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I JUST HAD A SMALL, YOU DIDN'T SAY NOTHING TO LOVE
[CALL TO ORDER]
IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU TODAY.WELCOME TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING, JULY 31ST, 2024.
AND, UH, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
CHRISTINA? YES, UH, PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON.
[ROLL CALL]
LOVE HERE.UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE MEETING IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND IF I COULD ASK MR. RUSS THICKER FROM HR TO LEAD US IN THAT PLEDGE, AND I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
IT'S A MOMENT WHERE WE COME TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION ON AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Civil Service Commission on agenda items. ]
WANTS TO COME FORWARD? ALL RIGHT.UM, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WISH TO PULL TO DISCUSS? ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE? ITEM NUMBER ONE IS PULLED.
CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT? THANK YOU.
[CONSENT CALENDAR (1. – 6.)]
ARE YOU WAITING FOR ME? UH, COMMISSIONERS AS AND LOVE.CAN WE GET, I HAVE A QUESTION.
DID WE PULL ITEM? DON'T WANT THAT.
ARE WE VOTING ON THAT? NO, YOU'RE VOTING ON THE CONSENT TWO THROUGH SIX.
SO WE'RE VOTING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE ONE AFTERWARDS.
DID YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE PULLED? NO.
ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, MOVE TO ITEM ONE.
I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO AIRPORT OPERATIONS SPECIALIST.
SO I SEE, I KNOW THESE ARE EXAM RESULTS.
[1. 24-54328 Recommendation to approve examination results. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
UM, DO WE HAVE DISPOSITIONS ON THE TEST FROM JANUARY AND APRIL? YOUR QUESTION? OH, THERE, IT'S, UM, YES, WE DO HAVE DISPOSITIONS.UM, I DON'T HAVE THE ONES AVAILABLE FOR JANUARY, BUT I CAN GET THOSE TO YOU.
I DO SEE THAT ONE WAS SELECTED FROM THE JANUARY EXAM, BUT VERY GOOD.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, ON THE PARK NATURALIST, LET ME FIND THAT.
SO PARK NATURALIST, UH, THE OPEN NON-COMPETITIVE CONTINUOUS.
I'VE JUST DOUBLE CHECKING THE DATES.
WE HAVE 6 20, 24, 7, 3 24 AND 2 28, 24.
IS IT, ARE THE TWO TOP ONES CORRECT FOR 24? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
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I BELIEVE.SO, UM, LET'S NOTE THAT CHANGE TO PARK NATURALIST OPEN NON-COMPETITIVE CONTINUOUS, THE DATE OF FEBRUARY 28TH, 2024.
OH SEVEN 17, APOLOGIES OF WHAT, I'M SORRY.
THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR TEST THREE WAS 7 17 24.
SO THE DATES, UM, FOR TEST THREE WOULD BE 7 17 24.
DOES THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAVE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS? OKAY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE NOTED CHANGES.
SO I'LL MOVE, OH, I GUESS WE DO
I THINK IF COMMISSIONER, VICE PRESIDENT, OSUNA AND I, UH, AMEND OUR MOTION, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.
I AM, I'M AGREED WITH THAT AS THE SECOND.
ARE YOU AGREED WITH THAT AS THE MOVER? I AGREE.
WE CAN PROCEED TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, WE STILL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA.
AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 17TH.
CAN I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND? COMMISSIONERS,
[7. 24-54332 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Civil Service Commission Meeting of July 17, 2024. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? OKAY, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE BULLETIN PAYROLL PERSONNEL ASSISTANT ONE THROUGH THREE.
YES, AND YOU HAVE STEVEN ROBLES PRESENTING THIS MORNING.
THE PAYROLL PERSONNEL ASSISTANT EXAMINATION
[8. 24-54334 Recommendation to approve bulletin – Payroll/Personnel Assistant I-III. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
WAS LAST ADMINISTERED AS A CONTINUOUS OPEN COMPETITIVE OPPORTUNITY IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 FROM JANUARY 6, 23 TO FEBRUARY 17TH, 23.AT THAT TIME, 143 CANDIDATES APPLIED AND 50 QUALIFIED TWO ELIGIBLE LISTS WERE ESTABLISHED ON 3 1 23 AND 3 15 23, WHICH EXPIRED ON 4 10 24 AND 3 14 24.
THE TWO LISTS WERE REFERRED TO 17 REQUISITIONS FROM SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.
UH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FIRE, POLICE, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION, CIVIL SERVICE, PUBLIC WORKS, HARBOR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND PARKS, RECREATION AND MARINE DEPARTMENT.
AND 16 SELECTIONS WERE MADE FROM THOSE TWO ISTS ELIGIBLE LISTS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY FIVE VACANCIES AND THREE DEPARTMENTS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE AND TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.
PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BULLETIN INCLUDE FILING DATES AND SALARY INFORMATION, REMOVAL OF COVID COVID-19 VACCINATION LANGUAGE, THE ADDITION OF AIRPORT BACKGROUND LANGUAGE, THE REMOVAL OF APPRAISAL INTERVIEW TO WAIT THE WRITTEN EXAM AT 100%.
THE ADDITION OF SELECTION, PROCEDURE LANGUAGE, THE ADDITION OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION LANGUAGE.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE EXAMINATION, THE EXAMINATION WEIGHTS BE CHANGED TO ELIMINATE THE APPRAISAL INTERVIEW WITH THE APPLICATION AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION AS QUALIFYING AND THE WRITTEN EXAMINATION WEIGHTED AT 100% AND TO HAVE AN INITIAL FILING PERIOD OF FOUR WEEKS FROM AUGUST 2ND TO AUGUST 30TH, 2024.
UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE USER DEPARTMENTS ARE PRESENT TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE BULLETIN FOR SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER.
AND YOU HAVE LAURA BA MAKING A PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.
[9. 24-54335 Recommendation to approve bulletin – Senior Civil Engineer. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
UH, THE SENIORS,[00:10:01]
THE SENIOR CIVILS ENGINEER EXAMINATION WAS LAST ADMINISTERED AS AN OPEN NON-COMPETITIVE EXAM ON 3 18 22 TO 7 8 22 AT THE TIME, 41 CANDIDATES APPLY AND 39 QUALIFIED THREE ELIGIBLE LISTS WERE ESTABLISHED IN APRIL, 2022 THROUGH AUGUST, 2024.THE FIRST ELIGIBLE LIST WAS REFERRED ON 4 27 27 20 22 TO MULTIPLE HARBOR AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT REQUISITIONS.
10 SELECTIONS WERE MADE FROM THE ELIGIBLE LIST THAT EXPIRED IN IN APRIL AND MAY AND 2024.
THERE ARE THREE CURRENT SIX VA THERE.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIX VACANCIES ACROSS THREE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, HARVARD AND PUBLIC WORKS.
PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SENIOR CIVIL SERV CIVIL ENGINEER ABILITY INCLUDE FILING DATE AND SALARY INFORMATION, UPDATED VACANCY INFORMATION, UPDATED DESIRABLE QUALIFICATIONS, ADDED EQUITY AND INCLUSION LANGUAGE.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE EXAMINATION WEIGHTS REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE APPLICATION AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION WEIGHED AS QUALIFYING AND AT THE INITIAL APPLICATION FILING PERIOD BE TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS FROM AUGUST 2ND THROUGH AUGUST 16TH, 2024.
A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HARBOR DEPARTMENT IS PRESENT TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ITEM 10, YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE BULLETIN FOR SENIOR LIBRARIANS.
AND THIS MORNING, TIFFANY JAMES WILL PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION.
THE EXAMINATION FOR SENIOR LIBRARIAN WAS LAST ADMINISTERED AS AN OPEN COMPETITIVE
[10. 24-54337 Recommendation to approve bulletin – Senior Librarian. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
EXAM OPPORTUNITY IN FISCAL YEAR 23 FROM OCTOBER 14TH, 22 TO FEBRUARY 24TH, 2023.AT THAT TIME, 39 CANDIDATES APPLIED AND 19 QUALIFIED THREE ELIGIBLE LISTS WAS ESTABLISHED IN DECEMBER OF 2022 THROUGH APRIL, 2024.
THIS LIST WAS REFERRED TO MULTIPLE REQUISITIONS FROM THE LIBRARY DEPARTMENT.
SEVEN SELECTIONS WERE MADE FROM THE ELIGIBLE LISTS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO VACANCIES AND LIBRARY RECEIVED IN CIVIL SERVICE IN MAY OF 2024.
PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LIBRARY, UH, I'M SORRY, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SENIOR CLERK, SENIOR LIBRARIAN BULLETIN ARE FOULING DATE AND SALARY INFORMATION REMOVAL OF COVID-19 LANGUAGE ADDED VETERANS LANGUAGE.
UM, ADDED EQUITY AND INCLUSION LANGUAGE.
STAFF RECOMMEND THAT THE EXAMINATION WAITS INCLUDE AN APPRAISAL INTERVIEW WEIGHTED A HUNDRED PERCENT AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION AND AN APPLICATION FILING PERIOD OF FOUR WEEKS FROM AUGUST 2ND, 2024 TO AUGUST 30TH, 2024.
A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LIBRARY DEPARTMENT IS PRESENT TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
ITEM 11, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE BULLETIN FOR SYSTEM SUPPORT SPECIALISTS.
ONE THROUGH FIVE, I'M SORRY, SIX AND LAURA'S BACK.
THE SYSTEM SUPPORT SPECIALIST ONE THROUGH SIX EXAMINATION WAS LAST ADMINISTERED AS AN OPEN NON-COMPETITIVE
[11. 24-54338 Recommendation to approve bulletin – Systems Support Specialist I-VI. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
EXAM FROM MAY 13TH, 2022.AT THE TIME, 6 89 CANDIDATES APPLIED IN 70 QUALIFIED.
ONE ELIGIBLE LIST WAS ESTABLISHED ON JUNE 22ND, 2022, AND REFERRED TO MULTIPLE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT REQUISITIONS ON JULY 7TH, 2022.
ELECTIONS WERE MADE FROM THE ELIGIBLE LIST THAT EXPIRE ON MARCH 21ST, 2024.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE VACANCIES IN THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.
PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SYSTEM SUPPORT SPECIALIST ONE THROUGH SIX BULLETIN INCLUDE FILING THE DATE AND SALARY INFORMATION, UPDATES TO THE BACKGROUND LANGUAGE, THE ADDITION OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION LANGUAGE.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE EXAMINATION WAITS REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE APPLICATION AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION WAIT AS QUALIFYING.
AND THAT THE INITIAL APPLICATION FILING PERIOD BE TWO WEEKS FROM AUGUST 2ND THROUGH AUGUST 16TH, 2024.
A TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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MOTION CARRIES ITEM 12, RECOMMENDATION[12. 24-54339 Recommendation to approve bulletin – Transportation Planner I-IV. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
TO APPROVE BULLETIN FOR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER ONE THROUGH FOUR.WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE SYSTEM.
OKAY, THEN YEAH, WE CAN PROCEED.
AND STEPHANIE HERRA WILL BE PRESENTING THIS MORNING.
UM, TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, GRADES ONE THROUGH FOUR EXAMINATION WAS LAST AS ADMINISTERED AS A NON-COMPETITIVE OPPORTUNITY IN FISCAL YEAR 2020.
UM, FROM DECEMBER 6TH, 2019 TO DECEMBER 20TH, 2019, WE HAD 20 CANDIDATES WHO APPLIED AT THAT TIME.
I'M SORRY, WE HAD 80 CANDIDATES WHO APPLIED AT THAT TIME AND 48 QUALIFIED.
WE ESTABLISHED ONE ELIGIBLE LIST, UM, ON JANUARY 16TH, 2020.
AND THAT EXPIRED JANUARY 15TH, 2023.
THE LIST WAS REFERRED TO THREE REQUISITIONS AND THREE SELECTIONS WERE MADE FROM THE ELIGIBLE LIST.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO VACANCIES IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT WERE RECEIVED IN THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT ON JULY 10TH, 2024.
THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BULLETIN INCLUDE THE FILING DATES AND SALARY INFORMATION, AND THEN THE ADDITION OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION LANGUAGE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE EXAMINATION WAIT, REMAIN THE SAME WITH A QUALIFYING APPLICATION, SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION, AND AN INITIAL FILING WEEK, UH, FILING PERIOD OF TWO WEEKS FROM AUGUST 2ND TO AUGUST 6 16, 20 24.
UH, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS, UM, TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AND THANK YOU.
THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE DENIAL TO FILE A LATE APPLICATION FOR CC BETS REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR, ONE THROUGH THREE.
AND YOU HAVE TIFFANY JANES PREPARED THE STAFF REPORT.
[13. 24-54346 Recommendation to approve the denial to file late application for Suzy Betz, Real Estate Project Coordinator I-III. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
YOU.CORRESPONDENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM SUSIE BETS, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST LONG BEACH AIRPORT DEPARTMENT, REQUESTING CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION APPROVAL TO FILE A LATE APPLICATION FOR THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR.
EXAMINATION MS. BETS ASSERTS THAT SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF SUBMITTING HER APPLICATION DURING THE FOLLOWING PERIOD FOR THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR ONE THROUGH THREE WHEN SHE EXPERIENCED TECHNICAL ISSUES.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE TWO, SECTION SIX OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATION AND POLICY 1.05 OF THE CIVIL SERVICE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND PRESENTS THE FOLLOWING FACTS FOR CONSIDERATION.
ON JUNE 19TH, 2024, THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION APPROVED THE JOB OPPORTUNITY BULLETIN FOR THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR ONE THROUGH THREE.
THE JOB OPPORTUNITY WAS ADVERTISED AS AN OPEN COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION AND HAD A FILING PERIOD OF JUNE 21ST, 2024 THROUGH JULY 5TH, 2024 AT 4:30 PM DURING THE FILING PERIOD, 34 APPLICATIONS WERE FILED FOR THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR.
ONE THROUGH THREE 16, APPLICANTS MET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS AND WERE INVITED TO THE APPRAISAL EXAMINATION, WHICH WAS ADMINISTERED ON JULY 18TH, 2024 THROUGH JULY 19TH, 2024.
PENDING THE RESULTS OF THOSE WHO TESTED AND SUCCESSFULLY PASSED WILL BE PLACED ON THE ELIGIBLE LIST ANTICIPATED FOR AUGUST 14TH, 2024 ON JULY 5TH, 2024, AT 4:51 PM MS. BETS COMMUNICATED TO THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT DEPARTMENT VIA EMAIL THAT SHE WAS UNABLE TO SUBMIT HER APPLICATION ON JULY 8TH, 2024 AT 7:31 AM MELISSA, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER FROM LONG BEACH AIRPORT FORWARDED MS. BET'S EMAIL TO TIFFANY JAMES PERSONNEL ANALYST CIVIL SERVICE ON JULY 8TH, 2024 AT 4:41 PM MS. BETS INFORMED OF CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION WAS INFORMED OF CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION POLICY 1.05 VIA EMAIL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO APPROVE A REQUEST FILING A LATE APPLICATION AND THE PROCESS OF HAVING HER REQUEST PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
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MS. BETS EMAILED A LETTER TO CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION REQUESTING CONSIDERATION TO FILE A LEAD APPLICATION FOR REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR ONE THROUGH THREE.DUE TO THE SYSTEM BEING TIMED OUT ON JULY 11TH, 2024, CIVIL SERVICE STAFF CONTACTED NEIL GOV TO SEE IF THERE IF TO SEE IF THE SYSTEM EXPERIENCED ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES.
ON JULY 5TH, 2024, NEIL GOV CONFIRMED THERE WERE NO SYSTEM ISSUES.
THE LATEST APPLICATION RECEIVED FOR REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR ONE THROUGH THREE WAS ON JULY 5TH, 2024 AT 3:31 PM ON JULY 12TH, 2024.
SERVICE CIVIL SERVICE STAFF AGAIN MET WITH NEIL GOV TO VERIFY WHETHER THERE WAS AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION FOR MS BETS FOR THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT COORDINATOR.
NEIL GOV INDICATED THAT THERE WAS NO INCOMPLETE APPLICATION ON FILE FOR MS. BETS AND INDICATED THAT ONCE AN APPLICATION BE ONCE AN APPLICANT BEGINS THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND MOVES ON TO THE NEXT SECTION FOLLOWING THE CONTACT INFORMATION, THE APPLICATION WILL BE SAVED AS AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION IF NOT SUBMITTED.
ADDITIONALLY, IF AN INCOMPLETE, IF AN APPLICATION IS AN IN AN INCOMPLETE STATUS AND THE APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED DURING THE FILING PERIOD, NEIL GOV WILL SEND AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION IN 24 HOUR INCREMENTS.
RECOMMENDATION, THIS REQUEST FALLS UNDER CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATION.
ARTICLE TWO, SECTION SIX REGARDING LATE APPLICATION CLEARLY STATES THAT THE COMMISSION MAY REFUSE TO EXAM OR AFTER AN EXAMINATION MAY REMOVE FROM ANY ELIGIBLE LIST, DISQUALIFY AND OR REFUSE TO CERTIFY ANY PERSON WHO FAILS TO SUBMIT A COMPLETED APPLICATION AND OR RELATED SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTS TO THE CIVIL SERVICE OFFICE ON OR BEFORE EXAMINATION ANNOUNCEMENTS ESTABLISHED CLOSING DATE AND CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION POLICY 1.05 WHICH CLEARLY STATES THAT THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MAY CONSIDER A LATE APPLICATION DUE TO THE DEATH OF AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER, A CATASTROPHIC, NATURAL, NATURAL DISASTER, OR AN ERROR BY CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT STAFF.
THE REQUEST FOR MS. BETS DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA TO ALLOW A LATE, LATE APPLICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
ARTICLE TWO, SECTION SIX AND CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION POLICY 1.05.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST.
MS. BETS HAS BEEN INFORMED OF THIS REQUEST IS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THE SCREENING OF HER APPLICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE APPRAISAL EXAMINATION PENDING THE COMMISSION'S DECISION.
IS MS. BETS IN THE AUDIENCE? DID YOU WANT TO BE HEARD, MA'AM? GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING COMMISSION AND THANK YOU MS. JAMES FOR THAT REPORT.
UM, I'D JUST LIKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PAINT SOME COLOR TO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD, UM, 'CAUSE IT DID SOUND VERY BLACK AND WHITE.
SO I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY NOW FOR NINE YEARS, FIVE YEARS AT THE AIRPORT.
AND I'M GOING ON, I'M PROUD TO SAY MY 30TH YEAR OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
SO, UM, I STARTED BACK IN COLLEGE AS AN INTERN WITH A LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
I SPENT 12 YEARS AS A CRIME AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST.
AND WITH THAT I'VE HAD EXTENSIVE COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND.
I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER AS A SUPER USER.
I'VE, UM, BEEN A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH TECH.
WHENEVER THERE'S AN ERROR, WE'VE, THEY USED TO COME TO THE OFFICE IN THE OLD DAYS AND YOU'D REMOVE FROM YOUR COMPUTER AND THEN THEY WOULD FIX IT.
NOW THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOTE IN.
BUT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER TO SEE WHERE THE ERROR IS, WHAT OCCURRED THAT DAY WHEN I WAS USING, AND I'VE USED NEO GOV NOW FOR 20 YEARS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CLOUD-BASED PLATFORM.
IT'S AN SAS, UM, PLATFORM THAT IT'S BASED ON.
AND SO NEO GOV, WHAT IT DOES IS IT TIMES OUT AND IT GIVES YOU A BANNER WHEN IT TIMES OUT.
I WAS ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM THAT DAY.
WHEN I WAS FILLING OUT MY APPLICATION, IT WENT AWAY.
I LOGGED BACK IN TO GO BACK TO WHERE I WAS.
I WAS IN STEP NINE ALL AT THE TIME.
WHEN IT LOGGED OUT, I WAS REVIEWING MY APPLICATION.
THE APPLICATION PERIOD WAS STILL OPEN.
WHEN I, WHEN IT LOGGED ME OUT, I WENT BACK IN TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, NOTHING WAS MISSING.
THAT ALL OF MY WORK WAS STILL THERE AND IT WAS SAVED.
AND I WAS GETTING READY TO CERTIFY AND SUBMIT.
WHEN I HIT, CERTIFY AND SUBMIT, I ENCOUNTERED A SECOND ERROR APPLICATION.
IT WOULDN'T ALLOW ME TO ADVANCE.
I COULDN'T, UM, COULDN'T MOVE ON FROM THAT.
TO HIT THAT LAST PART OF IT, I CONTACTED MY SUPERVISOR.
WE'RE NOW PROBABLY AT THAT 4 29, 4 30 MARK CONTACTED
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MY SUPERVISOR, TOLD HER WHAT OCCURRED.SHE SAID, CONTACT THE HELP NUMBER THAT'S LISTED ON THERE ON THE APPLICATION.
NOBODY FROM CIVIL SERVICE, UM, OR HR, WHOEVER SHOULD BE ON THAT, ANSWERED THE PHONE.
THAT WAS JULY 5TH WHEN THAT CLOSED.
I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WAS STAFF THAT DAY BECAUSE IT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
I DON'T KNOW WHY NOBODY ANSWERED THE PHONE AT FOUR O'CLOCK, FOUR THIRTY, FIVE O'CLOCK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CUTOUT IS.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT STAFF SHOULD BE AVAILABLE WHEN, UM, AN UM, A JOB LIKE THIS IS CLOSING.
IN CASE OF TECHNICAL ISSUES BEYOND THAT FOUR 30 MOMENT, UM, I WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CONTACT STAFF TO TELL THEM IMMEDIATELY SO THEY COULD TIMESTAMP AND THEY COULD GO BACK TO NEO GOV TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS TOUCHPOINT TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND THAT GOES BACK TO MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ATTACKS, EXCUSE ME, OF ERRORS OR WHAT THEY CALL AS TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN UNDEFINED HERE FROM NEO GOV.
NEO GOV HAS NOT DEFINED TECHNICAL ISSUES.
TECHNICAL ISSUES CAN BE ANYTHING FROM A CYBER ATTACK LIKE WHAT LONG BEACH EXPERIENCED EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES PORTAL.
IT COULD BE A, UM, FAULTY UPDATE SUCH AS WHAT WENT ON WITH CROWDSTRIKE.
AND THEN THERE COULD BE BUGS AND JUST VULNERABILITIES THAT REALLY ARE JUST BLIPS IN THE RADAR.
THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'VE BEEN ON YOUR MICROSOFT WORD OR EXCEL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WENT AWAY AND THEN YOU WENT BACK TO IT AND IT'S GONE.
THOSE DON'T GET REPORTED IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS TO THESE BIG PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S WHAT I EXPERIENCED THAT DAY.
TRUST ME WHEN I SAY I WOULD NOT BE HERE BEFORE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME OR THIS DISRESPECTING THIS PROCESS IN ANY WAY, IF I DIDN'T SAY WHAT I KNOW TO BE TRUE, THAT THIS IS WHAT OCCURRED THAT DAY.
AND I'M ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THEY SAY THAT, UM, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY SAID THERE COULDN'T FIND, LOCATE AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION.
MY APPLICATION HAS BEEN UP THERE.
I HAVE AN EXISTING APPLICATION.
WHAT I WENT AND DONE WAS PULL DOWN THE APPLICATION AND THE QUESTIONS AND PRE-FILLED THOSE OUT THAT DAY.
ALL I NEEDED TO DO WAS UPDATE MY PROFILE, ADD THE QUESTIONS, AND UM, AND THEN HIT SUBMIT.
SO THERE WAS NO PRE 24 HOUR PERIOD FOR THAT TO TURN OVER TO SEND ME AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION NOTICE.
HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THIS, IF THEY HAD DONE SOME DATA MINING ON MY PROFILE, THEY WOULD'VE SEEN THAT DAY THAT I CHANGED MY INFORMATION TAB UNDER THE OBJECTIVES.
I CHANGED MY WORK TAB WORK EXPERIENCES TO I INDENT THEM IN I ON THE ADDITIONAL TAB.
UM, I UPDATED SOME VOLUNTEER EXPERIENCE AND I ALSO ON ATTACHMENTS UPLOADED MY MASTER'S DEGREE.
SO NEO GOV DID NOT GO BACK DATA MINE DEEP ENOUGH TO SEE THAT I WAS ACTUALLY IN, I DID HAVE AN EXISTING APPLICATION AND ALL OF THAT WHEN I WENT AND CHECKED 24 HOURS AGO WAS STILL THERE.
SO JUST THE FACT THAT IT DIDN'T TURN OVER TO AN APPLICATION, THERE IS STILL AN ELECTRONIC FOOTPRINT TO SAY THAT I WAS IN THERE THAT DAY SUPPORTING WHAT I HAD DONE.
BUT IT GOES TO WHAT I'M SAYING, WHICH IS THERE WAS A GLITCH AND IT STARTED WITH THE SYSTEM TIMING OUT, UM, ERRATICALLY WITHOUT, UM, PUTTING UP THAT 20 THAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO TIME OUT AND ALLOWING THE USER TO CLICK ON IT.
AND THEN WHEN THE SECOND TIME WHEN I WENT IN, IT DELETED MY APPLICATION.
AND SO, AS WE KNOW, I'M SURE EVERYBODY HERE HAS HAD THAT WHERE YOUR WORD DOCUMENT AND YOUR EXCEL DOCUMENT HAS GONE AWAY FROM A GLITCH.
SO RESPECTFULLY, I AM ASKING YOU TO, UM, RECONSIDER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND ALLOW FOR MY, UM, SUBMITTAL OF MY, MY CONTINUED SUBMITTAL OF WHAT I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING BEFORE THE SYSTEM TIED OUT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU FOR COMING, COMMISSIONERS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, SIR? THANK YOU.
UM, SO YOU SAID PRIOR TO THE CLOSING DATE YOU HAD CONTACTED YOUR SUPERVISOR AND NOTIFIED THAT PERSON OF THE ERROR.
CORRECT? AS SOON AS I COULDN'T SUBMIT, THEN I WAS CALLING, CALLING MY SUPERVISOR WHAT TO DO.
SO WE HAVE A, ESSENTIALLY A REAL TIME CONFIRMATION OF CORRECT.
SO THAT 4 51 TIME THAT MS. JAMES MENTIONED WAS ABOUT STEP SIX IN THIS PROCESS.
DID YOU, UM, THE QUESTIONS GO AHEAD.
I I MIGHT REVISE MY MOTION TO DENY THE DENIAL.
IS THERE ANY OTHER CONVERSATION, DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? WELL, I NEED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
SO WE WON'T VOTE ON THE DENIAL.
HE WOULD CHANGE THE MOTION TO DENY THE DENIAL IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT.
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I WANNA GET INTO CHANGING MOTIONS, WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IS DISCUSSION.IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONS HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO MAKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY MOTIONS? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
NO, I DON'T, NO, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
COMMISSIONER GARGER? NO QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? I, I HAVE QUESTIONS.
DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO.
SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANNA ASK.
UM, THE FILING PERIOD FOR THIS APPLICATION WAS FROM SIX 19 TO SEVEN FIVE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND THE CLOSING TIME WAS AT FOUR 30? YES.
IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T SUBMIT THIS EARLIER? WHY YOU BACKED YOURSELF ALL THE WAY UP TO FOUR 30? IT WASN'T ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY UP TO FOUR 30, SO I HAD BEEN WORKING ON THE APPLICATION.
UM, WHEN DID YOU HIT SUBMIT? IT WAS WITHIN THAT PERIOD ABOUT, I, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN FOUR 20 AND BEFORE THAT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT TIME.
YOU TRIED TO SUBMIT IT FOUR 20 MM-HMM,
AND THEN YOU SAID THAT YOU WENT TO YOUR SUPERVISOR AT WHAT TIME? OH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, THE, I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TIME YOU WENT TO YOUR SUPERVISOR.
YEAH, I, I'M NOT GOING, I CAN'T GO ON RECORD SAYING EXACTLY WHAT TIME 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I I THOUGHT THAT, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU WENT TO YOUR SUPERVISOR AT FOUR 30 TO SAY THAT YOUR APPLICATION WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T GO IN BECAUSE CORRECT UP, CORRECT.
YOU SAID WHEN YOU SAID EXACT TIME, HOLD ON, ON, SO I DIDN'T KNOW.
SO 4 51 DOESN'T SOUND ACCURATE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT WASN'T 4 51.
I ACTUALLY SAID TO MY SUPERVISOR AT FOUR 30 THAT I COULD NOT SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
IS, IS THAT CORRECT? 4 51 IS A DIFFERENT PER NOTIFICATION.
THAT WAS TO THE DEPARTMENT NOTIFICATION VERSUS MY SUPERVISOR.
'CAUSE THAT WAS REFERENCING I BELIEVE THE EMAIL.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT MS. JAMES HAS PUT IN THE REPORT IS THE EMAIL, THE DOC, THE EMAIL DOCUMENTING THE EVENTS.
SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, MM-HMM.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I SAY A PERSON HAD AN OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN JUNE 19TH TO JULY 5TH TO GET SOMETHING IN.
THEY WAIT TILL YOU GET DOWN TO O DARK 30.
AND NOW THE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH COMPUTERS.
YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW THEY ARE.
SO BEING VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE VERSUS SOMEONE WHO ISN'T KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT COMPUTERS, I WOULD'VE EXPECTED THAT YOU WOULD'VE SUBMITTED THAT APPLICATION SOONER.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT TIME DID YOU TELL YOUR SUPERVISOR THAT THIS WAS A NO GO? BECAUSE NEO GOV WAS GIVING ME PROBLEMS. CORRECT.
SO THAT WAS AT FOUR 30 WHEN IT WAS WHEN I TRIED TO LOG BACK IN TWICE AT THAT POINT.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU NOT NOTIFIED YOUR SUPERVISOR AT FOUR 30? YES.
HAS ANYONE SPOKEN TO THE SUPERVISOR TO CORROBORATE THIS? NO.
WE, WELL, THAT'S THE BONE OF CONTENTION HERE.
THE BONE OF CONTENTION HERE IS THIS, THE LADY IS SAYING SHE TRIED TO SUBMIT HER APPLICATION.
SHE SAYS AT FOUR 30 THE SYSTEM TIMED OUT.
SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO SUBMIT HER APPLICATION.
SHE SAYS IMMEDIATELY AT THAT TIME, SHE NOTIFIES HER SUPERVISOR THAT'S SAYING, HEY SUPERVISOR, I HAVE A PROBLEM.
SO I WOULD'VE HAD AN EXPECTATION THAT THE SUPERVISOR WOULD'VE COME AND SAID, HEY, AT FOUR 30 SHE SAYS, WE'RE HOUSTON, THERE'S A PROBLEM.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN I CAN SUPPORT SAYING, WELL, SYSTEM IS, THERE'S A GLITCH.
YOU SAY THAT THE APPLICATION WHEN IT STARTED, THAT IT STAYS IN THE SYSTEM.
YET YOUR REPORT STATES THAT NEO GOV CONFIRMED THERE WAS NO APPLICATION.
SHE'S TELLING ME SHE DID HAVE AN APPLICATION IN THERE.
SO THERE'S INFORMATION HERE THAT'S NOT JIVING FOR ME.
I'M HAVING A PROBLEM MAKING THAT CONNECTION.
AND THEN I DON'T HAVE A SUPERVISOR THAT CAN CONFIRM THAT AT FOUR 30 THIS WOMAN SAID, HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
YOU WANT ME TO OVERTURN SOMETHING? YOU WANT ME TO APPROVE SOMETHING? YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ENOUGH INFORMATION HERE.
IT IS PROBLEMATIC WHEN PEOPLE, WE TELL CANDIDATES FOUR 30, NO, NO ENOUGH.
ALL I'M GETTING TO IS THE FACTS.
SO I'M NOT INCLINED TO MOVE ON THIS UNTIL I GET BETTER INFORMATION.
I I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU HOW I FEEL.
I'M NOT INCLINED TO MOVE ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION I NEED TO MAKE
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A PROPER DECISION BECAUSE I AGREE THAT COMPUTER'S TIMEOUT, I'VE BEEN IN NEO GOV A THOUSAND TIMES, I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT.BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
AND SINCE NEO GOV DOESN'T TELL US ANYTHING THAT SHE WAS IN THERE.
'CAUSE YOU SAID THERE WAS NO APPLICATION.
SO NEO GOV IS SAYING, HEY, THERE'S NO APPLICATION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SYSTEM FAILURES.
BUT SHE'S SAYING AT FOUR 30 SHE SPOKE TO HER SUPERVISOR.
THE SUPERVISOR WAS MADE AWARE THAT THIS AGENDA, THIS ITEM WOULD BE ON THE, UM, AGENDA FOR TODAY.
HOWEVER, THEY COULD NOT MAKE THE MEETING FOR TODAY, BUT THEY SENT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH INFORMATION THAT REPRESENTATIVE KNOWS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
BUT THE SUPERVISOR, I'M LOOKING FOR A CORROBORATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
SO I'M NOT INCLINED TO THAT, SIR.
MAD PRESIDENT IF I COULD PUT A DIFFERENT SPIN ON THIS.
'CAUSE I, I THINK I'M STILL WHERE I WAS PREVIOUSLY, AND I'LL, I'LL JUST DESCRIBE WHY I'M GONNA PRESUME TRUTHFULNESS ON EVERYONE'S PART, THERE IS NOTHING BETWEEN THESE TWO STORIES THAT COULD NOT ABSOLUTELY THINK OF.
AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN FRONT OF US IS TELLING THE TRUTH WITHOUT EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY.
I THINK WE GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, BOTH TO THE EMPLOYEE AND TO THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT.
AND IN THIS NARRATIVE THAT WAS A TECHNICAL PROBLEM AT FOUR 20 THAT NO ONE REALLY CAN DISPUTE.
THERE WAS A REPORT AT FOUR 30 THAT NO ONE COULD REALLY DISPUTE.
NEO GOV SAID THERE WAS NO APPLICATION AND THAT THEY HAD NO OUTAGE.
I BELIEVE EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S SAYING TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
AND, AND I THINK SHE DESCRIBED IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VERACITY OF THE STATEMENTS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENTATION OF THE FACTS THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAD A PROBLEM.
I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU THAT I TRUST COMPUTERS BECAUSE I'VE HAD A MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS. SO I I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT HER STATEMENTS.
BUT THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAN PUT THIS TO REST.
HER SUPERVISOR KNOWS THAT SHE CAME TO THEM AT FOUR 30 TO SAY THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
MADAM PRESIDENT, WAIT A MINUTE, LET ME FINISH.
AND IF THAT HAD BEEN IN HERE, WE'D BE DONE.
BUT INSTEAD WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE CIVIL SERVICE TELLING US THAT THEY WANT US TO DENY IT.
WE HAVE THE PERSON HERE WHO HAS EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF COMPUTERS STATING THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED.
AND I HAVE NOTHING TO SUPPORT IT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN SAYING ANYTHING.
I I'LL DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I WANT TO HAVE FACTS IN FRONT OF ME TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
AND WE, WE COULD HAVE JUST PUT THIS TO REST, BUT I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING.
SHALL I? SO TIFFANY, YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT? YES, I'M HERE.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW, PLEASE? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS ANNETTE RIGG AND I AM IN THE PERSONNEL DIVISION AT LONG BEACH AIRPORT.
AND WHAT I KNOW IS, UM, WHAT IS LISTED IN THE EMAIL, UH, THAT WAS SENT TO MY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, MELISSA DIAM MECHI.
AND IN THAT EMAIL AND HAVING A COMMUNICATION WITH, UM, OUR CONVERSATION WITH SUSIE, UM, WHERE SHE LET ME KNOW THAT SHE DID SPEAK WITH HER SUPERVISOR.
UM, AND BASICALLY JUST WHAT IS IN THE EMAIL THAT WAS ATTACHED, UM, STATING THE, SHE MENTIONED IN THERE THAT SHE HAD HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER SUPERVISOR PRIOR TO, UM, THEN BEING DIRECTED TO THE PHONE NUMBER, UM, THAT WAS LISTED, UM, AS THE HELP NUMBER.
AND THEN SHE WAS ASKED TO NOTIFY, UM, MELISSA DICHI.
DID YOU, UH, SPEAK WITH MELISSA DICHI PRIOR TO COMING HERE? DID I SPEAK WITH HER? CORRECT.
ABOUT THIS? UM, N NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UH, THE, LIKE WHAT WAS, ARE YOU ASKING WHAT WAS LIKE, DID I SPEAK WITH HER? SO SHE, SHE COULDN'T BE HERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, AS SHE KNEW THIS WAS GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA.
SO YOU'RE HERE, I IMAGINE, IN UH, REPRESENTING THE DEPARTMENT REPRESENTING HER SINCE SHE COULDN'T BE HERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE SUPERVISOR THAT THEY ARE, UM, THAT IS CORRECT.
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UM, HOWEVER, THE SUPERVISOR THAT SUSIE CONTACTED, HER NAME IS MALU.UM, AND MALU IS HER DIRECT SUPERVISOR.
AND MALU, UM, IS SOMEONE THAT I DON'T, I DID NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH.
UM, AND TIFFANY HAS MORE INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING THE FACT THAT SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
SO, SO WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS, UM, THE QUESTION THAT MADAM PRESIDENT HAS IN REGARDS TO CONFIRMING, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, YOU'RE NOT PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION EITHER, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, I DO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
AND SO BASED ON, UH, COMMISSIONER FROST HOLLAND'S A AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, GARY, CAN YOU TELL US EXACTLY HOW TO DO THAT? WELL, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A SECOND.
SO WHILE THERE'S A, I THINK THERE'S A MOTION BY PRESIDENT FROST HOLLINS TO, UM, BASICALLY OVERTURN THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THE OTHER OPTION I GUESS THAT'S BEEN FLOATED IS THE IDEA OF TABLING THIS AS, UM, PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON, I THINK IS ALLUDING TO IT.
MAYBE SHE CAN COME AND TESTIFY BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT SHE HAD CONTACT WITH MS. VETS AT FOUR 30.
TIFFANY, WOULD THAT BE TIMELY IN THE, IN THE PROCESS OF YES, THAT WOULD BE TIMELY.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE IN TWO WEEKS.
IS THAT CORRECT, CHRISTINA? YES.
SO THAT, THAT WILL BE TIMELY IF WE YES, THAT'S FINE.
MAKE, UH, A DECISION IN TWO WEEKS.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION COMMISSIONERS, I'M HAPPY TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND WE CAN DO A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
IF COMMISSIONER LOVE AGREES WITH ME, UH, TO, UH, TABLE THIS FOR, UH, THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
I'LL AGREE TO THAT WITH THE STIPULATION THAT I, I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT, BUT I'LL AGREE TO THAT.
SO IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.
IF YOU DON'T SEE A NEED AND THE PERSON WHO'S SECOND IT DOESN'T SEE A NEED, THEN I WOULD GO WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO TODAY.
I MAY REMAIN WITH THE DENY OF DENIAL.
ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO THAT? ACTUALLY, I'M NOW.
WELL THEN I WILL SWITCH BACK TO THE TABLING.
I WILL SECOND YOUR AMENDMENT IF YOU WOULD STILL LIKE TO KEEP IT ON THE TABLE.
UH, THEN I WOULD OFFER A SUBSTITUTE OF MOTION, NOT FRIENDLY, UH, TO, UH, DENY THE DENIAL.
ARE WE CLEAR, GARY, ON THAT ONE? AND ARE YOU SECONDING THAT MOTION? I'M SECONDING THE MOTION TO, UH, DENY THE DENIAL, WHICH IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO OVERTURN THE RECOMMENDATION AND ALLOW MS. BEST TO PROCEED, I GUESS IN THE PROCESS.
THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, NOT FOR CONSIDERATION, CORRECT.
UM, IF WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND SEEK MORE INFORMATION.
SO IF THE SUPERVISOR EITHER, WELL, I THINK THAT'S NOT THE MOTION RIGHT NOW.
DO YOU WANNA VOTE ON WHAT'S ON? WE'RE ON THE SECOND ATION NOW.
LET'S CALL FOR A VOTE, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE, THE DENIAL OF THE PROTEST OF DISQUALIFICATION FROM ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTS ONE THROUGH FOUR EXAMINATION PROCESS.
[14. 24-54347 Recommendation to approve the denial of the protest of disqualification from Administrative Analyst I-IV examination process – Eric Wilcox. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
MCDONALD WILL MAKE THAT PRESENTATION TO YOU.AS BACKGROUND, THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION APPROVED A JOB OPPORTUNITY BULLETIN ON APRIL 10TH, 2024.
THE FILING PERIOD WAS OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS.
THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 571 APPLICATIONS RECEIVED, AND OF THAT NUMBER
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341 WERE ACCEPTED INTO THE PROCESS OF WHICH FOUR WITHDREW.THE REMAINING 230 THAT WERE INITIALLY SCREENED OUT OF THE, THERE WAS 230 INITIALLY SCREENED OUT OF THE PROCESS.
SO FOR THOSE THAT WERE NOT ACCEPTED, UM, THOSE APPLICANTS WERE, UH, TOLD THAT THEY COULD CIRCLE BACK.
SO I DID HAVE A HANDFUL OF CANDIDATES OR APPLICANTS THAT SCREENED, CIRCLED BACK WITH ME WITH CONCERNS AND QUESTIONING WHY THEY WERE SCREENED OUT.
SO IMMEDIATELY THEY WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEIR APPLICATION WOULD BE GIVEN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION AND REVIEWED BY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT WITHOUT ANY PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION.
AND FOR THAT PROCESS, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 22 APPLICANTS THAT ACTUALLY CIRCLED BACK WITH ME.
AND NOW THE 22 CANDIDATES THAT WERE GIVEN ADDITIONAL REVIEW, EIGHT CANDIDATES THROUGH THAT PROCESS WERE ADMITTED INTO THE PROCESS AFTER GIVEN A SECOND REVIEW BY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
AND RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE ONE PENDING UNDER A SECOND REVIEW.
AND, UM, 12 WERE SCREENED OUT AFTER A SECOND REVIEW, WHICH INCLUDES MR. WILCOX'S APPLICATION, WHICH IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY FOR FINAL PO DISPOSITION.
SO I CONTACTED MR. WILCOX AND I TOLD HIM, I SAID, STAFF IS NEVER THE LAST DECISION THAT THEY CAN ALWAYS COME TO COMMISSION FOR THAT FINAL, UM, DISPOSITION.
UM, AND THE REQUIREMENTS TO FILE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTS WAS A GRADUATION FROM A CREDIT UNIVERSITY WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC OR A BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OR A CLOSELY RELATED FIELD.
AND TWO OR MORE YEARS OF PAID FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST.
OR IF YOU HAD A MASTER'S DEGREE, THEN THE REQUIREMENT WAS ONLY ONE ONE YEAR.
AND WHEN WE'RE SCREENING FOR THE EXPERIENCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF MONTHS AS WELL.
SO WHEN WE SAY A YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 12 MONTHS.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, TWO YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 24 MONTHS.
AND
UM, WE DID CONSIDER THE PARAPROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, UH, ON A YEAR FOR YEAR BASIS IF, IF, UH, THERE WAS NO, UH, BACHELOR'S DEGREE.
BUT IN MR. WILCOX'S CASE, HE HAD HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE.
SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR THAT 24 MONTHS OF, UH, PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, EXPERIENCE.
AND MR. WILCOX, HE POSSESSED HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN SEVEN MONTHS OF QUALIFYING EXPERIENCE, AND HIS EXPERIENCE WAS GAINED WHILE SERVING AS AN ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST FROM SEPTEMBER, 2023 THROUGH THE CLOSE OF FILING APRIL 26TH, WHICH WAS STATED IN HIS CORRESPONDENCE.
AND ON JUNE 14TH, MR. WILCOX WAS NOTIFIED THAT HE WAS NOT ACCEPTED IN THE PROCESS, UM, DUE TO INSUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE AFTER THE SECOND REVIEW.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE TWO, SECTION SIX OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING DISQUALIFICATION AT APPLICANTS, WHICH CLEARLY STATES THAT THE COMMISSION MAY REFUSE TO EXAM, EXAMINE, OR AFTER EXAMINATION MAY REMOVE FROM ANY ELIGIBLE LIST, DISQUALIFY AND OR REFUSE TO CERTIFY ANY PERSON WHO DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS TO FILE A STATED APPLICATION.
SHOULD COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPEAL TO, UM, TO THE DENIAL STAFF CAN ACCOMMODATE IN THE EXAMINATION PROCESS AND SCHEDULE TO TAKE, UH, SCHEDULE MR. WILCOX TO TAKE THE EXAMINATION DURING A TESTING WINDOW BEGINNING AUGUST 9TH THROUGH AUGUST 12TH.
AND MR. WILCOX, HE IS HERE AND I TOLD HIM, I SAID, IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELF AND PLEASE YOUR CASE.
SO YOU WANNA GIVE HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
MR. WILCOX, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, SIR, AND THANK YOU.
HI, UH, PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON IN CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME TO SPEAK AND KIND OF GIVE MY POINT OF VIEW REGARDING MY CANDIDACY FOR THE ADMIN ANALYST POSITION.
THANK YOU MS. MCDONALD FOR GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS.
UM, I, I'D LIKE TO START BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2022, WHICH IS WHEN I WAS HIRED AS A CLERK TYPIST THREE WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S HARBOR DEPARTMENT.
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AS SOON AS I STARTED, UH, MY, MY DIVISION ITSELF IS THE ENGINEERING DESIGN DIVISION.WE HAVE FOUR ADMIN POSITIONS, AND ONE OF THOSE IS AN ADMIN ANALYST.
SHE'S BEEN, OR SHE HAD BEEN WITH THE DIVISION FOR OVER 10 YEARS, AND IT ACCUMULATED MUCH INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND SHE KNEW RIGHT AWAY AFTER MY START DATE THAT SHE'D BE RETIRING SOON.
UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, SHE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN TRAINING ME ON ALL OF HER DUTIES.
UM, AND I, I, WITH HER OVERSIGHT, I IMMEDIATELY STARTED DOING EVERYTHING SHE HAD DONE SO THAT THE DIVISION WOULD CONTINUE TO RUN EFFICIENTLY.
UM, NOT ONLY ONCE SHE RETIRED, BUT IN ADDITION TO WHEN SHE WAS EXHAUSTING HER VACATION DAYS PRIOR TO RETIREMENT.
SEPTEMBER OF 2023 WAS WHEN I OFFICIALLY GAINED THE POSITION TITLE OF ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST.
AND THIS PRIOR ADMIN ANALYST HAD RETIRED, UM, IN, IN ADDITION TO THIS.
SO NOT ONLY WAS I DOING ALL OF HER PAST DUTIES, WHICH WERE ADMIN ANALYST RELATED, UM, WHILE MY POSITION TITLE WAS ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST, THERE WAS A SEPARATE ADMIN WORKER UNDER THE TITLE ADMIN AIDE.
HE HAD BEEN WITH THE DIVISION FOR 30 YEARS AND HE HAD DECIDED TO RETIRE AS WELL.
UM, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THIS ADMIN AID POSITION IS ACTUALLY BEING RECLASSIFIED TO AN ADMIN ANALYST POSITION.
AND I IMMEDIATELY BEGAN LEARNING EVERYTHING HE DID.
SO WHEN HE RETIRED THE NEXT MONTH, WHICH WAS OCTOBER OF 2023, I WOULD KNOW EVERYTHING HE HAD BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.
SO IN A, IN A WAY, I, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH I'VE BEEN AN ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2023, I HAVE BEEN DOING ADMIN ANALYST EQUIVALENT WORK OF NOT ONLY ONE POSITION, BUT NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IT WOULD BE DETERMINED TO BE THE EQUIVALENT OF TWO ADMIN ANALYST POSITIONS OVER THIS TIME.
UM, I'M, I'M THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR OF OVER 30 CONTRACTS.
I, I FEEL LIKE, UM, I, I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT ALL THE THINGS I'VE DONE SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2023 THAT MATCH THE EXACT DESCRIPTION OF, OF JOB DUTIES UNDER THE ADMIN ANALYST POSTING ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL YOUR TIME.
I, I FEEL LIKE I'M LEARNING NEW THINGS EVERY DAY.
UM, MY, MY MANAGEMENT AND MY, MY BOSS APPRECIATES ME.
UM, THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY WANTED TO KEEP ME AND, AND HELPED ME TO PROMOTE TO ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST.
UM, WHEN THE ADMIN ANALYST OF A SEPARATE DIVISION ACTUALLY RETIRED, OR NO, SORRY, SHE DID NOT RETIRE, SHE TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE, OUT OF HER DIVISION.
AND I WAS TRUSTED TO TAKE OVER SOME OF HER ADMIN ANALYST WORK AS WELL AS A CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT I HAD BEEN DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB COVERING FOR THE OTHER TWO RETIREES THAT THEY KNEW I WOULD GET THE JOB DONE.
UM, FINALLY, I'VE, WHILE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING OUR TWO RETIREES, WE'VE HIRED AND CONTRACTED TWO TEMPS THAT I'VE BEEN TRAINING ON ALL THESE JOBS.
SO NOT ONLY DO I FEEL LIKE I'M GOOD ENOUGH TO DO THIS WORK MYSELF, I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB AT TRAINING PEOPLE TO DO THE JOB AND CONTINUING TO ALLOW OUR DIVISION TO, TO RUN EFFECTIVELY.
SO ALL IN ALL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A POSITION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I, I I JUST WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST AND SHOW MY WORTH, UM, AND SHOW THAT EVERYTHING I'VE LEARNED AND BEEN DOING SINCE, SINCE SEPTEMBER IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO DO JUST UNDER THE ADMIN ANALYST CLASSIFICATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. WILCOX.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND GIVING US, UH, YOUR POSITION.
I APPRECIATE YOU FOR DOING SO.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
YEAH, SO I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE DIFFICULT ONES, SO I PROBABLY HAVE MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN AN ANSWER.
'CAUSE I DO THINK OUR RULE ON ADMIN, ANALYST AND CAPRICE, YOU AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT ON THIS POSITION, UM, IS TOO STRINGENT, UM, IN A LOT OF WAYS.
UM, BUT IT IS STILL WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
I DO WISH WE HAD SOMETHING THAT RECOGNIZED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN GETTING PEOPLE AHEAD.
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YOU'VE BEEN WORKING OUT OF CLASS, UH, THAT IS WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU.UM, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I HEARD.
THAT IS A, THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME.
UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, NOT, NOT VERY MANY QUESTIONS THERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT COMMISSION, I ACTUALLY DID LOOK TO SEE IF THEY WERE GIVING HIM HIGHER CLASS PAY, BECAUSE THAT COULD HAVE SOLVED EVERYTHING ONE COMPENSATED FOR DOING THE WORK OF HIGHER CLASS, BUT THERE WAS NO HIGHER CLASS.
SO THIS HAPPENS AND, AND IT WAS CONCERNING.
I, LIKE I AM TRUE, SHARED A SENTIMENT ERROR COMMISSION WANNA GIVE THE, UH, EMPLOYEE A BENEFIT OF DOUBT.
I SEE ON THE APPLICATION THE DUTIES AS A CLERK TYPIST LOOK EXACTLY AS HIS DUTIES AS AAA.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A RED FLAG.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HR AND THE DEPARTMENT NEED TO ADDRESS.
UM, IS ANY, ANY SUPERVISORY PERSON OR REPRESENTATIVE COMMISSIONER? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU USE THE MICROPHONE? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU COULD HEAR ME.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THANK YOU.
UM, IS THERE SOMEONE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT HERE, I'D LIKE TO ASK THEM A QUESTION OR TWO.
UM, THERE IS AN HR REPRESENTATIVE HERE.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE, SIR? I AM HR MANAGER, ROI FOR THE HARPER DEPARTMENT.
UM, MR. WILCOX, UH, IS WHAT HE'S SAYING, TRUE THAT HE'S BEEN WORKING TECHNICALLY AS A CLERK TYPIST, BUT HE'S BEEN DOING ALL THESE OTHER DUTIES.
CURRENTLY MR. WILCOX IS AN ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY I CANNOT CONFIRM WHAT DUTIES HE'S BEEN PROVIDED TO BY HIS SUPERVISOR, UH, AS AN HR REPRESENTATIVE.
ONLY THAT HE IS WORKING FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS AN AS CURRENTLY AS AN ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST.
WELL, MY, MY THING IS THAT, UH, JUST LISTENING TO THIS GENTLEMAN, HE'S BEEN AN EXEMPLARY EMPLOYEE.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD'VE DONE THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKE OVER FOR TWO RETIREES AND THEN START TRAINING OTHER PEOPLE.
SO I THINK HE SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS AND THEY DON'T QUITE ADD UP TO THAT TWO YEAR MINIMUM.
SO, I MEAN, I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST, I'M LOOKING FOR A WAY TO SAY GIVE IT TO HIM.
I BELIEVE MR. WILCOX'S CAPABILITIES MEET AND EXCEED THE ROLE THAT HE'S CURRENTLY IN, AND HE DOES HAVE A RECOMMENDATION PROVIDED TO ME ON JULY 2ND FROM HIS DIVISIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE POSITION OF ADMIN ANALYST.
SO COMMISSIONER LOVE, IF I CAN DIVE IN.
IS THAT OKAY? COMMISSIONER GARGA.
AND THIS REALLY IS BETWEEN YOU AND I, HE REALLY HAS MADE AND GIVEN CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT HE'S BEEN WORKING OUT OF CLASS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE DID IT OUT OF HIS OWN INITIATIVE BECAUSE HE CARES ABOUT HIS JOB, HE CARES ABOUT THE CITY.
AND SO HE TOOK ON THAT INITIATIVE TO TAKE ON THAT, THOSE ADDITIONAL TASK.
SO PERHAPS THE EMPLOYER DIDN'T ASK HIM TO, BUT THE EMPLOYER, UH, DIDN'T ASK HIM NOT TO.
SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT BECAUSE THE TWO RETIREES WERE LEAVING, THAT HE MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING OUT OF CLASS WITHOUT YOUR DIRECT KNOWLEDGE? WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? UH, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE OF THE TWO EMPLOYERS THAT HA OR THE TWO RETIREES THAT HAVE BEEN OUTTA PLACE, THAT MR. WILCOX HAS MORE THAN LIKELY TAKEN ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES WITHIN THE DIVISION PROVIDED BY HIS CURRENT SUPERVISOR.
UM, AND HE PROBABLY HAS BEEN SUPPORTING THOSE DUTIES SINCE THE RETIREES HAVE LEFT THE DIVISION.
I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THAT INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSIONERS? I'D LIKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT MOTION AND MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO DENY THE DENIAL OF THE PROTEST OF DISQUALIFICATION.
IF I CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT.
I CAN SECOND LET'S CALL FOR THE VOTE.
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SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, WE'RE INVOKING OUR EXCEPTION TO THE RULE ON THIS CASE, CORRECT? YES.MR. MAY YOU ARE FOR THE RECORD.
YOU ARE OVERTURNING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF TO DENY THE REQUEST.
SO YOU ARE APPROVING HIS REQUEST FOR THE RECORD.
FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE AGREEING WITH MR. ERIC WILCOX FOR THE RECORD.
AND THANK YOU PRESIDENT GORDON, ROBIN PETERSON.
I ASKED, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME HIGHER CLASS PAY.
IT'S A GOOD THING HR IS, IS HERE TO HEAR THAT.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON ADOPTING AN OPEN LETTER ON THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT.
I'D LIKE COMMISSIONER FROST HOLLANDS TO SPEAK TO THIS LETTER, PLEASE.
[15. 24-54348 Discussion on Adopting Open Letter on the Proposed Charter Amendment. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
THANK YOU.UM, SO I DID GET, UH, I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO WOULD LIKE SOMETHING FROM THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, THAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OTHER INDIVIDUALS COULD SIGN ON TO.
UM, SO WHAT, UM, SO I DRAFTED SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, SO DEAR UH, CITY COUNCIL, WE, THE UNDERSIGNED EXPRESS OUR CONCERN RELATED TO THE POLICY CHANGES IN POLICYMAKING PROCESS ENGAGED IN THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT TO SECTION 300 AND SECTIONS 1100 THROUGH 1105, PERTAINING TO THE CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTIONS ENJOYED BY CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
THIS LETTER SEEKS TO AVOID RHETORIC ON BOTH SIDES AND SIMPLY ADDRESS WHAT THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT WILL CLEARLY DO IN ITS OWN LANGUAGE.
THE FIRST CHANGE THIS AMENDMENT MAKES IS TO ELIMINATE THE CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT AS AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY.
THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT REDUCE THE DEPARTMENT, NOR DOES IT ALLOW A SMALL COHORT, COHORT OF INDEPENDENT STAFF TO ADVISE THE COMMISSION AS IS THE CASE FOR POLICE OVERSIGHT.
RATHER, THE FIRST CHANGE IN THIS AMENDMENT IS TO PLACE ALL CIVIL SERVICE FUNCTIONS UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CURRENT AND ALL FUTURE CITY MANAGERS.
THE SECOND CHANGE IS TO RENAME THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION TO THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION.
THIS APPEARS TO DISBAND THE EXISTING CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION PREMATURELY ENDING THE TERMS OF ALL SITTING COMMISSIONERS WITHOUT THE PROCESSES FOR REMOVAL DESCRIBED IN THE CHARTER.
THE THIRD CHANGE IS TO DELEGATE TO HUMAN RESOURCES, A CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENT, ALL AUTHORITIES RELATED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CIVIL SERVICE SYSTEM.
THIS REMOVES INDEPENDENCE FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION OF EXAMINATIONS, CERTIFICATIONS, CLASSIFICATIONS, AND ELIGIBLE LISTS.
THE LAST ADMINISTRATION OF ELIGIBLE LISTS IS HOW VETERAN RELATED PREFERENCES ARE IMPLEMENTED AND HOW ANY PROPOSED NEW LOCAL HIRING PREFERENCES WOULD BE ENFORCED.
THIS PUTS CITY MANAGEMENT IN THE POSITION OF POLICING ITSELF ON IMPLEMENTING CHARTER PREFERENCES.
THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION IS NO LONGER PERMITTED TO RECOMMEND CHANGES TO RULES ON HIRING.
THAT INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY IS ALSO SHIFTED TO THE CITY MANAGER ADMINISTERED HUMAN RESOURCES.
THE COMMISSION IS SAID TO BE THE VENUE TO RECEIVE AND RESOLVE COMPLAINTS RELATED TO HIRING.
BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN EMPLOYEE OR CANDIDATE TO PUT THEMSELVES AT RISK BY FILING A COMPLAINT THAT IS LESS LIKELY IF THE COMMISSION IS NOT SEEN AS INDEPENDENT, HAS NO INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATORY POWER AND IS NOT ADVISED INDEPENDENTLY.
THE FOURTH CHANGE FOLLOWS THE FIRST, THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION'S ABILITY TO APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS REMOVED.
THIS DEPRIVES THE COMMISSION OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL INVESTIGATION AND CONFIRMATION THAT DECISIONS WERE IMPLEMENTED.
THE FIFTH CHANGE IS TO GIVE THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND LIFEGUARD ASSOCIATION THE OPTION TO BYPASS THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION AND CHOOSE TO GO TO A HEARING OFFICER.
THE CONCEPT THAT PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES FACING DISCIPLINARY CHARGES CAN CHOOSE THEIR COURT HAS OBVIOUS FAIRNESS IMPLICATIONS IN ADDITION TO DIMINISHING CITIZEN OVERSIGHT OF
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POLICE OFFICERS AND LIFEGUARDS.THE SIXTH AND FINAL CHANGE ADDRESSED IN THE IS THAT, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO CONDUCT INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS CONCERNING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ARTICLE.
THE LITERAL READING OF THIS CLAUSE WOULD GIVE THE CURRENTS AND FUTURE CITY MANAGERS THE POWER TO OVERSEE THE INVESTIGATION OF THEIR OWN DEPARTMENTS AND EVEN THEIR OWN HIRING.
THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS BY BARGAINING UNITS TO INTRODUCE LIMITS TO THE POWERS GIVEN TO THE CITY MANAGER IN THIS AMENDMENT.
WHILE COMMENDABLE THE SITE AGREEMENTS OF BEST PROTECT CURRENT WORKERS, THE PUBLIC HAS NO PROTECTION OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER LANGUAGE.
FUTURE GENERATIONS HAVE NO PROTECTION OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER LANGUAGE.
THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT HAS BEEN RUSHED BASED ON THE POLITICAL DESIRE TO MAKE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BALLOT.
THE COMMISSION WAS TOLD CHANGES COULD NOT BE MADE TO THE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE DUE TO THE TIGHT TIMEFRAME TO MAKE THAT ELECTION.
A LABOR, UH, UNION REPORTED THE SAME.
THIS SPEAKS TO A TOP-DOWN PROCESS THAT LEADS TO UNCERTAINTY, DISTRUST, AND UNINTENDED CON OUTCOMES.
ULTIMATELY, THE HIRING AND DISCIPLINARY APPEALS PROCESS FOR CITY OF LONG BEACH EMPLOYEES DESERVES BETTER.
THE CITY HAD THE OPTION OF MEANINGFULLY ENGAGING IN CHANGE MANAGEMENT, DEVELOPING ADVISORY GROUPS OF CITY STAFF, LABOR, AND AFFECTED COMMUNITIES, AND FINDING A SHARED SOLUTION.
BUT BEFORE YOU, WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS NOT A SHARED SOLUTION.
UH, I WOULD ASK, UH, THE AFTER DISCUSSION, UM, THAT, UM, WE WOULD ADOPT THIS, UM, BUT ALSO THAT WE WOULD DIRECT, UM, THAT, UM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE NAMES TO CHRISTINA OR THAT OTHERS MAY, UM, SUBMIT THEIR NAMES TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO BE ADDED TO THIS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, NO LATER THAN THE END OF DAY MONDAY.
SO IT'LL BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT CHARTER AMENDMENT COMMITTEE MEETING COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER FROST HOLLANDS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO THIS LETTER.
I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT AND BY COINCIDENCE, TODAY'S MEETING SHOWS US WHAT, UH, THESE CHARTER AMENDMENTS WILL ELIMINATE.
SO, MS. BETS AND MR. WILCOX WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.
AND ALTHOUGH OUR RULES STATE DIFFERENTLY, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE FOR OUR OWN CIVIL SERVICE RULES, UM, AND REGULATIONS.
AND SO WE INVOKE THAT TODAY TO BE FAIR TO OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.
AND SO, WHILE THIS COMMISSION, I BELIEVE IS UNANIMOUSLY IN AGREEMENT OF, OF WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THIS LETTER, I WOULD URGE YOU AS CITY EMPLOYEES TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS GONNA BE TO THE BEST BENEFIT OF YOU AND YOUR COWORKERS AND VOTE AS YOU SEE FIT FOR THIS.
UM, IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, AND IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND HAVE COWORKERS THAT DO, PLEASE CONSIDER THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT AND AGAIN, MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR YOURSELF.
UM, BUT KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION THAT MAKES INDEPENDENT DECISIONS, UM, SOMETIMES EVEN AS TODAY SHOWS, UH, AGAINST WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS RECOMMENDED.
AND SO WE REALLY LOOK AT THE FACTS.
WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND MAKE OUR DECISION THAT WAY.
BUT ALWAYS, PEOPLE FIRST, THERE'S ALWAYS INDIVIDUAL, UH, STORIES, INDIVIDUAL FACTS TO EACH CASE.
AND SO THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND PEOPLE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN, UH, COMMISSIONER FROST COLLINS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS LETTER.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARCA.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FROST HOLLANDS, AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT.
I'VE SAID WHAT I'VE SAID BEFORE AND I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY MIND.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMMISSIONER, LOVE, COMMISSIONER S THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER FROST HOLLANDS FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR DEDICATION, UM, TO THIS, UH, ISSUE.
UH, I ALSO HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY SEVERAL, UH, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SEVERAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE READY TO SIGN ON TO,
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UH, A LETTER OF OPPOSITION.UM, SOME ORGS WERE READY TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN LETTER OF OPPOSITION.
UM, ONCE THEY UNDERSTOOD, UM, THE IMPACT THAT THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT WOULD TRULY HAVE ON, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES.
AND AS STATED IN THE LETTER FUTURE GENERATIONS, UM, I BELIEVE IN THE LONG TERM, I DON'T BELIEVE IN DOING AWAY WITH A PROCESS THAT HAS EXISTED FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
UM, AT THE WHIM OF A COUPLE OF POLITICIANS AND CITY BUREAUCRATS.
UM, YOU KNOW, PROMISES HAVE BEEN MADE AND PROMISES HAVE BEEN BROKEN.
ON THE RECORD, UH, REGARDING THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT, I WANNA REMIND FOLKS THAT, UM, OUR MAYOR TOLD US THAT POLICE DISCIPLINE, WELL, NO, THAT NO DISCIPLINE WOULD BE TOUCHED, AND YET, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT TODAY.
AND SO, UM, I HAVE LOST ALL CONFIDENCE IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
UM, THIS REALLY, FOR ME BECAME A, A PROCESS THAT BECAME, GET WHAT YOU CAN OUT OF THIS FOR THE POLITICIANS, FOR THE BUREAUCRATS.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN, EVEN FOR SOME OF OUR FOLKS IN, IN, UH, IN ORGANIZED LABOR, AND I COMMEND THEM FOR REPRESENTING THEIR MEMBERSHIP, RIGHT? LIKE, THAT'S THEIR JOB.
BUT IT WAS ALSO THE JOB OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL AT THE HIGHEST ROLE HERE IN THE CITY, OUR MAYOR, TO KEEP HIS PROMISE TO US.
THAT WAS ALSO HIS JOB, TO KEEP HIS PROMISE.
UM, SO I'M NOT MAD AT THE, AT, AT AT ANYBODY THAT GOT WHAT THEY GOT OUT OF THIS, BUT IT SHOWS ME WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY AT.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT PEOPLE FIRST.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT CAN I GET OUT OF THIS? FIRST, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO REALLY LOOK AT WHO ELSE WANTS TO AFFECT AND IMPACT CIVIL SERVICE.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HERE IN LONG BEACH.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, DO YOUR RESEARCH.
I'M NOT GONNA MENTION NAMES, BUT IF WE'RE ALIGNED WITH CERTAIN OTHER FOLKS THAT WANNA DO AWAY WITH CIVIL SERVICE PROCESSES AT OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, IF WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THEM, SHAME ON US.
I WILL PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
SHAME ON US FOR EVEN THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES AS CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS DO YOUR RESEARCH.
WHO WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH CIVIL SERVICE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THIS COUNTRY? I DON'T WANT TO BE ALIGNED WITH THAT.
I REFUSE TO BE ALIGNED WITH THAT.
THAT'S JUST ANOTHER REASON FOR ME TO STAND ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT.
I WANNA START BY, UM, THANKING ERIC FROST TOLIN FROM THE INCEPTION OF THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT.
HE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT, HONEST, AND DEDICATED.
HE STATES THAT THE LETTER, HE WOULD AVOID THE RHETORIC.
JUST GIVE ME THE BLOODY FACTS.
I DON'T NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THE FLUFF.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT DOES.
AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME.
YOU'VE TAKEN ON A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY WITH YOUR PERSONAL LIFE AND YOUR OWN CAREER, YET YOU HAVE GIVEN US COUNTLESS HOURS SO THAT YOU CAN HELP THE CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
I I JUST NEED YOU TO KNOW HOW I FEEL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THIS GAME.
HAVING CIVIL SERVICE IS NOT GONNA AFFECT MY LIFE.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT PROBABLY WON'T AFFECT THE LIVES OF MY CHILDREN.
WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH ON THE TABLE FOR THEM.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS THAT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT
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THEIR CHILDREN ARE FREE? THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR EQUITY FOR THEM.IT'S NOT ABOUT US THAT GET, IT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THIS IS ABOUT THOSE THAT DON'T.
CIVIL SERVICE IS FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYONE GETS A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
AND COMMISSIONER ORONA IS TELLING YOU SOMETHING.
HE SAID, LOOK OUTSIDE YOUR CITY AND LOOK TO SEE WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO DISMANTLE CIVIL SERVICE NATIONWIDE.
LOOK, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT LONG BEACH, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THIS LONG BEACH CAN BE USED NOW AS A PLATFORM.
IF THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT GOES THROUGH, OH, SEE WHAT THEY DID DOWN IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA.
THEY KNOW CIVIL SERVICE DOESN'T WORK.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISMANTLE IT ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
YOU NEED TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE HERE.
THERE'S A LARGER PICTURE, AND THAT'S ALL THAT I ASK.
YOU VOTE, YOUR CONSCIENCE VOTING IS VERY PRIVATE, AND YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR PRIVACY.
AND I WILL NEVER INVADE YOUR PRIVACY.
AND I RESPECT EVERYONE THAT COMES TO THE TABLE.
PLEASE KNOW THAT EVEN WITH OUR DIFFERENCES, YOU SAW THEM TODAY, WE DIDN'T AGREE, WE DID NOT AGREE, BUT WE STILL CAME TO A CONSENSUS OF FAIRNESS FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE SO ADAMANT ABOUT OPPOSING THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT.
IF IT REALLY WAS GOING TO BENEFIT THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY, I WOULD RALLY I I I'M TELLING YOU, I WOULD JUMP UP AND I WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY, YES, LET'S DO THIS.
BUT THIS IS ALREADY BUILT ON A SHAKY FOUNDATION AND MANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU NO LONGER NEED THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION CAN BE DONE, DONE WITHOUT THIS.
SLIDE 18 TALKS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
THERE WAS A HUGE REPORT THAT WE HAD.
SO IF WE DISMANTLE CIVIL, CIVIL SERVICE, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.
WHERE WAS IT BEFORE? YOU WERE STILL TAKING THAT CHECK? WHERE WAS IT BEFORE? I'M NOT GETTING OFF OF THAT.
AND I'M GONNA WEAR MY T-SHIRT THAT I HAD MADE THAT SAYS ACCOUNTABILITY.
WHERE WAS IT BEFORE? AND THAT'S IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.
BE BECAUSE IT, IT HURTS AND IT HURTS ME ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
THERE WERE MANY TIMES WHERE I COULD NOT GET THROUGH THE DOOR.
THEY LOVED ME BECAUSE I'VE LIVED ALL OVER THE WORLD.
SO THEY COULD NOT HEAR THAT VOICE.
AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.
BUT THEN WHEN THEY SAW MY FACE, THEY DIDN'T WANT ME.
I TOLD YOU THIS AND I MEAN IT.
I GOT A CALL FOR A POSITION AND I SAID TO THEM, I'M NOT GOING TO COME TO THE INTERVIEW UNLESS YOU ASK THEM IF THEY WILL HIRE A BLACK WOMAN.
AND THE WOMAN ON THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE, SHE WAS IN SHOCK.
SHE SAYS, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT BEFORE.
I SAID, I'M TELLING YOU NOW, BECAUSE I HAD HAD ENOUGH.
AND SHE CALLED ME BACK AND SHE SAID, THEY SAID TO PLEASE COME TO THE INTERVIEW.
THE MAN'S NAME WAS WILLIAM RESNER.
THAT WAS THE MAN THAT HIRED ME.
AND HE SAID HE HAD NEVER HAD THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE.
SO I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY THIS.
IT MAKES ME VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT.
AND, AND I, I AM TRYING NOT TO BE, BUT IN ALL HONESTY, I AM.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO BE SAID.
I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING THIS, AND I APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THESE COMMISSIONERS.
BECAUSE I KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY STAND ON IT, THE ETHICS AND THE TRUTHFULNESS, AND WE JUST DON'T GIVE A HOOT, NANNY IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT WE SAY, WE'RE SAYING THE TRUTH OF HOW WE FEEL.
AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
AND SO THIS, THESE ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PUBLIC STATEMENTS.
THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO DISPARAGE ANYONE.
I DON'T WANT ANYONE LEAVING THIS ROOM FEELING
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LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO A CERTAIN THING.THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
WE'RE ONLY ASKING YOU TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND THEN YOU DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, THINK ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
COMMISSIONERS CALL FOR A VOTE.
IF WE CAN JUST CLARIFY FOR IF COMMISSIONER LOVE AND COMMISSIONER WAS GONNA, ARE AGREEING WITH THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, I THINK.
AM I RIGHT? I I LIKED IT THOUGH.
DO WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND RECORDED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE? YEAH.
UH, WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND, AND, UH, WE'RE JUST WAITING ON FROST HOLLANDS VOTE.
I ALMOST WISH THAT HAD BEEN THE FINAL THING.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE REPORTS.
I WILL ASK SAL TO PRESENT FIRST.
SO CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS PARTNERED WITH PACIFIC GATEWAY TO BE A WORK
[16. 24-54350 Recommendation to receive and file reports from the Civil Service Managers. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
SITE FOR THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY'S YOUTH AT WORK PROGRAM, WHICH AIMS TO PROVIDE YOUTH WITH WORK READINESS, EDUCATIONAL CAREER PLANNING, AND ALSO PROVIDE PAID WORK EXPERIENCE.WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE HER FIRST WORKER THAT ACTUALLY STARTED YESTERDAY.
HER NAME IS, UH, DAM DAMISHA GRIFFIN.
SHE'S ACTUALLY OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.
SHE'S A LONG BEACH RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT IN A LOT OF GREAT ENERGY AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH A LOT OF PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HER.
SHE'LL BE, UH, JOINING US THROUGH THE SUMMER, MOST LIKELY THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER, 2024.
AND WE'RE JUST HAPPY TO WELCOME ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, SO IF SHE DOESN'T MIND, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCING HERSELF REAL QUICK, THAT THAT'LL BE AMAZING.
IS NO ROOM FOR SHYNESS HERE?
TELL US YOUR NAME AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
UM, I'M JA MANISHA GRIFFIN, AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS INTERNSHIP THROUGH FEATURE LB, UM, I STARTED YESTERDAY AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN LEARNING A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY COOL.
I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU JUST CHOSE US AS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GROW AND LEARN.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO WORK IN THE OFFICE, SO IT'S COOL.
AT HOMECOMING
AND LET US KNOW HOW IT, AND, AND LET US KNOW HOW IT WENT.
LIKE, COME BACK HERE, TALK TO YOU.
WHAT PART OF LONG BEACH DO YOU LIVE IN? UM, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD? LIKE WHAT, WHAT PART OF LONG BEACH DO YOU LIVE IN? UM, I LIVE IN LIKE WEST, UM, WEST LONG BEACH? YEAH.
I AM WEST SIDE LONG BEACH, THROUGH AND THROUGH.
I DON'T, I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE NOW,
THAT WAS, WE WERE SILVERADO PARK WHEN THE PARK WAS OPEN AND YOU COULD GO TO THE POOL.
THAT'S BEFORE THE KIDS STARTED BREAKING THE WINDOWS.
BUT YOUR PARENTS COULD WATCH YOU SWIM GIRL AND SWAT ON THE SIDE.
WHAT HIGH SCHOOL DID YOU GO TO? I WENT TO CABILLA HIGH SCHOOL.
MY DAUGHTER LEILANI GRADUATED FROM CABRILLO EXCELLENCE SCHOOL.
SO I WON'T TELL YOU MY AGE, BUT THAT WAS IN A HIGH SCHOOL WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I'M PROUD THAT, UM, THAT WHILE I WAS, UH, WITH LONG BEACH TRANSIT, I PUT IN BUS SERVICE TO CABRIO TO MAKE SURE YOU THE KIDS COULD GET TO SCHOOL ON TIME.
OH, SO YOU'RE AT A GOOD, YOU WERE AT A GOOD SCHOOL.
WHAT COLLEGE ARE YOU GOING TO? UM, I DO WANNA GO TO COLLEGE.
UM, I DON'T, I WANNA TAKE CLASSES AT LBCC.
WHEN YOU CONSIDER YOUR EDUCATION.
I COULDN'T ASK ANYONE TO GO TO A BETTER SCHOOL.
AND THEN THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH DOMINGUEZ AND CAL STATE LONG BEACH SO THAT ONCE YOU'RE
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THROUGH THERE, YOU CAN HAVE A, A DIRECT PIPELINE.AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM THE LOCAL COLLEGES.
SO IT'S JUST LIKE, GIRL, YOU'RE HOME,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
AND IF YOU EVER NEED ANY MENTORING, YOU'VE GOT FIVE PEOPLE UP HERE THAT HAVE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AND WE WILL GLADLY TALK TO YOU ANYTIME.
DO ME A FAVOR, CALL CHRISTINA WHEN YOU HAVE A MOMENT AND SHE'LL GIVE YOU MY PHONE NUMBER, MY CELL PHONE.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ACTUALLY TALK TO YOU AFTER THIS
I WILL JUST SAY THAT IT WAS, UH, THE OFFICE WAS A BUZZ YESTERDAY WITH THE RECRUITMENT TEAM, AND DAMISHA WAS RIGHT IN THERE GETTING THINGS READY FOR SOME UPCOMING EVENTS.
AND SO IT WAS, SHE JUST FIT RIGHT IN AND GOT BUSY.
SO IT WAS VERY NICE TO SEE WHEN I WALKED IN THE MOR YESTERDAY MORNING.
UH, CAPRICE, GOOD MORNING AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS IS THE BEST COMMISSION IN YEARS.
SO I LOVE ALL OF YOU GUYS AND I APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR, UH, COMMITMENT AND THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE.
I, FOR THE RECORD, I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EXPECT YOU TO AGREE WITH ME EVERY TIME.
UM, IN FACT, JUST RECENTLY, UM, FRIDAY AND MONDAY I HOSTED A SECOND ROUND OF TESTING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTS.
AND A COUPLE WEEKS BACK, A COUPLE MEETINGS BACK, THERE WAS, UM, CONVERSATION AMONG THE COMMISSION ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT SHOWING UP, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I HEARD YOU.
YEAH, WE DEFINITELY, WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, UH, GIVE A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THOSE THAT SHOW UP.
BUT THEN WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP? SO I 92, THAT WAS SUCH A LARGE NO SHELL RATE.
SO I, UM, PULLED, UH, SURVEYED THOSE CANDIDATES AND I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A SECOND TESTING, WOULD YOU BE WILLING? 'CAUSE THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GO THROUGH AND SCREEN 571 APPLICATIONS WHEN WE TYPICALLY HAVE 300.
AND LAST TIME I HAD A RETIREE AN KNEW IT TO HELP.
AND I DID NOT WANT THOSE, THAT POOL OF PEOPLE TO GO AWAY.
AND SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR SOME PEOPLE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, MY GRANDMOTHER WAS SICK, OR, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY JUST REALLY HAD A TOUGH TIME WITH THAT PLATFORM.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HEAR STORIES ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND SO IT WAS FOR ME TO MAKE A POINT, HEY, ALL THOSE FOLKS THAT HAD ISSUES WITH THE PLATFORM, WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMEDIED THAT.
SO I CONTACTED THE VENDOR, I'M LIKE, HEY, ARE YOU GONNA CHARGE ME AGAIN FOR BRINGING ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE? OR IS THIS ALL PART OF THE SAME? SO THEY WORKED WITH ME.
SO, UM, BASICALLY HAD ABOUT 90, ALMOST BETWEEN 70 AND 90 PEOPLE TO, TO BRING BACK TO OFFER TESTING.
AND, UM, I HAD A LARGE, I MEAN, I PRETTY MUCH A 50% SHOW RATE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
AND STILL, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THAT GROUP, THERE'S STILL CHALLENGES.
SO I'VE HAD TO, UH, JUST KIND OF REALLY THINK OUT OF THE BOX.
LIKE THE OTHER DAY, A LADY SHOWED UP AND SHE'S LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED A WHITEBOARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO SCRATCH PAPER.
YOU KNOW, I JUST WENT AND GOT A WHITE NOTEBOOK,
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO PASS ON.
SO THE NEXT TIME THIS EXAM IS RUN, IF WE USE THIS SAME VENDOR, SAME PLATFORM, AND I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S A GOOD TEST BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WITH THIS TEST A LOT, WE SAT WITH, UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UM, FROM THE CITY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL.
AND WE WENT THROUGH THE TEST, EVERY SINGLE ITEM.
AND THEN AFTER WE, UH, PUT THE TESTS AND HAD A SEMI CUSTOM TEST PUT TOGETHER, THEN IT WAS TIME TO SET THE PASS POINT.
SO THEN I BROUGHT THEM IN AND I SAID, WE'RE GONNA USE A METHOD THAT IS WIDELY USED, WRONG PUBLIC AGENCY.
SO WE, UH, SAT WITH THEM AND THEY WENT THROUGH LINE BY LINE UNTIL WE HAD, UM, A PASSPOINT SET.
SO A LOT OF EFFORT WAS PUT INTO THIS NEW
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PROCESS.UM, A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET THE FEEDBACK AND, AND WORK THROUGH THAT.
UM, SO, AND ENOUGH ABOUT EVERYTHING I'M DOING STAFF IS DOING
DANELLE IS, UH, HAVING ANOTHER IN-PERSON EXAM TOMORROW FOR, UH, PRINCIPAL BUILDING INSPECTOR.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHALLENGING WHEN WE ARE HAVING TO HAVE RAIDERS, BUT, UM, SOME, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS, IT'S REQUIRED.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT THE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP FOR THE TEST, YOU KNOW, HAVING A, UM, VIRTUAL TESTING FOR THE CANDIDATE POOL, THE AUDIENCE, THOSE, UH, INSPECTORS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOW UP.
SO, BUT THEY SHOWED UP FOR THAT ONE AND DONE INTERVIEW FACE TO FACE WITH LIVE RATE.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK DANELLE FOR, UH, MAKING THAT HAPPEN AND WORKING WITH, UM, RECRUITMENT OUTREACH TO TRY TO GET RAIDERS, BUT IT'S, UM, DEFINITELY STRUGGLE.
AND I'M JUST GONNA INCLUDE ON THIS HERE.
UM, I'M TIRED,
92 PEOPLE, LIKE YOU SAID, IS, IT'S QUITE A, QUITE A BIG POOL.
UM, AND SO YOUR FOLLOW UP SPEAKS TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY AND MIGHT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW, OR, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN REACH OUT FOR HELP.
UM, THAT, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING BACK SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE FOR TESTING.
UM, I'M SURE OUR STAKEHOLDER DEPARTMENTS APPRECIATE HAVING, UH, MORE OPTIONS AND I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES, UH, THE HANDHOLDING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DIFFERENTLY WAS WE SET THIS, UH, RECRUITMENT UP AS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A STRUGGLE.
CHRISTINA WILL TELL YOU TO GET DEPARTMENTS TO KEEP THIS LIST FOR A YEAR.
UM, SO NOW SOME OF THE LISTS ARE NOT LASTING FOR A WHOLE YEAR, BUT I AM GONNA WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO SAY, HEY, CAN YOU, LET'S NOT SCARE OFF THE CANDIDATES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHY ARE SOME OF THE CANDIDATES NOT SHOWING UP? WHY ARE THEY GHOSTING US? BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT, UM, THAT METHOD OF LET ME SEND OUT NOTICE TO CANDIDATES BE THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, ONLY THE STRONG WILL SURVIVE.
SO SOME PEOPLE WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY SCREENED THEMSELVES OUT WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE NOTICE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND MAYBE EVEN GO BACK TO HOW IT WAS IN 1990 WHEN YOU JUST SENT OUT A NOTICE AND SAY YOU'RE INVITED TO AN INTERVIEW.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA SEND OUT A NOTICE AND THAT'S, IT'S A, UM, TWO PAGE DISSERTATION OF ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY REALLY NOT GONNA DO
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN, THAT THE CITY CAN DO BETTER ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE ENTICING THEM INSTEAD OF SCARING THEM OFF, BUT HAVING A CONTINUOUS PROCESS ALLOWING US TO HAVE A TEST TOO.
SO, UM, EVEN THOSE FOLKS THAT GOT SCREENED OUT, UM, TO BE ABLE, AND YOU MEN, WHAT I MENTIONED WITH THE REPORT WITH MR. WILCOX, THERE WERE 20 PEOPLE THAT CAME BACK AND THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS LOOKED AT THEIR APPLICATION AND EVEN THOSE THAT DID A DEEPER DIVE TO SEE IF THEY HAD, UM, HIGHER CLASS PAY AND WE BROUGHT THEM BACK IN.
AND SO NOW THEY CAN BE PART OF TEST TWO.
AND THE REASON THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE DIFFERENT TEST NUMBER BECAUSE SINCE THE LIST NOW IS BEING ESTABLISHED THAT WAS ESTABLISHED FOR SIX MONTHS, UM, IT'S NOT FAIR TO A CANDIDATE LIKE MR. WILCOX WOULD, I WOULD NOT PUT HIM ON TEST ONE BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE ALREADY TWO WEEKS INTO THAT ELIGIBLE LIST.
SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE CONCURRENT LISTS THROUGH THIS PROCESS SINCE WE DID IT.
UM, REAL QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU TO STAFF.
UM, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE A FEW DAYS OFF AND STAFF DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB.
EVERYTHING GOT TAKEN CARE OF THIS AGENDA WAS, UM, WELL I WORKED ON THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY, BUT STAFF DID ALL THE WORK AHEAD OF THAT TIME.
SO, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO SET THE EXAM.
I'M TRYING TO SET THE EXAMPLE OF WORK-LIFE BALANCE, AND SO MARIA'S OFF ON A VACATION THIS COUPLE DAYS, SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT, DON'T HAVE A REPORT FROM MARIA.
UM, IN ADDITION, I WILL, UM, CIRCLE BACK WITH THE THREE COMMISSIONERS WHO
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ARE ON THIS CURRENT HEARING SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE DATES.SO I'LL CATCH YOU AT THE END OF THIS MEETING SO THAT WE CAN, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE DATES IN CONCRETE.
I'VE BEEN TELLING THE ATTORNEYS THAT WE'LL GET BACK TO THEM.
WE ARE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION, UM, PRESIDENT.
UH, PRESIDENT GORDON PETERSON.
UH, GARY HAS SUGGESTED YOU DO PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU GO INTO OH.
COULD WE GET A VOTE ON THE RECEIVE AND FILE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, THANK YOU.
CHRISTINA ARE THE SOUVENIRS FIRST IN THE BACK
UM, THE, UH, COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION.
UM, AND SO I DON'T WANNA HOLD ANYONE THE AD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM.
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Civil Service Commission on non-agenda items. ]
GOOD MORNING.BRANDON NOTTINGHAM, BUSINESS REP, DIM.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THE AA TEST.
CAPRICE HAS BEEN VERY, UH, EX SHE'S EXPLAINED THE PROCESS.
UM, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MEMBERS REACH OUT TO ME WITH THEIR EXPERIENCES IN THE PROCESS, UM, WITH CAPRICE, UH, STATING ABOUT 500 OR SO AP APP APPLIED.
UM, IT WAS ABOUT 219 THAT WERE NOT ACCEPTED.
133 OF THOSE WERE FOR INSUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE.
UH, MEMBERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME WERE STATING THEIR FRUSTRATIONS IN.
AND I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO, UH, COMMISSIONER FROST HOLLAND'S STATEMENT OF THIS STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, A LOT OF THESE FOLKS DO POSSESS BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREES AND ARE STILL BEING DENIED HAVING BEEN WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, CLOSE TO THE TWO YEAR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, IF NOT AT THE TWO YEAR REQUIREMENT.
WHEREAS I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH OR DISCREDIT ANY OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE COME IN HERE TO APPEAL, UH, THEIR DENIALS FOR THEIR LACK OF TIME.
BUT IT DOES SHOW FRUSTRATION ON SOME OF OUR OTHER MEMBERS.
UH, AND I DID INVITE ONE OF THESE MEMBERS HERE THAT HAD LIVED THIS EXPERIENCE AND GONE THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE, UM, TO SPEAK ON HER EXPERIENCE.
I KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE FULL DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT SHE WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SPEAK HER PIECE ON HER EXPERIENCE THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR YOU GUYS.
GUYS, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM HER AND THANK YOU.
IS IT OKAY? UH, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS CHRISTINA CORTEZ AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE INFORMATION MANAGEMENT DIVISION FOR THE PAST SIX AND A HALF YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROMOTE TWICE TO MY CURRENT POSITION AS AN ASSISTANT ADMIN ANALYST AND HAVE BEEN SUCH SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
MY RECENT EXPERIENCE DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE ADMIN ANALYST POSITION HAS HAD MANY SHORTCOMINGS THAT RESULTED IN WHAT I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE AS UNFAIR, WHICH IS NOT A TERM I USE LOOSELY.
ANOTHER APPLICANT, LEONA PARIS, AND MYSELF WERE BOTH DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROCEED WITH THE EXAM DUE TO INSUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE.
WHEN THE RESULTS WERE FIRST ANNOUNCED, UM, I'M SORRY, WHEN THE RESULTS WERE FIRST ANNOUNCED, WE BOTH PROCEEDED TO ASK FOR A REVIEW OF OUR APPLICATIONS IN ORDER TO HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EXAM, WHICH WAS ADVISED TO BE THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
INSTEAD OF RECEIVING A DEBRIEF, WE WERE ADVISED THAT OUR APPLICATION WOULD UNDERGO A SECOND REVIEW BY ANOTHER REVIEWER AND WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
THE SECOND REVIEW WOULD END UP TAKING A MONTH IN TOTAL WITH ONE OF THE REASONS BEING THAT HIGHER CLASS PAY EXPERIENCE WAS BEING CONSIDERED.
WHEN FINALLY NOTIFIED BY PHONE THAT MY APPLICATION WAS ACCEPTED TO PROCEED WITH THE EXAM, I HAD AGAIN ASKED HOW MY EXPERIENCE WAS FOUND TO BE INSUFFICIENT DURING THE FIRST REVIEW.
AND WAS TOLD THAT HIGHER CLASS PAY WAS NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, TO WHICH IT WAS THEN DETERMINED THAT I HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME AS A CITY EMPLOYEE.
THIS WAS INCREDIBLY DISCOURAGING AND FRUSTRATING TO HEAR, KNOWING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CITYWIDE VACANCIES AT ALL TIME LOWS.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN TAKING ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY IN AN ACTING CAPACITY TO NOT HAVE THAT TIME CONSIDERED AT THE FRONT END FOR WHATEVER REASON, ESPECIALLY AFTER IT WAS SPECIFIED IN THE POSTING THAT IT WOULD COUNT TOWARDS WORK EXPERIENCE IS INVALIDATING.
LEONO AND MYSELF MADE IT A POINT TO CLEARLY OUTLINE
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OUR ACTING EXPERIENCE AND PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO SUBSTANTIATE IT.BUT THAT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN IGNORED.
THIS ALSO LEADS TO SPECULATION ABOUT HOW APPLICANTS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WOULD HAVE BEEN DETERMINED AS QUALIFIED JUST BY PERFORMING SIMILAR JOB DUTIES.
FOR SOMEONE WORKING AS THE SPECIFIC CLASSIFICATION THAT WAS REFERRED TO IN THE APPLICATION WOULD MAKE ONE THINK THAT IT'S A NO-BRAINER TO BE QUALIFIED.
INSTEAD WE WERE HELD IN LIMBO WITH UNREALISTIC DEADLINES THAT WERE CONSISTENTLY MISSED BY THE ONE DEPARTMENT WHO HAS CONTROL WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
COMBINE THAT WITH DELAYED RESPONSES AND GENERIC BOILERPLATE UPDATES ONLY TO BE FURTHER DISADVANTAGED BY BEING CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON A SECOND LIST, IT IS UNCLEAR HOW THAT DECISION COULD BE OF MUCH BENEFIT TO THE ROUND TWO CANDIDATES OTHER THAN BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT WE MADE THE LIST WHILE INTERVIEWS ARE BEING SCHEDULED TO FILL VACANCIES AND WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR RESULTS.
THAT IN ITSELF COULD BE DEEMED AS UNFAIR LABOR PROCESS.
IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO SAY IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMISSION TO REEVALUATE THIS PROCESS.
THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY ON UNREALISTIC DEADLINES AND SUBJECTIVE QUALIFICATION CRITERIA WOULD BE A DETERRENT FOR THOSE HOPING TO PROMOTE.
I LIKE WHAT I DO IN MY POSITION AND WHILE AT TIMES IT IS DIFFICULT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE UP SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT ADDS TO THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
I APPRECIATE HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
UH, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT, BUT YOU SURE GAVE US AN EARFUL.
WELL WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ASK, UH, UH, LET, UH, COMMISSIONER GARA GO AHEAD AND REQUEST IT.
I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO FOLLOW UP.
PLEASE INPUT THIS ON, ON A FEATURE AGENDA SOON.
I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO RESPOND.
OKAY, SO, UM, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SECRECY? GO AHEAD, CHRISTINA.
NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY YES, WE WILL DO THAT.
AND UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO REVIEW THE PROCESS, CORRECT? I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON WHAT THE COMMISSION IS ASKED FOR.
WERE WE OKAY? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
SO MAY WE, SORRY, GO AHEAD SUE.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE BARGAINED.
UM, CAN WE ACTUALLY GO A LITTLE DEEPER THAN JUST OUR PROCESS FOR REVIEWING AND ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE LANGUAGE ON, UM, RELEVANT EXPERIENCE IS APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE AND WHETHER WE MIGHT NEED AN UPDATE FOR OUR NEXT ROUND? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOLLINS, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE AND I THINK IT WILL HELP US TO GET TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM IF, IF IT'S DETERMINED.
UM, SO I WANNA DO A COUPLE THINGS.
I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO COME TO THE CIVIL SERVICE MEETING.
WE HAVE TO ADJOURN TO A CLOSED SESSION.
UM, AND SO I DON'T WANNA HOLD YOU, UH, UP BECAUSE WE MAY BE IN THERE FOR A, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT WHENEVER ANYONE TAKES TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO COME TO A MEETING, I ALWAYS WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.
FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO US FOR THEIR HEARINGS, UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
IT, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD.
UH, WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT WE'RE HERE FOR YOU 'CAUSE WE ARE THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
WE'LL ADJOURN TO THE CLOSED SESSION.
UH, MADAM PRESIDENT, DO WE DO, OR GARY, DO WE DO ANNOUNCEMENTS PRIOR TO IT'S YOUR CALL.
YOU CAN DO IT NOW OR YOU CAN DO IT AFTERWARDS.
UH, WE CAN DO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
ALL ALL, ALL I WANNA DO IS, UH, GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE US TEAMS AT THE OLYMPICS.
UH, THEY'RE DOING US PROUD AND WE HAVE, UH, MR. POMMEL MAN
AND SIMONE BILES NEVER DISAPPOINTS.
SO GO TEAM USA AND IF TEAM USA IS NOT AT THE TOP AND ANY OF YOUR, UH, CHEERING ON FOR THE MOTHERLAND OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER COUNTRY, UH, IT'S, IT'S AWESOME TO SEE ALL OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, COMPETE ON A WORLDWIDE LEVEL.
AND SO SUPER PROUD OF TEAM USA AS ALWAYS.
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AS ALWAYS.ALL RIGHT, WE WILL ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION AND THANK YOU EVERYONE.
[17. 24-54349 Closed Session – Executive Director’s Performance Evaluation (Pursuant to paragraph (b) (1) of Section 54957 of California Government Code). Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
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UH, CHRISTINA, GARY ARE, ARE THEY COMING BACK OUT TO REPORT? YEAH.UM, I CAN'T DO IT UNTIL MAYBE LIKE FIVE TODAY.
JUST TO CLEAR YOU, THE, THE ROOM WHERE THE TEA IS, RIGHT WHERE THE, WHERE THE ADD-ON WAS THE FIRST ROOM WHERE THE WOOD IS THEN.
SO I'LL MOVE EVERYTHING OUTTA THAT FIRST ROOM WHERE THE YEAH, YEAH, WHERE THE WOOD IS THOUGH.
MAKE SURE WE'RE THE RIGHT ROOM.
SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, CATION IN BETWEEN
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AND IT HASN'T BEEN REFERRED, SO HOPEFULLY I CAN DO THAT TODAY.SO ONCE THE A SPOT, ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE ADDED TO THE PROCESS, I'M DOING THAT MYSELF.
LET THEM KNOW IT'S DID NOT HEAR.
YESTERDAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU, IT'S IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL NOT HIS FAULT.
THAT WAS, CAN I REMEMBER WHEN PAPER GOES TO, TO,
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NOW DO I BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS WORKING ON APPLICATION? I, OH, MY DON'T.AND SO WHAT I PROPOSE, THE FACT IS WE HAVE, WE ARE SO LIKE, LIKE NOT INADEQUATELY, CLERICAL, BUT THAT IS, THERE IS A, A FRONT DESK THEY DID THAT IF THEY CALLED, IF SHE WOULD'VE CALLED DURING BUSINESS HOURS, YOU WOULD'VE GOT SOMEONE THEY DIDN'T CALL DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
BUT IF SHE KNEW WHO SOMEONE, THE ANALYST COULD BE OFF AND THERE'S SOMEONE THAT THEY CONTACT ME OR ANOTHER.
THE POINT IS CALL FOUR 30 AFTER HOURS.
WE DO NOT MA, BUT WHAT I'M GONNA TALK STAFF THAT WE HAVE APPLICATION FOUR 30 AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY I'M TRYING TO DO TESTING AND I DO NOT HAVE TESTING.
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UM, I REALLY GOOD.DID WE WANNA WAIT FOR, UH, FROST COLLINS OR, UH, NO, HE WON'T BE RETURNING.
AND I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT ON RECORD.
UH, WHAT TIME IS IT? 33? YEAH, 1133.
THIS IS A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION 7 31 24.
WE ARE RETURNING FROM CLOSED SESSION.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT.
SO WE'RE NEXT TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
AND YOU'VE DONE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
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ANNOUNCEMENTS.UM, ARE WE VOTING ON THIS? I DON'T HAVE, NO, THERE'S NOTHING VOTE ON, NO.
SO WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
UM, BUT BEFORE I ADJOURN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT TO STAY LONGER.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE LONGING YOUR DAY, SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALWAYS WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
UM, AND THEN I, I JUST WANNA SAY I WANT TO, I KNOW NO ONE IS HERE BUT US, BUT, UH, I'VE JUST HAD A GRAND LIFE AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME INTO MY LIFE HAVE
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HAD, UH, SOME HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS IMPACTS ON MY LIFE.AND ONE, UH, SUCH PERSON, HER NAME, UM, IS THE RACE OF LANDERS.
UH, JOANNE GAR AND I KNEW HER PERSONALLY AND WE LOVED HER.
SHE AND HER HUSBAND BUD PASSED THIS YEAR, FIVE MONTHS APART.
SHE PASSED, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN SHE PASSED.
BUT WITHIN FIVE MONTHS OF EACH OTHER.
AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING, UH, INTO A STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF LONG BEACH DAY NURSERY OF PHIL.
JUST TRUE PHILANTHROPY AND LOVE OF, UH, THE CITIZENS OF LONG BEACH, UH, THE CHILDREN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IS SO CRITICAL AND SHE WAS RIGHT THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING TODAY IN THE MEMORY OF BUD AND THERESA LANDERS THERE BEING TURN TODAY AT ALL.
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE WE WERE HERE, BUT WE WANT, UH, EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE LOVED.
AND, UH, SO THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.