SPEECH, MARINE ADVISORY FINANCE
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COMMITTEE.AND, UH, UH, CAN YOU DO ROLL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER CAGER? HERE.
COMMISSIONER MCRIGHT? I'M HERE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE, UH, REGULAR AGENDA RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY, APRIL 11TH.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING? NONE.
ANY NAYS? NO NAYS HEARD NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC PASS.
RECOMMENDATIONS IS RECEIVING FATHER MARINE BUREAU FINANCIAL REPORT.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NOW WE WILL GO INTO THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
SO RIGHT THERE, WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD DO THE FINANCIAL REPORT, RIGHT.
AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO WITH THE MOVE THE FIRST.
I WOULD JUST, WELL, NO, NO, NO.
YOU DO, YOU DO THE MOTION, RIGHT.
THE CONVERSATION THAT OPENS THE CONVERSATION AND EVERYTHING.
BUT YOU WANT TO HAVE THE REPORT GIVEN, AND THEN AFTER THE REPORT, THAT'S WHEN YOU DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU BRING IT BACK TO YOU GOT IT.
DO WE HAVE ANY MONEY ARE WE SOLVING? WE HAVE A COUPLE DOLLARS.
TODAY WE HAVE, UH, ADMIN ANALYST, PIA SMITH HERE TO PROVIDE OUR MARINE BUREAU FINANCIAL REPORT PORTION.
UH, AS IT'S BEEN STATED, I WILL BE GIVEN A FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE MARINA FUND DURING FISCAL YEAR 24, WHICH ACTUALLY ENDED ON NINE 30.
I'LL START OFF WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SIMPLE WORKSHEET.
THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS ARE THE YEAR END ACTUALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 AND FISCAL YEAR 23.
NEXT COLUMN IS THE FISCAL YEAR 24 ADJUSTED BUDGET.
NEXT COLUMN IS THE FISCAL YEAR, 24 YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE CONCENTRATING ON TODAY.
AND THE LAST COLUMN IS THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PROJECTED BUDGET.
SO WE ARE JUST GONNA START FROM THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND WE GO DOWN.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH SLIP REVENUES.
TOTAL SLIP REVENUES, UH, RECEIVED DURING FISCAL YEAR 24 IS $27,360,975.
OTHER REVENUES RECEIVED $3,830,852 FOR A TOTAL GROSS REVENUE OF 31,000,191 AND $827.
MAY I ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY? GO AHEAD.
SO WHAT IS THE OTHER REVENUE COMPRISED OF? OH, THAT IS VERY GOOD.
THE ATTACHMENTS, UH, ATTACHMENT A GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE REVENUE.
AND LET YOU KNOW BOOKKEEPER YES.
I SHOULDN'T MENTIONED THAT PART.
UH, NEXT SECTION, WE'LL MOVE ON TO EXPENSES, WHICH IS BROKEN DOWN INTO MAINTENANCE COST FOR MAINTENANCE PARKS AND REC OPERATIONS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST MARINE, UH, MARINE SAFETY LIFEGUARDS, UH, MARINE PATROL, THE POLICE, AND OTHER EXPENSES FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, THEY TOTAL $20,600,753.
I DO HAVE A, HAVE TO MAKE A NOTE HERE.
THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER EXPENSES, THE 3.258 MM-HMM.
UH, BUT IT'S ONLY FOR THE BOAT OWNER SIDE.
THE OTHERS THE PUBLIC SIDE IS THE PUBLIC SIDE.
THE PUBLIC SIDE, THE PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF, BUT FOR THE BOTH OWNER SIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE $2.1 MILLION THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR.
SO ARE WE DOING THE, IS IT BASICALLY GOING TO CLEAN HALF THE PARKING LOT,
SO I'LL ARGUE, OH, THAT'S, THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO INCLUDE NEW PAVEMENT.
UM, THE PARKING STALLS, RETRIED, UH, SIDEWALK ADJUSTMENT TO INCREASE A DA ACCESSIBILITY.
AND 12 NEW EV CHARGING STATIONS.
I GUESS THE, THE, THE WONDER IS HAVING PUBLIC ON ONE SIDE AND TENANTS ON ONE SIDE, IT'S REALLY THE SAME PARKING LOT.
TENANT TENANTS ARE ON THE FRONT SIDE PUBLIC.
AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, ISN'T
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IT A, ARE WE GONNA DO THE WHOLE, ARE THEY GONNA DO THE WHOLE PARKING LOT WITH JUST HALF OF IT? WE PAY AND HALF OF IT THE CITY PAYS, OR IS IT GONNA BE THIS HALF IS GONNA BE DONE FIRST? NO, IT'S, IT'S ALL BEING DONE AT THE SAME TIME.UH, AND THE, THE, UH, THE, THE SHARE AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN BROKEN UP BY SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO, UH, THE BOAT OWNER PARKING IN THAT AREA TAKES UP MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT.
SO WE'RE PAYING MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING OUR SHARE.
BUT IT'S ALL GONNA BE DONE AT ONE TIME.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE, HERE'S THE BOAT OWNER BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR BUDGET.
NO, IT'S ALL GONNA BE DONE AT ONE TIME.
IT'S ALL BEING DONE AT ONE TIME.
IT'S ACTUALLY STARTING ON MONDAY, SO, GREAT.
SO SECTIONS OF THE PARKING LOT ARE BEING DONE AT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL, TWO MONTHS, BASICALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OUR, NO.
SO WHEN YOU SUBTRACT THE TOTAL EXPENSES FROM THE TOTAL GROSS REVENUE, WE HAVE NET REVENUES OF $10,591,074 MILLION MILLION.
UM, THAT STAYS WITH US, CORRECT.
CITY CAN'T COME GET THAT, CAN THEY? OH, WE WE'RE NOT THREE YET.
NEXT SECTION IS DEBT SERVICE SECTION.
OUR BOND DEBT SERVICE FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 WITH SEVEN MILLION SEVEN MILLION FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND NINE HUNDRED SIXTY THREE DOLLARS.
SO THAT COMES FROM OUR NET REVENUES.
THAT PAYMENT AND THE NET REVENUE AFTER THE DEBT SERVICE IS, WHICH IS OURS, A $3,153,111.
AND NOW I WANT TO, UM, DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.
IS THAT A, IS THAT A PERCENT? IS THAT LIKE YES, THAT'S A PERCENT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M REACHING NEXT.
OUR GOAL RATIO EVERY YEAR THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, HAVE TO MEET IS 1.25.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE, UH, WE 1.42, WE ASPIRE FOR 1.5, BUT 1.42 IS NOT BAD.
AND TO BE HONEST, IF WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE $2.1 MILLION PROJECT MM-HMM.
FISCAL YEAR, UH, ENDED NINE 30, SO THAT'S DONE.
HOWEVER, THE ACCOUNTING BOOKS DO NOT CLOSE UNTIL EARLY PART OF DECEMBER.
SO UNTIL THEN, THE BOOKS ARE STILL OPEN.
FOR FINAL TRANSACTIONS THAT MIGHT COME THROUGH, WHETHER THEY BE REVENUE OR EXPENDITURES, IT SHOULDN'T BE A LARGE JUMP.
BUT BY THE NEXT QUARTERLY MEETING, I WILL HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
SO DECEMBER, WE SHOULD HAVE OUR, I MEAN, THE DECEMBER SHOULD BE OUR FINAL.
IT'S, I'LL HAVE THAT BY THE NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY.
OR IF IT'S, IF IT'S PIA, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE SURPLUS OF 3,153,000 111 MM-HMM.
DO WE HAVE ANY, DO WE HAVE ANY, I CALL, DO WE HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR A BAD RAINY DAY FUND? MARINA RESERVES? WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP THE EQUIVALENT OF A YEAR'S WORTH OF INTEREST PAYMENTS.
UH, SO WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE TO MAINTAIN APPROXIMATELY $8 MILLION AS A RESERVE TO MAKE A RAINY DAY PAYMENT OF OUR DEBT SERVICE.
BUT THEN ALSO ALL THE FUNDS, NET REVENUE GO INTO THE MARINA FUND CAPITAL, UH, PORTION.
MARINA FUND CAPITAL THE CAPITAL FUND, YES.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE DRAW ON TO DO OUR PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHERE THAT 2.1 CAME FROM.
ESTIMATE IT'S GOING TO, TO THE PARKING LOT.
UH, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE, UH, COMING UP FOR THE MARINE MAINTENANCE DOCK OVER HERE AT, UH, STATION 34.
THAT'LL APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 1.1, 1.2.
SO, UM, I ATTENDED A PUBLIC MEETING YESTERDAY, UH, HOSTED BY THE LONG BEACH BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION AT THE SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB.
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I LEARNED AND HELP ME WITH THIS.MM-HMM,
MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS HAS BEEN IN OTHER PARTS OF LONG BEACH, CERTAIN BUSINESS DISTRICTS ARE SET UP.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IN BELMONT SHORE MM-HMM.
THERE MAY BE ONE SIMILAR DOWN ON, UM, RETRO ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE.
IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR MARINA PROJECT.
DO YOU REFER TO THAT AS AN ENTERPRISE ZONE OR ENTERPRISE? UH, I THINK TECHNICALLY ON THE CHART IT IS LISTED UNDER ENTERPRISE, BUT, UM, OKAY.
IT'S, IT IS A CHART OF ACCOUNTS THAT THEY GIVE US THAT THEY, UM, DESIGNATE DIFFERENT SORTS OF FUNDS TO DIFFERENT, I THINK THERE'S, UH, INTERNAL FUNDS, INTERNAL SERVICE, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPE OF FUNDS.
UH, BUT YES, TECHNICALLY IT IS, BUT WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN MARINA.
SO THAT I THINK HELPS WITH THE COMMUNICATION WITH RESPECT TO HOW SLIP FEES CAN BE USED AND HOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE COLLECTED FOR ESSENTIALLY.
SO IT IS BASICALLY MONEY THAT'S DEDICATED TO A SPECIFIC, UM, MAINTAIN MAINTAINING.
IT'S STRICTLY FOR MAINTAINING NOBODY WE CAN GET AT THAT MONEY OTHER THAN THE FOLKS.
I MEAN, IT, THE, THE MONEY IS DEDICATED FOR THE USE IN THE MARINA AND NOT AT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
THAT'S WHAT I, I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT, IS THERE ANY WAY THE CITY COULD TAKE THOSE FUNDS? AND YOU, I'M A STATE LOBBYIST, RIGHT?
SO THE GOVERNOR TOOK MONEY OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION FUND.
IT, IT NEVER, NO DOLLARS EVER WENT BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST WONDERING, CAN THE CITY AS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TAKE THOSE DOLLARS? UH, IF THEY WANTED THEM? SO THE MARINA FUND IS A SUB FUND OF THE THAILANDS FUND.
SO WE ARE UNDER THE THAILANDS FUND AND THEN THE SUB FUND OF THE MARINA FUND.
SO THE MARINA FUND IS PART OF THE THAILANDS FUND.
NOW, BASED ON THE LANGUAGE IN OUR BOND, ALL NET REVENUE IN THE MARINAS HAS TO STAY IN THE REVENUE.
THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE BOND COVENANT THAT WE WENT THROUGH.
NOW, CAN THAT CHANGE BASED ON, ON CITY MANAGER? CITY COUNCIL, MANEUVERING OF DEBT SERVICE AND RIGHT.
AND PAYMENTS THAT COULD, BUT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON RESTRICTIONS WITH OUR BOND, UH, MARINA FUND REVENUE HAS TO STAY IN THE MARINES.
I UNDERSTAND HOW THE, WHERE THE REVENUES COME FROM AND, AND WHAT THE DEDICATED USE IS SERVICES.
SO THE EXPRESSION ENTERPRISE FUND, FOR ME, AND AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MEANS A LOT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD OF IT BEING USED IN OTHER ASPECTS OF THE WAY THE CITY MANAGES OTHER, UM, DEPARTMENTS.
OTHER FUNDS HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED.
UM, BUT, BUT THE SENSE OF THERE'S OTHER KINDS OF ENTERPRISE FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND SO THE MARINA IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE FUNDS ARE CONTROLLED.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN HELL OR HIGH WATER WAS COMING AND REGARDS TO OUR PARKING AND PUTTING PARKING METERS IN THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AT THAT TIME, THE CITY WAS NOT GONNA HAVE THAT GO BACK TO THE MARINE.
IT WAS GONNA GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
MUCH LIKE BELMONT SHORE HAS THEIRS, BIXBY HAS THEIRS.
IT GOES BACK TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
UM, THAT WAS ALWAYS A WORRY, I THINK OF IF YOU GOT PEOPLE COMING DOWN AND, AND MAKING A PAYMENT, BUT HAVING IT GOING BACK TO THE CITY AT THE THAILAND FRONT, I BELIEVE IT WAS BROUGHT UP FROM THE MAYOR, IT WAS ROBERT GARCIA AT THE TIME THAT SAYS, HEY, THIS IS GONNA GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT THAT MONEY CANNOT.
SO SAY WE DO PUT IN A PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN IN THE AL BAY PARKING.
UH, THAT WILL EITHER GO INTO THE MARINA FUND OR IT'LL GO INTO THE TIDELANDS FUND.
IT CANNOT GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE ALL REVENUE GENERATED IN THE TIDELANDS HAS TO STAY IN THE TIDELANDS.
SO IT'LL EITHER GO INTO THE MARINA FUND OR THE, OR THE TIDELANDS FUND.
NOW, FROM A MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE TO
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LOOK AT THINGS HOLISTICALLY WHERE OUR, OUR MARINA FUND IS, IT'S, IT'S SOLID RIGHT NOW.WE'RE MAKING MORE THAN WE EXPEND.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR TIDELANDS FUND.
WE NEED TO IDENTIFY, EXPLORE, AND TAP INTO ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES TO MAINTAIN THE TIDELANDS FUND RIGHT.
AS WE WEAN OURSELVES OFF OF OIL.
SO, UH, THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN, IF THAT COMES INTO FRUITION, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD GO TO THE MARINA FUND OR THE TIDELANDS, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF IT DOES GO TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE TIDELANDS TO SUPPORT OVERALL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT ALL OF TIDES.
BECAUSE IF WE ONLY PUT IT INTO THE MARINA FUND, IT CAN ONLY SUPPORT ROGER PROJECTS IN THE MARINAS.
WHERE IN THE THAILANDS, EVERYWHERE FROM LA RIVER TO THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER IN THAILANDS, WE CAN, WE CAN USE THAT REVENUE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO I WANTED TO SORT OF HELP MYSELF BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RESPECT TO REVENUE AND, UM, EXPENSES WITHIN THE MARINE BUREAU.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I CAME ACROSS, AND IF I MAY SHARE THIS WITH MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THIS IS A CITY AUDITOR REPORT, WHICH DEALS WITH SB 1137.
AND THE QUESTION OF HIGHLANDS FUNDS REVENUE CHANGING OVER TIME.
AND I GIVE THAT TO YOU FOR THE RECORD.
SO THIS WAS A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY AUDITOR SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SB 1137 HAPPENING.
LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW WITH TIDELANDS OVER TIME.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE QUITE A DRASTIC, UH, CHANGE IN OUR REVENUE FROM THE TIDELANDS FUND.
AND I GIVE THIS TO MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SORT OF SET THE TABLE.
WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH AND HOW MUCH OF A BACKFILL WILL BE, LOOK, WHAT WILL WE BE LOOKING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE? AND THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT THIS AT THE MOMENT.
BUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS GOING TO BE DEALING WITH.
IN THE LESS THAN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
UM, AND, UH, HOW SUCH A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF TIDE LANDS OPERATING FUNDS ARE A PART OF THE MARINE BUREAU'S OPERATING BUDGET.
THE REVENUE THAT COMES THROUGH THE CITY'S ENTIRE PIE OF TIDELANDS MONEY, WHERE DOES IT GO? OVER 50% OF IT COMES TO THE MARINE BUREAU FOR SERVICES FOR, UM, OUR MARINA BEACHES AND WATERWAYS.
SO JUST TO SET THE TABLE, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE REVENUE COULD BE COMING FROM IN THE FUTURE AND TALKING ABOUT HOW BALANCED BUDGETS OPERATE, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO OPERATE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
UM, SO SHARING THAT WITH MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND I'M NOT A FINANCIAL PERSON, BUT I DO SEE AND HAVE A GREAT INTEREST IN HOW THE CITY, UH, WILL RESPOND TO HOW TIDELANDS FUNDS WILL BE DIMINISHED OVER TIME.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET AWAY FROM OIL.
THESE NUMBERS SHOULD FRIGHTEN ALL OF US.
I MEAN, BUT, BUT THIS IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WHAT GOES AWAY? WHAT ARE WE GONNA BRING IN? YES MA'AM.
OR WHAT DO WE CUT COMPENSATED AS THE MAP COMMISSION.
WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN AHEAD OF THE CURVE WITH THIS AND SENT A LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS AND OUR CONCERN FOR WHAT WAS GOING TO BE REPLACEMENT FUNDS YET FOR THAILAND MONIES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY REDUCTION IN 1137 FROM THE LOSS OF OIL DRILLING.
SO WE KIND OF HAD OUR EYE ON IT AS A, AS A, UM, JUST AS A HEADS UP FROM OUR, FROM OUR COMMITTEE.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT ON IN TERMS OF NOW REALLY BRINGING IT TO THE TABLE AGAIN.
I'M SIMPLY SAYING, THIS IS THE START OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS IN THIS, THE DOCUMENT THAT I JUST HANDED OUT IS THE 24 FISCAL YEAR.
THE IDEA IS THIS IS THE 24 25 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET APPROVED.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE OVERALL FOR PARKS, REC, AND MARINE.
BUT MARINE BUREAU IS ALSO CARVED OUT WITH RESPECT TO, UM, YOUR PROPOSED, THE
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PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 24 25 REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.UM, ADJUSTED FOR 2024 AND THEN PROPOSED FOR 2025.
AND MY MAP SHOWS IN THIS DOCUMENT AS PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET, THERE'S A $2 MILLION SHORTFALL.
SO JUST FYI, WHEN WE PROJECT OUR YEARLY REVENUES, WE'RE ALWAYS PROJECTING ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE.
SO EVERY TIME YOU LOOK AT THAT, IF YOU GO BACK FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT SAME AND LOOK AT THE, THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN THE ACTUAL YEAR.
AND IT'S USUALLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2.5 AND $4 MILLION OVER THAT PROJECTION.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE, OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MARINA FUND IS HEALTHY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS VERY HEALTHY ON THE BOOKS AND FROM THE BUDGET PERSPECTIVE.
SO, SO WHAT WE DO IS WHEN THEY ASK US, HEY, WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION? WE LOOK AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, CONSERVATIVE PROJECTION, HEY, IF THERE'S A CALAMITY OF OCCUPANCY, IF, IF THIS HAPPENS, UH, AND WE DO NOT BRING IN THAT SLIP REVENUE.
THIS IS WHAT WE WERE SAYING IS THIS IS THE BOTTOM OF WHAT WE WILL MAKE.
UM, I'M GONNA BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PAGE.
NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT HERE.
IT'S ONE OF THE RED, THE PINK TABS THAT I GIVE YOU.
AND THIS IS THE GRAPHIC THAT HELPS UNDERSTAND HOW, AT LEAST FOR ME IN A VERY VISUAL WAY, HOW, UM, REVENUES COMING INTO, UH, FROM THE TIDELANDS OPERATING BUDGET OR REVENUE COMING IN FROM TIDELANDS AND THE TIDELANDS AREA, THE REVENUE, AND THEN THE, UH, EXPENDITURES AND WHAT IT IS, UH, THAT IS HAPPENING AT LEAST IN FISCAL YEAR 2025 ANTICIPATED.
SO AGAIN, JUST SETTING THE TABLE FOR WHAT IS IN THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR 2025.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMBERS, WE CAN SEE AND WATCH HOW THIS AN ANTICIPATE, UM, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING WITH RESPECT TO SB 1137 AND THE TIDE TIDELANDS OPERATING BUDGET.
UM, AND RECOGNIZING THAT FOR THE MARINE BUREAU, UM, MORE THAN HALF OF THE, WELL, 60% OVER 60% OF THE REVENUE FOR MARINE BUREAU IS TIDELANDS TIDELANDS RELATED.
UM, AGAIN, I BELIEVE A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY FUZZY.
'CAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT, AT, AT ESTIMATES, RIGHT? YES.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FULL IMPACTS OF A SB 1137 MIGHT BE AND HOW IT MIGHT BE CHALLENGED IN COURTS AS THINGS MOVE ALONG.
BUT TO USE THIS AS A BASELINE, I THINK IS A HEALTHY WAY OF LOOKING AT HOW WE DO WITH OUR, THEIR PERSPECTIVES.
COMMISSIONER, I THINK ONE, ONE OF MY CONCERNS, UM, IS WHERE THE DOLLAR IS GONNA COME WHEN WE'RE PUSHING FOR, I BELIEVE NINE VENUES, UH, FOR THE OLYMPICS THAT ARE GONNA BE STARTING RELATIVELY SOON.
UM, WHERE DO THE DOLLARS COME, UH, COME FOR BASICALLY THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ALONG THE SHORELINE, ALONG THE MARINA AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? IS IT TITLE FUNDS? IS IT THE MARINE FUNDS, OR IS IT GOING TO BE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ACCEPTED THAT AS WE'RE GONNA BE HOSTING IT? PORSCHE.
PORSCHE, AND I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR PARTNERS IN PUBLIC WORKS ON THIS.
I THINK JUST LOOKING AT THAT WE WANT TO, WE NEED TO KNOW, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S LITERALLY
THEY THERE, I KNOW THERE IS A, A CLOSE TO A BILLION DOLLARS.
IT SOMETHING LIKE, CARLY, YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS MAYBE IS CLOSE TO 900 MILLION CARLY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT RIGHT.
UH, SHE'S KIND OF PAIRED IN WITH CONVERSATIONS.
UM, BUT, UM, $900 MILLION OF FUNDING THAT IS GOING TO BE SPENT BETWEEN NOW AND LEADING UP TO THROUGH AND AFTER THE OLYMPICS.
NOW, SOME OF THAT'LL BE TITLES, SOME OF THAT'LL BE GENERAL FUND, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE POINT.
IT'S THE COMMITMENT THE CITY'S DONE.
BUT I GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER.
THIS IS, THESE ARE CONCERNING NUMBERS IN THE SENSE OF IF THAT OTHER POTT GOES AWAY, UM, YEAH.
FOR, FOR US, THE CONCERN IS BEACH MAINTENANCE.
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OUR PRIMARY EXPENSE IN, UH, IN, UM, THE TIDELANDS OPERATING FUND.SO FOR US, IT WILL BE TAKING CARE OF KELLY'S SHOP AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STILL OUT THERE.
UM, AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE CAN PERFORM.
UM, WHEN WE WERE RESEARCHING THIS FOR OUR LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WE LEARNED THAT SB 1137 IS BEING CHALLENGED BY THE OIL INDUSTRY.
AND THERE IS A MEASURE ON BALLOT.
THE LATEST IS THEY WITHDREW LIKE THREE DAYS BEFORE THE BALLOT MEASURES WERE HAD TO BE FINALIZED.
NOW, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE NOTION THAT THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THIS SITUATION, WHICH IS LAW IN CALIFORNIA.
THEY ARE, AND IT'S FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE.
AND MY ENVIRO FRIENDS, UM, THEY WILL BE TAKING THIS LEGISLATION TO COURT.
THAT IS THE WAY THAT THEY FEEL IS A MORE EFFECTIVE WAY RATHER THAN BRINGING UP, UH, THIS ON A BALLOT MEASURE FOR THE, UM, THEY, THEY FELT THEY WERE GONNA LOSE.
AND, AND
BUT THE GOVERNOR HAD THE OTHER, I CALL IT THE OTHER STRING WITH THE, UH, THE GAS TAX THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS COMING AT THEM AT ONE TIME.
UH, THEY ARE GOING TO TRY AND, AND DO THIS ON THE LEGAL SIDE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES OUT TO PUBLIC'S EYE IN PUBLIC PERCEPTION, WHEN ANYTHING COMES OUT, AND I DON'T LOOK AT ME ANYMORE.
UH, I LOOK AT MY GRANDCHILDREN, I LOOK AT MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.
WE WANT CLEAN WATER, AND WE WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIFE.
UM, SO I THINK WHEN IT GOES TO PUBLIC, WHEN PUBLIC SEES THESE TYPE OF THINGS, IT'S AMAZING WHAT THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY, THEY MAY SAY SOMETHING HERE, BUT THEY VOTE ON SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY.
AND I THINK THE, I THINK THE OIL INDUSTRY DEF DEFINITELY SAW THAT COMING.
SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I GET THE SAME STEP IN MY EMAIL, SO, SO COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TO A YES.
SO I WANTED TO BRING US BACK DOWN TO A MICRO APPROACH AND, UH, ASK QUESTIONS OF, UH, PORSCHE ABOUT OUR SPECIFIC, UH, MARINA'S BUDGET.
UM, I, AND, AND SORRY, I I WILL DEFINITELY COMPLY, BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WE MIGHT GET A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT COMMISSIONER ABSOLUTELY IS REFERRING TO AS A REFERENCE FOR, UM, NEW MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE HISTORY? THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
YOU GOOD? ABOUT THE MARINA SPECIFICALLY? MARINAS? UH, JUST BUDGET MARINA TIDES.
UM, I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE PRIDE TOWER PROJECT, UM, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO MAYBE, AND IT JUST CAME BACK LIKE ON THE NEWS CYCLE AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE WHERE THE FUNDING FOR THAT WAS COMING FROM.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE DETAILS ON THAT? SO I ACTUALLY JUST HAD A, UH, UPDATE MEETING WITH THE S CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UH, THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE DESIGN CONSULTANT TO VALUE ENGINEER A LITTLE BIT OF THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE PRIDE NODE.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING SOME VALUE ENGINEERING.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAN, UH, UH, PUT FORTH A GREAT COMMUNITY VALUE PROJECT THERE.
I, I, I UNDERSTAND TOO THAT THERE SOMETHING IS GOING TO, I BELIEVE IT'S PLANNING, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, PUTTING, YOU KNOW, BANDA SOLE OR COPPERTONE OR, OR DIFFERENT THINGS ON ALL THE LIFEGUARD STATIONS, MUCH LIKE THEY ATTEMPTED TO DO IN HUNTINGTON BEACH.
AND THAT GOT SHUT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A LIFEGUARD.
WOULD YOU, I GOTTA, AM I ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS LIKE THIS? SURE.
WHY NOT?
YOU HAVE TO PUT 'EM UP AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE 'EM DOWN.
WE, WE HAVE STUFF WE ALWAYS SET OUT ANYWAY, LIKE THE CONES AND OKAY.
I MEAN, THE FIRST TWO HOURS OF THE DAY, THE BEACH IS PRETTY QUIET.
SO IT'S EASY TO LIKE SET STUFF.
AND COMMISSION, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT'S STILL IN WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN, IT'S A POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE TIDELANDS FUND THAT'S BEING EXPLORED.
UH, WOULD IT COME TO US? WOULD, WOULD WE GET A, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF OUR, IT'S WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
ONCE IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE THERE, THERE, WHETHER ECONOMIC SEES IT AS VIABLE OR NOT, THEN IT WILL COME BEFORE THIS.
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UM, COMMISSIONER SAVALA, THE LIFEGUARD, THE PRIDE LIFEGUARD TOWER IS NOT COMING OUT OF PUBLIC FUNDS.IT'S OH, I KNOW, RIGHT? IT'S TIDELANDS MONEY.
SO THE NOTION OF IT COMING OUT OF, LET'S SAY TAX DOLLARS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND WHERE TIDELAND MONEY, IT'S PUBLIC.
TIDELANDS MONEY IS PUBLIC, BUT IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUNDS OF THE CITY.
SO WE, WHERE THE TIDELANDS OPERATING COMMITTEE, CAPITAL COMMITTEE, WE GET THOSE REPORTS AND SO THEY TELL US WHAT THE, UH, BUDGET IS AND HOW MUCH MONEY'S COMING OUT OF TIDELAND.
SO IT'S A GOOD RESPONSE TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT ASK THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS.
THE LIKE COMMENTS THAT YOU SEE ON STORIES ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING THIS BIG PROJECT AND YET LIKE THE BATHROOMS ARE LIKE, NOT IN GREAT CONDITION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THIS AND THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT LIKE THE BIG PICTURE FOR SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? SURE.
SO, YEAH, THAT WAS TOTALLY WELCOME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN WE NOW GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE IF THEY'RE PUBLIC? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING FINANCE FOR THOSE WHO CAME IN HERE? NO, WE'RE GOOD.
HEARING NONE, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOW AT A VOTE.
NOW WE OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS REGARDING THE FINANCE.
MAYBE I LIKE TO SHARE ANY YOUR THOUGHTS OR WORDS OF WISDOM.
I WILL MOVE, UH, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ANY OPPOSED? FINANCES ADJOURNED.