[00:00:01]
GO, I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE AT TWO 30, SO, UM, IT'S TWO 30 AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER FOR JUNE 6TH, 2024.I KNOW THIS IS A, A REPLACEMENT MEETING WHEN WE FAILED TO GET A QUORUM, SO THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
AND WITH THAT, I KNOW IT'S AN EXCITING DAY 'CAUSE WE HAVE NEW MEMBER JOINING US.
SO WE WILL START BY CALLING THE ROLE MEMBER ELEY.
AND DO WE KNOW WHETHER THE, UH, SO THE, WHETHER THE ABSENCES ARE EXCUSED.
I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE NEW MEMBERS WHO MAYBE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY STARTED OR DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE ADDED TODAY.
OKAY, SO THOSE WHO WERE NOT HERE HAVE EXCUSED ABSENCES.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY, MARCH 21ST, 2024.
CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? SO MOVE SECOND.
SO WE HAVE MOTION BY MEMBER RICHIE.
AND ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM? GOOD TO ME.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS? COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UH, WE WILL, WE'RE DOING A ROLL CALL VOTE ON EVERY ACTION ITEM.
THEN WE WILL REQUEST A CALL THE ROLL.
APPROVE MEMBER YOUNG VICE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATIONS.
CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? SO MOVED.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER KINS AND SECONDED BY MEMBER BARRETT.
AND IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION OR REPORT ON THIS ITEM? YES.
UM, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS TO THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, CLIFF ELEY, WHO I UNDERSTAND MIGHT STILL BE ON HIS WAY.
AND STEVIE ANDERSON WHO COULDN'T JOIN US TODAY, BUT SHE IS, YOU KNOW, READY TO JOIN US FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO, UM, THEY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT COMPLETED WHATEVER THE OFFICIAL ONBOARDING PROCESS WILL BE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM ON AND THEN YOU ALL WILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TOGETHER WHEN WE DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS.
SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT AND THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THAT.
UM, AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL MY UPDATE ON, ON OUR NEW MEMBERS.
UM, AND MY SECOND ITEM OF BUSINESS IS AN UPDATE ON THE GOLF HALL OF FAME.
AND FOR THAT, UM, BOB LIVINGSTON WOULDN'T MIND SAYING A FEW WORDS.
UM, OUR, UH, LONG BEACH GOLF HALL OF FAME COMMITTEE MET IN APRIL, AND WE, UH, RECOMMENDED THREE NAMES TO THE DIRECTOR FOR INDUCTION INTO THE LONG BEACH GOLF HALL OF FAME THIS YEAR, AND HE APPROVED THOSE.
LARRY WAS BORN IN LONG BEACH, UH, WENT TO MILLIKEN HIGH SCHOOL, WAS ON THE TEAM THAT WON THE 1963 CIF SECTION CHAMPIONSHIP.
UH, HE WON, UM, SOME EVENTS AS A CLUB PRO.
HE WAS THE HEAD PROFESSIONAL AT HARTWELL AND EL DORADO BEFORE AMERICAN GOLF CAME IN AND THEN WENT UP AND BECAME THE HEAD PRO AT, UM, WOODLEY AND BALBOA AND THEN BECAME A VICE PRESIDENT OF CLUB COURT OF AMERICA.
SO DID A LOT IN THE GAME OF GOLF.
SECOND IS JEFF EVANS, WHO WAS THE GOLF COACH AT WILSON HIGH SCHOOL FOR
[00:05:01]
PROBABLY 14 TO 17 YEARS.UH, WON THE BOYS CHAMPIONSHIP, I THINK ALL THE ONE OF THOSE YEARS, WON THE GIRLS CHAMPIONSHIP EVERY YEAR.
HE WAS COACH, ALSO VERY ACTIVE AS A VOLUNTEER IN LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL.
AND THE THIRD WAS BRETT LETTERER, WHO WAS BORN IN LONG BEACH.
UM, BUT GREW UP IN, UH, LAKEWOOD.
WAS VERY ACTIVE IN THE LONG BEACH JUNIOR PROGRAM AT HARTWELL.
ONE OF THE RED SHIRTS, UM, WENT TO LONG BEACH STATE, WAS A THREE TIME ALL BIG WEST.
HE WON THE BIG WEST CONFERENCE.
HE WAS A TWO TIME WINNER OF THE LONG BEACH MEN'S CITY STROKE PLAY CHAMPIONSHIP AND IS NOW, UH, AN INSTRUCTOR AT VIRGINIA COUNTRY CLUB.
AND HIS, UH, TOP STUDENT IS LILIA VU, WHO WON THE US WOMEN'S OPEN AND BRITISH SHOW, OR WHATEVER THEIR TITLE OF THAT IS LAST YEAR.
AND HELPS JAMIE MULLIGAN WITH NELLY CORDA.
SO THOSE WILL BE OUR THREE INDUCTEES.
WE'LL HAVE THE CEREMONY RIGHT AFTER THE LONG BEACH OPEN CONCLUDES WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE, UH, FIGURING OUT THE PAYOUTS AND EVERYTHING WE DO OUR INDUCTION CEREMONY.
UM, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND ANY DISCUSSION, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DATE? WHAT, WHAT WAS THE DATE FOR THE LONG BEACH OPEN? AUGUST 4TH.
UM, MR. ELEY, I HAVE YOU SET UP FROM THERE.
CAN WE INDICATE THAT, DO WE NEED TO STATE ANYTHING ON THE RECORD OR NO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INDICATE THAT IN THE MINUTES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THANKS FOR JOINING US AND WELCOME TO THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO AND WE JUST, WE JUST RECEIVED THE, UH, GOLF OPERATIONS UPDATES AND, UM, WE, WE HEARD ABOUT THE NEW MEMBERS AND WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE THREE INDUCTEES TO THE LONG BEACH GOLF HALL OF FAME.
AND THAT INDUCTEE THERE, I GUESS THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE INDUCTED ON AUGUST 4TH AT THE END OF THE LONG BEACH OPEN.
SO WHY WOULD WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS? 'CAUSE IT'S AN ORAL REPORT.
JUST CURIOUS, DO WE NEED THE MOTION STILL? MOTION AND, OKAY.
IT WAS MOTION AND SECONDED AFTER THE ITEM WAS INTRODUCED.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN ELEVATED TO SOME DEGREE AND THERE'S A, A MUCH MORE FORMAL PROCESS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE, UM, FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOL OR AS CLOSE TO IT AS, AS POSSIBLE, I HOPE IN THIS MEETING.
SO,
APPROVED MEMBER YOUNG VICE CHAIR FITZGERALD.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES ON THE COURSES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS. AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? I MOVE SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MEMBER BARRETT.
AND IS THERE A STAFF REPORTER PRESENTATION BEFORE WE HAND IT OVER TO AMERICAN GOLF? NO.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I THOUGHT YOU WANTED IT TO COME AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT BASED ON THIS.
WE HOLD THE PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. LIVINGSTON.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT IS, WELL, MAY IS OVER.
UM, AND, UH, THE GRASS IS GROWING FASTER THAN IT EVER HAS WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAINS WE GOT THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT THE COURSES ARE ALL IN GOOD SHAPE.
UM, WE STARTED AMBASSADOR FUNDRAISING, UM, BACK IN MAY FOR FOLDS OF HONOR.
UM, WE'RE STILL TALLYING UP THOSE NUMBERS FOR ALL OF LONG BEACH.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND SEVEN OR $8,000 RAISED IN LONG BEACH FOR FOLDS OF HONOR.
[00:10:02]
AND, UH, WE ALSO CONCLUDED THE LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL MATCH PLAY AT SKY LINKS THIS YEAR.UM, BRYSON BARNES WON, UH, I THINK HE WAS SEVEN UNDER ON HIS FINAL DAY.
SEVEN UNDER WHO S WON BO UM, WON ON THE 19TH HOLE.
UM, 18-YEAR-OLD GRADUATING FROM WILSON THIS YEAR.
UM, JOHNNY SAUNDERS, UH, TOOK RUNNER UP.
UH, SO BRYSON WILL BE ONE OF OUR AMATEURS IN THE LONG BEACH OPEN COMING UP.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR HIM ON SUNDAY THE FOURTH AS WELL.
WE'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 50 PLAYERS RIGHT NOW, UH, COMBINED FOR BOTH OF 'EM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.
UM, IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR WHERE WE HAD TO CANCEL IT.
UM, THE JUNIORS ARE SITTING AT ABOUT 32 PLAYERS RIGHT NOW AND THE MEN CITY CHAMPIONSHIP IN JULY.
I IMAGINE IT'LL BE SOLD OUT PROBABLY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.
UM, SO, UH, FESTIVAL'S LOOKING GOOD AS WELL, UM, FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WE'RE FINISHING UP THE ROOF AT SKYLING RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDING THE GUTTERS HERE SOON.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE OUT THAT PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVE THE ROOF ON THE BATHROOMS AT HARTWELL COLLAPSED DURING THE LAST RAIN.
UH, SO WE'VE GOT THAT PROJECT IN THE LRE.
THE AIR CONDITIONING AT REC 18 IS BEING APPROVED AS WELL AS THE TREE THAT FELL IN THE MAINTENANCE YARD AT REC 18.
UM, THAT'S JUST GONNA BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPAIR THE BUILDING THERE.
UM, AND THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT AND OPEN RIGHT NOW.
LAURIE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TO GET, UM, ALL THE ACCOUNTS, UM, SOLIDIFIED, IF YOU WILL, BALANCED AND GET THINGS REIMBURSED FROM 2023.
I THINK WE GOT, I THINK WE GOT 'EM ALL IN FOR THOSE TWO YEARS.
UM, I THINK I'VE GOT ONE OR TWO MORE I HAVE TO WORK ON.
UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ROLLING RIGHT ALONG.
WHAT WAS THE DATE FOR THE WOMEN'S CHAMPION? IT IS JUNE 18TH, JUNE 18 AT RECREATION PARK.
AND JUNE 19TH AT SKY LINKS IN AND THE CITY CHAMPIONSHIP.
SORRY, YOU KNOW THE DATES OFFHAND.
I WANNA SAY IT'S 13TH, 14TH, AND 15TH.
IS THERE AN EXPLANATION THAT YOU HAVE FOR WHY THE PARTICIPATION HAS GONE UP OTHER THAN JUST PARTICIPATION LEVELS ARE AT RECORD HIGHS OR WAS THERE MORE MARKETING INVOLVED OR WHY HAVE YOU SEEN, DO YOU THINK, SUCH A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN REGISTRATION? THE ONLY REGISTRATION THAT'S, THAT'S INCREASED WOULD BE THE LADIES.
UM, THEY DID NOT HAVE A VERY BIG FOLLOWING LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE HAD EIGHT OR NINE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP FOR, FOR BOTH OF THEM.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE DID THE SAME THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
WE PUT IT OUT TO THE LADIES CLUBS.
UM, AND WE'VE JUST GOTTEN A LOT MORE FEEDBACK FROM THIS YEAR.
I THINK THEY WERE MAD THAT THEY DIDN'T GET TO PLAY LAST YEAR.
SO I THINK THEY SIGNED UP THIS YEAR, UM, IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO HAVE IT.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GONE UP.
WE CAPPED THE TOURNAMENTS THIS YEAR AT 104 SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE 1216 HOUR DAYS FOR VOLUNTEERS.
UM, AND GOING UP IN PRICE DOWN IN NUMBER OF PLAYERS AND UP IN THE PRICE POOL HAS, HAS BEEN A BIG DRAW.
SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE FILLED UP THIS YEAR SO FAR.
ARE WE KEEPING AN EYE AFTER THE U EUCALYPTUS TREES LIKE THE ONE THAT FELL AT REC PARK? AND SO WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE EUCALYPTUS TREES.
WE'VE GOT A, UM, AN ARBORIST COMING IN FOR THE TREE OUTSIDE OF REC NINE PRO SHOP.
UH, WE HAD A LARGE BRANCH FALL OFF THAT TREE.
SO WE HAVE TO GET, SINCE NOW WE'RE IN BIRD NESTING SEASON, WE CAN'T TRIM TREES, UM, UNLESS SOMETHING FALLS.
UM, BUT IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, I THINK THAT TREE IS VERY DANGEROUS.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GET THIS SCIENTIST TO COME OUT AND TELL US IF IT'S DEAD OR ALIVE ON THE INSIDE.
UM, IMPOSES A THREAT AND IF IT IS, WE'LL BE TAKING THAT ONE OUT.
UM, THE REST OF THEM SEEM TO BE OKAY.
SO, AND THE ONE THAT FELL IN THE MAINTENANCE YARD, BUT I THINK THAT WAS MORE WIND DRIVEN.
'CAUSE NORMALLY THEY JUST SHEAR AND DROPPED BRANCHES.
THIS ONE ACTUALLY JUST TOPPLED OVER WITH THE WIND.
SO QUESTION, UM, AT WRECK ON THE 14TH AND 15TH HOLE IS A TREE THAT'S JUST, WELL, IT'S LIKE HALF CUT IN HALF.
IS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THAT FALLING OVER? WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT FALLING OVER.
BUT WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING OUT.
IT DOES PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION, SO IT'S NOT REALLY A HIGH PRIORITY, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT.
'CAUSE THE OTHER TREE, I WAS THERE WHEN THAT OTHER TREE FELL ON THE, UH, MAINTENANCE SHED AND IT LOOKED, IT LOOKED HEALTHY AND IT LITERALLY WENT, EH, LIKE THAT.
SO THAT TREE LOOKS LIKE THE ONE THAT ALREADY FELL.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK UP, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE INNER PARTS OF THE TREE WILL DIE FIRST.
AND YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL UNTIL YOU TRIM IT HOW DEAD IT IS.
SO THAT'S WHY THE SCIENTIST IS COMING OUT TO OKAY.
[00:15:01]
TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL.I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING SO MANY CALLS ABOUT THIS, BUT DO YOU HAVE A SENSE, ARE YOU GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RESERVATION SYSTEM AND HOW IT'S FUNCTIONING? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT SOME HAVE BEEN MANIPULATING THE SYSTEM OR, YOU KNOW, A SECONDARY MARKET THAT THAT HAS COME UP IN MANY OTHER MUNICIPAL SYSTEMS. SO IS THEY TALKING ABOUT BROKERS? IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN MANAGING, DEALING WITH HEARING ABOUT? WE ARE MANAGING IT.
UM, WE ARE LUCKY IN THE SENSE THAT THE LONG BEACH RESIDENTS FILL UP MOST OF THE PRIME TIME TEE TIMES EIGHT DAYS OUT.
UM, AND THE BROKERS START BOOKING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE OTHER COURSES WHENEVER THEY CAN.
OUR PRIME TIME RATES ARE USUALLY ALREADY TAKEN.
UM, AND THEN AS SOON AS NON-RESIDENTS CAN GET ON THE NEXT DAY, WE'RE VERY, VERY FULL.
UM, SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE SEEING IN LA AND SELLING TEE TIMES IN THE PARKING LOT AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE JUST HAVE NOT RUN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES.
THE ONLY ISSUES WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING INTO NOW IN LONG BEACH, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, OUR CORPORATE OFFICE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT SOLUTION IS ARE NO-SHOWS FOR GOLF.
NOW WE HAVE TEE TIMES THAT DON'T SHOW UP FOR GOLF NOW.
WE USED TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE THEM NOW THE WHOLE CHARGING ASPECT.
GOLF NOW PUT NEW RESTRICTIONS ON HOW YOU CHARGE THEM.
NOW THE CHARGE WOULD PHYSICALLY COME FROM AMERICAN GOLF INSTEAD OF CHARGING GOLF NOW WE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CHARGE THEM.
SO THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT ALL THE CHARGEBACKS, WHICH ARE USUALLY DEAD IN THE WATER TO TRY AND GET A CHARGEBACK REVERSED.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER WAY TO CHARGE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT NOHOW ON GOLF NOW.
THAT'S OUR BIGGEST HICCUP RIGHT NOW.
HOW MANY TEE TIMES DO YOU GIVE TO GOLF NOW EACH DAY? UM, THEY'LL USUALLY BOOK 72 TO 48 HOURS OUT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OPEN.
SO IF SOMEBODY CANCELS BEFORE THE 48 HOURS, SOMETIMES THEY'LL GET BOOKED FOR GOLF NOW ON A SATURDAY MORNING, THERE'S NO DISCOUNTS ON THERE, WHICH, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME IF THEY BOOK ON GOLF NOW.
AS LONG AS THEY SHOW UP AND 75% OF THE TIME THEY DO.
BUT WHEN THEY DON'T, WE LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE 'EM AND WE JUST CAN'T.
HOW MANY TIMES WOULD YOU SAY GOLF NOW BOOKS FOR YOU OR FOR THE CITY IN THAT MONTH? OH, IN A MONTH OR IN A WEEK, WHATEVER.
WELL, IN A MONTH I'D PROBABLY SAY THREE TO 4,000 ROUNDS THAT THEY BOOKED FOR YOU? YEAH, IF I HAD TO, IF I HAD TO PUT A GOOD GUESS ON IT.
WE GET A LOT OF 'EM, A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS, A LOT OF TWOSOMES AND THEN A FEW FOURSOMES HERE ON THE WEEKENDS AT EACH COURSE.
BUT LIKE I SAID, 85% OF THE TIME THEY SHOW UP AND IT'S JUST THE ONES WHEN THEY DON'T, WE'RE JUST HAVING AN ISSUE WITH.
SO IT'S A BIG NUMBER THAT YOU COULDN'T JUST SAY, OKAY, WELL IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE NO-SHOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH YOU.
WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF, UH, DRIVE SHACK.
AND, UM, RORY MCELROY IS THEIR SPONSOR OF DRIVE SHACK.
HE'S IN WITH CBS AND NBC AND GOLF NOW AS PART OF ALL OF THAT.
SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO KEEP HIM.
AND THEY DO, THEY DO FILL UP OUR T SHEET TOO.
THAT'S THE SELLING POINT OF GOLF NOW IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO CANCEL IT, YOU CAN CANCEL IT.
THAT'S ONE OF THEIR SELLING POINTS.
BUT IF YOU CANCEL A DAY OF, SAY YOU BOOKED ON GOLF NOW AS A SINGLE AND YOU'RE THEIR VIP MEMBER, HE BOOKS FOR THE $93 RATE.
IF HE CANCEL THE SAME DAY, I, I TELL GOLF NOW, HE DIDN'T SHOW UP.
GOLF NOW CHARGES HIM, AND THEN THE SHOW, THE CHARGE COMES FROM GOLF NOW AS A NO-SHOW FOR NOT PLAYING GOLF.
IF YOU'RE A VIP MEMBER GOLF NOW EATS THAT CHARGE.
NOW IF GOLF NOW DOESN'T CHARGE THE GUEST, THAT'S ON THEM.
BUT NOW WE CHARGE THE GUEST DIRECTLY.
AND CORPORATE HASN'T GIVEN US THE GO AHEAD TO DO THAT YET.
BUT THAT'S JUST A, YOU DON'T USE GOLF NOW FOR POINT OF SALE? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN NO.
AMERICAN GOLF POINT OF SALE SYSTEM? NO.
THEY CHECK IN AND PAID FOR UP FOR THE RESERVATIONS EXCEPT FOR THOSE TIMES THAT YOU'VE SET ASIDE FOR TO BE, TO GO THROUGH THE GOLF NOW SYSTEM.
IF A IF A TEE TIME OPENS UP ON A THURSDAY FOR A SATURDAY, IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES IN GOLF NOW.
IT GOES ON ALL BOOKING ENGINES THAT GO THROUGH.
BUT IF IT BOOKS THAT LBC GOLF FIRST, THEN IT DISAPPEARS ON GOLF NOW.
IT WORKS THAT WAY AT NAVY TOO.
BECAUSE I GET EMAILS FROM NAVY, THESE, THESE THINGS ARE AVAILABLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GARY? OKAY.
AND THEN BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YEAH, I JUST WAS, UH, WAS THERE ANY ATTEMPT MADE AT GETTING INSURANCE FOR THE ROOF FOR THE TREE AT REC? SINCE THAT'S SUCH A BIG HIT TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, OUR INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLE IS $300,000.
SO IN ORDER FOR US TO CLAIM ON INSURANCE, IT'S GOTTA BE OVER THAT.
EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE SELF-INSURED.
[00:20:03]
IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES ANY COMMENT.AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT.
AND WITH THAT, UM, WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE ROLL CALL.
MEMBER YOUNG VICE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
AND WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE SUBCOMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS.
AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN ITEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MEMBER CONING AND A SECOND BY MEMBER BARRETT.
AND WITH THAT IS THERE STAFF PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? NO.
AND THEN, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, DID WE MEET, WE, THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES DID NOT MEET SINCE THE MARCH MEETING.
SO NO SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE MET SINCE OUR MARCH MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS? I I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, AS FAR AS, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE NEW MEMBERS AND THEN SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, AND I DON'T, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT COMES AFTER THIS MEETING, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FULL COMMITTEE ROSTER FOR EACH SUBCOMMITTEE BEFORE SEPTEMBER IN CASE.
ARE THERE ANY SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY SUPPOSED TO MEET BEFORE THAT, THAT MEETING? UH, I BELIEVE THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE.
DOES HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED? JULY 10TH, I THINK.
UM, WE'LL TALK MORE THE NEXT MEETING I THINK ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
UM, WE MAY MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO HOW THIS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE THOSE, WHETHER WE HAVE STANDING SUBCOMMITTEES OR NOT.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE'LL BE AN ACTION ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT THEN.
BUT, AND SINCE THAT'S THE MEETING, IT SOUNDS LIKE SORT OF THE BEGINNING OF THE TERM NOW WITH THIS NEW, UM, REVISED COMMITTEE STRUCTURE.
I MEAN, IT MAY NOT ALWAYS WORK THAT YOU GET YOUR EXACT REQUEST, BUT IT WILL BE AT THAT MEETING WHERE WE YES.
GET TO REQUEST A PARTICULAR MM-HMM.
AND SO WE WOULD GENERALLY CIRCULATE BEFOREHAND, UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE MEMBERSHIP.
SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHERE THERE'S HOLES AND WHERE, WHERE WE NEED A LITTLE HELP IF YOU HAVE INTEREST.
OH, IS IT IN THERE? SO WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY MET.
I HAVE IT ON MY CALENDAR FOR THE 11TH.
IS IT THE 10TH OR THE 11TH? I WONDER IF MY DAY'S WRONG.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE 11TH AS WELL.
YEAH, I HAVE IT ON MY CALENDAR.
I'M GONNA BE AT THE RIGHT SPACE THE RIGHT TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A REPORT, BUT I ASSUME WE'RE STILL GONNA FILE THE DISCUSSION, SO WE'LL STILL CALL THE RULE.
MEMBER YOUNG VICE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
SO MOVE WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MEMBER RICHIE, SECOND BY MEMBER CONING.
AND IS THERE A STAFF REPORT FOR THIS ITEM? UM, I SUPPOSE THERE IS, UM, UH, IN THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE, UM, EVERY COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN ANNUAL REPORT OF ITS ACTIVITIES OVER THE PRIOR YEAR.
UM, AND, UM, IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO
[00:25:01]
READ THROUGH THIS ONE THAT WAS DRAFTED.UM, THE, IN GENERAL, THE, THE BOLD, YOU KNOW, SUBSECTIONS ARE WHAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST A SUMMARY OF THE ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN AND THE BOATS AND, UM, KIND OF THE GENERAL, UH, PURPOSE OF THE GOLF COMMITTEE.
UM, SO THIS WAS OUR FIRST ATTEMPT AT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE ANY FEEDBACK, WE CAN TAKE THAT.
UM, IT, IT'LL GO FROM HERE TO THE DIRECTOR WHO, UM, WILL, UM, PRESENT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND IT GOES FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE'LL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, UM, ON THE CITY MANAGER'S WEBSITE AND THE CITY CLERK WILL BE FILING IT AS WELL.
SO WE'LL BE DOING THIS, UM, ONCE A YEAR FROM HERE ON OUT.
UM, AND THANK YOU KEVIN FOR THE HELP WITH IT.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS IF THERE'S ANY, SO THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON IT, IF YOU HAVE THOSE.
I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS, AGAIN, PART OF THIS ELEVATED GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A, A NEW OPPORTUNITY SLASH REQUIREMENT.
SO, UM, VERY GRATEFUL ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY HELPFUL MODEL FOR US.
IT MAY NOT LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME, THE CONTENTS WILL OBVIOUSLY BE DIFFERENT IN FUTURE YEARS, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS A, A A, AN OUTLINE IN A SAMPLE OF THE FORM, I THINK IT, IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO US GOING FORWARD.
SO, SORRY THAT IT, BECAUSE OF ALL THE, THE TIMING, I THINK IT, IT LANDED ON YOU, LORI, BUT, UM, YEAH, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE, THE WORK AND I THINK IT VERY WELL DOCUMENTED OUR ACTION ITEMS THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, YEAH, I THINK IN FUTURE YEARS WE WERE A LITTLE BIT CRUNCHED FOR TIME ON THIS ONE.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, IN FUTURE YEARS I WOULD PROBABLY PUT IT TO THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR TO KIND OF PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF, OF THE CITY.
UM, THIS YEAR I KIND OF TOOK THE LEAD ON, ON GETTING IT SORT OF STRUCTURED.
SO GOOD MODEL TO GO TO GO ON FROM HERE I THINK.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? DO HAVE ONE? THIS IS JUST ME BEING ME PLEASE.
ON THE, UH, G'S GENERAL DUTIES? MM-HMM.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY TO RECOMMEND THE PROJECTS, NOT THE AMOUNT WE'VE ALWAYS ATTACHED A RECOMMENDED AMOUNT OR A PROJECTED AMOUNT, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE DIRECTOR.
SO IT SHOULD, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED.
AND RECOMMEND PROJECTS ANNUALLY OR ANNUAL PROJECTS, NOT EXPENDITURES.
I THINK THAT'S OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND WITH THAT, UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
UM, SO I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION I AS FAR AS THE, NOT TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY, BUT CONSIDERING THAT THE GENERAL DUTIES I THINK WERE OUTLINED IN OUR BYLAWS IS, ARE THE DUTIES THAT WERE DESCRIBED HERE VERBATIM FROM OUR BYLAWS AND, UM, AND OR, UM, IS IT YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO WE, I MEAN, I KNOW WE DON'T, IDEALLY WE WERE NOT HOLDING THIS ITEM, BUT, UM, WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, RECOMMEND THAT LANGUAGE BE CHANGED FOR THE GENERAL DUTIES THAT ALIGN SPECIFICALLY VERBATIM WITH THE DUTIES PER THE BYLAWS.
ARE YOU'RE REQUESTING A CHANGE? SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS DO, DO WE NEED TO, WE, WE, I THINK THAT WE, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THIS, UM, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A MOTION TO DO SO, BUT DO WE NEED TO REVIEW THE, SO THAT THE DUTIES ARE, UH, VERBATIM TO THE, TO THE BYLAWS? I SEE.
UM, SEEING AS HOW WE HAVE A, WE HAVE SOME UPDATES TO MAKE TO THE BYLAWS, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO REFLECT THE BUSINESS WE ACTUALLY CONDUCT AND THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY DO AS A BODY.
SO I WOULD SAY, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE THE WORDING A LITTLE BIT TO REFLECT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE APPROVAL ACTUALLY IS.
UM, BUT I CAN CHECK ON THAT WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.
SO CAN I MAKE A MOTION, UH, AN AL AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION THAT WE, UM, THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND, UH, APPROVE THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPORT, BUT WITH ONE MINOR CHANGE TO ENSURE THAT THE, UM, THE DUTIES ALIGN WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT, 'CAUSE I, I, I THINK
[00:30:01]
THAT YOU, YOU, YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER BEAUTIFULLY, SO I, IT, IT SEEMED TO ME TO BE RIGHT ON POINT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND THEN IT HAS TO COME BACK.SINCE THERE IS THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU MAKE IT FRIENDLY TO THE MOER AND THEY CAN ACCEPT THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A SUBSEQUENT VOTE AND HAVE THAT FAIL AND THEN TAKE ANOTHER VOTE.
SO IF THE MOTION ACCEPTS THAT FRIENDLY, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST THAT VOTE WITH THAT SUGGESTION THAT YOU MADE.
SO, SO I WILL AS THE MOTION, DO THEY ACCEPT? YES.
CON CON I BELIEVE YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION.
SO IS, AND SHOULD I RESTATE IT? THAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE WHAT? JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT, UM, THAT THE, THE GENERAL DUTIES ALIGN WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE BYLAWS.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE NOT, I THINK WE WANTED TO MAKE THE UPDATE TO THAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE WHAT'S WRITTEN HERE.
BECAUSE WHAT'S WRITTEN HERE IS WHAT'S IN THE PAST.
I SEE THAT'S A, SO IT'S WITH THE CHANGE THAT WAS SUGGESTED TO REFLECT THAT IT'S, IT'S PROJECTS RATHER THAN PROJECT EXPENDITURES.
THIS, AND THEN I THINK THEN DID WE CLEAR IT UP FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE MINUTES? YEAH, WE, OF THE MOTION IS WE DEFEND THE MOTION.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE READY FOR ROLL CALL OR DO YOU WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER YEAH, SORRY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? OKAY.
I THINK WE ARE READY TO CALL THE VOTE.
MEMBER YOUNG VICE-CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS,
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE REQUESTED AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION FOOD AND BEVERAGE RATES FOR 2024.
CAN I GET A MOTION, AN ITEM? AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SO WE, UH, HAVE A MOTION BY MEMBER RICHIE, SECOND BY MEMBER BARRETT.
AND IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM? OR MAYBE IT'S AMERICAN GOLF? IT'S AMERICAN GOLF PRESENTATION.
I THINK EVERYBODY HAS THE PRINTOUTS OF THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE INCREASES THIS YEAR.
UM, HOPEFULLY AS EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THEM, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
UM, THE FIRST PAGE IS KIND OF A ROLLUP OF ALL THE LARGE ITEMS WE ALL CARRY THAT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
UM, NOT TOO MANY CHANGES ON THAT PAGE.
A FEW THINGS WENT UP, 50 CENTS TO A DOLLAR.
UM, BUT THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT WE WANTED TO GO OVER TODAY WAS THE MENU AT EL DORADO.
UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, EL DORADO HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN PRICED A LOT LOWER THAN COMPETITIVE MARKETS THAT ARE AROUND US.
UM, WE INHERITED A MENU THAT WAS A LOT, A LOT LOWER IN PRICE THAN, UM, THAN WE HAD AT THE OTHER GOLF COURSES THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY MANAGED WITH AMERICAN GOLF.
UH, SO THE PRICE INCREASES AT EL DORADO WERE PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, WITH OUR COSTS GOING UP, THIS IS COMPETITIVE TO THE OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AS WELL.
UM, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST HELPING US COVER OUR COSTS AND, AND, UH, GETTING THE PRICING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE'S TO BE COMPETITIVE, TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE ON BOTH ENDS.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS INEVITABLE OVER TIME, BUT THERE WERE SOME THAT SEEMED LIKE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES BY PERCENTAGE.
UM, I, I, IS THERE SORT OF A, A RHYME OR REASON? I MEAN, I, I THINK COMPARING IT TO OTHER RESTAURANTS, THERE'S SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE AND A FOOD AND BEVERAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SEEM TO ME THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MARKET RATES.
'CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, THE GOLF FACILITIES, THE GREEN SPEES AREN'T PROVIDED AT MARKET RATES.
SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS, 'CAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS THE GREENS FEE STRUCTURE, THAT IT, IT GOES UP, YOU KNOW, PER THE LEASE AGREEMENT, A, A PARTICULAR ALIGNMENT WITH THE CPI AS APPROPRIATE.
[00:35:01]
IT, IT DIDN'T SEEM TO ME, AND I LOOKED AT THE LEASE AGREEMENT, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR F AND B INCREASES.I JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS DON'T GO UP AT ALL.
AND THEN THERE WERE OTHERS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS 50%, GRANTED IT WAS GOING FROM $4 TO $6, BUT THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE SORT OF PHILOSOPHY WAS.
IS IT, IS IT ONE ITEM BY ITEM, UM, AND OR WHAT THE PARAMETERS MIGHT BE BY THE CITY? UM, WELL, I MEAN, I CAN SPEAK FOR ON THE ITEMS THEMSELF.
IT'S ALL INDIVIDUAL BASIS BASED ON THE COST OF THE ITEM AND THE COSTS IN THE KITCHEN ARE GOING UP WITH MINIMUM WAGE GOING UP AND BEING ABLE TO HIRE PEOPLE AT MINIMUM WAGES IS AN ACT OF GOD RIGHT NOW.
AND IN THE KITCHEN DEPARTMENT ESPECIALLY, UM, TRYING TO FIND COOKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WANT TO BE THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM.
SO THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP TOO, NOT JUST THE PRICING THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM EVEN OUR CISCO VENDOR.
THAT'S OUR MAIN CORPORATE VENDOR.
ALL THE PRICES ARE GOING UP ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND A LOT OF THE PLATES THAT WE'RE SELLING AT EL DORADO, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE MENU AS WELL.
UM, BUT GOING WITH THE CURRENT MENU, THESE PRICES HAVE GONE UP AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST CLEAR MARGIN ON, ON WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL GET THE EXACT TERMINOLOGY OF OUR LEASE CORRECT, BUT IN THE LEASE IT STATES AMERICAN GOLF CAN ASK TO INCREASE FOOD AND BEVERAGE PRICING.
I DO BELIEVE IT'S TWICE A YEAR.
UH, BUT I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT ONE, AS LONG AS IT'S COMPARABLE AND FAIR MARKET VALUE IN COMPARISON TO RESTAURANTS THAT ARE LOCAL TO THE AREA.
DOES THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE FOR FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS APPLY OR NOT APPLY FOR YOU? IT DOESN'T APPLY TO US.
BUT IT HURTS US ON THE FACT THAT IF WE'RE PAYING 18 FOR A CERTAIN POSITION, THEY COULD GO DO THE EXACT SAME THING AT MCDONALD'S FOR 20.
SO WE'RE HAVING A TROUBLES FILLING JUST ABOUT EVERY POSITION FOR LESS THAN $20 AN HOUR.
SO IT'S INADVERTENTLY HURTING US, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT.
IF WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA FIND ANYBODY TO WORK UNLESS YOU'RE IN A TIPPED POSITION AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TOO.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE QUESTION, BUT I'LL SHOOT IT OUT ANYWAY.
ANNUAL SALES FOR THE LONG BEACH RESTAURANTS.
CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT FIGURE, UH, ESTIMATE OF THOSE OR IS THAT NOT OUR BUSINESS? UM, I CAN ABSOLUTELY SHARE THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY, SO YOU CAN LOOK UP LAST YEAR'S FINANCIALS IF YOU WANTED TO.
I, I'M HAPPY TO BRING THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND WE CAN GO THROUGH ALL THE SALES AND, AND MARGINS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
CURIOSITY, UH, I'LL JUST MAKE A POINT PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE, BECAUSE EL DORADO HAS THE BANQUET FACILITY, THE NUMBERS YOU'LL SEE WILL NOT GIVE YOU ANY REAL INFORMATION.
THAT WILL COMPLETELY SKEW, I CAN SEPARATE ALL THAT OUT.
SO I, I CAN BRING ALL THAT IN FOR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS IN SEPTEMBER.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
NEW PRICES GO IN EFFECT JULY ONE.
SO ONCE THEY'RE VERBALLY APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, UM, I THINK THEY HAVE TO GO TO, TO THE DIRECTOR AND THEN WE'LL POST A 30 DAY NOTICE.
UM, OUT, SO THE PA THE PATRONS CAN SEE IT AND THEN IT'LL BE A 30 DAY NOTICE.
AND GREEN FEES ARE ALREADY APPROVED, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND THOSE ARE POSTED ON JUNE 30TH, SO WE HAD THE 30TH NOTICE ON THERE AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? OKAY.
WELL, MANY THANKS AND YEAH, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PROVIDED, COMPARING IT WITH OTHERS IN THE AREA, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY OF THE MIND THAT IT'S INTERESTING, ANY INFORMATION THAT CAN BE PROVIDED BECAUSE WE DO GET QUESTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME, WHETHER IT'S GREEN'S FEES OR, OR FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
I GET THOSE CALLS, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH THINGS ARE GOING UP.
SO, AND, AND ON THE ONE HAND I THINK WE UNDERSTAND IT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THERE'S A SENSE THAT AS MUCH JUSTIFICATION FOR IT, THE, THE BETTER.
UM, AND SO YEAH, APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE SHARED AND, AND, AND EASILY, UH, DIGESTIBLE IS, IS GREAT.
[00:40:01]
OKAY.UM, SO WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, TO RECOMMEND THAT THE, UH, TO THE DIRECTOR TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION FOOD AND BEVERAGE RATES FOR 24 25.
AND I THINK WE'RE READY TO CALL THE ROLE MEMBER ELEY.
MEMBER YOUNG VICE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN.
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING DATES FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2024 AND ADJUST FUTURE REGULAR MEETING DATES.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? ITEM? OKAY.
WE HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? I'M SORRY FOR THIS ITEM.
SORRY, CAN YOU SAY WHO DID THE MOTION AND, OH, SORRY.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MEMBER BARRETT AND A SECOND FROM MEMBER MEL RAY AIRE.
AND UH, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE, IS THERE A STAFF REPORT FOR THIS ITEM FIRST? UM, JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY OF IT, I SUPPOSE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THESE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS AND THE MEETING DATES.
UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WE NEED TO ADJUST, UM, OUR SPRING MEETINGS.
UM, IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE, BUT IN CASE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FEES THAT NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL.
UM, THE FEBRUARY DATE WASN'T REALLY WORKING, SO, UM, THEN I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO SHIFT ALL THE REST OF THE MEETINGS.
UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE DECEMBER WORKS BETTER IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST TO, UM, TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.
SO, UM, AND THEN ALSO NOT HAVING OUR A MEETING DURING THAT LAST WEEK OF THE GOLF FESTIVALS.
PROBABLY, UM, A BONUS TOO THURSDAY.
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE PROPOSED SHIFTING ALL THE MEETING DATES BY ONE MONTH.
UM, STILL KEEPING THEM ON THEIR FIRST THURSDAY, SAME TIME, SAME PLACE, JUST SHIFTING THEM BY A MONTH SO THAT WE WOULD MEET REGULARLY IN MARCH.
MAY, UH, SORRY, MARCH, JUNE, SEPTEMBER AND DECEMBER.
AND, AND THE TIME WILL REMAIN TWO 30.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.
UM, I THINK WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE READY FOR THE ROLL CALL.
MEMBER YOUNG VICE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA AND IS THERE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY? ALRIGHT, SCENE NONE.
UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS, MEMBERS AND STAFF.
ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UM, I HAVE ONE.
UH, THE GENERAL MANAGER AT HARWELL GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN PROMOTED.
UH, MIKE MAPLE WAS PROMOTED TO GENERAL MANAGER AT ANAHEIM HILLS GOLF COURSE.
OH, GOOD FOR WHAT? UM, SO ERIC HEAP, THE ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER AT EL DORADO, WILL BE THE NEW GENERAL MANAGER STARTING TUESDAY.
SO WE'LL START TRAINING IN AND GOING FOR THERE.
SO BOTH NICE YOUNG MEN AND OH YEAH.
GOT A GOOD CAREER AHEAD OF 'EM.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALRIGHT, GOING ONCE.
AND WITH THAT, WITH NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, I DECLARE THE MEETING ADJOURNED.