* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TO ORDER. [00:00:01] UM, I SEE THE TIME, THE TIME OF, UH, 1 35. AND, UM, LET'S DO A QUICK ROLL CALL. UM, ELIZABETH LAMB COMMISSIONER, SHE'S EXCUSED. YES. JOE MURRAY, COMMISSIONER. I'M HERE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A, AND I'M HERE. SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE A COURT. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, LET'S START WITH OUR REGULAR AGENDA. A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE S CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMITTEE MEETING. THERE'S, IS IT PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? WELL, NO, USED TO GET I HAVE THE, UM, MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THEN YOU GO BACK FORTH IN, THEY MOVE, THEY BE, UM, APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED. OKAY. UH, MOVED. UM, AS DISTRIBUTED FOR THE, UH, MINUTES OF THE S CAPITAL PROJECT COMMITTEE MEETING OF THURSDAY, JUNE 13TH. IN FAVOR? A MOTION. MOTION. I SO MOVED. YOU DID? OKAY. SO MOVED, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. APPROVED. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SAME, I GUESS MOVING ON, IS THIS YOUR DAY OFF? SO ARE YOU THE PUBLIC? I HAVE DAY OFF. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE TIDELAND CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMITTEE. OKAY. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. UM, IF, THANK YOU MR. LELAND, MANAGER LELAND, FOR, FOR PULLING THIS UP. UM, SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR LIST OF ACTIVE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THERE'S A NEW PROJECT WE ADDED THAT WE DO HAVE UPDATES ON, BUT STARTING WITH PROJECTS IN CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE THE RO SPORTS COURTS PROJECT. UM, THIS IS A PROJECT TO ESSENTIALLY INSTALL A ROLLER SKATING AREA, A LITTLE TRAIN ROLLER SKATING AREA, AND A NEW BASKETBALL BOARD. ALL, UM, HARDSCAPE HAS BEEN PLACED. UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SOFT OPENING SCHEDULED THIS SATURDAY. UM, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, REC AND MARINE. I BELIEVE MR. DIRECTOR BRENT DENNIS WILL BE MCING US. UM, SO THAT'S ALWAYS, UM, FUN AND ENTERTAINING TO SEE HIM MC AN EVENT. UM, BUT THIS IS A SOFT OPENING BECAUSE WE STILL DO HAVE SOME WORK. WE HAVE LONG LEAD ITEMS WITH SHADE STRUCTURES. UM, SO THAT'LL, UM, MAKE ITS WAY TO CALIFORNIA SOMETIME BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AND WE'LL INSTALL THE SHEET STRUCTURES, UM, FOR FULL BENEFIT, UM, IN 2025 FOR THE ROLLER SKATING COMMUNITY. AND ANYONE THAT KIND OF WANTS TO KIND OF GET THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, EIGHT WHEELS UNDER THEIR FEET ROLLER BLADE. SO WHAT TIME IS THAT? UM, THE EVENT IS AT 11:00 AM DO WE BRING OUR ROLLER SKATES? BRING YOUR ROLLER SKATES, ROLLER BLADES, YOUR FEET. . IT'LL BE, UH, UM, I'M SURE A, A GOOD TIME IN A, A DANCE PARTY. GREAT. OKAY. COLORADO LAGOON OPEN CHANNEL. UM, UM, I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LAGOON. SOME OF YOU HAVE TOURED IT, UM, WITH US, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR NOW, UM, THE PROJECT SEEKS TO IMPROVE TIDAL CIRCULATION AND REGIMES IN COLORADO LAGOON BY CREATING, UM, AN OPEN CHANNEL WATERWAY. UM, WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT, UM, SINCE AUGUST. UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY ARE USING ONE OF THE EXISTING, I GUESS THE LASER POINTER DOESN'T WORK ON THE SCREEN, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UM, WATER ACTUALLY FLOWING THROUGH WHAT WOULD BE ELLIOTT STREET BRIDGE. UM, SO, HI. UM, SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS SORT OF LIKE, UH, THE FOOTPRINT, LIKE THE LASER POINTER DOESN'T WORK ON THIS, BUT THE, YOU CAN SEE THE WATER CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING TIDAL CULVERT, UM, OR THE EXISTING UNDERGROUND CULVERT, WHICH IS NOW, UM, EXPOSED AND LIGHTED UNTIL WE FULLY CONSTRUCT THE ELLIOT STREET BRIDGE. THE EXISTING CULVERT IS STILL BEING USED. WE CAN HAVE A GOOD VISUAL OF WHAT THAT, UM, CHANNEL, UM, BANKS AND THE, UM, WHAT THE TITLE, UM, INFLUENCE LOOKS LIKE IN THIS AREA. THIS, THAT AREA CONTINUES TO CONCERN ME THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SWIM UNDER THAT BRIDGE. AND SO I IMAGINE EVERY TEENAGE BUOYANT TOWN'S GONNA WANNA JUMP OFF AND SWIM UNDER NO, NO. SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO TO PROTECT THAT? UM, STRONG SIGNAGE WE'RE GONNA HAVE NO, IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. UM, BUT YES, NO, THIS IS, ARE THERE ANY PHYSICAL BARRIERS? UM, THERE ARE RAILS, UM, AND THERE ARE SIDEWALKS. UM, BUT YES, WE WILL, WE WILL SIGN IT. BECAUSE YOU CANNOT JUMP IN BECAUSE THIS HAS A HARD BOTTOM RIGHT. BECAUSE IT IS A COLD RIDE. RIGHT. AND I JUST PICTURED FATALITIES. YEAH. AND SERIOUS ACCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, SO SIGNAGE, SIGNAGE, SIGNAGE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. LIKE SIMILAR TO, UM, UM, HUNTINGTON BEACH, EVEN IN THE APPROACHES OF THE CULVERTS ON THE VERTICAL, UM, FACES, IT SAYS NO SWIMMING, NO DIVING, UM, [00:05:01] AND, AND NO ENTRY. MM. GOT IT. YEP. HOW ABOUT SMALL BOATS? SMALL? NO ONE? NO ONE? NO, NO. YEAH, THEY PUT A SMALL BOAT THROUGH THERE. OH. OH, YEAH. OH, THEY ARE ALREADY FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY CAN GET IN THERE. YEAH, NO, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE SIGNAGE AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WITH MARINE BUREAU IF WE NEED TO, UM, UM, INSTALL ANY BUOYS OR DEMAR CATERS TO BASICALLY PREVENT, UM, ACCESS TO THAT AREA. BUT IT IS A HABITAT AREA, SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANY ACCESS OF ANY SORTS. I I JUST SEE A, A ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE FOR MARINE PATROL. AND THAT'S THE EXPRESSION. YEAH. YEAH. WE HAVE BRIDGES EVERYWHERE, SO WE'LL FOLLOW THE SAME PROTOCOLS THAT WE FOLLOW WITH LIKE THE NAPLES BRIDGES. I KNOW PEOPLE, UM, UM, ARE ALSO ENFORCING THE, NO JUMPING OFF THOSE, UM, AREAS AS WELL. WELL, IT'S A NEW BRIDGE, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW COMPLEX NEW SIGN. UM, YEAH. SO THAT, THAT IS DEFINITELY ON OUR RADAR. WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE, UM, IN THERE THROUGH THERE. UH, AND THEN HAS THERE BEEN SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE, WHAT'S WITH THE PROJECT WITH THE LAST WEEK THAT'S BEEN, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST GOT BACK TO A GREAT INTEREST, COLIN, DO YOU KNOW? SO YEAH, I THINK THE, THE UPDATE, THE MAJOR MILESTONE IS THE TITLE FLOWS THAT ARE NOW ROUTED INTO THE BRIDGE. UM, WERE THERE ANY ANOMALIES OR SOMETHING ODORS SMELL? WE DID HAVE ODORS. OH, THAT WAS EARLY ON. YEAH. WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT? JUST, I HEARD SOME CONCERNS. WHAT, WHAT CONCERNS? UNCLEAR. SO . OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY NEW CONCERNS ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION ON, ON BOTH SIDES. UM, THAT WORKS ONGOING. YEAH. SO WHAT WE'LL DO, UM, SO UP UPCOMING MILESTONES TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, INCLUDE REROUTING A, UM, A WELL USED TEMPORARY PATH THAT BISECTS THE, UH, COLORADO LAGOON MARINA VISTA PARK SITE RIGHT NOW. AND MOVING FOLKS, UM, THE TEMPORARY PATHWAY TO CONNECT TO THE LOCAL SCHOOLS ONTO ELLIOT. SO WE'LL HAVE THEM CONTINUE TO USE MARINE DRIVE, UM, AND THEN ESSENTIALLY HEAD WEST AND CONNECT TO ELLIOT STREET BRIDGE AND THEN HEAD OVER TO THE SCHOOL. SO THAT TEMPORARY PATHWAY THAT WE SEE NOW WILL BE REMOVED AND BE REPLACED WITH A, UM, A DIFFERENT SORT OF PATH OF TRAVEL AND TEMPORARY ACCESS. SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING TO BASICALLY BUILD UP THE GRADES TO THE BRIDGE AND RESURFACE AND PAVE. UM, SO IT'LL START LOOKING AND FEELING LIKE A BRIDGE, UM, FINALLY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS ON COLORADO LAGOON? ANY, UM, MORE FIDELITY ON THE COMPLETION OR MORE THAN JUST A SEASON? UM, SPRING 2025. WE'RE ANTICIPATING INSTALLING, PLANTING BY THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, TO ESSENTIALLY GIVE IT TIME TO ESTABLISH AND FOR THE FIELDS TO ACTUALLY, UM, TAKE STRONG HOLD AND STRONG ROOTS AND DEVELOP, UM, LIKE A STRONG TURF, UM, BASE. UM, SO THAT'S STILL THE PLAN. SO, UM, IT MIGHT LOOK, UM, FENCED IN AND FENCED OFF, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT. BUT THAT'S THE PLAN AS OF NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. WE DO STILL HAVE A FALL SEASON TO GET THROUGH AND A WINTER SEASON TO GET THROUGH. SO BARRING, UM, UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS, RAIN, UM, ADVERSE, YOU KNOW, WEATHER IMPACTS, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SPRING 2025 WITH TARGETED PLANTING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. OKAY. MOVING ON. THEME'S, BOAT LAUNCH RAMP. UM, SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REBIDDING. UM, THE CITY DID OPEN BIDS, UM, THEY CAME IN SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. UM, TODD, MYSELF, UH, OUR PROJECT MANAGER MET WITH THE GRANTOR, UM, ASKING FOR MORE FUNDING ESSENTIALLY, AND THEY BASICALLY SAID THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UH, TO PROVIDE. UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON FURTHER VALUE ENGINEERING THE PARKING LOT, UM, AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF USABILITY. UM, WE HEARD FROM THE GRANTOR THE PRIORITIES WERE THE RESTROOMS, THE LAUNCH RAMP ITSELF, BUT WE DO WANNA, UM, COME IN HERE ONCE AND MAKE THE INVESTMENTS, UM, AND KIND OF DO EVERYTHING IN, IN ONE PACKAGE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE HOW MUCH VE UM, WE CAN DO AND WHAT OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE PROJECT, INCLUDING, UM, SOME ENERGY EFFICIENCY FUNDS. UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT BID EXPRESSED WAS THAT THERE WERE, LIKE THE RESTROOM WAS, HAD TO BE COTS AND KIND OF AN EXISTING HALF A MILLION PLUG AND PLAY. AND IF IT HAD BEEN RULED OUT AS A PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, THEY COULD HAVE BID IT FOR LESS. [00:10:01] UM, I'M NOT SURE. LIKE THEY WERE COMPLAINING THAT IT WAS A PREFAB OH, YOU, YEAH. THAT, THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PURCHASED, THAT PREFAB THAT HAD A LONG LEAD AND HALF A MILLION. IT WAS ACTUALLY MORE, UM, BUT THE PREFAB RESTROOMS ARE ACTUALLY MUCH CHEAPER THAN, UM, GROUND UP CONSTRUCTION RESTROOMS. 'CAUSE IS THERE A WAY TO PUT THAT AS A, UM, OPTION IN THE NO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR. WE'VE ASKED, UM, DIVISION OF BOATING AND WATERWAYS, WHO'S THE GRAND TOUR, AND WE'VE ASKED, CAN WE JUST RENOVATE AND REHABILITATE THE RESTROOM? AND THEY REALLY SAID NO, THEY WANTED TO SEE A BRAND NEW RESTROOM FACILITY BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST WELL USED ASSETS IN A PUBLIC, UM, LAUNCH RAMP. I, I'M THINKING STILL BRAND NEW, BUT WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE ONE THAT'S ALREADY PREFABBED OR NOT, OR YOU COULD GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO THE CONTRACTOR AND YOU'RE SAYING NO. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S, THE PLANS ARE SET UP, UM, THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE THAT IS THE CHEAPER WAY TO GO. LIKE, IT, IT, IT, FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, STICK UP CONSTRUCTION IS MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT BIDDERS CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE BID PERIOD AND REQUEST, UM, ALTERNATIVES SUBJECT TO APPROVAL. SO THAT PATHWAY IS STILL OPEN IF, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ON MATERIALS AND METHODS. YEAH, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, I KNOW IT'S NOT PROBABLY THE EXAMPLE, BUT, UM, THERE WAS A SINGLE STALL RESTROOM IN, UM, THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO THAT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS RECENTLY, UM, PROBABLY IN THE LAST YEAR CALLED, THEY CALLED IT TOILET GATE BECAUSE THEY WERE WONDERING WHY ONE TOILET, ONE SINK, WHY IT WAS COSTING A FEW MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO THIS PREFAB RESTROOM COMPANY ACTUALLY DONATED THEM A RESTROOM. OH, WOW. UM, TO, BECAUSE, AND THEY CITED ALL THE EXPENSES WITH, UM, BASICALLY STICK UP CONSTRUCTION. 'CAUSE YOU DO USE, UM, PREVAILING WAGE LABOR, UNION LABOR, ET CETERA. PREFAB, UM, IS EFFICIENT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE APPROVALS ARE DONE, UM, IN ADVANCE FOR IT. UM, YOU'RE REALLY JUST GETTING APPROVALS FOR BUILDING AND SAFETY APPROVALS FOR THE, UH, FOUNDATION IN THE CITY AND THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS. BUT ALL LIKE, UM, FORM WORK, UM, FRAMING, ALL OF THAT'S PRE-APPROVED AS PART OF THE PART OF STATE APPROVALS WHEN THEY, UM, CONSTRUCTED AND MANUFACTURE IT. UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. WHO IS THE GRANTOR DEBA DIVISION OF VOTING AND WATERWAYS? CALIFORNIA STATE, CORRECT. UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THEY WERE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THEY HAD THEIR WHOLE BOARD COME AND, AND WALK THE AREA AND, AND ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS ON SITE. YEAH. SO TODD WAS ABLE TO GIVE THEM A TOUR AND SATISFY ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. AND IS, IS THERE ANY, UM, CITY OF LONG BEACH FUNDING TIDELAND MONEY OR ANY OF OF THAT BEING USED FOR THIS? WE'RE, THERE'S ALREADY SOME, UM, CITY OF LONG BEACH TIDELAND FUNDING, I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND 750 OR 800,000. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNT WITH ME. AND THEN SOME CITY OF PUBLIC WORKS FUNDING RELATED TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY FOR THE REQUIRED EV CHARGERS SLASH THE REALLY THE COST ARE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ELECTRICAL UPGRADES. UM, IT'S ALWAYS USEFUL, I BELIEVE, FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD FINANCIALLY. SO IF THERE, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVISE US AS TO WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM, I REALLY WELCOME THAT INFORMATION ON THE DETAIL THAT YOU'RE GIVING US. UM, I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD AND HOW THEY'RE BEING FUNDED. SO, UM, IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO KNOW RESOURCING. YEAH, I THINK THIS ONE'S UNIQUE. I THINK MOST OF THE PROJECTS ON THIS LIST ARE FUNDED WITH TITLES FUNDS, RIGHT. EXCEPT THE, OUR COMMITTEE WITH THE, EXCEPT FOR LIKE THIS ONE, UM, THE IMPETUS AND SORT OF INCEPTION WAS WITH GRANT FUNDING. SO THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. I'LL ADD THAT DBA HAS VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION METHODS THAT IT'S TRUE THEY USE ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE THROUGH THESE BOAT LAUNCH RAMP FACILITIES. UH, SO THERE'S, IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC IN WHAT, WHAT THEIR FUNDS ARE USED FOR. YEAH. AND SO LIKE EVEN IF THE CONTRACTOR OR THE DESIGN ENGINEER MAY HAVE A CHEAPER METHOD, THEY WILL WANT THEIR DESIGN AND STANDARDS TO BE USED EVEN IF THERE'S A, A, A MORE OPTIMAL WAY TO DELIVER IT. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S BUILT INTO THEIR, LIKE COLIN WAS SAYING, THEIR UM, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. BOILER PLATE. THEIR BOILER PLATE. EXACTLY. UM, OH, SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS ON DAVIES BEFORE WE MOVE ON? SO WE'RE STILL, UM, TRYING TO, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT OTHER VE OPPORTUNITIES THERE MAY BE IN THE GROUNDWORK AND THE SURFACING WORK. UM, AND, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE NEWS, UM, IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS WHEN WE PRESENT TO YOU AGAIN, DO YOU HAVE AN OBJECTIVE INTO AS TO WHEN YOU WANT THIS [00:15:01] PROJECT COMPLETED? YOU KNOW, UM, BEFORE THE GRANT, UM, IDEALLY EXPIRES, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN TWO YEARS, UM, TYPICALLY THEY DO ALLOW US TO RENEW THAT AND EXTEND IT. BUT, UM, OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO COMPLETE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS BEFORE 2028. GOT IT. RIGHT. MARINA GREEN PARKING LOT. WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY 'CAUSE MY COLLEAGUE DJ WITH, UM, WILL BE, UM, PRESENTING ON THIS. UM, UM, SINCE, UM, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO YOU LAST TIME, THE PLANS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, UM, OUR TEAM MEMBERS ARE COORDINATING FINAL PLAN CHECK AND COORDINATING PRE-CONSTRUCTION START. UH, THE TARGET IS TO CONSTRUCT IN THE FALL AND BE OUT OF HERE BEFORE, UH, THE GRAND PRESEASON STARTS. AND THE MORATORIUM STARTS IN FEBRUARY OF 2025. UM, SO THIS ONE FOR FUNDING SOURCE IS SPLIT BETWEEN TIDELANDS AND MARINA FUNDS AS, UM, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THIS PARKING LOT IS FOR BOAT OWNERS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? I KNOW DJ WILL PROVIDE A FULL BRIEFING LATER, UM, PRIDE TOWER PLACE MAKING NOTES. SO THIS IS A $200,000 PRESENCE FUNDED PROJECT. UM, REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT IS TO CREATE A NODE NEAR THE EXISTING PRIDE TOWER, UM, AND TO CREATE MORE ACCESSIBLE ENHANCEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS AND, UM, ALLOW FOR A SPACE FOR INTERIM ACTIVATION OR PUBLIC ART ELEMENTS. UM, WE ARE VALUE ENGINEERING BECAUSE THE DESIGN WE HAD WAS JUST SLIGHTLY OVER BUDGET BEFORE. UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR, UM, FURNISHING AND PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURERS. THEY HAVE OTHER SITE FURNISHING OPTIONS THAT, UM, APPEAR TO BE CHEAPER. AND ONCE WE HAVE A REVISED DESIGN, UM, WE'LL BET THAT FOR COST AND DETERMINE, UM, CONSTRUCTION VIABILITY AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT OUR COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR IT. SO RIGHT NOW, NOT MUCH OF AN UPDATE ON THIS ONE, UM, BUT IT IS STILL ON OUR BOOKS AND WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT. UM, THOSE MOBY MATS HIT THE NEWS RECENTLY. OH, DID THEY? YEAH. THE NATIONAL NEWS, THERE WERE, THERE WAS A STORY THAT I READ, UH, THAT, UM, WAS BASED ON, UH, ACCESSIBILITY TO THE BEACH FOR FOLKS WHO DON'T NORMALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT ON THE SAND. AND IT WAS WRITTEN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WHO IS, UM, PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED. AND THIS OUR, THE CITY'S, UH, USE OF THESE WILL, UH, WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE STORY. SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD STORY. THAT'S, YEAH. NO, AND THANK YOU TO KELLY AND HIS TEAM AND COREY FOR, UM, ACTUALLY INSTALLING THOSE FOR US. WE DO HAVE, UM, THREE PERMITTED IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW. UM, THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH LOCATION, UM, FOR IT. UM, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD ARE, UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF INTERSECTIONALITY HERE. SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR FOLKS LIVING WITH DISABILITIES AND ARE PART OF THE L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY, UM, HAVE EXPRESSED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE TO HAVE THEIR CIVIL CEREMONIES HERE, THERE, IT, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW TO GET UP AND UP CLOSE TO THE TOWER WHERE SOME OF THOSE, UM, SPECIAL MOMENTS MAY HAPPEN. SO THAT'S REALLY, UM, KIND OF WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT IS AND TO JUST BUILD ACTIVATION AROUND IT AS WELL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER BARRY? NO. YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS FULL OF QUESTIONS, . YEAH, PLEASE FEEL FREE. UM, AND THEN I'LL TURN THIS PROJECT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE BEHIND ME, COLIN. YEAH. SO I'LL NEED BAY WATER QUALITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECT. UM, SAME SCOPE AS WE DISCUSSED. REPLACING THE POWER PLANT ONCE THROUGH COOLING PUMPS WITH A SEPARATE PUMPING SYSTEM, UM, THAT BYPASSES THE POWER PLANT OPERATION SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC CIRCULATION THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING IN ALAMITOS BAY FOR OVER 60 YEARS. UM, ACTUALLY WHEN WE WERE AT THIS BRIEFING THE LAST TIME, UM, I THINK THAT WAS JUNE 13TH, THAT'S WHEN WE HAD OUR VIRTUAL PUBLIC SCOPING MEETING FOR THE EIR PROCESS. SO THAT'S OCCURRED. UM, WE'RE MOVING ON THROUGH THE, THE DRAFT EIR PROCESS AND THAT'S BEING LED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UM, SO THE NEXT STEP ON THE, UH, IN THE EIR IS THAT DRAFT EIR, PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD. AND TO RECEIVE A, A NOTICE OF WHEN THAT COMMENT PERIOD STARTS, YOU CAN SIGN UP ON OUR, UH, WEBSITE TO GET, GET THAT NOTIFICATION. UM, AND OUR BUDGET REMAINS AT $1.9 MILLION TO SUPPORT OUR EIR PROCESS. AND, UM, PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND PERMITTING TASKS, WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO START? SO YOU CAN, UM, SIGN UP FOR A NOTICE ON THERE? WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE TO [00:20:01] SHARE. UM, THAT'S DEPENDENT ON THE VARIOUS STUDIES AND DOCUMENTS THAT THE EIR TEAM HAS TO PULL TOGETHER WITH OUR SURE. ALONGSIDE OUR PLANNING BUREAU. BUT AS WE SHARED IN OUR PROJECT UPDATE, TYPICALLY THE, THE DURATION OF THE EIR DOCUMENT FROM WHEN YOU RELEASE YOUR NOTICE OF PREPARATION ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FINAL FILING OF THAT DOCUMENT, IT CAN BE ABOUT A ONE YEAR PERIOD. SOMETIMES IT TAKES LONGER DEPENDING ON PROJECT TYPES AND CONSTRAINTS. UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE, THE OVERALL LIFESPAN OF THAT PRO PROCESS IS ABOUT A YEAR. UH, SO WE WOULD BE WITHIN THAT, SO MAYBE A YEAR FROM JUNE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE HOPE SOONER. BUT, UM, 'CAUSE THE DRAFT DIR WOULD BE THE NEXT DOCUMENT THAT'S RELEASED BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS AND TAKE THE NEXT STEPS TO ISSUE A FINALIZED DIR. WELL, THERE'LL BE MORE OPPORTUNITY WILL, THERE'LL BE OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS BESIDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AVAILABLE TO FOLKS WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE. SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY MORE PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY MEETINGS? SO THIS WILL, THIS WILL BE THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRACKING AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, THIS PROJECT IS THE ENTRANCE CHANNEL, UH, DREDGE AND PERMITTING. UM, THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP PROJECT WITH THE MARINE BUREAU. UM, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO, UM, DREDGE THE ENTRANCE CHANNEL TO IMPROVE NAVIGATION, BUT ALSO BENEFICIALLY REUSE THAT MATERIAL. OFTENTIMES DREDGE MATERIAL IS, UM, DISPOSED OFFSHORE OR DEPENDING ON ITS CONSTITUENCY, UM, TAKEN UPLAND, UM, TO LANDFILLS. BUT THIS MATERIAL HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE VIABLE, UM, AND A GOOD, UM, CHEMISTRY QUALITY. UM, SO THE AGENCIES HAVE APPROVED ITS, UM, DEPOSITION OR REUSE, BENEFICIAL REUSE AT PENINSULA BEACH. UM, THE VOLUMES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DREDGING IS AROUND 400,000 CUBIC YARDS. SO THAT WOULD BRING THE CHANNEL TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY DESIGN ELEVATIONS OR ORIGINAL PERMITTED ELEVATIONS. UM, RIGHT NOW THE PROJECT IS FUNDED, UM, WITH 1.2 MILLION IN, IN TIDELANDS FUNDS AND TIDELANDS MARINA FUNDS. UM, SO THE CONSTRUCTION ASPECT OF THE WORK IS NOT FUNDED YET. SO THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION THAT, UM, I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND OUR DIRECTORS WILL NEED TO HAVE ABOUT, UM, POTENTIALLY FUNDING THIS AND WHAT SOURCES OF FUNDING CAN CONTRIBUTE TO CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO IDENTIFY GRANT FUNDING SOURCES FOR NOURISHMENT PROJECTS THAT COULD HELP WITH THIS. UM, BUT RIGHT NOW OUR, OUR, OUR NEXT STEPS REALLY ARE TO SUBMIT PERMIT APPLICATIONS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UM, AND REALLY TO SUBMIT THEM BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO THEY'RE ALMOST THERE. UM, AND SO WE EXPECT ABOUT, UM, AN EIGHT TO 12 MONTH REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS. UM, THE AGENCIES HAVE INDICATED IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD IN TERMS OF WORK. UM, AND SO HOPEFULLY, UM, THE FUNDING AND THE PERMITTING CAN ALIGN TO HELP US, UM, GET THIS WORK UNDERWAY IN 20 25, 20 26. UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, SO THE, WE'RE SPLITTING THIS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S A PLANNING AND PERMITTING AND DESIGN PHASE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THAILAND'S FUNDS RIGHT NOW. YES. AND NOW THE SECOND PHASE WILL ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTION. SO WHEN YOU TALK CONSTRUCTION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL DREDGING CORRECT. OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT EACH NOURISHMENT OR TOGETHER? BOTH. BOTH. OKAY. WHEN CONSTRUCTION EFFORT, AND THAT IS, YEAH. AND THAT IS UNFUNDED. OKAY. SECOND PHASE IS GONNA BE DREDGING AND EACH NOURISHMENT. YEAH. SO IT'S, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, DESIGN, REGULATORY PERMITTING, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION. UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO PHASE CONSTRUCTION. UM, TYPICALLY WITH DREDGING YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DIG AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE FUNDING FOR, UM, WHICH IS OFTEN HOW WE'VE DONE OTHER PROJECTS, NOT HERE IN THE CITY, HOW I'VE DONE THEM ELSEWHERE. UM, BUT YES, THE IDEA IS TO MAXIMIZE, UM, MAXIMIZE THE, THE WORK IN ONE PHASE, UM, FOR ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND IDEALLY JUST DRUDGE ALL OF IT. BUT THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX AND 8 MILLION RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE COST FOR CUBIC YARD OF DREDGING. RIGHT. AND IT MAKES THE, THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S GOTTA HAPPEN CONTEMPORANEOUSLY, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . SO ONCE YOU DREDGE IT, IT'S GOTTA BE TOWED AROUND THEN. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BEACH NORMAN ALL AT THE SAME TIME, SO CORRECT. ALL THAT HAS TO BE LINED UP, RIGHT? YEAH. AND IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER FOR THE CITY TO ACTUALLY PLACE IT ON PENINSULA BEACH BECAUSE NORMALLY IN OTHER OH YEAH. AREAS YOU'RE BARGING IT OUT AND, AND TRANSPORTATION. YEAH. AND SO THAT IS [00:25:01] FUEL, THAT'S GAS. THAT'S, UM, UM, A LOT MORE TRIPS. UM, SO THIS IS NO, WHEN WE DID THAT ONE TEST WE PUT, PUT A HOSE OVER THERE AND SUCKED IT OFF ONE END AND DUMPED IT ON THE OTHER. WILL THAT BE SOMETHING SIMILAR? I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE, UM, ENGINEER OF RECORD, UH, ANCHOR QA IS PROPOSING. UM, SO WE'LL SEE HOW THE AGENCIES, UM, RESPOND TO THAT PROPOSAL. UM, AS YOU KNOW, IN LIKE CERTAIN OTHER PARTS OF THE, THE STATE THAT IS NOT ALLOWED, BUT HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS. SO, UM, THAT IS THE PLAN THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, A MEANS AND METHODS THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED BY A DREDGING EXPERT. AND SO, UM, AND THIS IS INTO THE FUTURE, RIGHT? OR INTO THE, MY QUESTION GOES TO ONCE WE ESTABLISH THE FACT THAT THE DREDGING CAN START AND THAT THE JUDGE MATERIAL IS THEN GOING TO BE MOVED ONTO THE BEACHES, THE NOURISHMENT PROJECT. MM-HMM. , UM, THE FIRST BIG SOUTHERN STORM IS GONNA START MOVING THAT SAND WEST. YES. WE ALREADY ALREADY KNOW THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME ANYWAY. MM-HMM. , UM, WITH A NOURISHMENT PROJECT, WE'RE EXPECTING A WIDE BARRIER BEACH. RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE, I MEAN, IN A PERFECT WORLD HOW FAR THAT BEACH COULD COME OUT WITH WHATEVER THE ANTICIPATED JUDGE MATERIAL IS? DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? WE DO. I DON'T HAVE THE GRAPHICS HERE. OKAY. BUT WE'VE, UM, UM, ESSENTIALLY DRAWN IN, IF WE DREDGE 100,000 CUBIC YARDS, HOW WIDE WILL THE BEACH BE NOURISHED BY 200,000, HOW WIDE WILL BE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE THOSE GRAPHICS, WE CAN EMAIL IT TO YOU AND SHARE IT. GREAT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT BECAUSE, AND THIS, AND THIS IS WHERE I COME FROM, WHICH IS THE NOTION OF, WELL, HOW ARE WE GONNA ANCHOR THAT SAND? HOW CAN WE POTENTIALLY ANCHOR BEACH SAND IN A, IN A MOVING ECOSYSTEM? RIGHT. UM, GIVEN OUR CURRENTS AND KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW THAT BEACH IS CONTINUALLY SCOURED, UM, COULD THERE BE AN INTRODUCTION OF A, UM, A DUNE RESTORATION PROJECT ON A VERY NEW WIDE BARRIER BEACH, WHICH ARE, UH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUBJECT OF PILOT, PILOT PROJECTS, TEST PROJECTS FOR, UM, BEACH, UM, I DON'T KNOW, PRESERVATION IN OTHER PARTS OF LOS ANGELES. COULD WE, COULD WE LOOK AT, COULD THE CITY OF LONG BEACH LOOK AT WAYS OF NOW PROJECTING FORWARD KNOWING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A BRAND NEW BEACH, CERTAINLY TOO NARROW NOW FOR ANY KIND OF RESTORATION, DOUNE RESTORATION, BUT COULD A DOUNE RESTORATION PROJECT BE INTRODUCED TO THIS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT? UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE TEAM AND JUST GENERALLY JUST DO OUTREACH AS WELL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MULTI, UM, PRONG APPROACH IS TO LIKE RETAIN SAND. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE TECHNICAL TEAM, SO THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER. THERE WAS A CONSTRAINT WITH PUTTING, UM, DUNES IN THIS AREA IN LIKE THE BREAK ZONE ESSENTIALLY. SO, UM, BUT WE'LL GET MORE DETAILS FOR WHAT THAT MIGHT POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE. UM, BUT DEFINITELY IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES AND CONSTRAINTS WITH PENINSULA BEACH AND, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NEW NEWS. I BELIEVE THE PREVIOUS REPORTS AND STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO ASSESS WHY SAND IS BEING LOST HERE, ESSENTIALLY INDICATED, UM, TO PRESERVE SAND, MAINTAIN IT, UM, NATURAL, UM, SOLUTIONS WERE NOT ENOUGH. LIKE IT REALLY NEEDS LIKE A GROIN OR LIKE SOME SOMETHING TO BREAK THE ENERGY OFFSHORE. SO, AND, AND I AM REALLY VERY INTERESTED KNOWING THAT THAT COULD, THAT WAS AN ASSESSMENT MADE ON A VERY, BASED ON A NARROW BEACH MM-HMM. , UM, AND CONTINUALLY SCOURED NARROW, NARROW BEACH. AND I'M SIMPLY THROWING THIS OUT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, WHAT IF THAT BEACH DOES COME OUT AND IS MUCH BROADER AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANCHOR OR, AND, AND THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHOLE DIFFERENT SUBJECT. BUT THE NOTION IS, IS THAT THESE ARE NOT EXPENSIVE PROJECTS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. IN THE TOOLBOX WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH SAND RETENTION AND, AND BEACH NOURISHMENT. UM, THESE ARE TEST PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN LOS ANGELES. THE BAY FOUNDATION, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS ON A VERY, VERY SLIM BUDGET WITH, UH, GRANTS AND STATE OF CALIFORNIA MONEY. SO JUST THROWING THIS OUT AT THE CITY, WE DO NEED TO STUDY PENINSULA BEACH AND YEAH. AND PRODUCE, UM, A REPORT AND UNDERSTAND, UM, BECAUSE I THINK AS, AS THE WEATHER PATTERNS PRESENT THEMSELVES AS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED LOSS ANDIT FUNDS, UM, [00:30:01] MAY CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AND DISCUSSION, UM, A, A A, A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT PENINSULA BEACH AS NEEDED. SO THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THAT. THAT WOULD BE VERY WELCOME. YEAH. AND JUST PROBABLY NOT THIS YEAR. OH. YOU KNOW, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT TOO. BUT THIS IS STILL A COUPLE YEARS OUT, I SUSPECT. AND IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WAYS OF ANCHORING THAT SAND AS WE MOVE AHEAD. YEAH. AND, AND THIS IS JUST 400,000 CUBIC YARDS TO GET THE Y BEACH. UM, THE ESTIMATES ARE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT LIKE ONE AND A HALF MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF SAND OR NEEDED. SO THIS WILL ONLY TAKE IT OUT SO FAR, LIKE WITH THE MATERIAL THAT'S IN THE CHANNEL, THERE HAS TO BE A HUGE IMPORT, UH, COMPONENT TO BUILD THAT LIKE REALLY WIDE BEACH THAT UH, COULD, COULD ACCOMMODATE LIKE SOME OF THOSE MOTION, YOU KNOW, IT'S NEVER LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF THE CORRECT. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A GOOD, UM, PRACTICAL EXAMPLE OF HOW A DUNE WOULD BEHAVE ON THAT BEACH. I KNOW THAT THE MARINE MAINTENANCE DIVISION MOVES SAND INTO BERMS ON THAT AREA, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A CONSTRUCTED DUNE. YES. UM, AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THOSE BERMS HAVE TO CONTINUALLY BE REBUILT SO THEY BEHAVE IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY TO THE SANDY BEACH WHERE IT CAN BE MOBILIZED, UM, BY THAT WAVE ENERGY AND CURRENTS. AND I, THE CHANNEL SHOULDN'T BE CLOSED OFF AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME DURING THE DREDGING PROCESS. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, I THINK THEY, THEY WOULD WORK AROUND IT. YEAH. IT'S NOT THE DR PLANES NEVER USUALLY THAT BIG. JUST CHECKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT, WHAT IS THE, THE DESIGN PERMIT IN CONTROLLING DEPTH FOR THAT GEM? TODD, DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I, IT'S ON THE PLAN, BUT I CAN'T SEE IT. IT'S, UH, MINUS 20 MEAN AND LOW LOW WATER. YEAH. MINUS 20 22 0. YEAH. FROM LOW LOWER. YEAH. IT'S MINUS 20 PLUS TWO OVER RIDGE. LET'S SEE, THAT'S, SORRY. IT'S SO SMALL. I CANNOT SEE IT. SO I THINK THERE, THERE IS THE OPTION FOR ANOTHER TWO FOOT OF OVER, OVER DRED. YEAH. SO MINUS 20 IS THE AUTHORIZED PERMITTED DEATH. AND THEN BECAUSE DREDGING IS NOT LIKE PUTTING A PIECE OF PAPER THINGS, TAKING CHOPS OUT OF IT, UM, THEY GIVE US LIKE A TWO FOOT BUFFER. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE, OH, WE HAVE TWO MORE PROJECTS ON THE LIST. WE HAVE THE BELMONT BEACH AQUATIC CENTER. UM, THIS PROJECT IS, UM, AS YOU KNOW, IN 2023, UM, IT UNDERWENT A KIND OF RE UM, A RELOOK OF WHAT THE DESIGN WAS TO BASICALLY VALUE ENGINEER IT AS WELL. UM, AND SINCE UM, WE'VE KIND OF STARTED THE DESIGN A REDESIGN PROCESS, WE'VE COMPLETED, UM, TWO PHASES OF DESIGN, SO SCHEMATIC, UM, AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING TO PRE-QUALIFY CONTRACTORS THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN BIDDING THE WORK. UM, THE GOAL IS REALLY TO BID THIS PROJECT, UM, AT THE START OF 2025. HOPEFULLY WE CAN PULL IT IN, UM, AND BID IT IN 2024. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S THE TARGET WE'RE LOOKING AT. UM, THE PREQUALIFICATIONS PROCESS IS JUST TO GET A MORE TALENTED POOL OF CONTRACTORS. UM, WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH OUR COASTAL PERMITTING AND THE LIST OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVALS THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING THE EQUITY AND PUBLIC ACCESS PLAN, UM, PRIMARILY, UM, AND, AND WORKING TO, UM, FILL THE FULL FUNDING STACK FOR IT. SO IT'S STILL, UM, WE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY LAST YEAR AND TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. IT WAS STILL VERY MUCH, UM, WE STILL HAD A FUNDING GAP, SO WE'RE WORKING TO CLOSE THAT FUNDING GAP RIGHT NOW. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, THIS IS THE PROJECT WE ADDED TO THE LIST. UM, THIS PROJECT, UM, IT'S CALLED THE CURB AND PATHWAY REPAIRS AND PUMP REPLACEMENT PROJECT. UM, COLLEAGUE KELLY ARMSTRONG ALREADY, I BELIEVE INSTALLED, UM, PLANS. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S MY COMPUTER OR I THINK THAT'S TODD'S COMPUTER. I THINK IT WAS. OKAY. UM, . SO, UM, THE PROJECT IS SEEKING TO IMPROVE THE CONDITION OF THE COPING AND CURBING ALONG THE PERIMETER OF RAINBOW LAGOON. SO WE HAVE THIS DEGRADED CONDITION THAT, UM, PERSISTS, UM, AROUND THE PROJECT SITE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND RIGHT NOW I THINK THIS REALLY IS CAUSE FOR FUTURE, UM, DETERIORATION IF THE, THE, IF THE CORROSION AND THE CONCRETE ISN'T TREATED OR REPAIRED [00:35:01] BECAUSE, UM, THE REBAR IS JUST CONTINUING TO RUST. AND SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL SEEK TO FIX THIS, UM, AND ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THE, UM, DAMAGED PATHWAYS AND SURFACING AROUND THE PERIMETER. FORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT HAVE BUDGET TO REDO ALL OF THE CONCRETE PATHWAYS. SO WE'RE, UM, TARGETING SELECTED AREAS THAT ARE IN THE WORST CONDITION WHERE THERE'S REBAR ON THE GROUND THAT'S POPPING UP OR WHERE THERE ARE BRICKS MISSING. AND, AND WHAT WAS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THAT? UM, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE DAMAGE? IT LOOKS RATTY ALONG THERE ALL THE WAY WITH IT. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. IT COULD HAVE BEEN JUST ORIGINAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION METHOD. IT'S NOT IN ALL AREAS, IT'S JUST IN SELECT. YEAH. IT'S AND YOU THINK IT'S NOT SWAN BOATS BANGING INTO IT? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I, IT PROBABLY IS JUST, UM, THERE THE AGING OF THE ROOT BAR AGING. YEAH. AND I THINK THE ORIGINAL DESIGN SOMETIMES WHEN, SOMETIMES WHEN THE REBARS TOO CLOSE TO THE NOSE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE CRACK AND THEN THAT CRACK LEADS TO LIKE WATER INTRUSION. SO, UM, SO THIS ONE UM, WILL BE INTERESTING 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE TO, UM, COORDINATE WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION WITH UM, KELLY'S TEAM AND BRIAN'S TEAM JUST TO ENSURE THAT, UM, WE'RE MINIMIZING, UM, IMPACTS TO THE WATER BODY. 'CAUSE IT IS A PROTECTED WATER BODY. THERE IS, IT'S CONSIDERED HABITAT FROM, BASED ON OUR PERMITS. SO WE DO HAVE TO LOWER THE VOLUME OF WATER TO CONDUCT THIS REPAIR. UM, WE HAVE 1.8 MILLION FOR BOTH SETS OF PROJECTS, THE CURB REPAIRS AND PATHWAY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS FOR THE PUMP REPLACEMENT. UM, WE DO HAVE OUR COASTAL PERMIT APPLICATION ALMOST READY TO GO IN ANTICIPATING TO SUBMIT THAT IF NOT THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR OUR PROJECTS LIST. UM, WHAT'S IT HABITATION FOR? EXCUSE ME? YOU SAID IT'S CONSIDERED HABITATION? OH YEAH. UM, FOR WHAT? THE SWAN BOATS ? NO, IT'S ACTUALLY YOU HAVE, UM, TITLE, UM, SALT WATER IN THIS LAGOON. SO IT'S, UM, PUMPED FROM ALAMEDOS, NOT ALAMEDOS FROM RAINBOW HARBOR. MM-HMM. IT CONNECTS THROUGH AN UNDERGROUND, UM, CONDUIT SYSTEM OR CHANNEL SYSTEM. AND THAT'S HOW THIS, UM, LAGOON IS CIRCULATED. SO WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, BELIEVE IN EITHER THE SIXTIES OR SEVENTIES, UM, UM, THEY MADE IT A, UH, A SALT WATER TITLED LAGOON. AND SO IT DOES HAVE HABITAT, IT DOES HAVE FISH, IT HAS, IT HAS SEA LIFE AND SWAN BOATS BEING RAISED IN THERE. YEAH. THEY GET IN SOMEHOW. YEAH. AND WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, ISSUES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, NOT OFTEN 'CAUSE I THINK PRM HAS BEEN DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB OF AERATING THE LAGOON IN THE LAST LIKE 10 PLUS YEARS. UM, BUT YEAH, IF THERE, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH, UM, ANY CIRCULATION SYSTEMS, WE SEE IT AND WE SMELL IT 'CAUSE THERE'S A SEA LINE IN THERE, BUT IT'S, UM, YEAH, IT'S CLASSIFIED AS HABITAT PER THE WATER BOARD AND PER COASTAL. AND HOW DEEP IS THE BULK FOR THAT? HOW DEEP IS, IS THE BULK, THE LAGOON AREA AROUND THE FARM? IT VARIES. UM, KELLY, DO YOU KNOW HOW DEEP, SIX 70 DEEP IN, IN ALL AREAS OR JUST DEEPEST AREAS? DEEPEST WOULD BE ABOUT SEVEN FEET. YEAH. AND SOME AREAS ARE SHALLOW, LIKE ONE TO TWO FEET IS WHAT I'VE SEEN. THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE MORE HABITAT AND THINGS. YEAH. UM, SO, UM, THAT WOULD CLOSE OUR PRESENTATION. UM, THANK YOU CHARLENE AND THANK YOU COLIN. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. UM, MOVE AHEAD WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS REPORT. SOME MOVE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE. RECEIVE IT BY THAT REPORT. ALL RIGHT. UM, NEXT IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION. TIDE LANDS CAPITAL PROJECTS SUBCOMMITTEE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO SPEAK AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE NO COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? [00:40:02] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING ITEM THAT'S COMING FORWARD IN THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION'S WAY OF DEALING WITH, UM, LOCAL COASTAL PLANS, UM, PRESENTED AND, YOU KNOW, PREPARED BY DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES UP IN THE CITY OF CALIFORNIA. UM, AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER AND HOW THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS MANAGING THIS, UM, WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE APPROACHES TO ADAPTATION PLANNING. WAS THAT ON ANYBODY'S RADAR AT THE CITY THIS WEEK? UM, IT WAS A SPECIAL HEARING ON THE 11TH AT THE COASTAL COMMISSION MEETING THIS WEEK. AND, UM, WARREN PARK, I BELIEVE. UM, IT'S INTERESTING STUFF. MM-HMM. DEALS WITH HOW LOCAL AGENCIES, UH, ARE, UH, OR ARE OR ARE NOT AMENDING THEIR LOCAL COASTAL PLANS, UH, TO DEAL WITH, UH, SEA LEVEL RISE, UM, AND EXISTING STRUCTURE ISSUES AND QUESTIONS, UM, FOR COASTAL COMMISSION CLINICS COMES TO ARMORING AREAS OF THE COAST. UM, THEY'RE INVITING COMMENT AND YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO GET MORE INVOLVED. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, REFLECTS ON THE WORK THAT THE CITY OF ALL BEACH IS DOING WITH COASTAL COMMISSION. WE DEFINITELY, UM, ARE GUIDED BY THE LCP IN THE CITY, BUT WE KNOW IT'S VERY DATED. UM, WE HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE PLANNING BUREAU WHO BASICALLY ARE THE, UM, WE'RE ALL THE STEWARDS OF THE COASTAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT THEY'RE, UM, IN CHARGE OF THE, UM, SPECIFIC PLANS IN THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PLANNING DOCUMENTS. SO WE'LL CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ON THEIR RADAR. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN SEND YOU WHAT THE LATEST WAS THAT CAME FORWARD. UM, AND IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT IN DEALING WITH, UM, ENCOURAGING AGENCIES, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, TO, UH, WORK ON UPDATING LOCAL COASTAL PLANS, WHICH WE KNOW IS VERY EXPENSIVE, VERY TIME RESOURCE INTENSIVE, ALL OF THIS. BUT THE NOTION OF HOW TO BE BETTER PREPARED, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO SEA LEVEL RISE QUESTIONS AND ARMORING QUESTIONS. RIGHT. I'LL PUT IT ON MY LIST TO SEND THAT OFF TO YOU. SURE. THANK YOU. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY ANNOUNCEMENT. UM, I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. OH, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. RICHARD KEVIN REED. REED. AND THERE IS A BLOOD DRIVE AT THE SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB THIS WEDNESDAY. UM, ALL DAY. YOU CAN MAKE A RESERVATION ONLINE, THE RED CROSS, USING THE CODE SB YACHT, UH, THEIR CHOICE OF CODE, NOT OURS. AND UH, THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO CALL MY WIFE ANDREA, ANDREA REED AND SHE CAN WRITE A RESERVATION DOWN. AND THAT'S 5 6 2 5 2 2 6 2 8 3. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, SEEING NO OTHER COMMENT AND PROVIDED WE HAVE NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, UM, I WOULD CONSIDER THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT WHATEVER THE TIME IS. 2 18 2 18. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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