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RYAN LIN HERE.UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE AGENDA, UH, I WILL DO, UH, A CHAIR'S REPORT, UH, AND GO OVER SOME ITEMS. UM, THE QUEEN TEAM, RFP, THIS IS, UH, CONSERVATION CORPS.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO IZE THIS FOR MARCH FORMALLY.
UM, BUT THE COMMISSION, UH, UH, HAS, UH, LEARNED SOME THINGS ABOUT THE SCOPE OF SERVICE.
UH, AND MOREOVER, UH, THE, THE TOTAL COST OF WHAT CONSERVATION CORPS PROVIDES.
UM, THEY, THE, THE ONLY WORD I CAN REALLY ATTACH TO THIS IS IF THEY SUBSIDIZE WHAT THEY DO, UH, MEANING THEY ADD EXTRA SERVICES AND IT'S NOT BUILT.
UH, AND THAT'S A RELATIONSHIP, UH, THAT IS PURELY DUE TO RELATIONSHIP WITH YEARS WORTH OF, OF SERVICE, UH, WHAT THEY DO FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
UH, THE REASON I MENTION THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A, A NUMBER AND IN ACTUALITY, IF WE GO TO BID AND TRY TO MATCH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WITH ANOTHER COMPANY, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE SURPRISED THAT IT'S GONNA COST, UH, MARKEDLY MORE, UH, TO DO WHAT THEY DO.
SO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, ULTIMATELY IS GONNA BE, UH, LIKELY TO REMAIN WITH CONSERVATION CORPS, UM, WHICH IS FINE ON, ON THE BASE OF IT, AND CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM AND BE AGGRESSIVE WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THE SERVICES, UH, AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THOSE SERVICES AS TIME GOES ON THROUGH COMMUNICATION AND ATTENTION.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA AGENDA THAT AFTER MARCH.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN DEPTH, UH, AT THAT, AT THAT TIME.
UH, THE GATEWAY SIGN, WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS FRUITION ON THAT.
UH, DESIGN WISE, UH, WE HAVE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE THAT'S DEALING WITH THAT, THE LAST, UH, DECISION PROCESS.
UM, UH, ONLY ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, WEIGHED IN ON THAT, UH, 'CAUSE THE OTHER TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE, UM, AWAY AND COULDN'T.
SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, TRACK THAT, UH, A LITTLE LATER THIS MORNING.
AND HOPEFULLY BY MARCH, UH, WE CAN HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO LET GO, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION TO, UH, UH, FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT TIMING AND WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE COMPLETE.
I, I'M STILL GONNA HOLD, UH, AND I'M GONNA GIVE A QUICK GLANCE THAT WE CAN GET THIS THING THE GROUND PRETTY QUICK.
UM, SO THAT'S THE SIGN UPDATE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT OPTICS REAL QUICK.
UM, THE, THE, THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCED, UH, AN EVENT LAST SATURDAY NIGHT.
UH, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM UNDERSTANDS AND KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED.
UM, AS UNFORTUNATE AS THAT EVENT IS, UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA BE GLIB, UH, ABOUT IT, BUT THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN.
UM, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, HAS ROUGHLY THE SAME POPULATION AS THE CITY OF ATLANTA.
AND THE CITY OF LONG BEACH HAS A POPULATION THAT'S GREATER THAN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
UH, THE, THE, THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS TO, PALM BEACH IS A BIG CITY, AND WE HAVE BIG CITY CHALLENGES.
AND, UH, HOW THAT AFFECTS THIS COMMISSION, UH, IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE'RE AHEAD OF THE, WE'RE AHEAD OF IT, AND WE'VE BEEN AHEAD OF IT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.
UH, WE DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO AS A COMMISSION, UH, TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT WE DO WAS ALREADY THE CHALLENGE.
AND WE WANTED TO, UH, MEET THAT CHALLENGE AND GREATER CHALLENGES BY ADDING PRIVATE SECURITY, UH, TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE CONTROL.
UH, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL PATH TO HIRE PRIVATE SECURITY.
SO EVEN BEFORE, UH, SATURDAY AS A VET, UH, IN MEETING WITH SOME RESIDENTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DO BECAUSE WE'RE BUSINESS OPERATORS AND RESIDENTS OURSELVES.
UM, BUT PART OF IT IS A DIRECT
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RESPONSE TO, UH, SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS TO, UH, CHANGE SECURITY.SO I HAVE ASKED, UH, AND I ASKED AHEAD OF THIS MEETING.
UH, WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT, UH, TO EXPAND SECURITY OPERATIONS, UH, IN TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, SPECIFICALLY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY EVENINGS.
UM, TO MITIGATE THE FLUSH OUT OF SOME OF THE BARS THAT TYPICALLY START REMOVING CUSTOMERS AT ABOUT ONE 20 TO ONE 30.
UH, I WANT SECURITY TO BEGIN, UH, A SHIFT AT 1230, UH, TO HELP DISPERSING PATRONS FROM BARS, UH, GET 'EM OUT OF PARKING LOTS SO THEY DON'T CONGREGATE IN PARKING LOTS SO THAT THEY DON'T PARTY PAST 2, 2 30.
UH, KEEP THEM QUIET, KEEP THEM MOVING, GET THEM TO THEIR CARS, UH, AND HELP, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DISPERSE THIS CROWD.
THAT'S THE EXTRA HOURS ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY EVENINGS, THE OTHER FIVE DAYS OF THE WEEK.
SO A TOTAL OF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UH, I'VE ASKED FOR, UH, AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY PATROL, UH, IN THE SHORE FROM 2:00 AM TO 6:00 AM, UH, IN A MARKED CAR, UH, WITH A LIGHT BAR, UH, AND SIDE LIGHTS, UH, THAT CAN CONTROL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AT THOSE EARLY MORNING HOURS, UH, TO HELP DETER, UH, SMASH AND GRABS BUSINESS, BREAK-INS, UH, CARS THROUGH WALLS, UH, BROKEN FRONT DOORS, UH, THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, IS IT THE POLICE DOING IT? NO.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY'RE GREAT.
THIS IS AN AUGMENTATION TO IT.
IT'S THE OPTICS, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S A VISUAL DETERRENT.
UM, THEY'LL MAKE THESE ROUNDS SPECIFICALLY ON SECOND STREET THROUGH ALLEYS, WITH THE WINDOWS OF THOSE CARS DOWN SO THEY CAN HEAR, UH, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CONTACT PD IMMEDIATELY.
UH, HOPEFULLY THESE PETTY THIEVES THAT, UH, BREAK INTO STORES, UH, WILL SEE THIS ADDED SECURITY AND FIGURE THAT THIS IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO WHAT THEY DO.
UM, OF THE FOUR OR FIVE BREAK INS THAT OCCURRED A WEEK PAST, NOT THIS LAST WEEK, BUT THE PREVIOUS WEEK, THAT SUSPECT WAS APPREHENDED BY PD.
UH, HE WAS A SAN PEDRO RESIDENT.
UH, HE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE BREAK-INS, BUT HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR FOUR OR FIVE ON ONE EVENING.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT, BUT THE THREAT IS STILL THERE.
AND THIS, UH, PROACTIVE APPROACH TO IT THAT THIS COMMISSION IS TAKING, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED, WE PUT IN MOTION MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO.
UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT I WANT TO PROPOSE TO THE COMMISSION, WE'RE GONNA ANIZE IT FOR MARCH.
UH, BUT IT'S ALREADY, UH, BEEN DISCUSSED AT CITY LEVEL, UH, AND, UH, AFFORDABILITY WISE, UH, IS TO INCREASE THE SERVICES OF BOTH CONSERVATION CORPS AND SPECTRUM, AGAIN, AS A QUALITY OF LIFE ADDITION FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON STREETS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY, UH, HIGH VOLUME HOSPITALITY.
UH, SO THOSE SPOKE STREETS, UH, THE SIDE STREETS THAT ARE AFFECTED MOSTLY BY HIGH VOLUME HOSPITALITY, UH, WILL BE SERVICED ADDITIONALLY BY SPECTRUM AND CONSERVATION CORN, UH, SPECTRUM PERIODICALLY WITH STEAM CLEANING TO HELP MITIGATE ODORS AND STAINS, UH, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND BY SOME PATRONS, BUT ALSO DOGS AND, AND WHATNOT.
AND CONSERVATION CORPS ON A DAILY BASIS TO HELP PICK UP GARBAGE, UH, EMPTY BEER BOTTLES OR, UH, BODILY MISHAPS THAT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED THE NIGHT BEFORE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH ALL OF, UH, THOSE HIGH VOLUME HOSPITALITY LOCATIONS, UH, TO ONCE AGAIN RENEW THEIR EFFORTS, UH, TO DO A SWEEP OF THEIR IMMEDIATE, UH, SURROUNDINGS BEFORE THEY LEAVE AT NIGHT TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE LEFT BEHIND ITEMS. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES THAT ADDITIONALLY STAY OPEN LATE.
UM, SOME RESTAURANTS, UH, THAT SEEM TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE GARBAGE AND THE NOISE.
UH, AND THOSE MANAGEMENT TEAMS AND, UH, OWNERS, UM, UH, HAVE BEEN GIVEN QUITE A STERN MANDATE, UH, ON DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING THAT THESE, UH,
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HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES ARE, ARE ASKED TO DO FOR THE RESIDENTS.SO THESE ARE SOME VERY AGGRESSIVE, UH, STEPS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN, UH, IN, IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO RESIDENTS CONCERNS, UH, PDS, CONCERNS, CITY'S CONCERNS, MY CONCERNS, YOUR CONCERNS.
AND THESE ARE QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE IN, UH, THAT WILL HELP MAKE, UH, EVERYBODY'S, UH, LIFE BETTER IN THE SHORE.
SO, UH, THAT I'M, I'M RELEASING THAT INFORMATION AS A, AS A, AS A CHAIR'S REPORT, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION IS WORKING ON.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE PAY FOR, UH, WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
UH, AND, AND I THINK, UM, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORTHY, UH, PROJECTS, UH, TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, ITEM GLASS FOR CHAIR IS, UH, THE BIG BELLIES, UH, THAT WE ORDERED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, UH, ARE BEING, UH, SHIPPED TO THE PARENT COMPANY, WHICH IS WAXY.
UH, UM, THEY NEED TO CHECK THOSE UNITS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE OPERATIONAL AND WONDERFUL, AND THEN THEY'LL DEPLOY THEM INTO THE SHORE, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UH, ONCE THOSE UNITS ARE DEPLOYED, THOSE NICE, SHINY BRAND NEW UNITS, UH, WE'RE IMMEDIATELY GONNA ORDER 12 OR 18 MORE.
UH, SO HOPEFULLY BY SPRING, UM, ALL OF THE DILAPIDATED UNITS WILL BE GONE, UH, AND NEW UNITS WILL BE DROPPED IN PLACE.
AND IF YOU SMILE ANY HARDER, YOUR NOSE IS GONNA FALL OFF.
UM, SO THAT'S THE CHAIR'S REPORT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, ITEM ONE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE BELMONT SHORT PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA MEETING OF THURSDAY, JANUARY 13TH, 18TH RATHER.
EXCUSE ME, 2020 RECOMMENDATION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
RECEIVE AND FILE A FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JANUARY 31ST, 2024.
AND WE'LL, LAST CITY STAFF FOR THAT REPORT, PLEASE.
SO FOR REVENUE FOR JANUARY, IT WAS UP 3% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR WITH YEAR TO DATE REVENUE ALSO UP 7%, UH, VERSUS, UH, THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE AS OF JANUARY 31ST IS 426,181 WITH 37 CENTS.
UH, SIR, HAS THE BOND PAYMENT FOR IT WAS DONE LAST YEAR, WHAT MONTH? IT IS, IT IS ALWAYS DONE IN THE, THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
SO THE ONE FOR 2024, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID, YEAH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
THAT WILL NOT BE MADE AGAIN UNTIL, UNTIL, UH, THIS OCTOBER, WHICH WILL BE OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR OF 2025.
UM, AND THAT BOND PAYMENT, JUST TO REMIND, IT'S $200,200,000 TAKEN OUT ANNUALLY, AND THAT RUNS THROUGH 2034, I BELIEVE.
SO I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE ACTUAL DATE, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S FROM PEN UNTIL 2034.
WE'LL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT AND IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS.
UM, IT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS, UH, THE COMMISSION ALWAYS HAS AGENDAS, UM, BUT MORE INFORMATION WOULD BE ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON, I'LL MAKE A, A MOTION TO, UH, RECEIVE A FILE.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY SAY IT IS APPALLING THAT THE STANDARDS
BEFORE YOU GO, COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? BRIAN
I JUST WANT TO NOTE ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS, THAT IS APPALLING THAT THE RIDE USERSHIP OF 86 PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH HUNDREDS OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORK ON SECOND STREET, AND THAT LEGENDS THAT JUST GOT A NEW PARKWAY BY THE CITY FOR NOTHING, DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE EMPLOYEE USING THE BUS PROGRAM, BUT YET COUNTS IN HIS PRESENTATIONS, THAT IT HAS A, A ROBUST PROGRAM THAT WILL MITIGATE TRAFFIC IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO JUST WANT PUT THAT ON RECORD.
THIS WOULD BE THE NEXT, YEAH, THIS IS, THAT'S ITEM NEXT, MR. COCHRAN.
UM, BUT DULY NOTED, UH, ACTUALLY I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE, ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT? UM, OKAY.
ITEM THREE IS THE RECOMMENDATION YOU
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FILE ALONG THESE TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM.UH, YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT IN THE PACKET, UH, RIGHT AFTER, UH, THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
UM, THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, UH, AT SPECIFICALLY LEGENDS, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE, UH, NOT HERE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, I WANT TO GET WITH, UH, UH, HEATHER ON THIS AND ASK IF WE'VE EVER, UH, HAD ANY ISSUES OR HAD EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WHAT I LEARNED WAS THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, EMPLOYEES INTO THE TEENS THAT AVAIL THEMSELVES ON A BUS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, NOW IF THEY'RE USING THE BUS AND PAYING FOR IT, UH, TERRIFIC.
UH, IF THEY HAVE BUS PASSES AND FOR SOME REASON IT'S AN ANOMALY IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY'RE NOT TRACKED, WHICH MIGHT BE POSSIBLE, WHO KNOWS? UH, BUT, UH, NEARLY EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT, THAT, UH, I HAVE, UH, ACCORDING TO, UH, MY, UH, MANAGEMENT THAT TAKES CARE OF THOSE FOLKS IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, MEANING THE KITCHEN, UM, THERE'S ONLY TWO OF 'EM, UH, THAT DRIVE A CAR.
UH, THE REST OF 'EM, UH, TAKE THE BUS EVERY DAY.
UH, AND THEN I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF, UH, FRONT HOUSE STAFF THAT, THAT ACTUALLY TAKE, UH, THE BUS ALSO.
UH, THE ONLY THING I CAN SURMISE IS THAT MAYBE THERE, THERE'S A GLITCH IN REPORTING, UH, AND SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT I HAVE, HAVE A BUS PASS, I'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND, I PROMISE.
UM, LIKE WE SAY, EVERYBODY'S SITTING AT THIS TABLE.
AS WONDERFUL AS THIS PROGRAM IS, UH, I THINK IT'S ALSO INCUMBENT ON THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT ON THIS PROGRAM.
UM, I, I CAN ASK THE, THE, THE MEDIA TO DO A STORY ON IT AS, AS BORING AS IT SOUNDS TO THEM.
UM, I, I, I'M GONNA CERTAINLY, UH, ELICIT HEATHER IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, FOLKS, THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.
BUT YOU, YOU CAN LEAVE A HORSE TO WATER, BUT I, NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THE HORSE DRINK.
UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOOD FOR PARKING, BUT, AND I'M GONNA LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE.
WE'VE TRIED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
UM, SO I'M GONNA, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO FILE.
HEATHER BEL MAHO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BEL MAHO BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
I DID PERSONALLY SIGN UP AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE AT LEGENDS THIS PAST MONTH.
I THINK THESE REPORTS ARE LIKE A MONTH OLD, I THINK IT IS REFLECTING JANUARY, NOT FEBRUARY.
SO THEY ALL HAPPENED IN FEBRUARY, AND I ALSO ADDED AN ONLINE, UM, FORM ON OUR WEBSITE FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE.
AND THE MEMBERS CAN SIGN PEOPLE UP THAT WAY TO MAKE IT EASIER.
UM, THERE IS JUST ONE LITTLE GLITCH ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS THAT I GET THE CARD OR I ACTIVATE THE APP.
THEY HAVE TWO WEEKS TO USE IT TO GET IT ACTIVATED, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T.
OR, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER I HAND THE CARDS TO DOESN'T TELL 'EM THAT.
BUT I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE RIDERSHIP, EVEN THOUGH THE 86 DOESN'T SOUND GREAT, WHEN I LOOK AT HOW MANY RIDES THERE ARE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, USING THE BUS.
AND I'VE SIGNED UP 70 NEW PEOPLE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
THE, THE, THE DISPARITY AND, AND WHAT ADDS TO THE, UM, JUST THE, THE, THE, THE VIEWPOINT THAT, UM, IT'S IMBALANCED OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE? UH, THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM IS, UH, I CAN'T WAIT.
UH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM, UH, TO GROW THIS, UM, MR. COCHRANE, UH, IF YOU HAVE A WAY THAT WE CAN, UH, ELICIT MORE, UH, PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY, LET'S FIND A WAY.
LET'S FIND A WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT TOGETHER.
GET THE, THE NEWSPAPERS TO WRITE STORIES.
GO TO THE BSBA OR THE THE BSRA OR THE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION AND PUSH IT MORE.
VISIT EVERY STORE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS PASSIONATELY AS YOU COME HERE AND DISCUSS IT, TAKE THAT
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PASSION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LET'S TRY TOGETHER TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO USE THE BUS PASS PROGRAM.SINCE YOU REMIND US, THIS IS NOT A DIALOGUE, IT'S NOT A DIALOGUE, I'M JUST ADDING SOMETHING.
I'M JUST ADDING SOMETHING JUST TO THINK ABOUT.
ME PERSONALLY, I'M DIRECTING IT.
EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, LET'S ALL TRY TO SPREAD THE WORD ON THE BUS PASS PROGRAM AND GET MORE RIDERS, BECAUSE IT'S GREAT FOR ALL OF US TO USE IT.
I HAVE BEEN GOING INTO BUSINESSES LIKE COLD CALLING WITH CARDS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE HERE.
I DO THAT ON FRIDAY WHEN I HAVE HELP.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN DO IS STAND AT BUS STOPS AND LOOK, IT'S INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO TRY HARDER TO GET PEOPLE TO USE THIS PROGRAM.
IF, IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF HANDOUT.
MOST, MOST, UH, RESTAURANTS, I'M WAITING, I'M WAITING FOR AN UPDATED PRINTOUT, LIKE A THING FROM TRANSIT.
I DON'T HAVE A, I IDEALLY WE GET ONE WITH THE QR CODE.
WE HAVE, MOST RESTAURANTS HAVE EMPLOYEE BREAK AREAS.
THAT'S HOW WE AS RESTAURATEURS.
I'M JUST WAITING ON ONE, BUT WE CAN PUT IT UP, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST HAND 'EM OUT.
ENGLISH, SPANISH IDEALLY SHOULD BE A VERY SIMPLE THING TO DO.
UH, CHERYL SWAY, BUSINESS OWNER, SECOND STREET, URBAN EVENING.
AND I PERSONALLY DON'T USE QR CODE.
AND I THINK THAT HAVING AN OLD SCHOOL SIGN THAT SAID, DID YOU KNOW THE BUS COULD TAKE YOU HERE, HERE, AND HERE, SOMETHING THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, LOOKING AT THE BUS STOPS, MAYBE JUST A LITTLE SIGN INDICATING THAT THEY COULD TAKE THE BUS TO DOWNTOWN.
IT'S ONLY A DOLLAR 25 OR WHATEVER.
JUST GIVING AN ACTUAL OUTLINE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN SECOND STREET FOR HER STAFF.
WELL, JUST AS AN INCENTIVE TO USE THE BUS PERIOD.
BECAUSE I'VE LIVED HERE 20 PLUS YEARS IN SHORE AND I'VE RIDDEN THE BUS TWICE.
AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO GO TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND IT WAS EASIER THAN TRYING TO PARK AND YADA YADA.
BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE HAVING IT BE AN OLD SCHOOL LITTLE SIGN AT THE BUS STOP SAYING YOU CAN TAKE THE BUS HERE.
AND MAYBE HAVING ROUTES SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER SIMPLE AND VISUAL MIGHT BE AN INCENTIVE FOR JUST THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE THE BUS SYSTEMS MORE AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS GROUND.
PLACE YOU AND DO NOTED, UM, PLEASE.
RESIDENTS CAN SAY THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUSINESSES AND THE BSBA AND THE PARKING COMMISSION, AND THEY NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND CREATE SOME KIND OF PLAN AND IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.
WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, WORK WITH HEATHER, GET THE DOCUMENTATION, MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE SEES IT, TALK TO 'EM, INCENTIVIZE 'EM, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO.
THIS SHOULD BE HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKLETS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS, I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JODY? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY.
SO ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE PARKLETS THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY COMING AND EVERY SINGLE AT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION MEETINGS AT THE PARKING, OR SORRY, THE, UH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
IT IS DRAGGED OUT THAT THIS EXISTS AND IT'S BEING UTILIZED.
AND IT'S NOT 86 STAFF MEMBERS OUT ALL OF THE FREAKING STAFF MEMBERS.
I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.
WE DO HAVE 368 PEOPLE SIGNED UP, SO I GET THAT.
BUT, UM, IT'S JUST FOR THE MONTH OF JAN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS, IS LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OVER TIME AND THEY'RE NOT GREAT.
AND IF YOU FIGURE OUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THERE ARE ON THE STREET AND GET DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF DAYS SOMEONE WORKS ON AVERAGE OF A WEEK IS NOTHING.
IS THERE LIKE A SPACE WHERE THE EMPLOYEES CAN COLLECTIVELY GO PARK AND CATCH THE BUS TO SECOND STREET? WE'RE NOT, WE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST HEARING, THANK YOU.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO VISIT THIS.
I KNOW MATT DOESN'T NEED ME TO FIGHT HIS BATTLES.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT NO ONE HAS CHAMPIONED THIS PROGRAM MORE THAN HE HAS OVER ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION.
AND I DO BELIEVE AS STARTING A RESIDENT ASSOCIATION MYSELF, THAT WOULD BE SO EASY TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS.
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YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY RESIDENTS DO OR DON'T WORK IN THE SHORE.IF YOU COULD TAP ONE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
INSTEAD OF BLAMING EVERYBODY ELSE FOR THE PARKLETS, WHICH HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO YOU WITH THIS PROGRAM, FOR SURE.
UM, I, I'LL CONTINUE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, NOT, NOT OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM THE SAME PERSON.
UH, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
WE WILL DISCUSS IT AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
WE WILL HAVE SEPARATE MEETINGS TO DISCUSS IT.
WE CAN GET TOGETHER OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION.
YOU CAN COME AND HAVE COFFEE WITH ME, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
I WILL GO BUSINESS TO BUSINESS AND DISCUSS IT.
I'LL DO ANOTHER STORY IN THE NEWSPAPER TO DISCUSS IT.
THE PROGRAM EXISTS BECAUSE OF THE COMMISSION.
WE'RE TRYING, WE CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE DO IT.
WE CAN ASK THEM TO DO IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK THEM TO DO IT UNTIL I CAN'T ASK ANYMORE 'CAUSE I'M NOT HERE.
I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE ALL ENGAGE IN SOME, UH, PR FOR THIS AND SPREAD THE WORD POSITIVELY TOGETHER TO HELP GET THIS DONE.
I'M ALSO GONNA MEET WITH COUNCILWOMAN DUGGAN AND HER STAFF TO RENEW, UH, ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME, UH, FOR THE TROLLEY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WILL ABSOLUTELY CREATE MORE PARKING SPACES, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA, THE, THE, THE WAY THAT THE TROLLEY, UH, IS DESIGNED, IT'LL HIT THE PARKING LOTS ON OCEAN.
IT'LL HIT THE PARKING LOT OF MARINA, AND IT'LL HIT THE PARKING LOT UNDER THE DAVIES BRIDGE.
AND, AND IF THAT TROLLEY WAS IN PLAY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, EMPLOYEES WOULD PARK IN OUT BUYING AREAS AND TAKE A DEDICATED, CONSISTENT, UH, UH, TROLLEY TO COME TO WORK.
AND THEN WHEN THEY FINISH WORK, THEY CAN GO HOLD ON THE TROLLEY OR GO BACK TO THEIR PHONE.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE, ARE WE, WE COME UP WITH PLANS, WE DO OUR BEST TO GET THEM IN ACTION.
BUT LIKE THE BUS PASS PROGRAM, I CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE, I CAN'T PUT A MEMO OUT TO MY STAFF AND SAY, IF YOU DON'T USE THE BUS, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR JOB.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT P****D OFF AT ANYBODY.
I'M JUST PASSIONATE LIKE YOU ARE.
COME SIT WITH ME AND LET'S DO IT TOGETHER.
I THINK WE CAN FIND ANOTHER PATH TO GET THIS DONE.
SO MATT, I BELIEVE YOU'RE A CO-OWNER OF LEGENDS.
WELL, WITH THE PARKLET PROGRAM, YOU'RE ADDING 20 PATRONS.
UM, YOU'RE ADDING 20 PATRONS TO YOUR LIST, PLUS ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES.
AS EVERY PARKLET OPENS, THEY ARE ADDING PATRONS WITH NO THOUGHT.
THAT THERE'S, IF I COULD, IF I COULD RESPOND, WHICH I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO, BUT I'M GONNA, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT OF THE HOURS THAT WE'RE IN OPERATION, THERE WILL NOT BE 20 BUCKS IN 20 SEATS FOR THE ENTIRE TIME THAT WE'RE OPEN.
AND OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA SIT IN THE PARKLET, I CAN'T, EVERYONE WHO HAS A QUESTION, THEN YOU INTERRUPT THEM, THEN YOU TALK.
YEAH, LET'S, LET'S HAVE, I BELIEVE I'M ALLOWED.
AS I WAS SAYING, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS WHEN SIDEWALK DINING WAS ALLOWED, THERE WERE MORE PATRONS AND NO ADDED PARKING.
WHEN THEY HAD THAT DOUBLE, TRIPLE GOOD SIZE, THEY PROVIDED NO PARKING.
SO THE PROBLEM IS LARGELY THE PATRONS WHO ARE BEING ADDED AS ALL OF SECOND STREET IS BEING TURNED INTO A ENTERTAINMENT ZONE, NOT WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, WHICH WAS TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORS.
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SO THE ISSUES ARE THE PATRONS WHO ARE COMING AND THRIVING AND CAUSING A LOT OF TROUBLE, OBVIOUSLY BY WHAT I THINK YOU ARE CALLING THE, UM, HIGH VOLUME HOSPITALITY.SO THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT BEING DEALT WITH.
IN ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, THE COASTAL COMMISSION NOTICED THAT THE BUSINESS DISTRICT WAS DEFICIT 400 PEOPLE.
WELL, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES NOT KEEP TRACK OF THAT DEFICIT ANYMORE, BUT IT'S ENORMOUS.
AND WHEN THOSE PATRONS NEEDS BASIS TO GO AND THE EMPLOYEES, THEY PARK ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS, WHICH HAVE NO TITLE IN THEM.
THE BUS PROGRAM, IF USED PROPERLY, WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW WHEN
SO THOSE ARE HUGE ISSUES, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
AND I, I APOLOGIZE FOR TALKING OVER YOU.
UH, AND I'LL GET BACK ON TRACK.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, ALONG WITH WHAT MELINDA WAS SAYING, I READ THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM IN REGARDS TO NOHO MANY TIMES, AND IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
THE COASTAL COMMISSION STATED THAT VERY CLEARLY, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY CHANGED.
AND IT IS, IT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE KEEP GETTING MORE AND MORE AND MORE RESTAURANTS.
AND RESTAURANTS MEANS LOTS OF CUSTOMERS COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
UM, AND THOSE CUSTOMERS ARE PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT IS JUST, IT'S JUST GETTING OUTTA CONTROL.
AS A BUSINESS OWNER ON SECOND STREET, THAT'S NOT A RESTAURANT.
I, I RECOGNIZE THAT I COULD NOT SUSTAIN LIFE IF IT WERE JUST THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING MY BUSINESS.
I NEED THE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OTHER AREAS WHO ARE DINING AND THEN WALKING AROUND SHOPPING.
I RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF HAVING A BEAUTIFUL SECOND STREET THAT IS GOING TO BE A DESTINATION LOCATION WHERE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TRAVELERS FROM OUT OF TOWN WANT TO COME AND SPEND THEIR MONEY.
WE CAN'T SUSTAIN LIFE ON SECOND STREET AS A BUSINESS OWNER JUST BY THE COMMUNITY.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE TROLLEY.
I THINK IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING VERY POPULAR FOR PATRONS AS WELL, HAVING A DESIGNATED PARKING LOT, HAVING THE TROLLEY, I THINK THAT WOULD BRING CHARM.
AND ALSO IT WOULD ALLEVIATE PEOPLE'S STRESS ABOUT COMING TO SECOND STREET 'CAUSE WE CAN'T FIND PARKING.
I THINK IF THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAVE THAT BE, UM, A VERY WELL KNOWN OPTION FOR COMING TO VISIT SECOND STREET AND WANTING TO LINGER AND STAY AND SHOP AND DINE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL FOR PATRONS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE BUSINESSES.
I, I THINK THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
UM, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, WE OKAY.
WHERE WE'RE AT HERE, WE NEED, SAY WE'RE ON THE BUS PASS.
ALL IN FAVOR TO RECEIVE THE REPORT.
UH, ITEM THREE RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE A FILE.
UH, ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AN ANNUAL COST, UH, NOT TO EXCEED $250,000 FOR AS NEEDED PRIVATE SECURITY SERVICES.
UH, AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH CSI PATROL, UH, UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025.
I ALLUDED TO THIS ITEM IN THE CHAIR'S REPORT.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THE COMMISSION'S RESPONSE, UH, TO THE REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM, UH, BUSINESS OPERATORS, UH, AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, TO, UH, MEET, UH, THE PROBLEM, UH, DO WHAT WE CAN TO, UH, ADD A SOLUTION, UH, MITIGATE IT.
UH, SO YOU'VE HEARD, UH, MY THOUGHTS ON IT IN THE CHAIR'S REPORT.
UM, THIS REMAINS A PILOT PROGRAM, UH, TO A CERTAIN POINT.
AND THEN IT IS GOING TO REVERT, UH, TO A BUDGETED, UH, AN ACCEPTED PART OF OUR BUDGET, UH, GOING FORWARD.
UM, I CAN'T THINK OF, I DON'T, NOT GONNA SAY IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECT THAT WE'LL FUND.
IT IS AS IMPORTANT AS CLEAN STREETS AND STEAM CLEANING
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AND LANDSCAPING.UM, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE THE ABILITY THROUGH THE REVENUE, UH, TO DO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS IF WE WEREN'T HOLDING THE REVENUE.
UM, I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT THE CITY WOULD FUND PRIVATE SECURITY, UH, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, DOWNTOWN DOES SIMILAR PROJECTS, UM, AMBASSADORS, AND THEY'LL CALL IT WHAT THEY'LL CALL IT.
THEY DO THAT THROUGH THEIR BUSINESS ASSOCIATION REVENUES.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE AS ROBUST A BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, UH, BUDGET, UH, AS THEY DO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING, UH, RACKS, HOTELS, UM, EXCUSE ME.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE FUNDS, UH, I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, UM, BUDGET ITEM AND WE NEED TO INCREASE, UH, TO DO THIS, TO ACCEPT THOSE HOURS, UH, THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY HEARD ABOUT.
SO WITH THAT, UH, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST HAVE A, A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.
THE, UM, HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN WHAT A LOT OF THE, UH, HOME DEPOTS AND LOWE'S AND THE PARK, ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS ARE DOING AS OPPOSED TO PRIVATE SECURITY? THEY HAVE THE E CAM SECURE, WHICH IS BASICALLY A, A TRAILER WITH BATTERIES, SOLAR PANELS, AND BASICALLY CAMERA SYSTEMS. MM-HMM.
THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS AND MOTION LIGHTS.
AND SO I SEE THOSE IN THE SHOPPING CENTER PARKING LOT.
IS THAT PAID FOR BY THE, THE, THE, UH, SHOPPING CENTER LANDLORDS? OR MAYBE IT IS.
SO THOSE AREN'T SUPPLIED BY PDS? NO, NO.
IT'S, IT GETS REVERSED TO CAMP CULINARY.
SO I, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A COST EFFECT.
I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO WHERE, WHERE WOULD WE, WHERE WOULD WE DEPLOY ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE ON THAT, ON A 14 BLOCK STRETCH? I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK MAYBE WE COULD PARK 'EM ON A SIDE STREET OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, TWO 300 BLOCK, YOU KNOW, ON A, THAT SIDE STREET AND, AND SOME OF THESE PROBLEMATIC AREAS THAT THEY, I THINK THEY HAVE KIND OF A, UH, DETERRENT FACTOR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF, I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE COST EFFECTI.
I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO THE COST OF IT, WHETHER NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I CERTAINLY 360 CAMERAS AS WELL.
AND, UH, THEY ARE, THERE IS A LOCAL COMPANY IN LONG BEACH E CAMP SECURE, THEY'RE OFF THE, THEY'RE UP THE AIRPORT.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT, THAT DO THIS.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, RENTING ONE OF THESE THINGS, IT'S 24 7 IN TERMS OF COVERAGE.
AND, UM, I MEAN THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING TO SECURE, UH, CONSTRUCTION SITES AND SHOPPING CENTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THEY'RE VERY COST EFFECTIVE, I THINK, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO.
SO IT'S AN AUGMENTATION TO THE CAMERA SYSTEM THAT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE RELYING ON PRIVACY SECURITY CAMERAS.
WELL, AND, AND THE CITY CAMERAS, THE COMMANDER PANINO TOLD US, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO THAT WERE NOW 90 PLUS PERCENT OPERATIONAL, UM, THAT ARE BEING, UH, FOOTAGE IS BEING CAPTURED AND THIS IS HOW THEY APPREHENDED, UH, SOME OF THE LATEST SMASH AND GRAB FOLKS.
AND, UH, IT AIDED IN THE APPREHENSION OF THE, THE GUY, THE SHOOTING ON SATURDAY, THE CITY CAMERAS AND PRIVATE CAMERAS THAT ARE DEPLOYED, ALL OF THE DISTRICT DID THAT.
I JUST DUNNO HOW MUCH IT COSTS.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE MANAGE IT.
YOU HAVE SOMEONE THIRD WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD THE DAILY RIGHT.
SOMEONE HAS SOMEWHERE HAS TO MANAGE IT, THEN SOMEONE HAS TO.
BUT ANYWAY, I, I, I THINK THE ONLY MOTION I'M MAKING HERE IS THAT WE LOOK INTO IT.
THIS COULD NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
I I ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT.
SO BACK IN 2020, I ACTUALLY DID THIS FOR THE CITY, UM, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE DECOMMISSIONING OF OLD CITY HALL.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME ROUGH NUMBERS.
AND THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM 20 NOVEMBER, UH, 2020.
SO EACH DID COMMISSION A CAMERA WITH, UH, THAT MOBILE STATION WITH FOUR CAMERAS THAT, WITH THIS SECURITY, WHICH IS AT NIGHTTIME, UM, IT DOES COME OUT TO ABOUT $8,000 PER MONTH.
UM, AND THAT'S WITH THE 24 HOUR MONITORING SERVICE.
THAT MONITORING SERVICE PER UNIT? YEAH, PER UNIT.
AND THAT'S JUST THAT AS A REMINDER, THAT'S NOVEMBER OF 2020.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW WHY I ACTUALLY DID RUN SOME NUMBERS AFTER
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THAT.SO I THINK THAT WAS FOR NOVEMBER AND THEN DECEMBER OF 2020 AND JANUARY OF 2021, IT WAS ABOUT $6,500 EACH MONTH.
UH, SIR, WHERE, HOW FAR DOES EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS THROW? IT DOES, IT IS MOTION PROTECTED.
UM, I CAN'T RECALL HOW FAR THEY GO.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS, WE WERE LOOKING AT 'EM, THEY DO GO PRETTY, I MEAN, IT, IT'S LIKE A REGULAR CAMERA, RIGHT? IT PROVIDES LIKE A, A SMALL DISTANCE OF IT AND IT IS MOTION DETECTED.
AND THEN WHEN THERE'S MOTION, THE LIGHTS DO COME ON.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY, UM, WILL ANNOUNCE THERE'LL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THAT, UM, AS WELL.
UM, BUT THAT WAS, WE, WE, THE CITY ENDED UP BUYING A FEW, AND THEN THEY DO HAVE 'EM WITHIN THE CITY, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A, EVEN ON TOP OF BUYING THAT UNIT, UH, THERE'S A MONTHLY COST OF SERVICING IN.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE CITY OF LONG BEACH OWNS UNITS THAT WE CAN BORROW? YEAH.
COULD WE ASK FOR DEPLOYMENT OF THE UNIT IN THE SHORE ON A PILOT? YEAH.
I KNOW THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED, OTHER LOCATIONS.
UM, BUT IF, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK IF THERE'S ANY UNITS AVAILABLE AND IF THAT IS AVAILABLE, I CAN, UH, I'M COMING TO PUBLIC IN JUST A SECOND, FOLKS.
YEAH, BUT I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S THREE OF 'EM.
I THINK THE CITY MIGHT OWN FOUR OF 'EM.
UM, AND I KNOW THEY'RE DEPLOYED IN, I I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE'S THREE OF THEM DEPLOYED IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED.
UM, BUT I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THOSE SO WE WE CAN, WE CAN ASK FOR, FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, I CAN ASK, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THE COSTS AND THEN, UH, FOR NEXT MONTH I CAN DOUBLE CHECK IF IT'S, IT IS AVAILABLE.
IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, I CAN ASK THE SECURITY CAMERA COMPANY.
I, YEAH, I DO HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE SECURITY, WHICH I TOTALLY SUPPORT, BUT I DO WANT TO ADD THAT.
AND YOU DON'T WANT PICK ON ONE, ONE OWNER, BUT I DO KNOW WHERE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED.
IT'S, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE PROBLEMS THERE.
SO I THINK TO SOME DEGREE THE OWNER NEEDS TO STEP IT UP ABOUT CLIENTELE OR WHATEVER, SOCIAL SECURITY.
I MEAN, WE ARE HAPPY TO PAY FOR THIS SECURITY.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME THERE'S A PROBLEM, AND THIS IS A DEAD ONE, IT'S THAT, THAT PLACE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOES TO THE OWNER.
AND, AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT WAS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE AND PROTOCOL WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN, UH, THE CITY HAS MECHANISMS FOR, UH, NOT ONLY INVESTIGATING IT, BUT THERE IS A RAMIFICATION TO, UH, WHERE, WHERE IT BEGAN.
UH, THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OPERATORS, UM, AND, AND THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS TO IT.
SO IT IS A PROCESS, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT BUSINESSES NOT ONLY IN SHORE, UH, ANYWHERE IN THIS TOWN, ANYWHERE IN ANY CITY THAT I'VE EVER HAD, HOSPITALITY, UH, WHEN PROBLEMS, UH, ESCALATE.
SO TOO DOES THE INVOLVEMENT FROM, UH, NOT ONLY POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, UH, CURTAILING OF, OF, UH, ITEMS IN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, HOURS ABILITY TO OPERATE FREELY.
UH, BUT THE A, B, C INSURANCE, LIQUOR LICENSE ALMOST.
SO I CAN ASSURE YOU, I CAN ASSURE YOU DO AN EVENT LIKE THIS.
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOME AND I'M, I'M HERE FOR IT TO, SO WE'RE DOING OUR PART.
I WANT THEM TO, COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM PLEASE? MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE CAUSE UP TO 250,000 FOR THE SECURITY.
NOW I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE.
UH, JULIE, UM, I JUST, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PARKING LOTS THAT HAVE BLUE LIGHTS ON 'EM? CORRECT.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THAT'LL GO OVER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO SLEEP.
WELL LET'S, LET'S TAKE THE STATE OF VIEW POINT AND CONSIDER IT AND, UH, MORE ON YOUR COMMENT COURT.
UH, MR. C**K, UH, REFLECTING THAT THIS ISN'T A DIALOGUE, I'M JUST GONNA COMMENT, CORRECT, BUT THERE'S AN UNDERLYING QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT THIS ITEM'S BEEN AGENDA FOR A WHILE, BUT THERE'S NO ATTACHMENTS TO THE AGENDA.
THERE'S NO RESEARCH, THERE'S NO COMPARATIVE STUFF THAT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT SHOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE TO THIS DAY.
THAT'S A DISADVANTAGE TO THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW THE ITEM.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS PUBLIC MONEY GOING INTO A THING THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE FOR THE BUSINESSES WITH A SENSIBLE SIDE BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT SOLUTION? I CAN'T REVIEW THAT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NOTHING POSTED ON THE AGENDA THAT REFLECTS ANY OF THE WORK, THE NUMBERS, OR ANY DETAILS THERE.
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ADDITION TO MOBILE UNITS, DO WE HAVE SET CAMERAS, THE LONG SENTENCE TO STREET ALONG THE WHOLE STREET AND OUTSIDE OF BUSINESSES SO THAT WE CAN DRAW FOOTAGE AS NEEDED IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT? SO THROUGHOUT SECOND STREET, THERE ARE SET CAMERAS.I MEAN, I KNOW I PERSONALLY HAVE ONE OUTSIDE MY DOOR.
THERE'S CITY, UH, SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS ON LIGHT POLE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE? UM, WELL, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH JAY.
I, THE BUSINESS ITSELF SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE AND ALCOHOL BEVERAGE CONTROL SHOULD BE NOTIFIED FOR LOCATIONS.
I GATHER YOU'RE SPEAKING OF DOGS, WHICH HAS BEEN A CONSTANT PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY OTHERS THAT ARE.
SO THOSE SHOULD BE DEALT WITH.
AND, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT HOW CSI IS GONNA WORK, UM, WHAT WE SEE LIKE BY YOUR BICYCLE PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE MAINLY IN THE ALLEYS THAT ARE AROUND.
WE DON'T SEE THEM WALKING ON SECOND STREET.
AND I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT NEW PEOPLE AT NIGHT BECAUSE WHAT CAN THEY DO? LOOK ALL THE POLICE, WHAT COULD THEY HAVE DONE IF THEY ENCOUNTERED THE KIND OF FIGHTS THAT WERE GOING ON ON SECOND STREET? I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE GUNS FOR TIME.
UM, I, I KNOW YOU'RE MAKING A STATEMENT, UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO, UH, INTERJECT, BUT I WILL MAKE AN INVITATION.
CALL ME, CALL THE COMPANY, SIT WITH THEM, AND THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THESE DETAILS WITH YOU.
THAT'S ALL, ALL I CAN SAY IS, IS THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT SHOULD HAVE GATHERED BE GATHERED BEFORE YOU MAKE A CONTACT.
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TALK AFTER.
I'M, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS AFTER, UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLARIFICATION.
SO THE, SORRY WITH CITY STAFF, UH, BUT THE CONTRACT WILL BE, STILL NEED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO WE'RE DRAFTING UP AND I, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT PUTTING IN THE NUMBERS.
WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THOSE.
BUT, UH, I'LL MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR COUNCIL LETTER, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO MAKE SURE WE PUT IN THOSE, UH, NUMBERS AS WELL.
JUST SO CAN WE RECEIVE A COPY OF THAT SUMMARY FORM WHERE IT'S THE NEXT STEP? YEAH, YEAH.
LET ME, LET ME PUT UP THE, A STAFF REPORT AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, I'LL, IF YOU CAN JUST LEAVE YOUR EMAIL AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT TO ME.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE'VE HAD A COMMENT.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR? I A THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, ITEM FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS ALLEY LIGHTS, UH, IN THE DOLLAR SHORT PARKING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA.
I HAD ASKED, UH, STAFF, UH, AND I DO PERIODICALLY AND HAVE PERIODICALLY, UH, ON AN AUDIT FOR, UH, SPECIFICALLY PLANTS, UH, IN THE ALLEYS, UH, THAT AREN'T OPERATIONAL OR AREN'T BRIGHT ENOUGH.
UH, THEY'RE NOT UP TO, UM, I DUNNO IF THERE'S A CODE OR A A, THERE SHOULD BE A PHOTO METRIC, A METRIC FOR, UH, HOW MANY LUMENS, UH, THEY SHOULD BE, WHAT TYPE OF LIGHTS THEY SHOULD BE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, IMPORTANT ALSO BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, NOT SO GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE DARK AND, UH, MIGHT USUALLY, UH, SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, AND, AND CITY STAFF IS GONNA ELABORATE ON THIS IN JUST A MOMENT, IS THAT SOME OF THESE LIGHTS ARE, UH, PRIVATE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON BUILDINGS.
SOME LIGHTS ARE, UH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON, SOME LIGHTS ARE CITY FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL SHUT UP AND WE'LL LET YOU GO.
FOR THE, SO THE DISCUSSION ON ALLIANCE, I MEAN, DEPENDING ON THE ROUTE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO GO, CITIES HAVE TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT YEAH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS SOME LIGHTS THAT ARE, ARE, UM, PRIVATELY OWNED AND CITY OWNED.
WE'LL HAVE TO, ON THE CITY SIDE, WE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH ONES ARE CITY OWNED AND SEE IF, UM, WE CAN, UM, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH STAFF ON HOW WE CAN EITHER INCREASE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING IN THAT AREA OR IMPROVE THE LIGHTING.
CHANGING FROM, I THINK FROM, UH, REGULAR LIGHTING TO LED LIGHTING.
UM, BUT I KNOW THERE HAS, THERE, THAT HAS ACTUALLY HAS HAPPENED THE TRANSITION IN THE ACTUAL PARKING LOTS.
UM, AND THAT DID LIT UP THE AREA MORE.
BUT DEPENDING ON THE, THE, ON WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO, CITY HAS STAFF CAN LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.
UM, HOW LIMIT THAT, SAY THAT AGAIN.
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WHAT'S, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND, AND, UH, YEAH.SO I MEAN, WE GET, UH, STAFF CAN LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THIS AREA.
UH, AT LEAST THE ALLEY LIGHTS AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.
UM, AND WE COULD PUT UP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR IF NOT TWO, TWO MONTHS DEPENDING ON STAFF, HOW WE, HOW FAST WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THE CITY LIGHTS, UH, UPGRADED.
I MEAN, ARE WE, YEAH, I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.
IF THEY'RE NOT LED LIGHTS ALREADY, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT, UM, WHO MANAGES OUR CITY LIGHTS, UM, TO SEE WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE IF EITHER, IF THEY NEED TO BE IMPROVED, LIKE IF THEY NEED TO TRANSITION TO LED LIGHTS.
'CAUSE I KNOW USUALLY LED LIGHTS DOES DO LIGHT UP, UH, MORE OF AN AREA OR TO SEE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THAT CAN BE ADDED.
UM, YEAH, IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN GET FROM OUR TEAM, OUR EX OUR EXPERTS.
UH, THIS WILL BE ANOTHER THING WITH, WITH THE RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE BEHIND SAME SECOND SECOND, WE HAD VERY BRIGHT LIGHTS FOR THAT REASON AND WE ENDED UP HAVING TO TAKE THEM DOWN BECAUSE OF RESIDENTIAL COMPLAINTS.
AND I THINK IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE THAN ONE FOOT CANDLE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT GET THOSE COMPLAINTS, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE AT LEAST ONE.
THAT WOULD BE WHAT A PARKING LOT IS AT, AT ITS DARKEST.
AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING MORE THAN FIVE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE IN TROUBLE.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK A FEW YEARS AGO, BACK IN 2019 OR 2020, I KNOW THE PARKING LOTS, THAT WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE LIGHTS ACTUALLY HITTING, UM, THE RESIDENCE.
BUT I KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE DISCUSS, UH, COLLARS ON THOSE LIGHTS? YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY DID PUT, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO IT.
WELL, WE NEED A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY.
AND THAT'S USUALLY THE, UH, UH, THE MANUFACTURER OF THE LIGHTS CAN'T DO THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE POLE HEIGHTS AND YOU GIVE 'EM THE GPS COORDINATES, THEY, THE MANUFACTURERS CAN DO THAT FOR FREE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, YOU KNOW, I ALSO HAVE A LIGHT METER.
WE CAN TAKE IT OUT THERE AND I CAN GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE AT.
BUT I MEAN, I'D HAVE TO AGREE THAT, UH, MR. HOFFMAN'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT A, IF YOU'VE GOT THIS MM-HMM
SO THERE ARE WAYS TO EITHER CALL IT OR CORRECT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THE MANUFACTURER WILL GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON THE TYPE OF LIGHT AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO A PROFILE MAP AND GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, FOOT HANDLES PER DISTANCE.
SO, WE'LL DEFINITELY, WE'LL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY BEFORE ANY, ANY ACTIONS TAKEN SAFE STAFF WILL LOOK INTO IT, UM, PUT IN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN SEE WHAT THEY RECOMMEND TO US.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT FORTH OKAY.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS? UH, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE TALKING.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ITEM SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL, UH, FROM CONSERVATION COURT, FROM UNION AND PLANT REPLACEMENT.
UH, AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES, UM, BIMONTHLY MAINTENANCE.
AM I CORRECT? UH, SIR, ON THAT? I'M SORRY.
ITEM SIX ALSO INCLUDES BIMONTHLY MAINTENANCE, NOT JUST PLANT.
SO THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST FOR THE PLANT REPLACEMENT.
THE, THE MONTHLY'S ALREADY BEEN DOING, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT.
THAT WAS VOTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.
MY RECOMMENDATION TO CONCLUDE PROPOSAL FOR THE CONSERVATION BOARD CORE FOR MEDIAN PLANT REPLACEMENT OF COST $3,400.
UM, I NEED A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UM, $3,400 FOR THE PLANT PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, WHAT SIZE OF THE PLANTS? UH, THEY'RE SEED LANES.
I WOULD GUESS THAT THEY'RE ANYWHERE FROM ONE GALLONS TO FIVE GALLONS.
YEAH, THEY PROVIDED, SORRY, THEY PROVIDED US PRETTY LATE, BUT I KNOW I CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION.
DO YOU WANT TO PUSH THIS TO MARCH AND GIVE MORE DETAIL? UH, NOT NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, UP TO, MY GUESS IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ONE GALAXY BASED ON THE PRICE.
I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS RELATIVELY
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LOW COST.I THINK THIS WE SHOULD FIRST ONE.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UM, I'M GONNA GO OUT TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, WITH THAT NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO THERE'S, THEY'RE ALL ONE GALLON EXCEPT FOR LIKE, UH, THERE'S ONE THAT'S A 15 GALLON.