* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY. THANK YOU [00:00:01] EVERYONE. UM, IT IS, IT IS 2 34 AND THIS IS THE LONG BEACH CITY GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING. SO WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. SHALL I CALL THE ROLL OR MEMBER ASHBY? MEMBER BARNETT HERE. MEMBER CO CORING, I'M SORRY. CO CORINGS. MEMBER DEMETRIUS. DIMITRI MEMBER DEMITRI, DEMETRI O DEMETRIO. AND WE CAN'T HEAR YOU FROM HERE. MEMBER SPEAK UP. DEAR MEMBER RICHIE HERE. MEMBER YOUNG PRESIDENT CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD HERE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I DO WANT TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. IT WAS A, IT WAS A BIT OF A STRUGGLE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SO GLAD THAT WE COULD, AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING US RESCHEDULE THE MEETING. UM, IS THIS AN APPROPRIATE MOMENT TO SORT OF GO OVER THE CHANGE IN PROCEDURE ONCE MORE BEFORE WE GET STARTED? YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO. OR WHETHER IT SHOULD BE SOMEONE FROM YOUR STAFF. YEAH. SO JUST AS A REMINDER, WHEN WE ARE, UH, GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, ONCE WE READ THE RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ITEM. UH, SO THEN ONCE WE, UH, PROCEED TO THE DISCUSSION OR A STAFF REPORT, IF, IF THERE IS ANY, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION. SO THEN THAT WAY, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS, YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS TO THE STAFF ON THEIR BEHALF. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ORDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD. SO READ THE ITEM MOTION AND SECOND, UH, STAFF REPORTER PRESENTATION, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN, UM, DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMITTEE. OKAY? YES. AND THEN GO TO A VOTE ONCE YOU ARE DONE WITH YOUR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT OTHERWISE ON THE AGENDA. AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM, PLEASE, UH, LET US KNOW AND, AND YOU'LL GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. SO, WITH THAT, WE WILL GET STARTED WITH OUR REGULAR AGENDA. AND ITEM NUMBER ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FOR THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023. AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SECOND. THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND ALL IN ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ARE WE DOING ROLL CALL ON EVERY VOTE? UH, PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE DO VOTE. OKAY. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC IN CASE THEY DO HAVE ANY COMMENTS. DID WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE CARDS OR WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE SIGNUPS. YEAH. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. SORRY. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. OKAY. UM, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL, VOTE ON EVERYTHING NOW? OR ARE WE OKAY WITH, IS IT OKAY IF THEY DO THE I WOULD GO ROLL. CALL. CALL JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RECORDING. OKAY. VERY GOOD. DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL THE ROLL OR HOW DO YOU, IT'S UP TO YOU HOW YOU WOULD, WOULD YOU PREFER THE CLERK? SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THEN, UH, MEMBER ASHBY. MEMBER BARNETT. YES. MEMBER CONING. YES. MEMBER DEMI. I'M SORRY. DEMITRI. DEMETRIO. DEMETRIO. I'LL GET THERE. K AND X YOU SHOULD KNOW ME. DEMI . MEMBER. RICHIE? YES. UM, MEMBER YOUNG? YES. UH, CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS DOWN NOW. UM, ONTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATIONS. ORAL UPDATES. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION, YEAH. MOTION TO, UH, FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATIONS OR ALL UPDATES. SECOND. THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND WITH THIS ITEM, WE WILL GO TO, UH, THE PRESENTATION NEXT. NO, I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A PRESENTATION. IT'LL JUST BE A, A COUPLE, A BRIEF UPDATES FROM ME. UM, UH, THE FIRST ONE BEING OUR HALL OF FAME. OUR HALL OF FAME COMMITTEE IS GATHERING NEXT MONTH TO CONSIDER NOMINATIONS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY, PLEASE GET THOSE IN. UM, WE'RE ALSO PROMOTING IT. THE FORM IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. UM, IT'S ALSO CURRENTLY ON THE PARKS AND REC HOMEPAGE. UM, SO THAT'S AN ONLINE FORM OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME IF YOU, IF YOU NEED TO. UM, AND SO [00:05:01] THE HALL OF FAME, UM, INDUCTION CEREMONY WILL BE, UM, ON SUNDAY, AUGUST 4TH. HOPE YOU ALL CAN BE THERE TO JOIN US. UM, UH, WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE? OH, ANOTHER UPDATE ON, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, WE'RE ACTIVELY RECRUITING AS WELL, AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE CLUBS. UM, WE'RE PROMOTING THE, UM, THE APPLICATION FORM ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE FOR, UH, NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M HOPING WE'LL HAVE A FULL ROSTER IN MAY. UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP YOUR EYES ON YOUR INBOXES FOR, UM, ANY UPDATES AS FAR AS OUR MEMBERS GO. UM, AND, UH, JUST KIND OF AN INTERNAL NOTE ABOUT NANCY'S POSITION. SHERLY, UM, IS STILL ACTING BUREAU MANAGER FOR PARK PLANNING AND PARTNERSHIPS. UM, THE, UH, UH, JOB WAS OPENED AND, UH, THE APPLICATION PERIOD HAS CLOSED. SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UM, CONSIDERING CANDIDATES AND HOLDING INTERVIEWS. UM, SO NO MAJOR UPDATES ON THAT YET. UM, AND TRILON IS STILL HAPPILY ACTING AND SMILING. PARTNERSHIPS. OFFICER STILL UPSET. UM, AND, UH, JUST, UH, ONE FINAL NOTE. UM, BUT, UH, AND GARY CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THIS I GUESS, BUT, UH, WE HAD A TREE FALL, UM, AT, UM, RACK ON THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING. SO, UM, IT WAS ALL REMOVED AND TAKEN CARE OF AND I HAVEN'T HEARD YET, UM, ON WHAT THE FURTHER DAMAGE WILL BE, BUT THAT'S AN EMERGENCY PROJECT THAT CAME THROUGH OVER THE PAST, OVER THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS. I WAS THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED. YEAH. OH, WERE YOU REALLY? YEAH. PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE, BOB. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. OKAY. MANY THANKS. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS REPORT? OKAY, SEEING NONE. ANY I WAS THERE THE NEXT DAY. THEY WERE THINKING . I WASN'T THERE ANY OTHER, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ARE WE DOING A ROLL CALL ON THIS RECEIVING FILE AS WELL? YES. MEMBER BARNETT. YES. BARRETT. I'M SO SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. MEMBER CONING. YES. MEMBER DIMITRIO. YES. MEMBER RICHIE? YES. MEMBER YOUNG. YES. CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONTO ITEM NUMBER THREE AND RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES ON THE COURSES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS. AND SUGGESTED ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WHAT WAS HE GONNA SAY? LOOK, THE MOTION THAT WE HEAR, WE HAVE A, A MOTION. SECOND. A SECOND. A SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BARRETT AND YEAH. SECOND FROM YOUNG. AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAND IT TO GARY FROM AMERICAN GOLF. ALRIGHT. UM, WELL WE CAN START WITH CAPEX SINCE IT CAME UP. UM, WE DID HAVE A TREE FALL ON THE MAINTENANCE YARD AT, UM, RECREATION PARK. UM, LUCKILY IT MIST THE MAIN SUPPORT BEAMS ON EITHER SIDE RIGHT ABOVE THE BATHROOM AND THE BREAK ROOM. AND NONE OF THE INTERIOR FRAMING FOR THOSE TWO ROOMS WERE DAMAGED. SO WE THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE ALUMINUM ROOFING AND THE ALUMINUM SUPPORTS THAT HOLD THE ROOF. AND THEN SOME EXTERIOR WORK FOR THE FENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, BUT I SHOULD HAVE A QUOTE. UM, I SHOULD HAVE THREE QUOTES HERE, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. UM, SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT COMES OUT. UM, CONTINUING WITH CIP, UM, WE'VE GOT CONTRACTORS THAT ARE HOPEFULLY SCHEDULED TO COME OUT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO DO, UH, TO HAVE QUOTES ON THE BUNKERS AND TEES AT HARTWELL AND TEES AT SKY LINKS AS WELL. UM, NOTHING ELSE CRAZY IMMINENT TO DO ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LORI TO GET ALL THE PAST PROJECTS FROM 2223 ON THE END OF 2024, UH, REIMBURSED TO GET THAT WHOLE SYSTEM CLEANED UP. UM, AND THEN, UM, WE STARTED, WE START THE SKY LINKS ROOF ON APRIL 15TH, AND THEN WE JUST STARTED TO GET UPDATED QUOTES TO REDO ALL FIVE PARKING LOTS, UM, IN THE CITY PARKING LOTS AS WELL. UM, FOR THE COURSES WE NEVER LIKED DOING IT, BUT WE JUST FINISHED VERIFYING ALL OF THEM, UM, WHERE WE PUNCH HOLES AND LAY SAND ACROSS THE GREENS AND, AND GET 'EM READY FOR THE SUMMERTIME. UM, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF RAIN OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS, THREE MONTHS. UM, BUT THE COURSES HAVE HELD UP EL DORADO, EL DORADO, NOT AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THEY SEEM TO BE DRYING OUT. UM, AND, UH, NO, NO, TRUE DAMAGE CAME FROM [00:10:01] THE STORM, ASIDE FROM THE TREE THAT FELL ON A VERY LIGHT WIND DAY. BUT, UM, NO OTHER COURSES, COURSES ARE ALL IN GOOD SHAPE. UM, IS THAT FOR T THE FESTIVAL THE FESTIVAL, THE FIRST DAY OF LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL IS A SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP ON APRIL 15TH. UM, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO KICK OFF THE FESTIVAL THIS YEAR. WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE A 2025 SCHEDULE OUT, UM, AS EARLY AS THE END OF APRIL, SO WE CAN GET AHEAD OF 2025 AS WELL. UM, AND THEN OUR AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS ALWAYS A TOPIC. UM, THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS GOING STRONG. WE START FUNDRAISING APRIL 1ST, AS WE DID LAST YEAR. UM, WE RAISED $31,000 FOR LOCAL AND AND NATIONAL CHARITIES. THE GOAL THIS YEAR IS $35,000 FOR LOCAL AND NATIONAL CHARITIES. UM, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE FEES LAKE. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE DOWN TREE. ON WHAT HOLE IS IT? SKY LINKS ON TODAY? THEY'RE CUTTING IT UP TODAY. OH, OKAY. SO IT WAS A BIG ONE. IT WAS, YOU SAID YOU'RE GETTING BIDS ON DOING THE BUNKERS AND THE TEES. MM-HMM. . YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE DO THAT AND YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR OWN PEOPLE DOING THE BUNKERS. THIS WILL BE REDO, TAKE OUT ALL THE SAND AND HEART, WELL REDO THE LINERS, STRIP EVERYTHING OUT, NEWAND, AND THEN SADE THE TEE. WELL THAT'S JUST AT HARWELL, HARWELL AND STALING S TEETH. SO YOU HIRED SOMEBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE TO DO WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO TO ADE THEM? YOU STRIP 'EM, LASER LEVEL 'EM, AND THEN ADE 'EM COMMENT ON FUNDRAISING. REALLY NICE ARTICLE ON ROGER GILLUM, YOU KNOW, 9 0 8 0 8 OR 9 0 8 MAGAZINE. REALLY, REALLY NICE LITTLE PR GROUP THERE. ROGER SAID HE WAS REAL SURPRISED ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH. VERY NICE. YEAH, A NICE GUY. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. ANY, ANY UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? DID WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE? OKAY, THANK YOU. SINCE I, SINCE I JUST PLAYED SKY LINKS ABOUT TWO HOURS AGO, I THINK THE, UH, THE SAND SAND TRAPS WOULD BE MORE OF A PRIORITY. THE SAND TRAPS NEED SAND VERSUS REDOING TEE BOXES. WE ARE ABOUT 60% OF THE WAY THROUGH THE GREENSIDE BUNKERS WITH SAND. OKAY. UM, WE GOT MORE IN THIS MONTH WITH VERIFICATION AND WE'LL GET TO THE REST OF BEFORE, SO NOT THAT I GO SAND A LOT. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY FOR THE RECORDING? YEAH. ROBERT MEIER. M-E-L-I-E-R-E. THANK YOU. THE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC. BOB LIVINGSTON. JUST GARY, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING IN THE PARKING LOTS? ALL, ALL OF THE MAIN COURSES. MM-HMM. ALL FIVE. THANK YOU. WHERE ARE WE GONNA PARK WHEN THEY'RE DOING RESEARCH? WE SPLIT HOW THEY, DORADO TAKES LIKE FOUR DAYS, SO SCAN GOES PRETTY QUICKLY. I I I, I DO WANT TO ASK ONE QUESTION. UM, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING'S BLOWN UP WITH THE TEE TIMES AND BROKERS. SO JUST SORT OF CURIOUS FOR AN UPDATE FROM YOU ON, UH, YOUR PERSPECTIVE AT THIS MOMENT FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH GOLF COURSES. UM, SO FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE ARTICLES THAT WERE OUT THERE AND DIDN'T GET THE MASS TEXT MESSAGE FROM JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY'S ORGANIZATION, UH, WE'VE GOT BROKERS THAT IF YOU TO IN, IN LONG BEACH PARTICULAR, I'LL START WITH IF WE HAVE A TOURNAMENT IN THE AFTERNOON THAT GOES FROM 60 PLAYERS DOWN TO 30 PLAYERS, AND WE ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE A GAP ON OUR T SHEET FROM SAY ONE TO TWO O'CLOCK, THEY HAVE A BROKER SYSTEM, OR I CAN'T CALL IT A BOT SYSTEM, IT'S A BROKER SYSTEM OF A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT'LL GO IN AND BOOK THOSE TEE TIMES. BASICALLY IMMEDIATELY, AS SOON AS THEY SEE 'EM OPEN, IT'S INSIDE THE BOOKING WINDOW OF, YOU KNOW, NORMAL PUBLIC GOLF. BUT WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL SELL THOSE TOURNAMENTS, THEY'LL POST 'EM ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES, THEY'LL BOOK 'EM UNDER A FICTITIOUS NAME, FICTITIOUS EMAIL, AND DONNA WOULD CALL 'EM OR TEXT 'EM AND SAY, SAY I WANT THIS ONE 30 AT SKYLINE. SO OKAY, VENMO ME ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO $20 PER PERSON. AS SOON AS SHE DOES THAT, THEY WILL CANCEL THEIR TEE TIME AND REBOOK IT UNDER DONNA'S NAME AGAIN WITH A FICTITIOUS CREDIT CARD, FICTITIOUS EMAIL. UM, AND THEN DONNA SHOWS UP, SHE PAYS HER FULL GREEN FEES. HE MADE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO $80. OH, WE STILL GET OUR GREEN FEES, BUT THEY'RE SELLING THESE, UM, ILLEGALLY IF YOU ASK ME. BUT THERE'S A MAIN PROBLEM OF IT IN LA COUNTY. LA CITY. WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, KEVIN WAS THERE. UM, THEY'RE TRYING [00:15:01] TO, UM, FIND CERTAIN WAYS TO COMBAT THIS. UM, THE CITY OF PASADENA AND BROOKSIDE IS DOING A $5 BOOKING FEE FOR EVERY GREEN FEE THAT'S ACTUALLY 14 DAYS OUT. WHICH IF YOU CANCEL YOUR TEE TIME AT ANY TIME THAT THAT $5 PER PERSON IS NON-REFUNDABLE. SO IF A BROKER DOES GET A TEE TIME, THEY HAVE TO PAY 20. AND THEN WHEN THEY CANCEL AND REBOOK, THEY DON'T GET THAT 20 BACK. THEY HAVE TO PAY ANOTHER 20 TO BOOK. THEY SAY IT'S HELPING ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FAR OUT ADVANCED RESERVATIONS. THAT'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION IN LONG BEACH. THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL GONNA HAVE, IF WE GO TO 14 DAY RESERVATIONS, RESIDENTS WOULD'VE 15 DAYS. THE RESIDENTS BOOK UP 80% OF OUR TEE TIMES GOING INTO THE AFTERNOONS AND IT STARTS FILLING UP. OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC GETS THE CHANCE TO BOOK IT SEVEN DAYS OUT. SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN AN ABUNDANCE OF IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE TWILIGHT TIMES, THEY WANT THE RACK RATE T TIMES. SO IF IT REALLY, WHEN WE'VE SEEN IT IS IF A TOURNAMENT GOES DOWN IN NUMBER, SAY SEVEN DAYS OUT AND THEY, THEY RELEASE FOUR T TIMES, IT'S USUALLY BOOKED UP BY THEM. WE JUST DON'T SEE IT VERY OFTEN. WE'RE OUT AHEAD OF THOSE THINGS. UM, BUT LA COUNTY SEEMS TO JUST BE SEEING A LOT MORE THAN US, ESPECIALLY LAKEWOOD. BUT HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THERE IS TO COMBAT HIM. 'CAUSE IF THEY HAVE THE TEE TIME OPEN AND UNLESS SOMEBODY LEGALLY SHUTS THEM DOWN OR KNOWS WHERE TO LOCATE HIM OR FIND HIM OR THEM, UM, THERE'S NO REAL, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THAT WE CAN DO UNLESS WE OVER ENHANCE OUR ONLINE BOOKING FEATURES WHERE YOU HAVE TO VERIFY YOUR ACCOUNT, YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT, AND YOU HAVE TO VERIFY THAT A CREDIT CARD IS AUTHORIZED FOR THE 20 OH NO SHOW FEE WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR WHEN YOU DO CANCEL. UM, AND THOSE ARE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THE BOOKING COMPANIES THAT WE'RE USING ALREADY ARE LOOKING INTO. UM, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN ABOUT A WEEK. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT MORE OPTIONS. EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AN ANGLE, HUH? GARY? WHEN I GO TO THE BOOK AT 6:00 AM THAT'S CRAZY. THERE'S AVAILABLE TEE TIMES WHEN I CLICK ON 'EM, BUT IT WON'T TAKE OKAY. JUST SAYS EITHER IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLICKED OR OKAY. I MEAN IT GOES QUICK. WELL NO, I KNOW THAT, BUT ONCE IT GOES, DOESN'T IT GO OFF OF SCREEN? IT SHOULD, BUT AT THAT TIME, WITH ALL OF THOSE TEE TIMES BEING TAKEN AT THE SAME TIME, IT MAY JUST BE A, IT LOOKS OPEN, BUT WHEN YOU CLICK IT, SOMEBODY ELSE HAD ALREADY TAKEN IT. SO THEN YOU GO BACK AND SOMEBODY DISAPPEARED. BUT, OKAY, I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN. WHEN SOMEBODY GETS A TEE TIME, ISN'T IT TAKE TAKEN OFF THE SCREEN? YES. OKAY. WHEN I GO THERE. BUT IF YOU CLICK ON SIX O'CLOCK AND SOMEBODY ELSE ALREADY CLICKED ON IT, THERE'S A PROCESS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BOOK IT, IT'LL STAY THERE UNTIL IT'S BOOKED. SO THERE'S A LAG. THERE'S A LAG. SO IT'S MILLI HIM TWO MINUTES MILLI TO GET THROUGH WITH THE ACCOUNT. IT'S A MILLISECOND. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLICK QUOTE GO, IT'S CLICK, MAKE SURE YOUR INFORMATION IS CORRECT, APPROVE YOUR CREDIT CARD, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THERE IS A MINUTE AND A HALF IN BETWEEN THERE THAT IT CAN TAKE TO BOOK THE TE TIME AND THEN ONCE IT'S BOOKED, IT COMES OFF THE SYSTEM. OKAY. YEAH. IF THERE'S A LAG INVOLVED, WELL I'M SURE THERE'S, I MEAN, I'VE ONLY BEEN, I ONLY DO FOUR DAYS A WEEK FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. YEAH. AND THE LAG IS, UH, SIX OR EIGHT SECONDS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, IT'S DONE. RIGHT. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I CLICK ON VARIOUS ONE AND YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING. SO I SWITCHED TWO DIFFERENT PORT, CLICK THERE AND IT TAKES IT I TO WALK THROUGH IT WITH YOU. JUST A VOLUME THING. YEAH. YOUR OFFICE AT 6:00 AM CARD. MM-HMM. TO TEST THE SYSTEM. IT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, ONCE A WEEK MAYBE. SO LEMME KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AND I CAN USUALLY CHECK ON IT THAT DAY. WELL, I CAN'T GET ANY TEE TIMES. WELL, YOU CAN USE TO TEXT ME IF THAT'S THE CASE ANYWAY. WELL, I, I GET OLD TOM AND SEEMS TO FIGURE IT OUT. OKAY. IT IS A BUMMER IF YOU THINK YOU GOT IT AND THEN YOU GO, OH, THIS IS ALREADY TAKEN. YEAH, IT'S A BUMMER. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER, UH, CAN I COMMENT OR ASK GARY A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, THIS ISSUE HERE? ABSOLUTELY. YOU, YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SEND EVERYTHING THROUGH THE CHAIR, BUT JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD AND THEN, UH, THE CHAIR. ABSOLUTELY. ROBERT MALL. YOUR QUESTION FOR GARY, WHEN YOU EXPLAINED HOW THIS OTHER, THIS, UH, BOT THING WAS WORKING, DOES THE PERSON, THE BOT RESERVATION SYSTEM, SO IF, IF I PURCHASE ONE OF THOSE TEE TIMES, DO I HAVE TO KNOW THE NAME WHEN I SHOW UP? OR IS MY NAME IN ON THE, UH, TEE TIME LIST? SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR IT'S NOT A BOT. ALRIGHT. BECAUSE OUR SYSTEM DOES TAKE OUT THE BOT, WHOLE BOT FEATURE. RIGHT. SO COMPUTERS CAN'T DO IT. THESE ARE ACTUALLY, IT'S THE [00:20:01] 12 OF US SITTING IN A ROOM WITH SIX CELL PHONES EACH. AND AS SOON AS THE TEE TIME OPENS UP, THEY JUST BOOK IT. OKAY. AND THEY ALL HAVE HOWEVER MANY ACCOUNTS THEY HAVE. WHEN YOU BUY IT FROM ME, I CANCEL IT AND THEN REBOOK IT UNDER YOUR NAME. GOTCHA. BECAUSE WE KNEW WHAT NAMES HE WAS USING AND WE WOULD JUST CANCEL ALL OF THEM. GOTCHA. NOW HE'S GOTTEN SMARTER WHERE HE CANCELS IT AND THEN REBOOK IT UNDER YOUR NAME. OKAY. OKAY. BUT NOW IF WE SEND A, IF WE SEND AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY ON THE T SHEET, SAY FOR WHAT'S TODAY, THURSDAY. SO IF WE SEND AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY ON SATURDAY AND SAY, HEY, ON SATURDAY, CHECK OUT THIS CHEESEBURGER SPECIAL. ANY EMAILS THAT BOUNCE BACK, YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE EMAILS AND YOU'LL KNOW IF THEY'RE FAKE OR NOT. RIGHT. AND WE JUST CANCEL ALL THOSE TEE TIMES. SO THEN YOU GOTTA SEND, YOU GOTTA SEND 300 EMAILS, GET THE EMAILS I NEVER GOT. YOU PROBABLY JUST OPTED OUT. RIGHT. IT'S AN, IT'S AN OPTION ON YOUR PROFILE. PROFILE AND UNCHECK IT. RIGHT? YEAH, I HEARD, I HEARD THAT SOME ELDERLY PEOPLE WERE SELLING THEIR, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT, NOT LONG BEACH, BUT OTHER CITIES WERE SELLING, GIVING THEIR NAME, GOING AND GETTING THEIR RESIDENT IDS AND GIVING THESE PEOPLE THAT SIT IN THE, THE DIALING ROOMS. AND THEY'RE CANCELING THOSE TOO. LA CITY WAS AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK TOO, AND THEY'VE CANCELED A LOT OF RESIDENT CARDS. RIGHT. OR CITY CARDS, IF YOU WILL, UH, DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS TOO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION. IT'S BEEN A HOT TOPIC. I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, SO, UM, GETTING THANKS FOR THE UPDATE AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT'S, UM, BEEN BEEN LESS OF A CONCERN HERE. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES AND, UM, WITH THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL THE ROLL MEMBER BARRETT. YES. OKAY. MEMBER QUIN? YES. MEMBER DIMITRIO. YES. MEMBER RICHIE? YES. MEMBER YOUNG. YES. CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE SUBCOMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS. AND, UM, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE HAD AT LEAST ONE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING AND, UM, I GUESS WE'LL, WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, IF, IS THERE AN UPDATE FROM STAFF? NO, I THINK I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LARRY FOR A PUBLIC, UM, SORRY FOR A POLICIES AND PROCEDURES UPDATE. KEVIN, YOU NEED A MOTION? SO WE MET YESTERDAY AND DO WE NEED, SORRY, DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR EACH SUBCOMMITTEE? OKAY. NO, IT'S JUST FOR THE ITEM AS A WHOLE. YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE'LL TAKE, UH, I WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN A, A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. SO MOVE WE HAVE A SECOND, A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THAT. OKAY. WHAT COMMITTEE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? UH, THE SUB COMMITTEE ON POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. OKAY. WE MET YESTERDAY. GARY ATTENDED, LORI WAS HERE. UH, DONNA AND ANGIE AND I DID MY LEAVE. I'M NOT LEAVING ANYBODY UP. THERESA IS NO LONGER PART OF THE COMMITTEE. UM, SO WE MET, WE DISCUSSED, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THE SMOKING, NO SMOKING IN THE PRACTICE AREAS. AND THAT IS AT GOING FORWARD TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. LORI'S FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT, OUR BIGGEST TOPIC YESTERDAY WAS, UH, EDITS IN, UH, TO THE LONG BEACH GOLF MANUAL. AND SO WE'RE GETTING PRETTY FAR DOWN THE LINE WITH A LOT OF HARD WORK FROM GARY AND GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING AND DISCUSSING IT. AND I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT MAYBE IN JULY TO, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR THINKING IS JULY OR THE AUGUST MEETING TO THE FULL COMMITTEE. VERY GOOD. OKAY, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, ONE, ONE QUESTION ARE, ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS PLANNED THEN FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE ALREADY? WE, WE DID PLAN ONE AND I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR TO SAY WHEN THAT IS, BUT IT'S, I DON'T REMEMBER. WE WOULD JUST WANT, IF IDEALLY WE WOULD FILL THAT EXTRA SEAT BEFORE THAT MEETING. UH, THE OPEN SEAT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. WE GOT ONE. DID WE, DID WE WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE TALKED, BUT I DON'T THINK WE DID IT. WELL LOOK AT IT. WE'LL LOOK AT IT AFTER. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK WE DID NOT. WHILE WE, WHILE WE DO THAT, WERE THERE ANY, UH, REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENT BACK TO THE MEMBERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR [00:25:02] POLICIES AND PROCEDURES? SUBCOMMITTEE JULY 11TH. YEAH, I DID TOO. . THANK YOU. EVENTUALLY I REMEMBER 'CAUSE I WAS DOING LITTLE LINKS. YES. YEAH. AND I'M LIKE LOOKING AT BACK DOOR. OH, I HAVE, I HAVE MAY AND AUGUST, I THINK FOR THE COMMITTEE. I THINK THERE'LL BE A TOPIC LATER. YEAH. GARY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THAT. THAT WAS THE FULL ONE. MM-HMM. . WE WERE GONNA BRING THAT UP TODAY. WE WERE GONNA BRING THAT UP TODAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE DID NOT SET A MEETING DATE, HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN THAT. SO NO. JULY 11TH. I HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TOO, BUT I DO TOO. MM-HMM. . IS THAT WHAT? MM-HMM. . SO WHAT IS JULY 11TH? YES. FOR POLICY. OKAY. YES. SO WE ARE BACK. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND WERE THERE ANY OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES? I I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. OKAY, PERFECT. SO WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES. AND WITH THAT, I GUESS WE WILL ASK TO CALL THE RULE. YEAH. MEMBER BARRETT? YES. MEMBER CAULKINGS. YES. MEMBER DIMITRIO. YES. MEMBER RICHIE? YES. MEMBER YOUNG? YES. CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ON TO NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE COURSE NETTING PROCESS UPDATE. AND THAT SUGGESTED ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WHAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED ABOUT IT THOUGH? THE NEW PROCEDURE REQUIRES THAT WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT. YOU CAN ALWAYS AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT THIS IS JUST TO, TO HEAR THE ITEM HERE AND TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. SO THERE CAN BE AN AMENDMENT AT THE END IF THERE NEEDS TO BE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, MOTION ON ITEM FIVE. RECEIVE AND FILE THE COURSE. LETTING PROCESS UPDATE. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IS THIS, UH, NO, I GUESS I'LL, I CAN START. OKAY. THANK YOU. GARY WILL CHIME IN, BUT UM, PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE PHRASED IT DIFFERENTLY. IT'S NOT AN UPDATE TO THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S AN UPDATE TO YOU ON THE PROCESS, I SUPPOSE. UM, YOU HAD ASKED THAT WE COME BACK AND SPECIFICALLY DISCUSS, UM, THE NETTING ALONG ANAHEIM STREET, UM, AT RECREATION PARK, UM, AND KIND OF MORE GENERALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE, IT IS THE AMERICAN GOLF'S, UM, YOU KNOW, STANCE THAT IT'S THE GOLFER'S RESPONSIBILITY, UM, FOR ANY ERRANT BALLS. UM, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SO THE CITY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT STANCE AS WELL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S AN ERRANT BALL, UM, WE ASK THAT, UM, WHOEVER WITNESSES IT, UM, LET THE MANAGER OF THE COURSE KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THEY CAN ASSIST IN TRACKING DOWN WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGE. UM, THE SPECIFIC CASE OF ANAHEIM, UM, THEY HAD FILED A CLAIM, UM, FOR A BALL THAT WENT THROUGH A WINDOW. UM, AND THAT CLAIM WAS DENIED BY AMERICAN GOLF. UM, AND SO THEY HAD COME TO THIS COMMITTEE TO ASK, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD LOOK AT EXTENDING THE NETTING THERE OR WHAT COULD BE DONE. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GARY AND I'VE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT ABOUT THIS AND THEY CONDUCTED A, AN INVESTIGATION INTO IT, WHICH I'LL LET HIM KIND OF DESCRIBE. UM, I DID HAVE SOME VISUAL AIDS HERE TO ASSIST AS WELL. UM, BUT I THINK PROBABLY IT'S BEST, GARY, MAYBE IF YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU LOOKED AT. 'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS OUR OPERATOR, WE REALLY LOOKED AT THEM TO BE KIND OF OUR, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, KNOW THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AND, UM, KIND OF ADVISE US ON THESE THINGS. BUT, UM, I WENT OUT AND I'VE GOT SOME PHOTOS HERE TOO. UM, SO, AND THEN JUST GENERALLY, I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT THE NETTING START, YOU KNOW, THE TEE BOX IS BACK HERE AND THE NETTING STARTS HERE AT LEE. UM, AND IT KIND OF STOPS HERE MIDWAY BLOCK, LIKE MID-BLOCK. UM, IT STARTS AGAIN, A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN AND, OH, NOW I'M LOST. OH, I WENT TOO FAR. SORRY. IT STARTS AGAIN. UH, DOWN HERE AT ROYCROFT AND ENDS AGAIN, MIDBLOCK HERE. UM, AND SO THE AREA OF CONCERN IS, SORRY FOR ALL THE SCROLLING, IS THIS BUILDING. UM, AND SO THE TEES BACK HERE AND THE HOLE IS HERE. UM, WHERE DOES THE NETTING STOP? IT? IT, IT STOPS RIGHT AROUND, [00:30:01] WHAT IS THIS? RIGHT AROUND THIS ALLEY. OKAY. GARY'S SAYING WAY PAST THE BUNKER. IT STARTS, WELL, IT STARTS AGAIN. WELL, I MEAN IT CONTINUES, BUT THE REALLY HIGH NETTING THIS HIGH. WELL, YEAH, IT START AND THEN IT PICKS UP AGAIN. UM, YOU CAN SEE MORE IN THE PICTURES HERE. UM, LEMME BACK UP. IT'S STILL THERE ALL THE WAY DOWN. UH, IT JUST GOES FROM HIGH TO LOWER. YES. MM-HMM, . SORRY. SO MAYBE I MISSPOKE. SO, AND THEN HERE, THIS IS THE CORNER OF THE, OF THAT, WHERE THAT BUILDING IS LOCATED AND THIS IS STANDING ON THAT CORNER AND LOOKING LIKE TOWARD, YOU CAN'T SEE THE TEE BOX, BUT, UM, SO THE HOLE'S ACTUALLY OVER HERE, BUT THIS IS SORT OF LIKE AT AN ANGLE, YOU CAN TELL THE NETTING THERE. MM-HMM. , THIS IS WHERE THE NETTING STOPS. AND SO THIS IS THE AREA OF CONCERN WHERE HE'S, HE'S REQUESTING THAT IT CONTINUE, UM, DOWN HERE YARDS 80 FEET HIGH. AND I DID CLOSE 300 YARDS FROM THET. AND I FOUND IN OUR RECORDS THAT THERE WAS A, I BELIEVE THIS WAS A QUESTION MAYBE WHAT YEAR IS IT? MAYBE SEVEN YEARS AGO THIS QUESTION CAME UP BECAUSE THESE TREES WERE BEING TRIMMED AND SO SOMEONE HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT IT. AND SO, UM, BUT IN LOOKING AT IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON HOW TO TRIM THE TREES OR HOW NOT TO TRIM THE TREES. BUT, UM, THE DETERMINATION AT THAT TIME WAS BASICALLY MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY GOLF BALL LEAVING PAST THIS AREA WOULD BE A RESULT OF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, MAKING AN EGREGIOUSLY INCORRECT SHOT. SO, UM, YOU, I LIKE THAT PHRASE. SO THAT'S GREAT. WE DID A SURVEY WITH, I THINK IT WAS 642 GOLFERS. WE WATCHED EVERYONE GOLF BALLS AND TWO GOLF BALLS WENT OVER THE NET, DIDN'T CAUSE ANY DAMAGE. WENT OVER THE NET OFF THE T DRIVES OFF THE T WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING FROM THE SECOND SHOT. YEAH. WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE T SHOT, THE LEFT NET COMES OUT, THE T IS ANGLED TO THE RIGHT, THE NET PROTECTS PEOPLE. SO HERE'S WHERE YOU'RE AIMING DEAD LEFT RIGHT OFF THE T. YEAH. AND THAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT ALMOST TO THE FAIRWAY. THEN THE NET PICKS UP ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT AREA, IT PICKS UP AND IT'S 80 FEET HIGH, 300 YARDS DOWN THE FAIRWAY. UM, AND THE, THE BUSINESS THAT, THAT, THAT'S BRINGING THIS UP, AND I THINK BRIAN BODA TALKED TO HIM TODAY. UM, BUT I TALKED TO HIM AGAIN THIS MORNING. I TALKED TO HIM YESTERDAY AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM, I SAID, LOOK, YOU CAN PUT UP A HUNDRED FEET OF NET ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT HOLE. IT'S NOT GONNA STOP THE GOLF WALLS FROM COMING OUT. YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP THE AIR AND GOLF BALL. THAT'S ONE IN A BLUE MOON THAT HITS A BUILDING OR HITS A CAR. AND WE DO HAVE THAT HAPPEN OCCASIONALLY, BUT ADDING MORE NETTING IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE OF WHAT HE WANTS US TO DO. THE, THE DIRECTION FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM IS IF THERE IS A, AN AREA THAT IS A PROBLEM, AND IT'S A PROBLEM IN OUR SYSTEM WITH, UM, BALLS REPORTED LEAVING THE GOLF COURSE DAMAGE TO PROPERTY. WHEN A GOLF BALL LEAVES THE GOLF COURSE FROM A PACIFIC AREA ON A SPECIFIC HOLE, IF THERE IS AN ISSUE DEEMED IN OUR SYSTEM TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THEN WE WOULD TAKE ACTION. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S COME UP. AND LIKE I SAID, WE WENT BACK. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN LONG BEACH 40 YEARS. WE MADE HAVE A PROBLEM ON THE PROBLEM ON THIS HOLE UNTIL HIS BUILDING GOT HIT AND HIS BUILDING GOT HIT IN A VERY AWKWARD POSITION. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE BALL MADE IT DOWN THE SIDE STREET AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IT'S A VERY BAD SHOT AND YOU'RE NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO PROTECT. HOW MANY TIMES DOES YOUR BALL HIT THAT BUILDING? HE SAID TWICE. SO I THINK HE SAID A BROKEN WINDOW AND A BROKEN FRONT DOOR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWICE, LIKE DOWN THE STREET TWICE. I, TO BE HONEST, WE CAN'T TELL YOU IF THAT WINDOW ON THE STREET WAS BROKEN BY. NO, UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HE'S, HE'S ONLY CLAIMING TWICE AND HOW MANY YEARS? I THINK THEY BOUGHT THE BUILDING LIKE A YEAR AGO. MM-HMM. , I THINK. UM, AND WELL THE, THE CLAIMS WERE MADE IN 21 OR 22 IF IT, I THINK, OH, I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT FAR BACK. WAS IT? IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO. UM, OR THAT WOULD BE TWO YEARS AGO. 22. AND THE, AND THE ONLY OTHER CLAIM, I, I FOUND RECORD OF TWO OTHER CLAIMS SINCE 2010. SO THAT'S THREE IN THE PAST 14 YEARS THAT WE'VE SEEN. SO, UM, OVER THE FENCER AT THAT BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE WERE. OKAY. THE, IT WAS ALONG ANAHEIM. OKAY. ALONG STREET. THEY, THEY, THEY WERE FUR BOB LIVINGSTON. THEY WERE FURTHER DOWN. IT WAS WHEN I WAS WORKING HERE AND IT WAS, IT WAS MUCH FURTHER DOWN. OKAY. WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT AND I THINK A LEFT-HANDER COULD POSSIBLY POP IT OVER AND BOUNCE ON THE STREET TO GET TO THAT BUILDING. BUT LIKE GARY SAID, YOU CAN PUT A HUNDRED FEET AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA PERFECTLY PREVENT THE PROBLEM. ANY OTHER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT [00:35:01] BOB MILLY? OR JUST TO REITERATE GARY'S POINT THAT THAT, UH, FIRST NETT BOX IS ANGLED MM-HMM. AND WE'RE ALL HUMAN AND PEOPLE, I CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE, SOME WEEKEND GOLFERS WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T PLAY A LOT ARE JUST GONNA SHANK BALLS UP OVER THAT. IT'S, IT'S A HARD THING TO DO. I MEAN, THE, THE, THE NET IS SUPER STEEP, BUT I CAN SEE IF YOU, IF YOU HIT UNDERNEATH THE BALL AND IT GOES OFF THE TOP OF YOUR CLUB, IT'S GONNA GO STRAIGHT UP AND OVER TO THE LEFT. SO, AND EVEN IF YOU PUT, I DON'T KNOW, A 400 FOOT HIGH FENCE, IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL GONNA GET UP OVER THAT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, QUESTION ON THAT. WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT 300 YARDS FOR A SHANK BALL OVER A FENCE AT THAT ANGLE TO GO 300 YARDS AND HIT THAT BUILDING IS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE. HUNDRED 50 STRAIGHT UP OVER THE FENCE AND THEN IT'S GONNA HIT THE STREET AND GO 400 YARDS POINT OF CLARITY. WE CAN'T, SORRY. KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH. I KNOW THAT'S, I'M THE BAD GUY. I'M SORRY. LER . IT'S A TOUGH SHOT. IT'S NOT AN EASY SHOT, BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT I HAVE TO WORK ON THAT. DON'T, IT'S NOT. NO, PLEASE DON'T. IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE TO TO SPEAK OUTSIDE LOOKING AT IT, IF FROM OUR LEGAL STANDPOINT, AND AGAIN, I'M TRANSLATING OR I'M RELAYING A MESSAGE FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM, IF, IF TWO AARON GOLF BALL COMPLAINTS FROM A BUSINESS OWNER REQUIRES US TO PUT UP $500,000 IN NETTING, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING UP NETTING WITH OUR CIP PROJECTS. WHY DON'T YOU JUST FIX THE WINDOW , HE BOUGHT A BUSINESS NEXT TO A GOLF COURSE. MM-HMM. . THERE'S AN AARON GOLF BALL CLAUSE IN MY HOME THAT I BOUGHT, AND I DON'T LIVE ON A GOLF COURSE, BUT THERE'S AN AIR GOLF BALL QUALITY IN THERE. IT'S IN THE LONG BEACH GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL. THE GOLFER'S RESPONSIBLE FOR AIR GOLF, BALL, PSYCH. SO IT'S, IT'S A STANCE THAT THE LEGAL TEAM'S HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE COMPANY, I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS AND THEY'VE NEVER CHANGED THAT, THAT DECISION. SO A QUESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE BASED ON ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT WE SEE HERE, IT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE HAPPEN ALMOST EVER. AS YOU SAID THAT, THAT IT'S A, IT'S A MIRACULOUS SHOT THE WAY I SEE IT. BUT WERE THERE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE, HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE, UH, MADE SIMILAR CLAIMS? AND, AND THEN SECOND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A PROCESS UPDATE. SO WE'VE SORT OF HEARD THE AMERICAN GOLF, UM, UNDERSTANDING AND PERSPECTIVE. AND, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS TOPIC AT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE AS FAR AS A PROCESS UPDATE, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS? WELL THEN I'D PROBABLY MOVE TO MAKE AN ADDEND OF THAT. 'CAUSE THE PROCESS IS, IS BASED ON OUR LIABILITY FOR AMERICAN GOLF AND WHAT OUR LEGAL TEAM DECIDE. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S LIABILITY. RIGHT. AND, AND YEAH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WORK WITH, WE WOULD, LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD KIND OF LEAN ON AMERICAN GOLF AS, AS BEING THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. AND SO, LIKE YOU SAID, THINGS GET FLAGGED IN THEIR SYSTEM WHEN THEY ARE A QUOTE UNQUOTE ISSUE. UM, ANOTHER, SO THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING LOOKED AT IT AND KIND OF COME TO THIS DECISION, ANOTHER, THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE IF THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, KNOW WERE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WERE TO STILL HAVE CONCERNS OR, OR STILL WANNA INVESTIGATE. YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE CAN ALWAYS REC, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CIP. UM, WHEN THE CIP COMES THROUGH, WE HAVE OUR GENERAL, LIKE OUR NORMAL PROCESS, UH, ONCE A YEAR. UM, AMERICAN GOLF BRINGS FORTH THE CIP LIST. UM, THIS COMMITTEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE VOTES ON IT, THIS COMMITTEE VOTES ON IT AS A WHOLE, AND THEN WE TAKE IT TO THE DIRECTOR. UM, THE DIRECTOR IS THE ONE WHO WOULD SIGN OFF ON IT OR NOT. UM, THIS COMMITTEE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF IT LIKES IT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WILL NECESSARILY BE ADDED TO THE LIST, ESPECIALLY IF AMERICAN GOLF IS OPPOSED TO IT AND HAS, YOU KNOW, THEIR REASONING FOR THAT. WE WOULD IN GENERAL RESPECT THAT UNLESS WE SEE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY ALARMING. NOT SURE I ADDRESSED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. IT'S, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S SO UNCOMMON THAT, THAT THAT'S PART OF THE CONFUSION HERE. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT SEEMS TO ME. MM-HMM. . IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING ON A WEEKLY BASIS OR EVEN A MONTHLY BASIS. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WAS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY REIMBURSED OR THE BROKEN GLASS? NO. NO. THAT WAS THE CLAIM HE FILED AND THAT WAS DENIED, BUT IT WAS DENIED BY AMERICAN GOLF. IT WAS DENIED. OKAY. UHHUH . YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF HE EVER, I HAVEN'T, I DID NOT HEAR OF ANYTHING BEING FILED WITH THE CITY. BUT IN GENERAL, WHEN IT'S AN OPERATOR LIKE THAT, THEY, YOU KNOW, THE [00:40:01] CITY WOULD IN GENERAL DENY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE IT, IT SHOULD GO TO THE, WELL IT SHOULD GO TO THE GOLFER IN THIS CASE, BUT THE GOLFER AND OR AMERICAN GOLF. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON THAT. OKAY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE THREE CLAIMS IN 14 YEARS THAT I, THAT I'M AWARE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. MM-HMM. . I'LL JUST BRING UP THAT I HAVE HEARD OF THINGS LIKE CAMERAS AND WHATNOT, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE CLAIMS IN 14 YEARS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT'S SUCH A SMALL AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PROTECTIONS THERE FROM WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN. I KNOW. AND 300 YARDS DOES SEEM LIKE A LONG WAY. I KNOW IT'S DOWNWIND MOST OF THE TIME ON THAT HOLE, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT THIS IS NOT HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. SO, AND I DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DID INDEED HAVE A GOLF BALL COME THROUGH AND BREAK A WINDOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS TROUBLING. BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO US TO RISE TO THE LEVEL OF NECESSITATING UH, INSTALLATION OF, OF, YOU KNOW, MORE NETTING AT THAT LOCATION. AND I THINK HE, HE SUBMITTED A CLAIM FOR THE FRONT DOOR GLASS. I DON'T THINK A CLAIM EVER CAME IN FOR THE WINDOW. OKAY. UM, YEAH, I REMEMBER THE MEETING. I'VE GOT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE. DOUBLE CHECK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? OKAY. AND, UH, WITH THAT, I GUESS WE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND YOU CAN CALL THE ROLL MEMBER BARETT. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IS WE'RE JUST SAYING YES TOO, THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS 'CAUSE WE HAVE NO, UM, THAT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE, WE'RE IT, IT IS, UH, TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS. OKAY. PERFECT PROCESS. I JUST WANTED TO BE, YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO BARETT? YES. OKAY. MEMBER INGS? YES. MEMBER DEMITRI. YES. MEMBER RICHIE. YES. MEMBER YOUNG. YES. CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE AMERICAN GOLF FEES REQUEST FOR 2024. 2025. JUST SUGGESTED ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT TO RETAIN A MOTION. A MOTION WE WHAT WE DOING, UM, APPROVE THE AMERICAN GOLF FEES FOR 24 25. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND MOTION BARRETT SECOND RICHIE. AND WITH THAT WE WILL, UH, HAND IT OVER TO GARY JUST REALLY QUICK. IF, IF I MAY, SORRY. AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, IT'S PHRASE AS A REQUEST IN THE AGENDA. I APOLOGIZE. I MAY HAVE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO A BETTER JOB NEXT TIME. BUT, UM, UH, THE, SO IN THE AMERICAN GOLF LEASE, UM, THEY MAY INCREASE FEES TO THE LEVEL OF CPI ROUNDED DOWN TO THE NEAREST QUARTER. SO, UM, THAT IS THE ALLOWED FOR THEM TO DO EVERY YEAR. SO, UM, IF IT, IF THEY'RE REQUESTING INCREASES ABOVE THAT AMOUNT, THEN THAT'S WHEN, UM, WE LIKE TO HAVE APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE AND THEN WE TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE DIRECTOR WHO RECOMMENDS IT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN NOW WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. UM, THIS, UH, THESE FEES, UM, UH, DO NOT REACH THAT LEVEL SO THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY ALLOWED UNDER THE LEASE. BUT BY ALL MEANS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UP FOR DISCUSSION AND COMMENT FROM ALL OF YOU. SO GARY, UM, VERY WELL SAID. LIKE I SAID, YOU'LL SEE ON THE, UM, PERCENTAGE CHANGE ON THE THIRD COLUMN OF EACH GOLF COURSE. UM, ROUNDED DOWN TO THE NEAREST QUARTER ON THE COLUMNS TO THE LEFT OF THAT. AND THEN ALL BELOW THE CPI OF 2.53 FOR THE LAST YEAR. UH, FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER OF 2023, UM, NO INCREASES IN THE JUNIOR RATES, UM, OR THE SENIOR BACK NINE RATE. UM, THE PLAYERS' CLUB FEES HAVE NOT GONE UP FOR AFTER THE 12 O'CLOCK ACCESS OR TWO O'CLOCK ACCESS CARD FEES HAVE STAY THE SAME. UM, AND OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN IT'S A MIDDLE INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD. UH, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION QUESTION. WE HAVE TIERED PRICING BASED ON THE GOLF COURSES AND I KNOW THAT WAS SET IN MOTION LONG BEFORE YOU WERE HERE. IS THERE ANY THINKING ABOUT GOING TO RACK RATES THE SAME AT ALL THE COURSES? I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD COME IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS RAISED IS DO WE GO UP AT RACK ANDEL THOUGH, OR DO WE GO DOWN AT SKYLINES? IS THERE A HAPPY MEDIUM SOMEWHERE? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. UM, I THINK IN 2004 AFTER THE REMODEL, UM, SKY LINKS WAS MADE TO BE THE PREMIER FORCE WITH [00:45:01] WALL, WALL, BERMUDA, GREENS, YOU NAME IT. UM, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS WANTED SKY LINKS TO BE A HIGHER PRICE. 'CAUSE WE'RE ALSO PAYING DOWN THE BOND THROUGH 2029 WITH AGREED FEES. SO IF WE BROUGHT THE COURT DOWN, YOU'RE GONNA PAY THE BOND OFF WITH MORE CIP DOLLARS. BUT NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST IT. I JUST THINK YOU PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD AGREE, BUT I THINK SKY LINKS IS THE BETTER QUOTE . WELL WHAT, WHAT I'LL GO WITH MAINTAIN, BETTER MAINTAIN , YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT WAS PRETTY WELL MAINTAINED. YEAH. OKAY. THAT ANSWER. IS THERE AN IMPACT ON THE CLUB FEES? LIKE THE LADIES CLUB FEES? UM, LADIES CLUB WENT FROM 38 TO 38 75. THEY AT RESIDENT, RIGHT? WHERE AM I LOOKING AT? WELL IF YOU LOOK AT, AT RECREATION PARK WALKING THIS 38 75 FOR THE LAKE. OKAY, BUT WHERE DOES IT LADIES CLUBS, MEN'S CLUBS AND MEN'S CLUB. THE CLUBS. YEAH. YEAH. BUT WHAT'S, HOW'S IT LISTED OVER THERE? 30 RATHER. 38. SEE THEY'RE SKY LINK. YEAH. THEY RAISE AT 70 EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT A RESIDENT. BUT WHAT ARE, WHAT'S IT CALLED OVER HERE? UM, RESIDENT LINK. YEAH, RESIDENT RESIDENT. OKAY. NOW I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT THE CPI I WAS 18 2, 2 0.53%. SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW DRAMATIC SOME OF THE INCREASES YEAH. WOULD, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. IT NICE TO SEE THAT, THAT NUMBER MUCH, MUCH SMALLER AND UM, 5.77% LAST YEAR. MM-HMM. EIGHT. EIGHT. YEAH. DOES AMERICAN DOLL PAY THE RENT TO THE CITY? MM-HMM. DOES ANY OF THAT MONEY GO TO MAINTAIN BASKETBALL COURTS AND TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLE COURTS AND ALL THE STUFF OUT HERE THAT PEOPLE DON'T PAY FOR THE MONEY FROM THE LEASE GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO IT GOES INTO WHO KNOWS WHERE, WHERE THEY WANT. MM-HMM. OKAY WITH THAT ANY, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, SORRY, QUESTION. WHAT ARE THE RATES GOING IN JULY 1ST? OKAY. AND JUST A QUICK COMMENT, CRAIG LER, I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT YOU PROPOSED ZERO IN THE JUNIOR RATES. THANKS FOR THAT. YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. ANY, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. OKAY, VERY GOOD. BACK TO THE MEMBERS. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND AND YOU CAN CALL THE ROLL. UH, MEMBER BARRETT? YES. MEMBER CONING? YES. MEMBER DEMETRIO? YES. MEMBER RICHIE? YES. MEMBER YOUNG? YES. CO-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. AND WE NOW HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT ITEMS, OTHERWISE NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA. I, I HAVE, YEAH. ME ANYTHING. UM, IN THE LAST MEETING IN UH, NOVEMBER, I RAISED THE ISSUE ABOUT TEE TIMES BEING MOVED WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE, UH, THE, UH, RECIPIENTS WHO HAD OBSERVED THOSE TEE TIMES SUNG WAS HERE, UH, AT THAT MEETING TO REPLACE YOU. AND UH, HE BASICALLY, HIS SHORT ANSWER WAS IT'S UM, BUSINESS, IT'S IT'S TYPICAL BUSINESS FOR GOLF COURSES TO ADD TEE TIMES AND MOVE PEOPLE AROUND AND SHUFFLE. AND THE, THE ISSUE HAVING GOLFED IN LONG BEACH FOR A LONG TIME, I'M KIND OF RE SUMMARIZING THIS, IS THAT IT, IT GOT REALLY, REALLY BAD LAST FALL, SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER ON, AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING, I BROUGHT IT UP AND LITERALLY LIKE SOMEONE FLIPPED A SWITCH FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. THERE WAS NO TEE TIMES BEING MOVED BACK IN JANUARY IT STARTED AGAIN. AND AS AN EXAMPLE, 'CAUSE SOME OF THESE FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE WERE LIKE, WELL IT'S ONLY FIVE MINUTES, IT'S 10 MINUTES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT, UH, SUPER BOWL WEEKEND, WHICH WAS JANUARY 28TH, MY TEE TIME, WE HAD TWO, TWO FOURSOMES PUT IN FRONT OF US AND ULTIMATELY WE TEED OFF ABOUT A MINIMUM A HALF AN HOUR LATE. UM, WE GOT TO THE TURN, IT WAS TWO AND A HALF HOURS. TWO OF THE PEOPLE, I DIDN'T KNOW THEM, THEY WALKED OFF THE COURSE 'CAUSE IT WAS TOO SLOW. SINCE THEN, I'VE CONFIRMED WITH EMPLOYEES AT THE, UH, AT THE DESKS OF ALL THE GOLF COURSES THAT AT MANAGER'S [00:50:01] DISCRETION, FIVE TO SIX TEE TIMES ARE ADDED IN THE MORNING. SO AS WE ALL ARE AWARE, THE TEE TIMES RUN, YOU KNOW, 10 MINUTES, 20, 30, 40, UH, YOU CAN GO AND SEE 35, 45 AND 50 FIVES IN THERE. SO, SO IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THEY'RE ADDING TEE TIMES. AND AGAIN, MY CONCERN, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S BUSINESS, BUT THOSE OF US SHOULD AT LEAST GET AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, YOUR TEE TIME HAS BEEN MOVED SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HANG OUT FOR AN EXTRA HALF AN HOUR. IN THE CASE OF THE JANUARY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. WE, WE CAN'T RESPOND TO THE, CAN WE, IT'S HAPPENING. WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, AGAIN, IT'S HAPPENING, IT'S HAPPENING EVERY WEEK. IT HAPPENED LAST WEEK. I, I MEAN I HAVE PICTURES OF THE TETON SHEETS AND I HAVE MY RESERVATION, WHICH SHOWS MY SEVEN 30 AND I GO OFF AT SEVEN 50 OR EIGHT O'CLOCK BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING PUSHED BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDING OTHER 10 TIMES. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU PUSHED 20 OR 30 MINUTES AGO? YES SIR. YEAH. SO I'M ASKING THAT. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, SEND ME AN EMAIL SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO HANG OUT AT THE COURSE. I MEAN WHEN IT RAINS OUT AND EL DORADO FOR EXAMPLE, GOES TO WALKING ONLY NO CARTS. YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE RESERVATION. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE PERMISSION TO USE AN EXAMPLE. YOU MAKE DINNER RESERVATIONS AT A RESTAURANT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SHOW UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE'LL BE WITH YOU IN 30 MINUTES. YOU'RE NOT VERY HAPPY, YOU'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE HUFFY. SO I'M ASKING FOR THE SAME, SAME, YOU KNOW, TREATMENT AND, AND IT, IT'S BACK HAPPENING AGAIN NOW AS I SPEAK. IT STOPPED LITERALLY AFTER THE NOVEMBER MEETING AND IT STARTED UP JANUARY 1ST. AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT THE PEOPLE AT THE FRONT DESK WHEN YOU WALK IN AND SAY NO, MY TWO TIMES AT SEVEN 30 AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO, YOU'RE SEVEN 50 NOW. WHAT? YOU CAN'T TAKE IT OUT ON THEM. RIGHT. I MEAN IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM EITHER. THESE PEOPLE WORKING AT THE FRONT DESK. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. I THINK MATT, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? WE, WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT SINCE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA TO GABE TODAY, BUT IT, IT CAN BE ON AN AGENDA IN THE FUTURE. ALRIGHT. UM, ONTO ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR NOT FOR ME, UNLESS ANY OF OUR MEMBERS HAD ANY, UM, DID YOU ANNOUNCE THERESA? NO, I DID NOT. UM, I BELIEVE WE ALREADY MENTIONED IT, BUT, UM, THERESA, UH, TODAY SUBMITTED HER RESIGNATION FROM THE COMMITTEE. SHE'S TRAVELING A LOT AND SHE JUST, I GUESS IS INVESTING IN ANOTHER NEW BUSINESS. SO, UM, SHE STEPPED AWAY, UM, FROM THE COMMITTEE. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY, AS I MENTIONED, UM, RECRUITING NEW MEMBERS. SO I'M HOPING BY MAY WILL BE A FULL ROSTER. SO, UM, AND, UH, CAN WE WORK ON A, CAN WE SCHEDULE OUR NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE, WE DO HAVE A MEETING DATE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE WHO WON'T MAKE IT. AND SINCE QUORUMS KIND OF TIGHT RIGHT NOW, CAN WE LIKE LOOK AT MEETING DATES RIGHT NOW? I THINK SENDING OUT LIKE A, LIKE A JUST DOING IT ONLINE WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE. OKAY. WE'LL DO THAT. WATCH YOUR EMAILS FOR A SCHEDULING POLL FOR THE MAY MEETING 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE IT. THANK YOU. OH, THE ONE THAT'S ON THE BOOKS. WE'RE MOVING THAT ONE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. MAY 2ND IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THAT'S IT FROM ME. THANK YOU. NOW I HAVEN'T COVERED ALREADY MEMBERS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. OH THEN THANK YOU FOR SHARING TODAY. YES, THANK YOU. NO, I THINK WE HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED IT OUT YET. I THINK WE'RE MAYBE MOVING IN THE, THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE STILL HAVE SOME, SOME WORK TO DO, BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND, UM, THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. I THINK, UH, AT 3 28 THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.