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SORRY, I COULD JUST RUN ONE ON MY PHONE.

THAT'S FINE TOO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER FOR MAY 16TH, 2024 AT THREE OH SIX.

AND I WILL CALL ROLL, UH, MEMBER HERNANDEZ.

ABSENT.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK PRESENT.

MEMBER CASTILLO HERE.

UH, MEMBER GUAN? NOT YET.

MEMBER ELY.

ELY? YES.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

MEMBER BIRDWELL.

ABSENT.

MEMBER MAORI.

HERE.

PERFECT.

MEMBER POTTER? PRESENT MEMBER LUKI.

PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OH, SORRY.

UH, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

I'M PRESENT.

UH, OUR PTA REPRESENTATIVE IS VACANT.

L-B-U-S-D REPRESENTATIVE IS KEA.

SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY.

AND OUR NON-PUBLIC SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVE IS ALSO VACANT.

UM, MOVING FORWARD THOUGH, WE CAN START OUR FIRST ITEM.

SO WE ARE GOING TO ITEM ONE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO PROVIDE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

UM, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THE PURPOSE AND PRACTICES OF THE COMMITTEE.

UM, ARE YOU GIVING IT OR IS THERE SOMETHING? UM, YEAH, I CAN GIVE THAT.

OKAY.

, THAT WORKS.

YEP.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER, I THINK.

UM, FOUR.

OKAY.

SO IF WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE CAN JUST, UH, WITHDRAW THIS ITEM OKAY.

AND NOT VOTE ON IT.

AND MAYBE MOVING FORWARD ONCE WE'RE MORE ESTABLISHED SURE.

WE'LL HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

OKAY.

ITEM TWO.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATION REGARDING THE BROWN ACT.

ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? NO.

VANESSA WAS, WE CAN VOTE TO LAY THIS ITEM OVER OR WE CAN WITHDRAW IT AND BRING IT BACK.

YES.

IF WE CAN LAY IT OVER.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE, WE WEREN'T SURE IF WE WERE TO CONTACT THEM TO REQUEST THEIR PRESENCE AT THE MEETING OR, YES.

YEAH, THAT HAS HAPPEN.

OKAY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, SO TO VOTE, TO LAY THIS OVER, WE NEED A MOTION.

DOES ANYONE HERE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? AND IF YOU DO, CAN YOU JUST SAY YOUR NAME? MICHELLE MALLORY.

UH, UH, I MOVE THE WE TABLE ASIDE TO THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

PAUL VAN D**E.

OKAY.

AND SO I WILL DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

UM, COMMISSIONER LEKI, ARE YOU A I OR NO? UH, AYE.

OKAY.

UH, SORRY.

MEMBER POTTER.

AYE.

MEMBER MOWRY.

AYE.

MEMBER ELY.

AYE.

MEMBER CASTILLO.

AYE.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK AYE.

AND MEMBER VANDYKE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM THREE.

SO FOR ITEM THREE, WHAT WE DO IS WE OPEN NOMINATIONS, UM, TO SELECT OR JUST START TO DISCUSS WHO WE WANNA NOMINATE AS CHAIR.

UM, YOU CAN SELF NOMINATE IF YOU'D LIKE, OR YOU CAN NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE NOMINATIONS AND WE'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE NOMINATIONS THAT ARE, UM, PROVIDED.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO A SECOND ONE FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP, UH, NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.

I THINK SINCE, UM, MY DIVISION'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING A LOT OF THE CONTENT HERE, I CAN, I'M COMFORTABLE NOMINATING MYSELF AS CHAIR.

PERFECT.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY? CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE SECOND? THE MOTION? SECOND.

PERFECT.

OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO.

NO MOTION.

AND THE SECOND I'M SORRY, WAS ME, MALLORY.

MALLORY, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE NOMINATIONS.

AND LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

MEMBER

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LUKI.

WE'RE VOTING YES.

ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.

OKAY.

NOT REALLY.

SO THERE'S, I'M LIKE BRAND NEW AND I HAVE TO VOTE.

, IT'S A YES OR NO PRETTY MUCH.

UM, YOU CAN ABSTAIN.

UH, SOME COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES LET PEOPLE ABSTAIN.

LIKE IF THEY WEREN'T AT THE MEETING PRIOR AND THEY'RE ADOPTING MINUTES, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN.

BUT REALLY YOU'RE PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES IN YOUR PACKET, SO YOU SHOULD BE VOTING ON THEM.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE? IF YOU'RE GONNA ABSTAIN, THEN YOU REALLY SHOULD NOT BE HEARING THE ITEM.

LIKE THERE'S RECUSING YOURSELF.

IF THERE'S A CONFLICT, YOU LEAVE THE ROOM, WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, WE HAVE THE VOTE AND YOU'RE NOT INCLUDED.

BUT IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'VE MADE A COMMITMENT, YOU REALLY SHOULD PROVIDE A YES OR NO.

A NO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, SO YOUR VOTE IS NO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, NOT PERSONAL.

I JUST, MEMBER POTTER.

.

UM, I, I GUESS I, I DON'T, THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING, .

SO, WHAT THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE DOES IS PRETTY MUCH MAINTAIN THE FLOW OF THE MEETING.

UM, THEY CAN BRING FORWARD ITEMS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE INTERRUPTING EACH OTHER, KIND OF SAY, OKAY, LET'S TAKE ONE AT A TIME AND YOU'LL CALL AS A CHAIR ON THE NEXT PERSON TO SPEAK.

BUT REALLY SAME AUTHORITY AS EVERYBODY ELSE.

UM, THAT'S FINE.

SO YEAH, JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, WHAT A CHAIR IS, AND THEN THE VICE CHAIR, IF, IF THE CHAIR IS ABSENT, THE VICE CHAIR SERVES AS THAT ROLE, SO, OKAY.

AYE.

OKAY.

UM, MEMBER MAORI.

AYE.

MEMBER ELY.

AYE.

MEMBER CASTILLO.

AYE.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK.

YES.

AND MEMBER VANECK.

AYE.

THE MOTION CARRIED.

AND SO LET'S DO ONE MORE MOTION AND OPEN IT UP FOR VICE CHAIR OF THIS BODY.

ANYONE WANT TO NOMINATE THEMSELF? HI, WILL.

AND I'M SORRY, ONE MORE TIME.

WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? WENDY ELY.

PERFECT.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEE NONE.

WE CAN CLOSE.

NOMINATION.

CAN WE GET A SECOND ON WENDY SECOND.

PERFECT.

AND LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE MEMBER LUKI.

NO, I HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT NOW.

MEMBER POTTER.

AYE.

IT'S NOT MEMBER.

AYE.

MEMBER ELY.

AYE.

MEMBER CASTILLO.

AYE.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK.

YES.

MEMBER VAN D**E.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I CAN CONTINUE WITH THIS MEETING IF YOU LIKE, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD.

SURE.

YOU'LL BE THE ONE.

YEP.

KIND OF.

I CAN STILL CONTINUE READING THE ITEMS AND TAKING ROLE, BUT, UM, MOVING FORWARD YOU CAN TAKE A MORE CHAIR ROLE.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM FOUR, THANK YOU.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT ON THE ROLE OF THE COMMITTEE.

BEFORE WE BEGIN, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO HEAR THE ITEM? SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AGREE TO HEAR THE ITEM.

I MOVE THAT WE ASK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO PRESENT THE ITEM.

PERFECT.

AND ANYONE ELSE WANNA SECOND THAT? SECOND? THANK YOU.

AND NOW WE CAN BEGIN.

OKAY.

UM, SO YEAH, THANKS EVERYONE FOR SHOWING UP.

IT CAN BE KIND OF A PAIN TO GET THROUGH THE SECURITY DESK AND FIND YOUR WAY THROUGH ALL THESE NONDESCRIPT CORRIDORS TO FINALLY FIND THE ROOM THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO.

BUT, UH, YEAH, I THANK EVERYONE FOR VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME, MIDDLE OF A WORK DAY, MIDDLE OF THE WEEK, UM, AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE BUSIEST TIME OF YEAR, UM, LATE SPRING.

SO, YEAH, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL, UM, FOR SHOWING UP.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THE FIRST CONVENING OF THIS COMMITTEE, UH, SINCE THE PANDEMIC.

SO, UM, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE, UM, AS YOU'LL KINDA SEE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE TO GET PEOPLE, UM, HERE PARTICIPATING, UM, CLEARED TO SERVE.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT HURDLES FOR PAPERWORK AND, AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

UM, TO ACTUALLY SHOW UP AT THIS TABLE TODAY.

UM, SO THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE LATE SEVENTIES AS A VOTER INITIATIVE.

UM, IT'S CODIFIED IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE IN CHAPTER 10.

UM, AND WE HERE, UM, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING AND APPROVING LOCATIONS FOR ALL THE CITY SCHOOL GUARDS.

SO, UH, PRESENT TODAY, UH, IS TINY REED WHO SUPERVISES OUR SCHOOL PROGRAM, SCHOOL GUARD PROGRAM, UM, HIRING, TRAINING, UM, YOU KNOW, ASSISTING ALL OF OUR SCHOOL GUARDS ACROSS THE CITY.

UM, AND, UH, WE'RE HERE TO ASSIST HER IN A DIFFICULT JOB,

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UM, BY, UM, GIVING SOME MORE AUTHORITY IN WHERE WE CAN PLACE SCHOOL GUARDS TO BE RESPONSIVE, UM, TO THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALSO HERE IN THE CODE.

SO, UM, YEAH, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK DEEPLY INTO THAT CHAPTER, UM, ESSENTIALLY, UM, SCHOOL GUARDS HAVE TO BE ASSIGNED AT VERY SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT MEET SPECIFIC CRITERIA.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, A MINIMUM OF 20 ELEMENTARY AGE SCHOOL CHILDREN AGAINST THIS IS VERY NARROWLY DEFINED, 20 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN CROSSING PER HOUR AT THE INTERSECTION IN ADDITION TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

IT'S AN UNUSUALLY COMPLICATED INTERSECTION, UM, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT OPEN TO OUR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT COMPLICATED MEANS.

UM, AN UNCONTROLLED CROSSING, SO NO STOP SIGN, NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, WHICH HAS AT LEAST 250 VEHICLES TRAVELING THROUGH THAT CROSSING EACH HOUR, UM, AT A STOP CONTROLLED INTERSECTION.

SO WITH A, A STOP SIGN, UM, IF THAT CROSSING HAS FOUR OR MORE LANES AND 500 VEHICLES PER HOUR, SO IT'S DOUBLED, UM, FROM THE UNCONTROLLED.

UM, AND THEN AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROLLED CROSSING, UM, MY STAFF, UM, CONDUCT REPORTS AT ALL THESE LOCATIONS.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO OBSERVE MORE THAN 10 VEHICLES CROSSING THE CROSSWALK EVERY MINUTE, UM, FOR IT TO RISE TO THE CLASSIFICATION OF WHAT THE CODE CALLS A HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION.

SO, UM, WE'RE HERE SUPPLEMENTING THOSE TRAFFIC CONTROLS WITH A SCHOOL GUARD.

RIGHT? I THINK THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A MEASURE OF SAFETY IF AN INTERSECTION HAS A STOP SIGN BECAUSE THE MOTORS ARE COMING TO A STOP GENERALLY, AND AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

ALSO, THERE'S THAT MEASURE OF CONTROL, UM, WHERE TRAFFIC HAS TO STOP.

THERE'S A WALK INDICATION.

SO THAT'S WHY AT THOSE LOCATIONS, THERE'S A HIGHER THRESHOLD, UM, WITH MORE TRAFFIC BEING NECESSARY IF WE WERE TO ASSIGN A SCHOOL GUARD AT THAT LOCATION.

UM, THE COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF THE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS HERE.

WE SAW DURING ROLL CALL, UH, ONE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, FROM EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT NOMINATED BY THAT RESPECTIVE COUNCIL PERSON.

ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT APPOINTED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, ONE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NON-PUBLIC SCHOOLS OF THE LONG BEACH AREA THAT'S ALSO NOMINATED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE PTA OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALSO, UM, SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF OUR, OUR BODY HERE.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL CODIFIED REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UM, THE COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSED TO MEET AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR, UM, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

UM, WE SHALL ALSO CONVENE WITHIN 10 DAYS AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER IF YOU SO REQUESTS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THE, THE CHAIRPERSON OR A COMBINATION OF ANY TWO MEMBERS CAN ALSO CALL FOR A MEETING WITHIN 10 DAYS.

UM, REGULAR MEETINGS, AGAIN, TWICE PER YEAR.

UM, THE, THE CODE CALLS FOR PRIOR TO THE START OF THE FALL SEMESTER, WHICH WE'RE SATISFYING TODAY, AND ALSO PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SPRING SEMESTER.

SO WE'LL BE LOOKING TO CONVENE AGAIN, UM, SOMETIME THIS WINTER.

UM, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S PHRASED THAT WAY IS SO WE HAVE TIME THEN TO ASSIGN RESOURCES, UM, VOTE, UM, AND THEN HAVE A SCHOOL GUARD READY, UM, FOR THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL FOR EACH OF THOSE SEMESTERS.

UM, SO THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE, AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON SCHOOL GUARD ASSIGNMENTS, UM, GENERATE ACTION.

SO IF WE, UM, RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED HERE, UH, BY MY STAFF, UH, WITHIN 20 DAYS, THE CITY COUNCIL MUST EITHER INITIATE THAT LOCATION THEMSELVES OR PLACE THAT RECOMMENDATION ON THE AGENDA OF A REGULAR PUBLIC COUNCIL MEETING WITHIN 45 DAYS.

UM, IF THEY DO NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS, THEN THE SCHOOL GUARD IS JUST THUS APPROVED.

SO, UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, IN THE PAST, UH, THAT NORMALLY THE SCHOOL GUARDS WERE JUST APPROVED WELL IN ADVANCE SO THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT HAPPENING IN THE PAST, BUT, UM, THOSE ARE THE, THE GUARDRAILS THAT EXIST, UM, AND THE STRUCTURE FOR THIS PROGRAM.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUMMARY OF THAT SECTION.

AGAIN, IT'S CHAPTER 10.68 IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ IT FOR YOURSELVES.

UM, BUT YEAH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT UPDATE, UM, IF NECESSARY.

HOW MANY GUARDS ARE THERE CURRENTLY? 38 RIGHT NOW.

38.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S CITYWIDE? YES, CITYWIDE.

OKAY.

IF YOU, I KNOW WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING

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UP YEAH.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE STAFF.

YEAH.

IF WE CHOOSE TO APPROVE ALL OF THESE THINGS, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH GUARDS ON DUTY TO, TO APPOINT THE GUARDS QUICKLY OR DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO, THROUGH A HIRING PROCESS TO DO SO? WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO HIRE, BUT I CAN SHIFT AND MOVE FOLKS AROUND.

OKAY.

AND DOES THIS COMMITTEE, IT'S ONLY ABOUT SCHOOL GUARDS OR IS IT ALSO INCLUDE LIKE SIGNAGE OR OTHER CROSSWALK SAFETY OF OR SURROUNDING SCHOOLS ZONES? SURE.

SO, UH, I'M SURE WE CAN WORK THAT OUT, UM, AT FUTURE MEETINGS FOR AGENDAS, ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT OTHER, UM, CAPACITIES AND REQUIREMENTS OR, OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THIS COMMITTEE.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE UHHUH, UM, AND THINGS THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO RESPOND TO.

MM-HMM.

, UM, THOSE ARE, AGAIN, FAIRLY NARROWLY DEFINED AS THE LOCATIONS WHERE SCHOOL GUARDS CAN BE ASSIGNED.

BUT YEAH, AS THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, I WOULD TOTALLY WELCOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP ABOUT JUST GENERAL PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS WELL.

UM, AGAIN, TO INFORM MY STAFF, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR THAT TO BE RELAYED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FORMALLY FROM THIS BODY.

BUT, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK ON MY END, UM, WITHIN CITY HALL TO GENERATE REPORTS FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO THEN INFORM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE FUNDING FOR CROSS CROSSING GUARDS COMES FROM THE CITY.

WHAT DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC? YEAH, SO THEY'RE EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

UM, PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD BEEN EMPLOYEES OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT.

BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN OUR GROUP NOW.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY, WAS YOUR NAME MEMBER POTTER? YES.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? SAY NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS JUST RECEIVE AND FILING THE REPORT.

YEAH.

AND SO, UH, MEMBER LUKI? YEAH.

UH, YES.

MEMBER POTTER.

YES.

MEMBER MAORI.

YES.

MEMBER ELY.

YES.

MEMBER CASTILLO.

YES.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK.

YES.

MEMBER VAN D**E? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH A REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMITTEE AND OR SET NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.

CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO HEAR THE ITEM? SO MOVE VANDYKE AND THE SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

DID YOU WANT ME TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION OR DO YOU WANNA KIND OF START IT OFF? UM, FOR, YOU MEAN ITEM SIX OR, UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON ITEM FIVE TO ESTABLISH A MEETING SCHEDULE.

DID YOU WANT THEM TO JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT OR WHAT, DID YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS? YEAH.

UM, DID YOU WANT WE WANNA MEET IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER-ISH.

SO, YEAH, I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN CERTAINLY CONVENING BEFORE THE END OF EACH SEMESTER.

UM, SO IF THERE IS AN URGENT NEED TO COLLECT DATA, UM, THAT WE CAN DO SO WHILE CLASS IS STILL IN SESSION, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UM, LIKE DISCUSSED, WE HAVE TO OBSERVE 20 STUDENTS CROSSING BEFORE WE CAN PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION.

UM, SO, UH, YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY RUSH TO TRY AND CATCH UP ON SOMETHING THAT'S URGENT BEFORE THE NEXT SEMESTER, WE'D WANT TO BE HOLDING THESE MEETINGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY STILL WALKING TO SCHOOL.

SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK MAY, UM, IS IN THAT SWEET SPOT HERE.

UM, JUST PRIOR TO THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, I'M HOPEFULLY COUNTING ON THE FACT THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO GET INTO A RHYTHM TO BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE, UM, REQUESTS WELL IN ADVANCE OF THESE MEETINGS.

BUT IN THE, AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE WE DO WANT TO ADD SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TO STUDY, UM, WE CAN STILL DO SO.

SO YEAH, I WOULD PERSONALLY RECOMMEND THAT WE CONVENE AT LEAST IN MAY AND THEN OCTOBER OF EACH YEAR, BECAUSE THE HOLIDAYS ARE A PARTICULARLY BUSY TIME AND TRAVEL PATTERNS CAN BE SOMEWHAT DISRUPTED THEN.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO TOUGH TO MAKE TIME ON THE CALENDAR, UH, TO MEET IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, JUST PROPOSING THAT AND OPEN TO MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TIMES WOULD WORK BEST.

SO AM I HEARING QUARTERLY OR AM I HEARING JUST TWO MEETINGS? JUST TWO, YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST TWO MEETINGS.

YEAH.

MAY AND OCTOBER.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

JUST WORKING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW,

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NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

YEAH.

IT'S, UH, ROLL THE ICE .

MM-HMM.

, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO BE SPECIFICALLY DEFINING TIME OF DAY FOR THIS OR ARE WE, HAVE WE SATISFIED THAT BY SAYING SOMETIME IN MAY AND OCTOBER? SO AS THE ITEM IS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST A RECEIVE AND FILE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT? SURE.

IF WE WANNA BE MORE SPECIFIC, WE CAN ADD LIKE A FRIENDLY TO THAT AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

AND, AND ADD IN.

UM, SO IT'D BE LIKE THROUGH RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING THE MONTHS OF MAY AND OCTOBER.

AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO BE AS SPECIFIC TO SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE O'CLOCK ON A THURSDAY, EVERY THIRD THURSDAY, LIKE YOU CAN PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION OR YOU CAN LEAVE IT.

AND, UM, IF WE LEAVE IT OPEN THOUGH, THEN WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY YEAH.

TO MEET PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU, YOU ARE THE MAKER OF THE MOTION TOO.

SO, UM, JUST MAKING SURE IF YOU ARE GONNA ADD SOMETHING THAT WHOEVER SECOND DID THE MOTION AGREES WITH YOU BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, WHICH IS I HAVE COMMISSIONER BROWN SHOCK AS A SECOND.

OKAY.

SO THEN THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE CONVENE IN MAY AND OCTOBER OF EACH YEAR, UM, SPECIFIC TIME AND DAY TO BE, UH, AGREED UPON BY THE COMMITTEE.

UH, YES.

IS THIS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN? SURE IS.

IT'S RIGHT HERE.

I AM GONNA SHOW FOR THE RECORD THAT, UM, MEMBER JUAN IS NOT PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, WE ARE ON ITEM FIVE AND WE ARE ABOUT TO TAKE A VOTE TO ESTABLISH THE REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, TO CONVENE ON MAY, IN MAY AND OCTOBER ON EACH, ON EACH YEAR.

AND TO DETERMINE SPECIFIC DAY AND TIME, UH, AS, AS NEEDED OR, SURE.

OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

UH, MEMBER LUKI.

YES.

MEMBER POTTER.

YES.

MEMBER MOWRY.

YES.

MEMBER ELEY.

YES.

MEMBER GUAN.

YEP.

MEMBER CASTILLO.

YES.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK.

YES.

MEMBER VAN D**E.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES FOR ITEM SIX RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING INTERSECTIONS TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF EXISTING CROSSING GUARD LOCATIONS.

CLARK AND RELIA AT MARK TWAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, PALO VERDE AND V UH, WILLOW STREET AT EMERSON PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION AND A SECOND? SECOND.

VAN D**E.

OKAY.

DOES STAFF HAVE A PRESENTATION? UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, A WARRANT ANALYSIS, UH, PREPARED BY MY STAFF THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, WHERE WE HAVE, UM, A TABLE HERE, UH, THAT ESSENTIALLY TRIES TO CAPTURE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE IN THAT INTRODUCTORY PRESENTATION ABOUT SATISFYING THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS OCCUPYING THE CROSSWALK, AS WELL AS, UH, DEPENDENT UPON WHAT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC CONTROLS ARE, UH, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, UM, AND THE FREQUENCY OF THOSE VEHICLES.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE HERE IS AT MARK TWAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT THE LOCATION BEING CLARK AVENUE AND CENTRA STREET.

UM, SO JUST NORTH OF LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE'S LIBERAL ARTS CAMPUS, KIND OF BETWEEN THERE AND THE LAKEWOOD MALL.

UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THE WARRANT CHECKLIST, UM, THAT YES, IT IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

UM, THE STUDENTS ARE WITHIN THE EXISTING CROSSWALK IN A SCHOOL ZONE.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 20 SCHOOL CHILDREN PER HOUR.

UM, THE PEAK 15 MINUTE SUM OF TURNING VEHICLES THROUGH THE CROSSWALK IS 221, UM, WHICH WAS MORE THAN THE 10 VEHICLES PER MINUTE STANDARD.

SO, UH, THIS DOES MEET THE WARRANT.

UM, THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT THOSE DETAILS.

UM, HAPPY TO, UM, FURTHER DISCUSS IF NECESSARY.

UM, BUT I'LL ALSO JUST MOVE ON TO, UM, THE NEXT INTERSECTION, UH, WHICH ALSO, UM, MEETS THOSE WARRANTS, WHICH IS AT EMERSON PARKSIDE ACADEMY AT PALO VERDE AND

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WILLOW STREET, UM, WHICH IS IN EAST LONG BEACH, UM, JUST NORTH OF THE 4 0 5, UH, AT THAT LOCATION.

UH, SIMILARLY, UH, WE HAVE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROLLING THE INTERSECTION NEAR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITHIN AN EXISTING CROSSWALK SCHOOL ZONE WITH MORE THAN 20 SCHOOL CHILDREN PER HOUR, UH, AGAIN, IN EXCESS OF 200 VEHICLES, UH, IN THAT 15 MINUTE SUM, UH, WHICH EXCEEDS THE 10 VEHICLES PER MINUTE REQUIREMENT, AND THUS ALSO MEETS THE WARRANTS, UH, TO BE APPROVED FOR, UM, A SCHOOL GUARD, UH, BEING PLACED AT THE LOCATION.

UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION ALSO EXISTS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT'S THE SUMMARY FOR, UM, THIS ITEM NUMBER SIX.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE REPORTS, UM, WHAT GOES INTO THE REPORT, HOW WE COLLECT, UH, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, OR IF IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, UM, WE WANNA JUST MOVE AHEAD AND APPROVE, THAT'S FINE TOO.

YES.

DOES THE SCHOOL ITSELF ASK FOR THIS TRAFFIC STUDY? SO, UH, MAYBE JOSE OR RYAN CAN CHIME IN ABOUT WHERE THESE REQUESTS COME FROM, BUT, UM, YEAH, GENERALLY, UM, WE WILL RECEIVE THESE REQUESTS FROM ANY PARTY.

UM, WE HAVE ALSO ESTABLISHED WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS A, A TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM.

THIS IS ALSO DATA-DRIVEN LIKE THIS, WHERE IF FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, SPEEDING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'LL GO OUT AND COLLECT TRAFFIC.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE MECHANISMS ALREADY IN PLACE, UM, AND BUDGETED.

SO, UM, IT, IT'S NOT TOO ONEROUS FOR US TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION.

SO, UH, IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, IF SOMEONE NOTIFIES US OF, YOU KNOW, IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THEY CALL IT HAZARDOUS, RIGHT? IF SOMEONE NOTIFIES US OF THAT TYPE OF CONDITION, WE WILL, UM, RESPOND AND EVALUATE IT.

SO IT CAN COME FROM THE SCHOOL ITSELF, IT CAN COME FROM A CONCERNED PARENT, UM, WHEREVER IT COMES FROM, WE, WE WILL DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND TRY TO QUANTIFY WHAT'S HAPPENING.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

SEE, NOW WE CAN VOTE TO, UH, RECEIVE AND FILE THIS ITEM.

WE HAD A MOTION MADE BY MEMBER BROWN SHOCK AND A SECOND BY VAN .

UM, MEMBER LUKI? YES.

MEMBER POTTER? YES.

MEMBER MALLORY.

AYE.

MEMBER E YES.

MEMBER JUAN? UH, YES.

MEMBER CASTILLO? YES.

MEMBER BROWN SHOCK.

YES.

MEMBER VANDY.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

AND ITEM SEVEN, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING INTERSECTIONS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST OF EXISTING CROSSING GUARDS.

LOCATION, ORANGE AND PHILLIPS FOR BRETT HART ELEMENTARY AND 17TH STREET, AND GUNDRY FOR WHITTIER ELEMENTARY.

ALRIGHT.

CAN I GET A MOTION? VAN D**E? OKAY.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO IN THESE REPORTS, UH, WE'RE USING THE SAME CHECKLIST, THE SAME WARRANT STUDY AGAIN, UH, DOING OUR BEST TO COMPLY, UH, WITH WHAT'S IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE ABOUT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR ASSIGNING SCHOOL GUARDS TO CERTAIN LOCATIONS.

UM, SO WE'LL START WITH, UH, THE BRETT HART, UM, ELEMENTARY LOCATIONS.

SO THAT IS ON ORANGE AVENUE AT PHILLIPS STREET.

UH, THIS ONE WAS FLAGGED AS, UM, IT IS A STOP CONTROLLED CROSSING, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE FOUR OR MORE LANES.

SO, UH, AGAIN, IN THAT INTRODUCTORY, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, THE, THE CODE ASSUMES A MEASURE OF SAFETY BASED ON SPECIFIC TRAFFIC CONTROLS.

SO, UM, IF THIS WERE AN INTERSECTION THAT DID NOT HAVE A STOP SIGN, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, UH, THE WARRANTS TO BE MET ARE DIFFERENT.

BUT UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING STOP CONTROL, UM, WHERE THE, THE CROSSING DOES NOT CONSIST, UM, OF FOUR OR MORE LANES, IT THEREFORE DOES NOT MEET, UM, THE WARRANTS FOR A SCHOOL GUARD.

SO WE DO RECOMMEND THAT THIS LOCATION, UM, BE REMOVED FROM THE ELIGIBLE LIST BECAUSE IT DOES NOT COMPLY, UM, WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.

UM, HAVE THEY, THEN THEY, HOW LONG HAVE THEY PREVIOUSLY HAD A CROSSING GUARD THERE? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW IF, IF WE'VE HAD ONE THERE AGAIN, THIS, THIS, UM, EXERCISE IS TO IDENTIFY THE LIST OF LOCATIONS WHERE WE MAY, UM, IMPLEMENT.

OH, THOUGHT A SCHOOL GUARD THOUGHT WE DIDN'T LIKE THEY HAD ONE.

SURE.

YEAH.

SO I, I'LL, I'LL LET TINY REPORT UP AS TO WHETHER WE HAVE ONE STATIONED THERE.

WE DID, UM, BUT THERE WAS NO HARDLY

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ANY PEDESTRIANS CROSSING HERE.

OKAY.

SO I ASKED THEM TO EVALUATE THE LOCATION 'CAUSE I FELT LIKE THERE WAS MINIMAL STUDENTS USING IT.

OKAY.

SINCE IT IS, UM, MAYBE TWO LARGE BLOCKS FROM THE SCHOOL.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

HOW LONG HAS THE RRFB BEEN IN PLACE? THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

WE, WE'VE STARTED INSTALLING THOSE, THOSE LED FLASHING BEACONS AT CROSSWALKS, I THINK WITHIN THE LAST DECADE.

THAT'S, THAT'S A NEWER DEVICE.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS, THIS, UM, COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, UM, MANY OF THESE HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT BEACON, UM, YEAH, WAS ADDED, UH, DEFINITELY WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS.

SO THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS WHY WOULD AN RFB, SO IT'S A PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATED SIGNAL MM-HMM.

THAT GETS THAT BLINKS MM-HMM.

IF THAT WENT IN, DIDN'T WE HAVE PET VOLUMES AT SOME POINT? SO GENERALLY WE, WE'VE ALSO UPDATED, UM, OUR GUIDANCE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THOSE DEVICES.

UM, IN THE PAST, UM, ADMITTEDLY, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WERE OF THE MIND THAT, UM, CROSSWALKS COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, RESULT IN FOLKS JUST HAVING A LACKADAISICAL APPROACH TO CROSSING THE STREET.

RIGHT.

THEY CALL IT A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, WHERE, UM, THERE WAS AN ASSERTION THAT, WELL, IF THERE'S A CROSSWALK, PEOPLE WILL JUST WALK AND THEY COULD GET HIT BY A CAR BECAUSE THEY'LL JUST ASSUME THAT THEY'RE SAFE.

AS SOMEONE WHO REGULARLY CROSSES THE STREET, I CAN REPORT THAT THE PRESENCE OF A CROSSWALK DOESN'T CAUSE ME TO JUST WALK ACROSS.

SO WE'VE CHANGED SOME OF OUR GUIDELINES, UM, TO MORE LIBERALLY, UM, IMPLEMENT CROSSWALKS AROUND TOWN.

UM, AND AS A PART OF THAT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE SAFE.

AND SO, UM, IN PLACES WHERE WE HAVE, UM, HIGHER LEVELS OF TRAFFIC OR, UM, AND THE PRESENCE OF A MEDIAN, UM, WE WILL OFTEN, UM, RECOMMEND THAT EITHER THE, THE STRIPED MEDIAN BE REPLACED WITH SOMETHING THAT'S IN CONCRETE LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE WASHINGTON NEIGHBORHOOD ON, ON PACIFIC AVENUE, OR, UH, WE WILL SUPPLEMENT THAT CROSSING WITH A RAPID FLASHING BEACON.

SO, UH, I WILL SAY, UM, THAT THE THRESHOLDS FOR APPLYING THOSE BEACONS ARE IN SOME CASES LOWER THAN THRESHOLDS FOR APPLYING SCHOOL GUARD.

UM, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO, UM, DEPLOY MORE AND MORE OF THOSE RAPID FLASHING BEACONS, UM, AS WE GET MORE FUNDING FOR THEM, UM, TO SUPPLEMENT CROSSINGS, UM, THAT ARE GENERALLY MORE THAN TWO LANES.

HERE.

THE THRESHOLD IS WHAT IS IT'S MORE THAN FOUR LANES.

CORRECT.

SO, UM, THERE, THERE ARE CERTAINLY LOCATIONS AROUND TOWN WHERE WE'VE DETERMINED THAT, UM, THE AN RFB IS RECOMMENDED, BUT THAT, THAT THRESHOLD IS LOWER THAN WHAT, UM, THE VOTER INITIATIVE ESTABLISHED HERE FOR THE, THE PSAC.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

UM, SO IF WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THAT THE KIDS WEREN'T, THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH KIDS CROSSING WHERE THE CROSSING GUARD WAS.

PERHAPS THERE'S ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE THEY ARE CROSSING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

UM, I ALSO WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LIKE HIGH RISK CORRIDOR MAP.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND, AND LIKE THIS SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR, LIKE, THERE ARE SOME MAJOR HIGH RISK, HIGH INJURY CORRIDOR AREAS AROUND THERE, AND I KNOW THAT DOESN'T DIRECTLY RELATE TO THIS, BUT IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I, UM, AM JUST WONDERING IS, UM, THE A DT, THE, UM, THE, LIKE, WHERE IT SAYS TRAFFIC VOLUMES WERE NOT ACQUIRED DUE TO NOT MEETING THE PREVIOUS CRITERION.

SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR OR MORE LANES.

MM-HMM.

IS JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE FOUR OR MORE LANES, THEY'RE OUT.

IT'S OUT.

LIKE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED LIKE IT.

WHERE DOES IT COME INTO WHERE THERE'S LIKE, IT'S TWO LANES, BUT IT'S STILL HAZARDOUS.

DOES IT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE, I GUESS I'M, I GUESS I'M NOT, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH.

JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE FOUR LANES, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT HAZARDOUS, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.

AND IT JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THE PREVIOUS CRITERION THAT THIS NEXT MEASURE WASN'T, THE VOLUME PER HOUR OF CARS WASN'T MEASURED.

THAT'S PAGE TWO.

YEAH.

SO THAT, OKAY.

YEAH.

SO TINY'S POINTED OUT THAT THIS REQUIREMENT'S ON PAGE TWO OF THE YES.

OF THE PACKET THERE.

YEAH.

LETTER B MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITHIN KIND OF AN OLDER FRAMEWORK, RIGHT? THAT WAS, UH, DETERMINED WITH VERY

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SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AND I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THIS TYPE OF THING.

BUT THESE ARE THE RULES, UM, THAT ARE IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

UM, SO FOR A STOP SIGN CONTROLLED INTERSECTION, UM, YEAH.

THE UNDIVIDED ROADWAY OF FOUR OR MORE LANES EXCEEDS THE, SO THE, THE ORIGINAL PREMISE RIGHT, IS FOUR OR MORE LANES.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT SATISFYING.

SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING IT NO LONGER MEETS THE CITY'S CODE REQUIREMENT? RIGHT.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE YEAH, ORANGE AVENUE, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ROAD DIET PROJECTS THAT THE CITY CONDUCTED WHERE, UM, IT FORMERLY HAD FOUR LANES WITH NO CENTER TURN LANE.

UM, AND AT SOME POINT, I BELIEVE IN THE EIGHTIES, UM, THAT FOUR LANE CONFIGURATION WAS REPLACED WITH THE CONFIGURATION THAT YOU SEE NOW WHERE THERE'S THE CENTER TURN LANE, THERE'S AN A LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, AND THERE'S BIKE LANES.

UM, SO, UH, MY ASSUMPTION HERE IS THAT THIS WAS ADDED TO THE LIST AT THE ORIGIN OF THIS COMMITTEE, BUT WE'VE SINCE IMPLEMENTED TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, RENDERED THIS NONCOMPLIANT WITH, UM, WITH THESE STANDARDS.

SO ONE LAST QUESTION.

DO WE HAVE A SAY SO IN CHANGING THAT CODE? WHAT'S THAT? DO WE HAVE A, UH, SAY SO IN CHANGING THAT CODE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ASK WHAT WOULD GO INTO CHANGING THESE REQUIREMENTS? AGAIN, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS WAS, UM, A VOTER INITIATIVE, UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT COULD, I'M, I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO THIS IS ME HYPOTHESIZING.

I DON'T HAVE THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THINGS LIKE THAT IS THAT THEN IT HAS TO GO TO A CITYWIDE VOTE.

SO THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PROPOSITION ON THE BALLOT TO CHANGE THE RULES FOR THIS COMMITTEE, UM, TO ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH WHERE THE SCHOOL GUARDS ARE PLACED.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, COMMIT TO REPORTING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WITH, UM, UH, A REPORT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT HOW THESE RULES WERE DEFINED, HOW THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE MODIFIED.

YEAH.

'CAUSE TRAFFIC IN THE SEVENTIES IS NOT .

THAT'S TRUE.

AS IT'S NOW.

YES.

SO ORANGE AVENUE HAS A BIG PROJECT ON IT.

ORANGE AVENUE HAS A BIG PROJECT ON IT, I BELIEVE.

UM, AS WE, UM, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SEGMENT, WHICH IS CLOSER TO SOUTH STREET MM-HMM.

, UM, UH, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY.

UM, WHAT'S ENVISIONED FOR ORANGE IS, IS COMPLETED.

WE ALREADY HAVE A PARKING PROTECTED BIKE LANE IN THAT AREA.

UM, THE CITY IS, UM, WELL UNDERWAY WITH DESIGN FOR WHAT'S CALLED THE ORANGE AVENUE BACKBONE BIKE WAY, UM, WHICH IS MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT FACILITY MOSTLY AT INTERSECTIONS.

SO, UM, UH, AND WHEN I SAY INTERSECTIONS, I MEAN, UH, LIKE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS.

SO THE INTERSECTION AT SOUTH STREET IN ORANGE IS HAVING MORE, UM, CONCRETE MEDIANS PLACED, UM, TO FORCE SLOWER TURNS, UM, CREATE MORE SPACE FOR TRANSIT USERS.

UM, AND, AND THAT SHOULD, UH, AGAIN, PROVIDE ANOTHER MEASURE OF SAFETY AT THAT INTERSECTION AT SOUTH AND ORANGE AND HOPEFULLY, UM, RESULT IN LOWER VEHICLE SPEEDS ON THE LARGER CORRIDOR.

BUT YET YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

YES.

THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED FOR ORANGE AVENUE AND THE NARROW ROADWAY SHOULD SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, AND SO IT'LL BE SAFER THAN IT WAS WHEN THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED.

UH, YEAH, IN THEORY, UM, CERTAINLY WHAT WE'VE OBSERVED IN PUBLIC WORKS IS THAT WHEN YOU, YOU REMOVE A LANE THAT'S THE MOST, UM, EFFECTIVE WAY OF REDUCING VEHICLE SPEEDS.

UM, NARROWING LANES OR RECONFIGURING INTERSECTIONS DOES HAVE A BENEFIT, BUT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IS YEAH.

THE REMOVAL OF LANES.

SO, UM, YES, I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE WE'VE REMOVED A LANE ON ORANGE SINCE THIS WAS APPROVED, THAT, UM, THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS, UM, SHOULD BE DEMONSTRABLY SAFER.

OKAY.

UM, IF, IF THAT'S IT FOR THIS LOCATION, I CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN WITH ONE OTHER ONE.

SURE.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS NOT A, THE CROSSING GUARD WAS THERE AND IT'S A REMOVAL, LIKE WE, THIS IS A, THIS WOULD BE A NEW THING FOR THE SCHOOL, RIGHT? YEAH, CORRECT.

AND ALSO, RIGHT.

WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING UNDER THE FRAMEWORK OF THE CODE WHERE IF WE WERE ASSIGNING THE SCHOOL GUARD HERE, WE'D BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THAT CODE.

OKAY.

UM, AND IF THAT SCHOOL GUARD WAS THERE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE ASSIGNED TO ONE THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED, YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT? GOTCHA.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UM, SIMILARLY, UM, THE NEXT INTERSECTION, UM, IS FAILING ONE OF THOSE, UM, CRITERIA FOR A STOP SIGN CROSSING, UM, THE NUMBER OF LANES.

SO, UM, THIS IS ON GUNDRY AVENUE AT 17TH STREET AT WHITTIER ELEMENTARY

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SCHOOL.

UM, AND AGAIN, UM, IT'S A STOP CONTROLLED CROSSING WHERE WE DO NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF A CROSSING THAT CONSISTS OF FOUR OR MORE LANES.

SO, UM, SIMILARLY, UH, WE'RE ASKING, UM, FOR APPROVAL TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE LIST, UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE DESCRIPTION OF, UM, WHAT THE CODE CALLS A HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION.

IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, UM, ON THIS ONE, SHOULD WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE? OKAY.

UH, OKAY.

WE HAD A MOTION BY MEMBER VANDY AND SECOND BY BROWN SHAW.

UM, MEMBER LUKI.

YES.

MEMBER POTTER.

YES.

MEMBER MALLORY.

YES.

MEMBER ELEY.

YES.

MEMBER GU.

UH, YES.

MEMBER CASTILLO.

YES.

MEMBER BROWN SHOP.

YES.

MEMBER BROWN.

GREG.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO NON-AG AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD TO SPEAK ON THIS.

SEE, NONE, UH, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO IF ANY, UM, MEMBERS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR STAFF HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS, NOW IS THE TIME I, I'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

OKAY.

SO HERE, UH, WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN THINGS UP AND RUNNING.

WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE COMMITTEE, UM, I INTEND, UM, BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING IN OCTOBER, UH, TIME OF DATE TO BE DETERMINED, UM, TO HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ALL OF THE LOCATIONS, UM, AND THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT EXIST AT THOSE.

UM, AND SO WE'LL BE OUT, UM, COUNTING, UM, THE CROSSINGS AND THE VEHICLES THROUGHOUT THE FALL SEMESTER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK IN OCTOBER.

UH, IF YOU, UM, IN, IN YOUR CAPACITY HERE, UH, HAVE IDENTIFIED ANY OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE SHOULD INVESTIGATE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHOOT ME AN EMAIL OR, UM, OR TO TINY AS WELL.

UM, AND WE CAN ADD THOSE TO OUR LIST FOR REVIEW.

BUT, UH, THE INTENT HERE IS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, ARE TRANSPARENT, UM, IN OUR DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS, UM, AND THAT WE HAVE THESE TYPES OF REPORTS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR REVIEW.

UM, SO EXPECT THAT, UH, PRIOR TO THE OCTOBER MEETING TO HAVE A, A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OF THE CONDITIONS AT ALL OF THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE, UM, SCHOOL GUARDS.

SO ALSO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UM, CONCERNS, PEDESTRIAN RELATED, RIGHT? YOU'D ASKED ABOUT, UM, OUR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS AND OUR CROSSWALK CROSSWALK EVALUATIONS.

I'M HAPPY TO REPORT ON THOSE AS WELL.

UM, YEAH.

UH, ANY CONTENT YOU'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT INFORMING YOURSELVES ON FROM, FROM PUBLIC WORKS, HAPPY TO PRESENT ON THAT.

SO, CAN WE ASK FOR AGENDA ITEMS AS WELL FOR NEXT TIME? UH, I, I, UNDER THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SECTION, IT'S MORE OF A LIKE REPORT OUT.

IT CAN'T REALLY TURN INTO A DIALOGUE 'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT.

OKAY.

IF YOU, UM, IF WE'D LIKE TO CREATE AN ITEM, UM, OR I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD ONE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE DISCUSSION ON UPCOMING TOPICS, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN HAVE MORE OF A DISCUSSION.

UM, SO NO, NOT REALLY.

UM, OFFLINE, IF YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO THE CHAIR, UM, AND SUGGEST SOME ITEMS, YOU CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

UH, BUDDY, BIG ORANGE AVENUE PROJECT, HOW IS THE CITY INTERACTING WITH SIGNAL HILL? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN JOHN NEW CROSSES OVER INTO THEIR DOMAIN.

SO THAT PROJECT, UM, WAS FUNDED THROUGH, UM, A STATE GRANT OPPORTUNITY AGENDA, ICE.

THIS REALLY, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO LET'S KEEP IT MORE ANNOUNCEMENT AND OFFITE OFFLINE IF YOU WANNA ASK A QUESTION, YOU CAN, OTHERWISE WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.

I'M SORRY TO DO THAT, BUT YEAH.

I DON'T WANNA SAY THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN AGENDIZED AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WEREN'T AWARE THAT THIS DISCUSSION WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

SURE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO REALLY STICK TO WHAT'S ON THE SCRIPT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YOU'RE GOOD.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALRIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

UM, IF THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, WE CAN MOVE THAT UP.

SO MOVE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

SO AT THREE 50 THE MEETING WAS.