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PLACE.I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR COMMISSION ON AGING MEETING TO ORDER ON THIS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 14TH AT 10:03 AM UH, CAN IRENE, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE A ROLL CALL? MICHELLE VALENCIA.
UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, CAN YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? IF EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE RISE.
PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND JOIN WITH ME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT AGENDA TODAY.
UM, I WOULD MAKE LIKE SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON AGINGS.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO DO THE, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE ISSUE? OH, YES.
UH, CAROLINE, CAN YOU PLEASE READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT? OH, YOU'RE GOOD.
WE ADVOCATE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR LONG BEACH'S, CULTURALLY DIVERSE OLDER POPULATION BY EXPANDING KNOWLEDGE AND SERVICES RELATED TO EDUCATION, HEALTH, HOUSING, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, SAFETY, TECHNOLOGY, AND LANGUAGE ACCESS.
AND COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, CAN YOU PLEASE READ OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT? WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE ADVISORY.
WE, THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON AGING RECOGNIZED THAT WE ARE ON TRADITIONAL AND SACRED LANDS OF MANY INDIGENOUS GROUPS WHO CALLED THESE GROUNDS HOME.
WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR STRENGTH, PERSEVERANCE, AND RESILIENCE IN THEIR SPIRIT.
WE MAY, MAY WE STRIVE TO ALWAYS HONOR AND RESPECT THE WISDOM OF OUR ELDERS.
UH, NOW MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JULY MINUTES FOR OUR COMMISSION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE JULY MINUTES.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WHERE'S KAREN
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE JULY MINUTES? SAY AYE.
ANYONE OPPOSED? AND ANYONE ABSTAINING? THE MOTION CARRIES.
UH, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE FROM, UH, HEIDI HAAS.
WILL YOU NEED A MOTION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I'LL DO IT.
AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND OF THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND.
NOW IS WHEN WE HAVE YOUR REPORT.
SO GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO I AM, UM, I DON'T HAVE A, A REPORT ON, UM, OUR SENIOR PROGRAMS, BUT I DO HAVE A, UM, I WANT TO INTRODUCE NANCY DIOR, WHO IS A PROJECT MANAGER WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.
UM, SHE'S GONNA BE DOING A REPORT ON OUR BEHALF IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE NEW SENIOR CENTER AND SOME, UM, EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.
SHE'S WORKING ALONGSIDE, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT AND, UM, WITH OUR PARK PLANNING BUREAU.
UM, AND AS WE GET INTO THE PROCESS OF THIS NEW SENIOR CENTER.
SO I'M GONNA WELCOME NANCY AND KIND OF PASS IT TO HER.
GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONER, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
UM, SO I, I'M NANCY DIAZ AND HEIDI STATED, UH, PROJECT MANAGER WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND, UM, SHER BEATTY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
SHE'S THE ACTING PLANNING AND PARTNERSHIPS MANAGER.
UM, BUT WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING, UM, UH, WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER, UM, WITH HEIDI AND, AND HER STAFF HERE, UH, AT THE SENIOR CENTER TO, UH, REALLY, UM, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, GATHER SOME DATA, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, THE NEEDS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND AS WE, UH, WORK ON THE SENIOR CENTER AT 1 25 ELM, UM, I, I'M NOT THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT, BUT WAS BROUGHT IN TO HELP WITH THE ENGAGEMENT AND EFFORT.
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OUR STRATEGY IS REALLY, UM, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING.ONE, WE HAVE A SURVEY THAT IS OPEN NOW, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE AND, UH, PROVIDE THEIR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.
AND, UM, OF, OF COURSE, YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO TAKE THAT SURVEY.
UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE A CURE CODE ON THE FLYER.
SO WE ARE HAVING, IN ADDITION TO THE SURVEY, WE ARE HAVING A WORKSHOP HERE AT, AT THIS FACILITY ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY CONDUCIVE, UH, TO, UM, ALL OUR SENIOR POPULATIONS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COLLECTED CITYWIDE FEEDBACK.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ADDITION TO THIS LARGER MEETING IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE POPUP EVENTS AT DIFFERENT, UH, PART COMMUNITY SPACES WHERE THEY HAVE SENIOR PROGRAMMING.
AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, JUST WAITING ON THE TRANSLATION FOR THAT FLYER AND WE'LL MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL AND ALSO MAKE IT AVAILABLE AT, UH, THE OTHER PARK COMMUNITY CENTERS, UM, THAT HOSTS SENIOR PROGRAMMING.
UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THE MATERIALS YOU'RE SEEING TODAY, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO ADVERTISE BROADLY SO THAT WE REALLY SPREAD THE WORD AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.
SO, UM, THERE WAS A PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS DEVELOPED SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME MEDIA ATTENTION.
UM, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE HAVING POSTERS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN, UM, GO TO THE LINK OR USE A QR CODE TO TAKE THE SURVEY.
UM, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT NOT EVERYONE, UM, MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE TAKING A SURVEY WITH A LINK OR A QR CODE.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, FINALIZING THE PAPER SURVEYS AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE DROP BOXES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE A PAPER SURVEY, UH, UH, AND GO AHEAD AND DROP IT IN, IN THE BALLOT BOX.
AND SO, UH, WE'LL BE COLLECTING ALL THAT DATA AND TABULATING IT.
UM, THE POSTERS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WILL DIRECT PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN GO TO, UM, UH, DIFFERENT PARK FACILITIES OR THEIR LOCAL LIBRARY TO ALSO PICK UP A SURVEY IN CASE THEY HAPPEN TO SEE THE POSTER AT A LOCATION WHERE THE SURVEYS ARE NOT AVAILABLE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY, UM, MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE MEETING, INVITE IT, IT IS IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND THE SURVEY IS IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AS WELL.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM A BROAD SPECTRUM OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, UH, AS WE'RE COLLECTING THIS DATA IN SEPTEMBER, UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
THE DATE IS YET TO BE DETERMINED.
UM, BUT UM, AT THE FOLLOW UP MEETING, UM, WE ANTICIPATE RELEASING SOME OF THE FINDINGS FROM THE DATA WE'VE COLLECTED, UM, AND PRESENTING IT AT THAT MEETING AND COLLECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON, ON WHAT WE FOUND.
UH, ANOTHER THING I SHOULD POINT OUT IS, UM, PARKS, REC AND MARINE IS, AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE VERY CLOSELY WORKING ON THIS, BUT HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, AS WELL, UM, IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS.
UM, AND YES, AT THIS TIME I CAN OPEN IT UP IN CASE ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
HAVE YOU PICKED AN ARCHITECT AND DESIGNER YET? GREAT QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR
SO THERE IS, UH, A DESIGNER, THEY ARE WEST GROUP DESIGN.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE BASED OUT OF SAN DIEGO IF I'M NOT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH US ON THIS OUTREACH EFFORT SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO BE DESIGNING THE BUILDING.
AND SO THEY'RE DEVELOPING ALL THE GRAPHICS FOR OUR OUTREACH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE ALSO, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS, UH, AND THE POSTERS AND THE SURVEYS.
SO THEY'RE HELPING US WITH ALL THAT EFFORT.
AND THEY'LL CONTINUE ON AFTER, UH, WE COMPLETE THE ENGAGEMENT PHASE.
THEY'LL CONTINUE ON TO, UH, WORK ON THE DESIGN FOR, FOR THE NEW, UH, SENIOR CENTER.
CAN YOU, UM, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WHEN THE PRINTED SURVEYS ARE OUT, CAN YOU JUST BLANKET MAIL THEM TO ALL THE SENIOR, UH, RESIDENCIES, LIKE THE, THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR 55 AND OLDER AND JUST MAIL IT TO EACH ADDRESS LIKE OCCUPANT SO THAT EACH ADDRESS WILL GET IT IN THE MAIL.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THE SENIORS MAY NOT GO TO PARKS, MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO LIBRARIES.
SO IF WE COULD JUST MAIL IT TO THEIR HOME, LIKE A VOTER REGISTRATION THING, THEY COULD JUST GET IT.
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55 BECAUSE IT'S A DESIGNATED SENIOR BUILDING.SO THEN EVERYBODY CAN JUST GET IT IN THE MAILER.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN INQUIRE ABOUT.
OH,
UM, I WOULD PREFER TO TAKE THIS SURVEY ONLINE AND, 'CAUSE IF I DO IT WITH THIS QR CODE, IT HAS TO BE ON MY PHONE.
UM, IS THIS BIT LIE SENIOR? IS THAT THE, UM, SURVEY LINK IF I TYPED IN MY COMPUTER? YES.
UM, WE HAD A EARLY DISCUSSION WHERE WE THREW OUT IDEAS HERE.
I THINK THAT WAS BEFORE, MAYBE BEFORE YOU WERE ALREADY GONNA THE MEETING.
UM, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, UH, ARE, ARE THERE ANY, UH, IF WE WANTED TO FEED IN IDEAS ON OUR SURVEY, ARE THERE ALREADY CERTAIN, UH, LIMITATIONS ON SPACE OR CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY KIND OF PLANNED? WHAT LIKE, IS IT, HOW MUCH SPACE IS IT? HOW MANY FLOORS IS IT? UH, THAT SORT OF THING? UM, I DON'T HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HANDY, BUT THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE BUILDING AT 1 25 L UHHUH
AND THE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE, UH, FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.
UM, THERE'S TWO PORTIONS OF, OF THAT FLOOR.
AND I KNOW THAT THE ABOVE FLOORS WILL BE FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE THE CRIME LAB, THEY SAID YES.
UM, SO I, I DO RECALL THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS SMALLER THAN THIS.
SO, UM, SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPACES THAT ARE FLEXIBLE USE AND, AND THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE MANY DIFFERENT USES SO THAT THERE'S STILL QUALITY PROGRAMMING HAPPENING.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD SUGGESTED WAS THE POST OFFICE HAVE A BRANCH THERE.
THAT'S A VERY, AMONG OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT WAS A, SOME OF THE THINGS WE THREW OUT.
AND I CERTAINLY THINK THAT AS A A COMMISSION WE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN AT LEAST MEETING WITH THAT DESIGN COMPANY AT SOME POINT.
WELL, JUST THE HEIGHT OF TOILETS, FOR INSTANCE, MAY NOT COME TO THEIR MIND IF THEY'RE YOUNGER PEOPLE, WHICH WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH SENIORS AND I, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO IF THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD MEET WITH THE DESIGN FIRM, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
THOSE OF US WHO HAD IDEAS AND WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND, AND I WILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK, UM, THAT FEEDBACK BACK.
AND I WONDER WHY YOU DIDN'T PICK A LOCAL FIRM.
WE HAVE SOME GREAT LOCAL DESIGN FIRMS. I'M SURPRISED, I'M SURPRISED TOO ABOUT THAT.
UH, WHY WOULD YOU GO TO SAN DIEGO IN MY, AND I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT.
I, I KNOW WE HAVE A LARGE BENCH OF, OF, UH, FIRMS AND I, I KNOW IRVINE SEEMS TO BE REALLY BIG FOR SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE LOCAL FIRMS. AND SO, UM, I, I'M NOT THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT, BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE WAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT WAS SELECTED.
UH, SO THIS FIRM WAS AVAILABLE AS PART OF THE BENCH, A BENCH OF FIRMS THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT CAN SELECT FROM.
AND THEN I ALSO SEE THAT THE, THIS MEETING AT THE SENIOR CENTER IN SEPTEMBER 12TH.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
NOW THE OLD EDISON BUILDING IS NOT GONNA BE THE ENTIRE BUILDING FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, LIKE HERE.
SO THAT IT'S NOT GONNA TO BE THE SIZE AND THE CAPACITY THAT THIS ONE'S ALREADY TOO SMALL.
SO LIKE FOR FOOD GIVEAWAYS AND FOR THE REGULAR COURSES AND CLASSES THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT, ADD OTHER THINGS, THE SENIOR REALLY LOSE THEIR BUILDING AND THIS OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT GET IT, WE JUST GET TO HAVE A HOUSE BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE GONE.
UH, I, I DUNNO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THIS BUILDING, BUT IT WON
I MEAN, THIS WON'T BE THE SENIOR CENTER.
IT WON'T, SO THE EQUITABLE QUESTION WOULD BE WE LOSE THE CAPACITY TO DELIVER SERVICES BY HAVING A CITY OWNED BUILDING AND WE'LL JUST BE IN EVERY 60% OF THE POPULATION.
BUT WE WON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GET PROGRAMS IN A BUILDING FOR THE SENIORS BECAUSE WE'LL BE REDUCED AND MUCH SMALLER.
AND I, I'M NOT ON THE PROGRAMMING SIDE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU WANNA TOUCH ON THAT HEIDI, JUST 'CAUSE I, I I DON'T DO PROGRAMMING.
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YEAH.SO THE BUILDING ITSELF I KNOW HAS, IT IS DIFFERENT FLOORS, BUT THEN THERE'S LIKE THE PARKING IN BETWEEN.
SO NOT ALL THE FLOORS ACTUALLY ARE, UM, LIKE SPACES WHERE YOU WOULD PROGRAM.
SO LIKE THE SECOND FLOOR IS JUST A PARKING, UM, THE PARKING LOT.
AND THEN LIKE THE THIRD FLOOR I THINK IS LIKE HALF PARKING, HALF BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE ALL LIKE SEPARATE LIKE ENTRANCES.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE ONE BUILDING LIKE THIS.
SO IT WOULD, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND TO AT THAT FACILITY.
BUT YEAH, THE SPACE IS SMALLER.
SO, UM, AS WE GET RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MAKE IT FLEXIBLE.
BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY KEEPING IN MIND ALL OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS AND LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE PROGRAMS. 'CAUSE LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, LIKE, UH, NUTRITION PROGRAMS OR OUR, UH, FOOD IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE GO INTO DESIGNING THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE LIKE, HEY, WE NEED A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN DELIVER THE FOOD OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND ALL LIKE, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE ENTRANCES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAKE THEM ACCESSIBLE.
SO IT MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THIS FACILITY.
THIS FACILITY ITSELF IS GREAT IN THE TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT IT'S NOT THE MOST EASIEST TO GET AROUND.
LIKE OUR STAIRS ARE NOT DEFINITELY FRIENDLY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SENIORS OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ELEVATOR, WHICH IS GREAT.
SO DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND AS WE LOOK AT THIS PLACE, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE RESULTS, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL, UM, PUT INTO, UM, THE FACTORS.
UM, BUT THE SPACE IS, WILL BE ONE FLOOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KEEPING IN MIND ALL THOSE PROGRAMMING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, NOT SURE HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK YET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP ON MIND AS WE MOVE INTO PROGRAMMING AND BUILDING THE STRUCTURE.
ALSO, I WANT TO VERIFY THAT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY MEETING, RIGHT? NO.
WE WILL BE HAVING A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
UH, BUT THAT DATE IS IS WAIT, THIS IS THE ONLY THIS MEETING.
SO IT'S JUST SURVEYS AND THEN THIS MEETING? NO, THERE, THERE WAS, BUT THEN PRIOR TO THE FOLLOW UP MEETING THAT HAS, THAT GIVES US THE SURVEY RESULTS.
SO THIS MEETING AND THEN SURVEYS AND THEN THERE'S A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
SO THERE'S FIVE KIND OF OTHER MEETINGS.
SO WE DO HAVE, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, ONE MAIN MEETING, RIGHT.
BUT THEN, UM, UM, NANCY ALLUDED TO THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR, UM, KIND OF TRANSLATION FOR POPUP MEETING EVENTS.
SO WE HAVE FIVE OTHER MEETINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE THE SAME THING AS THIS, THIS SEPTEMBER 12TH, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BE AT DIFFERENT SENIOR CENTERS.
SO WE HAVE ONE AT EL DORADO SILVERADO HERE AGAIN AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND THESE ARE DURING DAYTIME PROGRAMS. 'CAUSE WE WANNA REALLY MEET LIKE THE SENIORS COME TO OUR PROGRAM AND TWO WHO NOT ABLE TO COME TO THIS NIGHT PROGRAM OR THEY LIVE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
THAT'S HARD FOR THEM TO TRANSFER DOWN HERE TO THAT ONE MEETING.
SO WE DO HAVE FIVE OTHER MEETINGS DURING THE DAYTIME FROM AS EARLY AS 10 30 IN THE MORNING, AS LATE AS ONE O'CLOCK AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE CITY.
SO THAT FLYER, I DO HAVE COPY, BUT IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY OUT YET.
SO THERE ARE FIVE ADDITIONAL TO THIS ONE.
AND THEN ALL THESE WERE, THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE SIMILAR AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE BASED ON SURVEY.
THERE'S GONNA BE ACTIVITIES AT THESE WORKSHOPS TOO THAT JUST NOT, WE JUST COME IN AND DO THE ACTIVITY.
THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT I THINK THE, UM, GROUP IS WORKING ON THAT THEN THEY WOULD GET MORE INPUT AND MORE ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AT THESE, UH, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER FOREVER, CERTAINLY FOR AT LEAST THIS LAST YEAR.
AND THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN ASKING.
SO THIS IS NOT POINTED, UH, ANYBODY HERE, BUT WE AS A GROUP SUPPOSEDLY VOICE THEM.
'CAUSE WE HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO THIS COMMISSION, HAVE BEEN ASKING TO HAVE SOME INPUT INTO SOME OF THE DECISION MAKING THAT HAS, THAT IS HAPPENING.
AND ALL THAT I SEE HAPPENING HERE IS YOU GUYS COMING AND TELLING US WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
NOBODY AT THIS POINT HAS INVITED ANY OF US.
AND WE'VE ASKED REPEATEDLY TO BE PART OF THIS DECISION MAKING.
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SITTING HERE AND BEING TOLD WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO DECISION MAKERS, NOT TO BE TOLD WHAT THE DECISIONS ARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
NOW WE'VE BEEN TOLD AS COMMISSIONER HEINZ POINTED OUT, A LARGER POPULATION THAT KEEPS GROWING AND WE'RE NOW BEING GIVEN A SMALLER FACILITY.
NOW, HOW THE HECK IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO HEART OF IDA? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO GREAT PANTHERS? ARE THEY GONNA LOSE THEIR OFFICES? YES, THEY WILL.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO? AND THEY'RE INCREDIBLY USEFUL THINGS.
PEOPLE COME HERE FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO AGAIN, NOTHING ABOUT YOU GUYS.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING, BUT THERE'S SOMEBODY
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THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO.THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT IS MAKING DECISIONS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES ANYMORE.
I, I DON'T THINK IF YOU'RE A COMMISSION, YOU SHOULDN'T BE A COMMISSION BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO.
YOU SHOULD BE A COMMISSION TO HELP PARTICIPATE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WE CAN COMPLAIN TO THIS ABOUT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT YOU GUYS AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
SO ARE WE ALL GOING TO THIS MEETING THEN? I I, WE SHOULD.
I MEAN, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHY AS THE COMMISSION ON AGING FOR THIS CITY, ARE WE NOT INVOLVED? NOT IN A BIG MEETING, BUT TALKING WITH A DECISION MAKERS? WHO ARE THESE DECISION MAKERS, DESIGN FIRM, WOULD THAT BE MORE LIKE MAYBE A DESIGN FIRM IN SAN DIEGO? WOULD, WOULD THAT BE MORE LIKE IN THE FOLLOW UP MEETING WHEN WE GET THE SURVEY RESULTS OF WHAT ALL THE SENIORS ARE LOOKING FOR? I GUESS SO.
AND THEN WE COULD, IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS ALREADY HAVE BEEN MADE THAT WILL AFFECT ANYTHING.
LIKE, SHOULD WE HAVE MOVED IN THE FIRST PLACE? 'CAUSE I MEAN, I ASKED THIS LONG AGO, I SAID, WHAT WAS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE AND WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO? AND THE MINUTE I HEARD THAT, I THOUGHT, WELL, BOY, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO KAREN, SHE GOES, I'M NOT GONNA LOSE MY OFFICE.
I SAID, WELL KAREN, YOU PROBABLY ARE GONNA LOSE YOUR OFFICE BECAUSE IT'S YOUR OFFICE OR, AND WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THOSE GREAT POOL TABLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S HERE.
I MEAN, I, AGAIN, IT'S NOT YOU GUYS, BUT SOMEBODY, THERE'S SOME CABAL OF GROUPS THAT'S MAKING DECISIONS AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE TALKING TO THEM DIRECTLY, NOT IN A BIG MEETING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CITY MANAGER OR WHOMEVER, BUT I WOULD LOVE THAT FOR US AS A COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO WHOEVER THESE QUOTE UNQUOTE DECISION MAKERS ARE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE, UH, REGARDING THE UPCOMING MEETINGS THAT NANCY HAS TOLD US ABOUT? NO, I JUST, I WONDER WHO, WHO YOU'RE EXPECTING TO ATTRACT TO THE NIGHTTIME MEETING, BECAUSE EVEN I CAN'T COME TO THE NIGHTTIME MEETING BECAUSE IT'S NIGHTTIME.
SO AS HEIDI SAID, THERE'S FIVE OTHER DAYTIME MEETINGS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN ON THAT BIG MEETING TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WITH MY OWN EARS AND MY OWN EYES.
UM, IT'S, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME, BUT I JUST WONDERED WHO, WHO, WHO WOULD BE COMING TO THAT MEETING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO PUT IT IN? WELL, UM, NOT, NOT ALL SENIORS.
SOME ARE STILL WORKING, RIGHT? SO THAT COULD BE THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL WORKING AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME DURING THE DAY TO THOSE MEETINGS.
BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT'S BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THE CITY OFFICIALS ARE GONNA BE AT THAT MEETING, THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND THAT'S WHY THEY PUT IT IN.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY CITY EMPLOYEES.
BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, ALONG, ALONG THE LINES OF, OF WHAT YOU STATED IS, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT, WE, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET SENIOR, UH, FEEDBACK FROM SENIORS, BUT THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S OF CITYWIDE SIGNIFICANCE.
SO WE WANT TO DRAW PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE DAY, UH, DURING THE DAY.
UM, AND WE ARE EXPECTING, UM, WE, THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE INVITED BOTH COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BECAUSE THE SENIOR CENTER IS IN DISTRICT TWO MM-HMM.
UM, BUT ALSO COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE BECAUSE THE NEW SENIOR CENTER WILL FALL IN THAT COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO THEY'VE BEEN INVITED AS WELL.
BUT, UH, THAT WAS REALLY OUR, OUR GOAL, UM, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE, WE WANTED TO GO AND MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT.
'CAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE THIS MEETING, LIKE, LIKE WE WANNA MAKE IT DURING HOURS THAT A BROADER POPULATION CAN MAKE IT TO.
BUT WE REALLY TRY TO BE EQUITABLE AND, AND MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT.
UM, AT THESE, UH, OTHER WORKSHOPS, THE POPUP EVENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
UM, AND WE WILL HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES AT SOME OF THESE.
UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE THAT WE CAN AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE DATE OR TIME IS NOT GONNA WORK FOR EVERYONE.
SO, BUT THE, THE QUESTION IS NOT ABOUT THE BROADER POPULATION.
IT'S SENIOR SENIORS DON'T DRIVE AT NIGHT.
AND IT'S THE SAFETY ISSUE AND THE LOCATION BECAUSE THE SAFETY ISSUE AND DRIVING THE MAJORITY, WHETHER THEY WORK OR NOT, WON'T GO ANYWHERE AT NIGHTTIME.
THEY'RE IN FOR THE DAY OR ABILITY OR ACCESSIBILITY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BROADER POPULATION, IT'S ABOUT THE SENIOR BROADER POPULATION, WHICH ARE AVAILABLE IN THE DAYTIME MORE THAN THEY WOULD BE OR CHOOSE TO BE AT NIGHT.
IF THEY HAVE A DRIVER, A CAREGIVER OR SOMEONE WHO COULD, MAYBE THEY GOT OFF AT FIVE, A HOME HEALTH AIDE PERSON, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SAY, CAN YOU DRIVE ME TO A MEETING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK TONIGHT OR FIVE O'CLOCK TONIGHT? BECAUSE THEY WORK FROM DAYTIME HOURS TO ASSIST THAT PERSON.
SO IN THE BROADER CONVERSATION, AND YOU WANT TO GET SENIORS,
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YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO EFFECT SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND TIME.NOT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A JOB.
'CAUSE MOST DON'T, WHETHER THEY'RE RETIRED OR JUST WEALTHY AND THEY CAN SIT AT THE HOUSE, BUT THEY WON'T COME OUT AT NIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO GIVE THE INFORMATION, NOT THE CITY COUNCIL.
PEOPLE DON'T CARE IF MARY'S DAY HOUSE COMES OR NOT.
SO AGAIN, THERE ARE THE FIVE DAYTIME MEETINGS, BUT THE BIG ONE AND THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS NOW ONLY TWO WEEKS OUT, THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOTIFYING PEOPLE BARELY A MONTH.
WHEN WE, WE TALKING ABOUT A FLYER, BARELY A MONTH.
PEOPLE THAT GET A FLYER, READ THE FLYER AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.
IF IT'S IMMEDIATE, IT SHOULD HAVE A BROADER OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WHETHER IT'S ON COMMERCIALS, WHETHER IT'S ON, UH, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT JUST NEEDS TO HAVE A, A OUTREACH THAT NOW WE KNOW WE CAN SAY, OH, IN A MONTH FROM NOW WE'RE ALL PLANNING TO GO.
WE CAN HAVE BUSES PICK PEOPLE UP AND TRANSPORT THEM AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS AND THEY COULD GET ON A BUS AND THE BUS CAN BRING THEM OVER HERE.
BUT THE WHOLE CONVERSATION HAS TO BE ABOUT, IF YOU WANT ENGAGEMENT, GO TO PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND THEY'RE NOT OUT AT NIGHT.
AND WE HAVE TO LIKE THOSE FIVE OTHER MEETINGS DURING THE DAY.
SO HOPEFULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE CAN DEFINITELY ATTEND.
IS THIS A COMMENT ABOUT THE MEETING ITSELF? ABSOLUTELY.
NOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH THIS PROJECT, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY SCOPE IS LIMITED TO THE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH FOR PERFECT.
SO YOU'RE NOT BUILDING, YOU'RE NOT OVER THERE LIFTING A HAMMER OR NO.
OR WORKING A, UH, A CONSTRUCTION SITE.
AND SO THE SURVEY, UM, IS TO KIND OF REVIEW THE PROJECT, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S REALLY TO START THE DISCUSSION AND COLLECT FEEDBACK ON MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE WANNA COLLECT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA JUST BECAUSE WE WANNA KNOW WHO WE ARE TALKING TO AND, AND BE EQUITABLE IN OUR APPROACH.
UH, WE'RE COLLECTING, UH, INFORMATION ON HOW PEOPLE, UM, USE THE CURRENT SENIOR CENTER AND PLAN TO USE THE FUTURE SENIOR CENTER, HOW PEOPLE GET THERE.
UM, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, LIKE THE, THE RESPONDENTS, IF THEY HAVE DISABILITIES AND IT, IT IS ANONYMOUS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING, UH, PEOPLE TO, UH, PROVIDE THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION UNLESS THEY WANT TO.
AND THEY WANNA BE ON A LIST FOR FUTURE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WE ARE ALSO OFFERING, UH, SOME GIFT CARDS.
UM, WE WILL BE RANDOMLY SELECTING SOME PARTICIPANTS, UH, TO WIN A $50 GIFT CARD.
UM, SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT A BROAD BREADTH OF LIKE, BREADTH OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT RELATE TO THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS AS WELL, UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, MULTIPLE CHOICE, UH, QUESTIONS MAY NOT, UH, BE CONDUCIVE TO PEOPLE THAT WANNA PROVIDE VERY SPECIFIC THOUGHTS ON THINGS.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION AS WELL.
SO AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT THEN, SO I BELIEVE ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS MENTIONED THAT THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN PURCHASED AND IT'S BEEN DECIDED THAT THIS IS WHERE THE NEW SENIOR CENTER IS GONNA BE.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT? CORRECT.
AND SO IT'D BE MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE SURVEY THEN THAT, ISN'T IT A LITTLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, CLOSING THE BARN DOOR AFTER THE YES.
THE COWS ARE GONE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, I MEAN, MAYBE I'M MISSING THE SURVEY AND, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INPUT AND FEEDBACK, BUT IT'S KIND OF ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'LL COME UP WITH AS OPPOSED TO PARTICIPATING? MM-HMM.
UM, WELL IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS IS THE SURVEY, THIS IS WHERE WE PUT OUR INPUT.
THE BUILDING HAS BEEN PURCHASED, SO THAT PART IS GONE.
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE PUT OUR INPUT, ALL OUR THOUGHTS, EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT AND WHY.
SO TO CONTINUE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M COMMENTING ON AT THIS POINT.
SO COULD YOU GIVE A, A MORE EXPANSIVE VIEW OF THE PROJECT? I MEAN, SO THESE ARE THE SERVICES, THIS IS THE BUILDING, THIS IS HOW YOU GAIN ACCESS.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE, THE OVERALL STRUCTURE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M GONNA TAKE A SURVEY ABOUT, UNLESS AS A PART OF THE SURVEY PROFILE, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE A WHOLE, THIS IS THE SOUP TO NUTS OF THE NEW
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SENIOR CENTER.WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO HOW DO WE GET THE SOUP TO NUTS OF THE SENIOR CENTER AS PLANNED RIGHT NOW? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? RIGHT.
I I, OH WAIT, I DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NOW IS THE TIME IN THIS SURVEY TO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT AND, AND IT IS IN THIS BUILDING THAT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.
THE, THERE'S OTHER FLOORS THAT ARE PROMISED TO OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS IN THIS CITY THAT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.
BUT NOW WE GET TO SAY WE WANT THE TOILETS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GET ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES TO GET OFF OF.
SO THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.
YOU GET ON HERE AND YOU TAKE THIS SURVEY, IN FACT DO IT TODAY AND IT'S DONE AND PUT ALL, THERE'S SPACES I'M SURE FOR ANY OTHER THOUGHTS.
AND YOU TYPE OUT WHAT YOU WANT IN THIS THING THAT ISN'T PART OF THE SURVEY THAT YOU THINK THEY MISSED IS, UM, AM I CORRECT? SO LET'S SAY I TAKE THE SURVEY TODAY.
AM I ALLOWED TO TAKE IT AGAIN? IF I THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE? IT IT, SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY, IT, IT'S VERY HARD TO LIMIT ONE SURVEY PER PERSON.
SO TECHNICALLY YOU COULD SUBMIT TWO SURVEYS AND WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THAT.
SO PUT WHAT YOU THINK IN TODAY AND THEN NEXT WEEK WHEN YOU THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE, PUT IN SOMETHING ELSE.
AND UP UNTIL WE HAVE AND HAVE THEM TAKE THE SURVEYS.
SO WE HAVE A BROAD, UM, UH, UM, POPULATION COHORT THAT WE, THAT THEY GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION OF WHAT TO PUT IN THIS SPACE AND LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT AND PUT EVERYTHING, UM, IN THIS SURVEY THAT WE'RE LOOKING THAT WE WOULD ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL DANDY, BUT GOING BACK, SO HOW DO I, HOW DO I LEARN ABOUT, HOW DO I, YOU GO TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS AND I THINK, SO YOU'RE MAYBE ASKING, UM, LIKE DRILLING IS LIKE, YOU UNDERSTAND THE BOTTOM FLOOR, BUT LIKE WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE INSIDE? CORRECT.
LIKE THIS BUILDING, WHEN WE GOT THIS BUILDING, LIKE THAT WAS WAY BEFORE MY TIME.
I KNOW WHEN WE GOT THE BUILDING, IT TURNED INTO THE SENIOR CENTER, BUT WE KIND OF BUILT THE SENIOR CENTER IN WHAT THE SPACE ALREADY LOOKED LIKE.
SO THE ROOMS WERE ALREADY MADE AND WE WERE LIKE, OH, THAT'S GONNA BE THIS ROOM WHERE THAT ROOM, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF ALREADY THE DESIGN.
I THINK THAT BUILDING, THIS IS WHERE THE SURVEY COMES IN.
IS THAT LIKE IT, I THINK IT USED TO HAVE A BUFFET.
THERE USED TO BE COLONIAL BUFFET WAS AT THE BOTTOM PART.
SO, SO ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING HAS LIKE A RESTAURANT PICTURE.
WELL THAT DEFINITELY MIGHT NOT WORK FOR A SENIOR CENTER, RIGHT? LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A FULL RESTAURANT.
SO JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT HAD IN THERE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT LIKE, NOT NECESSARILY KEEPING IT THE SAME.
SO LIKE IF WE SAY LIKE, OH YEAH, WE'RE NOT USING THAT RESTAURANT LIKE AREA, THEN PRETTY MUCH THEY WOULD JUST LIKE KIND OF, I GUESS CHANGE THE INSIDE.
SO THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THE BUILDING AS IN LIKE, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
BUT ANYTHING IN THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US IN THE SURVEY TO SAY LIKE, HEY, WE WANT A GYM THERE OR WE WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, WORKSHOPS OR WE WANT MEETING ROOMS, OR WE DEFINITELY SEE NUTRITION AS A THING AND WE NEED, YOU KNOW, A DOOR FOR THE DELIVERIES OR STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC TO COME TO, TO DO THE SURVEY AND TO THOSE MEETINGS.
SO THEN BASICALLY THEY GIVE THEIR INPUT AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AND SAY LIKE, OH, THE BUILDING HAS A RANDOM WALL THERE.
LET'S TAKE IT DOWN IN THAT GROUP WOULD THEN, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT DOWN AND MAKE WHATEVER ROOM OR SPACES WE NEED.
SO YOU'RE SAYING SOUP AND NUTS.
THERE'S NOT A TOILET, THERE'S JUST, WELL, THERE WE MOVE IN IS AND BASED UPON ALL OF THIS GREAT, GREAT FEEDBACK, THAT'S HOW THAT BUILDING WILL BE DESIGNED YOURSELF.
SO IT'S A BLANK SPACE RIGHT NOW? YES.
THERE'S WALLS, THERE'S RESTROOMS, IT WAS DIFFERENT USE, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA RIP UP THE TOILET.
SO IT'S A BLANK SPACE BASICALLY.
AND YOU THE COMMUNITY TO SAY WHAT WE SHOULD, HOW WE SHOULD FILL THAT BLANK SPACE.
LIKE WE KIND OF JUST MOVED INTO THIS FACILITY IN THE ROOMS. HOW THEY ARE IS HOW WE GET IT.
BUT THE, THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT, AT LEAST MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE'RE NOT USING WHATEVER ROOMS ARE THERE.
LIKE WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, AS A TEAM AND OUR COMMUNITY WILL KIND OF PUT THEIR INPUT AND THEN WE CAN DESIGN FROM THERE.
AND I THINK YOU'VE ACTUALLY SUMMARIZED IT VERY WELL, SO THANK YOU.
SORRY, I JUST WAS LIKE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT BILL'S GETTING AT.
SO DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE MEETING, A PHYSICAL COPY OF THAT SURVEY? UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING, UM, WE WANTED TO GET THE WORD OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE SURVEY IS NOT COMPLETED, UH, THE SURVEY'S COMPLETED, IT, IT IS JUST BEING PUT IN A DIFFERENT
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FORMAT SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE PAPER COPY.SO YOU SHOULD START SEEING THOSE SOON.
THERE'S, I THINK SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION WOULD'VE BEEN MORE TARGETED IF WE'D SEEN THE SURVEY PHYSICALLY HAD IT IN FRONT OF US AND WE COULD BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO CRITIQUE IT OR TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS.
THIS WAY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S SO NEBULOUS.
I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THAT SURVEY CONSISTS OF.
TAKE THE SURVEY AND YOU'LL KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.
TAKE THE SURVEY AND THAT'S WHY SURVEY SPREAD.
THE WORD THAT THE SURVEY IS, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS UP IN ANY PLACE YOU CAN, STARBUCKS BY YOUR HOUSE, WHATEVER, AND ASK PEOPLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY.
AND WE'LL BE, UM, ONCE THE PAPER SURVEYS COME IN, ALL OF OUR SENIOR CENTERS AND LIBRARIES WILL BE PLACES WHERE WE'LL HAVE THE PAPER SURVEYS.
UM, IRENE, DO YOU THINK ITS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD, UM, EMAIL US WHEN THOSE PAPER SURVEYS ARE AVAILABLE SO THAT IF WE WANT TO DO IT ON PAPER, WE COULD COME TO A SENIOR CENTER OR LIBRARY TO PICK ONE OF THOSE UP? YES.
SO WE'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU, FILL US AS SOON AS UM, THEY, THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.
ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS REGARDING THE MEETING ITSELF? THE DROP DID RESPONSE TIME.
SO WE GET THE SURVEY, PEOPLE RESPOND TO THE SURVEY, THE SURVEY RESPONSES ARE THEN TOLD PUBLICLY WHAT PEOPLE SAID IN THE SURVEY.
AND THEN FROM THAT DATE, WHEN DO PEOPLE MAKE CHANGES? FOR EXAMPLE, 62% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SURVEY SAID THEY WANT A SWIMMING POOL IN THERE AND THEN THE ARCHITECT GETS IN AND THEY SAY, WELL, PEOPLE WANT A SWIMMING POOL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN A POOL.
OR IS IT, WE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT, WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT.
UH, SO IN THE SURVEY IT LISTS DIFFERENT, UH, OPTIONS, UH, CONSIDERING WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AT THE SENIOR PROGRAM.
UH, BUT THEN WE DO GIVE OTHER PARTS OF THE SURVEY WHERE PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL RESPOND, UM, TO, TO THE USES THAT WE ALREADY SEE AT TYPICAL SENIOR CENTERS.
UM, SO, SO WE, WE THINK PEOPLE WILL COALESCE AROUND THAT, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE'RE OPEN TO OTHER FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE MAY HAVE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF AGAIN.
AND WITH THAT, HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT WE'LL ADJUST OR ADAPT TO THOSE RESPONSES TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE'LL IMPLEMENT WHAT THEY ASK FOR IN REAL TIME? YEAH, I THINK, WELL, WE STILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THOSE RESPONSES ARE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO, UM, LIKE WE HAVE A TEAM OF, OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE EVERY DAY WORKING IN THE SENIOR CENTER, UM, USING THE SWIMMING POOL EXAMPLE, IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAME UP, UM, WE WOULD JUST, WE, WE COULD NOT ACCOMMODATE THAT FOR MANY REASONS.
OR THINGS THAT ARE, ARE PERHAPS NOT IN LINE, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A SPACE THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE WHAT THOSE HIGH PRIORITIES ARE AND REALLY FOCUS ON MAKING, UM, LIKE WE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME AHA MOMENTS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, RIGHT? WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA FIGHT YET.
SO, UM, SO WE'LL REALLY BE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING, WHAT ARE PEOPLE THINKING AND WHAT ARE PEOPLE FEELING ABOUT THIS, THIS NEW SPACE AND HOW THEY WANT TO INTERACT WITH THE SPACE.
DO WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR THE REMODELING? UM, I BELIEVE THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, I, I BELIEVE IT, IT OUTLINES THE AVAILABLE FUNDING ALREADY, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THE CITY WILL BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
SO THE WEBSITE IS AT THE BOTTOM OF, OF THE FLYER AND, AND YOU CAN VISIT THERE.
IT'S, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T SEE THAT WITH IF, IF I MAY.
SO WHY IS THE SENIOR CENTER MOVING FROM HERE TO THERE? I DO NOT KNOW.
I WAS NOT PART OF THOSE POSITIONS.
THAT, THAT HAPPENED AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
UM, SO YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO TIME THIS BILL.
I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BILL FROM WAY BACK, I COULD BE WRONG.
THERE COULD BE CHEMO BRAIN WORKING HERE FROM GOLDSTEIN'S POINT OF VIEW, BUT COULD YOU SPEAK BALL? I'M, I BELIEVE, UH, BEFORE YOU EVEN WERE HERE, NORMA, I WAS JUST SAYING I MIGHT BE WRONG AS OF, UH, RESIDUAL CHEMO BRAIN RIGHT HERE, BUT I BELIEVE IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH EARTHQUAKE SAFETY, THIS BUILDING THAT THEY COULD NOT VALIDATE THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE DURING AN EARTHQUAKE.
SO, BUT THAT'S, I THINK THE ANSWER.
I MEAN, I'M VERY SORRY TO SEE US MOVE FROM THIS BUILDING, QUITE FRANKLY.
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IT COULD GO SOMEWHERE BIGGER, SOMEWHERE SMALLER.IT'LL BE CHALLENGING FOR YOU GUYS.
I'M SURE YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB FIGURING IT OUT.
HEIDI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT IN YOUR REPORT? I, UM, DO NOT AT THE MOMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT YOU AN UPDATE AS YOU GUYS HAD ASKED LAST, UM, MONTH ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, I THANK YOU NANCY FOR COMING IN AND YES, THANK YOU AND STUFF AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE'LL, UM, DEFINITELY, UM, KEEP EVERYONE IN THE LOOP AS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GEARING UP AND REALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, FIRST MEETING AND STUFF.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SO, UM, WE HAD A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE FROM THE, FROM RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT HEIDI MASAS, WHICH TODAY INCLUDED NANCY, UH, VELA NOR SO DO WE.
CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE, UM, THE REPORT.
ANYONE OPPOSED TO, UM, APPROVING, RECEIVING AND FILING THE REPORT? ANYONE ABSTAINING? OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES.
IT'S NOW TIME TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE HAVE NO PUBLIC SEEING NONE.
UH, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UH, NORMA, DO YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE? I HAVE TWO ANNOUNCE, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION.
I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIT INTO THE LAST.
UM, I'M WONDERING IF, UH, THERE'S ARE PEOPLE HERE ON THE COMMISSION WHO ARE FROM DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO? YES.
SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE SOME WAY OF DISCUSSING.
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ADVISING COUNCIL MEMBERS ON, UM, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ASK US TO ADVISE THEM ON ISSUES.
UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S A CONNECTION TO THE SENIOR CENTER HERE, UH, WITH THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE PLANNING FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE STANDING COMMITTEES, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THIS ON THE, ON OUR AGENDA.
THAT IS AN AGENDA ITEM, UM, THAT I WILL EMAIL IRENE TO, UM, PUT ON OUR NEXT AGENDA.
SO WE JUST CAN DISCUSS, UM, WITH EVERYBODY AND INCLUDING THE PUBLIC WITH THE COMMITTEES.
UH, NO, UM, MEET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MEET WITH COUNCIL, ADVOCATING WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE SENIOR BUILDING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UH, UH, NO, BUT I'M COMMENT ON THAT IT, IT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY OF LONG BEACH, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
I MEAN, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA SO WE COULD ALL DISCUSS IT AND PUT OUR COMMENTS TOWARDS THAT.
I, I'M JUST SAYING, IS THAT RIGHT? SENIORS ARE GONNA GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
SO JUST TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL PERSON FROM ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE, I JUST WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S JUST LIMITED TO ONE AND TWO.
SO WE, WE CANNOT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITHOUT IT BEING AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO WE WILL HAVE IT ON OUR NEXT AGENDA.
SO WHAT'S THE AGENDA ITEM? THE AGENDA ITEM IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO YOU DIDN'T LIMIT IT TO WHAT I DO.
UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO, NEVERMIND.
UH, I DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
UH, THERE IS ANOTHER BUDGET SITTING BUDGET MEETING IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THAT'S GONNA BE ON MONDAY, AUGUST 19TH AT 6:00 PM AT THE BILLIE JEAN KING LIBRARY, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN GOING TO THAT.
UM, AND THEN COMMISSIONER HINES, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I'M NOT SURE I DO, BUT, UM,
UH, WE'LL MEET WITH KEN MCDONALD AS SOON AS THE, UH, FORMALLY COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
WE'LL, UM, HAVE A DATE AND TIME FOR HIM.
HE'S, UH, WE HAD A COUPLE, BUT WE HAD TO CANCEL THEM.
SO HE'S GONNA MEET WITH US OUR, WITH OUR LAST YEAR'S PROPOSED, UH, SUGGESTIONS FOR LIKE TRANSPORTATION FOR FREE.
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SO WE'LL MEET ME, WE'LL BE MEETING SOON WITH, UH, PRESIDENT, UM, KIM MCDONALD OF THE LONG BEACH TRANSIT.CAN YOU, UH, PLEASE SEND THAT LITTLE, UM, YOUR LITTLE STATEMENT? CAN YOU JUST EMAIL THAT TO IRENE? I WILL.
SO SHE CAN PUT IT IN OUR MINUTES.
UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER HERE? YES.
UH, I WOULD JUST WANT TO SHARE TWO THINGS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A, A CITY, OUR CITY AUDITOR HAS SOMETHING OUT ON A FRAUD HOTLINE.
THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.
AND, UH, AND, UH, JUST AN 800 NUMBER AND I'M GONNA GIVE THIS TO IRENE AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE COPIES OF THE NEXT MEETING OR SOMETHING.
AND ANOTHER THING, UH, IT'S A MEDICALLY A DIRECTIVE OF SERVICES THAT MOST PEOPLE KEEP ON THEIR REFRIGERATOR IN CASE, UH, MEDICAL HELP IS NEEDED.
AND THEY COME AND IT'S A TWO PAGE FORM.
ACTUALLY, IT'S A ONE PAGE FORM, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT PRINTED THAT PRINTS BOTH SIDES.
IS IT THE VIAL OF SIDE? IT'S AVAILABLE AND IT TELLS WHAT YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT.
UH, UH, AND THE EMT GROUP WILL COME AND THEY'LL GO ON THE REFRIGERATOR WHERE YOU'LL KEEP THIS UP THERE AND IT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY A DOCTOR.
AND MANY DOCTORS HAVE IT IN THEIR OFFICE, OF COURSE.
AND IT SAYS IF YOU WANT EMERGENCY HELP OR IF YOU WANT THEM TO JUST LEAVE YOU ALONE AND LET YOU DIE NATURALLY OR WHATEVER.
WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT PAPER? YES.
AND I OBVIOUSLY HAVE ONE ON MY REFRIGERATOR, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH ALL OF YOU.
IT'S CALLED, IT'S CALLED PHYSICIAN ORDERS FOR LIFE SUSTAINING TREATMENT.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE.
WHAT'D YOU GET THIS? UH, I'VE HAD IT FOR YEARS.
I'VE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYBE ANNOUNCEMENT.
HOW DO WE ASK, DO WE STILL, BECAUSE OF THE, DO WE STILL GO TO SOMEBODY IF WE HAVE A GUEST SPEAKER THAT WE WANT, DO WE STILL, OKAY.
WE DO THAT SAME THING AND THEN THEY'RE ON THE THING AND THEN THAT'S HOW THE THING GOES.
I MADE MICHELLE, SO BACK TO YOU.
I'LL RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER YET.
UH, I I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY HAS PARTICIPATED SO FAR IN THE BUDGET HEARINGS.
I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IT'S ANYONE PARTICIPATED IN THE BUDGET ANNOUNCEMENTS.
THIS IS FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY.
SO IF YOU WANT TO ASK ANYBODY AFTER THE MEETING, YOU COULD ASK PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR BUSINESS.
I I MEAN, IT WAS NOT ON OUR BUSINESS.
BE A PLACE FOR, FOR THESE, FOR THE SHARING OF INFORMATION.
WE WERE ASKED TO GO TO THE BUDGET HEARINGS.
YEAH, I THINK SHE ANNOUNCED THEM.
AND SO IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT STUFF, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THE BUDGET HEARINGS.
I CAN TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS ABSOLUTELY.
ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I WANNA KNOW.
BUT IT WON'T BE, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL MEETING BUSINESS.
I I AM ASKING WHICH OF US HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO GO TO THE BUDGET HEARING? I HAVE.
NO, AND I CAN ASK YOU LATER WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS, BUT I HAVE, I CAN'T GO ASK EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
THEY GO AFTER THE MEETING THAT PEOPLE, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
SO LIKE, IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE GONNA ASK THEM, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE, OR IF YOU HAD A QUESTION, THEN YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS IT.
NO, I'M ASKING IT IN PUBLIC IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, SO IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, I'M JUST ASKING IN FOR HOW, WHO'S GONE TO THE MEETINGS.
I'M NOT ASKING WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT THEY SAID OR WHAT THEY DID.
SO LIKE ANNOUNCEMENTS WOULD JUST BE LIKE ANNOUNCING THE, THE BUDGET HEARING OR DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, LIKE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ASKING LIKE, OH YES, I'VE GONE, OR NO, I'VE GONE, IT'S STILL CONSIDERED A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE AREN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE IT'S MORE AND MORE THAT EACH WEEK.
AND I DON'T, I I, I DON'T APPROVE, I DON'T WANNA SERVE ON A COMMISSION THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A YEAR JUST FOR THIS PART.
I REMEMBER BILL WENT ON FOREVER AND VERY INTELLIGENTLY AND ARTICULATELY OVER A YEAR AGO SAYING, OKAY, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A SENIOR, WE'RE MOVING.
CAN WE AS THE COMMISSION, WE'VE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR FOR GOD'S SAKE.
AND, AND YOU ARE RIGHT, NORMA.
I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME I COME BACK, I'VE BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE.
AND NOW WHEN I COME BACK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALMOST AS IF THERE'S, FIRST OF ALL, WHO IS THIS? THEY,
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WHO IS THEY QUOTE UNQUOTE.AND I FEEL LIKE YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE OUR, OUR, UM, INFLUENCE IS BEING REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY.
I SEE IT AND IT'S REALLY STRINGENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO OR WHO TO EVEN TALK TO SPECIFICALLY TO SAY, WHY ARE YOU MAKING THESE DECISIONS? WELL, HOW HAVE YOU THOUGHT? I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS THIS, SO I'M SORRY, BUT I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY IT.
IT'S TURNING INTO A DISCUSSION.
SO IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH, THEN THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU CAN DISCUSS AND THEN, UM, SO I CAN, I CAN EMAIL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO.
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY, YOU CAN EMAIL IRENE, WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
THEN YOU CAN ASK THEM IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
I'M GONNA ADJOURN THE MEETING.
WELL, WE NOT READY TO ADJOURN THE MEETING YET.
DID YOU HAVE A, DID YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A PART OF YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE BUDGET MEETING ON MONDAY.
UM, NO, AND I'VE COMPLETELY, I WAS SO ENTHRALLED IN THE CONVERSATION.
OKAY, SO OH YEAH, I, IT WAS FROM COMMISSIONER HIN, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT.
SO ARE WE ALLOWED TO MEET WITH PERSONS IN THE COMMUNITY? SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SHE'S SUGGESTING OR TELLING OUR GROUP HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT, CEO OF LONG BEACH TRANSIT TO CONDUCT WHEN WE HAVE A FIVE POINT AGENDA THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN SHOWN AND APPROVED BY THIS GROUP.
SO WE CAN, UM, PROCEED WITH THAT.
I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL, AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS YOU ARE STAYING WITHIN THE ROBERTS ROOM SIDELINES, THEN YES, YOU CAN.
GOING BACK TO THAT MEETING I JUST ADDED, CAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMISSION JOIN US OTHER THAN OUR, OTHER THAN OUR COMMITTEE? IT COULD YOU GUYS, EVERYBODY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE COMMITTEES.
AS LONG AS WE'RE STAYING WITHIN THE ROBERTS RULES.
SO THREE, THREE OR LESS, THREE OR LESS COMMISSIONERS CAN GO TO IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
AND THEN I NEED A SECOND TO, UH, OF THE, THAT.
UM, WHO WAS THE SECOND? I'M SORRY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON, UM,
EVERYONE, UH, IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING THE MEETING? SAY AYE.
ANYONE OPPOSED? ANYONE ABSTAIN? OKAY, SO THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 10:56 AM ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 14TH.