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MEETING OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.UM, I GUESS WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER CHAIR KELLY? YEP.
COMMISSION VICE-CHAIRMAN OR PRESENT.
THIS IS THE AGENDA TO RECOMMEND, I RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS INTERVIEW MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS FOR THURSDAY, MAY 9TH, 2024.
SO LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, UM, IT'S PRETTY SPARSE.
IT'S, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO GET, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE PROMISED, UH, UH, AVIS, UM, SOMEBODY FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
THEY ARE TOUGH TO TRACK DOWN, GET, UH, GET ONTO THE CALENDAR.
SO THAT'S MY BIG WANT FOR, FOR THE YEAR.
I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THEM AND THEN IT JUST, I JUST DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OTHER THAN THE, THE FEE, UH, FEE WAIVER FOR, FOR THIS MONTH.
BUT MY GOAL IS TO GET SOMEBODY FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, UH, HOMELESS SERVICES, UH, MM-HMM.
UM, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT GONNA BE A DAY, BUT I'M GONNA TRY FOR JUNE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIRELESS EFFORTS REGARDING
IS THERE ANOTHER UPDATE THAT WE COULD BE GETTING FROM, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, MAYBE ANOTHER CHARLENE BRIEFING, OR LET ME, LET ME CHECK IN WITH HER, SEE WHAT HER AVAILABILITY IS.
MAYBE WE CAN ADD IT TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.
UM, I THINK THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
KINDA LET, LET'S GET A DEEPER DIVE AND REALLY UNDERSTAND MAINTENANCE OR UNDERSTAND THE PERCENTAGE THAT IT'S IMPACTING US WITH VANDALISM OR THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
I DON'T THINK WE THOROUGHLY APPRECIATE WHAT ALL OUR STAFF DOES, ESPECIALLY AFTER THAT, THE HUGE VANDALISM OVER THERE AT, AT THE LAGOON AND, AND HOW QUICKLY, UM, OUR FOLKS RESPONDED.
AND YOU'RE SAYING IN OUR, JUST AS A PART OF OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE, JUST A, MAYBE A DEEPER DIVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS ROTATING AROUND, UM, THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, GRAND PRIX, UM, I WALKED THAT AREA.
I CAME IN THE GATE WITH, UM, A FIRE TRUCK AND TWO POLICE CARS, AND IT WAS THAT LEAK THAT HAD SPRUNG IN THE ONE MARINA RESTROOM.
AND BOTH POLICE AND FIRE WERE CONCERNED THAT THAT WAS AN ACT OF VANDALISM, SO THEY WERE THERE IN FULL FORCE.
UM, AND IT REALLY SHOWS THE TREMENDOUS RESPONSE THAT WE GET.
UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU WALK AROUND ALL OF THOSE AREAS AND WHAT OUR PEOPLE HAVE DONE, UM, TO AVOID ACTS OF VANDALISM AND TO, I, I SAW NO HOMELESS FOLKS IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT JUST, IT LOOKS SO CLEAN AND SO GOOD AND FRESHLY PAINTED, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE DOCKS AND SEEING, UM, ALL OUR MARINE STAFF THAT ARE, UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, LOOKING SO DAPPER IN UNIFORM, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPECT FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S IN A PROPER UNIFORM WITH A CLIPBOARD IN THEIR HAND.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, YEAH, THE, UH, THE FEE WAIVER FOR, UH, THE, UH, RACE WEEK, UH, IT'S, IT'S OUR STANDARD FEE WAIVER.
WE'RE AC WE HAVE ACTUALLY REDUCED IT THIS YEAR, UH, FROM THE STANDARD 15 DOWN TO
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10, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN, UH, A LESSER AMOUNT USED OH, OKAY.SO, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE REDUCED THE ACTUAL, UH, OVERALL WAIVER FOR THAT ONE.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, WE'RE JUST, UH, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW.
I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS KIND OF MOVING WITH RACE WEEK, HOWEVER, WE STILL WANT TO DO THE WAIVER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY OKAY.
SO IF WE NEED TO TWEAK IT, KEEP IT A LITTLE GENERIC.
UM, ALSO IN THOSE REPORTS, ONE THING, UM, THAT'LL, THAT I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WAS PUTTING OUT, FORBID THE, THE LARGE SLIPS IN THE FRONT AND THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE LONG IN THE TOOTH.
AND IT'S, UM, IT'S GETTING MORE AND MORE NOTICEABLE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME, UM, STOPGAP MEASURES TO REMOVE SOME STUFF THAT WE COULD DO OR, UM, SOME TEMPORARY REPAIRS.
SOMETHING TO JUST GET IT LOOKING LIKE THE REST OF THE MARINA.
MY GOAL, UH, WE JUST GOT, UH, WE WERE BRINGING ON, UH, OUR ON-CALL, UH, ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TETRA DECK.
UH, WE JUST GOT A SCOPE OF WORK FOR INITIAL DESIGN RENDERING, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, THE HOPE IS TO HAVE A PROJECT READY DESIGN IN THE NEXT SEVEN MONTHS FOR THOSE TO BE, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, BUT TO HAVE 'EM DONE RIGHT NOW, WELL, TO JUST EVEN REMOVE SOME OF THAT, THAT'S SINKING.
UH, I'LL HAVE, UH, MAINTENANCE STAFF HEAD OVER THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
THE REMOVING STUFF THAT WOULD SINKING, THAT'S A BIG CAPITAL PROJECT, BUT WE'LL HAVE MAINTENANCE STAFF SHORING IT UP TEMPORARILY, EVEN IF PEOPLE AREN'T ON THAT DOCK.
JUST SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA PROTECT IT IN A STORM OR SOMETHING ELSE IS YEAH.
BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF OUR GATEWAY INTO THE MARINA.
WE'LL HAVE MAINTENANCE CUT OUT THERE AND CHECK AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO ANY, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN IN MAY, WE USUALLY DO HEAR ABOUT LIKE, GETTING READY FOR THE SUMMER AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I WAS IMAGINING THAT JUST BEING MANAGER'S REPORT.
UH, STANDARD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UH, PREPPING THE PREPPING TO OPEN UP THE BEACH RESTROOMS, OUR PUBLIC RESTROOMS TOTAL.
YOU KNOW, WE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN OUR, OUR OFF SEASON MODE, WE'RE HALF ARE OPEN, HALF ARE CLOSED.
SO, UH, RIGHT BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY, WE WILL, WE WILL OPEN ALL, ALL MAY.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO GIVE A DEEPER DIVE ON WHAT ALL THAT INVOLVES, GETTING THAT MUCH READY AND THEN HOW THE WHOLE SCHEDULE CHANGES OVER THE SUMMER.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A ROUGH NUMBER OF ALMOST CUSTOMER COUNT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE SEE USING THOSE RESTROOMS. AND I THINK SOME NEWS ON THE WEE BITS WOULD BE INTERESTING TOO.
LIKE, WHEN IS THAT GONNA GO OUT? IS THAT GONNA GO OUT BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY AFTER? NO, THIS GOES, UH, WE STARTED A NEW PROCESS LAST YEAR.
UH, WITH, UH, TO A LINE WITH L-B-U-S-D.
UH, SO, UH, WE WILL START PUTTING THEM OUT JUNE 1ST.
THEY'LL BE OUT AND READY BY, BY JUNE IS THAT 16TH? 17TH.
SO THEY'LL BE READY TO GO IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR PARKS RECREATION, MARINE, SUMMER, YEAH.
THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'LL BE, YOU'LL BE STARTING TO DO THAT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO THAT, AND THEN HOW THE CONDITION OF THE, WE BITS, THIS WILL BE THE THIRD YEAR, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE AT LEAST THE ONE
AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME VANDALISM WITH ONE OF 'EM A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT WAS THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY HANDLING, HOW LONG ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE? LIKE, WHAT'S THEIR LIFECYCLE? I DON'T KNOW.
'CAUSE THEY'RE SITTING OUT THERE IN THE WATER FOR FOUR MONTHS.
UH, WE DO GOOD JOB OF MAINTAINING THEM AND WHILE BRINGING THEM IN, CLEANING THEM UP, STORING IN THEM, AND THEN PUTTING 'EM BACK OUT.
UH, BUT YEAH, THE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAVE IS VANDALISM.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF
IT'S THE, THE GREAT PART ABOUT THEM IS THAT THEY'RE MODULE YEAH.
SO WE CAN REPLACE REPLACE PIECES.
PIECES AS WE GO FROM FIREWORK DAMAGE.
AND SO I DON'T THINK OVERALL WE'LL SEE A LOT OF ISSUES OF LONG TERM REPLACEMENT BECAUSE WE'RE REPLACING PIECES YEAH.
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STEADILY DUE TO OTHER ISSUES.UM, BUT THAT'S MORE SO AT BAY SHORE THAN AT, UH, AT ALAMEDAS.
ALAMEDAS IS OUT IN THE WATER WHERE IT'S, UH, OUT IN THE OCEAN FRONT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, I I, I THINK SOME COUNTS IF THERE ARE COUNTS ON HOW OFTEN THEY'RE USED.
'CAUSE I MEAN, MY KIDS USE THE ALAMEDAS ONE, BUT I DON'T THE ONE BAY SURE.
I'M, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY KIDS USE THAT.
I'VE SEEN KIDS USUALLY ON IT, BUT THEN IS THE LOCATION I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE GIVEN THE OTHER CA UH, STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN BRIEFED ON ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, THE LA COUNTY CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON IN ALAMITOS PRETTY CLOSE TO THERE.
SO IS THERE GONNA BE ANY MOVEMENT? IS IT GONNA BE THE SAME SPOT? NO, IT'LL BE IN THE SAME PLACE.
UH, THERE, THEY'LL HAVE, UH, THE STANDARD, UH, UH, CURTAIN YEAH.
SO IT, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON, ON ANYTHING WE DO DOWN THERE.
THOSE KIND OF SOUND UNDER THE WHOLE UMBRELLA OF SUMMER READINESS.
AND MAYBE IF EACH ONE OF THE ROUTINE REPORTS HAD THAT THEME OKAY.
THEN THAT WOULD MAKE A NICE CONTINUUM THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CLEANING THINGS UP, WE'RE GETTING THINGS READY.
UM, WHICH REMINDED ME OF THE DRY STORAGE IN BASIN FOUR.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TO CLEAN THAT AREA UP.
UM, FOR, THAT'S, THAT'S AT THE END OF BASIN FOUR FOR THE YEAH.
ADJACENT TO THE, UM, SEA SCOUT BASE THERE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT'S, UH, SPACE USED BY SEA SCOUTS AND THE YACHT CLUB.
SO WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T PLAY WELL.
AND UM, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THEY NO LONGER HAVE A DIRECTOR THERE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHAT WE'LL DO A DOUBLE CHECK ON, UM, ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE GOING ON THAT NO, NO.
UH, IT'S PART OF THEIR, UH, PART OF THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER.
SO RIGHT NOW THEY, THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S ACTING YEAH.
MARK MODERAT AND THEY, THEY, THEY'RE WORKING THAT.
AND UM, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THAT'LL BE RESOLVED, BUT I THINK THAT WE WANNA MAKE, MAYBE MAKE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ON OUR END THAT WE'VE GOT OUR MARINE PATROL FOLKS THAT ARE AWARE.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF IN TRANSITION AND AS THEY DO THEIR SUMMER READINESS AND LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT STORAGE AREA.
IS THERE ANY GONNA BE, I REMEMBER LAST YEAR I RAISED THE ISSUE OF LIKE SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE KIDS USUALLY JUMP OFF IN ALAMEDA BAY.
LIKE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THINGS THAT SAY DON'T JUMP OFF FROM HERE WITH A PIPE.
AND UM, ACTUALLY RIGHT OVER HERE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH MARINA THIS IS, BUT THAT THIS MARINA RIGHT HERE ON PENINSULA BASIN FIVE.
IS THAT FIVE? YEAH, FIVE IS RIGHT BY ALAMEDA YACHT CLUB.
OH, THE ONE A LITTLE BIT DOWN SS YEAH.
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF KIDS THAT JUMP OFF YEAH.
WELL, THE LIFEGUARDS, THE LIFEGUARDS KEEP ON COMING UP AND SAYING, HEY, DON'T JUMP FROM HERE.
AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY GET BACK TO THEIR STATION, THERE'S OTHER KIDS WHO DIDN'T HEAR, DON'T JUMP FROM HERE.
THEY'RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT KIDS.
AND THE LIFEGUARD JUST KEEPS ON WALKING BACK AND FORTH AND IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING SAYING, HEY, DON'T JUMP FROM HERE.
I GOTTA FOLLOW BACK UP WITH MARINE MAINTENANCE ON THAT.
WE'VE BEEN PROMISING THE LIFEGUARDS THAT WILL, WILL, UH, STENCIL PAINT.
UH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT DONE BY OUR MEETING.
IT'S PART OF OUR SUMMER READINESS.
IT, IT WOULD, EVEN IF THAT'S NOT ABLE, I MEAN THAT'S TYPICALLY I SEE THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY KIDS WANT TO GO.
I'LL TALK TO CORY ABOUT THAT TODAY.
BECAUSE THE ONLY THING I'VE SEEN THERE BEFORE PREVENTING KIDS FROM GOING ONTO THAT AREA IS ONE CONE.
AND THE KIDS JUST MOVED THE CONE AND THEY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE THE NO JUMPING SIGNS ON THE, ON THE BRIDGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT NOW.
BUT, OR EPOXY ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO THE FREAKING WALL IF YOU CAN'T STEN IT.
BUT STENCILING IS EASY ENOUGH.
I KNOW SIGNS ARE DIFFICULT WITH CITIES.
WE'VE, WE'VE HAD BACK AND FORTHS WITH THE LIFEGUARDS FOR, SINCE LAST SUMMER.
IT JUST, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HASN'T BEEN DONE, SO I'LL CHECK IN WITH THE STAFF.
IF I HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND STENCIL IT MYSELF, I WILL.
IS THERE ANY LIKE, DISCUSSION WITH THE DUFFY BOAT PEOPLE BEFORE THE HIGH SEASON OR SOMETHING ABOUT, HEY, HERE
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ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS.WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE COVID, UH, OKAY.
WE HAVE A MEETING PRIMARILY WITH OVER HERE, UH, TO MM-HMM.
MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE LOCKED DOWN TIGHT AND, UH, FOLLOWING ALL, UH, ALL BEST MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT WE'VE PUT INTO PLACE, UH, WITH THEM TO, YOU KNOW, PUT FORTH A GOOD BUSINESS ON THAT MODEL.
SO THE, THE OWNER OF ONE OF THE BOAT COMPANIES RECENTLY JOINED THE YACHT CLUB MM-HMM.
SO I THINK THAT KIND OF TOOK CARE OF IT ITSELF IN SOME WAYS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED THE LONDON BOAT RENTALS TO DO, THEY'VE DONE, UH, THEIR MODEL IS DIFFERENT THAN ANCHORS AWAY.
ANCHORS AWAY IS IN AN AREA OVER BY CONDOMINIUMS. YEAH.
WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE JUST FORCED TO FOLLOW SOME CERTAIN MM-HMM.
WELL, I THINK WE'RE GONNA WANNA MONITOR THAT CAREFULLY BECAUSE YEAH.
UM, THEY'LL BE OPENING A RESTAURANT IN THAT LOWER LEVEL SHORTLY.
AND WE, WE KIND OF WANT TO KEEP A, THAT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING HANDLE ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE SERVING OF ADULT BEVERAGES AND RENTING BOATS.
I AM, I'M VERY INTRIGUED TO SEE HOW THAT GOES.
VERY INTRIGUED TO SEE HOW THAT GOES, BUT IT'S, THERE ARE A FEW BOAT THERE ARE, I, I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS IF I WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND THE BOATING COMMUNITY COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE DRINKING ON BOATS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO HAVE A BEVERAGE ON A BOAT.
IF YOU ARE THE SKIPPER, IF YOU ARE DRIVING DIFFERENT STORY, AND IF THE, IF THE BOAT OWNERS WANT THE CITY TO START MONITORING ALCOHOLIC CONSUMPTION ON BOATS, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
IT'S JUST A DANGEROUS COMBINATION WHEN WE HAVE KIDS JUMPING IN THE WATER.
WHERE, AND THEN INEBRIATED SMALL BOAT OPERATORS.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PART OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
IT'S, SO, IT'S, IT'S ALL WITHIN BALANCE.
UH, IT'S, WE GOTTA SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESS OO OWNERS AND OPERATORS WHILE AT THE SIGN AT THE SAME TIME MAKING SURE, SURE.
THEY'RE DOING THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS IN A SAFE WAY.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE MET AND KIND OF, HEY, SUMMER'S COMING, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING IN A SAFE AND YOU'RE REACHING OUT AND COMMUNICATING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
EVERY SUMMER WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST 3, 3, 4 YEARS SINCE, UH MM-HMM.
I DON'T HAVE, OH, I'LL PROB I WAS, I WAS SAYING EARLIER, UM, THIS IS EITHER GONNA BE MY LAST OR NEXT MONTH IS GONNA BE MY LAST, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO RESIGN WITH THE NEW POSITION.
SO I'M NOT GONNA HAVE THE TIME TO DO THIS, SO I HAVE TO TALK TO THE, I FORGOT, ALWAYS FORGET THAT GUY'S NAME, JONATHAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I JUST TALKED TO JEFF AND JUST LET HIM KNOW.
BUT UM, YEAH, EITHER THIS ONE OR I, THE SCHEDULE IS SO LIGHT OR THE AGENDA IS SO LIGHT, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME AND MAYBE WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOUR SERVICE AND OH YEAH.
UH, AND THEN, THEN I WOULD MAYBE BE INTERIM AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STILL PRESIDE OVER THE FOLLOWING MONTH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK WE'LL YEAH.
WELL I'M EXCITED FOR THE NEW POSITION FOR YOU.
BUT I'M KIND OF BUMMED THAT IT, UH, YEAH.
I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY DOING THIS.
YOU'RE JUST SUCH A MAJOR ASSET TO US AND WITH YOUR BACKGROUND AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND WELL, YEAH.
SO
WELL, I JUST, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO PUT THINGS IN A WAY THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO, THAT WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT'S HOW WE WANTED TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION.
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ALRIGHT.WELL, UH, JUST KIND OF COMMUNICATE WITH ME TO ALAN JUST SO WE YEAH.
UH, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT THINGS INTO PLACE AND SET THINGS UP FROM AGENDA STANDPOINT TO, TO ADDRESS AND GO FROM THERE.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE THIS MONTH'S I WOULD IMAGINE.
AND EVEN IF I STAY ON THE COMMISSION, I PROBABLY WOULD MOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST HAVE, I'LL TELL JEFF AT THE END OF THIS TERM, WHICH IS GRANTS TILL JUNE 30TH ANYWAY.
AND WHETHER I ATTEND THE NOTES.
OR I ATTEND THE MEETING IN JUNE OR NOT.
SO THE OTHER THING IS YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY, WELL, IT'S A FULL COMMISSION NOW.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I'LL PROBABLY JUST DO THAT.
SAY, HEY JEFF, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY AT THE END OF END MEETING JANUARY.
SHOULD WE? NO, NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ADJOURNMENT.
IS ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC? NOBODY IN THE PUBLIC IS HERE, SO, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN MEETING.