[00:00:01]
AN EXECUTIVE MEETING TO ORDER.UH, COULD YOU PLEASE DO OUR ROLL CALL? YES.
UM, A, UH, AVIS ATKINS COMMISSIONER? NO, NO.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE OUR THIRD MEMBER.
SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM IN THAT, UM, BOTH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR ARE PRESENT AS WELL AS STAFF.
AND THEN THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING WERE DISTRIBUTED.
THEY BE APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED.
AND NOW WE HAVE, UM, THE AGENDA ITEMS PRESENTED FOR OUR AUGUST 11, UM, REPORT.
AND I AM, UM, EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE, COREY, YET THAT I'M MISSING TODD.
UM, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT I SWIM WITH.
UM, COMMENDED YOU ON YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, ON THE BEACH SIDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT LIVE ALONG THE OCEAN THAT HAVE AN INCREDIBLE VIEW OF THE SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, ON THE BEACH.
AND SO IT CAN'T BE EASY WHEN YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THEY'RE YOUR SUPERVISOR.
AND TO KNOW THAT YOU GIVE EVERYONE THAT EXTRA EFFORT AND MAKE 'EM FEEL LIKE THEY'RE YOUR ONLY CUSTOMER.
MY CONCERN, UM, IS NOT TRASH BECAUSE, UH, BARBIE AND I WENT TO ALL THE WAY FROM DOWNTOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF THE PENINSULA IN
EVERYTHING WAS GREAT, WHICH WAS NICE ON A YESTERDAY.
SO, UH, UH, YESTERDAY WAS TUESDAY.
UM, SO EVERYTHING, THEY LOOKED GREAT.
MY CONCERN, UH, IS THIS WEEKEND, I KNOW THEY'RE ALLOWING ELECTRIC, UH, SCOOTERS AND BIKES, COMMERCIAL, THE, UH, ON, UH, THE BIKE LANE, I SAW MORE PEOPLE GETTING PUSHED OFF THE LANE WITH PEOPLE THERE.
LET'S, UM, LET'S HOLD ONTO THAT ON OUR END.
I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE, YEAH.
IS IT HERE? SO WE FINISHED THERE IN OUR MINUTES AND THEN THE, BUT ANYWAYS, GREAT.
UH, AND OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM MICHAEL BLUM THAT'LL BE, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF SURFING.
UM, AND I, I AM, I'D LIKE TO PUT IN OUR, UM, AGENDA SOMETHING REALLY MAYBE A LITTLE BEEF THAT UP ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO FILE AND RECEIVE.
UM, SO THAT GETS ON MORE RADAR OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT OUR AGENDA, BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A POSITIVE GOOD THING.
UM, AND THE HISTORY OF SURFING IS SO SIGNIFICANT WITHIN LONG BEACH.
UM, LET'S GET SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE MEDIA NOTICES AND MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UM, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S GONNA BE WALKING THE AREA WITH ERIC LOPEZ IN ADVANCE OF OUR MEETING AND PROPOSING SOME SPOTS.
UM, THAT'S WHY I HAD HOPED THAT WE COULD HAVE OUR MEETING CLOSER SO THAT MORE OF THE COMMISSIONERS COULD WALK THAT AREA TOO.
I KNOW, BUT THIS IS REALLY GONNA WAKE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA WAKE IT UP AND PEOPLE SAYS, YEAH, WHY DON'T WE? BUT THEN THE WORRY THAT I ALWAYS HAVE IS ALL THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
WE ALREADY HAVE BEACH WASH AWAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
AND I'M TRYING TO THINK WHETHER TO, UM, TAKE THOSE FINDINGS AND ATTACH THEM AS PART OF OUR MAC AGENDA.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THAT ISSUE WAS A CLOSED ONE, BUT THEY HAD A FINAL, THEY HAVE A FINAL PAPER ON IT, JUST A ONE SHEET ON IT.
[00:05:01]
REVIEW WAS.I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE JUST TO SHARE IT.
DO YOU COULD, BUT WE WOULD NEED THAT WHEN, UM, FOR TAMLIN RIGHT AWAY TO GO IN THE PACKET.
COULD YOU COME TAKE THAT ACTION TO GET THAT ONE SHEET AND GET IT TO HER? I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A PHONE CALL.
I'LL CALL DOWN TO THE CITY AND SEE IF I'LL CALL PATRICK TO SEE IF HE STILL HAS IT.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN GET THAT SUMMARY.
'CAUSE THE SUMMARY WOULD BE NICE.
I DON'T WANT TO OPEN A WHOLE NOTHER PANDEMIC BOX.
I MEAN, WHY, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WELL, HERE'S THE REASONS WE CAN'T.
I MEAN, AND LET'S FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE.
THAT, THAT THEY'VE DONE ALL THIS RESEARCH ON THE HISTORY, UM, AND IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT THAT THE, THE BIG TROPHY WAS DONATED BY RICHARD LOINS AND SUCH A GREAT VISIONARY THAT HE ANTICIPATED THIS WHOLE MARINA HERE.
AND WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE BECAUSE OF RICHARD LOINS.
SO I THINK MAKING THAT AGENDA ITEM TWO, THE BIGGEST ITEM WHEN, OR DO WE, UM, I THINK WE JUST ADDED, I, I THINK WE, WELL, OR DO WE KIND OF RE UM, RESHUFFLE THINGS AND FRONT LOAD SOME OF THE COMMITTEE STATUS THINGS IN A, UM, IN A SHORTENED WAY.
AND SO WE CAN GET RIGHT ONTO THE SPEAKER AND ADJOURN AT THE END OF THAT.
OH, DO ALL THE OTHER ONES AND HAVE THAT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK THAT'S BETTER TO HAVE HIM DO A REVIEW.
AGAIN, IF THERE'S MORE PUBLIC THERE THAT WANT TO TALK, WE GET OUR QUICK BUSINESS DONE AND ALLOW HIM TO HAVE MORE TIME.
ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM PATRICK IN HAND AT THAT TIME THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE PACKETS.
UM, AND THEN WE, UH, I, WE ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THERE'S, IT'S A LOT OF STAFF TIME SITTING THERE AT THAT MEETING.
AND THEN IF WE COULD CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THOSE STAFF REPORTS AND THEN FOCUS ON A DIFFERENT AREA EACH MONTH, AND OTHER THAN THAT, THAT THE MANAGERS PRESENTING, MOST EVERYBODY'S, I THINK WOULD BE A BETTER USE OF TIME.
DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS? NO, I, I LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, IT IS, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE POLICE, FIRE, EVERYBODY'S THERE AND REALLY TODD'S DOING A FULL REVIEW ANYWAY.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS HAVING THOSE, THOSE FOLKS THERE THAT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PERTINENT TO WHATEVER WAS DISCUSSED, I THINK IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE MANAGER AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.
I HAVE NO, I THINK I, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
BUT, BUT A DEEPER DIVE, MAYBE A QUARTERLY WITH, WITH EACH OF THE H ONE, WE CAN DO A DEEPER DIVE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK TODD RELIES ON US AS SUPERINTENDENTS BEING THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THOSE REPORTS.
MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE AT A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL, RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO THE DEAL THE, LIKE, THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS THAT, UM, SOMETHING BIGGER DOING HAPPENED.
I MEAN, JUST LIKE THE LIGHTS THAT YOU PUT OUT ON THE WELL, BUT THOSE ARE ALL A INCLUDED IN THEIR WRITTEN REPORTS, RIGHT? SO BUREAU MANAGER TO GIVE, UM, OVERALL UPDATES AND MAYBE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
AND THEN, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTEN A LOT OF, UM, LIKE THE TRUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONE BIG THAT WE REALLY, AND, AND I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON ALL THE REALLY POSITIVE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND THAT JUST, THAT'S BAD FOR EVERYBODY'S MORALE.
AND ALSO, I, I THINK JOE IS, IS LOOKING AT, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST ONE IS MAYBE ONCE A QUARTER WE BRING IN THAT GROUP THAT HAS SPECIAL RECOGNITION THAT WE CAN GIVE, YOU KNOW, THE LIFEGUARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRAINING LIFEGUARDS OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MARINE BUREAU, WHATEVER.
BUT EVERY QUARTER WE HAVE ANOTHER GROUP, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHEN THEY GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION IS WHEN WE GIVE THE RECOGNITION FOR THAT GROUP.
AND THAT GIVES EVERY GROUP THAT GETS UP AND TALKS A RECOGNITION PIECE PLUS WHAT THEY'VE GOT GOING ON.
AND THEN WHEN, UM, AS COMMISSIONERS, WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR AGENDA ITEMS THAT IF WE HAD ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS WITHIN AN AREA THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, ONE OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS THAT THEY COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR REPORT.
I THINK THAT KIND OF STREAMLINES WHAT WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT.
ALL I KNOW IS WE USED TO COUNT, IT HAD A LOT OF FUN DOWN THERE WITH OUR LITTLE MINI SURFBOARDS GROWING UP.
UH, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE POST PICKED UP THE KITE BOARDING STORY.
[00:10:01]
IT SEEMED LIKE A BIG DELAY FROM WHEN THAT WAS ADDRESSED.UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU HEARD THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, WHO THEY ASKED WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, AND THEY, THEY STARTED TO NAME AND THEY ONLY GOT AS FAR AS, UM, TODD AND HE WASN'T THERE.
UM, PLANT, BRIAN PLANT WAS THERE.
AND, UM, IT KIND OF PUT HIM IN A BAD PLACE.
SHE, SHE PULLED IT OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND REALLY SURPRISED STAFF BY DOING THAT.
YOU WERE THINKING IT WAS CONSENT.
AND THEN THE, UM, THEN WHEN I ASKED FOR THE COPY OF HER POWERPOINT, IT HAD NOT GONE THROUGH TRADITIONAL CHANNELS.
SHE'D GIVEN IT DIRECT TO THE TECH PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO THEN IT TOOK A WHILE BEFORE THAT WOULD APPEAR IN THE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES.
UH, AND, UM, IT DID NOT PUT US IN A GOOD LIGHT.
AND WE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS AND SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE A ROBUST SYSTEM.
IT MADE IT APPEAR AS THOUGH THERE WAS NOT CRITERIA IN SELECTING VENDORS AND THAT THERE WAS NOT A, A CLEAR PROCESS AND THERE WEREN'T WAYS TO DO THE ANALYSIS AND MAKE THE DECISION.
AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE, BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED THEM AS A COMMISSION, BUT WE NEED TO PROVE THAT.
AND SO PART OF OUR JOB IS TO BE THE EYES AND EARS OF CITY COUNCIL, AND OUR EYES AND EARS ARE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO IT MADE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB AND YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.
SO IT WAS A BLACK EYE TO ALL OF US.
I, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD COME TO US BECAUSE IT HAS, I MEAN, EVERYTHING SUPPOSEDLY, WELL, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.
EVERYTHING SUPPOSEDLY SHOULD COME THROUGH US, IN OTHER WORDS, FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THINGS HAPPENING.
AND WHEN IT DOESN'T AND IT JUST GETS PASSED, WE GET ASKED QUESTIONS AND I'M, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE.
THAT'S WHAT I LOVE SAYING, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE.
BUT DOESN'T IT COME TO, BUT THAT, AND IT, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE SMARTER.
AND NOT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE MORE OVERSIGHT, BUT THAT WE'RE LOOKING THAT, THAT WE HAVE YOUR BACK GUYS.
AND, AND WE WANNA BE THERE MAKING SURE THAT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF VENDOR AGREEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE, THE BEACH VENDORS AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
UM, AND IF SOME PREJUDICE APPEARS THERE, WE WANNA REMOVE ANY PERCEPTION OF THAT.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM WITH THE MAC FOR DECADES.
WHEN BILL DELACEY HAD, WAS DONE AT HIS TERM AS THIRD DISTRICT COUNCILMAN, THE FIRST THING HE WANTED TO DO WAS BECOME A MAC COMMISSIONER.
AND THEN THERE WAS A, UH, RENT INCREASE THAT WENT IN ON THE MARINA, AND IT DIDN'T COME FIRST THROUGH THE MAC.
AND SO HE WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PRESS TELEGRAM SAYING THAT THE, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS THROUGH THE MAC.
SO THIS, THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S GONE ON FOR A LONG TIME.
SO LET'S TRY TO GET MORE OF THOSE THINGS IN, EVEN IF IT'S A LIST OF THE VENDORS AND THAT WE'VE GOT A CHANCE IN ADVANCE IN OUR MAC PACKAGE TO ASK ABOUT IT AND TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.
MUCH LIKE WE DID, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY ALL THE RESTAURANTS, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY A DECISION.
I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY MADE.
AND, AND, AND LOOKING AT THE RESTAURANTS.
BUT IF THEY WANT TO CLEAR, I, I GUESS KEEPING THE SKY CRYSTAL CLEAR, HAVING IT COME THROUGH OUR COMMISSION, UM, DEFINITELY HELPS THE CITY.
UH, BECAUSE WE ASK, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A UNIQUE AND DISTINCTIVE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BE VERY, VERY, UM, ASKING VERY PERTINENT QUESTIONS, UH, TO STAFF, MUCH LIKE WE DID WHEN WE HAD THE PARKING.
AND THE MAYOR CAME IN AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
AND THAT WAS, UH, UM, THAT WAS FUN TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS AND SAY, WE CAN'T, HOW CAN YOU DO THAT? YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
AND WE HAD PEOPLE STATING THAT YOU CAN'T, I MEAN, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
WELL, YES, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST US TAKING A STAND THAT MADE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PRESS AT THE MAC COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, TOOK A STAND ON.
I'VE BEEN IN POLITICS FOR, FOR ALMOST 35 YEARS, SO I KNOW HOW SAUSAGE IS MADE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S NOT PLEASANT.
SO I THINK I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH YOU ON THESE TYPE OF ISSUES SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO US.
[00:15:01]
IT DOWN A MONTH, WELL IT SLOWS IT DOWN BECAUSE YOU NEED TO PUT IT THROUGH THE MAC INSTEAD OF US JUST DEALING WITH SOMEBODY UPSET ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PARK BENCH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, DON'T GET ME WRONG.THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.
OR SOMEBODY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A SLEEP ABOARD ON IT LIKE THAT.
I CAN SEE THAT THERE'S BIGGER THINGS THAT THIS COMMISSION LOOKS AT AND WANTS TO BE A PART OF TO HELP AND SUPPORT OUR CITY AND OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR MAYOR.
UM, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE COME IN AND TALK TO US TOO, UM, AND DO A PRESENTATION.
IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THE VICE MAYOR, MAYOR COME IN AND, AND TALK.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WHICH, WHICH GETS US BACK TO OUR AGENDA ITEM THREE AND THAT THE VICE MAYOR HAD BROUGHT FORWARD ON THE, THE E SCOOTER RENTALS.
UM, IF WE WANNA DISCUSS AND REVIEW IT, WHERE WOULD YOU SEE, WHAT WOULD OUR FINAL DELIVERABLE BE? WOULD IT BE THAT WE HAVE A COMMITTEE, THAT WE WRITE A LETTER? AND WHAT WOULD YOUR VISION BE? MY VISION BE IF THEY'RE GONNA RECOMMEND SOMETHING ON, ON THE BEACH THAT THE VICE MAYOR SHOULD HAVE COME TO US AND TALKED TO US AND GONE TO TODD, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD FEEL LIKE? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I'D BRING UP AND I SAYS, THEY'RE SPEED DEMONS.
THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY SPEED DEMONS ON IT.
THERE'S NO ONE HOLDING 'EM ACCOUNTABLE.
AND IF YOU SAW 'EM ON THE ELECTRIC BIKES AND NOW THE MINI BIKES, I MEAN, WHEN WE HAD MINI BIKES WHEN WE WERE KIDS AND, AND WE RACED AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WERE FEAR OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.
NOW THERE'S 20 OF 'EM GOING DOWN OUR STREET, AND NO ONE'S STOPPING ANYTHING.
THE ONE KID, THE ONE MAN THAT GOT BEAT UP OVER BY THE LIGHTHOUSE, I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS A ONE DAY STORY.
THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO US.
AND HOW ARE WE ALLOWING THIS? AND WHERE IS SOME MARINE BUREAU, SINCE THAT'S A PART OF THEIR AREA TOO.
WHERE IS THE ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS DRIVING ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE WALKWAYS AND LITERALLY ALL OVER THE, THE LAWNS, HOW, UM, THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED.
AND ONE PERSON DECIDED TO TAKE IT INSANE.
YOU'VE GOT EIGHT OTHER PEOPLE WITH THEIR CAMERAS ON.
NO ONE'S HELPING THIS GUY AS HE IS GETTING KICKED AND BEATEN UP.
SO WHAT PRODUCT IS YOU? I AM GOING BACK TO THE, MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.
I'M LOOKING AT THE SCOTER RENTALS, WHICH ALSO ALLOWS ELECTRIC BIKES ON THE PATHWAY.
BECAUSE MA, MANY OF THE ELECTRIC BIKES LOOK LIKE REGULAR BIKES UNTIL THEY PUT ON THE, THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AND ENFORCED.
I, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING.
SO WOULD YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT'S FORMING ON THEM.
WHAT WOULD YOU SEE? I WANNA, I WANNA SEE THEM JUST COME AND PRESENT TO US.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED A WHOLE NOTHER COMMITTEE ON IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE VICE MAYOR, IF SHE'S BIG ON THIS, TO BRING THE GROUP IN THAT'S GOING TO BE RENTING THESE AND HAVE 'EM DO A PRESENTATION.
SO IS IT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY FROM LY IN THE FUTURE? YES.
SO TODD MENTIONED THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS WORKING ON THE FRAMEWORK RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'RE GONNA NEED A FEW MONTHS TO GATHER ALL THAT INFORMATION, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FRAMEWORK'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, AND THEN HE'S GONNA REQUEST THAT THEY COME AND DO A PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS.
ARE THEY USING IT NOW OR ARE THEY RENTING 'EM NOW? OR IS IT WAITING? THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE WAITING TO DO ALL THIS TO COME TO, THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN APPROVAL.
SO HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN WHEN NONE OF THE COMMISSIONS, GOD, I HATE SAYING IT AGAIN.
NO, WE'RE GONNA FIX THAT AND THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER FIX.
AND, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEXT FEW DAYS, 4TH OF JULY ON THAT, ON THAT WALKWAY WITH EVERYBODY COMING IN.
FIRST OF ALL, WE AIN'T SEEN FIREWORKS.
LIKE WE SEEN THEY PUT, WAS THAT ON THE AGENDA? IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE'VE NOT SEEN FIREWORKS IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS THAT WE WILL SEE ON 4TH OF JULY ALONG THE BEACH.
I HAVE FRIENDS THAT
AND TRUST ME, WHEN MY FRIENDS COME FROM PICO, THEY'RE BRINGING FIREWORKS WITH 'EM.
AND THIS IS, OH, IT'S A $25,000 FINE FOR FIREWORKS.
MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIT UP EVERY NIGHT FOR THE LAST TWO NIGHTS.
MINE HAS TO, YOU KNOW, MY DOG.
I SIT THERE AND PEOPLE SAY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING 4TH OF JULY? I'M SITTING WITH MY DOG.
I SIT WITH MY DOG AND YOU KNOW, AND I'VE GOT A BIG DOG.
I DON'T GO OUT AND IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S, IT'S AMERICA.
MY BELIEFS, IT'S AMERICA FIREWORKS ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT DO YOU SIT THERE AND STOP IT FOR EVERYONE OR LET PEOPLE ENJOY.
NOW THE ILLEGAL ONES THAT ARE POPPING OVER MY HOUSE, I'M NOT A HAPPY GUY.
AND I GO TO MY NEIGHBORS AND I'VE KNOWN MY NEIGHBORS FOR 40 SOMETHING YEARS.
AND I SAYS, COME ON, POINT IT THAT WAY.
POINT IT AT THE OTHER NEIGHBOR.
YOU KNOW? BUT IT, IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, KNOCK ON WOOD, I HOPE IT'S A GOOD, SO, BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE'LL LEAVE THE THREE ON THERE.
AND THEN, UM, IF, IF THERE ARE SOME INCIDENTS.
WHO'S CHECKING ON THE INCIDENTS THOUGH? THAT'S THE THING.
IF YOU WALK DOWN THERE AND SEE IT, THERE'S PEOPLE,
[00:20:01]
THERE'S PEOPLE LITERALLY GOING, WHOA, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE WAY.AND THERE'S, THEY'RE JUST, THERE'S EIGHT OR NINE OF THEM AT A TIME.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING OUT AS A WALK PATH ARE HAVE TO GO ON THE SAND.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO POLICE ACTION.
YOU WERE PHYSICALLY THERE AND WITNESSED.
AND IT IS A CHALLENGE WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WHEN YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF THAT WHOLE BEACH AREA TO THE, THE HOMELESSNESS THAT IS THERE AND UM, UM, CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN THE STUFF THAT'S COMING DOWN THE RIVER THAT YOU'RE CLEANING UP MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON THE JETTY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
AND SO THEN IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE AGENDA ITEMS AROUND, WE'LL HAVE A, A SHORTENED MONTHLY REPORT AND ON COMMITTEE STATUS, UH, IS OUR ONLY REAL COMMITTEE THAT'S OPEN WITH READY FOR REPORT SOMETHING ON THE BLUFF.
AND I KNOW SHE, UM, ANA HAS EXPRESSED A COUPLE CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON LATELY WITH THAT.
AND THEN I NOTICED, UM, JUSTIN RUDD POSTED ONLINE THAT THEY RENTED A MASSIVE CRANE TO GET A T-SHIRT AND A KITE OUT OF A MM-HMM.
AND SO I WAS GETTING A LOT OF TEXTS ABOUT, IS THAT HOW WE'RE USING OUR RESOURCES? WHAT HAPPENED? T-SHIRT AND A KITE OUT OF WHAT? IN A TREE.
AND SO THEY DID A MASSIVE RENTAL OF A WHO AND WHO RENTED IT? HE DID.
AND COULD MAYBE WE PUT THAT IN THE REPORT SO WE CAN WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T REAL HAPPY.
I WAS LOOKING, IF I HAD THE, SO SOMEBODY WAS FLYING THE KITE AND GOT STUCK IN A TREE AND THERE WAS A T-SHIRT UP THERE IN ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, STUFF GETS IN TREES AND WE KNOW THEY RENTED IT.
IT WASN'T BORROWED FROM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A CHERRY PICKER THAT WE CAN BORROW FROM UPLAND PARKS.
THE ESTO, THE, IT'S GOT THE NAME OF THE COMPANY ON THE, THE RENTAL COMPANY.
IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF OUR CITY TRUCKS.
BUT THE TAG ON THE FRONT LOOKS LIKE HOW WE NUMBER OUR TRUCKS IN THE BLUE, THE CHERRY BUCKET.
THAT'S JUST NO, THAT'S THE RENTAL COMPANY'S NAME.
WHERE WAS THIS ON THE BLUFF? YEAH.
AND PEOPLE THAT ARE FEELING LIKE THEY'RE GOING DOWN THE RAMP FOR ONE APPAREL.
SO WE HAD TO RENT SOMETHING BECAUSE SOMEBODY, IT WAS OBTUSE TO THAT PERSON TO SEE WELL, WELL JUSTIN TEACHES YOGA OUT THERE AND HE DIDN'T LIKE HAVING THE T-SHIRT AND THE KITE IN THE TREE.
SO HE CONVINCED SOME CITY EMPLOYEES TO RENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RENTAL AND CHERRY PICKER.
I REALLY THINK THAT'S A CITY ONE.
IT COULD JUST BE THE BUCKET IS THE NAME OF IT.
IS, IS WHERE THEY BOUGHT THE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
'CAUSE AND GET IN FRONT OF IT.
AND SO THAT WE'RE NOT, WHEN PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THEIR TREES TRIMMED AND THEY'RE SAYING, HOW'S JUSTIN GETTING A T-SHIRT OUT OF A TREE INSTEAD? WELL, WE CAN'T TRIM 'CAUSE WE'RE IN NESTING SEASON.
BUT I KNOW UNDERSTAND
I'M NOT EVEN GONNA SAY 'CAUSE WE'RE ON, BUT YEAH, I, YEAH.
WHEN I TOLD MY NEIGHBORS THAT I HAD A FAMILY MOVING IN OF 12 CHILDREN, UH, THAT, THAT I WORKED FOR THE STATE WHEN I WAS BUILDING MY, AND THEY, THEY CAUSED A BIG BRUHAHA THAT WAS JUST MY OFFICE.
BUT STILL NOSY PEOPLE THAT COME IN.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, I I I'M JUST AMAZED ON THE REACTION THAT WE HAVE ON DIFFERENT THINGS IS, IS, IS FROM THE HIP AND NO ONE THINKS.
[00:25:01]
A STATE IT'S ONE OR SOMETIMES TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ANGRY ABOUT IT THAT CAUSE THE BROUHAHA AND 98% OF THE PEOPLE COULDN'T CARE LESS.UM, IT PROBABLY WAS A CASE THAT, THAT VEHICLE, THE SHIRT GET UP THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW WAS, WELL, EVERYTHING WAS THERE ALREADY.
AND IT'S LIKE, WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, WILL YOU GRAB IT? YEAH.
AND SO THEN IT GETS OUT OF PROPORTION.
NO, YOU KNOW, PUNISHMENT FOR ANY NICE THING YOU DO.
SO THE, UM, CAN WE HAVE THE VICE MAYOR OR SOMEBODY FROM HER STAFF COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE, UH, HER PUSHING THE E SCOOTER RENTALS? I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE THEIR INPUT SINCE WE ARE THEIR COMMISSIONERS AND NOT KNOWING ABOUT IT.
SHE'S HAVING SURGERY AND SHE'LL BE OUT ON MEDICAL FOR A WHILE.
JUST A JUST THE, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT OF AMY MAHER COMING.
WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT IN THAT.
SO OF ITEMS SMALL, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER COMMITTEE STAFF REPORTS.
WE'LL JUST GO QUICK WITH THE BLUFF.
MAYBE SHE CAN JUST DO A WRITTEN REPORT.
'CAUSE I REALLY WANNA MAKE IT THE MEAT OF THE, THE COOL STUFF ABOUT SURFING.
NO, I, I, I THINK I, AND THEN I LIKE HAVING SURFING AT THE END BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO JUST, IT'S GONNA BE A POSITIVE.
WE NEED TO, UM, AND THEN THE MEETING AND THE BYLAWS.
SO YOU GUYS DEFINITELY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE MEETING TIMES.
UM, TODD REALLY WANTED ME TO TRY AND DISCOURAGE THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT TAMLIN AND TODD HAVE DONE, THEY, THEY LOOKED AT THE 35 DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT ARE ON YOGA.
OF THOSE 35, 30 OF 'EM ARE ALL DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
THE FIVE THAT AREN'T ARE, ARE, UH, WHAT DID HE SAY? UH, OUR CHARTER COMMITTEES.
SO HE'S REALLY ENCOURAGING BECAUSE IF WE START TAKING OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS HOURS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HARDER TIME IN GETTING CITY STAFF TO COMMIT TO COMING TO THESE MEETINGS FOR, IT'S ALL ABOUT DOLLARS.
IT'S ALL ABOUT OT AND THEY ONLY HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND, AND I THINK THE ONLY TIME WE REALLY HAD DURING COVID, RIGHT AFTER COVID, WE HAD A COUPLE EVENING ONES.
WELL, AND I THINK IF THERE'S SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON, WE HAVE, I WOULD ANTICIPATE HAVING TWO OR THREE EVENING MEETINGS, UM, RECYCLING OF OR YEAH.
OF MORE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH TIDELANDS MONEY AND THEN NO WELL IN ADVANCE.
AND THEN IF WE'VE ALREADY ADJUSTED OUR AGENDAS SO THAT OUR STAFF REPORTS ARE MINIMAL THAN NOT REQUIRE EVERYONE TO BE THERE AND NOT BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
UM, I LIKE THE, I I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING ONE OR TWO A YEAR ON SPECIAL ITEMS THAT WE SIT THERE AND PUT IT.
I THINK IT'S JUST, IT GIVES THE, IT GIVES THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T BE THERE AT 2 33 O'CLOCK GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO COME.
BUT HAVING IT EVERY NIGHT, THAT'S NO.
UM, AND I THINK HAVING, UM, WELL THREE, WE HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE MISSED A CONSIDERABLY LARGE NUMBER OF MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN CONFLICT WITH THEIR WORK SCHEDULE.
SO YOU ARE CHANGING THE NATURE OF WHO'S ON THE COMMISSION BY HAVING ONLY DAYTIME MEETINGS.
THAT'S, THAT'S A DOWNSIDE I HATE.
AND, AND, UH, UM, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE AT WORK.
AND I HAVE TO GO TO MY PRESIDENT OF UPS AND SAY, I'VE GOT A STAFF MEETING ON THIS.
I'M GONNA BE, UH, UH, LEAVING.
IT'S ASKING, IT'S ONCE A MONTH.
IT WAS A PROBABLY PART OF THE BYLAWS WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT THAT STATED, THIS IS A TIME REFERENCE.
AND WHY DID YOU ACCEPT IT? WHY DID YOU ACCEPT IT IF YOU KNEW YOU COULDN'T DO THERE, DON'T USE IT.
NOW, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THOSE THREE STAFF MEMBERS, UM, ARE ONES THAT REPRESENT A LOT OF OUR DIVERSITY AND THAT, UM, ARE WE NOT BEING INCLUSIVE BY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THERE'S EVENING MEETINGS.
AND I, I, I WILL AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE COMMISSION TO COME ON IT, IT WAS STATED ON THAT I CAN'T, YOU CAN'T BE SOMEBODY, HEY, I I'M NOT GONNA PAY THAT AMOUNT OF INSURANCE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOUR INSURANCE COSTS.
NO, I, NO, I THINK IT WAS ALREADY STATED.
UM, IT'S MOVING UNDER THE AIRPORT RUNWAY PATTERN BY AND THEN COMPLAINING LATER.
AND I, AND I LIVE UNDER THE AIRPORT RUNWAY AND EVERYBODY COMES TO MY HOUSE IS HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH IT? WELL, I DEAL WITH IT JUST FINE.
I'VE BEEN HERE 40 SOMETHING YEARS AND THEY'VE
[00:30:01]
GOTTEN QUIETER.SO SHOULD WE GO BACK AND LOOK HISTORICALLY THAT WE'VE HAD NIGHT MEETINGS AND WHAT THE DRIVER WAS SURE.
I DON'T MIND LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY.
OR LET'S LOOK AND SEE WHAT OUR MEETING SCHEDULES WERE THAT IF WE LOOK EVEN FIVE YEARS.
I, I DON'T WANNA PUT MORE A ACTION TO STAFF.
I CAN GO BACK ON MY EMAIL SINCE I STARTED AND SEE WHICH ONES WERE, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU DO THAT QUICK ENOUGH? THAT THAT'SS NOT A BURDEN.
SO YOU JUST WANT ME TO FOCUS ON THE EVENING MEETINGS AND WHAT THEY WERE.
WE LOOKED AT THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND WE NEEDED IT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF THIS.
PARKING, PARKING, PARKING WAS OUR BIG ONE THAT WE HAD, UH,
THE DREDGING THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT ONE TIME.
I CAN DO, AND IF WE'RE PLANNING OUT A YEAR, IF THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE WANNA GET PUBLIC COMMENT ON, YOU CAN EASILY MOVE IT A COUPLE MONTHS AND THEN MAKE THOSE EVENINGS THAT ARE TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR.
WHAT'S OUR DEDICATION THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE? IS IT A MONTH IF WE CHANGE AND DECIDED OUR NEXT MEETING WAS GONNA BE, NOT, NOT JULY, BUT OUR AUGUST MEETING WAS GOING TO BE AT NIGHT.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WATCH IF WE'VE UPLOADED IT.
UH, OUR, OUR, OUR YOUNG LADY THAT, THAT PROTECTS THE BIRDS.
WHAT'S HER NAME? ANNA CHRISTENSEN.
WHEN SHE GOT UP AND SPOKE AND IT REALLY HIT HARD BECAUSE I JUST WENT, WOW.
SHE GOES, REMEMBER WHEN YOU GO INTO A RESTAURANT AND EVERYBODY WAS SMOKING? MM-HMM.
AND SHE IS, IT TOOK A LONG TIME, DIDN'T IT? YEAH.
ISN'T THAT NICE TO GO TO A RESTAURANT WHEN NO ONE'S SMOKING? I LOOK AT IT, I SAYS, WOW, THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL STATEMENTS.
'CAUSE I'VE SHARED THAT WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIREWORKS AND STUFF.
WELL, HARVARD'S STILL DOING FIREWORKS.
SOMEBODY SAID THEY WERE DOING DRONES AT THE, AT THE HARVARD.
WHAT'S VIRGINIA COUNTRY CLUB? DID YOU SEE THEIR $125,000 FIREWORK DISPLAY? 125,000.
SOMEBODY SAID IT WAS JUST, AND I SAYS THAT IT WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING SHOW.
AND I WENT, THERE'S MORE BIRDS DOWN THERE
BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT'S WHO YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND LOOK.
DON'T TARGET SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE ANGRY AT ONE PERSON.
AND, AND LOOK, IT'S FOR THE BETTER.
BUT WHEN ANNA SAID THAT, I I I, I'VE SHARED THAT.
I'VE SHARED THAT ON MY, MY THINK OF IT CHANGE SOMETIMES COMES SLOWER.
BUT ISN'T SOME OF THE CHANGE EVEN BETTER NOW? MM-HMM.
AND JOE AND I HAVE TALKED, AND WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE DRONES AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS MM-HMM.
BUT THERE'S ALSO A COST FACTOR TO IT.
SO, BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT IT COST A HUNDRED, I JUST WENT, WOW.
WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF CULTURAL CHANGES.
CAN YOU IMAGINE 10 YEARS AGO, HOW INAPPROPRIATELY WE WOULD ALL BE DRESSED RIGHT NOW? OH, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YEAH.
WE WOULD'VE, WE WOULD'VE BEEN DAD, YOU WOULD'VE BEEN ASKED TO LEAVE.
TATTOOS ARE LIKE A, A, A TABOO.
OH, I CAN REMEMBER GUYS HAVING TO WEAR BANDAIDS OVER YOUR OH, THE HOLES NOT SHOW THE HOLES.
I, I JUST, I I GOTTA GIVE HER, AND I'M GONNA, YOU, SHE'S THERE THIS, UH, NEXT MEETING.
I JUST WANNA, I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT COMMENT BECAUSE SHE EVEN WANTED TO COME THIS MORNING.
UM, AND SHE'S SO PASSIONATE ABOUT STUFF.
BUT THAT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIRDS, THE FO YOU KNOW, EVERYONE THAT HAS A DIFFERENT CONCERN, THAT WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE TO THOSE AND GET THOSE ON THE AGENDA.
AND EVEN KIND OF PLAN MONTHS IN ADVANCE AND KNOW OKAY, BEFORE WE GET TO JULY, WHEN THE PERMIT PART IS STARTING, LET'S PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA.
AND GIVE CHA FOLKS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, IF WE ANTICIPATE, OKAY, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THERE IN JANUARY AND MAKE HER THE SPEAKER.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA GROW.
AND, AND JOE, I KNOW SOME OF YOUR, YOUR WISHES AND YOUR VISIONS AND STUFF IS ABOUT GROWING AND WE HEAR WE'RE REPRESENTING OUR AREAS.
IT'S NOT WHAT BRUCE DOUBLE D WANTS.
[00:35:01]
I, I'VE BEEN THE PAST PRESIDENT OF MANY ASSOCIATIONS AND I HAVE TO SAY, WELL, UPS NEEDS IT THIS WAY, BUT FOLKS HAVE TO LOOK AT 90% OF MY TRUCKERS WANT IT THIS WAY.NOW I HAVE TO GO UP AND SPEAK IN FRONT OF GOVERNORS.
WAIT A MINUTE, YOU'RE, YOU VICE PRESIDENT UPS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S THAT'S GOOD.
SO I THINK THIS IS AN, UM, EXCELLENT AGENDA AND I'M HAPPY WITH, UH, REARRANGING IT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE RECOMMENDED VENUE DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THE CITY REQUIRES.
BUT IF WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT FACILITIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHETHER IT'S A LIBRARY OR, UM, SOME OTHER COMMUNITY AREA THAT'S NEAR THE AREA THAT WE ARE UNDER OUR MAC JURISDICTION, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING OUT THERE AND, AND LOOKING AT THE AREAS AS MUCH.
DO WE HAVE TO BE, DOES IT HAVE TO BE INSIDE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA IS.
IF YOU'RE DOING A PRESENTATION, YOU'RE GONNA NEED A SCREEN.
BUT ON SOME OF 'EM THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT NEEDING A SCREEN ON IT LIKE THAT.
IF WE'RE JUST REVIEWING IN PUBLIC COMMENTS AND EVERYBODY GETS A, A POWERPOINT TO DO IT OUTSIDE.
I MEAN, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, WE'VE GOT, I, I DON'T THINK WE WANNA CHALLENGE TOO MUCH.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE COULD EASILY MAKE A MISTAKE ON WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DA COMPLIANT.
AND, UH, SINCE WE REALLY WANNA BE INCLUSIVE THAT AN AREA MAY SEEM GREAT TO US IN ON A LOT OF AREAS.
AND THEN WE WILL MISS A, THAT ONE.
WE'LL MAKE A LITTLE GLITCH THAT, UM, EXCLUDES SOMEONE FROM ATTENDING.
THE GIRL SCOUT BASE, THE, THE SEA SCOUT BASE, ALL THE, YEAH.
LOTS OF, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEIR TRAINING CENTER HAS HUGE, HUGE ROOM.
BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT AS CLOSE, CLOSE TO OUR JURISDICTION THAT WE SHOULD REALLY BE AWARE OF THE, UM, STATION ONE DOWNTOWN.
YOU KNOW, THE RECREATIONAL BOATERS ACTUALLY MET OUT THERE AT THE RAMP AND STOOD IN THE CIRCLE.
REALLY? DID THEY? AND HAD THEIR MEETING.