* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:26] YEAH. BUT IT HAPPENS TWO NIGHTS A WEEK IN DELAY. OKAY. UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. UH, SORRY FOR THE DELAY. UM, CALL TO ORDER. UH, WE ARE READY TO GO. CAN WE GET A, UH, ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MATTHEW PETERSON HERE. JAN. CHRONIC GAP HERE. JODY, MEET HERE. AARON TANI. HERE WE COURT. AWESOME. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. UM, CHAIR'S REPORT TODAY I WANT TO, UH, DISCUSS WHAT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE VACANCY THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAD SOME FOLKS TURN OUT, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. UM, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D LIKE TO UPDATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, FORMALLY THANK, UH, KAREN BLAIR, UH, AND RYAN HOFFMAN AND DAVID LING FOR THEIR SERVICE. UM, IT WOULD, IT CAME ON QUICK FOR KAREN. UH, SHE TURNED OUT, UH, THIS LAST MONTH, UM, RYAN, UH, RESIGNED, UH, 'CAUSE OF PERSONAL REASONS, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS HENCE. AND THEN, UH, MR. WHITLEY, UM, WHO WE DIDN'T SEE VERY OFTEN, UH, TURNED OUT ALSO, UH, THIS LAST MONTH. UH, BUT THEY ALL DESERVE OUR THANKS FOR, UH, VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME IN A STEADFAST WAY OVER THE YEARS THAT THEY DID, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. UM, ALSO, WE WEREN'T CONVENING LAST MONTH. UH, IT WAS A QUICK DECISION TO CANCEL THAT MEETING. THE REASON FOR THAT, UH, WAS SOME PROTOCOL, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FROM, UH, CITY STAFF. UM, AND THOSE PROTOCOLS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED. UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, COUNSELED ON THOSE, UH, THE FORMAL GO INTO EFFECT, WE ASSUME NEXT MONTH, UH, IN THE WRITTEN FORM. UH, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE SOME, UH, VERY SUBTLE CHANGES, UH, IN THE WAY. UH, WE CONCLUDE AN ITEM, UH, ON THE AGENDA, UH, WHICH WE WILL BE, UH, RECOMMENDING IT FOR APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, INSTEAD OF SOME OTHER VERBIAGE THAT YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM TIME TO TIME. UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, THIS COMMISSION EXISTS TO RECOMMEND THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THESE AGENDAS, RECOMMEND THE PROJECTS THAT WE, UH, UH, DISCUSS HERE, UH, THAT ARE ALL FOR, UH, THE GREATER GOOD OF THE PUBLIC, UH, AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE, THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT HERE. WE DO THINGS THAT WE THINK ADD TO QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN INSTRUCTED, UH, TO BE MINDFUL OF CONSERVATION, CORN AND STEAM CLEANING AND SECURITY AND LIGHTING, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO ARE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND NOW WE WILL BE, UH, EVEN MORE SO RECOMMENDING THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR ULTIMATE APPROVAL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT, UH, CLEAR FOR EVERYONE AS WELL. UH, AND LASTLY ON, ON MY LITTLE, UH, REPORT, WE DROPPED IN 13 NEW AND ADDITIONAL BIG BELLIES, UH, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. UH, AND WE'VE GOT MORE ORDERED. UH, SO EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE, UH, ALL OF, UH, THE DILAPIDATED UNITS REPLACED, AND AS THEY BECOME, UH, DILAPIDATED, WE'LL REPLACE THOSE. UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE MINDFUL OF, OF HOW THOSE LOOK AND HOW THEY'RE OPERATING. AND ONE MORE TIME TO REMIND EVERYBODY. UH, THESE ARE NOT THE BELLS AND WHISTLES, BIG BELLIES THAT, THAT HAVE SOLAR AND COMPACT AND HAVE POWER WINDOWS AND STEREOS. UH, THESE ARE VERY SIMPLE UNITS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE FOOT PEDALS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH A DIRTY HANDLE, UH, TO THROW SOMETHING AWAY. THEY STILL, UH, KEEP PEOPLE OUT FROM RUMMAGING THROUGH, UH, THE GARBAGE. SO THAT IS THE CHAIR'S REPORT. UM, AND THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE'LL MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, FOR THE BELMONT SHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS OF NEW MARY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY, MAY 16TH, 2024 OF A MOTION, PLEASE. I GO AHEAD. OH, UH, AARON, I RECOMMEND TO APPROVE MINUTES. OKAY. UH, ANY [00:05:01] PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM? NEED A SECOND, PLEASE? ALL IN FAVOR. A THANK YOU. UH, ITEM TWO RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2024 PACKET. I'M GONNA GO OVER, UM, MAY AND JUNE'S REAL QUICK JUST TO, AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER JUNE. SO MAY'S REVENUE IS UP 7% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR. SORRY, CAN I GET A MOTION? YOU HEAR THAT ITEM? OH, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO HEAR THAT ITEM? MOTION TO HEAR? OH, YOU NEED A MOTION TO HEAR? YES. MOTION TO HEAR THE FINANCIAL REPORT ENDING IN JUNE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOTION. SO, MAY'S REVENUE WAS UP 7% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN JUNE'S REVENUE WAS UP 6% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR. WHILE THE YEAR TO DATE REVENUE IS AT 10% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR, THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE IS NOW 684,783 AND 79 CENTS. OKAY. IS THERE ANY SPECIFICS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HELP US FOCUS ON OR ADDRESS? NO SPECIFICS. NO, I, I, I WOULD, UH, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. YEAH. UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE CHART AND THINK THE SEPTEMBER NUMBER LOOKS LOW. IS THAT BECAUSE IT IS LIKE TRAILING, LIKE NOT ALL THE DATA HAS BEEN COLLECTED FROM SEPTEMBER? OH, YES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE REVENUE TRENDS ON THE GRAPH. YEAH. SO THE REVENUE TRENDS ON THE GRAPH IS A, IS A ESTIMATED ENDING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. OH, BASED ON LA BASED ON LAD. I WAS, AGAIN, HOW MANY I LIKE, WE'RE IN JULY. OKAY. APOLOGIES FOR THAT. LAS LAS CREATED A, UM, KIND OF A PROJECTION FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BASED ON, UM, ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL MAY. SO JUNE WAS AN ESTIMATE. WE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED THAT BY A COUPLE THOUSAND. UM, JULY IS GONNA BE ONE OF ESTIMATED AT 1 0 8, JULY, UH, AUGUST NINE, EIGHT, SEPTEMBER 82. I'M GONNA GET, I'M GONNA GUESS 82 BEING THE LOW NUMBER, JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THE SEASON GOES WITH BACK TO SCHOOL AND EVERY, AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE SUMMER'S ENDING AND KIND OF GOING TO END. SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT. UM, WE'RE PROJECTED CURRENT FY 24 REVENUE PROJECTION IS 1.1 MILLION. UM, AND THAT COULD CHANGE, GIVE OR TAKE HOW THE SUMMER GOES. AND A FEATURED ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY. , WE'LL DISCUSS THAT ALSO. UH, OKAY. WE HAVE THE REPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON BUDGET ITEMS AT THIS TIME? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALONG THESE TRANSIT BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR MAY AND JUNE OF 24. UH, THAT'S NEXT IN THE PACKET FROM BUDGET. A MOTION. CAN I GET A MOTION TO HEAR THAT? UH, MOTION TO HEAR, PLEASE. RECOMMENDATION TO HEAR THE TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM FOR MAY, JUNE. UM, JUNE'S RIDERS WERE 141 RIDERS, UH, WITH 4,682 BOARDINGS MAYS. WERE 148 RIDERS WITH 4,440 NINES CONTINUING TO GO. TRENDING GOOD. TRENDING, UH, I, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SAY IT'S SEASONAL. UM, AND LIKE WE SAY, EVERY SINGLE MONTH, AND I'LL SAY THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF FOLKS THAT ARE JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS PROGRAM, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES OR HOW IT WORKS, UH, AWESOME. UH, BUT THERE'S STILL A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS OR HOW IT WORKS. UH, AND EVEN , THERE'S A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES WHOSE EMPLOYEES DON'T KNOW HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS. UH, SO I'D ASK ONE MORE TIME, AND I KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. UH, AND I'LL CERTAINLY HELP, UH, IF WE COULD PUT THIS THROUGH THE BSBA AS WE ALWAYS DO AGAIN, UM, AND PERHAPS WE REACH OUT TO OR LONG BEACH POST AND TRY TO DO ANOTHER, UH, UH, INFORMATIONAL, UH, STORY ABOUT IT SO THAT WE CAN GET RIDERSHIP UP. THIS REALLY HELPS THE PARKING, UH, ENSURE A LOT. SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, WE HAVE THE DATA, UH, [00:10:01] WE NEED A SECOND PLEASE TO ACCEPT SECOND, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BUS PASS PROGRAM. OKAY. AWESOME. UH, ALL IN FAVOR, YOU RECEIVE THE REPORT. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO HOLD ELECTIONS TO APPOINT A NEW COMMISSION, VICE CHAIR, UH, KAREN BLA, UH, HAS TURNED OUT. SHE SERVED AS VICE CHAIR FOR, UH, THE LAST, UH, NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, IN A WONDERFUL WAY. UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, SITS, UH, AS CHAIR IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CHAIR, UM, AND ALSO ATTENDS, UH, REGULAR, UH, STUDY MEETINGS AND FOCUS MEETINGS IN THE CITY HALL. UM, UH, WE NEED A RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ITEM. I'LL RECOMMEND TO HOLD ELECTIONS OKAY. FOR THE VICE CHAIR. AND WITH THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JAN GAP AS VICE CHAIR. DO WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT OR? I WILL. OKAY. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. OR, UH, UM, APPROVE THAT OR, UH, UH, LIKE THAT . ALRIGHT. UM, I APPROVE THAT TOO. OKAY. UNANIM. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE SEAT? UH, WE NEED A SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND, UH, OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? OKAY. WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. WILL BE HERE. TEXTING, UH, ITEM FIVE. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, UH, THE CONSERVATION COURT OF LONG BEACH SCOPE REPORT FROM JULY 1ST, 2024 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2024. UH, AND WE PUT QUITE A LOT OF WORK INTO, UH, THE SCOPE. ARE WE GONNA HEAR FROM THE CONSERVATION COURT, UH, ON ANY ITEM OR WE JUST APPROVING THIS ITEM? THIS IS, UH, A AVAIL. SO IF, IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MICHAEL BRIDGES IS AVAILABLE FOR CONSERVATION COURT. UM, IF ANY, MICHAEL, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING YOU CAN, UM, REGARDING, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSAL. ONE MINUTE. LET'S HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE. YEAH, PAUL. UH, AARON, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. UM, MICHAEL, COULD YOU, UH, JOIN US REAL QUICK AND, AND YES, SIR. UM, IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ON SCOPE OF WORK OR CONCERNS GOING FORWARD? UH, THE ONLY, OH, OH, SORRY. WELL, THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE, AND I THINK IT'S GOTTEN BETTER, THAT CAN ALWAYS BE BETTER, IS THE CLEANING OF THE SIDEWALKS. OKAY. AND I KNOW IT'S MAJOR PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS AND FALL, BUT MAN, AS A RESIDENT, I CAN'T STAND TO SEE IT. IT'S SO SOMETIMES REALLY BAD, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND. IS THAT MORE STEAM CLEANING? YEAH, PROBABLY MORE. I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN YOU DO IT, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, TRYING TO ADDRESS ISSUE OF THE WEEKENDS. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE? WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEPTH OF, OF SCHEDULE FOR STEAM CLEANING OF SIDEWALKS AND CONSERVATION COURT SEPARATE FROM, UH, SPECTRUMS BEING CLEANED? SO WE ACTUALLY DO NOT DO PRESSURE WASHING BEFORE SECOND STREET. UM, THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR SCOPE OF WORK. UM, WE'VE DONE FAVORS FOR, UM, THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION WHEN THERE'S LIKE CERTAIN ISSUES. BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THAT, UM, WE DON'T DO THE PRESSURE WASHING FOR SECOND STREET. OKAY. SO I KNOW THE PRESSURE WASHING, UH, I KNOW WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SPECTRUM, UH, STEAM CLEANING SERVICES AND THEY DO, UH, MORE INTENSE STEAM CLEANING IN THE SUMMERTIME IN THE FALL WHEN THERE'S MORE VISITORS AND THE WEATHER, UH, DICTATES SUCH. UM, IS THERE ANY SPECIAL CLEANING FOCUS ON THE SIDEWALKS? NOT PRESSURE WASHING? I MEAN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING EMBEDDED, WOULD YOU TRY TO REMOVE IT? LIKE GUM OR, UH, STAINS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, THAN THE SCOPE OF WORK? NOT NECESSARILY DEEP IN THE SCOPE OF WORK. UH, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, THE GUM OR STAINS, THE RECOMMENDED, THE RECOMMENDED, UH, SOLUTION IS THE PRESSURE WASHING. 'CAUSE WE [00:15:01] DO PRESSURE WASHING, UH, ASSIGNMENTS THROUGHOUT LONG BEACH. AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE IS OUR PRESSURE WASHING TO DO, TO DO THE SAME THING. SO, UM, IF THERE IS REALLY LIKE SERIOUS DEEP AREAS, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, FAVORS FOR THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE IT ON OUR OWN. BUT, UM, YEAH, AS FAR AS STAYINGS, LIKE THE PRESSURE WASHING IS THE BEST WAY TO GET GO. OKAY. UH, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT. IT'S, IT'S, IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH COVID GOT WEIRD AND THEN COMING BACK AND I THINK JUST GETTING, GETTING INTO ANOTHER RHYTHM AGAIN, IT TOOK A WHILE I THINK. AND YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF, ONE THING I KIND OF JUST NOTICED IS IT, IT IS VERY, IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE THE SAME PEOPLE EVERY DAY. 'CAUSE IT'S PART OF THIS, THE TRAINING PROGRAM AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO I KNOW IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A, A MANAGEMENT, IT'S A MANAGEMENT CHORE FOR YOU GUYS TO, YOU'RE TRAINING THE WHOLE NEW TEAM EVERY DAY WEEK WITH WHATNOT. SO, UH, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE FOR THE FOLKS THAT, THAT DO THE WORK. BUT, UM, I'D SAY OVERALL I'VE SEEN IT IMPROVE. I THINK LIKE THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT I STILL SEE ISSUES WITH AND THAT IT, I THINK IT'S IN THE SCOPE, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE, IS REMOVING, UM, LIKE STICKERS AND SIGNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON THE POLES WHERE THE CROSSWALKS, 'CAUSE LIKE EVERY DAY IT FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOES AND SLAPS A BUNCH OF STICKERS UP AND I END UP TAKING A LOT OF 'EM DOWN. AND SO I'D SAY LIKE, IS IS THAT IN THE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S COVERED IN OUR SCOPE OF WORK BECAUSE YOU YES. AND THAT ACTUALLY IS COVERED AND, AND LIKE I WAS, I WAS STATING THIS MORNING, I ACTUALLY CAME DOWN TO SECOND STREET ON MONDAY. 'CAUSE I LIKE TO EVERY NOW AND THEN DO A WALK OF SECOND STREET YEAH. JUST TO OBSERVE MY CREW. AND I DID SEE QUITE A BIT OF THOSE. SO, UM, WHAT I HAVE MY CREW DOING IS LIKE, THEY USE AN ADHESIVE REMOVER. MM-HMM. , UM, THEY USE SCRAPERS AND THEN THEY HAVE, UM, A SPECIFIC GRAFFITI REMOVER THAT THEY USE. OKAY. SO I ACTUALLY EQUIP THOSE GUYS WITH THOSE ITEMS AND THEY SHOULD BE NOW EVEN HAVE A BIGGER FOCUS ON REMOVING THOSE AS WELL. THAT'S GREAT. AND THEY GET 'EM, SOMETIMES THEY GET THE BIG, LIKE PART OF THE TRAINING PROGRAM WHEN YOU HAVE THE GUY, YOU KNOW, THE NEW PEOPLE JOIN. LIKE, HERE'S YOUR CHECKLIST. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MAJOR ITEMS. AND SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO LIKE, WALK AROUND THE, THE BIG, 'CAUSE THEY'LL BE LIKE ON THE SITE BECAUSE THEY'LL GO TO THE BIG BILL AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL LIKE TAKE THE TRASH. BUT LIKE, DON'T LOOK AT THE, THE WHOLE THING. 'CAUSE THE PEOPLE GET VERY CREATIVE WITH THEIR STICKER AND SIGN PLACEMENT. YES, THEY DO. SO, UM, I I, I DIDN'T SEE, SEE THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY ON HERE, BUT, UM, BUT WE DO, WE DO OFFER THAT SERVICE AND WE DO DO IT. THAT'S PART OF THE, UM, GRAFFITI REMOVAL. AND THEN, UH, THE TREE PLANTING ONE, I SEE THIS, IT IS LIKE $6 AND 25 CENTS PER TREE VISIT. 95 TREES. SO IT IS $593 PER DAY. UM, IT IS THAT LIKE, 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT LIKE WATERING THE TREES EVERY DAY. THEY, I WOULD SAY MOST DAYS THEY, IT APPEARS FROM, FROM WHAT I SEE FROM MY STORES THAT THEY JUST WALK PAST, THEY MIGHT PICK UP SOME TRASH AROUND IT. MM-HMM. , BUT THEY DON'T LIKE DO ANYTHING TO THE TREES DIFFERENTLY. WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? $6 AND 25 CENTS PER DAY PER TREE VISIT? SO THERE ARE SCHEDULED DAYS, UM, DEPENDING ON THE SEASON WHERE WE HAVE A SEPARATE CREW OTHER THAN MY CREW COME OUT AND ACTUALLY WATER EACH TO EACH, UM, TREE PLANT. THEY'LL USUALLY PUT IN, I'D SAY ABOUT 15 GALLONS OF WATER PER TREE. AND THAT, THAT CREW WILL BE HANDLED THROUGH OUR, UH, LANDSCAPE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT. GOT IT. OKAY. SO IT'S, IT IS, IT IS A PER DAY COST, BUT THEN IT IS PER QUARTER, SO IT'S BREAKING IT OUT. YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE ONLY DOING IT A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH IT LOOKS LIKE. RIGHT. OKAY. I I I'M WITH YOU NOW. AND YOUR TREE PLANTING COSTS ARE VERY REASONABLE, SO, OKAY. I DON'T THINK THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE TREES ON SECOND STREET IS NECESSARILY THE FAULT OF OH, NO, NO, NO. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL. BUT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT TOPIC. SO WE GOT THIS ON OUR AGENDA FOR, FOR LATER. YEAH. WE OPEN UP THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE TREES ON SECOND STREET. SO, WE'LL, WE'LL SEGREGATE THAT FOR A MOMENT. UH, WE HAD ASKED A COUPLE MONTHS BACK, UH, AND I I, I DON'T SEE THE ADDITIONAL TIME FOR ADDING STAFF [00:20:01] IN THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING ON THAT THREE OR FOUR DAYS A WEEK. IS THAT PART OF THIS? THAT'S NOT PART OF, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS CONSERVATION CORPS, UH, LET US KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT BACK IS THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT. MM-HMM. FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE SECOND, THE AFTERNOON SHIFT THAT EVERYONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT INTO A FUTURE CONTRACT IF WE WANT THAT. OR ARE YOU SAYING THEY CAN'T DO IT AT ALL? YES, THEY CAN'T DO IT. THEY CAN'T DO IT AT ALL. THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO POTENTIALLY LOOK INTO LIKE A DAY PORTER TYPE SYSTEM IF, IF WE WANT THAT ATTENTION. YEAH. UM, AND, AND JUST SO I KNOW, BECAUSE THE TIMING OF THE CREWS START A CERTAIN TIME IN THE MORNING, THEY WORK THROUGH A CERTAIN TIME AND THEN HAVING, YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER SHIFT, BASICALLY LIKE ANOTHER ROUND OF, OF OF LIKE, BECAUSE THEY WOULD GO TO OVERTIME? OR CAN YOU ? UH, AT THIS POINT, YES, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE OUR CORPS MEMBERS AND OUR CREWS WORK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS AND THEN WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS, UM, YEAH, IT WOULD BASICALLY GO INTO OVERTIME. SO OUR, OUR, OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM FELT THAT IT WASN'T FEASIBLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? UM, JODY, ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, OH, SORRY, ONE LAST THING. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UH, SOME OF THE CONSERVATION CORPS COME TO OUR MEETINGS EVERY MONTH. IS THAT, ARE YOU GUYS ABLE TO SEND SOMEONE TO, TO GET FEEDBACK AND IS THAT STILL SOMETHING WHERE WE'D LIKE OKAY. FORWARD NUMBER OF YEARS? IT USED TO BE ME. YEAH. I WAS GONNA SAY FAMILIAR. SO, AND WE LIKE IT WHEN IT'S YOU. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT YEAH, NO, I CAN, I CAN ATTEND EVERY MEETING. THAT'D BE AWESOME. WE REALLY APPRECIATE. 'CAUSE UH, I THINK THINGS COME UP PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND IZE, BUT THE PATTERNS CHANGE ON STATE STREET AND THE, THE, YOU, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THINGS. SO THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION. DO WE NEED A SECOND PLEASE TO ACCEPT THIS REPORT? SECOND. OKAY. UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CONSERVATION COURT, PLEASE. UH, REMEMBER THESE ARE COMMENTS ONLY, UH, AT THIS TIME. YES. JULIE DEAN. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE NEXT MONTH IN THEIR REPORT IN THE CONSERVATION COURTS REPORT, UM, IF THEY COULD BETTER EXPLAIN THE LIMITATIONS OF DEALING WITH, UM, HUMAN AND ANIMAL WASTE, EXCREMENT, ET CETERA. UM, BECAUSE I THINK FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AND, UM, AND HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT BETTER IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE NOTICE, UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. HI. MY HUSBAND AND I WALKED THE STREET EARLIER, , AND HONESTLY, WE DO NOT SEE ANY SIGNS OF FACIAL WASHING. I KNOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SCHEDULE, BUT WE'RE OUT THERE EIGHT OR NIGHT IN THE MORNING. AND THERE'S, WE USED TO SEE WHEN THEY WERE WORKING REGULARLY, WE HAD, SEE, WE WOULD SEE EVIDENCE THEY OR THE, THE, THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE WET AND CLEAN. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. UM, SECONDLY, UH, THERE WAS GONNA BE A TREE PLANTED IN FRONT OF EVAN AND MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ONLY VACANT SPOT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET THAT REPLACED. AND THE TREES REALLY NEED MORE WATER. IT'S REALLY, REALLY DRY. SO WE HAVE SEAT, UM, WATERING. BUT, AND THEY KNOW IT'S A HARD JOB BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO STOP TRAFFIC WHILE THEY'RE WATERING, MAYBE EARLY IN THE DAY. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE THEY REALLY NEED HELP. AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE HOURS THAT YOUR TEAM WORKS. NOT BAD IN SHIFTS, BUT CHANGING HOURS TO LIKE NEW THE TWO OR LIVING THE WATER OR SOMETHING. IS THAT NOT POSSIBLE OR HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR LIFE ABOUT THAT? OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CONSERVATION COURT? THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY. THANK YOU FOLKS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UH, WE NEED, UH, A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THIS REPORT. AYE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ITEM SIX RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A QUOTE FOR THE ARBORIST TO INSPECT THE TREES, UH, IN THE DISTRICT, UH, AND CITE CONDITIONS OF OF THE CURRENT INVENTORY. [00:25:01] UM, DO WE HAVE CITY STAFF HERE FOR THAT? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR? OH, I'M SORRY. UH, I I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HEAR THE, UH, THE QUOTE IN INFORMATION FOR THE TREE SURVEY. YEAH. THE, THE QUOTE IS, UM, QUOTE IS FOR ARBOR ENHANCEMENT TO COME IN AND UPDATE THE TREE INVENTORY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CANOPY HEALTH AND APPEAL. UM, INCLUDES THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND DO A SITE VISIT, COMPREHENSIVE DATA COLLECTION AND GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE HEALTH OF ALL THE TREES WITHIN THE BELMONT CHORE AREA. AND THEN I ALSO ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT KIND OF TREES WE COULD USE TO POSSIBLY REPLACE IN THE BELMONT CHORE AREA FOR THAT. SO IN THIS ASK, UH, SO WE'LL BE, WE CAN IZE THIS FOR NEXT MONTH AND WE'LL HAVE RESULTS OF THIS OR, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT YET. WE, I WILL BE CONTACTING THEM AFTER THIS MEETING TO SCHEDULE A TIME TO GET OUT. SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ASK FOR THAT. THIS IS THE ASK FOR THEM TO COME OUT. AND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD ASK THEM TO, UH, COME TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH THEIR FINDINGS? YEAH. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO MONTHS? YEAH. UM, THE REASON BEING, UH, WE HAVE LOTS OF CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS BUSINESS, UH, VISITORS, ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREES ALONG THE SECOND STREET, ESPECIALLY THE ONES, UH, THERE FRONT FACING, UH, ON THE SIDEWALKS. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 'EM ARE, UM, WITHERED. AND, AND SO THE ASK IS, UM, ASIDE FROM THE CURRENT HEALTH, HOW MANY CAN WE REPLACE? DO WE HAVE A BUDGET TO REPLACE? WHAT KIND OF, OBVIOUSLY WHAT KIND OF TREES TO CONSIDER? UM, AS WELL AS TRIMMING AND ON, UH, A FERTILIZING SCHEDULE AND THE PROPER WATERING SCHEDULE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THEN IF WE COULD ALSO INCLUDE THE SIDEWALK R PROTECTORS FOR THE TREES, UH, WHETHER THOSE ARE FLUSHED WITH THE SIDEWALK OR THEY NEED TO BE RAISED, UH, TO KEEP, UH, ANIMALS AND PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE TREES, UH, JUST SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WHAT WE REPLACE IN TIDE, UH, HAS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON TO THAT. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE GRADES. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO THAT PATTY THAT I GOT THE INFORMATION FROM HEATHER. UH, I THINK THAT'S SAFER WAY TO GO. THE GRADES, EVEN IF WE GET 'EM QUEUED UP, RIGHT, THEY'RE GONNA GET OFF KILTER AGAIN. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, AND, AND I THINK, UH, WE DO DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT FOR DESIGN. THERE'S A COUPLE TREES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE GRAINS AND SOME ONE'S PUT DECOMPOSED GRANITE KIND OF AROUND IT, WHICH IS LIKE THE DG MATERIAL. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A, A DEEP ROOT WATERING, WHEN, WHEN THE NEW INSTALLATION, AT SOME POINT WE GET TO THAT POINT, THERE'S, THERE'S A TUBE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TREE, YOU WATER INTO THE TUBE AND A DEEP ROOT WATERS THE, THE PLANTS. AND SO YOU DON'T NEED THOSE GRS IN BECAUSE THEY JUST COLLECT TRASH AND THEY'RE AN ACCIDENTALLY AND THEY'RE ACCIDENT. SO THERE'S SO MUCH TRASH DOWN INSIDE THOSE GRAPES. IT'S HARD FOR THE CONSERVATION CORPS TO GET IN THERE. AND, AND THEY'RE GRAFFITI UP A LOT OF 'EM. SO THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE, AND THEN JUST KIND OF ON TOP OF LIKE, PEOPLE ARE CUTTING DOWN THE TREES IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES FOR THEIR SIGNAGE. WELL, THEY'RE PRUNING , EXCESSIVE PRUNING. I MEAN, IT IS LIKE THAT'S, I WON'T NAME NAMES, BUT I, THERE'S SOME TREES THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH BRUTALIZED. BUT, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IS, UH, WHOSE SCOPE OF WORK IS IT TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES, UH, PROPERLY AND HAND STAKEHOLDERS CUT THE TREES? AND IS THERE A RAMIFICATION FOR THAT? UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS I THINK SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. THAT BE REALLY INFORMATIVE, UH, FOR EVERYBODY. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE, UH, THE MOTION, WE HAVE DISCUSSION. WE NEED A SECOND PLEASE. SECOND, AND THEN JUST TO, JUST, SORRY, JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM ONE THING. THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE SIDE STREET TREES THOUGH, TOO, RIGHT? LIKE ALL THE TREES, LIKE, LIKE THEY GO DOWN THE 'CAUSE THE SIDE STREETS. YEAH. YOU MEAN GOING INTO THE ALLEYS? YEAH. WELL, YEAH. WELL, NOT INTO THE ALLEY, BUT THE, THE SIDE, THE SIDES OFF THE SECOND BECAUSE THERE'S SOME TREES ON THERE. OKAY. OKAY. AWESOME. DO WE NEED A SECOND, PLEASE? SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM. THE, OUR FIRST VISIT, UH, JUST THE CURIOSITY. THE CITY HAS ITS OWN ARBORIST THAT WE HAVE A REPORT FROM THE CITY ARBORIST. BRIAN, DO YOU WANT TO, WE DO, WE DO NOT HAVE A REPORT FOR THE CITY ARBORIST YET. NO. OKAY. I BELIEVE IN THE PAST WE DID IT ALL. [00:30:01] I, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING. YEAH, WE CAN LOOK, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, ITEM SEVEN, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO, UH, RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL TO INCREASE THE PARKING METER RATE IN THE DISTRICT OF $2 PER HOUR, UH, AT A TWO HOUR MAXIMUM METER. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS, UM, RAISING THE METER RATE TO $2. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S DISCUSS I'M IN FAVOR. IT'S STILL A BARGAIN. YEAH, IT IS, IT IS. WELL, IF WE LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND WE LOOK AT OUR TREND AND WE LOOK AT OUR INCOME AND WE LOOK AT OUR LIST OF PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE, UH, ON OUR BOARD FOR COMPLETION AND ONGOING, UH, WITH THE COST OF, UH, LABOR, THE COST OF INSURANCE, THE COST OF GOODS, EVERYTHING, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR A RATE INCREASE ON ANY LEVEL, AT ANY BUSINESS, OR ANY CAPACITY THAT IS REASONABLE TO THINK THAT WE COULD REMAIN STATIC WITH OUR METER RATES. THE CONSIDERATIONS ARE, UH, AND I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO CONSIDER, UH, NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, UH, WHAT, UH, OTHER BEACH COMMUNITIES CHARGE, UH, TOLERANCES. UM, HOW IT INTERACTS WITH, UH, THE PARKING APP THAT WE HAVE, UH, EASE OF TRANSACTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAINTAIN A PACE SO THAT WE CAN RAISE ENOUGH REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN DO PROJECTS THAT ARE ON OUR, UH, AGENDA, UH, AND FOR ONGOING PARKING COMMISSIONS, UH, SO THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE TO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE, UH, REQUIRED FOR QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS WORTH. UH, ANY OTHER OPINIONS ON THIS? I AGREE. YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, I ON, BUT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE HOURS THAT WE CHARGE AND, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING IN THE FUTURE. UH, IF, IF THAT'S A CONSIDERATION, UH, WE NEED TO PUSH THAT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. WHAT IS THE TIME LIMIT OF METERS DONE? DAY 10 TO SEVEN. SEVEN. IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK. CITYWIDE. OH, IS CITYWIDE. I'M ASKING WHAT IT IS DOWNTOWN. WHAT IS IT? THE LATEST HOUR THAT I EXACTLY. DOWNTOWN, DO YOU KNOW, SIR? I THINK DOWN BY THE PIKE IT'S EIGHT OR NINE O'CLOCK. EIGHT O'CLOCK I THINK. ARE WE, I DON'T WANNA STAB AROUND IN THE DARK ON IT, SO I DON'T HAVE THE CONFIRMATION ON THAT. BUT LET'S MAKE THAT PART OF THE CONSIDERATION, UH, THAT WE, I WOULD, I WOULD DISCUSS INCREASING HOURS. WE CAN DISCUSS IT. I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT YET AT THIS POINT. I THINK, UH, LIKE A SLOW DRIP THING. AND THE REASON, THE REASON WHY IS AS HAVING BEEN A RESIDENT FOR A LONG TIME, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, USE THE METERED SPOTS AND THINGS IN CERTAIN HOURS AND IT'S, IT'S, THE RESIDENTS USE IT MORE. SO LIKE THEY EAT A LOT OF VISITORS THAT COME AND THE EVENING RESIDENTS, THE PEOPLE I KNOW WILL USE THESE METERED SPOTS, ESPECIALLY THE LOTS BEHIND THE BUSINESSES AND THINGS. AND IT'S JUST LIKE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE LIKE KIND OF A QUALITY OF LIFE THING. IT KIND OF BE A DISRUPTOR, LIKE INCREASING IT A QUARTER, NOT GONNA LIKE, CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIFE. AND MOST OF THAT MONEY COMES FROM VISITORS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY, I, I COULD SEE THAT CAUSING A, A BIT OF AN UPROAR OR, OR A DISGRUNTLEMENT JUST KNOWING THE PEOPLE I KNOW THAT, THAT USE THOSE METERED SPOTS IN THE, IN THE LATE HOURS. AND I KNOW IT'S LIKE, I GET LIKE, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE COME IN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND LIKE, OH, METER FREE. I FEEL THEY FEEL GOOD. SO IT'S LIKE, UH, I, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL TAKE, BUT I'M ALL FOR, WE'RE INCREASING TO $2 AN HOUR, BUT WE, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE. I'M NOT SAYING NO TO TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY, I'D LOVE TO HEAR PEOPLE THINK. I HAVE A FEELING THAT AFTER THIS MORNING WE'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT ABOUT IT. THAT'S JUST MY FEELING ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS YOU RUN THIS ANALYSIS OF KEEPING WHERE THE RIGHT. AND EXTENDING HOURS VERSUS INCREASING IT AND NOT EXTENDING HOURS AND SEE WHERE THAT REVENUE YEAH. WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS 'CAUSE YES, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY PRESIDENT IS NOT PARKING AT EVERY METER AND IT'S YEAH, IT'S JUST, THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY ANY FEW RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE PARKING. YEAH. IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT THE MAJORITY, I GUESS LIKE, UM, HUMAN BEHAVIOR WISE, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE, LIKE INCREASING THE RATE IS, IS YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE. THEY BARELY [00:35:01] NOTICE THAT. RIGHT. BUT LIKE, THE TIME CHANGE IS LIKE GONNA THROW PEOPLE OFF AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET TICKETS. PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET UPSET ABOUT THAT AND THE COMMUNICATION ABOUT THAT. IT'S JUST THAT CHANGING ALL THE SIGNS, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WOULD, WOULD COME ALONG WITH THAT. THE EXTENDING OF THE HOURS. AND MY, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT THAT I, I THINK YOU TUCK IN AN EXTRA QUARTER AND UNTIL WE, LIKE, WE SEEM TO BE OKAY ON OUR REVENUE. BUT ANYWAY, I DUNNO. THAT'S JUST MY, OKAY. THAT'S MY 25 CENTS . ALRIGHT. UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF RAISING IT TO $2 AND WE COULD MAYBE EXTEND AN HOUR. WOULD THAT BE TOO, TOO LITTLE OR NOT? I MEAN, YEAH, THERE HAS TO BE THAT BALANCE. I GET THAT. WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE THE DISCUSSION BEGINS AND IT'S GONNA GO TO A LOT OF PLACES. UH, I I THINK IT IS A DISCUSSION IS WARRANTED. UM, I WE ARE GOING TO, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA FIND OUT, UH, WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS, UH, AFTER THIS MORNING. UH, I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR US IS THE FACT, 'CAUSE EVEN JUST AS NORMAL PEOPLE, EVERYTHING IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE AND SO HAS TO INCREASE ITSELF. YES. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK WE, WE NEED TO DO IT. WE'VE GOT PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO DO, AND THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE BUSINESS DISTRICT LOOK GREAT. SO IT'S, EVERYTHING'S GOING ON. SO I, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT IN TERMS OF THE HOURS. I DON'T OWN BUSINESS. SO I THINK I WOULD DEFER TO THREE OF YOU THAT, WELL, I THINK IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION. IT IS WORTH, UH, IN CONSIDERATION, UH, IF, UH, WE FINALLY SETTLE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO AN INCREASE OF 25 CENTS AN HOUR, UM, AND WE LEAVE THE HOURS 10 TO SEVEN, UH, WITH IT BEEN FOR YEARS AND YEARS. UH, THAT WOULD BE, IF THAT'S THE FEELING OF THE COMMISSION, FEELING OF CITY COUNCIL, FEELING OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, OR IF WE EXTEND, UH, BECAUSE WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH THE CONSIDERATION HAVING DISCUSSION. UH, AND I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT. UM, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, INCREASE THE $2 AN HOUR, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT. YES. IIII THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT. I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO SNEAK, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T SNEAK IN AND WE, NOT SNEAKING, BUT LIKE ACCIDENTALLY RECOMMEND A CHANGE THE TIME JUST YET BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES MORE LEAVE ESPA DISCUSSION, DISCUSSIONS. LET'S LEAVE THE HOURS. OKAY FOR NOW. UH, WE NEED A SECOND PLEASE. SECOND I MAKING THE MOTION. SORRY. OH, I'LL MAKE THE, THAT MAKE MOTION. I REMEMBER. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. OH, I MEAN YOU MADE THE MOTION. OH, OKAY. I'LL SECOND IT THEN. OKAY. UH, SO PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. HEATHER KERN, BELMONT SHORE ASSOCIATION. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME INFORMATION. BELMONT SHORE IS A DOLLAR 75 AN HOUR 10 TO SEVEN. DOWNTOWN CORE IS A DOLLAR 50 AN HOUR NINE TO NINE. DOWNTOWN IS A DOLLAR AN HOUR, NINE TO SIX. THE PIKE IS $2 AN HOUR, NINE TO NINE, AND RETRO ROW WAS A DOLLAR AN HOUR AND 10 TO SEVEN. UM, SO BELMONT SHORE AND RETRO ROW START AT THE LATEST. THE OTHER AREAS START AT 9:00 AM AND NO ONE, UH, I'M SORRY, DOWNTOWN AND PIKE GO TO 9:00 PM AND AS FAR AS SIGNAGE GOES, IT'S ALL THE DIGITAL ON THE METER. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRINTED SIGNS FOR ANY OF THE PARKING METER RATES, SO THERE WOULD BE NO VIRTUALLY NO COST TO CHANGING ANY OF THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UH, YES. HAD FAIRLY CURIOUS HOW THE METERS FOR BRETT, BECAUSE I NEVER SEE A METER READER, YOU USUALLY SEE PEOPLE EITHER WALKING THE STREET OR LITTLE CART. SO ARE THEY REALLY, ARE THEY REALLY CHECKING? YES, I GOT TICKET. THE OTHER I WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE IN COMMENTS ONLY FOLKS, PLEASE, UH, ARE THERE REPORTS BACK AS TO HOW MANY TICKETS THEY'RE GETTING AND WHAT HOURS? AND REGARDING CHANGING THE HOURS, UM, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY TROLLING THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS FIRST BEFORE THEY PAY. SO I THINK YOU'LL JUST PUSH MORE PEOPLE EVERY DAY. AND WE LIVE ON PARK COUNTY. WHAT, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH A DECREASE THERE ARE OF PEOPLE TROLL FOR TARGET. AND OF COURSE, UH, THEY'RE ADDING THE PARKLETS, SO WE'RE LOSING METERS AND WE'RE ADDING EMPLOYEES AND [00:40:01] CUSTOMERS. SO THE PRESSURES ON STREET PARKING ARE HUGE AND GETTING PAID. SO IT'S A VERY COMPLEX SITUATION AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT THOSE ARE A FEW THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT FROM YOU PUBLIC. YES. JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS THAT, UM, MY PERSONAL OBSERVATION RECENTLY HAS BEEN A PARKING METER READER COMES OUT THERE ON FOOT AND IT'S USUALLY AROUND LUNCHTIME. HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT PEOPLE EARLY MORNING OR LATE EVENING WOULD I DOUBT WHETHER THERE'S A METER READERS COMING OUT. I CAN'T GUARANTEE. OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? UM, OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM I, AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, ITEM EIGHT RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AND RECEIVE UPDATES ON THE BELMONT SHORE GATEWAY, UH, SIGNAGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. I'LL MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE AND RECEIVE THE UPDATES. AND THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM SILVER PERKINS, SIR? YEAH, WE, WE HAVE OUR ROSCOE FROM SILVER PERKINS HERE, UM, IN CASE THERE'S ANY KIND OF DESIGN QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SIGN AND WHERE UP AND, UH, WE JUST HAVE A SEAT. SO, UH, SILVER PERKINS, UH, FOLKS IS THE DESIGN FIRM, UH, THAT WAS, UH, UH, ENGAGED BY THE CITY TO REVIEW THE DESIGN, THE CONCEPT, AND THE FEASIBILITY OF THE DESIGN SILVER PERKINS, UH, AS A DEEP RESUME OF PROJECTS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND BEYOND, UH, THE MOST RECOGNIZED FOR ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WOULD BE THE, UH, GATEWAY SIGNAGE OF LAX, UH, THE DYNAMIC SIGNS THAT EXIST IN THAT SPACE. UH, REVIEW OUR DESIGN. THEY HAVE MADE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM, UH, ENACTED SOME CHANGES FROM THE DESIGN FOR FEASIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY. UH, AND I'M GONNA DROP IT OFF IN YOUR OFF AT THAT FOR A QUICK UPDATE. UH, GREAT. I KNOW IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE YOU PROVIDED, AND SO I BELIEVE WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS, UM, STILL IN, IN THE SET. UM, BOTH ARE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. UM, AND SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR COMMENTS, UM, YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. THE BACK OF THE SIGN , SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO CRAZY WHAT YOU DO HAVE. WELL, CAN, I'M JUST SAYING THE INCREMENTAL COST, IF IT WAS TWO SIDED, CAN IT SAY ON THE OTHER SIDE, PHILMONT SHORT. THANKS. YOU ON THE BACKSIDE WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING? NO. YOU JUST WANNA HAVE A BIG BLANK BACK? NO, THIS THE BACK. OH, THAT'S THE BACK. YEAH. OH, IS THAT THE OPTION? OH, OH, I DIDN'T, SO THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OPTION THAT HAS A STRUCTURAL POLE AT THE BACK, UM, WHICH STILL HAS SOME VISIBILITY FOR THE REAR PANEL. UM, BUT THERE'S THAT STRUCTURAL ELEMENT, RIGHT? UM, SO WE'VE JUST KIND OF LEFT IT THAT PAINTED SILVER, UM, TO MATCH THE, UH, YEAH. EDGES. BUT THE OTHER OPTION, THE SECOND OPTION ON PAGE 10, UM, DOES HAVE A GRAPHIC COMPONENT AS A PLACEHOLDER. UM, YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WE, WE LOVE, I LOVE ALL THE BURGERS. . NO, I'M SERIOUS. LIKE, I'M COOL WITH THAT. I JUST, THERE'LL BE LIKE ACTUAL LIFE, BUT LIKE, OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. THERE COULD BE A LITTLE TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT LIKE, BUT WHATEVER IT IS. THAT'S GREAT. I JUST DIDN'T WANNA SEE IF A BLANK BACK WE CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I, SO THIS THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE PRESENT NOW. MM-HMM. , IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED TO, UH, RECOMMEND IS THE BIRD GRAPHICS ON THE BACK. YEAH, WELL IT'S, UH, THE, THE TWO VERSIONS ARE ALSO DESIGNED ONE TO BE MORE ECONOMICAL, UM, THAN THE OTHER. I I REALIZED THAT THE GRAPHIC DESIGN IS MORE EXPENSIVE. IT'S, IT'S MORE, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN THE GRAPHIC DESIGN. UH, THE, THE CONSTRUCTABILITY OF THE SECOND VERSION HAS, UM, SOME KIND OF 3D ELEMENTS AS WELL ON THE FACE OF THE SIGN. WHAT ELEMENTS? 3D OH 3D. SO, UM, IT, IT, ONE, IT HAS AGAIN, THE STRUCTURE, THE, THE VERTICAL STRUCTURE LIVES WITHIN THE SAME CABINET. IT'S A LITTLE BIT WIDER. UM, AND AGAIN, HAS THOSE 3D ELEMENTS [00:45:01] AT THE FRONT AND THAT ALLOWS FOR A MORE FULL GRAPHIC, UH, ON THE BACK PANEL. UM, WHICH AGAIN, THE, WHEN THE MAIN DIFFERENCES WOULD BE THE COSTS, RIGHT? THAT THE FIRST OPTION, UM, IS A, IS A THINNER CABINET. UM, IT'S STILL INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED, UM, BUT THE VERTICAL SUPPORT COULD LIVE OUTSIDE OF IT AND, AND BE DONE, UM, IN THAT SIDE. SO OUR, OUR SIGNED SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS MET INDEPENDENTLY, UH, AND RECOMMENDED, UH, THE THE LADDER OKAY. WHICH IS THE FINISHED REAR PERFECT WITH THE GRAPHICS. GREAT. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SETTLE ON AND RECOMMEND AS THE FINISHED PRODUCT. EXCELLENT. UM, SO GIVEN THAT, UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S, THAT'S MISSING FROM THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS WOULD BE ANY KIND OF BIRD MITIGATION? UH, OR NOT MM-HMM. . SO I THINK THE OR NOT HAS RAMIFICATIONS AND THE HAVE, IT HAS FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT OPTIONS. MM-HMM. AND I DON'T REMEMBER THAT SETTLED ON THAT. WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IN THE DRAWINGS IS THE, UH, IT'S REFERRED TO AS THE DADDY LONG LEG, KIND OF A BIRD ABATEMENT SYSTEM. UM, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS, YOU KNOW, VISUAL, YOU CAN SEE IT. THE, THE SIGN IS, IS UP HIGH ENOUGH WHEN OBVIOUSLY THE CONCERN FOR CLEARANCE FROM THE GRADE, UM, FROM THE STREET. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU VIEW THE SIGN OR HOW YOU WERE APPROACHING IT, IT MAY OR NOT BE AS VISIBLE. UM, BUT THAT IS A SYSTEM I THINK THAT WAS CHOSEN. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO SPIKES, RIGHT. WHICH ARE COMMON OR THE, UM, KIND OF LOW VOLTAGE TYPE OF, OF A SYSTEM. YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT FINISHED ELEPHANT AS WELL. OKAY. EXCELLENT. SO WE ARE PARALLEL SOME CLOSE . EXCELLENT. UH, YES, I WAS GONNA SAY WITH THE, AND YOU FEEL THESE ARE, ARE EFFECTIVE THE DAY LONG LEGS? UH, YEAH, I THINK EACH, EACH SYSTEM HAS, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROS AND CONS. UM, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE ABOUT FINDING, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECT SIZE, MAKING SURE THAT THE SPACING AND THE ALLOTMENT A TOP, YOU KNOW, THAT PORTION OF THE CABINET IS, UM, IS SUFFICIENT. WHICH WE'VE TRIED TO, WE'VE TRIED TO SCALE THAT AND, AND SHOW IT AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND DO, DO THOSE NEED TO BE REPLACED? WERE THEY FOR LIGHT OR, UM, I THINK I, I THINK WE'D HAVE, I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE MANUFACTURER TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF WARRANTY. UM, BUT, BUT TYPICALLY NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WILL, THEY'LL LAST A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME. UM, BUT CAN, CAN BE REPLACED IF, IF DAMAGED OR, YOU KNOW, YEAH. THE PLASTIC DOES, DOES THIS, UM, DOES THIS INCLUDE, UM, ELECTRICAL CONDUIT RUNNING THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS TO THE SIDE OR IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL, YOU DID PROPOSAL? UH, THE OPTION TWO FOR EXAMPLE, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW THERE, THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL BOX FOR THE, THE STREET LIGHTS JUST, JUST ADJACENT TO THIS. DOES THIS INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIFYING THIS OR DO YOU, IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL COST? UM, I DON'T DO RECALL. SO YES, THIS WILL HAVE TO BE JOINED WITH LIKE A BID OR A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. OKAY. AND THAT'S GONNA BE DONE THROUGH THE CITY. THE CITY OF PUBLIC WORKS WILL, THE CITY OF PUBLIC WORKS WILL. GOT IT. GOT IT. THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO, UH, COMMITTEE, I THINK YOU DID A GOOD, A REALLY GOOD JOB. I LIKE THE NEW, THE WAY THE POLE IS. 'CAUSE THE, FROM LIKE THE ORIGINAL THING, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT LOOKS CLEAN, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, IT IDENTIFIES THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT JUST, IT'S, UM, I, I, I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE EFFORT YOU PUT INTO IT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'LL TELL YOU JUST FOR, UH, THE REASON, UH, WE GOT SUCH GOOD RESULTS FROM DISCUSSING THIS FOR RUNS AND RUNS, RIGHT? HOFFMAN, OUR PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCE BUILDING DIFFERENT THINGS IN OUR LINE OF WORK, BUT RYAN'S, THAT WAS HIS, HIS SPECIFIC WICK AND HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF SOME THE DETAILS THAT WE COULD TAKE AND REFINE THE SILVER PERKINS. SO FEASIBILITY, UH, IS SILVER PERKINS NOW DONE OR CLOSE TO? THIS IS A FINISHED READY TO, TO PUSH FORWARD FOR COMPLETION. UM, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT? YES, I BELIEVE ON OUR END. WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO GO. OKAY. SO NEXT STEP, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT QUESTION REAL QUICK. SO NEXT STEP IS PUBLIC WORKS. NEXT STEP IS PUBLIC. PUBLIC WORKS. THE SIGN'S GONNA NEED TO [00:50:01] BE, UH, ASSEMBLED AND FABRICATED. AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, ASSIGNING A JOB ORDER CONTRACT A, A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT AND CREATING FINALIZING CONSTRUCTION PLANS, UM, COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. THEN AFTER THAT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A FINAL INSPECTION ONCE EVERYTHING'S INSTALLED. AND THE CONCRETE'S IN THERE, IT'S GONNA BE AN ESTIMATED EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS FROM START TO FINISH, GIVE OR GIVE OR TAKE ANY KIND OF ISSUES THAT COME UP. OKAY. SO, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY NINE MONTHS. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. UNDERSTAND IT. UM, UNDERSTAND THE, THE DESIGN ELEMENT, UNDERSTAND THE, THE PROTOCOLS FOR THE SINKING IT IN THE GROUND. YEAH, BUT HERE'S THE, THE BIG QUESTION. UM, WE ARE GOING TO THIS, THIS COMMISSION, UH, IS GONNA RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT THE WAY IT SITS TO CITY COUNCIL. UH, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NO WAY OF ANSWERING REALLY THIS QUESTION BEING, UH, ARE WE APPROVED CONCEPTUALLY BUDGET WISE FOR THIS? IS THAT ALREADY OCCURRED OR ARE WE STILL AT THE PHASE WHERE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE FOR THIS PROJECT? WE WILL NEED, WE WILL NEED TO, UH, YEAH, WE'LL, SO THE, THE, THE EXPENDITURE HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET. OKAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE FINAL EXPENSE BASED ON SILVER PERKINS, UH, ESTIMATE AND THE ESTIMATE FROM PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THAT GOES AHEAD OF ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. UM, WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT AND BUDGETED FOR IT INTERNALLY. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, UH, WE'VE BEATEN IT ON ITS LITTLE HEAD AND WE KNOW THAT PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION IS, UH, CERTAINLY RATE INCREASES ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER PROJECT THAT WE DO. UH, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE WERE VERY CAREFUL TO SUBMIT THIS TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE DESIGN OF IT. UM, AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT FOR, UH, I, I MEAN SAY MONTHS AND MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR YEARS, UH, AT THIS POINT. AND I HOPE, UM, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, UH, THAT WHAT WE SEND TO CITY COUNCIL IS RECEIVED WELL. UH, AND IT ULTIMATELY, UH, IS APPROVED. 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. WE ALL THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. A LOT OF WORK IS GONE INTO IT. IT'S A GREAT DESIGN. UH, SO I APPRECIATE THAT REPORT. UH, THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, DO WE FORMALLY RECOMMEND OPTION TWO AS PART OF THIS MOTION? UM, 'CAUSE THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS ON HERE AND I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ONE DOUBLE SIDED ONE. YES, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, BUT IT IS, IT IS WORTH IT. AND WE'RE DOING IT ONE TIME. WE'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT AND HOPEFULLY IT'S, IT'S THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFIES OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT A HUNDRED YEARS. SO AGREED. SO YES, WE'RE, WE'RE COMMENDING TWO, OPTION TWO. OKAY. WE NEED A SECOND PLEASE. ONE MORE COMMENT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK MY FELLOW SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER AND NOT HERE. WE, WE THINK WE'RE ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ALL LEARN. SO IT'S BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU FOR WORKING SO FAR. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. UH, WE NEED A SECOND PLEASE. SECOND, OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SIGN. I'D LIKE TO BRING UP A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP. WHETHER THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY OF MONT SURE WAS HERE AND YOU WERE ALL LISTENING. UM, THIS SIDE, IF YOU COME OVER THE BRIDGE, WHAT YOU SEE IS E AND BAY. 'CAUSE THIS SIDE COMPETES WITH THAT SIGN MORE THAN ANYTHING. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ALL THE DIRECTION SIGNS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING $420,000. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. AND THE SIGN YOU CHOSEN IS BASICALLY A REPLAY OF THE EXISTING WOODEN SIGNS WE HAVE. AND YOU KNOW, IF IT'S THE SORT OF, I THINK YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE ASKED TO DO, BUT IF WE JUST SENT THAT ONE SIGN OUT TO A CARPENTER, IT PROBABLY COST WHAT, $5,000 TO REPLICATE THE EXISTING SIGN IN THE EXISTING LOCATION. UM, AND AGAIN, NO OFFENSE, BUT AT THE ONE OF THE RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS, THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTION ABOUT HIRING A FIRM OUTSIDE OF LONG BEACH FOR A PROJECT. AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT CONSIDERATION THAT WAS GIVEN. SO I REALIZED THAT COMMISSION IS SET TO PROOF THIS, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND I SHOULD, SHOULD, THAT DIDN'T WORK CLOSELY. I [00:55:01] CONSIDERED, I THINK. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH BILLY. NOTED. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, THANK YOU FOLKS. I NEED A, UH, I NEED TO APPROVE THIS FINAL VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR AGENDA, UH, SO WE CAN OPEN UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT YOU SO CHOOSE. UM, MELISSA, I PASSED, UH, BLUE WINDOWS TODAY AND WE HAVE A SIGN OUT FRONT AWARDED PEOPLE ABOUT THE BRICKS THAT ARE MUCH LOWER THAN THE CONCRETE. UH, A FRIEND OF MINE TRIPPED ON ONE OF THOSE WHO BROKE HER HIP SOME YEARS AGO. SO IT'S REALLY A DANGEROUS SITUATION. I JUST SAW THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS RUNNING, SO THEY MUST HAVE HAD SOME COMPLAINT. SO I REALLY RECOMMEND THAT, THAT SOMEBODY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY GOES OUT THERE AND LOOKS AT THAT AND HAS THOSE BRICKS RELOAD. 'CAUSE THEY NEED TO BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE SIDEWALK. UH, IT CAN BE A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION. AGREE. UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT IF I CAN. SURE. UM, I WANT TO THANK LINDA FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. 'CAUSE I SAW SOMEONE REALLY WIPE OUT. 'CAUSE THERE'S ALSO BETWEEN LIKE WHERE BETWEEN AND LEGENDS, THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER SPOT WHERE BARRY AND SOMEONE PUT RED TAPE. AND I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN ASKING THE CITY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TO, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE ATTENTION THAT IT WARRANTS. AND I, PEOPLE ARE GETTING HURT OUT THERE. IT IS NOT THE, IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME. I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT'S GETTING WORSE. AND SO I, IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO RAISE THE ATTENTION TO THAT, BECAUSE LIKE IF WE JUST ASK FOLKS WE TO TAKE A LOOK AND MAYBE THEY SEND A GRINDING TEAM DOWN TO, WELL RUN THOSE SPOTS. I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS A FEW INCHES. IF YOU RUN IT DOWN, THERE'S GONNA BE NO CONCRETE SLAB LEFT. SO IT ALSO KIND OF TIES INTO THE TREE ISSUE BECAUSE IT KNOWS, IT HAPPENS AROUND AREAS WHERE THERE'S TREES. SO IT COULD BE A ROOT PUSHING UP KIND OF A THING. BUT I THINK, UH, AN ASSESSMENT, BUT IT'D BE EASIER TO, TO PULL UP THE PAVERS AND BRING THE BRICKS UP A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, WELL WE, WE, WE MADE IT CLEAR AND I THINK, UH, STAFF IS GONNA TAKE THAT TO THE CITY AND, UH, WITHOUT BEING, UH, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE WE CAN DO OTHER THAN HERE. SO, SO WE CAN OFFICIALLY GET THAT ON THE AGENDA TO, TO LOOK AT, UH, UM, I CAN DO THAT AT THE NEXT SETUP AND I CAN TAKE A NOTE AND ADD THAT. SURE. YEAH, BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW WE'VE ASKED THE CITY ABOUT IT TOO, AND IT IS ACTUALLY PEOPLE ARE GETTING HURT. ABSOLUTELY. SO, UM, AND IT'S GETTING WORSE. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ADD THAT TO AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH AT THE 78. THANKS MATT. YOU BET. UH, ANY OTHER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? HEATHER, PLEASE JUST ADD THE BSBA HAS WALKED THIS THE ENTIRE ROUTE WITH SOMEONE, UH, FROM THE ACCESSIBILITY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THESE. THEY WERE ALL RECORDED AND WE'VE ALSO SENT EMAILS TO HOW IT WORKS. AND SO WE HAVE DONE OUR, OUR BEST, BUT , LITERALLY. OKAY. UH, ANYTHING ELSE FOLKS? UH, WE'VE MOVED TO ADJOURN. MOTION. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT JOB, BRIAN. THANKS. THAT WAS GOOD. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.