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COMMISSIONER SOTO

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HERE.

VICE

[ROLL CALL]

CHAIR TUSHNET.

HERE.

CHAIR PARKIN PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, MR. CLERK FOR THE RECORD.

COMMISSIONER BROWN IS EXCUSED FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING, AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM RECEIVED.

[1. 24-54078 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Police Oversight Commission meeting of Wednesday, March 13, 2024.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

ITEM ONE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, MARCH 13TH, 2024.

CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY COMMENT OR ON THE MINUTES? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE SECOND ITEM? ITEM TWO.

RECOMMENDATION

[2. 24-54079 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation on the Long Beach Police Department (LBPD), Office of Constitutional Policing.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING.

EXCUSE ME.

COULD WE PLEASE GET A MOTION? AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROCO.

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OCO.

THANK YOU.

I I'LL NOW HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR PARKIN.

UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WILLINGNESS TO BE AVAILABLE TO US AND DO PRESENTATIONS TO THE COMMISSION.

UM, AS I MENTIONED IN OUR FIRST MEETING, I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WE WILL BE WORKING ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON.

UM, PART OF WHAT THE OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION IS WELL AWARE OF THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITHIN THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, WHICH IS LED BY BUREAU CHIEF RUBY, MARIN JOHNSON, AND JORDAN, SORRY.

AND ADMINISTRATOR REED BRANCH WILSON, UM, IS PART OF THAT OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY CURRENTLY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AND THEIR TEAM.

UM, IT WAS AWESOME TO HEAR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

I THINK THAT THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE SOME INTERSECTION BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND, UM, THAT PARTICULAR BUREAU.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF MAYBE SOME OF THEIR WORK TO JUST BE CAUTIOUS OF THE OVERLAP, UM, AND JUST KIND OF LIKE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

SO I WANTED THEM TO COME AND INTRODUCE SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO THEM FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INSIGHT INTO THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MY NAME IS RUBY MARIN JORDAN, AND I AM THE BUREAU CHIEF OVER THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES BUREAU, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THREE DIVISIONS, ONE OF WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING.

WITH ME IS REED BRANCH WILSON, WHO'S THE ADMINISTRATOR OVER THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING.

SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE GOOD WORK THAT THE OCP IS DOING WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BROADLY, THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING ANALYZES CURRENT POLICY AND PRACTICE TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS, LEGISLATIVE MANDATES, AND COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.

IN 2019, THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND ASSISTANT CHIEF IDENTIFIED A NEED TO PROACTIVELY EVALUATE DEPARTMENT POLICIES AND PRACTICES, ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS, BEST PRACTICES, AND INCORPORATE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT TO MEET COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.

A NEW CIVILIAN POSITION CALLED PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS ADMINISTRATOR WAS CREATED TO MEET THOSE GOALS.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN HIRED FOR THAT POSITION.

IN 2020, A POLICE LIEUTENANT WAS REASSIGNED TO SUPPORT THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS ADMINISTRATOR TO ESTABLISH THE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, WHICH OFFICIALLY BEGAN OPERATIONS IN JULY, 2020, JULY 14TH, 2020.

OCP WAS A DIRECT REPORT TO THEN ASSISTANT CHIEF WALLY ISH.

IN FISCAL YEAR 23, THE DEPARTMENT INVESTED IN OCP BY BOLSTERING ITS STAFFING TO SUPPORT ITS GOALS OF INCREASING COMPLIANCE REVIEWS, TRANSPARENCY EFFORTS, AND EVALUATION OF CURRENT POLICY AND PRACTICE.

OCP HAS BECOME AN ASSET FOR THE DEPARTMENT IN MANY WAYS.

AND I HANDED OFF TO REED TO GO OVER SOME OF THE GROWTH AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THIS DIVISION.

HELLO ALL, AND APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE THROUGH MY SNIFFLES AND COUGHS.

I HAVE A SUMMER COLD, WHICH SEEMS I'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE CALIFORNIA, AND NOW I HAVE 'EM ALL THE TIME.

SO I GUESS THE JOYS OF CALIFORNIA LIVING.

BUT, UH, YES, MY NAME IS REED BRANCH WILSON.

I THINK I MET MOST OF YOU, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S NICE TO SEE

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YOU ALL AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I DO.

SO, OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, WE HAVE A HYBRID STRUCTURE OF SWORN IN, UH, PROFESSIONAL STAFF LED BY MYSELF, THE CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATOR.

WE HAVE A LIEUTENANT POSITION AS WELL AS TWO POLICE OFFICERS POSITIONS.

AND FOR A TOTAL OF 11, UH, BUDGETED POSITIONS, WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTS AND ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYSTS AS WELL.

UM, I REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT WHAT MAKES MY JOB SO EASY IS HOW TALENTED AND AND GIFTED MY TEAM IS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR HIGHLIGHTS, UH, THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR FOR LAST YEAR WAS OUT OF OUR OFFICE.

THE RICHARD A, UH, ROSE CAREER ACHIEVEMENT AWARD WAS THE LIEUTENANT WHO IS NOW A COMMANDER.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE A CIVILIAN LEADERSHIP AWARD GRADUATE.

YOU JUST LOOKED THROUGH, AND I ALSO DIDN'T MENTION IN THE BULLETS, BUT WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER OF 15 YEARS WHO WORKED IN, UH, INVEST BUREAU BEFORE THIS AND WORKING ON VERY DIFFICULT CASES, AND ALSO WORKED IN PATROL.

YOU LOOK ACROSS OUR DIVISION AND WE HAVE INCREDIBLY TALENTED PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS IMPORTANT WORK EVERY DAY.

AND, AND AGAIN, THAT JUST MAKES MY WORK THAT MUCH EASIER.

UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO GO FORWARD ONE SLIDE AND NOT 15 LIKE I'VE BEEN DOING, BUT OH GOSH, THIS IS SO SENSITIVE.

OKAY, SO THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS A PICTURE OF OUR TEAM.

UM, AND, UH, WE ALSO WALK THROUGH THE GOALS OF THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING.

AND BROADLY, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THESE GOALS, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU ALL READ EACH INDIVIDUAL GOAL.

WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THEM AS AS WE GO THROUGH THE FUTURE SLIDES.

BUT BROADLY, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THESE, THEY ARE TRYING TO INCORPORATE BEST PRACTICE PRACTICES, EMPLOYEE VOICE AND DATA INTO OUR OPERATIONS AND PRACTICES AND POLICIES TO IMPROVE OUR POLICING OPERATION, TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, AS WELL AS INCREASE THE TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEPARTMENT.

SO, AGAIN, GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL GOALS, BUT THAT'S HOW I KIND OF BROADLY THINK ABOUT THESE, UH, DIFFERENT LISTED ITEMS. OKAY, SO, OH GOSH, DARN IT.

OKAY.

UM, SO SORRY.

THE FACILITATE DATA-DRIVEN, UH, DECISION MAKING.

UM, SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO WAYS WE THINK ABOUT THE DATA-DRIVEN DECISION MAKING.

THERE'S, UH, WE THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE QUALITATIVE PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS THE QUANTITATIVE PERSPECTIVE.

THE QUA QUALITATIVE PERSPECTIVE IS LEARNING FROM OUR DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS CALLING OTHER AGENCIES, READING WHITE PAPERS AND ACADEMIC RESEARCH ON HOW A PARTICULAR ISSUE IS BEST ADDRESSED, RIGHT? LOOKING AT, IN ESSENCE, THE INDUSTRY STANDARD ON AN ISSUE.

WE'VE DONE DEEP RESEARCH ON RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION TO SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND, UH, NEW STRATEGIES TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS ON THE STREET.

WE ALSO HAVE PROVIDED CRITICAL SUPPORT TO THE LAUNCH OF THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER, THROUGH, AGAIN, DOING, TALKING TO OUR OWN EMPLOYEES FIRST, BUT ALSO REACHING OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES, ATTENDING CONFERENCES, HEARING FROM PEOPLE HOW THEY'VE HAD SUCCESSFUL REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER LAUNCHES.

UH, AND THAT GENERALLY IS ALSO, WE'VE DONE RESEARCH ON TECHNOLOGY ADOPTION ACROSS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND BUREAUS.

THE SECOND PART, THAT'S KIND OF THE QUALITATIVE.

THE SECOND QUANTITATIVE IS REALLY OPERATIONALIZING OUR DEPARTMENT DATA.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE, OUR CRIME INCIDENTS, OUR CAUSE FOR SERVICE TO UNDERSTAND CRIME TRENDS IN OUR CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING OUR RESOURCES CORRECTLY, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THAT.

UH, LAST BULLET ON THE SLIDE.

WE'RE TENTATIVELY WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TOWARD 2025 TO HAVE PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARDS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH INFORMATION MANAGEMENT DIVISION, WHICH IS ANOTHER DIVISION UNDER MY BOSS, UH, RUBY, MARIN, JORDAN, AND THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THESE PUBLICLY FACING DASHBOARDS THAT WILL EMPOWER THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO MORE EASILY ACCESS DATA, UH, IN THEIR HANDS, RIGHT? SO THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR DEPARTMENT IS WORKING FOR THEM.

I REALLY HAVE A LACK OF FAITH IN BEING ABLE TO DO THIS.

OKAY, I DID IT RIGHT.

UM, SO OCP POLICY WORKFLOW.

SO I COME FROM A, A LEAN SIX SIGMA BACKGROUND.

I HAVE A BLACK AND GREEN BELT IN LEAN SIX SIGMA, AND I APPLY THAT CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENT LENS TO DEPARTMENT POLICY AND PRACTICE.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, WHENEVER WE'RE UPDATING POLICY, WE KNOW IT'S A CONSTANT PROCESS, RIGHT? IT'S A NEVER ENDING PROCESS WHERE WE'RE CONTINUALLY TRYING TO TWEAK IT AND MAKE IT BETTER.

UM, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE DIAGRAM TO YOUR ALL'S RIGHT,

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WE IDENTIFY SOME DEFICIENCY OR OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE PRACTICE.

THEN WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH WHOEVER IS MOST IMPACTED BY THAT POLICY, TO, TO MAKE WHATEVER UPDATES THAT ARE ARE NECESSARY.

WE THEN WORK WITH VARIOUS BUREAUS ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT TO HEAR FROM THEM IF THERE'S ANY UNANTICIPATED IMPACT THAT THAT CHANGE COULD HAPPEN AND MAKE ANY, UH, CHANGES THEREAFTER.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR COMMUNITY FACING POLICIES TO HEAR COMMUNITY INPUT BEFORE THAT POLICY IS ENACTED AND HEAR FROM THEM ON THEIR PERSPECTIVES.

UH, THE EXAMPLE OF A POLICY THAT WOULDN'T GO TO THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TIMEKEEPING, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE THE VOLUNTEERS' TIME WITH HOW WE PROCESS TIME.

UM, SO WE ALSO TAKE THESE POLICIES TO THE EMPLOYEE, UH, UNIONS, OF COURSE, AND THEN WE MAKE THE UPDATE.

AND IN THAT UPDATE, WE TRY TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURES SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE POLICY MATCHES THE PRACTICE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROCESS STARTS AGAIN, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T QUITE HIT THE MARK AND WE NEED TO MAKE AN UPDATE AGAIN.

UM, AND THERE ARE THREE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WHO WORK ON THIS, THIS EFFORT GENERALLY, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF OUR, UH, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES ALSO WORK ON THIS.

THE BULK OF OUR WORK IS RIGHT HERE IN POLICY.

SO I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS AN ALL VOLUNTARY COMMITTEE THAT, UH, BEGAN IN, UH, FEBRUARY OF 2021, LAUNCHED BY MY, UH, BOSS AGAIN, UH, RAVI MARINE JORDAN, TO REVIEW POLICIES THAT IMPACT COMMUNITY POLICE INTERACTIONS.

THIS, UH, COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF DIVERSE, UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES.

AND SINCE 2021, WE'VE HAD 70 HOURS OF REVIEWED AND REVIEWED REALLY ALL POLICIES THAT YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF POLICIES THAT GARNER COMMUNITY INTEREST.

SO, UH, FACIAL RECOGNITION, USE OF FORCE, BODY WORN CAMERA, A LPR CANINE POLICY ARE JUST A COUPLE OF POLICIES THAT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS PROVIDED INPUT ON .

ALL RIGHT.

AND OUR FINAL GOAL IS TO ENACT THE RELEVANT, UH, PORTIONS OF THE RACIAL EQUITY AND RECONCILIATION REPORT, UM, FROM 2020.

AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON GOAL TWO AND THREE.

GOAL TWO, DESIGNING AND INVESTING IN COMMUNITY SAFETY.

AND, UH, VIOLENCE PREVENTION WAS A GOAL THAT OCP REALLY LED FROM THE STARTING POINT.

BUT SINCE COMMUNITY SERVICES BUREAU WAS LAUNCHED, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO, OR A YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO, UM, THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER THAT GOAL AND STRATEGY.

SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON GOAL THREE, REDESIGN, POLICE APPROACH TO COMMUNITY SAFETY.

AND THE FIRST, I, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA NEED A SIP OF WATER.

HOLD ON.

SO, UH, THE FIRST IN GOAL THREE, THERE'S MULTIPLE STRATEGIES WITHIN EACH GOAL OF THIS REPORT.

AND, UH, STRATEGY ONE WAS TO EXPLORE NON-POLICE ALTERNATIVES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

UM, WE DID WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO HELP INFORM THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE, WHICH HAS SINCE LAUNCHED.

AND WE, AND WE ALSO WORKED WITH DEPARTMENT MEMBERS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, TO PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE.

WE ARE CONTINUALLY LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT, UM, WAYS TO ENSURE THERE ARE EFFECTIVE AVENUES OF COMMUNICATION AND COLLABORATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS IMPACTING PUBLIC SAFETY, NOT JUST AT KIND OF OUR LEVEL, BUT ALSO ON THE GROUND LEVEL TO ENSURE FOLKS ARE ENACTING THE PLANS THAT ARE, ARE ENVISIONED.

UM, GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND SO THE BULK OF OUR RACIAL EQUITY WORK IS IN THE STRATEGY THREE.

AND I REALLY THINK WE'RE DOING THIS EVERY DAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE POLICY UPDATES, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY COMPLIANCE REVIEWS, RESEARCHING BEST PRACTICE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE CONSIDERING HOW WE MAY BE REDESIGNING POLICE TRA TACTICS, TRAINING, RETENTION, AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL AS, UM, WHAT'S IN PROGRESS.

SO, UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS WERE COMPLETED BEFORE I BEGAN.

SO THE LAUNCHING OF THE EARLY INTERVENTION PROGRAM WAS, UH, SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED BY, AGAIN, MY BOSS, RAVI MARINE JORDAN BEFORE I ARRIVED, UH, AT THE DEPARTMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE ENACTED, UH, QUITE A FEW POLICIES SINCE THIS REPORT CAME OUT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THEM LISTED HERE.

THE

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FAIREN BY POLICING IS A NEW POLICY THAT WAS ENACTED.

THE OTHERS ARE SIGNIFICANT UPDATES TO EXISTING POLICY.

WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CENTER FOR POLICING EQUITY TO REVIEW OUR OWN DATA.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT OUR AGREEMENT WITH THIS.

UH, WHAT'S CALLED C-P-E-C-P-E HAS RECEIVED OUR DATA ON TRAFFIC STOPS, USE OF FORCE ARRESTS, UM, INCIDENT DATA, REALLY PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR DATA THEY'VE RECEIVED, AND THEY'RE NOW ANALYZING IT.

AND THEY'RE GONNA CREATE A REPORT THAT WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE PRACTICE.

THAT REPORT SHOULD BE COMING OUT SOON, NO EXACT DATE YET, BUT VERY EXCITED FOR THAT TO BE FORTHCOMING.

UM, AND ANOTHER ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT, UH, I, I TOOK A LOT OF JOY OF BEING A PART OF THAT.

RUBY KICKED OFF, UM, IT WAS THE PARTNERSHIP WITH RAND CORPORATION, WHERE WE BROUGHT COMMUNITY AND POLICE OFFICERS TOGETHER TO HAVE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS IN, UH, A THIRD PARTY SETTING, RAN BY RAND, UM, TO HELP CREATE UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I REMEMBER A CONVERSATION SURROUNDING BODY-WORN CAMERAS, AND TALKING THROUGH BATTERY LIVE WHEN CAMERAS SHOULD BE ACTIVATED, THINGS LIKE THIS, THAT COMMUNITY MIGHT JUST HAVE MISUNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT WHY POLICE OPERATIONS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE.

AND THAT CREATING THAT COMMON SPACE WHERE WE COULD HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS CREATED.

MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING, LOOKING ACROSS THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS.

I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARDS AS WELL.

WE ALSO ARE IN PROCESS OF TRAINING ALL DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ON OUR RACIAL EQUITY TRAINING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY.

WE'RE AT ABOUT, UH, 10% OF PERSONNEL TRAINED AT THAT AT THAT MOMENT.

AND I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT, UM, OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE TO PUBLISH THAT CPE FINDINGS, UM, PUBLICLY.

AND THAT SHOULD BE, AGAIN, SOON.

DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE.

NONE OF THIS WORK IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH DIFFERENT BUREAUS EVERY SINGLE DAY TO ENACT THE VARIOUS THINGS I'VE TALKED ABOUT.

SO WE TRY VERY HARD TO FOSTER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

AND YEAH, I, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE, RUBY, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

SO, THANK YOU ALL.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

VERY GOOD.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YES, COMMISSIONER RUS.

THANKS AGAIN FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

SO, UM, REGARDING THE PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD, UH, IS THAT, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO, MAYBE LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR, UM, OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF DATA THEY SPECIFICALLY WANT? 'CAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WHERE THEY WANT, USUALLY THEY, THEY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THERE, UM, REPORTING ON SPECIFIC, UH, CRIMES OR SPECIFIC, UM, INCIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING TAILORED TO THE COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY, OR IS IT KIND OF BEING MORE BROAD AND JUST THE, THE, THE PUBLIC THAT'S USING IT IS GONNA KIND OF PULL DATA HOWEVER THEY KIND OF SEE FIT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

UM, SO WE DO GET A LOT OF PRAS FOR, UM, DATA THAT WE WOULD MAKE AVAILABLE ON THE DASHBOARD.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT KIND OF DATA THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING FOR.

UH, WE DID NOT, UH, AND, UH, CONSIDER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD IDEA.

UM, BUT IT'S PRETTY STANDARD, UM, WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR.

AND THEN COMPARING, UH, WITH OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEY SHARE ON THE DASHBOARDS, IT SEEMS PRETTY STANDARD NOT TO, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH TO, UH, WIGGLE ROOM OR TOO MUCH OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEING PUBLISHED BY OTHERS AND WHAT THE PRA REQUESTS ARE.

SO, UM, BUT CERTAINLY HAPPY TO HEAR, UH, THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS, UH, WHAT THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, COMMISSIONER.

OH, K.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S COMPRISED OF DIVERSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WAS INTERESTED IN HOW, UM, THEY'RE SELECTED AND ALSO DOES THAT TIE IN AT ALL TO THE, UM, UH, RACIAL BIAS, UH, TRAINING THAT IS BEING, UH, UTILIZED NOW? SO, NO, IT DOESN'T, UM, TIE INTO THE RACIAL BIAS TRAINING.

THE RACIAL, UH, EQUITY TRAINING IS A TRAINING THAT IS A CITYWIDE EFFORT FROM

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THE CITY.

IT'S THE RACIAL, UH, EQUITY 1 0 1 TRAINING.

THE, UH, COMMUNITY ADVISOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ANY COMMUNITY MEMBER.

WE HAVE THE POSTING, UM, ONLINE NOW, AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU SUPPLY YOUR RESUME AND A SHORT PARAGRAPH OF YOUR INTEREST WE INTERVIEW, HAVE A DISCUSSION, AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A GOOD FIT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PERSON JOINING THE CAC.

THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN GOING.

VICE CHAIR.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE CAC, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION COMES OUT OF MY OWN BACKGROUND.

AS YOU'RE DOING THIS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT MODEL, WHO IS DOING THE EVALUATION THAT FEEDS INTO THE NEXT STEP? THE MODIFICATION OR CHANGE OR, OR KEEPING IT, KEEPING A POLICY ? SO GENERALLY FOR THE FIRST QUESTION, GENERALLY IT'S ABOUT 10.

UM, IT FLUCTUATES HERE AND THERE WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, LEAVING AND PEOPLE JOINING, BUT GENERALLY AROUND 10.

AND THE ANSWER TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION REALLY DEPENDS ON THE POLICY.

CANDIDLY, A LOT, SOMETIMES WE ENACT A NEW POLICY AND IT HAS A, WE'VE CREATED AN ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURE AND WE SEE, OH, THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING AND WE CAN UPDATE.

A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS THOUGH IS WE HEAR FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE SAYING, WE DON'T, WE MISUNDERSTOOD THE INTENT.

WE ARE NOT CLEAR ON THIS PORTION.

AND THEN FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE MAKE UPDATES AND, AND MOVE ON FROM THERE.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE POLICY AS TO HOW THOSE UPDATES ARE MADE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S NOT LIKE A ONE FITS ALL ONE, WHAT'S THAT PHRASE? ONE SIZE? ONE SIZE, YEAH.

ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

I WAS MISSING ONE WORD.

SORRY.

I'LL BLAME THE COLD MEDICINE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I WILL ADD JUST ONE LITTLE POINT TO THAT IS THAT WE ALSO, PART OF THE GOAL OR THE, UH, STRUCTURE OF OCPS TO CONSTANTLY MONITOR INDUSTRY PRACTICES, UH, WE'VE, UH, BEEN JOINING, UH, ASSOCIATIONS INVOLVING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE'VE GONE TO SOME CONFERENCES JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING UP, UM, WITH OUR POLICIES AND PRACTICES TECHNOLOGY, UH, SO THAT WE'RE ALSO NOT FALLING BEHIND.

AND I SHOULDN'T PROBABLY ADMIT THIS IN A PUBLIC SETTING, BUT I ALSO LISTEN TO LOTS OF PODCASTS IN MY FREE TIME TO, UH, KEEP UP WITH, UH, THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ACADEMIC ARTICLES ON, UM, POLICING AND, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

COMMISSIONER SOTO, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, A QUESTION, A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ABOUT POLICY AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND HOW THAT'S RECEIVED BY THE DEPARTMENT.

SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN, WHEN YOU RECOMMEND A POLICY CHANGE, UM, OR POLICY CREATE TO BE CREATED, IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY, UM, ADHERED TO OR DOES IT GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND IT CAN BE SHOT DOWN, SOME ARE ADOPTED, SOME ARE NOT.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU'RE SAYING WHEN THE, UH, LIKE OCP RECOMMENDS A POLICY CHANGE? CORRECT.

SO YEAH, WE, SO GENERALLY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DIVISION OR BUREAU THAT'S MOST IMPACTED BY THE CHANGE AND MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TOGETHER.

UM, BECAUSE LIKE FOR A PATROL OPERATION, WE WOULDN'T WANNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON PATROL OPERATION WITHOUT WORKING WITH PATROL AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR PERSPECTIVE BEFORE MOVING FORWARD.

ULTIMATELY, THE CHIEF IS THE ONE WHO MAKES THE FINAL DETERMINATIONS, RIGHT? AND SO WE REQUEST WHAT, HOW IT GENERALLY WORKS IS WE REQUEST A PROJECT THROUGH THE CHIEF'S OFFICE SAYING, HEY, WE WANNA WORK ON X, Y, Z ISSUE, AND THEN GET APPROVAL FROM THE CHIEF SAYING, YES, MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

I LIKE THAT GENERAL PLAN, RIGHT? THEN WE ACTUALLY WORK THROUGH IN THAT, THAT WHOLE FLOW CHART, RIGHT? WHERE WE WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE STEPS AND THEN WE SAY, CHIEF, REMEMBER THAT PROJECT YOU ASSIGNED US? IT'S DONE.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE STEPS, AND THEN WE GO LINE BY LINE THROUGH THAT AND ENSURE THAT OUR INTENT IS MATCHED WITH WHERE HE WANTS THE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE FORWARD.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO, TO THAT.

UM, SO HOW DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S BEING EFFECTUATED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, IF, DOES OCV PLAY ANY, ANY ROLE IN THAT? OR IS THAT LEFT UP TO THE DEPARTMENT TO GET BUY-IN FROM, FROM THE OFFICERS WHO ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THE POLICY CHANGE? SO BASICALLY ASKING HOW DO WE GET BUY-IN FROM EMPLOYEES ON THE POLICY CHANGE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF OCP PLAYS ANY ROLE IN THAT.

MAYBE IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, IT, THE, THE DEPARTMENT TAKES, TAKES OVER THAT, THAT ROLE IN THAT, IN THAT TASK.

SO I'M ASKING IF OCP DOES PLAY A ROLE IN THAT AT ALL.

I, YES,

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I THINK WE DO PLAY A ROLE IN THAT.

HOWEVER, I I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO TRY TO CHALLENGE, OR I HOPE OCP CHALLENGES IS THAT IT'S NOT LIKE A DICHOTOMY BETWEEN OCP AND THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? SO THE CHANGE SHOULD BE OCCURRING.

OCP WITH WHATEVER DIVISION IS MOST IMPACTED.

WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND ON THAT CHANGE.

SO ONCE WE GET, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT CHANGE, WE'RE WORKING WITH EVERY DIVISION OR REALLY EVERY BUREAU TO TALK THROUGH THAT CHANGE AND ENSURE THERE'S NO UNANTICIPATED CONSEQUENCES.

THAT BEING SAID, POLICY, LIKE THERE ARE SOME POLICIES THAT NOT EVERYONE AGREES ON, RIGHT? AND ULTIMATELY THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT, THAT IT MAKES.

AND SO WHEN THERE'S THOSE TYPES OF CONCERNS, THAT'S WHEN THE IMPORTANCE OF TRAINING AND ROLLING OUT THAT, THAT WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP.

I DON'T KNOW.

OR GO, YEAH, SORRY.

SO I, I WAS TALKING IN GENERALITIES, BUT ONE KEY COMPONENT THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS WHEN, WHEN WE'VE RESEARCHED THE POLICY AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD DRAFT, WE TAKE IT TO WHAT'S CALLED THE POLICY REVIEW COMMITTEE.

AND THAT IS WHERE EACH BUREAU SENDS A REPRESENTATIVE AND SOME ACTUALLY SEND TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO REVIEW THE POLICY AND PROVIDE INPUT.

AND SO FROM THAT, WE GET THAT KIND OF PERSPECTIVE ON FROM A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT BUREAUS, AND THIS IS ALL KIND OF SERGEANT LEVEL GENERALLY, UM, PERSPECTIVES ON THAT POLICY BEFORE IT MOVES FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP.

SO I THINK THAT IS, THANK YOU, RUBY.

ANOTHER KEY STEP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK ONE, ONE POINT I WANTED, I GUESS TO FIND OUT MORE IS, IS THAT IF THERE'S AN EFFORT BY OCP TO, TO NOT BE FRAMED AS THE, THE BOOGEYMAN OR SOMEONE THAT'S OUT TO GET POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE YOU, YOU ARE MAKING THAT EFFORT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT, THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL MENTION ALSO IS THE IMPORTANCE OF MY TEAM AND, AND MYSELF INCLUDED, DOING RIDE-ALONGS, UM, AND TRYING TO GET OUT THERE AND MEETING OFFICERS.

SO, UM, HAVE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN SOME SQUAD MEETINGS, BUT RIDE-ALONGS, UH, ATTENDED THE EMPLOYEE ADVISORY GROUP AND TRIED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE WE'RE HAVING TODAY HONESTLY, ABOUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE ROLE THAT POLICE OFFICERS PLAY IN POLICY UPDATING.

UM, THAT IT'S NOT JUST, WELL, YEAH, THAT THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE DO.

AND SO, YEAH, THAT IS A CONTINUALLY THING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A STRONG RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP.

THANK YOU.

I SURE.

SO THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

UH, SO WHO, I'LL GO BACK A BIT.

TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ARTICLES I READ WHEN I WAS A GRADUATE STUDENT, ONE WAS CALLED STREET LEVEL BUREAUCRATS.

THAT'S COPS, THOSE ARE POLICE OFFICERS, THEY'RE TEACHERS TOO.

BUT IT'S, AND THEN THE OTHER WAS ON THE, ON THE POSSIBILITY OF EVALUATING NON-EVENTS, WHICH IS THERE'S A POLICY, BUT WHO'S MONITORING IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT POLICY? 'CAUSE IMPLEMENTATION IS ACTUALLY WHAT COUNTS WITH A POLICY.

SO, I'M SORRY, I, YOUR QUESTION IS WHO'S MONITORING IMPLEMENTATION? WELL, SO THERE, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE POLICY, BUT GENERALLY IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE SUPERVISOR, RIGHT? TO ENSURE THAT NEW POLICIES ARE ADHERED TO.

UM, AND THE REALITY IS, IS THAT, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON EVERY POLICY, IT'S LIKE ONE AND SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL, BUT GENERALLY IT'S GOING TO BE THAT DIRECT SUPERVISOR WHO'S GONNA HAVE THAT KEY ROLE OF MENTORING HIS EMPLOYEES OR HER EMPLOYEES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE LIEUTENANT OR THE, THE SUPERVISOR'S SUPERVISOR IS GOING TO NEED TO ENSURE THEIR SUPERVISORS ARE MENTORING THEIR EMPLOYEES.

I, THAT, THAT'D BE, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

IT'S GENERALLY SUPERVISION.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST ENSURING THERE ARE PROCESSES IN PLACE THAT, UM, ARE, THAT, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE BEST WAY TO FRAME IT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE POLICIES, UH, ARE ADHERED TO, OF COURSE, WHEN WE'RE DOING THE POLICY COMPLIANCE REVIEWS, BUT GENERALLY IT'S JUST IN ENSURING THE SUPERVISOR IS SUPERVISING, I GUESS.

UM, I, RUBY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD ON TO THAT? I WOULD JUST ADD THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH WE DISTRIBUTE ANY CHANGES, UH, TO POLICY, UH, DIRECTLY TO EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE.

AND IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW IT.

UM, MANY OF THEM HAVE AN ATTACHED TRAINING BULLETIN.

SO THE TRAINING BULLETIN

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EXPLAINS HOW THE POLICY, UH, IS IMPACTING THE WORK THAT, UH, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE DOING.

UH, AND THEN YEAH, WE RELY ON THE, UM, OR IMPOSE UPON THE SERGEANTS OR EXPECT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUPERVISING OR ALL VISORS REALLY, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUPERVISING THEIR EMPLOYEES AND ENSURING THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE POLICY.

DOES THAT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE RESPONSES.

UH, SCENE, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM? ITEM THREE IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE

[3. 24-54080 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation providing an overview of the City Auditor’s process.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

A PRESENTATION PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY AUDITOR'S PROCESS.

IF I COULD GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE THIS REVIEW.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARES TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR PARKIN.

NEXT WE WILL HAVE DEPUTY CITY AUDITOR ALVIN CHU DOING A PRESENTATION.

IT'S BASICALLY A HIGH LEVEL ON AUDITING, UH, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS ALVIN CHU.

I'M A DEPUTY CITY AUDITOR IN THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR AUDIT PROCESS, UM, BASED OFF OF THE PRIOR PRESENTATION, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING OF OCP, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP THERE.

SO, UM, I'LL TRY AND BE, UH, PRETTY CLEAR HOW WE DO THINGS, AND MAYBE THAT'LL HELP INFORM YOU GUYS ON HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO PROCEED GOING FORWARD.

SO, UH, THINGS I WANT TO COVER TODAY.

UH, WHAT ARE AUDITS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK, UH, HOPEFULLY SOME PEOPLE HAVE AN IDEA.

UM, I LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS AN AMBASSADOR FOR AUDITORS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE AUDITOR NAME IS SCARY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

A LOT OF FOLKS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF AN AUDIT AND MAY NOT HAVE ENJOYED THAT EXPERIENCE, AND IT'S MAYBE SOMETHING AKIN TO GOING TO THE DENTIST'S OFFICE.

UM, I'M HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY AUDITS ARE IMPORTANT.

UM, WHY ARE OUR AUDITS LEGITIMATE? UH, HOW DO WE CONDUCT OUR AUDITS? WHAT MAKES OUR AUDITS EFFECTIVE, COMMON MISTAKES AND PITFALLS IN THE AUDIT PROCESS? AND THEN PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OR SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF AUDITS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO HOPEFULLY I CAN CONVINCE YOU GUYS BY THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, THE AUDITS ARE ACTUALLY GOOD, AND THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING TO BE AFRAID OF.

UM, SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO GO OVER IS, UH, WHAT MAKES OUR AUDITS LEGITIMATE AND HOW DO WE ACHIEVE AUDIT QUALITY? SO THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE ADHERE TO PROFESSIONAL AUDITING STANDARDS.

WE HAVE STANDARDS JUST LIKE OTHER PROFESSIONS.

UM, THESE STANDARDS ENSURE COMPETENCE, INTEGRITY, OBJECTIVITY, INDEPENDENCE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, INCLUDING THE PLANNING, CONDUCTING, AND REPORTING PROCESS IN AN AUDIT.

AND THIS REALLY HELPS THE USERS OF OUR AUDIT REPORTS TO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THESE REPORTS AND THE INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN IT IS OBJECTIVE AND RELIABLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IS, UH, ANALOGY IS, UM, IF WE DID NOT FOLLOW STANDARDS, IT WOULD BE LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A JOURNALISTIC ARTICLE AND AN OP-ED.

WE ARE NOT HERE TO PROVIDE OPINIONS ON THINGS BASED OFF OF OUR PERSONAL BELIEFS.

WE'RE HERE TO LOOK AT THINGS OBJECTIVELY AND TO FOLLOW A SET OF STANDARDS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS FACTUAL.

UM, ANOTHER MAJOR IMPORTANT PILLAR TO AUDITING IS INDEPENDENCE.

UM, INDEPENDENCE IS WHAT GIVES US, UH, ADDITIONAL LEG TO STAND ON WHEN WE SAY, HEY, LOOK, OUR AUDIT RESULTS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER AND THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT, .

I I DON'T HAVE A HORSE IN THE RACE.

I AM JUST HERE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING

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OBJECTIVELY AND TO STATE THE FACTS, UH, ANALYZE INFORMATION, PRESENT MY FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION IS ALSO INDEPENDENT, AND THAT'S WHAT GIVES THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY WHEN YOU MAY PURSUE POTENTIAL AUDITS IN THE FUTURE.

UM, THE, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE NOT APPOINTED BY THE POLICE CHIEF.

YOU DO NOT REPORT TO THE POLICE CHIEF, YET.

YOU ARE AUDITING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THE SAME FALLS TRUE FOR THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THE CITY AUDITOR.

SHE IS NOT APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.

SHE'S NOT APPOINTED BY COUNCIL, SHE'S NOT APPOINTED BY ANYONE.

SHE DOESN'T REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SHE'S ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, AND SHE REPORTS TO THE PEOPLE.

SO WE HAVE A ORGANIZATIONAL INDEPENDENCE, WHICH GIVES US CREDIBILITY WHEN WE, UH, AUDIT ANY DEPARTMENT OR COMMISSION OR ANY TYPE OF PROGRAM.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE FOCUS ON IS INTERNAL QUALITY CONTROLS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR AUDITS UNDERGO A PROCESS, UM, SO THAT THE, THE AUDIT ITSELF IS AS ACCURATE AND AS, UM, FOLLOWS OUR STANDARDS AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WE HAVE SUPERVISORS THAT REVIEW OUR AUDIT REPORTS.

WE HAVE INDEPENDENT INTERNAL QUALITY REVIEWERS.

SO ANOTHER DEPUTY MAY REVIEW MY AUDIT TO MAKE SURE THAT I FOLLOWED STANDARDS AND THAT I'M PRESENTING THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY.

UM, AND WE ALSO PERFORM ANNUAL PROCEDURES SUCH AS, UH, UH, EVALUATING OUR QUALITY CONTROL ASSURANCE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, HOW ARE WE DOING? CAN WE IMPROVE INTERNALLY OURSELVES? AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO DO EXTERNAL QUALITY CONTROL REVIEW.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS NEXT WEEK.

WE'VE GOT THREE AUDITORS FROM OTHER AUDIT SHOPS THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR OFFICE, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING US QUESTIONS.

THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING OVER OUR PAPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING AUDITING STANDARDS.

SO I WANT TO DESCRIBE WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES, AND I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OVERLAP WITH THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.

UM, WHAT ARE THE AUDITS THAT WE DO? UH, TYPICALLY WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT AUDITORS, THEY'VE FOR SOME REASON JUST AUTOMATICALLY THINK ABOUT THE IRS AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YOU CAN DO MY TAXES.

AND IT'S LIKE, NO, WE DON'T DO THAT.

UM, INSTEAD, WHAT WE DO SPECIFICALLY HERE ARE PERFORMANCE AUDITS.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN FINANCIAL AUDITS, PERFORMANCE AUDITS.

THE, THE OFFICIAL DEFINITION, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ASSESSMENT OF PROGRAMS, FUNCTIONS, OPERATIONS, OR MANAGEMENT.

AND IT'S DESIGNED TO ENHANCE PERFORMANCE, COST SAVINGS, EFFICIENCY OR SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS.

IF I CAN SUMMARIZE THAT, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORK BETTER.

THAT'S ALL IT REALLY IS.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CITY AUDITOR'S, UM, UH, MISSION AND GOALS.

UM, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN A COMPLIANCE OR A FINANCIAL AUDIT, UH, COMPLIANCE AUDIT.

YOU'VE GOT LIKE A CONTRACT, OR YOU'VE GOT SPECIFIC LAWS OR REGULATIONS, AND YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT A FUNCTION IS PERFORMING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE LAWS OR REGULATIONS OR CONTRACT.

A FINANCIAL AUDIT IS SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND OPINING ON WHETHER OR NOT THE INFORMATION PRESENTED WITHIN THOSE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IS, IS TRUE.

WE DON'T DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS, ALTHOUGH WE SOMETIMES DO A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLIANCE AUDITS.

WE FOCUS ON THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT.

HOW CAN WE MAKE THINGS BETTER? SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING OUR AUDITS? THE VERY FIRST THING IS FIGURING OUT WHAT DO WE WANT TO AUDIT? UM, THE WORLD IS OUR OYSTER, BUT WHERE DO WE START? SO THE WAY THAT OUR OFFICE SELECTS AUDITS, IT'S USING A RISK BASED AND IMPACT APPROACH, AND IT FOCUSES ON FINANCIAL, OPERATIONAL, AND PUBLIC NEEDS.

WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES IN THE WORLD.

WE WOULD LOVE TO AUDIT EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE CITY, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY.

SO WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY SELECTIVE.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE GOTTA ALSO BE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE AUDIT TOPICS, THEY CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE.

IT CAN BE FROM A RISK ASSESSMENT THAT WE PERFORM.

IT COULD BE FROM A FRAUD HOTLINE TIP THROUGH THE CITY AUDITOR'S FRAUD HOTLINE.

UH, OR IT CAN BE FROM INPUT FROM KEY STAKEHOLDERS SUCH AS COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR, UH, CITY MANAGEMENT, CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE, OR COMMISSIONS, OR IT CAN BE FROM THE PUBLIC.

IT CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE.

AND WE'VE GOTTA BE FLEXIBLE.

UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS, UH, LIKE OF RISK, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT IS THERE A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SOMETHING GOING WRONG? AND THEN

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YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT.

IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG, HOW BIG OF AN IMPACT WOULD THAT BE? SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

UM, ARE WE GOING TO AUDIT, UH, THE, UH, THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO POTENTIALLY POTENTIAL NUCLEAR FALLOUT? YOU KNOW, THAT IMPACT IS VERY, VERY HIGH ON THE CITY, BUT THE RISK OF THAT HAPPENING, I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE IS RELATIVELY LOW, RIGHT? ON THE FLIP SIDE, ARE WE GOING TO AUDIT SOMETHING WHERE, UM, MAYBE A CASHIER STEALING, UH, THE POCKET CHANGE AND NOT GIVING CHANGE TO PEOPLE THAT, THAT POTENTIAL OF THAT HAPPENING MIGHT BE HIGH, BUT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THAT IS NOT THAT HIGH.

SO WE'VE GOTTA BALANCE THE RISK AND THE IMPACT.

ONCE WE'VE GOT AN AUDIT TOPIC IDEA FIGURED OUT, WE THEN GO THROUGH THE STAGES OF OUR AUDIT.

UM, IT STARTS WITH PRELIMINARY RESEARCH AND, AND PLANNING.

UH, SO SIMILAR TO, UM, UH, THE OCP, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, THEY COME UP WITH AN IDEA OF A POLICY AND THEY RUN IT THROUGH WITH THEIR POLICE CHIEF.

SAME THING FOR US.

WE, WE THINK OF AN AUDIT IDEA, AND THEN WE START LOOKING INTO IT, FIGURING OUT WHAT, UM, THE, THE, THE PARAMETERS AROUND A POTENTIAL AUDIT OBJECTIVE.

UM, WE, WE START TO TRY AND SCOPE IT.

AND, AND THE PURPOSE OF ALL OF THIS IS REALLY JUST TO GATHER INFORMATION ON THE TOPIC.

AND, AND, AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE POTENTIAL FINDINGS.

UM, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T THINK ANYTHING MIGHT GO WRONG, THEN MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO AUDIT IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA WALK INTO AN AUDIT WITH, UH, PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF WHAT WE MIGHT FIND.

ONCE WE HAVE OUR OBJECTIVES AND SCOPE, THEN WE GO INTO FIELD WORK.

UM, AND THIS IS A PROCESS OF GATHERING AND ANALYZING EVIDENCE.

UM, WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH A REVIEW OF DOCUMENTATION.

WE CAN INTERVIEW PEOPLE, WE CAN ANALYZE DATA LIKE THE OCP DOES.

THEY DO RIDE ALONGS.

WE MIGHT DO OBSERVATIONS.

WE'LL GO AND VISIT THAT FUNCTION AND WATCH THEM PERFORM THEIR JOB FOR A DAY OR TWO.

AND THEN ONCE WE'VE COMPLETED FIELD WORK, WE THEN HAVE REPORTING.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GO OVER OUR AUDIT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WHAT MAKES OUR AUDITS EFFECTIVE? UM, WE ASK MANAGEMENT TO RESPOND TO OUR AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THE SCREEN, THE LEFT SIDE IN WHITE, THAT IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE RELATING TO OUR AUDIT FINDINGS AND EVERYTHING.

SHADED YELLOW IS COMPLETED BY MANAGEMENT.

WE ASK MANAGEMENT TO AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION.

WE ALSO GIVE THEM SPACE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

WE ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A TARGET DATE FOR IMPLEMENTATION, NOT JUST, I AGREE WITH IT, AND I'LL GET TO EVENTUALLY, BUT I AGREE WITH IT AND I, I PROMISE YOU I'LL GET THIS DONE.

I ANTICIPATE BY THIS DATE, UM, LIKE THE OCP TWO, WE ALSO HAVE A ITERATIVE PROCESS.

IT'S NOT WHEN WE ISSUE REPORTS.

IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THE AUDITEE HAS SEEN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGHOUT THE AUDIT PROCESS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM.

WE HAVE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THEM, AND WE GO OVER THE FINDINGS IN ADVANCE.

WE DISCUSS POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES WITH OUR AUDITS, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE WOULD LOVE TO SAY IS, WE NEED MORE MONEY IN THIS PROGRAM.

THEY NEED MORE STAFF, THEY NEED MORE RESOURCES.

BUT THAT CAN'T BE THE ANSWER.

SO WE'VE GOTTA GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE.

THINK ABOUT OTHER SOLUTIONS.

UM, LOOK AT WHAT OTHER SHOPS ARE DOING, OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE DOING, HOW ARE THEY SOLVING THEIR PROBLEM? CAN WE TAKE SOME OF THEIR BEST PRACTICES AND APPLY IT HERE? BUT HAVING MANAGEMENT RESPOND, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEY TYPICALLY AGREE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN THEIR BUY-IN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

THAT THEN MAKES OUR AUDIT SO MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE, BECAUSE WHAT GOOD IS AN AUDIT? IF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR YOUR FINDINGS, THEY'RE NOT AGREED TO.

SO I WANTED TO GO OVER SOME PITFALLS.

UM, COMMON MISTAKES IN THE AUDIT PROCESS, THINGS TO WATCH OUT FOR.

UM, ONE OF THEM IS OVERLY BROAD AUDIT OBJECTIVES.

UH, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WE WANT TO EVALUATE THE EFFICIENCY OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES.

THAT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT? BUT WHAT ARE WE MISSING IN THERE? WELL, WHAT'S THE DATE RANGE? ARE WE LOOKING AT ABOUT IT IN PERPETUITY, OR IS IT MAYBE THE PAST TWO YEARS? UH, WHAT EFFICIENCY OF WHAT, UM, ARE WE LOOKING AT RESPONSE TIMES? ARE WE LOOKING AT RESOURCE UTILIZATION? UM,

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OR ARE WE LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF CALLS THAT ARE BEING RESPONDED TO? YOU KNOW, BUILDING THAT INTO YOUR AUDIT OBJECTIVE IS IMPORTANT.

ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS A LOT IS SCOPE CREEP.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, GOING BACK TO MY EVALUATING THE EFFICIENCY OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES.

UH, WHAT IF DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS YOU'RE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, SHOULD WE ALSO BE LOOKING AT NON-EMERGENCY SERVICE, UH, RESPONSES? UM, SO YOU SETTING YOUR SCOPE AND STICKING TO IT.

OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN ADJUST IT DEPENDING ON, ON THE AUDIT.

BUT BEING COGNIZANT THAT, YOU KNOW, AUDITS HAVE, UH, THEY SOMETIMES HAVE BIRTHDAYS AND WE TRY AND AVOID THEM.

SO TRYING TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT EXPANDING TOO MUCH, MAKING SURE THAT YOUR DATA IS RELIABLE, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE ANALYZING THE RIGHT DATA.

UM, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE AN UNRESPONSIVE OR SLOW AUDITEE.

WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS HAVE AN ENTRANCE CONFERENCE BEFORE THE AUDIT STARTS TO GO OVER EXPECTATIONS, COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL, UH, POINT OF CONTACT, ET CETERA.

UH, AUDITEE SURPRISES.

WILL, WILL WRITE A REPORT.

EVERYTHING SEEMS FINE.

AND THEN THE AUDITEE COMES BACK AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THIS.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS, YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

AND IT'S LIKE, I REALLY WOULD'VE HOPED THAT DURING THOSE 30 CONVERSATIONS WE HAD, YOU WOULD'VE BROUGHT THAT UP, UH, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE RESOLVED IT RATHER THAN DUKING IT OUT.

UH, ON, ON, ON PAPER BIAS AND POTENTIAL INDEPENDENCE ISSUES.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S, UH, YOU'VE GOT ISSUES WITH YOUR INDEPENDENCE, THEN YOUR AUDIT MAY BE JEOPARDY, UH, IN JEOPARDY.

UM, OUR OFFICE, WE DO ANNUAL INDEPENDENCE FORMS WHERE EVERYONE STATES THAT THEY'RE INDEPENDENT, AND WE ALSO LIST DOWN INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY THAT MAY, WE MAY HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT ENDS UP BEING AN AUDIT IN THAT, UM, THAT PERSON'S, UH, AREA, THEN WE WILL SAY, OKAY, THIS PERSON CANNOT WORK ON IT BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL INDEPENDENCE ISSUES.

AND THEN EVERY AUDIT PROJECT ITSELF, WE ALSO FILL OUT INDEPENDENCE FORMS. AGAIN, RE-CERTIFYING THAT WE ARE, UH, FREE AND CLEAR AUDIT REPORT TONE AND COMMUNICATING FINDINGS.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

WE TRY TO STAY NEUTRAL.

UH, HOWEVER, WE DON'T WANT TO WHITEWASH OR DOWNPLAY THE FINDINGS.

THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, AND WE LEAVE OUR OPINIONS AT HOME.

THE IMPORTANCE OF AUDITS ON LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO, QUICK SET OF FACTS, 41% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS FOR THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

41% FOR ONE DEPARTMENT.

THIS AVERAGE IS $255 MILLION ANNUALLY.

THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND, UM, BASED ON MY READING OF THE BUDGET BOOK, THE POLICE OVERSIGHT DEPARTMENT AND COMMISSION, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE IN THIS ROLE ABOUT, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UH, CONDUCTING AUDITS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS CONDUCT SYSTEMIC REVIEWS OF LBPD OPERATIONS, POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND TRAINING, UM, REVIEW POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS, POLICY PROCEDURES, AND TRAINING, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON SUCH REVIEW.

UM, WE HOPE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION AND THE OVERSIGHT DEPARTMENT, UH, PLAYS AN ACTIVE ROLE IN IN THE FUTURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY BE A HELPFUL RESOURCE, UH, IN ADDITION TO OUR OFFICE AND MYSELF AND CITY, OUR LAURA DOWD IS, UH, WE, OUR OFFICE DID A 2007 STUDY ON LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT EFFICIENCY, AND THAT'S THAT SPIRAL BOUND, UM, REPORT THAT I JUST PASSED OUT TO YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

IT'S NOTHING PRIVATE.

WE HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, BUT THERE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS IN HERE THAT I THINK MIGHT BE RELEVANT TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.

UM, THIS REPORT WAS, UH, PERFORMED BY AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT WE HIRED, AND THERE WAS A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WAS CREATED, WHICH INVOLVED LBPD COMMAND STAFF, THE HR DEPARTMENT, AND THE CITY, OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER, AND IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL INITIATIVES IN IZATION, REDEPLOYMENT TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES, AND FINE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE AREAS ARE OF INTEREST.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE THAT REPORT WAS RELEASED, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES PERSIST TODAY.

UM, ANOTHER, UH, ITEM THAT I HAD JUST PREVIOUSLY PASSED OUT, AGAIN, IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE CITY AUDITOR'S WEBSITE.

IT'S THE CITY AUDITOR'S POLICE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY OIL PRODUCTION ACT, IMPACT SUMMARY.

UH, WE CALL THIS THE PROP H UH, PROPOSITION, H UH, IMPACT.

UM, SO IN 2006,

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CITY OTTER LAURA DOUD IDENTIFIED THAT LONG BEACH'S OIL PRODUCTION TAX WAS NOT IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES.

IT WAS TOO LOW.

AND SO, UH, UH, A MEASURE WAS PLACED ON THE BALLOT.

AND, UM, IT RAISED THE, UH, THE TAX AMOUNT ON OIL PRODUCERS, AND THAT MONEY WAS TO BE SPENT SOLELY ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SINCE IT WAS PASSED, IT'S RESULTED IN, UH, $52 MILLION IN NEW REVENUE.

AND IT'S USED TO HELP FUND HOMELESS OUTREACH AND ASSISTANCE, AND ALSO SUPPORTING THE POLICE AND FIRE ACADEMIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANOTHER WAY THAT WE, UH, BROADCAST THE, UH, THE IMPACT OF, UH, OF, OF OUR WORK IN OUR OFFICE.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S TWO VERY DIFFERENT FORMS, UM, OF, OF KIND OF DOING, REPORTING SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER AS YOU GUYS, UH, MAYBE WALKED DOWN THIS PATHWAY OF AUDITS.

UM, WE'VE ALSO PERFORMED AN AUDIT IN 2015 ON THE POLICE AND FIRE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER OVERTIME.

AND THIS AUDIT CAME FROM OUR FRAUD HOTLINE.

AND OUR OBJECTIVE THERE WAS REALLY TO EVALUATE THE STAFFING PRACTICES AND HOW THEY MANAGE OVERTIME AND SPECIAL PAY COMPENSATION.

UM, THROUGHOUT OUR AUDIT FIELD WORK, WE, YOU KNOW, DID INTERVIEWS.

UH, WE DID BENCHMARKING.

UH, WE REVIEWED BEST PRACTICES, ANALYZED PAYROLL RECORDS, AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT, UM, COMMUNICATION CENTERS WERE SEVERELY UNDERSTAFFED FOR THE YEARS THAT WE REVIEWED.

AND THEIR RECRUITMENT AND HIRING WAS VERY LENGTHY AND NOT ABLE TO MEET STAFFING NEEDS THE WAY THAT THEY WERE ALLOCATING OVER TIME.

IT WAS, UM, THE TOP FIVE DISPATCHERS WERE, WERE WORKING 30 TO 50% OF THE TOTAL OVERTIME, AND THAT THEY WERE USING A MANUAL PROCESS FOR ASSIGNING OVERTIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THAT RECRUITMENT AND HIRING PROCESS, UH, HOW TO RESTRICT THE HOURS FOR OVERTIME BEING ALLOWED, AND THEN AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM FOR SCHEDULING.

WE ALSO HAD THE POLICE EVIDENCE CONTROL SECTION PERFORMANCE AUDIT IN 2020.

UM, THIS ONE WON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUDITOR'S NIGHT AWARD.

IT'S THE HIGHEST AWARD.

UM, AND THROUGH THAT AUDIT FIELD WORK, WE LOOKED AT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, BENCHMARKED, CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS, OBSERVATIONS, BUT WE ALSO ANALYZED SECURITY ACCESS LOGS AND EVALUATED THE EVIDENCE CONTROL DOCUMENTATION.

UM, WHAT WE DIDN'T DO, AND THIS GOES BACK TO THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF SCOPE CREEP AND HAVING A FOCUS OBJECTIVE, IS WE DID NOT EXAMINE HOW OFFICERS OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL HANDLED PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE PRIOR TO SUBMISSION TO THE EVIDENCE CONTROL.

SO, UM, HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY COLLECTED, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

WE JUST LOOKED AT, ONCE IT GOT INTO EVIDENCE CONTROL, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH IT? AND WE HAD NINE FINDINGS FROM THIS AUDIT, UH, RELATED TO SECURITY.

THERE'S NO SECURITY ALARM.

UM, THERE WERE TOO MANY PEOPLE WITH ACCESS, 15 INDIVIDUALS HAD ACCESS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD ACCESS, AND 15 OTHER INDIVIDUALS HAD MORE ACCESS THAN WAS NECESSARY.

THERE WAS 191 HIGH RISK ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN INVENTORY, AND INSTEAD OF PERFORMING MONTHLY MONEY DISPOSITIONS, THEY ONLY DID IT EIGHT TIMES IN THE ONE YEAR THAT WE LOOKED AT.

AND THE DEPARTMENT AGREED WITH MOST OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I HOPE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS HELPFUL, UH, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN, UM, USE IN THE FUTURE, AS I KNOW THAT AUDITS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ONE OF THE STATED GOALS FOR THE POLICE OVERSIGHT DEPARTMENT.

OPEN TO QUESTIONS.

THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I'VE HAD A LOT OF AUDITS, UH, FINANCIAL, INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL AUDITS, AND I GET QUITE EXCITED WHEN WE, UH, COME OUT, UH, WITH SMILEY FACES.

SO IT'S NOT A SCARY THING TO ME.

BUT, UH, UH, I NOTICED, UM, IN THE NUMBERS THOUGH, THAT THE PRESENTATION MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE 40, IT WAS 41% OF THE JOURNAL BUDGET, AND IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, IT'S 45.3.

I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT DISCREPANCY WAS.

I TOOK A AVERAGE, I THINK, OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, SO IT MAY BE 45.3 TODAY.

UH, GOT IT.

BUT I FELT IT WAS BEST TO DO A GENERAL TREND OVER THE PAST, I THINK FIVE FISCAL YEARS.

GOT IT.

COMMISSIONER ROSCOE? YES.

THANK

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YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, REGARDING KIND OF YOUR TEAM'S WORKLOAD.

SO I THINK YOU SLIGHTLY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE AUDIT BIRTHDAYS, AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE AUDITS THAT ARE KIND OF ON A ROTATIONAL BASIS, AND THEN YOU ALSO RECEIVE, UM, REQUESTS FROM STAKEHOLDERS.

SO WHAT DOES THAT PERCENTAGE LOOK LIKE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AUDIT AUDITS THAT ARE ON A ROTATIONAL BASIS VERSUS THE ONES THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING FROM, LIKE HOTLINES OR COUNCIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND THEN ARE YOU, UM, IS YOUR TEAM MORE PROACTIVE IN FINDING NEW THINGS TO AUDIT, OR ARE YOU KIND OF WORKING ON BACKLOG, UM, TO TRY TO CATCH UP TO SOME OF THOSE? YEAH, SO IN TERMS OF THE, YOU KNOW, AUDITS, THERE'S CERTAIN RECURRING AUDITS, UM, AND WE HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HOW LONG THOSE AUDITS TAKE, UH, AND WHEN THEY POP UP DURING THE YEAR.

SO WE CAN KIND OF PROJECT THOSE OUT.

UM, WHAT WE DO IS WE WILL TYPICALLY TAKE THE NUMBER OF AUDITORS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE APPLY A PERCENTAGE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES TOO, LIKE THE FRAUD HOTLINE, UH, A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK TOO.

SO WE KNOW THAT X NUMBER PERCENTAGE OF AN AUDITOR'S HOURS, UH, CAN BE USED TOWARDS ACTUAL AUDIT WORK.

AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL AUDITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? AND WE START ASSIGNING THEM OUT.

WE, WE, WE, AS PART OF OUR AUDIT PLAN, AND WE ALSO ESTIMATE HOW LONG AN AUDIT IS GONNA TAKE, DEPENDING ON ITS OBJECTIVE AND ITS PROPOSED WORK PLAN.

AND SO THAT GIVES US A GENERAL, YOU KNOW, BASELINE OF, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS MANY AUDITS THAT WILL TAKE X AMOUNT OF TIME FOR X NUM NUMBER OF AUDITORS, UM, BUT THEN WE DON'T FILL IT TO CAPACITY BECAUSE SOMETHING MIGHT COME UP DURING THE PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THEN IT BECOMES JUGGLING, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE AT IN AN AUDIT PROCESS? AND WE'VE GOT A NEW AUDIT REQUEST THAT CAME IN FROM COUNCIL, WHERE DOES THAT SLOT IN? UM, SO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO EXACT SCIENCES, KIND OF LIKE TETRIS IN A WAY, OR, OR LEGO PIECES KIND OF FITTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

UM, BUT YEAH, SOMETIMES WHEN I MENTION BIRTHDAYS, IT'S BECAUSE AN AUDIT HAS TAKEN LONGER THAN A YEAR TO, TO COMPLETE.

SO THAT AUDIT ITSELF HAS A BIRTHDAY.

WE GENERALLY TRY AND COMPLETE AN AUDIT IN UNDER A YEAR.

UH, IDEALLY IT'S IN SIX TO NINE MONTHS, BUT SOMETIMES THE AUDITEE IS A LITTLE BIT SLOWER.

UH, SOMETIMES THE SCOPE EXPANDS AND WE NEED IT TO EXPAND.

SOMETIMES THERE'S MORE DATA OR SOMETIMES THE DATA THAT COMES AND NEEDS MORE MANIPULATION AND MASSAGING AND CLEANUP TO GET IT TO A POINT THAT WE CAN ANALYZE IT.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITIZATION OF AUDIT TOPICS, UM, WE KIND OF HAVE A LIST THAT WE GO BACK TO WHEN THINGS ARE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT LIGHT AND WE'LL SAY, HEY, LET'S REVISIT SOME OF THESE OLDER AUDIT IDEAS THAT WE MAY HAVE PUSHED ASIDE BECAUSE THERE WERE HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS. SO WE KIND OF HAVE A, A, A PIGGY BANK OF AUDITS THAT WE WANT TO GET TO.

UM, BUT USUALLY, YOU KNOW, THINGS COME UP, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE DOING THE HOMELESSNESS AUDIT RIGHT NOW.

HOMELESSNESS IS A HUGE ISSUE.

UH, AND IT'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE, BUT, UM, IF YOU WENT BACK MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS HIGH PRIORITY AS IT IS TODAY.

SO WE'VE GOTTA BE FLEXIBLE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, WHERE WE DON'T FULLY, YOU KNOW, ASSIGN EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME SO THAT SOMETHING COMES IN, WE CAN SLOT IT IN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER? SODA? YES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

AND I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS, UH, A SHORT COMMENT.

I, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S, THIS TYPE OF WORK IS, IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT TO, TO ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING IN A BUREAUCRACY AND, AND ESPECIALLY WITH AN AGENCY THAT TAKES ALMOST HALF OF THE CITY'S BUDGET AND, AND YOU'RE GOING UP AGAINST, UM, SOME POWERFUL FORCES, UM, THAT ARE RESISTANT TO CHANGE AND YOU CAN'T, UM, EFFECTUATE ANY CHANGE WITHOUT SHOWING THEM NUMBERS.

UM, SO HAVING AN OFFICE LIKE YOURS, UH, IN THE CITY IS, IS, IS ABSOLUTELY, UH, NECESSARY.

AND I THINK AS A COMMISSIONER, I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO SEEING THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, UM, COLLABORATING WITH YOU, UM, TO, TO DO, TO ACCOMPLISH SOME, SOME IMPORTANT AND IMPACTFUL AUDITS.

THANK YOU.

UM, SCENE, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM? MOTION CARRIES.

COULD WE PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM,

[4. 24-54081 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation on Police Oversight Commission Charter language.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION CHARTER LANGUAGE.

THANK YOU.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE, BUT FIRST, ARE THERE A COUPLE OF SPECIAL GUESTS YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE COMMISSION TO? OH, THANK YOU.

I WAS GONNA SAVE THEM UNTIL, UH,

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THE, WHAT IS IT? DIRECTOR UPDATES, BUT I'M GONNA INTRODUCE 'EM NOW.

LEMME INTRODUCE MYSELF SINCE I'M INTRODUCING THE ITEM.

I'M KIDDING.

UM, SO WE'LL DO IT NOW, BUT THEY'RE STILL GONNA STAY FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING, SO DON'T THINK THEY HELPING OUT.

I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA LET 'EM GET OUTTA HERE A LITTLE EARLY, BUT NO, NOT AT ALL.

UM, SO I THINK THE LAST TIME WE MET AT THE FIRST MEETING, I ONLY HAD JOSE AND PATRICK, SO WE HAVE GROWN A LITTLE BIT SINCE THEN.

UH, VERY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, ALIA FOWLER.

UM, SHE'S BEEN ON SINCE THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

SHE'S DOING QUITE WELL.

AND THEN WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, KIMBERLY USHER, UH, KIMBERLY JOIN US.

SHE IS OUR INVESTIGATOR.

SHE HAS A TF EXPERIENCE, UM, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE CITY OF HOPE ON THEIR DEI PROJECTS.

UH, SHE WILL BE WORKING WITH PATRICK AS THE INVESTIGATIVE ARM.

UM, AND WE HAVE AN ADMIN ANALYST THAT WILL BE STARTING ON AUGUST THE 12TH.

HE'S CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BACKGROUNDS AND HIRING.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND WE WILL TOUCH ON THE OTHER TWO OPENINGS IN THE OFFICE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN MY PRESENTATION.

DO I START NOW? OH, WHERE'S THE CLICKER PLEASE? THANK YOU.

YOU GOT IT.

YOU GONNA CLICK FOR ME? YEAH.

OKAY.

NOW I'M GONNA TELL YOU GUYS EARLY, IF I DON'T COVER ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING WHERE YOU HAVE ZERO QUESTIONS AT THE END, IT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.

SO , I'LL DO MY BEST TO COVER ALL THINGS.

UM, JUST GIVING YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

SO THIS INFORMATION IS FOUND IN THE CITY CHARTER.

YOU WILL SEE THE ACTUAL ARTICLE LATER ON IN ONE OF MY SLIDES.

BUT THIS INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND.

IT WAS A PART OF YOUR, UM, RECRUITMENT PACKET, IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU SIGNED UP TO BE A COMMISSIONER.

AND I KNOW HOW THOROUGHLY YOU ALL WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PART OF THAT PRESENTATION, BUT I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER IT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, THERE WILL BE A LATER DATE FOR THE OFFICE TO COME IN AND TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE OFFICE WORK, BUT I WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY KIND OF FOCUS ON THIS.

UM, JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO ONE OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, PRESENTATIONS.

AT OUR NEXT MEETING, THE RACIAL EQUITY OFFICE WILL BE COMING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE RACIAL EQUITY TOOLKIT.

UM, I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE IMPERATIVE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY BIT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE WALKING IN THAT RACIAL EQUITY LENS.

UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO THE CAC, UM, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAS.

UM, SO THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMPLAINT COMMISSION HAS BEEN AROUND IN LONG BEACH FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

THEY HAD THEIR LAST MEETING LAST OCTOBER.

PART OF THE WORK OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMISSION WAS TO RECEIVE AND REVIEW COMMUNITY COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THROUGH ITS TERM OF THOSE 30 YEARS, THERE WAS SOME MOVEMENT THAT TOOK PLACE TO KIND OF CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE COMMISSION TOWARD THE LATTER YEARS.

BUT BECAUSE OF A LOT THAT WAS GOING ON NATIONALLY, UM, THERE WAS A PUSH TO BASICALLY CHANGE THAT.

SO THE COMMISSION AS IT STOOD, MADE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING COMPLAINTS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE COMMISSION HAD LIMITED ACCESS TO PERSONNEL FILES AND CASE INVESTIGATIONS.

UM, THE INFORMATION AS PART OF THE CASE INVESTIGATIONS, THERE WAS SOME MOVEMENT TO ADD MORE TO THEIR PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDED OFFICERS, UM, INTERVIEWS TOWARDS THE END OF THE COMMISSION'S LIFE.

BUT STILL, WITH THAT SAID, UM, THERE WAS A EXTENSIVE STUDY THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE, UM, THAT WAS HIRED ON BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO LOOK AT MAYBE AN ALTERNATE TYPE OF OVERSIGHT FOR THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THAT PARTICULAR GROUP WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEY GOT A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT.

THEY HAD STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, AND THEY DECIDED TO TRANSITION TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IS THE OFFICE, AN OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, AND THEN A SEPARATE INDEPENDENT COMMISSION THAT WOULD GIVE THE OFFICE DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES TO AUDITING PRIORITIES.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND.

THIS PARTICULAR FORM OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IS CONSIDERED IN HYBRID AUDITOR MONITOR FORM.

UM, WE LOOK AT ALL POLICE PRACTICES, COMPLAINTS, POLICIES, CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

WE RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS, AND WE ALSO LOOK AT INCIDENTS OF USE OF FORCE WHERE THERE'S GREAT BODILY INJURY.

UM, WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL PERSONNEL FILES AND GUEST INVESTIGATIVE FILES AS WELL.

THERE ARE NUANCES TO WHEN WE GET THOSE FILES.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, LET'S SAY, LIKE AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING, WE WOULDN'T GET THE FILE UNTIL THE CASE IS COMPLETELY DONE, HAS GONE TO THE DA'S OFFICE.

WE WOULD GET IT BEFORE THE DA HAS THEIR FINDINGS, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS POLICY AND PROCEDURE ISSUES.

SO THERE ISN'T A REASON TO WAIT FOR THE FINDING OF THE DA, UM, FOR US TO HAVE A LOOK AT THE FILE AND THEN RENDER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IF THERE SHOULD BE SOME.

AND SOMETIMES A DA FINDING CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO THREE YEARS,

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SO WE DIDN'T WANNA WAIT ON THAT.

UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT COMPLAINTS IN, IN REAL TIME.

SO WHILE THEY'RE HAPPENING, WE CAN ASK FOR UPDATES DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR INVOLVEMENT IS IN THAT CASE.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, OPO IS WHAT WE'LL CALL IT, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, OUR INTERFACE WITH THE COMMISSION.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU OUR WORK AND EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WILL BRING PRESENTATIONS THAT WE, UM, ON RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAKE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

OUR ANNUAL REPORT WILL RUN FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER.

THAT WILL BE OUR REPORTING PERIOD.

UM, IT WILL DEAL WITH STATISTICAL TRENDS, SPECIFICALLY THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, THIS ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE WILL BRING ONE FORWARD FOR YOU GUYS, PROBABLY AROUND NOVEMBER, DECEMBER IS WHEN YOU'LL RECEIVE IT.

IT'S GONNA BE FOCUSED MORE ON THE BUILDING OF THE OFFICE.

UM, I MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT AT OUR FIRST MEETING, BUT THE OFFICE, ALTHOUGH WE TOOK OVER FROM THE CPCC IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, UM, THERE WAS A PROCESS OF MEET AND CONFER.

THE MEET AND CONFERS WERE NOT DONE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER.

AND THEN THE TRANSITION OF ACTUALLY STARTING THE OFFICE'S WORK DIDN'T START UNTIL JANUARY.

AND WE HAD A STAFF OF TWO.

UM, SO THERE WASN'T A LOT OF RECEIVING, UH, COMPLAINTS JUST YET RECEIVING THE CASES.

BUT WE WILL GET THE CASE INFORMATION FROM JANUARY UNTIL NOW.

WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON HOW TO RECEIVE IT AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN IT.

SO THIS IS VERY NEW TO THEM.

UM, THE OFFICE IS BEING A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS VERY IMPACTED WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR COMPLAINTS AND HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN THEM TO GET THOSE DONE.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE TOO MUCH MORE WORKLOAD SO THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR WORK.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN EXPECTATION TO RECEIVE THE CASES WE NEED.

SO WE CAN DO OURS, BUT THE TRAINING INFORMATION JUST MAY NOT BE IN THIS REPORT.

WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT WE GET FIRST BEFORE WE COMMIT TO THAT.

SO THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL REPORT WILL FOCUS A LOT MORE.

UM, ON THE HIRING, THERE WILL BE CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH CRITICAL INCIDENTS, SHOULD THERE BE NECESSARY TO HAVE SOME, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE BEEN RESPONDING TO THOSE AS OF JANUARY 1ST.

AND ALSO, UM, OUR FOCUS ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND JUST MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE OFFICE AND THE COMMISSION.

UM, SO LET'S SEE.

MOVING DOWN THE LINE, UM, GOING INTO AUDIT FINDINGS, THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF WHAT WE WILL BE BRINGING TO THE POLICE COMMISSION.

UM, WHEN WE HAVE AUDITS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.

WE WOULD, PRIOR TO EVEN STARTING THE AUDIT, LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE AUDITS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BECAUSE THE COMMISSION WILL DICTATE OUR PRIORITIES, OUR AUDITING, AUDITING PRIORITIES.

WE DO HAVE TWO AUDITS ALREADY KIND OF READY AND IN THE BOOKS, WE'RE GONNA START BUILDING UP TO BRINGING THOSE TO YOU SOON.

UM, ONE IN PARTICULAR DEALS WITH THE COMPLAINT PROCESS AND HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO, UM, FINISH 'EM, HOW THEY'RE LOOKED AT, HOW THEY RECEIVE THEM.

THERE'S A, A WHOLE BUNCH THAT GOES TO IT.

SO ALSO IN THE OCTOBER MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM INTERNAL AFFAIRS THAT WILL COVER SOME OF THE STEPS OF THEIR PROCESS.

AND ALSO PROBABLY FROM THE POLICE UNION TO TALK ABOUT POLICE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS.

UM, A LOT OF WHAT SOMETIMES CAUSES THE DELAY IS CERTAIN RIGHTS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT HAVE TO BE MET, CERTAIN TIMELINES.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, WHEN THE OFFICE IS GONNA BRING AUDITS FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION THAT YOU GUYS ARE WELL VERSED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHY, AND WHAT SOME OF THE ISSUES MAY BE.

IT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE AUDIT ITSELF AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BRING TO YOU.

SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE PRESENTATIONS.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THE ROLE TO ALSO BRING YOU CRITICAL INCIDENT NOTIFICATIONS.

WE'VE BEEN SENDING THOSE TO YOU VIA, UH, EMAIL.

WE TRY AND GET 'EM TO YOU.

WITHIN 48 HOURS OF THEM ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

WE DO RESPOND OUT TO THE SCENE.

SOME OF THE THINGS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE, THE INFORMATION TO YOU, YOUR NOTIFICATIONS IS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF WORK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING OUT PUBLICLY.

UM, THERE ARE SOME SENSITIVITIES AROUND PUTTING OUT TOO MUCH INFORMATION BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD BE ATTACHED TO PERSONNEL ISSUES, WHICH THEN FALLS INTO THE POBR ISSUES THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT.

SO WE ALMOST HAVE TO MIRROR THE INFORMATION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PUTTING OUT WITH SOME CAVEATS.

UM, AND WE'RE ALSO ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, KIND OF LIKE OFFLINE.

UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THE COMMISSION'S ROLE, WHAT IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE OPO AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE TO GIVE US, UM, MOST SPECIFICALLY, YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE

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INPUT TO SETTING OUR AUDITING PRIORITIES, REVIEWING AND APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE OFFICE, SOLICIT INFORMATION AND INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION, PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE ANNUAL REPORT AND OTHER MATTERS THAT WE, UM, LOOK AT, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND BRING COMMUNITY CONCERNS TO OUR ATTENTION.

SO, BECAUSE MY SLIDES WERE SO SHORT, I MADE A SLIDE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE.

IT WON'T BE THAT LONG, BUT PATRICK'S GONNA GO AHEAD AND SWIPE THROUGH 'EM.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING INPUT AND IMPROVED RECOMMENDATION, UH, IMPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANNA MENTION WHEN IT COMES TO AUDITING PRIORITIES.

SO WE HAVE TWICE STARTED THE, UM, THE HIRING AND POSTING TO LOOK FOR AN AUDITING MANAGER.

SO THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN FOR THE OFFICE.

ONE IS A MANAGER, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF PATRICK'S ROLE, BUT ON THE AUDITING SIDE.

AND THEN AN AUDITING INVESTIGATOR, IF YOU WILL, UM, UM, ON THE AUDITING SIDE AS WELL.

SO WE'VE POSTED THE MANAGER TWICE.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET CANDIDATES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE POSITION.

I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.

THE FIRST TIME WE POSTED IT, EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED, THEY WERE NOT AUDITORS.

THEY WERE ALL INVESTIGATORS WITH NO AUDITING BACKGROUND.

AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE LANGUAGE WE PUT IN THE POSTING.

SO WE WENT BACK, WE TRIED TO REWRITE IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, CIVIL SERVICE AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT CHANGING A LANGUAGE TOO MUCH BECAUSE YOU'RE CREATING A POSITION THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

WELL, ACTUALLY, THERE ISN'T A POSITION LIKE THIS THAT EXISTS.

SO WE HAD TO KIND OF LIKE, TRY AND WORK AROUND IT.

LONG STORY SHORT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT FILLING THESE TWO POSITIONS JUST YET.

I DID NOT WANT THAT TO TIE UP THE WORK OF THE OFFICE OR THE COMMISSION.

SO THE TWO, UM, AUDITS THAT I MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO HIRE CONSULTANTS TO START THE WORK ON THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT AN AUDITOR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME SPECIFICALLY GOES INTO MAKING THESE AUDITS WHAT THEY NEED TO BE.

IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS, IT COULD BE WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AS ALVIN MENTIONED, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH INFORMATION NEEDS TO GO INTO IT.

UM, AND YOU, SO MY PLAN IS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING, WHICH WILL GIVE US TIME TO START THE AUDITS.

THE COMMISSION COULD WORK ON THEIR WORK, UM, WHILE WE'RE DOING THOSE AUDITS.

AND WE COULD STILL HAVE A CONSULTANT COME IN AND DO THE AUDITS WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE UP FOR THAT POSITION.

SO THE OTHER PART, UM, BESIDES THAT IS, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, APPROVE AND RECOMMENDATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNUAL REPORT OR CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

SO FOR THE SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION, IF YOU REMEMBER, UM, IN THE LAST MEETING, STAFF WAS TASKED WITH GOING OUT TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT LOCALES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE ALTERNATE SITES FOR MEETINGS.

SO WE DID COMPLETE THAT TASK.

UM, AND WE HAVE SOME ALTERNATE LOCATIONS, AND WE ALSO WANNA WORK WITH THE COMMISSION ON THE MODES OF COMMUNICATION AS TO HOW WE WOULD ROLL THIS INFORMATION OUT WHEN WE HAVE INFORMATION TO ROLL OUT.

WE HAVEN'T SENT THAT OUT TO YOU YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN A PLACE TO GO OUT AND DO WORK.

WE'RE STILL IN THE BUILDING PHASES OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE RACIAL EQUITY'S GONNA COME, THE POLICE UNION OR WHATEVER.

SO WHEN WE ROLL OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, TYPICALLY IT WILL BE ASSOCIATED ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER, GETTING THEIR INPUT REGARDING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT'S HOW IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

UM, SO WHEN WE GET TO A PLACE OF ACTUALLY HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOOK AT, IS WHEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY.

SO EDUCATE AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO AS THE COMMISSION WORK GROWS AND PEOPLE ARE, THE COMMUNITY BECOMES MORE AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I THINK THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN MORE NATURALLY AND FLUIDLY.

UM, WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN I GET TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PART, BUT ALL OF IT KIND OF FALLS IN LINE WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS GONNA BRING CONCERNS TO US COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL BRING THAT TO THE OFFICE AND SAY, HEY, CONSIDER THIS FOR A POTENTIAL AUDIT OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK INTO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK WITH THAT ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO CURRENTLY STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE MOVE INTO, UM, SOME TYPE OF STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE COMMISSION.

SO WITH THE PART OF US TRYING TO STAFF UP THE AUDITING, UM, POSITIONS IN THE OFFICE, IT WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE A CONSULTANT.

THAT'S ONE, TO DO THE, THE REVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S COMPLAINTS.

BUT IN ORDER FOR

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THE COMMISSION TO FLUSH OUT EACH OF THESE PARTICULAR AREAS AND HOW YOU WANT IT TO LOOK, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A SEPARATE CONSULTANT COME IN AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF STRATEGIC PLANNING.

UM, BECAUSE WE ONLY MEET QUARTERLY, I THINK THAT IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AGENCY OR CONSULTANT THAT CAN TALK TO YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY AND PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND THEN COME AND PRESENT IT.

SO WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SHOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ADDRESSING A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE MAY ALSO ADDRESS.

SO WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT AND AWARE THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THEY'VE JUST ADDRESSED A PARTICULAR POLICY OR AN ISSUE, AND THEN WE TRY AND ADDRESS THAT SAME ISSUE, 90% OF WHAT THEY WORK ON GOES THROUGH A MEET AND CONFER PROCESS.

SOME OF THEIR POLICIES CAN TAKE UP TO TWO YEARS TO CHANGE.

SO WE WANT TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE ADDRESS, HOW WE ADDRESS IT, AND THE TIMING OF IT.

SO WE MAY WANT TO ALMOST FALL IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON BEFORE THEY COMPLETE 'EM, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE WORKS TO GET OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THERE HAS TO BE A LOT OF COORDINATION WITH HOW THE COMMISSION IS WORKING ON CERTAIN THINGS IF WE WANNA BE RELEVANT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE APPROPRIATE MOVEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF HOPING TO FLUSH OUT THROUGH A CONSULTANT BECAUSE MY STAFF CAN WORK ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, WE WON'T HAVE THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE.

WE NEED SOMEBODY TO DRAW IN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH OUR OFFICE, UH, WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TO REALLY SET OUT THINGS, KEEPING IN MIND THAT THINGS MAY COME UP THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO PIVOT AND ADDRESS AS THEY COME UP.

BUT AT LEAST IF WE CAN HAVE A THREE TO FIVE YEAR PLAN, I THINK THAT IT WILL HELP US STAY FOCUSED ON WHERE WE NEED TO DRAW IN OUR AUDITS AND HOW WE WANNA WORK THEM.

AND THAT IS IT.

AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

COMMISSIONERS, UH, I'LL START WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY.

UM, I, I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF THAT AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON, ON HOW THEY FEEL AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IS WHAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN IS, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DIRECTION THIS EVENING FROM THE COMMISSION TO UM, BRING, BRING A CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO HELP US WITH A THREE OR A FIVE YEAR? AND AND I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE COMMISSION TOO ON, IS IT A THREE YEAR PLAN, A FIVE YEAR PLAN, A SEVEN YEAR PLAN? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS, BUT, UM, AND THEN WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I MEAN, HOW, HOW BROAD IS THIS STRATEGIC PLAN GOING TO BE? IS, IS IT COORDINATE WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND US AS THE COMMISSION AND YOUR OFFICE? I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PLAYERS INVOLVED IN PUTTING TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF PLAN LIKE THAT.

IT WOULD BE OUR PLAN.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM HEARING YOU THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES OR DEPARTMENTS THEY'D NEED TO TALK TO.

YES, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, BUT REALLY WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS EVENING IS HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU ALL AS A GROUP WITH SAYING WE NEED TO REALLY BE INTENTIONAL AND DO A STRATEGIC PLAN FIRST? IT'S VERY EASY TO JUST DECIDE, HEY, WE WANNA LOOK AT USE OF FORCE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT THAT MIGHT NOT, TIMELY WISE, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST ONE BECAUSE THE USE OF FORCE POLICY JUST GOT CHANGED.

SO WE POSSIBLY COULD TACKLE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF, UM, THEIR TRAINING ON IT, HOW THEY TRAIN.

SO THERE MIGHT BE CAVEATS WHERE WE COULD LOOK AT CERTAIN PARTS OF IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT JUST GOT CHANGED AND IMPLEMENTED.

SO I REALLY WANT TO HEAR BACK ABOUT HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU, 'CAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY, ALL OF YOU, YOU COMMITTED TO THIS, YOU WANNA HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND DO SOME GOOD WORK, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GONNA BE EFFECTIVE IN HOW WE DO IT.

AND, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK AT, I WOULD HOPE THE STRATEGIC PLAN WOULD BE PRETTY BROAD IN THAT SENSE AND NOT BE LIKE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.

BECAUSE I THINK, AS YOU MENTIONED, YES, THINGS ARE GONNA COME UP.

THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE THEIR OWN IDEAS AND, AND MAYBE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING TO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS, THOSE GET FLUSHED OUT AND PUT IN THERE AND WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT AS A GROUP ONCE, ONCE THAT'S PUT TOGETHER.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA BE, LIKE THE OTHER AUDITOR IN HIS PRESENTATION MENTIONED, THEY HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME ABILITY TO PIVOT AS NEEDED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE DOWN HERE ASKING OUR COMMISSION AND YOUR OFFICE TO BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY, I GUESS AGREED IS THE BEST WAY TO IT.

SO WITH THAT OTHER COM ROSCO, , YEAH, I'M TOTALLY EXCITED FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO, UM, I'M COMING FROM THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND IT WAS A NEW COMMISSION WHEN I WAS ON BOARD AND WE WERE TASKED WITH A STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO INITIALLY WE WERE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AS WE WERE BUILDING THAT.

AND IT WASN'T UNTIL A COUPLE YEARS LATER THAT WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING FOR A CONSULTANT.

SO, UH, THAT EXPONENTIALLY INCREASED OUR PRODUCTIVITY.

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AND I THINK THAT, UM, LOOKING AT THAT DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH FIVE PRETTY BROAD, UH, GOALS THAT THE COMMISSION WANTED TO TACKLE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND I THINK IT COULD BE A, A GOOD MODEL FOR IT.

UM, SO I'M ABSOLUTELY ON BOARD.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR.

YES.

YES.

I AGREE THAT WE NEED A, A LONGER RANGE.

IT'S A MID-RANGE PLAN.

THREE TO FIVE YEARS, I THINK PROBABLY THREE YEARS.

UM, HAVING DONE EVALUATIONS OF PROGRAMS TO DO A DECENT EVALUATION ACTUALLY, WHICH IS MUCH LIKE YOUR AUDIT TAKES AT LEAST A YEAR, IF NOT LONGER DEPENDING ON THE TOPIC.

SO WE COULD START WITH THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE ONGOING, UM, AND THEN SORT OF LIMIT THAT AND HAVE ROOM FOR EMERGENCY, UM, AND WHAT COMES FORWARD.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A CONSULTANT, THOUGH I HAVE TO SAY MY EXPERIENCE WITH STRATEGIC PLAN CONSULTANTS SOMETIMES GETS A LITTLE TOO TOUCHY FEELY FOR MY, FOR MY, MY DATA-DRIVEN VIEW OF LIFE.

UM, BUT UM, TALKING TO ABOUT WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY DOING A SCAN OF THE COMMUNITY ISSUES SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A REALLY GOOD PLAN TO GO.

THANK YOU.

SCENE, SCENE.

COMMISSIONER SOTO? NO, IF I, I I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD.

IF I, IF I'M TALKING, IT'S JUST BECAUSE I WANT ANYONE WANT TO TALK.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SAID EVERYTHING I WOULD SAY.

SO , I AGREE , AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, W WE WOULD BE AUTHORIZING YOU TO SEEK OUT A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST THE COMMISSION WITH COMING UP WITH A STRATEGIC PLAN.

WHILE THAT'S GOING ON, YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU WOULD BE HIRING A SEPARATE AUDITOR TO LOOK AT THE COMPLAINTS SYSTEM FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF HOW LONG IT TAKES TO ONCE A COMPLAINT'S OPEN TO CLOSE THAT COMPLAINT, HOW LONG, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS THEY GET AND, AND HOW TO MAYBE IMPROVE THAT SYSTEM.

SO IT'S A SHORTER TIME PERIOD FROM THE OPENING TO CLOSING.

YES, THERE'S A, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF LAYERS TO IT.

IT'S, UM, WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY REVIEWING.

'CAUSE FROM MY SHORT ASSESSMENT OF THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY LOOK CURRENTLY LOOKS AT EVERYTHING, EVEN SOME THINGS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED DEMONSTRATIVELY FALSE.

UM, IT GOES INTO THE PROCESS AND IT KIND OF BACKLOGS THE SYSTEM.

SO, UM, THEIR CLOSURE TIME I THINK IS RIGHT ABOUT 11 MONTHS.

AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH PLBR, YOU GET EXACTLY 12 MONTHS TO CLOSE A CASE AND IMPLEMENT DISCIPLINE.

SO IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE INVESTIGATORS TO KIND OF GET THESE CASES DONE.

THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY WITH THE OFFICERS THAT ARE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE CASES LINGERING, UM, FOR 11 MONTHS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THINK COULD BENEFIT NOT ONLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE OFFICERS REGARDING MORALE AND GETTING THESE CASES MOVING FASTER.

UM, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE QUITE OFTEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL MAKE A COMPLAINT AND THEN THEY GET CONTACTED SIX, SEVEN MONTHS LATER AND THEY'RE LIKE, I THOUGHT YOU ALREADY FINISHED THAT.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE WE'RE CALLING NOW.

SO, UM, IT REALLY HELPS BOTH SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS AND HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET IT MOVING A LITTLE BIT FASTER.

AND THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON IT AS WELL, BUT WE JUST WANNA ADD TO THE WORK THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.

THANK YOU.

NOW I'M GONNA ASK ANITA, OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY WHO'S HERE TO HELP ME SO I DON'T MESS THIS UP.

THIS IS BE EMBARRASSING, RIGHT? SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR TO RETAIN A, DO WE NEED A MOTION ON BOTH CONSULTANTS OR JUST THE ONE I THINK YOUR OFFICE HAS THE AUTHORITY FOR? IT'S JUST THE ONE THAT ASSOCIATES WITH THE COMMISSION.

SO I'M REALLY JUST ASKING YOUR PERMISSION TO SAY THIS IS THE COURSE WE'RE GONNA GO IN.

SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST THE COMMISSION WITH A STRATEGIC PLAN.

ANITA, DO YOU, OR I'M SORRY, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY JUST WRITING DOWN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, AMENDED MOTION SO I CAN READ THAT BACK.

UM, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION CHARTER LANGUAGE AND TO, UM, APPROVE A CONSULTANT TO BE HIRED BY THE DIRECT BY THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING.

FOR A STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN, CORRECT? YES.

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IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? MAY I GET A MOTION ON THAT? AND A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SOTO AND A SECOND BY TUSHNET.

SO WE CAN JUST APPROVE THE FRIENDLY, WE'LL TAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY, AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

YES.

AND THEN JUST I NEED CONFIRMATION FROM COMMISSIONER SOTO AND VICE CHAIR.

CHAIR SCH NET.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT MEMBERS, COULD WE TAKE A VOTE? MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

AT THIS POINT

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Police Oversight Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]

I SEE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

I BELIEVE WE ARE ADJOURNED.

OH, HEY, SORRY.

I THINK THERE'S ONE

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

SPOT.

WE DO HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS, CHAIR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

SORRY, THAT'S ON THE LAST PAGE.

I JUST WENT STRAIGHT TO ADJOURNMENT.

SURE.

DO YOU GUYS GO FIRST? IS IS THERE, I DON'T HAVE THE LAST PAGE IN FRONT OF ME.

WHO'S FIRST? KYLE, I NEED TO ASK ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR ANY ANYTHING FOR THE, FOR THE BODY? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

I MIGHT HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO I'M A FACILITATOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP PROGRAM AND I WAS RECENTLY ASKED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE ON THE COMMISSION.

SO I GOT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND HOW EXCITING IT IS AND HOPEFULLY RECRUIT SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS.

AWESOME.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN THE WORKS, BUT I'M HOLDING THAT UNTIL THEY CAN BE CONFIRMED.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, DIRECTOR.

OKAY.

LAST COMMENT.

OUR WEBPAGE IS LIVE.

UM, WE WILL SEND YOU THE LINK TO IT.

IT LOOKS REALLY NICE.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT WENT LIVE ON MONDAY, MONDAY LAST WEEK.

UM, WE MEANT TO SEND IT IN YOUR EMAIL PACKET, BUT THAT'S MY FAULT.

SO, UH, WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO YOU SEPARATELY.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW.

YES.

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

ONE, I HAVE ONE LAST THING.

OUR NEXT MEETING WHEN, UM, DO WE HAVE A DATE? OKAY, SO IT'S TYPICALLY THE SECOND WEDNESDAY IN OCTOBER, BUT I HAD PLANNED ON ASKING PATRICK TO GIVE YOU SOME OPTIONS.

, BUT I FORGOT.

SO WE HAVE, DID WE WE LOCKED IT IN ALREADY, RIGHT? UH, SO RIGHT NOW PAST OCTOBER 9TH.

OCTOBER 9TH.

AND, AND I COULD ASK, MAYBE PATRICK COULD REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I, I, WE ALL HAVE OUR CALENDARS, BUT I'M NOT, I IF WE'RE, IF WE HAVE A DATE OR IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT DATE, IT WAS OCTOBER 9TH AT SIX.

COMMISSIONER BROWN'S NOT HERE.

YES.

I THINK THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS THE SECOND WEDNESDAYS FOR COMMISSIONER BROWN MIGHT'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT TRICKY.

SO THIRD, WE DO, WE HAVE TO LOCK THAT IN RIGHT NOW, KYLE? NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO LOCK IT IN NOW WE CAN PULL THE COMMISSIONERS AT A DIFFERENT TIME AND OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU SOMETHING, UH, THIS WEEK.

IS THERE, RIGHT.

WE HAVEN'T SET A BYLAWS WHERE WE'VE SET AN OFFICIAL DATE YET.

NO.

SO, SO WE STILL HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY HERE AS WE'RE FORMING UP AND, AND, AND GETTING OUR DATES AND TIMES TOGETHER.

BUT ONCE, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A HARD AND FAST DATE, SO WE CAN DO THAT.

I THINK ANITA.

YEP.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO THAT UNTIL WE SETTLE ON DATES AND THEN WE COULD, IF WE DO ADOPT BYLAWS AND PUT IT IN THERE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SPECIAL MEETING NOTICES.

BUT AT THIS TIME I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT IT WAS A CIVIC CHAMBER ISSUE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

UM, BUT THERE WERE ALREADY COMMISSIONS TAKEN THE CHAMBERS.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CHECK THE CALENDAR TOMORROW AND WE'LL SEND YOU ALL EMAILS INDIVIDUALLY AND LET YOU KNOW SOME OF THE OPTIONS.

MAYBE EVEN DO LIKE A DOODLE POLL.

UM, AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN PICK FIRST, SECOND, THIRD AND TRY AND GET IT IN IF THAT WORKS WITH EVERYONE.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW IS WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.