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YOU DO THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIR MURRAY HERE.DO YOU HAVE A COURT? VERY GOOD.
AND I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
SECOND, I'LL, UH, THE PUBLIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
PASSES TO THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA.
UH, MR. MCCRAY, YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE, UH, YEAH.
SO MOVE THAT WE REVIEW AND, UH, LOOK AT RECOMMENDATIONS.
LET'S START OUR DISCUSSION AND START LOOKING THROUGH.
UH, FIRST UP IS, UH, APPROVING THE MINUTES.
UH, PRETTY PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THE MINUTES FROM THE, UH, AUGUST MEETING.
UM, ANY CHANGES OR ADJUSTMENTS? JUST WORK WITH CAMERON TO, UH, TO GO THROUGH THERE.
UH, SECOND UP WILL BE A RECEIVE AND FILE OF A PRESENTATION ON THE MARINA GREEN PARKING LOT.
UH, WE HAD THIS LAST YEAR, UH, DJ KELLY CAME IN, GAVE US A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF, HEY, THIS IS, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING.
UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME, UH, UM, DESIGN ELEMENTS TO WORK THROUGH.
THEY'RE DONE WITH THOSE DESIGN ELEMENT WORK THROUGHS, AND NOW THEY'RE READY TO PRESENT THE HUNDRED PERCENT SCALE DRAWING OF THE MAR GREEN PARKING LOT SHORELINE.
UH, SO THAT'LL BE DJ KELLY, UH, ON BEHALF OF PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? CAN WE GET THAT REPORT AS A PART OF OUR PACKET? YES.
UH, HOPEFULLY HE WILL HAVE THAT TO US BY NOON TOMORROW.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S ALL, UH, WHAT IS IT? UH, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLANT LIFE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I KNOW WE'VE ALWAYS STATED THAT IT HAS TO BE, WELL, THE MARINA CREEK KIND OF THE, THE AREA WHERE THE, UH, WE HOLD FESTIVALS AND YEAH.
SO WE'RE GOING FROM, UH, THE TURNABOUT RIGHT ON SHORELINE VILLAGE DRIVE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, UH, UM, GG AND, UH, THE D SEVEN RESTAURANT.
THE BOAT OWNER SIDE COMPLETELY REDO THE PUBLIC SIDE.
WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY PARKING SPACES.
IT'S A, IT'S A NET ZERO, YOU KNOW, UH, IMPACT, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE SIX OR 10 EV STATIONS CHARGERS DOWN TOWARDS, UH, THE, THE, UH, PAST LINDEN ON THE EASTERN ON THE QUA.
SO YOU CAN USE THEM ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AS WELL AS ON THE BOAT OVER SIDE.
AND THEN, UH, WHERE THE, THE RESTROOM GAUCHO, GAUCHO BEACH AND THE END OF THE BIKE PATH IS RIGHT THERE.
UH, THEY'RE CREATING A TURNABOUT, SO IT'S GONNA BE MUCH EASIER TO COME IN AND COME BACK OUT ON THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC ACCESS SIDE.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A BIG ADDITION OR SUBTRACTION OR CHANGE WITH LANDSCAPING.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN A COUPLE BIO, NOT SWES, BUT UH, UH, CATCH BASINS.
BUT NOTHING WHICH WOULD BE GOOD.
'CAUSE THAT AREA THEY REALLY USED FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT FOOD TRUCK ZONE DURING GRAND PRIX AND, AND GAY PRIDE, THAT'S A REAL AREA.
SO ONCE WE GET THE PACKET, LET'S ALL TRY TO GO OUT THERE AND WALK IT.
IT'S, UH, UH, LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.
UH, WE'RE REDOING A LOT OF OUR BEACH PARKING LOTS BE PUBLIC WORKS.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE REDOS, UH, TOTALLY, UH, TOTALLY GRIND DOWN.
OVERLAY NEW STRIPING EVERYTHING.
AND IT NEEDS IT, SOME OF THAT LEVELING WHERE IT, IT FLOODS A LITTLE BIT ALONG THERE.
AND THE TREE ROOFS WE'RE HITTING, UH, TRIP HAZARDS, SO, WELL, THEY HAVE CAMERAS THAT ALL I, WHAT WORRIES ME IS WHEN YOU HAVE ELECTRIC CHARGING, UM, THOSE AROUND UPS ARE CHARGERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IF IT'S NOT ON PROPERTY, THEY GET STOLEN AND IT'S ALL COPPER.
I MEAN, THEY JUST, THEY, THEY STEAL COPPER AND THEY WILL TEAR UP TESLA CHARGING STATIONS, ANY OF THE CHARGING STATIONS.
WILL WE HAVE A CA CAMERA UP ANYWHERE THAT WE'RE REALLY
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LUCKY AT THAT LOCATION WHERE IT'S RIGHT BY GG, THE FUEL DOCK.SO IT'S BRACKETED BY CAMERAS ON ON IT IS, OKAY.
IT'D BE GOOD TO BRING UP AT OUR, UH, GOOD TO BRING UP AT THE MEETING.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KNOW BRUCE OF MY MEETING YESTERDAY WAS IMPACTED WITH, UH, PARKS AND REC, HAVING THEIR COPPER STOLEN FROM THEIR RIGHT.
COMMUNICATION, SO IT OH MY GOSH.
PRECIOUS METALS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YEAH.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE MARINA GREEN? NO.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THEN THE NEXT, UH, WITH THE PRESENTATION ON THE BLUFF PARKS.
AND THIS WILL BE A, A, A PRESENTATION FROM KELLY OR ARMSTRONG OR, UH, BEACH COMMAND SUPERINTENDENT.
UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A STANDARD BEFORE, AFTER JUST KIND OF, UH, LOOKING AT, HEY, THIS IS WHERE IT WAS.
UH, IT'S A UPDATE FROM HIS PRESENTATION FROM LAST YEAR AS WELL.
AND THIS IS WHERE IT'S NOW IS NOW.
AND ALSO HE'LL BE ABLE TO UPDATE US ON THE STATUS OF OUR BLUFF PARK MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE, UH, VIA TITLE INFLUENCE.
AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE TIKTOK CHALLENGE OF BIKES OFF THE BLUFF.
OH, NO, YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING.
UH, UM, THEY'RE GOOD THROWING THEM OR JUMPING, JUMPING WHAT THEY CAN GET.
THEY CAN GET A LOT OF AIR AS THEY COME ACROSS, BUT THEY STILL LAND ON OUR BLUFF.
WE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO DISCOURAGE THAT.
I KNOW TWO KIDS AREN'T ON TIKTOK.
YOU REALLY NEED TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM.
LET ME ASK MY KIDS, WHAT PART OF THE BLUFF IS THIS HAPPENING? RIGHT THERE BY CHERRY.
LAST YEAR WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE LITTLE REMOTES THAT WERE YES.
DOWN AND, AND TEARING UP THE DIRT.
I, I THINK OUR BLUFFS ARE INCREDIBLE.
THEY'RE AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE.
AND THEN, UH, CAN I ASK SOMETHING ABOUT BLUFF PARK? SO HALF OF BLUFF PARK SPECIFICALLY, NOT THE RESIDENTS, IS THIRD DISTRICT UP TO THE LONE SAILOR, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IS THERE ANYTHING GOING ON THAT I I AM, WE AREN'T REALLY AWARE, SO THIS IS GOOD FOR ME TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, THE PARK, THE PARK UP ON THE, UP ON THE STREET OFF OF OCEAN JASON TO OCEAN.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVATION UP THERE.
EVERY TIME I SEE IT, YOU HAVE A LOT OF VENDORS UP THERE.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON ELECTRIC BIKES RIDING ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND JUSTIN RUN, DONE HIS ONE MAN CAMPAIGN ON GO LONG BEACH, AND HE'S PROUD THAT HE GOT THAT SPEED BUMP PUT IN THERE AND THE
UM, AND THEN HE'S EVERY DAY REPORTS THE GRAFFITI AND YEAH.
UM, BUT FOR YOU IT'S THE, SO THE BLUFF AT 36 PLACE.
THAT'S THE, THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THAT.
AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO DO IS, UH, WE, UH, CONTRACT OUT WITH TITLE INFLUENCE MM-HMM.
THE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT PUT IT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2015 WAS ONLY FOR A CERTAIN SECTION OF THE BLUFF.
SO WHAT WE'VE ASKED WITH THE SHOCK CREEK.
SO WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO IS TAKE THAT BUILD OUT UPDATE.
SO WE, WE HAVE A PLAN FOR ALL THE WAY FROM, UH, BIXBY PARK ANNEX ALL THE WAY TO 36TH PLACE.
THAT'S THE AREA OF OUR CONTROL.
SO WE'LL BE UTILIZING, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM, I BELIEVE WE'LL BE DONE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A DRAFT BY THE END OF THE MONTH, AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO IMPLEMENT THAT GREAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN AS A MAT 'CAUSE AND, AND THEN THERE WAS THAT KIND OF, THAT GAP OF SPACE THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFUSION FACTOR ON ABOUT YES.
WHOSE JURISDICTION IT WAS UNDER.
AND IT'S FROM RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONDOS ON THE EAST.
AND IT'S A PROBLEMATIC AREA BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DRAINAGE STUFF FROM THE CONDOS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME PIPES THAT COME THROUGH AND FLOOD THAT AREA.
AND THEN SOME, WELL-MEANING CITIZENS HAVE PUT SOME NON-NATIVE, UH, PLANTS IN THERE.
UM, SO THAT AREA IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE ATTENTION AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE BEFORE IT REALLY GETS UP TO SPEED.
BUT THE GROWTH FACTOR OF IT, WHEN WE WALKED OUT AND LOOKED, I MEAN, IT TAKES TIME FOR IT TO GROW.
UM, YET THE PLAN OF IT IS GONNA BE WONDERFUL ONCE IT'S ALL GROWN IN.
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IF I WALK THAT EVERY DAY, YOU'LL BE IMPRESSED BY UPDATE.AND WHEN WILL THAT COME? JUST SO I CAN PUT A DATE ON MY OH, THE, UH, THE UPDATE.
OH, FOR THE MAINTENANCE, UH, THE MAINTEN.
OR THE TITLE INFLUENCE REPORT.
WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A DRAFT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
UH, BUT I WOULD EXPECT A COMPLETED DOCUMENT SOMETIME THIS FALL.
I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN THAT DRAFT.
BUT, BUT YOU DID ASK IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES UP ON THE BLUFF UP THERE IN YOUR SECTION.
WE HAVE PEOPLE RIDING ELECTRIC BIKES ON THE GRASS UP THERE GOING 30 MILES AN HOUR AND THEY'RE JUST TEARING UP THE GRASS, NUMBER ONE.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT FAMILIES UP THERE.
YOU'VE GOT, WE HAD ONE MAN, HE HAD HIS TWO YOUNG SONS ON ELECTRIC BIKES, PLUS HIMSELF GOING DOWN ON THE GRASS, UP ON THE BLUFF UP THERE.
WE HAVE A, THEY DON'T HAVE THE LAW YET, BUT THEY HAVE, UH, CHANGED IN SAN DIEGO, JUST GOT PASSED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT THEY'RE DOING A TEST ON ELECTRIC, UH, BIKES AND ELECTRIC, UH, UM, SCOOTERS.
UM, HAVE TO HAVE HELMETS, HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND ANYTHING THAT'S OVER, I BELIEVE 15 MILES AN HOUR HAS TO HAVE A LICENSE PLATE.
SO THIS, IT'S A TEST FACTOR, BUT I THINK IF THAT GOES, WE NEED TO WATCH THAT CLOSELY BECAUSE IT'S NOT IF IT'S WHEN IN THE END.
I'M GONNA LOOK IT UP RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN SAY IT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M DONE WITH UPS, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF MY, ONE OF MY CHALLENGES IS TO SEEK LEGISLATION.
UH, THE KIDS GO UP AND DOWN MY STREET IN LONG BEACH STATE THAT'S 40 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE STREET.
THESE GUYS ARE 40 MILES AN HOUR AND THEY GO ON GROUPS OF 10 AND 15 AND IT'S, UH, THEY'RE JUST GONNA DIE.
I DON'T, THE ME, I'M A MEOW GUY.
WHEN I DRIVE IN MY TRUCK, YOU KICK MY TRUCK, THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER DEVIL SIDE OF BRUCE, BUT I'M A MELLOW GUY.
BUT SOMEONE'S GONNA DIE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE HELMETS ON.
AND THEY'RE RACING AROUND WITH PEOPLE ON THE BACK OF THEIR SEATS.
AND IT'S JUST, UH, I'LL GET YOU THE, I'LL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION.
IF YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, I'LL PULL UP THE INFORMATION AND SEND YOU THE INFORMATION ON THAT, UH, LEGISLATION.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MINI BIKES ON YOUR AREA? NO.
AND THAT, OH NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST ELECTRIC.
THE PEDAL BIKES, BECAUSE THEY'RE A PEDAL, IT'S CONSIDERED A BICYCLE WITH ELECTRIC ENHANCEMENT.
IT'S NOT 'CAUSE THEY DON'T PEDAL.
IT'S CONSTANT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND THEN THEY, YEAH, THEY SOUP 'EM UP.
PUT A BIKINI ON THE HANDLEBARS AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK ABOUT THE ROAD RASH.
SO, ANYWAYS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT ONE.
I'LL GET YOU THE INFORMATION ON THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ON THE BLUFFS? OKAY.
SLIP FEE INCREASE BACK FROM THE ANNUAL, UH, IT IS THE USUAL, UH, UH, 2% MINIMUM, UH, OCTOBER 1ST OF EACH YEAR.
UH, THAT'LL BEATE AND GO FROM THERE.
UH, AS NORMAL, UH, WE TRY TO WORK OUR BUDGET AND OUR FINANCIALS TO KEEP IT AT THAT 2% MINIMUM.
UH, IF THINGS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR YEAR JUST DON'T BOUNCE OUT.
IF, IF WE SEE ESCALATING COSTS, WE DO HAVE TO INCREASE IT MORE TO MAINTAIN OUR DEBT SERVICE RATIO.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, UH, 2% IS THE NUMBER FOR OCTO, UH, FOR FY 2025.
UH, FY 26 MAY A DIFFERENT STORY.
UH, JUST KIND OF PREPPING YOU.
NOW, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME THINGS HIT OUR Y 25 BUDGET THAT ARE COST ESCALATORS.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE GO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION OVER MORE THAN THE 2%.
UM, BRIAN, HAVE YOU BEEN BENCHMARKING WITH OTHER MARINAS AND LOOKING AT RATES? I MEAN, I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED LATELY.
UH, THERE HAS BEEN LIKE A, A MARKET SURVEY THAT WAS DONE.
AND WE ARE, WE ARE ON THE LOWER, LOWER SIDE OF IT.
I THINK, WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO PUT IN A, A JUST A QUICK LOOK MATRIX ABOUT NEIGHBORING MARINAS AND RATES AND HAVE THAT AS A PART OF OUR PACKET SMARTS, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
UM, WHILE WE ARE STAYING COMPETITIVE, WE ARE STARTING TO LEVEL OUT WITH OUR COMPETITION.
IT'S WHAT, THE THING ABOUT IT IS, THE SURROUNDING MAR MARINAS ARE STARTING TO, UH, ELEVATE THEIR PRICES AS WELL.
'CAUSE DANA POINT DID THAT WHOLE 70%, 60%.
BUT WELL, AND SOME OF THAT, AND I THINK THAT BRIAN COULD KIND OF INCLUDE THAT WITH
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HIS REPORT.OUR BASE INDICATORS ARE BASICALLY BEEN IN
UM, I DID NOTICE THAT IN THE YACHT CLUB PUBLICATION FOR THIS MONTH, THAT THERE WAS AN ARTICLE DOING SOME COMPARISONS.
SO, AND IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT, HOW THEY PUT THEIR, THEIR FOCUS.
UH, QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UH, I JUST WONDER WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WHEN THE, UH, THE L MONIES GO AWAY AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY? 'CAUSE THIS IS THE MONEY THAT WE DRAW FROM.
UM, AND WHEN THE TIDELAND FUNDS GO AWAY, UH, WHAT HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GETTING LESS AND LESS AND LESS.
UM, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE MORE MONEY DROPPED INTO THIS AREA.
SO THE MARINA FUND IS A SUB FUND OF THE TITLES, RIGHT? WE ARE A REVENUE GENERATING OPERATION.
UH, IF YOU TAKE OUR FOOTPRINT, YOU HAVE, LET'S JUST BREAK OUT OUR FOOTPRINT.
OUS BAY SHORELINE RAINBOW MARINA.
ARE MARINAS PROPER? EVERYTHING WITH DOCKS, THAT'S MARINA FOOT, NAPLES ISLAND, THE WALLS, THE, THE DOCKS THERE.
THE BEACH IS TIDES, UH, RAINBOW HARBOR, NOT RAINBOW MARINA.
UH, YOU KNOW THE BIRD CAGE WHERE THE ELEVATOR IS? YES.
THAT'S WHERE THE MARINA FUND ENDS.
AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS TIDELANDS FUND.
SO THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE MARINA FUND, WHERE REVENUE GENERATING AND WE CAN SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS IN PERPETUITY AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN OUR OCCUPANCY.
IT'S THE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE TIDELAND, SOLELY THE BEACHFRONT, RAINBOW HARBOR AND NAPLES ISLAND THAT ARE AREAS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE A, ARE GOING TO SEE A, AN EFFECT BASED ON, ON TITLE'S.
I, I MET WITH THE MAYOR AND, AND HIS CHIEF OF STAFF AND WE WERE JUST, JUST TALKING AS BRUCE MCCREA CITIZEN, NOT AS A COMMISSIONER.
UM, AND I, I BROUGHT UP THE AMOUNT OF 500,000 THAT WE GET FROM THE COUNTY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, SUPPORTING THE CLEANUPS OF THE BEACHES.
AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT COSTS AFTER A STORM.
YET THE COUNTY HAS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND NO ONE'S REALLY EVER GONE UP TO JANE OR JAN, JANICE HAHN AND STATED LET'S UP THAT, BECAUSE ALL THE CITIES, WHY GO AFTER THE CITY? BECAUSE THE CITIES DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT THE COUNTY HAS THE MONEY AND THE COUNTY REPRESENTS ALL THOSE CITIES ALONG THAT, THAT TRACK AND SAY, WE NEED 5.2 OR WE NEED $6 MILLION FROM YOU A YEAR JUST TO OFFSET THE TIDELAND FUND THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO MAINTENANCE, HAVE IT DIRECTED DIRECTLY TO MAINTENANCE OF THE BEACHES.
NOT SO MUCH NAPLES ISLAND, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BEACHES.
BECAUSE IF THAT GOES AWAY, I WOULD HATE TO SEE A, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA SAY TIN CAN BEACH.
WE REMEMBER TIN CAN BEACH GROWING UP CAN BEACH.
I MEAN IT'S JUST, YOU HAD TO WEAR SHOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE WATER BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET CUT.
THAT'S WHEN IT WAS FASHIONABLE TO BE HOMELESS.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST, YEAH, IT WAS TOO.
IT WAS JUST SURFERS OUT THERE.
SO JUST A THOUGHT THAT IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP AND PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, THAT WE REQUEST THAT FROM THE CITY OR IF YOU REQUEST IT FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND, AND THAT WHILE WE HAVE THAT WE REVIEW HERE TOO, BUT IT'S JUST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR US.
SO I HAVE TALKED WITH SUPERVISOR HAN'S OFFICE ABOUT HAVING CITIES, UPPER CITIES BEING, UM, RESPONSIBLE AND PAYING TOWARDS ALL THE CLEANUPS THAT WE'VE DONE.
THAT WAS PART OF POLICY THAT I PUSHED OUT LAST YEAR.
HAVING TO DO WITH SEWAGE SPILLS.
SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, I'M TALKING WITH ERIC.
IT'S THE WASTE THE POUNDS PER OH TMDL.
DLI HAVE TOO MANY ACRONYMS. I'VE LEARNING LIKE WASTE, WASTE TML, TRYING MAXIMUM TOTAL MAXIMUM DATA.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M WORKING WITH ERIC ON, JUST SO YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT WHAT THE EXPECTANCY IS FOR THE TMDL AND THEN WE CAN PUSH IT DOWN.
OR WE NEED THAT UPDATED BEFORE WE START ASKING FOR OUR FUNDS DURING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.
DURING YOUR TOWN HALL MEETING, YOU MADE REFERENCE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING BY THE WAY,
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YOU HAVE VISIBILITY AS THE PERCENTAGE OF, UM, GARBAGE THAT'S ON OUR BEACH AND, AND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.UH, AND WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME OF THAT BEFORE.
UM, SO THE, IT WAS NEWS THAT YOU HAVE THAT, WELL, THAT'S BEING WORKED ON FOR THE DATA WE NEED TO GIVE TO OCEAN CLEANUP FOR THE TRASH INTERCEPTOR.
UM, BUT IT'S STILL BEING, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT TO JUST, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING OF GREAT INTEREST TO US.
SO PLEASE KEEP US IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SENDING OVER.
AND IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT THAT WE COULD PUT IN OUR PACKET, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE A PART OF THE MANAGER'S REPORT WHEN, UM, KELLY GIVES HIS, IF WE HAD SOME VISIBILITY ON THAT.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR SLIP FEE INCREASE? NO MA'AM.
WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, DOUG'S OFFICE.
UM, WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT AND HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION ON THIS.
OH, HEY, YOU CANNOT DO WAKE SURFING IN THIS SPACE.
WELL, I THINK IT'S BIGGER THAN WAKE SURFING.
OUR CONCERNS ARE WHEN THE ACCESS TO COLORADO LAGOON OPENS UP, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MODIFY SOME OF THE GUIDELINES.
WE'RE GONNA, UM, AND THERE, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE QUESTIONING IT.
SO WE WANNA TOUCH THAT FOR SURE.
WE DON'T WANNA EXCLUDE ANYONE, BUT WE WANNA THINK ABOUT GUIDELINES.
AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T VISITED THE RULES FOR MARINE STADIUM SINCE 2010.
SO I THINK IT WARRANTS A REVISIT.
HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO JUST CAUTION THERE ARE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS BAN THERE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AND UNDERSTANDING THOSE.
UM, AND THEN THAT, THAT'S ALSO INFORMING THE PUBLIC.
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO OPPORTUNITIES WITH THAT OPENING UP.
SO CAN I ASK WHAT OPPORTUNITY WE NEED? WE NEED TO, WELL THEN WANNA TAKE THEIR KAYAKS BACK THROUGH.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT A THROUGH SPACE.
IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE OPEN FOR KAYAKING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE FOLKS GONNA NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
IT'S, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND IT AND, AND VIEW ON THE LAND BASED SIDE.
BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, THE KAYAK CAN'T DO STUFF.
KAYAK OR PADDLE OR SWIM OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS BETWEEN THE TWO SPACES.
UH, BECAUSE FIRST AND FOREMOST THERE'S NO SWIMMING IN STADIUM.
WELL, AND, AND TO DIVE DOWN UNDER THERE'S GONNA NEED A REALLY DEEP BREATH.
I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE LITERALLY, I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
BUT MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE THINKING IT'S, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS THINK IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE, I MEAN, I'VE GOTTEN CALLS, JOE'S GOTTEN CALLS IN THE SENSE OF GOD, IF THEY'RE HAVING SKI THINGS AND I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO KAYAK.
I SAYS, WOW, WE DON'T KAYAK THERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD SO BASE A BASE RULE OF MARINE STADIUM WEST IS NO SWIMMING IN RAIN STADIUM.
ONCE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE TO DO IT.
THERE'S NO PADDLE SPORTS OR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF, UH, A PERMIT FROM THE DIRECTOR, WHICH ALLOWS ROWING SPORTS RIGHT IN THERE.
AND, AND HOW WE DID, UH, MADE THE ONE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL ROWERS.
SO, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT WAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC AWARE OF THE LIMITATIONS.
AND SO THERE'S NO MISCONCEPTIONS OUT THERE.
DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, COUNCILWOMAN? I THINK JUST THE UPDATE COMING FROM, FROM YOU IN YOUR, IN YOUR MESSAGE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S WAKE SURFING, I THINK.
NOT WAKE BOARDING, IT'S WAKE SURFING WHERE IT'S WAKE, YOU KNOW, LOWERED.
UM, AND HAVING THE MARINE DEPARTMENT LOOK AT WHAT WILL THAT DO AGAIN, WE'RE 2028, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF OUR, OUR OLYMPIC OUR OLYMPIC GOALS.
WHAT IS THAT DOING TO THE MARINA ITSELF? UM, IT'D JUST BE NICE TO KNOW BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOUR TIMES WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE AND, UH, NEXT TIME I'LL BRING MY MOVIE CAMERA BECAUSE THERE'S NO SAND, THERE'S NO SAND ANYMORE.
THOSE, THOSE LITTLE, LITTLE WAKES COME IN AND THEY'RE TWO AND A HALF, THREE FEET.
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UH, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.IT'S JUST LIKE A LITTLE WAVE COMING IN, TAKING OUT ONE SAND'S THERE.
SO AGAIN, I JUST HAVE TO CAUTION THIS BODY IS TO SAY THAT THIS IS A RECREATIONAL ON A WATER RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO MITIGATE OR BAN IT IN MARINE STADIUM.
'CAUSE MARINE STADIUM IS THE PURPOSES OF MARINE STADIUM IS TO PROMOTE ON WATER RECREATION.
WE MAY NEED TO DO LIKE FOR THE ROWERS AND MAKE PARTICULAR HOURS FOR PARTICULAR SPORTS BECAUSE THE LITTLE BOATS THAT WATER SKI ARE JUST GETTING FLOODED.
AND IT, AND IF THERE'S LITTLE BOATS OUT THERE, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE WHEN THOSE BIG MONSTERS COME IN.
UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE IT INCLUSIVE.
UM, BUT LET'S BE INCLUSIVE BUT SMART.
AND SO MAYBE IT IS AN HOURS THING.
UM, THERE'S OPTIONS FOUR IN THE MORNING TILL SIX IN THE MORNING.
YOU KNOW, I, I GOTTA ASK ANOTHER THING BECAUSE GOING IN TO THE MARINE TO THAT AREA, UM, DURING THE, WE WERE BOTH OUT ON THE BOAT FOR THE SWIM, UH, AND THE SWIMMERS WENT THROUGH, UM, DIESEL, UH, BY, BECAUSE THE TRUCK OH, THAT'S, YEAH.
AND IT WAS NO ONE, THERE WAS NOTHING CORDED OFF.
THERE WAS DIESEL IN THE WATER, UH, AT THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB IF YOU WANNA BRING THAT UP.
YEAH, IT WAS CAN I DO THAT NOW OR SHOULD I WAIT? YEAH, LET'S, UH, LET'S GET, LET'S GET THROUGH THROUGH IT AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH.
I GOT MY LIST OF, AND I GAVE YOU A HEADS UP ON ALL THOSE, SO, UM, WELL THAT'S GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? SO, UM, LET ME, WHAT WOULD YOU, UM, SUGGEST THE MAX ACTION, UM, THAT WE FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS THAT? WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IS THE BEST COURSE? BRIAN'S GONNA PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE COLLECTED UP TO DATE, WHICH IS A REGIONAL AND A NATIONAL LOOK AT WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MINE THAT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NO REAL OTHER AGENCY THAT HAS A MARINE STADIUM LIKE WE DO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE VERY UNIQUE, AND I, I'D LIKE FOR THE FOCUS NOT TO BE JUST ON THAT ONE GROUP.
I, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS ALL OF US USING THE STADIUM AND IT'S, IT'S A RESOURCE.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IS, IS FROM A, A PERSPECTIVE OF WAKE SPORTS NOW WAKE SPORTS, NOT, NOT EVEN WAKE SPORTS BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT ROWING, WE'RE LOOKING AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THAT'S NOT A THROUGH AFFAIR FOR THE OTHERS.
SO I THINK IT'S THE WHOLE USE OF THE STADIUM THAT I, WHAT I'D LIKE US TO ADDRESS IT AS, INSTEAD OF THINKING OF INDIVIDUAL USERS, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE THE WAKE SPORTS.
WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY.
BUT THE WAKE SPORTS IS WHAT I SAY WAKE SPORTS, I MEAN ALL, ALL MOTOR BOAT.
I DON'T WANT TO ALERT THE, UM, LEGAL FORCE THAT COMES WITH THE WAKE BOARDING COMMUNITY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN MAKE US A TEST CASE.
I THINK IT'S LOOKING AT IT AT A BROAD BASE LIKE SHE SAID.
SO WE LOOK AT DUFFY BOATS OR ELECTRIC, THEY'RE A POWER BOAT TOO.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KAYAK AND GO AROUND AND KAYAK AT A CERTAIN TIME.
I MEAN, IT'S LOOKING AT IF WE'RE GONNA REVIEW IT, LET'S LOOK AT THE BE HOLISTIC ON ALL ON ALL DIFFERENT BOATS.
HAVE YOU SEEN THEY'RE LIKE A HYDROFOIL SURFING.
THEY'RE IN THERE NOW TOO AND THEY'RE COMPETING WITH WELL, AND THEY PUT THAT THE WEIGHT IS WHAT'S REALLY SCARY IS THEY HAVE THIS BALLAST AND THEN THEY ADD PEOPLE TO THE BACK.
SO THE BEFORE PEOPLE IN THE BACK AND IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.
WELL, BUT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE GREAT FUN THAT'S AFFECTING THIS OTHER NEW FORM OF RIGHT.
AND EVERYTHING I THINK WE HAVE.
AND, AND, AND THE ENVIRONMENT COMES US TO LOOK LIKE YOU SAID, 20 TEN'S A LONG TIME AGO.
UM, AND NOW WE CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR LIKE YOU SAID, ENTERTAINMENT ON THE WATER.
ARE WE GONNA, ARE WE ONLY GONNA CLASSIFY THAT ONLY FOUR THINGS GET TO BE IN THE ARENA? OR IS IT OPEN FOR EVERYBODY? THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
WE WANNA BE INCLUSIVE AND JUST SMOOTH REASON.
AND, AND ALSO MY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO
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YOU GUYS, I'M SORRY, IS IT HAS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO I HAVE TO.I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE, I AGREE.
IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, I THINK, BUT WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS TO SPORTS IN WAKE SCHOOLS.
PRIMARILY MITIGATION ON WHAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT, WHAT SOME OF THOSE BOATS DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE MARINA.
AND I'M ONLY LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT IT FOR, YOU KNOW, 2028.
I'M LOOKING AT IT FOR HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE? NOW I KNOW THE OLYMPICS COME IN.
I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA GET MONEY TO, TO REDO THINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WELL THERE'S ALSO THE QUESTION OF NOT IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET HURT, BUT WITH THE WAKE SURFING, THE, THE FOLKS, THE PUBLIC CAME TO US AND TALKED TO US TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ONLY 10 FEET BEHIND THE BACK OF THE BOAT, WHICH IS A PROPELLER.
THEY'RE NOT ON, THEY'RE NOT ON A, A TOTAL.
AND YOU KNOW, WE BANNED THE RACING IN, IN, IN THE COMPETITION IN MARINE STADIUM BECAUSE OF DEATH.
IT WAS JUST, AGAIN, I HAVE TO HAVE WASHER THE BODY.
ALL HAS AN INHERENT VALUE TO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR COMING IN.
IT MAKES, EXCUSE ME, TODD, IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD AS A COMMISSION THAT A COUNCIL PERSON YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING AT THE COMMISSION YOU'D LIKE ME TO COME TO, GREAT.
AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, YOUR STAFF IS GREAT.
SO YOUR STAFF ALWAYS SHOWS UP.
AND IT WAS WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE INTERNS VISIT ALL THE THINGS ALONG THE WAY.
POSTED IF YOU WANT ME PRESENT.
WHERE, WHERE DO WE WANT THAT TO END? IS IT A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A COMMITTEE EXPLORE IT? YEAH.
THAT THAT'S, I, I RECOMMEND YOU GUYS JUST, JUST HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION AND HOW YOU LIKE TO SEE THE DISCUSSION MOVE FORWARD IS UP TO YOU.
DO WE REALLY NEED A COMMISSION? OTHER THAN I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER COMMISSION.
I, I THINK ANOTHER COMMITTEE OUTTA IT.
I THINK, I THINK HAVING YOU REVIEW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES.
THIS WAS BUILT AS A WATERWAY FOR, FOR RECREATION PERIOD.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COMING IN.
UM,
I, I'D LIKE TO USE IT THOUGH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC TOO.
SINCE WE'VE BEEN GETTING SO MANY QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING TO KICK IT UP A NOTCH WITH THAT.
YEAH, WE WILL, WE WILL BRIDAL FLUSH OUT A GOOD PRESENTATION.
THAT IS A, THAT IS AN OVERVIEW OF MARINE STADIUM.
AN OVERVIEW OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE AS IT IS.
AND THEN, UH, JUST WHAT OTHER MUNICIPAL AGENCIES AND JUST SAFETY SIDE I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT, IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT OUT THERE, WHO'S GONNA GET SUED? UH, AND, AND IT IT'LL BE US.
I MEAN, NOT, NOT US, IT'LL BE THE CITY.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY SAYS THE CITY, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION ARE FORMER FIREMEN AND FORMER PARAMEDICS.
SO I THINK THAT'S, IT BEHOOVES US TO, I DO, AND TWO ALSO NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THE, THE SAME IN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BRINGING UP SAFETY CONCERNS ARE ABOUT WAKE SURFING.
TEND TO ALSO COLOR OUTSIDE THE LINES WHEN IT COMES TO THE RULES AND WINGS.
AND IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE ENFORCEMENT NO, I AGREE.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE MIGHT BE THE GUY THAT'S ASKING, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THE BOSS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS GOING ON.
WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT UP, I WENT OUT THERE AND WATCHED IT AND WATCHED THE WATCH THE WASTE COME UP TO MY, YOU KNOW, MY KNEES.
THAT'S A, THAT'S YOU'RE NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT IN HERE.
IT WOULD DESTROY ALL THE BOATS, YOU KNOW, SO.
YEAH, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE GUIDANCE ON THAT OR WE'LL PROBABLY LEARN MORE FROM BRIAN'S.
I HAVE SOME ARTICLES AND SOME THINGS THEY'VE DONE IN WISCONSIN AND I'LL SEND OVER TO YOU.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THE, UM, THE MANAGER REPORT SECTION IS GONNA BE GOOD.
WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OUR LITTLE THINGS WE WANT STATUS ON.
UM, AND I THINK THAT I'LL GO BACK TO THAT LIST THAT I SENT YOU.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH LIGHTLY HERE ON THAT, UNDER UPDATES.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN
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TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, BOTH OUR MEETING LOCATION AND OUR MEETING TIME.UH, OH, DID YOU PUT THAT AS THE OH GOOD.
UH, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAKE ISSUE AND THAT ONE MORNING, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BEEN QUIET ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THAT INCIDENT, ABOUT THE, THE LONG BEACH LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB.
AND THE SAME MORNING WAS THE SWIMMERS GOING AROUND AND THE COMPLAINTS AND THE SWIMMERS OF THE DIESEL SMELL IN THE WATER AND THE FOUL TASTE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IF THERE WAS A DIESEL SPELL, WHICH THERE PROBABLY WAS BECAUSE THE, THE BOAT SAYING WAS THERE, THERE WAS NO KNOWLEDGE TO THE SWIMMERS.
YOU KNOW, COULD THAT HAVE BEEN REDIRECTED? COULD WE HAVE CHANGED THAT? UH, 'CAUSE I MEAN, YOU HAD THE OLYMPICS, YOU HAD THE OLYMPIC, YOU HAD THE, THE, THE, THE BRONZE MEDALIST, YOU KNOW, WATER POLO GUY LEADING THE PACK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND GOING THROUGH IT AND THERE WAS DIESEL, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS DIESEL IN THE WATER.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT THE PEOPLE SAID THAT IT FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, OIL DIESEL, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, FOUL TASTE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
UM, AND WERE WE AWARE OF THAT OR WAS ANYBODY AWARE OF THAT? WAS THAT THE YACHT CLUB THAT SHOULD HAVE MADE IT? WAS IT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT SHOULD HAVE MADE IT? YOU KNOW, WAS THERE ANYTHING PUT OUT? I NEVER SAW ANYTHING PUT OUT, UH, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT LEAKS AND IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF WHAT, FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE, UH, BEFORE THE SWIM AROUND.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF INCIDENTS ARE REALLY, WHOEVER NOTICES IT AS, AS HAS, HAS LIABILITY TO, IF IT'S THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB, LIKE THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT THE INCIDENT.
IF MARINE SAFETY SEES THAT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REPORT IT TO CERTAIN, IT, IT MAKES IT AWKWARD BECAUSE THE SAME PERSON THAT'S COMMODORE OF THE YACHT CLUB WAS THE OFFICIAL ON THE SCENE.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A LIABILITY.
IT'S MORE OF A, A SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING IN THE WATER, YOU NEED TO, YOU SHOULD REPORT IT HERE, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A
OR IF IT'S, IF WE TRACK IT BACK TO A SPECIFIC VESSEL, IT'S, IT BECOMES LIABILITY FOR THAT OWNER.
SO IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS DIESEL EMANATING FROM A LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB VESSEL, THEN IT WOULD CREATE A LIABILITY.
WELL, IT WAS, IT WAS BECAUSE OF A, A WAKE OR A CRASH OF ANOTHER BOAT.
AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A GOVERNMENT BOAT.
THEY DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE SHERIFFS GOING OUT AND DOING THEIR, OUR MARINE PATROL PEOPLE KNOW WHO IT WAS.
THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA SHARE THAT.
THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN, NO, I'M KIDDING.
SO I, I, I'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY AND MAYBE WE CAN ASK, UH, CHIEF MEDINA TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF HIS REPORT.
SO WE'RE, UH OH, OH, THE CLASSIC YACHT ON THAT.
THE VISIT, WE GOT THAT, THE BUOYS, UH, I HAD TALKED TO THE CITY COUNCILWOMAN WHEN WE WERE IN THE BOAT GOING AROUND DURING THE THING.
AND I SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOLAR ON THE BUOYS.
AND SHE JUST GOES, WELL HAVE TODD GET AHOLD OF ME AND LET'S GET THOSE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS I HAVE AND PUT THOSE ON THE BUOYS.
SO I KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR DOLLARS TO DO THAT.
WHAT DOES IT COST? THE CITY COUNCILMAN SAYS SHE WOULD BE ALL BUT THUMBS UP.
SO IF WE'RE WAITING TO GET DOLLARS FROM THAT FROM THE CITY OR A BUDGET, UH, LET HER KNOW.
AND SHE SAYS, YES, WE, WE NEED THAT.
SO WE'LL TOUCH BASE WITH, UH, WITH, UH, NICK, UH, CHIEF STAFF.
UM, AND THEN ON YOUR, UH, MANAGER'S REPORT, IF YOU COULD GIVE A, A BIT OF A BIG BANG DEBRIEF, JUST KIND OF LIKE YOU SHARED WITH US.
UM, I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE GOT A NEW FOCUS ON IMPOUND, A RETIRED LIFEGUARD.
YOU'RE BRINGING HIM ON BOARD TO HE'S GIVEN US THAT BOOK.
UM, CAN EXPLAIN, UH, NO, I DIDN'T
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TALK OFFLINE ON THAT ONE.I I I SENT IT AS CRYPTICALLY TO YOU AS I COULD, BUT OKAY.
I'M RETIRING AND THEY'RE HIRING ME.
I WAS LIKE, UH, WOULD, CAN YOU SPEAK ANY TO THE 2025 BUDGET ON YOUR REPORT? UM, I, I PREFER TO WAIT TILL OCTOBER.
FOR, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR GOT IT.
AND THAT'LL BE, AND OH, IN DEPTH, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR BRIAN TO EXCEL, UH, SLIPS ONE AND TWO.
UH, COULD YOU GET THAT AS, UM, COULD YOU STATUS THAT IN YOUR REPORT? YEAH.
AND THEN THE COUNCILWOMAN, WE GIVE HER AN ACTION ITEM ABOUT THE, UH, HOW MUCH IS COMING FROM THE LA RIVER.
WE JUST KEEP HAVING MORE AND MORE EVENTS.
THERE WAS A BIG COLLEGE EVENT THAT ONE WEEK AT THE SEA SCOUT BASE, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THE FULL ROUTE ALONG.
APPIAN WITH CARS PARKED ALONG THE SIDE ILLEGALLY.
AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER DID FROM MOTHER'S BEACH ALL THE WAY TO THE YACHT CLUB.
SO CARS PARKED ON APPIAN, LIKE OUT OUTSIDE THE CURB OR WELL PARALLEL PARKED ALONG THERE WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK, PARK ON APPIAN.
AND IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A, A, A DRAGON BOAT EVENT AND A COLLEGE COMPETITIVE EVENT AT THE SEA SCOUT BASE AND PROBABLY SAILING GOING ON AT THE YACHT CLUB.
AND SO WE WERE JUST MAXED OUT.
AND THERE, THERE WERE, WAS NO PARKING.
I ENDED UP PARKING ON THE TOLEDO BACK THROUGH.
DOES YOUR MARINE DEPARTMENT TAKE CARE OF THOSE PARKING ISSUES OR IS IT LONG BEACH PARKING OR LONG BEACH PD? UH, COMBINATION OF ALL COMBINATION OF, YEAH.
SO THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TICKET IT CARS THAT ARE PARKED ON THAT.
UH, GENERALLY THEY, THEY TICKET THOSE PRETTY QUICK.
AND THEN I'VE NOTICED THERE'S BEEN HEAVY DUTY MAINTENANCE.
IS THAT ALL PART OF THAT'S SOME OF LENNY'S AGREEMENT.
THE HEAVY DUTY MAINTENANCE, THE, UM, IN THE, UM, LANDSCAPING IN THE CENTER, MEDIAN ALONG APPIAN, UH, CENTER MEDIAN ALONG APPIAN.
THAT'S
IT, IT'S SUBCONTRACTED OUT TO SOMEBODY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN DOING MASSIVE STUFF AND BIG YEAH.
IF YOU ON YOUR WAY, I CAN SEE AROUND THE BUILDING THIS TIME OF YEAR IS WHEN EVERYTHING GETS CUT BACK.
IT'S CUT BACK COMING OUT KING AND YEAH.
SO IT'S CUT BACK SEASON, RIGHT? NOT, NOT CUT BACK FINANCIALLY
SO WE CUT 'EM BACK, THEY GO, THEY GO QUIET THROUGH THE FALL AND THEN THE GOAL IS THAT THEY'LL POP START.
I, I'M DELINQUENT AT HOME AND I HAD TO BREAK UP A FIGHT BETWEEN TWO RACCOONS IN MY TREE LAST NIGHT.
'CAUSE I HAD NOT TRIMMED EVERYTHING.
I LOVE MY RACCOON
THAT ONE WHERE ALL THE BALLAST POINT, UH, BOATHOUSE, THE RESTROOMS ARE STILL LOCKED.
THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE THING, ISN'T IT? IT ALWAYS IS BECAUSE IT REALLY ANNOYS ME THAT SOMEBODY THAT HAS A PERMIT THROUGH THE CITY DOES NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. AND THE BOAT LAUNCH THAT WAS OUT THERE, UH, DURING BIG BANG, THEY MUST HAVE HAD A, THERE WAS A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING PEOPLE WAITING TO GET ON THE BOAT.
AND THE BOAT CAN ONLY TAKE SO MANY.
SO THERE THE THREE DIFFERENT BOATS, YOU KNOW, COMING IN TO PUT 'EM OUT AND NEEDING TO USE THE RESTROOM.
SO THEY, THEY USE THE, THE PUBLIC ONES.
NOT THE PUBLIC ONES, BUT THE, UH, PORTA-POTTIES THAT WERE THERE.
WELL, WHAT IF THEY WEREN'T THERE? THEN THEY GO IN THE RESTAURANTS.
WELL THE RESTAURANTS LOOKING AT THE BOATHOUSE AND LOOKING IN THE RESTROOMS AT THE BOATHOUSE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THERE ALL THE TIME.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS CITY DOESN'T COME DOWN AND SAYS, THESE ARE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND BY THE STATE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN.
AND THE OWNERS OF THOSE, UH, DON'T OPEN 'EM.
I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.
'CAUSE THAT PROPERTY'S I AGREE.
BUT WE, I ASK ABOUT THAT EVERY TIME.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WHY DON'T THEY OPEN THOSE RESTROOMS? MY MY BASE UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS MY RUDIMENTARY UNDERSTANDING AND MAY BE WRONG, IS THOSE
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ARE, ARE RESTROOMS FOR TENANTS AND CUSTOMERS OF ALBANO BAY LANDING.AND WHILE THEY ARE LOCKED, YOU CAN GET A KEY NO FROM NO, THAT'S, THEY DO IT AT LONDON BOAT RINGS.
YOU CAN ASK FOR A KEY AND THEY'LL GIVE YOU A KEY AND YOU CAN OPEN UP THOSE BATHROOMS THERE TO UTILIZE THE RESTROOM.
SO THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC, THEY'RE CUSTOMER ONLY.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE CUSTOMER ONLY.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
UH, THAT COULD BASED ON, I'VE ACTUALLY WENT UP AND ASKED FOR.
CAN I, CAN I GET A KEY TO USE THE RESTROOM? LIKE, OKAY, HERE YOU GO.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESTROOM KIND OUTSIDE IANS YEAH.
SO, SO, UH, BUT I DO HAVE TO DEFER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.
THAT'S, IT'S JUST TO NOT HAVE RESTROOMS FOR ALL THOSE BOAT PEOPLE ARE NOT, I MEAN, SORRY.
UM, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE AQUALINK, UM, THAT'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE A DAY THAT WAIT IN LINE AND IT, IT'S HOT OUTSIDE AND OH, WE DON'T HAVE RESTROOMS AT BUS STOPS.
BUT, WELL, THE AQUALINK ENDED THE SEASON.
BUT, BUT WE DO HAVE A RESTROOM HERE THAT THE PEOPLE CAN PULL THE BUS STOP HERE AND THEY COME IN AND THEY CAN USE, THESE ARE PUBLIC RESTROOMS DOWN HERE.
AND THAT'S PART OF OUR, I THINK THAT'S JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS A RESTROOM THAT'S USING LONG BEACH TRANSIT, YOU'VE GOTTA GET, I I I THINK THAT'S NOT A BATTLE TO TAKE ON.
UH, ONE OTHER, I GOT THE BUOYS GOING, SO I GOT ONE BUOY OUT THERE.
I'M SIGNING FOR, UH, STANDARD TIME.
'CAUSE THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO SEE IT OUT MY WINDOW.
SUMMER AROUND FIVE, SIX O'CLOCK.
THE OTHER THING IF I CAN ADD, OH, GO AHEAD.
UH, UH, TWO THINGS IN, IN ON, ON THE PARK, ON THE BENCHES, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, ON THE BENCHES, I TOOK A PICTURE, I SENT IT TO THE CHAIRWOMAN.
OF, IT'S SO EASY AT EL DORADO GOLF COURSE, THEY HAVE THE BENCHES THAT WE HAVE HERE AND EVERYTHING IS JUST SANDBLASTED INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOGO OR THE NAMES.
IT'S JUST SANDBLASTED INTO THE BACK OF THE BENCH.
UM, SO NO ONE'S GONNA STEAL THAT.
SO, UH, UH, THE CHAIRWOMAN AND I DID HAVE A, A A THAT'S IN OUR ITEM SEVEN.
SO ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT ON MANAGER'S ORAL REPORT? NO, MA'AM.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR, UM, AN UPDATE ON THE DAVIES'S LAUNCH RAMP.
WHEN DOES THAT GRANT MONEY FROM DBA EXPIRE? THAT WAS NOVEMBER DOESN'T EXPIRE.
AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A, UH, PROJECT, A FEASIBLE PROJECT THAT, THAT MONEY'S SET ASIDE.
AND SO WHERE DOES THAT NOW STAND? UH, WE ARE, WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, WITH
UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SCOPING THE DOWN, SCOPING THE WORK TO BE COST EFFECTIVE.
THERE'S SOME FUNKY THINGS IN THAT SCOPE OF WORK THAT, UM, IT'S LIKE THEY REQUIRE A COTS BATHROOM.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER IN THERE.
AND IF THAT COULD BE, WHEN YOU REVISIT THAT SCOPE TO PUT THAT IN AS MORE THAT, THAT'S A BUILD OF THAT CONTRACTOR.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE, THE, UH, DAL THEIR PRIORITY IS ON AMENITIES TO BRING.
THEY WANT THE FISH CLEANING, WHICH I'M OPPOSED TO PERSONALLY.
AND I KNOW THAT, THAT PUSHING THAT RESTROOM.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT RESTROOM IS REALLY THE BEST THING FOR WHAT'S THERE.
AND NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING PUBLIC RESTROOMS YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THEM DURING THAT MEETING.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO MAYBE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME FUNKY THINGS IN THAT WHOLE REQUEST FOR BID.
THERE'S SOME, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY CUT AND PASTED SOME STUFF IN THERE SO IT'S NOT AS CONSISTENT FOR THE, UM, FOLKS GIVEN A BID.
WANT ME TO GO LOOK BY IT LINE BY LINE AND OR DO YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT THE DEBO STUFF? I, YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE YOU SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.
THE ONE THAT STICKS OUT THE MOST TO ME IS THE RESTROOM.
AND, AND IF THAT COULD BE MODIFIED, I THINK WE COULD GET THOSE BIDS IN LOWER.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PRI PRIMARY GOAL IS BRING IN A LOWER AND I THINK THAT THERE'S WAYS YOU CAN TRIM THAT AND STILL GET EVERYTHING THAT WE REALLY WANT AND, AND GET GOING ON THAT
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RAMPSO YEAH, WE'RE, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH TWO VALUE ENGINEERING PROCESSES.
UH, WE'RE GOING BACK OUT TO BID BASED ON THE NEW VALUE ENGINEER, WHICH IS A DOWN SCOPE OF RIGHT.
OF AND AND WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT? AGAIN? I'M HOPING THIS FALL.
YEAH, IT'S A $6 MILLION PROJECT IN 2020.
BECAME A $14 MILLION PROJECT IN 2024.
UM, I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING ON MY LIST FOR MANAGER'S REPORT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA HEAR A STATUS FROM TODD ON OR ANY OF HIS REPORTS? NOTHING ON CRIME FROM SERGEANT SIGLEY OR ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A CRIME UP DURING THE BIG BANG.
I MEAN, WAS THERE BREAK-INS? DID WE HAVE ANY CAR THINGS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THAT ANYBODY'S AWARE OF? WAS IT PRETTY CLEAN? EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT BIG BANG HAS BEEN A SMOOTH WEEKEND.
IT WAS HALF, HALF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
UM, UH, WHICH MADE IT RUN SO SMOOTH.
UH, AND I, I THINK THAT WAS, UH, UM, AGAIN, I WAS ON, I I DID THE PRAYER AND LEFT, YOU KNOW, SO GET HOME TO MY DOG.
BUT IT WAS, UH, UM, THE PEOPLE WERE ALL FREE DOG ON FRIENDLY.
AND I THINK, UM, PUBLIC WORKS HAD A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE PAST AND POSTED A LOT MORE.
AND, UM, I THINK THEY APPLIED A LOT OF THAT AND I THINK THAT HELPED IT AND THEN LESS CROWDS HELPED IT.
AND I THINK THEY LEARNED TOO, IF THEY EVER DO ANOTHER ONE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MA IT'S NOT GONNA BE MAXED OUT AT 1500 PEOPLE.
IT'LL, IT'LL BE HELD TO, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 800 PEOPLE.
I LOOKED AT THE PEOPLE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR DOGS AND, AND WALKING AROUND.
I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY COMFORTABLE.
THE NEAT THING WAS IS IS LIKE JOSEPH WHEN I WAS AROUND EARLIER AND I DROVE HOME SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE ROOFTOPS, LITERALLY ON THEIR ROOFTOP.
I MEAN, NOT ON BALCONIES, ON THEIR ROOFTOPS, PUTTING THEIR THINGS TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IT.
I TOLD HER WHEN I GOT HOME, I HAVE A TWO STORY, A DU IN THE BACK AND WE OPENED UP THE BACK WINDOWS AND WOW.
SO, UH, YOU COULD, I COULD SIT IN MY LOS SANSO ONE STORY LIVING ROOM ON THE SOFA AND WATCH 'EM.
SO YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, UH, IT WAS, IT IT WAS GOOD.
UH, OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MANAGER'S REPORTS, COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS.
UM, OUR MEETING YESTERDAY WITH TREES ON THE BAY, WHICH WAS, UH, REALLY WELL WITH THE, UH, WE TALKED TO IT'S ASHLEY, RIGHT? ASHLEY? MM-HMM.
UM, AND SHE WAS JUST A, JUST A ROCK STAR AND JUST BRINGING UP, SHE SAYS, HEY, SHARE WITH ME AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TREES, YOU KNOW, AND THE COST OF THE TREES.
AND WE BROUGHT UP AND I SAYS, WHAT IF WE HAD VOLUNTEERS? WHAT IF I HAD A UPS TREE AND WE GOT TWO TREES FROM UPS, YET I BROUGHT OVER 50 VOLUNTEERS TO HELP DO THE, THE, THE BULBS WHERE IT'S NOT A COST FACTOR THAT WE'RE DOING A VOLUNTEER.
LONG BEACH STATE GETS A TREE AND THEY BRING OVER THEIR ATHLETES 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO COMMUNITY SERVICE.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS PUT ON THAT? I KNOW THAT THE COST FACTOR OF FIVE GRAND IS A LOT OF LABOR.
WELL, WHAT IF WE BRING VOLUNTEERS OVER AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOUR WEEKENDS THAT VOLUNTEERS COME, THEY PAINT, THEY, THEY, THEY STRING YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE SHOWING 'EM HOW TO DO IT.
A LOT OF IT'S JUST UNDOING THE BULBS AND PUTTING THE LD BULB, LLED BULBS IN.
SO MAKE IT A VOLUNTEER EVENT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S A COMMUNITY EVENT.
AND THEN THEY CAN GO OUT AND IF, IF BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WANTS TO RAISE DOLLARS, WE'RE RAISING DOLLARS TO BUY A TREE THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE BAY.
AND WE WANNA TO HAVE OUR KIDS COME OUT, PEOPLE WILL DONATE TO THOSE NONPROFITS FOR THAT NONPROFIT TO PAY FOR A TREE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING THE NONPROFIT, WE WANT YOUR VOLUNTEERS, WE WANT YOU TO COME IN AND DO THIS.
AND MAYBE WE CAN LOWER IT DOWN SINCE THEY'RE DOING THE WORK AND PAINTING IT AND RES STRINGING IT.
UH, AND, AND THE CHAIRWOMAN AND I, WERE, WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND DOLLARS STARTS AT A THOUSAND, 2,500, 5,000, WHATEVER.
AND HAVING NOT A BRASS PLOT BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE TAKEN MOSTLY THOUGH FROM THE PARTNERS IN PARKS STANDPOINT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA SUPPORT US.
SO WE ARE THINKING A GREAT CAMPAIGN ON THAT.
UM, HISTORICALLY THERE'S BEEN A DONORS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN ADOPTING THE TREES FOR $168 A PIECE.
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SO THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF STICKER SHOCK FOR THE DONATIONS, BUT THE DONATION VALUE, LIKE FROM VISIT LONG BEACH MAY REMAIN THE SAME.IT'S JUST THEY'LL ADOPT FEWER TREES.
UH, SHE'S BEEN DOING THE, UM, LOAN SAILOR, UM, WORK RIGHT NOW WITH, UH, ON PARTNERS IN PARKS AND, UM, SHE GOT A LOT OF IN KIND DONATIONS.
SO THAT'S THE EXPERTISE THAT ASHLEY'S BRINGING TO THE PARTY.
UM, THAT SHE HAS SOME RESOURCES.
SHE'S ABLE TO GET SOME IN KIND, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE FULFILLMENT END.
SHE ALSO TALKED THAT THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY FLEXIBLE ABOUT THE AMOUNT PERCENTAGE THAT GOES TOWARDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PARTNER ON PARKS.
AND IT, IN THE PAST IT HAD BEEN 20%.
AND WE, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE, SHE'S GONNA BRING SO MUCH TO THE PARTY.
WE'RE GONNA GET ENOUGH VALUE OUT OF THAT.
AND THAT IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAND SOMETHING OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE TO TAKE CARE OF DOING THE, UM, COLLATERAL MATERIALS AND THE PROMOTION AND THE PRESS RELEASES.
UM, AND IF THEY'LL HANDLE ALL THAT, WE'RE GONNA GET OUR MONEY'S WORTH.
WELL WE SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAD AN IDEA.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S CHANGE THE LIGHTS, MAKE IT A GOLD TREE, WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, WE LEAVE THE TREES THE WAY IT ARE, BUT MAYBE IF YOU'RE A THOUSAND DOLLARS DONATING, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND OR 25, IT'S A, A GOLD STAR ON TOP OF THE TREE.
SO THOSE ARE THE SPONSORED TREES WITH A GOLD STAR.
AND PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT, HEY, THAT'S MY TREE.
OR THEY PUT A MAP OUT, MAYBE WE DON'T PUT THE NAMES ON.
YOU PUT A NAME ON IT AND STUFF.
I, I WAS, LEAVE IT, IT AIN'T BROKE.
BUT ON A MAP, LET'S LEAVE, LET'S LEAVE THE PROCESS THE WAY IT IS.
YOU COULD DO A MAP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN RAISE.
HERE'S BRUCE'S TREE OVER HERE.
WHEN YOU GO BY THAT'S, SEE, IT'S ON THE MAP.
IT'S, AND DO SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE WILL HAVE THAT PUT IT UP ON THEIR WALL.
I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS.
SO IT'S, UH, UM, AND I, I KNOW CATALINA, I, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO THE CHAMBER AND THE PEOPLE OVER THERE STOP.
I'M JUST SAYING THEY WANT TWO TREES.
I KNOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE 9 0 8.
UH, SO YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ON TREES AND, UM, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP EMAILS AND WE'LL INCLUDE YOU AS A PART OF THOSE.
JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THE DISCUSSIONS ARE.
AND YOU CAN INTERVENE IF WE GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH.
UM, AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE THE REPORT ON THE, THE SURF THAT GORDON HAS MADE SOME HEADWAY THERE.
AND I THINK WE CAN AVOID HER HAVING A BLUFF REPORT IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE, UH, REPORT THAT WE'LL GET FROM KELLY.
YEAH, I THINK IT, IT'LL AND, AND THAT'LL GIVE HER HER OPPORTUNITY.
SO, WE'LL JUST AS FAR AS COMMITTEE REPORTS GO, ANY OF THE STANDING COMMITTEES, UM, THE SURF AND THE TREES, IS THERE ANYONE OTHER ONES OUT THERE THAT WE NEED A COMMITTEE REPORT ON? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, AND WE HAD TALKED AT ONE POINT ABOUT HAVING, UM, A STANDING LINE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
UM, STATUSING OLYMPICS NOT THERE YET.
THIS IS STILL A CITY MANAGER, UH, OFFICE ITEM.
UH, I'M IN COMMUNICATION WITH GEORGE, AND WHEN THEY KIND OF BRING MORE INFORMATION TO THE FOREFRONT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OPEN DISCUSSIONS.
BUT JUST DUE TO WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS, UH, WE WANT TO KEEP, UH, THE COMMUNICATION AND ON PAPER.
SO LET'S KEEP THAT ON OUR RADAR THAT WE MAYBE WANNA HOLD THAT OVER OCTOBER.
WE CAN DO, I KNOW YOU HAVE A MANAGER'S REPORT.
I CAN, I CAN JUST PUT IT IN MY MANDATORY YEAH.
LET'S LET BUT AND THEN PULL IT OUT AND MAKE IT AN AGENDA.
IT IT HOW THINGS ARE MATURING.
IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW WITH, BECAUSE I KNOW AT THE OCTOBER NINE BOA MEETING, THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ASKING YOU ABOUT OLYMPICS.
AND AGAIN, IT'LL JUST BE A BASE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER.
THE, AND THE, THE MAYOR HASN'T EVEN, HE'S PUTTING TOGETHER A COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW.
HE'S GOT THE THREE COMMITTEES THAT HE BRIEFED AT THE, SO, UH, THE OTHER THING IS, AS THE CHAIRWOMAN, WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE, UH, A NIGHTTIME ONCE A QUARTER, UM, A NIGHTTIME MEETING THAT, THAT'S, UM, YOU'RE JUMPING AHEAD AND WAIT.
AM I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.
NO, WE WERE, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT UP COMMITTEE REPORTS.
NO, I, I MADE THE SAME MISTAKE AND PAMELA HAD TO POINT IT OUT TO ME.
SO WE'RE READY TO GO ON TO ITEM EIGHT.
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AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, LOCATION AND TIMING.AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS THAT HAVE REALLY FELT LIKE WE OUGHT TO CHANGE OUR TIME CONSISTENTLY.
AND I KNOW BRUCE AND MY PERSONAL OPINIONS ARE, UM, THAT IT WOULD REALLY ONLY WARRANT IT WHEN THERE'S A TIME THAT WE'D GOING TO SOLICIT A LOT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN INDEPENDENTLY, UM, RESEARCHING SOME DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR OPTIONS.
AGAIN, I WANT TO ADVISE THE COMMISSION THAT THE THING ABOUT CITY MEETINGS, PUBLIC MEETINGS IS YOU WANT CONSISTENCY AND YOU WANT THE CONSISTENCY IN TWO ROWS, YOUR LOCATION AND YOUR TIME.
UH, SEVERAL WEEKS BACK, ONE OF THE BUDGET, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THEY'RE USUALLY AT THREE 30 EVERY TUESDAY BEFORE COUNCIL THREE 30.
THEY MADE THE ADJUSTMENT FOR ONE TO ONE O'CLOCK.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A CHANGE, MAKE THE CHANGE.
I ADVISE, I RECOMMEND WE STAY AT TWO 30 AND THEN DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHEN WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES, THAT WE KNOW IS GONNA, UH, DELVE INTO A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC INTEREST, WE CAN ADJUST AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS A PUBLIC INTEREST MEETING WHERE MOVING TO THIS TIME AT THIS LOCATION BASED ON NEED.
I, I, I, I, I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE I, I WENT OVER THE LITTLE PACKET THAT YOU GAVE ME WHEN I SIGNED UP AND IT, IT, IT SPECIFIES TIME AND PLACE OF MEETINGS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN, WHEN WE SIGN THAT LITTLE FORM, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE COMMITTING, THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE A PART OF.
UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TODD, I I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK JUST HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING BIG THAT THE CHAIRWOMAN CAN SAY, HEY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE AND HAVE THIS MEETING NEXT MONTH AT THIS TIME, UH, AT THIS LOCATION.
IT'S GET, IT GETS PUT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
THAT'S REALLY A, A PART OF OUR MEETINGS.
UM, BUT WHEN IT'S SOMETHING BIG, UH, I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH THE OLYMPICS COMING UP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SOME OF THE, THE GENTLEMAN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS WORRIED THAT HIS HOUSE WAS BUILT WHENEVER, 10 YEARS AGO, AND HE SAYS, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? AND I'M JUST LIKE, THERE'S GONNA BE BUSES ON OUR BLOCK, NOT JUST BUSES.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE WILD.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THREE OLYMPICS FOR UPS MM-HMM.
AND IT'S, UH, UM, IT'S MIND-NUMBING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU'RE THERE FIVE MONTHS BEFORE ANYTHING EVEN STARTS.
I PROPOSED THAT DURING OUR, UM, ANNUAL TRAINING, THAT WE TALK ABOUT A CALENDAR AT THE YEAR AND KIND OF HAVE SOME, A RHYTHM OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AND WE'RE GONNA NEED TO ADJUST IT.
BUT IF WE KIND OF KNEW, OH, OKAY.
WE ANTICIPATE IN APRIL THERE'LL BE ABLE, THAT'LL BE RIGHT ABOUT WHEN WE'LL BE HEARING A LOT MORE ON SUCH AND SUCH.
LET'S MAKE THAT AN EVENING MEETING.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN PUBLISH KIND OF OUR CALENDAR TOO.
AND THAT'S, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY SECOND RECOMMENDATION.
IS THAT A MONTH'S NOTICE IN THE PRIOR, THE PREVIOUS, THE, THE CURRENT MEETING YOU STATE FOR THE UPCOMING, FOR THE UPCOMING MEETING.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, HEY, NEXT MEETING AND NOW, SO CAN WE PURSUE, UM, OCTOBER OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER TO GO WITH THAT? WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO, UH, THE SUE SCOUT IS IN OCTOBER.
UM, UH, I NEED TO CIRCLE THAT WITH MARY HARKO TO GET A LOOK AT WHAT THE, UH, CAPACITY IS, UH, FOR AUDIO VISION, BUT THAT'D BE OCTOBER 10TH.
UM, AND I AM GOING TO THE AMERICA'S CUP THAT WEEK.
AND I'M A, UM, I'M IN IDAHO, SO WE NEED FIVE
SO AGAIN, SO AGAIN, I JUST NEED TO STRESS IS THAT I, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SWITCH THAT FOR A, A, A PUBLIC INTEREST MEETING GOING TO A NIGHTTIME AND POTENTIALLY MOVING A LOCATION.
HOWEVER, WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS OUR STANDARD MEETING, WHATEVER TIME THAT'S GONNA BE, WHETHER THAT'S AT 2 30, 3 30, 6 30, 7 30,
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IT SHOULD BE AT THE SAME LOCATION ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT COMFORTABLE COMING INTO THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB, AND I'VE HEARD THAT.
SO, AND JUST THE FLIP SIDE OF IT, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE THE IDEA BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MEMBERS AND THEY GET EXCITED TO GO.
WE EVEN HAD, REMEMBER WE EVEN HAD THE ONE CITY EMPLOYEE THAT WAS SO EXCITED, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE CAME IN.
AND THAT'S, AND HE WAS BEAMING.
THEY DON'T ALLOW ME IN THERE OTHER THAN WITH THE COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, I THINK SO IF YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR SCHEDULE FOR THE 10TH, THAT'D BE GOOD.
UH, THE OTHER ONE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, UH, NEXT WEEK AT THE BOARD MEETING, UM, I'M IN HAWAII.
IT'S MY GOING AWAY WITH THE GOVERNOR, SO THEY'RE GOING TO AN EVENT FOR ME NEXT WEEK.
UH, AS FAR AS PEOPLE FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE YACHT CLUB, WE, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF LETTING 'EM KNOW THAT'S PUBLIC LAND AND THAT PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE, ARE TO BE HELD.
THAT THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR, BUT THERE'S STILL AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS THE CAPABILITY OF BLACKBALLING PEOPLE AND NOT ALLOWING THEM TO BECOME MEMBERS.
UM, BUT I THINK PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT'S VERY COST PROHIBITIVE TOO.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST BARRIER I THINK TO ANYBODY IS, IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO JOIN THE YACHT CLUB.
WHAT'S THE COST OF JOINING THE YACHT CLUB? ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE YACHT CLUB? YES.
DID YOU REALLY? SO I DID ALL THE ORIGINAL, I SWAM IN THAT POOL THIS MORNING.
BUT, UM, SO IT'S 12,000 TO JOIN.
AND WHAT IS IT A MONTH? YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FOOD TYPE THING? YEAH, WE HAVE A QUARTERLY FOOD AND BEVERAGE MINIMUM, AND THEN THE MONTHLY DUES ARE ABOUT 500.
UM, AND THEN THERE'LL BE, IT'S, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING 75 A MONTH TOWARDS THE REBUILD.
I'M JUST, UH, ONE OF THOSE, YEAH, ONE OF THOSE.
NICE MEMBERSHIP, SOCIAL MEMBERSHIP.
THERE'S SOME GREAT FOOD THERE.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT VIRGINIA OR ANYTHING ELSE, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY, AND THAT'S THE PRIVATE CLUB STANDARD, BUT YOU'VE GOT RECIPROCALS ALL OVER THE WORLD, SO IT'S A GOOD THING.
DO YOU HAVE, GOTTA ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, AND I KNOW IT'S OFF SUBJECT, BUT DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BOAT TO BE PART OF THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB STILL? NO.
OH, THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERSHIP DO NOT HAVE BOATS.
THANK AND THAT'S REALLY A TREND IN, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF INTERESTING, THE, UM, MORE OF THE SHARED USES OF, YOU KNOW, GET MY BOAT AND THE DIFFERENT RENTAL COMPANIES.
AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT TODD AND BRIAN BOTH ARE KEEPING, UH, TABS ON CONSTANTLY BECAUSE THE, UM, THOSE AGENCIES WANT A CHANCE TO, UM, HAVE EXPOSURE HERE.
SO SOMETIME THEY'LL COME IN AS A SPONSOR FOR AN EVENT AND THEN, UM, AND BRING THEIR SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING AND PUT IT ON THE LONG DOCK AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO BOAT RENTALS.
AND THEN THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DO PRIVATE RENTALS.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE 'EM ON CRAIGSLIST AND, UH, AND I'VE BEEN VERY THANKFUL TO TODD AND HIS TEAM WHEN I'VE GIVEN THEM A, A CF NUMBER AND A LINK TO A POSTING, UM, THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ACTION.
AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN THIS MARINA.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO BE AUTHORIZED TO DO COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
HOWEVER, IT'S THE, THE, THE PATTERN OF USE AND THE TRENDS, LIKE COMMISSIONER MURRAY IS SAYING IS LEADING TOWARDS PEER TO PEER AND ONLINE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
DO YOU STILL HAVE THE BED AND BREAKFAST? I KNOW THEY HAD A NUMBER OF BOATS THAT DO BED AND BREAKFAST DOWNTOWN.
IS IT DONE? BOAT AND BREAKFAST.
THEY, YOU DON'T GO OUT, YOU DON'T TAKE THE BOAT OUT.
YOU'RE JUST SLEEPING ON THE BOAT.
BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, BRIAN'S ACTIVELY WORKING WITH, UH, A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMPANIES JUST LOOKING HOW TO, TO BETTER POSITION OURSELVES TO MEET THE CUSTOMER NEED FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT.
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AND BEYOND.AND KNOWING THAT IT'S, IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO WE CAN GET AHEAD OF IT AND LIKE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A PATHWAY TO GENERATE REVENUE AND MAKE IT SAFER, OR WE'RE JUST ON THE BACK OR CAN FIGHT IT AND JUST, AND EVERYBODY'S MISERABLE.
SO YEAH, LET'S LOOK DOWN THE ROAD TO GET SOME OF THE, UM, THE SUMMARIES OF YOUR FINDINGS.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S AN ONGOING ACTIVITY AND, AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE PROMOTE IT ON THE LONG DOCK OR YEAH.
I, I GIVE 'EM A BAD TIME AND ASK THEM, UH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HOW LONG IS THIS GONNA BE HERE? AND I SEE THESE SANDWICH BOARDS OUT HERE AND YEAH.
I, I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE, I, YOU GUYS KNOW, LIKE, I HAD SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN MARINE DELRAY, SO LIKE THE, THE CHARTER PROGRAM UP THERE AND LIKE DEVELOPING A SPACE.
AND THEN I, I HAD A CALL WITH, UH, SOMEONE DOWN IN NEWPORT ABOUT HOW THEY'VE SET, THERE'S A TRY TO FIND, YOU KNOW, THE PROS AND CONS OF DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND, YOU KNOW, FINDING LOCATIONS THAT ARE SUITABLE AND LIKE HOW WE CAN INSTITUTE THAT POLICY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND A, A LEGAL PATHWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FITS EVERYBODY'S NEEDS.
COMMISSIONER MARINA, ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
TODD
I, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT SOME OF OUR, OUR, UM, COMMISSIONERS ARE NOW COMING BACK TO OUR MEETINGS.
WE KIND OF HAD A LITTLE LULL THERE WHERE WE WEREN'T GETTING A FEW OF THEM.
UM, I DO FEEL I, I WILL BE VERY VOCAL AND JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING A TON OF WORK, A TON OF WORK AS A COMMISSION VERSUS WHAT WE WERE LIKE, UM, FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.
I THINK WE WERE JUST A RUBBER STAMP AND NOW WE'RE VERY ACTIVE INVOLVED.
WELL, THAT'S KUDOS TO STAFF FOR BEING SUPPORTIVE OF OUR EFFORTS.
AND WHEN, WHEN COMMISSIONER MURRAY GIVES THEM A BAD TIME ON THINGS, THEY RESPOND
YOU'VE ASKED FOR STRONGER ITEMS TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.
WE, WE'VE, WE'VE BROUGHT THOSE THINGS TO YOU.
UH, ONE THING WITH THE PARTICIPATION I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE YOU CONTINUE TO STRESS IS, IS LET YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KNOW IS, HEY, WE DO HAVE THESE METEOR ITEMS COMING TO US.
THE HARDER YOUR THINGS MM-HMM.
THOSE THINGS REQUIRE MORE DISCUSSION.
SO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE READY FOR BEING AT THESE MEETINGS AND NOT LEAVING AT FOUR IS, IT IS PAINFUL WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE TO RUSH THROUGH THINGS.
AND IT'S MORE TIME ON YOUR SIDE.
WE UNDERSTAND THE COST BECAUSE WHEN YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING, I, I'M JUST SAYING THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LOBBYIST, WHEN YOU ASK, WHEN ANOTHER MEMBER WILL ASK ANOTHER MEMBER, I NEED A WHOLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.
NOW THEY'VE DESIGNATED SOMEBODY NOW TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION WHEN THEY SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THEY DO THAT JUST TO, JUST TO UPSET PEOPLE.
SO IT'S A, UM, NO, I WANT TO THANK YOU.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR BEING THERE FOR US TOO, YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE.
UM, AND I HOPE HE'S TAKING CARE OF YOU.
I, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED IN DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND, AND YOU ARE SIMPLY A ROCKSTAR BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS GROUP NOW FOR I THINK FOUR YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
AND YOU'VE REALLY STEPPED UP AND REALLY KEPT THE DOORS OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO TALK TO YOU AND TALK TO ALL OF US.
COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT EVERYBODY, SO.