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          ALRIGHT, 
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SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          WE HAVE A ROLL CALL COMMISSION. 
          CHAIR KELLY HERE. 
          COMMISSION OR COMMISSIONER? VICE CHAIR MURRAY. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER ATKINS. 
          MCPHAIL. 
          . 
          COMMISSIONER CARLIN. 
          COMMISSIONER CAGER. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER LAMB? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER MC. 
          REG. 
          I AM HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER MARINA. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZAHA. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. KELLY, YOU HAVE A COURT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. 
          UH, FIRST IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH, 2024. 
          I MOVE. 
          THEY BE APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND I SECOND THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, GREAT. 
          UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? SUSTAINED. 
          DID YOU REVIEW IT? OH, I DID REVIEW IT SO I YOU CAN VOTE ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I, OKAY. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UHHUH. 
          . 
          UH, OKAY. 
          THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA. 
          RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON BLUFF PART BLUFFS. 
          ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR, UH, ACTING SUPERINTENDENT OF BEACH MAINTENANCE COME FORWARD. 
          KELLY ARMSTRONG, AND HE IS GOING TO START HIS PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSION, UM, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY ON THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES AND, UH, BLUFF MAINTENANCE FOR OUR BLUFF PARK BLUFFS. 
          UM, THE, UH, COUPLE OF LITTLE TIDBITS OF HISTORY ON THE BLUFF PARK AND THE BLUFF PARK BL UH, BLUFFS MOUTHFUL THERE. 
          UH, 1919, THE AREA WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY BY THE ALAMEDOS LAND COMPANY, UH, OCCUPIED, UH, BY THE NAVY DURING WORLD WAR II AND HOME TO THE LONG BEACH LONE SAILOR STATUE, WHICH WAS DEDICATED IN, UH, DECEMBER OF 2004. 
          GREAT LITTLE PHOTO THERE. 
          I THINK THAT'S, UH, THE CHALLENGER. 
          THE CHALLENGER, YES. 
          AND I WAS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, MOVING ON TO A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY, UH, BACK IN 2014, UH, SOME EROSION CONTROL EFFORTS WERE PUT FORTH BY THE CITY, UM, SHOP CREEK AND ADDITIONAL EROSION CONTROL METHODS INSTALLED AT VARIOUS AREAS ON THE BLUFF. 
          AND, UH, FROM THAT PROJECT IS WHERE WE DI DERIVED OUR LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          UM, THAT WAS PART OF THAT RESTORATION PROJECT. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE, UH, AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH, UH, MAINTENANCE OF THE BLUFFS, UM, AND THE, UH, WITH OUR CONTRACTED SERVICE. 
          THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD AUTHORITY OVER IT. 
          THE CITY DID THAT, CORRECT? WELL, WE, WE, THE SHOT THE, THE, WE, WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE BLUFFS, UH, DATING BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          DECADES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IT IS A, A COMPONENT OF OUR LOCAL COASTAL PLAN, UH, WHICH WAS SET IN PLACE IN 1980. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, UH, UH, AREAS OF IT HAVE BEEN INTERMITTENTLY, UH, MAINTAINED BY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS LIKE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, THE BLUFF LANDSCAPE, UM, AND THE, THE LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          UM, WE CAN SEE AN AERIAL VIEW THERE OF, OF THE KIND OF DEPICTED AREA OF, UH, MAINTENANCE WORK, UH, THAT PERTAINS TO, UH, THE BLUFF, UH, LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, AREA NEAR, UH, THE BIXBY ANNEX, UM, PARK AREA, UM, AS WELL AS THE BLUFFS FROM, UH, THE MUSEUM, UH, ALL THE WAY TO 36TH PLACE. 
          UM, SOME KEY POINTS OF THIS, UH, MANAGEMENT PLAN IS TO MAINTAIN AN AESTHETIC VALUE BY PROMOTING FLOWERING, MAXIMIZING NATIVE PLANTS, UH, ON THE BLUFF FACES, UH, TO MANAGE NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPE THAT WILL FLOURISH WITH LIMITED MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES AND TO PROMOTE HUMAN SAFETY ALONG THE BEACH BELOW, UH, THE BLUFF FACE BY REDUCING THE CHANCES OF, UH, VAGRANCY FIRE AND EROSION. 
          UM, AND SO THIS, UH, THE WORK THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, BEING DONE AS A CONTRACTED SERVICE THROUGH LOW CERRITOS WETLAND STEWARDS, UM, THEY'RE THE CONTRACTED SERVICE OVER, UH, THE BLUFF, UM, MAINTENANCE AS WELL OF, UH, A LOT OF OUR ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS IN THE, UH, MARINE BUREAU. 
          UM, SOME, UH, SOME WORK FROM THAT CONTRACT, UH, AS IT STATES 36 TO 2300 EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD IS THE, THE MUSEUM AREA, UM, PURSUANT AND OR CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          SO WE'VE BUILT THAT LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN INTO OUR, UH, SCOPE OF WORK 
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WITH OUR, UH, CONTRACTED SERVICE AND, UM, REMOVAL AND OF INVASIVE AND OTHER NON DESIRABLE PLANTS AND SUPPLYING AND REPLANTING, UH, DESIRABLE SPECIES AS NECESSARY IN ACCORDANCE WITH AN AGREED UPON PLANTING PLAN. 
          UM, AGAIN, LOS CERRILLOS, UH, WETLANDS, UM, THEY MANAGE THE BLUFF PARK SLOPES, GOLDEN SHORED, BIOLOGICAL RESERVE, COLORADO LAGOON, JACK DUNSTER, SIMS POND, RAINBOW LAGOON, I BELIEVE THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL ON THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT, BUT THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER OF OURS THAT, UM, WE RELY ON FOR THOSE SERVICES. 
          UM, AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER AREAS OF CONCERN , UH, JUST SOME PHOTOS OF, UH, PAST WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE BLUFF, UH, AREAS. 
          THIS IS THE MUSEUM SLOPE. 
          THIS WAS DONE BACK IN, I THINK, 2012 OR SO. 
          UM, NO, I'M SORRY, 2022, JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO. 
          UM, UM, SO BEFORE THE WORK, UH, THAT AREA WAS VERY BARE. 
          WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OF DUST AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT WAS GOING UP INTO THE RESTAURANT. 
          WE STARTED OUR, UM, ENHANCEMENT WITH SOME, UH, LANDSCAPE ACTIVITY THERE TO PROMOTE, UH, GO BACK REAL QUICK. 
          BACK ONE REAL QUICK, KELLY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE ARE ALSO GETTING A LOT OF ISSUES. 
          I, I THINK IF YOU CAN SEE THE BARE AREA THERE OF RC REMOTE CONTROL CARS YEAH. 
          UH, BEING DRIVEN UP AND DOWN THAT SLOPE, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE TIRE TRACKS GOING UP AND DOWN THERE. 
          YES. 
          THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM. 
          UM, SO SIMILAR WORK, UM, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE HERE AS WELL AS 36 PLACE, WHICH I, I'LL GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT, UM, IS, UH, THE JUTE NETTING FOR, UM, KIND OF STABILIZATION, SOME WEED CONTROL, UH, ASSISTING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, HOLDING DOWN MULCH THAT WOULD BE COMING AFTER THIS. 
          UM, KIND OF THE, THE PROCESS OF INSTALLATION IT, MOVING INTO KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING ROOT AND THOSE, UH, PLANTS ESTABLISHING THERE ON THE BLUFF. 
          UM, SOME AFTER PHOTOS, THESE ARE, THIS IS, UH, THE SAME AREA WITH, UH, MULCH INSTALLED. 
          AND, UM, LOOKS, YOU KNOW, JUST A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE STARTED WITH. 
          UM, GETTING INTO 36 PLACE. 
          THIS WAS KIND OF, UH, SOME PHOTOS TAKEN PRIOR TO, UM, WORK THAT WAS DONE AT THAT LOCATION. 
          AND, UM, SIMILAR, UH, ACTIVITIES OF MAINTENANCE IN THIS AREA WHERE, UM, WE REMOVED SOME UNWANTED PLANTS, CLEARED OUT THE AREA, INSTALLED THE JUTE NETTING, STARTED THAT PLANTING PROCESS. 
          UM, WE WERE HIT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME GOOD AMOUNT OF STORMS LAST MONTH THAT CAUSED SOME EROSION ISSUES. 
          UH, SOME OF THESE ISSUES WERE ACTUALLY CAUSED BY SOME DRAINAGE TOO, COMING FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. 
          SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO REPLACE THEIR, UH, THEIR DRAINS ALONG THEIR, THEIR, UH, PROPERTY LINE THERE SO THEY DON'T AFFECT THE BLUFF. 
          AND LET'S SEE HERE. 
          AND THIS PROJECT ISN'T DONE, SO, UM, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY DONE. 
          UH, IT'S A GREAT LITTLE QUOTE HERE. 
          THE PLAN OF GUARDIAN IS TO BELIEVE IN TOMORROW. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE KIND OF AT WITH THAT PROCESS IS WE PLANTED THAT GARDEN AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF, UH, WAITING FOR IT TO REALLY START TO, UM, TO FLOURISH. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D LOVE TO TRY TO HELP ANSWER THOSE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T, OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          ON ONE OF THE SLIDES YOU SAID REMOVE INVASIVE AND OTHER NON DESIRABLE PLANTS IN SUPPLY AND REPENT DESIRABLE SPECIES. 
          CAN YOU GO INTO WHAT ARE DESIRABLE SPECIES? I THOUGHT THEY HAD TO BE NATIVE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE, MAYBE THE WATER REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS AROUND IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. 
          SO CAN YOU JUST GO INTO THAT AND THEN IT SAID, WITH AN AGREED UPON PLANTING PLAN. 
          SO WHAT IS THAT PLAN? SURE. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT VERBIAGE IS SPECIFICALLY TAKEN OUT OF THE MANAGEMENT, UH, UM, BEST MANAGEMENT PLAN AND PRACTICES FROM OUR LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, BUT IT IS DIRECTED ALL TOWARDS NATIVE PLANTS ONLY. 
          UM, THERE IS A, A FULL LIST OF NATIVE PLANTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE, THE BLUFF AND, AND AS WELL AS SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE BLUFF. 
          SO WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE TOE OR, UH, THE BOTTOM OF THE SLOPE, THE MID RANGE OR THE KIND OF THE OCEAN BOULEVARD PLANTER AREAS, UH, IT'S ALL DEPICTED IN THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT, UM, ALL NATIVE SPECIES. 
          AND, UM, WHAT WAS THE LAST PART OF YOUR QUESTION? I'M SORRY. 
          NO, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT DESIRABLE, BUT YOU SAID THAT'S NATIVE? YES. 
          ALL NATIVE. 
          IS THAT DESIRABLE? MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I CAN 
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SAY SOMETHING TOO. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, 36 IS GONNA NEED IS TIME. 
          UM, WE PLANTED THE ART MUSEUM ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND IT'S JUST NOW STARTING TO REALLY TAKE ROOT FILL IN AND IT LOOKS A LOT MORE COMPLETE NOW. 
          UM, 36. 
          THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T PUT A LOT OF PLANTS IN AND MAKE IT LOOK FULL WITH THE PALLET RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO REMOVE A LOT OF THOSE AND WE'VE MAY LOSE THEM. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT SPARSE RIGHT NOW, HOW IT'S PLANTED. 
          BUT IN TIME YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'LL REALLY FILL IN NICELY. 
          IT'S A NICE MIX. 
          WE, WE WENT DOWN IN, IN SMALL GROUPS AND LOOKED AND IT WAS, UH, YEAH, WELL DONE. 
          IT'S GONNA LOOK NICE WHEN IT'S ALL FULL. 
          I THINK SO, YEAH. 
          LIKE I SAID, GO BACK TO THE, THE LITTLE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS, AND THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL. 
          YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER MORENO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THE, THE EXISTING THAT WAS THERE. 
          ONE THAT THEY WEREN'T NATIVE, THEY WERE PLANTED BY SOME OF THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO THEY USED A BLACK WEBBING OF PLASTIC. 
          AND THIS, THAT WAS COMPLETELY REMOVED. 
          AND THE JEW IS NATURAL. 
          UM, IT'S A NATIVE, IT'S, IT'S A NATIVE PLANT MADE FROM A NATIVE PLANT, AND, UM, IT WILL BE MUCH BETTER AND WILL ABSORB AND WILL HOLD THE, UH, THE GROUND AND WE'LL KEEP THINGS, UM, UM, SAFE FROM, UH, EROSION UNTIL THE, THE PLANTS PLANT, THERE WERE A LOT OF JUST GRASSES THAT JUST LOOK LIKE, IT LOOKED LIKE WINTER GRASS THAT WAS PLANTED. 
          SO WITH THE RAINS WE'VE HAD AND THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S GONNA GROW FAST. 
          SO THE THREE TO FIVE YEARS, I THINK, LIKE BRUCE SAID, IT'S PROBABLY JUST GONNA BE MORE LIKE THREE YEARS THAN FIVE YEARS. 
          FIVE, IT'LL BE ALL FULL. 
          BUT, UM, THE BLUFF, I WAS REMARKING THAT THE BLUFF HAS LOTS OF BIRDS. 
          THAT IF YOU GO DOWN TO CRYSTAL CO OR SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF HILLSIDE AND BLUFFS WHERE THE BEACHES ARE, UM, YOU'LL HEAR THE SAME KIND OF SPECIES OF BIRDS NOW, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UM, HABITATING IN THE, IN THE BUSHES AND THE GRASSES THERE AND SO ON. 
          UM, SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO IN GENERAL, BUT NOT BEING AN EXPERT, THE IDEA OF SPRAYING CONCRETE ONTO A BLUFF ISN'T LIKE MY FAVORITE IDEA. 
          AND I THINK AT THE TIME THERE WERE PLANS TO DO THAT IN MORE OF THE BLUFF, AND I'M GLAD THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          BUT I REMEMBER AT THE TIME, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT THE SHOT CREEK IS, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED, WOULD BE SO WARM, AND THE PLANTS WOULD BE SO EXPOSED THAT THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE VERY WELL. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS SORT OF A NATURAL TO BE IN A LITTLE POCKET WITH CEMENT AROUND IT. 
          SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, WHAT'S THE PLANT'S SURVIVAL RATE OUT THERE? UM, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU NOW, UM, THAT WHOLE AREA ALONG THE SHOCK CREEK IS, IS DOING WELL. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY REPORTS OF, AND THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT THAT PROJECT WAS DONE. 
          AND I BELIEVE THOSE PLANTS ARE STILL, UM, DOING WELL. 
          DO THEY NEED TO BE WATERED? THERE'S IRRIGATION, THERE'S IRRIGATION AREA, THERE'S IRRIGATION. 
          IRRIGATION WAS PART OF THAT PROJECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS NEEDED WITH NATIVE PLANTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, I HAD ANOTHER, WHAT THERE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, AND I'M JUST, THIS IS JUST ME. 
          IT LOOKS SORT OF SPARSE. 
          IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S EARLY ON? OR DO YOU EXPECT MORE PLANT COVERAGE, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREAS THAT HAVE THAT, I WANNA CALL IT CONCRETE, BUT I GUESS SHOT CREEK. 
          WILL THAT FLUSH OUT OR WILL IT BE THESE PLANTS WITH THIS SORT OF GRAY STUFF OR GRAY CONCRETE AROUND IT? DO YOU HAVE ANY? SO COMMISSIONER, THE AREA THAT WE, WE ADDRESSED MM-HMM. 
          , THERE'S NO SHOCK CREEK INVOLVED IN THAT AREA. 
          IT IS, IT LOOKS SPARSE BECAUSE THE PLANTINGS ARE SMALL UHHUH AND WE HAVE TO ALLOW GROWTH SPACE AROUND IT. 
          NO, I GET THE CONCEPT. 
          SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          ARE THEY EXPECTED TO BE BIGGER AND TAKE UP MORE OF THE AREA? OH, YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS, I BELIEVE THE, THE OCEAN BOULEVARD PLANTER, YOUR HIGH, UH, PLANTER, UH, THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO STAY LOW, TO KEEP VISUAL, UM, AREA AND NOT GROW HIGH. 
          UM, BUT IN THE MID RANGE AREA, THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO KIND OF SPREAD OUT. 
          AND THEN THE BOTTOM RANGE AREA, THOSE ARE KIND OF DESIGNED TO, UM, FLOURISH UP UPWARDS IS THE OVERALL PLAN. 
          AND THERE'S, I'M SURE IF I LOOK FOR THEM, THERE'S PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OR METRICS THAT YOU TRY TO HIT WITH THESE PROJECTS? UM, YES. 
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YEAH. 
          UH, PART OF THAT CONTRACT, UM, SERVICE IS MONTHLY MONITORING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, SO THEY'LL PROVIDE US, UH, WITH REPORTS IN DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. 
          AND, UM, IF I WANTED TO LOOK FOR THEM, I'D BE ABLE TO FIND THEM OR SOMEONE COULD HELP ME FIND THEM. 
          YEAH, I BELIEVE SO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU HAD MENTIONED THE LOW THROUGH TO STUDENTS ARE GREAT PARTNERS, AND I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT, BUT WHAT WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY? UM, THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER TO HAVE, UH, WORKING IN OUR ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE AREAS. 
          THEY'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND THEY'VE HELPED US OUT, UH, OVER THE YEARS WITH, UM, DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND, UM, MAINTENANCE NEEDS. 
          SO THEY'RE KNOWLEDGEABLE IS THEIR SUPERPOWER? UH, YEAH. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY DIVERSE GROUPS. 
          SO THEY, THEY HELP OUT IN OTHER AREAS WITH THE WE BIT INSTALLATIONS. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALSO USED IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP. 
          MULTITASK? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST SORT OF CURIOUS. 
          SURE. 
          BEFORE I CALL IN COMMISSIONER MORENO, UH, JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD, THE COMMISSIONER CARLIN JOINED. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, KELLY, UM, ALONG THE BLUFF, WHEN YOU WALK UP ON THE HIGH END OF IT, WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS, THERE'S A WHOLE AREA THAT IS COVERED WITH GRAPE GRAPEVINE THAT WAS EITHER PLANTED BY BIRDS DROPPINGS OR, OR VISITORS THERE JUST, YOU KNOW, THROWING THEIR FOOD OVER THEM. 
          BUT THAT IT, IT IS A BIG AREA. 
          IT'S A, THERE'S VIN AND SO ON. 
          IS THAT CONSIDERED NATIVE NOW OR IS THAT GOING TO BE REMOVED? NO, UH, THAT WAS PLANTED DURING THE SHOCK CREEK PROJECT. 
          AND THAT CAME FROM A COMMUNITY OR A, YOU KNOW, WE ALL ANSWER TO SOMEONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, SO DURING THAT PROJECT IT WAS, IT WAS STATED THAT THERE WILL BE GRAPEVINES AND BASICALLY THE PROJECT TEAM, AND THIS IS JUST MY GENERAL UNDERSTANDING, IS THE PROJECT TEAM FOUGHT FOR NATIVES, UH, BUT GRAPES WON, WON THE DAY AT THAT TIME. 
          UH, SO WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT TO THE STANDARD THAT WE CAN BASED ON THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY'RE IN. 
          UM, BUT NO, THEY ARE NOT NATIVE. 
          BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE PLACED FOR A PURPOSE, WE MAINTAINED 'EM TO THAT PURPOSE. 
          IS THAT AT, IS THAT IN THE, THE BLUFF MAINTENANCE POINT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA FINISH THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S NEW GROWTH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS SPRING, BUT THE OLD VINES ARE JUST DEAD AND ENTANGLED AND THEY'RE COVERING OTHER TREES AND PLANTS. 
          THEY CAN BE RUBBED OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TO, TO MINIMIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR NEXT MAINTENANCE CYCLE. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NATURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UM, INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE. 
          UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, FORGIVE ME FOR A MOMENT. 
          ARE THE LOS CERRITOS WETLANDS STEWARDS LICENSED, UM, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS OR CONTRACTORS? UH, JUST YES OR NO. 
          THAT'S, UH, REALLY, THAT'S ALL I'M, I'M LOOKING. 
          YES, THEY'RE LICENSED LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS. 
          CONTRACTORS, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THERE IS ONE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT THAT EXISTS IN THE CITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BLUFF, AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS, UM, CREATED IN RESPONSE TO THE EROSION CONTROL AND SHOCK CREEK PROJECT FROM ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. 
          THAT DOCUMENT IS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD NOW. 
          AND, UM, THERE IS, IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY A LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY WITH RESPECT TO, LET'S SAY, MAINTENANCE OF THOSE BLUFFS, UM, WITH WHATEVER THE OBJECTIVE MIGHT BE, THE AESTHETICS, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, NON-NATIVE REMOVAL AND, AND, UM, REPLACEMENT WITH NATIVE PLANTS. 
          I DO KNOW THAT THE PARKS REC MARINE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE VERY SPECIFIC PROCEDURES FOR OTHER ASPECTS OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS OF LONG BEACH UNDER THE CARE AND UNDER THE CONTRACT OF THE MARINE BUREAU AND THE STEWARDS. 
          IS THERE ANY PLAN TO DEVELOP A PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BLUFF PARK SLOPES THAT WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH OTHER PROCEDURES THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS FOR OTHER ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS OF LONG BEACH? JUST ASKING? YES. 
          WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, UH, LOOK AND WORK TO 
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UPDATE THAT 2015 LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO BRING IT, UH, MORE IN ALIGNMENT AND A SCOPE WITH 2024, UM, OF THE, THE WANTS, NEEDS AND WELLBEING OF OUR ENVIRONMENT IN 2015 IS NOT THE SAME AS IT IS IN 2024. 
          UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. 
          UH, SO WHAT I WANT TO DO, AND WHAT WE WILL WE'LL DO AS, AS A GROUP, IS SPECIFICALLY ALIGN OUR MANAGEMENT AND CARE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, ONLY SENSE OF AREAS, UH, WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND OUR LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE, UH, RESILIENCY PROGRAM THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT. 
          AND YOU, UH, STUFF WILL BE COMING YOUR GUYS' WAY OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAR TO REALLY LOOK AT AND DEVELOP AND ENHANCE THAT SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT MORE SO PROBABLY A, A MANAGEMENT PLAN OF OUR ENTIRE FOOTPRINT. 
          WELL, AND I MEAN, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF 10 YEARS LATER WHERE WE ARE NOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD'VE THROWN UP CONCRETE TO PROTECT A BLUFF. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S ON ITS WAY OUT. 
          SO I GUESS I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE EVOLVE. 
          WELL, ONE, ONE ASPECT OF THIS, UH, NATIVE PLANT RESTORATION WAS WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE SHOCK CREEK. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          AND, AND THE, THE POINT OF GETTING THIS JUTE NETTING OUT THERE AND, AND GETTING OUT THE NON-NATIVES AND PUTTING IN THE NATIVES IS TO RESTORE AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THIS, THIS, UH, RESTORATION IS GONNA GO A LONG WAY TO MAINTAIN THAT PORTION OF THE, THE BLUFF SLOPE, UH, IN A ORGANIC MANNER FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. 
          WHICH I THINK AT ONE POINT THERE WAS PLANS TO PUT UP MORE OF THAT CONCRETE STUFF BACK WHEN IT WAS BEING PROPOSED. 
          SO IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT DIED OF QUIET DEATH. 
          AND I, I MEAN, THE GOOD AND THE BAD ABOUT BEING ME AND HAVING LIVED HERE FOR SO LONG, PEOPLE LOVE THE COLORADO LAGOON, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN THE PLAN WAS JUST TO MAKE IT INTO A DRAINAGE DITCH MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND NOW PEOPLE LOVE IT AND, YOU KNOW, CAN, AND IT'S BECOME THIS GREAT COMMUNITY RESOURCE. 
          SO I'M ALWAYS HAPPY WHEN I SEE OUR CITY MOVING TOWARDS SORT OF LOOKING AT A MORE NATURE BASED AND SORT OF SORT OF COMPREHENSIVE COHESIVE MANAGEMENT OF OUR RESOURCES. 
          I HAD A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UM, I WANTED TO ASK, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE PLANS TO DO A SIMILAR PROJECT ON 30 THAT WE'RE NOW CURRENTLY SEEING ON 36 TO OTHER BLUFF SLOPES ALONG BLUFF PARK? NO. 
          UH, THAT WAS THE LAST PORTION OF THE BLUFF THAT WAS NOT, UH, UNDER OUR MAINTENANCE CARE. 
          AND, UH, WITH THIS RESTORATION, WE'RE BRINGING IT UNDER OUR PURVIEW, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF THE BLUFF TO THE STAND. 
          SAME STANDARD. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, WHAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS PROJECT, THE 36TH PLACE BLUFF? WHAT WAS, YEAH, WHAT WAS DRIVING THE NEED TO REMOVE THE VEGETATION ON THAT SLOPE SPECIFICALLY? UH, GO AHEAD. 
          I THINK IT, UH, A LITTLE BIT BACK TO TODD'S PREVIOUS, UM, POINT WAS JUST TO MAKE IT, UM, INTO THE, THE, THE SAME CONDITIONS AS THE REST OF THE SLOPE AND IDENTIFYING AREAS, UM, OF PLANT PALLETS IN DIFFERENT ZONES SO THAT WE CAN, UM, PROVIDE THAT SCOPE OF WORK AND THAT, UM, THAT MAINTENANCE TOWARDS THE CONTRACTOR AND KEEP IT ALL WITHIN A SIMILAR, UM, KIND OF ENVIRONMENT IS ONE. 
          AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMPLAINTS THERE, UM, THAT I WAS, UH, TOLD ABOUT FROM HOMEOWNERS AND OVERGROWTH AND JUST KIND OF UNSIGHTLY, UH, CONDITIONS. 
          AND, UM, I THINK AN EARLIER QUESTION GOES TO THE, THE STEWARDS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE A MONTHLY REPORT TO THE MARINE, OR WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, AND THEY'RE OBSERVING IMPROVEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, THE SHORTS OF THINGS THAT WOULD GO WITH A MAINTENANCE PROJECT. 
          YOU HAVE, THERE ARE REPORTS THAT CAME BY WAY OF THE STEWARDS TO HELP CITY MANAGEMENT BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN ALONG THAT BLUFF OVER THE COURSE OF TIME. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I I SUSPECT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, RIGHT? THERE WERE SOME, THERE WERE SOME POTENTIAL REPORTS, INFORMATION THAT WAS COMING TO CITY MANAGEMENT TO HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A NEED TO REMOVE ALL OF THE VEGETATION AND, AND DO A COMPLETE RESTORATION. 
          YES. 
          I THINK, UH, SOME OF THOSE REPORTS DIDN'T NECESSARILY COME FROM LOS CERRITOS, UH, AS FAR AS COMPLAINTS FROM HOMEOWNERS AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT WAS COMING DIRECTLY TO US. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, ONCE KIND OF THAT PROJECT MOVED FORWARD, 
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WE INCORPORATED LOS CERRITOS TO KIND OF GIVE US A PLAN OF, UH, THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MANAGING THOSE COMPLAINTS AND AS WELL AS INCORPORATING THAT MAINTENANCE, UH, AND THAT, UH, LANDSCAPE INTO THE CURRENT SCOPE OF THE BLUFF, UH, ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND I, I'LL PROMISE TO BE BRIEF, THERE ARE, THERE IS A PLANT PALLET WITHIN THE BLUFF PARK BLUFF MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          IT'S GOT SUCH A RING TIME , IT'S A LOT, UM, UH, FROM 2015 THAT CALLS OUT THE PLANT PALLET UNDER WHICH THE BLUFFS ARE TO BE MAINTAINED. 
          UM, AND THROUGH MY OBSERVATION, THERE ARE PLANTS NOW AS PART OF THE NEW PLANT PALLET ON THE 36TH PLACE BLUFF THAT ARE NOT PART OF THAT MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          AND I'M CALLING OUT SPECIFICALLY MY CONCERN FOR CACTUS, UH, PRICKLY PEAR AND CHOA, WHICH ARE ABSOLUTELY NATIVE PLANTS. 
          THEN THEY ARE, UH, DROUGHT TOLERANT, AND THEY ARE, UM, UH, HABITAT ON COASTAL BLUFFS IN CALIFORNIA. 
          YET THEY ARE NOT CALLED OUT IN THE BLUFF MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          SO, UM, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS GREAT CONCERN FOR THE SORT OF THE AESTHETIC QUALITY OF CACTUS BEING PLANTED ALONG HANDRAILS, WHICH IS THE MAIN VERTICAL ACCESS TO OUR BEACHES, OUR PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          UM, THE BENEFIT OF THE CACTUS VERSUS THE OPPORTUNITY BEING LOST FOR OTHER NATIVE PLANTS THAT COULD BE THE SAME SORT OF BARRIER, THE SAME SORT OF, UM, UH, NOTION THAT IT WOULD PREVENT, UH, SOMEONE FROM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INVITING THEMSELVES OVER THE RAIL, WHICH POTENTIALLY I SUSPECT THAT THE CACTUS MIGHT PREVENT. 
          THERE. 
          THERE ARE CACTUSES THERE. 
          THERE ARE, AND THEY ARE NON-NATIVES, UM, THAT THE LEY PARISHS IN THAT THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE PLANT PALATE. 
          THEY ARE NATIVES, BUT THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PLANT PALATE. 
          UM, THERE ARE, THERE'S CACTUS ALL OVER THOSE GLOVES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          EVEN ON THE NEW, NEW SIDE THAT WE LOOKED, THERE'S CACTUSES THAT WERE PLANTED THERE TOO. 
          COMMISSIONER KARE, YOUR QUESTION. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE THE CHOICE OF CERTAIN PLANTS ALONG THAT BLUFF RIGHT NOW? CAN WE, UM, UH, CAN, CAN THERE BE A DECISION OR COULD THERE BE A REVIEW OF THE PLANTS THAT WERE CHOSEN, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE CACTUS, UM, KNOWING THAT THERE COULD, THAT THERE ARE BENEFITS BEING LOST BY NOT PUTTING IN PLANTS THAT ARE PART OF THE PLANT PALETTE. 
          AND I'M REFERRING TO THE SORT OF AESTHETIC QUALITY OF THE, THE NATIVE COASTAL BLUFF PLANTS THAT ARE PART OF THE PALLET AND THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT THAT THE CITY HAS. 
          SO I'LL TAKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE ISSUE HERE IS, IS WE HAVE A CONTRACTED ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA CONTRACTOR OF THE CER WETLAND STUDENTS. 
          AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR UPWARDS OF 35, 40 YEARS MAINTAINING COASTAL AREAS, NOT JUST IN LONG BEACH, BUT UP AND DOWN THE COAST. 
          UM, THEY HAVE THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THEY, THEY USE THAT, AND WE USE THAT AS A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND A GUIDELINES, UH, AS LONG AS WE ARE USING NATIVE SPECIES AND, UH, THEIR MORE COASTAL AREAS, AND WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY BELONG ON A, YOU KNOW, UH, WE CAN DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN AS LONG AS WE'RE STAYING TO THE BEST MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT PRACTICES OF IT. 
          UM, MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN WITH OPENING UP A, AN AREA, ANY AREA IN OUR LANDSCAPE PROJECT TO WIDESPREAD OPPORTUNITY FOR, HEY, DO THIS, PUT THIS, BUT THIS, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO PLANT ANYTHING. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SIMPLY SAY THAT I THINK THAT THE CONTRACTOR MAY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF DISCRETION WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN PLANTS THAT WENT IN ON THAT SLOPE PERSONALLY. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, FUNDAMENTALLY LOOK AT THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE WITH RESPECT TO, UM, COASTAL BLUFF RESTORATION PROJECTS. 
          MOVING AHEAD. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO A POINT IN OUR AGENDA WHERE WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT 
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THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION'S ABILITY TO ASSIST IN THAT PROCESS AS WE MOVE AHEAD. 
          UM, THE, THE JEW MATERIAL THAT COVERS THE BLUFF RIGHT NOW IS DEFINITELY AN EROSION CONTROL TOOL. 
          IT'S A RESOURCE, RIGHT, THAT GOES IN ON THOSE SORTS OF SLOPES IN, UH, THE COASTAL, ANY KIND OF SLOPE ENVIRONMENT WHERE POTENTIAL EROSION TAKES PLACE. 
          UM, I WONDER AT THE, UM, COSTS THAT WENT INTO THAT KIND OF MATERIAL. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL FOR IMPROVING PROJECTS AS WE MOVE AHEAD ON OUR COASTAL BLUFFS, WHICH ARE, I THINK EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS. 
          UM, THAT IS MATERIAL THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE SLOPE FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS BEFORE IT FINALLY DEGRADES THE MATERIAL THAT WAS RE REMOVED. 
          COMMISSIONER MARINA, JUST, UH, TO HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND, IT WAS INSTALLED BY A CITY CONTRACTOR INVOLVED WITH, IN INSTALLING AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM PROBABLY BETWEEN 10 AND 15 YEARS AGO. 
          THEY WERE THE SAME MATERIAL APPEARS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HANDRAIL ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE, THE, UM, VERTICAL ACCESS STAIRCASE ALL INSTALLED BY A CITY CONTRACTOR IN THE COURSE OF INSTALLING AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM. 
          AND MY FINAL QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM NOW PROPOSED FOR THE 36TH PLACE BLUFF? UH, RIGHT NOW IT IS HAND WATERING. 
          UM, THERE IS NOT A CITY, UM, UH, WATER LINE THERE CURRENTLY. 
          IT, PAST IRRIGATION WAS CONNECTED TO THE, THE HOMO, UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ON, ON A PRIVATE WATER LINE. 
          SO, UH, THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY HAND WATERING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WILL LOOK INTO THE FUTURE OF INSTALLING A, UH, AN IRRIGATION, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A FULL SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BLUFF. 
          IT'D BE A, A VERY SIMPLE SYSTEM. 
          AND WHAT WOULD THE SOURCE OF THE WATER BE? UH, IT WOULD BE COMING FROM THE CITY SIDE. 
          THEN AT THAT POINT, OUR RE OUR RECYCLED WATER FROM, UH, THE BLUFF, UH, PARK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND, AND OKAY. 
          THIS AREA IS WITHIN THE CITY'S LOCAL COASTAL PLAN. 
          IT'S ALL SUBJECT TO, UM, THE COASTAL ACT, UH, REQUIREMENTS AS, UM, UH, TODD ADVISED, UM, THAT INSTALLATION OF AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM COULD LIKELY TRIGGER THE NEED FOR A LOCAL COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UM, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I ALSO LIKE TO, TOWARD THE SITE, AND I HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT THE SITE IN PRIOR YEARS, UM, MOSTLY ABOUT JUST ITS APPEARANCE AND HOW IT DIDN'T SEEM TO MATCH ANY OF THE OTHER BLUFF AREAS. 
          SO I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING TO HAVE DONE ABOUT IT. 
          I WAS ALSO ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT PLASTIC WASN'T PUT DOWN LIKE THE OTHER AREAS BECAUSE I DID COMPLAIN TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR PREDECESSOR THOUGHT ABOUT THE APPEARANCE OF IT. 
          'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE, YOU'RE WALKING AROUND, YOU'RE NOT AS CLOSE. 
          AND IT TO ME LOOKED LIKE IT WAS JUST FIST QUEEN ON A HILLSIDE AND IT, AT THE RIGHT TIME OF DAY, IT WAS SHINY. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE PEOPLE PUT, YOU KNOW, TRASH BAGS ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          SO IT IS A MUCH BETTER APPEARANCE. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE WAS A LONG-TERM EFFORT TO REMOVE THE EXISTING PLASTIC THAT WAS IN THE OTHER PARTS AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE DOWN. 
          UM, THERE'S NO BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, VERY LITTLE BENEFIT TO HAVING JUST PLASTIC ON THE GROUND. 
          UM, THAT, THAT SAID, I THINK THAT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE, UH, ACTIONS THAT HAPPENED THERE. 
          THAT, AND THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THE PLAN IS, UH, ABOUT A DECADE OLD AND PROBABLY COULD USE, UH, AN UPDATE, UM, AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MAC TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHAT SORT OF, AND TO PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR STAFF AS TO WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS OF THE MAC AND THEREFORE SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO, WHO LIVE AROUND THAT RESTORED AREA, UM, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN AN UPDATED PLAN, WHETHER THAT'S A DIFFERENT PLANT PALETTE OR AMENDMENTS TO PLANT PALETTE. 
          I THINK ANOTHER THING WOULD BE BETTER OR IMPROVED COMMUNICATION. 
          UM, WHETHER IT'S AS SIMPLE AS SMALL SIGNAGE OR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC, IF THEY HAVE A CONCERN TO BE HEARD, UM, SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, ADVANCE NOTICE, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, DEPENDING ON HOW BROAD YOU WANT TO GET, CAN 
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BE RATHER EXPENSIVE. 
          BUT NONETHELESS, I MEAN, PROVIDING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A QR CODE OR SOMETHING TO LOG THEIR CONCERNS IN ON A SIMPLE WEBSITE OR PAGE OF THE MARINE ADVISORY OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER SOMEONE'S AGGRAVATED, THEY CAN COME HERE AND TALK TO US TOO ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT IT. 
          SO IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS, UM, WE COULD HAVE, AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST HAD, UH, SMALL SUBCOMMITTEES TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAC. 
          IF THEY ARE APPROVED, THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO THE MARINE BUREAU FOR A REVIEW AND THEN SEND IT UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL IF NECESSARY. 
          BUT IF THIS IS GONNA BE AS SIMPLE AS WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, TODD EXPECTS TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ANYWAY, WE CAN SORT OF IN A FEW, LIKE A MONTH OR TWO OR SOMETHING, IF THERE'S SUFFICIENT INTEREST, GET THE MAC, THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMISSION, OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE CAN PRESENT THOSE TO TODD AND THOSE CAN BE PART OF HIS UPDATE, UH, TO THE PACKAGE. 
          TODD. 
          SO COMMISSIONERS, I WANNA SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST, SINCE I'VE COME AND COME ON WITH THE MARINE BUREAU, UH, IN 2019, I'VE RECOGNIZED YOUR GUYS' COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE ACTION AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE, AND WE COULD'VE COMMUNICATED BETTER. 
          UH, WE, WE DID THE PROGRAM AT THE, UH, AT THE ART MUSEUM, THE BASE THERE, BUT WE NEEDED TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE BASE OF THE ART MUSEUM AND 36 PLACE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS, UH, BECAUSE ONE WAS BARE AND THE OTHER ONE DID HAVE, UH, STANDING HABITAT. 
          UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO OUR, UH, CONSULTANT THAT DID THE 2015 STUDY. 
          THEY'RE STILL A CITY CONTRACTOR. 
          THEY WORK AT THE COLORADO LAGOON. 
          UH, THEY WORK PARTNER WITH US AND THE MARINE BUREAU. 
          I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THEM AND START THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE 2015, UH, LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE BLUFF AND THEN BRING THEM HERE TO YOU THROUGH THAT CONSULTANCY TO START THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU, UH, TO BE A PROPONENT AND A PARTNER IN DEVELOPING THE UPDATED VERSION OF THAT PROGRAM. 
          IS THAT TITLE INFLUENCE? TITLE INFLUENCE? OKAY. 
          WELL, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSION SO I CAN, IS THAT, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE STEWARDS. 
          THEY ARE THE CONTRACTOR THAT MANAGES THE SPACE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, TITLE INFLUENCE WAS OUR, UH, OUR, UH, ECOLOGICAL CONSULTANT ON THE 2015 PROJECT THAT I GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THERE BEING A DELAY WITH THAT AND MAYBE WE HAVE SOME OPINIONS ALREADY IN WITHIN OUR COMMISSION THAT WE MAY WANT A COMMITTEE TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME INPUT FIRST. 
          UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THE NOTION OF A MAX SUBCOMMITTEE TO HELP GUIDE FUTURE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES ALONG THE  BLOCKS TO HELP THE MARINE ADVISORY OR THE MARINE BUREAU. 
          AND THE, PARTICULARLY THE NOTION THAT WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHO THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE GOING INTO THE FUTURE WITH RESPECT TO THOSE WHO WILL HOLD THE CONTRACT FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT WORK, FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE, UH, HABITAT. 
          SO, UM, THE NOTION OF BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP SOME GUIDANCE, WELL IMPROVED, UH, MORE, UM, UH, UM, DOCUMENTED AND DETAILED, UM, MAINTENANCE, UM, AND SUGGESTIONS FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT HABITAT THINK WOULD BE A GREAT THING THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE COULD ADDRESS. 
          UM, THERE ARE OTHER COASTAL BLUFF HABITAT SPECIALISTS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN CALIFORNIA, IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WITHIN 30 MILES OF HERE, WHO HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH COASTAL BLUFF RESTORATION PROJECTS IN OTHER CITIES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHO COULD ALSO BE A GREAT RESOURCE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE FOLKS WHO WROTE THE ORIGINAL GUIDANCE DOCUMENT IN 2015, WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE WITH RESPECT TO THE KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON COASTAL GLOVES. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS. 
          DOES, DOES IT GO OUT TO RFA TO REQUEST FOR, UH, FUNDS WHEN THEY DO IT? IS IT EVERY FIVE YEARS? IS IT EVERY YEAR? UM, HOW LONG IS THE CONTRACT? I MEAN, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE COULD COME IN AND BID 
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ON? 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S ALL A BID PROCESS. 
          IT'S NOT JUST GOING OUT AND GETTING SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND DO IT, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT FUNDS. 
          SO ARE WE TALKING, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA, LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A CONSULTANT TO COME IN TO DO BOTH? I WAS REFERRING TO A CONSULTANT. 
          CONSULTANT, YEAH, BOTH. 
          WE CAN, I'M, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO, THAT CONTRACT IS ONGOING. 
          SO THEY WERE GIVEN A TWO YEAR CONTRACT IN 2021, AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY RENEWED FOR THREE MORE TIMES AT TWO YEAR INCREMENTS. 
          SO UNLESS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, WHAT THE CITY'S POLICY ARE IS WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, AUTOMATIC RENEWAL OR REVIEW IN A, UH, RENEWAL. 
          OR DOES IT GO TO OPEN BID AGAIN BEFORE ANOTHER RENEWAL? WHO'S TO SAY? BUT, UM, THE IDEA IS THAT THERE IS A CURRENT CONTRACT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS, IS DESIGNED TO IMPACT THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THE, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT CONTRACT, IT'S MORE, IT GOES MORE TO THE INTERNAL PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY TO GUIDE THAT CONTRACTOR AND THE WORK THAT THEY ARE PERFORMING AND TO, UM, UPDATE A DOCUMENT THAT THAT VENDOR IS NOW RELYING ON, WHICH IS GOING ON CLOSE ON 10 YEARS. 
          SO, TO, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IS, IF WE WENT WITH TITLE INFLUENCE AND COMMISSIONER MURRAY TO ANSWER YOUR, UH, RESERVATION ABOUT, ABOUT TIMELINESS IS IF WE GO WITH TITLE INFLUENCE TO COME BACK, TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR 2015 STUDY AND, YOU KNOW, HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH UPGRADING OR UPDATING, UH, THAT WOULD BE A VERY QUICK PROCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE A CITY VENDOR. 
          UH, THEY ARE ON CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, AND WE CAN MOVE RATHER QUICKLY WITH THAT IF WE'RE TO, IF WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT OTHER, UH, UH, LIKE CONSULTANTS WE HAVE ON OUR ON, ON CALL AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ONE OF THEM. 
          UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THOSE, IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, THAT'S GOING TO, IF WE WANT TO GET MORE OF A VOICE WITH OTHER CONSULTANTS, THAT'S WHEN WE WERE MORE LIKE, MORE THAN LIKELY GONNA HAVE TO GO TO AN RFP AND THEN THAT'S GONNA TAKE MONTHS. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE QUICKLY. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH TITLE INFLUENCE AND BRING BACK, POTENTIALLY BRING THEM BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH AND HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PLAN RIGHT NOW. 
          I WILL LOOK INTO THE POTENTIAL OF SECONDARY AND OTHER, UH, LOCAL, UH, UH, CONSULTANCIES THAT MAY BE ABLE TO COME IN AND HELP US. 
          BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO, I WANT TO MOVE QUICKLY AND TITLE INFLUENCE IS MORE THAN LIKELY THAT QUICK PATHWAY. 
          WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I MAY GO AHEAD TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE MATH TO, UM, OFFER SOME GUIDANCE ON FUTURE BLUFF SLOPE RESTORATION PROJECT AND OFFER PARKS, REC AND MARINE, UM, IN KEEPING WITH THEIR CURRENT LEVEL OF DETAIL OF PROCEDURES. 
          UM, A SIMILAR STYLE DOCUMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE VENDOR'S WORK IN AND ON OUR COASTAL GLOVES. 
          I SECOND. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, I'M PRETTY LIMITED IN WHAT I CAN SAY AFTER I CAN, I THINK. 
          NOPE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT TO A VOTE YET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE LAW DOESN'T GO TO A VOTE YET. 
          YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, SO, OKAY. 
          UH, WE CAN TAKE THE MOTION. 
          I KNOW, I WAS IMPRESSED, HUH? YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          RUB RULES. 
          HE'S SUCH A ROBERTS RULES. 
          RULES. 
          YEAH. 
          I'VE LEARNED THE HARD WAY . 
          YEAH, NO, ME TOO. 
          WE HAD TO SCHOOL THAT BOY. 
          SO THE, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT IS, WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IS A PLAN FOR MAINTAINING THE BLUFF. 
          NOW WE CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AN UPDATE OF THE PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          I'M, I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          I THINK THE, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL STUFF ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD, I THINK YOU HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD TO A LEVEL, AND I'M OPEN TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, JUST SAYING. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT MY, MY CONCEPT IS REFERENCING OTHER EXISTING PARKS, REC AND MARINE GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS FOR VENDORS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF, FOR EXAMPLE, 
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GOLF COURSE LAKES AND PONDS. 
          UM, THE, THE UPDATE OF A 2015 GUIDANCE DOCUMENT TO A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT COULD ASSIST A VENDOR TODAY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF US WHO I KNOW I'M NOT QUALIFIED THAT NO. 
          TO KNOW WHAT IS SUFFICIENT FOR A VENDOR IN A PLAN TO KNOW WHETHER I'M GONNA LIKE PUT A MR. CHAIR. 
          I, I THINK IT'S MORE OF HAVING THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO APPOINT YOU AS CHAIR. 
          I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU TO BE CHAIR. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S MORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ASKING QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHEN WE COME TO OUR MEETINGS LIKE THIS, YEAH. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE ANSWERS. 
          THIS IS LIKE WHEN I, I DO THE MAINTENANCE. 
          IT'S JUST ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT MAY BE BIMONTHLY. 
          THEY NEED, OR, YOU KNOW, THREE TIMES A YEAR MORE FOCUSED. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S JUST, AND THEY BRING BACK INFORMATION TO THE GROUP THAT WE'RE NOT GUESSING AND, AND HAVING TO HAVE TODD COME BACK. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE. 
          AM I CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEFINE THE SCOPE OF YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE, YOUR, YOUR SETTING A MOTION TO CREATE A, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND YOU CREATE, YOU JUST HAVE TO TITLE IT. 
          SO HOW YOU WISH TO TITLE IT WOULD BE, UH, I'VE MOVED TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO STUDY, EXPLORE BLUFF PARK BLUFF, SLOPE MAINTENANCE AND CARE. 
          I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE SIMPLER YES, THE THE EASIER. 
          SO I, SO IF YOU WANT TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, DISCUSS OR COME BACK OR RECOMMEND TO THE MAC YOUR FINDINGS ON, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARDS OF THE CLUB PARK, HOW TO UPDATE THE PLAN AND MAYBE BEST PRACTICES ELSEWHERE. 
          UH, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND, I SECOND THAT. 
          I WILL ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO CREATE A AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE TO STUDY PERFECT BLUFF PARK SLOPE MAINTENANCE. 
          PERFECT. 
          SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE. 
          WHO'S, OH, WE'LL PICK IT AFTER. 
          WE ONLY HAVE THREE. 
          WELL WE CAN HAVE FOUR, RIGHT? IT'S LESS UP TO FOUR BECAUSE WE HAVE YEAH, UP TO FOUR. 
          UP TO FOUR. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO PICK THEM NOW BEFORE YOU GO TO WE DO. 
          I HAVE TO NAME 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO COMMISSIONER, SHE BEAT YOU. 
          VOLUNTEER. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SO ANA ELSE WHO? ANA. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER CAGER. 
          ANYONE ELSE FOR? I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY TIME. 
          YOU HAVE LOTS OF TIME. 
          COME ON. 
          YOU'VE GOT A MACBOOK. 
          I MEAN, I GUESS I CAN, UH, BE A PART OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT IT'D BE REALLY GREAT IF THERE COULD BE SOMEONE ELSE AS WELL. 
          I MEAN, I'M JUST REALLY SWAMPED IN MY PERSONAL LIFE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE A SECOND PERSON ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEED A THIRD? I, THIS IS ALL IS REALLY LOOKING LIKE, I KNOW. 
          LOOK AT THAT SMILE. 
          I JUST THINK IT'S JUST, YEAH, SABRINA SAVALA LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING. 
          ME. 
          SHE WON'T MAKE IT. 
          SHE WON'T. 
          SHE WON'T GO. 
          YES. 
          WE CAN'T COMMIT SABRINA. 
          I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN'T COMMIT HER. 
          WE HAVE HAVE THREE TOO. 
          SUFFICIENT ESTABLISH I THINK WOULD BE, SHE'S, SHE'S A LIFEGUARD AND WORKS FOR THE CITY, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HARD. 
          YEAH, TOO SUFFICIENT. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALRIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTIONS CARRIED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OH WAIT, IS THIS RECEIVING FILE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NO PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. 
          PUBLIC SUPPOSED TO, YOU STILL HAVE THEM PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON THE PARK BLUFF STUFF? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION REGARDING THE HARBOR. 
          SIR, WE STILL HAVE TO, UM, MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY OBJECTS DONE THAT IS RECEIVED AND FILED AND I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS MY FAULT. 
          BUT YOU NEED TO MOTION AND YOU NEED TO MOTION AND SECOND BEFORE WE DO IT FOR THE NEXT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
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SO NOW RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION REGARDING HARVARD LIFE ARENA. 
          OKAY, SO NOW YOU HAVE TO, UH, WHAT WAS IT AGAIN? RECEIVED MY FILE. 
          AND THEN TO SAY YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION REGARDING HARBOR LAKE MARINA. 
          UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? OH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY, NOW YOU'RE READY. 
          OPEN TO DISCUSSION. 
          GREAT. 
          LET'S HEAR IT. 
          UM, SO WE'VE HAD SOME ACTIVITY WITH, UH, SOME, UH, NEWS REPORTS OF, UH, DEBRIS ON OUR BEACH. 
          UH, WE CANNOT SAY WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAINTY WHAT THE CONCRETE BLOCK WHERE IT CAME FROM, BUT WE DO HAVE A HEALTHY SUSPICION OKAY. 
          OF ITS ORIGIN. 
          UM, UH, HARBOR LIGHTS MARINA IS LOCATED NEXT TO THE HOTEL MAYA. 
          IT IS PART OF A TWO PARCEL LEASE AREA THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UH, LEASES OUT TO A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT FIRM THAT THEN SUBLEASES TO THE HOTEL MAYA IN PARCEL A AND THE HOTEL MAYA, ACTUALLY HOTEL MAYA DOES PARTIAL A AND PARTIAL PARCEL B. 
          AND THE HOTEL MAYA SUBLEASES THE ON WATER ACTIVITY AT THAT LOCATION. 
          THE MARINA INCLUDED TO A MAR A PRIVATE MARINO ORGANIZATION. 
          UH, CURRENTLY THAT MARINA IS IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR. 
          UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THIS. 
          AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE PRIMARY, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT HOLDER, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FIRM TO AFFECT A CAPITAL PLAN TO IMPROVE THAT AREA. 
          UH, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE MARINE BUREAU HAS AT THAT LEVEL NOW. 
          BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU SO YOU COULD DISCUSS THE AREA AND, UH, JUST KIND OF HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SPACE AND ITS EFFECT ON OUR COASTAL ENVIRONMENT. 
          BACK TO YOU CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL SAY THAT I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THE MARINE BUREAU 'CAUSE I RAISED THIS A SIGNIFICANT TIME AGO, LIKE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO. 
          AND MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT HARBOR LIGHT MARINA, AND I'M NOT, THIS IS NOT PERSONAL TO UTAH, OH, OF COURSE THIS'S NOTHING. 
          OF COURSE IT DOESN'T INVOLVE YOU AT THIS POINT, BUT AT THE TIME WHEN I WAS COMPLAINING A NAUSEUM ABOUT THAT PLACE AND HOW IT LOOKED AND WHAT THE CITY COULD DO ABOUT IT, THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS THE COUNTY, THAT IT WAS NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE MAC AND THAT IT WAS NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT WE WERE TOLD TO, IF WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE IT WITH JANICE. 
          HA. 
          AND THAT IS, SO LEARNING ABOUT IT IN, IN PRESS RELEASES, IN STATEMENTS ON LIKE K THROUGH THE CITY ON KNBC, THAT IT THE WHOLE TIME THE CITY DID HAVE SOME ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, IS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING. 
          NOT WITH ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM. 
          SO, I MEAN, PERHAPS IF THIS WAS DEALT WITH EARLIER, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A WHAT NBC IS TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL BUS SIZE PIECE OF CONCRETE ON THE BEACH. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO DISAPPOINTING GIVING THE, GIVEN THE LOCATION OF IT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO VISIT LONG BEACH AND GO TO THE HOTEL MAYA, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT, AND GO TO THE QUEEN MARY, WHICH IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          AND I TOOK MY OWN FAMILY THERE WHEN MY KIDS WERE LITTLE AND WALKED AROUND AND SAW THAT MARINA IN DISREPAIR AND RAISED MY CONCERNS ABOUT IT. 
          ESPECIALLY WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO LONG BEACH AND IF THEY THINK THAT IS THE CONDITION OF A MARINA IN LONG BEACH, I MEAN, IT MIGHT AS WELL KNOW DISRESPECT TO WILMINGTON, BUT , I THINK WE ALL KNOW THE REPUTATION OF SOME WILMINGTON MARINAS. 
          SOME, YEAH. 
           NOT MANY. 
          OKAY. 
          MANY. 
          AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A BIT OF AN INSULT TO ALL THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DOES FOR LONG BEACH. 
          YOUR OWN, YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN STAFF ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL AND ATTENTION AND MONEY AND DEDICATION THEY HAVE THAT THEY PLOW INTO THE, OUR OWN MARINAS LIKE, 
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YOU KNOW, SHORELINE, ALAMEDAS BAY. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THE CITY DOESN'T RUN THAT MARINA, BUT THE CITY'S ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. 
          IF IT'S A TENANT OF THE HILTON OF THE HOTEL MONEY. 
          I, I, THIS IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BLACK EYE FOR THE CITY AND HOW IT GOT TO THAT CONDITION. 
          I, THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER ANSWERS BECAUSE WHEN WE ASKED, WE WERE TOLD IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          AND SO WHETHER THE HILTON IS GONNA SPEND THE MONEY TO IMPROVE IT, I DOUBT IT. 
          I WOULDN'T, I'D JUST GET RID OF IT. 
          IT'S 12, 12 SLIPS OR 14 SLIPS OR SOMETHING. 
          31 1 BOATS WERE RELOCATED OUT 31 TO SAN DIEGO AND THERE'S STILL BOATS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE, THE CITY HAS, I WOULD ASSUME, BEEN TAKING IN REVENUE FROM THAT LEASE IT HAD WITH THE MARINA AND NOT BEEN PROVIDING ADEQUATE OVERSIGHT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW NOT WHAT YOU ARE GONNA DO ABOUT IT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY I DON'T THINK THIS FALLS ON YOU. 
          BUT WHAT IS THOSE, WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GONNA DO AND HOW ARE THEY GONNA LOOP IT IN TO YOUR OVERSIGHT? IF YOU KNOW MARINAS, YOUR STAFF KNOWS WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE FOR MARINAS AND ANY MARINA UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY ULTIMATELY SHOULD MEET YOUR STANDARDS BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ANSWER FOR IT. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHETHER IF A MAC CAN DO ANYTHING TO SUPPORT YOU, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN INSULT TO THE MARINE BUREAU AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE. 
          UH, AGAIN, I'LL SAY IF I, IF I CAME THERE, I WOULD THINK THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT LONG BEACH HOLDS ITSELF TO, BECAUSE EVIDENTLY IT'S THE STANDARD THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS HOLDING ITSELF TO AND IT'S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 
          SO IF, IF THE MAC OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN COASTAL AREAS WITHIN IN THE CITY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH BOATS WITHIN THE CITY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH RUNNING BUSINESSES IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THE MAT CAN PUT A LETTER TOGETHER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SAYING, LOOK, LOOK AT THE MARINE BUREAU, MEET THESE STANDARDS, OR DON'T LEASE IT. 
          IF YOU CAN'T MEET THE STANDARDS, THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE PART OF A LEASE. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE 30 VOTES OUT THERE, WHERE ARE THE FUNDS GOING FROM THOSE VOTES? IF I, I AGREE. 
          I WAS A PART OF THE COMMITTEE WHEN THEY SAID THAT JANICE ON SAYS, LET ME CALL JANICE ON, THEY SAID, OH, NO, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          BUT WHO GETS THE MONEY FROM THOSE, FROM THE, SO, SO DO WE LEASE 'EM? HOWEVER, IS IT OURS? YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, IT'S, IT'S LIKE FOUR LAYERS, LEVELS OF, OF LEASE, UH, THE, THE LEASE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FIRM, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S A LONG, THAT'S A LONG TIME LEASE THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE I BELIEVE THE EIGHTIES. 
          UM, UH, SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE FINANCIALS OF IT, BUT IF THE, IT WAS PROBABLY A VERY, VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY LEASE FROM THE EIGHTIES, UH, THAT IS STILL IN PLACE. 
          SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CITY IS PULLING A GREAT DEAL OF REVENUE FROM THAT, UH, TO SUPPORT A CAPITAL PROJECT REBUILD THAT MARINA. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN ADDRESS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE HOW MUCH MONEY'S BEING CREATED IS, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU. 
          WELL, JUST HAVING THE CEMENT, I WAS BLOWN AWAY WHEN I SAW IT. 
          I WENT, HOW IS THAT THING FLOATING ALL THE WAY UP? AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A CON IT'S A CONCRETE DOCK, BUT IT'S ENCASED WITH STYROFOAM AND PLASTIC. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, SO, SO THEY, THEY FLOAT THE INTERIOR. 
          SO YOU HAVE A A, A CONCRETE OUTER SKELETON THAT'S SUPPORTED BY REBAR AND THEN IN THE ENCASED IN THAT IS THE FOAM THAT IT'S WRAPPED AROUND IS, IS FOAM. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S COST FACTOR VERY MUCH TO TAKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE. 
          RIGHT, JACK HAMMERING AND, AND BREAKING IT APART AND TAKING ON SOME AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT MONEY IF YOU'RE BURING US. 
          UM, IN AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT, THE, UM, THE MAYA SAID HARBOR LIGHTS HAS A CONTRACTUAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MANAGEMENT MAINTENANCE FOR THE MARINA AND IS WORKING WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE CITY APPROVED PLAN FOR THE REPAIR AND UPKEEP OF THE MARINA. 
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SO I, I AM THINKING THAT MAYBE THAT IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT THE MAC WOULD LIKE TO SEND AN OFFICIAL LETTER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH, WITH SOME OF OUR FEELINGS AND SOME OF OUR CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY SINCE, AND INCLUDE IN IT THE PRIDE THAT WE ALL TAKE IN OUR MARINAS. 
          AND THAT WHAT A POOR REFLECTION IT IS UPON OUR MARINAS HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THEIR ACTIVITIES HAVE UNDERMINED TODD'S ABILITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MARINAS RIGHT. 
          MEETING A CERTAIN MINIMUM STANDARD. 
          AND MY, MY CONCERN AND JUST I'M BEING VERY OPEN HERE, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT SOMETHING'S GONNA COME UNDER OUR CONTROL THAT IS NOT AT THE BASE STANDARD OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUT COREY AND KELLY AND THEIR MAINTENANCE TEAMS IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING FROM A PLACE OF DISADVANTAGE. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, UH, WE'RE GONNA WATCH CLOSELY HOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          UH, WE HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THE ECONOMIC GROUP ON THIS AND WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT LIKE THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT THAT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WILL BE PUT IN PLACE THROUGH THE LEASE HOLDERS, THAT IT'S GONNA BRING THAT AREA BACK UP TO A LEVEL OF JUST BASIC, BASIC OP MAN. 
          IT'S OM BASIC , BUT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM. 
          SO WE, WE DO WANNA SAY SOMETHING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY AT LEAST NEED TO CONSULT UPON OUR OWN PEOPLE. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT ARE SO EXPERIENCED WITH DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND NOT TRY TO DISTANCE OURSELF FROM IT. 
          WE NEED TO BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED. 
          I AGREE. 
          WE CAN'T BE MONITORING IT. 
          AND THE, THE OTHER THING IS, IF THIS WAS A, IF THIS DEALT WITH THE AIRPORT MM-HMM. 
           ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I DOUBT WOULDN'T CONSULT WITH THE AIRPORT PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT YOU, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN LEVEL, A CERTAIN STANDARD FOR THE CITY. 
          THEY SHOULD BE DOING MORE THAN CONSULTING WITH YOU. 
          THEY SHOULD BE TAKING YOUR PLANS AND SAYING WHAT ARE THE MINIMUM STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED? AND THAT PLACE IS NOT OPENING UP UNLESS IT MEETS THOSE MINIMUM STANDARDS. 
          CORRECT. 
          COMMISSIONER, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ONE, IF WHEN THAT PIECE OF CONCRETE WAS OUT THERE FLOATING AND, AND THE NEWS REPORT SAID IT WAS AT LEAST A WEEK OUT THERE, IF IT HAD HIT A BOAT OR WAS IN THE PATH OF A, A SHIP OR A, A MARINE VESSEL, WHO, WHO WOULD BE LIABLE? THE THE OPERATOR? THE, WELL THE OPERATOR. 
          THE OPERATOR, THE, IF, IF THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT IN THE WATER. 
          UH, SO RIGHT NOW WE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A HEALTHY SUSPICION OF WHERE IT CAME FROM, UH, BASED ON THE EYE TEST. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO, YOU CAN'T PLACE LIABILITY ON THE EYE TEST. 
          THERE HAS TO BE MORE, IF THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT, IF THERE WAS A ACCIDENT WHICH CAUSED, UH, PROPERTY DAMAGE OR INJURY, THERE'D BE TESTING DONE ON THE, THE COMPOSITION OF IT. 
          AND THEN THEY GO TO CERTAIN AREAS AND GRAB SAMPLES FROM THOSE AREAS AND THEY MATCH, THEY MATCH THE MATERIAL OF THE CONCRETE TO THAT LOCATION AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE COMPOSITION. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE A HEALTHY SUSPICION OF WHERE IT CAME FROM AND THE EYE TEST IS PRETTY STRONG ON THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO, YOU KNOW, COMPOSITION, CHEMICAL TESTING, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, IT MAY HAVE BEEN 2022, SIMILAR CONCRETE CAME IN ON THE BEACH. 
          CORRECT. 
          IN FACT, THERE WERE TWO OF THEM. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE THE SAME STUFF FROM THE SAME PLACE. 
          UM, AS FAR AS REMOVING IT FROM THERE, UM, WITH YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS STYROFOAM WHERE THERE'S FOAM IN THERE, IT KIND OF PUTS A DAMPER ON WHAT MY SUGGESTION WAS GOING TO BE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, AFTER IT'S BROKEN UP, THERE ARE ROCK CRUSHING COMPANIES AND CRUSHING COMPANIES THAT CRUSH CEMENT AND CRUSH THAT RATHER THAN PUT IT IN A A LANDFILL, IT COULD BE CRUSHED AND THEN REUSED BETTER. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VERSUS COST IS TO ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          OUR FIRST PRIORITY RIGHT NOW IS TO BREAK IT DOWN AND 
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IN A, IN A SAFE, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY WAY. 
          THAT'S WHY WE MOVED IT OFF OF WEST BEACH TO THE BEACH MAINTENANCE FACILITY. 
          SO KELLY AND HIS TEAM HAVE MORE EQUIPMENT AT THE READY AND HANDY RIGHT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT EMANATING SMALL PARTICULANTS AND, AND MATERIAL OFF IT INTO THE GREATER BEACH AREA. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING, IT IT IS A VERY, VERY LARGE PIECE OF CONCRETE THAT POTENTIALLY WE MIGHT BE ABLE AND THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF REBAR IN THERE. 
          UM, SO THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME POTENTIAL REUSE, RECYCLE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO ANOTHER QUESTION, I'M SORRY. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO, DID WE REQUEST TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE I'M QUITE CURIOUS ON HOW THIS HAS GONE SO FAR TO EVEN BECOME THIS MUCH OF A NUISANCE. 
          AND I'M CURIOUS AROUND CONTRACTS AND I'M CURIOUS AROUND SUB LEASE AGREEMENTS. 
          UM, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M DEALING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN ANOTHER SPACE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KNOW EVEN WHO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE OF SOME CERTAIN THINGS. 
          AND SO I'M, I'M QUITE CURIOUS ON WHO, LIKE HOW WE CAN HEAR FROM THEM SPECIFICALLY AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, AND THEN, OKAY, THIS IS GONNA BE OUTLANDISH. 
          MAYBE, UM, IN ANOTHER SITUATION WE'RE GETTING THE CITY ATTORNEY INVOLVED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE NOT HOLDING UP THEIR CONTRACTS. 
          AND SO IS THAT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THIS SITUATION AS WELL? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME STANDARDS FOR MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND IF YOU'RE NOT UP KEEPING THOSE STANDARDS, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT MAY BE A CITY ATTORNEY TYPE CONSEQUENCE SITUATION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, SO THERE'S NO TEETH AND WE'RE JUST LIKE HEARING OR RECOMMENDING AND WRITING A LETTER, THEN I DON'T KNOW, AND I'M NEW TO THIS, AND I'M JUST ASKING, LIKE THINKING THROUGH LIKE, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE PAST? COULD WE GET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE? LIKE WHAT, WHAT OPTIONS KIND OF, DO WE HAVE TO REALLY LIKE, UNDERSTAND AND PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? I BELIEVE YOUR BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS THE WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MURRAY SUGGESTED IS POTENTIALLY A, A ADVISORY LETTER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERNS. 
          UH, WE DID HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF HERE LAST MONTH. 
          THEY GIVE YOU A GOOD OVERVIEW OF HOW THEY, THEY GO ABOUT THEIR, THEIR LEASE AGREEMENTS AND THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, I CAN'T PUT WORDS INTO, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY, PROPERTY AMOUNT, BUT, UM, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND A IF, IF THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION OF CHOICE. 
          I RECOMMEND YOU DO WORK TO PUSH A LETTER OF ADVISORY, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          MR. CHAIR, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE LETTERS TO THAT GROUP. 
          I MEAN, COME ON. 
          WE'VE GOT RESTROOMS THAT, THAT ARE, ARE LOCKED UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT TO OPEN RESTROOMS TO THE PUBLIC. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S UNDER THE AUSPICE OF THAT. 
          'CAUSE YOU HAVE A LEASEE THAT PROBABLY GOT IT WHEN THE EIGHTIES, LIKE YOU STATED. 
          AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO OPEN RESTROOMS FOR THE PUBLIC 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CLEAN 'EM. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'VE GOT PARKING. 
          I MEAN, MAYBE WE SHOULD START DRAFTING LETTERS AND SAYING, WE NEED YOU TO RESPOND TO THIS, TO THIS GROUP. 
          THAT'S A PERFECT, I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT THE PHONE? IS THE FOAM HAZARDOUS IN ANY WAY IF THE WORKERS ARE UP? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I SURE DON'T WANT OUR WORKERS GOING OUT THERE BREAKING IT DOWN. 
          WELL, I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR KIDS ON THE BEACH. 
          SAME THING. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I EMBARRASSED I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT ATTORNEYS. 
          THAT'S MY FREAKING JOB. 
          , I MEAN, SEPARATE, SEPARATE ISSUE. 
          BUT, UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, JOE'S ALSO RIGHT ON THIS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY OWN KIDS ON THIS AND ADULTS, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE GONNA CLIMB ALL OVER THAT THING AND JUMP OFF OF IT. 
          AND THERE'S BIG PIECES OF OLD REBAR STICKING OUT OF IT. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CHANNEL OH FOUR SAY THAT, HEY, IT'S THE SECOND, UH, UM, ATTRACTION COMPARED TO THE QUEEN MAYOR. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THEY STATED PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT, IT'S LIKE A BUS AND I'M LIKE GOING AND YOU CAN SEE THE GROUNDS OUT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE, AND I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THERE HAVEN'T BEEN LIKE, CONES AND LITTLE SIGNS, YOU KNOW, STAY OFF OR SOMETHING JUST HADN'T KICKED IN THE HEAD. 
          BUT, OH, JUST, JUST SO THE CITY PROTECTS ITS OWN AT LEAST LIABILITY AND AT LEAST HAS SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO SAY IF SOMEONE, OR WHEN SOMEONE DOES GET INJURED, WE TOLD 'EM TO STAY OFF OF IT. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING IT DOWN THE BEACH, BUT I BELIEVE, UH, WE 
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WILL, WE'LL GET CAUTION TAPE OUT ON IT, UH, UH, TODAY AND MAKE SURE THAT FIELD, WE WILL TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE HAZARD THAT IT IS. 
          INSTEAD OF A AMENITY TO BE GED. 
          WILL THE DOLLARS GO BACK TO WHATEVER IT COST, THIS, THE MARINE GROUP, WHATEVER IT COST US TO BREAK THAT DOWN. 
          WILL THAT BE SENT BACK, UM, TO THAT GROUP SAYING, YOU, IT WAS YOURS, IT BROKE UP, WE FIXED IT, OR WE DESTROYED IT AND THE COST COMES BACK TO THEM. 
          WE DID THAT THE, THE LAST TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE DO THAT AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT JUST, I, I WONDER WHAT THE STANDARD, THE CITY APPLIES TO SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S, UH, A HAZARD ON THE BEACH BECAUSE, WHAT WAS IT LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO? WASN'T IT LIKE A PADDLE BOAT THAT BROKE UP? MM-HMM. 
           CAME ONTO THE BEACH AND THEY'RE BIG PILES. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE TO, IT'S OKAY, WHAT'S A HAZARD? YOU KNOW? OR I, I'M GONNA A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE THAT'S THE CONCRETE, THAT THE CONCRETE BLOCK IS A HAZARD. 
          BUT IS IS A TWO FOOT PIECE OF, UH, FLO, IS THAT A HAZARD? DO WE HAVE TO CONE IT AND TAPE IT? IS, UH, A, A WASHED UP KELP PATTY? IS THAT A HAZARD? DO WE HAVE TO CAUTION TAPE IT? SO I'M JUST, I'M NOT TO SAY, NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO CAUTION AND TAPE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CAUTION AND TAPE. 
          WE JUST, IT, IT'S JUST BEEN A LONGSTANDING PRACTICE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF IT'S WASHED UP ON THE BEACH, IT'S GENERAL DEBRIS. 
          WHETHER IT'S A A TWO FOOT PIECE OF FUM OR A, A PADDLE BOAT. 
          AND WE WORK TO ADDRESS, GET IT OFF THE BEACH AS QUICK AS WE CAN. 
          SO THERE'S NO STANDARD. 
          NO STANDARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SHOULD THERE BE A STANDARD? YEAH, I MEAN ULTIMATELY IT'S FOR A JURY TO DECIDE. 
          I THINK WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW IS A HAZARD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK A BROKEN UP PADDLE BOAT, UH, PADDLE BOAT IS A HAZARD. 
          AND I WOULDN'T JUMP OFF OF IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE KIDS AND THEY'RE GONNA DO CRAZY STUFF. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S A TIKTOK VIDEO INVOLVED MAYBE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IT'S LIABILITY FOR THE CITY AND WARNINGS ARE THE LEAST YOU GUYS CAN DO JUST TO AT LEAST COVER YOUR OWN BUTTS ON STUFF LIKE THIS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, HOW LONG HAS THIS THING BEEN ON THE BEACH IN WHATEVER? FOUR. 
          SO FOUR WEEKS. 
          FOUR WEEKS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN MOVING IT FROM ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION OF WALK COMING ASHORE TO THE BEACH MAINTENANCE FACILITY OVER THE LAST FOUR WEEKS. 
          SO HOW MUCH LONGER IS IT GONNA BE THERE? KELLY? DO YOU HAVE A, UH, WE'LL START DEMO WORK NEXT WEEK. 
          I OKAY. 
          HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE? THAT'S, UH, NOT SURE IT'S LARGER THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE PIECES THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE TO WORK AT CONTAINMENT AS WELL, UM, PRIOR TO DEMO. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE ON A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME, BUT WE WILL, UM, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CONTAINMENT IN PLACE FIRST AND THEN DO, UH, UM, OUR BEST AT, UH, DEMOLISHING IT. 
          SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WITH RESPECT TO CONTAINMENT, IS THAT THE PROTECTION OF THE BEACH, THE SAND BEACH FROM WHATEVER DEGREE IS CREATED IN THE COURSE OF DESTROYING THE SUN? YES. 
          SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID WE HAVE A MOTION? JOE, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION OUTTA IT? I THINK YOU DID, DIDN'T YOU? THERE'S KIND OF ENOUGH OF A FORMATION OF ONE. 
          I MOVE THAT WE PREPARE A LETTER FROM THE MAC TO, UH, BEAU MARTINEZ, THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, CITING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HARBORVIEW MARINA. 
          WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE? THE LETTER? JUST WRITING A LETTER? WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE LETTER? TO STIMULATE THEM, TO FIX IT, STIMULATE THEM TO PAY US THAT SIMILAR OCCURRENCE? I THINK IT'S MORE FOR THE, THE, THAT GROUP. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO WITH THAT LETTER? WELL, SO I THINK SIMILAR TO OUR LAST, LAST SUBCOMMITTEE, WE PROBABLY WANT IT TO BE GENERAL INSTEAD OF SPECIFIC FOR THE MOTION, AND THEN LEAVE IT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD SAY. 
          I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOLD THE LESSEES RESPONSIBLE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO ANY FUTURE AGREEMENT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE MARINE BUREAU AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD 
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CONSULT WITH THE MARINE BUREAU ABOUT THOSE STANDARDS, THE STANDARDS BEFORE THEY ENTER INTO ANY AGREEMENT. 
          OR YOU GO AHEAD, TODD. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO, TO ADDRESS A LETTER. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WITH THIS ONE, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU POTENTIALLY DRAFT A LETTER THAT YOU BRING TO THE, THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND THEN MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY. 
          UH, AND THEN IT IS A, IT'S A, A CHAIR LETTER REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION AND ENDORSED BY THE COMMISSION TO BE SENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH, I WAS TRYING NOT TO DO THAT, BUT . 
          BUT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND I'LL WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT IT BEING A COMMITTEE, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE CAN WORK ON IT. 
          COMMITTEE. 
          YEAH, JOE. 
          AND I CAN, I'LL GLADLY DRAFT IT AND YOU CLEAN IT UP. 
          IS THERE STILL DISCUSSION OR GO, GO AHEAD. 
          CAN WE CC THE CITY ATTORNEY? DO WE NEED TO OUTLINE THAT RIGHT NOW? LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? GREAT. 
          BUT LIKE, SO IT'S INTERESTING. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO YOUR LETTER WILL BE A TWO FROM FOUR AND IT WILL GO, IT'LL BE THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          IT'LL GO TO THE CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL, AND ALL DEBAR DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          PERFECT. 
          I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME BACKGROUND IN THAT LETTER. 
          ARE YOU COM IS THE COMMITTEE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? COMMISSIONERS THAT IF WE SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING AND BEEN EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT THAT MARINA FOR SOME TIME, I THINK THAT'S VALUABLE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT DEBRIS FROM IT HAS COME ON FEET. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YES, THANK YOU. 
          SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND OH, PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? AND THEN WE MOVE, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 
          UH, KEVIN REED. 
          THANK. 
          HELLO. 
          IT JUST SEEMED TO ME IF THIS IS GETTING MORE TOURIST ATTENTION THAN THE QUEEN BARON, MAYBE OUR DOLLARS SHOULD GO INTO MORE PIECES OF BROKEN CONGRESS. 
          GOOD CALL. 
          THAT'S THE KEVIN . 
          GOOD CALL. 
          KEVIN, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS RECEIVING FILE TOO? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OH. 
          OR CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION. 
          IT'S NOT RECEIVING FILE. 
          UM, THIS WAS THE STUDY. 
          UH, THIS WAS THE STUDY SESSION. 
          BE, YEAH, IT'S RECEIVING FILE. 
          YOU, YOU? NO, YEAH, IT IS A RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE THE STUDY SESSION. 
          OH, SO YOU ALREADY DID THAT? MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, SO YOU'RE GOOD. 
          AND THEN NOW YOU JUST MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE THE SUBMISSION TO APPROVE A FEE WAIVER FOR SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB AND THE AMOUNT NOT RECEIVED $5,000 FOR USE OF A DOCK SPACE. 
          AND, UH, ALAMEDOS BAY MARINA FOR VISITING, FOR PARTICIPATING VESSELS FOR OPENING DAY FESTIVITIES ON MAY 4TH, 2024. 
          THE SEAL BEACH TO DANA POINT, REGATTA ON JULY 6TH, UH, 2024. 
          AND DURING THE 2024 MINUTE ARRAY OUTLAW REGATTA ON AUGUST 31ST, 2024. 
          UH, THESE ARE OUR STANDARD FEE WAIVERS, UH, THAT IT'S OUR FEE WAIVER SEASON, UH, BRINGING 'EM TO YOU. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE FOR YOUR ENDORSEMENT, BEFORE WE MOVE TO COUNCIL, UH, BUT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE EVERYONE TO OUR MARINE OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT, MR. BRIAN PLANT. 
          HE IS GOING TO BE KIND, GIVE YOU A, A BRIEF GO THROUGH ON EACH ONE. 
          AND THEN JUST, UH, SO ONLY IS FOURTH DAY, SO TAKE IT EASY ON IT. 
          OKAY, WE'RE DONE. 
          IT'S FINE. 
          UM, YEAH, SO FOR SEAL BEACH, UM, THIS IS REALLY ALL ABOUT PROMOTION. 
          UM, GETTING, GETTING VOTERS DOWN TO THE ARENA, UM, SHOWING THEM WHAT TRUE LONG BEACH ARENAS HAVE TO OFFER. 
          UM, NOT, NOT THESE OTHER ONES WE'RE TRYING NOT TO ENDORSE. 
          UM, BUT I REALLY WANNA GET THEM DOWN THERE. 
          IT HELPS BOOST UP THE, UH, THE CLUB'S, UH, ATTENDANCE, UM, REALLY BRING BOATING, YOU KNOW, TO THE PEOPLE, UH, GETTING NEW MEMBERS AND KE KEEPING THE BOATING ALIVE AND WELL IN THESE HARBORS. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. 
          IF THIS FEE WAIVER WERE NOT GRANTED, WOULD THESE EVENTS STILL BE ON THE, ON THE CALENDAR AND STILL MOVE AHEAD WITH RESPECT TO THE YACHT CLUB ACTIVITIES? UH, I, I BELIEVE SO. 
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UM, I, I'M COMING FROM A, A READING  BACKGROUND. 
          UM, SO SPECIFICALLY I WOULD DEFER TO, TO TODD, UM, HIS EXPERTISE DOWN HERE FOR THE MOST PART, YES. 
          UH, THE SMALLER YACHT CLUBS POTENTIALLY? NO. 
          WHY IS THAT? UH, JUST THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE, THE FEES THAT WE WOULD APPLY TO THEIR VISITING VESSELS. 
          SO THEY, THEY MAY GO ON, BUT THEY MAY, THEY BE SMALLER AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE AND GENERATE AS MUCH, UM, MEMBERSHIP DRIVE, UH, PROMOTION OF THEIR CLUB. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S, IT'S A, A WIN-WIN. 
          UH, WHILE WE ARE, UH, OFFSETTING A FEE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING A FEE WAIVER. 
          UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROMOTION OF THE LONG BEACH MARINA SYSTEM AS A WHOLE BENEFITS FROM THAT FEE WAIVING THAT FEE TO ALLOW THOSE, THE CLB YACHT CLUB IN THIS CASE, TO ELEVATE THE, THE OFFERING OF EACH ONE OF THEIR EVENTS. 
          AS SOMEONE WHO SAILED IN THOSE REGATTAS FOR CLB YACHT CLUB. 
          UH, IT'S KIND OF A RECIPROCAL THING, CORRECT? THAT WHEN WE'RE VISITING AT CALL YACHT CLUB FOR MARIA DEL REY, THEY'RE HOSTING THE SLIPS FOR OUR LONG BEACH PEOPLE. 
          SAME GOES WITH DANA POINT. 
          THOSE ARE HOSTED. 
          SO IT'S A HOSPITALITY THING AND IT'S NICE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT IN RECIPROCATING MM-HMM, , ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? MY, EXCUSE ME. 
          MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WELL, I'M READING THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          IS THAT, UH, WHY IS THERE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF 5,000 FOR AGENDA ITEM FOR AND THE 8,250 FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF THE $3,000 IN TERMS OF FEE WAIVERS. 
          YOU CAN ASK ABOUT THE $5,000 FEE HERE. 
          YOU NEED TO WAIT TILL THAT AGENDA ITEM TO ADDRESS THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO. 
          SO, SO, SO YOU COULD ASK ABOUT WHAT, LIKE HOW DO WE CALCULATE GOOD PLAN? HOW DO WE CALCULATE A $5,000 FEE WAIVER FOR THAT EVENT UNDER, OR THE EVENTS DESCRIBED UNDER, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          SO WE LOOK AT THE MAX CAPACITY OF WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DO. 
          UH, AND WE DO A DO NOT EXCEED. 
          OKAY? SO IF, IF YOU HAD A FULL OUT, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. 
          IT WOULD BE OF ALL OF THEIR EVENTS, IT WOULD BE $5,000. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UH, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S THE MOST YOU NEED FOR THESE THREE EVENTS? AND THEN WE CALCULATE OUT THE, THE SLIP PRICES AND WE GO, OKAY, IT WOULD BE $5,000 IF THEY HAD MAX CAPACITY AT EACH ONE OF THEIR EVENTS. 
          UH, BUT IF THEY WENT OVER 5,000, THEY'D HAVE TO OWE, THEY'D HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE. 
          SO WE, WE GIVE A DO NOT EXCEED, BUT VERY SELDOM DO ANY OF THE, UH, THE YACHT CLUBS COME CLOSE TO OR MEET THAT THRESHOLD. 
          RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S USUALLY HALF THAT, IF NOT LESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, COMMISSIONER. 
          OH, I, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, MAKE THE COMMENT THAT MOST OF OUR YACHT CLUBS ARE NON-PROFITS. 
          AND WHEN THEY HAVE OPENING DAY AND SOME OF THEIR ACTIVITIES, THEY ALSO HAVE CHARITY DAY WHERE THEY RAISE MONEY. 
          UM, USUALLY IT'S FOR, UM, THE CHILDREN'S CLINIC, WHICH IS NOW A FULL SCALE, UM, FAMILY CLINICS. 
          AND THERE ARE, UM, 12 OF THEM ARE IN THE CITY . 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, THEY'RE NON-PROFITS. 
          SO, UH, I WAS TREASURER TO THE NAVY YACHT CLUB AT ONE TIME, SO, UM, THEY OPERATE ON TWO STRINGS, THE SMALLER ONES. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE, UH, TO APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ANY VOTES? OH, THE SCORE, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          , I SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE VOTE, BUT PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. BOOKER, PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? SO, SO MOST OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION A WHILE KNOWN BIG IN THE VOTE OWNERS ASSOCIATION, SO IT'S KEVIN, BY THE WAY. 
          SO WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH HIM. 
          BUT THAT, AND I HOPE WHEN I GET MY THREE MINUTES, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SHORELINE MEETING. 
          WE HAD TO PUT THE LOT OF SUPPORT FROM TO, AND THESE GUYS. 
          BUT I'M ALSO A BIG MEMBER, A BIG RACER, AND, AND SO I TAKE CARE OF THE BUOY BACK 
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HERE. 
          SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW I DO THAT TOO. 
          AND I'VE ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE RACES FOREVER. 
          AND IT'S, AND REALLY THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR THE MARINA. 
          WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THE MARINA SUPPORT THESE YACHT CLUBS IN THIS WAY. 
          UM, THE OPENING DAY FOR SEAL BEACH, WHAT YOU GUYS KNOW IS THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE'LL HAVE A HANDFUL OF BOATS FROM THIS SHORE. 
          THE SHORELINE MARINA COULD HAVE COME DOWN HERE. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE MEMBERS AS YOU KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, YOU CAN BELONG HERE, BUT YOUR BOATS IN, IN THE OTHER MARINA. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT'LL BE USED FOR. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, THE, UM, THE SEAL BEACH, DANA POINT RACE, WE GET, WE GET A, A COUPLE DOZEN, 30 BOATS FROM DANA POINT UP COMING UP HERE. 
          AND IT'S, IT IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE YOU SAID FOR THE MARINA. 
          THIS IS A PRETTY NICE DAY TRIP, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE GUYS TO COME UP HERE. 
          SO, SO LIKE YOU GUYS WERE SUGGESTING, IT DRIVES A LOT OF BACK, IT DRIVES A LOT OF FOLKS COMING BACK. 
          'CAUSE THEY FIND OUT THIS IS A PRETTY NICE PLACE TO GO. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT GOOD MARINA, YOU'VE GOT GOOD END TIDE, YOU'VE GOT RESTROOMS, YOU'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF PLACES. 
          THIS IS A GREAT DESTINATION FOR THE LOCAL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BOATERS. 
          AND I REALLY WANNA SAY THAT. 
          SO YOU CAN NOT WRITE THIS OFF AS ADVERTISING IF YOU WANT. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE, THE I LOVE , THAT'S A LEGACY RACE. 
          AND IF YOU ARE IN MARINA DEL REY, THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS LIKE WHAT YOU WANNA DO. 
          'CAUSE ON LABOR DAY, THEY JUST COME DOWN HERE AND MASS 40 BOATS SOMETIMES. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT IS A GREAT WAY TO, TO GET THE BOATING COMMUNITY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR MARINA AND HOW EASY IT IS TO WORK TO GET A, TO GET AN  AND HOW YOU CAN GO TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS, I THINK YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS IS PR FOR THE MARINA. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          AND, AND IN ADDITION TO SUPPORTING ALL OF THE, THE LOCAL YACHT CLUBS, WHICH IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND THEN WHEN I GET TO MY SPEECH, I'LL TIE EVERYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT GOOD JOB. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, UH, WE WILL, UM, WE HAD A MOTION, WE HAD A SECOND. 
          I'M GONNA CHOOSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          UM, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? NO, THAT IS APPROVED. 
          UM, BEFORE THIS, UM, NEXT ITEM ON, UH, ITEM FIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER MURRAY, UH, DID INFORM ME THAT SHE WAS GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE SUBMISSION TO APPROVE A FEE WAIVER FOR LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB, AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $8,250 FOR USE OF DOCK SPACE AND ALAMEDO SPA MARINA FOR VISITING, PARTICIPATING VESSELS DURING THE 2024 THICKER AND CONGRESSIONAL CUPS FOR THE PERIOD OF APRIL 18TH THROUGH 28TH, 2024 IN THE LONG BEACH OLYMPIC CLASSES REGATTA FOR THE PERIOD OF JULY 19TH THROUGH 21ST, UH, 2024. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, BRIAN, WE JOB, YEAH, SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ALL ABOUT PROMOTION. 
          IT'S LIKE AS, AS, SORRY DAVE. 
          DAVE, IT, IT'S PROMOTION, IT'S MARKETING, IT'S GETTING PEOPLE DOWN HERE TO THIS HARVARD TO SEE WHAT THE OFFERING IS. 
          AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. 
          AND COMING FROM RAY DEL RAY LIKE BACKGROUND, THIS HAS A LOT MORE TO DO. 
          AND LIKE THE MORE YOU EXPLORE, THE MORE YOU WANT TO BE HERE. 
          SO, UM, DIFFERENCE IN THE, IN THE PRICING IS JUST THE, ON THE SCALE OF THE, OF THE EVENTS. 
          I MEAN THESE, THE CONGRESSIONAL CUP, THE FAVORITE CUP, THESE ARE VERY BIG EVENTS. 
          UM, A LOT MORE VOTES COMING IN AGAINST THE DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT ASKED FOR. 
          ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FIRST? NO, WE'RE GOOD? NO? OKAY. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON BEHALF OF, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THAT. 
          I'M DAVE, DAVE BOOKER, AND I'M GONNA TALK AGAIN AS A RACER IN THIS CASE. 
          AND I WANT TO REMIND US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SAILING COMMUNITY THAT IT'S GONNA, THIS, WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT THE OLYMPIC SAILING REGATTA, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR ABILITY TO GRASP THIS. 
          PUT YOUR BEST FOOT FORWARD FOR THE OLYMPICS IS GONNA BE, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE CALLED UPON MANY TIMES AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT I WOULD HOPE THEY HAVE TO DO GOING FORWARD. 
          SO AGAIN, LONG BEACH PARTICULARLY, AND, AND EDO BAY ARE GONNA BE UP THEIR EARS TRYING TO SUPPORT THE SAILING AGENDAS AND MAY ASK YOU GUYS FOR STEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER MARNEY. 
          UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, YOU ARE ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS. 
          I HAVE OBTAINED LEGAL COUNSEL ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I, UM, I AM THE DIRECT BENEFIT 
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OF THE CONGRESSIONAL CUP WITH MY HUSBAND BEING A PAST CHAIRMAN. 
          AH, GOT IT. 
          SO IT'S A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR ME TO, I WAS JUST GOING BASED AS A, TO SPEAK TO IT OR TO VOTE ON IT. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          SORRY, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND IF NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT, I HAD A COMMENT. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN. 
          I'M KEVIN REED. 
          UH, THESE RACES BRING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE CITY, A LOT OF ATTENTION. 
          UH, MR. BOOKER WINNER OF THE, UH, NEWPORT INATA RACE LAST YEAR, INTERNATIONAL YACHT RACE. 
          YES. 
          UH, BUT GRIEF REALITY IS YOU WILL GO UP TO THE SEATTLE YACHT CLUB, THE, UH, ST. 
          FRANCIS YACHT CLUB IN SAN FRANCISCO. 
          AND YOU SAY SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB. 
          HUH? BUT THEY KNOW LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THESE ARE BIG EVENTS AND THEY CARRY OUR REPUTATION EVERYWHERE WORLDWIDE. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY SUPPORT THIS. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY, I'LL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? UH, ONE ABSTENTION COMMISSIONER MURRAY. 
          UM, THE MOTION IS CARRIED. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE SUBMISSION TO APPROVE A FEE WAIVER FOR NAVY YACHT CLUB LONG BEACH IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 FOR USE OF DOCK SPACE IN ALAMEDO BAY MARINA FOR VETERAN HONORING RACING INCREASED CELEBRATIONS FOR THE PERIOD OF APRIL, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER, 2024. 
          AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ALL ABOUT PROMOTION ADVERTISING, UM, WITH THESE LITTLE ONES, ESPECIALLY LIKE THEY NEED THE SUPPORT, LIKE AS COMMISSIONER MENTIONED, THEY OPERATE ON SHOESTRINGS, SUPPORTING THE VETERANS, LIKE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, LIKE GET 'EM DOWN THERE AND KEEP THAT COMMUNITY ACTIVE ON THE WATER COMMISSIONER. 
          PARDON? YEAH, I HAVE A, UH, JUST A PROCEDURAL COMMENT FOR WHEN WE, UM, UM, HAVING BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, UM, WHEN WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FEE WAIVERS, CAN WE DO 'EM LIKE ON CONSENT SO THAT WE WOULD HEAR 'EM ALL IN A GROUP? BECAUSE WE DON'T, UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN WHERE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN ONE. 
          UM, AND IT, UM, AND THEN IT JUST MAKES MORE WORK FOR THE FOLKS, UM, FOR US TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND ASK ABOUT, UM, ABOUT YACHTING AND RACING AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT AND THERE, AND WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA HEAR SAY, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WELL WE DON'T AGREE WITH HOW WE CAME UP WITH A $5,000, UH, PRICE. 
          SO IS IS THERE A WAY TO LIKE JUST STREAMLINING IT FROM MOVING FORWARD FOR WHEN WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY. 
          COULD WE DO 'EM ALL ON CONSENT? SO I, I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WHEN THE AGENDA WAS ORIGINALLY PUT TOGETHER THOUGH, I THINK AT THE TIME THIS WAS BASICALLY ALL WE WERE GONNA BE MEETING FOR, TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND SO, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A VERY QUICK MEETING AND THEN, THEN WE ADDED THE BLUFF PARK BLUFF THING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MADE IT A MORE SUBSTANTIAL MEETING. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, BUT MAYBE FOR FUTURE, UH, FOR THE FUTURE, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING. 
          I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS AND MAYBE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE CAN EVEN HELP US MORE ON THAT, ABOUT, UH, WHO WE WERE BENEFITING AND WHO WE WERE VOTING FOR AND THE, WITH THE ALAMEDA BASED STAKEHOLDERS, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION. 
          UM, I I DON'T CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? FOR WHAT? I THINK THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FEW RIVERS AND THEN COMPARING 'EM TO SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS OTHER THAN YACHT CLUBS. 
          OH. 
          LIKE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          DRAGON BOATS AND ROWERS. 
          AND, AND THERE WAS A, A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A DIRECT BENEFIT AND IT'S A DIRECT COST. 
          SO LIKE, IF IT WAS LIFEGUARDS THAT DEFINITELY THAT TYPE OF COST NEEDED TO BE PASSED THROUGH. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A, INSTEAD OF A COST OF VOID OR AN AVOIDANCE, JUST NOT GETTING ADDITIONAL REVENUE 
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IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE, AS OPPOSED TO SOME DIRECT COST THAT THE CITY WOULD BE IMPACTED BY. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THAT ONE. 
          SORRY. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING WRONG THAT FAR. 
          SO, SO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY. 
          THIS IS, THESE ARE, UH, THE WAIVERS THAT REALLY DO NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER SERVICES. 
          IT'S NOT AS THOUGH THERE'S A EXPENSE RELATED TO THE WAIVER. 
          WE'RE NOT COLLECTING MONEY WE OTHERWISE WOULD BE COLLECTING. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING ANY, ANY, IT'S NOT COSTING US, WE'RE NOT PAYING OVERTIME OR, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AND THE SECOND, THE SECOND NATURE OF THAT IS THAT IN ALAMEDA BAY AND SHORELINE MARINA, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 3,360 SLIPS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT DENYING PUBLIC ACCESS BY PROVIDING THESE WAIVERS. 
          UH, WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF AVAILABILITY OF WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IN THIS CASE, WHERE IN OTHER SITUATIONS WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT ABUNDANCE OF THAT AVAILABILITY. 
          THEREBY IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE ANY SORT OF, UH, UH, BENEFIT TO ANYONE ELSE. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT. 
          SO IF YOU WOULD COMPARE OUR SLIPS TO MARINE STADIUM, THERE'S ONLY ONE MARINE STADIUM. 
          MARINE STADIUM IS, IS IS A RECREATIONAL SPACE THAT IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          JUST LIKE OUR MARINES, WE HAVE 3,360 SLIPS. 
          WE ONLY HAVE ONE MARINE STADIUM AND MAKE, YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE TWO. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MAYBE CLUB? NO. 
          NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS OR A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY POSTS SAY NAY. 
          ANY ABSTENTIONS? NONE. 
          MOTIONS CARRIED. 
          SO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM SEVEN ON THE AGENDA IS RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE THE SUBMISSION TO APPROVE THE FEE WAIVER FOR LITTLE CHIPS PLEA YACHT CLUB IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 FOR USE OF TOX SPACE AND ALAMEDOS BAY MARINA FOR RACING AND CRUISE CELEBRATIONS FOR THE PERIOD OF APRIL 21ST, 2024 THROUGH AUGUST 24TH. 
          UH, 2024. 
          UM, IS THERE, UH, BEFORE I GO TO STAFF, SO IS THE DIFFERENCE, DOES NAVY YACHT CLUB JUST DO THINGS IN THE FALL AND THE OTHER ONES DON'T? UM, SO WE, WE SPEAK WITH 'EM PRIOR TO WE ASK THEM, OKAY, HEY, WHAT'S YOUR SCHEDULE LOOKING LIKE? THEY DO A VETERAN'S DAY THING AND THEY TAKE THEM ALL OUT BY IOWA AND THEY THE CAN THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY'RE, THEY GIVE US A LIST OF ITEMS THAT THEY ARE, THEY'RE REQUESTING WAIVERS FOR, WE REVIEW IT AND THEN BASED ON WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO MEET THEIR NEED, WE BASE THE DATES ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, COULD, IN THE FUTURE, COULD WE JUST SAY FOR THE YEAR THEY GET THIS AMOUNT FOR 2024, THEY GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT. 
          WE HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC IN OUR COUNSEL LETTERS AS TO WHAT THEY'RE GETTING IT FOR AND WHAT THE DATE RANGE IS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT HAS TO BE THE, THE FIRST DATE AND THE LAST DATE. 
          WE HAVE TO SAY THOUGH, THAT TIME RANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND ALONG THOSE LINES WITH RESPECT TO SPECIFICITY ON THIS PARTICULAR LINE ITEM, UM, AND IN REGARDS TO OTHER, UH, THE HOME PORT OF THE PARTICULAR YACHT CLUB THAT'S BEING GRANTED OR BEING, UM, UH, IN WHICH THE FEE WAIVER IS BEING GRANTED TO THAT PARTICULAR, I AM NOT IN THE, UH, SAILING AND YACHTING COMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE OF INTEREST FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME. 
          I BELIEVE THAT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE LITTLE SHIPS' FLEET YACHT CLUB IS LOCATED. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT SAN DIEGO? IS THAT SAN FRANCISCO? IS THAT ABSOLUTELY. 
          WHITE ? NO, I, COMMISSIONER KI COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, MOVING FORWARD IN OUR, IN OUR FUTURE WAIVERS, WE WILL ADD AN ATTACHMENT AND WE'LL PUT LIKE A, A MAP, A PIN MAP THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE, WHERE THE  IS. 
          UH, WE TEND TO NOT PROVIDE WAIVERS TO, TO CITY OF LONG BEACH NON PROFIT. 
          GREAT. 
          OPPORTUN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE CAN GO ONTO THE, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO SAY ABOUT THIS. 
          I MEAN, I, I, I'LL SPARE IT'S, IT'S THE SAME, SAME. 
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WE'RE SUPPORTING THE, THE SMALL YACHT CLUB DRIVING MY TRAFFIC DOWN HERE. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? UH, FROM THE PUBLIC? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? HEARING? ANY ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE. 
          THIS IS APPROVED. 
          BUT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES. 
          ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH REVERSE ORDER. 
          WE'RE GONNA START WITH OUR, UH, OUR NEW AS MEMBER OF OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM. 
          UH, THIS IS BRIAN PLANT WITH OUR MARINE OPERATIONS, UH, UPDATED. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO CURRENTLY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HOVERING IN A 93 90 4%, UM, OCCUPANCY RATE FOR THE SLIPS. 
          UM, AND BEING IN THE OFFICE OF THIS WEEK, THERE IS STILL PLENTY OF TRAFFIC COMING IN, WAIT LIST, UM, BEING CALLED, UH, TRANSFER LISTS FROM SHORELINE TO ALAMEDAS. 
          UM, A LOT OF ACTIVITY, ESPECIALLY AS THE SUN STARTS COMING OUT. 
          SO BECAUSE THE SUN COMES OUT, SO DO THE VOTERS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE IN FOR A GREAT SEASON THIS YEAR. 
          COOL. 
          QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BRIAN'S BACKGROUND WHERE, I KNOW YOU SAID THE MARINA DEL RAY, BUT, UM, YEAH, YOU'RE OUR NEW EMPLOYEE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR BACK, BUT LIKE I, UH, , UM, LET'S NOT GO TOO FAR, BUT, UM, NO. 
          UM, I, I AM A TRANSPLANT, UM, ORIGINALLY FROM THE MIDWEST. 
          UM, I THINK I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG PLACE. 
          UM, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE WATER, UM, AFTER COLLEGE, MOVED OUT HERE AND SETTLED IN LA UM, RIGHT AWAY. 
          GOT A JOB IN, IN MARINA DEL REY AS A, AS A DOCK WORKER. 
          AND PUSHED MY WAY UP OVER THE, THE LAST 14 YEARS. 
          AND FOR THE LAST 12 WAS MANAGING PRIVATE MARINAS UP IN MARINO DEL REY. 
          UM, SAW THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, AFTER TAKING A HIATUS FROM, FROM MANAGEMENT, I WAS DOING, UH, SOME ENVIRONMENTAL WORK WITH THE SEBAN PROJECT. 
          UM, SO PLASTIC REMEDIATION OUT OF LIKE OCEAN HARBORS, UM, AND RIVERS UP PHILADELPHIA. 
          UH, DID A LITTLE PROJECT OUT HERE WITH THEM, UM, AND THEN HAD HAD AN INCH TO GET BACK INTO, UH, MARINE OPERATIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ITSELF. 
          AND I, I TRUDGE THROUGH, UH, AND THAT'S HOW I FIND MYSELF HERE IN FRONT OF ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          WELCOME, WELCOME TO THE FAMILY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          SEE YOU GOT A NEW CAR. 
          . 
          THE BATTERY'S PRETTY SHOT SAYING I WISH I HAD A JOB TO GIMME A NEW CAR. 
          IT IS A CITY VEHICLE THAT IS UTILIZED FOR CITY BUSINESS. 
          I GOT IT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, IS THAT YOUR CAR? DOING THE DONUTS. 
          REALLY? YEAH. 
          THOSE TIRE TRACKS ARE PRETTY COOL. 
          . 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE OVER TO SERGEANT SMIFF FOR OUR MARINE PATROL OFFICER SERGEANT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, SO FEBRUARY STATISTICS OFFICERS WERE SEEN TO INITIATE A LOT MORE CALLS IN FEBRUARY. 
          THERE WAS A BIG INCREASE IN PARKING CITATIONS, WHICH NEARLY DOUBLED FROM LAST MONTH, AND MOST OF THOSE CITATIONS WERE WRITTEN IN ALAMITOS BAY COMPARED TO FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR. 
          THIS FEBRUARY HAD 422 MORE OFFICER INITIATED CALLS OF SERVICE AND 39 MORE CITATIONS FOR THIS YEAR. 
          DISTRICT CARD CHECKS WERE ALSO UP THIS MONTH AND WERE MORE EQUAL BETWEEN SHORELINE AND A BM SHORELINE. 
          MARINA TYPICALLY HAS MORE, UM, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE MORE, EVEN THIS THIS MONTH, FEWER REPORTS THIS MONTH, UH, WE'RE DOWN FIVE FROM LAST MONTH, SO 25 REPORTS WERE TAKEN. 
          OVERALL IT WAS A GREAT MONTH FOR SITES, PROACTIVE CALLS AND LOWER INCIDENT COUNTS. 
          SO FOR DISPATCH, CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE 58 OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITY. 
          IT WAS 1,918 INSTANCES, UH, 25 REPORTS, WHICH WERE MOSTLY, UH, CONSISTED OF IMPOUNDS AND FOUND PROPERTY AND 87 CITATIONS WERE ISSUED. 
          WOW. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT MONETARILY, IT'S ABOUT $60 A CITATION. 
          SO IT'S DECENT REVENUE. 
          UH, I ATTRIBUTE THE BOOST IN STATS TO A SLIGHT INCREASE IN STAFFING, MUCH WELCOME INCREASE IN STAFFING. 
          UM, SO WE HAD ONE OFFICER WHO WAS ON A LONG-TERM, IOD, WHO RETURNED TO DUTY. 
          AND THEN WE JUST RECENTLY HAD ANOTHER TRAINEE WHO IS OFF PROBATION AND HE'S ASSIGNED TO THE AFTERNOON SHIFT. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT IMPACT COMES FROM. 
          AND, UH, WE HAD FOUR OFFICERS ATTENDED A CIVILIAN POLICE LEADERSHIP COURSE PUT ON BY NEWPORT POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE COURSE FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING A HIGH PERFORMANCE TEAM AND DEVELOPING NEWER GENERATION EMPLOYEES THAT OVER THE LAST WEEK THERE 
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WERE TWO STOLEN VESSELS THAT WERE ACTIVELY, UM, STOLEN WITH THE SUSPECTS BOTH TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. 
          WOO-HOO. 
          SO THAT WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MARINE PATROL, LIFEGUARDS AND PORT POLICE. 
          HOW BIG WERE THE VESSELS? ONE OF 'EM WAS A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE YACHT. 
          YEAH. 
          WOW. 
          85 FOOTER KIDS ARE PURPOSEFUL. 
          UM, PROBABLY PURPOSEFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          PROBABLY A CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY, BUT YES. 
          HOW ABOUT LIVERBOARDS? HAVE WE, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE INVESTED, I HAVEN'T HEARD TOO MUCH ABOUT ANYBODY BREAKING THE RULES ON SPENDING MORE TIME OUT ON THEIR OH, SNEAKER BOARDS. 
          SNEAKER BOARDS, YEAH. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WE, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION I'M ALLOWED TO SHARE WITH ALL THAT, BUT , WE, WE CONDUCT, UH, LIVERBOARD INVESTIGATIONS PRETTY REGULARLY. 
          UM, THOSE INVESTIGATIONS SPAN THE MONTH SO WE CAN GET A GOOD SCOPE OF THAT ACTIVITY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. 
          AND WE, WE DO THAT ON THEIR REQUEST FROM THE, WELL, IT'S VERY CONSISTENT THOUGH. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD TOUGH ONES. 
          LIKE WE HAD  BOTH SHUT UP. 
          AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE LOW RIDER CONVENTION LAST WEEKEND IN THE LOTS? WHAT ABOUT, WERE THERE ANY ISSUES? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO. 
          USUALLY IT'S TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, JUST, YEAH, SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANKS TO, UH, SERGEANT AND THE OFFICERS FOR LAST SATURDAY BECAUSE WE GOT NOTICE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE, UM, MY SWIM TEAM IS REGULAR USER OF BELMONT POOL, AND SO WE HAD THE OFFICERS AT PRESENCE OUT THERE WAS VERY, UM, WELL RECEIVED BY THE LOCAL USERS OF THE PARKING LOT AND I APPRECIATE THAT THERE WAS EXTRA INTENTION GIMS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING OUT THERE. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I'LL SPEAK TO THAT. 
          SO THAT LOCK DOESN'T FALL UNDER MARINE PATROL JURISDICTION. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WHICH IS WHY IT WAS A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF MY SCOPE. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO THAT WAS HANDLED THROUGH EAST DIVISION PATROL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY ARE VERY AWARE OF THOSE POP-UP GATHERINGS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO IMPACT IT. 
          I KNOW THERE WAS, UM, FOR THE MOST PART, EVERYONE AT THAT GATHERING WAS COOPERATIVE, WHICH IS USUALLY THE CASE. 
          AND THEY DID DISPERSE. 
          OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT TO SHOWBOAT A LITTLE BIT GOING AND MAKING THEIR EXIT. 
          SO THERE WERE CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED OKAY. 
          FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO THERE HAVE BEEN MORE LIKE SERIOUS THINGS GOING ON ON SECOND STREET. 
          HAVE YOU GUYS NOTICED ANYTHING IN MIRROR MARINE PATROL SPIKES AND STUFF SPECIFICALLY FROM MARINE PATROL? NO. 
          I WENT ON A, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WENT ON A RIDE ALONG, UH, AND JUST ON SECOND. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S AMAZING HOW SOME OF THE BARS AND THE RESTAURANTS NOW ARE LOOKING AT THAT NOT AGAIN, THE CHICKEN PLACE HAS REDUCED THEIR HOURS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT'S OUTSIDERS AND IF YOU REALIZE IN ONE PERSON, GOD REST, HIS SOLD THAT WAS SHOT. 
          WELL IT WAS CAUGHT PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE HE, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY IT, BUT ANYWAYS, HE LEFT HIS BAR TAB OPEN . 
          SO , HE'S SAYING IN POLICE WORK THAT WE DON'T CATCH THE SMART ONES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          FUNNY JUST, JUST TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THAT, UH, THERE, OBVIOUSLY THOSE INCIDENTS ARE STILL INVESTIGATION GOING ON THAT RIGHT. 
          UM, THAT SPECIFIC ONE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THAT I GUESS THERE WAS A PRIOR RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED. 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TO IT THAN IT JUST BEING A RANDOM SHOOTING ON SECOND STREET. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, AS FAR AS RESPONSE WISE, I KNOW MANY, MANY ADDITIONAL UNITS AND RESOURCES HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO SECOND STREET TO KIND OF COMBAT THE ISSUES, UM, AND RESOLVE THE SITUATION AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYDAY PATRIOTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO THE, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN SOME PROPERTY DAMAGE AROUND THERE TOO. 
          I GET MY HAIR AT THE, LIKE SECOND STREET PARKER AND, AND, UH, HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THE PLACE AND IT'S OBVIOUS CELL BOARD GUY, UM, AT LIKE SECONDHAND CLOTHING STORE, UM, IN PANAMA, JOE'S DIAGONAL AND THOSE HAVE BEEN PROS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT HAVE BEEN BROKEN INTO MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THAT ONE HIGH END KIND OF SECONDHAND STORE WHERE YEAH. 
          SECOND STREET. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT, BUT , I, I, WHEN I STARTED, I WAS PROBABLY GONNA SIMILAR WITH IT. 
          IT'S KIND OF INDICATIVE OF THE PROPERTY CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING STATEWIDE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY 
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WE'RE NOT IN NEED TO THAT. 
          SO A SPECIFIC ONE INVOLVES THEM BARRING TO THE BUILDING AND WHAT PEOPLE GETTING WHAT THEY WANTED, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          HUH. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NO. 
          THANK YOU, SERGEANT. 
          THANKS SERGEANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON SERGEANT SIGLER'S, YOU KNOW, OVERALL ENGAGEMENT IN THE FOOTPRINT, WE, UH, WE STARTED DISCOVERY ON PATHWAYS FOR FIBER OPTIC AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF CAMERAS IN THE ALAMEDA, UH, BASIN'S, UH, ON MONDAY. 
          SO GREAT. 
          COMING SOON. 
          COMING SOON. 
          UH, WE'LL GO TO KELLY ARMSTRONG AND BEACH MAINTENANCE REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, FEW UPDATES MAYBE YOU CONTINUE ON WITH THE CAMERAS. 
          WE'VE, UH, FINISHED OUR, UH, SECURITY CAMERA INSTALLATION AT, UH, BEACH MAINTENANCE, UM, KINGWOOD BAY YARD. 
          UM, AS WELL AS WE KIND OF ASSISTED WITH, UH, UH, INCORPORATING CAMERAS TO THE BAY SHORE, UH, LIFEGUARD STATION. 
          UM, A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS. 
          UM, BEACH MAINTENANCE, UM, LAST MONTH, UH, THE BAY BERMS, UH, WERE REMOVED ON THE PENINSULA. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS, UH, APRIL OF THE ANNUAL BAY RENOURISHMENT, UM, THAT IS SCHEDULED. 
          UM, OTHER AREAS OF, UH, EROSION, UH, FROM THE RECENT RAINS, UM, HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. 
          COLORADO LAGOON, UM, AND MOTHERS BEACH, UH, HAVE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED. 
          UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE PAST STORMS AS WELL. 
          UH, ALL THE DEBRIS HAS BEEN REMOVED, UM, UH, FROM THOSE FEBRUARY STORMS OF APPROXIMATELY 544 TONS OF DEBRIS WAS REMOVED IN FEBRUARY. 
          UM, AND THAT MAKE BRINGS OUR TOTAL YEAR FROM OCTOBER TO, UH, THROUGH FEBRUARY TO 967 TONS OF DEBRIS. 
          UM, I KNOW WE SPOKE A LOT, UH, A LOT ABOUT THE CONCRETE DOCK, UM, JUST TO RECAP THAT, THAT DEMOLITION AND CONTAINMENT WILL BEGIN NEXT WEEK. 
          UM, MOVING ON TO QUEENSWAY BAY SECURITY GATES, UH, FOR RAINBOW HARBOR, UM, WILL BE, UH, INSTALLED. 
          WE'RE STILL ESTIMATING COMPLETION FOR, UH, THE END OF THIS MONTH. 
          UH, GRAND PRIX WORK IS, IS HEAVY AND UNDERWAY IN THE QUEENSWAY BAY AREA. 
          UM, AND LANDSCAPING, UM, HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED FOR THE RACE THEME FLOWERS IN THE HIGH VISIBILITY AREAS. 
          UM, AS WELL AS WE'RE DOING A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, OUR DOLPHIN FOUNTAIN WAS PAINTED WITH THE, UH, THE SPECIAL PAINT. 
          UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, CLEANING UP SOME OTHER AREAS FOR THE GRAND PRIX RACE. 
          UH, OUR GROUNDS OPERATION, UM, HAD SOME, UH, FINISHED UP THE, THE SHORELINE MARINA, UM, NATIVE PLANT INSTALLATION THERE. 
          UM, THAT WAS A TWO DAY EVENT WITH THE REMOVAL AND THE INSTALLATION, UH, THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY AND THE INSTALLATION ON THE 3RD OF MARCH. 
          UM, OTHER, UH, PROJECTS STILL KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH GROUNDS IS THE, UH, INSTALLATION OF, UM, UH, THEFT PREVENTION, UH, CAGES ALONG THE, UH, AROUND THE BACKFLOW, UH, UM, APPARATUSES IN THE ALVEO BAY AREA. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD AND THE, UH, DOWNTOWN MARINA IRRIGATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WHICH IS CENTRALIZING ALL OF OUR IRRIGATION CONTROLLERS TO, UH, AN UPGRADED UH, CAPACITY IS ALSO STILL MOVING FORWARD. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          QUESTION ON THE BUOYS. 
          ANY DECISION ON, UH, THAT'S NEXT. 
          NEVERMIND. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MR. FORESTER. 
          ALRIGHT, MARINE MATES. 
          HI COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, WE'LL START WITH BRUCE'S SOLAR AND A BLADES FOR THE MARINA, THE BUOY. 
          UM, WE ARE PREPARED TO MAKE THE PURCHASE, UM, HOWEVER THERE BACKORDER AND SO AFTER THE END OF MAY RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I AM ON THEIR LIST AS SOON AS THEY COME INTO ORDER IN STOCK TO BE ABLE TO PROCURE SOME AND PLACE SOME. 
          GREAT. 
          SO I'M ROOM FORWARD ON THAT. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON HAVING TO REPORT TREES ARE DONE. 
          CHRISTMAS TREES IN THE BAY ARE ALL DONE FOR THE YEAR UNTIL NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, MARINE MAINTEN THE DOCK, UH, WE HAVE TWO CONCRETE DOCKS. 
          THEY'RE PRETTY OLD AND THEY'RE FALLING APART. 
          WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, SOMI AND TETRATECH TO GO OUT TO BID. 
          WE HAVE DESIGN ELEMENTS ALREADY REPLACE THE TWO WITH ONE ONE DOCK. 
          UM, THAT'LL CLEAN THAT UP AREA UP A LOT. 
          IT'LL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR THE ROWERS TO BE ABLE TO ROW BACK AND FORTH. 
          UM, SO HAPPY TO SAY THAT'S COMING, UH, DOWN THE PIPE. 
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UM, WE ARE GONNA TEST, UH, TWO OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURES DOWN BY ONE BY D SIX, ANOTHER ONE BY D SEVEN. 
          WE'RE GONNA ENCLOSE THE TOP OF 'EM WITH THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, HOPING TO PREVENT A LOT OF THE UNWANTED FROM BEING IN THERE. 
          IT'S GOING THROUGH ALL THE TRASH AND PEOPLE ARE JUST THROWING TRASH OVER THE TOP. 
          SO HOPEFULLY IT MAKES IT MORE INTO THE TRASH CANS MORE PRESENTABLE AND WE'LL HAVE MORE SECURITY OVER IT. 
          UM, WE ARE GONNA BE RESURFACING THE BASE, BASE OR HANDBALL COURTS. 
          UM, WE HAVE A PO AND WE ARE WORKING ON SCHEDULING, HOPEFULLY, UH, GET THAT STARTED BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH. 
          UM, BELMONT POOL TEMP RESTROOMS THAT ARE INSIDE THE POOL. 
          WE RESURFACE THE FLOORING ON BOTH THOSE HANDICAPPED RESTROOMS. THAT IS COMPLETE. 
          UM, WE HAVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ORDERED FOR RO BEACH, PLAYGROUND, MOTHER'S BEACH, AND A FEW SWING SETS FOR COLORADO'S LAGOON. 
          ALL THAT IS ON ORDER. 
          UM, BASIN ONE, WE HAD A TREE THAT FELL LAST YEAR AND IT CRUSHED THE HAND RAILING. 
          SO WE'VE GOT SOME QUOTES COMING IN ON THAT AND WE'LL BE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD ON REPLACING THAT HAND RAILING. 
          UM, WE ARE LOOKING INTO WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO POSSIBLY UPGRADE THE SHORELINE MARINA READER CARD SYSTEMS FOR THE GATES AND THE RESTROOMS. SO WE'RE ENTERTAINING POSSIBLY LOOKING AT WHAT THAT WOULD BE TO UPGRADE. 
          IT'S BEEN QUITE A FEW YEARS, MAYBE ABOUT 15, 20 YEARS, I THINK, SINCE THAT SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED. 
          AND THEN THE LAST TIME I HAVE IS, OR TWO MORE, I'M SORRY, BAYSHORE, UH, WINDSCREEN, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND BAYSHORE, WE'VE GOT THE DRY BOAT STORAGE, THE KAYAK RENTALS, AND THE HOCKEY RINK. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING ALL THAT WINDSCREEN HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH. 
          AND WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON ALONG THERE BY THE FENCE KIND OF ALONG THERE. 
          AND THERE WERE, THERE WAS EQUIPMENT ON THE BEACH. 
          BIG, BIG EQUIPMENT ON THE BAYSIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          PROJECT. 
          IS THAT THE WATER PROJECT? YEAH, I AM. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          SURE. 
          I HAVEN'T, UH, PROJECT HASN'T STARTED YET, I DON'T THINK. 
          YEAH, BAY, UH, PUMP STATION PROJECT IS GOING TO START MOBILIZING TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MONTH INTO APRIL. 
          UH, AND THEN THEY'LL GO, THEY'LL GO ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION, UH, IF NOT END OF APRIL, VERY, VERY SOMETIME IN APRIL, BEGINNING OF MAY. 
          DO YOU RECALL WHETHER THERE'S ANY SIGNAGE FOR THAT PROJECT TOO? SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS LIKE, HEY, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA COME UP. 
          THEIR, THEIR INITIAL, THEIR, THEIR PRE MODALIZATION UHHUH, THAT SIGNAGE WILL BE COMING IN THEIR PREMO. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ITEM I HAVE IS GAIN WEIGHT, GG REPAIR, UM, THE GAIN WEIGHT, UH, THAT ATTACHES TO THE HEAD WALL AND COME LOOSE. 
          AND SO WE FINALLY GOT A CONTRACT OUT HERE THAT WAS ABLE TO RECU THAT TO THE HEAD WALL AND WE WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM USING, UTILIZING OUR CRANE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENSES SO THAT WE COULD GET THAT PROJECT DONE, COMPLETED. 
          AND IT IS ALL DONE. 
          SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY REPORT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE FOR ME? YES. 
          HOW'D WE DO ON THE, UM, DOWN ON THE PENINSULA WITH THE, THE RECENT STORMS? AND I'M ALENE KELLY ON THAT ONE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UM, FOR THE, I'M SORRY. 
          FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, THE SAND, THE OCEANSIDE BERMS, UM, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WITH THOSE STORMS. UM, OR THERE WAS SEVERAL STORMS THAT WERE, UH, IMPACTING THOSE BAY BER UH, THE OCEANSIDE BERMS. UM, BUT THE, UH, THE BEACH MAINTENANCE CREW WAS ABLE TO REFORTIFY THEM, UM, AFTER EVERY HIGH TIDE OR OR STORM EVENT, UM, AND BUILD THAT BACK UP FOR THE FOLLOWING STORM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ON, ON THE DOCK? THE TWO DOCKS? I WAS TALKING TO HER CITY COUNCILWOMAN, UH, AND SHE DID A GREAT JOB DOWN ON SECOND STREET, SO SUPER JOB ON THAT. 
          BUT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TWO DOCS AND SHE WAS INTERESTED AND MADE SOME CALLS ON IT, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE SCHEDULED, BUT THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE VACANT BIRTH ONE AND TWO. 
          SO WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, AN ENGINEER. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA GET SCOPE OF WORK, HOPEFULLY END OF THIS MONTH INTO APRIL AND START MOVING ON DESIGN, CONCEPT DESIGN AND REGULATORY AND PERMITTING. 
          UH, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, PROBABLY A TWO YEAR PROCESS, REALLY THREE, UH, TO GET WHAT WE WANT TO GET DONE OUT THERE. 
          SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT DOCK, THAT AREA, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER AREAS DONE BY 2028. 
          SO BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT IT'S, I WISH IT WAS A, HEY, LET'S DESIGN BUILD. 
          IT'S A PROCESS. 
          IT'S A PROCESS. 
          SO, BUT OUR GOAL FOR BIRTH ONE, BIRTH TWO IS 2027. 
          UH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S PRIORITY NUMBER ONE IN OUR NEW, OUR LIST OF GETTING DONE. 
          WE HAVE SEVEN 
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DOCS IN ALAMEDA BAY THAT WE WANT TO GET DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT CONCLUDES OUR MONTHLY MANAGERS REPORT. 
          OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT, UH, OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM IS NOW COMPLETE. 
          YEAH. 
          FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THIS CREW. 
          UH, YOU GUYS KNOW COREY, YOU KNOW KELLY TO A LITTLE BIT EXTENT. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU GUYS GETTING TO KNOW BRIAN. 
          UM, JAMES IS ALSO, SERGEANT SIGLER IS ALSO PART OF OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM, SO WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE HIM AND EVERYTHING HE DOES. 
          SO, UH, SUPER, SUPER EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH THIS GROUP. 
          COOL. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO, WE HAVE TO, UH OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I TOTALLY SKIPPED THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          MOTION. 
          MOTION. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THAT WAS ALSO OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC, RIGHT? OH, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. 
          UH, I GOTTA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS. 
          I HAVE A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS THAT'S APPROVED. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY IS WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED DURING THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, IS THAT CORRECT? AND, AND IT, IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET OFFSITE AND WALK SOME OF THE JOB THERE. 
          AND THEN THAT WAS NICE TO LEVERAGE THAT TODD WAS OUT ON SITE SO THAT HE COULD MEET WITH OTHER COMMISSIONERS. 
          SO GOOD PLANNING, GOOD USE OF TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          WE EVEN RESPONDED TO ANOTHER COMMISSIONER IN DISTRESS. 
          THAT'S CRAZY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU RAN AWAY FROM US WHEN WE TRIED TO SAY HI TO YOU. 
          STUFF WE DID AS FAR AWAY AS WE COULD. 
          I DON'T WANNA GET SAVED. 
          BROWN ADDICT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THERE WAS, WAS THERE A, UH, ANOTHER COMMITTEE? OH, WE HAD TIDELANDS. 
          TIDELANDS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MEAN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMITTEE? YEP. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THAT THE SAME AS TIDELANDS? UHHUH. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I'LL JUST DO A REALLY BRIEF REPORT. 
          UM, THERE WAS A SUPPOSED TO BE A POWERPOINT BUT THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH GETTING IT SET UP, BUT THERE'S A REPORT THAT YOU'LL SEND AROUND TO EVERYBODY. 
          I'M RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PEOPLE, UH, WE WENT THROUGH THAT REPORT VERBALLY SO COMMISSIONERS CAN LOOK AT IT WHEN IT ARRIVES IN YOUR INBOX. 
          UM, SO LET ME JUST TALK REALLY QUICKLY. 
          THAT WENT OVER COMPLETED PROJECTS AND THAT IS THE BAY SHORE CONCESSIONS WHERE THE LIFT WAS COMPLETED IN OCTOBER. 
          AND TENANT IMPROVEMENTS CONTINUE IN CONSTRUCTION IS THE HUNA RO SPORTS COURT PROJECT TO EXPAND COURTS AND CONSTRUCT DUNE HABITAT CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINDING SOMEONE TO WORK ON THE DUNE HABITAT. 
          AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA WRITE UP AND SEND TO TODD REGARDING THAT PROJECT. 
          COLORADO LAGOON, UM, IS CONTINUING A PACE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF BOTH CAR BRIDGES IS UNDERWAY WITH AT LEAST ONE OF THE ROADWAYS OPEN BY DECEMBER AND THEN A FULL PLANTING AND RESTORATION IN EARLY INTO THE NEXT FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE TERRIFIC FOR THAT AREA. 
          DAVIES'S BOAT RAMP, UM, REDOING THE PARKING LOT, A NEW RAMP AND BATHROOMS PLAN TO, UH, REDO A REBID THIS SUMMER. 
          A GREEN PARKING LOT REHAB, FIXING TREE DAMAGE, PUTTING IN EV CHARGERS, FINALIZING PLANS TO BRING IN CONSTRUCTION IN 2024 PRIDE LIFEGUARD TOWER. 
          UM, THEY'RE PUTTING IN A BOARDWALK, A GATHERING AREA, ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WITH LIMITED MOBILITY, UM, AND CONSTRUCTION TO START IN FALL OF 2024. 
          ALAMEDA BAY WATER QUALITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECT THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO, UM, START THE CE A PROCESS, WHICH MEANS AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WILL BE EVENTUALLY PROVIDED, WHICH ARE ALWAYS REALLY GOOD FOR HELPING THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE COST AND THE IMPACTS OF PROJECTS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE ENTRANCE CHANNEL, DRUDGE PLANNING AND SEDIMENTATION, WHICH WAS TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, THEY'RE FINALIZING THE BIOLOGICAL REPORTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          UM, THERE'S A WEBSITE FOR UPDATES ON THE BELMONT POOL CALLED BELMONT POOL.COM. 
          AND THEN THE ONE THING THAT WASN'T ON HERE, SO MAYBE FOR NEXT TIME IS AN UPDATE ON THE PIER. 
          OH YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S MY REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? QUESTIONS? YEAH, QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? 
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ANY ABSTENTIONS THAT IS RECEIVED IN FILE? UH, NEXT IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UM, OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IN THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS UNLESS EXTENDED BY THE CHAIR. 
          PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 
          I'D LIKE TO, I'M DAVE BOOKER. 
          I'M IN THIS CASE. 
          I'M WITH THE BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN US BEFORE AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE. 
          SO I, I THOUGHT AFTER WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL FEBRUARY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT WE SHOULD JUST REINTRODUCE OURSELVES TO THE, PARTICULARLY THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE MAC. 
          SO WE HAD A MEETING, UM, UH, WE HAD A, A BOAT OWNERS MEETING IN, UH, SHORELINE  AT THE SHORELINE AT THE SHORELINE YACHT CLUB. 
          AND THAT WE WERE, WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM TODD AND HIS ORGANIZATION. 
          AND, AND AS AS IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW AND WE HAVE A BOAT OWNERS MEETING, THERE IS THIS ANTICIPATION, YOU KNOW, TODD IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT PUTTING UP WITH US AND, BUT YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE'S GOT A LOT OF VENTING AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON. 
          SERGEANT SMLA IS LAUGHING AT ME RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          , I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE'S, WHAT HE'S DOING. 
          SURE. 
          I'M GONNA RUN OUT OF THESE HERE IN A MINUTE. 
          SHARE CHAIR. 
          ALRIGHT, CHAIR. 
          ARE, THESE ARE THREE MINUTE REPORTS. 
          THIS IS MY THREE MINUTE REPORT. 
          THIS'LL BE EASY 'CAUSE THERE ARE NO WORDS ON HERE. 
          THERE ARE JUST PICTURES BECAUSE THEN YOU KNOW, A PICTURE SAYS A THOUSAND WORDS. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          PICTURES. 
          SO THERE YOU GO. 
          SO I'M GONNA COME DOWN HERE. 
          I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY MORE OF THOSE. 
          SO LET'S, LET'S, THIS IS, I'M GONNA SEND YOU THE PDF. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THE, THE FIRST ONE YOU GOT AND YOU GUYS, WE HAD, WE FILLED UP THE ROOM, WE HAD 90 CHAIRS AND WE HAD STANDING ROOM ONLY THERE. 
          SO WE, WE WORKED ON GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT TO THE SHORELINE PEOPLE. 
          'CAUSE WE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE BOAT OWNERS HAD HAD A MEETING IN SHORELINE. 
          AND ONE OF THE INTERNAL CRITICISMS OF THE BOAT OWNERS IS WE'RE ON, LET ME GOPAY ORIENTED ALAMITOS BAY ORIENTED. 
          WELL, TURNS OUT MOST OF THE VOLUNTEERS ARE ALAMITOS BAY FOLKS. 
          SO THAT KIND OF HAPPENS. 
          BUT, SO WE WORKED TO TRY AND GET THE, THE BOAT OWNERS DOWN IN, IN SHORELINE INVOLVED AND WE PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA AND PUBLISHED IT. 
          AND THE MARINE DEPARTMENT HELPED US BY SENDING EMAILS OUT TO ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE FOLKS IN SHORELINE THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE THIS MEETING AND WITH THEIR AGENDA ON IT. 
          SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU CAN SEE THAT TOP PICTURE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT LIKE EVERY SEAT IN THE PLACE FULL UP. 
          WE HAD 90 PLUS PEOPLE THERE. 
          AND THE SECOND, THE SECOND THING WE DID IS WE ALWAYS HAD WORK ON TOPICS THAT THE BOAT OWNERS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AND THEY MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT. 
          SO THE, THE, ONE OF THE, THE KEY TOPICS WE HAD IS WE HAD A A, A GENTLEMAN FROM STUDIO ONE 11 THAT'S A CONSULTANT TO THE CITY WHO'S WORKING ON THE SHORELINE VISIONING PROJECT. 
          YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          SO WE HAVE ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR FLAG OFFICERS, BOB SHILLING IS ONE OF THE, THE CIVILIAN COMPONENTS OF THAT LITTLE COMMUNITY THAT IS WORKING ON THE SHORELINE VISIONING STUFF. 
          NOW THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION ABOUT THAT, 'CAUSE THE LIGHT WENT ON FOR A LOT OF US THAT HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE, THE THREE APARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING IN OVER HERE AND THE C DIP. 
          SO THIS, THIS VISIONING PRECLUDES THE REZONING AND THE, AND THE EIR AND ALL THIS STUFF. 
          SO YOU CAN LOOK DOWN THE ROAD FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS AND SEE THE SUCCESS THE CITY HAD IN GETTING PRIVATE INVESTORS TO COME IN AND SPEND HUNDREDS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO WHAT THEY ENVISIONED SEVEN, 10 YEARS AGO. 
          SO THIS THING IS JUST STARTING FOR, THERE'S ONE IN, IT'S ONE DOWNTOWN AND ONE A SEPARATE ONE FOR SHORELINE. 
          SO YOU GUYS SHOULD KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THAT, RIGHT? I BEEN SO RIGHT. 
          SO THE OTHER THING THAT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE IN SHORELINE MARINA AND YOU'RE A BOAT OWNER, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST BURN WITH THE CITY? NO, IT'S SPECIAL EVENTS NOISE. 
          WELL, IT'S MORE THAN, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING IF YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE MARINAS, THEY'RE USED TO THAT WE'RE USED TO THE MUSIC, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT THEY, THAT REALLY, IT REALLY GETS TO THEIR CRAWL WHEN THEY CAN'T GET TO THEIR BOAT. 
          AND THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THAT. 
          ONE IF THEY'RE SHUT OFF, BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THERE'S TRAFFIC IS JUST IN A B***H BECAUSE IT'S NOT MANAGED. 
          SO WE, WE STARTED HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THE SPECIAL EVENT STAFF, WHICH REPORTS TO THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT. 
          AND WE GOT, WE GOT, SHE ACTUALLY HEARD SOME OF OUR, OUR COMPLAINTS AND MADE SOME CHANGES TO WAY THEY RAN THE C CALI CALI FEST EVENT IN FEBRUARY AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW WAS A LOT BETTER. 
          AND WE DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF B******G. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF B******G. 
          I HEARD IT WAS A LOT BETTER. 
          SO YOU'RE AT FOUR MINUTES. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ANOTHER TWO. 
          WELL, OKAY . 
          SO THE OTHER THING WE DID WITH 
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SPECIAL EVENTS IS THEY GAVE US SOME INFORMATION THAT WE PASSED ON TO ALL THE BOAT OWNERS ABOUT, WELL WHO ARE YOU GONNA CALL WHEN YOU HAVE AN EVENT? 'CAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PERSON THAT'S MANAGING THAT ONE EVENT AND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF THEM AND PASS ON EVENTS, PASS ON STUFF THAT'S NOT WORKING OR PASS ON EMERGENCY THINGS TOO. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          SO ON THE BACKSIDE, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE SHORELINE VILLAGE IS GETTING A REFRESH. 
          SO WE, WE HAD AN UPDATE ON THAT AND THEN YOU MAY, MAY HAVE MISSED THIS ONE. 
          MAYBE NOT. 
          'CAUSE YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? SO THE PORT OF LONG BEACH IS DOING, PROPOSING A MAJOR, MAJOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THEIR PORT, THEIR PEER PORT WIND PROJECT, WHICH IT, THERE'S A BOAT, IT'S GONNA CONSUME A WHOLE LOT OF OPEN WATER RIGHT NOW TO DO THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT OR NOT, BUT WE DID THAT AND THEN WE HAD A VERY LIVELY EXCHANGE BETWEEN THE VOTERS AND THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, AND WELL, WE WANNA THANK THEM FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THAT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S ALL, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO SAY TODAY. 
          THIS, THIS, THE COOPERATION AT THE BUREAU OF DOING THIS BOAT MEETINGS IS TREMENDOUS. 
          AND, AND AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, EVERYBODY'S GOT A LITTLE AND TODD'S SO GOOD ABOUT IT. 
          AND SO SERGEANT SM WAS SO GOOD ABOUT IT TOO. 
          SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR HELPING US DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          GOOD ON YOU. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, HE TOOK ALL, I KNOW WE'RE THE GENEROUS CHAIR THIS TIME, SO, UM, I DON'T THINK IT SAYS ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          OH, WE DO ON ANOTHER PAGE. 
          UH, COMMITTEE MEETING REMINDERS, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UH, THURSDAY, APRIL 4TH, NINE 30 AT THE A BM OFFICE. 
          THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, UM, IS GONNA MEET, UH, HERE IN THIS ROOM AT, UH, 1 45 TO TWO 15 BEFORE THE NEXT SCHEDULED, UH, MEETING, WHICH IS HERE IN THIS ROOM ON APRIL, UH, 11TH, UH, STARTING AT TWO 30. 
          UM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN, UH, THIS MEETING. 
          I WILL, UH, CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURN JOB, SIR. 
          EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LONG WEEKEND. 
          THANK.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.