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PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL IS WHAT IT IS? YES, MA'AM.COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR MCRAY.
AND I KNOW THAT OUR TWO MISSING COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAVE ALREADY HAVE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THAT THEY'VE SPOKEN TO YOUR OFFICE EARLIER.
AND, UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO, UM, A RESIGNATION FROM OUR PREVIOUS CHAIR BECAUSE OF HIS WORK COMMITMENTS COLUMN.
KELLY IS NO LONGER A PART OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UH, LET'S START OUT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES ON THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING FROM JUNE 13TH.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONS ON THAT? OKAY.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HAD ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THOSE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING? OKAY.
WE'LL CALL FOR THE QUESTION THEN.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, REVIEW, UH, AND DISCUSS THE ECO OR RENTALS AND PRIVATE SCOOTERS TO OPERATE ON THE EACH PATH ON A 12 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM.
NOW, MR. LELAND, CAN YOU SHARE A STAFF REPORT WITH US? UH, MOTION, UH, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, RECEIVE AND FILE THE DOCUMENTATION.
UH, COMMISSION ON IN APRIL, A UH, A REQUEST FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO PUBLIC WORKS WAS MADE TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF BRINGING SCOTER AND E-BIKE RENTALS TO THE BEACHFRONT HOUSE.
UH, THAT WAS, UH, UH, PROVIDED THEM AND GIVEN A 45 DAY RETURN.
AND SO PUBLIC WORKS CAME BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON JUNE 18TH, PROVIDED THAT PRESENTATION AND, UH, DOCUMENTATION, WHICH WE SENT TO YOU FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR VIEWING.
AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING A 12 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM OF OPERATING E SCOOTERS, E-BIKE RENTALS ON THE BEACH BIKE PATH.
UH, PUBLIC WORKS STATED TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY WOULD NEED TIME PRIOR TO IMPLEMENTING THIS PRO, UH, THIS PROGRAM.
UH, THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE SEVERAL MONTHS AT THE EARLIEST.
UH, SO WE'RE HERE TODAY IN FRONT OF YOU TO ALLOW YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS, UH, PILOT PROGRAM AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT OUR THAILAND'S FOOTPRINT.
WE ALREADY HAVE E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS ON IT RIGHT NOW, AND I'VE SEEN MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO GET OFF THE WALK LANE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST CASUALLY WALKING.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA RENT 'EM.
UM, I, THERE'S, THERE'S NO POLICE AND I, I HAVE A POLICE HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO STAFF THAT UP TREMENDOUSLY JUST ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RACING UP AND DOWN.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THAT.
I'M JUST WONDERING, HOW DO YOU CONTROL IT? HOW DO YOU CONTROL THE, THE SPEED LIMITS? HOW DO YOU CONTROL THE PEOPLE BEING LITERALLY PUSHED OFF? AND IF YOU NOTICE, UH, IT'S USUALLY NOT JUST ONE PERSON WRITING AND IT'S 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
UM, NOT JUST A, THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
UH, LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS, UH, COMMISSIONER MC.
UM, THAT IS WHAT THIS 12, 12 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM'S FOR, TO, TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF HAVING THEM ON, ON THE BEACH BIKE PATH, BUT ALSO HOW WE WORK TO MAINTAIN IT SAFELY.
SO THIS 12 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO BE LEADING, UH, THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO SAFETY AND BASIC OPERATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THERE.
THIS IS A RENTAL, THOUGH, A COMPANY THAT WANTS TO COME OUT AND RENT THESE.
THERE'LL BE, UH, RENTAL COMPANIES THAT ARE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY OF, CITY OF LONG BEACH VIA, ITS OVER OVERARCHING CITYWIDE, UM, UH, MOBILITY PROGRAM.
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USING THE BIKE PACK.UM, SO I HAVE TWO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF MARINE BUREAU STAFF IS PREPARED TO RESPOND TO THIS.
UM, WILL THERE BE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO GIVE FEEDBACK IN THE COURSE OF THIS PILOT PROJECT? FOR INSTANCE, AS, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER MCC CRAIG JUST MENTIONED, SOMEONE WHO GETS RUN OFF THE BEACH PATH AND WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT TO SOMEONE WHO MIGHT WANNA KNOW ABOUT HOW A PARTICULAR E SCOOTER DRIVER WAS, YOU KNOW, UM, HANDLING THEMSELVES WHILE THEY'RE OUT ON THE BIKE BIKE PATH ONE DAY.
IS THERE A PROVISION FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE FEEDBACK, EITHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, LET'S JUST SAY TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING THE PILOT PROJECT? IT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
WHICH DEPARTMENT, WHAT GROUP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, LET'S SAY, UH, COLLECTING AND COLLATING AND, YOU KNOW, MANAGING THE DATA THAT DOES COME FROM FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKING A COMPLAINT OR, UM, DEALING WITH POLICE REPORTS OR DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDING TO A, AN URGENT, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCIDENT ON THE BEACH.
THAT'S A RELATIVELY WIDE RANGE OF INCIDENTS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN ON BEACH PATH AND THE COURSE OF THE USE OF THESE, UM, SCOOTERS, BUT IS WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING ALL OF THAT? THIS THIS'LL BE A PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS LED PILOT PROGRAM.
SO, UH, THE MANAGEMENT OF ALL THE DATA COLLECTED WOULD GO THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
NOW, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO INTRODUCE THAT PROGRAM.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS, IS THEY'RE FLUSHING THAT OUT.
THEY'RE WORKING TO SET UP THE PROGRAM.
UM, ONE OF THE, THE KEY ELEMENTS OF THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, WILL BE COMMUNITY INPUT AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
SO THAT, THAT WILL BE A BIG PART NOW WHAT THAT INSTRUMENT OF THAT COMMUNICATION IS GONNA BE.
UH, NOT SURE YET, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE OF THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A STRONG ELEMENT OF THE PILOT PROGRAM AND THERE WILL BE AN APPARATUS FOR IT.
SO, UM, AND ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP.
SO THAT WILL PRESUMABLY INVOLVE, UM, MARINE BUREAU UNDER THE AUSPICES OF PUBLIC, UM, PARKS, REC AND MARINE.
I MEAN, ARE THEY GONNA BE PULLED INTO THIS IN THE COURSE OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM? JUST ASKING.
AT THIS TIME IT'S UNDER PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, WE TAKE OUR DIRECTION FROM, UH, DIRECTOR DENNIS, THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, AND THE CITY MANAGER.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE WILL BE, WE'LL BE INVOLVED TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE ADVISED IN ORDER TO BE INVOLVED.
MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION IS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO RECEIVE A FILE TO REQUEST REPORTING.
AND I'LL LET YOU PONDER THAT AS WE GET THE NEXT TWO QUESTIONS.
SO IN READING THE RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW, IT SAYS E SCOOTER RENTALS AND PRIVATE SCOOTERS.
BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT ELECTRIC SKATEBOARDS, E-BIKES, MINIBIKES, EVERYTHING'S BEING, BEING USED ON THE, ON THE BIKE PATH RIGHT NOW.
AND I KNOW IN SUMMERTIME WHEN I RIDE MY BIKE ON THE BIKE PATH, YOU'VE GOT FAMILIES MM-HMM.
FAMILIES, THEIR KIDS ARE JUST WANDERING ONTO THE BIKE PATH ON, ON OTHER OCCASIONS, YOU, YOU'VE GOT FOLKS WALKING THEIR DOGS WHO ARE COMING FROM THE BEACH, UH, THE DOG BEACH.
AND WHEN THIS SAYS SCOTER RENTALS AND PRIVATE SCOOTERS, THE PRIVATE SCOOTERS ARE ALREADY USING IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT, BUT ON THE RENTAL PROGRAMS, WHEN THOSE THINGS STOP, THEY JUST STOP AND PEOPLE JUST DROP 'EM WHEREVER THEY ARE.
AND I CAN JUST ENVISION A WHOLE CLUSTER OF BIKE CYCLISTS COMING DOWN THE BIKE PATH, AND HERE'S ONE OF THESE THINGS ON THE BIKE PATH AND HAVING JUST A PILE UP OF, OF PEOPLE INJURED BECAUSE OF THOSE, THOSE SCOOTERS ON THAT JUST DROPPED THERE.
AND THEN HOW DO THE VENDORS GO PICK THEM UP? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TRUCKS AND CARS.
AND I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I REPORTED THIS, THIS IS THE LAST MEETING, SOMEBODY LEFT A LIME RIGHT IN ON MY PROPERTY.
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CALLED THE ONE 800 NUMBER AND THEY SAID, OH, WE'LL BE RIGHT OUT.THEY WEREN'T OUT FOR FOUR MORE DAYS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S AN APP.
IT'S, IT'S EITHER GO LONG BEACH, GO BEACH THAT YOU, YOU REPORT A SCOOTER IF IT'S IN A AREA THAT IS LIKE ON A SIDEWALK OR NOT IN A DESIGNATED SPACE.
IF YOU SEND THAT INTO GO LONG BEACH, UH, THE VENDOR THAT OWNS AND OPERATES, THAT PARTICULAR BRAND HAS SO MUCH TIME TO GET THAT.
AND THEY'RE AT ABOUT 80% EFFICIENCY.
AND THEN THEY START GETTING FINED BY THE CITY.
HE, I, I, UNFORTUNATELY, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE INCREMENTS, BUT THEY ARE FINED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR EVERY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HOUR OR DAY THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S NOT REMOVED.
UH, AND THEN WITH THE, UH, I'M TAKING PARCELING OUT, UH, IN, UH, IN RESPONSE TO ACTIVITY ON THE BIKE PATH.
UM, IT'S GOT A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE, UH, PRIVATELY OWNED, UH, SCOOTERS AND SKATEBOARDS, MOTORIZED, ELECTRICAL ELECTRIFIED OUT THERE.
UM, THERE ARE STATE LAWS THAT DESCRIBE WHAT CONSTITUTES A CYCLE.
AND MOST OF THE STUFF OUT THERE STILL REMAINS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A BICYCLE.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THIS IS WHAT CONSTITUTES AN E-BIKE? WHAT CONSTITUTES A BICYCLE ON OUR PATHWAYS? UH, ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO PLACE A, A SPEED LIMIT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT, THAT ARE GONNA BE COME UP THROUGH THIS PILOT PROGRAM, AND WE'RE HOPING WE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE.
JUST FROM OUR DISCUSSION HERE, UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN OR, OR SEEK TO CONSIDER THAT THE MARINE BUREAU SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT, STRATEGIC INPUT INTO PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT HOW THIS PILOT PROJECT AFFECTS THE SCOPE.
UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING FOR OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO USE TO GO LONG BEACH APP AND TO CALL PUBLIC WORKS.
IT'S ANOTHER THING WHEN YOU HAVE POLICE AND FIRE RESPONDING.
AND THAT'S WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR CATCHMENT AREA.
SO I THINK, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEING LED BY PUBLIC WORKS, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE, UH, IT TO BE NOTED HOW IMPORTANT, UH, ESPECIALLY TO MR. DENNIS, IT IS FOR OUR STAKEHOLDERS THAT THE FOLKS WHO RECREATE THE FOLKS WHO USE OUR GEOGRAPHY, UM, THAT WE ALSO HAVE A WAY TO GIVE INPUT AND NOT JUST BY CALLING PUBLIC WORKS.
I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO AT THE, AT THE MARINE BUREAU, ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY.
SO, I, I, I'D, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY STRATEGIC AND MINDFUL ABOUT HOW WE WE INTERACT WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM BECAUSE THE, THE POINT OF THE PILOT PROGRAM IS TO SEE IF THIS IS FEASIBLE WITHIN A CERTAIN STRUCTURE OF STAFF SUPPORT.
SO, UH, IF WE'RE INCLUDED IN THAT STRUCTURE OF STAFF SUPPORT, WE WILL, WE WILL WORK WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE PILOT PROGRAM.
IF WE'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT STRUCTURE OF STAFF, OF OF STAFF RESOURCE, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ADVISING PUBLIC WORKS, BUT WE'RE NOT SKEWING THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT BY, BY STEPPING IN IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE IT MAY SKEW RESULTS.
I JUST DON'T WANNA GIVE UP OUR AUTHORITIES.
CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SURE.
UH, I LIKE THE SPEED THING 'CAUSE I LIKE TO, TO WORK WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AND FIND OUT HOW FAST THEY GO.
BECAUSE THE ONES AROUND LONG BEACH STATE AND LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE ARE AMAZING.
WHEN YOU HAVE 20 KIDS GOING DOWN THE STREET WITH NO HELMETS ON, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ONLY IN GRADE SCHOOL, UH, ARE THESE GONNA BE ABLE TO AS AN ADULT OR IS IT GONNA BE AN APP, UM, THAT THEY JUST GO ON, EVERYBODY HAS A PHONE AND, UH, THEY GET ON THE APP AND, AND THEY GO, YEAH, IT'S JUST, IT'S CONCERNING THAT YOU RIDE A HARLEY AND YOU GO FIVE MILES AN HOUR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE HELMET ON.
YET THESE KIDS ARE DOING 35, 40 MILES AN HOUR ON THE E-BIKES, BUT WITH NO HELMETS ON AND NO SAFETY.
I MEAN, OPEN SHOWED, IT WORRIES ME ON THE
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LAWSUIT COMING BACK AT THE CITY OF PEOPLE GETTING HURT ON THAT BIKE TRIP BECAUSE, UH, UM, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE WALKING OUR DOG.AND WHEN THE, THE, I DON'T WANNA LOOK OVER, I'M LOOKING AT YOU TOO, BUT, UH, WALKING THE DOG AND WHEN JUST THE BIKE RIDERS GO ON AND THEY TELL YOU TO MOVE OFF, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE RIDING THEIR BIKES, AND I'M JUST THINKING THESE E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS ARE JUST, I WOULD ENTERTAIN, UH, WITH, WHEN A AMENDMENT TO THAT FROM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER KAJA THAT LET'S DO AN AMENDMENT AND LET'S HOLD IT WHERE IT COMES BACK TO US INSTEAD OF A RECEIVE AND FILE.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD ON IT.
UH, TO ANSWER THE SAFETY QUESTION, UM, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UH, A LOT OF THESE SCOOTERS AND BIKES ARE STILL CONSIDERED BICYCLES.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE HELD TO THE LAWS OF THE STATE LAWS OF THE COUNTY CITY.
UM, SERGEANT SPRINKLER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BICYCLE HELMETS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE? WORN BY KIDS UNDER 16 YEARS OLD.
BUT AGAIN, AGAIN, OUR, OUR, OUR LOCAL HELMET LAWS WOULD APPLY FOR THE AGES THEY APPLY TO FOR RIDING CYCLES.
SO THAT, TO ANSWER YOUR HELMET QUESTION, CORRECT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE LAW NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ANYWAY FOR WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
IT USED TO BE, WEREN'T REQUIRED TO WEAR 18, 18, 18 AND UNDER.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? DID YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? UM, UH, YES.
I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SUGGEST AN AMENDMENT, UM, TO THIS, UH, RECEIVING FILE.
I'M GETTING A GO TO PUBLIC AMENDMENT.
OR DO WE GO AS BOLD ONE? YOU GO TO, YOU GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE, UM, ON THE AMEND AS IT STANDS.
AND THEN DO AMENDMENT, GO BACK OUT AGAIN.
ANY MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SECOND ITEM REGARDING THE E SCOOTERS? UH, YOU MENTIONED LIABILITY AND YOUR NAME.
UH, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THEIR E-BIKES AT LEAST HAVE RIDDEN IT ONCE BEFORE THEY GET DOWN TO THE BEACH.
UH, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE EVER BEEN ON ONE BEFORE.
UH, THE OTHER WILL THESE HAVE A SPEED, THE STRICTER ON THEM, SOMETHING THAT KEEPS THEM DOWN TO FIVE, 10 MILES AN HOUR.
UH, AND AND LASTLY, YOU DON'T INVITE A VAMPIRE ACROSS YOUR THRESHOLD,
UM, ANY OF YOU RIDE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS OR ELECTRIC BIKES? LOOK AT ME.
MY, AND I LIVE NEAR THE BEACH.
WE RIDE OUR BICYCLES AND WACA BEACH REGULARLY, AND THERE'S CURRENTLY, THERE'S NO SPEED LIMIT ON THE PATH.
WE SEE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND BIKES OR PRIVATE ONES.
UH, THERE'S CURRENTLY A CITY ORDINANCE ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT SAYS E SCOOTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THE BEACH PATH AT ALL.
HOWEVER, I DON'T, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM MARINE SAFETY AND THE POLICE WHO ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE NEVER SEE ANY ENFORCEMENT OF ANY RULES AT ALL.
SO WE HAVE THE MIX THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, AND IF YOU'RE RIDING ALONG ON WHAT I'M NOW CALLING A HUMAN BICYCLE, AND THE ELI OR AN E SCOOTER COMES UP BEHIND YOU, THEY'RE VERY QUIET.
SO IF YOU MOVE A FEW INCHES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU CAN GET HIT BY ONE OF THESE HEAVY BEAUTY ENTERPRISES.
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY FIRST HAS TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE FROM OUR POLICE AND FIRE PEOPLE.
WHAT KIND OF ACCIDENTS HAVE THERE BEEN? IS THERE ACTUALLY ENFORCEMENT? IF SO, HOW WAS IT DONE? AND WHAT IS THE SITUATION? BECAUSE THESE HAVE BEEN OUT
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THERE LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND WE DO SEE ALL OVER OUR STREETS IN THE SHORE, UH, E BY E SCOOTERS LYING AROUND EVERYWHERE THEY BLOCK, UH, A DA ACCESS.UM, THEY'RE IN THE STREET THERE, SIT FOR DAYS ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT FROM OUR OWN PEOPLE FIRST AND THEN TRY TO GO FROM THERE AS TO WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO AND DEAL WITH, AND THEN TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A SAFE WAY TO DO IT.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND IT SAYS, A RECOMMEND, THIS IS ABOUT A RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST PUBLIC WORKS TO INITIATE A 12 MONTH PILOT STUDY.
SO WOULDN'T A PILOT STUDY GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION THAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS REALLY NOT ABOUT, UH, HOW SAFE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
EVERYBODY'S HAD ISSUES WITH THIS, BUT THE INFORMATION ISN'T IN ONE PLACE YET.
PUBLIC WORKS WOULD DO THIS FOR 12 MONTHS.
AND, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON REALLY IS JUST TO DO THE STUDY, TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE CURRENT LAWS ARE, WHAT KIND OF SAFETY IS, UH, AT ISSUE, AND, UH, WHETHER MULTIPLE COMPANIES ARE INVOLVED OR HOW THIS IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED GOING FORWARD.
AND, AND THE REQUESTED ACTION WAS APPROVED, THE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO INITIATE A STUDY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT RECEIVING AND FILING DOES, BUT, UM, THE STUDY SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK, TODD, YOU WANNA DO ADDRESS? YES.
SO, MR. BREER, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING UP ON THE SCREEN IS FROM THE, UH, COUNCIL AGENDA FROM JUNE 18TH.
UH, THIS WAS APPROVED ON JUNE 18TH.
SO THE PILOT PROGRAM IS GOING FORWARD.
UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'RE BRINGING IT IN FRONT OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION TO DISCUSS AND, AND LOOK AT HOW THE BREED ADVISORY COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO BE INFORMED MOVING FORWARD ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM AND THE RESULTS AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
WE'RE PUTTING MORE MEAT ON THE, ON THE, ON THE RED BONES.
SO IT'S JUST NOT BONES OUT THERE.
IT'S LIKE SAID IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, UH, BUT THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND FROM OF OUR UNDERSTANDING, SAFETY'S GONNA BE A BIG PICTURE HERE.
AND, AND FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY AS WELL, GIVEN THE FACT THAT OUR MARINE BUREAU STAFF AND VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTS OF THEIR OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE BEACH PATH, UM, WILL HAVE, WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION DOES SERVE AN ADVISORY FUNCTION TO THE MARINE BUREAU.
SO WE DO HAVE AN ELEMENT OF, UM, INVOLVEMENT IN THE COURSE OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
SO BY, UH, SORT OF MAKING OUR VOICES HEARD NOW, PRESUMABLY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MONITOR THE PILOT PROGRAM, I'M SURE, ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THE OTHER GOOD FOLKS AT CITY HALL.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION? OKAY, BEFORE I GO TO A VOTE ON THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT? I WOULD.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST THAT, UM, MARINE BUREAU, UH, OFFER, UH, ROUTINE UPDATES TO THE PILOT PROGRAM AS IMPLEMENTED.
AND, UM, VOTING ON COUNCIL COMMISSIONER.
CAN WE ADD A FEW WINDOW AS OF SAFETY FRIENDLY REC FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? GO AHEAD.
UH, I THINK SAFETY, SPEED, UM, AND AGE, UH, UH, OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING THOSE I THINK WOULD BE, UH, UH, AND ENFORCEMENT.
THAT WAY WE'RE GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF MEAT TO YOUR, TO YOUR AMENDMENT OR IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK WITH US WITH SPECIFICS.
AND WHO MADE THAT ORIGINAL MOTION? UM, UH, BRUCE AND THEN THERESA SECOND.
AND YES, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND I'LL SECOND, SECOND OUR COMMISSIONER'S MOTION.
ANY COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION ON, UM, ON THAT AMENDMENT? GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? NO.
THEN WE'LL BRING IT FORWARD AND GO FOR A VOTE.
YOU HAVE TO SAY ANY OF OPPOSED? OPPOSED? ALL, UH, MR. LELAND, LOOKING FORWARD
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TO YOUR REPORT.WE WILL START OUR MONTHLY, UH, MANAGEMENT REPORTS WITH, UH, CHIEF MEDINA FROM, UH, MARINE SAFETY.
UH, A REPORT FROM MARINE SAFETY.
OUR LIFEGUARD DIVISION HAD A FANTASTIC 4TH OF JULY.
UH, BY AND LARGE, ALL THE PUBLIC THAT CAME TO USE OUR BEACHES, UH, HAD A GOOD TIME AND WENT HOME SAFE.
UM, WE DID HAVE ONE INCIDENT ON THE WATER WITH A VESSEL THAT HAD A, UH, TRAGIC ACCIDENT THAT, THAT IS UNDER INVESTIGATION DURING SAFETY, IN CONJUNCTION WITH LONG BEACH.
PD IS RUNNING THAT INVESTIGATION.
AND SO WE AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY DETAILS THAT TO COG OR, OR ANY OF THAT.
BUT I'LL WORK YOU THROUGH THAT.
AND, UM, I DID WANT TO PROVIDE JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE CALIFORNIA MOTOR CART AND HOW E SAFETY IS CURRENTLY TRACKING THAT.
UM, AND, AND MOST OF OUR VESSEL STOPS IN OUR BOAT OUT IN THE WATER ARE RENTALS PRIMARILY, PRIMARILY WHERE MOST OF OUR IMPORTANT IS FOCUSED ON.
UH, WE DON'T DO MANY VESSEL STOPS ON ACTUAL, UH, REGISTERED.
SO, UH, RENTALS DON'T REQUIRE, UH, THE OPERATOR CARRY A CALIFORNIA VOTER CARD.
UH, WE KNOW THAT JANUARY 1ST, 2025, ALL UH, OWNERS AND OPERATORS OF VESSELS WILL HAVE TO CARRY ONE.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN TRACKING THAT, BUT WE INTEND AT EVERY VESSEL STOP THAT WE DO, WE WILL BE TRACKING WHETHER THEY HAVE A CARD OR NOT.
AT THIS POINT, ALL OF OUR, UH, ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN EDUCATION, RESPECT TO THE CARD, UH, UH, WHETHER THEY WERE CARRYING ONE OR NOT.
UH, EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE, WE'RE GONNA START, START TRACKING IT.
AND, UM, I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET IF WE'RE GONNA START ENFORCING THAT CATEGORY ONE YET.
I'D LIKE TO KIND OF LIKE, WE REALLY FOCUS ON EDUCATION FOR A LOT OF OUR ENFORCEMENT.
A LOT OF THEM ARE NEW VOTING AND WE WANT TO GET THEM SAFE.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
OH, IS THERE, UH, ANY ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON, JUNIOR GUARDS THAT PEOPLE MAY BE INTERESTED IN VIEWING? WELL, OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, WE DO HAVE PETER JUMP SECURING FOR ALL 800 PLUS JUNIOR GUARD.
UH, KIDS STARTED TODAY, THIS MORNING, I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO JUMP OFF THE FIRE CHIEF AND A COUNCIL MEMBER
UH, SO THAT, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD WATER, 71 DEGREES.
AND THAT'LL BE GOING OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, SO FEEL FREE TO STOP BY AND SEE.
AND IF ANY OF YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS WANNA MAKE A JUMP OFF THE HERE, I CAN READ THAT.
MY WIFE WOULD ASK YOU TO DO THAT.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.
CHIEF MEDINA, UM, WHAT HAS BEEN THE RATE OF STINGRAY BITES OR I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BITES OR STINGS? STINGRAY STINGS TREATMENT FOR SPEECH HOURS? IT HASN'T BEEN TOO BAD UP TO NOW.
WE'LL HAVE DAYS, WE'LL HAVE A LARGE NUMBER, BUT SO FAR, SO GOOD FOR THE START OF THE SUMMER.
UM, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT COUNT, BUT I'VE SEEN DAYS WHERE THAT'S ALL THE GUARDS ARE DOING TREATING, AND YOU HAVE A LINE OF, OF VICTIMS AT THE BAY SHORE STATION, BUT WE'VE BEEN LUCKY SO FAR.
CHIEF MEDINA, WHEN THERE ARE STINGRAY, UH, STINGS AND THE LIFEGUARDS ARE NOT ON DUTY, UH, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT THE PUBLIC, UM, DO TO PROVIDE FIRST AID TO THEIR FRIENDS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE SITUATION BEFORE THE GUARDS ARE ON DUTY? UH, THE BEST TREATMENT IS, IS HOT WATER AS HOT AS YOU CAN TOLERATE IT.
UM, AND, UM, THAT WILL, THAT WILL BRING DOWN THE PAIN SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND USUALLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 MINUTES TO TWO HOURS, EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT.
UH, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU'LL GET SOME RELIEF.
YOU'LL JUST HAVE TENDERNESS AND SORENESS FOR FEW DAYS.
UH, QUESTION ON, IS IT ANY BOAT ON THE WATER SAILBOAT, SABBATHS, UH, DUMPY BOATS? ANY MOTORIZED? GREAT QUESTION.
MOTORIZED VESSELS, MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND, UM, UM, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
CHIEF, WITH ALL THE DUFFY RENTALS OF, UH, UH, IF DUFFY'S GO OUT THERE WHEN IT IS MANDATORY IN JANUARY, THAT ANYBODY, BECAUSE WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED RENTALS WILL STILL BE EXEMPT RENTALS.
AS WELL AS ANY ORGANIZING LIKE ADAS OR ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S ORGANIZED WILL STILL BE EXEMPTED.
CAN I RIP MY, MY BOAT TO MYSELF TO GET AWAY FROM NOT HAVING, I'M SORRY.
PUT IT IN YOUR WIFE'S NAME AND THEN
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HAVE HER RENT IT TO YOU.THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT, CHIEF.
WE'RE GONNA SERGEANT SMLA WITH, UH, MARINE PATROL.
UH, JUNE WAS ANOTHER BUSY MONTH FOR US.
WE HAD 105 DISPATCH CALLS FOR SERVICE.
2008 OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES.
WE HAD 33 REPORTS, WHICH IS DOWN FROM 41 LAST MONTH, WHICH CONSISTED OF MOSTLY IMPOUNDS AND FOUND PROPERTY.
WE HAD FOUR ARRESTS RELATED TO BURGLARIES AND THEFTS OR VESSELS.
UM, OUR HIGHEST MONTH, YEAR TO DATE FOR CITATIONS WITH 183, WHICH SURPASSES LAST MONTH, WHICH WAS OUR HIGHEST YEAR TO DATE.
UM, WE HAVE OUR OVERTIME SHIFT, WHICH ADDRESSES THE FARMER'S MARKET BASED UPON CITIZEN COMPLAINTS THAT I RECEIVED.
WE KIND OF FANNED THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO COVER DAVEY'S LAWN RAMP AND BASIN SEVEN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I ATTRIBUTE THE INCREASE TO PARKING CITATIONS FOR.
AND MOST OF THOSE ARE BOTH OUR PARKING.
UM, AND THEN FISHING HAS BEEN A HOT BUTTON TOPIC WITHIN THE MARINAS.
UH, WITHIN THE LAST THREE WEEKS.
WE'VE HAD OVER 50 CONTACTS, A LOT OF THOSE BEING JUVENILES.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE PUSH FORWARD WITH EDUCATION FIRST.
AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE COOPERATIVE AND RECEPTIVE AND WE DON'T HAVE A REPEAT OFFENDER, WE'RE NOT GONNA ISSUE A CITATION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA ISSUE A CITATION TO A 7-YEAR-OLD WHO'S OUT DRAWING A LINE IN THE WATER EITHER.
A LOT OF THE PARENTS, MOST OF THE PARENTS HAVE BEEN RECEPTIVE AND COME AND PICK UP THEIR KID.
AND, UH, THAT'S BEEN GOING PRETTY WELL SO FAR.
THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE ISSUED 15 CITATIONS FOR FISHING, FOR PET OFFENDERS.
IS THERE A PARTICULAR AREA THAT FOLKS ARE FISHING MORE? IT'S KIND OF ALL OVER THE MARINA.
THE SUN'S OUT AND PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND TREAT WITH THE MARINAS, BUT THAT'S WHY WE DO WITH EDUCATION FIRST.
HEY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FISH HERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIRECT 'EM TO AREAS WHERE THEY CAN, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL GO THERE, THEY'LL JUST CALL IT A DAY.
BUT YEAH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH MARINA WHITE.
WHAT ARE THE DESIGNATED FISHING AREAS IN OUR MARINAS, PLEASE? SO DOWN ON THE SHORELINE SIDE, YOU HAVE THE PI THAT ARE ON THE ROAD.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE OVERPASS RIGHT HERE GOING INTO SEAL BEACH WHERE PEOPLE CAN FISH.
SO THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE WE'RE DIRECTING THEM TO.
UM, YEAH, SO ON FOLLOW UP, I I ARE YOU ALLOWED, IS AN INDIVIDUAL ALLOWED TO FISH FROM THEIR KAYAK AS THEY TRAVERSE OUR WATERWAYS? IS THAT, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO WITHIN LIKE ACTUAL DOCKS IN THE FINGERS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
UM, WE'LL GO TO MARINE OPERATIONS WITH BRIAN FLINT.
UM, OCCUPANCY, WE'RE SITTING AT 94.2%, UM, GOOD GUEST DAYS, UH, LAST MONTH WITH A LOT OF THE GODS GOING ON 708 NIGHTS, UH, WITHIN OUR GUEST BIRTHS.
UM, AND JUST WORKING ON A LOT OF PROJECTS TO CLEAN UP, UM, OUTWARD APPEARANCES FOR, FOR THE LONG BEACH MARINA.
SO, UH, LIGHT POLE SIGNS SHOULD BE GOING UP, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UH, CLEAN UP THOSE ONES THAT ARE GETTING TATTERED, UM, THROUGHOUT AL AND SHORELINE.
I WAS DOWN IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, JUST WALKING AROUND ON THE, ON THE DOCKS.
HOW OFTEN DO WE TIGHTEN THE BOLTS THAT ARE ON THOSE? BECAUSE, UH,
I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IS THAT A CONSTANT? IS THAT, AND IT WAS JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AS I WAS WALKING AROUND, BECAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE BOLTS AND, UH, DO WE, IS THAT WORKED ON DAILY, WEEKLY? YEAH.
IT IS A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR, FOR ISSUES OUT OF THE DOCKS.
UH, REPORTING THAT TO COREY, TO HIS TEAM, UH, TO ADDRESS.
UH, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT A BIGGER PUSH ON ANNUAL, UH, TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH OF THOSE GANGWAYS, UH, AND DOCS AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THREE RODS ARE CONNECTED.
THERE'S NO TRIP FALL HAZARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, FACIA BOARDS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
SO YEAH, WE WILL BE DOING ALL THE PM FRONT MAINTENANCE AND, AND WALKS ON THAT.
UH, MORNING KELLY ARMSTRONG AND A, UH, BEACH MAINTENANCE LITTLE AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
UM, OUR HOLIDAY WEEKEND CLEANUPS WERE, UH, A VERY BUSY WEEKEND ON THE BEACHES WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE NUMBERS IN YET FOR TONNAGE OF, OF DEBRIS,
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BUT I KNOW I'M JUST ON ONE OF OUR MAIN TRASH VEHICLES.IT WAS 10 TONS, UH, OF, OF TRASH COLLECTED.
UM, THAT BRINGS OUR, UH, OUR, OUR JUNE, UH, TOTAL, UH, AT LEAST WE HAVEN'T GOT ALL THE TOTALS FOR JULY, BUT OUR JUNE TOTAL IS 124 TONS, UH, IN JUNE.
AND OUR YEAR TOTAL IS UP TO, UH, OVER 1300 TONS OF DEBRIS.
UM, WE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT HIGH TIDES DURING THE WEEKEND AS WELL, SO THAT BROUGHT IN A LOT OF DEBRIS UP PRETTY FAR ON OUR BEACHES, AS WELL AS SOME SOUTH SWELL THAT IMPACTED THE OCEANSIDE PENINSULA.
UH, SO BEACH CREWS ARE, UH, CONSISTENTLY ON THEIR DAILY PATROLS OF, UH, CLEANING THE BEACHES AS WELL AS, UH, CONTINUING THE EROSION AND SAND NOURISHMENT PROJECTS.
OUR QUEENSWAY BAY TEAM, UM, UH, I'VE MENTIONED IT IN THE PAST, IT'S JUST SPECIAL EVENT SEASON DOWN THERE.
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY GOING THROUGH OUR PARKS AND, UH, PRE CHECKING AND, AND, UH, DOING CHECKS BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, SOME OF THE LARGE EVENTS.
UM, AND THEY DID A, A, I THINK I MENTIONED IT LAST MONTH, BUT THEY FINISHED UP THEIR INSTALLATION OF, UH, TREE LIGHTS IN THE PINE AVENUE CIRCLE.
SO 40 LIGHTS WERE UP ON THE TREES AND THEY PROVIDE TREE LIGHTING UP AND DOWN ON THE, THE PATHWAY THERE.
UM, OUR GROUNDS OPERATION, UM, CREW IS, UH, UH, CONTINUING THEIR WORK WITH ASSISTING WITH THE, THE WEEKLY HOMELESS CLEANUPS.
THAT'S BEEN A BIG PUSH, UH, IN A LOT OF OUR AREAS.
BUT, UH, SPECIFICALLY ON OUR BEACH FRONT, WE'RE SEEING A, UH, A LOT MORE ENCAMPMENTS AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH WEEKLY WITH, UH, PD TO ADDRESS THOSE.
IF YOU HAD TO BREAK IT DOWN, HOW MUCH OF THE REFUSE OF THE TRASH WAS FIREWORKS SURROUNDING? UM, ROUGH.
I MEAN, I'M NOT HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO IT, BUT 60%, 70%, 80%, NO.
UH, A VERY FIREWORKS ARE VERY LIGHTENED.
IS IT IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, I MEAN, THEY'RE OUT THERE AND A LOT WERE LEFT SCATTERED ALL OVER THE BEACH AND, AND BIKE PATH AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT OUR MAIN, UH, REAL WEIGHT THERE IS JUST THE, THE, THE BARBECUES, THE, THE, THE CONSUMPTION OF, YOU KNOW, UH, DRINKS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THAT LEADS TO A LOT OF THAT WEIGHT.
PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR BARBECUES OUT THERE AND JUST, YEAH.
WE, THE HOT HOLES STARTED A FEW FIRES.
WE'VE HAD SOME TRASH CANS, UH, BURNED DOWN.
WE HAD A FIRE IN A VEHICLE, UH, DUE TO THE, THE HOT HOLES.
UM, KELLY, ON THE, UM, ON THE DEBRIS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE CIRCUIT PLANT ANYMORE, SO ARE WE HAVING MORE FOR DEBRIS TO BE TAKEN TO
UM, TYPICALLY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WITH THEIR REVENUES OPERATION WOULD UTILIZE, UH, THE SURF PLANT, UH, OPERATIONS.
UM, HISTORICALLY, UH, THE BEACH MAINTENANCE OPERATION, UM, UH, WOULDN'T BRING AS MUCH TO THE SURF ON, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND WAS PRIMARILY, UH, BROUGHT TO, UH, THE CONSOLIDATED REPUBLIC, THAT TRANSFER STATION.
UM, FROM THERE THEY EITHER SIFT THROUGH IT, UM, AND TAKE SOME LANDFILL AND, AND THEY DISPOSE OF IT FROM THERE.
UH, WE'LL MOVE TO CORY FORSTER AND BEACH BEACH.
UM, WE JUST COMPLETED THE, UH, DOOR REPLACEMENTS FOR GRANADA.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT OPEN FOR THE, UH, EARLY MOVIES ON THE BEACH AND, UH, REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO GO SOLAR OVER AT RAIN STADIUM FROM THE GRAND STAND, AS WELL AS THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
UM, I'M WORKING, WORKING ON FILLING, UH, VACANT POSITIONS IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS.
UM, I HAVE THREE GENERAL MAINTENANCE ASSISTANTS THAT WE'VE INTERVIEWED AND OFFERED, UH, POSITIONS TO, UH, BUILDING SERVICES SUPERVISOR.
WE'VE GOT ONE VACANCY MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT, UH, ONE NON CAREER.
I'VE GOT TWO OFFERS OUT AND GENERAL MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT, UM, I'M SORRY, GENERAL MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR TWO.
I'VE GOT ONE VACANCY ALONG WITH MAINTENANCE ASSISTANT FULL-TIME, ABOUT FIVE VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE REALLY PUTTING A PUSH TO TRY AND GET THOSE FILLED AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN START MOVING ON ALL CYLINDERS.
YOU CONTINUED THE CROSS TRAINING AND WE ARE CONTINUING DEVELOPMENT CROSS EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON INSTALLING, UH, SCREW ANCHORS FOR THE COLORADO TO BE AND
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SWIM LINE AND UPCOMING CHRISTMAS TREES IN THE BAY.AND THAT CAN CONCLUDE MY REPORT QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
WHEN TIGHTENING, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WHEN TIGHTENING THE DOCKS, IS THAT A TWO PERSON, SOMEBODY, ONE OF THE, THE BOAT OWNERS STATED THAT IT TAKES SCUBA DIVERS TO GO IN ONE ON ONE SIDE, ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE? WE'VE NEVER DONE IT WITH SCUBA DIVERS.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITH MULTIPLE STAFF ON DOCK SIDE.
ALRIGHT, I'LL FINISH, UH, OUR REPORT REAL QUICK.
JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT THIS TEAM DID MORE OVER THE FOURTH, AND WHEN I SAY THIS TEAM, I INCLUDE MARINE PATROL, MARINE SAFETY.
THEY ARE VERY, VERY MUCH OUR PARTNERS IN EVERYTHING WE DO.
UH, THIS TEAM DID MORE OVER THE 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND THAN MOST CITIES WILL DO THROUGHOUT A MONTH.
UH, AND JUST SUPER, SUPER PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP.
UH, THIS TEAM, THE SUPERINTENDENTS, UH, THE UH, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUR MARINE SAFETY, THEY'RE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS AND THEY COME TO WORK AND DO THE JOB EVERY DAY.
AND TO PUSH THAT TO A POINT IS WE THROW THE BIGGEST BEACH PARTY EVERY 4TH OF JULY.
IT'S THE BIGGEST BEACH PARTY YOU WILL FIND ANYWHERE, AND IT'S CLEANED UP BY 1230 ON JULY 5TH.
THAT IS IMPRESSIVE TO SAY THE LEAST.
AND THAT'S DUE TO THE DEDICATION OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC SERVANTS AND PROFESSIONALS IN THIS ROOM.
THAT'S A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TOO.
WE DID HAVE A LOT OF VISIBILITY WITH THE INCIDENT ON JULY 3RD, AND THAT DID REFLECT ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CLEANUPS OF THAT AREA, AND THEN HOW INTIMATELY FAMILIAR OUR PEOPLE WERE WITH IT AND ALL THAT SURROUNDING AREA AND HOW CLEAN THAT WAS.
SO THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO ALL OF OUR MARINE BUREAU STAFF.
I WANTED TO ASK, WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST MEETING, YOU, YOU SAID, DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA HAVE BIG BANG ON THE BAY, STAFF WAS GOING TO BE WORKING AND ON, ON OVERTIME AND SO ON.
'CAUSE YOU EXPECTED STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE TO COME DOWN AND ENJOY.
UH, OUR VENUES DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD GOT OUT, UH, ON THAT, UH, BIG BANG ON THE BIG BANG ON THE BAY, UH, WAS NOT HAPPENING.
SO OUR JULY 3RD, UH, FLOW OF, OF VISITORS AND YES, WAS LESS.
UH, BUT THE GOOD PART ABOUT THAT IS WE WERE PREPARED.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD'VE MUCH RATHER HAVE BEEN PREPARED FOR A LOT THAN NOT PREPARED.
SO, UH, WE WERE OVER PREPARED AND IT WORKED OUT WELL.
SO, UH, IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT WEEKEND.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID HAVE AN UNFORTUNATE EVENT THAT THAT, UH, RESULTED IN A LOSS OF LIFE.
BUT AGAIN, UH, STAFF RESPONDED TO EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED THROUGH THE 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND, UH, PROFESSIONALLY AND, AND AS THEY SHOULD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THOSE THAT WERE SHORT? YES.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK MARINE SAFETY AND, AND THE LEFT GUARDS TOO.
AND THE POLICE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAS THE QUIETEST FOURTH THAT I RECALL.
WE WERE DOWN ABOUT EIGHT 30 ON DAY SHORE.
AND YOU FOLKS, THERE WERE ALREADY TENTS ALL THE WAY ALONG BAY SHORE, BUT YOU FOLKS WERE OUT THERE, THEY WERE SHOWING THE FIGHT AND LETTING 'EM KNOW YOU WERE THERE.
AND THEN WE WERE DOWN ON THE BEACH TO, UH, PROBABLY PARK AVENUE FOR THE, WE MARRIED AND THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF FIREWORKS.
WE'VE BEEN DOWN THERE BEFORE WHEN PEOPLE WOULD TRY TO SET OFF THEIR OWN FIREWORKS AND THEY REALLY WEREN'T.
PEOPLE WERE VERY QUIET, NICE FAMILIES, REALLY ENJOYING IT.
SO, UM, SOMEHOW YOU GOT THE WORD OUT AND YOU'RE ONLY SUPERVISED WELL.
THERE IS ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION FOR THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS GOING TO THE LIFEGUARD, UH, JUNIOR LIFEGUARD ON BAYSHORE, THEY DO NOT CLOSE THAT STREET UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK AND BETWEEN EIGHT AND NINE O'CLOCK A LOT OF THOSE KIDS ARE BICYCLING AND WALKING DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF THEIR CARS 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK THERE.
THEY'RE STILL RACING UP AND DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE USING IT AS A STREET.
AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF IT.
BUT HONESTLY, THAT STREET SHOULD BE CLOSED WHEN JUNIOR LIFEGUARDS ARE USING IT AT EIGHT O'CLOCK SO THAT THEY CAN SAFELY GET TO THE 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BICYCLING AND WALKING.
SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE I DO NOT THE MOTION.
MOVE THE APPROVE AND THEN WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION, SO I'LL GO AHEAD.
DID WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
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CALL FOR THE QUESTION.MOVING ON TO OUR COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS, STARTING OUT WITH OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AND I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING TODAY.
AND WE DID NOT HAVE OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE, UH, LACKING A QUORUM AND WE DID HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, REGARDING THE BLUFFS.
AND DO WE HAVE A REPORT ON THAT? UM, YES.
UM, COMMISSIONER LAM AND I CONSTITUTE THE MARINE BLUFF MAINTENANCE SUBCOMMITTEE, AD HOC SUB SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, UH, WITH THE HOPES OF GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, UM, THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE OF OUR BLUFFS, UH, AS, UH, CITY PROPERTY, UM, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE BLUFFS IN A, IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER.
AND OF THE APPRECIATION FOR COASTAL BLUFF HABITAT THAT THOSE BLUFFS ALONG OCEAN BOULEVARD REPRESENT FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
GET A, GAIN, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE CURRENT, UH, EXPECTATIONS OF THE MAINTENANCE AND HOW, UM, THE WORK IS PERFORMED.
SO IT'S MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, UH, UNDER OUR MARINE BUREAU MANAGEMENT'S, UM, UH, UH, ACTIVITIES RECENTLY IS THAT, UH, THERE IS A PURCHASE APPROVAL FOR AN UPDATE TO THE 2015 BLUFF PARK MAINTENANCE PLAN, WHICH IS THE CURRENT CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT FOR THE FOLKS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING AND CLEANING OUR COASTAL BLAST IN LONG BEACH.
2015 IS HOW IS AS FAR BACK AS THE CURRENT DOCUMENT EXISTS? UM, WE NOW HAVE A PURCHASE APPROVAL FOR, UH, TITLE INFLUENCE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ORIGINAL DOCUMENT AND TO UPDATE IT.
UM, THE CURRENT, UH, MAINTENANCE PLAN IS ONLY THOSE SECTIONS OF BLUFF PARK AND THE COASTAL BLUFF THAT WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, UH, RENOVATION.
UM, THE SHOP CRE AND THE PLANNER POCKETS AND THE REVEGETATION OF CERTAIN PARTS OF THOSE BLUFFS AS UNDER, UM, THE GUIDANCE OF A, A DOCUMENT FOR NATIVE PLANTS.
UM, FROM 2015, THAT DOCUMENT IS NOW GOING TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BLUFF PARK COASTAL BLUFF.
SO IT'LL GO FROM 36TH PLACE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
UM, MARINE BUREAU STAFF TELL ME THAT, UM, THEY HOPE TO HAVE THE WORK COMPLETED BY THE END OF, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2024, WHICH WOULD BE ROUGHLY THE END OF SEPTEMBER MM-HMM.
AND, UM, WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO TITLE, INFLUENCE AND THEIR EXPERTISE IN, UM, THAT THE MANAGEMENT OF SENSITIVE HABITAT IN LONG BEACH TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND AND MANAGE OUR COASTAL GLOVES.
UH, COMMISSIONER LAMB AND I HAVE REVIEWED CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE CURRENT, UH, MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, UH, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE OF, UM, AGAIN, MANAGING SENSITIVE HABITAT IN LONG BEACH.
THE COASTAL BLUFFS, UM, ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA'S, UH, COASTAL AREA.
THERE ARE VERY FEW COASTAL BLUFF HABITAT AREAS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REMAINING.
UM, I'M ALSO HAPPY TO NOTE THAT, UM, I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING OTHER PARTS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA'S COASTAL BLUFFS, UH, AND UNDER THE GUIDANCE AND CONTROL OF OTHER CITIES AND THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, HOW DO OTHER PARTS OF CALIFORNIA, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, UH, DEAL WITH MAINTAIN AND MANAGE AND, UM, CELEBRATE COASTAL HABITAT, COASTAL BLUFF HABITAT, AND WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE FUTURE IN LONG BEACH IN THE UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF COASTAL BLUFF.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR HER? AND SO I, UH, AGAIN, SKIP TO THE DOING THE MOTION AGAIN.
GENERAL PUBLIC ON THAT, BUT WE'LL GET THAT, THE MOTION AND WE'LL DO THAT.
UM, SO LET'S GO WITH A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE COMMITTEE REPORTS.
AND THEN ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON ANY OF THOSE COMMITTEE REPORTS? SO WE'LL GO FORWARD ON, UM, ALL IN FAVOR A OPPOSED AYE.
MOVING ON, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW, UH, THE, UH, MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION'S REGULAR MEETING
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TIME AND DATE THAT COMES BACK FROM OUR BYLAWS IN THE MEETING SECTION.AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
UM, THERE HAD BEEN A SUGGESTION THAT WE DEVIATE FROM THE TIME OF TWO 30 AND THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION IN OUR PACKETS ABOUT, UM, WHEN WE'VE HAD EVENING, EVENING MEETINGS HAVE BEEN BY EXCEPTION WHEN THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF REPORTING, UM, THAT WOULD CALL FOR THAT.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL STAFF INPUT TO THAT? UH, ALL I WOULD ADD FOR THE MOMENT IS THAT ARTICLE SIX S SECTION ONE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE COMMISSION SHALL BE HELD ON THE SECOND THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 1430 HOURS IN LONG BEACH, UNLESS OTHERWISE SCHEDULED BY THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THE COMMISSION WILL DESIGNATE THE PLACE OF THE MEETING MONTHLY MEETINGS.
SO IT'S REALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION AS A BODY.
UM, I WOULD ADVISE THE COMMISSION THAT OF THE 30 PLUS COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, ONLY FIVE HAVE A TIME BLOCK OF MEETING THAT IS OUTSIDE OPERATIONAL HOURS OF THE CITY, UH, CITY STAFF.
AND, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE STAY WITHIN OPERATIONAL HOURS OF CITY STAFF, THEREBY MAKING IT EASIER FOR US TO BRING CITY STAFF TO YOU TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD, I MEAN, WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT, AND I THINK, UH, THIS COMMISSION TAKES IT VERY SERIOUS, AS AT TIMES WE WILL HAVE AN EVENING, UH, UH, AND A DISCUSSION WITH, WITH OUR COMMISSIONERS, UH, SO WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SHOW UP, UM, AND NOT DURING, UH, A WORKDAY.
SO, UH, UM, THAT'LL BE I THINK A DISCUSSION AS THE, THE BOARD AS A WHOLE WHEN SOMETHING COMES TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE ONLY NEED 72 HOURS NOTICE, SO WE ONLY NEED 72 HOURS NOTICE IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WE CAN ALLOW TO DO THAT.
BUT DO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EXPLORED SOME OTHER VENUES, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS MEETING, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, UM, TO WHERE THE SURFING HAD BEEN.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE VENUES FOR MEETINGS AS THEY APPLY TO WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.
UM, I ALSO DID A SURVEY MYSELF.
YOU CAN EASILY GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WEBSITE ALL OUT THERE.
AND, UM, I, MY LIST HAD MORE THAN, LESS THAN MORE THAN FIVE OUTSIDE OF CITY STAFF OPERATIONAL HOURS.
I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU MIGHT, IF YOU, I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY RESEARCH.
I WAS STRUCK BY THE NUMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT DID MEET LATER IN THE DAY, IF NOT OUTSIDE OF OPERATIONAL HOURS STAFF CERTAINLY, UM, LATER IN THE DAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A START TIME OF, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FOUR 30, FOR EXAMPLE.
I DIDN'T COUNT THE ONES THAT START AT FOUR.
BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THE, THE ONES THAT I, I SAW AFTER 5:00 PM OR LATER PLANNING COMMISSION, CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION, YOUTH AND FAMILIES COMMISSION, EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS AND VETERANS AND AFFAIRS.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE FOR OUR, UM, COMMISSION AS WELL FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IT'S THAT, UH, THIS COMMISSION IS COMPRISED OF NON-MEMBERS AND IT IS, UM, DIFFICULT TO, UM, OFTEN FIND VOLUNTEERS FROM THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE NOT JUST IN THIS COMMISSION, BUT ON OTHERS IN MY EXPERIENCE, UM, WHO ARE PREPARED TO TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY, UH, WHO ARE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY, A REGULAR WEEKDAY.
AND IN THE, JUST SAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON WITH THE HOPE THAT WE COULD LOOK TOWARD GETTING A FULLY, UH, STAFFED COMMISSION, THIS COMMISSION, AND THEN ALSO TO, UM, BE ABLE TO INVOLVE MORE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON A MORE ROUTINE BASIS.
NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR SUBJECTS THAT MIGHT BE OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ON AN ONGOING BASIS WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM HEARING MORE INFORMATION FROM CITY STAFF, FOR EXAMPLE, AND, UH, MARINE BUREAU.
SO THAT WAS THE, THE DRIVING MOTIVATION WITH THE HOPES OF GETTING MORE PARTICIPATION IN, UH, THIS COMMISSION AGAIN AND BEING ABLE TO BRING THE PUBLIC TO MEETINGS AND, UH, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.
UM, AND I WANT TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, I, I MYSELF HAVE BEEN
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GOING TO PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR 40 YEARS AND I REMEMBER TAKING A VACATION DAY OUT OF MY POULTRY 10 DAYS OF VACATION DAY TO GO TO, IN THAT CASE THAT I'M REMEMBERING A COASTAL COMMISSION HEARING.AND I AM SENSITIVE TO THE FACT IT'S A BURDEN ON STAFF TO MEET LATER IN THE DAY OR IN THE EVENING, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY PUBLIC MEETINGS IF PEOPLE WITH JOBS, WHICH IS MOST PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO THEM.
SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S TRICKY TO FIND THAT BALANCE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE FOR MOST PEOPLE TO GET TO A MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS MORE MIDDAY.
AND I GUESS MY OTHER POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT EVEN WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE A MEETING OF IMPORTANCE OR NOT IMPORTANCE OR WHO DECIDES THAT, BUT IT'S ABOUT CULTIVATING A CULTURE OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PEOPLE BEMOAN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T STEP UP AND VOLUNTEER OR VOTE OR DO ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WHERE YOU WANNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE ON RAMP SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE SMALL STEPS THAT THEN BUILD INTO BIGGER STEPS FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND MERELY COMING TO A MEETING IS ONE OF THOSE EASY TO DO ENTRYWAY STEPS.
SO I KNOW THERE'S NO EASY ANSWERS, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS.
UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT, UM, IN THE SENSE THAT, UM, GIVEN THE INFORMATION IN OUR BYLAWS AND THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSION WILL, AND I QUOTE FROM, UH, ARTICLE SIX SECTION ONE, THE LAST, UH, SENTENCE OF THAT PARAGRAPH, CALLS FOR THE COMMISSION WILL DESIGNATE THE PLACE OF THE MONTHLY MEETINGS.
IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPLORE OTHER PUBLIC PLACES WHERE THE MARIN ADVISORY COMMISSION COULD MEET THAT COULD THEN BE IN AN AREA THAT COULD INVOLVE MORE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? UM, THIS SPACE IS AVAILABLE TO US HERE IN THE, THE YACHT CLUB, AND I'M SURE WE'RE ALL VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE FACT THAT IT'S SUCH A, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND, UM, A SPECIAL ROOM.
ARE THERE OTHER PLACES THAT THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION COULD MEET OTHER THAN THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB? AND THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION THAT COULD BE RESOLVED NOW.
I'D BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, BROUGHT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING.
UM, ARE THERE OTHER PLACES WE CAN MEET Y YES.
UH, IT JUST, IT'S, THE REASON WE'RE ABLE TO MEET HERE IS BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF AN MOU AGREEMENT WITH THE LONG BEACH CHALK CLUB.
SO THIS IS ALWAYS RESERVED FOR US.
WE, WE HAVE, THIS IS, I WOULD CALL UNLESS THAT, UNLESS, UNLESS THERE ARE A RISK, BUT WE WORK WITH THEM.
AND SO I WOULD CALL THIS OUR HOME BASE FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY EXPLORE OTHER LOCATIONS AND LOOK AT OTHER LOCATIONS TO IF AVAILABLE.
AND THE SUITABLE SIZE AND A DA REQUIREMENTS, SOME CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE BRINGING US IN, BUT WE ARE IMPACTING THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMISSION AS IT IS THAT OUR AVERAGE AGE, I THINK IS A LITTLE OLDER BECAUSE WE'RE PEOPLE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO BE HERE AT A TWO 30 MEETING.
SO THIS MEETING, IT WAS REQUESTED WE COULD GO DOWN TO THE RAINBOW HARBOR CONFERENCE ROOM, UH, BUT WE COULDN'T UTILIZE OUR RAINBOW HARBOR CONFERENCE ROOM DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDANCE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE SIZE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND SO YES, WE CAN, WE CAN LOCATE SOME OTHER, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT'S JUST ALL ABOUT AVAILABILITY OF THOSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, WELL THE FAR THE FACT THAT WE BELONG TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND REC HAS MANY COMMUNITY MEETING SPACES.
THAT, THAT JUST KIND OF COME TO MIND RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY.
SO THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY AND WHERE IT KIND OF BECOMES IN-HOUSE AND THAT, THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE COMMISSION IS ARE YOU GUYS WILLING TO GO INLAND? UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT LOTS OF ROOM AT MY HOUSE.
PARKS AND REC ALL THE WAY, SO I CAN GET YOU GUYS TO DO A, A PARK SPACE REALLY QUICKLY.
I, I'M ALREADY THINKING OF CHAVEZ.
WE CAN THINK OF BIXBY, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO BE NEAR THE AREAS THAT WE'RE SERVING.
AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
SHORELINE YACHT CLUB WOULD BE ONE OF 'EM.
I, I WOULD, UH, MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR, UM, THE THIRD DISTRICT CITY COUNCIL OFFICE IS IN A BUILDING OWNED BY THE CITY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, COLORADO.
AND IT IS ALSO THE SPACE THAT HOSTS THE, UM, CONSERVATION.
AND IT'S A VERY LARGE BUILDING WITH A VERY LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM.
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WELL, IT HAS A LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A LOT OF CHAIRS AROUND IT.I SENT THE MEETING THERE TODAY.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE TO, UM, IT'S VERY COMPLEX, ACCOMMODATE, IT'S HARDER TO FIND THOSE PLACES.
AND I HAVE, AND ABSOLUTELY, YOUR COMMENTS WELL NOTED.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THIRD DISTRICT MEETINGS THERE WHERE THEY HAVE SET UP ENOUGH CHAIRS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT IT AND WHAT CAN BE DONE IN ORDER TO SPUR PUBLIC INTEREST IN ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS? SO THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO OVER THE, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, TAMELA AND I WILL WORK TO IDENTIFY A HANDFUL OF LOCATIONS AND THEN WE'LL BRING 'EM TO YOUR EXECUTIVE STAFF.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
AND WHAT WE'LL TRY TO IDENTIFY IS LOCATIONS THAT ARE PROXIMITY TO OUR WORKSPACES, BUT ALSO ALONG THE FULL SCOPE OF THAT WORKSPACE.
SO FROM SAN GABRIEL RIVER TO THE LA RIVER.
SO, WE'LL, WE WILL TRY TO FIND SOME, A NUMBER OF SPACES AND WE'LL BRING THOSE TO YOU.
WELL, AND WELL, THIS MAY HAVE THEIR HAND UP.
WELL, THE OTHER THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO IS JUST DECIDE, I DON'T KNOW, TWICE A YEAR, MAYBE A SPRING AND FALL MEETING.
WE'LL ALWAYS BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE OR AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO SET THAT UP.
AND, AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT IF WE, WHEREVER WE DO MEET, IF, IF IT'S DIFFERENT, LIKE, LIKE IF WE'RE ABLE TO MEET AT THE, AT THE, UM, THE THIRD DISTRICT HEADQUARTERS, WELL FRIENDS LAGUNA IN THAT AREA, WE SHOULD PUT THE WORD OUT TO FRIENDS LAG NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE'RE MEETING, UM, AT THIS IN THEIR, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC WHO MANAGED TO BE HERE AT TWO 30 ON A WEEKDAY?
AND SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO REVIEW IT AND DISCUSS IT.
MOVING ON TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND AND RECEIVE APPOINTED A HISTORICAL INTEREST PRESENTATION ON LONG BEACH'S IMPORTANCE TO SURFING HISTORY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
WELL, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D LIKE TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO COMMISSIONER CAGER TO INTRODUCE OUR, OUR GUEST.
I'M DELIGHTED TO INTRODUCE MICHAEL BLUM OF SEA CLOUDS, WHO'S BEEN A VERY ACTIVE IN, UH, DEVELOPING THE NOTION THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WAS IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORY OF SURFING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
SO HE'S HERE TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TOOK OUTREACH TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN LONG BEACH, AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MILLIE FLOOR OF THE LONG BEACH CHAPTER OF SURF RIDER FOUNDATION.
SHE IS THE CURRENT, UH, NEWSLETTER, UH, UH, UH, VOLUNTEER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, UH, CHAPTERS, UM, UH, NEWSLETTER YES.
AND ACTIVE VOLUNTEER WITH THE, UH, LONG BEACH CHAPTER OF SURF RIDER FOUNDATION, WHO MICHAEL COORDINATED WITH A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AS, UH, THIS IDEA WAS PERCOLATING AWAY.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TODAY.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE FACT THAT THE SURF RIDER FOUNDATION HAS DEFINITELY MADE A COMMITMENT TO THIS IMPORTANT ACHIEVEMENT.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHAEL AND, UH, LET HIM SHARE THIS ACHIEVEMENT WITH THIS GROUP.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INVITATION TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.
UM, A A REAL PLEASURE TO TELL YOU ABOUT A PROJECT THAT WE, THAT WE AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, COLLABORATORS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED WITHIN THE MARINE BUREAU'S GEOGRAPHY.
AND WE THINK MARKS AN INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT MOMENT IN LONG BEACH'S HISTORY.
SO AS, AS WAS INTRODUCED, THIS IS GOING TO BE A SURFING PROJECT, UM, BUT IT IS, IT CALLS FORTH QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE AS A COMMUNITY MIGHT REFLECT ON OUR HISTORY AND HOW THAT HISTORY IS KIND OF ENCODED INTO A CIVIC IDENTITY.
WE, AS A HISTORIC, AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PRACTICE, ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF PLACES FROM WHICH THOSE QUESTIONS ARISE.
AND WE'RE PART OF KIND OF A GROWING CONVERSATION AND A GROWING BODY OF WORK THAT ADDRESSES THESE QUESTIONS REALLY IN, IN RECREATIONAL LANDSCAPES AND SEASCAPES IN PLACES LIKE
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YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK.AND RELATED TO THE, THE I IMPORT IT IS IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO ROCK CLIMBING IN SANTA MONICA.
AND THIS IS BAY STREET BEACH AND ITS IMPORTANCE AS THE ONLY REC, UM, LEISURE AND RECREATION YOUTH SITE FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN ANGELINOS DURING THE JIM CROW ERA.
AND IN PLACES LIKE MALIBU, THE ICONIC SURFING BREAK FOR ITS IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE GROWTH IN HISTORY OF THE SPORT.
AND SO IT'S WITH THAT CONTEXT AND IT'S WITH THAT INTEREST THAT ACTUALLY PRE PANDEMIC, WE WERE INVITED TO COME TO LONG BEACH AND ENGAGE WITH, UM, THE SURF RIDER CHAPTER THERE.
UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, AT THIS MOMENT, WE NOT ONLY THANK MILLI FOR COMING, BUT ALSO A SURF WRITER CHAPTER VOLUNTEER, BRYCE LACEY WILSON HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE LONG BEACH GRADUATE, DID HIS WORK ON THE HISTORY OF SURFING HERE IN LONG BEACH.
AND SO SOMEONE WITH THAT KIND OF KNOWLEDGE AND FOCUS AND COMMUNITY AND, AND CONNECTION TO PLACE WAS AN IMPORTANT AND THOUGHTFUL AND JUST A REALLY WONDERFUL WAY TO BEGIN THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHAT WOULD THIS HISTORY LOOK LIKE? WHAT WAS THE SURFING HISTORY OF LONG BEACH AND HOW COULD WE TELL THAT STORY, DEVELOP IT IN A STRUCTURED FORMAT? AND SO WHILE WE COULD POINT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, KIND OF SPOTS ALONG THE MAP ABOUT WHERE SURFING OCCURRED AND ALSO OCCURS TODAY, WE CHOSE OUR FOCUS KIND OF IN THIS WEST END AREA AND IN PARTICULAR, UM, IN LOOKING AT THAT SAME PICTURE, SAME, UM, THAT SAME AREA OVERHEAD.
WE WANTED TO ROLL BACK THE CLOCK A BIT AND NOT LOOK AT WHAT SURFING AND WHAT THE WEST END LOOKS LIKE TODAY FOR REALLY WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, A LITTLE FEMALE IN THE LATE 1920S.
AND IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS AREA RIGHT IN HERE.
NOW, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A MOMENT.
BUT TO SET THE STAGE, WHAT WAS GOING ON IN LONG BEACH AT THE TIME AND REALLY THROUGH MOST OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WAS A VERY INTERESTING KIND OF CONTRAST AND CONFLICT IN SOME WAYS.
ON ONE HAND, BEACH COMMUNITIES LED BY KENNY, LED BY HUNTINGTON, LED BY OTHERS, WERE TRYING TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THE COAST, TO DRAW PEOPLE FROM INLAND AND ALSO FROM OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA.
IN FACT, LONG BEACH WAS FOR A LONG TIME KNOWN AS THE IOWA OF THE WEST COAST, COME HERE, COME TO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE GOOD AIR, ENJOY THE GOOD WEATHER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE, YOU KNOW, LEAVING GRAND ERA.
WERE, WERE NOT USED TO THE OCEAN, WERE NOT USED TO THE STRENGTH OF THE OCEAN, WE'RE NOT USED TO THE TEMPERATURE OF THE WATER.
AND IN FACT, MOST OF THEM COULDN'T SWIM.
AND SO HOW WOULD YOU NEGOTIATE THAT? HOW DO YOU BOTH DRAW PEOPLE TO A PLACE BUT ALSO DEMYSTIFY IT, MAKE IT FEEL SAFE, BUT ALSO PLAY UP? ITS EXOTIC NATURE.
AND SO THE ANSWER THAT SEVERAL COMMUNITIES, EACH COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SETTLED ON WAS WE WILL CREATE DIFFERENT KINDS OF ATTRACTIONS.
MOST OF THEM WERE GOING TO BE LANDSIDE, BUT WE'LL, I'LL SHOW IN A MINUTE, I'LL SHOW IN A FEW MINUTES THAT SURFING KIND OF PLAYED A PART IN THE SELLING OF WHAT A COAST, WHAT THE COAST COULD LOOK LIKE.
SO IT WAS ATTRACTION BASED, IT WAS NOVELTY BASED.
IF, IF TODAY'S SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HAS, WELL, YOU CAN GO TO LEGOLAND AND YOU COULD GO TO DISNEYLAND AND YOU COULD GO TO UNIVERSAL STUDIOS.
THIS WAS VERY MUCH OF THE SAME MINDSET.
YOU COULD COME TO LONG BEACH AND YOU CAN COME TO THE RAVEN PIER, THE 3,800 FOOT PEDESTRIAN AND DRIVING PIER, SEE NOWHERE ELSE, AND BUILD NOWHERE RAILS, RIGHT? YOU CAN COME ALONG THE PACIFIC ELECTRIC RAIL AND THEN WALK ALONG THE BEACH, BUT NOT HAVE TO BE IN THE WATER.
YOU CAN BE OVER THE WATER AND NOT HAVE TO BE IN THE RAINBOW PIER OPENED IN 1931.
AND SO KIND OF, OF THAT PERIOD I'LL BE DESCRIBING, UM, IN THE SURFING CONTEXT, IN THE SURFING CONTEXT, AND IMPORTANTLY, KIND OF FOR SOME OF THE, FOR, UM, THE EVENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE 1938 NATIONAL SURFING AND PADDLEBOARD CHAMPIONSHIPS.
THE EAST, THE WEST END OF THE RAINBOW PIER WAS ALSO ADJOINED BY, I MEAN A MUNICIPAL FISHING PIER.
SO THIS IS SOMETIMES KNOWN AS THE PINE AVENUE PIER LATER REBUILT AS THE MUNICIPAL PIER.
AND SO THERE WAS THAT STRUCTURE AS WELL.
AGAIN, BEING ABLE TO BE IN A PLACE, BUT NOT HAVING TO FEEL THREATENED OR TERRIFIED BY ACTUALLY BEING IN THE WATER ON.
AND ANOTHER, THIS DOESN'T HAVE A DATE ON IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN DATE IT BY THE BUILDING HERE.
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THIRTIES, MID FORTIES OR SO.ANYWAYS, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PIER.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PIER AND THIS IS THE AUDITORIUM PIER.
AND THEN LOOKING INTO THE PAL FOR EAST PENINSULA IN THE BACKGROUNDS.
WEST OF THE RAINBOW PIER WAS THE PIKE AMUSEMENT ZONE, A COLLECTION OF AMUSEMENTS RIDES.
THERE WAS A BALLROOM THERE, THERE WAS A, UM, A BATHHOUSE THERE AS WELL.
AGAIN, VISITOR SERVING ATTRACTION, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE SAME KIND THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN OTHER PLACES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
THIS WAS NOT A SET OF IDEAS THAT WAS NEW OR UNIQUE TO LONG BEACH.
THIS IS THE CAROUSEL AT PACIFIC OCEAN PARK IN VENICE.
THIS IS THE BATHHOUSE IN REDONDO BEACH.
LONG BEACH HAD A BATHHOUSE AS WELL.
AND THIS IS THE AMUSEMENT PIER IN SANTA MONICA.
AGAIN, AMUSEMENT HERE AT SANTA MONICA PACIFIC OCEAN PARK AND HERE IN LONG BEACH.
AND SO INTO THIS MIX, SURFING WAS INJECTED AS BOTH, UH, UH, AN ACTIVITY OF REPRESENTING SOME AMOUNT OF EXOTICISM, BUT ALSO KIND OF WITH A DAREDEVIL BEND TO IT AS WELL.
THESE WERE ENTERTAINERS, THESE WERE DAREDEVILS OUT IN THE WATER.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE FATHER OF A FATHER OF HAWAIIAN SURFING.
THIS IS HAN MOKU IN SANTARE, UM, IN THE PROB I THINK THE LATE 1920S.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THIS LOCATION WITH THE RAINBOW PIER HERE THAT WE SHOWED, AND THE PIKE AMUSEMENT ZONE WAS THE ONLY PLACE THAT SURFING WAS HAPPENING IN THIS, IN THE WEST END OF LONG BEACH.
THIS IS THE BREAK THAT'S KNOWN AS FLOOD CONTROL, UH, COMING WITH SANDBARS FORM FROM THE, UM, FROM SEDIMENT STUFF, FEMALE OF THE LA RIVER.
FLOOD CONTROL WAS VERY WELL KNOWN, AND THE AREA HERE WAS MORE SPECTATOR DRIVEN, BUT ALSO COULD SOMETIMES GET SOME VERY GOOD SURF, BUT SURFING.
BUT THIS WAS ALSO NOT AN AREA THAT, BUT SURFING CONTESTS WERE ALSO COMING TO THEIR FOR IN THIS AIR IN THIS PERIOD AS WELL.
LONG BEACH WAS NOT THE HOST OF THE FIRST SURFING CONTEST IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS A PHOTO FROM THAT CONTEST.
THIS IS THE 1928 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SURF RIDING CHAMPIONSHIPS HELD IN CORONA DEL MAR IN 1928.
BUT LET'S RETURN TO THIS SITE AGAIN.
THIS, THIS NARROW LANE IN BETWEEN THE MUNICIPAL APPEAR ON ONE END AND THE PIKE ON THE OTHER THERE.
AND IT'S IN THAT, THAT WE WANTED TO EXAMINE AND NARRATE THE STORY OF THE 1938 NATIONAL SURFING AND PADDLEBOARD CHAMPIONSHIPS.
AS I SAID, THIS CONNECTION NOT ONLY TO SURFING HISTORY, BUT ALSO TO CIVIC HISTORY.
AND THIS IDEA OF AMUSEMENT TRACTION AND AND ENTERTAINMENT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UM, CONSCIOUSLY DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CITY.
THE CONTEST WAS, UM, HOSTED AND PRODUCED BY, BOTH BY THE LONG BEACH AMUSEMENT LEAGUE, BUT ALSO BY THE JUNIOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS WELL.
TWO KINDS OF WAVE RIDING TOOK PLACE.
PADDLE BOARDING, WHICH WE NOW MORE CLOSELY ASSOCIATE WITH LIFESAVING KIND OF BIG LONG BOARDS.
PEOPLE DON'T, CAN STAND UP, BUT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.
THEY USUALLY COMPLETE A RACE COURSE.
AND THEN SURFING, WHICH HAS, WHICH HAD A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES FOR EARLY CONTESTS LIKE THIS, BUT MOSTLY IT WAS LENGTH OF RIDE AND HEIGHT OF LIFE.
AND THE HEIGHT OF THE LENGTH THAT WAS WRITTEN, 100 COMPETITORS, BUT OVER 50,000, 50,000, UM, SPECTATORS.
AND THEY COMPLETELY LINED, COMPLETELY LINED BOTH OF THE PI, THE, THE, UM, ONE OF THE PIERS AT THE PIKE IN SMITH ZONE, BUT ALSO THAT MUNICIPAL PERIOD THAT I WAS, THAT I SHOWED IN PREVIOUS PHOTOS.
WHY TWO DAYS? WELL, THE WAVES WERE HORRIBLE
SO IMAGINE BUILDING THIS UP, ONE OF THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, THE BIG ONE OF THE BIG FIRST, ONE OF THE FIRST BIG SURFING CONTESTS IN THIS AREA.
BUT AS ANYONE WHO MIGHT WANT TO, WHO MIGHT NEED TO RELY ON GOOD WAVES FOR SURFING CONTESTS, FAVORABLE WINDS FOR REGATTAS, OR JUST GOOD WEATHER FOR AN OUTDOOR BARBECUE, LET ME READ TO YOU A BIT OF A QUOTE.
AND SO THIS WAS FROM THE NEWS REPORT THE DAY AFTER THE PADDLEBOARD DIVISION FLAT
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AS A TABLETOPFATHER NEPTUNE HAD SET HIS MIND AGAINST THE LONG HERALDED SURF RIDING EVENTS,
SO SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR YOU.
AND SO WHAT ORGANIZERS DID WAS THEY, THEY SIMPLY RESCHEDULED THE SURFING DIVISIONS FOR LATER IN THE YEAR.
AND, AND THOSE WERE HELD, UM, IN THIS SUMMER, DECEMBER, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, SPECTATORSHIP WAS ACTUALLY HIGHER FOR THE SURFING EVENTS.
SO EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT KNOWING AND DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE PADDLEBOARDING, ACTUALLY MORE PEOPLE CAME BACK OUT MORE THAN A MONTH LATER TO WATCH THE SURFING COMPETITIONS.
SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE, A PHOTO FROM THE CONTEST ITSELF.
HERE YOU SEE PADDLEBOARDS OF THE DAY MORE THAN 12 FEET HIGH, SOME OF THEM HOLLOW, SOME OF THEM SOLID, UM, BUT A REAL BEAR TO MOVE AROUND.
AND THIS WAS KIND OF A COMMON POSE AS PADDLE BOARDERS OR SERVERS, UH, WOULD STAND, UM, FOR PHOTOGRAPHS OR PERSON IN FRONT KIND, WRAPPING, TRYING AND WRAP THEIR ARMS AROUND BACK.
SO ONCE AGAIN, AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE CONTEST SITE HIKE OVER HERE TO THE WEST, RAINBOW HERE IN THE MUNICIPAL, APPEAR IN THE CENTER.
UM, THIS IS THE OCEAN CENTER BUILDING FOR REFERENCE.
SO THIS IS 1928, AND THIS IS 2001.
SO YOU CAN SEE BOTH THE LAND RECLAMATION AND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT TOOK PLACE BETWEEN THAT TIME.
AND, AND THIS WAS 2001, A SITE THAT CLEARLY HAS SURFACE THAT NO LONGER EXISTS IN A SITE THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.
SO THAT WILL HAVE SOME CONSEQUENCES FOR THE PROJECT THAT WE ACTUALLY DID, UH, SELECTED.
THIS IS AN APPROXIMATE OVERLAY OF THAT CONTEST ZONE.
REMEMBER THAT KIND OF THE, THE LANE OF THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH OVER IMPOSED INTO THE SECOND.
AND THIS FORMS THE BASIS OF THE NOMINATED AREA THAT WE CONSIDERED, UM, FOR OUR PROJECT.
SO A COUPLE PEOPLE TO, OF, OF THE PERIOD TO NOTE, UM, AND I'M GOING TO CALL OUT THE TWO WINNERS IN THE PADDLE BOARD DIVISIONS.
P PETERSON WAS A FIVE TIME WINNER OF THIS, OF THIS, OF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PACIFIC, UH, THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PACIFIC SURF RIDING CHAMPIONSHIPS, THAT FIRST CONTEST THAT I MENTIONED, UM, WELL KNOWN LIFEGUARD AND, UH, AND WHO SURFED AND WAS A, A, UH, A SEVERAL TIME, UM, WORLD CHAMPION IN TANDEM SURFING LATER IN, UM, WELL INTO HIS, WELL INTO HIS FIFTIES AND SIXTIES.
THE SECOND PERSON, MARY ANN, MARY ANN HAWKINS, UM, WAS I THINK A A AN UNDER REPORTED AND JUST A REALLY IMPORTANT FIGURE IN EARLY SURFING, BOTH FOR HER ACHIEVEMENTS, BUT ALSO FOR THE KIND OF SURFER SHE WAS.
SHE WAS A CHAMPION PADDLE BOARDER.
SHE WAS A CHAMPION SWIMMER DIVER, AND ALSO A HOLLYWOOD STUNT HOLE.
VERY MUCH KIND OF THAT COMPLETE, THAT COMPLETE HAD THE COMPLETE COMFORT ACROSS SEVERAL DISCIPLINES, UM, NOT RELATED TO BOTH SURFING PADDLEBOARDING, BUT OTHER FORMS OF WATER SPORTS.
SO AS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PRACTICE, I GUESS IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT WE CHOSE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT TO TELL THIS STORY.
WE CHOSE THE CALIFORNIA POINTS OF HISTORICAL INTEREST.
UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM RUN BY THE STATE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT WITHIN THE SAME, UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AS OTHER REGISTRATION PROGRAMS THAT YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, WHETHER IT'S THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORICAL PLACES, CALIFORNIA STATE LANDMARKS, OR LANDMARKS AND DESIGNATIONS MADE BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, KIND OF ALL WITHIN THE SAME FAMILY.
THESE ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR A POINT OF HISTORICAL INTEREST.
THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM.
WE CHOSE THIS ONE FIRST, LAST, OR MOST SIGNIFICANT OF ITS TYPE WITHIN A REGION.
THE POINTS OF HISTORICAL INTERESTS DO HAVE, UM, COULD HAVE SOME LAND USE EFFECTS.
BUT BECAUSE THIS SITE NO LONGER EXISTS, BECAUSE IT NO LONGER EXPRESSES ANY INTEGRITY OF ITS ORIGINAL HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, THERE REALLY ARE NO LAND USE CONSEQUENCES.
EVERY WAY IN WHICH VISITORS CAN VISIT THIS SITE CAN EXPERIENCE THIS SITE.
AND EVERY WAY IN WHICH THE SITE IS CURRENTLY MANAGED IS PRESERVED WITHIN THIS DESIGNATION.
UM, AND ALSO AS A, AS A CONDITION OF, UH, NOMINATION WITHIN THIS PROGRAM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT IS TO SAY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH NEEDED TO ENDORSE THE PROJECT, AND THEY DID.
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SO WE'VE, AS I SAID, THESE CONVERSATIONS FIRST STARTED PRE PANDEMIC, AND MILLIE CAN ATTEST THAT THEY WERE, THEY TOOK A WHILE TO GET GOING AND KIND OF, WE, WE CERTAINLY NEEDED TO KIND OF JUMP IN WITH A LOT OF ENERGY AND THEN COOL DOWN ONCE THE PANDEMIC HIT, AND THEN WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO START UP AGAIN.WE SUBMITTED THE NOMINATION IN 2023, AND IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THE SITE OF THE 1938 NATIONAL PADDLEBOARD, NATIONAL SURFING AND PADDLEBOARD CHAMPIONSHIPS WAS RECOGNIZED AS DESIGNATED AS A CALIFORNIA POINT OF HISTORICAL INTEREST.
SO THAT PHASE OF THE PROJECT IS NOW COMPLETE.
WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW WAS KIND OF THAT GAP IN TIME.
I SHOWED A COUPLE OF OVERHEADS FROM KIND OF THE EARLY TWENTIES, AND THEY KIND OF JUMPED ALL THE WAY TO 2001.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO, TO TELL, TO ADD TO THE STORY OF THE LOSS OF SURFING IN LONG BEACH.
I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH, AND EVERYONE RECOGNIZES THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THE LONG BEACH BREAKWATER, UM, WAS A CAUSATIVE FACTOR FOR THE LOSS OF SURFING IN THIS WEST END OF LONG BEACH.
BUT SURFING DEPENDS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS KIND OF COMING TOGETHER IN, IN, IN UNIQUE AND RARE WAYS FOR SURFING TO ACTUALLY BE POSSIBLE.
SO WHAT THE LONG BEACH BREAKWATER DID WAS IT, IT PREVENTED WAVE ENERGY FROM KIND OF COMING FROM THE OPEN SEA INTO THIS AREA, BUT WHAT WAS ALSO HAPPENING AT THE TIME WAS THAT SAND WAS BEGINNING TO TRAVEL PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE PIKE, AND PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE PIER.
SO THESE STRUCTURES WERE ALSO LED TO THE, THEY THEMSELVES LED TO THE DEMISE OF SURFING IN THIS LOCALIZED AREA.
WHAT ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO IT WAS THE CHANNELIZATION OF THE, OF THE ELLIOT RIVER, WHICH CHANGED THE SEDIMENT FLOWS OUT OF THE RIVER, AND THEN THESE FURTHER SLURRED THE SEDIMENTS DOWN.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THIS SAND TRAPPING THAT WAS, THAT WOULD OCCUR, THAT BEGAN TO OCCUR AS EARLY AS 47 FOR THE RESULTS OF THE TRAPPING.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT HERE, PIKE, RAINBOW PIER, AND THEN THIS IS THAT ZONE IN THE MIDDLE.
THESE ARE THE REMNANTS OF THE PIPE HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN, WITHIN WHAT WAS, UM, FORMALLY THE, THE RAINBOW HERE, HERE AT THE LEFT.
AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS MORE OR LESS COMPLETE.
RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS MID SEVENTIES.
AS I SAID, THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT IS NOW BEING COMPLETED.
WHERE DO WE STAND NOW? AND WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMISSION TO ENGAGE IN, IN COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT A DESIGNATION MIGHT LOOK LIKE? SO WE HAVE HAD, UM, ALONG THE COURSE OF THE NOMINATION, SEVERAL PARTIES THAT ENDED UP ENDORSING THE PROJECT AS A, AS A NOMINATION OR FOR DESIGNATION SAID, HEY, IF YOU GET IT, IF IT IS KIND OF DESIGNATED, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION AND EXPLORE IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO PLACE A MARKER OR SOME KIND OF PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL, AT LEAST THE PHYSICAL, SOMETHING TO RECOGNIZE THIS HISTORY, BOTH FOR MEMBERS OF THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WHAT THEY, WHAT THIS AREA USED TO LOOK LIKE.
AND SO WE'VE HAD THE GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UM, WHAT AT BEGINNING CONVERSATION, JUST THE FIRST HINT OF WHAT THAT IDEA, WHAT THOSE SET OF IDEAS WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE, WHAT IT MIGHT ALL LOOK LIKE WITH, UM, THIS IS THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY PLANNING WHO HELP FACILITATE THE, OUR NOMINATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
SO WHAT WE'VE, UM, BEEN DELIGHTED TO BE ASKED TO DO IS TO CREATE A VIS, IS TO DEVELOP A VISUAL LIBRARY OF THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PHYSICAL SOMETHINGS THAT OTHER PE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES USE TO MARK IMPORTANT PLACES AND IMPORTANT EVENTS.
AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY THINKING ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT BUCKETS.
THERE'S BUCKETS RELATED TO SIGNAGE.
OOPS, ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UM, THERE ARE, THERE'S A BUCKET FOR PLAQUES, INTERPRETIVE PANELS, SOMETIMES SIGNS RELATED TO LARGER MARKERS.
SO THAT SIGN THAT I SHOWED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE IS PART OF THIS LARGER MARKER IN PUBLIC ART.
THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR ELECTRONIC OR ONLINE CONTENT THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO ACTUALLY NEEDING TO BE AT THIS SITE, OF COURSE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO COME UP WITH IDENTIFY EXAMPLES AND TYPES OF THOSE.
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AND HAD THE PLEASURE EARLIER TODAY TO KIND OF TOUR THAT SHADED AREA THAT I WAS SHOWING IN A PREVIOUS SLIDE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE SOME POSSIBLE LOCATIONS THAT IF WE WERE TO PUT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE WHERE MIGHT THAT SOMETHING BE, AND IF NOT, IDENTIFY KIND OF AN OBVIOUS PLACE AT LEAST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.HOW MUCH TRAFFIC, HOW MUCH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC MIGHT THERE NEED TO BE TO QUALIFY AS A PLACE, UM, THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT A MARKER.
UM, DOES IT EVEN NEED TO BE RELATED TO THE SITE AT ALL, RIGHT? IN A, IN A, COULD WE, COULD WE, OR SHOULD WE EXPLORE IDEAS AROUND THIS SITE NO LONGER EXISTS, OR ARE WE STILL, IS IT STILL A REQUIREMENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN THAT SHADED AREA AT ALL? OR COULD IT BE IN SOME LARGER CONGREGATING AREA WITH A KIND OF AN ARROW POINTING TO IF YOU GO OVER HERE OR IF YOU LOOK OVER THERE, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT, HOW COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS EMERGE, WHERE THEY END UP.
AND WE ARE JUST AS A GROUP, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT AND, AND, AND BE OF SERVICE AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS TAKE PLACE.
AND YOU KNOW, I, UH, AS SOMEONE WHO'S PUT ON SURFING CONTESTS MYSELF, IT IS, IT WAS REALLY SPECIAL TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 60, YOU KNOW, 50 TO 60,000 VISITORS COMING OUT, YOU KNOW, A REAL SUCCESS FOR THE AMUSEMENT LEAGUE, FOR THE JUNIOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND I THINK A REAL, UM, A REAL INSIGHT INTO HOW POPULAR, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF EVENT WAS AT THE TIME.
UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE TODAY.
I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALSO, I WELCOME YOUR DIRECTION ON HOW YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING CAN BEST SERVE THE IDEAS AND, AND INTERESTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE SITE IN, IN THIS PROJECT.
OH, A WONDERFUL LINKAGE OF THE TROPHY, OF COURSE, FOR THE SURFING CHAMPIONSHIP WAS THE RICHARD LOINS TROPHY.
AND, UH, HE WAS THE VISIONARY BEHIND OUR MARINA.
HE'S WHY WE'RE SITTING HERE TODAY AND WAS THE FIRST COMMODORE OF THE YACHT CLUB WE'RE SITTING IN.
SO RICHARD LOINS UNDOUBTEDLY IS LOOKING AT US RIGHT NOW THINKING WHAT, WHAT WONDERFUL THING WE'LL DO TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONTEST THAT TOOK PLACE.
AND I THINK WE REALLY WANT SOME INPUT ON THAT.
UM, SOME COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS.
UM, IT'S KIND OF APPROPRIATE, AND IT WAS MENTIONED BY, UH, I THINK EARLIER IT WAS, IT WAS MENTIONED BY COREY, BUT, UM, WE HAD A SOUTH SWELL COME IN THIS WEEKEND AND THERE WAS, THERE WERE PEOPLE BODY SURFING OUT IN, AT, AT THE PENINSULA, AND WE STOPPED TO LOOK, I I LIVED ON THE PENINSULA YEARS AGO, AND WE USED TO BODY SURF.
WE LOOKED FORWARD TO WHEN THOSE SOUTH SWELLS WOULD COME IN BETWEEN THE, THE BREAKWATER AND, AND THE JETTY.
AND THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND, AND IT WAS, PEOPLE WERE JUST GOING LIKE, WOW, LOOK AT THE WAVES.
AND IT WAS A REMINDER OF THIS ERA BEFORE WE HAD THE BREAKWATER.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, UM, THERE'S NOT SURPRISINGLY THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ENGAGE IN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE, WHAT WE'VE LOST WITH THE LOSS OF SURFING, BUT IT'S ALSO NOW THAT RARITY THAT WHEN IT OCCURS, IT BECOMES SUCH A SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, SUCH A SPECIAL EVENT, SUCH A SPECIAL VISUAL THAT YOU, YOU CAN NO LONGER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, RIGHT? EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS, IT'S SPECIAL.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT LOSS.
WELL, WHAT WAS FUN TO HEAR WAS THE SOUND.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROAR OF YOUR TUMBLERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE MISS HERE IN LONG BEACH.
MY MOM WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE HERE IN THE 1930S.
MY DAD WAS RAISED IN CATALINA, MY MOM WAS RAISED ON THE PENINSULA AND THE STORIES, THEY WOULD SAY, I'M GONNA FIND YOU PICTURES.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TONS OF PICTURES OF MY UNCLE WAS A LIFEGUARD, HIS FATHER WAS A LIFEGUARD.
I MEAN, JUST, I GET GOOSEBUMPS.
UM, AND, AND WE WILL HAVE TO TALK BECAUSE, UH, I, I THINK IF IT'S GONNA BE FUNDING FROM PRIVATE SECTORS AND STUFF, I THINK I CAN CONNECT YOU WITH A FEW PEOPLE THAT CAN, UH, DEFINITELY GET SOME FUNDING.
MY GRANDKIDS AREN'T GONNA KNOW IT UNLESS THEY GO THROUGH ALL MY ARCHIVES AND MY PARENTS STUFF.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT THEY DON'T NEED IT OR THEY WON'T FOCUS ON IT.
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S OUR HISTORY.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW THE MISS UNI WAS IT MISS UNIVERSE WAS DONE HERE BACK IN THE, IN, I MEAN, THIS WAS HUGE.
THIS WAS THE PLACE TO BE FOR THE STARS, UM, WAS LONG BEACH.
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YOU SAYING THAT TOO.YOU KNOW, SOME OF, WE DIDN'T, I WANNA GET, ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT WE'RE KIND OF NOODLING AROUND WITH IS KIND OF A STORY CORE, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF CAPTURE THOSE, THOSE STORIES AND THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH SO MANY FAMILIES HERE IN LONG BEACH THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG.
THEY DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO BEGIN TO PULL THAT OUT AND MAKE IT MORE OH YEAH.
TO THE PUBLIC AND, AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT IT'S ARCHIVED FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO USE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
DID, DID YOU WALK ALONG RAINBOW HARBOR TODAY AND AS PART OF YOUR WALK? WELL, THERE'S THE TRANSPAC WALK THERE YES.
WHICH HAS EACH OF THE MONUMENTS TO THE DECADES MM-HMM.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THANK MICHAEL FOR COMING TODAY.
UM, IT'S A HUGE ACHIEVEMENT FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH HAS NO OBLIGATION TO MOVE AHEAD IN ANY KIND OF FORMAL MANNER WITH RESPECT TO THE, THIS HISTORIC MOMENT TO, UH, UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, UM, AWARD BY THE, UH, STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, AND, UM, KNOWING THAT, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE LIAISON WITH MICHAEL AND C OF CLOUDS, UH, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, FORMALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THIS AND MOVING AHEAD AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, GIVEN MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARINE BUREAU'S PURVIEW OF THIS HISTORIC SITE, UM, THIS IS A GEOGRAPHIC INTEREST WHICH ENCOMPASSES THIS HISTORIC SITE, UH, AND AN AREA THAT IS ALSO SUBJECT TO THE OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT, UH, OF THE MARINE BUREAU, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAC AND ITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, CAPACITY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I MAY, AND RECOMMEND THAT THE MAC CREATE AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE RELATED TO THIS POINT OF HISTORIC INTEREST PROJECT TO COORDINATE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TASKED WITH PROMOTING AND IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECT AND REQUEST INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROJECT, AND TO ASSIST AND ENGAGE AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND AWARENESS OF THIS ACHIEVEMENT.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION IF I MAY, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION, AND IF YOU'RE GONNA, I'D LIKE TO BE ON THAT BECAUSE, AND THE NEXT REQUEST WOULD BE TO, UH, UM, UH, CONFIRM ANY INTEREST ON THE PART OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS TO PARTICIPATE AND BECOME MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
I WOULD ALSO BE WILLING TO SUB TO, TO ACT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND WOULD INVITE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION TO PARTICIPATE.
COMMISSIONER, I HAVE YOU, SORRY, THERE'S A NOTE RIGHT THERE.
SO I, I, I MOVE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND THEN, UM, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSION WITH FIVE OF US COMMISSIONERS HERE, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND IF, UM, COMMISSIONER LAMB NEEDS TO MOVE, MOVE, IS THERE GONNA BE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I THINK I CAN VOTE IF I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS? ANYTHING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? WAIT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MICHAEL, ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY HERE IN LONG BEACH? SO, NO, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
WE COORDINATED WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY DURING THE PREPARATION OF THE NOMINATION TO ASK FOR, UM, SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPH TO SEE IF WE CAN USE SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
SO THAT WAS REALLY THE EXTENT OF OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
NOW THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO REDEFINE OUR ROLE TO SERVE THIS COMMISSION PLANNING DEPARTMENT SERVE SURF WRITER AND, AND ANYONE ELSE TO DEVELOP THE IDEAS AND DECISIONS AROUND THIS, AROUND THIS PROJECT.
BECAUSE THEY COULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH YOU ON THE, SHE'S COFFEE ON SECOND STREET.
ONE OF THE PADDLE BOARDS IS UP ON THE WALL INSIDE FROM THE 1920S.
SO TO REMIND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THE WHOLE OF AN INTENT OF MY HOPE, OF THE INTENT OF AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE TO REACH OUT TO OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY IN LONG BEACH.
AND WE CAN SIT AND HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT OTHER KINDS OF GROUPS COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS.
FROM ARTS, RIGHT? FROM THE ARTS OF BUREAU OF,
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UH, COUNCIL IN LONG BEACH, TO PLANNING DEPARTMENT, TO SURF RIDER FOUNDATION, OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS WHO MIGHT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS AS WELL.SO I'M TRYING TO BE AS BROAD AND INCLUSIVE IN THE NOTION OF WHAT A AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE MIGHT DO IN ORDER TO GET OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THIS, UM, ACHIEVEMENT.
SO, UM, ALL, ANY AND ALL IDEAS WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN A WAY THAT, UM, I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE A VERY LARGE TASK, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE COORDINATED WITH A LOT OF BRAINS.
WE GOT A SECOND COUPLE THINGS FROM STAFF.
ONE OF THEM IS A COMMENT FROM THE MANAGER, AND THEN CLARIFICATION THAT WE HAVE THE MOTION DOWN ACCURATELY.
UH, JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE QUORUM, SO WE WANT TO KIND OF WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT NOW.
SO WE CAN, WE DO HAVE A MOTION, WE DO HAVE THE FIRST, SECOND WE HAVE MOTION.
AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE, YOU'VE CAPTURED THE, I I THE ONLY THING IS THE AD HOC WHO THIS, WHO'S ALL ON IT? IT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER CAGER, COMMISSIONER MCCRAY.
AND DO I HAVE ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS ON THE COMMITTEE? WE'LL FIND SOME, I'LL VOLUNTEER CHAIR MURRAY.
I THINK THERE'S A MINIMUM, NOT A MAXIMUM THREE WOULD BE FINE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE UP TO 4, 4, 2 4.
I'M ENVISIONING A, SHES MEETING, SO, ABSOLUTELY.
AND BEFORE WE GO TO VOTE, ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE YES, SIR.
UM, IF IN MY LIFETIME I CAN'T, OH, SORRY.
UH, GREG LANDERS, UH, IN MY LIFETIME, IF I CAN'T SEE AND SURF LONG BEACH WITHOUT A BREAKWATER STOPPING WAVES FROM ENTERING AND NOT HAVING A PERFECT SOUTH SWELL, IT WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE A LANDMARK TO DRAG MY KIDS TO TAKE MY PARENTS.
MY DAD, UH, GREW UP IN WILMINGTON AND, AND THEN EVENTUALLY LONG BEACH.
AND SO HE TELLS STORIES OF, YOU KNOW, SURFING HAPPENING AT LONG BEACH BEFORE THE BREAKWATER.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS AN AMAZING PRESENTATION AND, UH, VERY THOUGHTFUL AND VERY NEAT.
ANY OTHER? SO WE'LL GO AHEAD FOR THE QUESTION.
SO, COMMISSIONER CHAIR MURRAY, WITH THAT, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE NORM, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND POSTPONE ANY FURTHER COMMENT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.
CAN I DO SOME OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THROUGH? CAN'T DO ANY OF THOSE.
DARNED, UM, WHAT ARE MY OTHER OPTIONS THAT I HAVE VISITORS HERE FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE? UNFORTUNATELY, NO, I CAN ADJOURN.
UH, SHE'S GONE NOW, SO WE'RE ADJOURNED.
WE'LL, WE'LL ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF THE LIFE THAT WAS LOST, UM, IN OUR WATERS AND THOSE WHO WERE INJURED.
MAY I ADD AND ALSO TO, UM, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE ACHIEVEMENT OF OUR FORMER CHAIR, COLIN KELLY, FOR HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMITTEE? AMEN.