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NOT COMMISSIONER MCRAY HERE.YOU WHO HERE? YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE MINUTES AS DISTRIBUTED.
UH, I WAS NOT HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN VOTE ON OR NOT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR AGENDA IS, ALRIGHT, UH, FIRST UP, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF, UH, PREVIOUS.
DID WE JUST DID THAT? WE JUST DID THAT? YEAH.
REMOVE MARINE ADVISORY AGENDA, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
UM, STARTING UP, WE GO INTO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
UH, THEN WE GO INTO THE PLACEMENT OF MEMORIAL BENCH, UH, TO REPLACE AN EXISTING STANDARD BENCH IN COLORADO LAGOON TO HONOR LORI STEINER REED.
UM, THIS BENCH IS ACTUALLY, IF YOU ARE GOING, UH, LET'S SEE, WESTBOUND ON SIXTH FROM THE EDGE OF THE PARK.
RIGHTER, WHAT'S THAT ROAD? I ALWAYS FORGET THE NAME OF THE, UH, SO HERE'S THE CORNER SIXTH, AND IT'S THAT DUCK INN RIGHT THERE INTO THE TRAIL.
THERE'S TWO BENCHES RIGHT THERE.
WELL, IT'S SIX APART OFF A PARK.
IT'S OFF A PARK, BUT HERE'S PARK.
AND THEN HERE'S WHERE THE HOMELESS ARE.
AT THE EDGE OF THE, THE LITTLE WRECK.
AN AMAZING TOOL TO THE EDGE OF LITTLE REC.
AND THEN IT'S BECAUSE I COUNTED THE HOMELESS IN THAT AREA.
I WENT DOWN AND LOOKED AT THE, UH, UH, OKAY.
WE'LL GET THE, YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT UP.
BUT THESE ARE, UH, A COUPLE BENCHES THAT WEREN'T INITIALLY I, MIKE GAVE IN THE FUTURE.
MR. WE BRING, KEEP US IN THE WARRIOR HERE.
UM, THESE TWO BENCHES WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY ON OUR, UM, BENCH, UH, TRIBUTE BENCH MAP.
UH, BUT, UH, WE WENT OUT AND DID A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLORATION AND IDENTIFIED 'EM AND, AND PUT THEM INTO THE, INTO THE MAP.
SO, UM, LET'S ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE ON OUR DOCUMENTATION SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE BEING CLEAR TO THE FAMILY HOW THE RENEWAL WORKS AND WHAT HAPPENED.
SO WE DON'T GO THROUGH THE NEWS STORIES AND THE EMBARRASSMENT OF THIS LAST INCIDENT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, IF WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE DOCUMENTATION AND THAT WAY IT WILL BE THERE.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS TO ASK, ASK, BUT LET'S, PARTNERS OF PARKS, LET'S KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS BEFORE WE ASK IT.
SO LET'S HAVE THE ANSWER IN OUR PACKET.
SO WE WANT BACK DOCUMENTATION AND PREVIOUS, WELL, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE FAMILIES UNDERSTAND THAT THE SO 10 YEAR LEASE, 10 YEAR LEASE TO RENEW THAT.
AND THEN THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO THERE.
AND, UM, IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE HAD THAT THE FAMILIES COULD HAVE HAD IT, IF IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THE OTHER ONES THAT HAVE HAD IT FOR, YOU KNOW.
WELL, AND THEN, UM, I DON'T THINK THEY WERE CONSISTENT ABOUT HOW THEY RIGHT.
AND WE KIND OF GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT MESSINESS.
THEY, THE, THE, THE PARKS THAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE RECORDS, WHICH REALLY, AND I MEAN THAT, I JUST LOOKED AT THIS AS WE HAVE TO HOLD ONTO EVERYTHING FOR IN PERPETUITY ALMOST.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU DON'T THROW IT AWAY.
I, I'M MARRIED TO A CPA, SO, SO YOU KNOW, ME STUCK.
WE HAVE A GARAGE FULL OF STUFF.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S HOW YOU LOOK AT IT AND IT, IT'S, HOW WOULD YOU NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION? I DON'T KNOW.
SO THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY INCLUDED.
AND THEN WILL WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE REED FAMILY THERE? UH, NOT CERTAIN YET, BUT I WILL CHECK WITH PARTNERS OF PARKS.
AND THEN LET US KNOW AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO RIGHT BY THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, AND IT'S MONROVIA.
MONROVIA GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO, UH, UM, COLORADO.
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COOL.SO YEAH, THERE'S TWO BENCHES THERE.
THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT'S, UM, BEING, UM, UM, UTILIZED FOR TRIBUTE DEDICATION.
IT IS KIND OF WEIRD THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING THAT FAR OUT FROM OUR QUOTE UNQUOTE MARINE AREA OF OUR JURISDICTION'S.
COLORADO LAGOON LA IS IN IS PART OF IT.
IT IS OUR FOOTPRINT, BUT IT ENDS, BASICALLY IT GOES AROUND COLORADO LAGOON.
UM, ANY FURTHER COMMENT QUESTION ABOUT, UH, NOT ON THAT ONE.
UH, MOVING ON TO, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE, UH, MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THE, UH, THE ITEMS WITH EACH, UH, EACH SUPERINTENDENT AND, UH, THE CHIEF AND, UH, SERGEANT.
ANYTHING YOU GUYS, UH, HAVE OF INTEREST THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT.
UH, WE DO HAVE THAT COMING BACK UP ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ABOUT THE KITE BORDERS AND THE, UM, THERE WERE SPECIFIC DIGS THAT YOU, IN PARTICULAR, SO IF WE COULD, UM, DID YOU LISTEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING? YEAH.
UM, AND IT MADE IT LOOK LIKE YOU HAD NO PROCESS.
SO IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH US SOME OF YOUR VENDOR PROCESS AS A PART OF YOUR REPORT, THAT'D BE GOOD.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, I PROMISE YOU GUYS THAT WE WOULD BRING IN, UH, SOMEBODY FROM OUR, UH, UH, PROCUREMENT SERVICES DIVISION.
UM, JUST, JUST ANSWER THE MAIL TO IT YEAH.
WITHOUT ANSWERING THE MAIL TO IT.
AND THAT WAY WE, THAT WE ASKED AND YOU ANSWERED.
AND WE'RE GOING TO COUNSEL, UM, THIS TUESDAY, UH, WITH THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HELD OVER TO AUGUST 20TH DUE TO COUNCIL MEMBER PRESENCE.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID THAT'RE THAT PREVIOUS MEETING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO YEAH.
AND HOLD IT OVER TILL THE 20TH.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA HAVE DONE OUR FIRST STRIKE.
SO, UH, AND THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY INVESTIGATED AND WE FELT CONFIDENT THAT THERE WAS A PROCESS AND THAT WE FOLLOWED IT.
UH, AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE GOT SOME, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'M GETTING A LOT OF PHOTOS, UM, IS ALL THESE, UM, UH, ENTREPRENEURS WITHIN THE, OUR AREA, UM, THAT THERE'S PEOPLE, THERE'S VENDORS ALL ALONG THE PIER.
THERE'S VENDORS ALL ALONG THE BEACH.
UM, I'D LIKE TO, I MEAN, I I JUST, NOT TO INTERRUPT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE, YOU KNOW WHAT, ON THE A HUNDRED JET SKIS THAT ARE NOW POSITIONED OVER THERE ON, I WENT OUT AND WALKED THOSE DOCKS, THOSE DOCKS AREN'T SAFE FOR OH, I THINK HARBOR LIFE.
AND YOU GOT A HUNDRED JET SKIS GOING OUT OF THERE EVERY DAY.
HOW DO THEY, WITH THE SAFETY, THAT'S WHAT WORRIES ME WITH THE SAFETY COMPONENT OF IT.
YOU'RE BRINGING PEOPLE FROM AROUND ANYWHERE TO COME DOWN.
MANY OF THEM HAVE NEVER JET SKIED THE 9 0 9 PEOPLE.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO CATALINA AND THEY HAVE TO SIGN A DOCUMENT THAT IF THEY GET ALL THE WAY TO CATALINA AND THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE, IT COSTS THEM AN EXTRA THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR OWN BOAT RIDE HOME.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, IF YOU READ THE CONTRACT THAT I'M NOT GOING, OH, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME.
'CAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT NEVER BEEN IN THE WATER.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A ARDUOUS, THAT'S AN ARDUOUS RUN ON A, ON A WAVE DAY.
I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S LOW WAVES, IT'S NOT FLAT.
I'VE BEEN SICK ON THE EXPRESS.
BUT I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT THAT WOULD AT LEAST GO THROUGH US.
WHEN YOU HAVE A, A COMPANY COMING IN THAT IS DOING A HUNDRED JET SKIS, JUST, JUST THE NOISE VALUE, JUST THE POLLUTION VALUE, JUST THE DISRUPTION OF BOATS COMING IN AND OUT.
HOW'D THEY GET THAT WITHOUT GOING BY US AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S, YOU GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LA RIVER OTHER THAN SOUTH SHORE LAUNCH RAMP.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A LEASE HOLD WITH THE MAYA AND ALL THEM, THE HOTEL.
AND THAT GOES THROUGH, SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A PART OF OUR, OUR DOMAIN.
NOW, IF THEY WANTED TO, LET ME CIRCLE BACK.
LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION HERE FIRST.
WELL, IT'S KIND OF A BIGGER DISCUSSION.
SO YOU'RE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GO, IT'LL BE A LITTLE SLOPPY, BUT IT'S OKAY.
LET ME START WITH THE STREET VENDORS.
SO STREET VENDING IS PROTECTED BY, UH, CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY BILL NINE OR 12
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SOMETHING.AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT'S SUP THAT SENATE OR ASSEMBLY BILL SUPERSEDES, UH, LOCAL OR COUNTY LAWS THAT GOVERN THE ABILITY TO SELL ON CITY PROPERTY.
BUT I KNOW, BUT ABOUT THIS VIOLATION, THE COASTAL COMMISSION, LIKE THE, THE KITE BORDER GUYS HAVE STATION SET UP ON THE BEACH AND THEY'RE SELLING STUFF.
THEY'RE NOT, AND THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY WERE THIS WEEKEND, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO RENT THEIR EQUIPMENT AND THEY CAN SELL ITEMS, IS WHAT THEY CONTEND WHEN YOU ASK 'EM.
AND THEY SAID, BRING YOUR NAME UP.
NO, THAT'S TODD LELAND TOLD ME I COULD SELL FROM HERE.
WHAT WAS GO, GO GO THIS WEEKEND AND GO, WHAT WERE THEY SELLING? GO SELL.
OH, THEY SELL ALL KINDS OF EXTRA STUFF.
WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE PROBABLY THREE, FOUR TIMES, I GUESS.
THEY SEE US COMING AND THEY PUT IT AWAY BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING, HAVEN'T BEEN OKAY.
THE LAST TWO, THREE MONTHS, I'VE BEEN SO MUCH MORE AWARE WITH THE VIOLENCE ALONG THE BEACH PATH.
AND, UM, AND I FEEL LIKE HAVING ALCOHOL OUT THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PERMITTED YEAH.
UM, AND I KNOW THEY REALLY CAN'T MAKE MONEY WITHOUT SELLING ALCOHOL, BUT, WELL, LET ME ASK, I GET MIXED EMOTIONS ABOUT THAT.
LET ME ANSWER THE OVERARCHING OKAY.
SO BASICALLY THEY, THE STREET VENDORS AND PEDDLERS HAVE AN OVERARCHING PROTECTION FROM THE STATE THAT SUPERSEDES, UH, CITY AND COUNTY, UH, CODE.
AND SO WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS IS DEVELOP A STREET VENDOR AND FOOD TRUCK POLICY.
IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND IMPLEMENTED INLETS, BUT IT IS YET TO BE APPROVED AND IMPLEMENTED IN TIDELANDS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
AND THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED THEIR REVIEW.
SO WE'RE WAITING ON THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF COASTAL COMMISSION FOR OUR STREET VENDING AND FOOD TRUCK POLICY TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE TIDELANDS.
THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TEETH AND ABILITY TO MOVE PEOPLE.
THEY CAN STILL SELL, BUT IT'LL BE WITHIN.
BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT BARBER OUT THERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S JUST, YOU CAN GET ANYTHING YOU WANT, UH, UH, DOWN AT THE BEACH, UH, IN A BRO.
AND WE'RE WORKING TO DO, TO MITIGATE SHOULD THEY EVEN BE DOWN THERE THEN? UNTIL COASTAL COMMISSION IS APPROVED? I WOULD THINK THAT THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE DOWN THERE THEN UNTIL IT'S APPROVED BY COASTAL COMMISS.
THEY HAVE OVERARCHING STATE APPROVAL FOR PROTECTION TO SELL AS A, AS A STATE MANDATES WHATEVER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STATE CAN SUPERSEDE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS LONG AS THE, THE, THE LAW IS MORE STRINGENT.
AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO OVERARCH THAT LAW IF IT'S MORE STRINGENT.
SO YOU CAN'T GO LESS THAN THE STATE LAW.
YOU CAN GO MORE THAN THE STATE LAW.
I WELL, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEYS DO.
AND BASICALLY IT'S, HEY, THEY GET TO KIND OF DO WHAT THEY WANT.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, AND IF THEY'RE SELLING FOOD, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT.
NOW, THE SECONDARY ASPECT OF THAT IS WHO OVERSEES AND WHO ENFORCES THE BUSINESS LICENSE.
AND WHO, WHO ENFORCES THE, THE HEALTH PERMIT? SO BUSINESS LICENSE CHECKS GO THROUGH FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, BUSINESS SERVICES, HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, UH, PERMIT GOES THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THOSE AGENCIES RIGHT NOW ARE IN A EDUCATION FIRST POSTURE.
SO THEY'LL GO OUT AND EDUCATE, TELL PEOPLE, HEY, YOU NEED TO GET THIS, YOU NEED TO GET THIS.
AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND THEY'LL EDUCATE SOME MORE, AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND POTENTIALLY CITE.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A PROCESS, BUT WE'RE REALLY IN NEUTRAL UNTIL THE COASTAL MISSION APPROVES OUR STREET BENDING AND FOOD TRUCK POLICY FOR THE TITHINGS AREA.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE A FRAMEWORK, FRAMEWORK OF ENFORCEMENT.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER FOR US.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THAT.
AND SO CAN WE PROACTIVELY SAY SOMETHING TO COASTAL COMMISSION ABOUT OUR CONCERN? WHERE DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL? UH, I'D RECOMMEND THIS GOES THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT WITH, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AT THE POINT OF HISTORICAL INTEREST.
UM, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO THE COAST COMMISSION AS YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS.
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RIGHT.WE CAN GO TO, I CAN GO TO CINDY ALLEN AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, UH, UH, OKAY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A HOT BUTTON ITEM RIGHT NOW WITH, UH, UM, CD TWO, CD THREE, AND CD ONE, UH, JUST ON THE BEACH, UM, WITH VENDORS SPECIFICALLY AT NUNI ROAD DUE TO THE, UH, THE ONGOING ISSUES AFTER HOURS AT NIGHT.
SO, UM, WE'LL SEE THAT, I GUESS.
AND HE, AND, AND, AND RIGHTLY SO.
I MEAN, HE'S DENIED THINGS AND HE GOES OUT THERE AND LOOK WHAT THEY, LOOK WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND NO ONE THINK, NO ONE, NO ONE DOES ANYTHING.
WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, WHEN I SAY OUR IS, UH, THE MARINE BUREAU MANAGEMENT TEAM'S BIGGEST SCRIBE IS WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT ARE DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
AND THEY ARE IN PERMIT AND THEY ARE OUT THERE DOING COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE TINY, YOU KNOW, VENDORS THAT ARE COMING IN AND JUST NIPPING AWAY AT LITTLE PIECES OF THEIR BUSINESS.
WE'VE BEEN PUSHING, UH, BUSINESS SERVICES REALLY, REALLY HARD.
WE'RE PUSHING PD TO A CERTAIN EXTENT TO HELP US OUT.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD, WE'RE, WE'RE PUSHING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
LIKE, HEY, CAN YOU GET OUT HERE AND EDUCATE? EDUCATE.
THEY ONLY HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.
HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS NOT, IS NOT STAFFED.
SO I'VE BEEN PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT ALL THEY CAN DO.
AND, WELL, THEY CAN DO A LOT WHEN THEY WANT TO.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH INSPECTORS.
AND, UM, JUDITH LONG IS THE, IS THE MARINE BUREAU, UH, MANAGER OVER ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
AND SHE USED TO REPORT TO ME
SO SHE'LL, SHE'LL WORK WITH US.
AND THEN TO COMPLETE THAT, UH, LINE OF, WITH HARBOR LIGHTS, UH, THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF THAT DOCK THAT ARE IN BETTER SHAPE THAN THE REST.
UH, THE OWNER OF, UH, JET SKI DE CATALINA HAS A SECTION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE REST LOOKS LIKE.
HIS SIDE OF THE DOCK, HE ACTUALLY TAKES VERY, VERY GOOD CARE OF.
IT'S, IT'S, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S IN PRISTINE SHAPE, BUT IT IS, IT'S NOT IN DANGER OF GETTING RED TAGGED ANYTIME SOON.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE GANGWAY, HIS STUFF IS, AT LEAST THE LAST TIME I CHECKED ABOUT A MONTH AGO, IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND HE HAS ALL OF HIS JET SKIS AND LINED, LINED UP THERE.
AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN THE GANGWAY, YOU GO TO THE LEFT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST ARMAGEDDON OF, OF JUST DAMAGED AND DERELICT DOCK.
UH, AND ALL OF THAT'S GOING TO BE TORN OUT.
UH, I BELIEVE THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR, THEIR, UH, PERMIT APPROVALS.
NOW THEY'RE JUST ONBOARDING A COMPANY TO DO IT FOR THEM.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE JET SKI BUSINESS SIDE OF THE DOCK.
UH, I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE OWNER TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET TO STAY THERE AND CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
SO I'M, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT IS.
WE, DID WE EVER FIND OUT WHERE THE OTHER DOCK CAME THAT WASHED UP ON SHORE? I MEAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW.
IT DIDN'T COME FROM NEWPORT BEACH.
WE CAN SAY WITH RELATIVE CERTAINTY THAT IT DID COME FROM THAT SIDE AREA.
IT'S, UH, WE CANNOT SAY WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT GUARANTEE, BUT IT PASSED THE EYE TEST.
UH, WITHOUT GOING OUT AND DOING, UH, CONCRETE, UH, LAYING ON CONCRETE D-N-A-D-N-A, UH, WE COULD RELA RELIABLY SAY THAT IT CAME FROM THAT AREA.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY FRUSTRATION THAT, THAT I HAVE IS WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND WHEN WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING, NOT YOU, UH, BUT THE CITY TURNS A BLIND EYE AND JUST DOES THINGS WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT TRULY AFFECTS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT.
I STILL GO BACK, I WALK DOWN, THERE IS ELECTRIC BIKES DOING 25, 25, 30 MILES AN HOUR ON THAT BIKE PATH.
AND THEY'RE ALL KIDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE HELMETS ON.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE JUNIOR HIGH KIDS THAT MOM AND DAD GIVE THEM THEIR THING AND THERE'S NOTHING.
SO, UH, I, AND WE HAD ONE LAST NIGHT.
WE WERE WALKING ON THE BLUFF LAST NIGHT, AND THIS KID'S RIDING HIS
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BIKE AT 30 MILES AN HOUR ON THE GRASS OF THE BLUFF, AN ELECTRIC BIKE AND LATER ON WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.AND LIKE, THERE'S THE SAME KID.
SO CHECK, CHECK THE LEGISLATION AND LEGISLATION.
AS LONG AS IT HAS PEDALS, IT'S UH, UM, CONSIDERED A BICYCLE WITH ELECTRIC ENHANCEMENT.
SO, UM, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT IT IS GONNA BE CHANGED.
IT'S JUST THEY GO ON GROUPS NOW AT LONG BEACH STATE.
THE MINIBIKE, THEY'RE ALL ELECTRIC.
IT'S GOTTA SCARE YOU FROM THE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES UPS DRIVER STANDPOINT.
THAT'S WHERE I, I GET THE COMPLAINTS FROM.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA FORCE THIS.
IT'S NOT JUST UPS, IT'S THE FEDEX DRIVERS.
IT'S THE POSTAL SERVICE GUYS THAT ARE AFRAID TO WALK THE STREET.
'CAUSE WHEN THERE'S 1450 OF THEM COMING DOWN, WHAT WAS THE FATALITY THIS MORNING WITH THE PEDESTRIAN AT LOINS? AND ARE YOU KIDDING? EAST? ANYWAYS, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, YEAH.
I I I THINK THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION OF THIS GREAT COMMISSION.
WE GO BY IT AND THE CITY PUSHES THINGS AND JUST LETS THINGS GO THROUGH WITHOUT EVEN TELLING US.
I MEAN, WHY ARE WE HERE SOMETIMES? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GONNA DO WHAT THEY WANT.
WELL, I, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT 'EM AND PUT 'EM ON THERE JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE DOCK STUFF.
SO THEN WE ARE, THEN WE GO BACK BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT IF THERE'S GONNA BE A FATALITY, IT'S WHEN ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
SHOULD WE BRING SOMETHING UP MADAM CHAIR? SHOULD WE BRING SOMETHING UP AGAIN? UH, I THINK WE ASKED LAST TIME TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE TO TELL US HOW THAT HAD GOT APPROVED AND WHY THEY'RE PUSHING IT SO QUICKLY FOR A 12 MONTH FOR A ONE YEAR TEST.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME.
THEY'RE GONNA BE RENTING 'EM THERE, BUT THEY ALREADY DO IT.
I MEAN, ALL THE PRIVATE THINGS, SOMEBODY'S CLEANING THEIR BOAT.
LOOKS LIKE A DRONE OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT'D BE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME IN AND TELL US.
AND I SAYS, THERE'S NO POLICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING NOW IN REGARDS TO IT, UM, AFTER THE ONE GENTLEMAN GOT BEAT UP, UH, WHERE THE LIGHTHOUSE IS, AND THAT WAS LAST MONTH, UM, HE GOT BEAT UP BAD.
JUST TOLD THE KIDS, YOU CAN'T BE RIDING HERE.
AND THEY SURROUNDED HIM AND BEAT HIM UP.
AND THIS ISN'T KIDS OF COLOR AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT WAS, IT WAS FIVE SPOILED WHITE KIDS THAT, YOU KNOW.
AND I'LL SAY THAT I, RICKY GERVAIS, I DON'T CARE.
UM, BUT I, I'M REALLY GETTING TIRED THAT THEY DO THINGS AND THEY DON'T LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
AND NOW YOU'VE BASICALLY, YOU HAVE SOME DRIBBLES GOING THROUGH AND NOW YOU'RE BASICALLY OPENING UP STORM DRAINS AND SAYING, HERE YOU GO.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GIVE 'EM TO GIVE YOU A WEIRD, UH, A YEAR'S A YEAR'S GO AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SCOOTERS AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BIKES.
AND THERE IS MORE ELDERLY PEOPLE AND HANDICAPPED PEOPLE WALKING THOSE BIKE LANES NOW.
I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T WALK FAST.
YOU KNOW, I HAD OPEN HEART SURGERY.
I DON'T, I'M NOT A FAST WALKER, BUT HEY, HEY, HEY.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE SAND.
'CAUSE THE SAND WILL SIT THERE AND RUIN THE BALL BEARINGS THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR BIKES.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BIKE RIDERS THAT RIDE IT ON THEIR, THEIR GREAT SPEEDY LITTLE BIKES.
AND NOW WE HAVE AN ENHANCED BICYCLE, AN ELECTRIC ENHANCED BICYCLE AS THE STATE CALLS IT.
UM, THAT CAN DO 25, 30 MILES AN HOUR.
SO, I MEAN, ARE THEY GONNA POST SIGNS? ARE WE POSTING SIGNS AND NO MORE THAN 10 MILES AN HOUR? UH, WILL THERE BE POLICE OUT THERE, MARINE? I DON'T KNOW.
NO, I THINK IT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS.
AND JUST IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE NUMBER.
THE NEAR MISSES ARE FRIGHTENING.
THEY TAKE UP THE WHOLE STREET TWICE WHEN I'M GOING DOWN SECOND STREET ALL THE WAY BACKED UP PAST PCH.
AND WHEN YOU GET UP THERE, ALL THE KIDS ARE ALL LINED UP.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING ON A FROSTED FROSTED CUPCAKE TO GET A CUPCAKE.
AND THEY'RE GOING INTO THE NEW ICE CREAM PLACE.
YOU GET THAT? SO THESE ARE NOT COLLEGE STUDENTS.
THEY GOT ON THE FREEWAY THE OTHER DAY.
UH, PALO URS CUT ON THE FREEWAY.
'CAUSE YOUR JUDGMENT'S NOT THERE YET.
NOW IF THEY HAD THIS WHEN YOU AND I WERE IN SCHOOL, WHEN WE WERE IN SCHOOL, WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW.
BUT IT, IT'S MAYBE YOU WOULD BE, I I WOULDN'T BE
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT, IT ALL GETS POSTED.
AND THAT'S WHAT FRUSTRATES ME.
BECAUSE THESE KIDS WILL POST IT AND IT'S ON SECOND STREET.
IT'S ON THE BY TRUCK AND NO ONE'S FOLLOWING UP TO GETTING IT.
WHY AM I GETTING IT? AND NO ONE'S, NO ONE'S DOING ANYTHING.
AND THE POLICE SAY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LAW
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OF STATUTES THAT IT'S A BIKE AND THEY'RE OVER THIS CERTAIN AGE.I CAN'T PULL 'EM OVER ANYMORE TO CHECK THEIR AGE.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS AN ACTION? I, I JUST WANT TO KNOW MORE FROM THE CITY COUNCILMAN OR CITY COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE.
WHY DID YOU APPROVE IT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH US? THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
'CAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY US, OR AT LEAST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I THINK BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I DON'T THINK THEY THINK OF US, BRUCE.
WELL, AND, AND THAT, THAT DOES, WHEN YOU HISTORICALLY LOOK THROUGH ON THE MAP, WHAT'S WITH THAT IS THE MOST COMMON REASON THEY WOULD BE IN THE PAPER OVER THE LAST 60 YEARS WAS SAYING, HEY, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE RUN THIS BY.
AND SO WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED IT.
SO THERE'S NOTHING, THE MATTER WAS SAYING THAT, LOOK AT THE PARKING, NO OFFENSE.
THE MAX STOPPED THE PARKING THING.
UH, WHEN, WHEN MAYOR, UH, GARCIA ATTEMPTED TO PUSH THAT THROUGH AND THEY CAME AND TALKED TO US AND WE SHUT IT DOWN.
UM, 'CAUSE WE HAD THE POWER TO DO IT.
WELL, WE HAD THE PRESS AND THE POWER TO DO IT.
WELL, WE ADVISE HER PRETTY WELL.
NOT EMPOWERED TO DO MORE THAN ADVISE.
I WOULD LOVE TO, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE COME AND EXPLAIN TO US, UH, WHAT THEIR THOUGHT PATTERNS ARE ON, ON THAT AND THE SAFETY ASPECTS OF THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE BIKE.
MIMI NASHER COME BY AND TELL US WHEN YOU SAY FIND BY ME WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE OR YOU TALKING SECOND DISTRICT, THIRD DISTRICT.
UH, IT IS UNDER CINDY ALLEN'S DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE SHE'S THE ONE THAT APPROVED IT.
SO ON THE OTHER VENDORS, THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY MORE DUFFYS OUT THERE NOW.
THERE'S SO MANY MORE OF THE KAYAK ONES THAT SET UP SHOP.
WHAT, AND THAT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE A FATALITY WITH ONE OF THESE VENDORS THAT'S GOT SUBSTANDARD STUFF.
WHAT WE DO IS, WHEN IT'S BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, IF WE HAVE A CF NUMBER, IF WE HAVE AN ONLINE BUSINESS, UH, UH, WEBPAGE, WE BRING THAT TO BUSINESS SERVICES AND THEY'LL MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT POTENTIAL VENDOR AND GO FROM THERE.
AND THAT'S THE SAME STORY IS, HEY, DO YOU HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE? HEY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU AUTHORIZED? SO WHAT, SO WHAT CAN WE DO THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR CITIZENS TO REPORT IT? THERE YOU GO.
I MEAN, TO HAVE AN OPEN, WE CALL IT UPS 800 LINE, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO HAVE AN 800 LINE.
IF SOMEBODY HAS CONCERN, YOU KNOW, CAN WE ASK FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE GO LONG BEACH APP THAT SOMEBODY SENDS A PHOTO WHEN SOMEONE'S OPERATING? WHAT, WHAT CAN, WHAT TANGIBLE THING SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE'S ARE TEXTING ME PHOTOS OF STUFF, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A LICENSE OR NOT.
I'M NOT, I CAN'T RUN OVER THERE AND SAY HELLO.
YOU KNOW, BUT, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU GET 'EM TOO.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THIS? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THIS? AND I'M GOING, WELL, NO, BUT WHEN I'M WALKING DOWN THERE, I WILL, BUT I'M, I'M NOT THE MARINE.
HAVE YOU CALLED THE MARINE BUREAU? WELL, AND I, AND WE DON'T WANNA JUST HAVE IT A FLOODING THAT CALLS TO THE MARINE BUREAU.
THE PLATE THERE IS FULL ALREADY.
IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR THEM TO GO DIRECTLY TO REPORT IT FROM A BUSINESS LICENSE STANDPOINT? WHAT, WHAT MECHANISM IS THERE? I LOVE THAT.
I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH BUSINESS SERVICES, BUT I'LL ALSO TOUCH BASE WITH GO LONG BEACH AND SEE WHAT, UH, JUST TO HAVE IT ON GO LONG BEACH.
BECAUSE IF, IF YOU HAVE 20 PEOPLE CALLING ON THE SAME THING IN THE SAME AREA, THERE'S A CONCERN.
AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO ONE DOING THAT OTHER THAN ON NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT JUST GETS FLOODED WITH, WITH MEAN PEOPLE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SO WELL AND MISINFORMATION.
IS IT, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT'S LEGITIMATE AND IS SO, BUT IF THEY TAKE A PICTURE AND SEND A PICTURE WITH A DATE, WITH A, WITH A DATE AND AN ADDRESS, OR AT LEAST A, OR IF THEY'RE PROMPTED WITH A CF NUMBER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THAT, THAT, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO CONNECT.
IF THEY'RE DOING A CHARTER VESSEL, IT ALLOWS US TO CONNECT, CONNECT THE REGISTER OWNER TO THE POTENTIAL ACTIVITY.
SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE AN ACCUSATION.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES? WELL, YOU'RE THE LATEST ON OUR JAS OUR, UH, YEAH.
SO WE GONNA BRING THEM IN OR BRING A, UH, CAN WE DO SOMETHING WITH EITHER, UH, POLICE, UH, FIRE'S ALREADY BEEN, REMEMBER WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING EVERY, EVERY MONTH.
MAYBE IT IS LIFEGUARDS THIS TIME.
LET ME ASK CHIEF MEDINA, THEY, THEY'RE FINISHING UP THEIR PROGRAM
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RIGHT, UH, THIS FRIDAY.SO MAYBE IF IT MIGHT BE A FUN ONE TO BRING IN THE, UH, THE INSTRUCTORS.
LEMME SEE AND DO A CERTIFICATE FROM US TO THEM OR FROM THE CHAIRWOMAN AND THE TEAM TO THEM.
AND ISN'T SABRINA ONE OF THE YES.
SHE'S, THAT WOULD JUST BE AS HAS IT JUST BEEN WORK COMMITMENTS WHILE SHE HASN'T BEEN ATTENDING THIS SUMMER? YEAH.
YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT HIDING THINGS.
BUT YOU KNOW, MY MIND, HOW MY MIND WORKED.
WHAT IS IT I DIDN'T ASK? SO I'M, I'M PROUD OF MYSELF.
AND THAT REMINDS, I'M GONNA CALL, UH, UH, JEFF WILLIAMS. JUST LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
UM, I'M GOING TO REQUEST
I'M NOT GONNA
I'M GONNA REQUEST THAT THEY, THEY LOOK TOWARDS SOMEONE THAT IS A BOATER.
SOMEONE THAT IS A PERMITEE, SOMEONE THAT IS IN OUR MARINAS, WHETHER IT'S HERE OR DOWNTOWN OR NOT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE A MEMBER OF OUR MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION BE A CURRENT STANDING PERMITTING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THAT WAY.
I'VE CALLED PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN TO US YEAH.
AND, AND RECOMMENDED THAT THEY APPLY.
BUT I, PEOPLE AREN'T RE THEY DON'T WANNA BE A COMMISSIONER.
I TALKED TO, UH, UH, THE, UH, BOAT OWNERS, ASSOCI, UH, BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, YESTERDAY.
AND I TOLD 'EM, AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL PUBLICIZE IT THROUGH, THROUGH THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, JUST TO BRING THAT LITTLE BIT OF ELEMENT OF A PERSON THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BETTER KNOWLEDGE THAN, THAN WE HAVE WITH IT.
AND JOE, I THINK HAS THE, THE MOST KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO, I THINK BOATS, YOU'VE BEEN ON THERE FOR FOREVER AND YOU BRING A LOT OF THAT KNOWLEDGE TO IT.
AND IT, IT'S, I THINK HAVING, YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT IT'S DAY TO DAY AND IT'S EXPERIENCING THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, MA'AM.
NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR BOAT OVER THE WEEKEND AND RIGHT.
AND THEY'RE MAKING THE PAVES SPREAD LINE AND YEAH.
AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND HEARING ALL THE STUFF.
AND MAYBE THAT'S THE THING TO DO, IS MAYBE I SHOULD BE WALKING THE DOCKS MORE AND SEE WHO'S ONE OF THOSE GUYS OUT THERE.
AND I JUST, THAT'S WHY I TAKE MY DOG WITH FIVE POOP BAGS, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT I HAVE 'EM WITH ME.
AND THEY'VE NEVER, SHE'S NEVER DONE IT.
BUT IT'S SO MUCH FUN TO WALK IT AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON IT AND SIT AND TALK WITH 'EM AND JUST ASK 'EM OPEN QUESTIONS.
THEN THEY THINK, ARE YOU A COP? NO, NO, NO, NO.
BUT I ALSO SERVE ON THE COMMISSION.
DO YOU HAVE, WHAT ARE YOUR PROBLEMS? AND I'VE CALLED YOU NUMEROUS TIMES, HEY, THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
OR THE, THE, THE SIGN OVER HERE IN, IN NAPLES FOR NO FISHING.
CAN YOU PUT ANOTHER ONE UP? AND THOSE, IT ALL GETS DONE BECAUSE OF OUR EYES.
AND, AND THE, UM, THE, ALSO THE, THE STUFF IN THE, UM, JETSMAN FLOAT, UM, AND I READ IN THE YACHT CLUB MINUTES THAT THEY'RE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE ELECTRICITY ON THIS EQUIPMENT.
THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA BE THE TEST STUFF FOR, OH, THERE'S, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN A COUPLE, UM, UH, TRASH SKIMMERS, UH, JUST TRASH COLLECTING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND IT'S THROUGH, THROUGH THEIR JUNIOR, JUNIOR, JUNIOR DIRECT THE, GOSH, WHAT IS THE JUNIOR FLAG? THERE YOU GO.
UH, IS, UH, THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT DOCK THAT'S GONNA COLLECT A LITTLE BIT MORE DEBRIS AND TRASH.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A JOINT, UH, A JOINT PROJECT WHERE IF WE CAN SUPPLY A LITTLE BIT OF THE MATERIAL OR, OR THE UTILITY, THAT'S FINE.
SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY WAS DOING A LOT ON THAT.
AND THEN THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT IN THAT SAME SET OF MINUTES, THE CONFLICT WITH THE SEA SCOUT BASE AND THE DRY STORAGE, AND THAT, THAT'S NOT GOING WELL.
IT'S JUST THEY, THEY HAVE TO COME TO AGREEMENT ON HOW THEY WANT TO USE THAT SPACE.
I WENT AND LOOKED AND IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF TRASH.
IT'S, IT'S BOATS THAT SHOULD BE RECYCLED.
AND IT'S, UM, UNSIGHTLY OUR POSITION FROM THE MARINE CORPS BUREAU STANDPOINT IS THAT THEY ARE 50 50 OCCUPANTS OF THAT SPACE.
YOU KNOW, THE TWO OF THEM SHOULD WORK IT OUT TOGETHER.
UH, I'VE TOLD BOTH PARTIES IS THAT THERE CAN BE NO MODIFICATIONS OR ADJUSTMENTS OF THE FOOTPRINT UNTIL THEY BOTH AGREE TO WHAT THAT MODIFICATION ADJUSTMENT'S GONNA BE.
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IS THIS GIRL SCOUTS AND, AND SEA SCOUTS? NO, THIS IS THE YACHT CLUB AND SEA SCOUTS.SO THE, THE BALL IS REALLY IN, IN THE COURT OF THE, THE JUNIOR PROGRAM.
I GUESS DIXON AND SANG MEISTER HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
AND SO THEY'RE AT ARMS ON, IS SAGMEISTER PART OF THE SEA SCOUTS? YEAH.
SO, AND HE STOLES A LOT OF HIS STUFF THERE.
WELL, IT'S ABUSE OF OUR SYSTEM.
AND THEN THEY WERE STARTING TO DEALS WITH THESE.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE BIG TRI AROUND STILL THERE.
THAT'S NOT OVER THERE NOW, IS IT? NO, NO.
THAT THING WAS IN OUR FOOTPRINT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? A LITTLE WHILE? WE, WE DIGRESS WITH THAT
MY, LET'S NOT AGONIZED OVER THE PAIN OF THE PAST, BUT, SO THEY'VE, WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE WITH EACH OTHER FOR A LIFETIME HERE.
BOTH PARTIES HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE THAT ANY ALTERATION, ADJUSTMENT,
AND I KNOW WE GET IN THE PAST NOTES FROM CITIZENS THAT DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S FAIR ACCESS TO THAT, ALTHOUGH THAT'S A CITY ASSET.
AND AGAIN, THAT COMES DOWN TO THE, THE CONTRACT LEASE.
MOU AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
WHAT'S THE CRANE? CAN YOU HELP ON THAT ONE? I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.
IT'S THAT HOIST THAT'S ON THE END OF THE, UH, THE, UH, THE SEA WALL.
AND, AND THAT'S ONLY FOR, THAT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR PUBLIC USE, RIGHT? DOESN'T HAPPEN.
OH, IT'S JUST FOR THE, THE YACHT CLUB SORT OF TAKES CONTROL OF IT.
IT'S THE, SPECIFICALLY THE, THAT ONE, THE ONE AT GG IN SHORELINE.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE I BELIEVE AT THE US SAILING CENTER.
ALL FOUR OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, I FORGOT ABOUT THE SAILING CENTER.
UM, SO IS THAT TO BRING BOATS OUT OF THE WATER WITH THE PERMISSION AND OVERSIGHT OF, OF THE YACHT CLUB? THE AGREEMENT BODY.
SO IT'S, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HAVE SOMEBODY BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION AS MARINE COMMISSIONERS.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UM, MAYBE WE COULD DO IN THE NEXT MARINA READER A LISTING OF THOSE FOUR CRANES AND THAT THOSE ARE ACCESSIBLE.
DID YOU KNOW, SHOULD YOU KNOW THAT THESE CRANES ARE ACCESSIBLE BY ALL AND EACH OF THEM HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS AND, BUT THERE'S CAVEATS.
YOU NEED TRAINING, YOU NEED TO SIGN OFF SOME THINGS.
BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE.
AND THAT JUST TAKES THE, THAT JUST TAKES BOATS FROM THE PARKING LOT AND PUTS 'EM OUT AND DROPS 'EM INTO THE WATER.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S USED FOR? MM-HMM.
THE OTHER ONE IS, I ALWAYS STATE IT BECAUSE I WAS DOWN THERE THE OTHER DAY SMOKING A CIGAR ON THE GREEN BELT, UH, RELAXING AND WATCHING, UH, THE RESTAURANT THERE ON THE CORNER, UH, CALLED A BOATHOUSE ON THE BAY WAS NOT QUITE OPEN.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WAITING TO GO ONTO THE BOAT TO GO TO DOWNTOWN, UH, ONE PERSON OPENED THE DOOR TO THE RESTAURANT THAT WAS NOT OPEN YET.
AND 11 PEOPLE WALKED INTO THE RESTAURANT TO USE THE RESTROOM.
AND THEN I WALKED OVER AND I SAYS, YOU GUYS CAN'T BE USING, IT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN GO.
THERE'S ONE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE THING.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, WE'RE GOING HERE.
I'M NOT GONNA, I AM GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THE PEOPLE WERE VERY, VERY SURE THEY WERE 9 0 9.
I'M JUST, CAN I SAY THAT? 9 0 9? NO, WE'RE GOING IN THERE.
OH, THE DAY I TOOK THE BOAT, NOBODY WAS THAT AGGRESSIVE.
I JUST WAS LIKE, FLABBERGASTED.
AND I'M LIKE GOING, AND WHERE DO THEY ALL PARK? RIGHT ALONG THAT ROW.
AND THEN THEY GO OVER THERE AND THEY'RE THERE ALL DAY.
THOSE PARKING SPACES GET BOOKED UP.
OTHER THAN OF COURSE, THE, THE YACHT, THE, UH, THE HARDWARE.
AND THE SPOTS, IF YOU HAVE A, A PERMIT, THANK YOU.
UM, IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT TO GO.
BUT I, THAT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.
AND I DON'T THINK JUST FOR THE RESTAURANT OWNERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THERE ARE GOOD BATHROOMS THERE IN THAT PARKING LOT WHERE PEOPLE PARK FOR FREE.
UM, AND THE RESTROOMS ARE STILL CLOSED.
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ASKED THAT A COUPLE TIMES.I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE LEASE OF HOW CAN THEY CLOSE RESTAURANTS AS PART OF THEIR LEASE ON THAT PROPERTY.
WHOEVER OWNS 'EM, WHOEVER RUNS THE LEASE, THERE'S NO RESTROOMS OPEN.
THOSE ARE PUBLIC RESTROOMS, NOT RESTAURANT RESTROOMS. THEY'RE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. YEAH.
THAT SHOULD BE USED BY THE PUBLIC.
UH, AND IT SHOULD BE CLEANED AND SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.
I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE IF IT'S PART OF THEIR, UH, IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK, UM, FOR THAT AREA.
BUT IF IT'S A PUBLIC RESTROOM, IT'S A PUBLIC RESTROOM AND THEY'RE STILL LOCKED.
AND ANY MORE NEW, UH, UM, NEW BUOYS GOING OUT WITH LIGHTS ON 'EM?
WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE IDEAS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE ORANGE BUOYS THAT ARE INTERMEDIATE ALONG THE SWIM LINE ALONG BAYSHORE, UH, THERE, AND THEN THE ORANGE BUOYS IN THE COLORADO LAGOON.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE MARK, YOU KNOW, THE YEAH, YEAH.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, GOING ILLUMINATED ON THOSE.
UM, I JUST THINK IF THEY CAN DO ONE MORE BUOY HERE, GOING OUT TO THE, THERE'S ONE BUOY THERE GOING OUT TOWARDS THE JETTY.
BUT, UM, TO HAVE JUST THAT LIGHT ON THAT ONE WOULD BE JUST, IT JUST WONDERFUL.
I MEAN, IT JUST, WHERE DO YOU GO? YEAH, THIS ONE'S GREAT THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE.
THAT ONE'S, UH, UM, IT REALLY LOOKS GOOD AT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I HAD, I GOTTA, I'M UPSET THAT WE DIDN'T PUT IT OUT IN DURING, UH, STANDARD TIME.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OUT HERE AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
IT WENT OUT RIGHT BEFORE THE SUMMER.
YOU GO HOME AT THREE, RIGHT? IS THAT I DON'T WORK PAST, I'M SORRY, THAT'S ON TAPE TOO, BUT SORRY.
BUT IT DOESN'T GET DARK UNTIL 8 30, 9 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, SO I DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE.
SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT INCLUDED IN THAT MANAGER UPDATE? NO.
WE GOT, WE PUT A WHOLE LOT OF CRAZY STUFF.
AND I, I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER LITTLE UPDATES AND THINGS THAT WE'LL KIND OF DISCREETLY TAKE CARE OF OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD.
THE GUYS A THOSE, AND I THINK I HAVE SOME OF THOSE OPEN ITEMS THAT I'LL JUST WRITE YOU IN AN EMAIL.
UM, MINOR ENOUGH THAT WE CAN ANSWER QUIETLY.
BEING, BEING MY FIRST EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ENDED OUR MEETING, UH, OUR, OUR OFFICIAL MEETING THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD THE GROUP THAT CAME FORWARD AND TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE STADIUM SURFERS, THE GUYS THAT WERE BEHIND.
AND, AND WE HAD SAID SOMETHING LIKE, WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
'CAUSE REMEMBER WE TOLD 'EM, WE, WE CAN'T COMMENT, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FOLLOW UP ITEM OR IF WE, WE JUST WERE GONNA HAVE IT AS A DISCUSSION, OR I THINK WE, I I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ON BECAUSE THEY WERE, GOD BLESS 'EM, THEY WERE ALL THERE TO TALK AND WE COULDN'T BECAUSE WE BROKE FORUM, UH, OR QUORUM.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT ON OUR AGENDA AND HAVE THEM COME BACK AND, AND TALK ABOUT IT.
I NEED A LITTLE FURTHER TIME WITH, UH, CHIEF MEDINA AND MARINE SAFETY OKAY.
TO KIND OF DEVELOP A PATHWAY FORWARD.
UM, BECAUSE, AND WE JUST HAVE TO EXPLORE WHAT THESE, UH, BECAUSE THEY DID BRING UP GOOD POINTS AND THEY, THEY PROVIDED ME WITH A GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION OF OTHER ENTITIES, AGENCIES THAT ARE KIND OF DEALING WITH THE SAME ISSUE.
SO IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND HOW WE BEST MODIFY OUR, OUR RULES AND CODES TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE.
AND, AND THE FACT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO STOP PEOPLE FROM BOARDING, BUT WE WANT STOP PEOPLE FROM, UH, USING ERODING OUR, AND IT DOES ENVIRONMENTAL.
WE, WE WALKED OUT THERE, I WAS OUT THERE WITH KITTY, AND I MEAN, THERE'S NO SAND ANYMORE IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS BECAUSE WHEN THOSE GO BY, THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S PUTTING OUT A, IT'S PUTTING OUT A CHOP THAT COMES RIGHT IN.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BE AN OLYMPIC VENUE.
SO, I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP NOW.
AND, AND IT'S ALL THOSE GUYS THAT LIVE ON CLAREMONT.
IT'S THAT WHOLE CONTINGENT OF THE INVESTOR MARK AND BRUNER AND, UH, THE SKIERS.
UM, WELL, AND LIFEGUARDS AND YEAH.
THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR YEARS.
THE CROOKED DUCK, DO YOU KNOW HIM? OH, OH, ELLI? NO, NOT PI ALLEY, NO.
SO IT'S, I YEAH, LET'S, LET'S THINK OF A WAY.
IT'S GONNA BE A MODIFICATION OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
LET'S GIVE THE HEADS UP TO MEDINA AND HAVE HIM INCLUDE
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THAT AS PART OF HIS REPORT.WELL, THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT ON.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S JUST MAYBE THAT HE CAN SAY HE'S AWARE.
HE, HE KINDA, HE'S, HE CAN DO THAT IN A CLEVER WAY JUST TO SAY IT'S BEING REVIEWED.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT THIS IS SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE TOOK IT SERIOUS AND IT IS BEING REVIEWED AND BEING LOOKED AT.
AND, AND SO THAT WHEN WE ASK HIM, THEN AGAIN ON IT, HE'LL HAVE HIS ANSWER READY.
WELL, WHAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, IS HE CAN SAY HE'S EVALUATING IT, AND THAT WAY HE'LL SAY, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT SOME I WANT HIM TO LOOK GOOD.
WELL, WHAT WE'RE WE'RE GONNA DO IS, IS WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU WHEN IT'S GONNA TAKE A, A FEW MONTHS.
UH, WE WILL, WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU A MUNICIPAL CODE MODIFICATION LANGUAGE FOR A MUNICIPAL CODE MO MODIFICATION THAT WILL ADDRESS THE CONCERN FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT.
UM, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, I DON'T KNOW YET.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE, THE HOMEWORK AND THE DUE DILIGENCE OF LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING, AND THEN HOW WE MODIFY WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF MARINE STADIUM.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WE WILL, I'LL TALK TO CHIEF MEDINA AND LET HIM KNOW, HEY, UH, MAKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS.
UH, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE A WEEK OR, OR A MONTH TERM AROUND.
NO, BUT HE CAN SAY SOMETHING GENERIC ENOUGH THAT YEAH.
AND THEN HE'S ALSO PREPARED IF WE ASK FURTHER TO SAY THAT.
THE FOLLOW UP COMMENT THAT WE'RE IN, THAT'S IN WORKS.
LAST TIME TO BEAT UP TODD ON ANYTHING.
WE'LL HAVE THE, THE MAINTENANCE REPORT.
RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT, THAT'LL BE BEFORE THE MEETING.
AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING NEW ON THE BLUFF STUFF? I DON'T KNOW.
UH, THE ONLY THING NEW IS THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH, UH, TITLE INFLUENCE.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE, UH, THEY'RE UPDATING THE OKAY.
THE 20 20 15 BLUFF PARK MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL SOON BECOME THE 20 24, 20 25 BLUFF PARK MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THAT TITLE INFLUENCE IS ENGAGED.
YEAH, THAT IS, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, STARTING AND DEVELOPING THAT WORK.
DO YOU WANNA TALK ANY MORE ON THE SOLAR POWER STUFF AT ALL? UM, IF YOU GUYS WANT, UH, YOU CAN, UH, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE JUST ENGAGED WITH A CONTRACTOR TO, TO PROCURE UP TO NINE MORE TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE PLACED IN, UH, COLORADO LAGOON THIS SEASON NINE.
YOU GONNA HAVE NINE IN COLORADO? UH, IT'S EITHER EIGHT OR NINE.
I BELIEVE IT'S NINE, BUT MAYBE WAIT NINE MORE.
OR IS, AND I KNOW SOLD, THEY WOULD LOVE PR ON THEIR STUFF.
SO CAN WE BUY 'EM YET? WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE, UH, PURCHASE ORDER.
I'D JUST LIKE APPROVED THE NO, I'M JUST SAYING, CAN WE BUY THEM YET BY, UH, PARTS PARK? CAN WE BUY THEM? OH, BUY.
SO DON'T WE HAVE A NEW, WE HAVE OUR NEW, UM, PARTNERS AND PARK.
AND WE, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.
I BELIEVE YOU MAY MEET HER NEXT THURSDAY WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE TRIBUTE.
WELL, MAYBE WE'LL DO SOMETHING IN ADVANCE AND THAT WAY.
WE'LL GO TO THE, WE'LL GO TO EL DORADO AND JUST MEET HER THERE AND SAY, HEY, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY FAR INLAND, BUT OKAY.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE ALWAYS IN THE OFFICE.
OR ACTUALLY, FORTUNATELY NO POND IS NOT UNDER.
HOW YOU DO IT TO ME ALL THE TIME.
NOW, SURFING USA, UM, I WANTED YOU, YOU GUYS ARE, UH, SAFE, ANA, THE AD HOC.
UM, I TALKED TO, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
I ALSO TALKED TO, UH, UM, THE PLANNING, UH, PLANNING GROUP.
UM, SO FIRST THING OF THE FORMAT, THE LETTER CAN'T GO DIRECTLY TO PLAN PLANNING.
WE, YOU GUYS, WE AS THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, ARE A ENTITY THAT
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REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.SO YOUR LETTER WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR VIA TFF, AND THEN, UH, UH, IT'LL BE, UH, CALL TO ACTION FOR CITY DEPARTMENTS.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, I'VE HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE PLANNING GROUP.
UH, THEY'VE GIVEN ME AN INDIVIDUAL TO, TO DIRECT OH, GOOD.
THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TOO, SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO, UM, I'VE MADE, UH, SOME EDITS HERE JUST TO KIND OF MAKE, PUT IT IN THAT FORMAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS, UH, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT, UH, EVEN WAS STATED IN THE PRESENTATION IS THE CITY'S UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE ANY, UM, UH, FUNDING.
SO I JUST, UH, CLEANED THIS UP A LITTLE BIT JUST TO, JUST TO STATE, HEY, YOU'RE, YOU WANT TO ENGAGE ABOUT, HEY, LET'S GET THIS DONE.
HOW CAN WE HELP TO SUPPORT PLANNING OR WHATEVER CITY DEPARTMENT IN ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GET A PHYSICAL LOCATOR IN PLACE? GREAT.
UH, SO AS, AS A GROUP, UM, OR AS A COMMISSION SINGLY, I COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, THE GENTLEMAN OUT AND MEET WITH THE ASSEMBLY PERSON, UM, WHO'S A SURFER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND SEE IF WE GET STATE FUNDS TO DO IT TOO.
WE JUST GOT SIX POINT, WELL, IT WAS LAST YEAR, 6.2 MILLION FOR THE USS IOWA.
THERE'S FUNDS OUT THERE THROUGH THE STATE.
UM, THAT WOULD TAKE IT, NOT TAKE IT, IT'D STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY, THOUGH.
IF THE CITY'S APPROVED THIS, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY.
THEY JUST DON'T GIVE IT TO THE NONPROFIT AND SAY, HERE'S YOUR DOLLARS.
WELL, THE PORT ALSO HAS ITS COMMUNITY FUNDING.
AND THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR, THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR FUNDING AMOUNTS.
BUT, SO WHAT PLANNING WILL BE IN THIS, IN THIS SCENARIO IS THERE'LL BE YOUR, YOUR CONDUIT AND YOUR AVENUE TO APPROVAL OF PLACING A PHYSICAL LOCATOR.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, UH, THEY WERE ACTUALLY DOING IT OVER HERE ON THE PENINSULA FOR THE, WHAT WAS THE OLD, UH, IT WAS A, WAS IT A BATHHOUSE OR A COMMUNITY? OH, YEAH.
UH, THEY'RE PLACING A, A, A PLAQUE MARKER ON ONE OF THE PLACES ON THE PENINSULA.
THAT ONE WENT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
BUT THIS WILL BE KIND OF THE SAME PROCESS WHERE IT WAS A PRIVATE AGENCY OR GROUP THAT PAYS FOR THE, THE MATERIAL, THE PLAQUE AND THE INSTALLATION.
BUT THEY'RE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PLANNING GROUP IN PUBLIC WORKS TO GET THEIR APPROVALS TO DO IT.
AND THEN WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'LL ASK, YOU KNOW, UH, PUBLIC WORKS PLANNING ASKED US, HEY, ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THIS? WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO RECOGNIZE AND COMMEMORATE SOMETHING.
SO THAT'LL BE THE SAME PROCESS WITH THIS, BUT WE WANT TO FORMAT YOUR LETTER TO BE A CALL TO ACTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
I'M JUST THINKING TOO, IN THAT THOSE AREAS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS, UH, THAT MIGHT BE WILLING TO ALSO HAVE IT POSITIONED THERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY LOOKED AT THAT ONE AREA, OKAY, HERE'S THE AREA, HERE'S THE POINT.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THE RESTAURANTS SETTING.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF, LET'S LET, THAT'S COMMITTEE WORK WE'RE GETTING INTO.
SO YOU CAN OFFER THAT AS A SUGGESTION IF YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO, UH, MY REQUEST TO YOU GUYS AS THE AD, AS A PORTION OF THE AD HOC, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THESE CHANGES? I, I LIKE IT.
IT, IT MAKES, IT, IT, IT TAKES IT OFF AND PUTS A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT IN THE SENSE OF IT, BUT DOESN'T, DOESN'T FORCE DOESN'T FORCE THE, IT'S FORMATTING MORE THAN ANYTHING.
SO I WAS GONNA CALL, UH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER CAGER, ANA, UH, TODAY.
JUST SAY, HEY, UH, THIS IS, WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.
I WOULD SEND IT BACK TO HER, ALLOW HER TO MAKE THE, THE CHANGES.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A FINAL DRAFT FOR, FOR OUR MEETING WITH COACHING FROM TAM.
GOTTA DO THESE THINGS BACKWARDS FORWARDS NOW.
AND I WOULD THINK TOO THAT THIS WILL OPEN A DISCUSSION WHEN, WHEN THE APPROVAL PROCESS ABSOLUTELY.
IT GETS SOME OF THE OTHER, OTHER FOLKS AROUND THE TABLE TO, TO CHIME IN TOO.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO READY, SO WE COULD SIGN IT THERE ON THURSDAY.
THAT WOULD BE, I THINK IF YOU GET THE APPROVAL, UM, FROM THE CHAIRWOMAN.
I THINK YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE TOO, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I THINK IT GETTING TO US, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE
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FORMAL LETTER THEN ON THE FORMATTING SIDE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.SO I THINK IF WE DO THAT, IF WE DO THAT THIS WEEK OR THE FIRST, NEXT WEEK BEFORE OUR MEETING, AND THEN EVERYBODY'S APPROVED AND WE SIGN IT THERE.
JUST A COUPLE THINGS ON THIS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, IS, UH, IT SAYS SPECIAL REQUESTS.
ALL YOUR REQUESTS ARE SPECIALISTS AND THEY'RE JUST REQUESTS.
AND THEN NOTHING THERE IS UNIQUE.
AND THE ONLY REASON I'M TAKING OUT PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS BECAUSE I WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE A OVERARCHING APPROACH TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH ALL CITY STAFF ON THIS, NOT THESE, THESE WERE EXCELLENT EDITS AND NO, IT'S GREAT.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME ON THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER, MA'AM? NO, THIS WAS VERY WELL DONE.
AND WE DID THIS MONTH WAS MIKE BAKER PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, AND MAYBE WE'LL, UM, ADJOURN HIS HONOR.
NO, WE NEED TO DO FIRST AND SECOND ON THE SECTION.
PERSON NOW I SAID WELL WE'RE, DO THAT, WE ALWAYS DO THAT AT THE MEETINGS.
WITH THERE BE NO FURTHER ACTION.