHING
WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA CLEAN IT UP BECAUSE I'M GONNA, IT'S RECORDED.
BECAUSE THERE WAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO IT.
UH, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE RECORDING FOR THE PROPER NAME OF THE MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE GO.
ANY ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE.
WE GOT, OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TOLD YOU YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FUN.
BUT SHE'S GETTING HOME EARLY AND BEFORE SHE LEAVES.
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IS IN A POSITION THAT SUITS HER WELL AND SHE'S HEAVILY RELIED ON BY THE, WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING SHE DOES FOR US, HER AND HER TEAM.AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY SUZANNE MASON'S NAME IN IT FOREVER.
NO, AND I APPRECIATE TODD AND HIS GROUP.
THEY'VE BEEN A, A GREAT GROUP TO WORK WITH.
THE WHOLE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN TAKE BACK HOW SERIOUSLY THE MAC IS TAKING THIS ISSUE, PUBLIC BENEFIT AND PREVIOUS MACS MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AS FOCUSED ON IT.
BUT THIS ONE IS, IS HYPERSENSITIVE TO IT.
AND SO, UM, I KNOW I HAVE YOUNG KIDS AND NOT EVERYONE IN MY KIDS' CLASSES CAN DO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT MY KIDS DO.
AND IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES WERE GETTING A DISCOUNT 'CAUSE THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA DO IT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL START WITH, UH, CAPTAIN DIXON.
UH, MY NAME'S, UH, SCOTT DIXON, UH, HERE AT THE LONG BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SAFETY DIVISION.
UM, JUST GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR DIVISION.
THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A VERY BUSY, BUSY WEEKEND FOR US WITH THE RAINS.
USUALLY WE PUT THREE UP THIS WEEKEND.
UM, 'CAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH GOING ON IN THE CITY, THE TEAMS WERE SUPER BUSY.
UM, WE HAD LOTS OF FLOODING, INCLUDING OVER OFF THE SEVEN 10 WILLOW PENINSULA.
UM, AND I HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS TO, UH, KELLY AND HIS TEAM.
I WAS SITTING THERE WATCHING THE WATER RISE AND WE WERE CLEARING DRAINS WITH MY CREWS AND I, ONE PHONE CALL.
AND, UH, KELLY AND HIS, COREY AND HIS TEAM CAME AND BROUGHT US TWO PUMPS AND SAVED THE DAY.
SO IT WAS, UH, I LOVE THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE AND IT WORKS REALLY WELL.
AND, UM, PUBLIC, UH, WORKS WAS ALSO THERE, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON THE END OF IT.
BUT, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS AWESOME.
THE RESIDENTS WERE ALL THERE, SAW EVERYBODY WORKING.
UH, WE LOVE WHAT WE DO AND IT WORKED.
UM, LA RIVER, WE HAD, UH, TWO PEOPLE DRIVE JET SKIS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE LOW HEAD DAM.
UH, ONE GENTLEMAN ACTUALLY WENT INTO IT AND WENT THROUGH THE ROTATION AND GOT KICKED OUT.
YOU DUNNO ANYTHING ABOUT LOW HEAD DAMS? THEY ARE DEATH TRAPS.
I TOLD THE GUY TO GO BUY A LOTTERY TICKET.
UM, SO HIS, OH MY GOD, HIM AND HIS PARK, HIS BUDDY WERE UP THERE AND, UH, THEY JUST BEEN THERE BEFORE WHEN IT WASN'T RAINING AND THEY NO BIG DEAL.
AND THIS TIME IT WAS SO, UM, THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG RESCUE.
THEY HAD ACTUALLY A RESCUE THEMSELVES, BUT IT WAS A PRETTY BIG CALL FOR US.
'CAUSE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE HERE, LOW HEAD AND YOU START GOING THROUGH IT.
UM, WE HAD BERM WAS, UH, HELD UP GREAT.
UH, BEACH IS OF COURSE DIRTY 'CAUSE OF THE RIVERS, UH, COMING DOWN.
BUT, UH, THE CREWS ARE WORKING ON THAT.
UM, HAD THE POLLUTION SPILL AND THE RIVER TOO.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE BOAT ON THE ROCKS, UH, CALL, WHICH, UM, OUR CREWS WERE VERY PROUD TO SAY, DID A GREAT JOB AND RESCUED, UH, EVERYBODY WAS RESCUED, UM, INCLUDING THE SAND BOAT THAT WAS THERE TO HELP AS WELL.
BUT, UM, EVERYBODY LUCKY ON THAT ONE TOO.
UM, AND I THINK THAT COMES WITH TRAINING AND PRACTICE AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BEING PREPARED FOR, UH, THINGS LIKE THIS.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? AND PUTTING THE RIGHT, UH, DOMINOES, IF YOU WILL, IN THE RIGHT PLACES.
SO WE, UH, PRIDE OURSELVES ON THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, WHAT ELSE? WE HAVE A COUPLE BOATS SINK IN THE MARINA RAIN.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THAT JUST, THAT JUST HAPPENS WITH A BIT.
WE HAD, I THINK THEY SAID OVER 10 INCHES SINCE MAY OR FEBRUARY 2ND, I THINK IS WHAT I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER.
SO AS FAR AS THAT GOES, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
UM, UM, I WAS A HAPPY RECIPIENT OF A NUMBER OF EMERGENCY LONG BEACH, YOU KNOW, ALERTS AND EMAILS AND TELEPHONE CALLS AND SUCH.
I ALSO, UM, WAS IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FREE SANDBAG PROGRAM IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH FLOODING ON MY PROPERTY.
AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO OPERATIONS AT 72ND STREET.
AND, UM, I WAS PREPARED WITH MY ID TO DEMONSTRATE THAT I WAS A LONG BEACH RESIDENT.
AND, UM, I CAN'T SAY THAT ANYONE EVER ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I WAS ALSO PREPARED TO ASK FOR 10 SANDBAGS.
AND, UM, THE SANDBAGS IN THEIR CARDBOARD BOXES WERE
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BEING, LET'S JUST SAY OVERTAKEN BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND NOT BEING, UM, ESSENTIALLY DISTRIBUTED.DISTRIBUTED IN A WAY THAT MIGHT HAVE ENSURED THAT EVERYONE WHO NEEDED SANDBAGS THAT DAY WAS GONNA GET THEM.
WE RECOGNIZED TOO THAT IN THE PAST, SANDBAGS HAVE BEEN VERY VALUABLE COMMODITIES AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RUN OUT OF THEM.
SO THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE TAKING MORE THAN THEIR, UH, ALLOTMENT.
UM, I MIGHT ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE SAND TRAILER THAT'S STAGED AT 72ND BE PUSHED AWAY FROM THE ROUTE OF THE BULLDOZERS AND TRUCKS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BERMS. BECAUSE AS WE APPROACHED WITH OUR CAR AND WERE WORKING TO GET OUR SANDBAGS, UM, WE WERE TOLD TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE TRUCKS THAT WERE BUSY WORKING ON THE BERMS. AND IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THAT'S A FAIRLY LARGE PARKING LOT, AND THAT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A, A PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS THE TRAILER WITH THE SAND AND THE SANDBAGS AWAY FROM THE OPERATIONS INVOLVED WITH THE BER JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
IT WAS, UH, PRETTY CLEAR THAT PEOPLE WERE GETTING IN THE WAY AND THE LIFEGUARD WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SORT OF MONITORING THE OPERATIONS WAS, UM, BEING PULLED IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
UM, SO THROWING, GIVING THAT OUT TO YOU JUST AS A, AS A OBSERVATION OF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FREE SANDBAGS THAT I NEEDED.
UM, AND KNOWING THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO NEEDED BAGS THAT DAY, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THEY WOULD'VE LASTED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY REPORTS OR HOW RESOURCES WERE BEING DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT OTHER AREAS OF LONG BEACH WITH RESPECT TO THOSE SANDBAGS, BUT, UM, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A LITTLE CHAOTIC.
UM, WE ACTUALLY MOVED THE OPERATION TO CLAREMONT, UM, WHERE THEY COULD GO IN AND OUT OVER THERE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE ASKED FOR IDS, THOUGH.
IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN BE BETTER AT.
WELL, AND THE NUMBER OF SANDBAGS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE FILLING AND TAKING, FILLING AND TAKING, FILLING AND TAKING, AND THERE WAS NO MANAGEMENT OF HOW MANY BAGS PEOPLE WERE BEING GIVEN, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT UP FOR SURE.
IT'S A TOUGH MOMENT WHERE YOU THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WALKS UP AND SAYS, WELL, I NEED 20 SANDBAGS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA FILL 'EM? DID YOU BRING YOUR SHOVEL? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THERE TO RECEIVE THE SANDBAG IN THE SAND, BUT NOT BEING PREPARED TO, TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE WORK.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, AND MANY PEOPLE WEREN'T CAPABLE OF PHYSICALLY OF GETTING THE BAGS FILLED THEMSELVES.
UM, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKING A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO NEEDED BAGS THAT DAY.
IT WAS THE SAME AT SILL BEACH.
I MEAN, IT WAS THE SAME IN A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS THAT SHOVELS ARE JUST IN THE BAG.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 30 PEOPLE THERE AND YOU HAVE FOUR SHOVELS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SANDBAGS AND A WHOLE LOT OF SAND.
BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS UP AND DOWN.
IT WAS, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT IT WAS IN THE THOUSANDS OF SANDBAGS.
SOME THOSE, SOME PEOPLE JUST COME IN WITH THE SANDBAGS.
SOME PEOPLE NEED HELP FILLING 'EM.
COME UP SOME COOL LITTLE TRICKS OF THE TRAFFIC CONE CUT UPSIDE DOWN.
YOU KNOW, LITTLE FILLING THE SAND GETS WET, THEN IT TURNS INTO CLUNKY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE FI WE'RE FIGHTING IT ALL THE WAY, BUT, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHEN I, WHEN I'VE GOTTEN MY SAND FOR THE SANDBAGS, I ACTUALLY BRING A METAL, IT'S LIKE A METAL SERVING BOWL, UH, AND IT'S JUST PERFECT THE SCOOP, SCOOP IT UP AND YEAH.
SO MAYBE SOME SUGGESTIONS IS THAT PEOPLE COULD BRING, THEY DON'T HAVE A SHOVEL.
THEY GOT US THIS COOL YELLOW TRASH BUCKET THING THAT WORKS PRETTY GOOD.
BUT, UH, THE BEACH MAINTENANCE USED TO HAVE A COOL THING WHERE THEY DUMPED IN THE TOP AND YOU JUST CRANKED IT OUT.
SO AS WE DO MORE AND MORE OF THIS, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO GET A LITTLE SMARTER, A LITTLE MORE CLEVER ABOUT, SO PEOPLE JUST BRING BAGS AND THEY GO DOWN TO THE BEACH AND START FILLING.
IS THAT ILLEGAL? OR THEY CAN TAKE SAND OFF THE BEACH.
YOU NEED TO RETURN THE SAND TO THE BEACH.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE SAND FROM THE BEACH.
YOU'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO TAKE ANYTHING FROM THE BEACH PERIOD.
SO THE LIFEGUARD SHACK THAT I HAVE NO
EMERGENCY, EMERGENCY SITU SCENARIOS TAKE PRECEDENT.
BUT THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS WHEN YOU DISPOSE OF YOUR SANDBAGS, THE SAND SHOULD RETURN TO THE BEACH FRONT.
WELL, OVERHEARD THAT MORNING TOO.
IS SOMEONE EXPLAINING TO THE PUBLIC THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKE YOUR BAGS, GO FILL
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'EM ANYWHERE YOU WANT.AND I, I'M GESTURING TO THAT TRAILER FILLED WITH SAND AND I'M GESTURING TO THE SAND BEACH.
RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, SO WELL, NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILL THEM HERE.
YOU CAN TAKE THE BAGS ANYWHERE YOU LIKE AND FILL THEM.
AND I, I SORT OF HAD TROUBLE WITH THE, THE, WHAT WAS TRYING TO BE CONVEYED IN THAT MESSAGE, UM, WHICH WAS HOW CONVENIENT IS IT TO FILL A BAG WHEN YOUR TED STEPS AWAY FROM IT, VERSUS TAKING THEM AND DRIVING YOUR CAR DOWN TO ANOTHER PUBLIC BEACH IN LONG BEACH AND FILLING THEM WITH SAND THAT, THAT, THAT LOCATION PARK.
SO I FOUND IT A LITTLE, UM, CONTRADICTORY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SERVICES, UM, THE PUBLIC MIGHT HAVE EXPECTED DOWN THERE.
NOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY FILL THE BAGS WITH THEM SO MUCH AS AND AT THE BEACH ALREADY.
WHY DON'T WE JUST FILL THEM HERE? YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING, UH, KELLY ARMSTRONG WILL PRESENT OUR BEACH AND OUR MAINTENANCE UPDATES.
UH, CORY FORSTER'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
UM, AS TODD SAID, COREY FORSTER WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT, SO I'LL JUST SHARE A COUPLE UPDATES, UH, ON HIS BEHALF.
UM, A LOT OF THESE UPDATES FROM HE AND COREY KIND OF RELATE TO THE, THE RECENT, UH, STORM, UH, EVENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING.
UM, SO FOR CORY'S OPERATION AT MARINE MAINTENANCE STAFF, UH, HAS REMOVED, UM, IT'S NOT STORM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET INTO THAT.
STAFF IS REMOVED AND STOCKED AWAY ALL PONTOON BASES, WEIGHTED ANCHORS, STRING LIGHTS, AND FINALIZING THE WEAK CLEANING, UM, OF THE ELECTRICAL CABLE BEFORE STORING IT AWAY FOR THE NEXT SEASON.
UH, RELATING TO ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITH THE, THE CHRISTMAS TREES, UH, STAFF IS WORKING TO REQUEST, UH, NINE ADDITIONAL SOLAR, UM, CHRISTMAS TREES FOR COLORADO LAGOON, UH, TO REDUCE THE ELECTRICAL CABLE THEFT THERE.
REPAIRS ARE UNDERWAY FOR D FIVE, UH, MEN'S BOAT OWNER, UH, SHOWER, UH, EXPERIENCED, UH, WATER INTRUSION AND A FEW A BM BOAT OWNER RESTROOMS FROM THE STORM, UH, WATER WEEPING IN FROM POOLING SIDEWALKS, UH, NEXT TO THE BUILDINGS.
AND WHERE'S D FIVE? WHERE IS THAT ONE? UH, THAT WOULD BE DOWNTOWN, UH, MARINA, UH, PROBABLY CLOSE TO DOCK.
P OR, OR RIGHT NEXT, RIGHT ADJACENT TO SHORELINE.
UM, EXPERIENCED SOME FLOODING, UH, TO THE CARL COLORADO LAGOON CO-OP AND MODEL BOAT SHOP.
UH, WORKING TO RESOLVE THAT WITH INSTALLATION OF SUM PUMPS, UH, WORKING WITH COAST GUARD, UH, TO RESUBMIT A PERMIT ALLOWING FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE SOLAR, UH, LIT BUOYS IN THE ALBIDO BAY MARINA.
YEAH, I WILL RETIRE AFTER THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONGOING.
SO THOSE WERE CO'S UH, UPDATES FROM MARINE MAINTENANCE.
UH, A COUPLE OF MY UPDATES FROM, UH, BEACH MAINTENANCE, UH, REGARDING THE STORM.
UH, THERE WAS SOME EROSION, UH, ON THE PENINSULA THAT OUR CREW, UH, WORKED CONTINUOUSLY, UH, THROUGH THE, THE STORM EVENTS TO REBUILD THAT BEACH AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENT, UH, THE, THE BERM.
UH, THERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE REALLY THAT IMPACT OF LARGE WAVES WITH THIS STORM, BUT, UM, THEY WERE, UH, SOME WAVE EVENTS AT A CERTAIN DIRECTION THAT, UH, CAUSED SOME EROSION, UH, WITH HIGH WINDS AS WELL, WHERE ON THE PENINSULA IT WAS ABOUT 58 TO 68.
A PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD AREA THERE WAS BEING IMPACTED WITH, UH, WITH THE STORM.
UH, UH, THE BEACH WAS REBUILT SAME DAY.
UH, CONTINUING, UH, RENOURISHMENT EFFORTS THERE.
UH, STORM DEBRIS, UH, ARRIVED ON OUR WEST BEACH, UH, FROM ABOUT FIRST PLACE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UH, THE PIER, UH, REALLY IS THAT ENTIRE WEST BEACH FRONT, UH, KIND OF ARRIVED THERE, UH, AFTER THE HEAVY RAINS WE RECEIVED.
UH, AND IT SHOWED UP ON OUR BEACH ON THE SEVENTH, UM, I'M SORRY, ON THE SIXTH.
UH, THE CREW STARTED REMOVAL, UH, PROCESS ON THE SEVENTH AND REMOVED 166 TONS, UH, YESTERDAY.
AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING THAT CLEANUP PROCESS THROUGH, UH, THIS WEEK AND INTO NEXT WEEK.
UM, UH, A BIG, UH, ASSISTANCE.
UH, WE WE'RE FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE OUR REPLACEMENT, UH, FRONT LOADER MACHINES, UH, FROM OUR, OUR FLEET, UM, UH, FACILITY.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE REPLACING OUR CURRENT MACHINES.
WE'RE GONNA HOLD ONTO OUR CURRENT ONES RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS ACCEPTING THE NEW ONES AND UTILIZE MORE MACHINES TO QUICKLY, UH, AND EFFICIENTLY PICK UP, UH, STORM DEBRIS AS WELL AS, UH, HELP US WITH THAT, UH, BEACH RENOURISHMENT EFFORT.
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UH, MOVING ON TO RAINBOW HARBOR.UH, A LOT OF STORM ACTIVITY THERE.
WE STAFFED, UH, OUR RAINBOW HARBOR BOOMS 24 HOURS.
UM, OUR SKIMMER VESSEL OPERATIONS ARE UNDERWAY FOR, UH, REMOVAL OF DEBRIS IN THE RAINBOW HARBOR SHORELINE MARINA, UH, QUEENSWAY BAY AREA.
UH, A PROJECT THEY'RE WORKING ON THERE THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH, UH, RAINBOW HARBOR IS THE SECURITY GATE INSTALLATION FOR, UM, THOSE, UH, COMMERCIAL DOCKS THERE.
THEY'RE BEING FABRICATED SHOULD, UH, WE'RE HOPING AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION OF THE END OF MARCH.
UM, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR GROUNDS, UH, OPERATION.
UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, WITH, UH, LONG BEACH UTILITIES AS WELL AS, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY, UH, AREAS OF NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF AREAS.
UM, A NEW ARTICLE, UH, ASSEMBLY BILL ONE 50, UH, 1572 THAT IS GONNA BE WORKING TO, UM, UH, LIMIT WATER USE AND TRANSITION FROM, UH, TURF AREAS THAT ARE NON-FUNCTIONAL, NOT FOR RECREATION USE, UH, AND TRANSITION THOSE TO, UM, DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPES.
UM, ON THAT NOTE, WE'RE WORKING ALSO WITH, UH, LONG BEACH UTILITIES, UH, SURF RIDER FOUNDATION AND THE CALIFORNIA ACTION CORPS TO HAVE AN EVENT, UH, PRETTY SOON ACTUALLY, UM, IN THE SHORELINE ARENA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSITIONING A SMALL AREA OF, UH, NON, UM, FUNCTIONAL TURF SPACE THERE.
UM, IT'S A VOLUNTEER, UM, OPPORTUNITY AND KIND OF AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS TO THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES IS GONNA BE DOING, UM, TO TRANSITION THAT OVER TO A, UH, DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPE.
UM, AND, UM, UH, OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON IS AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT ALSO FOR THE QUEENSWAY BAY AREA.
THAT'LL BE CENTRALIZING OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND UPDATING IT, UM, UH, TO BETTER WORK, UH, WITH, UH, UH, WATER RESOURCES AND AS WELL AS, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS.
I'M THE LADY WHO SAYS THIS ALL THE TIME.
UM, THERE'S DROUGHT TOLERANT AND THEN THERE'S, USING NATIVE SPECIES.
AND NATIVE SPECIES ARE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL BECAUSE WITH THE HUMAN LANDSCAPE BASICALLY CARPETING SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IT IS REALLY MEANINGFUL TO MAKE THESE LITTLE POCKETS OF HABITAT FOR NATIVE PLANTS TO THEN SUSTAIN NATIVE BUTTERFLIES AND BIRDS.
SO I JUST REALLY URGE YOU AND THE WHOLE CITY TO THINK BEYOND DROUGHT AND THINK NATIVE PLANTS.
AND AN EXCELLENT PLANT PALETTE THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY IS THE NEW, UM, UH, PLANT PALETTE FOR THE NEW ZONING FOR SOUTHEAST LONG BEACH.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU WHILE YOU'RE CHOOSING PLANTS.
IT'S LOTS AND LOTS OF PLANTS AND IT'S ALREADY RUN THROUGH THE SCREEN OF BEING, UM, FOR, UM, HABITAT, IF THAT'S HELPFUL AT ALL.
UM, I DO BELIEVE I, MAYBE I SHORTENED IT BY SAYING DROUGHT TOLERANT.
I, I KNOW THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IS, UH, CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANTS AS WELL.
IF THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT I CAN PROVIDE FROM THAT PLANT PALETTE THAT YOU SPOKE OF, I'LL CERTAINLY, UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, APPROVED BY THE COAST COMMISSION, SO IT'S SORT OF GOOD TO GO.
AND, AND IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE A TRANSITION TOWARDS DROUGHT TOLERANT.
THAT'S A HUGE STEP FORWARD IN OUR COMMUNAL PSYCHE.
SO NOW THE NEXT STEP FORWARD IS, IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT PLANTS THAT PROVIDE HABITAT AND YOU'LL SEE INTERESTING AND RARE BIRDS AND BUTTERFLIES AND THINGS THAT YOU WON'T GET IF YOU JUST PLANT A LINE OF AGAVE, EVEN THOUGH AGAVE OR DROUGHT TOLERANCE.
SO I'M JUST ALWAYS HERE TO SORT OF SPREAD THE WORD
I LIKE HER BECAUSE I PLANTED A BUNCH OF PLANTS THAT ARE, UH, I HAVE MORE BUTTERFLIES IN MY BACKYARD THAN I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE, SO IT'S REALLY KINDA
IT IS LIKE THAT MOVIE, IF YOU BUILD THEM, THEY WILL COME.
WHICH REMINDS ME ON YOUR, ON THE PRE-MEETING AT THE, UM, THE MARINA BEACH MAINTENANCE, YOU TALKED ABOUT 36TH PLACE.
DID YOU WANNA GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT? SURE.
UM, THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS RECENTLY, UM, COMPLETED.
UH, WE IDENTIFIED THAT AREA, UH, UH, 36TH PLACE AS, UH, AN AREA THAT NEEDED, UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, WORK.
UH, THAT WAS, UM, UH, A PROJECT THAT COULD USE SOME CLEANUP THERE AND, AND SOME, UH, LANDSCAPING.
AND, UM, SO THAT WAS JUST, UH, RECENTLY COMPLETED.
AND, UM, OLD, UH, LANDSCAPING WAS KIND OF CLEANED UP AND REMOVED.
NEW, UH, CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANTS WERE, UH, INSTALLED.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S MANY PLANTS AT ALL.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE RAIN HAS PUT 'EM ALL DOWN IN KIND OF THE BASE.
I SAW THAT YOU, YOU, I SENT YOU A PHOTO 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST LIKE, AM I MISSING? THERE'S NO PLANTS HERE.
UM, I CAN DEFINITELY, UH, DOUBLE CHECK, UM, TO SEE
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IF THEY ALL HAVE BEEN INSTALLED OR MAYBE THE RAIN PUT OFF SOME OF THAT LAST INSTALLATION, UM, PROJECT WITH THE NEW PLANTS.AND I KNOW IN THAT AREA, JA, JASON HAS THOSE HUGE AGAVES THAT THE HAVE BEEN PLANTED BY THE COMMUNITY IN THERE.
IS THERE ANY PLAN TO, TO REMOVE THOSE OR, I KNOW THAT'S IN THAT NEXT AREA, IN THE NEXT AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STEPS GOING DOWN TO THE BEACH.
UM, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I, I'LL, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
I, I CAN ALSO SAY THAT I WAS OUT AT THE BLUFF THIS MORNING AT 36 PLACE TO SEE WHAT THE LATEST WAS AS A RESULT OF THE, UM, LANDSCAPING PROJECT.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF THAT PROJECT? UM, JUST OVERALL, UH, CLEANUP OF THE AREA AND TO KIND OF BRING IT UP TO, UH, SCOPE WITH THE REST OF THE, THE BLUFF, UH, THE LOOK OF IT.
AND TO REMOVE SOME OF THE AREAS, UH, OVERGROWN, IT WAS, UM, THERE WAS SOME REMNANTS OF HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, UH, IN THERE.
SO I'LL ALSO TAKE PART IN THIS IS, UH, WE REMOVED A LOT OF NON DATED SPECIES.
UH, THAT AREA HAS BEEN LONG BEND.
IT'S THE STEPS TO EASTWARD OF EASTWARD OF THE STEPS ONTO 36 PLACE, UH, THAT THAT AREA HAD LONG BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER IT WAS CITY MAINTAINED OR NOT.
UH, WE FINALLY GOT DOWN, DRILLED DOWN INTO OUR CONTRACT AGREEMENTS AND CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT VIA THE CONTRACT AGREEMENTS THAT IT IS CITY, CITY, UH, WORK WHERE IT, FOR A VERY LONG TIME, IT HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OR SUPPOSEDLY TAKEN CARE OF BY THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT.
AND THAT ALLOWED FOR A LOT OF NON-NATIVE, UH, SPECIES TO GET INTO THAT LOCATION.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK INTO OUR FOLD.
WE REMOVED ALL THE NON-NATIVES AND THEN, UH, REPLACED WITH NATIVE SPECIES.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, JUST DID SOME BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND, UH, TOOK CARE OF SOME, SOME WEED ABATEMENT.
SO IT IS A LARGE MAINTENANCE ENDEAVOR, BUT OVER THE, THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE HOW WHEN IT GROWS IN, IT'S GONNA BE IN LINE WITH THE REST OF OUR BLUFF AND THE GUIDELINES FOR THE CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR BLUFF AREA.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THERE'S SOME ATTENTION TO IT.
'CAUSE I HAVE OFTEN TALKED TO YOU ABOUT SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE BLUFFS, HOW THEY SORT OF LOOK FROM BLOCK TO BLOCK OR AREA TO AREA AND HOW SOME JUST LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE LIKE ABANDONED.
LIKE NOTHING WAS DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE IT YET.
I MEAN, I, I DID SEE THE PICTURES AS WELL, AND I, I WOULD NOTE THAT IT DOESN'T, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PROBABLY SOME SORT OF NATURAL TEXTILE ON IT FOR EROSION CONTROL.
AND THEN WE ABATEMENT AND NOT MANY PLANTS.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW IF AT THE NEXT MEETING WHETHER WE SHOULD EXPECT MORE PLANTS OR WHETHER THE, THE RAIN PREVENTED THE INSTALLATION OF THE PLANTS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO HEAR.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, BRING FORWARD MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR AND THE WORK THAT'S, UH, DESIGNED AND, UM, SORT OF DEFINED UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, UH, CONTRACT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS OF LONG BEACH.
UM, THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR HAS SEVEN OR EIGHT AREAS UNDER THEIR CONTROL AND THEIR MAINTENANCE UNDER THE
UM, I SUGGEST IT MIGHT BE TIME TO HAVE CLOSER LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THOSE BLUFF FACES.
UM, IT HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
2015 WAS THE LAST TIME THE CITY ISSUED ANY KIND OF GUIDANCE DOCUMENT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BLUFF PARK SLOPES.
THEY ARE SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL HABITAT.
AND, UM, IT WAS QUITE A SHOCK FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME TO GO DOWN THERE IN DECEMBER AND SEE A COMPLETELY DESTROYED BLUFF.
NOW, REASONABLE PEOPLE WILL USE DIFFERENT WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE WORK THAT WAS CONDUCTED ON THAT BLUFF, BUT IT WAS A SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL HABITAT THAT, UM, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, I MEAN, IN CONTRAST TO THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE REST OF THE SLOPES AND THE BALANCE OF THE BL FACES, UM, THIS WAS A PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE WORD SENSITIVE WOULD'VE BEEN USED IN A DESCRIPTION OF THE WORK THAT WAS CONDUCTED.
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I SUSPECT A LOT OF WORK NEEDED TO BE DONE.UM, BUT THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO GUIDELINES THAT GO TO THE WORK THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHEN IT COMES TO A PROJECT OF THAT SIZE AND SCALE.
THERE IS MAINTENANCE DESCRIBED UNDER THE CONTRACT, BUT A COMPLETE REMOVAL OF 90% OF THE FOLIAGE ON THAT BLUFF AT THE TIME OF YEAR THAT WAS CHOSEN FOR THAT WORK WITHOUT 100% OF THE PLANT MATERIAL ON SITE AND READY TO GO INTO THE GROUND AT THE TIME THE WORK WAS PREPARED, THAT THE SURFACE WAS PREPARED WITHOUT MULCH BEING INSTALLED UNDER THE SURFACE OF THE JEW LANDSCAPING MATERIAL.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE HORIZONTAL TRENCHES THAT WERE, UM, IN, WELL CUT INTO THE BLUFF SURFACE.
UM, THERE ARE TRENCHES THAT ARE ROUGHLY 18 INCHES DEEP THAT RUN.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND ACROSS THE FACE OF THE BOAT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OR, UM, NOTION THAT THE, THAT THESE ARE DESIGNED FOR WATER CONTROL OR, OR WATER, UH, MOVEMENT, UM, IF THESE ARE INDEED BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT A, UH, GUIDANCE DOCUMENT WITH RESPECT TO MAINTENANCE ON THAT BLUFF COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS AND OFFER MORE INFORMATION, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS FOR THE CONTRACTOR MOVING AHEAD.
UM, AND IN THAT SORT OF VEIN, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE GET, UM, OR HOPE THAT WE COULD TAKE ACTION WITH RESPECT TO AN AGENDA THAT COULD GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
WAS IT, WHAT IS IT AZTEC OR AZTECA OR SOMETHING? WAS THAT THE IT'S THE WETLANDS STEWARD LEWIS WETLANDS STEWARD.
I'M JUST, I, WE, IF WE WANNA BE HEARD, WE YEAH.
UM, AND THEN, AND SO THEN THE, WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS, YOU JOGGED MY MEMORY GORDANA, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, BUT WHEN THE CITY, UM, HARDENED PART OF THOSE BLUFFS WITH SOME KIND OF CEMENT STUFF, BUT THEN THEY MADE POCKETS FOR THE PLANTS.
IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW THOSE PLANTS ARE DOING.
YOU KNOW, JUST THE HEALTH OF THE BLUFF IN GENERAL.
AND AS GUANA SAID, REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SORT OF HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OR REVIEW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS.
NOT, NOT TO GET ANYBODY, BUT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A IMPORTANT NATURAL RESOURCE FOR THE CITY TO ENJOY AND SO MANY VISITORS.
SO WE WANT IT TO BE IN TIP TOP CONDITION.
AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT IF YOU PULL A BUNCH OF PLANTS OUT AND YOU DON'T PUT DOWN ANY MULCH, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR NON-NATIVES BACK AND HAVE TO PULL 'EM BACK OUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST WANNA BE ON TOP OF ALL THAT.
IT'S SUCH A SPECIAL AREA OF LONG BEACH.
A HISTORIC AREA AND A NATURAL IMPORTANT NATURAL.
YOU FORGET WHEN AND YOU GO OUT THERE AGAIN.
HOW ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS OUR CITY IS.
EVERYTHING LOOKS, WE SHOULD HAVE A FIELD TRIP TO THE BLOOD.
BROWN AG PROBABLY WHEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, IF WE ALL WENT OUT THERE SEPARATELY, YOU JUST GOTTA GO SEPARATE IN SMALL GROUPS.
CAN YOU ADD ONE MORE THING? AND I THINK FOR EVERYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE, SO I DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT AND I CAN JUST LIKE, GO OVER MY, UH, THE TONNAGE THAT YOU ALL PICKED UP, THE 180 8, WAS IT AFTER THE STORM? UH, YEAH, THAT WAS JUST 66 TONS.
UH, JUST OUR WORK YESTERDAY, UH, THE SEVENTH, UM, WE STARTED REMOVING, UH, TONNAGE FROM WEST BEACH AND IT WAS 166 TONS, UH, JUST YESTERDAY.
WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
TELL ME HOW MUCH SPACE THAT TOOK UP.
UM, SO WE, OUR, OUR TRUCKS ARE 10 YARDS, UM, HEAVY, HEAVY MATERIAL LIKE SAND.
COULD BE 10 TONS IN THERE, BUT WITH DEBRIS.
UM, WE'RE PROBABLY AVERAGING MAYBE FIVE TO SIX TONS, UM, PER TRUCKLOAD.
UM, SO, UH, YEAH, WE'RE RUNNING, YOU KNOW, 30, 40 TRUCK LOADS.
WE HAVE THREE TRUCKS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO USE OUT ON THE BEACH THAT ARE, UM, HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRIVE ON THE SAND AND REMOVE THAT DEBRIS.
UM, SO YEAH, I DO THE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MAP.
UH, BUT WE'LL BE CONTINUING THAT.
YOU GATHER IT ALL, UM, GATHER THE HEAVY MATERIAL AND REMOVE THAT FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL BE GRAB, GATHERING THE SMALL MATERIAL AND
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SEPARATING THE SAND OUT OF THAT.HOW ARE, UH, WITH DIFFERENT MACHINES? UH, SO IT, THE LATER PART OF THE PROJECT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE IT ALL OFF OF THE, THE BEACH FRONT, UH, FAIRLY SOON.
DO, DO WE, DO WE LEAVE IT PILED OR DRY? THE HEAVIER STUFF OR THE BIG STUFF OR THE, UM, AT DIFFERENT PERIODS? UH, THAT HAS BEEN, UM, PART OF THE PRACTICE.
UM, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, DEBRIS DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WE CAN REALLY REMOVE IT FROM, UH, THE BEACH FRONT.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, IT'S A LOT OF, UH, THERE, IT IS VERY MIXED IN, BUT A LOT OF THE MATERIAL WE'RE SEEING WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT QUICKLY OFF THE BEACH.
UH, UH, THE OTHER MATERIAL WILL BE TAKEN BACK TO OUR FACILITY.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE IT WILL STAY FOR A, A, A PERIOD, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE SAND FROM IT WITH DIFFERENT MACHINES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR AN AGENDA ITEM NEXT MONTH WITH RESPECT TO THE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES ON THE BLUFF AND TO, UM, GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT WITH THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT.
WHAT WAS, AND THANK YOU, UM, APPRECIATE.
I HAVE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE, UM, PARK SHARK AND MARINE IN THE FUTURE WITH RESPECT TO THIS CONTRACT.
UM, THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT FOR THE BLUFF, AGAIN, IS GOING ON 10 YEARS.
UH, IT WAS DESIGNED AND SORT OF CREATED AT THE TIME THE SHOP CREEK PROJECT WAS CONDUCTED AND COMPLETED ON THE FLUFFS.
UM, WITH THE HOPE THAT THAT KIND OF PROJECT AND THAT SCALE WOULD NEVER, EVER BE NEEDED AGAIN IN LONG BEACH.
UM, AND, UM, IT MAY NOT BE DETAILED ENOUGH TO HELP PREVENT A PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE AND SCALE TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
UM, OR HELP BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT THERE MIGHT BE, UM, MORE EFFECTIVE WAYS TO DEAL WITH OUR SENSITIVE COASTAL LOVE HABITAT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
WE'RE AT 90, UH, 94% OCCUPANCY.
USUALLY THE MONTH OF JANUARY, JANUARY WE SEE MORE CANCELLATIONS THAN WE DO NEW PERMITS, BUT THIS JANUARY WE SAW, UH, 26 CANCELLATIONS AND 40 NEW PERMITS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY HEALTHY ON OUR, UH, OCCUPANCY.
UH, WE HAD A, FOR THE AMOUNT OF RAIN WE HAD, WE HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.
WE HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY THANK OUR PERMITS AND OUR BOATERS.
UH, WE SENT OUT AN EMAIL BLAST TO EVERYBODY LAST WEEK JUST SAYING, HEY, UH, VISIT YOUR BOAT, CHECK YOUR, CHECK YOUR SCOFFERS.
TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BUILD CHECK YOUR BUILD PUMP, MAKE SURE IT'S OPERATIONAL.
UH, WE ONLY HAD TWO VESSELS GO UNDERWATER.
THOSE VESSELS ACTUALLY WENT UNDERWATER ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
THEY DIDN'T GO UNDERWATER FOR THE REST OF THE WEEKEND.
UH, OUR MARINE SAFETY ELEMENT WAS OUT THERE THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, PUMPING OUT BOATS WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY NEEDED TO.
OUR STAFF WAS DOING IT AS WELL.
BUT, UH, THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE WEEKEND AND THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF THIS WEEK, UH, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE UNDERWATER VESSELS TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY LUCKY, KNOCK ON WOOD THAT, UH, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
BUT THAT WAS, UH, VERY, VERY, UH, UM, UH, AWESOME OF OUR BOATERS TO GO OUT AND CHECK THEIR VESSELS.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, IT IS LOOKING GOOD.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OPERATION? YEAH.
UM, ON YOUR JANUARY NEW FOLKS, UH, IS THERE A MIX OF SMALL AND LARGE BOATS? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING A TREND TOWARDS? UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST UP AND DOWN.
UM, WE ARE GETTING A, A GOOD TREND OF LARGER BOAT STUFF.
UH, WE ARE SEEING MORE AVAILABILITY IN OUR 30 AND OUR 30 FIVES.
SO, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO KIND OF PUSH HARD HERE COMING INTO THE SPRING, DO A LITTLE BIT OF MARKETING AND, UH, GET THOSE 30 AND 30 FIVES FILLED, BUT FORTIES AND UP.
SO HOW'S THE TREES IN THE BAY STUFF COMING ALONG? UH, AGAIN, UH, WITH THE, THE FINISH OF THE, THE ITEMS WITH, UH, UH, COREY'S GROUP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU GUYS A PRESENTATION NEXT MONTH.
UM, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT COSTS TO PUT OUT THE TREES AND BRING 'EM BACK IN.
AND THEN ALSO WITH THE, THE QUOTES FOR SERVICE FOR, UH, TRANSITIONING TO SOLAR, WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT A, A TRANSITION EACH TREE COST WILL BE.
SO WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD NUMBERS FOR YOU NEXT MONTH OF, OKAY.
THIS IS, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING.
WE CAN RAISE MONEY IN THE SUMMERTIME THEN FOR, UH, THE TREES, CHRISTMAS AND JULY CAMPAIGN,
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JULY, CHRISTMAS AND JULY.SO, UH, YEAH, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A GOOD PRESENTATION FOR YOU ON NUMBERS FOR TREES IN THE BAY NEXT MONTH.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, HEARING NONE, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS SECOND.
THE OPPOSED, UH, ANY ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THE COMMENTS UNLESS EXTENDED BY THE CHAIR.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS CHAIR MIGHT WANT DO COMMITTEES NUMBER NUMBER FIVE? WE DID KIND OF, WASN'T THAT IT WITH THE, OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M, I'M WORKING OFF OF MY ONE THAT I MARKED UP AND I WROTE ALL OVER NUMBER FIVE.
UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE, UH, COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS.
UM, I CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH THAT.
UM, SO WE HAD THE, UH, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING AND, UM, WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING TODAY IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR, UH, EXECUTIVE MEETING.
THAT'S WHY WE REALLY ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA YES.
OR IF YOU WANT A SPECIFIC FIELD TRIP OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT A SITE.
PLEASE LET US KNOW WHEN WE GET THAT EMAIL BLAST THAT COMES OUT ASKING FOR AGENDA ITEMS. AND, AND THANK YOU BECAUSE COMMISSIONER UH, MARINO HAD HAD DISCUSSED OR SUGGESTED, UM, FIELD TRIPS, UH, BEFORE THE, UH, ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BLUFFS.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, AND TODD, EVEN A RESULT TALKED ABOUT A TIME ON HIS CALENDAR ON FRIDAYS.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE INTERESTED IN? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE WAY THAT TODD FEEDS THE NUMBER, WE GOTTA DO THREE TRIPS.
WE, WE'D BE LIMITED TO, TO, UH, FOUR PEOPLE GOING AT A TIME.
AND THEN, UM, I GUESS WE COULD WORK WITH TAMLIN AS TO SCHEDULING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK JOE AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO DURING OUR NEXT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
THAT WOULD AT LEAST NOT BE TOO MUCH OF AN EXTRA BURDEN ON STAFF NOTES.
ADDITIONAL TIME NOTES DON'T MAKE ME CHEW UP
SO, UM, MAYBE WITH SOME PROPOSED OPPORTUNITIES OR DATES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR DUAL POLLS OR SOMETHING, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT JOE, YOU AND I ALREADY HAVE THAT TIME SORT OF RESERVED.
I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT TODD, I MEAN, I'VE GONE OUT AND, AND WALKED THE JETTIES WITH THE TEAMS AND YEAH.
GONE OUT AND IT JUST MAKE A PHONE CALL.
YOU CALL IN THE MORNING TIME IF THERE'S OPENING, THEY, THEY, THEY PUT YOU RIGHT OUT.
I AGAIN,
I KNOW WHEN WE WERE FIRST PUTTING IN THE PONY GATES, I DIDN'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT TO 'EM, UHHUH AND, UM, TODD WALKED ME THROUGH AND I UNDERSTOOD A WHOLE LOT BETTER.
SO SOMETIME IT'S JUST A, A 15 MINUTE WALK.
AND IN, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT CHAIR, I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT POTENTIALLY, UM, THE, THE COMMISSIONERS COULD BE, UM, PREPARED WITH A COPY OF THE 2015 BLUFF, UM, MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS PREPARED FOR THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, SERVICES FOR MAINTENANCE.
SO YOU HAVE A SORT OF A BACKGROUNDER ON WHAT THE WORK, UM, IS DEFINED CURRENTLY AND TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S 30 PAGES OR SOMETHING, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS JUST A COUPLE OF CHUNKS.
AND THERE'S PRETTY PICTURES TOO.
ABOUT SCHEDULING SOMETHING HOPEFULLY IN PAIRS, BUT NO MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE.
UM, THE MARINE AND BEACH MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, WE, UH, HAD OUR MEETING TODAY AND WE'VE REVIEWED EVERYTHING, UH, THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEAK OF.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S MY NAME ON HERE.
I DIDN'T THINK I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY EXTENSIONS, UH, THAT HAS PASSED? UH, THANK YOU.
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THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS UNLESS SENT BY THE CHAIR.ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? HEARING NONE? UH, WE DO HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UH, THE COMMITTEE MEETING REMINDERS.
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE'S MARCH 7TH AT NINE 30 AT THE, UH, A MB OFFICE, ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT.
UM, AN OFFSITE, OFFSITE FIELD TRIP.
UM, THE TIDE LANDS CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMITTEE, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER MCRAY, CARLIN AND ATKINS IS THURSDAY, MARCH 14TH, ONE 30 TO TWO 15 HERE.
AND OUR NEXT MEETING OF THE MAC IS THURSDAY, THE 14TH OF MARCH, UH, 2:30 PM AT LONG BEACH.
AM I, I THINK I'M ON THE TIMELINES COMMITTEE.
DID HE SAY CA I DON'T THINK I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE.
I HEARD MY NAME, BUT I, I THINK I'M ONLY ON THE ONE I MET TODAY.
I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON WHICH I'M SUPPOSED TO BE ON BECAUSE I I'M ON THE MAINTENANCE ONE.
WHAT'S THE, THE TIDELAND ONE IS THE, YEAH, WELL WE CAN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLEAR THIS UP.
TIDELANDS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER LAMB.
UH, COMMISSIONER MURRAY AND COMMISSIONER ZALLA.
IT WAS CORRECT IN WHAT WAS SENT AROUND 'CAUSE I WAS JACK.
AND WHAT IS THE, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE DATE? MARCH.
IT'S JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING.
I'M GONNA, UH, ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND I'M NOT SKIPPING ANYTHING, RIGHT? NOPE.
SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW I GET A CALL WHILE I'M IN HERE FROM SOMEONE I HAVEN'T TALKED TO SINCE GREAT SCHOOL.
THEY GOT MY NUMBER AND SHE'S MISSING HER CELL PHONE THAT THE DRIVER DIDN'T DELIVER.
SO WE, THE DRIVER GOING BACK TO
SO THERE WERE SEVERAL, I THINK WHAT DECEMBER WE, WE SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER 2ND, MY DAUGHTER AND I ARE STARTING OUR PODCAST.
WE'RE JUST GONNA JUST TALK ABOUT ALL ISSUES, FATHER DAUGHTER ISSUES FROM SNEAKING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO YOU NAME IT.
WE'RE JUST GONNA SEE YOU, SIR.
AND THEN IT JUST SEEMS GONNA BE FUN.
SHE'S MET A COUPLE PRESIDENTS WITH ME.
I'VE TAKEN HER TO DIFFERENT STUFF.
AND, UH, WE HAVE TOTALLY NIGHT AND DAY BELIEFS ON, ON POLITICS.
AND THAT IS GONNA BE INTERESTING WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
BUT YOU CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT IT'S MY DAUGHTER, SO WE CAN'T GET MAD AT EACH OTHER.
ALSO, I MEAN, NOW EVERYBODY JUST BRINGS UP POLITICS ALL THE TIME.
LIKE, I'M FRIENDS, I HAVE ADOPTED CHILDREN, SO I HAVE FRIENDS, KIND OF ADOPTED CHILDREN.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON.
WE TALK ABOUT OUR KIDS AND EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT POLITICS ALL THE TIME.
IT'S LIKE A CHANGE, I THINK MAYBE 'CAUSE OF ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA PERHAPS I'M GONNA BE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ENOUGH FROM WHAT ARE THE PROJECT.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT, I'M NOT HIS.
HOW, HOW DID THEY SOUND? YES, SHE, SHE JUST GOT RELEASED.