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MOVING FORWARD TO THE REGULAR AGENDA RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS EDITS TO THE GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL.
SUGGESTED ACTION APPROVE RECOMMENDATION.
I SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
NO PUBLIC IS HERE ATTENDING, SO WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A FEW REVIEWS NOW SINCE OUR, I THINK THIS IS OUR FOURTH MEETING ON THIS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE COMMITTEE EXISTENCE.
AND LORI HAS IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO WE CAN REVIEW IT.
DID YOU JUST WANNA LIKE, GO THROUGH IT? I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS LEFT.
I DID HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION THAT'S NOT IN THERE RIGHT NOW, SO WE COULD JUST SORT OF LIKE SCROLL THROUGH AND SEE WHAT'S THERE.
THERE'S NOT A TON TO DISCUSS TODAY, BUT UM, I'M SURE WE'LL USE ALL MY TIME.
THIS WAS JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE THAT THERE WAS, IT NEVER EXISTED, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING LISTED HERE IN THE, IN THE, UM, CONTENTS THAT WASN'T THERE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD DISCUSSED REMOVE THE TREE DEDICATION POLICY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.
SO I FITTED THOSE I CAN SEE RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN I'LL BE, THIS IS, THIS IS MY NEXT, UH, BIG THING THAT I'M WORKING ON WITH FRIEND.
UM, QUESTION ABOUT THE HOLIDAYS.
UH, LAST JULY 4TH UHHUH ON A THURSDAY.
WHY IS JULY 5TH? IS JULY 5TH TECHNICALLY A HOLIDAY OR IS IT JUST TIER PRICE? IT IS TECHNICALLY NOT A HOLIDAY, BUT 'CAUSE THE HOLIDAY FELL ON A THURSDAY, 90% OF THE COUNTRY TAKES OFF FRIDAY AS WELL.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE THE THURSDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING OR THE FRIDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
BUT THAT'S WHAT MOST COUNTIES DO.
AND NEXT YEAR LA COUNTY IS, UM, MAKING JUNETEENTH, UH, HOLIDAYS.
AND WILL THAT, OKAY, SO WE'RE ALREADY THERE ON JUNE 10TH.
AND DID THEY MAKE ELECTION NOW? YES.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS, YEAH, THERE WAS JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THERE WAS THAT PARAGRAPH THAT WAS REMOVED.
WHAT WAS THAT THE SAME WHATCHA LOOKING AT? OH YEAH.
UM, UPDATED THAT TWO FOURSOME.
I THINK I HAD STILL SAID IT WOULD BE A FIVESOME.
UM, THIS WAS SOME
GARY, TELL ME I HAVE, IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT OR IF ANY OTHER I NEED TO CHANGE, THIS IS ABOUT TAGGING THE CARTS.
UM, I REFERENCE OH, FOR THE HANDICAP CARTS? YEAH, THE HANDICAP, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FLAGS ANYMORE.
IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FLAGS AND SO I JUST LITERALLY, I THINK I WROTE TAG WHERE IT SAID FLAG.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO PRINT MORE 'CAUSE THEY, THEY GET LOST AS WELL, BUT IT'S JUST A, A TAG THAT GOES IN THE GOLF CART.
'CAUSE THE FLAGS ARE 15 BUCKS A PIECE OR WE CAN JUST GET THROUGH THE PAPER LAMINATED WE CALL DAY.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CAR TAG NOW INSTEAD OF CART.
IS THAT MORE VISIBLE BEING UP TOP CLAMPED TO THE TOP THAN IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE THE CART NUMBERS, IT'S JUST WITH IT BEING DOUBLE SIDED BLUE.
UM, IT'S JUST ANYBODY COULD DO THAT SO THEN ANYBODY CAN HAVE ONE.
ON THAT NEXT ONE ABOUT THE DRINKING, THE DRINKING WATER.
UM, THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN AT, UH, HARWELL DOES NOT WORK.
I'LL BY THE, I'LL BY THE, I PASS, I PASS THE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DRINKING FOUNTAIN IN THE BRICK STRUCTURE.
I PASS THE SECOND PUTTING GREEN.
I HAD KIDS GO OVER THERE, UH, YESTERDAY TO FILL THEIR WATER BOTTLES AND CAME BACK EMPTY.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A WATER BOTTLE FOR THEM, BUT JUST SO GARY'S AWARE OF IT.
THE ONE OUT BY, OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE.
I DON'T KNOW THE ONE OUT BY THE BATHROOM SIDE.
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LAST TIME IT WORKED WHEN I WAS OUT THERE.PUT A NEW ONE IN OUT THE, AND WE, SO BEING HIGHLIGHTED, DO WE STILL HAVE MARSHALLS DRIVING AROUND WITH THE JUGS OF WATER OR WAS THAT, THAT WAS GONE AT COVID, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
I DON'T THINK IT EVER CAME BACK.
UM, THE, THIS WAS, UH, HAD SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT BALL WASHERS THAT WE REMOVED.
UM, I DID READ THROUGH THE A DA GARY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEEDED TO DO ANY LIKE, DOUBLE CHECKING OF THAT.
'CAUSE THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, PORTABLE WALL WASHERS BEING AVAILABLE.
BUT THEN I THINK WE NEVER, WELL WE TALKED ABOUT REMOVING THE PORTABLE BALL WASHERS.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN HERE THAT, THAT'S FINE.
IT'S NOT SHOWING, UH, I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT OH RIGHT, THE NOON.
UM, ADDING, UM, ADDING THE AFTER NOON.
I THINK WE CAN JUST AS PART OF GETTING THIS APPROVED OH, SENIORS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, I WAS GONNA POINT OUT LIKE MAYBE SOME MAJOR UPDATES WHEN I SUBMIT IT, UM, FOR APPROVAL.
SO I WAS JUST LEAVING THAT NOTE FOR MYSELF REALLY.
UM, TELL BARBARA WILL BE HERE.
THERE WAS SOME, WHY IS THIS NOT? WELL, THERE WE GO.
UM, YEAH, THERE WAS SOME TEXT ABOUT GIRLS TEAMS DON'T NEED AS MANY TIMES AS THE BOYS TEAMS OR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE IT SAID SHOULD THE WOMEN ON 18, UH, G THANK YOU.
SHOULD THE WOMEN, UM, BEGIN TO INCREASE THEIR FIELD OR PLAY THE FEE WOULD GO UP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MEN'S FEET? MM-HMM.
SO YOU JUST MADE IT GENERIC S AND G? YEAH.
OH, WE TOOK THAT WHOLE ONE OUT.
TOOK G IT LOOKS LIKE G'S GONE.
IT'S NOT UNDERNEATH IT IS IT? RIGHT.
THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S PER TEAM.
BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER PARAGRAPH THERE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, WAIT, WHAT DID, WAIT, WELL, CONTINUED ON TO, IT WAS A LONG PARAGRAPH.
YEAH, THAT WAS IN THE MAIN ISSUE.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE, WHERE WAS IT? OKAY.
NO, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN INCORRECT, BUT THIS, THIS IS WHAT I, I THINK THIS WAS UPDATED HERE.
GARY, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS ONE.
I, I JUST HAVE TO GO, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ONE AGAIN BECAUSE THAT, AND I HAVE THAT AGREEMENT TOO.
I CAN GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS FOR THE, UM, THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
SARAH, THIS, SORRY, THIS IS THE LBU.
OH, THIS IS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
SO HOW DO YOU GET TO, HOW DO YOU GET TO 9 3, 6 13 PER SEASON? IT'S JUST NOT ADDING UP IN MY HEAD.
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NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.I NEED TO FIX THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER YOU SENT ME THE INVOICE SO I CAN MAYBE LOOK AT THAT TOO.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT.
LEMME JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT NUMBER.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S 1500 A TEAM.
SO, SO THAT 3000 WOULD BE, THAT 3000 WOULD BE INACCURATE OR IS THAT 3000 FOR LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE? NO, UM, TECHNICALLY THE SURCHARGE IS SAID AT 3000 PER TEAM SHOULD READ 3000 PER 1500 PER SCHOOL.
BECAUSE LAKEWOOD JORDAN? OR IS IT 1500 FOR BOYS GIRLS? SO 3000 PER TEAM, RIGHT? YEAH.
OR SHOULD READ FOR SCHOOL THEN? PER SCHOOL.
SO SEVEN 50 FOR BOYS, SEVEN 50 FOR GIRLS.
IT'S THE THING THAT'S THROWING IT OFF IS THIS PER SEASON? IT SHOULD JUST SAY IT'S THREE POUND.
IT'S 1500 PER SCHOOL PER YEAR.
AND THEN IT COMES OUT TO 9,000 FOR THE LEAGUE.
FOR THE, FOR THE WHOLE LEAGUE.
AND IS THIS STILL ACCURATE WITH, UM, ADDING A FIFTH TIME? WELL, I CAN LOOK, I'LL LOOK AT THAT.
DO WE NEED FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR TIMES THAT USED TO GET FOUR.
I THINK THIS IS, THERE WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE THAT BOYS TEXT WAS.
OH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DONNA'S COMING UP.
THAT'S UNDER THE CITY COLLEGE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IF THAT NEEDS TO GET CHANGED TOO.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS.
SO THE ONE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, IS THIS ONE G? YEAH, THAT IS THIS.
OH, THAT'S FOR, FOR CITY COLLEGE.
AND I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO KEEP SOMETHING IN THERE, TO BE HONEST, I, I MEAN WE USUALLY GIVE 'EM, YOU KNOW, A GOOD DEAL OF WALKING MOST, SOMETIMES WE'LL JUST GIVE 'EM LIKE THE RESIDENT RATE.
IF YOU WANT TO SET UP THREE OR FOUR TEE TIMES.
REALLY? UM, THEY JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T PLAY A LOT.
SHOULD WE, UH, SHOULD YOU REFERENCE, LIKE WE COULD DO THE SAME THING AS THE OTHER ONE.
IF THEY REALLY WANT TO COME OUT AND BOOK TE TOWNS, WE COULD SAVE 1500 FOR, FOR THE MEN, 1500 FOR THE WOMEN.
BUT AGAIN, IF THEY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THREE GRAND TO WRITE A CHECK RIGHT.
AND LIKE SCHEDULE TEETH, JUST LET US KNOW WHEN YOU WANT PLAY.
BUT WE PUT IT THE SAME AS YEAH.
UNIFIED JUST TOOK 1500 FOR MEN'S AND 1500 FOR WOMEN'S TEAMS. OKAY.
'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE TWO MM-HMM.
AND WE COULD KEEP LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT IF EITHER TEAM MM-HMM.
CLICK INCREASE WOULD INCREASE.
I, I JUST DON'T LIKE THESE CALLS.
ARE THEY BACK TO FIELDING TEAMS
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THAT YOU KNOW OF? I DON'T KNOW.THEY HAVE CALL TEAMS BUT THEY DON'T CALL US AND SAY, HEY, LIKE I NEED TO SET UP TWO TEE TIMES EVERY TUESDAY DAY.
YOU KNOW? SO THIS IS JUST CITY COLLEGE? NOT LONG BEACH STATE.
AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED LONG BEACH STATE'S, VIRGINIA OR OLD RANCH.
EXCEPT FOR PRACTICE FACILITIES.
I, I MEAN I WOULD RATHER JUST GET RID OF THE FEE WHERE IT SAYS THE FEE OF 4,500 OR 1500 MM-HMM.
I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS LIKE, OKAY, THE LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE, YOU GUYS RESIDENT RATE.
IF I HAD TO PUT ON RESIDENT RATE OR RESIDENT RATES APPLY TO OR APPLY FOR, APPLY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE TEAMS. 15 PEOPLE ON THE GOLF TEAM.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THERE.
IF YOU SAID TWO MAX, I MEAN YOU'RE NOT, OR FOR BACK TO BACK THAT'S EIGHT GIFTS.
AND THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN YEARS.
BUT IF THEY CAME OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I GOT EIGHT PEOPLE 1 22 O'CLOCK.
MOST OF THE TIME THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY, SO, OKAY.
THEY JUST KIND OF WHATEVER RATE THEY WANT, BUT AGAIN, THEY DON'T COME OUT VERY OFTEN.
UH, I HAD A QUESTION HERE ON THE, SO WE HAVE THE TIME CHANGES THEN HERE ON NINE.
UH, DOES THAT LOOK BECAUSE ON THE FEES IT SAYS YOU LIST THE FEES AS IS.
THERE'S NON-RESIDENT TWILIGHT THREE 30 AND THEN THERE'S RESIDENT TWILIGHT THREE O'CLOCK.
WELL, IT'S JUST FOR NINE THURSDAY A MAXIMUM NINE FIRST END OF, I MEAN THAT WOULD ALMOST HAVE FOUR TIME CHANGES WITH IT AS WELL.
BUT REMEMBER THAT, BUT WE CAN LEAVE IT THAT.
THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT FACEBOOK WELL STARTS AT THREE HERE.
SO, BUT, SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS THEN DO WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THAT SAYS THAT IT'S AT FOUR, BUT THEN IN THE FEES IT'S LISTED AS THREE AND THREE 30.
SHOULD WE, ALTHOUGH TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY SCHEDULE, WE DON'T EVEN INCLUDE THE HOURS.
THIS IS WHY I KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO UPDATE THE MEETING.
BUT, UM, IN THE CDP SCHEDULE, IT'S JUST, WE CALL IT, I THINK IT'S CALLED TWILIGHT OR SUPER TWILIGHT OR SOMETHING.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE TIME.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE TIMELINE.
MAYBE WE LEAVE IT AND THEN IT'S ACCURATE.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR REC PARK, NOT THAT'S JUST NINE.
BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE HAD IT FOR EVERYTHING.
SO YOU WENT ON DOWN FOR THE REGULATION.
SO DOES THAT, WHERE DOES HEART WILL FIT IN JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? OUR WELL DOESN'T HAVE TWILIGHT.
YEAH, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOTHING BUT IT'S, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ALL THE RESIDENTS GET TWILIGHT
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AN HOUR EARLIER, BUT THEY ALWAYS COMPLAIN THEY DON'T GET SUPER TWILIGHT AN HOUR.WHICH THAT'S KIND OF A FUN WORD.
UH, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED SOMETHING HERE.
I HAVE SOME NOTES THAT I COULDN'T QUITE, I THINK THIS NEEDS SOME, DOES THIS NEED UPDATING? DOES THIS NEED TO GO INSIDE? WHAT'S UP ABOVE? I COULD MAKE SENSE OF IT.
SOMETHING I NEED TO GET FROM LISA OR, SO DOES THAT MEAN, IS THAT THE JUNIOR RATE, IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH THEIR SON GRANDSON AT RED PARK 18 AT ONE O'CLOCK, THEY'RE PAYING FULL RESIDENT RATE OR FULL WHATEVER.
IT USED TO BE NOON YEARS AGO, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
JUNIOR RIGHT UP HERE WITH OUR 50 CENTS.
FUND THE STARTER AND THEY GIVE YOU A BUCKET LOSS TO GO AWAY.
WELL NOW YOU'RE GETTING A $20 BILL.
SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS WHEN WE GET TO LIKE THE NITTY GRITTY, LIKE
YOU WANNA GO TO HARTWELL ON A FRIDAY? ON THURSDAYS NOW.
BECAUSE OUR PROGRAM'S NOT ON THURSDAYS AND ONE FRIDAY A MONTH.
IS DOES THE FRIDAY STAY CONSISTENT? NO, BECAUSE OF HOLIDAYS AND OKAY.
IT IT, I MEAN IT TRIES TO BE, BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S A HOLIDAY IN THERE.
WELL I KNOW THAT'S SLOPPY, BUT I'M GONNA, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS THAT BASICALLY, SO IT'S JUST SAYING MONDAY AT REC PARK AT THREE O'CLOCK AT JUNIOR FROM THE LONG BEACH JUNIOR GOLF ASSOCIATION, YOU MAKE A TEE TIME FROM THREE TO FOUR.
BUT I THINK, LIKE LARRY SAID, I THOUGHT THAT USED TO BE NOON.
I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF A, IT WAS NEVER UPDATED.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE EXISTENCE OF A MANUAL.
YOU KNOW? YEAH, THAT'S VERY TRUE.
IT JUST SEEMS WEIRD THAT IT'S ONLY, THEY ONLY GET AN HOUR TO SNEAK IN THERE IF THEY WANT IT TO GO IN THERE ONE HOUR EACH WEEK THERE.
YEAH, THE HIGH SCHOOLS LATER FROM NOW ON.
I THINK THE HIGH SCHOOL'S OUT OF ALMOST FOUR, AREN'T THEY? THREE 30.
'CAUSE I LIVE ON PALO VERDE AND THEY WON.
I MEAN THAT'S MORE, THAT'S MORE FOR, I MEAN THAT'S MORE FOR LISA AND THE PROGRAM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER GOTTEN A CALL ABOUT YEAH.
JUST ASK HER IF THAT'S EVEN YEAH.
SOMEBODY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND YOU KNOW, THE MINUTE IT'S GONE, IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF YOU TAKE IT OFF, SOMEBODY WILL NOTICE IT.
BUT TUESDAY AT THREE O'CLOCK, LIKE I SAID, FOUR JUNIORS MAKE A TEA TIME.
THEIR MEMBERSHIP IS IN FLORIDA, SO WE'D ACTUALLY KNOW THEY'RE A MEMBER.
SO WE NEED TO PROBABLY DO SOME TRAINING ON THIS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE, THE TWO OR THE 1 1 2 7 1 OR 1 2, 7 2.
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I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW.I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE DIDN'T ANSWER.
THERE WERE LIKE FOUR LINES AT ONE POINT.
I THINK WE CANCELED WHEN I FIRST CAME IN.
WELL I'LL HAVE HER, I'LL EMAIL YOU WITH IT.
WELL I THINK I'LL EMAIL HER THIS WHOLE SECTION AND HAVE, YEAH, THAT IS WORKS.
ALL, I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANYTHING, SORRY FOR THIS.
IT MAY BE CONTRACTUAL, NOT MANUAL WISE, BUT IN YOUR CONTRACT, IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CARTS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT EACH GOLF COURSE? IS IT 80 OR 85? IT USED TO BE IN THERE.
I THINK IT USED TO SAY LIKE 60.
BUT WE ALL HAD 90 EXCEPT FOR HARWELL AND ZACH, I THINK WE ARE UPDATING THAT.
I THINK THAT WAS IN, THAT WAS THE EXHIBIT AT THE END.
I MEAN YOU NEED SPACE FOR ALL THOSE TOO.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW YEAH, WE UPDATED LIKE THE, 'CAUSE IT EVEN SAYS IN THERE LIKE HOW LONG WE'LL KEEP 'EM OR SOMETHING.
LIKE WE, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ONE.
UM, GARY, DO YOU KNOW THE LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL EMAIL OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? I DO.
WHAT IS IT? THIS, THAT'S LV GOLF FESTIVAL@AMERICANGOLF.COM.
LIKE IT ALWAYS GIVES ME PROBLEMS. OKAY.
I'LL BE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
IT'S THE, THE MOUSE IS TERRIBLE TOO.
I KNOW IF IT'S 'CAUSE I'M SO FAR AWAY FROM I'LL BE GOLF FESTIVAL.
I HAD IT IN MY NOTES THAT WE DID.
UM, THIS ONE I WANTED TO CHECK ON YOU GUYS WITH, 'CAUSE WE UPDATED IT A COUPLE TIMES.
I WANNA SAY IT WAS 16 BEFORE LAST TIME AND NOW WE UPDATED TO 20.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I HAVE ON HERE THAT J WE WERE UNDER, IT WAS UNDER PROGRESS.
I THINK THIS WAS, 'CAUSE GARY, I THINK THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR LIKE GOOGLE SHEETS SITE OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT YOU GUYS WERE WORKING ON PRIOR TO THE ALL SCHEDULED TREATMENTS WILL BE LISTED ON A WEBPAGE LINK.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GET SPECIFIC IN YOU.
I THINK THAT WAS JUST MORE ON NO, WHEN YOU GO TO, UM, WHEN YOU GO TO LBC GOLF.COM.
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A LINK AND IT'S GOT ALL THE TOURNAMENTS ON IT.UM, CAN I, OKAY, THEN I WILL UPDATE THAT ON OUR SITE TOO.
BUT GOLF.COM LBC GOLF.COM C IT'S NOT ON THIS WEBSITE, SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO TWO TIMES.
SO YOU GO TO T TIMES T TIMES WEST SKY LINKS.
SO IT'S, I'M ONLY GETTING 14 IN HERE.
SO YOU GO INTO SKYLINES, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE MAKING A TEE TIME.
AND HERE'S YOUR TURN ON MY CALENDAR.
AND YOU JUST GO HOVER AROUND EACH DAY AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S ON EACH DAY.
SO I HAVEN'T GOT IN THERE FOR THE YEAR THEN MAYBE SINCE.
SO THERE'S A SEPARATE ONE FOR EACH COURSE? NO, NO.
ALL WE ALL HAVE THE SAME LINK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORDING IN THERE THAT OKAY.
THEN I CAN PUT A LINK ON THERE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I NEEDED TO NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO HAVING IT ON THERE.
BUT I WE CAN INCLUDE THAT LINK.
WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
HOW ABOUT THIS? I'M LIKE,
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TRIED TO DELETE THAT.
SO NO, THE NEXT, YEAH, THIS ONE.
SO GARY, IT'S KIND OF SPECIFIC TOO.
SO THE WOMEN'S CLUB HAVE THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH IN THE BANQUET ROOM, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
SO HERE'S MY QUESTION AND MAYBE I'M GONNA ASK IT OUT AND IF I'M OFF BASE, YOU CAN TELL ME, I'LL ASK YOU PRIVATELY LATER.
WE WERE TOLD, OR I WAS TOLD BY PHYLLIS, I GUESS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO THE WOMAN IS THAT'S IN CHARGE OF BANK ROOM.
TOLD HER IF I CAN SELL THIS ROOM, MY OBLIGATION IS TO SELL IT, EVEN IF YOU'RE SCHEDULED FOR IT.
NOW, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
IT'S HAPPENED THREE TIMES THIS YEAR.
AND WE GOT THERE YESTERDAY FOR A MEETING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE FIRST OF LAST MONTH.
AND THE ROOM WAS SET UP AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE WOMAN WAS THAT, UM, TOLD US WE COULDN'T BE IN THERE AND SHE ASKED IF WE COULD HOLD THE MEETING IN THE, IN THE COCKTAIL IN THE BAR.
AND I SAID WE COULD, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO LEAVE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR MEETING.
AND SO THEN SHE WENT TO TOM AND TOM SAYS, NO, WE LOCKED HIM OUT LAST MO LAST WEEK.
WE CAN'T LOCK HIM OUT TWO IN A WEEK.
SO, UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, AND THAT ONE FELL ON THAT ONE ONLY FELL THAT WAY BECAUSE WE HAD TO SET UP A WEDDING.
IT WAS ON THE FIFTH, WE HAD TO SET IT UP ON THE THIRD.
SO SHE, I MEAN SHE PUT US IN THERE WITH TABLES ON THE SIDE AND IT WORKED OUT FINE, BUT IT WAS JUST, IT WAS A WEIRD, IT ENDED BEING KIND OF A REALLY WEIRD SITUATION.
UM, TOM TOOK CARE OF IT REALLY QUICKLY, BUT IT WAS JUST REALLY WE'RE UP IN OUR YEAH.
THAT WAS YOUR FULL MEETING, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN SO IT WAS SUPPOSED IN THE FIRST, SO IT PUT IT OFF TO THIS ONE.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, I UNDERSTAND IF, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO SET UP, BUT SHE CAN'T CALL OR SEND OUT EMAILS THE NIGHT BEFORE SAYING, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR MEETING TOMORROW.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED AT LEAST A FEW DAYS.
I'LL TALK, I'LL TALK TO BROOKE.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF SHE KNOWS THAT THIS IS WHAT, 'CAUSE I SAID THAT TO THE WOMAN YESTERDAY.
I SAID, WELL BY CON BY, YOU KNOW, CITY, DAH, DAH, DAH.
AND SHE WASN'T VERY HAPPY WITH ME.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE IS.
I WAS GONNA INTRODUCE MYSELF, BUT SHE KIND OF HUFFED OUT.
AND I, I WAS EITHER SYDNEY, IT WAS A BLONDE WOMAN AND SHE WENT IN, SET THE TABLES UP AND PUT CHAIRS UP AND I THANKED HER.
SHE, SHE, SHE WASN'T, SHE WASN'T HAPPY WITH ME.
SO, BUT I, I FELT BAD BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T, I WAS AGGRESSIVE BUT I DIDN'T THINK I WAS THAT AGGRESSIVE.
IT WAS JUST LIKE WE GOT 25 WOMEN IN THE BAR DRINKING, WAITING FOR THIS MEETING.
THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR IT.
AND I'VE BEEN AT GOLF CAMP ALL DAY.
I HAVE AMENDMENT ON THAT DEALING WITH MY 10 BOYS REC 18 WOMEN'S CLUB MEET ON THE LAST TUESDAY.
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THEY CHANGED THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.YOU KNOW, WE, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE WON'T, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SMALL BOARD CHANGE AND THERE'S SOME THINGS WE WANT BRING BACK, BUT THAT'S, WE DO BECAUSE IT'S A FUNDRAISER.
AS MUCH AS ANYTHING'S NOT WE DO, WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATING OUR BYLAWS AGAIN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY STARTED THAT.
I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WOMEN ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH THAT.
IT'S LIKE COMING HERE TO A MEETING.
I MEAN, I'M NOT A MEMBER, BUT I'VE GO BY WHEN THERE'S, IT'S A GOOD BAR.
BEZELS AND FOOD FOR THAT MATTER.
AND HERE UNDER THE, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE QUAD CLUB TOURNAMENT, TAKING OUT THE REFERENCE TO PAYING MM-HMM.
BUT THEN WE KEPT IT DOWN BELOW.
I THINK WE UPDATED THAT LAST TIME.
I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED STILL.
THIS WAS ON THE, I THINK WE JUST UPDATED D TO SAY TO HARTWELL RATHER THAN IT HAD SAID SUPERINTENDENT OF GOLF OPERATIONS.
I THINK SHOULD WE TAKE OUT REFERENCE TO ANOTHER LONG BEACH BASED CHARITY? BECAUSE HOW WOULD WE, OR WOULD THAT GO THROUGH HARTWELL EITHER WAY IF THEY DID THAT? UM, TO SECURE SUCH AN EVENT MUST GENERATE.
SO I MEAN IF IT, IF IT DOES THAT, I WOULD REMOVE LONG BEACH BASED CHARITY.
WE DO, WE WE DON'T DO IT FROM THAT.
WE DO IT THROUGH OUR, OUR, UM, RAFFLE TICKETS.
WE HOST THE, THIS YEAR WE'RE HOSTING AGAIN THE LONG BEACH WOMEN'S SHELTER.
IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME AS WHAT'S READING UP THERE.
AM I CORRECT? SO WE'RE OKAY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING? YEAH.
I MEAN ALL OF THAT'S FINE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT DOING A TOURNAMENT TILL US THAT MANY.
IT'S EVERY WEEK WHEN WE BUY RAFFLES.
I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE WE WEREN'T YEAH, YEAH.
I DON'T, I MEAN THAT'S WONDERFUL YOU'RE DOING THAT.
WE DO THE WOMEN SHELTER, THAT'S SEPTEMBER.
WE USUALLY GIVE THAT CHECK TO 'EM IN, IN UH, DECEMBER OF OUR CHRISTMAS.
I THINK LAST YEAR WE GAVE HIM $900.
YOU KNOW, SANDY HAD DIED FROM SANDY WAS IN IVERSON WAS ALL, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, SHE WAS REALLY THE CATALYST IN THAT.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S SEPTEMBER.
OH FOR YOUR MARSHA, FOR YOUR AMBASSADORS.
YEAH, WE DO IT AS OUR CLUB AND WE HAVE DONE BREAST CANCER ANGELS IN THE PAST AND THEY DO, THEY CHANGE, IT KEPT THE SHELTER.
I THINK THIS YEAR I THINK WE, I ADDED THIS, THE SMOKING THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SO 'CAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL SO IT'LL JUST BE TIMING WHETHER WE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE IT OR NOT.
WE CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, APPROVE BOTH VERSIONS OF THE MANUAL AND THEN IF AND WHEN IT GETS APPROVED, THEN IT'LL BE, I THINK YOU INCLUDE IT AND YEAH, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ON.
I JUST WANTED CITY ATTORNEY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE.
AND THEN I THINK THE REST IS JUST, IT'S JUST OUR POLICIES.
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SOMETHING, SO I NEED A CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT THIS, THE CONTRACT MONITORING.'CAUSE IT'S NOT EXACTLY HOW IT'S WORKING NOW IN TERMS OF LIKE JOB TITLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND THINGS.
SO I DUNNO WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M GONNA ASK HER WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
SORRY FOR ALL THE FORMATTING ISSUES TOO.
A SCHEDULE OF THE UPDATED CALL FEES.
GO WITH THAT MANUAL OR, OR THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT MANUAL IS IN EFFECT TILL WE REDO IT AGAIN DOWN THE ROAD.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT US TO DO THAT, I, I THINK THAT'S THE REASON FOR HAVING THE LINK IN THERE WAS TO NOT.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE, I MEAN IT'S NOT, IT WOULD BE ONCE A YEAR.
ME LIKE UPDATING, IT'S BASICALLY A PDF THAT LIVES ONLINE.
SO YOU ME UPDATING THAT AND THEN LIKE REPOSTING IT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, BUT THE FEEDS ARE POSTED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THEN SO THEN THAT'S WHY THE, THE, IT'S LISTED HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY YOU TO MAKE IT A LIVE ACTUAL LIVE LINK.
I COULD PROBABLY MAKE THIS AN ACTUAL LINK AND THEN YOU CLICK ON IT AND IT TAKES YOU TO THE BE.
SO, UM, IS THAT WHERE IT IS NOW OR DID YOU MOVE IT? SO IF YOU GO TO BACK OURS HERE, IT POINTS TO NOW, WELL IT DOESN'T NOW.
SO THERE'S A POINT TO, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS HAVE IT POINT TO THE CITY FEES AND CHARGE OF SCHEDULE WHERE THEY'RE ALL LISTED AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL APPROVES.
SO, UM, LEMME SHOW YOU WHAT IT SAYS NOW.
NOW THEY'RE HERE, BUT THIS IS OH, OKAY.
UM, SO YEAH, SO IT GOES TO THE CITY VIEW.
SO WHAT'S FUNNY IS THAT THIS LIKE LEANS BACK, THIS TAKES YOU BACK TO R PAGE.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD ACTUALLY GO TO GARY, THE, UM, YOUR PAGE RHE YEAH.
FOR THE MOST CURRENT, BECAUSE YOU GUYS UPDATED THAT AS OF JULY 1ST, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO YEAH, SO THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HAVE THEM UPDATE.
I THINK I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE AN ISSUE, LIKE A COUNSEL NEEDS TO APPROVE IT OR NOT.
AND THEN, YEAH, TIMING COULD GET A LITTLE WEIRD THERE.
I, I SAW A SPELLING THERE THIS MORNING AND I MEANT TO NOTE IT AND IT WAS A, I THOUGHT IT WAS WORD.
IT WOULD BE LIKE, IT WAS A, THE FRENCH WAY OF SPELLING.
AND I LOOKED DOWN, I THOUGHT, OH I GOTTA, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THIS ONE, BUT IT'S NOT.
'CAUSE THAT'S SPELLED CORRECTLY ETIQUETTE.
THERE WAS A YOU WHERE THE Q SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON SOMETHING.
IF YOU, IF I FIND IT AGAIN, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
I THOUGHT I WROTE IT DOWN BUT I DIDN'T.
IT MIGHT HAVE MADE ON MY GOT IT.
THERE'S ALSO, I STILL HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH AND FIXED ALL THE PLACES WHERE THERE'S LIKE TWO SPACES AND KIND OF THAT STUFF THAT'S SLIPPED OVER FROM THIS BEING A REALLY LIKE OLD DOCUMENT.
SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A FINAL DECISION ON THE SMOKING THEN OR NO.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE, LIKE THE COUNCIL ACTION ITEM.
SO, UM, I'M MEETING WITH MY CITY ATTORNEY NEXT WEEK AND I'LL KIND OF MAYBE FEEL HER OUT ON IT.
BUT COUNCIL'S BASICALLY THEY'RE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY LIGHT IN JULY AND THEN AUGUST ANYWAY, SO, UM, UH, IT'S ABOUT A SIX WEEK WINDOW ON THE CALENDAR AND THAT'S WHEN IT'S, THAT'S WHEN YOUR LETTER'S READY TO GO.
AND OUR LETTER'S NOT READY TO GO YET, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
IT'S, WE GOT LIKE A DRAFT ALREADY THAT WE'RE WORKING FROM.
SO WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, AREN'T WE? ABOUT A YEAR INTO THAT ONE.
BUT NOBODY ELSE IS COMING IN COMPLAINT, SO.
UNLESS YOU'VE HAD IT AT THE COURSE LEVEL.
YEAH, I MEAN WE'RE KIND OF LIKE SLOW IN THE WAY WE LIKE APPROACH TALKING ABOUT IT AND TAKING ACTION ON IT.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS, I ALWAYS HELP THE CITY.
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WORKING ON IT.YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, I'LL GET MORE DIRECTION FROM CITY ATTORNEY NEXT WEEK ABOUT WHAT IT, LIKE, HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE FOR US TO GET ON.
'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S A PROJECT LIKE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TOGETHER AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A DIFFERENT PROCESS FROM HOW WE USUALLY BRING THINGS TO COUNCIL.
SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK HER ABOUT IT.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE HERE.
UM, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK ON THESE POLICIES.
I, WE DON'T REALLY EVER UPDATE POLICIES AND THINGS.
OH, SO THE UM, THAT'S FOR THAT.
WAIT, IS THIS FOR THE WHOLE DOCUMENT? WHAT IS THAT AUTHORIZED ALL FOR? I JUST SAW SOMETHING ABOUT WATER QUALITY OR SORRY, HABITAT AND ENVIRONMENT.
AND I KNOW THE LAKES REOPEN HERE.
UHHUH,
A LOT OF, SO I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHEN I PASSED, I GO, WELL IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING'S MOVED INTO THE NEW LAKE, BUT IT'S LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF ALGAE WAS DAMNED UP.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT YOU GOTTA LOOK OUT FOR THAT FOR THE BIG LAKE PROJECT OR NOT, BUT WELL WE FILL THE LAKE OR IT FEEDS INTO IT.
SO, AND THEN WE PUMP OUT OF THE LAKE NOW TO IRRIGATE THE COURSE.
UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ALGAE PROBLEM IN THE BIG PARK LAKE THAT WEEK THAT I RECALL.
NOT IN THE BIG PARK LAKE THAT I CAN RECALL.
I KNOW THEY'RE HAVING SOME LINER ISSUES ALREADY, BUT WE MET OUT THERE WITH 'EM TWO WEEKS AGO LAST WEEK.
UM, BUT UNLESS THERE'S A BIG LEAK IN THAT ONE, LIKE EIGHT, IT SHOULD BE FULL AGAIN.
YOU JUST MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT EIGHT.
YEAH, THAT WAS ON FRIDAY I SAW WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE.
BUT THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD CIRCULATED OR YEAH, THAT'S BEFORE WE GOT ANY APPROVAL TO USE THE WATER FROM THE LAKE.
I WAS LAUGHING BECAUSE THERE'S A PAIR OF, UH, EGYPTIAN GEESE AT HARTWELL AND THEY COME UP TO THE GLASS OH.
AND THAT MALE, HE PUTS HIS WING OUT AND HE TALKS TO IT AND HE SCREAMS AND HE PICKS THE GLASS.
AND I LOST MY 10 BOYS THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE THEY WERE LIKE, WHAT'S HE DOING?
ARE KIND OF, AND THEY KIND OF SHOOT HIM BACK OUT.
THE, THE MARSHAL OR WHOEVER THE WOMAN IS, YOU KNOW, WORKS THERE, AMBASSADOR AND SHE SHOOTING HIM BACK OUT.
BUT SOON AS SHE LEFT ME IN, THEY CIRCLED BACK FROM THOSE GLASS WINDOWS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A COMPETITOR.
I WAS LIKE, YOU YOU GUYS NEED TO COME OVER HERE.
WE GOT THE LAKE DONE POND DUCK PONDS DONE.
SO THE WAY, SO THE WAY THIS WILL GET APPROVED, I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SOME TWEAKS TO MAKE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE OR YOU KNOW, WE, I NEED TO SQUARE AWAY OUR STUFF AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT AS TO FORM.
AND THAT MEANS THAT IT'S GOOD FOR LIKE OUR DIRECTOR AND CITY MANAGER.
I THINK THEY BOTH SIGN OFF ON IT.
SO I'LL HAVE OBVIOUSLY LIKE YOU GUYS REVIEW IT ONE MORE TIME BEFORE SHE DOES THAT.
AND THEN ONCE SHE APPROVES IT, THEN WE'LL BRING IT TO COMMITTEE, THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN IT'LL BE, 'CAUSE THEN IT'LL BE READY FOR SIGNATURE FOR DIRECTOR AND CITY MANAGER.
SO, UM, SHE'LL HAVE ALREADY KIND OF GIVEN IT HER BLESSING BEFORE COMMITTEE SAYS, GO AHEAD AND SIGN IT.
YEAH, I'LL HAVE AN, I'LL GIVE AN UPDATE.
UM, I'LL, I CAN PUT IT IN THE AGENDA.
REMIND ME HAVE AN UPDATE ON THIS.
WELL I GUESS WE'LL HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE.
SO, UM, I'LL HAVE A STATUS UPDATE IN SEPTEMBER ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.
ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS FROM THE COMMITTEE? IT LOOKS GOOD TO ME.
I WAS GONNA CHECK THAT SEPTEMBER TO MAKE SURE I HAD THE RIGHT DATE.
OH YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE FIFTH.
WHICH MEETING IS THAT? TWO 30.
YOU YOU'LL WANNA DOUBLE CHECK THAT GARY.
WELL, THAT LAST MEETING, I APOLOGIZE THAT I MISSED.
YOU KNOW, AND I ONLY LIVED 10 MINUTES AWAY, BUT I HAD TO, I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE AND I WAS JUST LIKE, OH MY GOD, I'M SO SORRY BECAUSE IT CAME THE NIGHT BEFORE MYSELF.
I CHECKED ON EVERYBODY WE KNOW.
I THOUGHT MY CALENDAR, MY CALENDAR HAD IT FOR THAT DAY.
BUT THEN WE GOT THAT EMAIL IT SAID THE OTHER DAY.
SO I THOUGHT, WELL MAYBE I WAS WRONG.
IS MEETING OR IS THAT, NO, THAT'S FULL.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE INTERVIEW.
THAT'LL BE OUR FIRST MEETING WAS THE DATE OF THAT.
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I DUNNO.18 ON THE FIFTH FOR THE WHOLE COMMITTEE.
SHOULD WE ADJOURN? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NONE.