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UH, KIMBERLY, WE HERE JAMIE SCHIFFER HERE.
UM, AND THEN NIKKI AMICK HERE.
WE HAVE, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE DON'T NEED QUORUM THOUGH.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ITEMS. WE HAVE.
I'M GONNA BE KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MY COMPUTER AND UP HERE.
UM, THANK YOU ALLALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY FOR OUR FOURTH RETREAT.
I KNOW WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER, UM, BUT, UH, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF SET SOME GROUNDWORK TODAY FOR WORK THAT WE'LL BE DOING, UM, THROUGHOUT THE MORNING.
AND SO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL GO AROUND THE ROOM AND SAY NAMES, PRONOUNS, UM, WHAT AGENCY YOU REPRESENT, OR, UM, WHAT, UM, BOARD SEAT REPRESENTING.
AND THEN THE CONNECTION QUESTION TODAY IS, IF YOU COULD OUTLAW ANY ONE THING, WHAT WOULD IT BE AND WHY? SO WE'LL START, NIKKI, I KNOW YOU'RE NEW.
TANYA, PUT YOU ON THE SPOT,
MY NAME'S NIKKI E UM, MY PRONOUNS ARE, SHE, SHE'S REPRESENTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN THAT HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BUREAU.
UH, I THINK, UH, I GO WITH LANGUAGE DESTROYING OUR HABITAT.
WHO ARE YOU? ARE YOU
I'M A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING, THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING AT YOU LIKE THAT.
UM, I'M THE CHIEF SERVICE OFFICER FOR MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA, LOS ANGELES, SOUTH COUNTY.
UH, MY PRONOUN PRONOUNS, UH, HE, HIM AND DAD ARE PRESENTING YYW SERVICES, WHICH IS, UH, AND WASHINGTON SERVICE, AS WELL AS WOMEN IN TRANSITION BY NONPROFIT.
UH, IF I COULD OUTLAW ONE THING, UM, CARBOHYDRATES, I WOULD SAY IT IS COMPLEX.
PROGRAM DIRECTOR, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR CONNECTIONS FOR WOMEN, UH, EMERGENCY SHELTER, CRISIS HOUSING PROVIDERS, SOUTH LA FOR FAMILIES.
AND MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE AND HER.
AND, UH, IF I COULD OUTLAW ANY ONE THING, THINK WOULD BE FLIES AND BARBECUES.
UM, MR. HIM, HE, UH, WELL, I REPRESENT,
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UH, ITS REALLY HARD TO SAY NOWADAYS.EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY GOT A PIECE OF ME FOUND THIS GROUP INCORPORATED.
I'M CURRENTLY, UH, PRESIDENT OF LONG BEACH HOMELESS COALITION.
I GUESS I COULD SAY I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF CENTURY VILLAGES AND GORILLA WHO, UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE YOU CONTINUOUSLY COLLABORATING WITHIN THE CITY WITH ISSUES RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS.
IF THERE'S ONE THING I CAN OUTLAW IT WOULD PROBABLY BE POVERTY OVERALL.
AND, YOU KNOW, POVERTY CONSISTS OF MANY THINGS.
HOMELESSNESS, UH, NON-EMPLOYMENT.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT CENTURY VILLAGE AND, UM, NOT ALWAYS POPULAR, BUT I WOULD OUTLAW THAT, ESPECIALLY WATCHING ALL THE NEWS AND HAVING A 12-YEAR-OLD IN SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD ALLOW, NOT, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT CERTAINLY A
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE, OF BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO, I HAVEN'T HAD MY COFFEE.
I LEFT IT ON THE COUNTER AT HOME, SO I CAN'T REALLY THINK OF A REALLY GREAT ONE LIKE YOU ALL HAVE, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY MEETING YESTERDAY.
D UM, IF I COULD OUTLAW ONE THING, I GUESS MY SERIOUS ANSWER WOULD BE LIKE, NIMBYISM, BUT LIKE, MY FUN ANSWER WOULD BE THOSE MOTORIZED BIKES THAT BRING ON THE SAND TO THE BIKE TRAIL THAT I WOULD FALL OVER WHEN I'M SKATING TO WORK.
UH, PAUL DUNCAN, HE, HIM, HIS, UH, WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH ON THE SERVICES BUREAU GOT OUTLAW ANY MORE SPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WEAPONS AND MILITARY UNTIL WE, UH, HOUSE PEOPLE IN, UH, THE UNITED STATES.
THINK THAT SHOULD BE PRIORITY.
SO THEN NO, NO SPENDING ON OTHER STUFF THAT WE NEED OUR BOMBS.
UH, JENNIFER SANTANA, MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE HER, HERS I BELIEVE.
UM, I'M WITH HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD OUTLAW WOULD PROBABLY BE PARENTHOOD AND HOW HARD IT IS
MY NAME IS PAM, SHE REPRESENTATIVE.
I'M ALSO HERE AT EDUCATION COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, YOU GUYS ALL HAVE, UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, UM, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO OUTLAW.
I'M THE DAVE DANIEL FOR THE HOME SERVICES BUREAU.
UM, MY FRIEND HAS OUR KEY HIM.
UM, AND IF I COULD OUTLAW ONE THING, UM, RIGHT NOW, SINCE MY 3-YEAR-OLD IS OBSESSED WITH IT, MAYBE SHARK
SLOW DOWN WITH YOUR AGENCY AND THEN WANNA GET RID OF THANK YOU.
UM, I'M DANIEL
UH, IF I'M BEING REALISTIC, I MEAN, I, I THINK A GREAT POLICY WOULD BE TO MAKE CERTAIN INDUSTRIES, UH, NON-PROFIT BY LAW.
UH, HEALTHCARE WOULD BE ONE, UH,
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WEAPONS MANUFACTURING PRISONS.NOBODY SHOULD BE MAKING MONEY OFF THESE DAYS.
IT'S A SORT OF PERVERSE INCENTIVE FOR OUR SOCIETY.
UM, I'M ALEXA, UH, WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES BUREAU AT THE CITY.
UM, GONNA FOLLOW THAT ONE UP WITH SOMETHING REALLY STUPID, BUT NOT HAVING FANS IN DRESSING ROOMS. I'M A SWEATER AND LIKE IN MY CLOTHES, THAT WAS SWEATY AND DISGUSTING.
SO ALSO, YOU KNOW, POVERTY ON THINGS YOU SAID TOO,
OKAY, SO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AGENDA TODAY.
UM, I AM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE DALTON DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION FOR US, A LITTLE, UM, PRESENTATION FOR US ON SOME DATA THAT HE HAS PREPARED.
AND THEN WE WILL, UM, I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE ALL IN ROOM TOGETHER DOING THIS WORK.
UM, AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR GOING FORWARD.
WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK FOR LUNCH, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO, UH, WE'LL HAVE A WORKING LUNCH, AND SO WE'LL DO SOME PLANNING, UM, A LITTLE LATER IN THE MORNING, WE'LL HAVE AN EXERCISE AND BRING UP SOME SMALL GROUPS AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF.
SO BEFORE MS. DALTON, UM, STARTS, I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN, SET THE TONE FOR TODAY A REMINDER OF LIKE, WHY WE'RE HERE AND LIKE WHAT OUR GOALS ARE, UM, WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS WORK.
AND SO, MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE COC OBVIOUSLY IS, UM, A COLLABORATIVE ENTITY TO EMBRACE DIVERSITY AND PRACTICE INNOVATION.
UM, WE'RE COMMUNITY-BASED SYSTEM OF CARE, AND OUR JOB IS TO EFFECTIVELY PLAN, MANAGE AND DELIVER HOMELESS ASSISTANCE AND RESOURCES TO, UM, ALL FOLKS IN LONG BEACH AT RISK OR EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO, UH, PROMOTE SELF ALLIANCE IN HOUSING INSTABILITY.
UM, OUR VISION STATEMENT IN OUR CHARTER AND BYLAWS IS THAT EVERY RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH WILL HAVE ACCESS, UH, TO SAFE, DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INCLUDING MEDICAL SERVICES.
AND OUR GOAL, OBVIOUSLY IS TO ALWAYS HAVE HOMELESSNESS BE RARE AND BRIEF WHEN OCCURRING.
SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE DATA THAT, UH, DELTA WILL PRESENT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR GOALS, EXCUSE ME, HOW FAR WE'VE COME.
UM, TRY TO HAVE THESE STATEMENTS IN YOUR MIND OF HOW DO WE MEET THESE VISIONS? HOW DO WE LIVE OUT THIS MISSION AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING HERE TODAY? AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR TIME TOGETHER WITH Y'ALL ON THE BOARD, RIGHT.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE IT OVER TO YOU.
DALTON, DO YOU WANT THE, I'M ASSUMING THE CORD? SURE, I CAN DO THAT.
I JUST NEED YOU OF CORRECT PRESENTATION.
JEN'S BEING KIND, APPARENTLY I SENT THE WRONG FORMAT BECAUSE I LIKE MY POWERPOINTS BLACK AND WHITE
NO ONE, NO ONE ELSE IS LAUGHING, BUT LIKE THE DATA GUY REALLY LOVES A SUPER BORING PRESENTATION.
ARE YOU SURE THIS IS RIGHT? NO, THAT'S, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, THAT'S LIKE THE PROJECTOR THING.
I'M LIKE, THIS, THIS FEELS VERY
LET'S SEE IF I GET THIS RIGHT.
SO, UM, AS ALEXA POINTED OUT, UM, I HAVE A FEW DATA POINTS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF LIKE
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THE PAST YEAR AND THEN PERHAPS THIS SPURS LIKE SOME DISCUSSION, SOME CONVERSATIONS, SOME IDEAS ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE FOR, UH, THE COC.SO I HAVE A FEW, LIKE SOME DETAILS HERE ON WHAT I'M, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY THESE AREN'T DETAILS.
THIS IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A ROADMAP OF WHAT I'M GONNA BE DISCUSSING TODAY.
UM, TALKING ABOUT THE DEMANDS ON THE SYSTEM.
SO, UM, THERE'S A, A FEW WAYS OF THINKING ABOUT, UM, KIND OF LIKE THE INFLOWS AND OUTFLOWS, UH, THAT WE SEE NOT JUST ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT ON A MONTHLY AND A YEARLY BASIS.
AND A COUPLE POINTS THAT ALWAYS, UM, COME UP ARE WHAT'S LIKE THE DEMAND VERSUS THE SUPPLY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE IN TERMS OF HOMELESS SERVICES.
AND SO, UM, A FEW THINGS, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE DEMANDS ON THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE IN FACT, IDENTIFYING DEMANDS IS RELATIVELY EASY.
WE SEE IT EVERY DAY WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE COME IN AND WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF SUPPLY.
AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER, RIGHT? LIKE, AND SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE SEE WHAT WE LIKE, LET'S IDENTIFY WHAT THE DEMANDS ARE ON THE SYSTEM, AND PERHAPS WE CAN SHIFT GEARS OR PERHAPS WE CAN SHIFT INTO THE RIGHT PLACE IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE DEMANDS WITH THE SUPPLY OF SERVICES.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE UTILIZATION, KIND OF LIKE THE OCCUPANCY RATE, UH, OF CERTAIN PROGRAMS. UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE INDIVIDUALS COMING IN BECAUSE NATURALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SERVICES APPLY TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND, AND THEN I'M GONNA FOLLOW IT UP IN THE LAST LITTLE BIT ABOUT, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROJECT TYPE PERFORMANCE.
OKAY? UM, I SHOULD SAY, UM, PERFORMANCE METRICS BY PROJECT TYPE.
SO LOOKING AT AN AGGREGATE LEVEL, THE POINT OF DATA, UH, AND I REALIZED THAT PERHAPS THIS ISN'T EXACTLY, THIS IS BOTHERING, THANK YOU.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO COVER THIS.
UM, BUT, UM, OFTENTIMES WHEN I'M PRESENTING DATA, I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES THE AUDIENCE EXPECTS ANSWERS THROUGH DATA.
AND I, AS THE DATA ANALYST, I LOVE BEING THE PERSON WHO PROVIDES ANSWERS TO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT I REALLY WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT DATA ALONE.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA PRESENT TO YOU IS WHAT I SEE, I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN LIKE EACH INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM OR HOMELESSNESS PER SE.
I CAN AGGREGATE IT, I CAN ANALYZE IT, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT SAYS, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DATA AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.
AND SO DATA ALONE CAN ONLY REALLY ANSWER HOW MUCH QUESTIONS, LIKE HOW MUCH DO WE SEE? HOW MANY OF THIS GROUP, HOW MANY OF THAT GROUP, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THIS DATA CAN TELL YOU.
WE CAN CONTEXTUALIZE IT AND PUT MORE THINGS TOGETHER, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IN ORDER TO ANSWER THOSE DEEPER QUESTIONS OF WHAT, WHY, AND HOW, UM, WE HAVE TO PUT MORE THINGS TOGETHER THAN JUST WHAT I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING TODAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FROM THE GET GO.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE HELP TO SHAPE THESE STORIES AND SOLUTIONS AROUND THE DATA.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHAT I AM AIMING TO DO TODAY IS PERHAPS TO SPARK A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION USING DATA TO INFORM, BUT NOT RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING.
SO WHEN WE SEE TRENDS, ALL I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IS TO SHOW YOU THOSE TRENDS.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU WITH DATA, LIKE THIS IS THE SOLUTION TO THESE TRENDS.
AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA BE PROVIDING LIKE HIGH LEVEL AGGREGATE DATA, AND SO LIKE BY PROJECT TYPE OR AT THE COC LEVEL ITSELF, HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS US SEE THE FOREST IF WE WANT TO GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS, THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO LIKE DISCUSSIONS.
WE GET INTO QUESTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I CAN TALK TO YOU AS MUCH AS I KNOW ABOUT GETTING INTO THOSE WEEDS, BUT THIS HERE IS SEEING THE FOREST FROM UP TOP.
AND LASTLY, THIS IS WHERE I THINK, UM, WHAT PERHAPS THE, THE, THE BIGGEST LIKE TAKEAWAY PERHAPS, OR LIKE THE BIGGEST DISCUSSION POINT FOR TODAY IS, UM, WHEN DEMAND EXCEEDS SUPPLY, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO, WHERE DO WE PRIORITIZE? AND I, I THINK WE'RE ALL PROBABLY ACCUSTOMED TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ALMOST ALWAYS IN THIS REALM HERE WHERE WE HAVE MORE DEMANDS FOR OUR SERVICES THAN WE'RE ABLE TO SUPPLY.
AND SO THIS IS JUST YET ANOTHER EXERCISE IN BEING CREATIVE OR PERHAPS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, FINDING THE BEST AREA WITH WHICH WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN.
SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN EASILY LOOK AT AND WE CAN DESCRIBE DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM.
SO AT THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER, EACH YEAR WE COLLECT, UM, THE NUMBER OF UNIQUE CLIENT IDENTIFIERS THAT ARE VISITING THE MSC AND ARE ENROLLING OR AT LEAST GETTING SERVICES PROVIDED.
AND I'VE SHOWN A TIME LAPSE HERE, 2022, SO TWO YEARS AGO NOW.
TWO YEARS AGO WE RECORDED 2,700 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS VISITING THE MSC IN 2022.
IN 2023, A MASSIVE JUMP, ABOUT 2000 ADDITIONAL UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS SHOWING UP
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TO THE MSC.WE ONLY HAVE INFORMATION FOR ABOUT A QUARTER OF 2024.
I'VE CUT IT OFF AT THE QUARTER JUST SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME WEIRD APRIL NUMBER, UM, UP HERE.
SO I'VE CUT IT OFF FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF 2024, AND IF WE EXTRAPOLATE THAT INFORMATION, THEN WE GET 56.99 NOW.
SO PART OF WHAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, AND PART OF WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE, AND I'M, I'M WAVING MY HAND A LITTLE BIT FOR A LOT OF WHAT I'M DOING HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN IN TERMS OF I DO ESTIMATE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT JUST BE LIKE HOW I FEEL.
I GO BACK AND I TAKE A LOOK AT THE HISTORY.
THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER RECEIVES ABOUT 30% OF ALL OF ITS TRAFFIC IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
SO IT IS TOP HEAVY, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT GOES INTO ESTIMATING SOME OF THESE NUMBERS WHENEVER THERE IS AN ESTIMATE HERE.
THIS ISN'T JUST LIKE HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, IT'S TAKING ACCOUNT PREVIOUS YEARS AND THEN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND EXTRAPOLATE THAT.
SO FROM THIS CHART ALONE, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN SAY ABOUT WHAT WE CAN EXPECT ON THE DEMANDS OF OUR SYSTEM IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR FOR THE REMAINING THREE QUARTERS OF 2024? WHAT CAN WE SAY? IT'S GONNA BE EVEN BOTH.
I MEAN, IF MY MATH IS RIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT'S A PREDICTION, BUT TRENDS SUGGEST THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
NOW, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO THE MSC, THIS ISN'T BREAKING IT DOWN BY ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS JUST A SHEER RAW NUMBER THAT GOES TO THE MSC.
I'M WILLING TO BET THAT THAT'S SOMEWHAT INDICATIVE OF WHAT THE REST OF YOU ARE SEEING IN OTHER PROGRAMS AS WELL.
THIS IS A MAJOR ACCESS CENTER FOR LONG BEACH.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, RIGHT? AND SO HOPEFULLY THESE, THERE SPURS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS HERE.
IF DEMAND IS GOING UP, WHICH I'M SUGGESTING THAT IT IS, THE NEXT QUESTIONS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE ASKING ARE FROM WHERE WHOM, AND THEN WHY.
I'M ALREADY GONNA TELL YOU THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS.
OKAY? THIS REQUIRES A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN JUST WHAT WE HAVE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
THIS IS A MUCH BIGGER THING, AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL HAVE A LOT MORE INSIDER INFORMATION AS TO WHY THIS IS HAPPENING THAN I DO NOW.
I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SIMPLE ANSWERS TO THAT, RIGHT? LIKE HOUSING COSTS ARE UP IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN ANSWER WITH THE DATA THAT I HAVE AVAILABLE TO ME.
SO THAT'S WHERE MORE DISCUSSION AND MORE, UM, LIKE INSIDER KNOWLEDGE MAKES SENSE.
SO ACTUALLY I SHOULD STOP ANY QUESTIONS ON LIKE THIS.
YEAH, WE HAVE 20 19, 20 19 DATA.
I'LL SAY THAT I'M NOT A, SO IN MOST OF MY INFORMATION, UM, I'M GENERALLY NOT GONNA GO FURTHER BACK THAN 2020.
REASON BEING IS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY CHANGED OUR HMIS PLATFORM.
SO WE, WE CHANGED PROVIDERS AND SO WHAT WE HAD TO DO IS WE HAD TO TAKE A LOT LIKE LUMPS OF DATA FROM THE SWITCH AND SOME INFORMATION GOT MUDDIED IN THAT TRANSFER.
AND SO I'M NOT, I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT TAKING A LONGER LIKE LOOK BACK DOES HELP TO INFORM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ESTIMATE WHAT'S GOING FORWARD.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE, HOWEVER, THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DATA FROM LIKE 20 19, 20 18, 20 17.
THAT'S, UM, I DON'T HAVE A HIGH FIDELITY IN THAT DATA.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT TRANSFER FORM FROM ONE PLATFORM TO THE OTHER.
BUT I, I, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LONGER LOOK BACK PERIOD THAN THAT.
SO, UM, FIRST PART HERE IS I'M GONNA END UP TAKING A LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS.
SO THAT NUMBER THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU, THAT 5,600, LIKE THAT LARGE NUMBER, UM, THAT WE'RE SHOWING, UM, LET'S BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
LET'S SEE WHAT PROPORTION OF INDIVIDUALS ARE COMING IN, UM, THAT MIGHT BE INFLUENCING THAT NUMBER.
OKAY? UM, AND ACTUALLY AS THE POPULATION OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS CONTINUES TO CHANGE, THE SERVICE IS MUCH CHANGE TO MEET THAT DEMAND AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE ANOTHER KIND OF QUESTION, UH, CERTAIN PROGRAMS THAT ARE FIT FOR DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS, OKAY? SO IT'S DOES NOT SHOW UP THAT WELL ON THIS PROJECTOR, BUT THAT'S FINE.
UM, DIFFERENTIATING TRENDS FROM ANOMALIES IS HARD.
SO WHY DO I PUT THAT IN HERE? AND AGAIN, I'M TAKING THIS 20 22, 20 23 AND 2024 LIKE THIS COMPARISON ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT YEARS.
AND UM, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE BREAKDOWN OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING IN VERSUS FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING IN BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE LOOKED AT INFORMATION COMING FROM THIS YEAR.
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ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH FAMILIES.WHY? BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023 WAS RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT.
AND IF WE TOOK THAT AS A TREND THAT WAS GOING TO CONTINUE IN 2024, WE WERE PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE AND WE PROBABLY NEEDED TO SHIFT QUITE A FEW RESOURCES FROM WHAT WE HAD TOWARDS INDIVIDUALS, TOWARDS FAMILIES, RIGHT? THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IF THIS TREND WAS GOING TO CONTINUE.
AND GUESS WHAT? IT ENDED UP BEING SOMEWHAT ANOMALOUS OR AT LEAST IN THE VERY SHORT TERM FROM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, BECAUSE 2024 SEEMS TO BE REVERTING BACK TO WHAT WE SAW IN 2022.
AND SO THIS IS LUTHER, TO YOUR POINT, IF WE HAD BETTER FIDELITY IN PRIOR YEAR DATA, WE'D BE ABLE TO PUT A LOT OF STAKE IN LIKE, THIS IS WHAT THE AVERAGES OVER THIS TIME, OR THIS IS WHAT, LIKE THESE PERCENTAGES, LIKE 16% OF FAMILIES, THIS IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN.
16% OF THOSE PEOPLE COMING IN ARE FAMILIES OR LIKE GROUPS COMING IN.
THOSE ARE FAMILIES, RIGHT? UM, I DID QUARTER ONE ESTIMATES AS WELL JUST TO SEE IF THAT WAS KIND OF A, A, YOU KNOW, A SEASONALITY THING TO IT AND IT KIND OF TRACKS THE SAME WAY.
BUT THE POINT HERE IS THIS, THAT IF I HAD GREATER FIDELITY IN THE DATA PRIOR TO THIS, WE COULD ESTABLISH BETTER BASELINES AND THEN WE COULD SEE WELL, OH MAN, THIS IS REALLY WEIRD, RIGHT? AND THEN THIS PERHAPS IS A REVERSION TO THE ME BUT THIS IS ALL TO SAY THAT IF SOMEONE WAS GONNA ASK ME ABOUT TRENDS IN THE DATA, LIKE WHAT DO YOU SEE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING UP OR DOWN? AND IT'S KIND OF HARD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE SUPER LONG TIMELINES TO WORK WITH.
OKAY? SO AGAIN, KEEPING THAT IN MIND, THIS IS USEFUL INFORMATION TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF FAMILIES.
LIKE DO WE THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES FOR THE FAMILIES COMING IN? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SUPPLY ROUGHLY EIGHT, ROUGHLY 20% OF THE NEW INDIVIDUALS COMING INTO LONG BEACH OR THE NEW, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BECOMING HOMELESS AND THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR ACCESS CENTERS.
DO WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SUPPLY 20% OF THOSE RESOURCES TOWARDS FAMILIES OR WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? RIGHT? AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UM, FAMILIES GO HERE AND THERE.
UM, BUT THIS IS STILL INTERESTING TO NOTE, RIGHT? PERHAPS THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE IN ORDER QUESTION.
SO FAR CHRONICITY OF PROJECT START.
SO THIS WAS ANOTHER THING, UM, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING, UM, WE'RE CURIOUS ABOUT AND SOMETHING WE'RE INTERESTED IN BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS HAVE DIFFERENT SERVICE NEEDS THAN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT INDIVIDUALS WHO NEWLY BECOME HOMELESS ARE INTRINSICALLY, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY INTRINSICALLY DIFFERENT, BUT THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT SERVICE LEVELS THAN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.
AND SO TAKING A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE OVER TIME AND LOOKING AT WHO'S COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM AND TO WHAT EXTENT ARE THEY IDENTIFIED AS CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AT THE START OF THEIR PROJECT, GENERALLY WE SEE WHAT LOOKS TO BE A REDUCTION IN THAT NUMBER, WHICH PERHAPS THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT IS THIS? WE CAN WEAVE A STORY ABOUT THIS.
WE CAN ACTUALLY WEAVE SEVERAL STORIES ABOUT THIS.
ARE WE DOING A BETTER JOB OF HOUSING CHRONICALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS? ARE WE DIVERTING PEOPLE AWAY FROM OUR SYSTEM WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS? THEREFORE WE DON'T SEE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THEM ANYMORE? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WHAT WE DO SEE IS A RELATIVE REDUCTION, AT LEAST AT THE AGGREGATE LEVEL, WHEN WE BREAK IT DOWN BY THE PROJECT TYPES THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE IN THIS ROOM, WE SEE DIFFERENCES ACROSS THOSE, ACROSS THOSE PROJECT TYPES.
THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED, RIGHT? NATURALLY THESE PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT RATES AT WHICH THEY ACCEPT PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.
BUT IN TERMS OF THIS OVERALL TREND OF GOING DOWN, WHAT APPEARS TO BE GOING DOWN, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS FROM A PROJECT TYPE LEVEL, RIGHT? IT DOES SEEM TO OSCILLATE A LITTLE BIT SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WE SEE A BIT OF A BUMP IN 2023.
SOME OF THE ODOR PROGRAMS EXPERIENCE.
AND SO THIS IS ALL TO SAY THAT FINDING NUMBERS AT AN AGGREGATE LEVEL, RIGHT? THAT'S HELPFUL FOR LOOKING AT THE OVERALL FOREST.
SOMETIMES IT, IT, IT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND, WELL, RAPID REHOUSING IS DOING DIFFERENTLY THAN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
IT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS OVERALL TREND IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE PERHAPS OF THE TRENDS THAT WE SEE AT THE LOWER LEVELS OF PROJECT TYPES.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO FAR? ARE THESE NUMBERS TO BE EXPECTED? IS IT, IS ANYBODY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY LIKE, THIS DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT? SO I, I, I ASK THAT BECAUSE I LOOK AT DATA AND I, I'LL SAY THIS, WHEN I, WHEN I SEE THESE OVERALL TRENDS AND THESE
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OVERALL NUMBERS LIKE THIS, I'M LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AT THIS TOP LEVEL, BUT INFORMATION IS ONLY AS, I CAN ONLY PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION THAT'S AS GOOD AS INFORMATION THAT COMES IN, RIGHT? AND SO USER INPUT IS SUPER IMPORTANT AND SO I NEED TO KNOW IF, IF ANY OF THESE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE SUPER WEIRD OR SUPER OFF TO YOU, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW THAT WE NEED BETTER TRAINING FOR LIKE USER INPUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.SO IF SOMETHING REALLY LOOKS OFF OR YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THAT AND YOU'RE SAYING, MM-HMM, THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE SUPER HIGH FIDELITY IN YEAR BEFORE THIS.
I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO HAVE FIDELITY IN THESE NUMBERS.
AND SO IF THAT DOESN'T, IF IT DOESN'T STRIKE YOU AS ACCURATE, LET ME KNOW SO THAT I CAN INVESTIGATE THAT.
OKAY? SO WITH THAT IN MIND, HANDS RAISED FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.
I SHOULDN'T SAY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
NONE OF, NONE OF THIS IS, NONE OF THESE ARE GREAT, RIGHT? BUT LIKE, IF THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO YOU, OKAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, FEEL FREE TO QUESTION FOR THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM FOR 2023, WHAT DO WE ASSUME THAT FOR THE TRADITIONAL HOUSING THAT THE OTHER NUMBERS WHERE WE HAVE THE RAPID HOUSING AND THE OTHER, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MORE INDICATIVE OF UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CAUSATION OF THESE, THAT BIG RAISE THAT WE HAVE THERE.
I'M ASSUMING IF WE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FOLKS THAT MOST LIKELY THESE FOLKS USED RAPIDLY HOUSING, NOT TRADITIONAL HOUSING.
IT'S PRETTY HARD GETTING CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE INTO TRADITIONAL HOUSING JUST SEEMS OH, ARE YOU, I CAN, THIS SPECIFICALLY REFERS TO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
SORRY, I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T, IF I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR.
YEAH, I, I, I'M A BUREAUCRAT AND SO I I LOVE ACRONYMS AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? I'M FULLY INVESTED IN GOVERNMENT ACRONYMS NOW, BUT THAT'S TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND ALMOST PURELY DRIVEN BY GRANT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO NO, IT MAKES SENSE THAT, THAT IF IT'S THE OTHER CASE AROUND IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
AND, AND THE, UH, THIS IS WHERE IT HELPS THAT LONGITUDINAL MORE YEARS.
I MEAN, JUST ON ANECDOTAL, MY EXPERIENCE, I WOULD THINK, OH, YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS ALWAYS GONNA BE THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVE A FIXED AMOUNT OF IT.
BUT WE DID HAVE PROJECT ROOM KEY.
WE HAD, WE WENT INTO THESE, YOU KNOW, HUSTLING SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES THAN WE NORMALLY HAVE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT HAPPENED IN 2023.
I'M, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHEN DID ALL THAT COME TOGETHER? 21? YEAH, THAT WAS 2021
YEAH, SO I'M GUESSING THEN WE HAD A BIG SPIKE 'CAUSE WE WERE GETTING A LOT MORE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET THAN EVER BEFORE, BEFORE.
UM, BUT SO I I I WOULD ONLY THINK THAT MAYBE, UH, YEAH IT WENT BACK TO NORMAL THAT WE HAD SOME EXTRA OPPORTUNITIES THAT YEAR.
IT MUST BE, BUT WHAT ARE THOSE ARE? MAYBE PAUL KNOWS, I DON'T KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG DALTON, BUT PROJECT KEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE SHOWING UP IN THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
THERE'S A SUBSET, AH, THAT GOES BELOW THAT.
SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW UP IN THAT, RIGHT? SO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN INDICTED BY PROJECT ROOM KEY PROJECT ROOM, KEY TYPE PROJECT.
SO MAYBE THERE THE YEAR WE HAVE UNDER CAPACITY AND FOR SOME REASON WE MATCH OUR CAPACITY.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
LIKE, SO I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT OCCUPANCY AND CAPACITY, UM, IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO YEAH, PERHAPS THAT'S PLAYING A ROLE HERE.
UH, IN TERMS OF LIKE, ARE WE FILLING UP THESE ROOMS OR NOT? WHAT I MENTION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, I SEE WHAT'S IN WHAT'S IN THE NEGATIVE SPACE, RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THAT'S A PERCENTAGE OF CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, THEN THAT MEANS 75% ARE NOT CHRONICALLY, WHICH MEANS NEWLY HOMELESS.
SO ONE WAY TO INTERPRET THEIR, ONE STORY YOU MIGHT WEAVE RIGHT, IS LIKE, OH, WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS MAYBE AND WHICH FITS WITH WHAT I'M SEEING WHERE I'M AT.
SO THIS DOES THAT, YOUR POINT DOVETAILS PERHAPS QUITE NICELY WITH THIS STORY HERE.
YEAH, THIS NUMBER'S GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY.
THIS ISN'T A GROWING NUMBER OF CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.
THIS IS A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE BECOMING NEWLY HOMELESS.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO VISITED THE MULTI SERVICE CENTER FOR THE FIRST TIME, EVEN IF IT WAS, IF THEY'VE COME IN ANOTHER YEAR? NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT THESE PEOPLE, THIS NUMBER IS ALSO POTENTIALLY REPRESENTED HERE.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF I WAS GONNA SAY JOHN'S STATEMENTS, THAT DOESN'T WORK.
UM, JOHN SMITH, I DUNNO WHY JOHN JOHN SMITH SHOWS UP, IT'S WEIRD, RIGHT? JOHN SMITH SHOWS UP IN 2022, HE'S COUNTED IN 2,700, RIGHT? BUT IF JANUARY 1ST, 2023, JOHN SMITH SHOWS UP
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AGAIN, HE'S COUNTED IN THIS 46 93.WHEN I SAY UNIQUE, I MEAN FOR THAT YEAR SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOUBLE, LIKE IF JOHN SMITH SHOWS UP FIVE TIMES, HE'S NOT SHOWING UP AS FIVE NUMBERS IN THIS NUMBER HERE.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT WITH UNIQUE MEANS.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION.
BUT, AND THEN YOUR STORY ALSO MAKES SENSE.
THIS NUMBER IS GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY OVER TIME.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS NUMBER, WE'RE SAYING, ALRIGHT, OUR CHRONICALLY HOMELESS NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN AS A PERCENTAGE, BUT THAT'S PERHAPS JUST BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS IN GENERAL ARE GETTING LARGER.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SOMETIMES TALK ABOUT HOW THEY DON'T WANT HOUSE A, YOU GIVE 'EM OUT, THEY DON'T WANT IT, THEY WANT TO STAY AT, YOU KNOW, AND WE KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT.
WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THOSE, IMAGINE IF WE HOUSED ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE FIRST WHO ACTUALLY WANT HAVE, AND WE GOT IT DOWN TO THIS TINY GROUP OF A COUPLE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES, LIKE, OH, I LIKE IT PAPER.
THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD, WOULDN'T IT? AND THEN THAT NUMBER OF CORRECTLY ILLNESS WOULD GO UP, IT WOULD GO UP TO LIKE 98%, YOU KNOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW, CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT.
TOLD THE OTHER SLIDE YOU HAD ABOUT THE, THE VISITS TO THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER.
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE, UM, I, I PARTICIPATED IN THE POINT OF TIME COUNT AND MY TERRITORY WAS THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER AND WE DID THE TED, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE DID THE INTERVIEWS WITH, WITH ALL TED.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS REALLY KIND OF ASTOUNDING BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE.
BACK WHEN I WAS, WE WERE DOING THE, THE SURVEY, I WOULD SAY 30% WERE NEW TO LONG BEACH.
THEY JUST CAME OVER THE BORDER OR THEY GOT BUS IN AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY KNEW THAT LONG BEACH HAD A GREAT RESOURCE CENTER.
SO THEY WERE ALL THERE AND IT WAS LIKE DAY THREE FOR THEM OR DAY FOUR FOR THEM.
BUT THEY WERE THERE IN LINE WAITING.
AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THOSE OF THE WHO HOMELESS THAT ARE KIND, BUT THEY'RE NOT CHRONIC BECAUSE THEY JUST CAME OVER.
SO THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING KIND OF FACTOR THAT WE REALIZED LIKE, OH, THIS IS A REALLY A NEW POPULATION COMING INTO SEEKING SERVICE HERE.
SO THAT WAS JUST VERY, VERY INTERESTING.
DID THEY SAY WHERE THEY WERE BUS FROM? THEY CAME FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.
CENTRAL AMERICA AND THEY DIDN'T SPEAK ANY ENGLISH, SO THEY HAD TO FIND SOMEBODY AND WHY THAT CAN TRANSLATE.
SO WE COULD DO THE THE SURVEYS.
I THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA SAY BELLFLOWER
YEAH, I MEAN WE COULD ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THAT.
THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING UP IS WE ARE SEEING MORE PEOPLE FROM OTHER PARTS OF LA COUNTY IS WHERE THEY BECAME HOMELESS AS WELL AS ORANGE COUNTY.
THE LARGE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, 90% ARE STILL BECOMING HOMELESS WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
BUT WE ARE SEEING MORE MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE REGION AT LEAST IN FAVOR.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY PAUL'S POINT, WHICH IS I AM, UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT GONNA BE SHARING WITH YOU LIKE POINT IN TIME DATA TODAY.
UM, NEXT BOARD MEETING, THE PRESS RELEASE FOR THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS GOING TO BE ON MAY 8TH.
AND SO I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
SO I'M ATTEMPTING TO CONTEXTUALIZE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WITH HMIS DATA.
I WILL SAY THE POINT IN TIME COUNT DOES REFLECT OUR HMIS DATA, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD SIGNAL TO ME THAT THE QUALITY OF INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING IN OUR HMIS REFLECTS WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO TO THE POINT THAT THAT WE ARE MAKING BEFORE WE HAVE A REALLY RICH, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC SURVEY, WHEN WE DO THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
AND SO WE ASK A TON OF QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET IN HIS AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU.
AND PAUL DID ALREADY MENTION THAT LIKE YES WE ARE SEEING SOME TRENDS WITH MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF LONG BEACH, UM, AND AND COMING HERE TO SEEK SERVICES.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS STUFF.
SO, UM, BUT I'M SORRY I WON'T BE SHARING LIKE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THEMSELVES.
I CAN TALK ABOUT TRENDS, PERHAPS I CAN SPEAK IN REALLY VAGUE TERMS. YEAH.
UM, QUICK QUESTION ABOUT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
PAUL, DID YOU SAY MOST OF THAT'S DRIVEN BY GPD? CORRECT.
THAT'S A LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR PORTFOLIO.
THERE'S A FEW DV PROJECTS IN THERE, BUT OUTSIDE OF VETERAN AND DV PROJECTS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER TRANSITIONAL YEAH, JUST CURIOUS.
I MEAN I THINK WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO, BUT UM, LIKE EARLY PANDEMIC DAYS WE SAW DRAMATIC DROPS IN OUR GPD PROGRAMS 'CAUSE SSBF WAS PUTTING EVERYONE IN HEALTH.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT PROBABLY STABILIZED AFTER THE STAFFORD ACT, THAT LIKE GOAL THAT KIND OF CHANGED.
SO THOSE NUMBERS KIND OF NOT KIND OF MAKE SENSE, BUT ALEXA, YEAH, I AM LOOKING AT THE PSH MAKE FOUR AND THERE, OR I'M SORRY, MAKE THREE AND SEE THERE'S A BIG REDUCTION IN CHRONIC HOMELESS SMOKE IN PSH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN.
I WAS NEW TO THE CITY, BUT THAT IS HOPEFULLY GOING ON UP AND DOWN, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE IT POTENTIALLY IS AND WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT MATCHING FOLKS TO APPROPRIATE RESOURCES.
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I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS DUE TO MAYBE, I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW EITHER, BUT DUE TO LIKE E HBS, JUST LIKE BIG PEOPLE THESE STUFF AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG NUMBER OF OUR RESOURCES OR I DUNNO, JUST A THOUGHT OR SOMETHING POINT OUT HERE.ANYBODY HAVE LIKE ANECDOTE? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY LIKE SOME ANECDOTAL INFORMATION TO SUGGEST LIKE STORIES AS TO LIKE WHY MIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.
GO ON THE AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, IN A NORMAL TIME, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESS AND OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE THAT ALMOST ALL UNITS THAT ARE PSH UNITS ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WITH EHV, IT KIND OF LIKE THE LIST WAS MOVING SO QUICKLY THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN A LITTLE MORE OF THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THAT I GUESS PROBABLY A BIT OF A CONCERN FOR ALSO LIKE DATA QUALITY AS FAR AS LIKE ACTUAL CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
YEAH, SO AS FAMILIAR AS I AM WITH THE, LIKE THE MATCHING PROCESS THAT WE USE FOR COORDINATED ENTRY, THIS NUMBER ACTUALLY SEEMS REALLY LOW TO ME THAT THE, LIKE THIS NUMBER I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED TO BE WELL ABOVE 50%.
UH, AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT IS A QUESTION MARK FOR E AS PAUL POINTED OUT, PERHAPS THE DATA QUALITY THAT'S GOING IN AS SOMEBODY'S GETTING ASSESSED, ARE WE PUTTING THE CORRECT DATE OF HOMELESSNESS DOWN FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL? ARE WE LISTING THE CORRECT NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE? UM, YEAH.
SO THIS LIKE REGARDLESS OF THE TREND THAT WE SEE, THE OVERALL NUMBER PERHAPS COULD ALSO SIGNIFY SOMETHING TO US, RIGHT? THAT, THAT NUMBER TO ME LOOKS A LITTLE LOW.
ALRIGHT, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME WE'LL MOVE ON.
UM, SO MORE DEMOGRAPHICS HERE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT LIKE OUR GENDER BREAKDOWN, LIKE THE VETERAN STATUS.
SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS AGAIN, JUST A COMPARISON BETWEEN 2023 GOING ACROSS HERE.
SO THESE NUMBERS HERE REPRESENT THE YEAR OF 2023, AND THESE NUMBERS HERE REPRESENT QUARTER ONE OF 2024.
AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE GENDER BREAKDOWN DOES NOT SHIFT A WHOLE LOT.
UM, THIS IS NOT, UM, SUPER SURPRISING.
UM, AND IN FACT, UM, YES, IF I'M GONNA SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POINT TIME COUNT, THAT'S RELATIVELY WHAT WE SEE AS WELL.
UM, UH, IN TERMS OF VETERAN STATUS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A REDUCTION HERE.
UM, BUT I I I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S PERHAPS, UH, AN ARTIFACT OF THE FACT THAT IT'S, UM, EARLY IN 2024.
UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL, UH, OUR OVERALL NUMBERS.
UH, HERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT SHIFTING HERE.
SO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT WE SAW IN NEWLY HOMELESS LAST YEAR IN THE COUNT AND YEAH, SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT POTENTIALLY IS A TREND THAT COULD BE HAPPENING OR JUST NOT.
SO THERE WAS A, UM, LAST YEAR, UM, I DID A SPECIFIC ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, ON THE POINT IN TIME DOWN IN 2023, WHICH IDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE, UM, NEWLY HOMELESS, NOT JUST LIKE FIRST TIME AND LESS THAN ONE YEAR.
SO I CONSIDERED THEM TO BE NEWLY HOMELESS.
AND WHEN WE DID LIKE GENDER AND RACIAL BREAKDOWNS, UM, OF THAT NEW CATEGORY, THEY WERE PREDOMINANTLY FEMALE AND PREDOMINANTLY LATINA.
AND SO TAKING A LOOK AT THE BROADER PICTURE, LOOKING AT, UM, THE UNITED STATES, IN FACT, LIKE LOOKING AT, UH, THE COUNTRY LEVEL THAT ACTUALLY TRACKED, UM, WITH THE TRENDS THAT WE WERE SEEING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.
AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT PERKED OUR ATTENTION.
WE THOUGHT, WELL, THIS MIGHT BE A TREND THAT WE WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
2024 POINT IN TIME COUNT DID NOT HAVE THE SAME RESULT.
WE DID NOT, THAT TREND DID NOT CONTINUE.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, WELL THIS IS AGE, I'LL GET TO RACE IN JUST A SECOND, BUT, UH, AND I'LL, I'LL CONTINUE THAT STORY IN JUST A SECOND.
UM, I DIDN'T PUT PERCENTAGES UP HERE JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, THE SHIFTS IN PERCENTAGES ARE ACTUALLY LESS, UM, LESS IMPORTANT.
UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, UH, SORRY, A SHIFT IN AGE, THE SAME THINK YOU'RE ACCIDENTALLY DUPLICATED.
WHY ARE THEY THE SAME? YEAH, I'M, I'M GONNA BLAME THE PERSON WHO PUT THIS, THIS THIS DIFFERENT, UH, THING HERE.
MY BLACK AND WHITE SLIDES WERE CORRECT
SO, UH, ACTUALLY, SO WHAT I'LL, WHAT I'LL SAY HERE IS THAT THERE AREN'T TOO MANY SHIFTS IN TERMS OF LIKE THE BARS HERE.
SO IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, 2023 AND QUARTER ONE OF 2024, THOSE BARS DID NOT SHIFT A WHOLE LOT.
WHAT YOU DID SEE WAS A REDUCTION IN THESE YOUNG GROUPS HERE FROM ONE, FROM 2023 TO 2024, THESE BARS REDUCED AND GENERALLY THERE WAS A SHIFT TO THE RIGHT, MEANING OUR HOMELESS POPULATION WAS, IS GETTING OLDER.
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I GO, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS THE LAST TIME AROUND LAST YEAR, YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT THIS GROUP OR THAT THERE IS, THERE IS LIKE A WAVE OF, OF A SILVER TSUNAMI.IF I'M, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THAT THIS GROUP IS GONNA CONTINUE TO GET OLDER AND OLDER.
IN LOOKING AT AGE COHORTS IN OUR HMIS SYSTEM, WE DO SEE A LARGE PROPORTION OF INDIVIDUAL.
LIKE IT IS NOT JUST, THIS ISN'T A NATURAL BELL CURVE THAT WE SEE THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE AND MAINTAIN ITSELF.
THERE IS A COHORT OF INDIVIDUALS, MEANING THERE IS AN AGE GROUP HERE THAT IS JUST OVERREPRESENTED IN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S GOING TO START, I SHOULD DO IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
IT'S GOING TO START SHIFTING TO THE RIGHT, MEANING THIS GROUP IS LIKE OUR AVERAGE AGE IS GONNA GET OLDER AND OLDER AND OLDER AS TIME MOVES ON.
SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SERVICES, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHICH PROGRAMS WE NEED TO MAINTAIN AND EXPAND IN THE FUTURE.
DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR ARE WE HOUSING SENIORS AND THEN MORE SENIORS ARE COMING INTO HOMELESSNESS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
LIKE THAT, THAT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO DO SEPARATELY TO SEE.
UM, I, SO I THINK WE HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF TURNOVER IN TERMS OF WHO GETS HOUSED BY AGE GROUP THAT LIKE THAT IS RELATIVELY REPRESENTED HERE.
I WILL SAY THAT BASED ON OUR PRIORITIZATION SCHEME, WE END UP HOUSING A LARGER PROPORTION OF OLDER FOLKS, WHICH LIKE, IF THIS CONTINUES TO GET OLDER, THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT DOING IT ENOUGH AND THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE BECOMING HOMELESS AT THAT EIGHT GROUP.
LIKE AGAIN, I CAN'T PROVE THAT, I CAN'T EVIDENCE THAT WITH THIS, BUT I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THEORY BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
YEAH, ONE OF THE LEADING HOMELESSNESS STENOGRAPHERS, UH, DR.
COLANE HAS BEEN TRACKING THIS FOR DECADES AND BASICALLY WHAT HE KIND OF IDENTIFIES AND HYPOTHESIZES IS THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY COHORTS WHERE YOU SEE BUBBLES AS WELL AS DROPS.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY RELATED TO LIKE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AS PEOPLE ARE BECOMING ADULTS.
SO THOSE TRANSITIONAL AGE, YOU, IF THEY STRUGGLE TO GET INTO, YOU KNOW, WORK THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO AFFORD THE COST OF LIVING AT THAT AGE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT STRUGGLE CONTINUE ON THROUGHOUT THE LIFESPAN.
WE HAVE THIS ONE WEIRD COHORT THAT IS LIKE THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE DROP OFF A CLIFF FOR LIKE A THREE YEAR PERIOD THAT KIND OF HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH WHERE, AND IT HAS BEEN MOVING THROUGH THE SYSTEM OVER TIME.
SEE, SO THERE'S LIKE THIS THREE YEAR, IT'S LIKE IN THEIR FIFTIES NOW.
YEAH, THEY'RE IN THEIR EARLY FIFTIES NOW AND LIKE IT'S JUST A DROP OFF FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD WHERE THEY'RE LIKE HALF AS LIKELY TO BE HOMELESS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AS THE PEOPLE IN THE AGES OF THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF THEM.
IT'S, SO WHAT PAUL WAS SUGGESTING IS THAT THERE ARE HISTORICAL EVENTS THAT HAPPEN AND OCCUR.
WELL, UH, IT, THERE WAS SPECIFICALLY LIKE AN EMPLOYMENT, LIKE I THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS PERHAPS LIKE A DOWNTURN IN EMPLOYMENT, A VERY SHARP DOWNTURN IN EMPLOYMENT IN A SPECIFIC YEAR WHEN THIS COHORT LIKE CAME OF WORKING AGE, RIGHT? SO LIKE THEY TURNED 18 OR THEY TURNED 24, LIKE THEY WERE IN THIS, LIKE THESE AGE CATEGORIES WHEN THIS EMPLOYMENT LIKE DIP OCCURRED AND THAT HAS LIKE SET THEM UP POORLY FOR LIKE THE REST OF THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T BUILD A RESUME, YADA YADA, RIGHT? LIKE IN ESSENCE, LIKE THERE WAS A SNOWBALLING EFFECT WHERE IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WAS THINKING, THAT THAT WAS THE GROUP THAT DIDN'T FALL HOMELESSNESS.
OH, THE, YEAH, THE GROUP THAT DIDN'T FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS, THE HYPOTHESIS AND WE GOT TO GO BACK AND TRACK IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS AN AMAZING LIKE ECONOMIC BOOM AT THAT TIME.
SO, SO IT WORKS, IT WORKS BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? LIKE WHEN THERE'S AN ECONOMIC BOOM, YOU SEE A DIP IN THAT AGE COHORT WHEN THERE'S AN ECONOMIC DEPRESSION, THEN THERE'S A GROWTH IN THE POPULATION IN THAT SPECIFIC COHORT THAT BECOMES HOMELESS.
I THINK THERE'S A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT THAT WAS JUST A FEW YEARS BACK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY POINT TO THAT MIGHT INDICATE A SIMILAR LIKE COHORT.
SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANNA KEEP IN MIND SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE SEEING INTERESTING TRENDS WITH OUR YOUTH GOING DOWN.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THAT GOING TO STAY? IS THAT GOING TO LAST? ARE WE GOING TO SEE A BUMP AT ANY POINT? JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
UH, ONE PUT THE, I DON'T KNOW WHY I KEEP GOING BACK.
I'M SORRY, THIS IS LIKE INACCURATE DATA.
SO LIKE I KIND OF LIKE, I KIND OF WANNA GO OUT OF IT.
THEY'RE CONSIDERED MILLENNIALS, RIGHT? IS THAT THE TERM FOR THIS? I'M HERE AND I'M A MILLENNIAL.
UH, ZOOMERS WOULD BE LIKE 25 TO 30, LIKE IN THIS
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RANGE.MILLENNIALS START AT LIKE, MILLENNIALS WOULD START AT LIKE 30, 32.
OLDER MILLENNIALS WOULD BE LIKE 42, 43.
THOSE WERE THE OLDEST MILLENNIALS START 19 91, 96.
YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT MILLENNIALS,
YEAH, I MEAN, SO, SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR AS ANECDOTAL AS IT IS TO SAY LIKE, OH, MILLENNIALS ARE LIKE THIS AND LIKE GEN Z IS LIKE THAT.
LIKE THERE ARE REASONS WHY LIKE COHORTS LIKE THAT BEHAVE THE WAY THEY DO AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THESE LARGE ECONOMIC TRENDS OR IN PART BECAUSE OF LARGE ECONOMIC AND GEOPOLITICAL EVENTS THAT MAY SHAPE LIKE HOW THEY ACT, HOW THEY FEEL, HOW THEY DO THINGS.
SO YEAH, THERE, THERE IS SOME REASON TO THINK ABOUT THAT CRASH ECONOMIC STRIFE THAT KIND OF ALIGNS WITH THAT 25 TO 34-YEAR-OLD GROUP AND THEN OF AGE.
AND THEN ONE THING I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF LIKE THE GENERAL POPULATION, BUT IN THE, IN THE VETERAN WORLD, WE ARE DEFINITELY SEEING A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN OLDER ADULTS, 62 PLUS BECOMING NEWLY HOMELESS.
UM, LIKE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST IN OUR GLOBAL, IN OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND WHEN TALKING TO OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS, THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMEWHAT REFLECTIVE TOO IN NON
COST OF HOUSING SPECIFICALLY COMPARED WITH LIKE FIXED INCOME, RIGHT? SO LIKE THAT, THAT HAS NOT KEPT PACE, LIKE SALARIED POSITIONS HAVE ALSO NOT KEPT PACE WITH HOUSING COSTS, BUT AT A CLOSER RATE PERHAPS THAN LIKE FIXED INCOME.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT SORT OF INCOME.
SO YEAH, I I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND INCREASED MEDICAL COSTS YEAH.
OF COVID BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE OF FEDERAL CARE PROVIDERS, THEM PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OFF THEIR MEDICAL, SO THEN WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED TO RECOVER, NOW THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, EXACERBATED HEALTH CONDITIONS,
SO NOW THEY'RE AT THE MORE EXTREME LEVEL OF THE MEDICAL CARE.
SO NOW THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE, THOSE EXPENSIVE TREATMENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY CHOOSE MEDICINE OVER RENT SUPPLIES, RIGHT? SO THEY TAKE MEDICINE OR TREATMENT AND THEREFORE THEY'RE HIGH ACUITY DEBT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH OF, AND AND THAT'S WHY THEY FALL OUT QUICKER BECAUSE THEY CANNOT RECOVER LIKE 20 VERSUS ALY HOMELESS WINTER 60 THAT THAT DEBT CUSHION YOU AND THEN THEY'RE ON THE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE BIG DIRT RED RIBBON CUTTINGS FOR SENIOR FACILITIES NOW BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT IN 2030 EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THOSE FACILITIES.
AND SO THE LABOR HAS TO PICK UP NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EXPERIENCE STAFF MEMBERS IN THOSE DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THERE'S STAFFING.
SO THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT STAFFING RIGHT NOW IN THOSE SENIOR FACILITIES, GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
UM, LAST ONE, AND I'M A LITTLE BIT SAD ANYBODY KNOWS THE COLOR SCHEME HERE.
THE LAKERS LOST LAST NIGHT
BUT ANYWAY, UM, SO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS THE RACIAL BREAKDOWN BETWEEN, UM, 2023 AND QUARTER ONE OF 2024.
SO THIS HERE IS PERHAPS, UM, NOT FOLLOWING, UM, WHAT WE SAW IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE LATINX POPULATION.
UM, WE SEE A GROWTH IN LATINX, UM, AT LEAST IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024.
I WILL SAY IN COMPARING 2023 WITH 2022, THIS NUMBER IS SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, I'M SORRY, THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER IN 2023.
SO THIS 5.5% LATINX IS A BIT OF A DIP FOR 2023.
AND SO THIS SOMEWHAT TRACKS WHAT WE SAW IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT SINCE EARLY 2023 IS MORE INDICATIVE OF WHAT HAPPENED AND OCCURRED OVER THE COURSE OF 2022, THAT LATINX POPULATION WAS HIGH IN THE 2023 POINT IN TIME COUNT.
THEREFORE, THIS DIP TO THE OVERALL NUMBERS IN 2023 ARE REPRESENTED IN OUR EARLY 2024 POINT IN TIME COUNT.
SO DESPITE WHAT WAS AN OVERALL TREND OF INCREASING LATINX POPULATION IN, UH, OUR HOMELESS POPULATION, UM, WE, IT SEEMS IT'S GROWING NOW, BUT IT DEFINITELY DIPPED IN 2023.
THAT WAS A TREND THAT WE SAW IN OUR HMIS DATA.
UM, OTHERWISE OUR CATEGORIES SEEM TO BE
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RELATIVELY STABLE.I WILL SAY THAT THERE WAS, UM, BIG GROWTH IN OUR NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATION IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, UM, AND AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFYING WITH MULTIRACIAL WAS ALSO A LARGE INCREASE.
I THINK ONE REASON WHY THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE IS BECAUSE THERE IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY BIG FEDERAL PUSH TO INCREASE THE REPRESENTATION OF MULTIRACIAL INDIVIDUALS.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S AN, THERE'S AN NOT ONLY AN INCREASED AWARENESS, BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE BEING ASKED THAT QUESTION QUITE OFTEN, UM, ABOUT THEIR, UM, MULTIRACIAL IDENTITIES.
AND SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A JUMP IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IN MULTIRACIAL IDENTITIES.
AND ONE THING THAT I THINK IS PROBABLY A BIT OF A FLAW WITHIN HOW HMIS IS SET UP IS WE DON'T HAVE GREAT DATA ON LIKE WHAT MULTIRACIAL MEANS.
HOWEVER, DURING THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, WE DO MAKE AN EFFORT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES MULTIRACIAL MEAN FOR PEOPLE.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY SELECTING WHAT THOSE MULTI RACES MEAN.
ACTUALLY I WILL, SO I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.
HUD IN THEIR 2024 DATA STANDARDS HAS CORRECTED THAT, ALL RIGHT? AND IN FACT NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR LIKE ALL OF THE PAIR WISE AND LIKE TRIPLE WISE MULTIRACIAL IDENTIFICATIONS.
THOSE ARE NOW, I CAN ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BREAK THIS DOWN NOW FROM JUMPING 19.6 ON PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY AS MULTIRACIAL.
I CAN GET ALL OF THE PAIRWISE AND UH, TRIPLE WISE, UH, IDENTIFICATION.
THAT IS A CAN OF WORMS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT LIKE 20% OF THE POPULATION, LIKE ALL OF THE LITTLE SEGMENTS THAT THEY DO.
BUT YES, WE CAN NOW BREAK THAT OUT.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF, I THINK ONE REASON WHY WE'RE GETTING MORE RACIAL IS BECAUSE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, I AM BIRACIAL, BUT LOOKING AT BLACK.
SO IF OUR NUMBER SAYS IT'S 43% BLACK, BUT I MARK BIRACIAL, I'M STILL GETTING SEEN IN, YOU KNOW, PERCEIVING THE WORLD AS A BLACK PERSON.
SO LIKE IN OUR NUMBER ACTUALLY 43 OR IS IT 53 OR 63? SO THERE ARE, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENCES AND IN FACT THERE, UH, IN TERMS OF, I JUST ATTENDED LIKE A, A WEBINAR FROM HUD ON POINT IN TIME COUNT SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARDS TO PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY AS MULTIRACIAL AND AS PART OF THAT MULTIRACIAL IDENTITY, THEY INCLUDE BLACK, THE UM, THE GUIDANCE FROM HUD WAS TO IDENTIFY THAT INDIVIDUAL AS BLACK.
AND SO THAT'S, AND SO IN OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT, THAT IS HOW WE LIKE, THAT IS HOW I CODED PEOPLE WHO HAVE MULTIRACIAL IDENTIFICATIONS, INCLUDING BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN, THEY ARE CODED AS BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE WE'RE GONNA ASK THEM AND CAPTURE EVERYTHING, BUT ALSO WHEN WE REPORT IT, THEN IT'S GONNA BE BLACK.
SO CAPTURING BOTH THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
WHEN WE REPORT IT, IT'S GONNA LIKE, THAT'S HOW IT'S GONNA BE REPORTED.
WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN BREAK THAT OUT.
HOWEVER, LIKE IF THAT LIKE TO WHAT, TO WHATEVER EXTENT WE WANT TO BREAK THAT OUT AND LIKE ANALYZE IT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.
I REMEMBER THE 22 POINT IN TIME COUNT AND THEY, UH, CLASSIFY MEN X OR TO WHITE.
SO YES, THAT, THAT WAS PART OF THE SHIFT FROM HUD TO CHANGE THE RACIAL.
AND AT THAT POINT LATINX WAS CONSIDERED AN ETHNICITY AND NOT A RACE.
AND SO THEY SEPARATED THOSE OUT, UM, BECAUSE THEY WOULD THEN ASK WHAT, HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY RACIALLY? AND THEY WOULD LIST BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHITE ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER.
AND THEN SO HOWEVER, NOT INCLUDED IN THAT LIST OF RACIAL IDENTITIES WAS LATINX IN A SEPARATE QUESTION.
THEY WOULD THEN ASK, DO YOU IDENTIFY AS HISPANIC? LIKE HISPANIC OR NON-HISPANIC, LATIN OR NON LATIN? AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU COULD END UP WITH THAT PAIRWISE COMBINATION OF SOMEBODY IDENTIFYING AS ANY, ANY BASICALLY ANY OTHER COMBINATION HERE AND HISPANIC OR NON-HISPANIC.
THAT'S HOW THEY BROKE THAT OUT.
THAT HAS CHANGED NOW BOTH IN HUD'S DATA STANDARDS AS WELL AT LIKE CALIFORNIA NOW DOES THAT AS WELL.
THEY'RE INCLUDING LATINX AS A RACIAL CATEGORY SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN SELECT FROM LIKE THE SAME LIST.
LIKE IT'S, IT'S INCLUDED IN THE SAME LIST OF RACIAL IDENTIFICATIONS NOW.
AND WE STARTED THAT IN 2022 MM-HMM.
HOWEVER, FOR HU PURPOSES AT THE TIME WE DID HAVE TO CONVERT EVERYBODY
SO IT'S NOT, I REMEMBER EXPLAINING ALL THIS TO US AT 2022,
I WILL SAY WHEN WE, WHEN WE SET THE CURVE, LIKE WHEN WE'RE AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN THAT WAY, LIKE IT'S GREAT BECAUSE WE GET MUCH BETTER DATA.
IT'S LIKE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE BACK END, THAT'S A NIGHTMARE TO LIKE TRY TO LIKE RETROFIT THAT INFORMATION INTO LIKE THE OLD CURVE, THE OLD SYSTEM.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE, BUT THEY'VE CAUGHT IFFY THOUGH.
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WHO IDENTIFIES AS LA LATINX IS, IS A, I MEAN, MAN PEOPLE WHO ARE, THEY'RE WHITE, THEY'RE WHITE AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY INDIGENOUS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO ARE BLACK AND THEY'RE ALL SPEAKING SPANISH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT RAISED, MAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE VERY, WE'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA MISS DIFFERENCES IN SKIN COLOR THAT ARE RELEVANT.YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE POINT OF THEM WANTING TO BREAK OUT THIS SPECIFIC, LIKE THIS MULTIRACIAL CATEGORY TO BE ABLE TO BREAK IT OUT BY ALL THOSE PAIRWISE COMBINATIONS BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THAT YOU, THE EXACT SAME THING THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, WHICH IS THIS, LIKE NOT ALL COMBINATIONS ARE LIKE, WE CAN'T TREAT ALL OF THESE COMBINATIONS AS LIKE THE EXACT SAME CATEGORY.
SOMEONE WHO CONSIDERS THEMSELVES TO BE LIKE A QUARTER NATIVE AMERICAN AND THEN THREE QUARTERS BLACK, UM, WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN LIKE CONSIDERED MULTIRACIAL.
BUT LIKE THAT'S, IF IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE BREAK OUT AND DISTINGUISH ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS, UM, TO YOUR POINT, BECAUSE THERE DOES GET TO BE SOME, I GUESS A GRAY AREA IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW PEOPLE IDENTIFY.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOWEVER, IN ATTEMPTING TO STANDARDIZE WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD ANSWER, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY ENDED UP DEFERRING TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
IF, IF YOU IDENTIFY AS X, THAT'S WHAT YOU IDENTIFY AS.
AND SO I THINK THAT THEY, THEY GAVE THE DEFERENCE THERE TO THE INDIVIDUAL RESPONDING TO THE QUESTION.
I ALSO JUST WANT TO MENTION THIS ASTOUNDINGLY DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF, OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I I I THINK OF OVER INCARCERATION, I THINK OF OVER HOSPITALIZATION AMONG OTHER THINGS.
YOU KNOW, I I WILL NOTE THIS POPULATION HERE SPECIFICALLY ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REACHING OUT FOR SERVICES.
THIS IS NOT POINT IN TIME COUNT.
WHAT YOU WILL FIND IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS THIS NUMBER ACTUALLY GOES DOWN A LITTLE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY.
OH, I'M, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE LIKE AN EXACT NUMBER HERE.
LET'S, LIKE, LET'S ASSUME IT'S LIKE DOWN HERE MAYBE, UM, THIS NUMBER LATINX, I'M SORRY, THIS IS HARD TO READ, BUT LATINX GOES UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, IN FACT, THIS IS THE SECOND LARGEST CATEGORY IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
SO THAT ALONE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT OF LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT AND LIKE OUR HMIS DATA.
BUT IN LIEU OF THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
THIS NUMBER BE UP IN TERMS OF JUST THE SHEER AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH.
THIS NUMBER GOING DOWN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT AND THE HMIS DATA.
WHAT DOES THAT SUGGEST TO US REACHING OUT FOR SERVICES AND WHO'S NOT EXACTLY THIS GROUP HERE, LATINX IS JUST NOT REACHING OUT TO SERVICES.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE MSC, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO AGAIN, PERHAPS THIS IS A SUGGESTION OF LIKE OUTREACH OR LIKE INFORMATION, RIGHT? PERHAPS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK ABOUT HERE.
'CAUSE THESE NUMBERS, UM, WHILE RELATIVELY REFLECTIVE OF THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES, ESPECIALLY IN THIS GROUP HERE, THE LATINX GROUP, AND THEN THIS GROUP SIGNIFICANTLY COMES DOWN.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE MULTI-ETHNIC CATEGORY, AND YOU SAID THAT HUD, IF YOU SAY I AM BLACK AND LATINO OR BLACK AND ASIAN, YOU COUNT, THEY COUNT THEM AS BLACK.
BUT DOESN'T THAT POINT UNDER COUNT OTHER CATEGORIES OR LIKE UNDER HOW MAKE
I SAT IN ON A CONVERSATION WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY WERE TAKING THIS GROUP HERE, THIS MULTIRACIAL GROUP, AND THEY, THEY BROKE IT APART BY ALL OF THE, LIKE, IF AN INDIVIDUAL IDENTIFIED WITH TWO OR THREE, THEY COUNTED EACH ONE.
WHAT DOES THAT DO? WELL, IT THEN ACCOUNTS FOR ALL OF THE IDENTITIES.
IT DOES END UP INFLATING THE NUMBER.
AND SO IT CHANGES WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING.
AND THIS IS, I I, I TRIED TO MAKE THIS POINT VERY CLEAR TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT LIKE, IF THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO RENAME ALL OF THEIR CHARTS TO, THIS ISN'T PEOPLE, THESE ARE IDENTITIES.
AND SO THAT'S THEIR SUGGESTION WAS TO START BREAKING THIS OUT AND THEN DEMONSTRATING IDENTITIES AND NOT PEOPLE THAT, AND YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO HAS ITS FLAWS, RIGHT? BECAUSE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IDENTIFIES SOLELY AS A SINGLE RACE IS COUNTED ONE TIME IN THAT SOMEBODY WHO IDENTIFIES AS FIVE NOW HAS NOW IS REPRESENTED FIVE TIMES.
SO THERE, THERE ARE FLAWS TO THAT SYSTEM, BUT THERE ARE IDEAS FLOATING AROUND RIGHT NOW TO INCORPORATE THAT MULTIRACIAL IDENTITY IN COUNTING AND LIKE GETTING THEIR REPRESENTATION UP HERE.
BUT IN TERMS OF FUNDING, IT'S JUST BASICALLY PEOPLE SERVED
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A NUMBER OF PEOPLE NOT, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOLLARS, FEDS ARE GONNA LOOK AT NUMBER OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? UH, YES.IN TERMS OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE STILL DOING PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHY THIS CATEGORY IS ACTUALLY STILL RELEVANT HERE BECAUSE WE STILL NEED ACCOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS HERE, NOT ACCOUNT OF IDENTITIES, RIGHT? SO THE POINT OF TIME COUNT IS THE ONE THAT YOU WILL USE FOR FEDERAL SUPPORT.
BUT THE, THE HMIS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW TO SERVE NUMBER OF OUTREACH, CULTURAL COMPETENCY TO DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
THE BEAUTY OF HMIS IS THAT I, IT CAN GO EITHER WAY.
SO IF, IF WE WANTED TO BREAK THAT CATEGORY LIKE THIS, OH NO, WHAT DID I, I PRESSED A WRONG BUTTON.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALEXA, HELP ME.
UM, IF WE WANTED TO BREAK, I'M NOT GONNA USE THE POINTER ANYMORE.
IF I WANTED TO BREAK THIS CATEGORY UP FOR SERVICE NEEDS, I COULD, FOR LIKE REPORTING PURPOSES, WHICH WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO REPORT BACK TO HUB, I CAN STILL MAINTAIN THIS AS A MONOLITHIC GROUP HERE JUST TO GET A, LIKE A SPECIFIC LIKE COUNT OF INDIVIDUALS.
WE REDUCE IT DOWN TO THE, I WANNA SEE, I CAN AGGREGATE AND DISAGGREGATE AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS KIND OF THE BEAUTY OF, OF THEM DOING THAT WITH THE NEW DATA STANDARDS.
AND I THINK WHAT THE FEDERAL HUD AND THE STATE ARE KIND OF GETTING AT IN MULTIRACIAL AND LIKE TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT IS SOMEBODY THAT IS MULTIRACIAL, THAT'S WHITE AND ASIAN IS GOING TO HAVE A DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE NAVIGATING SYSTEMS. THAT'S SOME THAT SOMEBODY THAT'S BLACK AND NATIVE AMERICAN LIKE TO UNDERREPRESENTED DISPROPORTIONATE.
LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT DISPROPORTIONALITY VERSUS LIKE HAVING MULTIPLE RACES THAT ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY HOMELESSNESS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL, UH, SOCIAL ISSUES.
UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT DEMOGRAPHIC.
WE'VE ALREADY, I YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT ASKING QUESTIONS THOUGH.
SOMETIMES MY STUDENTS NEED LIKE A LITTLE POKE, LIKE ASK ME QUESTIONS, BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOOD.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO SOME PERFORMANCE DATA.
UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS ROOM.
UM, SO I TOOK A LOOK AT, UM, OCCUPANCY RATES.
SO AGAIN, THIS GETS TO SOME OF THE SUPPLY, LIKE, AGAIN, THE QUESTION MARKS HERE ARE ABOUT DEMAND AND SUPPLY.
WE JUST SAW A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT DEMAND, RIGHT? LIKE, THIS IS WHAT THESE, THIS IS LIKE THE INFLUX OF NEW PEOPLE.
THIS IS WHO'S COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE COULD EXTRAPOLATE ABOUT SOME OF THEIR DEMANDS.
NOW WE GOTTA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SUPPLYING IN TERMS OF SERVICES.
HOW ARE WE SUPPLYING IT? HOW WELL ARE WE DOING? SO LET'S TALK ABOUT, UM, OCCUPANCY RATES HERE SPECIFICALLY BY LIKE PROJECT TYPES THAT ARE HERE IN THIS ROOM REPRESENTED.
WHAT I HAVE HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS.
SO THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE HERE, RIGHT? SO FOR THIS YEAR, THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, I, I, I KIND OF WANT AN ASIDE HERE.
I APOLOGIZE FOR USING LIKE CALENDAR YEAR BEFORE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THAN MIGHT BE, SORRY,
I FEEL LIKE I SAY THIS EVERY TIME.
LIKE I, I MEET WITH YOU GUYS, I HATE THE FISCAL YEAR SYSTEM, UM, EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T BY
UM, SO THE COMPARISON IN THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF OUR FISCAL YEAR IS BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.
OKAY? THIS MIDDLE SECTION HERE IS HOW WE FINISHED THIS YEAR.
OKAY? SO THIS IS THE FINAL QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, IN ESSENCE TO SUGGEST LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE DID IN THE FIRST PART OF THAT YEAR.
UP UNTIL NOW OF 20 22, 23, WE HAD ABOUT AN 84%, UH, AVERAGE OCCUPANCY RATE.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DOWN FROM THAT ABOUT ROUGHLY 80%.
SO KIND OF 4% DOWN FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT DOWN.
UM, AND THEN WE FINISHED THE YEAR AT ABOUT THE SAME RATE A LITTLE BIT DOWN FROM BEFORE, BUT RELATIVELY SIMILAR TO HOW WE STARTED.
IS THIS JUST, UH, COC OR IS THIS ALL, THESE ARE ONLY COC PROGRAMS ON THIS.
SO I KNOW I WAS SHOWING YOU LIKE DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM AND, UM, I, IT'S HARD TO SHOW DEMAND JUST FROM THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM.
DEMAND SHOULD BE, OVERALL SUPPLY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMS IN THIS ROOM.
SO THE DEMAND IS WHAT YOU SAW.
SUPPLY IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS ROOM.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DOWN.
WE FINISHED A LITTLE BIT DOWN LAST TIME, SO PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYES ON.
MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DIP IN OUR OCCUPANCY RATE AS WELL.
UM, THIS TIME AROUND, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING PEOPLE IN, SORRY, IN THE ROOMS. RAPID REHOUSING HAS A REALLY UP AND DOWN STORY HERE.
LAST TIME AROUND WE HAD A PRETTY LOW OCCUPANCY RATE.
WE'RE DOING MUCH BETTER THIS TIME AROUND, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
AND FOR THE LAST QUARTER OF LAST FISCAL YEAR, UM, WE WERE GANGBUSTERS.
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THIS WAS AMAZING.UM, SO AGAIN, UH, I, I DEFER TO THE EXPERTS IN THIS ROOM EXACTLY HOW WE WENT FROM THIS NUMBER TO THIS NUMBER.
UM, THAT'S CONTRACT, CONTRACT END.
SO THEY HAVE TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH FUNDING TO DRAW SO THAT WHEN THEY ASK THE NEXT, YEAH, THE CHURCH AVAILABILITY.
SO ONE THING THAT EXISTS IN THE RAPID REHOUSING RIGHT HERE IS APPS USING UP THEIR RAPID REHOUSING CONTRACT AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES TAKING IT ON WITH THE PLAN TO SUNSET IT.
SO I THINK THERE WAS A BUMP, BUT IT'S ALSO WORKING TOWARDS LIKE, THEY'RE BASICALLY WIDDLING DOWN.
UM, AND JUNE 30TH WILL BE THE END OF THAT PROJECT.
SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT YOU MIGHT BE SEEING THERE AS FAR AS WHEN PAT HAD IT, THEY STOPPED ENROLLING PEOPLE.
CATHOLIC CHARITIES, YOU KNOW, THEY MOVED QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN BUT HAVE SINCE KIND OF MM-HMM.
SO TO YOUR POINT, HOWEVER, THERE PERHAPS IS A BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT INCENTIVES IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF, OF BUILDING OUT LIKE, UM, LIKE A PERFORMANCE METRIC FOR RAPID REHOUSING SO THAT WE DON'T SEE THIS LIKE BIG ROLLER COASTER HERE.
UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR HOW THIS HAPPENED.
THERE WAS A SHIFT IN AGENCIES ON A SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
UM, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT MIGHT NET THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND SO BEING AWARE OF IT IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
WHEN DID STAFFORD ASK END? WAS IT 22 OR WAS IT, I DUNNO, WELL, DO YOU REMEMBER? IT WAS LIKE MAY, WAS IT MAY OF 22? PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
I THINK IT WAS PRETTY SIMILAR TO LIKE BEFORE MY TIME, THE WHOLE FEMA GUIDANCE, UH, STUFF KIND OF COMING TO AN END.
UM, I WILL SAY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OCCUPANCY AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT VACANCY, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN PSH AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS SADLY DRIVEN BY PROGRAMS. YEAH.
AND THERE WILL BE SOME CONVERSATION THAT WE BRING FORWARD WITHIN UPCOMING MEETINGS AROUND, YOU KNOW, REALLOCATION BECAUSE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S NEW.
THESE ARE FRIENDS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING FOR A WHILE NOW AND WE HAVE ONE PROJECT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN AT, YOU KNOW, LOW UTILIZATION FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
AND I THINK IT'S FINE THAT LIKE WE HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION OF DO WE CONTINUE TO FUND THAT IF IT CONTINUES TO NOT BE UTILIZED, THIS INCENTIVIZES IT TO THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? YOU DON'T GET MINIMUM X PERCENTAGE OCCUPANCY.
YOU DON'T GET YOUR, YOU DON'T GET THAT DELIVERABLE IN, YOU DON'T GET YOUR, THAT IS, SO YES, OCCUPANCY RATE IS PART OF OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WE HOLD ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS TO.
UM, AND SO YEAH, THAT, THAT IS A PART OF THE, LIKE THE OVERALL FUNCTION OF, OR I SAY LIKE THE TABULATION OF THEIR SCORE AT THE END OF THE YEAR ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET FUNDED FULLY OR NOT.
SO YES, UH, THIS IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
I WILL SAY ANECDOTALLY ABOUT LIKE VETERANS AND LIKE PLAYING A MAJOR ROLE IN OCCUPYING THESE, UM, THINGS.
WE, WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF LIKE ACUITY SCORE BASICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE CHRONICITY AND LIKE WHO'S BEING HOUSED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND TO OUR SURPRISE, UM, THE, ACTUALLY THE, THE LARGEST PROPORTION OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GETTING HOUSED IN OUR SYSTEM ARE NOT THE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING PEOPLE ON THE VERY HIGH END OF THE ACUITY SCORE, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT THE ONES WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF BEING HOUSED.
IT'S PEOPLE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THAT'S IN LARGE PART THANKS TO THE FACT THAT VETERANS SCORE IN THAT MIDDLE RANGE AND THERE'S JUST SO MANY MORE AVAILABLE UNITS FOR VETERANS THAT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO END UP GOING INTO THOSE HOUSING PROJECTS.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE VETERAN DAD WOULD SKEW THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S CORRECT.
SO PERHAPS THAT'S INDICATIVE OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.
THERE'S JUST PERHAPS MORE UNITS, UM, LIKE MORE, UM, RESOURCES AVAILABLE THAN, AND PERHAPS THERE NEEDS TO BE A SHIFT FROM ONE RESOURCE TO THE OTHER.
AND AGAIN, BEING AGGREGATE, I WILL SAY THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR PSH PROJECTS ARE 90% DEAL AS LIKE YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
MOST PSH PROJECTS ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT ARE OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO THIS IS LIKE THE AGGREGATE, BUT IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OUT LIKE THE OUTLIERS WITHIN THOSE WE'RE PROBABLY CLOSER TO FUN, FUN, FUN LITTLE TIDBIT HERE.
AND I DIDN'T PUT IT IN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW NERDY YOU GUYS ARE FOR MATH STUFF, BUT LIKE, I ALSO RAN THE MEDIANS.
SO FOR THOSE STATS, PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MEAN AND THE MEDIAN, RIGHT? UM, IF YOUR MEAN IS HIGHER THAN THE MEDIAN,
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THAT MEANS YOU HAVE OUTLIERS ON THE HIGH END OF THE SPECTRUM.AND IF YOU ARE MEAN IS LOWER THAN THE MEDIAN, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE OUTLIERS ON THE LOW END OF THE SPECTRUM.
AND IN ESSENCE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE CASES, THE MEDIAN WAS HIGHER.
MEANING WE HAVE SOME PROGRAMS THAT ARE JUST DRAGGING THIS AVERAGE AL LIKE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
THE MEDIAN AT, TO PAUL'S POINT, GENERALLY ARE IN THE 90% AT LEAST FOR PSH.
SO THAT'S LIKE, AGAIN, I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN HERE, BUT LIKE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, LIKE THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION POINT HERE, WHICH IS THAT THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS AT THESE, UM, AT THESE PROJECT TYPES THAT TEND TO BE DRAGGING DOWN THESE AVERAGES.
SO WHAT MAY LOOK TO BE DIRE HERE TEND TO BE OUTLIERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DRAGGING THIS DOWN.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ADD FOR ITY AND UPSH, HOW WE, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING TOO WELL OCCUPANCY WISE, UM, FOR LIKE MATCHING AND GETTING FOLKS INTO RESOURCES.
WE DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE CURRENTLY TO MATCH HOUSING AND, UM, TRADITIONAL HOUSING UNITS.
SO WE IN ESSENCE, LIKE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE, UM, IN THE NEXT SECTION OF OUR, OUR TIME TODAY.
BUT JUST LIKE POINT OUT, MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE ETHNICITY FOR LIKE OTHER PROGRAMS AT THE BEGINNING OF ADULT'S PRESENTATION IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE LIKE PROGRAMS TO REALLY FILL THOSE BEDS BASED ON LIKE HOW THEY IDENTIFY PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT MIGHT NOT ALWAYS FIT INTO WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE FOR LIKE MOST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SWEAR THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE LAST ONE.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO THEN, UH, PERHAPS LIKE THE NEXT LIKE BIG, UH, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE METRIC THAT WE ALL LOVE IS THE, LIKE EXITS TO PERMANENT HOUSING OR IN THE CASE OF PERMANENT SUPPORT, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY RETAINED, UH, THEIR PERMANENT HOUSING STATUS.
SO IN ESSENCE, THE RECIPROCAL OF THIS, MEANING IF THEY EXITED TO A NON-PERMANENT STATUS, UM, AND WHAT WE SEE IS, AT LEAST FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN WE DID LAST TIME.
AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS ARE QUITE HIGH.
THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD IN FACT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, LIKE ACROSS FEDERAL, UH, THE FEDERAL STANDARD HERE I THINK IS ABOUT 95%.
UH, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING THAT THIS TIME AROUND WHERE I THINK WE FELL JUST SHORT OF THAT LAST YEAR.
UM, BUT 95% IS KIND OF THE, THE FEDERAL STANDARD HERE.
UH, AND, AND WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MEETING THAT HERE.
UM, I DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL STANDARDS ARE FOR THESE OTHER PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF LIKE THE BENCHMARK THAT THEY HAVE, UM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING RELATIVELY SIMILAR, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP IN TERMS OF RAPID REHOUSING EXITS.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WE, UH, WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE FALLING A BIT SHORT, AT LEAST FROM THE BENCHMARK THAT WE SET LAST TIME AROUND.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW THAT I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DEMAND AND SUPPLY.
DEMAND IS RELATIVELY EASY TO UNDERSTAND.
IT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE.
SUPPLY IS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS HERE NOT ONLY REFLECT THE WORK THAT WE PUT IN, IT ALSO REFLECTS THE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING EXITED TO, WHICH IN LARGE PART ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN MY, I'M NOT HERE TO LIKE FINGER WAG OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LIKE, OH, WE NEED TO DO BETTER, BUT LIKE, PART OF THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF LIKE, WHY IS THIS NUMBER DOWN? AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A, LIKE, YOU GUYS NEED TO DO BETTER.
UM, ALTHOUGH I KNOW I DID SAY THAT I APOLOGIZE
BUT, UM, THE IDEA THAT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS TO ASK WHY, RIGHT? LIKE, THESE AREN'T, THESE AREN'T ANECDOTAL STORIES.
LIKE THIS ISN'T A ONESIE TWOSIE.
THESE ARE, THIS IS AVERAGE, THIS IS THE WHOLE SYSTEM, OR AT LEAST THIS IS THE TH PROGRAMS, THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAMS IN THIS ROOM, RIGHT? SO IT'S ALL OF THE PROGRAMS, IT'S A DECENT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
UH, AND SO THIS ISN'T ANOMALOUS IN ANY WAY.
LIKE THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT REPRESENT OUR SYSTEM.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS PERHAPS WHY AND WHAT MIGHT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO SHIFT THAT NUMBER UPWARDS OR PERHAPS SHIFT RESOURCES IN A DIFFERENT WAY SO THAT WE ARE MAXIMIZING THE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES IN OUR PROGRAMS. OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? IS IT A CAPACITY SHIFT? IS THERE, LIKE IF YOU'RE LIKE HIGH, HIGH UTILIZATION, LIKE CAPACITY FOR P PSH, TRANSITIONAL, WE KNOW WHAT TO GO TO.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY, I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT DESCRIBES A LOT OF SYSTEMS, OURS INCLUDED, WHICH IS WE HAVE ISSUES WITH DEALING WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEMAND THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHY TALKING ABOUT SUPPLY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHEN YOU DRIVE DEMAND UP,
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WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COST OF SUPPLY? UH, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR ABILITY TO MEET THAT DEMAND? IF IT GOES LIKE IN COMPARISON, IT GOES DOWN.AND SO THAT'S POSSIBLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, RIGHT? UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE SAME, THE SAME, UM, MECHANISMS THAT ARE INCREASING DEMAND ARE ALSO PERHAPS LEADING TO THESE LOWER SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES, RIGHT? IF RENTAL COSTS ARE UP AND MORE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THEN IT'S PERHAPS NO SURPRISE THAT WHEN PEOPLE EXIT THESE PROGRAMS, THEY'RE ALSO UNABLE TO FIND SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES, RIGHT? FOR THE EXACT SAME REASONS WHY THEY BECAME HOMELESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO AGAIN, THERE ARE STORIES TO BE WOVEN HERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, ALLOWED HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YEAH, GO ON.
FROM YOUR, UH, FROM YOUR DATA THAT YOU PRESENTED THAT YOU HAVEN'T PRESENTED TO FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S THAT THE SADIE OR HIS CLC BOARD IS ON TARGET IN OUR OBJECTIVES? I THINK, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE PERSON TO ASK THAT.
UH, I, I, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE PERSON TO, TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER LIKE YES OR NO TO IF WE'RE ON TARGET.
ARE THESE NUMBERS GOOD FOR US? WELL, I WOULD SAY WE COMPARE FAVORABLY TO OTHER COCS.
LIKE I, THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS LIKE A REALLY GOOD SPOT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE ACROSS LIKE OTHER COCS AND LIKE HOW WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND WE DO END UP, WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB HERE.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHAT WE DO HERE.
UM, I THINK, I THINK, YEAH, IN TERMS OF OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ROOM TO GROW, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS FROM OTHER COCS, EVERYBODY ELSE IS KIND OF, EVERYBODY ELSE IS FEELING THE PINCH AS WELL.
I LIKE, I I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S AS FAR AS I CAN SAY.
I MEAN, I WILL SAY AREAS THAT OBVIOUSLY STICK OUT TO ME WHERE, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF HOW WE COMPARE, I THINK IT'S LESS IMPORTANT TO ME THAN LIKE, WHAT IS, ARE WE MAXIMIZING OUR RESOURCES? AND I THINK THERE'S CONVERSATION TO BE HAD WITHIN THIS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, RAPID REHOUSING HAS SOME OF ITS FLUCTUATIONS THAT I THINK WILL PROBABLY STABILIZE WITH THE, UM, PATH, RAPID FAMILY, RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM.
DISSOLVING LIKE UTILIZATION WILL BE PROBABLY MAXIMIZED AT THAT POINT.
UM, THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING UNDERUTILIZED.
IS IT AN ANOMALY WHERE LIKE THEY HAD NOT HERE OR IS IT A.