* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] YEAH. HEREBY CALLING, UH, THE MAR ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO ORDER. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. TODD. COMMISSIONER MCCREARY? YES, I'M HERE. COMMISSIONER MARINO. HERE. COMMISSIONER CHAIR MURRAY HERE. YOU HAVE A COURT FILE. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAD THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING WERE DISTRIBUTED. I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR, UM, THEIR APPROVAL. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THERE ARE NO MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENT TO CONSULT, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE AS DISTRIBUTED. AND NOW WE HAVE OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM. WE'RE GONNA START DISCUSSING, UM, THE COMMISSION AGENDA. I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION, SO MOVE THERE. SECONDED BY BRUCE. UH, NO MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC PRESENT. SO, UH, ALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AND THAT TOTALLY PASSED. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO, UM, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OKAY. IN THE MEETING? I HAVE A COMMENT, NOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT. OKAY. SURE. MINUTE. IT SAID, UM, THAT WE HAD AN ATTENDANCE. IT WAS LIKE MCCRAY, MARINO, MURRAY. I SAID, GOD, YOU SOUND LIKE A LAW FIRM, . OH NO. IT'S MORE LIKE 3M , MY NEW CONSULTING GROUP. YOU GUYS WILL BE THE BRAIN DUST . THAT IN ITSELF IS A LITTLE CHALLENGING. UH, OKAY. UH, A, MR. LELAND HAS PREPARED A PROPOSED AGENDA AND LET'S START READING THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. UH, WE'LL START OUR MEETING WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PREVIOUS NOTES AND THEN ON TO THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THE THIRD DISTRICT COUNCIL'S REFERRAL OF NAMING THE NEW LIFEGUARD FACILITY. YOU PROBABLY SAW THERE WAS PRESS COVERAGE ON THAT AND MULTIPLE OUTLETS, AND IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THEY'VE BEEN REALLY TALKING ABOUT A LOT. AND THAT'S, IT'S NICE THAT IT GIVES US A CHANCE, UM, TO KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROGRAM. CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT SINCE THAT NO. IT'S PROGRAM HAS BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART. OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING THAT'S OCCURRED. UH, THIS CAME ALONG PRETTY SPEEDILY. UH, IT WAS A QUICK, UH, UM, RECOMMENDATION FROM CD THREE AND THEN, UH, A SOUP, THEY, THEY, THEY WANT TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO YEAH, WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, COUNCIL ITEM WAS LAST WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO MAC NEXT WEEK. AND THEN, UH, THE HOPE IS TO GET THIS TO THE GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE, UH, AS, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON IT AND PUSH IT THROUGH, UH, UH, OF INTERESTING NOTE, WHEN DICK MILLER HAD YOUR POSITION MM-HMM. , UH, CITY COUNCIL POLICY WAS NOT TO NAME ANY CITY FACILITY UNLESS SOMEONE WAS DEAD A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. SO TO HAVE THAT POLICY DIFFER WITH MR. FLYNN AND MR. MILLER MAKES IT FASCINATING. YES. AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE A POINT OF DISCUSSION. MORE THAN LIKELY WITH THE GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY OR GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS EFFICIENCY, IT IS NICE TO HAVE THEM ALIVE AND HERE AND BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM. AND ITS BEGINNING. AND I REMEMBER BECAUSE IT WAS MY CLASS OF KIDS, RIGHT, RIGHT. AND, OH, GO AHEAD. YEAH. WELL, THERE'S OTHER BUILDINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY YES. AND THEY'RE NAMED AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE ALIVE AND THERES PARTS AND ALL THAT STUFF. ABSOLUTELY. THAT WENT OUT BY POLICE SIDE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT'LL STAND UP AT ALL. NO. WELL, I, THE REASON IT'S COMING TO THE ADVISORY COMMISSION IS TO BUILD THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UH, AND TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT TO THE GOEC. UM, AND SO BASICALLY POSITIVE COMMENT COMING OUT OF THE ADVISORY COMMISSION, UH, THE MAC, IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL GOING INTO THAT PROCESS WITH THE JAMES. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I, I, I AND IT'S WONDERFUL. YEAH. UM, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, I WILL NOT BE AT THE MEETING, SO I MIGHT BE WRITING A LETTER OF SUPPORT OF THAT AND SEND IT TO YOU FOR THE PACKET. BLESS YOU. BLESS. THERE WAS A BUNCH OF DUST AS I CAUGHT UP ON THE SECOND STREET BRIDGE THERE. [00:05:01] THERE'RE WE DOING SOME LOAD. WE DOING THE MEDIAS THERE. YEAH. I'M LIKE A LOT GOING ON. YEAH. THANK, OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM TWO? NO, I HONESTLY, IT'S, IT IS A GREAT IDEA. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. TODD, CAN YOU BRIEF US ON THAT? YEAH. THIS IS A ONE AGAIN, UH, ONE OF OUR STANDARD FEE WAIVERS. THIS IS THE, UH, UH, ARMY, CALIFORNIA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD. UH, THEY DO THEIR WARRIOR COMPETITION. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A LEAD IN. THIS IS A AREA COMPETITION THAT LEADS INTO A REGIONAL THAT LEADS INTO THE STATEWIDE COMPETITION. AND THEY DO IT AT, UH, LARRY CURTIS, UH, UH, PARK. SO THIS IS, THIS IS STANDARD. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT EVERY YEAR FOR THEM. IT, IT SUPPORTS, UH, OUR MILITARY AND, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ACTIVE RECREATIONAL FITNESS USE OF THAT PARK. EASY TO ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? THERE IS LARRY. WHERE IS LARRY CURTIS PARK? UH, IT'S WHERE THE, UM, THE, UH, CON, WELL, NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S WHERE THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK ARE AT, AT MARINA VISTA. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THE OTHER SIDE OF ROGERS MIDDY PARK. MM-HMM. . ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE FEE WAIVER? NO, MA'AM. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR. SO, PRESENTATION. YEAH. WELL, I, I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED FOR THIS ONE. UH, IT'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMING OVER. UM, UH, CARLENE HUWA, UH, WILL BE PRESENTING CARLENE CARLENE, HUA, UH, SHE WILL, UH, BE, UH, MAKING A PRESENTATION ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR DOWNTOWN SHORELINE AREA. VISIONING PROCESS OR VISIONING. JUST VISIONING. UH, AND I'VE KIND OF HAD A SNEAK PEEK OF IT. AND IT IS, IT'S IN DEPTH. IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE. UM, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU GUYS HAVING OPINIONS AND, AND COMMENTS ON WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE AT SO FAR. UH, THEY DO HAVE A COMMUNITY GROUP THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, STAKEHOLDERS GROUP. WE DO HAVE BOATERS ON THAT STAKE, UH, STAKE. OH, GOOD. GOOD. FROM SHORELINE. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT 'CAUSE I OFTEN FEAR WE'RE NOT HEARING THEIR VOICE ENOUGH. EXACTLY. SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING PRESENTATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR GUYS' COMMENTS ALREADY. AND WILL WE HAVE THEIR POWERPOINT CHARTS IN OUR PACKET? YEAH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SUBMITTED YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY. OKAY. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING ONE. SO WOULD, WOULD THAT DOWN THERE AND YOU KNOW, THE QUEEN MARY, WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUEEN MARY. CORRECT? CORRECT. NOTHING AROUND THE AREA. UH, HARRY BRIDGES, HARRY BRIDGES PARK, UH, WE'RE IN CHARGE OF, UH, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, AND THEN WE HAVE AND GO FOR REMOVAL. YEAH. AND THEN WE HAVE SOUTH SHORE LAUNCH SHIP. SO IT'S, IT'S BECOME A SPECIAL EVENTS AREA, BUT WE TAKE CARE OF LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND MAINTENANCE. THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE BIDS IN AND STUFF FOR THE NEW BOWL. CORRECT. AND WE HAVE NO, IT'S NEVER BEEN, BEEN BROUGHT TO US. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLAY IN THAT. EVEN THOUGH THE NOISE GENERATED FROM THAT BULL WILL DEFINITELY AFFECT ALL THE TENANTS ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT IN OUR AREA. THEY'RE DOING THE TEMPORARY ONE IN THE PARKING LOT. RIGHT. SO THAT IS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SPECIAL EVENTS. UM, WILL THEY HAND THAT OVER? WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE WHEN, IF, WHEN THEY WORK TO DO THE, THE PERMANENT ONE? YES. AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO PUBLIC WORKS. I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UH, WHEN THEY GET A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE, THE PROCESS OF THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, UH, THEY'LL BRING A PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS FORWARD. OKAY. YEAH. UH, BUT YEAH, RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIAL. THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S IN THE QUEEN BERRY PARKING LOT, IT DOESN'T TOUCH ANY OF OUR, WELL, THE BID PROCESS HAS ALREADY GONE OUT TO NOT FOR THE TEMPORARY, FOR A PERMANENT. UM, PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK WITH THEIR IDEAS. WHY I KNOW SIX OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUTTING THE BID IN, AND I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT IT DOESN'T COME TO OUR ATTENTION. THEY CALL ME, WANTED ME TO BE THEIR LOBBYIST ON, I'M JUST GUYS. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. DADDY'S TAKING A FEW MONTHS OFF AND I DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA BE A PART OF THAT ONE. I'M JUST, MY ONLY CONCERN ON A TEMPORARY SIDE IS THAT WE ALREADY HEAR SOME OF THE DOCK OWNERS AND THE BOAT OWNERS THAT ARE LIV BOARDS COMPLAINING ABOUT SOME OF THE NOISE WHEN THEY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONE OF THE PARKS DOWN THERE, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE UNDER OUR JURISDICTION, IS THE ONE WITH THE, UH, UM, THE MARIJUANA, UH, PARTY THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING. YEAH. UM, WE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT ONE YET? 'CAUSE THAT'S STRICTLY A MARIJUANA PARTY. THAT POINT. IT'S NOT HAPPENING AT THE MARINA GREEN THAT WAS HAPPENING OVER AT AGAIN, [00:10:01] IT'S HAPPENING OVER BY THE QUEEN MARY. RIGHT. IT IS THAT, I THOUGHT IT WAS MARINA GREEN. I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE ON THE GREEN BELT. I NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE. UH, I GOTTA GET BACK TO YOU GUYS ON THAT ONE. YEAH, JUST CHECK. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, SO ARE YOU CONCERNED ENOUGH ABOUT THE, THE BULL THAT YOU WANNA EXPAND UPON SOMETHING ON THAT AGENDA ITEM SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT, I JUST LIKE, YEAH. I JUST LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, END UP WITH A LETTER THAT GOES TO PUBLIC WORKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SAYING YOU WANNA BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS MORE. YES OR YES. I THINK WE SHOULD BE JUST IN REGARDS TO THE NOISE VERIFICATIONS AND THE NOISE ALLOWANCE, UM, THAT THAT'LL HAVE, LORD KNOWS SEAL BEACH HAD A CONNIPTION WITH THE, THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE PARKING LOT HERE AT THE END OF THE MARINA VIBES ON THE BED. OH. OH, WOW. I MEAN, THEN I ASK 'EM, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET MY NUMBER, BUT I GUESS I'M OUT THERE AND I'M JUST GOING, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WELL, RIGHT OVER HERE IN SILL BEACH. I WENT, OH YEAH. I'M LONG BEACH. I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF LONG BEACH LA LA . OKAY. SO ANYTHING MORE ON THE SHORELINE VISION PLAN? AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER WE GET THAT BRIEFLY IN ADVANCE. YES, WE WILL. AND BE ABLE TO THINK THINGS ON THAT. MM-HMM. . UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE, THE NDA GARDEN PROGRAM. THIS ONE'S ANOTHER ONE I'M EXCITED ABOUT. THIS IS, UH, KELLY ARMSTRONG, UH, HIM AND HIS, UH, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE CREW, OR SPEARHEADING THIS, UH, THEY'RE WORKING WITH LB UTILITIES AS WELL AS, UH, THE SURF RIDER FOUNDATION TO TRANSFORM, UM, AREAS IN OUR FOOTPRINT THAT ARE NON RECREATIONAL LAWN SPACE TO GARDEN AND WATER RETENTION SPACES. UH, THIS IS A, WE'RE JUMPING AHEAD OF A STATE. IT'S EITHER ASSEMBLY BILL OR A SENATE BILL. AND I ALWAYS GET CONFUSED AT , BUT, UH, IT'S A STATE REGULATION, UH, THAT CITIES, COUNTIES, AND AREAS THROUGHOUT THE STATE NEED TO TRANSITION THEIR NON RECREATIONAL LAWN SPACE TO WATER RETENTION OR GARDEN SPACE, UH, OVER THE NEXT FIVE, 10 YEARS. SO WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF IT. WE'RE WORKING WITH PARTNERS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY INTO THIS WITH CONSERVATION OF WATER. UH, SO YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A, A, I THINK, A PRETTY GOOD PRESENTATION FROM, UH, KELLY. I, I THINK WE WILL HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLANT PALLET AND, UM, AND WHO, WHOSE EXPERTISE THAT WE'RE USING. YEAH. UH, SO PLEASE GIVE KELLY A HEADS UP ABSOLUTELY. THAT IT'S, IT'S LOTS OF HOMEWORK ON HIS SIDE. YEAH. IF IT'S ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, UH, THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING WITH THE CIP PLANT PALLET. RIGHT. AND THAT TO REALLY, AND, AND EVEN IF WE NEED THAT PLANT PALLET AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE MAC PACKET, JUST SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION AND, UM, WE CAN LIMIT ANY CONFLICT THERE. AND WATER, WATER RETENTION, UH, SHE, WATER RETENTION GARDEN. I ALWAYS THINK A GARDEN. I'M THINKING CARROTS. I MEAN, THAT'S, I MEAN, LITERALLY, I MEAN, UNLESS THIS IS THE GREGOR HUH. UNLESS IT'S POINTED OUT I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M PLANTING A GARDEN AND IT'S GONNA BE CARROTS AND PUMP AND ALL THAT STUFF. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD STATE. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S NOT A GARDEN. IT IS A, UH, UH, A PLANT RETENTION OR A, UM, WHATEVER THE PALLET OF PLANTS. WELL, I AM NOTICING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, MORE OF THE CENTER DIVIDERS ARE BEING LANDSCAPED AND, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF A HEADACHE ARE WE BUYING DOWN THE ROAD OF MAINTENANCE? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANNA HAVE SLOW GROWTH, RIGHT. THAT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T REQUIRE IRRIGATION AND REPLACING THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A LOT OF EXPENSES DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH. SO THE, THE GOAL IS EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS NUMBER ONE, DROUGHT TOLERANT. SO CALIFORNIA NATIVE AND SLOW GROW. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TRIMMING. YEAH, EXACTLY. MAYBE IF WE JUST PUT THAT IN, THAT'LL JUST DROUGHT TOLERANT GARDEN. JUST SO IT'S NOT A, A GARDEN. WELL, THE, THE LAWN GARDEN PROGRAM. LAWN GARDEN, THAT'S THE NAME OF THE PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S BEEN A LONG ESTABLISHED. HAS IT REALLY SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW. OKAY. UH, I TALKED TO PAST CHAIRMAN COLIN KELLY ABOUT THE INFLUX OF, UM, PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS, UM, AND, AND ASKED HIM HOW, WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMISSION TO BE SMARTER ON SOME OF THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, YOU HAVE PRAS AND PRAS. I MEAN, AS THEY COME IN, THEY COME IN, WE, UM, AND, AND HE THOUGHT WHAT MIGHT EXPEDITE IS SOME OF THIS STUFF COMING QUICKER FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION JUST ON ITS OWN. YEAH. AND THEN THAT MAYBE WILL QUELL SOME OF THOSE [00:15:01] REQUESTS. YEAH. WE CAN KIND OF A RISK MITIGATION THING. YEAH. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE REQUESTS? WELL, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, QUESTIONING IN KELLY'S ORGANIZATION ABOUT THE, THE BLUFFS AND THE MAINTENANCE AND THE, THE REPORTING THAT'S TAKING PLACE. UM, AND HE'S BEEN RESPONDING QUICKLY TO THOSE. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A, A, A STOPWATCH ON THE TIME WHEN YOU, FROM THE TIME YOU GET THE REQUEST TILL YOU HAVE TO COME WITH A RESPONSE. THEY, THEY, THEY, AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS AND THERE'S, YOU'RE INVOLVING A LOT MORE PEOPLE TOUCHING IT. RIGHT. THEN YOU COULD, IF KELLY ADDED IT TO A PACKET. YEAH. WELL, THERE'S THE PRA REQUEST, WHILE YES, IT IS A, A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS AT TIMES. UH, BUT IT ALSO PROTECTS CITY STAFF AND IT PRO PROTECTS THE REQUESTER AS WELL. SO A PRA IS A PA, IT'S, IT'S THE LAW. WHEN THEY COME IN AND WE SEND OUT THE INFORMATION, UH, WE WILL GIVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN FREELY, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST BEST TO GO WITH THE PRA ROUTE. OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GIVING TO THE PUBLIC TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND THEN IT'S GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC. BUT I, I THINK YOU STILL HAVE THAT OPTION TO HAVE THOSE THINGS REVIEWED WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT REQUEST PROCESS. AND IT WAS JUST PAST COMMISSIONER KELLY'S RECOMMENDATION TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS YOU COULD. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE ARE, AND WE, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. BUT AGAIN, I'M ALWAYS GONNA ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. AND WHEN IT COMES TO RECORDS REQUESTS, IF IT'S INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T READILY GIVE OUT TO THE PUBLIC, IT SHOULD GO THROUGH. RIGHT. OKAY. BUT, BUT SOME OF THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. SO IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S JUST THE, THE TIME, UH, COMING FROM A VERY LARGE ORGANIZATION, UH, WE HAD, UH, UM, A REQUEST FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR AN ITEM, AND THEY HAD FOUR DAYS TO DO IT. IMPOSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND THEN WE HAD TO GO TO COURT ON THAT, AND IT WAS THIS BLANKET THAT, THAT ONE GROUP WAS TRYING TO BASICALLY STALL, UM, ALL PRODUCTIVITY FROM OUR MANAGEMENT PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT ALL CAME IN AT ONE TIME. YEAH. 50,000 REQUESTS. AND THEY CAN DO THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT LAWYERS DO, AND THAT'S WHAT LAWYERS CAN DO. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BE WARY OF. AND I'M TRYING TO AVOID THAT EXACTLY BY BEING, BY SAYING WE'RE TRANSPARENT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH. WE'RE PROUD OF OUR REPORTING. WE'RE PROUD OF EVERYTHING. SO THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE DIDN'T PUT THAT ALREADY IN A, A REGULAR REPORT. YEAH. SO THERE ISN'T A CITIZEN OUT THERE THAT SAYS, OH, I I GOT THIS DATA . WELL, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE THING IS, IS YEAH. WELL, WE, WE TRY TO, LIKE I SAID, WE TRY TO GIVE UP THE INFORMATION THAT THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC READILY. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH, WITH A A, A BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP THAT IS SURROUNDED WITH A CONTRACT, USUALLY WE'RE GONNA GO THE PROCESS OF A PRA, JUST TWO. IT'S THE SAME THING IN FIRE. WE HAVE SO MANY OF THEM. AND WELL, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE, UM, PUT OUT THERE THOUGH IN A SANITIZED NATURE THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THE VENDOR THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT MORE GENERIC. AND WHEN YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF IT AND PUTTING IT OUT, AND IT'S NOT COMING THROUGH A PUBLIC REQUEST, I THINK YOU'VE GOT MORE CONTROL. AND IT, IT'S PUTTING YOU IN A BETTER SITUATION. RIGHT. IT'S JUST HARD TO BALANCE. RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S A HARD BALANCE. AND, BUT, BUT CONSIDER THAT IN ANY OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHERE YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF THOSE REQUESTS TO SEE WHERE WE CAN JUST BE PROACTIVE AND START GIVING SOME OF THAT DATA THAT WE HAVE READILY AVAILABLE OR WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I, WE, WE SHARE WHAT WE CAN SHARE AND THE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT READILY SHARE. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PRA PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE WILL GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M THINKING OF THAT, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN. YEAH. WE GET A LOT. AND THEN, AND, AND, AND THEN CITIZENS WILL HAVE ONE, AND THEN THEY'LL SEND ME THE DATA THEY GOT AND IT'S JUST LIKE, DON'T CLOG MY EMAIL. HIRING MORE STAFF IN OUR YEAH. IS THAT NOT RIDICULOUS ENOUGH JUST FOR THAT WHEN, WHEN WE COULD HAVE THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE ON THE LINE. RIGHT. BUT THE PROCESS IS THERE AND IT'S THERE TO PROTECT THE CITY. AND, AND THESE DAYS IT'S JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT PLAN? OH, LAWN GARDEN, I MEAN, NO. YEAH. LAWN GARDEN. NOPE. OKAY. ANYTHING SPECIAL IN YOUR MANAGER'S UPDATES? WE'LL HEAR ABOUT, UM, WE HAD, UH, WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF IT, LIKE GOING [00:20:01] ON THE LAST COUPLE DAYS. WE HAVE A GREAT, UH, JELLYFISH BOUGHT, UH, MEDIA BLITZ. SAW THAT I SAW A, A CITY EMPLOYEE. . YEAH. I'D LIKE TO, I'LL BE ON THE RADIO I THINK TODAY, UH, OR TOMORROW. AND THEN, UH, I BELIEVE HE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ON SPECTRUM NEWS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. SO, UM, KUDOS TO BRIAN FOR SPEARHEADING THIS. UH, THIS IS HIS BABY WITH, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THE YOUTH INVOLVEMENT YEP. AND THE NAMING, BRINGING IN THE AQUARIUM, THE NATURE CENTER. SO HE REALLY EXCITED FOR HIM TO KIND OF SEE THIS THROUGH, UM, AND, AND GET THE, AND, AND HE KIND OF CASUALLY ANNOUNCED IT AT THE END OF OUR LAST MAC MM-HMM. . THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE HAD THAT MORE OF PART OF HIS REPORT INSTEAD OF THE CASUAL AFTERWARD. WELL, YOU, IT'S SOMETIMES YOU'RE LIKE, OH, HEY, THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PUT IT OUT THERE AND IT, IT GETS OKAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS. BUT THEN SOMETIMES YOU PUT OUT THE, THE EXACT SAME THING, AND THEN IT JUST HAS THIS GIANT STEAM STEAMROLL OF A MEDIA BLITZ. AND THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF FOUND OURSELVES IN. SO, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT. IT'S, UH, IT'S CATCHING ON, UH, MAYOR'S AWARE OF IT, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEAH. I'M, I'M READY TO PUT EYES ON IT. RIGHT. . UM, WHAT WE'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE, UH, I'LL HAVE BRIAN BRING OH, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. TO, TO THE MEETINGS TO COME VISIT. YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT THEN. COOL. YEAH. AND THEN MAYBE AFTER THE MEETING, WE PUT IT IN THE WATER. OOH. SEE YOU GUYS, UH, KIND OF CONTROL SOME OF THAT. YEAH. AND WHAT DOES IT DO? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT? SO IT'S, IT'S AN AUTOMATED DEBRIS REMOVAL SYSTEM. AND IT'S TWO, IT'S A SKIMMER. IT'S TWO TWO PONTOONS LARGE CENTER SET, UH, UNDERBODY SECTION. CAN I, YEAH. RIGHT. I JUST SAW THIS LITTLE THING THAT THEY HAD IN THE WATER, AND I'M LIKE GOING, WHAT IS THAT GONNA CLEAN UP? RIGHT. BUT SO WE HAVE THE LARGER EQUIPMENT THAT GOES THROUGH WITH THE SKIMMER BOATS, AND YOU HAVE STAFF MEMBER AT LEAST TWO, THREE STAFF MEMBERS ON IT. WHAT WE NEED IS SOMETHING THAT CAN GET BETWEEN BOATS AND THE SLIP FAIR. GOT IT. SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET BEHIND THE DOCKS BETWEEN THE DOCK AND THE SEA WALL. SO THIS IS GONNA BE, SO IT'S A ROOMBA. YEAH, PRETTY MUCH. YEAH. AND IT, AND PER PER MISSION, IT CAN DO ABOUT A HUNDRED POUNDS A DEGREE. REALLY? YEAH. SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. UH, GREAT LOCATION FOR, IT'S GONNA BE RAINBOW HARBOR, UH, UH, RAINBOW MARINA, UM, OVER HERE, BACK OVER IN BASIN, UH, BASIN TWO AND BASIN THREE AS THE WATER KIND OF SETTLES BACK THERE. UM, YEAH. SO, SO I KNOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK WHERE HE IS. MM-HMM. . IS THERE A WAY THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL CAN FIND OUT? SO IF THEY WANNA SEE HIM IN ACTION, I'LL HAVE TO ASK BRIAN A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. DOES HAVE, DOES HAVE GPS, UM, I HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PROGRAM. OH, WELL, MAYBE EVEN FOR THE NEXT ITERATION. YEAH. TO, SO MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC COULD GO ONLINE AND, AND SEE WHERE HE WAS CLEANING. JUST LIKE YOU COULD FIND WHERE A JET'S AT IN THE SKY, YOU KNOW, YOU FOLLOW TO THE AIRPORT, HAVING THAT, WHERE IS THE LITTLE GUY AT? YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF METRICS TO COLLECT ON TRASH PICKED UP AND, UM, HOURS SERVED AND YADA, YADA, YADA. JUST SO THAT PERFORMANCE AT THE END, WE CAN REALLY, SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER LINE IN OUR MARINA READER RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE OUR, UH, BEACH DEBRIS, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR DIPPING BY HAND. WE'LL HAVE OUR ARUBA, YOU KNOW, OR JELLYFISH YEAH. WITH HIS NEW NAME. STATISTICS. YEAH. SUPER EXCITED. IS THERE GONNA BE ANYTHING SPECIAL IN YOUR REPORT? UM, POSSIBLY. WE, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR LIFEGUARDS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR A VERY LARGE AWARD AT THE UNITED STATES LIFEGUARD ASSOCIATION. GREAT. THEY, SO LIKE ONE CANDIDATE OUT OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, AND, UH, THAT SHE'S NOT A COMMISSIONER, IS SHE? UH, NO. , BUT, UM, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED AT A-U-S-L-A CONFERENCE IN HAWAII, TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER. SO, UH, THAT'D BE A PRETTY BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. OH, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. YEAH. SO, AND THERE WASN'T ONE OF YOUR GUYS, JAMIE, IN AN ACCIDENT, A PCH. AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU, YOU LET THE EYES THAT YOU DON'T WOW. I READ YOUR EYES. I KNOW YOU YOU TAUGHT A LOT. OKAY. THERE, ANYBODY, ANY OTHER SPECIAL THINGS THAT'LL COME FORWARD IN THE, UM, REPORT FROM YOUR OFFICE? UH, JELLYFISH LOT WITH BRIAN. UH, COREY, UH, WE'RE JUST FINISHING UP THE UBUNTU PARKING LOT OVER BY COLORADO RETRIED, UH, UH, SLURRY SEAL. SO THAT'S A, YEAH, IT'S LOOKING GOOD. YEAH. I PARKED THERE [00:25:01] BECAUSE I'M INVOLVED WITH THE CONSERVATION COURT, RIGHT. MM-HMM. . RIGHT. SO, UH, WE DID THAT. UM, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF WORK DONE. PUBLIC WORKS, UH, ALONG MARINA DRIVE. SAW THAT. YEAH. THEY'RE, UH, COMING OUT TO, UH, UH, SLURRING SLU. THEY WERE BY THE, UH, YACHT CLUB AND SEA SCOUT BASE. SO THAT'LL BE DONE PRETTY SOON BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, THEY'RE THEY'RE CLEANING IT NOW. THEY'RE AWFUL QUICK. YEAH. THEY GET A LOT DONE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THEY HAVE A NEW CREW. UH, THEY'VE BUILT OUT A NEW, NEW, UM, IS IT A DIVISION? I THINK IT'S DIVISION. UM, AND IT'S JUST TO DO STREET REPAIRS, CONCRETE REPAIRS. IT'S, UH, LED BY ROB B UH, GREAT GUY GO GETTER. UH, HE LIKES TO GET THINGS DONE. UH, SO ANYTIME YOU SEE THAT STUFF IN OUR FOOTPRINT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS PRESENCE OF, UH, FIXING ROADS OR FIXING ANYTHING CONCRETE, THAT'S HIM AND HIS GUYS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL OF OUR FORMER EMPLOYEES FROM MAINTENANCE ON HIS CREW. OH, REALLY? SO EVERY TIME I'M LIKE, WAVING , YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE GOT THIS. SO SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THEM AND THAT THEY, THEY'RE CITYWIDE NOT JUST IN OUR FOOTPRINT, BUT, UH, ROB FEE AND DREW ARE JUST ATTACKING THE STREETS TRAFFIC IN, IN, IN WATCHING THE, THE WATCHING THE TRAFFIC, UH, UH, TWO TIMES A DAY. UH, JUST THE PCH IN SECOND STREET. AND I KNOW WE'RE EXPANDING THAT. I BELIEVE FIVE GUYS IS GONE NOW, OR SOMEBODY SAID FIVE GUYS IS UH OH. YEAH. GONE OUT OF THINGS. SO THAT'S GONNA BE COMING TO FRUITION. ARE THEY LOOKING AT A TRAFFIC STUDY THERE? I KNOW THEY GOT THE LIGHTS UP, BUT THE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE THERE CURRENTLY SUCKS. SO THOSE CARS COME AROUND ON PCH AND GO TO SECOND STREET YEAH. AND BLOCK OFF ALL THOSE OTHER CARS MOVING. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE LAW. AND THEN THAT TRAFFIC NOW ONLY HAS HALF THE TIME TO MOVE THE VEHICLES ACROSS WHEN THAT CLEARS OFF. I JUST THINK THAT'S JUST, SO YOU'RE TALKING AT THE CORNER, BASICALLY. PCH AND WESTMINSTER, PCH AND SECOND STREET. OKAY. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING VIA THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, VAN D**E IS THIS CAME FROM A INPUT WITH CD THREE, IS THAT THEY'RE UPDATING SOME, NO, DON'T TAKE ME A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THIS, BUT THEY'RE UPDATING SOMETHING IN THE LIGHT MECHANISMS AT THAT SPECIFIC AREA TO HELP ALLEVIATE THOSE TRAFFIC CONCESSION CONGESTION ISSUES. UM, THEY HAVE IT AT OTHER PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE IT SYNCHRONIZES, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . AND, AND IT ALLOWS FOR SMOOTH A PLATOON OF CARS TO GO THROUGH. YEAH. YEAH. WHERE RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT IN PLACE AT THAT LOCATION. RIGHT. BUT IT'S COMMON. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. UM, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A TIME TIMELINE FOR IT, BUT I, I JUST, THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY PART OF OUR FOOTPRINT, BUT IT IS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC AFFECTS EVERYBODY THAT'S, UH, DEALING HERE. UH, ARE WE GONNA HEAR ANY ? I ALWAYS SAY IT. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE GOT TWO OF THEM OUT THERE. ONE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL WOMAN WHO'S VERY, VERY PROACTIVE IS SAYING, HEY, SHE WILL HELP PAY FOR, UH, UM, THE BUOYS, UH, THE LIGHTS ON TOP OF OH YEAH. NO, NO, NO. I TALKED TO, UH, TALKED TO COREY. WE JUST STARTED OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR ON TUESDAY. YEAH. UH, SO WE WE'RE WORKING TO GET OUR, UH, OUR PURCHASE ORDERS AND STUFF IN PLACE. GREAT. MM-HMM. . BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ALL OF THESE, UH, WIFI MILE HOUR BUOYS RIGHT. TURNING BASE. WE WANT TO, UH, GET THEM ALL LIKE THE, THE PILOT SOLAR THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE. GREAT. SO WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE. AND THEN OUR GOAL IS TO, WE HAVEN'T MADE UP OUR MIND JUST YET. WE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF MEDINA AND HIS STAFF IS THE MOTHER'S BEACH SWIM LINE OR THE BAYSHORE SWIM LINE, UH, TO ADDRESS ONE OF THOSE WITH, UH, UH, ILLUMINATED SOLAR BOOTS AS WELL. BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE AT THOSE TWO LOCATIONS IS BOATERS AT NIGHT, THEY ACTUALLY RUN INTO THE SWIM LINE. YEP. YEAH. DON'T POINT AT ME. I DIDN'T RUN INTO IT. IT WASN'T ME. . YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE DUFFY THAT CAN'T SPOT MOW IT. IT WAS SOMEBODY ON A DUFFY AND THEN IT HAPPENED TO BE MY DUFFY. IT COULD HAVE BEEN, BUT I WASN'T DRIVING IT. . BUT WHAT IT DOES IS, WHEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY GET CAUGHT UP, THEIR PROP GETS CAUGHT UP AND THE SWIM LINE. YEAH. IT TAKES CHIEF MENEZ RESCUE BOATS OUT OF SERVICE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO ASSIST. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS IF IT'S REALLY IN THERE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO CUT IT. YEAH. SO THAT IT REQUIRES OUR MARINE MAINTENANCE STAFF TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND REPAIR AND REPLACE. I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THE SOLAR AND CHRISTMAS TREES. WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE GREAT. MAYBE WE PUT 'EM OUT EARLIER. NO, I'M KIDDING. AND STUFF. SO YOU JUST DID A NICE TRANSITION ONTO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE REPORTS. AND ONE OF 'EM IS [00:30:01] TREES IN THE BAY WITH A, UM, FUNDING ON THAT. SO, UM, I KNOW WE HAVE TREES IN THE BAY, YOU'LL WANNA GIVE A REPORT ON. AND I KNOW THE, UM, UH, THE SURF, UH, FOLKS HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR THE, UM, YEAH. WE SHOULD DO A AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM ON THERE. JUST, UH, WELL, THIS IS A COMMITTEE REPORT, RIGHT. SO WE KNOW THAT, UM, THEY'LL GIVE STATUS ON WHERE THEY ARE. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON WITH THE BLUFFS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR ON. UM, SO THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE REPORTS THAT WE MM-HMM. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A COMMITTEE, WE HAD AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE, THE SB 1137 WAS 1137. THE, THE OIL. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO BACK. THAT'S ME. GO AHEAD. . JUST, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS YOU TO SUPPORT MAYOR RICHARDSON'S SEVEN POINTS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH. UH, THAT WAS WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE, WAS THE, UH, UH, LETTER TO COUNCIL TO SUPPORT. YES. RICHARDSON'S. OKAY. SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE, I THINK WE, THAT, I BELIEVE THAT THAT COMMITTEE'S DONE WITH THEIR WORK AND COMPLETE, BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE AND WANNA GIVE A REPORT OR PURSUE ANYTHING THROUGH NO, IT WAS JUST ME AND ELIZABETH. RIGHT. AND WE JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT WHAT THE MAYOR WAS DOING, LOOKED AT WHAT HE WAS ADDRESSING AND HOW HE WAS PROPOSING TO BRING IN OTHER REVENUE GENERATING, UM, UH, ECONOMIC TYPE PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF, OF, UM, ENTERTAINMENT, IN TERMS OF RECREATION DESTINATION AS A TOURIST. AND THEN, UM, BRINGING IN MORE RETAIL AND OTHER KINDS OF BUSINESSES AND, AND THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE REPLACEMENT AS WE LOOK 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE CAN KEEP 'EM. YEAH. YEAH. I, WHAT WORRIES ME AND, AND, UH, UH, IT'S ON TAPE. I THINK YOU IT ANYWAY, WHAT WORRIES ME, UM, IS THAT, UH, I LOVE THE IDEA ABOUT THE BOWL. I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT IDEA. UH, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY THOUGHT OF THIS BEING THE BOWL TOO, AND DOING SOMETHING HERE. AND I SORT OF GIGGLED AT THAT. AND I SAID, YOU CAN'T HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS IN A CITY. YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON ONE. UM, YET WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT VENUES IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA WITHIN 20 MINUTES AWAY, 25 MINUTES AWAY. THAT OR THAT, WHAT TYPE OF GROUPS ARE YOU GONNA COME TO FILL THOSE VENUES? 'CAUSE YOU'RE BOOKED OVER AT, AT STAPLES CENTER. UM, THAT'S LIKE FLUFFY, FLUFFY HAS TO GO, I THINK IT'S 25 MILES OR 30 MILES AWAY FROM, IF HE HAD A VENUE HERE, HE COULDN'T BE PLAYING OVER AT STAPLES AND HE COULD BE PLAYING OVER AT, AT THE POND. IT'S JUST PART OF CONTRACTS. SO THAT'S THE INTERESTING THING THAT I, I SEE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, IS IT JUST GONNA BE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE HEADLINERS THAT WE'RE GONNA FILL IT TO MAKE MONEY? UH, OR IS IT GOING TO BE, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, THAT'S THE HOPE. I TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE ELEVATION OF OUR, OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AT, AT AT MARINE GREEN. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE COASTAL COUNTRY JAM AND COASTAL COUNTRY JAM IS THE TOP ECHELON OF COUNTRY MUSIC STARS. SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T ATTRACT GREAT. THE TOP ECHELON TALENT. UM, THE, THE CONTRACTS AND OF, OF IT ALL. WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO SPECIAL EVENTS. , HOW'RE ON THE GREEN GO? HOW DID IT GO WITH IN REGARDS TO ANY COMPLAINTS? THAT'S REINA AND THE GREEN'S OURS, RIGHT? YES. UH, WELL, SO WE'VE, WE STARTED A NEW APPROACH WITH SPECIAL EVENTS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHERE WE SELECTED, WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT ALL THE EVENTS THAT ARE IN THE MARINA FOOTPRINT AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE LARGE SCALE, LARGE TIER, HIGH IMPACT EVENTS, MARATHON, COASTAL COUNTRY JAM, USA TRIATHLON, UH, JAZZ FEST. I THINK WE, WE THERE'S A BLUES. THERE'S A BLUES ONE. A REGGAE ONE. YEAH. YEAH. UH, UH, THOSE, AND THEN WE HAVE THOSE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ONES, YOU KNOW, THE LOBSTER FESTIVAL, UH, UM, THE, UH, JAPANESE CAR SHOW, UM, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE 5K STUFF. RIGHT. SO WHAT WE, WE MADE A PLAN WITH SPECIAL EVENTS WAS, HEY, THESE LARGE SCALE EVENTS, WE NEED TO GET 60 DAY NOTICE OUT. OKAY. AT MINIMUM 60 DAY NOTICE OF HERE'S THE PERMIT, HERE'S THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN, THE MAP, THIS IS THE EFFECT THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE ON YOUR ACCESS TO THE MARINAS. THE MIDDLE TIER ONES 30 DAYS, SMALLER CHAIR, TWO WEEKS SINCE THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED. WELL, WE STILL HAVE [00:35:01] ISSUES. YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE THINGS TO SOLVE. IT'S BEEN SO MUCH BETTER BECAUSE OUR BOATERS KNOW THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PLAN IN ADVANCE THEY CAN LEAVE. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU DON'T SAY, MOST PEOPLE DON'T SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO CATALINA. THEY DON'T THINK ON FRIDAY, I'M GOING TO CATALINA THIS AFTERNOON. THEY PLAN OUT SEVERAL MONTHS IN ADVANCE. THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CATALINA ON THIS WEEKEND. SO IF YOU KNOW A COUPLE MONTHS IN ADVANCE THAT THOSE LARGE SCALE HIGH IMPACT EVENTS ARE GONNA RESTRICT YOUR ACCESS TO YOUR BOAT PLAN ACCORDINGLY, DOES THE MARATHON OF THAT DOES THAT MUCH DOWNTOWN? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY NOT. CAN WE GET THEM TO COME IN AND DO A PRESENTA? I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I DON'T GET THE PRESS TELEGRAM. MM-HMM. . UM, I PROBABLY WILL NOW. UM, AND THE LONG BEACH COAST. I PROBABLY WILL. NOW I'M RETIRED. UM, BUT CAN WE GET THEM IN AND TO DO A PRESENTATION TO US? I THINK THE MAC COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN OUR, OUR BOUNDARIES. LIKE SPECIAL EVENTS ASKING. YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, IF THEY KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S GOING ON IN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, WHICH THEY WOULD, IT'D SURE. BE NICE TO KNOW AND BRING IT UP. BECAUSE EVEN, EVEN HAVING AS PUBLIC, EVEN THE PUBLIC THAT ARE THERE, COME ON. I, I STILL, I WOKE UP THE OTHER NIGHT WITH THAT POOR GUY THAT LIVED OVER BY THE MARINA SAYING, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FOR THE OLYMPICS? WHAT AM I GONNA DO? I LIVE HERE. AND I'M LIKE GOING, THAT REALLY IS MM-HMM. THAT REALLY IS IMPACTFUL WHEN THEY DO BIG EVENTS AT LONG BEACH STATE, THEY'RE PARKED ALL UP AND DOWN MY STREET TILL TWO IN THE MORNING. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IT, WHAT DO THEY DO? THE LA TIMES IS COMING OUT WITH THE ARTICLE THIS WEEKEND. ARE THEY THE FOLKS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO LONG BEACH HOSTING ANY EVENTS? BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE, THE, THAT GROUP COME OUT AND TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT. IT JUST MAKES US AWARE AS, AS MAC MEMBERS. 'CAUSE WE GET THE PHONE CALLS AND I'M, I FEEL WELL I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING. YEAH. I GOT, I GOT PHONE CALLS REGARDING THE MARIJUANA EVENT. YEAH. NOT BECAUSE I LIKE TO SMOKE . THAT'S OKAY. IT'S TAPE. I GOT IT. YOUR FOUR 20 CAT HOUSE. HUH? BECAUSE I USED TO BE THE TOBACCO EDUCATION COORDINATOR WAY BACK IN THE NINETIES WHEN WE HAD OUR ORDINANCE. AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED. THEY'RE LIKE, DOESN'T THIS AFFECT OUR ORDINANCE? ISN'T THIS VIOLATING THIS AND THIS? I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN HOOK YOU UP TO PEOPLE WHO CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. WELL IT DOES. UM, ON THE NO SMOKING IT, IT DOES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SMOKE A CIGAR ON THE BEACHES. SAME EVENT IN, IN THE SAME EVENTS. AND IF THEY'RE SMOKING MARIJUANA ON THE OUTSIDE OR DO IT, IT WORRIES ME. IS YOU CHIEF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE TO GO, I MADE UP, THIS IS MADE UP IN MY MIND. BUT THEY GO IN FOR AN EMERGENCY AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S SMOKING DOPE. ARE YOUR GUYS NOW HIGH? AND IF THAT PERSON DIES AND THEY DO A CHECK ON YOUR PARAMEDIC, UH, THAT HAD ALREADY BREATHED IN A COUPLE HITS OF, OF MARIJUANA. 'CAUSE HE IS WALKING THROUGH AND THAT PERSON DIED. THEY DIED ON THEIR OWN. BUT, BUT IS THE CITY LIABLE THIS EVENT IN SAN FRANCISCO? SO WE ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENT UP THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT ISSUES THEY'VE HAD WITH THE EVENT. ANY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT TENDS TO GO PRETTY CHILL. UH, NOT A LOT OF . YOU NEED MORE FOOD TRUCKS THOUGH. NO ONE'S GONNA GET NO ONE. NOT. DUDE, WHAT'S UP? YEAH, IT'S PRETTY CHILL. UH, MOST OF THE MEDICAL CALLS WERE BENIGN. YEAH. AND SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THAT GREAT. ACTUALLY, AS FAR AS EVENTS GO, IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY CALM IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT AND MEDICAL CALLS. SO, UH, I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S 21 YEARS OLD. THAT WAS MY OTHER THING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT STIPULATED. UH, YOU CAN'T HAVE 18 YEAR OLDS GOING INTO THAT. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE 21 YEARS OLD. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN THAT ZONE. YES. UH, THEY WILL BE, UH, IMPACTED. YES. AND THAT'S JUST, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS ADDRESSED. THAT IF THEY, IF THEY'RE DRIVING A VEHICLE, A POLICY FOR ARREST, IF YOU'RE DRIVING A VEHICLE AND YOU GET INTO A FENDER BENDER OR WHATEVER, YOU IMMEDIATELY GO AND GET TESTED. YEP. YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY COME UP POSITIVE. IT HAPPENS THE NEXT DAY. RIGHT. SO IT'S SOMETHING, IT'S THE WHAT CAN HAPPEN FOR SIX WAS IT, WAS IT 30 DAYS? I THINK MARIJUANA STAYS IN BODY FAT FOR UP TO 30 DAYS IF THEY DO A TEST. SO IF YOU GOT EXTRA FAT, IT'S EXTRA LONG. YEAH. YEAH. . SO ONE THING IS, IS JUST TO KIND OF CIRCLE BACK TO CALENDAR AND EVENTS AND WHAT'S UPCOMING. YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO LONG BEACH SPECIAL ED AND FILMING ONE PAGE. AND I DO, I DO. BUT I'D LIKE THEM TO COME IN AND TALK TO AND AND SHARE IT WITH US INSTEAD OF US GOING TO THEM. I THINK IT'S THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW, AND THOSE PUBLIC PEOPLE THAT COME INTO OUR OUR MEETINGS WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN SIT THERE AND SAY, HEY, DID YOU KNOW? NOW I KNOW. OKAY. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR A FUTURE EVENT. AND WE'D ALSO TALKED ABOUT FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING TO HAVE A, UH, OLYMPIC STATUS AND MAYBE MAKING THAT AN EVENING. AND THEN, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS [00:40:01] IF YOU ALLOW ME OR JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO BRING UP, UM, ON OCTOBER 22ND, UH, YOU GUYS MAY KNOW MIKE SEN, HE'S ONE OF THE LOBBYIST. OH YEAH. HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, A BILLBOARD COMPANY AND THEY'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH ME FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. I I'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE. YEAH. THEY REALLY WANT TO PUT ADVERTISING ON LIFEGUARD TOWERS. UM, LIKE COPPERTONE SUNBLOCK, A RAY VAN. THEY WANT TO JUST, AND THEY WANT MOVABLE ADVERTISING. LIKE THE LIFEGUARD HAS TO PUT THE SIGN OUT AND THEN BRING IT IN. AND SO WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH. HE'S GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON OCTOBER 22ND, UM, ABOUT ADVERTISING ON LIFEGUARD TOWERS BECAUSE CITY MANAGEMENT HAS APPROVED THIS. UH, SO THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD. OF COURSE THEY HAVE. THERE IS A BRIEFING ONLINE THAT I SAW. YEAH. SO, UM, THAT, THAT I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH. SO, UH, SO YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENING. UM, AND UM, UM, SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF. AND, AND I DO FEEL PROTECTIVE OF OUR LIFEGUARDS. YES. UM, I FEEL LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE BEST. THERE ARE OUR BEST ATHLETES. THEY'RE THE BEST ACADEMICALLY, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN OUR SYSTEM. AND THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN SIGN MOVERS. WELL, I AND I, IN THOSE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD SAY, OKAY, WELL MIKE AND SAID BILLBOARD COMPANY BACK ON THE EAST COAST, UM, WOULD THAT MONEY BE EARMARKED FOR LIFEGUARDING? AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE CAN'T. IT HAS TO ALL THE GENERAL, WE TALKED TO BOARD ABOUT MORE PASSIVE THINGS THAT THE UM, AND UH, FORMER COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, COLIN KELLY ALSO BROUGHT UP TRASH CANS, OTHER THINGS THAT YOU DON'T ACTIVELY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY GOES UPON THE SPONSORING ORGANIZATION. RIGHT. ARE THEY GONNA PAY FOR THAT LIFEGUARDS HOURS OR 15, 20 MINUTES TO, TO PUT IT UP AND TAKE IT DOWN? YES. A LOT OF THOSE LOGISTICS HAPPEN. YEAH. AND THEN NO, IT'S PROBLEMATIC. UH, AND SO I THINK AFTER THE 22ND WE WENT, THEY WANNA HAVE IT ON OUR RADAR THAT IT COULD BE POSSIBLE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR US. MM-HMM. . AND THIS IS GOING TO WHO, WHAT GROUP? ECONOMIC. AND THEN WHEN IS THAT? UM, WHERE IS THAT MEETING? ON THE 22ND? YEAH, ON THE 22ND. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. UH, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE, THERE ARE ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENTS. I THINK, UM, I BROUGHT IT UP TO LGA, THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. MY, MY UNION GROUP. 'CAUSE THEY WERE UNAWARE OF IT, YOU KNOW, SO WELL, AND, AND I HAD SEEN HIS PRESENTATION. I THINK IT'S ON MIKE'S WEBSITE. OH, OKAY. UM, MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO. YEAH. THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING HARD FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. UH, NEVER THAT I WAS CONCERNED THEN. AND I THOUGHT, UM, I THOUGHT IT DID NOT CONTINUE. SO I JUST DON'T THINK I, I'VE KNOWN MIKE ALL MY LIFE. SO IT'S LIKE, I I AND HE YOU'RE A GOOD LOBBYIST. MIKE . YOU'RE A GOOD LOBBYIST MATE. BUT FULL DISCLOSURE THAT MY, UH, MY HUSBAND WORKED FOR MERCH CINEMA AMERICA. OKAY. BUT WHAT WORRIES ME, IT TRULY DOES WORRY ME. WHERE DO WE STOP? ARE WE GONNA PUT MY COMPANY ON, ON ON MY OLD COMPANY THAT RETIRED FROM, I WON'T MENTION THEIR NAME. WE PUT NOTHING ON OUR VEHICLES. NOTHING ON OUR VEHICLES. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S ONE COMPANY. UNLESS IT'S THE OLYMPIC AND WE'RE A SPONSOR WITH 'EM, THAT'S ABOUT IT. WE'VE DONE SOME SPECIALTY VEHICLES. BUT HAVING THAT, SO IS, IS EVERY EVERY POSTER GONNA GO UP, GONNA BE REVIEWED BY THE MAC COMMITTEE OR HEALTH AND SAFETY? IS IT A ROCKSTAR THAT COULD, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S, I ECONOMICALLY THOUGH WE ARE LOOKING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP OF THINGS. AND IF WE HAD THE POOL, IF IT WAS THE UPS OLYMPIC POOL IN LONG BEACH, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD A CORPORATE SPONSOR, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND WE JUST HAVE TO START PUTTING OUR BOUNDARIES IN EARLY. IT'S, IT'S, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY YESTERDAY IN RELATION TO CAR CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP FOR LIFEGUARDING SPECIFICALLY. UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN CONVERSATION AND UM, OF IT, I GUESS, AND HOW IT'S WORKING IN HUNTINGTON BEACH, HOW IT'S WORKING IN LA COUNTY. MM-HMM. HOW THEY'RE DOING IT. OBVIOUSLY WITH THE OLYMPICS COMING, THIS IS, WE'RE GETTING APPROACHED A LOT RIGHT NOW. AND ONTO THE TOWERS, THE FACE OF THE TOWER. WELL, JUST REMEMBER, JUST REMEMBER WHEN THE OLYMPICS COME IN. I'LL TELL YOU THIS 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THREE OLYMPICS. WHEN THE OLYMPICS COME IN AND THE CAMERAS ARE THERE, THERE IS NOTHING THAT'LL BE ON THOSE LIFEGUARD TOWERS. BUT LIFEGUARD TOWERS, UNLESS THEY ARE A SPONSOR OF THE OLYMPICS OR A PARTNER IN OLYMPICS, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WILL BE SHOWN ON OLYMPIC CAPABILITY ON THEIR, THEIR FEEDS. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT OUR ATTORNEYS NEED TO KNOW. I SHARE THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE WE WERE SPONSOR OF WATER POLO FOR THE US OLYMPICS UHHUH, [00:45:01] AND THEY TRAINED AT LOS ALAMITOS AND WE HAD OUR BANNERS UP 'CAUSE WE HOSTED IT. AND THE COACH AT THAT TIME, I WON'T MENTION HIS NAME 'CAUSE HE HAD A SON THAT PLAYED WATER POLO, TOOK EVERYTHING THAT SAID UPS DOWN. AND OUR PEOPLE THERE ALLOWED IT. THOSE PEOPLE WERE NO LONGER EMPLOYED WITH UPS. WE WEREN'T A SPONSOR OF THE OLYMPICS. WE'RE A PARTNER IN THE OLYMPICS. AND OUR STUFF NEEDED TO BE UP EVERYWHERE. AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF ONE MAN, BECAUSE HE WANTED IT FOCUSED ON HIS SON AND IT WAS NOT A GOOD THING HERE. WHAT WORRIES ME HERE IF WE DO THIS, ARE IS EVERYBODY GONNA BE PLEASED WITH THE SPONSORSHIP? WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE ROCKSTAR. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE, THESE TYPE OF ENERGY DRINKS OR DON'T LIKE COLA AND AND WHERE DOES IT STOP? WHO APPROVES IT? WE GIVE THEM ACCESS AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE SUNSCREEN BECAUSE IT CAUSES CANCER. I, IT WORRIES ME. THAT JUST JUST PUTS US INTO A WHOLE DIFFERENT REALM. UM, OF WHY, RIGHT. WELL, AFTER THE PRESENTATION ON THE 22ND, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. OKAY. SO I'M JUST ALSO SAYING IT'S GOTTA BE RUN BY THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE YEAH. WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT'S VERY DIVERSE AND, AND IF WE'RE PUTTING INFORMATION ON OUR LIFEGUARD STANDS THAT REALLY DON'T MESH WITH OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA, THAT COULD BE, WOULDN'T SURPRISE YOU GUYS. TODD, IS IT APPROPRIATE THAT ON FUTURE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE UPCOMING, THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE HEARING SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS LIFEGUARDS? NOT NOT NO DETAILS. WE NEED TO HAVE A CON A CONVERSATION WITH ECONOMIC IF, UM, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, I THINK THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT THAT WOULD BE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA AS A FUTURE MEETING. I'M NOT SURE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS IF POSSIBLE FOR THIS MEETING. BUT MOVING FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD, WE MAY WANT IT AGENDA IN ON OUR OWN. I JUST WANT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, TO INFORM THE GENERAL PUBLIC. ARE THEY A SEPARATE COMMITTEE? ARE THEY LIKE OUR COMMITTEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A COMMISSION. THEY HAVE THE ECONOMIC, SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GONNA MEET AT FOR THAT GROUP. MM-HMM. SHOULDN'T IT BE COMING TO US ANYWAY, SO THE BEACH? NOT NECESSARILY, NOT NECESSARILY. LIKE I SAID, I HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MY COUNTERPART IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN I CAN COME BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH MORE INFORMATION, CHIEF ME AND I'LL WILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THEN WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY OFF, OFF OF OCTOBER 22ND, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. AND THEN, THEN WE CAN MAKE A, A PLAN TO BRING INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS AS, AS AN ENTIRE MAC. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE? THE, THE, I DON'T ACTUALLY. OKAY. WE'LL FIND IT. CAN YOU SEND, I'LL, I'LL SEND YOU ONE TOO. CAN YOU SEND IT TO ME PLEASE? SORRY, I'M GONE BE THERE. UH, ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE, THE GOOD OF THE CAUSE? NO MA'AM. ANYTHING ELSE? I SEE NO FURTHER BUSINESS. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. I WISH I WOULD'VE TAKEN MY BOOK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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