* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY. [00:00:02] I GUESS I NEED A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TO APPROVE . THE ONLY MEMBER BESIDES ME. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE UM, UH, THE MINUTES IS WRITTEN. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING? GUESS DON'T SAY AYE. AYE. I APPROVE. AND THE MAILS FROM UPDATE THE MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE WHICH OF HUNDRED 58,000. 11,000 IN MAY. THAT'S NOT TOO BAD. YEP. I KNOW. UM, LONG BEACH POST HAD PUT OUT SOMETHING THAT HAD LIKE HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND DONATE. YEAH. AND WE SAW AN INCREASE IN DONATIONS AT THE MSC, SO IT MIGHT HAVE COME FROM THAT. SEE, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED TO HAPPEN. YEAH. GOOD. OKAY. UH, AND I SEE A COUPLE OF THE GRANTS THAT WE DID. UH, THE PEOPLE NEVER USED THE MONEY. CORRECT? YEAH. SO HOUSE OF HAVEN THAT THOSE FUNDS WENT BACK IN, THEY NEVER USED IT. WE REACHED OUT TO THEM. YEAH. PAUL REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GONNA SUBMIT SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID. SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT MONEY JUST WAS REDISTRIBUTED BACK INTO THE FACT. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. I'M GLAD WE HAVE THAT AS PEOPLE HAVE TIME LIMIT ON IT. OKAY. WE HAVE TWO OUS STILL TO FUND. OKAY. NOW WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE UTILITY BILLS AND FUNDRAISING, BOTH OF US . DO WE, DO WE HAVE TO, UH, MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MAYOR'S FUND UPDATE? YEAH. YES. THAT'S WHY THEY SAID ALL IN FAVOR THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. THAT WAS WE VOTED. I THOUGHT WE DID. OH, LET'S, NO, LET'S PUT A, A MOTION IN. SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT EITHER. SO. YES. MOTION IF YOU YEAH. MOVE TO, YEAH. TWO . I MOVED TO FILE THE MAYOR'S FUND GETS CONFUSING WHEN IT JUST TWO . YEAH. I WAS LIKE, WAIT, WE'RE MOVING ON. DID WE, I FEEL LIKE WE FORGOT TO DO SOMETHING. AND THE SAME THING WITH THE MAYOR'S FUND UPDATE. YES. THAT'S THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. GO AHEAD. AND YOU'VE MADE THAT ONE. I MADE THE MOVE. I MOVE THAT WE RECEIVE AND FILE THE MAYOR'S FUND. UPDATE. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AND THEN I'LL JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC PRESENT. YEAH, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC. WELL IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK . OKAY. OKAY. THERE'S THE TWO UTILITY BILLS. ONE AND, UH, AT THE, THAT'S NICE. WHAT IS THE ONE THAT WE SENT OUT LAST YEAR? THAT'S THE ONE WE SENT OUT TWO YEARS AGO. AND UH, THAT ONE IS LAST YEAR. THAT'S ONE WE SENT OUT LAST YEAR. AND I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ON IT, WHY WE CHANGED IT. WE GO BACK UP TO THE, UH, 2-YEAR-OLD ONE, THE, UH, VIE, SORRY. AND WHERE IT SAID IT, IT TOLD HOW MONEY WAS BEING SPENT AND, UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS A $15 AND, BUT IT IN THE 80 AND THREE 50 AND THAT MONEY WAS BASICALLY GOING TO THE CENTER. AND UH, THAT'S WHAT IT SAID. AND WE FOUND OUT THAT WASN'T REALLY HAPPENING. SO, AND TRUTH IN ADVERTISING, WE SAID, WELL WE'VE BEEN, NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT THAT APPROACH WAS BETTER. AND THAT BRINGS A QUESTION, I'M JUST GONNA POP IN. PAUL, WHAT IF WE DID, CAN WE GIVE MONEY FOR THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE CENTER? I DON'T SEE RAISING WAY. WE COULDN'T, WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, LIKE WAY, WAY BACK. YEAH. MORE AS US BEING LIKE A DISTRIBUTOR OF RESOURCES. LIKE I THINK IT GOT DONE WITH GIFT CARDS FROM MY RECOLLECTION. THIS WAS FAR BEFORE LIKE ME STARTING, THIS WAS BACK IN LIKE TWO OR LIKE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. YEAH. AND LOOKING BACK THROUGH THE MAYORS FUND STUFF. SO LIKE AGAIN, WE'VE IN THE PAST, LIKE WE COULDN'T DIRECTLY DO ANYTHING, BUT WE WORKED AS LIKE AN INTERMEDIARY. YEAH. UM, I MEAN, HI, AS FAR AS LIKE, I'M HESITANT TO LIKE, TAKE ANY FUNDING OUT OF THIS UNLESS IT'S LIKE SOMETHING OF LIKE ALL FUNDING DIRECTLY GOES TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. LIKE IF WE'RE LIKE AN INTERMEDIARY FOR LIKE [00:05:01] GIFT CARDS OR SOMETHING. YEAH. LIKE, I'M FINE WITH DOING THAT. BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCE WHERE LIKE OUR SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS DON'T NECESSARILY, AND THEY HAVE GAPS. SO LIKE OPEN TO IT, BUT ALSO LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING SOMEWHAT SPECIFIC AND LIKE, WE'D WANT TO MAKE SURE LIKE ANY ORGANIZATION COULD TAP INTO THAT. RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH BEING LIKE AN INTERMEDIARY ON LIKE CERTAIN THINGS. YEAH. SO, WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER LIKE REALLY GETS OUT TO THE WHITE PEOPLE AND THE HOMELESS AND ALL THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN DO THINGS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE ON LIKE WATER DISTRIBUTION, WHERE LIKE WE PURCHASE THE WATER, HEY, HERE'S HOW TO SIGN UP AND LIKE COME GET WATER TO DISTRIBUTE OUT TO PEOPLE. SO LIKE WE'RE COOL WITH DOING STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE WE'RE THE ONES THAT HOLD ONTO IT. AND LIKE ANY ORGANIZATION THAT'S SERVING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS CAN COME AND LIKE GET RESOURCE. LIKE I'D BE OPEN TO THAT. I'M SOMEWHAT HESITANT TO TAKE IT FOR LIKE VERY SPECIFIC STUFF. THAT'S US. CAN WE DO, UM, YEAH, CAR, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? CARTS? LIKE SO THAT THEY CAN GET FOOD LIKE A SUBWAY CART OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT? ? UH, THE CITY IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST TO DO THAT. LIKE THE CITY HAS A VERY STRICT POLICY AROUND LIKE GIFT CARDS. IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT FINDING SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THAT. I THINK IF WE GAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT, LIKE FOR US, I MEAN LIKE THE FUNDING THE CITY IS GONNA WANT LIKE YEAH WE COULD GO TO GIFT CARDS. LIKE THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AGAINST THE RULES. BUT IF WE DO IT ON THE CITY SIDE, LIKE I GOTTA GET A W LIKE I GOTTA GET YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. LIKE OH I REMEMBER WE, YEAH, WE HAD TO DO THAT. YEAH. OKAY. YOU'RE RIGHT. LIKE THEY'RE VERY STRICT ON LIKE COLLECTING ALL TAX RELATED DOCUMENTS. EVEN IF YOU'RE GIVING OUT LIKE A $10 GIFT CARD, THE ONLY ONE THAT WE GET AWAY WITH NOT DOING THAT IS HOMELESS COUNT. JUST BECAUSE OH, THAT'S THE EXCEPTION OF COURSE. SO THAT MEANS THOUGH, REALLY WHEN WE'RE SAYING WHEN WE AUTHORIZE WE GIVE MONEY TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION TO GIVE OUT GIFT CARDS, DO WE GET ANY INFORMATION? I THINK LIKE YEAH, IF WE WERE GONNA GIVE SOMEBODY GIFT CARDS, WE'D WANT SOME SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY TRACKING SYSTEM. AGREE. ABSOLUTELY AGREE. RIGHT? LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SUBMIT A NAME, AN HMIS NUMBER AND A SIGNATURE THAT LIKE YOU GOTTA HAVE A SIGNATURE FOR EVERY GIFT CARD TO YEAH. YEAH. SO WE CURRENTLY DO OFFER, SO SOME OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DONE GIFT CARDS IN THE PAST AND I HAVE THEM COMPLETE A LOG. SO IT'S LIKE THE FIRST TWO INITIALS OF THEIR NAME, LAST INITIAL OF THEIR LAST NAME. MM-HMM. . AND THEN, UM, THEY HAVE TO SIGN OFF AND THEN THE PERSON THAT WAS ACTUALLY HANDING OUT THE CARD HAS TO GIVE ME A DATE THAT THEY SIGNED OFF THE CARD. OKAY. SO THERE IS A LOG IN PLACE AND A FEW OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE OFFERED GIFT CARDS. I THINK GP BLANKETS OF LOVE DID IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID IT THIS TIME AROUND, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY DID IT THE FIRST TIME AROUND. MM-HMM. . SO THERE HAS BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE A FEW OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS ARE HANDING OUT GIFT CARDS AND WE HAVE THEM COMPLETE A LOG. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. WE'VE BEEN HELPING, LATELY WE'VE BEEN HELPING A LOT OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW A FEW. ONE GUY, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GUYS KNOW HIM, HIS NAME IS TERRANCE. UM, BLACK GUY HAS AN APP WHERE HE IS VERY RESPECTFUL AND WANTS TO GET OFF THE STREET. SO I KEEP, I'M TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT. SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CARD. SHE CALLED MY CELL PHONE. I WAS BUSY. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAVE THE NUMBER. BUT WHEN YOU GUYS HAD, UH, DMH COME, SHE IS THE ONE THAT WANTS TO HELP HIM. SO SHE SAYS, PLEASE CALL ME AFTER YOU TALK TO HIM. AND I HAD A LONG TALK TO HIM AND HE WANTS TO HELP. SO I REALLY WANT TO GET HIM OFF THE STREET. BUT HE'S IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN LIKE GIVING HIM THE THE CARDS SO HE CAN GET FOOD. SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF ORGANIZATIONS CONTINUE. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK BECAUSE I THINK THEY, WELL WE'LL GET TO THAT MORE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TWO BRANDS THAT WE HAVE. BUT UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAYBE SHOULD PUT GENERAL COMMITTEES SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE UP THE FACT THAT THERE'S HOW WE BASICALLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IF IT GOES THROUGH YOU. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN WE'RE MORE, AGAIN, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO BE LIKE AN INTERMEDIATE AREA. YEAH. BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO TAKE NO. SOMETHING THAT'S JUST THE SYSTEM. I KNOW. I KNOW. I KNOW. OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVELOPES WE SENT OUT AND UH, FUNDRAISING AND SUCH. MM-HMM. . SO I WONDER IF WE LAST YEAR'S [00:10:01] ENVELOPE DIDN'T WORK PARTICULARLY WELL. THERE WAS OTHER PROBLEMS TOO THAT MAY OF THE TIME WE PUT IT OUT. BUT UM, IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WE'RE GIVING OUT SPECIFIC AMOUNTS. UH, I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT FORMAT FOR THE ENVELOPE THAT'S MORE APPEALING TO PEOPLE. MM-HMM. PEOPLE. SOME LIKE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THEIR MONEY'S GOING, YOU KNOW, AND UH, DO WE HAVE AN ELECTRONIC OPTION? WELL THAT WAS THE OTHER THING. I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE US ADD A ELECTRONIC OPTION TO THIS. THAT'S ALL. I MEAN I SEE THE Q BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? LIKE WHAT'S THE WEBSITE IT TAKES YOU TO? IT'S COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. YEAH. I MEAN I THINK IT SHOULD WORK, RIGHT? IT WORKED LAST YEAR FOR SURE. I KNOW I SAW IT LAST YEAR. SCAN THE CODE NOW THAT CODE WILL TAKE THEM TO THE FOUNDATION. RIGHT. TO THE WEBSITE. YEAH. YEAH. SO PAUL, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A SOMETHING THAT WENT OUT INTO THE POST. MAYBE ENLARGE IT. I MEAN YEAH. MAKE IT MORE OFTEN. YEAH. I MEAN I HAVE IT HERE. WE COULD TRY TO SEE HERE. LEMME SEE IF MY PHONE RESTARTED. YEAH. I MEAN WE COULD TRY TO WHAT? SEE WHAT COMES UP THERE. OOH. LY. YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY, OH IT DID IT. YEAH. YOURS DID IT. YEAH. FROM HERE. YEAH. I, THAT'S THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. SO IT'S STILL LEAVING LIVE. IF YOU FOUND THE ENVELOPE TODAY AND YOU WANTED TO DO IT BECAUSE NOBODY WRITES CHECKS ANYMORE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE ON HERE. 'CAUSE LIKE TO YOUR POINT WHEN YOU WERE SAYING PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE WHERE THINGS ARE GOING, RIGHT? LIKE IF THEY COULD JUST ADD THAT LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LITTLE PIE CHART OR SOMETHING SO THEY CAN SEE LIKE WHERE THE PERCENTAGES ARE GOING. LET'S SAY GIFT CARDS 15% AND YOU KNOW, TOILETRIES WHATEVER, 30%, WHATEVER. YEAH. AND THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN HAVE A VISUAL, UH, SHOULD WORD IT THAT THERE, THIS CAN DO THAT AREN'T FUNDED. THIS DOES THINGS THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY FUNDED, UH, FOR HOMELESS SERVICES. THIS PROVIDES THE EXTRAS THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE NEED. AND UH, YEAH. SO WE NEED WORD THAT SOMEBODY YOU HAVE. GO AHEAD. I JUST, I WANTED TO JUST ASK ABOUT, UM, THE, THE POST I WANTED TO, SO YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING RECENTLY IN THE POST AND WE THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD HAVE, MAYBE THAT EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT OF THE UPTICK, UM, IN SOME RECENT IT SOUNDS MAY THOUGH. I DON'T, I THINK WELL NO, BUT THE, THE QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE OR CAN WE HAVE LIKE A TARGETED PART OF THE CAMPAIGN? WE DO. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO JUST ONE THING. WE'VE BEEN DOING ONE THING MOSTLY AND WELL, BUT ADDING ANOTHER COMPONENT, LIKE A TARGETED, YOU KNOW, WE GO TO THE POST AND THE PRESS TELEGRAM ON CERTAIN CERTAIN PARTICULAR TIMES OF THE YEAR MONTH. WE DO IT THREE TIMES IN THE YEAR JUST AS A, YOU KNOW, SAME ARTICLE, SAME THING THAT GOES OUT. YEAH. I MEAN WE TRIED TO GET SOME AROUND THE TIME THAT WE SENT THE ENVELOPE OUT. LIKE I WENT ON NPR AND YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. LIKE, LIKE JUST TO START LIKE A LITTLE BLURB ON LIKE SEASON OF GIVING. YEAH. AND UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT NPR IS GONNA GET US A WHOLE LOT 'CAUSE KIND OF CASTING A REALLY WIDE NET AT THAT POINT. UM, ARE WE PARTICIPATING IN LONG BEACH GIFTS? I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, SO THERE'S LONG BEACH GIFTS. IT'S HAPPENING BUT WE ARE NOT A NONPROFIT SO WE CAN'T CORRECT. WE BUT I'M JUST SAYING JUST ADDING IT AS A BUT THEY'RE IN IT. RIGHT. STRATEGIC. I THINK WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS THE MAYOR INTERVIEWED GP BLANKETS OF LOVE AND THEN THAT THEN GOT PRESS AND THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL 'CAUSE WE SAW AN INCREASE. SO I THINK THIS YEAR WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE FUNDED AND SEE IF WE WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION. RIGHT. YEAH. AND THEN MAYBE HAVE THE MAYOR DO YOU KNOW, A SMALL LITTLE BLURB OR LIKE A, A POST OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S DOING HIS FIRESIDE CHATS ANYMORE. HIS NO HE IS NOT. BUT I'M SURE WE COULD GET IT TO DO AND IF WE DECIDE TO SCHEDULE THAT AROUND NOVEMBER SEASON OF GIVING. YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE GOING DECEMBER, BUT LET'S NOT GO DECEMBER. 'CAUSE THE DECEMBER FOR ME IS TWO BUSY. MM-HMM. NOVEMBER TIME. WE KIND OF SCHEDULE IT AROUND SEASON OF GIVING AND THEN WE CAN GO AROUND AND DO THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM THE COMMITTEE MAYBE IS FLYERS. I THINK FLYERS ARE ALSO A REALLY NICE WAY TO DO IT. UM, ON THIS UTILITY ENVELOPE. JEN, IF YOU COULD LIKE SCROLL OUT, YOU CAN'T REALLY ADD A LOT. IT'S, IT'S SUPER SMALL. WE DON'T WANNA PUT [00:15:01] TOO MUCH. SO I THINK WE TOO SMALL D SEE YEAH. WE LIMIT WHAT WE WRITE. WE ADD A FLYER AND THEN WE LOOK AT AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AND THEN GO FROM THERE. THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE OUR BEST BET. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SAW WORKED LAST YEAR. YEAH. YEAH. AND SAY THE BIG THING IS TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING. MM-HMM. . WELL I THINK AGAIN, IF WE, NOT ON THE FLYER, BUT IF THEY, UM, ARE GOING TO, 'CAUSE I MEAN WE SENT OUT TO ALL OF OUR THAT WENT OUT TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. CORRECT. SO EVEN THOUGH THAT YOU HAVE THAT ENVELOPE FOR PEOPLE THAT INCLUDE STUFF, MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA PROBABLY DO IT ONLINE. YEAH. NOT TOO MANY. IT'S NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE USE CHECKS. CORRECT. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, BUT IT'S STILL GOOD INFO 'CAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE QR CODE AND GO DIRECTLY. AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE CAN UPDATE THAT PAGE TO GIVE THAT OVERVIEW. ALSO, I CAN REACH OUT TO MARGARET AND SEE IS IT POSSIBLE TO SEND IT TO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS? YEAH. I THINK THAT WAY IT GOES BEYOND JUST LIKE COUNCIL DISTRICT YEAH. NEWSLETTERS AND I DON'T THINK ALL OF THEM PUT IT IN THEIR COUNCIL DISTRICT NEWSLETTER. MM-HMM. SOME COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE MORE UP ON THERE. YEAH. UP ON THEIR LIKE MONTHLY NEWSLETTERS. AND SOME ARE LIKE TWICE A YEAR. SO, BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING OR PROPOSING IS THAT WE CREATED AS A STRATEGY AND CREATED CONTENT. WE KNOW WE PICK THE DATES AND WHAT WE WANNA PUT IN IT AND WE DO IT FOR ONE YEAR OUT. RIGHT. SO WE ARE ALREADY, WE'RE WE'RE COMING UP INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THAT WE'RE ENDING THE THIRD QUARTER HEADING INTO THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR. LIKE JUST, JUST PUTTING IT ON A STRATEGY. LIKE WE HAVE THE ENVELOPES JUST TO ADD IT IN SO THAT UM, WE KNOW EACH WHERE WHO, IF WE ARE DOING THE POSTS AND NPR AND ALL THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S ON A STRATEGIC CALENDAR. IT'S JUST A PART, IT'S A PART OF OUR FUNDRAISING EFFORT AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT JUST, UM, JUST BECAUSE WE WANT, WE WANT PEOPLE, WE DO NOT WANT TO, UM, LIMIT THE WAY WE GET MONEY. THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SAYING. WE, WE WE'RE GETTING MONEY ENVELOPES, WE'RE GETTING MONEY ELECTRONICALLY. WE WANT TO, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO, FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE, UM, ORDER FOR KNOW. THAT'S TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF YOU. I KNOW WE'RE NOT A NONPROFIT FOR LONG BEACH GIFTS, BUT THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THIS ON THE COMMITTEE'S BEHALF IS AND THEY ARE PARTICIPATING. SO, UM, AND I'M MY ORGANIZATION'S PARTICIPATING AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS 'CAUSE I KNOW HOW THAT PAGE IS SET UP. SO THEY CAN SET DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. SO THEY HAVE THEIR PROGRAMS AND THEY CAN HAVE A PROGRAM FOR MAYOR'S FUND. SO THEN WE CAN STILL PARTICIPATE IN IT. BUT WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH THEM. AND SINCE THEY'RE KIND OF, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE THE FISCAL SPONSOR TEAMS. ARE THEY AGENT JUST, YEAH. SO THEN IT, IT MAKES SENSE. SO THEY CAN DO THAT. SO WE CAN STILL PARTICIPATE. LET ME CONNECT WITH TARA. 'CAUSE I THINK WE ASKED LAST YEAR AND I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING, THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT. A BIT OF A HESITANCY TO COMPETE WITH THE FUND VERSUS LIKE WHAT THEY NEED INDIVIDUAL NON-PROFITS PUTTING OUT AT THE SAME TIME. GOTCHA. AND I MEAN THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF NON-PROFITS THAT LIKE COULD USE THE MAYOR'S FUND THAT DO PARTICIPATE DURING THE LONG BEACH GIVES. IS THIS, IS THIS ALL LIKE, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT IT WOULD BE STAFF WOULD BE YOU GUYS? CORRECT. OKAY. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF WE WANTED TO LAUNCH NOVEMBER, IT TAKES FOUR WEEKS FOR US TO GO TO PRINT. RIGHT. SO THEN I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE EVERYTHING COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER 16TH THE LATEST. THAT'S GONNA BE THE THIRD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER. SO THAT MEANS ENVELOPE NEEDS TO GO, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. UM, IF WE WANNA WORK WITH AN ORGANIZATION, WHO DO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE PUT TOGETHER SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET ON THE MAYOR'S CALENDAR, SEE WHAT WE NEED TO CONNECT ON, UM, FLYERS, IF THAT COULD BE READY. SO THAT WAY ALL THE UM, COUNCIL OFFICES, I DON'T KNOW, SOME DO, I THINK WEEKLY, SOME DO MONTHLY. WE CAN RELEASE AT THAT TIME. MM-HMM. . SO I WOULD WORK WITH A TENTATIVE DATE OF LIKE SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. THAT'S MONDAY. I WANNA SAY THAT MIGHT BE A MEETING DATE TOO, BUT I COULD BE WRONG. SO I PUT THAT DATE IN YOUR CALENDAR AND THEN WORK BACKWARDS. OKAY. I THINK ONE OTHER THING THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERING AND HAS COME UP IN THE PAST IS LIKE, IS IT ACTUALLY WORTH DOING THE ENVELOPE? THE ENVELOPE IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN US PRINTING LIKE A ENVELOPE SIZE FLYER AND WE COULD MAKE IT TWO SIDED WITH LIKE THE INFORMATION OF LIKE [00:20:01] WE COULD PUT THE QR CODE AND LIKE A WRITTEN OUT HOW TO GET TO THE WEBSITE AND JUST NOT TAKE PAPER CHECKS ANYMORE. LIKE I THINK LIKE WE'RE NOT GETTING A WHOLE LOT IN THAT WAY. YOU'RE NOT BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY IT'S PROBABLY USE THE CHECKS. A LOT OF THEM AREN'T GONNA BE. YEAH. AND I MEAN IT'S LIKE IF WE'RE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE MIGHT GET IN CHECKS THAT WE DON'T GET IS PROBABLY NOT THE DIFFERENCE OF LIKE PRINTING AN ENVELOPE VERSUS A FLYER AND BREAKING EVEN. WE EMPHASIZE ONLINE WE'LL GET GOING. I THINK REALLY IF WE MAKE IT EASY YES. THAT WORDS WHERE AND EASY PEOPLE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THIS ARE GONNA GO THINK CHECK BECAUSE IT'S AN ENVELOPE. MM-HMM. . SO IF IT'S ON ENVELOPE, I AGREE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. IF IT'S NOT AN ENVELOPE, THEY WON'T THINK THAT AND UH, THEY'LL THINK, OH, BUT I CAN DO THIS WITH THEM. YEAH. UM, QUICK QUESTION. INTERESTING ENOUGH. WHEN THEY, WHEN YOU DO CLICK ON THAT MM-HMM , IS THERE AN OPTION THEN TO SEND A CHECK IF THEY WANT TO? THERE PROBABLY IS. YOU CAN AT THE BOTTOM. I THINK IT'S LIKE TO PAY BY CHECK OR SOMETHING. WHAT DOES IT SAY? OH YEAH. CHECKING SAVINGS, CREDIT CARD. YEP. YEAH. SO THE OPTIONS, EVERYTHING THERE ANYWAY. YEP. SO WE REALLY DON'T NEED THE ENVELOPE. NO, I AGREE. AND WE CAN MAKE UP A MUCH BETTER FLYER WITHOUT IT BEING AN ENVELOPE. IT'S GREAT. WELL, AND UH, OKAY, SO HOW WE CAN, AND IT SAYS EVEN IF YOU WANT TO SEND A ACTUAL CHECK IN, IT GIVES YOU THE, THE ADDRESS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE DON'T LOSE ANYTHING BY ELIMINATING THE ENVELOPE. GOOD POINT. THANKS. GOOD QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY FLYERS LEFT? UM, CURRENTLY FROM LIKE LAST YEAR. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH THE EVENT THAT I'M DOING COMING UP ON THE 24TH, WE'RE GETTING AWAY LIKE A HUNDRED TO 200 SWAG BACKS. SO IT'D BE NICE TO STICK THOSE IN THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY. I THINK WE JUST HAVE THE ENVELOPE. UM, I THINK SOMEONE CREATED A FLYER. THERE IS A FLYER. OH, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT. IT COULD BE PRINT, TEXT, IT DOESN'T, YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY HARD COPIES. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. JUST THE PRINT FILE. I CAN, I'LL PRINT THEM, I'LL STICK THEM IN BAGS, BUT GET US A LITTLE BIT MORE NOTICE. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. AWESOME. YEAH. GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NOW WE NEED TO MEET IN A TIMELINE THOUGH. EVENING. SO HOW WE, HOW DO WE, DO YOU, WE NEED TO GET A DRAFT OF THE FLYER. WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. DO YOU GUYS HAVE, LIKE, ARE YOU USING CITY STAFF FOR MARK, YOU LIKE MARKETING TO DO YOUR FLYERS OR IS YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT DOING IT? THE FLYER WAS DONE BY THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. UM, SO I WOULD SAY IT'D BE DONE BY THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. WHICH, NO, IT'S FINE. I WAS GONNA OFFER, I THINK IT WAS SARAH OR, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT I KNOW IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE DID IT. WHAT'S SUSAN MEMBER? THE PAM. OH, I THINK IT WAS PAM. IT WAS PAM. MM-HMM. IT WAS SARAH AND PAM WHO DID IT. YEAH, I CAN TOTALLY, YOU CAN FROM THEM DO THAT. SO WHATEVER. PERFECT. THAT WORKS. YEAH. GRAPHIC DESIGN. SO I COULD DO THAT. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO OH, YOU ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY. I'M LIKE, OKAY, ARE WE ABLE TO REACH OUT LIKE IN THAT WAY ACROSS TO, OH, I WILL FIND IT. I KNOW I HAVE IT, I JUST HAVE TO LOCATE IT AND THEN I CAN SEND IT AND THEN IF SHE, IF OH NO, I, YOU KNOW, BROWN. YOU KNOW, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, OKAY. YEAH. WE CAN SIGN LIKE THE COLOR NUMBERS ON LIKE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I NEED. JUST ALL OF THE, THE BRANDING. YEAH. WE DON'T USE EVERY ONE HOME ANYMORE. YEAH. WHAT'S THAT IN THE BOTTOM LEFTHAND CORNER? IT WAS LIKE OH, THE PREVIOUS STRATEGY NAME. OKAY. UNDER THE PREVIOUS MAYOR. BUT, OKAY, SO WHAT IS NOT, WHAT IS OUR MESSAGE THOUGH TO THE PUBLIC AS TO HOW THE MONEY'S GONNA BE USED? AS I SAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ON IN THE SENSE THAT YOUR MONEY WILL FUND THE STUFF THAT YEAH. REGULAR FUNDS WON'T, YOU KNOW THAT THAT APPROACH. WELL BEING ABLE TO DO, LIKE HE SAID, THE POSTCARD, THE TWO-SIDED POSTCARD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DESIGN IT WHERE IT CAN STAY. YEAH. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I THINK SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE NEED YOUR HELP OR YOU CAN HELP US HELP, BLAH BLAH. YOUR FUNDS WILL DO X, Y, Z. I WOULD JUST NEED A, YOU KNOW, LIKE VERBIAGE. YEAH. AND THEN I'LL ARRANGE IT. YEAH. WE DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY PUT AN AMOUNT LIKE THEY DID IN THE OLD ONE, WHICH YOU SAY THIS MONEY WILL MAY BE USED FOR THESE TYPES OF, RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, TYPES OF THINGS. YEAH. YOUR DOLLARS WILL GO TOWARDS EXTRA. I THINK IN A SENSE THE EXTRA THINGS THAT GIVES THAT PERSON THAT LITTLE EXTRA PART THAT GETS THEM OUT OF BEING HOMELESS. BECAUSE SO OFTEN IN MY WORK, UM, IT CAN BE JUST SUCH A SMALL THING THAT STOPS THEM. IT KEEPS THEM FROM MAKING THAT SHIFT. AND SOMETIMES [00:25:01] IT IS THAT SIMPLE LITTLE THING BECAUSE PEOPLE WANNA KNOW MONEY OR SOMETHING. IT TAKES THEM OVER THAT STEP. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN ONE THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WAS LIKE, PEOPLE FEEL MORE ATTACHED WHEN THEY THINK LIKE, OH, X AMOUNT BUYS THIS. YEAH. RIGHT. AND IT'S LIKE, THIS IS LIKE AN EXAMPLE TO THE DEGREE AND IT'S LIKE, THIS COULD BE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ORGANIZATION NEED IS. YEAH. BUT IT'S LIKE YOU SEE MOST OF THESE NON-PROFITS THAT ARE DOING LIKE LARGE SCALE FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN. IT'S LIKE EVERY MEAL COSTS X AMOUNT. YEAH. RIGHT. AND IT'S LIKE, I'M SURE MOST OF THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TOWARDS A MEAL, BUT THAT'S LIKE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THING THAT IT COULD GO TOWARDS. YEAH. YEAH. 30% IS GOING TOWARDS THE MEAL AND THE REST IS GOING TOWARDS WILD, WILD ONES LIKE THAT THE THING. OKAY. THAT'S AWESOME. SO WE HAVE A PLAN. LET'S WORK ON, I MEAN, I WOULD SUGGEST GIVING EACH OTHER DATES OF WHEN YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE THIS DONE. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, SEPTEMBER 16TH, IF WE COULD HAVE IT COMPLETE. OR ACTUALLY IT WOULDN'T MATTER AT THAT POINT. ARE WE ALSO PRINTING THE FLYERS? IS THAT, I THINK WE'D PRINT THE FLYERS THERE. FUNDING FLYERS IS PRETTY, PRETTY CHEAP. THE ENVELOPES ARE OKAY THEN BECAUSE IT'S AN ENVELOPE GETS SEPTEMBER 16TH THEN. SO THAT WAY I CAN WORK WITH OUR PRINTING DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET IT DONE. I CAN GET IT TO YOU, YOU PRETTY QUICKLY. AS SOON AS I GET THE VERBIAGE, WHATEVER LANGUAGE YOU GUYS WANT. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. SEND ME THE LANGUAGE AND I CAN EVEN DO THIS TOMORROW. RIGHT. SO, AND I'M, I'M GONNA WORK ON PUTTING TOGETHER A, UM, BIT OF A CONTENT CALENDAR FOR, FOR PRESS. OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO OR WEBSITE OR UM, ANY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN SEND OUT, UM, OVER THE NEXT, A BIT OF A CYCLE. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'LL DO THE VERBIAGE AND SOME DATES AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS. AWESOME. ANY COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC? I, I'M NOT THINKING DEFINITELY, SO THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE APPLICATION. IF YOU GUYS WANT THE STANDARD. I HOPE PAUL SMALL ONE OR DO YOU WANT THE BIGGER POSTCARD SIZE? LET'S DO STANDARD SMALL. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE OKAY. BETTER. AND IF THEY NEED TO, IT'S LIKE FOUR BY SIX I THINK. YES. IF THEY HAVE TO RESIZE, WE CAN WORK. IS THAT RESTROOM? UM, NO, THAT'S, UH, FOR THIS ROOM HERE, YOU, I GUESS IT'S ONE OF THESE TWO FOR THE RESTRAIN. THE ONLY LIMITATION SIZE HAS TO GO OUT WITH THE, WE, I STILL THINK IT'S GOOD TO SEND IT OUT WITH THE UTILITY BILL. MM-HMM. . OH, OKAY. NOW THAT'S THE OTHER THING TOO. NOW WHEN WE'RE SENDING IT OUT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM PUT A LITTLE PLUG ON THE BILL ITSELF IF POSSIBLE. BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY, PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING UTILITY BILLS. I STILL GET ONE BUT I PAY AUTOMATICALLY. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST, IT'S MATTER YOUR ACCOUNT. SO WE'RE MISSING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE MISSING OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET A BILL IN THE MAIL. BUT YOU'RE JUST SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO LIKE THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES. YEAH, THAT, SEE THAT'S ONE WE'VE HAD ALL ALONG, WHICH HAS BASICALLY BEEN OUR PRIMARY FUNDRAISER IS SENDING THIS OUT WITH BILLS. MM-HMM. , I'LL SEND THIS. THANK YOU. SO YOU ASSEMBLE OUT UTILITY. I WAS TRYING TO FIND THAT. GREAT. I WISH WE COULD DO THAT WITH HAVE TO DIG, SEE EVERYBODY WHERE I LIVE FIND E WE DON'T GET THE LONG WELL THAT, THE PROBLEM IS NOT EVERYBODY NOW IS GETTING IT ENVELOPE. YEAH, THAT TOO BECAUSE I DON'T IS ONLINE. THEY SAY, HEY, YOUR, YOUR BILL COMING, MOST PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING, WILL STILL PROBABLY LOOK AT THE BILL THAT COMES ONLINE. MM-HMM. THEY'RE STILL GETTING A BILL ONLINE SOMEWHERE. DO WE HAVE ANY PARTNERSHIPS OR HAVE YOU HAD ANY PARTNERSHIPS WITH, UM, THE PRESS TELEGRAM? MAYBE THEY CAN GIVE US A LITTLE FREE HALF PAGE, BUT, BUT I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE, UH, BENEFIT OF HAVING GO OUT WITH THE UTILITY BILLS. NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY. I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S BACK. I'M JUST SAYING IN ADDITION TO RIGHT. YEAH, BUT I'D LIKE TO ADD THIS. BUT WE MARRIED IT ONE WAY. ONE WAY. GET THIS MONEY, GUESS WE COULD CONTACT THE UTILITY AND SAY, CAN WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE BILL ITSELF? OH. SO THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET IT IN THE MAIL, WE'LL SEE IT ON THEIR BILL WHEN THEY [00:30:01] LOOK AT THEIR ONLINE BILL. LET US, AND IT COULD STILL HAVE THAT LITTLE US THING TO LOOK AT WITH THEIR, UH, PUMP. LET US CONNECT WITH UTILITIES TO SEE IF THERE'S LIKE A, IT'LL, IF IT COULD PROMPT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT, BUT MAYBE THERE IS SOME SORT OF SERVICE. UM, AND THEN IF WE WILL BE ADDING THIS FLYER WITH, UM, THE UTILITY BILL, THEN IS IT GONNA BE A POSTCARD? 'CAUSE POSTCARD I THINK HARD STOCK. YEAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THEN AT THAT POINT I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M DESIGNING A POSTCARD. OKAY. HE WANTS TO, HERE'S THE IDEA THEN. I THINK HE WANTS, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, I DON'T, I'M HEARING THAT YOU WANT IT ON THE BILL, NOT TAKING A FLYER WITH THE BILL. NOT NECESSARILY. LEMME FINISH MY THOUGHT THERE. OKAY. WOULD THEY AGREE TO ADD THEY COULD ADD IT ONLINE THAT THEY WOULD JUST SEE THAT WAS THE FLYER COULD BE ADDED TO THE BILL SO THAT WHEN THEY OPEN UP THEIR BILL THEY WOULD SEE THE FLYER. THAT WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE. BUT BARRING THAT, WHAT THEY JUST PUT A LINE ON THE BILL SAYING ABOUT DONATING TO THE HOMELESS FUND WITH THE LOCAL, WITH THE UH, QR CODE. YEAH, THE QR CODE. WE'LL REACH OUT TO UTILITIES AND SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I GET A ACTUAL BILL SOLD . YEAH. I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE . SO I ACTUALLY GET THE ENVELOPE, BUT I, WE CAN REACH OUT TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HOMEPAGE LOOKS LIKE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THE ABILITY TO PROMPT SOMETHING. I KNOW. UM, AND IF SO, THEN WE CAN SEE IF UTILITIES WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO DO IT FOR A MONTH AS LONG AS THEY WOULD BE RUNNING IT. BUT I, I CAN'T CONFIRM 'CAUSE I I WE IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BUT IT'S A LOOSE PARTNERSHIP. YEAH, I KNOW. IT'S JUST SO IT'S NOT A FOR SURE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ME AND JEN CAN REACH OUT AND THEN CONNECT WITH. I THINK WE'RE STILL EARLY ON WHERE WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD AT LEAST WITH THAT POSTCARD SO THAT WE HAVE THAT IN HAND IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK THAT WORKS AS WELL. YEAH. UM, DOES THE UTILITY, I'M, I'M JUST THINKING, PUTTING ON MY BUSINESS, IF I WAS IN UTILITIES, THE THINGS I WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IS AM I SETTING PRECEDENT OR OPENING UP THE DOOR FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ASK ME TO ADVERTISE THEIR GIVING IN THE UTILITY BILL? SO THAT'S JUST, DOES THE UTILITY BILL PUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T, I GET MINE TOO, BUT I DON'T EVER LOOK AT IT. I JUST GO PAGE. THAT COULD BE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR US, JUST US FOR MANY, MANY. SO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TOO. WELL I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE NOW WE ARE SAYING LET'S PUT IT ON THE BILL AND NOW WE'RE SAYING LET'S, LET'S ASK IF WE CAN HAVE A SPOT. 'CAUSE THOSE SPOTS ARE PRIME. RIGHT? THAT'S ADVERTISING ONE MONTH ON THE WEBSITE. I'M JUST, THAT WAS ADVOCATE BECAUSE WHAT WOULD STOP ONCE A YEAR IN THE OTHER FOUNDATION, HEY, I GOT MY BILL AND SO I NOTICED THIS. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH TO DO IT? AND THERE'S MORE THAN ONE MAYOR'S FUND. WE DO KNOW. SO I'M JUST, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW THIS ORIGINALLY HAPPENED. UH, IT REALLY, THE MAYORS FUND HAS BEEN AROUND WHAT, FOR 20 YEARS. AND I GUESS THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR FIVE OF THESE THAT I KNOW THE ENVELOPE. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. I'M JUST SAYING IF I WAS ON THE OTHER END, I KNOW. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE MY A BIT OF A HESITANCY. WE DO THIS FOR YOU AND WE CAN EASILY SLIDE THIS IN, BUT NOW YOU'RE ASKING US, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE ADVERTISING. RIGHT? AND IT IS IN A SENSE. YEAH. BUT WHAT'S GONNA PREVENT, SO NOW I'M GONNA HAVE TO TELL 'CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE IS GONNA ASK, IF I WAS ED OF A NONPROFIT, I'D BE LIKE CALLING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD WORK. BUT WHY WOULD THEY ANSWER THIS FIRST? AT LEAST AT LONG BEACH UTILITY. YEAH. CITY BEACH. THAT'S A BIG THING. IT'S A LONG BEACH UTILITY. AND THIS IS A LONG BEACH FUND. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. SO WE HAVE THAT EDGE, RIGHT? THERE'RE WE'RE GOVERNMENT SO THEY CAN'T, THE OTHER NONPROFIT, LIKE I WOULDN'T THINK IT'S A NON-PROFIT OWNER THAT I COULD COMPETE WITH THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S GOVERNMENT, IT'D BE DIFFERENT IF WE WERE DOING IT FOR BLANKETS OF LOVE AND BLAH BLAH BLAH, THEY WERE ON THERE. THEN I'D BE LIKE, HEY, BLANKETS OF LOVE IS ON THERE. I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. BUT I WOULDN'T THINK THAT IF I'M LOOKING IT'S THE MAYOR AND THERE'S MORE THAN ONE MAYOR'S FUND NEED, YOU KNOW? YEAH. THERE'S THE MAYOR'S FUND FOR EDUCATION. THERE'S, I'M SAYING WE'D BE SPECIFIC. I'M SURE IN ADVERTISEMENT WE WOULD BE. BUT THEN WHAT? THEN THAT OPENS IT UP. I'M JUST, THEN IT OPENS IT UP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, BUT IF IT'S THE MAYOR FUND, OH MY GOODNESS. IT'S THE MAYOR FUND. IT'S OKAY. LET THEM DEAL WITH THAT. THAT'S NOT [00:35:01] WELL, WE'LL SEE. WE WANT TO ASK THEM THE QUESTION, SEE WHAT THEY SAY. OF COURSE WE ASK THEM THE QUESTION. I, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST THROWING OUT THE, THE DEVIL'S. YEAH. WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK BECAUSE I, I DON'T, I THINK I INITIALLY HAD MENTIONED IT. I DON'T REMEMBER IF THERE WAS AN ANSWER TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I ALSO DUNNO ABOUT POSTING A FLYER. MAYBE LIKE A SENTENCE OR SOMETHING. BUT WE CAN REACH OUT TO UTILITIES AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT NUMBER ONE THEY'D BE WILLING TO DO OR CAN DO. YOU KNOW, EITHER OR. OKAY. YEAH. NOW I'M GONNA BE, AND MY BACKGROUND IN SALES TELLS ME THAT MOST PEOPLE SAY NO TO MOST THINGS AUTOMATICALLY RATHER THAN DO THEM. MM-HMM. . SO TO GET THIS DONE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY UP HIGHER AND THEY AND THEIR UTILITY TO AGREE WITH IT. AND WHAT I WAS THINKING, I MIGHT APPROACH MY, UH, COUNCILMAN AND ASK HIM FOR HIS HELP IN APPROACHING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE THAT LEVEL MM-HMM. TO GET A CHANGE LIKE THIS DONE. AS I REMEMBER, I PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, I, WHEN I FIRST ONE WAS FIRST DOING THIS, UH, I DID TALK TO THE UTILITY AND I GOT THE DISTINCT FEELING. THEY CONSIDER THIS A REAL PAYMENT AND I PUT DOWN BULBS IN , YOU KNOW, SO IT WASN'T SO, SO I THINK WE DO HAVE TO DO THAT. I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT AND ASK AL IF HE WOULD BE FRONT IS FOR A BIT. MM-HMM. WOULD HER HAVE, UM, A CONTACT EVER? LIKE HAS THE PRESS TELEGRAM EVER HELPED US IN THAT WAY? WE PAY FOR ALL OUR, UM, SPOTS AT THE PRESS TELEGRAM POST. WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION? IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE. I'M SORRY. IS IT? YEAH. PRESS TELEGRAM. OH, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY GET THE PRESS TELEGRAM INVOLVED AND THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY. THE DAILY NEWS TOO. I THINK THE DAILY NEWS IS PICKING UP MORE. THAT IS A, YEAH, THAT'S THE SAME THING. YEAH. IT'S SOMEONE TO WRITE AN ARTICLE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NO, I ACTUALLY WENT TO ONE OF THEIR LITTLE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. VERY STRATEGICALLY DO THE CONTACTS OF THOSE PEOPLE. AND IT WAS A LITTLE WORKSHOP TELLING THEM HOW TELLING, TEACHING US HOW TO GET OUR STUFF IN THERE. SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. I CAN EMAIL THEM. THEY CAN DO AN INTERVIEW WITH WHOMEVER. OKAY. AND THEN BOOM, IT BE IN A PAPER OR THAT ONE. FEEL FREE, BE AN AD. I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I, I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA OF HIGHLIGHTING SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS. I WAS LOOKING AT OUR LIST AND I CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE GROUP SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AND SEE WHO WE FUNDED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR AND THEN KIND OF GO FROM THERE. I THINK PEOPLE LIKE THE STORIES, THEY LIKE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IMPACT HAS BEEN MADE. UM, WE DIDN'T FUND TOO MANY PEOPLE THIS YEAR ACTUALLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE LIKE URBAN COMMUNITY OUTREACH WHO WE FUNDED MEALS AND SERVICES AND THEY'RE HIRING PEOPLE OR THEY PAY VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE FORMERLY HOMELESS THEMSELVES TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SERVICES ON SUNDAYS. I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TO, TO REALLY NOT ONLY HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE THE FUND, BUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE KNOW IS THAT IS GONNA USE THE MONEY FOR A GOOD CAUSE. WHO WOULD SEND THAT OUT? WOULD THAT BE STAFF THAT WOULD SEND, BECAUSE I CAN WRITE YOU A PITCH TO SEND OUT TO, UM, THE NEWSPAPER STORY. SO WE DON'T HAVE STORY. WE DON'T HAVE A CONTACT. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU AT LEAST NOT WITHIN HOMELESS SERVICES. NO. WHO I, IF, IF I COULD WRITE THE PITCH AND TELL YOU WHO TO SEND IT TO, WHO, WHO WOULD SEND IT? CAN WE SEND IT? IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE COULD SEND IT. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO BY SEPTEMBER 16TH, I WILL IDENTIFY PUBLICATIONS AND I WILL WRITE A, A PITCH FOUR STORY FROM, FROM HAY SACK AND THEN KEEP US UPDATED. 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GET THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE INVOLVED, SO THAT WAY IF WE DO WANT HIM TO DO SOME SORT OF PRESS, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS LIKE TYING IN THE MAYOR. MM-HMM. , THAT'S A JOB IN ITSELF. CONNECTING WITH HIS PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE AND THEN SEE WHAT IT FITS WITH HIS SCHEDULE. SO POINT A I'M GONNA SEND A PITCH. PERFECT COPY. YOU WANT IT? AND THEN FROM THERE WE COULD SHARE IT. WE COULD, WE COULD GO FROM THERE. BUT AT LEAST IT GETS IT OUT THERE. HEY, THIS IS A STORY. THEY'RE ALL LOOKING FOR NEWS. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO FILL UP THE, THE PAPER. SO I SAID I CAN, I USED TO CALL FOR COUNCIL. WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENT, AND, AND BECAUSE IT'S THE MAYOR'S FUND, IT'S GOT A NICE NAME TO IT. YEAH. I'M SURE WE'LL GET SOMEONE THAT WILL WANT TO COVER IT, BUT WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT THERE. SO I CAN DO, I'LL DO THAT. OKAY. I'LL IDENTIFY, PRESS, TELEGRAM, THE POST. ANY OTHER PLACE. WHAT, WHAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR PAPER HERE? JIM SAID DAILY [00:40:01] NEWS. SAY AGAIN? DAILY NEWS. YEAH. THERE'S A, OH, THE SOUTHERN, UH, DAILY MAIL. ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU PUT IT IN PRESS TELEGRAM IT GOES YEAH. THE GRANDON GAZELLE. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. I THAT ONE THE IS PRESS TELEGRAM IS A PART OF THAT. PRESS TELEGRAM GROUP. TIKTOK. MM-HMM. . IT'S A PART OF THAT GROUP. SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ONE SOMETHING. I WAS A CONTRIBUTING WRITER FOR PRESS TELEGRAM. VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT COUPLE, A FEW YEARS AGO. I DON'T HAVE ANY LIKE CONTACT RIGHT. BUT I KNOW HOW TO PITCH IT. I KNOW HOW TO SEND IT OUT. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY LOOKING FOR? LET ME WRITE THIS. I KNOW HOW TO READ THAT PART SO I CAN, I CAN DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD. AND WE CAN JUST SAY, UM, WE'D LIKE NOT NECESSARILY GIVE, UM, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO AND THAT WE'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, AN ORGANIZATION. WE DON'T HAVE TO IDENTIFY IT AT FIRST. JUST SEEING BITES AND I LIKE THAT. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. GRON CLOSE. JUST SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION BECAUSE ONCE YOU PUT IT IN ONE PLACE AND IT GOES ONLINE TO ALL OF THE NEWSPAPERS WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE GROUPS, YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. NO, BUT KNOWLEDGE. I HAVE KNOWLEDGE. NO, NO. I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE I HAD ACCESS TO THAT ONE POINT, BUT I TOOK THE KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T HAVE TO ACCESS. IT COST A LOT. SO. WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE. BEFORE'S. WHY? I WAS LIKE, YOU STILL HAVE, I GOT EXCITED WHEN WE DO, WHEN WE POST OUR REQUEST FOR FUNDS, WE HAVE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH LIKE THE NEWSPAPER. THE DAILY POST, NOT THE POST. OH, THE POST. AND THEN WE SEND IT. BUT IT, IT CAN COST ANYWHERE FROM LIKE MM-HMM. TWO 50 TO 13,000. DEPENDS ON LIKE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO POST. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S A LITTLE PRICEY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NO, WE WANNA, WE WANT THEM TO DO A STORY. SO THAT'S HOW WE BUT THE STORIES ARE BETTER. YES. BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S FREE PRESS AND EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. SO IT'S JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING? THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING ACTUALLY IN LONG BEACH. SO I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD, WE COULD GET A THAT'S PERFECT. SEPTEMBER 16TH THEN THAT'S THE DATE. OKAY. UH, LET'S MOVE ON THEN. I THINK WE'VE DONE GOT A LOT OF GOOD STUFF GOING HERE. TAKE THE FOLKS OH, TO MONEY. MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE A FRAUD. SO WE GET TO HOW WE SPEND IT. SO JIM, IF YOU WANNA, UM, MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. DEPEND I KNOW WHAT THE MOTION WOULD BE EXACTLY. THAT WE CONTINUE TO, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE, THAT WE CONTINUE ON THE FUNDRAISING. OKAY. TO RECEIVE AND FILE. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR? SO AN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PROBABLY, SHE'S TELLING US SOME STUFF, ARGUING LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING? SOUND LIKE SHE'S TELLING. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? I SECOND. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY. AND THEN ALL IN FAVOR. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. PERFECT. OKAY, WELL WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS, WHICH FIRST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE VERY HONEST, I HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THESE. AND, AND SO I WAS HOPING PAUL WOULD BE BACK AND WANTED TO TALK TO HIM MORE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE ONE, I THINK IT IS TAKING TOO MUCH STAFF TIME AT THE TIME WAY WE'RE USING IT. AND WE USED TO BE THAT THE PERSON WOULD APPEAR WITH THE COMMITTEE AND UH, BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND, UH, I'M JUST THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER IF THESE THINGS WERE SENT OUT IMMEDIATELY TO THE COMMITTEE. WE COULD LOOK AT THEM AND AT THE MEETING FOLLOWING THE PERSON WOULD APPEAR AND PRESENT IT TO US. AND THAT WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT. GET THEM ANSWERED. BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE ARE, BE HONEST, THEY BOTH MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH BACKGROUND FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE GIVING OUT THE MONEY. I WOULD, YES, THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY GOOD PURPOSES, BUT I'VE BEEN THERE BUSINESS A LONG TIME AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO DO WORK WITH A HOMELESS THAT THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS AND ABILITY TO DO IT. AND, UH, AND I THINK WE DO HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE FUND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE A FINANCIAL STRUCTURE BEHIND THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK. AND BOTH OF THEM HAVE, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A, THEY'RE WORKING OUTTA SOMEBODY ELSE'S OFFICE. THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S NOT MUCH STABILITY IN EITHER ONE OF THESE. AND, UH, I JUST, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I JUST WANNA COMMENT. WELL, YEAH, I KNOW THERE'S SMALL AGENCIES, BUT IF YOU ASK FOR MONEY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE [00:45:01] TO PREVENT INFORMATION THAT MAKES THE PEOPLE SURE THAT YOU CAN REALLY HANDLE IT AND DO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANNA DO. AND, UH, IT'LL TAKE THIS TAKE. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE, SO LET ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN I COMMENT ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID REALLY FAST? SURE. SO I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT GIVEN THE AMOUNTS THAT WE DO, IF WE WERE GIVEN, IF IT WAS $50,000, $25,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'D BE THERE ALL DAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2000, MAYBE THREE, LIKE SMALL. THESE ARE SMALL AMOUNTS. 10,000 EACH. I HAVE NOT SEEN WHO'S GIVE 10,000. THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH FOR 10,000, BUT OH, THESE I'M JUST TALK, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YEAH, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICS. I AGREE. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT OVERALL BECAUSE THERE ARE SMALL ONES AND THEY, EVERYBODY HAS TO START SOMEWHERE. AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE VETTED, AS LONG AS WE CAN PROVE THEY, THEY'VE GOT THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, THEY GOT THEIR CT NUMBER, THEY GOT THEIR, UH, DETERMINATION, UH, FROM IRS, LIKE AS LONG AS THAT'S CLEAN AND, AND, UH, GOOD STANDING WITH, UM, WHAT IS IT? SECRETARY OF STATE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN THING I CARE ABOUT AS FAR AS BEING STABLE THE NEXT THING. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT, THOSE THINGS DO COME UP IN THE END. IT BITES 'EM IN THE END WHEN IT'S TAX TIME. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEM COME AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT, THAT'S HELPFUL. BUT I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, I JUST PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SUCH, UM, SUCH A REALLY, REALLY FINE, FINE LINE WITH, AND EVEN 10,000 IN MY OPINION, IS A SMALL AMOUNT. I MEAN, I SPENT 10,000 IN IN ALMOST A MONTH, USUALLY TWO. I'M JUST SAYING. AND THAT'S JUST FOR OFFICE STUFF. SO THAT'S NOT EVEN HELPING THE SENIORS, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'VE GOTTA BE, IT CAN'T BE JUST SO STAUNCH. AND THEN WE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING THESE DONATIONS AND MONIES IS TO HELP THE ORGANIZATION HELP US IN THE CITY. SO I JUST OFFER THAT SOME EVEN BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALL, THEY MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN I STARTED, I HAVE TO BE IN THE OFFICE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. OKAY. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S HOW IT GOES WHEN YOU START. I KNOW WHERE YOU COME FROM. YOU COME FROM THE LARGER COMPANY. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT THOUGH FOR PROBABLY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I, I'VE BEEN, I STARTED WITH A VERY SMALL ONE. RIGHT, BUT FOR PROFIT? NO, NO NON-PROFIT. OKAY. IN LONG BEACH. MM-HMM. . AND, UH, I'M ON THE BOARD OF A COUPLE OF SMALL ONES. MM-HMM. . SO, NO, I DO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH SMALL ONE. I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T, I'M JUST SAYING THAT I JUST THINK WE SHOULD, LET ME ADDRESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. IN THE PAST, WE'VE GAVE NOW SMALLER GRANTS, TWO OR 3000 PEOPLE TO DISTRIBUTE STUFF. MM-HMM. . AND WE'VE DONE THAT WITHOUT ASKING THEM A GREAT DEAL OF BACKGROUND. JUST THAT WE KNEW THEY HAD A HISTORY OF DOING THIS. BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE ONE PARTICULAR ONE WHERE FINANCING WE'RE ASKING FOR STARTUP FUNDS OR MAKE FAIR SIZE ORGANIZATION MM-HMM. . AND WE'RE A, THEY'RE ASKING FOR THREE MONTHS OF SALARY WITHOUT HAVING ANY INDICATION OF WHERE IT'S GOING. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THREE MONTHS. THEY SAY THAT, BUT WE HAVE NO PROOF OF THAT. IN FACT, THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING INTO MEDI-CAL, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT MEDI-CAL LICENSING, LICENSING IN THE GRANT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE 10,000. IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING. THE REASON IT'S SAYING 10,000 IS BECAUSE WE SAY IN THE GRANT APPLICATION, WE SORT OF IMPLY THAT WE WON'T ASK QUESTIONS UNDER 10,000 MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR 10,000 BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING WE'LL JUST GIVE THE MONEY. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. I THINK WE SHOULD BE, AND I WOULD SAY THAT MAYBE WE GIVE OUT SMALLER AMOUNTS, GET PEOPLE STARTED, DO THOSE THINGS. I AGREE WITH THAT. MM-HMM. , IF THE ONE THAT WANTS TO STARTUP HAD COME TO US AND SAID, OKAY, I'VE GOT EVERYTHING LINED UP, BUT DAMN, I'M SHORT $10,000 AND I'VE GOT ALL THESE, IF IS EVERYBODY LINED UP? I'VE GOT ALL THE LICENSING, I'VE GOT THE GRANTS IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M SHORT 10,000, I JUMP RIGHT IN AND SAY, YES, DO IT. BUT WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP ON IT, YOU TO START A, TO START HIRING PEOPLE AND WITHOUT THE BACKGROUND, THAT'S SORT A SCARY. SO IF I COULD JUST ADD, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN EXPLAINING TO THE COMMITTEE, IS THAT WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANNA FUND. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WISHY-WASHY. WE DON'T WANNA FUND TANGIBLE ITEMS. WE WANNA FUND SERVICES. SERVICES TYPICALLY MEANS SOME SORT OF SALARIES. SALARIES. [00:50:01] MY LARGER ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT GONNA BE APPLYING FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S TWO BARE BONES. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH GOING ON IT, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE. SO WE DON'T USUALLY GO WITH THE LARGER, LARGER ORGANIZATIONS. RIGHT. SO IF WE WANT TO FUND THESE PILOT INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS, YOU'D HAVE TO PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED AS WELL. I THINK MAYBE THE, IN JUST TO KIND OF PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, URBAN, URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH IS THE FIRST ORGANIZATION, WE, WE DON'T PARTNER WITH THEM. WE KNOW THEM BY NAME, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. BUT THE SECOND ORGANIZATION, IT'S, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE PARTNER WITH THEM DIRECTLY, BUT THEY HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO JOIN THE LONG BEACH CONTINUUM OF CARE. THEY HAVE, UH, BREACHED OUT AND SEEN WHAT PARTNERSHIPS THEY CAN DO. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO HMIS, MAYBE NOT HMIS WITHIN LONG BEACH, BUT HMIS WITHIN, UH, THE, THE COUNTY, RIGHT. SO THEY'RE IN MOTION TO BE BECOME SOMETHING BIGGER, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PULL ALL THOSE, THOSE, UH, FINANCIAL RECORDS THAT I THINK YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE OFFERING. NOR DO I FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, GIVING AN ORGANIZATION 30 40, WHICH IS WHAT WE USED TO DO WITH THIS FUND, WE WOULD FUND PEOPLE FOR MUCH LARGER AMOUNTS BACK IN THE DAY. WHICH I THINK THOSE AMOUNTS CARRIED FARTHER. SO I WOULD SAY IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE REALLY NEEDS TO DECIDE WHAT TYPE OF FUNDING DO YOU WANNA SEE, WHAT, WHAT ITEMS DO YOU WANNA COME ACROSS? BECAUSE FOR ME AND JEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, EVERYTHING IS REIMBURSABLE. SO IF YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU BOUGHT, YOU KNOW, A HYGIENE PACK, SO I EXPECT TO SEE TOOTHBRUSHES, I EXPECT TO SEE TOWELS, I EXPECT TO SEE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT I KNOW ARE TANGIBLE ITEMS THAT WILL BE HANDED OUT. YOU GIVE ME A LIST. SURE. I MEAN, IF MAYBE THE ORGANIZATION CHOOSES NOT TO HAND IT OUT AND THEY POCKET EVERYTHING, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING. BUT THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GONNA COME ACROSS OUR DESK THAT WILL, WE WILL THEN BE REIMBURSING. I JUST WANNA JUMP IN. UM, I I DON'T KNOW THAT, OR AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE A CONFUSION AROUND WHAT WE WANT TO FUND. I FEEL LIKE, UM, WE ARE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE WANNA FUND. I FEEL LIKE THE QUESTIONS COME MORE OR LESS AROUND THE AGENCIES. UM, WE DON'T WANT TO, I GUESS I'M GONNA SAY I DON'T WANT TO THROW MONEY AWAY. UM, AND SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I'M NOT THROWING MONEY AWAY. FOR ME, MY ALWAYS QUESTIONS ARE SUSTAINABLE. LIKE, AFTER THREE MONTHS, WHAT'S NEXT? BECAUSE I WOULD, IF WE WANT TO SEE THESE SERVICES CONTINUE, I WANNA KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING US ONLY FOR THREE MONTHS. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE THREE MONTHS, THEN DOES IT GO BACK TO ZERO? AND SO THEN THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S NO IMPACT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND SO I'M NOT CONFUSED ON WHAT I WANNA SEE. I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR TELL ME WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING FORWARD. AND THAT'S JUST GOOD BUSINESS SENSE. THAT'S JUST GOOD. ANY, ANY, ANY PERSON RUNNING A NONPROFIT SHOULD BE THINKING AHEAD. RIGHT? WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE MONTHS, BUT WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR SIX. WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR 10. JUST TELL ME WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HELP WHEN THIS FIRST THREE, THIS FIRST LEG, UM, IF YOU'VE GOT YOUR PLAN FOR THE SECOND LEG, UH, AND IF YOUR PLAN IS TO COME BACK WITH THE SECOND LEG, I'M DOWN WITH THAT TOO. SO I, AT LEAST FOR ME, THAT'S WHERE I ALWAYS HAVE A LITTLE TREPIDATION. MM-HMM. THAT SOMETIMES I'M NOT CLEAR AS TO WHAT HAPPENS. LIKE, UM, ONE OF THE FUNDS WANTS MONEY FOR PERSONNEL. ABSOLUTELY. WE, WE KNOW THAT'S AN EXPANSION, BUT IT'S ONLY FOR THREE MONTHS. WHAT HAPPENS? WHERE'S THAT PERSON GOING AFTER THREE MONTHS? SO WHERE ARE THOSE SERVICES GOING AFTER THREE MONTHS? AND SO TO ME, SHE WANTS SEE SUSTAINABILITY. SUSTAINABILITY IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, BUT I'M NOT, I'M, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M CONFUSED ON, WHICH IS ALL WE HAVE. I FEEL LIKE, YEAH, WE DIDN'T QUITE FINISH THE SENTENCE, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVITE SOMEONE TO THE MEETING. WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO WE WANNA INVITE 'EM? SO LET'S SAY YOU WANNA HEAR FROM URBAN. OKAY. IF YOU, IF THE, IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS CONFIDENT IN, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANNA ASK, THEN AT THAT POINT WE CAN PUT THIS, UH, APPLICATION TO THE LARGER COMMITTEE AND THEN WE INVITE THEM THERE. TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE SEE OUR ORGANIZATION OR APPLICANTS COME TO OUR HAYSTACK MEETINGS AND THEN ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WE TELL THEM, HEY, THERE'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WELL, THEY COULD COME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING. THEY COULD COME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD WHY, WHY? BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS BASICALLY RE REWRITING THE APPLICATION FOR US. AND, AND IN EXPLAINING, AND IT IS GOOD, BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAT WE [00:55:01] MIGHT NOT NEED THAT STEP IF WE GOT THE APPLICATION THAT WE GOT TO READ IT AND THE PERSON CAME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS. SO, AND THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT OFF YOUR PART TOO. WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO WRITE IT JUST BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE, NOT NECESSARILY WHY WOULD YOU REWR IT? BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS LEGIBLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE. SO WHENEVER WE'RE PUTTING A STAFF ANALYSIS TODAY, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THESE, OKAY, YOU CAN REWRITE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT, I THINK MOST OF US COULD UNDERSTAND IT. BUT, BUT THAT'S THE COMMITTEE ITSELF. EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE DO HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T MIND INVITING THE SUB, THE, THE ORGANIZATIONS TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. BUT LET'S LOOK AT THIS. YOU'VE GOT THE BUDGET UP THERE NOW, WHICH IS A GOOD ONE. YEAH. LARGE IT AGAIN. IT WAS GOOD. YEAH. SEE THEY ASKED FOR, AND THAT PERSONAL COST, THEY DID NOT MISSPELLED. THEY ACTUALLY WANT $1,800 IN CASH TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE TO GIVE STIPENDS. THEY SAID TO VOLUNTEERS. BUT THEY'RE QUESTIONING THAT. AND UH, IT SAYS VOCATIONAL TRAINING IS NO REAL WORK DOWN. I KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO THIS IS HAS TO BE REIMBURSABLE TOO. EVERYTHING'S REIMBURSABLE. EVEN IF IT'S ADVANCED. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S STILL REIMBURSABLE. BOTH OF THEM ARE ASKING FOR CASH ADVANCE. CORRECT. BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN UP TO 5,000 MAX IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY. THAT'S WHAT WE SAID. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. WE CAN UP TO 5,000, I WOULD NOT GIVE OUT ANY MONEY THAT WASN'T REIMBURSABLE. IN OTHER WORDS, WE WANT TO SEE THEY HAVE SOME BASIS TO START WITH. MM-HMM. . AND THINK THAT'S VERY REASONABLE. YEAH. SO ALL THESE HAVE TO BE REIMBURSABLE. SO THAT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A DIFFICULT JOB FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING OUT STIPENDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND UH, GROCERY ASSISTANCE. WELL THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET SOMETHING TO SHOW WHO THEY GAVE THE MONEY TO AND HOW IT WAS SPENT. CORRECT. THAT'S A BIG THING THAT MAYBE NOT, THEY'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT IN ADVANCE. SO WE DON'T WANT TO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THIS, WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, SO FOR GROCERY ASSISTANCE, THEY SEND ME A RECEIPT OF BONDS AND THEN IT TELLS ME THIS PERSON, IT WAS GIVEN TO THIS PERSON. AND THEN THAT'S HOW I WOULD ACCOUNT FOR GROCERY ASSISTANCE FOR CLOTHING, THEY WOULD GO TO KOHL'S AND PURCHASE CLOTHES. SO I WOULD GET AN INVOICE FROM KOHL'S. YEAH. SO THERE IS, ON THE BACKEND A WAY THAT WE VERIFY. NOW, I CAN'T COMPLETELY VERIFY THAT THIS WENT TO A SPECIFIC PERSON, BUT THAT'S HONESTLY WITH INVOICE. YEAH. BUT YES, THERE IS A WAY THAT WE GO ABOUT VERIFYING THIS INFORMATION. THAT'S ALSO WHAT I TRY TO EXPLAIN WHEN I SAY LIKE TANGIBLE ITEMS, IS THAT I AM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A, AN ITEM PURCHASED. BECAUSE WITH SALARIES IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER. I CAN SAY, OH YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, $25 AN HOUR. THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. BUT THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I GET WHEN I'M, I'M PAYING FOR SALARIES. BUT FOR THESE ITEMS, AT LEAST I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A PURCHASE, THERE WAS A BACK, UH, INVOICE, AND I'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE INVOICE AND I'M PUTTING THAT WITHIN OUR RECORDS. SO, WELL, WHAT IF WE LOOK AT THESE AND WE GIVE THEM A SMALLER GRANT? I, I THINK THE ONE I, I, I VERY HONESTLY, MAYBE WE SHOULD ADDRESS THIS ONE. WELL, LET'S, IF WE CAN FINISH, UH, ADVOCACY MM-HMM. , SO THAT WAY WE, WE UNDERSTAND IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM, IF WE WANT TO BRING THEM FORWARD TO THE HAYS STAFF MEETING, HAVE THEM ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, MAKE A DECISION. IF, IF YOU LEMME FINISH THAT BY THAT. UH, SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES AND AS I SAY IT, IT, I WOULD SAY THAT MAYBE WE APPROVE A QUARTER OF THE MONEY UP FRONT, PAY 2,500 ON A REIMBURSABLE BASIS AND LET'S SEE HOW THEY DO WITH THAT. MM-HMM. . AND SEE IF WE GET THE RECEIPTS AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE DO MM-HMM. . AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT. YEAH. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND WE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME TO THE MEETING SO THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS. SO I'LL MAKE THEM, I GUESS TECHNICALLY I CAN'T, BUT I WILL ANYWAY. , WELL PERFECTLY YOU CAN, YOU SAID YOU TO SHOW ME THAT YOU ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY DON'T NEED A SECOND APPROVE THIS FOR 2,500 ON URBAN RENEWAL AND, AND TELL THEM THAT THIS IS, THEY SEE HOW WE DO WITH THAT, WHAT THEY DO WITH THE MONEY. AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK TO US FOR MORE [01:00:01] AS THEY SHOW US WHAT THEY HAVE. I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO THAT, YEAH. WHEN IT'S A NEW ORGANIZATION, THEY DO A LOWER AMOUNT TO SEE AND THEN THE NEXT ROUND, THAT'S, YEAH. TO ME THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, JUST LET'S GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO HERE. THAT'S IT. THAT'S PERFECT. AND, UH, SO, OKAY, WAIT, WHEN YOU HAVE 2,500, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR, THE GRANT ITSELF, EVERYTHING IS REIMBURSABLE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO IF THEY'RE REQUESTING $10,000, NO, $10,000 IS GONE. BUT, SO, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. $10,000 AND YOU ONLY GET THE 2,500 UP FRONT. I WILL STILL, I CAN ONLY RELEASE 2,500 UP FRONT AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SEND ME INVOICES TO SHOW THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED THE WORK. AT THAT POINT, I THEN START RELEASING FUNDS ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOW SUBMITTING ANY ADDITIONAL INVOICES UP TO THE YEAR, UP TO 10,000. WELL, NO, I I DON'T SAY THAT WE APPROVE A GRANT OF $2,500. NO, SHE KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SHE'S EXPLAINING TO YOU THAT BASICALLY YOU, YOU'RE SAYING TO DO THE 2,500, IF WE DIDN'T JUST CUT IT OFF, IF WE LEFT IT AT 10, WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS WE DO THE 25, LIKE YOU SAID, UP FRONT, IF THEY DO NOT COMPLY, THEY DON'T GO ANY FURTHER. SO I'M SAYING EITHER WAY IT'S KIND SAME. I I WOULD SAY WE APPROVE 2,500. SO THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY. THEY WOULD REAPPLY. BUT THEN JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALSO HAD ISSUES WITH RE PEOPLE REAPPLYING. IF YOU ARE GONNA DO THIS, THEN YOU ARE ALSO GONNA LEND TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE TOLD THAT WE WILL NOT BE, UH, GIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS UP TO THEM WANTING TO APPLY AGAIN. WELL SEE MY THINKING WAS AT THEY SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES 'EM TO GIVE OUT 2,500 BUCKS. 25, YEAH. 2,500. WELL, 2,500 IS ADVANCE PAY. SO WE WOULD NO, NO, I'M SAYING TO REFINISH, WE APPROVE THE GRANT FOR 2,500 PERIOD AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO. IF THEY THEN CAN SHOW US THEY'RE DOING, THEY CAN COME BACK AND APPLY FOR SAY, 5,000 NEXT TIME. AND THEY WANT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE WILL NOT, WE DON'T, AS A COMMITTEE, WE'VE DECIDED NOT TO ACCEPT PEOPLE TO REAPPLY. THAT WAS WHAT WE'VE DENIED PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOUR. WE, WE PUT A TIME LIMIT ON IT. BUT SOME, THE ONE THAT WE CAME UP WITH AND WE DID GET THEM MORE MONEY ALSO WAS BECAUSE THEY, WE ADJUSTED TWO MONTHS BEFORE GETTING THEM A LARGE GRANT. AND THEY CAME UP WITH IT AND THEY CAME BACK AND ASKED FOR $20,000 AND THEY SAID NO BECAUSE THEY HADN'T EVEN SPENT THAT FIRST MONEY. THEY HAD SPENT IT DOWN. THEY SPENT IT DOWN WITHIN, LIKE NOW THEY SPENT IT, THEY SPENT IT DOWN. YEAH. THEY SPENT, THEY SPENT IT DOWN WITHIN A MONTH OF RECEIVING IT. YEAH. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I THINK WE'VE BEEN GIVING DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ORGANIZATIONS REACH OUT TO ME ASKING IF THEY CAN REAPPLY. AND I SAID, YOU CAN, HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT AWARDING ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN A, UM, AWARDED IN THE PAST. SO NO, I DON'T THINK WE EVER SAID THAT AS A COMMITTEE. WE CAN STILL, WE, IT'S NOT A ONE TIME THING YOU CAN GET, THEY CAN COME BACK AND THAT WOULD THESE PEOPLE, YOU JUST SPENT THEIR MONEY. I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THEM COMING BACK. I DON'T THINK WE EVER SAID THAT AS A COMMITTEE. WE OBJECTED TO THAT ONE BECAUSE IT CAME BACK SO FAST AND WE HADN'T REALLY SEEN THE OUTCOME. AND ALSO WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR WAS NEW BUSINESS, WHICH THEY HADN'T BEEN IN BEFORE, WHICH WAS A STARTUP THING. SO I MEAN, BUT YOU GUYS DID THIS. IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN A MOTION, HAD TO BE IN WRITING. WHAT DID WE HAVE IN WRITING? THE MOTION I MADE WAS THAT WE APPROVE OR GRANT UP FOR 2,500. NO, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RULES, WHICH IS YOU'RE BRINGING UP. SHE'S SAYING ABOUT NO PEOPLE REAPPLYING. THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING THAT SAYS THAT OKAY, WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND WE GOTTA STICK TO IT. . SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THAT, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN. WE APPROVE IT FOR A REDUCED AMOUNT, $2,500. LET'S SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT. IF THEY PUT THAT OUT AND THEY COMPLY WITH THE RULES AND WE SEE WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY GIVING OUT THE MONEY AND THEY COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A STRONGER APPLICATION. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE EVER SAID THAT THEY CAN'T. THERE'S A ONE TIME, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA CON WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT WE DO. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS WE CAN'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY SET. SO WE GOTTA, BUT I WASN'T PAYING ANYTHING SET, BUT APPARENTLY SO BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING ONE SHOULD SAYING ANOTHER. BUT THERE WAS, I MEAN, SO SOMETHING WAS, THINK WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS. WHAT [01:05:01] WE CAN DO IS WE CAN GO BACK TO THE ORGANIZATION AND SAY, MOVING FORWARD, ANY ORGANIZATION CAN REAPPLY. BUT THEN I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOW NOT GONNA USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE PAST THAT YOU'VE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT BEFORE. AND THIS IS ONGOING FUNDING BECAUSE REMEMBER THIS IS GAPS. MM-HMM. ONE TIME NOT TO USE AS OPERATIONAL EMERGENCY OVER 2,500. AND WE, WELL NOT JUST FOR THIS, WE OH NO, BUT I BRINGING THIS UP, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE EXACTLY. LEMME SAY THIS, LEMME SAY THIS. YOU ARE APPROVED FOR 2,500 BUCKS. DO DO THE SERVICES WITH THAT, WORK WITH THE REIMBURSABLE SYSTEM AND WE WILL ACCEPT ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THIS UP. YOU MET THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT. SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO ACCEPTING ANOTHER APPLICATION. I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AND SAY FOR THIS ORGANIZATION, I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AND SAY THAT WE ARE WILLING TO APPROVE THIS WORK, THIS UH, APPLICATION UP TO 2,500. RIGHT. THAT THEY ALSO HAVE TO RESUBMIT SOMETHING A, A BUDGET SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THEY'LL BE LOOKING TO DO BECAUSE 2,500 IS NOT EVEN GONNA COVER THE COVER. THEIR PERSONNEL AND, YOU KNOW, TRAINING. MM-HMM. . SO REALISTICALLY, IF WE'RE CUTTING AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S A STARTUP'S BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN CREATE OR FIT, HOW DO I SAY THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE GOAL THAT THEY HAD INTENDED TO. YEAH. WITH SUCH A, A LOWER AMOUNT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO. REACH OUT AND THEN HAVE THEM GET BACK TO US, SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH. THAT'S THE ONE THING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. AND THEN FOR FUTURE ORGANIZATIONS, I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT WE CANNOT THEN SAY THAT WE WILL NOT FUND ANOTHER ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THIS IS ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS, WHICH WE HAVE USED IN THE PAST AS A REASON WHY WE ARE NOT FUNDING. WELL IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHERE WE SENT, SENT IN WRITING THAT WE DO NOT ACCEPT A SECOND, A SECOND APPLICATION. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN WRITING. 'CAUSE OUR MEETINGS ARE WRITTEN, BUT IT'S NOT A WRITTEN THING. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SAID TO ONE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE WE WERE WONDERED WHY THEY CAME BACK SO FAST. AND ACTUALLY THEY CAME BACK ASKING FOR A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. SOMETHING WE WEREN'T SURE OF. SO IT IS NOT IN WRITING, IT IS NOT OFFICIAL. OKAY. IT'S A DECISION THAT WE MAKE AT ANY TIME. BUT THAT'S NOT A FAIR DECISION. WE CAN'T DO THAT. THAT MM-HMM. THAT IS NOT YOU SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME BACK AND ADD A NO, I KNOW, BUT IT CAN'T JUST BE OKAY FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. THIS, IT CAN'T, WE NEED SOLID, SOLID. THEY GOT $2,500. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS. WE CANNOT, CANNOT. BECAUSE, BECAUSE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES AND SO I, I DID HAVE A, AN OVERALL, SOME OVERALL QUESTIONS. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I IN READING THE STAFF ANALYSIS, THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE YEAH, IT WAS GOOD. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS. AND SO FOR ME, THE STAFF ANALYSIS HELPS ME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE RIGHT, RIGHT. SERVICES IN, IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, I AGREE THAT THE $10,000 AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH IT, I'M ALL BECAUSE I'M NOT IN HOMELESS SERVICES. THINGS LIKE PERSONAL COST, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BRING, EVEN IF IT'S IT'S STANDARD PRACTICE IS WHAT I'M HEARING. RIGHT. IT'S STANDARD PRACTICE. WELL, I KNOW WHAT PERSONAL COST. I THINK THEY MEANT PERSONNEL. OH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK PERSONAL. OH IT'S NOT, SHE, SHE SAID SHE EXPLAINED IT CASH. IT'S, SO FOR GRANTS THERE'S AN INDIRECT COST, WHICH IS REALLY JUST ADMINISTRATIVE COST, WHICH IS UP TO 10% OF THE GRANT. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE FOR OUR GRANTS. WE DON'T USUALLY COVER PERSONAL COSTS, WHICH IS INDIRECT COSTS JUST 'CAUSE OUR GRANTS ARE LOWER AND WE LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO IF I WERE TO SUGGEST ANYTHING, I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING. IF WE COULD, BECAUSE AS I LOOKED AT, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS EITHER, BUT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORGANIZATION BEING THEIR STARTUP. THEIR RESPONSE TO WHAT WOULD APPLY UNDER THAT IS RECEIPTS FROM GAS CARDS OR IF WE PAY VOLUNTEERS CASH FOR THEIR TIME, THERE WILL BE AN EXPLANATION DOCUMENT ALONG WITH OUR RECEIPT OF THE TRANSACTION, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE FORM OF A PHOTOCOPY OF THE CHECK OR MONEY ORDER TIED TO THE DOCUMENT THAT HAS AN EXPLANATION. WELL, I I PERSONALLY ANYTHING PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I GET THAT THEY'RE A STARTUP, BUT EVEN YOU STILL SHOULD HAVE A SYSTEM OF YOUR MONEY 'CAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A SYSTEM. SO I'M, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PERSONAL COST, [01:10:01] ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND AS I WAS LOOKING AT IT, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING BE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT MINUS THAT BECAUSE THE OTHER, UM, ITEMS I FELT LIKE MET OUR THRESHOLD OF GAP. SO WOULD THAT BE REASONABLE? UM, JIM TO UH, I JUST DON'T, AS I SAY, I'M NOT BEING THAT NOSED ABOUT IT. MM-HMM. . BUT THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY JUST PUT TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME. . AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT AND, UH, WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, MAYBE NOT. ALL I'M SAYING IS EVERYBODY'S WHAT, WHAT EVERYBODY WRITES IS DIFFERENT. SO EVERY, WELL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE MISSING IS THE STORY. THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD STORYTELLERS. SO THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I DON'T GET FROM THE, THE STORY WHICH WILL BE GREAT ADDRESS AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO COME. I COULD ALSO HARD TO EXPLAIN OVER EMAILS. SURE, SURE. GREAT. I JUST APPLIED FOR A FEE WAIVER FOR, TO USE THE DEPARTMENT. I HAD TO GO TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION AND FIRST ON THE AGENDA WAS EVERYBODY THAT NEEDED A FEE WAIVER, WE ALL HAD TO STAND UP AND EXPLAIN WHY AND WHAT WE DO. SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY CAN COME AND DO THE SAME THING. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE GOTTA DO. BECAUSE THEN SOMEBODY'S HERE THAT WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO WHERE WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY PART OF IT. SO JEN, THAT WOULD, SO WOULD A REDUCING IT TO $8,300 WITH THE 2,500 ADVANCE, 2,500 ADVANCE. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. JUST AS AN ADVANCE JUST 2,500. AND THEN THE REST IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THEM UNTIL WE HAVE, UNTIL THEY MEET THE THRESHOLD OF THE $2,500. ARE WE REALLY SURE THIS OUTFIT OPERATES IN LONG BEACH ? THAT'S REAL QUESTION. OKAY. NOT, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT'S, WHAT'S HARD IS THAT THE SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS ARE GONNA HAVE SHARED SPACE. THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT. I THINK RENT IS SUPER EXPENSIVE. IT'S NOT, UM, IDEAL FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN LOCATION, THEIR OWN BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATION. WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LIKE SENDING PEOPLE OUT OF LA TO COME DOWN HERE AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL AGENCIES, SUB-RECIPIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH. I KNOW. SO I, I DON'T, I THINK, I THINK YOU CAN ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THE, THE HAY AT THE UM, LARGER COMMITTEE. BUT I DO THINK THAT GOING IN AND SETTING A BUDGET, WHICH YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH, UM, IF YOU WERE TO REDUCE, SO LET'S SAY YOU WANNA REDUCE THE ACTUAL BUDGET, I WOULD PREFER YOU TO GO DOWN AND SAY LIKE, OKAY, I ONLY WANNA DO A BLANKET 5,000 FOR CLOTHING ASSISTANCE, 500 FOR EMERGENCY GROCERY ASSISTANCE INSTEAD OF A 2,500. BECAUSE THEN THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO, OKAY, WELL LET'S, LET'S DO THAT. LET'S GET IT. ALRIGHT, WHY DON'T WE GET IT DOWN TO SAY 5,000. 'CAUSE THE CLOTHING ASSISTANCE WAS THEIR BIG ONE OR ALL THAT DOWN THERE. CATCHALL ONE AT THE BOTTOM. WELL IT'S ALSO THEY GOT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, CLOTHING ASSISTANCE. SEE THAT? RIGHT. THAT THAT'S WHAT I DON'T SEE HOW THE VOCATIONAL TRAINING CLASS IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEM OR ARE THEY GONNA DO THEM PAYPAL THEM PAY FOR THEM. PAY FOR THEM. OKAY. SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS POSSIBLY, BUT I GET THAT THEY'RE GETTING STARTED. I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK NOW THAT I I'M HEARING IT. PERSONAL COSTS REALLY SHOULD HAVE JUST BEEN NON-RESTRICTED COSTS. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO WHEREVER THEY WANNA, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUSH IT AROUND. I THINK WITH THIS NON-RESTRICTED FUNDS. YEAH. IF, IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND YOU WANNA START CUTTING, THEN I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO START CUTTING. AND THIS DO BLANKET NUMBERS ACROSS. SO A THOUSAND FOR VOCATIONAL. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST VOCATIONAL CLASSES, IT'S EQUIPMENT FOR WORK. IT'S FOR, UH, SUB CLASSES THAT'S SUBSTANCE, UH, TRAINING COURSES, SMALL COURT FEES. I MEAN ALL THESE THINGS ARE STUFF THAT WE ACTUALLY DO SEE COME ACROSS DUI CLASSES. WELL, YEAH. SO, SO I WOULD SET THE BUDGET THAT WAY. WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE'LL TAKE OUT THE 1800 MM-HMM. RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. AND UH, I'D SAY REDUCE THE CLOTHING ASSISTANCE FOR A START AND THAT CATCHALL GOAT DOWN THERE TO SAY ABOUT 2,500 THAT WOULD GET THE, THE WHOLE THING DOWN TO ABOUT $5,000. DO WE LEAVE 3000 FOR THE GROCERY ASSISTANCE? HMM. DO WE LEAVE THE 1000 FOR THE GROCERY ASSISTANCE? YEAH. WHATEVER IT GETS DOWN TO SEE AGAIN. [01:15:01] SO MAYBE, SO BRING IT DOWN TO 3000. THAT LAST CATCHALL. YEAH. INSTEAD OF 5,500, BRING IT DOWN TO 3000. YEAH. RIGHT. AND MAKE THE OTHERS THE VOCATIONAL TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT A THOUSAND AND THE EMERGENCY GROCERIES A THOUSAND. SO THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR 5,000. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION STEPHANIE, I THINK WE WANT PEOPLE COMING BACK TO US AND HAVE GOOD PROJECTS. WHY WOULDN'T WE? WELL, BECAUSE I THINK THEY SAID WE, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A ORANGE. RIGHT. ONGOING. I'M SORRY. NOT US NOT WANTING TO BE AN ON LIKE TO BE FUNDING A FULL PROGRAM FOR FULL YEAR. NO, NOT A FULL PROGRAM. BUT PEOPLE ARE GIVING OUT THINGS NOW. AND WE DID SOME PEOPLE DISTRIBUTE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTING THINGS. WE FUNDED. I WOULDN'T CARE IF THEY CAME BACK EACH YEAR TO GET THE FUNDS TO DO THAT. I, SO I CAN NAME A FEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT I KNOW THAT WE'VE MENTIONED THIS PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WOULD BE COA FOR MEALS. YEAH. UM, URBAN COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE DENIED THEM A PORTION OF THEIR FUNDS BECAUSE THEY HAD REAPPLIED AS WELL. UM, WHO WAS THE OTHER ONE? GP BLANKETS OF LOVE, OBVIOUSLY. UH, BECAUSE THAT ONE WAS PRETTY RECENT AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER, HIS LITTLE FEE ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAD PREVIOUSLY APPLIED. AND THEN THAT WAS THE, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MENTIONED REGARDING THEIR APPLICATION AGAIN, WAS THAT IT WAS ONGOING. THEY HAD GOTTEN, I, I DON'T WANNA SAY A CUSTOM, BUT THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR APPLIED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDS AND WE DIDN'T WANNA SEE THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BRING IT UP IS BECAUSE WE'VE SHARED THIS INFORMATION BEFORE TO YOUR ORGANIZATION. THEY'VE CALLED ME REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KNOW IF THEY COULD APPLY AGAIN. BUT THAT I, I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT HARD FOR SOME ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IT AROUND. OKAY. POINT A. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO WE'LL SAY TAKE THAT OUT AT AND THE OTHER ONE DOWN TO ABOUT 3000. WHERE ARE WE F FIVE FIVE, 5,000. THAT'S GOOD. SO A THOUSAND FOR THE VOCATIONAL TRAINING. A THOUSAND FOR THE EMERGENCY GROCERIES AND, AND 3000 FOR, OKAY. MM-HMM. AND THEN PERSONAL COST OUT ALL THE WAY. IT'S ALL REIMBURSABLE. CORRECT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION. UM, I MOVE THAT WE FUND OKAY. THAT FOR $5,000. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO STILL SEE THE, IF THEY COULD, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA BE AT THE MEETING IN AUGUST, BUT I THINK IT JUST WILL BE WORTH THEM COMING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. YEAH, I COULD BECAUSE UM, AGAIN, I JUST FEEL THE THING THAT'S KIND OF MISSING IS THE STORY I WANT TO KNOW, AND I PUT THIS FOR MY, FOR THE NEXT ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT. LIKE HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT OPERATIONS? WHAT YOU WANNA DO. YEAH. HOW IS WHAT YOU WANNA DO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE DOING? BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T GET A SENSE OF THAT. AND THEN HEARING THAT COMES TOO. AND OF COURSE THE ONE THING THAT THEY KNOW I BRING UP ALL THE TIME MM-HMM. IS THEIR FILING ON THEIR IRS AND THIS ORGANIZATION HAS NEVER HAD RESOURCES OVER $50,000. WHICH ONE? THE ONE, THE NEXT ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE ON THE NEXT ONE NOW. OH. OH. SO IT MAKES, WAIT DID WE BOTH, HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS CONTRACTS AND WHERE ARE ALL THESE CONTRACTS IF THEY NEVER MADE OVER $50,000 A YEAR, WHAT KIND OF CONTRACTS ARE THEY SAYING THEY DO THEY HAVE CONTRACT SYSTEM? YEAH, THEY SAID THEY MEDI-CAL AND THE COUNTY. THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I THINK WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT. MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S HOW THEY WERE GONNA KIND OF SUSTAIN AFTER THE THREE MONTHS THAT THEY HAD CONTRACTS THAT WOULD, WOULD KIND OF FILL IN THAT WERE RECENTLY AWARDED TO THEM. YEP. RIGHT. AND UH, IF THEY WERE OPERATING THESE CONTRACTS THROUGH 2027, I THINK IT WAS, THEY HAVE A CONTRACT. WHY DID THEY NOT REPORT THE INCOME? I GOT A SENSE THAT IT WAS A NEW CONTRACT DUE AND IT GOES THROUGH TO 2027. I'M EXACTLY, I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS A NEW CONTRACT THAT GOES AND IT DOESN'T EXPIRE FOR, SO THEY LIKE JUST GOT IT AND IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM THROUGH 27 I THINK IS FOR PREP PDD. OH IS IT? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. WELL I I'M SORRY I MIGHT BE MIXING UP JIM BUSINESS. THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FIVE YEARS. OKAY. I GET SINCE 2020 AND THEY REPORT UNDER 50,000 A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS. SO IF THEY HAD CONTRACTS, WHERE'S THE MONEY? I SEE, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO SEE THAT'S THE KIND OF QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK BECAUSE I THINK WE DO HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY KNOW PEOPLE ARE RIGHT. LEGITIMATE. CORRECT. OH GREAT COPY RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I GUESS I HAVE A DIFFERENT, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIASED BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE, I KNOW, I KNOW. NO, I'M JUST, LET ME EXPLAIN THIS. I STILL FILE, UM, THE NINE 90 N RIGHT. AND EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DONE SO MUCH WORK, [01:20:01] WE'VE DONE THE WORK, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE GETS THE MONEY, THE MONEY DOESN'T COME TO US. OKAY. SO THAT'S HOW I'M JUST EXPLAINING ME. RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHY I DON'T FILE ANYTHING OVER THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HANDLE THE MONEY. WE PARTNER AND THEN WE GET, YOU KNOW, I STILL HAVE OUTCOMES BUT WE STILL HELP WITH RENT. IT STILL BE UTILITIES. WE DO IT. AND IF I PUT ALL THAT ON PAPER, IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT ME. SO IT DOESN'T COME IN. SO MINE IS YOU HAVE CONTRACTS WITH AGENCIES ONLY WITH ONE. BUT THAT, BUT THEY DON'T PAY ME. THEY ONLY, THEY ONLY PAY. LIKE I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH UNITED WAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S IT. UNITED WAY DOES NOT PAY ME BUT THEY FUND THE UTILITY PROGRAM. SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO I CAN'T COUNT THOSE DOLLARS 'CAUSE THOSE DOLLARS AREN'T MINE. SO THAT KEEPS ME UNDER WHATEVER AMOUNT. SO THAT'S, I'M JUST EXPLAINING THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS IN A NON-PROFIT. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS WELL BECAUSE WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO CLAUDE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, THIS IS NOT CLAUDE. IT'S NOT CLAUDE. THIS IS UH, NO THIS IS CLA. NO, CLAUDE IS PREP. PREP. WE'RE STILL IN ADVOCACY. OH, WE'RE STILL IN ADVOCACY. I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE. WE NO, WE VOTED ON ADVOCACY ON CLAUDE. WHAT? LOOKING, THE REASON I HAVE, I ASKED YOU FOR A COFFEE, BUT I REALIZE THERE'S NO DOLLAR AMOUNT PUT ON NINE 90 AND THEY JUST STATE THEY'RE UNDER 50,000. BUT THE ONE, THE COMPANY COMES IN AND SAYS IT HAS CONTRACTS WITH S THEN THEY SHOULD BE GETTING INCOME FROM, THEY SHOULD BE GETTING. BUT IF THEY HAVE THAT, I WISH I HAD THAT. RIGHT. I HAVE THAT. NO, AND I WOULD UNDERSTAND. I MEAN I THINK THAT MIGHT ALSO BE A LANGUAGE THING THAT WHERE WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSS. 'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT WHEN WE SAY CONTRACTS, SOMETIMES I CALL THE MOUA CONTRACT. YES. EVEN THOUGH I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A FULL FLEDGE CONTRACT. I AGREE. WELL, IT'S A TYPE OF CONTRACT. EXACTLY. BECAUSE THERE'S A CONTRACT WHERE I HAVE A STATEMENT OF WORK LIKE WITH MM-HMM. UNITED WAY. I'M DOING THIS WORK, BUT THEY ARE NOT PAYING ME. AND IT SAYS SO IN MY CONTRACT VERSUS, I DON'T KNOW, I DID SOMETHING FROM LASA OR I'M DOING SOMETHING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THEY'RE FUNDING ME SO THAT I CAN STAFF A CERTAIN PROJECT THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO YEAH. BUT I KNOW I'M MISSING THE APPLICATION HERE, AREN'T I? SO ONE THAT ONE IS FOR PREP. MM-HMM. . YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE URBAN ONE STILL. OKAY, THAT'S SO WE'RE ON THIS ONE. YEAH, I KNOW. I HAD A QUESTION. NOT SO MUCH. JUST CURIOUS QUESTIONS FROM PREP, LIKE ABOUT THE EVENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. I JUST LIKE WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR 500 BUT YOU DO IN KIND FOR TWO 50, YOUR THING IS ACTUALLY SEVEN 50. WHAT'S THE IN KIND SERVICES? WHAT WHAT IS THAT? NO, I WAS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT OH, URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES. OKAY. ADVOCACY. OH, I'M NOT SEEING THE APPLICATION. NO, I DIDN'T PRINT THE APPLIC. THE MAYORS SPEND APPLICATION. WELL SEE THAT'S WHERE THEY SAID THEY, I DIDN'T PRINT IT OUT, HAD CONTRACT, BUT I CAN PUT IT UP. VARIOUS COUNTIES. YES. THEY SAID THEY HAD CONTRACTS WITH LASA FOR I THINK 30,000 WITH MM-HMM. . I'M SORRY JIM. I'M SORRY JIM. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE NEXT THING I DID TOO. I'M SORRY. I SAY WAIT A MINUTE. SAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY, I THINK WE GOT THAT WHEN WE SPOKE TO THEM. ASK THE QUESTION. MM-HMM THE EMAIL FOLLOW UP. YEAH. I SEE. NOW THEY SAID THEY HAD BUSINESS OF ORANGE COUNTY. YES, THAT IS RIGHT HERE. HEALTH RECIPIENT RECIPIENT OF EQUITY IN ORANGE COUNTY GRANT INITIATIVE. WHERE CAL OPTIMIZE, UH, THEY RECEIVE OH, 69 5. YEAH. COLLECTIVELY IN FUNDING FROM THESE PROJECTS. YEAH. HOW MUCH IS THAT FIGURE? $69,500. WELL, , THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF IRS PROBLEM HERE. THEY DIDN'T REPORT IT AS INCOME. WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE CORRECT NAME? SO YOUR EMAIL SAYS SOCIAL SERVICE ADVOCACY. IS THAT FAIR? IS THAT THE NONPROFIT [01:25:01] NAME? I THINK IT'S URBAN APPLICATION. I THINK IT'S URBAN. URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES. RIGHT. AND ADVOCACY. OKAY. SO RIGHT AWAY WE HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION THERE IS TO WHY YOU STATED THIS IN YOUR APPLICATION. I THINK IT'S ALSO, I REMEMBER ISN'T THIS THE ONE THAT GAVE US THE ADDRESS AND THE UNIT NUMBER? MM-HMM. IT TURNED OUT TO BE THE PO BOX. WELL THE PO BOX IS JUST FOR THEIR, THEY DID THE, FOR THEIR MAIL. BUT IN THE APPLICANT INITIAL APPLICATION, THEY INDICATED THAT WAS THEIR ADMIN OFFICE. YEP. THAT THEY HAD A IN PERSON OFFICE. YES. AND THEN THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD TO LEAVE THAT LOCATION AND GO TO ANOTHER LOCATION. BUT THE ADDRESS THEY GAVE US WAS A PO BOX. THIS ADDRESS IS NOT A PO BOX. AND THAT'S THEIR CURRENT OFFICE. YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A QUESTION. WELL I, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FACT RIGHT HERE THAT THEY, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEIR FINANCES WHERE THEY'RE SAYING THEY RECEIVED $600,000 AND THEY DID NOT REPORT IT TO IRS 600,060. IT WAS 69. WELL THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WOW. THEY SAID THEY RECEIVED 69 WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. I DON'T WITHIN WHAT YEAR? THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR. THEY SAID LAST YEAR. THEY SAID, THEY JUST SAID WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. OKAY. BUT THERE WAS NO CLARITY WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THAT IS A QUESTION THAT CAN BE ASKED, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHY WAS NOT, WHY WASN'T THE 900 FORM COMPLETED THEN? WELL I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM JUST FOR LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE SMALL, WE DO THE SAME THING. SO WHEN AGENCIES, OR NOT AGENCIES, BUT WHEN FUNDERS ARE INTERESTED IN DONATING MONEY, THEY ASK ME FOR OUR FINANCIALS. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OUR INCOME STATEMENT AND THEN OF COURSE. SO WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR THAT. I AGREE. THAT'S WHAT, SO WHEN YOU HAVE THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS YEAH. WHEN THIS IS COMING UP AND THEN THEY'RE SAYING, OH WE GOT THESE CONTRACTS, WE GOT 69,000 AND THEY DID NOT FILE A NINE 90, THEN YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR FINANCIALS. RIGHT. RIGHT. WE CAN ASK THEM. SEE I THINK WE, I AGREE. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK. MM-HMM FOR WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST AND IN BOTH THESE CASES THEY'VE BEEN FILING THE NINE NINETIES SHOWING UNDER 50,000 AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY DO ALL THIS WORK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN EXPLANATION THAT NO, ABSOLUTELY. IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE BEING SEE AS IS A PERSONAL THING WITH ME. LOOK, ALL MY STUFF, ALL MY DUCKS ARE IN A ROW. SO I NEED EVERYBODY ELSE'S TO BE A ROW TOO . SO, SO I THINK ACTUALLY I AGREE. I THINK TOO WE GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND I DO THINK I QUESTION THE FACT ON THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ARE BASICALLY STARTING, IT'S A STARTUP ORGANIZATION AND I WOULD BE, IF THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, I'VE GOT CONTRACTS ALREADY SIGNED. EVERYTHING IS SET, BUT I'M SHORT $10,000 TO GET THIS OVER HUNT. I'D SAY, OH AMERICA I GIVE IT TO. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. YEAH. YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTRADICTORY. SO FOR URBAN THEN ARE, SHOULD WE NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING THEM TO HAYSTACK AND THEN HAVE THEM COME TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS? I I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THAT QUESTION. WHY? IF THEY'VE BEEN HAD ALL THESE CONTRACTS, THEY GOING MAKE MONEY. YEAH. WE'RE GONNA, WHY HAVEN'T THEY FILED IT ON THEIR NON ANXIETY? WELL, SO I THINK HONESTLY, I MEAN YOU GUYS CHIME IN. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THAT QUESTION OF MAYOR THE LARGER COMMITTEE. YEAH. WELL I MEAN WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WAS THINKING WE ASKED THAT QUESTION HERE. BUT YOU SAYING DO IT AT THE LARGER MEETING. I MEAN I THINK IT'S, IT GOES WITH, I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION NOW 'CAUSE WE WANNA KNOW THE COMMITTEE AND I THINK WE STILL INVITE THAT SHOULD ASK. I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THEM AS A FOLLOW UP. YEAH. BECAUSE WE, WE AS A COMMITTEE, WE DID APPROVE THEM WITH A A LESSER AMOUNT. SO THAT IS, WE APPROVED FOR A LESSER AMOUNT AND WE NEED THIS INFORMATION IN ADDITION ALSO. BUT BEFORE WE CAN RELEASE THE FUNDS. YES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY. AND THEN I THINK WE STILL SHOULD INVITE THEM TO COME TO THE YEAH, I AGREE. UM, BECAUSE OTHER MEMBERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN'T ANSWER ASKED, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE FACT OF GETTING THE APPLICATION SENT OUT TO US WHEN THEY GET, IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU GET THEM AND THEN HAVING US TAKE A LOOK AT 'EM AND THEN HAVING THE PERSON COME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING. YOU GUYS CAN DO YOUR PART SO THAT WHEN THEY COME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE'LL SEEN THE APPLICATION, WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEY CAN ANSWER. SO JUST MAKE THAT AS A STANDARD PART OF THE PROCESS. STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH IS AN INTER OR NOT AN INTERVIEW, BUT A, UM, COMING BECAUSE WE MOVE IT, IT MOVES THINGS ALONG A LOT FASTER. SEE WE'RE TAKING A MONTH EACH TIME WE HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE. YES, WE REALLY DO. I I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK THAT WOULD JUST MAKE, MAKING [01:30:01] THAT A STANDARD PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. RIGHT. FOR UM, APPLICATIONS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING. ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT THE STAFF IS, UM, RECOMMENDED. SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO ON THE PEPI? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD TELL THEM THAT WE'RE UNABLE TO FUND IT AT THIS TIME UNTIL THEY CAN SHOW US WHERE THE FUTURE INCOME IS GOING TO BE FOR THE P-E-P-P-E-P. YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS SAYING. WHERE IT SAYS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE TWO STAFF AFTER THE FUNDING RUNS OUT. YEAH. OUR ABILITY TO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM ME AND THE LA CARE CONTRACT WILL THEY, DIDN'T IT RAN OUT? AND I DO QUESTION THEIR BOOK THEIR ACCOUNT TOO, BECAUSE THEY DON'T MENTION PAYROLL TAXES. YOU SAID THAT. THEY SAID WHICH ONE SAID THEY HAD A CONTRACT WITH LAWS ADVOCACY OR BEEN ADVOCACY. THERE YOU GO. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, THIS IS MY, SOMETHING I'VE COME UP WITH. THEY SAID THEY WORK WITH US VETS AS A SUBCONTRACTOR. OKAY. SO THEY'RE WORKING OKAY. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT DIRECTLY THROUGH. CORRECT? NOT DIRECTLY. I JUST CALLED MY CONTRACTS PERSON IN LOSSES. I'M LIKE, UH, DO THEY HAVE A CONTRACT? WELL SEE WE'VE COME UP WITH THAT BEFORE WHEN THEY SAID THEY HAD COME CONTRACTS, WHAT PAGE WERE LOOKING AT CLARITY, YOU SAID I DON'T SAY BECAUSE THAT MADE SOUND LIKE THEY HAD THE DIRECT CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHY I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. I THINK. BUT IF THEY HAVE SUBCONTRACTED, THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. BECAUSE LAA HONESTLY IS NOT GONNA FUND THIS SIZE OF ORGANIZATION. YEAH. THEY SAID THEY WORKED WITH SPA EIGHT TO SUBCONTRACT. I WANNA SAY IT WAS US VETS. I CAN'T REMEMBER. MM-HMM. . I'M PRETTY SURE I WROTE THAT SOMEWHERE IN ONE OF THE THE THINGS. YEAH. BUT OKAY. YES. WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE AND THEN WITH THIS ONE. UM, OKAY, NOW JIM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT ABOUT NOT FUNDING THEM? WELL I'M SAYING ON PEP MM-HMM. CAN WE TELL THEM THAT CANNOT FUND IT AT THIS TIME UNTIL WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE FUTURE FUNDING IS GOING TO COME FROM. ADVANCE THREE MONTHS. THAT YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TOO. YEAH, JUST I WAS SAYING LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S FOR THREE MONTHS AND WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SUSTAINABILITY STRATEGY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA FUND SOMETHING AND THEN END UP THE IMPACT GOES AWAY BECAUSE WE AREN'T YOU AREN'T ABLE, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO SUSTAIN IT. MY HOPE IS THAT WE WANT THE ORGANIZATION. YEAH. THAT AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE A PLAN, BUT I, I WASN'T, I DON'T SEE IT HERE EITHER. NO, I THINK I AGREE WITH THAT. JUST TO, OR MAYBE WE GO BACK AND ASK THEM MORE QUESTIONS. I WAS GONNA SAY, HOW ABOUT WE PUT TOGETHER SOME QUESTIONS NOW. YEAH. AND THEN WE CAN INVITE THEM TO THE NEXT MEETING. UM, SO THAT THE NEXT ACTUAL SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY GO TO THE HSAC MEETING. HM. WHAT IF THEY GO TO THE HSEC MEETING TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I THINK I'M MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING THEM COME HERE FIRST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT OKAY WITH THE BUDGET YET. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN, AND THEN GO THERE. MOTION IS THAT WE TELL THEM NO, BASICALLY THIS POINT WE CANNOT FUND THIS UNTIL WE SEE SOME PROOF OF FUTURE REVENUE THAT WILL SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. WELL, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING NO, THEN IF YOU'RE SAYING NO, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY. WE'RE SAYING WE'RE SAYING NO, BUT WE'RE GIVING IF THEY CAN COME BACK WITH GOOD PROOF. WELL, AND THEN THAT'S WHY I THINK WE JUST SENDING THE QUESTIONS BACK. WELL, I I, WE, I THINK WE SHOULD DO QUESTIONS, BUT WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE THEM IF WE, IF THE WHOLE POINT IS TO GET THE STORY, TO GET THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE INDIVIDUAL. BLESS YOU. THEN WE BRING THE INDIVIDUAL TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. ASK THEM TO BRING ANY ATTACHMENTS, I'M SORRY, ATTACHMENTS. ANY ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT WE FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD BE SHARING WITH US. YEAH. AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN ADDRESS IT. 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY NO, THEN I THINK A BLANKET NO. AND THEN WE, WE DROP IT. I DON'T WANNA LEAVE A NO, BUT IF YOU DO THIS, SO WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA DECISION IT TODAY. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE. WE'RE SAYING NO TO THE THIS ONE. SO THEN WE'RE SAYING NO TO THE APPLICATION. AND IF THEY WANT TO APPLY AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY. OKAY. WITH ACTUAL PROOF OF FUTURE EARNINGS. OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE NOT INVITING, I DON'T MIND TELLING YOU WHY WE TURNED IT DOWN. WE'RE TURNING IT DOWN. BECAUSE YOU'VE ONLY GOT FUNDING FOR THREE MONTHS. WELL THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE NO THEY DON'T. THEY HAVE CONTRACTS. WELL THIS IS WHAT I'M ALSO TRYING TO EXPLAIN. THEY HAVE CONTRACTS BUT THEY'RE, THEY DON'T RECEIVE THE STIPEND AMOUNT. THE STIPEND AMOUNT IS THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE. THEY DON'T GET CONTRACTS. [01:35:01] THERE'S NO PROOF THEY HAVE CONTRACTS. NO, THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER ONE. THIS IS YOU'RE THIS IS PEP. CORRECT. HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE CONTRACTS? DO YOU HAVE A WELL THEY DE BUT THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T MENTION THEIR EVEN LICENSING. NO, NO, NO. THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH LA CARE. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE LICENSED FOR THAT, THAT THAT PART. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE LICENSED. BUT STILL, I WANT TO SEE THAT CONTRACT. I WANT TO SEE THAT IT'S GUARANTEED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE EARNINGS AFTER 90 DAYS. NOT JUST THEM TELLING US PROOF, PROOF WRITTEN STOP AND WRITE. OKAY. WELL THEN WE WILL DENY THE, THE APPLICATION OF IS IT OKAY TO DENY THE APPLICATION OR DOES THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM ASKING EXCUSE FOR ADDITIONAL, EXCUSE ME, I'M RUNNING THE MEETING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, AM I MAKING THAT MOTION? THEN WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY HAVE, WE'RE TURNING 'EM DOWN. I WOULD SAY WE DECLINE THIS AND WE SAY THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND SHOW US WHERE DOCUMENTATION ON FUTURE EARNINGS, IT WILL SUPPORT IT AFTER THREE MONTHS. SO I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I SAY THAT WE PAUSE MEANING LET THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS. WE'RE NOT DENYING IT IS CONTINGENT UPON PRESENTING THE ITEMS THAT YOU REQUESTED. OKAY. IF THEY CANNOT PRESENT THOSE ITEMS, THEN WE DENY IT. I'LL GO ALONG WITH THAT. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH. OH, OKAY. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. WE NEED DOCUMENTATION. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. JUST LET'S NOT DENY IT. JUST LET THEM, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT BE HERE. WE ASK QUESTIONS SO WE'RE NOT FUNDING IT TODAY. NOT SATISFIED. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT APPROVING FUNDING TODAY. THEY CAN PRESENT THAT TO US. THE APPLICATION STILL IN PROCESS. YES. COMMITTEE MEETING. CORRECT. COMMITTEE MEETING. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE SAYING. GOT IT. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO, WE WANT THEM TO COME IN PERSON. I THINK JUST GOING FORWARD, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE. YEAH. LIKE AFTER THIS MONTH EVERY, ANYBODY THAT WE ARE REVIEWING SHOULD BE HERE. SHOULD COME. RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS DO AFTER THE INITIAL MONTH WHERE WE DISCUSS IT INTERNALLY. THE ONLY THING I, I JUST DON'T WANT TO, THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE BRING IN ORGANIZATIONS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ALL PEER COLLECTIVE THOUGHTS. SO IF WE CAN COME IN, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE GONNA ASK AND THEN GO FROM THERE. THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO THE FIRST MEETING IS REVIEWING THE APPLICATION ITSELF, PUTTING TOGETHER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE. THE SECOND MEETING, THE SECOND SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, WE WILL THEN INVITE THE APPLICANT THERE TO DISCUSS. NO, I WOULD SAY I WOULD INVITE THEM TO THE MEETING RIGHT AFTER WE GET THE APPLICATION. BECAUSE THEN WE CAN MOVE IT FASTER THIS WAY. WE GO MONTH TO MONTH TO MONTH. WELL I HEAR BOTH OF THEM. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS I THINK MAYBE THIS WILL BE A GOOD UM, MIDDLE GROUND. WE HAVE 'EM COME LIKE YOU SAID. YEAH. BUT WE TAKE THE FIRST PART OF THE MEETING SO WE CAN GATHER OUR THOUGHTS AND REVIEW AND THEN HAVE THEM COME DURING THE SECOND. WE DON'T LET THEM UNTIL THE SECOND HALF OF THE MEETING. SO THAT WAY IT SPEEDS IT UP. WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER BEFORE WE LET THEM IN THE ROOM AND WE'LL HAVE OUR QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER. WHICH PUTS THE ONUS ON US TO BE PREPARED WITH OUR QUESTIONS. WE COME TO THE MEETING. YEAH. NO, I'M SAYING NO, NO. FOR US FOR WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE THOROUGHLY READ EVERYTHING, HAD OUR QUESTIONS AND BE READY TO GO. ABSOLUTELY. SO IS THAT GOING TO WORK? IN OTHER WORDS, WE'LL GET THE THING AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE APPLICATION. MM-HMM WE LOOK AT IT. SHOULD WE FORWARD OUR QUESTIONS? WELL, SO WE, WE WE'RE NOT GONNA RELEASE APPLICATIONS AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE 'EM. WE'LL RECEIVE, WE'LL RELEASE IT ONCE IT'S TIME FOR THE COMMITTEE. JUST 'CAUSE EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING HAS TO, IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO IT WILL BE RELEASED. WE HAVE TO SORT IT THROUGH, PUT TOGETHER, MAKE SURE THEY PASS THAT INITIAL THRESHOLD REVIEW. AND THEN ONCE WE PUT IT TOGETHER, WE'LL SEND IT OUT. WE CAN THEN INVITE EVERYONE TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. WHY CAN'T WE SEND OUT THE APPLICATION TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? BECAUSE THEN THERE'S PARSE QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE EMAILED THAT THEN IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR US TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER, HAVE IT RECORDED, DISCUSS, AND THEN POST. I WAS STILL DOING THE SAME AS WE'RE DOING NOW. THEN WE WOULD BE DOING IT FASTER. 'CAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU ONLY HAVE 30 MINUTES FOR YOUR REGULAR AGENDA AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER 30 MINUTES TO DISCUSS THE APPLICATION. I, I WOULD PERSONALLY, I WOULD SAY I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT SENT OUT SO I CAN LOOK AT IT. SO WHEN I COME TO THE MEETING I'LL HAVE SOME INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS. CORRECT. WE ARE RELEASING THIS. OH, WHAT'D YOU SAY? ALRIGHT. ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO AND A ALRIGHT, WE GO AROUND CIRCLES HERE. WELL I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING AND WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT [01:40:01] THEY, WE CANNOT HAVE IT BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT'S SENT TO US IS FOR THE PUBLIC. PUBLIC. AND SO THAT MEANS, SO THAT'S THE APPLICATION AND ANY OTHER CORRESPONDENCE THAT, I THINK IT'S THE PUBLIC PART THAT TIES OUR HANDS TO WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO, WHICH IS TO ALMOST BE CC'D WHEN THEY'RE SENDING IT TO STAFF IS WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND HEARING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING WRONG FROM THE BROWN ACT. . 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO KIND OF HAVE IT READY SO THAT ONCE WE POST THE AGENDA, I CAN ATTACH EVERYTHING FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T SEND IT OUT WITH THE AGENDA, DO WE? NOW I NOTICED I JUST A CALL FROM YES. I, THIS LAST TIME I SENT IT OUT WITH THE AGENDA. WE SENT IT OUT WITH THE AGENDA. IF THERE'S ANY LIKE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I JUST HAD A CALL FROM NATALIE BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT SHE GOT THE AGENDA BUT SHE DIDN'T GET THESE, THEY WEREN'T ATTACHED. YEAH, THEY SHOULD, THE AGENDA SHOULD HAVE BEEN ATTACHED. THEY'RE ALL ATTACHED AND EVERYTHING IS ALSO PUBLIC ON UH, ONE MEETING. SO JUST SAY, I'M JUST SAYING WHEN NATALIE SAID SHE GOT THE AGENDA BUT SHE DIDN'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION ATTACHED. I CAN RESEND IT TO HER BUT IT'S ALL ON WOULD WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE SENT IT OUT TO HER. NATALIE SENT ME AN EMAIL ASKING ME FOR A DIFFERENT ATTACHMENT AND I FORWARDED TO HER TWO WEEKS. NO, TWO WEEKS AGO. NO, NO. THAT'S LAST WEEK. NOT SURE. I DON'T EVER, I, BUT I WILL SAY I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE WAS ATTACHMENTS 'CAUSE I RESENT IT AND IT WAS ON OUR FRIDAY OFF. SO IT WASN'T LAST WEEK. IT WAS SO TWO WEEKS AGO'S. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT, THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. SO, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. CAN THE PUBLIC ASK A QUESTION? YES. THERE'S MO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST SORRY. REALLY QUICK ON NATALIE THOUGH. I WON'T BE ADDING HER TO THE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO YOU GUYS ANYMORE. SHE'LL HAVE TO VIEW IT THROUGH ONE MEETING LIKE THE PUBLIC BECAUSE SHE'S NO LONGER PART OF ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO THEN CAN WE ALSO, WILL IT BE REGARDING JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT WELL ACTUALLY MAYBE WE CAN BRING IT IN HERE. EXCUSE ME. I'LL TAKE, I YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, SHE CAN'T ASK A QUESTION. SO OKAY, SURE. IF YOU GUYS GET GET THE APPLICATIONS, YOU CAN YOU LIKE EMAIL EACH OTHER THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK. YOU CAN'T DO THAT AHEAD. NO, WE CAN'T DO. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M ON ANOTHER GROUP AND THAT'S ANSWERED MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BROWN ACT. I KNOW SAY IT'S LIKE IT TIED ON HANDS. YEAH, YOU REALLY ARE BECAUSE THAT WAS YEAH IT WOULD, IT WOULD. A LOT OF THINGS WOULD. BUT BROWN ACT IS, THAT'S AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. SO WE NEED A VOTE ON THE PREP ED. OKAY. SO WHAT'S OUR FINAL READOUT ON THE, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RECOMMENDATION TO HOLD AND INVITE THE ORGANIZATION TO THE NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. MM-HMM. ALONG WITH FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS, DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW FINANCIAL, FINANCIAL THE SET OF CONTRACT YOU WANNA SEE OR SOMETHING. SIGN CONTRACT. AGREE. WHATEVER CONTRACTS WE SAY THAT THEY HAVE. YEAH. THEY SAID THEY TALKS ABOUT GETTING INCOME FROM MEDI-CAL AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, SO WE WANT TO SEE ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION OF WHERE THE INCOME IS GOING TO COME FROM. OKAY. EVEN IF IT, IF IT'S AN M OOU, WE WANNA SEE AN MOU WITH WHATEVER. MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WHO WAS YOUR SECOND? OH, SECOND. SECOND. I LOST MY SECOND ALL AGENDA. I THINK THAT WAS, WAS THAT PART NUMBER SIX? OKAY. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL I THINK LET'S PUT, PUT BACK ON THAT FUNDRAISING SO WE CAN KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT. YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL HOPEFULLY ADDITIONAL, UM, UM, WHAT'S THE WORDS LIKE OUTSIDE OF OUR, UH, THE ENVELOPES? LIKE THE NEW YEAH. CONTINUE TO TALK THROUGH. MM-HMM. THE, OUR ADDITIONAL WAYS AND I WILL ADDITIONAL MEANS. YEAH. I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHO WE CAN TALK. WHO'S THE BEST PERSON TO TALK TO AT THE UTILITY TO GET A POSITIVE ANSWER. CAN I ALSO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD TO A FUTURE AGENDA TO, LIKE THIS PROCESS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, HAVING PEOPLE COME IN, PERSON BEING ABLE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS. CAN WE PUT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN IN WRITING? SO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL PROCEDURE, WE CREATE SOPS. YES. I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT. YEAH. I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU. HOW DO WE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE CREATE SOPS? YEAH. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? A. OKAY. NO OTHER ITEMS. [01:45:01] I THINK THAT'S IT. WE GOT A LOT PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. SHE'S LIKE, NOPE, I'M DONE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.