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MARINE ADVISORY

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COMMISSION AGENDA FOR THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10TH TO ORDER.

CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER, CHAIR MURRAY.

COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR MCCRAE.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER ATKINS MCPHAIL.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER CARLIN.

COMMISSIONER CAJUN.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER LAMB.

COMMISSIONER MARINO.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER ZA.

HERE YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

EXCELLENT.

EXCELLENT.

OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM WILL BE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2024.

SO MOVED SECOND.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANY CHANGES THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE ON THAT? YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE ADJUSTMENT TO THE VERY LAST LINE, WHICH WAS MY COMMENTS DURING PUBLIC.

MY, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT PERIOD HAD TO DO WITH THE BOAT ORDERS ASSOCIATION MEETING THAT WAS HELD LAST NIGHT.

I WANTED TO MAKE, UM, UH, AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.

IT WASN'T ABOUT HOUSING.

OKAY.

IT WAS ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, BOAT OWNERS MEETING AT THE, AT THE SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB YESTERDAY.

OKAY.

NOTED.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, UH, DURING THE COMMENTS I DISCUSSED HOW THE VOTERS PAID FOR THE PARKING LOT, THE BATHROOMS. UH, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL FACILITY BECAUSE OF THEIR, UH, MONEY, BUT IT ALSO WAS EXCELLENTLY MANAGED BY THE MARINE DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU, TODD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

WE'LL GO FOR THE APPROVAL.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASS.

WE ARE GOING TO ADJUST BECAUSE DUE TO THE AVAILABILITY OF A PRESENTER, WE'RE GONNA TAKE NUMBER FIVE NOW.

AGENDA NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON THE LAWN TO GARDEN PROGRAM IN THE TIDELANDS AREA.

A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

GREAT.

CAN WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION? UH, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE KELLY ARMSTRONG, OUR MURRAY, UH, BEACH MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT, AND HE WILL, UH, UH, SAY A FEW COMMENTS AND INTRODUCE OUR PRESENTER.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I'VE BEEN EXCITED TO SHARE SOME OF OUR PAST, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH LONG BEACH UTILITIES AND, UM, UH, SURF RIDER AND, UH, OUR DESIGNER.

WE ARE EXCITED TO MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.

UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL PROJECTS PLANNED, UH, IN THE COMING YEAR, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE OUR OPERATION AND OUR PROJECTS WITH A, A VERY TALENTED TEAM.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL INTRODUCE, UH, DANNY LIMA WITH LONG BEACH UTILITIES TO GIVE A, AN OVERVIEW.

AND YOU'LL ME PASS THESE OUT NOW.

UH, SURE.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

HI EVERYBODY.

HELLO.

HELLO.

THANK YOU.

UM, AS KELLY MENTIONED, MY NAME IS DANNY WATER RESOURCES ANALYST WITH THE WALK BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SHARE THE SPACE WITH ME TODAY.

SO, I'M RUTH GONNA REVIEW.

THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PRESENT.

OH, WHOOPS.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, THERE WE GO.

IT LOOKS MORE LIKE IT.

I WAS LOOKING RIGHT AT IT TOO.

OKAY.

SO, I WORK IN THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THE LONG BEACH WATER DEPARTMENT RECENTLY MERGED WITH THE GAS DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY, BECOMING A ONE STOP SHOP FOR ALL UTILITY NEEDS FOR ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

SO WE OFFER GAS, SEWER, AND WATER SERVICES TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS WITH APPROXIMATELY 500 EMPLOYEES.

AND WE DO PROVIDE GAS TO A SMALL PORTION OF SIGNAL HILL AS WELL.

OUR WATER PORTFOLIO IS COMPRISED OF THREE PRIMARY SOURCES.

55% IS LOCAL GROUNDWATER, 30% IS IMPORTED WATER, AND 15% IS RECYCLED WATER.

AND SO FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE GAS, SEWER, AND WATER.

I SPECIFICALLY WORK IN WATER.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, I WORK IN WATER USE EFFICIENCY.

SO, UM, WHAT I DO IS I DEVELOP PROGRAMS, GO FOR GRANT, GET FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS THAT INCENTIVIZE AND INSPIRE OUR COMMUNITY TO USE WATER MORE, MORE WISELY.

SO BOTH INDOORS AND OUTDOORS.

AND SO TODAY WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE EVEN MORE THAN THESE, BUT THE SLIDE COULD NOT FIT THEM ALL.

BUT TODAY I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF OUR OUTDOOR WATER USE EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS. IT IS A FLAGSHIP TO REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

AND

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ALL OF YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A FLYER ABOUT IT BELONGS GARDEN PROGRAM.

I'M GONNA UNPACK THAT FOR YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT.

SO, OUR LAWSUIT GARDEN PROGRAM FINANCIALLY INCENTIVIZES OUR COMMUNITY TO REMOVE THEIR GRASS AND INSTALL A WATER WISE GARDEN.

WE DO HAVE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT EVERY, UM, APPLICANT MUST ABIDE BY, INCLUDING HAVING THE STORM WATER RETENTION FEATURE, HAVING A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANTS.

BECAUSE THE INTENTION OF THIS PROGRAM IN ALL OF OUR OUTDOOR WATER DE EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS IS NOT JUST TO REDUCE WATER FROM FUNCTION OUTDOORS, BUT IT'S ALSO TO HELLO .

IT'S ALSO TO IMPROVE THE AIR QUALITY AND IMPROVE BIODIVERSITY IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, BUT ALSO TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

THIS PROGRAM IS OFFERED TO CII CUSTOMERS, SO COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, INSTITUTIONAL CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.

SO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY THAT HAS GRASS AND IS AN ACTIVE WATER ACCOUNT HOLDER AND APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE PAY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, COMMERCIAL, INSTITUTIONAL, AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

$3 PER SQUARE FOOT OF GRASS THAT'S TRANS THAT IS TRANSFORMED FROM WATER, I'M SORRY, FROM HIGH WATER USING GRASS TO, UH, A CLIMATE RESILIENT GARDEN.

BUT PUBLIC AGENCIES, INCLUDING ALL THE MARINO BUREAU, NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF THAT IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THEIR SERVICE AREA, UM, AS WELL AS LIBRARIES, LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS, UH, SCHOOLS, ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF PROPERTIES CURRENTLY GET $5 PER SQUARE FOOT OF GRASS THAT'S TRANSFORM GRASS TO A BEAUTIFUL CLIMATE RESILIENT GARDEN.

BUT WE ALSO GIVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER TREE THAT'S INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE YOU WITH A $1,500 OR $3,000 DESIGN REBATE AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO THE DESIGN REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM, KAI IS ONE OF OUR LONG GARDEN DESIGNERS.

AND, UM, WE HAVE A LIST OF ABOUT 16 DESIGNERS ON OUR LONG GARDEN DESIGN REIMBURSEMENT LIST.

THESE DESIGNERS ARE VERY, VERY CAREFULLY VETTED TO ENSURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM PARAMETERS OF THE LON TO GARDEN PROGRAM.

THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO PROPERLY INSTALL DESIGN, STORMWATER RETENTION FEATURES.

UM, AND SO ANY CUSTOMER WHO'S INTERESTED IN APPLYING TO THE LON TO GARDEN PROGRAM, IF THEY ALSO WANNA HAVE ONE OF OUR PROFESSIONALS DESIGN THE PROJECT FOR THEM, EVEN INSTALL IT FOR THEM, WE PAY THEM 1500 UP TO $1,500 FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND $3,000 FOR A PUBLIC AGENCY.

SO, MARINA BUREAU INCLUDED, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WOULD IT BE 3001 TIME MARINE BUREAU? WE HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ALL ACROSS, UH, UM, OUR FOOTPRINT.

IT WOULD IT BE PER FOOTPRINT OR JUST ONE 3000 MONTH PER APPLICATION? SO AS MANY TIMES AS, AS YOU'D LIKE.

COOL.

BUT ALL OF THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF AB 1572.

THIS BILL THAT RECENTLY PASSED IS THE CATALYST TO THE COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE MARINA BUREAU SIR PRIDE FOUNDATION, KAI, AND THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT ABT 72 IS? OKAY, GREAT.

SO LET ME EDUCATE YOU AB 72.

IT'S A BILL THAT PASSED IN OCTOBER, 2023, AND IT'S GOING TO COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE LANDSCAPE IN CALIFORNIA AS WE KNOW IT.

THE A THE, THE, THE BILL IS CALLED A NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF WATERING BAN.

SO IT BANS ALL IRRIGATION OF NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF ON CII PROPERTIES AND THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND BREAK DOWN SOME OF THOSE TERMS. CII MEANS COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

UH, POTABLE WATER IS CLEAN, SAFE DRINKING WATER, SO WATER THAT HAS BEEN TREATED AND YOU USE IT IN YOUR HOMES.

AND, UH, NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF IS CATEGORIZED AS GRASS AREAS IN A PUBLIC SPACE THAT DOESN'T SERVE A PUBLIC USE FUNCTION.

SO THIS IS GRASS THAT'S, UM, PURELY THEREFORE ORNAMENTAL OR DECORATIVE PURPOSES.

MM-HMM.

, FUNCTIONAL TUR.

HELLO.

FUNCTIONAL TURK IS CATEGORIZED AS GRASS AREA WITHIN THE CII PROPERTIES THAT SERVES A PUBLIC FUNCTION.

SO, UH, LET'S SAY FOR A CITY HALL, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY, UM, THE LOCAL EXECUTIVE TEAM LIKES TO USE THE GRASS AREA SURROUNDING THE CITY HALL AS A PUBLIC USE FUNCTION.

THEY LIKE TO, TO DO PRESENTATIONS THERE.

MAYBE THEY DO, UM, A FARMER'S MARKET.

SO IT HAS A PUBLIC USE FUNCTION.

PEOPLE ARE GALVANIZING THE SPACE AND UTILIZING IT SO THE GRASS IS, UM, FUNCTIONAL.

UM, SO IF IT DOESN'T SERVE A FUNCTION, IT'S NON-FUNCTIONAL.

NOW

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I WANNA GO OVER A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF WHAT NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF LOOKS LIKE IN DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTIES.

SO, PUBLIC PROPERTY, THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT CAN GET $5 PER SQUARE FOOT IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE LONZO GARDEN PROGRAM.

RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE, MY CLICKER AREN'T REALLY WORKING.

MY POINTER.

UM, RIGHT HERE WE HAVE THE CITY OF, UH, SIMI VALLEY.

SO THIS CITY HAS, UH, A HUGE GRASS AREA IN THE ENTRYWAY OF THE CITY, WELCOMING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY.

THIS GRASS AREA DOESN'T ACTUALLY SERVE A FUNCTION, SO PEOPLE AREN'T GATHERING IN THE SPACE TO UTILIZE IT FOR PICNICS OR PARTIES.

IT'S JUST GRASS THAT'S DRINKING UP UP TO 70% OF THE WATER BILL.

AND SO IT'S CONSIDERED NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF RIGHT HERE.

WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T CURRENTLY USE ANY OF THIS GRASS FOR ANYTHING.

THEY JUST MOW IT EVERY SUNDAY.

AND, AND THAT'S IT RIGHT HERE.

WE HAVE STREET MEDIANS.

EVERY CITY HAS STREET MEDIANS WITH A LOT OF GRASS.

MM-HMM, .

THIS GRASS IS DRINKING A POTABLE WATER, WHICH IS WATER THAT HAS BEEN TREATED, CONVEYED TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH OR ANY CITY.

IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE.

IT'S REALLY, UH, TIME INTENSIVE, UM, AND USES A LOT OF ENERGY TO TREAT THIS WATER AND CONVEY IT TO THESE DIFFERENT PROPERTY SITES.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK OUT ALL OF THIS NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF THAT'S DRINKING OF ALL THAT WATER, ESPECIALLY IN TIME OF DROUGHT, IT MAKES YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS.

MAYBE STOP IRRIGATING IT WITH THAT PRECIOUS WATER.

THE NEXT SET OF EXAMPLES IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SO HERE WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.

THIS IS THEIR ADMIN BUILDING.

LOTS OF GRASS SURROUNDING THESE SPACES.

THE GRASS IS ACTUALLY NOT BEING UTILIZED AT ALL, BUT, UM, IT'S USING UP A LOT OF WATER, GAS STATION, LOTS OF RUNOFF.

NOBODY'S ACTUALLY USING THIS, THIS, THIS GRASS AT THE GAS STATION, BUT YET IT'S UTILIZING VERY PRECIOUS POTABLE WATER.

AND LAST IS STRIP MALL DOWN BELOW.

NO BUS STOPS RIGHT THERE.

NO BENCHES, NO NOBODY'S GALVANIZING IN THIS SPACE.

THIS JUST GRASS IS DRINKING UP A LOT OF WATER.

IT'S NON-FUNCTIONAL.

SO AS A WATER PROVIDER IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, WE ARE BEING TASKED BY THE STATE TO IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY ON A LOCAL LEVEL.

CREATE MEANINGFUL PROGRAMS, MEANINGFUL RESOURCES TO ASSIST FOLKS WITH BEING COMPLIANT WITH THIS BILL.

SO THERE'S ONE PATHWAY TO COMPLIANCE THAT THE STATE IS ENCOURAGING AND THAT OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM IS CURRENTLY ENCOURAGING AND IS TO ACTUALLY REMOVE ALL OF THAT NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF AND REPLACE IT WITH A BEAUTIFUL CLIMATE RESILIENT GARDEN THAT HAS MULTI BENEFITS, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, IMPROVING AIR QUALITY, MAKING OUR CITY MORE BEAUTIFUL, IMPROVING, INCREASING BIODIVERSITY, ALL THE GOOD STUFF.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE WORKING WITH VARIOUS PUBLIC AGENCIES AND CII CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TO INFORM THEM ABOUT THIS BILL.

'CAUSE MANY FOLKS DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT JUST YET, BUT THEY MUST BE COMPLIANT WITH IT BY CERTAIN DATES.

SO WE'RE DOING THE WORK OF INFORMING EVERYBODY, DEVELOPING MEANINGFUL PROGRAMS AND DEVELOPING MEANINGFUL PARTNERSHIPS WITH, UH, MARINA BUREAU AND FOUNDATION PUBLIC WORKS TO ULTIMATELY ASSIST THEM WITH REMOVING THEIR GRASS AND INSTALLING BEAUTIFUL WATER WISE GARDENS.

AND THESE ARE THE COMPLIANCE DATES FOR EVERYBODY.

PUBLIC PROPERTIES, MARINA BUREAU INCLUDED, MUST BE COMPLIANT BY JANUARY 1ST, 2027.

THAT'S LITERALLY TOMORROW.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, SO LIKE MARKETS AND, AND, AND GAS STATIONS, 2028 HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.

THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE WITH HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, BUT HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS ALSO MUST BE COMPLIANT WITH THIS BILL.

SO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, IT'S THE SHARE SPACES, NOT EXACTLY THE, THE STRIP OF GRASS IN, IN FRONT OF A PROPERTY.

YES.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WHAT DOES DAC STAND FOR? DAC IS DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

GREAT QUESTION.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VERY LAST GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THIS BILL IS DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO ANY COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL INSTITUTIONAL PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS WITHIN A STATE, UM, CATEGORIZED DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY DOESN'T NEED TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THIS BILL UNTIL 2031 OR WHEN FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY BEGIN, UH, THEIR PATH INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THIS BILL.

WHO, WHO PAYS FOR IT FOR YOUR, YOUR, I MEAN, $3 A A SQUARE FOOT, $5? WHO PAYS FOR THAT? GREAT QUESTION.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF EFFORTS AND FUNDING SOURCES.

SO WE ARE A MEMBER AGENCY OF THE METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT.

THAT 30%

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OF IMPORTED WATER THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT WATER, BECAUSE WE'RE A MEMBER AGENCY OF THE METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT, WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY GRANTS THAT THEY RECEIVE, ANY FUNDING THAT THEY HAVE.

SO THEY HAVE A POCKET OF FUNDING AVAILABLE JUST FOR THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE THAT FUNDING TO PAY OUT THESE LOANS TO GARDEN PROJECTS.

BUT WE CAN ONLY PAY OUT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.

SO WE CAN ONLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF $2 PER SQUARE FOOT FROM METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT THAT REST OF THE, LIKE, LET'S SAY THE DOLLAR TO $3, DEPENDING ON IF IT'S A $3 PER SQUARE FOOT OR $5 PER SQUARE FOOT APPLICATION THAT COMES FROM OUR OWN MONEY.

SO, UM, I'M ACTIVELY GOING AFTER GRANTS TO GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL DOLLAR FOR INCENTIVE.

THE $5 PER SQUARE FOOT, THAT'S BECAUSE OF A RECENT GRANT THAT WE GOT AWARDED FROM USBR.

UM, AND WE ALSO, UM, OUR BOARD IS VERY, THEY LOVE THE LAUNCH OF GARDEN PROGRAM, SO THEY ALWAYS ALLOCATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR THIS PROGRAM TOO.

SO EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE GRANT FUNDING OR METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT LENDING, OUR BOARD WILL CONSISTENTLY SUPPORT AT LEAST ONE TO $2 FOR THIS PROGRAM.

SO WE HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL CONSERVATION BUDGET THAT PAYS INTO THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.

AN AVERAGE FRONT LAWN OF SAY SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, I ALREADY IN THE BACKYARD, SO MY BACKYARD IS ABSOLUTELY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THE BACKYARD.

I SHOULDN'T, UM, WHAT'S THE COST? AN AVERAGE, AN AVERAGE FRONT LAWN, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT WOULD BE 65 FEET IN LENGTH BY SAY, 20, 20 FEET.

WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE AN AVERAGE COST TO A HOMEOWNER AFTER YOU'VE GIVEN THEIR DOLLARS? WHAT WOULD A HOMEOWNER HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET? YEAH, IT REALLY DEPENDS AND IT DEPENDS ON THIS, THE SIZE, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, AND ALSO HOW MUCH THE DESIGNER FEES ARE.

UM, SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

UH, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A HOME IN THE VIRGINIA COUNTRY CLUB AREA, AND THOSE LOTS ARE MASSIVE, THE GRASS, LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL LUSH GREEN GRASS, WELL, NOT SO BEAUTIFUL ACTUALLY, BUT LOTS OF GREEN LUSH GRASS, UM, USING A LOT OF WATER.

UM, SO THESE PROPERTIES, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEY PROBABLY ARE GONNA WANNA DO A MORE PERMANENT STORM WATER RETENTION FEATURE, LIKE A DRY RIVER ROCK BED THAT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF BOULDER COSTS AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SOIL GRADING AND SUCH.

COMPARE THAT SIZE AND SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT TO, LET'S SAY, A PROPERTY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S LIKE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, RIGHT? THAT, THAT'S A SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE TO WORK WITH.

BUT ALSO SOME FOLKS OPT TO NOT HAVE A STORM WATER RETENTION FEATURE THAT'S PERMANENT, LIKE A DRY RIVER ROCK BED.

AND THEY FOR LIKE COMPOST AND MULCH, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER THAN A DRY RIVER ROCK BED, SIGNIFICANTLY.

MM-HMM, .

UM, AND MAYBE THEY OPT FOR LESS, UM, OR FOR MORE READILY AVAILABLE PLANTS THAT ARE CHEAPER THAN LET'S SAY, RARE SPECIES AS WELL.

SO EACH PROJECT, UM, HAS A DIFFERENT COST TO IT, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND SCOPE AVERAGE OF, OF AVERAGE VALUES.

WHAT I'M HEARING, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND SCOPE AND WHAT I SEE FROM OUR DATA INTERNALLY IS FOLKS ARE PAYING ANYWHERE BETWEEN $3 PER SQUARE FOOT, ACTUALLY BELOW THAT $2 AND 79 PER SQUARE FOOT UP TO $28 PER SQUARE FOOT.

SO IT'S REALLY DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND SCOPE, UM, OF WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, HOW, UM, HOW RARE, HOW COMPLEX, HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW COMPLEX DO YOU WANT YOUR GARDEN TO LOOK LIKE? KAI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YEAH, KIND OF.

I WAS LIKE LISTENING TO YOUR NUMBERS.

UM, BUT UM, YEAH, SO IF IT'S A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, UM, THE $3 IS PROBABLY GONNA COVER THE TURF REMOVAL PART.

SO, AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN, I'D SAY ON AVERAGE LIKE 12 TO 15 A SQUARE FOOT.

SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, SO SAY A 12 TO $15,000 GARDEN, YOU CAN GET THREE, 3000 BACK.

SO, SO IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE FOR ANY OF THE HOMEOWNERS TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT THEIR WATER RATES ALREADY GOING UP.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT JUST THE WATER RATES GOING UP.

THE COST OF SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BE BETTER AND HEALTHIER AND HAVE A, UH, UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM 15 TO 20 YEARS TO PAY THAT OFF OF WHAT THEIR RAW WATER RATE WOULD BE.

UH, JUST A LITTLE F FRUSTRATION FOR HOMEOWNERS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE DEMANDING TO DO IT.

THEY JUST LET THEIR FRONT LAWNS DIE AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS GO DOWN.

I THINK WITH, WITH THE SUBSIDIZED PRICE OF WATER, IT'S AS A STRICT MONEY SAVING PROPOSITION, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA PAY FOR ITSELF RIGHT AWAY.

RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE YOUR PROPERTY VALUE IS GONNA BE GREATER.

I SEE REASONABLE VALUES GO UP, UNIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AS LONG AS COMING INTO MY HEAD, PAVE PARADISE, PUT UP A PARKING LOT.

NO.

SO COMMISSIONERS, LET'S, LET'S GET THROUGH

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THE PRESENTATION.

YES.

GOT QUESTIONS AT THE END.

GOT IT.

YES SIR.

GO FROM THERE.

UM, ALSO, ONE MORE THING TO ADD.

UM, OUR RESIDENTS, THEY DECIDE TO DO THE GRASS REMOVAL AND, AND THE INSTALLATION ALL ON THEIR OWN SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS.

UM, IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN AN ADDITIONAL $12 PER SQUARE, BUT I BELIEVE KAY ARE PROBABLY SPEAKING FROM THE DESIGNER POINT OF VIEW, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DOING MOST OF THE WORK FOR THE RESIDENT, MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS OPT TO DO DIY PROJECTS, SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

GREAT QUESTION.

UM, NOW I KNOW WE'RE STRUCK FOR TIME.

SO, UH, REALLY QUICKLY, LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT BEGAN WORKING WITH THE MARINA BUREAU LATE LAST YEAR TO ASSIST THEM WITH TRANSFORMING ALL OF THEIR NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION AREA TO BEAUTIFUL WATER WISE GARDENS THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY CAN ENJOY.

AND LUCKILY, TODD AND JEFF AND KELLY, THEY'VE BEEN SO INCREDIBLE AND ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT ALL OF THESE INCREDIBLE TRANSFORMATIONS.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'VE ENTERED INTO A MULTI-YEAR COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH MARIA AND THE SURF RIDER FOUNDATION TO TRANSFORM ALL THE CURRENTLY DEFINED NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF WITHIN THE MARINA BUREAU TO CLIMATE RESILIENT GARDENS, UM, THAT CONTAINS STORMWATER RETENTION FEATURES, BEAUTIFUL PLANT PALLETS.

AND THIS IS ONE PROJECT WE RECENTLY DID AT THE HARBOR MASTER'S OFFICE.

AND THIS WAS DESIGNED BY KAI CRAIG.

AND, UM, MOST OF THE WORK WAS CONDUCTED BY OUR TWO INCREDIBLE FELLOWS, LAURA AND VERONICA WHO MUCH, AND, UH, MR. FIGHTER FOUNDATION AS WELL.

AND THIS IS THE SECOND PROJECT THAT WE DID.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SHUT UP AND LET HI CRAIG AND SURF FIGHTER FOUNDATION.

KATIE, COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PLANT PALACE THAT I HOPE YOU ALL WORD JOY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME'S KATIE.

I WORK WITH THE SURF WRITER FOUNDATION.

UM, WE'RE A NATIONAL NON-PROFIT IS FOR, UM, PROTECTING CLEAN WATER FOR OUR OCEANS, WAVES, AND BEACHES SO EVERYONE CAN ENJOY THEM.

UM, AND WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT TO HAVE HEALTHY WATERWAYS, WE NEED TO HAVE HEALTHY WATERSHEDS THAT LEAD TO THEM.

SO THAT INCLUDES LANDSCAPES ON LAND.

UM, ALL THE, OUR BIG FOCUS IS ON STORM WATER CAPTURE AND PREVENTION.

UM, SO ALL OF THE PAVED SURFACES THAT WE SEE OUTSIDE ALL OF THE PARKING LOTS AND SIDEWALKS AND EVEN YOUR ROOFS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, PREVENTS WATER FROM SOAKING BACK INTO THE GROUND HOW IT NORMALLY WOULD.

AND, UM, AS CLIMATE CHANGE BECOMES MORE, MORE, MORE OF A PROBLEM, WE'RE SEEING THESE IMPACTS IN, UM, RESILIENCE TO, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY FLOODING, UM, TO URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE INTERCONNECTED.

UM, AND OUR PROGRAM IS REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR OCEAN FARM LIKE ARTS PROGRAM, UM, ADVOCATES FOR KIND OF TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO GET INVOLVED, UM, IN CREATING THESE CHANGES IN THEIR OWN YARDS.

AND ALSO KIND OF DOING THESE COLLABORATIVE COMMUNITY PROJECTS THAT EVERYONE CAN FEEL GOOD ABOUT AND RETURN BACK TO, UM, AND CELEBRATE AND REALLY GIVING THEM THE SKILLS TO GO HOME AND DO IT THEMSELVES.

UM, YEAH, SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE DID WITH, UM, AT DOWN AT SHORELINE VILLAGE.

IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NOW THAT THERE'S A, UM, THIS IS BEFORE IT WAS FINISHED, SO THERE IS A NICE DJ PATHWAY WALKING THROUGH THERE.

UM, THE, THEY'RE ALSO, A LOT OF THE PLANTS ARE ALREADY HUGE, ALREADY TAKEN OFF.

UM, IT'S BEEN REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THESE THINGS HAPPEN, BUT IT REALLY ADDS SO MUCH BIODIVERSITY.

AND THIS AREA, YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE HERE, THIS IS A RAIN BASIN OR A RAIN GARDEN, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE COLLECTING WATER FROM THIS ROOF HERE.

UM, THERE IS NOW A GUTTER SYSTEM AND PIPES THAT LEAD DOWN INTO THIS RAIN GARDEN BASIN, UM, COLLECTING ALL THAT STORM WATER RUNOFF SO IT DOESN'T JUST FLOW DIRECTLY INTO THE BAY AND ADD TO THE POLLUTION.

UM, SO THIS IS MORE SO LIKE A DEMONSTRATION OF PEOPLE CAN IMAGINE IT IN THEIR OWN HOME, CREATING A RAIN GARDEN, UM, WITH THIS TINY LITTLE HOUSE SHAPED SHED RIGHT HERE.

UM, SO HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF OUR VOLUNTEERS IN ACTION THAT SHORELINE VILLAGE ONE.

UM, WE REMOVED ALL OF THE GRASS BY HAND, .

IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE, UM, AND DEFINITELY SOME REALLY AWESOME VOLUNTEERS HELPING OUT WITH THAT, REALLY DEDICATED PEOPLE.

AND IT'S REALLY A GREAT WAY TO GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND BE INVESTED IN THESE SPACES.

AND THEY TELL YOU LIKE, OH, I GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEM ON MY WALKS OR BIKE RIDES AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE IT GROW AND CHANGE.

UM, AND HERE IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE MARINA HEADQUARTERS AS PLANTING THERE.

UM, THIS ONE HAS A MORE LIKE SUBTLE RAIN BASIN IN THE MIDDLE, BUT IT'S STILL DOING THAT ALL THE WORK TO CAPTURE ANY SORT OF, ANY RAIN WATER THAT FALLS ONTO THE SITE.

UM, SO ALL OF THE PROJECTS NEXT YEAR WILL ALSO HAVE THESE ELEMENTS OF, UM, SORRY, SPOILERS, , UM, OF ALSO TRYING

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TO, UM, COLLECT STORM WATER HOWEVER WE CAN, AND REALLY INCREASING THE BIODIVERSITY OF THESE AREAS AND SETTING A REALLY BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY AS WELL.

UM, ALSO IT'S SO IMPORTANT WITH THE PROXIMITY TO LOS CERIAL WETLANDS AND OTHER SENSITIVE HABITATS TO REALLY INCREASE THE CONNECTIVITY OF THESE HABITATS.

UM, AND ALSO, IT'S SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE.

'CAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE OCEAN, PEOPLE CAN REALLY MAKE THE CONNECTION CURRENT.

YEAH.

AND THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO KAI TO TALK ABOUT SOME FUTURE .

OKAY.

THANKS KATIE.

UM, THANKS FOR HAVING US EVERYONE.

UM, I'M KAI CRAIG.

I STARTED, UH, MY DESIGN BUILD STUDIO BACK IN 2010, WHICH WAS KIND OF WHEN LAUNCH THE GARDEN BEGAN.

AND SO I'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF GROW RIGHT ALONGSIDE THAT ASIDE THAT PROGRAM AND SEEING IT DEVELOP INTO KIND OF THESE MORE PUBLIC SPACES IS REALLY EXCITING FOR ME.

UM, AND IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROBLEM, RIGHT? UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS OUR NEXT PROJECT WE'RE PLANNING.

SO IS THAT GONNA BE NEXT MONTH? IT'S NOVEMBER 16TH IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME HERE.

SO IF YOU WANNA COME DOWN AND HELP, HELP PLANT AND LEARN ABOUT THE PROCESS.

AWESOME.

UM, BUT, UM, SO, UH, I, I WAS, UM, PROPOSED LIKE CREATING THESE TEMPLATES FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS NEXT BIG PUSH, WHICH IS TO, UH, CONVERT SOME OF THE NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF WITHIN THE MARINE, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MARINE BUREAU, UM, TO TRANSITION FROM TURF TO LOW WATER, UM, HABITAT.

AND, UH, I WAS, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, NATIVE WITH A PLANT LIST DEVELOPED FOR THE CIP UH, PLAN.

I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT, UM, THE PLANTS, YOU KNOW, WERE ALL NATIVE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LOCAL TO THE AREA.

UM, BUT THIS ISN'T RESTORATION, RIGHT? WE'RE DEVELOPING, UM, PLANT PALLETS THAT CAN BE USED IN THESE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF HEAVILY USED AREAS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE IDENTITY OF OUR WATERFRONT.

SO THE IDEA WAS BEFORE WE JUST TAKE THESE KIND OF IN A PIECEMEAL WAY, LET'S COME UP WITH SOME PLANT PALLETS AND DEVELOP A STRATEGY FOR THE DIFFERENT, UM, AREAS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH.

RIGHT? OOPS.

SO, UM, SO THIS, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THREE, UH, DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE, UH, KIND OF THE DIFFERENT PLANT COMMUNITIES THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN THIS AREA, WHICH, UH, WE HAVE LIKE THE ROCKY COAST, WHICH ARE KIND OF PLANTS LIKE, UH, THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THE CHANNEL ISLANDS OR MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, COASTAL BAJA.

UM, THEN WE HAVE THE COASTAL SAGE SCRUB, WHICH WAS THE PREDOMINANT NATIVE PLANT COMMUNITY OF THE AREA.

AND, UH, COASTAL PRAIRIE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS EVEN MORE, UM, WHICH IS ALMOST GONE, YOU KNOW, IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

BUT IT'S A GREAT INSPIRATION.

SO, SO THEY'RE INSPIRED BY THOSE PLANT COMMUNITIES.

THIS ISN'T RESTORATION.

WE'RE TAKING THOSE PLANT THOSE PLANTS AND PUTTING THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMPATIBLE, UM, ECOLOGICALLY AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR OWN VISUAL IDENTITY SO THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY, HEY, LET'S USE THIS ONE HERE AND TRY TO ADAPT IT TO THIS AREA.

SO JUST TO RUN THROUGH THESE QUICKLY, UM, WE HAVE A ROCKY COAST AND THIS IS LIKE A LOW HEIGHT.

UM, AND THESE ARE KIND OF GOOD FOR MAYBE SOME OF THOSE MEDIANS OR REALLY LIKE, KIND OF TOUGH SITES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE IRRIGATION FOR.

UM, THERE'S SOME SPIKY THINGS IN THERE THAT WERE ON THE LIST, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE IT'S A GOOD KIND OF DEFENSE IF WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE LIKE USING THOSE AREAS.

UM, THERE'S A TALL VERSION OF THAT.

UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF YOU WANT IT FOR LIKE A WIND BREAK OR A VISUAL BARRIER, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, THERE'S ALSO KIND OF THE NEAR SHORE, LIKE SOME OF THE AREAS, MAYBE LIKE THE BEACH PARKING LOTS WHERE YOU GET A LOT OF SALT SPRAY.

UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL LIKE FLOWERING LOW PLANTS.

UM, THE POLLINATORS REALLY, LIKE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, USE WILDFLOWERS IN THOSE AREAS.

UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ROCKY SHORE.

AND THEN THE COASTAL SAGE SCRUB KIND OF SIMILAR LIKE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF COLOR.

MM-HMM, .

UM, THIS IS LIKE A LOW PALETTE.

UM, AND I THINK I THINK OF THIS ONE AS KIND OF AN ACCENT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY KIND OF, UM, DETAILED AREA THAT WE, WE WANT TO REALLY DRAW ATTENTION TO AND MAKE LOOK PRETTY.

UM, THEN THERE'S KIND OF LIKE YOUR LARGE SCALE GROUND COVERS, WHICH WE COULD USE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PLANTS GROW 10 FEET ACROSS, SO

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IF WE HAVE A BIG EXTENSIVE AREA WE NEED TO CONVERT, WE CAN PLANT THOSE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENTLY, UM, DO THAT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

GREAT FOR, UH, STABILIZING SLOPES AS WELL.

MM HMM.

COOL.

WE HAVE LIKE A TALL SAFE SCRUB.

UM, SO MAYBE SOMETHING, MAYBE LIKE SOMETHING LIKE IN THIS BIG LARGE ROUNDABOUT OVER HERE MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE A SECOND.

AND APPIAN WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONE PLANT GROWS LIKE EIGHT OR 10 FEET ACROSS AND WE NEED TO FILL IN A BIG AREA.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS FANTASTIC HABITAT FOR, FOR BIRDS AND, UM, AS WELL, UM, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE MEANT TO BE A STARTING POINT, SO WE CAN CHANGE OUT TREES, WE CAN ADAPT THEM TO THE SITE.

EVERY SITE'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT.

UM, AND THEN THE COASTAL PRAIRIE IS REALLY, UM, USES A LOT OF THOSE, UM, UH, PLANTS FROM THE, LIKE FOR BIO FILTRATION, LIKE IF WE HAVE A SWALE OR A LOW SPOT THAT IS SEASONALLY WET, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE NEW LAWN, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S GRASSY, IT'S GREEN, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, IT'S DESIGNED THAT YOU COULD CHOP IT BACK LIKE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

UM, SO UNLIKE A HOME, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE DEALING WITH EXTENSIVE AREAS.

WE WANT MAKE THIS EASY TO MAINTAIN FOR SOME OF THE CITY AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN USED TO JUST TAKING CARE OF TUR.

UM, SO WE HAVE TALLER GRASSES THAT CAN MAKE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A THICKER BARRIER OR A FILTER STRIP MAYBE NEXT TO A PARKING LOT.

UM, AND THEN HERE'S KIND OF LIKE JUST A BLUE TONED PALETTE.

THAT BLUE ADAPTATION THAT PLANTS HAVE MAKES THEM MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT.

IT'S A GOOD, UM, AND IT JUST LIKE, KIND OF LOOKS COOL, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE ONE THAT WE USED IN THIS NEXT ROUNDABOUT ABOUT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THESE PALLETS AND REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO HELP, HELP DEVELOP THOSE.

SO, UM, I'VE GOT A BOOK THAT'S KIND OF GOT THE, THIS, UH, WHAT CLIENTS ARE ACTUALLY IN THOSE, IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THAT.

GREAT.

YEAH.

GREAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

UM, I'M A CHARTER MEMBER OF THE LONG BEACH CHAPTER OF SURF RIDER FOUNDATION.

SO GO WAY BACK ON THE OCEAN FRIENDLY GARDEN CONCEPT WAY BACK IN THE DAY.

MY HUSBAND IS THE FORMER REGIONAL, UH, POLICY GUY FOR CALIFORNIA BACK IN THE DAY, HAPPILY RETIRED.

BUT THIS IS SO CRITICAL WHAT PEOPLE SEE IN OUR PUBLIC SPACES IS SO EASILY CONVERTED TO PRIVATE.

SO I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS AT THAT, BUT I THINK THE BEAUTY THAT YOU'RE BRINGING INTO THESE PUBLIC AREAS SO EASILY TRANSFERRED.

PEOPLE CAN SEE IT, THEY CAN PLANT IT AND ENJOY IT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WELL DONE.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I LOOK AT GARDENS TOO.

IS ANY GARDENING A PART OF THAT? BECAUSE IN LONG BEACH UP IN THE NORTH LONG BEACH AREA AND STUFF, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING FOR PUBLIC GARDENS.

I MEAN, NOT GARDENS LIKE THIS, GARDENS FOR FOOD, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IS THAT EVEN A, IS THAT EVEN DOABLE, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DOING THOSE TYPE OF, UH, LANDSCAPING TO LOOK AT, NOT GRASS BUT GARDENS, I MEAN JUST NEIGHBORHOOD GARDENS ON SOME PEOPLE'S, I MEAN, GOING TO THAT, THAT SIDE OF IT TOO.

IS THAT DROUGHT TOLERANT OR GENERALLY WITH, SORRY, DID YOU WANNA TAKE THIS? NO, I GOT, OKAY.

GENERALLY WITH FOOD GROWING PLANTS, UM, I THINK THAT FOOD GROWING PLANTS HAVE SO MANY BENEFITS IN LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CONNECTIVITY, RIGHT? AND LIKE ACCESS TO FOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY GARDENS WILL HAVE ELEMENTS WHERE THEY GROW FOOD AND THE AREAS WHERE THEY GROW FOOD, WHICH ARE MUCH HIGHER WATER USE.

IT'S JUST HOW THE DRY PLANTS ARE.

ALL THAT WATER GOES INTO MAKING THE FRUIT AND THE THINGS WE LIKE TO EAT AND VEGETABLES.

UM, THOSE ARE GONNA BE HIGHER WATER USE.

IF THEY'RE PAIRED WITH LIKE LOWER WATER USE KIND OF PLANTS, LIKE THE ONES IN OUR DESIGNS HERE.

UM, THERE CAN REALLY BE A HEALTHY BALANCE.

AND THEN ALSO THE BIODIVERSITY FROM THE NATIVE PLANTS CAN REALLY TRANSFER INTO BRINGING IN POLLINATORS THAT ARE GONNA HELP YOUR FOOD PLANTS AND STUFF.

UM, FOOD PLANTS ARE ALSO, I COMMEND ANYONE WHO GARDENS FOR FOOD.

IT IS A LOT OF WORK.

IT IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE, TIME INTENSIVE.

YOU'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY AND LIKE TRYING TO KEEP THINGS PEST FREE AND TRIMMED AND HARVESTED AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY LIKE A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF GARDENING.

UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO SET THESE THINGS UP TO SUCCEED LONG TERM FOR HOW OUR NATURAL HABITAT

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DOES.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M GONNA PUT THIS UP TO OUR COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE COMMENTS PLEASE.

I HAVE QUESTION.

UM, FIRST I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE DIRECTED TO OUR LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, HOW ELSE ARE, UM, WE'RE IN ANY, ANY GEOGRAPHY THAT'S BY WATER IS MORE ADVANTAGE.

HOW ARE WE ENGAGING WITH OUR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ENGAGE THEM ON THESE IMPORTANT, UM, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT STEPS GOING FORWARD? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, SO I WANNA TOUCH ON, UM, MR. MCG GRAY'S, UH, QUESTION REALLY QUICKLY.

FIRST, THAT TREE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, THE TREE REBATE, A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER TREE THAT YOU INSTALL IN YOUR GARDEN.

WE ARE, UM, ASKING FOLKS TO ALSO INSTALL CITRUS FRUIT TREES, GREAT BANANA TREES, EVEN AVOCADO TREES.

YOU KNOW, THEY USE A LOT OF WATER.

SO WE WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO NO ALMONDS, NO KIDDING .

NO ALMONDS.

NO ALMONDS.

UM, SO WE, WE, WE ARE ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO, UM, INSTALL FREE TREES WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, 'CAUSE WE SEE THE VALUE IN THAT, BUT ALSO WE, WE ALLOW FOLKS TO ALSO HAVE LIKE, UM, RAISED GARDEN BEDS IF THEY WANNA DO A COMBINATION OF CALIFORNIA NATIVE GARDEN AND A RAISED GARDEN BED.

BUT THEY DON'T GET REBATED FOR THE RAISED GARDEN BED SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY TARGETING OUR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE LAUNCH OF GARDEN PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE A LAUNCH OF GARDEN PROGRAM SPECIFIC TO, UM, FOLKS LIVING IN DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY.

SO WE PAY FOR THE ENTIRE GARDEN INSTALLATION FOR THE CUSTOMER.

WE REMOVE THE GRASS, INSTALL THE GARDEN, UH, UPDATE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, PAY FOR ALL THE PLANTS, PAY FOR THE LABOR AT NO COST TO THEM.

WE ARE ALSO DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH WORK WITH OUR TWO INCREDIBLE FELLOWS WHO ARE ACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO VARIOUS STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITIES IN DISADVANTAGED, UM, AREAS OF THE CITY.

SO WE CAN DO PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS AND WE ASK THEM, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO BETTER SERVE YOU? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO CREATE, UH, PROGRAMS THAT ARE MEANINGFUL TO YOU? WHETHER IT'S, UM, A HIGH BILLING PROGRAM, UH, ANOTHER TURF REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, INDOOR REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, UM, ET CETERA.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE PRIORITY, A HUGE FOCUS FOR US.

WELL DONE.

QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

UM, ON THE ISSUE OF, UH, DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, UM, THE WATER DEPARTMENT WAS CONTRACTING WITH THE CONSERVATION CORPS OF LONG BEACH.

AND THAT IS A JOB TRAINING PROGRAM AND ALSO, UH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, PROGRAM.

AND THE, UH, YOUNG COMMUNITIES BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18, 18 6 YEAR OLDS WERE WORKING ON THOSE LONG PROBLEM AND THEY THEMSELVES WERE GETTING JOBS.

, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT PROGRAM PROVIDES A PIPELINE TO GET GOOD VALUE MIDDLE CLASS JOBS AT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH FOR THOSE CONSERVATION BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

I SIT ON THE BOARD.

SUPER.

YES.

UM, I SEE A RECENT PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WITH RESPECT TO ONLY PARKWAY CHANGES.

SO CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT? THAT IS THE LONG GARDEN OR OCEAN FRIENDLY GARDEN CONCEPT JUST FOR PARKWAY.

YEAH.

SO THE PARKWAY PROGRAM, I DIDN'T, UM, ASK KELLY TO PASS OUT THESE FLYERS, BUT WE DO HAVE A NATIVE PLANT PARKWAY PROGRAM AND, UH, THIS PROGRAM WE PAY FOR THE STEPPING STONES, THE MULCH, THE UM, THE CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT KITS.

AND WE ALSO PAY FOR THE DELIVERY AT NO COST TO THE CUSTOMER.

ALL THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM IS, DO YOU? THANK YOU.

UM, ALL THEY NEED TO DO TO QUALIFY FOR THIS NATIVE PLANT PARKWAY PROGRAM IS, THANK YOU, IS BE AN ACTIVE LONG BEACH UTILITIES, UH, WATER ACCOUNT HOLDER, AND ALSO HAVE GRASS IN THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING THIS PROGRAM TO HOAS IN THE COMMUNITY TO ASSIST THEM AS WELL.

UM, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM.

IT'S COMPLETELY FREE AND I LOVE IT.

ONE QUESTION ON THAT.

I'D LOVE ONE OF THOSE.

YOU GOTTA GIMME ONE OF THOSE CARDS.

OF COURSE.

WE'LL DO IT RIGHT OFF.

AND YOU GUYS WILL COME AND DESIGN.

YES, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.

AGAIN, LIABILITIES.

YEAH, I LOOK AT LIABILITIES BECAUSE WHEN YOU LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SCHOOL, PEOPLE GET OUT, THEY PULL IN THE PARKWAY, THEY LET THEIR KIDS OUT.

'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM A SCHOOL OR A COLLEGE.

ME TOO.

YEAH.

WHAT, WHAT? I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT IT, UH, , I MEAN IT IS GONNA BE INTERESTING PEOPLE GETTING OUT AND RUNNING OVER THOSE.

JEN, JUST THROWING IT OUT.

I KNOW WE HAVE TO GET, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING.

I KEEP MOVING.

I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER THOUGHT OF IT, IS THE CITY TAKES ALL LIABILITY ON THE PARKWAYS.

CORRECT.

SO, SO THE

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CITY OWNS THE THANK YOU.

THE CITY OWNS PARKWAYS, RIGHT? BUT WHOEVER OWNS THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE PARKWAY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE PARKWAY.

I UNDERSTAND MAINTAINING, BUT WHEN THEY DO THAT DROUGHT TOLERANCE, SOMEBODY GETS OUT, SLIP ON THE ROCK, WHATEVER OF THAT NATURE, IT GOES BACK ON THE HOMEOWNER.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND NOT THE CITY.

THAT'S AGAIN, MY WORRY FROM SEEING SOME OF THE AREAS IN, IN BELMONT SHORE THAT YOU GET OUT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PULL THERE BECAUSE THEY GOT CACTUSES, THEY GOT THINGS.

BUT IF YOU FALL UNDER IT, THAT OWNER, UH, IS LIABLE FOR THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DROUGHT TOLERANT, UH, UH, THING.

SO QUESTION.

WE HAVE STEPPING STONES, UH, BECAUSE WE ABIDE MUNICIPAL CODE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

GREAT.

SO THE STEPPING STONES, WE ENSURE THAT, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM HAVE, UM, PATHWAYS WHERE IF SOMEBODY'S EXITING THEIR VEHICLE AND TRYING TO GET ONTO THE SIDEWALK INTO THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE VARIOUS PATHWAYS AVAILABLE TO THEM SO THEY WON'T HOPEFULLY FALL INTO RIGHT.

WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS IN THIS PROGRAM THAT, UM, STICK PEOPLE AND THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE OF, OF THAT ISSUE.

GREAT.

COMMISSIONER.

SO I JUST, UH, WANNA, FIRST OF ALL, APOLOGIZE BEING LATE.

UM, I JUST WENT THROUGH, UH, BOTH THE LAWN GARDEN PROGRAM AND THE PARKWAY PROGRAM AND I HAVE TO REALLY COMMEND THE FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, RUNNING THESE PROGRAMS. 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE A LOT EASIER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

AND I WAS ALWAYS INTIMIDATED TO START A PROJECT NOT KNOWING I COULD FINISH IT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, HOW EASY IT WAS TO REACH OUT AND TALK AND, AND GET SOME GUIDELINES.

SO I JUST WANT TO DO A THUMBS UP FOR THAT.

I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS MORE THAN ONCE IN THIS ROOM, BUT, UM, I HOPE IT CAME UP DURING THIS DISCUSSION THAT BASICALLY NOW, UM, LOS ANGELES IS BUILT OUT.

SO IN ORDER TO HAVE HABITAT FOR THE NATIVE, UH, CREATURES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE FOREVER, WE HAVE TO CREATE IT ON OUR PROPERTIES, IN OUR YARDS, IN OUR PARKWAYS OR, UM, SPECIES ENDEMIC TO THIS AREA WILL BE GONE.

SO YOU MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF, UH, PROTECTING THE ECOLOGY AND THE BIOLOGY OF THIS AREA.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING I WANTED TO SAY IS, AS I WATCH MY NEIGHBOR TEAR OUT HIS OLD LAWN, PUT IN A NEW LAWN WITH A SPRINKLER SYSTEM, BUT IT'S HIS BUSINESS, WHAT HE'S GONNA DO, IT SURE WOULD SURPRISE ME IF DOWN THE ROAD WATER'S GONNA GET A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE AND DROUGHTS ARE GONNA GET PRETTY EXTREME AND PEOPLE MAY JUST WANNA SORT OF CONSIDER THE COST EFFICIENCY OF BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO WILL SAVE YOU MONEY.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ANY COMMENTS? WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO A PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME PLEASE? OH YEAH, MY NAME'S RICHARD WINSLOW.

UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, USE OF RECYCLED WATER, UH, IN THIS, I, I GUESS GOLF COURSES USE RECYCLED WATER.

IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, WAY TO ATTACH SOME OF THESE? THEY DON'T REALLY USE MUCH WATER TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.

UH, YEAH, SO WE, WE DO USE RECYCLED.

15% OF OUR, UH, WATER PORTFOLIO CONSISTS OF RECYCLED WATER.

THAT RECYCLED WATER IS USED FOR SOME STREET MEDIANS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND GOLF COURSES.

IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, INCREASING, EXPANDING RECYCLED WATER TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ANY UTILITY, UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE IT YET.

AND WORKING WITH UTILITIES FOR UPS PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE LINE THAT COMES IN IN REGARDS TO THAT.

SO THE COST FACTOR OF THEM RUNNING A LINE JUST FOR ONE PERSON, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AND, UH, .

YEAH.

PRICEY.

YEAH.

PRICEY, SIR.

TIM? ICK.

I'M WITH THE, UH, BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

THANKS, TIM.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE CALLING HIM.

YEP.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS THE ONLY ONE I SAW.

UM, THE, I I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING SPECIFICALLY IN THE MARINA AREAS, BUT THIS DOES APPLY TO ALL THE PUBLIC AREAS.

YOU KNOW, IF WE TAKE OUT THE, THE GRASS MEETINGS BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE GATES, UM, UH, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS THERE AND THERE'S, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY DOG AREAS.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT PART OF ANY PRO PROCESS IN CALIFORNIA.

'CAUSE GOVERNOR TOOK THAT OUT.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR, FOR, FOR THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A PLACE FOR, FOR THEM TO WALK THEIR DOGS AND TAKE CARE OF IT? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

AND WE ARE HEAVILY CONSIDERING THAT WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING OUR ORDINANCE LANGUAGE FOR THIS BILL FOR AP 1572, WE HAVE NOT LAUNCHED OR WE HAVE NOT INTRODUCED THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE TO OUR BOARD YET OR TO THE CITY OF BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF NUANCES WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

DO WE NEED TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION FOR THESE SPACES FOR THIS, THESE GRASS SPACES FOR PETS

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TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES OR NOT? UM, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE RESEARCH PHASE OF DEVELOPING THE ORDINANCE AND IN THAT RESEARCH CASE, WE ARE ENSURING THAT WE ARE THINKING OF EVERY POTENTIAL ISSUE THAT COULD ARISE FROM THIS BILL AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, A STRATEGY IN PLACE TO TACKLE THOSE POTENTIAL ISSUES.

LIKE THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.

THAT'S, THAT'S ON OUR LIST.

YEAH.

SO TBD, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.

YES.

UM, ALSO IN OUR EXPERIENCE IN LIKE PLANTING CERTAIN GARDENS, UM, THAT ARE LIKE THIS AND IN LIKE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, WE WON'T BE PLANTING ANY CACTUS, ANYTHING THAT ANYONE COULD GET HURT ON.

UM, BUT DOGS LOVE RUNNING IN THIS STUFF AND PEEING IN THIS STUFF ANYWAY.

LIKE ALL OF THESE KIND OF NATIVE PLANT GARDEN AREAS, THEY LOVE RUNNING THROUGH IT, EXPLORING IT.

UM, AND DOG DOGS PEEING ON THINGS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.

A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN CERTAIN ROCKS OR LIKE TARGET AREAS THAT THEY'LL ALL PEE ON, KIND OF LIKE A FIRE.

THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT NUMBER TWO, NUMBER TWO IN, IN A, IN A ROCK SETTING, LIKE THAT REMOVES PRODUCT WITHIN TIME YOU'RE REMOVING THE ROCK AND I'VE GOT IT IN MY BACKYARD AND THAT'S WHAT YOU END UP DOING OF REMOVING SOME OF THE PRODUCT.

WE YEAH, WE DON'T, UM, YEAH, JUST, JUST PUTTING OUT THERE THAT LIKE I, I'VE SEEN DOGS THOROUGHLY ENJOY THESE CHOICES AND I I HAVE A DOG MYSELF AND I, THAT'S SOMETHING THE MORNING WILL ADDRESS.

THAT'S WHAT FORWARD WITH THIS.

YEAH.

WE DO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE DO HAVE LIVER BOARDS AT LOCATIONS THAT DO HAVE THAT.

WELL THE NONS DON'T EITHER.

NON BOARD, I MEAN THERE WELL, YEAH.

EVERY, EVERY PERSON THAT COMES DOWN ON THE WEEKEND IS BRINGING A DOG NOW, LIKE EVERY PERSON.

SO, SO THAT BECOMES FUNCTIONAL.

SURE.

WE NEED IT BECOMES FUNCTIONAL TERM.

WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

SORRY, JUST A QUICK ONE.

I'M ASSUMING SINCE IT'S AB THIS IS FOR THE STATE, NOT JUST FOR LONG.

YES, YES.

FOR THE STATE.

YOUR NAME AGAIN TOO.

OH, I'M SORRY.

JOAN PALANGO.

ALRIGHT.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

OH, Y'ALL, ONE MORE.

OF COURSE.

OF COURSE.

, UH, LOOKING AT THIS, I'M TEMPTED TO TAKE OUT THE LOW WATER PLANTS.

I HAVE PUT IN SOME TURF JUST SO I CAN HAVE YOU COME AND DO IT.

, UM, A LOT OF WATER GOT WASTED TODAY BY A WATER MAIN BREAKING IN NORTH LONG BEACH, I THINK.

UH, IS THAT DUE TO INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS OR A ONE OFF ACCIDENT? I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, TO THE QUESTION.

UM, I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS AN, UM, A MAIN BREAK AND THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON REMEDYING IT AND ENSURING THE WATER QUALITY IS A TO DATE.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S CURRENTLY ALL HANDS ON DECK AND IT'S THE MAIN PRIORITY FOR THE ENTIRE AGENCY AT THE MOMENT.

HOWEVER, UM, I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE ACTUAL ISSUE WAS.

UM, I I, I DUNNO, I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S A BOIL IN THAT AREA.

WE ALL GOT THE, THE, THE EMERGENCY THINGS OUT, SO IT'S A BOIL IN THE AREA.

BUT AGAIN, YEAH, BUT THE, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

THE EMERGENCY, UH, CALL DIDN'T COME OUT TILL CLOSE AROUND NOON.

IS THIS THE AGENDA ITEM? I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER.

THE ACCIDENT IS MUCH, MUCH PUBLIC COMMENT HAS TO STICK DIRECTLY TO, OKAY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT ONE.

SO, UH, UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, WELL, I SAID WATER WAS BEING WASTED.

UH, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR IRRIGATING .

OKAY, GOTCHA.

ON THAT ONE.

GOOD, GOOD, GOOD ON THAT SAYING NO OTHER, UH, COMMENTS.

WE ARE GOING TO, UH, MOVE, UM, THE PRESENTATION FOR RECEIVING FILE.

UM, WE DO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

1849 NORTH BRITAIN DRIVE.

YOU CAN START TOMORROW.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BACK TO NUMBER TWO.

WE'RE GOING BACK TO NUMBER TWO FOLKS.

WE'LL LET THEM FOLKS.

WE'RE GONNA, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT COUNCIL DISTRICTS RAISES REFERRAL BY NAMING THE NEW JUNIOR LIFEGUARD FACILITY AT THE CLAREMONT SMALL BOAT LAUNCH RAMP TO THE PAT FLYNN AND DICK MILLER JUNIOR LIFEGUARD FACILITY, UH, TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND I SEEK, UH, UH, MOVE ON THAT SECOND.

WE WILL GO TO, UM, FIRST ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR YOU'RE GONNA DO IT.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE DO HAVE A, UH, MEMBER OF, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE STAFF HERE, UH, SOPHIE COLEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, TALK ABOUT THIS RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

HELLO.

UM, MY NAME'S SOPHIE KELLY.

I AM COUNCIL MEMBER DUG FIELD DEPUTY.

UM, SO I HAVE A

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LOT OF FACTS FOR YOU GUYS.

I'M GONNA BE LOOKING AT MY PHONE.

UM, BUT SO, UH, LAST YEAR, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY OPENED THE NEW JUNIOR LIFEGUARD FACILITY REPLACING THE ORIGINAL FACILITY FROM THE THIRTIES.

UM, SO A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN BROUGHT AN ITEM TO COUNSEL PROPOSING TO NAME THIS FACILITY, THE PAT FLYNN AND DICK MILLER JUNIOR LIFEGUARD FACILITY.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO COME AND GIVE SOME FACTS ABOUT BOTH OF THEM.

UM, SO PAT FLYNN DEDICATED AN IN CREDIBLE 47 YEARS TO LONG BEACH LIFEGUARD SERVING FROM 1951 TO 1958.

UM, HE BEGAN HIS CAREER ON THE BEACH AND LATER BECAME A SKIPPER ON THE RESCUE BOATS, WHILE ALSO SERVING ON THE LONG BEACH SEARCH RESCUE, OH, LONG BEACH SEARCH AND RECOVERY TEAM.

UM, AND THEN IN 1971, PAT WITH DICK MILLER STARTED THE LONG BEACH JUNIOR LIFEGUARD PROGRAM, UM, WHICH STARTED WITH 63 YOUTH AND HAS SINCE GROWN TO NEARLY 500 PARTICIPANTS.

UM, SO THEN JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DICK MILLER.

HE PLAYED WATER POLO AND SWAM AT WILSON HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE HE WENT TO SAN JOSE STATE.

UM, FROM 1950 TO 1974, HE WAS A SEASONAL LIFEGUARD FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

UM, IN 1974, HE WAS APPOINTED CHIEF OF THE LONG BEACH LIFEGUARDS, WHICH WAS A POSITION HE HELD FOR 11 YEARS.

UM, AND THEN HE COMPLETED HIS CAREER WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AS THE HEAD OF THE MARINE BUREAU.

SO SHE JUST WANTED ME TO COME TO TELL YOU ALL THOSE FACTS TODAY.

UM, AND JUST FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL IS THAT I WILL, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT TO START OFF THAT I, I KNOW THEM BOTH, UH, AND, AND SUCH AN HONOR, UH, TO HAVE THEIR NAMES BOTH BROUGHT UP ON THAT.

AND I GOTTA TELL YOU THAT DICK MILLER WAS ONE OF A KIND, UH, ONE OF A KIND AND A TRUE BELIEVER IN THE YOUTH AND A TRUE BELIEVER OF, I, I CALL IT, I USE THIS RARELY, BUT A TRUE WATERMAN, UM, THAT UNDERSTAND, UH, THE OCEAN.

SO, UH, UM, YEAH, HONORED THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS FIRST.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? GREAT.

SO I WILL MOVE, UH, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE, UH, TO MOVE THIS ON TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION.

UH, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? SO, NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENDORSE THE SUBMISSION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO APPROVE THE FEED WAIVER FOR THE CALIFORNIA NATIONAL GUARD IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $355 FOR THE USE OF THE MARINE STADIUM PARK DURING THE 224TH SUSTAINMENT.

BRI UH, BRIT BEST WARRIOR COMPETITION ON OCTOBER 19TH, 2024.

TODD? UH, I'LL INTRODUCE, UH, MAINTENANCE.

GEEZ, I CAN'T GET IT.

I JUST KEEP DOING IT.

OPERATIONS SUPER INTENSE PLEASE.

MOTIONS FIRST.

DID THE JUNIOR LIFE.

GIVES ME TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.

JUNIOR LIFE.

THANK YOU.

WE NEED TO, I NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE GO TO, UH, MOTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW IF WE CAN GO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND I WILL SEND IT TO MARINA OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT.

BRIAN.

PLAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE THE ANNUAL, UM, UH, WARRIOR COMPETITION COMING BACK TO LONG BEACH HERE AFTER YOUR BREAK.

UM, IT IS A COMPETITION THAT IS RECOGNIZING LEADERSHIP, PERSONAL FITNESS, AND MENTAL, UH, RESILIENCE.

UM, AND THIS IS LIKE A LOCAL COMPETITION.

IT GOES ONTO LIKE A STATE LEVEL AND THEN IT ACTUALLY GOES TO A NATIONAL COMPETITION.

SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LIKE, GREAT ELEMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND KIND OF BOLING OUR, OUR ARMED SERVICES AND RECOGNIZING SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY DO.

WONDERFUL.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE IT GOING.

YEAH, IT SAID IT'S BEING HELD IN DISTRICT THREE, I THINK, BUT IS IT OPEN TO EVERYONE? YEAH, IT, IT IS, UH, AN OPEN EVENT TO COME TO.

SWEET.

IT, IT IS JUST GONNA BE AT, UH, THE GREEN PARTY.

PERFECT.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, UH, WE'LL MOVE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? SO MOVED.

OKAY, NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION.

RECEIVE AND FILE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION ON PD SIX, DOWNTOWN SHORELINE AREA VISION PLAN.

GET A MOTION, MOVE SECOND AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO TODD OR OUR, OUR MOVEMENT'S GONNA BE, I WILL INTRODUCE, UH, ALLISON SPINDLER.

SHE IS THE PLANNING BUREAU MANAGER FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

ALLISON.

THANKS TODD.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME'S ALLISON.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE A LOT OF, UH, FAMILIAR FACES.

I'VE WORKED WITH MANY OF YOU OVER THE YEARS ON VARIOUS PLANNING EFFORTS WE'VE DONE SUCH AS OUR CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

SO THE PRESENTATION

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EARLIER WAS, UH, VERY EXCITING.

THAT'S A BIG ACTION IN OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TO DO LAUNCH OF GARDEN, UM, UH, CONVERSIONS, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, SO HERE IN THE PLANNING BUREAU, UH, WE'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

WE OVERSEE, UM, LONG RANGE PLANNING FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS, UM, PERMITTING LAND USE AND, UH, SUPPORTING BUILDING PERMITS IN THE CITY.

SO WHAT CAN YOU BUILD? WHERE, WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS? UM, AND ONE OF THE EFFORTS WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS TO UPDATE THE REGULATIONS FOR THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE AREA.

THAT'S EVERYTHING SOUTH OF OCEAN BOULEVARD FROM ALAMEDOS TO, UM, BASICALLY THE SEVEN 10.

THAT PLAN HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE 1970S.

UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT ANTIQUATED.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH A VISIONING PROCESS BEFORE WE GET TO ANY SPECIFIC REGULATIONS.

UM, THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE WAS ACTUALLY CREATED OUT OF PHIL, UM, OVER A 50 YEAR PERIOD.

SO IN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT 50 TO 70 YEARS MIGHT LOOK LIKE, I INVITE YOU ALL TO HELP US THINK BIG.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW SEA LEVEL RISES AND CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS ARE GONNA HAVE, UM, MAJOR IMPACTS ON THIS AREA, AND HOW CAN WE PLAN FOR AND BE RESILIENT TO THOSE CHANGES IN A WAY THAT, UH, BENEFITS OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

THIS AREA WAS ALSO LARGELY DEVELOPED BASED ON, UM, OIL REVENUE.

AND AS WE THINK ABOUT A FUTURE THAT, UM, MOVES AWAY FROM OIL REVENUE, UM, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF, UH, DEVELOPING AN ECONOMY, UM, AND AN INCLUSIVE WAY IN WHICH OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT FROM THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE AREA.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE OUR, UH, PROJECT PLANNER CARLENE, WHO'S GONNA GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL ON THE PROCESS AND INVITE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE.

I KNOW WE WERE HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND WE WERE JUST GETTING STARTED, UM, AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF YOU OUT OF OUR EVENTS OVER THE PAST YEAR, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO GETTING TO, UH, PREFERRED VISION OR SOME OF THE BIG IDEAS, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM AND WANNA MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THOSE BIG IDEAS THAT WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH TODAY.

THEY'RE A VIRTUAL PLATFORM FOR GIVING YOUR FEEDBACK ON ALL THOSE BIG IDEAS AND WE'LL SHARE THAT AS WELL.

OKAY, SO, HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

THE PLANNING BUREAU FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY EXCITED TO PROVIDE THIS BODY WITH AN UPDATE ON THE DOWNTOWN CHOLINE VISION PROCESS.

UM, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION LAST YEAR, THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE VISION PLAN IS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME OF THE UPDATE OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN PD 30 FOR SHORT.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WE ADDRESS HOW THE TWO ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER AS SHOWN BY THIS MAP HERE.

UM, AND WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE THIS COHESIVE WATERFRONT TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO WHILE THESE TWO SEPARATE EFFORT EFFORTS ARE HAPPENING, THEY'RE NOT HAPPENING IN SILOS, BUT RATHER STAFFING THE EXPLICIT EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S COMMUNICATION ACROSS THESE TWO PROJECTS.

FOR REFERENCE, THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE AREA IS LOCATED SOUTH OF OCEAN BOULEVARD, UM, FROM GOLDEN SHORE DRIVE TO ALAMEDAS AVENUE.

WHAT MAKES THIS AREA UNIQUE? IT IT IS A LARGE WATERFRONT THAT IS COMPRISED OF THAILANDS AND THAILANDS ARE SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC TRUST DOCTRINE, WHICH PROTECTS CALIFORNIA'S WATERWAYS FOR PUBLIC NAVIGATION, FISHING, BOATING, NATURAL HABITAT PROTECTION, AND OTHER WATER ORIENTED ACTIVITIES.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THIS COMMISSION IS HOW THE DOWN FLOOR LINE AREA IS PROJECTED TO BE AS AFFECTED BY SEA LL RISE.

SO BEFORE YOU IS A VERY PRELIMINARY STUDY AS THIS IS THIS PROJECT, WE ARE STILL GATHERING DATA ON THE BEST AVAILABLE SCIENCE AS PRODUCED BY THE STATE AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS.

WE HAVE SINCE, UM, WE ARE WORKING ON UPDATING THE MODELS, BUT WE'LL, BUT WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THAT WE ANTICIPATE CHANGE, UM, FROM THE POTENTIAL FLOODING.

AND SO AS WE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT MODELS ARE INCLUSION INCLUSIVE OF THE MOST UPDATED DATA AVAILABLE, WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT CHANGE IS INEVITABLE.

UM, AND SO HOW DO WE IMAGINE A MORE ADAPTIVE AND RESILIENT AREA? SO IN AN EFFORT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS AREA CAN CHANGE, WE PROVIDED HIGH LEVEL TIMELINES FOR CHANGES TO CONSIDER AS WE RE-ENVISIONED THIS AREA FOR THE BEST PUBLIC USE.

YOU'LL SEE HERE, THERE, HERE WE ARE EVALUATING NEAR CHANGE, CHANGE HAPPENING BETWEEN ZERO AND 15 YEARS AS SHOWN IN PINK.

THEY ARE BASED ON EXISTING PROJECTS UNDERWAY IN THE AREA LIKE HARD ROCK HOTEL, AND ANTICIPATED THE LA 28 OLYMPIC GAMES MIDTERM CHANGE BETWEEN 15 AND 30 YEARS BASED ON STATE LOSS TO PLAN FOR SEA LEVEL RISE AND ANTICIPATE ANTICIPATED CIRCULATION, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND LONG-TERM CHANGES 30 YEARS AND BEYOND BASED ON ANTICIPATED CIRCULATION CHANGES AND LAND USE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS IMPROVEMENTS TO SHORELINE VILLAGE.

THESE ARE ESTIMATES FOR US TO START EVALUATING AND PRIORITIZING.

OUR LAND USES INVESTMENTS AND POTENTIAL PATHWAYS FOR IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE AREA.

AND SINCE WE LAST MET, PLANNING HAS CREATED OUT EXTENSIVE OUTREACH STRATEGIES THAT INCLUDE POPUPS, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION, OUTREACH, DATA FOCUSED WORKING GROUPS, PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES TO NAME A FEW.

WE ALSO DEVELOPED A COMMUNITY ADVISORY ROUND TABLE COMPRISE OF MEMBERS FROM ACROSS ALL THE CITY TO

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REFLECT OUR DIVERSE POPULATION AND DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES ONLINE SURVEYS.

AND IN AN IN-PERSON, MULTI-DAY PLANNING, CHARETTE TO ENGAGE WITH POTENTIAL BIG IDEAS FOR DOWNTOWN SHORELINE AREA WAS ALSO HELD.

SO THOSE ARE SOME PICTURES FROM THOSE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

SO FROM ALL OF THESE COMING OUTREACH EVENTS, WE ARE DEVELOPING A VISION STATEMENT AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED A VISION STATEMENT IN GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

HE'S GUIDING PRINCIPLES SET THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT THE COMMUNITY VALUES AND ANTICIPATES.

SO HERE IS DUN FROM SHORELINE VISION STATEMENT AND OCEAN POINT DESTINATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD.

UM, SO WE RECENTLY CLOSED OUR, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLES ONLINE SURVEY.

SO WE'RE COMPILING THE RESULTS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE OVERARCHING THREADS, BUT HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF AN OVERARCHING THREAD ACROSS ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS TO DEVELOP A WATERFRONT THAT IS AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

MM-HMM, , UH, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

WE GROUPED THESE INTO FOUR BUCKETS TO ORGANIZE INPUT, TO REALLY, UM, BREAK IT DOWN SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.

UH, THESE BUCKETS INCLUDE ECONOMIC RESILIENCY, CONNECTIVITY, ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND CREATING A SHORELINE FOR EVERYONE.

SO THERE'S AN EQUITY, UH, LENS AS WELL.

WE PUT SAMPLES OF EACH DRAFT, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR EACH OF OUR BUCKETS FOR YOUR REFERENCE WITH BOLDED WORDS, UM, PROVIDED HERE, UM, THESE WORDS INCLUDE FOCUSING ON, UH, FISCAL VIABILITY IN CREATING A VIBRANT AND INCLUSIVE WATERFRONT DESTINATION.

WHEN TALKING ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, PEOPLE ARE DESIGNED PUBLIC SPACES THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY, A COMMON THEME THAT CAME UP WAS HOW MUCH WE VALUE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A SHORELINE FOR EVERYONE.

OUR COMMUNITY VALUES, CELEBRATING LONG BEACH'S HISTORY, CULTURAL DIVERSITY, AND OUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE WATER.

SO WITH THE BACKGROUND OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, UM, WE ARE HERE TO ASK YOU ALL TO PROVIDE INPUT ON EIGHT BIG IDEAS THAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR WEBSITE.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO SO FAR, PLEASE DO SO.

UM, THESE BIG IDEAS PROVIDE SCENARIO FOR CHANGES IN THE AREA TO REALLY ENVISION A BRIGHT FUTURE.

I WANT TO PREFACE THESE BIG DESIGNS THAT WE ARE GOING TO COVER AS THEIR DISCUSSION PROMPTS, NOT PROPOSED DESIGNS, NOT PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS.

THESE BIG IDEAS SERVE TO PROMPT BIG THINKING AND TO BE BOLD AND AMBITIOUS, BECAUSE HOW OFTEN DO WE AS A COMMUNITY GET TO IMAGINE AND PLAN FOR AN AREA IN THE LONG TERM? IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT NOT EVERYTHING WILL HAPPEN AT ONCE.

AND IF IMPLEMENTED, MANY OF THE BIG IDEAS WOULD BRING ABOUT TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGE.

SO IN SOME ASPECTS WOULD TAKE SEVERAL DECADES AND A LOT OF CAREFUL PLANNING TO COME TO FRUITION.

SO WE ARE CONSIDERING MANY INTERVENTIONS THAT CAN HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY AND IN THE MID, UH, MIDTERM.

UH, SO LET'S DIVE INTO THE EIGHT BIG IDEAS, UM, WHICH ARE ORGANIZED BY AREA AND BEFORE YOU ON THE HANDOUTS, UM, IT'S HARD TO SOMETIMES YOUR POWERPOINT.

SO I HAVE THOSE AND THEY'RE ALSO ALWAYS AVAILABLE ON OUR, UM, WEBSITE AS WELL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, SO RIGHT HERE, UH, STARTING WITH THE CENTRAL WATERFRONT, THERE ARE THREE BIG IDEAS.

THE FIRST IS TO CREATE A MORE ACTIVE WATERFRONT WITH VARIED CONNECTED DESTINATIONS AND AFFORDABLE ACTIVITIES FOR EVERYONE.

THE SECOND IS TO CREATE A MODERN AND VIBRANT HARBOR FOCUSED ON MARITIME ACTIVITIES.

AND THE THIRD IS TO CREATE A BOLD URBAN WATERFRONT ECO ZONE AND MODEL FOR ECOLOGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

SO WHAT ARE POTENTIAL IDEAS TO REACHING THESE BIG IDEAS? SO HERE ARE SOME VISUALIZATIONS OF THESE BIG IDEAS AND HOW SPECIFICALLY THOSE BIG IDEAS CAN BE ACHIEVED TO ACHIEVE AN ACTIVE AND VARIED WATERFRONT.

WHAT IF WE CREATED A DESTINATION LOOP WITH MORE TO DO AND SEE IN THE WATERFRONT TO ACHIEVE A VARIED AND TO ACHIEVE A MODERN AND VIBRANT HARBOR? FOCUS ON MARITIME ACTIVITIES BY RECONFIRMING THE RAINBOW HARBOR HARBOR TO BE A GRANDER DESTINATION WATERFRONT? AND WHAT IF WE TRANSFORMED THE WATERFRONT TO HAVE A CONTINUOUS EDGE TO ACHIEVE A BOLD URBAN WATERFRONT ECOSYSTEM? VERY BIG IDEAS.

SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE.

SO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU ARE THE BIG IDEAS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, BUT WE TOOK THEM UP AND WE BLEW THEM UP ON BIG POSTERS DURING OUR MULTI-DAY CHARETTE.

AND WE JUST HAD COMMUNITIES MEMBERS ACROSS SEVERAL DAYS COME OUT AND PUT POST-ITS PROVIDE COMMENT.

UM, SO IT WAS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO THINK THESE BIG IDEAS THAT WE DON'T OFTEN REALLY GET TO TALK ABOUT FOR THE EASTERN WATER FRONTS.

THE FIRST BIG IDEA INCLUDES A LOT OF FRONT DISTRICTS THAT ENCOURAGES GOOD JOBS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES, CREATIVES AND RESIDENTS.

ANOTHER BIG IDEA TO HAVE A DOWNTOWN THAT EXTENDS SEAMLESSLY TO THE SHORELINE, PROVIDING MORE ACTIVITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN THAT EMBRACES

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ITS HISTORY AND RECLAIMS PUBLIC ASSET ACCESS TO THE WATER.

HERE ARE WAYS THAT BIG IDEAS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED ON OUR EASTERN WATERFRONT.

YOU SEE HERE THAT THE ELEPHANT LOT COULD BE TRANSPORTED INTO A CREATIVE INNOVATION DISTRICT TO BRING IN, UM, TO REALLY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR ARTISTS.

UM, WHAT IF THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS EXPANDED SO THAT A NEW PORTION OF THE CENTER WAS ON THE WATERFRONT AND REDEVELOPED ALONG PINE AVENUE? OR WHAT IF WE EXPANDED RAINBOW LAGOON TO BRING THE WATER CLOSER TO THE, UH, DOWNTOWN? AGAIN, AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME POST-IT NOTES THAT THE COMMUNITY PROVIDED.

AND FOR THE WESTERN WATERFRONT, THERE ARE TWO BIG IDEAS.

THE FIRST IS THAT THE WESTERN GATEWAY TO THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE, UH, PD SIX FOR SHO.

UM, AND THE SECOND IS TO CREATE A MIXED USE WATERFRONT NEIGHBORHOOD OF PARK OFFICE RECREATION AND HOUSING.

SO WHAT IF WE BETTER CONNECT THE WESTERN WATERFRONT BY CAPPING SHORELINE? DRIVE CAPPING IS A PLANNING TERM TO ESSENTIALLY PRODUCE A PARK HERE AT THE VERY END, UM, TO ENGAGE AND ACTIVATE THIS WESTERN WATERFRONT.

UM, AND THEN ALONG HERE, WHAT IF WE EXTEND THE WEST VILLAGE DOWN TO THE WATER? AND HERE SOME, UH, POSTITS AS WELL.

SO AS WE SAID EARLIER, WE ARE STILL COMPILING PUBLIC INPUT AND, BUT HERE ARE SOME BIG THEMES THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, THE WATER SHOULD BE UNIQUELY LONG BEACH.

DO NOT CONSIDER PD SIX DOWNTOWN SHORELINE IN ISOLATION.

ALSO CONSIDER ALL THE OTHER PLAN DISTRICTS IN THE AREA PLAN FOR BOTH THE NEAR TERM AS WELL AS THE LONG TERM MAKE THE EXPERIENCE OF GETTING HERE AND GETTING AROUND MUCH EASIER.

THE AREA HAS MANY GOOD THINGS TODAY AND WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AND RESPECT THOSE THINGS.

WATER NEEDS TO BE A LOT CLEANER.

PARKING MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO BE BETTER AND THERE NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT AND VARIED SOLUTIONS.

HOW DOES THIS GET FUNDED? AND WHAT ARE ECONOMIC TRADE-OFFS OF THESE BIG IDEAS? SO WE, AS A PLANNING BUREAU, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING TO ADDRESS THESE BIG THEMES AND THINK ABOUT VERY LARGELY HOW DO WE ANSWER OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WITH THESE QUESTIONS AT HAND.

SO HERE'S THE TIMELINE OF WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN FROM.

UM, THE, THE BIG IDEAS REALLY ALLOW US TO REIMAGINE THE DOWNTOWN TROLL LINE WITH LIMITED CONSTRAINTS FROM THE INPUT GATHERED ON THESE BIG IDEAS.

THE NEXT STEP IS FOR OUR PLANNING BUREAU TO CREATE A PREFERRED SCENARIO THAT PAIRS DOWN THESE BIG IDEAS TO A VERY, A MUCH MORE TANGIBLE VISION.

SO WE HOPE THIS PRESENTATION HAS GOTTEN YOU EXCITED TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE EIGHT BIG IDEAS TO DEVELOP THIS PREFERRED SCENARIO.

WE INCLUDED A QR CODE HERE TO ACCESS YOUR ONLINE FORUM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE HOPE TO USE THIS SPACE TO SOLICIT, TO SOLICIT, UM, UM, FEEDBACK FROM YOUR TEAM ON THE BIG IDEAS AND TALK ABOUT THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING AND PERHAPS IF THIS COMMISSION HAS ANY IDEAS THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ON IDEAS, HOW WE CAN BUILD ADAPTED RESILIENCY WHEN CONSIDERING CITY LEVEL RISE.

OR WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO SEE IN THIS PREFERRED SCENARIO BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD OR WHAT MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD AND DISTINCT.

YOU GO THE QUESTION THING.

I DIDN'T GET TO LEAVE IT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU CAN'T USE A QR CODE.

HOW, HOW DO YOU ACCESS IT IF YOU CAN'T USE A QR CODE? 'CAUSE MANY SENIORS ARE DIGITALLY, UM, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.

NO, I, NO, THAT'S FINE.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ME.

SO I, WE DO HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE, JUST OUR CITY, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE AS WELL.

WE HAVE AN EMAIL DOWNTOWN PLAN@LONGBEACH.GOV.

IF FOR SOME REASON THAT SURVEY DOES NOT GET WHAT YOU WANT AND YOU JUST WANNA SEND ME AN ESSAY, I WILL READ YOUR ESSAY .

UM, I, SO THERE ARE VERY WAYS, VERY WAYS, UM, TODAY ALSO HERE I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS.

IF YOU WANNA WRITE SOME DOWN, I WILL TAKE THOSE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE FUTURE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS, UM, COMING UP.

SO THOSE ARE IN PERSON OPPORTUNITIES IF YOU WANNA BE IN PERSON TO BE A BIT MORE ANALOG.

ALL I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE NOT A WHOLE LOT, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE QUEEN MARY IS, WHERE THE, THE MAYOR WANTS TO LOOK AT DOING A, UH, A CONCERT ZONE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN THAT LARGE AREA, NOT A PART OF THIS BECAUSE IT, I THINK IT REALLY, IT, IT SHOULD BE A PART OF IT.

THAT'S A REALLY GREAT COMMENT.

I HAVE ALLISON COME BACK.

YEAH.

SO I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

DON'T SAY BRUCE MCCRAY, MAYOR BRUCE .

NO.

SO, UM, IT, IT IS BEING LOOKED AT, UM, ALMOST CONCURRENTLY.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS TO GET THIS PROCESS GOING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, AND SO THIS PROCESS KICKED OFF ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO.

UM, SO, AND MORE RECENTLY, AS THESE OTHER IDEAS RELATED TO THE QUEEN MARY HAVE COME ABOUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW TO INTEGRATE THIS PROCESS WITH THAT.

AND SO, UM, COULD WE GO BACK A FEW SLIDES? IF YOU GO TO LIKE THE, UM, ECONOMIC, UM, ALTERNATIVE,

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UM, EXAMPLE YEAH.

FURTHER BACK.

UM, SO I DO WANNA SHOW YOU THAT FURTHER BACK THE, UM, GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

YEAH.

UH, KEEP GOING.

YEAH.

LIKE HERE.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT CONNECTIVITY AND ONE MORE WITH ECONOMIC, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THESE THINGS SHOULD BE INTERRELATED.

UM, SORRY, ONE MORE FORWARD.

THE CONNECTIVITY ONE.

YEAH.

SO, UM, HOW WE GET TO AND FROM THE QUEEN MARY AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT THIS ALL AS ONE DISTRICT.

THE WAY THE, THE REASON IT'S NOT ALL ONE PROJECT IS THAT THEY ARE TECHNICALLY TWO DIFFERENT PLAN AREAS.

SO WHEN WE BRING IT FORWARD CITY COUNCIL OR TO COASTAL COMMISSION, THEY'RE SEPARATE LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT ALL PART OF THE SAME PROCESS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS HOW TO INTEGRATE THE TWO TOGETHER.

SO WHAT'LL BE COMING FORWARD RIGHT AFTER THE NEW YEAR TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE QUEEN MARY AND HOW TO BEST UTILIZE THE QUEEN MARY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR HAS, UM, ASKED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO COME, UM, WITH A TEMPORARY AMPHITHEATER, UM, THAT HE WOULD LIKE OPEN, UH, NEXT YEAR.

AND SO THAT IS AN AMBITIOUS TIMELINE THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING ON, UM, TO, UH, TO TRY SOME TEMPORARY THINGS IN THAT AREA.

BUT THEN TO HELP US GIVE IDEAS FOR WHAT PERMANENTLY, UM, IT COULD LOOK LIKE THERE, THERE'S SOME HUGE OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

I'M SHOWING CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO GONNA BE A CHALLENGE.

AND WE KNOW THAT.

SO WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MOST EFFECTIVELY GET LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE TO AND FROM THAT AREA? AND IT'S REALLY NOT A LONG DISTANCE, AS YOU ALL KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE PROBABLY.

UM, BUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE, UM, BACK AND FORTH IN A WAY WHERE NOT EVERYONE'S IN A SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE IN THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL CAR? WELL, FOR THE CLIMATE AND ALSO JUST FOR SHEER, UH, TRAFFIC VOLUME PROTOCOLS, IT, IT, IT BAFFLED ME AND WE HAD TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT IT AND I'M LIKE, WELL, YOU GOT ONE ENTRANCE.

YEAH.

REALLY? THE, THE, THE FREEWAY COMING THROUGH YEP.

OR THAT POPULATION AND THAT POPULATION THAT WE HAVE.

MM-HMM.

ON THAT OTHER SIDE OF, UH, OCEAN RIGHT THERE WITH ALL THE NEW CON I MEAN, IT'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

YEAH.

UM, AND IT'S IT'S ALREADY PRETTY TOUGH, BUT, UH, YEAH.

INTERESTING.

I, THAT IS INTERESTING.

I'D LIKE TO PUT IT OUT.

IS THERE ANY COMMENTS THAT WE CAN DO REAL QUICK FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? YES.

COULD YOU PUT YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION UP ON THE BOARD ONE MORE TIME PLEASE? YEAH.

CELL PHONES AND THAT WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE .

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC? NO, I JUST WANTED, GO AHEAD.

I THINK WHEN YOU FIRST CAME, I WAS ASKING HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENGAGE, LIKE THE FOLKS THAT DON'T LIVE IN DOWNTOWN? AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU ALL BECAUSE I'M A PART OF THE ROUND TABLE, SO I'VE MET WITH YOU THREE TIMES FOR LIKE FOUR HOURS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

SO PROBABLY SOME OF MY STICKIES ARE THERE.

AND YOU ALL HAVE REALLY, UM, TAKEN THAT SERIOUSLY AND ENGAGED ALL PARTS OF LONG BEACH.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

GREAT.

UM, AND, UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT AS A, A COMMISSION, UM, THAT THEY'VE REALLY SOUGHT OUT TO GET DIFFERENT VIEWS.

SO I APPRECIATE LIKE EVEN TRANSLATING NON-NATIVE SPEAKER, NOT LIKE FOLKS THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH.

THEY HAD TRANSLATIONS, UH, DEVICES WHEN WE WERE DOING VISIONING.

UM, AND SO I JUST AGAIN WANT COMMEND YOU ALL ON THAT.

WONDERFUL.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S LIKE PRETTY OBVIOUSLY THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU GUYS ARE REALLY TAKING THE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FROM YOU.

ANY OTHER FURTHER TO THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.

SAY YOUR NAME AND WHAT DO YOU GOT? SO, I'M JOAN PALANGO WITH THE LONG BEACH MARINA BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

AND OF COURSE THE MARINA IS RIGHT THERE.

MARINAS HAVE RULES.

UM, MARINAS HAVE A DIFFERENT, UM, OBJECTIVE WITH THE CLEAN MARINA PROGRAM, MORE PEOPLE WILL PRODUCE MORE TRASH.

THERE'S A COST TO THAT.

UM, SO I HOPE THAT THERE IS SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.

I KNOW IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF, UH, WE'RE THERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED.

MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE AN ENTERPRISE SYSTEM AND I DON'T KNOW THAT.

ANYWAY.

I WOULD LIKE, UM, YOU TO CONSIDER THE CLEAN MARINA, UM, INITIATIVES THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THIS, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION WAS ABOUT IS GETTING CLEAN WATER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OCEAN AND WORK THAT'S US.

AND THEN ALSO THE SPECIFIC RULES AND GUIDELINES IN THE MARINA.

UM, THERE'S NO FISHING IN THE MARINAS.

THERE'S NO, UM, UH, YOU CAN'T BE RIDING BICYCLES THROUGH, AT LEAST THAT'S IN ALAM BAY.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SHORELINE.

UM, THERE'S NO ONE ALLOWED ON THE DOCKS.

UM, THERE'S NO SWIMMING, THERE'S A LOT OF NO, NO NOS.

UM, TO, AND, AND BASICALLY THE MARINA SHOULD BE CONSIDERED LIKE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, A HOMEOWNER'S DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU MIGHT.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR HOME IS.

IT'S JUST THAT OUR HOMES HAVE HAPPEN TO BE ON THE WATER.

AND

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SO I'D JUST LIKE TO, TO MAKE THAT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING SOME THINGS INCORPORATED, UH, WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND, UM, THAT ARE GOING BY A BM SINCE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THIS.

BUT ANYWAY, JUST LIKE TO CONSIDER, HAVE THAT CONSIDERED, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANY REALLY RECOGNITION OR PROTECTIONS OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THE MARINA AND THE BOAT OWNERS.

SO THAT'S ONE.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ERS I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, YES, THAT IS WELL SAID.

UH, ON THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH GROUPS, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, SHORELINE MARINA BOAT, UH, SLIP PERMIT MEETINGS.

SO WE ARE, WE ARE REPRESENTED, UH, WE ARE BEING HEARD AND BOA HAS A REPRESENTATIVE ON IT AS WELL.

BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU.

MAKE THAT COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

IT'S ON RECORD.

YES.

YEAH.

ANY OF COURSE, SIR.

THANK JUST A QUICK COMMENT.

I WAS INVOLVED IN THE, UH, UH, PUBLIC CHARETTE FOR THE, FOR THE BIKING AND THE, THE FANTASTIC JOB YOU GUYS DID.

WONDERFUL.

UM, THE PRESENTERS WERE, WERE WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MUCH, SIR.

NA UH, RICH WINSLOW, I HAVE A BOAT IN, UH, SHORELINE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND I'M WONDERING, ARE ANY OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE, UH, DO THEY HAVE ANY CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE AS IMPORTANT AS THE MARINA USE BY BOAT DIVERS? AND THAT WOULD BE ACCESS TO THE BOAT AND, UH, PREDICTION OF OUR PARKING.

GETTING IN.

YEAH.

PARKING.

UH, BECAUSE BICYCLES AND PLUSES DON'T REALLY WORK WELL TO GET US TO OUR BOATS AND GET US HOME AGAIN.

UM, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU THINK ARE AS IMPORTANT? LIKE HAVING BIKE TOURS AND ROCK AND ROLL CONCERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? ? SO, UM, I REALIZE WE HAVE TO SHARE THE HERE NOW.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THAT REALLY IS OUR CHALLENGE, IS HOW WE BALANCE ALL, ALL OF THE, UM, NEEDS AND PRIORITIES.

UM, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE FUN OF DOING THIS, UH, VISION PLAN.

WE DON'T ALWAYS DO A VISION PLAN BEFORE WE DO A LAND USE DOCUMENT.

SO WE'RE NOT AT THE STAGE OF WRITING THE REQUIREMENTS OR SAYING ANYTHING SUPER SPECIFIC.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING BIG PICTURE RIGHT NOW.

PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE KNOW, UM, IT'S, UH, HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1978.

SO IT NEEDS A LOT OF LIKE THINKING BEFORE WE GO STRAIGHT TO THE REGULATIONS.

UM, AND ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS UNIQUE IN THAT MOST OF THE LAND IN PD SIX IS ACTUALLY CITY OWNED, WHICH IS UNIQUE FOR US.

OFTENTIMES WE'RE DEVELOPING REGULATIONS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF THE PUBLIC GOOD, UM, BECAUSE IT IS MOSTLY PUBLIC LAND.

UM, SO FOR ME THAT'S SUPER EXCITING AS A PLANNER TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST THE VERY BIG PICTURE OF WHAT IS THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE IN 50 TO 70 YEARS AND HOW DO WE POSITION OURSELVES? AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REGULATIONS FOR TODAY OR TOMORROW.

IN FACT, IT'S LIKELY THIS PLAN WON'T EVEN BE ADOPTED UNTIL ABOUT 2028 BY THE TIME WE FINISH THE VISION PLAN.

AND THEN THE REGULATORY DOCUMENT GO THROUGH SQA REVIEW, BRING IT FORWARD TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

SO NONE OF THIS IS ABOUT NEAR TERM.

IT'S ABOUT, UM, SETTING OURSELVES UP IN STAGES TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO 50 TO 70 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY OUR FIRST SLIDE ACTUALLY STARTED WITH LOOKING AT SEA LEVEL RISE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE IS NO OPTION TO DO NOTHING BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT FLOODING AND INUNDATION THAT'S COMING.

THERE IS NO OPTION TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO.

AND SO HOW DO WE THINK BIG PICTURE ABOUT, UM, WHAT SHOULD THAT LONG TERM LOOK LIKE? SO THAT'S REALLY THE STAGE THAT WE'RE IN, BUT WE WILL GET TO THAT MORE GRANULAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE TRADE OFFS WHEN IT COMES TO MOBILITY? THERE ARE HUGE TRADE OFFS BECAUSE, UM, WE KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE STILL RELY ON THE CAR TODAY FOR MOST OF THEIR TRIPS.

WE KNOW THE STATE IS TELLING US WE CAN'T ALL LIVE THAT WAY 50 TO 70 YEARS FROM NOW AND STILL HAVE, UM, HAVE, UH, THE GREAT RESOURCES WE HAVE HERE DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

UM, AND PLANNERS ARE ALWAYS IN THAT VERY TRICKY SITUATION OF HOW DO YOU BALANCE, LIKE PEOPLE NEED TO GET PLACES FOR MOBILITY PURPOSES, BUT WE'RE ALSO GIVEN THESE MANDATES AND, AND HAVE THAT OBLIGATION TO ADDRESS AND BE, UM, UM, READY FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND SO, UM, IT'S BOTH ABOUT ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY AS WELL AS, UM, THOSE CLIMATE CHANGE BALANCES THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON WHEN IT COMES TO THINKING ABOUT PARKING, MULTIMODAL ACCESS, HOW TO MAKE IT ONCE YOU'RE THERE, WHAT WE CALL LIKE A, A PARK ONE OPTION SO THAT IT'S EASIER TO WALK AROUND, UM, AND GET AROUND WITH DIFFERENT, UM, MODES.

SO YEAH, WE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING YOU AS WE GET TO THAT MORE GRANULAR LEVEL.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THE BIG PICTURE.

LIKE YOU SAW SOME OF THOSE BIG IDEAS THAT WE FLIP BACK TO IT.

THEY'RE PRETTY BIG.

UM, NO, IT'S THE, IT IS EXCITING.

I THINK YOU BRINGING IT TO US, UH, GIVES US AN IDEA AT AT LEAST WE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

INSTEAD OF IT, I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK TO THE PARKING INSTEAD OF IT SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? WE'D LIKE TO VOTE ON THIS.

WE HAVE ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT NEEDS TO LEAVE.

I HAD A QUICK

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QUESTION.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

CAN I QUICKLY ASK ALSO, I, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO ANSWER IT NOW.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING 50, 67 YEARS AGO, YOU'RE GONNA, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FACTOR IN HOTTER SUMMERS.

WE ARE WINTERS.

IS THAT BEING SORT OF DISCUSSED? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

AND EVEN, UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE CLEAN WATER, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY HUGELY IMPORTANT.

UM, IF WE POTENTIAL WE FORGETTING WE SWITCH AND I'LL GO QUICKLY, BUT, UM, JUST ONE EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO, UM, SOMETHING LIKE AN EXPANDED WETLAND, WHICH IS IN A FEW OF THESE, UM, YEAH.

IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE AN EXPANDED, UM, WETLAND, HOW DOES THAT MAKE US MORE ADAPTIVE AND RESILIENT? BOTH, UM, FOR HELPING CLEAN THE WATER, BUT ALSO HELPING US DEAL WITH TEMPERATURES AND THE WETNESS AND, UM, FLOODING THAT MAY COME.

SO JUST AN EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THAT WAS, UH, UH, AND I WILL HAVE, UH, A VOTE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO MOVE FORWARD, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WONDERFUL JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYBE WE CAN USE THOSE LITTLE ELECTRIC BOATS LIKE THEY HAVE AT, UH, NOT THAT THEY HAVEN'T AT CATALINA YET, BUT TAKING PEOPLE.

I I THINK TRANSPORTATION IS GONNA BE KEY FOR THE FUTURE.

WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND WITH THE OLYMPICS COMING YEAH.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A BETTER CALL ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT.

WE'VE DONE PRETTY WELL SO FAR.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES.

AYE.

MOVE.

MOTION.

WE GOT A MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL START OUR UPDATES WITH CHIEF MEDINA WITH MARINE SAFETY AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

UH, CHIEF, NO SIGNIFICANT UPDATES FOR MARINE SAFETY.

WELL DONE .

UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO MARINE PATROL AND SUPERVISOR S SPINNER.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS, UH, JEFF SPINNER.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T, DON'T KNOW ME, UH, I'M A DAY SHIFT SUPERVISOR, UH, FILLING IN FOR SERGEANT SPIEGAL WHILE HE'S ON MEDICAL LEAVE RIGHT NOW.

UH, FIRST I WANTED TO, UH, START WITH SOME GOOD NEWS, UH, OF OUR US PROMOTING OFFICER, SUPERVISOR, UH, HENRY JOE, WHO JUST WAS PROMOTED THIS PAST WEEK.

SO HE'S, UH, CONGRATULATIONS.

HE'S BEEN WITH, UH, THE DETAIL 22 YEARS NOW.

WOW.

UH, PRIOR TO THAT HE SERVED WITH LAPD AND, UH, BEFORE THAT HE WAS WITH THE MARINE CORPS.

SO WOW.

HE BRINGS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD.

SO, TERRIFIC.

HAPPY TO BE HERE.

.

GREAT JOB AND A GOOD GIG.

SO, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, WELL, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT STATS.

I KNOW, UH, LAST MONTH WE WEREN'T HERE.

SO, UH, FOR SEPTEMBER, UH, UM, WE GOT BACK TO LOWER STATS.

UM, UH, SEPTEMBER WAS BACK TO AVERAGE WITH A MASSIVE BUSY AUGUST.

UM, SERVICE DEMAND DECREASED, UH, IN SEPTEMBER BY ABOUT 30% FEWER DISPATCH CALLS FOR SERVICE THAN AUGUST.

UH, BIG DECREASE IN PARKING CALLS.

UH, TOTAL OF 23 REPORTS WERE TAKEN, WHICH WAS THE LOWEST TOTAL THIS YEAR.

UH, MOST OF THOSE WERE, UH, VESSEL IMPOUND.

UM, LET'S SEE, UH, DISPATCH CALLS FOR SERVICE WAS DECREASED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FIVE MONTHS.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS WITH THE BUSY SEASON.

A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN, LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN USING THE AREA, UH, SCHOOLS BACK IN NOW.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A DECREASE IN THAT.

UH, WE'VE HAD 91 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN SEPTEMBER AS OPPOSED TO 129 IN AUGUST AND 121 IN JULY.

SO A BIG DECREASE IN THAT OFFICER INITIATED CALLS, UH, WERE 11% LOWER THAN WE WERE IN AUGUST.

AND THE MONTHLY AVERAGE, UH, FOR THE YEAR IS 1,915.

AND THIS IN AUGUST, WE WERE 1,705.

SO, UH, A BIG, BIG REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF LESS, OR EXCUSE ME, A LOT LESS CALLS FOR SERVICE WAS BECAUSE OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR, UH, PARKER PARKING PROBLEMS, UH, DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS.

UH, OUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, UH, BEING DILIGENT WITH PARKING SITES AND IT'S SHOWING, UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE, THE LESS PARKING CALLS IS BECAUSE THERE'S LESS OF A PROBLEM.

I DON'T REALLY SEEING LESS PARKING ISSUES OUT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE OUT THERE TAKING CARE OF IT AND, UH, THE BOARD'S GETTING OUT.

SO IT'S STARTING TO WORK.

JUST SEEING YOUR OFFICERS OUT THERE IS, IS GREAT BECAUSE THEY , I'M NOT GONNA MENTION ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, I WON'T, BUT IT, IT IS GREAT SENIOR OFFICERS JUST DRIVING AROUND AND, AND, AND PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT'S THE KEY 'CAUSE THEY SEE 'EM AND, AND THEY REPRESENT.

SO WE HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME FROM THE MOTOR OWNERS.

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THEY'RE HAPPY TO SEE US OUT THERE.

YEP.

YEAH, DEFINITELY TAKE .

SURE.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO MARINE OPERATIONS.

BRIAN.

PLAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

UM, KEEP IT SHORT.

UH, SO WE ARE FOR LIKE OUR, GOING INTO WHAT SHOULD BE OUR SLOWER SEASON.

WE SAW AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY, UH, THIS PAST MONTH FOR UP TO 94.18% OCCUPIED.

UH, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD OUTREACH, UM, OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS.

WE HAD A STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WITH BOA AND A BUNCH OF THE YACHT CLUBS AND OTHER BUSINESSES IN ALAMEDAS, UM, AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

UM, THEN A GREAT BOA MEETING LAST NIGHT.

I PRESUME I WAS UNABLE TO BE THERE.

BUT, UM, REALLY TRYING TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, UM, LISTEN TO WHAT ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED, THOSE, AND JUST HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.

UM, WE'LL LEAVE THE PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON TO COREY.

UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORTS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANKS.

UH, ONE QUICK, UH, THING FOR BRIAN IS 94.18%.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT.

I'VE SINCE TWO, TWO, 2019.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN AT ABOVE 94.00.

AND IT'S A TESTAMENT TO BRIAN THAT HIS HARD WORK OVER HIS FIRST SIX MONTHS GETTING OUR OCCUPANCY, I THINK HE'S JUST GONNA KEEP GETTING IT ELEVATED MORE.

SO CONGRATS TO BRIAN ON HIS FIRST SIX MONTHS, UH, WITH US, UH, ELEVATING OUR FOOTPRINT WITH THAT ALAMEDAS BAY, 99% OCCUPANCY.

GEEZ, A LOT OF TIME PEOPLE WILL COME TO US AND SAY, I SEE AN EMPTY SLIP.

I SEE AN EMPTY SLIP.

I SEE AN EMPTY SLIP.

UH, WE HAVE 12.

WOW.

OUT OF 1,630, WE HAVE 12 EMPTY SLIPS.

, THAT'S AMAZING.

SO, AGAIN, TESTAMENT TO BRIAN, HIS TEAM AND THEIR HARD WORK.

JOHN, I'LL ADD ONE MORE THING, BRIAN.

IT'S CLEAN.

UM, I, I, MY WIFE WANTS ME TO WALK THE DOG AT LONG BEACH STATE, BUT WE GET UP IN THE MORNING TIME AND WE COME DOWN AND, AND WALK AROUND HERE AND IT'S, IT'S CLEAN.

AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE WHOLE TEAM.

UH, WHEN IT'S CLEAN AND PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE, WHAT BETTER WAY? MM-HMM.

WHAT BETTER PLACE TO BE.

SO, UH, WELL DONE, WELL DONE.

UH, WE'LL MOVE TO BEACH MAINTENANCE AND KELLY ARMSTRONG.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES.

OUR BEACH MAINTENANCE TEAM IS, UH, GETTING READY FOR, UH, THE WINTER AND RAIN SEASON.

SO, UM, YOU MAY SEE A LOT OF THE, THE LARGER, UH, STORM DRAINS, UH, ON THE BEACH, UH, BEGINNING TO OPEN UP.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH FLEET OPERATIONS ON PROCUREMENT OF, UH, SOME NEW EQUIPMENT, UH, THIS YEAR.

UH, OUR DEBRIS TOTAL IS 108 TONS, UH, LAST MONTH, UM, WHICH BRINGS OUR TOTAL, UH, 2000 TONS FOR THE, THE FISCAL YEAR.

OUR QUEENSWAY BAY TEAM IS ALSO GETTING READY FOR WINTER.

UH, THE RAINBOW HARBOR, UH, STORM DEBRIS SYSTEM IS ALMOST COMPLETE AT THE ENTRANCE OF RAINBOW HARBOR.

UH, AND THEY'RE ALSO WORKING TO DEPLOY, UH, OUR DIFFERENT SKIMMING, UH, TRASH SKIMMING VESSELS.

UH, AND OUR GROUNDS DIVISION, UM, IS CONTINUING TO WORK WITH LONG BEACH UTILITIES AND OUR, OUR TEAM, UH, FOR THE LONG TO GARDEN PROJECTS.

UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO VERY BUSY, UH, WITH THE, UH, BEGINNING OF THE TREE TRIMMING, UH, PROJECT.

UH, SO IT'S KIND OF, UM, AN EAST TO WEST MOVEMENT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRIMMING ON IN THE EASTERN, UH, ALAMEDOS BAY AREAS, UH, THIS MONTH.

AND WE'LL BE MOVING THROUGH THE BEACHES AND, AND IN THE QUEENSWAY BAY, UH, IN DECEMBER.

DO THEY, AND I KNOW THEY DO, I JUST HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION.

UM, ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NESTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I KNOW NESTING SEASON FLUCTUATES, ESPECIALLY THE WAY OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IS IN THE GREAT STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

UH, THEY'RE ALWAYS REVIEWING THAT BEFORE THEY TRIM, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

GREAT.

UM, ALL OF THE, THE AREAS ARE, UH, SURVEYED FOR, FOR, UH, NESTING, UH, AND THOSE SURVEYS ARE SENT TO, UH, COASTAL COMMISSION AND, AND VARIOUS OTHER AGENCIES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SIR.

QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM.

YES SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT, KELLY.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

A QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, IN THE MARINA READER FOR SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

AND, AND IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENT TODAY, YOU MENTIONED THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS IN TONS, RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR UNIT OF MEASURE.

IS THAT A THOUSAND POUNDS OR IS THAT ANOTHER MEASURE? THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE, UM, MARINE BUREAU'S, UM, ANNUAL BUDGET.

THEY USE METRIC TONS FOR SOME OF THAT DEBRIS MEASUREMENT.

SO A THOUSAND POUNDS OR METRIC TONS.

WHAT ARE YOU DEFINING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A TON? UH, ONE TON IS 2000 POUNDS, 2000 TONS.

UH, WE TYPICALLY MEASURE

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IN TONNAGE.

UH, OUR LARGE, UH, TRUCKS ARE, ARE SCALED AT DUMP SITES AND, AND THEY PROVIDE US A, A TONNAGE, UH, WEIGHT IN OUR VEHICLES.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE GET OUR, OUR, OUR UH, OUR WEIGHTS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE, UM, AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE A A POINT IS THAT IN THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR MARINE BUREAU, THERE ARE DEBRIS MEASUREMENTS THAT ARE MEASURED IN METRIC TON AND NOT LIKE REGULAR TIME.

SO, UM, JUST POINTING THAT OUT IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND HOW IT'S BEING PRESENTED IN OTHER DOCUMENTS.

I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, I'VE NOTICED THAT ON THE BEACH PATH IN THE AREA THAT'S BETWEEN GAUCHO GRILL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AT LEAST MO, UM, RECENTLY THERE'S BEEN BLUE RECYCLING CANS OUT.

UM, WAS THAT JUST TO COINCIDE WITH THE MARATHON OR MOVING FORWARD, ARE WE GONNA BE HAVING BLUE CANS OUT THERE AS WELL AS THE REGULAR TRASH CANS? AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE THE RECYCLING CANS AND WOULD ADVOCATE THAT WE HAVE HAVE MORE RECYCLING ON THE BEACH.

UH, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, THEY ARE BLUE.

THEY, THE, THE REGULAR CANS HAVE BEEN, UH, CHANGED OUT FOR BLUE.

UH, SO THOSE ARE NOT RECYCLING.

THOSE ARE OUR NEW, UH, OCEAN CORE CAN THAT'S MADE OF, UH, UM, CONSUMER MATERIALS.

UM, SO THOSE ARE BEING PHASED THROUGH ALL OF OUR BEACH AREAS FOR REPLACING THE, THE BROWN, VERY SIMILAR LOOKING TRASH CAN.

OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE REPLACING WHAT WAS ALREADY EXISTING.

SO THEY'RE NOT, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A RECYCLING CAN AND A TRASH CAN.

WE'RE MOVING TO BLUE.

OKAY.

HOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, AND THIS MIGHT BE NOT IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE, MIGHT BE IN SANITATION, BUT I KNOW THE CITY IS GONNA BE CHANGING OUT THE PURPLE CANS TO BLUE CANS FOR BUCKETING.

SO HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE MESSAGING THAT OR ARE WE, UM, TO OUR FOLKS THAT ARE USING THE BEACHES, UM, AND USING THE CANS APPROPRIATELY? 'CAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT WHEN WE PICK THESE CANS UP, UM, WE MIGHT FIND THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED IN THE OTHER TRASH CAN, MAKING MORE WORK, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG TERM.

SO HAVE WE MESSAGED THAT OUT TO, TO FOLKS THAT USE OUR BEACH PATH? UH, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE RECYCLING OPERATION ON OUR, OUR PUBLIC BEACHES.

OKAY.

UM, THOSE CANS DON'T SAY RECYCLING.

UH, ALTHOUGH WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE A SIMILAR COLOR TO A NEW INITIATIVE FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE IF IT BRINGS UP AN ISSUE WITH, UH, PUBLIC AWARENESS.

OKAY.

I THINK GETTING PEOPLE JUST TO THROW THE TRASH AWAY, WHATEVER IT IS, RECYCLE OR NOT PUT IT IN TRASH CAN, IT'S GREAT NEWS.

SO, GOOD CALL THOUGH, COMMISSIONER.

SO DO WE ULTIMATELY RECYCLE, I MEAN, AS OUR CREWS ARE PICKING UP THE TRASH, JUST TO TAKE THE QUESTION TO THE NEXT STEP AS THEY PICK UP THOSE BINS AND, AND HANDLE THE TRASH, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RECYCLING ONCE IT'S ALL IN THE SAME BIN? UM, NO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SET UP CURRENTLY IN OUR OPERATION.

WE DON'T, UM, SIFT THROUGH ANY OF THE, THE TRASH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, OUR TRANSFER STATIONS COULD DO.

BUT I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S PART OF THEIR OPERATION EITHER.

MOST, I, I HATE SAYING THIS, BUT IN SOME CITIES, MOST OF THE RECYCLING AND THE TRASH ALL GOES INTO ONE, ONE BEND.

IT DOESN'T GET SWITCHED ANYMORE.

CHINA'S NO LONGER ACCEPTING ANY PAPER GOODS OR PLASTIC GOODS FROM THE UNITED STATES.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT ALL GOES TO LANDFILL AND LANDFILLS LANDFILL, WHICH IS, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A SAD STATE.

BUT BRUCE, I WOULD, I WOULD MENTION SLOW ON THE SIDE.

SO WE PROBABLY RECYCLE BETTER THAN MOST AT THE COAST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND GETTING THE CANS AND THE BOTTLES AND EVERYTHING OUT OF THOSE TRASH CANS AND GETTING 'EM RECYCLED.

I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT TOO MUCH.

THERE'S NOTHING LEFT.

WHITE STREAM TOO.

LOS ALTO PEOPLE.

YEAH.

THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING SURE WE ARE RECYCLING.

ANY, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER STATEMENTS, ANYTHING? UH, WE GO TO PUBLIC NOW.

UH, GOING TO MARINE MAINTENANCE AND CORY FOREST.

OH, THERE YOU GO, CORY.

SORRY.

NO WORRIES.

HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO FIRST WE'LL START WITH TREES IN THE BAY.

UM, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ALL TREES HAVE BEEN MOVED OUTTA STORAGE.

WOO-HOO.

THEY HAVE ALL BEEN STRONG WITH NEW LED LIGHTS.

ALL OF 'EM, ALL OF THEM.

ALL OF THEM.

WE HAVE ABOUT 30 TREES AS OF TODAY HAVE BEEN LAUNCHED INTO THE WATER AT EIGHTIES LAUNCH RAMP.

UH, THE PLAN IS TO DEPLOY 14 TREES TO UPPER BAY NEXT THURSDAY, LOW TIDE TO GET UNDER THE BRIDGE.

UM, AND THEN I'M WORKING TO INSTALL HELICAL ANCHORS OVER IN COLORADO LAGOON FOR THE TREES IN THE BAY AND A NEW SWIM LINE.

UM, THIS YEAR WE'LL BE INSTALLING NINE NEW SOLAR CHRISTMAS TREES AT THE LAGOON.

GREAT.

AND

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THE A BUOY OUT HERE IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS OUT FROM DELIVERY AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT SET.

UM, PROJECTS THAT'S WITH THE LIGHT ON IT, CORRECT? NO LIGHT ON A BUOY.

NO LIGHT ON B.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SORRY.

UM, PROJECTS IN THE WORKS, UH, SOLAR FOR THE MARINE, STEADY MARINE STADIUM GRANDSTANDS AND SOLAR FOR THE GROUNDS LANDSCAPE BUILD OUT.

UH, WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO THOSE IN THE NEXT MONTH AHEAD.

UM, PROJECTS COMPLETED.

WE COMPLETED THE, UH, CRACK FILL SLURRY SEAL AND STRIKING TO MATCH EXISTING OVER AT THE COLORADO LAGUNA PARKING LOT.

AND THAT'S MY REPORT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

WOW.

QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER? SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NEW SOLAR CHRISTMAS TREES WILL REQUIRE BECAUSE OF THE I LITHIUM ION BATTERY REQUIREMENTS OF SOLAR, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE SOME SPECIAL STORAGE.

IS THAT THE CASE? WE WE'RE GONNA SET UP SOME STORAGE OVER IN OUR STORAGE AREA FOR THEM, YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, , JUST A THOUGHT.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA USE THESE NINE TREES TO SEE ABOUT THE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES.

UH, WE ARE DEPLOYING LITHIUM ION BATTERIES WITH THESE TREES.

MM-HMM, .

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PHASING THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT AND PRODUCTIVE USE AS WELL AS STORAGE FOR SAFETY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING IT SECTION BY SECTION, PHASE BY PHASE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE USING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GONNA BE EFFICIENT IN THE LONG RUN.

TODD, IS THAT LITHIUM ION OR POSSIBLE LITHIUM ION? SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION REAL QUICK.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, SORRY, AFTER HAVING DONE MY HOMEWORK, UM, SHOWS THAT THERE WERE, UH, I BELIEVE 62 CHRISTMAS TREES PART OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO THE TUNE OF $385,000 AS AN EXPENDITURE.

UM, NINE OF THEM ARE BEING DEPLOYED.

SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE REST OF THEM? SO THAT'S A ONE TIME, ONE TIME, UH, ENHANCEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF, OF THE SOLAR, UH, EQUIPMENT AND STORAGE.

AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CONTINUE TO ROLL THAT ENHANCEMENT OVER YEAR AFTER YEAR UNTIL WE'VE PURCHASED ALL ALL OF THE SOLAR EQUIPMENT TO, UH, SOLAR POWER, ALL OF OUR TREES.

SO LIKE WE SAID, WE WANT TO DO IT PHASE BY PHASE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, PRODUCTIVE MANNER.

SO, UM, SO HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE, HOW MANY TREES DO YOU ANTICIPATE THEN SORT OF RELEASING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SOLAR POWER? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'LL BE TO BE DETERMINED.

TO BE DETERMINED.

YEAH.

WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING CAPACITY.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT, OKAY, THIS NOT, WE DID ONE LAST YEAR AND NOW WE'RE TAKING THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

WE'RE DOING NINE THIS YEAR.

LET'S SEE HOW EFFECTIVE WE ARE.

ONE IN DEPLOYMENT, TWO IN MAINTAINING, AND THREE IN, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? BRINGING 'EM OUT IN STORAGE.

SO, UH, AND WE'RE KEEPING 'EM IN ONE AREA.

I THINK THAT'S THE GREAT IDEA OF HAVING IT THERE.

SOMETHING DOES GO WRONG, ROCK ON WHAT IT DOESN'T.

UH, YOU HAVE IT IN ONE AREA AWAY FROM BOATS.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN, WE WANT TO DO PHASING SO THAT WE REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO WITH THE STORAGE OF THESE BATTERIES FOR, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANYONE SIR? I DO.

IT'S UH, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT SERGEANT S SPANGLER.

JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK HE'S BACK SOON.

WHATEVER IS WRONG.

UH, HE'S A GREAT GUY AND HE NEEDS THAT PAYING A SALARY WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING .

WOW.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S GOOD.

WE CAN GO, SINCE WE HAVE A A PERSON A SECOND, WE CAN GO TO APPROVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANYONE AGAINST SAME, NONE APPROVED, UH, COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS, UH, ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

I WAS THERE WITH CHAIR MURRAY.

UH, WE REVIEWED EVERYTHING, UH, TODAY, UH, ON OUR AGENDA.

UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, OF COURSE WAS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE STANDARDS ON THE LIFEGUARDS.

AND WE'LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER ON FROM THE CITY.

UH, IF THE, THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT AND BASICALLY HAVE ADVERTISEMENT ON OUR LIFEGUARD STANCE.

UM, INTERESTING, INTERESTING PROSPECT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, UH, IN THE MONTHS TO COME.

SO, UH, I'M JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

UH, WE HAD A FINANCE COMMITTEE.

DO I NEED TO DO AVE YOU CAN GIVE A BASIC REPORT OF WHAT YOU HEARD AND WHAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LOOKING AT THE DOLLAR SPENT AND, AND REALIZING

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THAT WHEN THE TIDELAND FUNDS GOING AWAY, BECAUSE OIL PROPERTIES COME IN, WE GET A LOT OF OUR MONEY FROM OIL AND THAT IS ALL GOING TO GO AWAY.

SO FINDING OUT NEW WAYS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET MONEY WITHOUT TRULY GOING TO THE BOAT OPERATORS IS SAYS , YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, , IT IS GOING UP AND UH, UH, GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT.

IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE CREATIVE.

WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO FIND NEW WAYS.

UH, AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE MARINE AND THE TIDELANDS, IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UH, WITH A CAPITAL B UH, IS LOOKING AT REDOING THAT WHOLE AREA.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK OUR MAYOR IS DEFINITELY, UH, NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED OF, BUT IS OPENING THE DOORS FOR BROADER IDEAS.

UH, AND I'M LOOKING AT HIS VISION OF WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

SOME OF THEM IS WITH THE, THE TEMPORARY CONCERT SERIES THAT THEY'LL HAVE OUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY NOT LOUD BECAUSE THEY'LL MOVE EVERYTHING AND HAVE POINTED OVER TO THE PORTS AND NOT POINTING AT, UH, EVERYBODY ON THE LIVER BOARDS OVER IN THE, IN THE BAY THERE.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT, UH, THOSE TWO, UH, UH, WE ARE STILL SOLVENT.

WE STILL HAVE THE DOLLARS COMING IN.

UH, AND I, I THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY THAT, THAT LIVES IN THE PORTS AND, AND RENTS OUR SPACE, UH, HERE IN IN THE BAY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THAT'S, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.

UM, AND TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND TO WANT IT CLEAN.

AND WE HAVE SOME NEW IDEAS ON SOME OF THE, WE DIDN'T BRING IT UP, BUT WE WILL BRING IT UP IN THE NEXT MEETING ON SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE ON KEEPING THE WATER CLEAN AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD ON.

SO, UH, THOSE ARE OUR TWO, UH, COMMITTEE STATUS.

ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? YES MA'AM.

I HAVE A COMMITTEE, UH, REPORT.

OH, YES, PLEASE.

THAT'S RIGHT, WE DO.

I THINK WE'RE FINISHED.

YES, I'M FINISHED.

SO, UM, I'M, UH, REPORTING ON THE 1938 SURFING HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST SUBCOMMITTEE FORMED BY THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE MAC AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF SURF RIDER FOUNDATION AND UM, UH, A LOCAL HISTORIAN WHO'S WORKING WITH US.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, LONG BEACH WAS THE SITE OF THE FIRST NATIONAL SURFING AND PADDLE BOARD COMPETITION IN 1938.

IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY CALIFORNIA HISTORIC POINT OF INTEREST IN THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE MARINA, WHICH WHICH WAS ONCE A HISTORIC BEACH WAY BACK IN THE DAY.

UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO TELL YOU THAT OUR, UH, COMMITTEE HAS MET, WE SORT OF HAVE A VISION STATEMENT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET WE HAVE ALREADY UNDER THE AUSPICES OF SURF WRITER FOUNDATION ASKING US, UH, ACTING AS OUR FISCAL PARTNER HAVE, UM, APPLIED FOR OUR FIRST GRANT.

UH, WE ARE TALKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO, FOR INSTANCE, THE INFORMATION WE'VE JUST RECEIVED ABOUT THE LONG TERM PLANNING OF, UH, ENVISIONING FOR THE DOWNTOWN SHORELINE MARINA AREA.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO DOVETAIL OUR NOTIONS OF WHERE A PARTICULAR PLAQUE OR A MEMORIAL OR A PHYSICAL KIND OF METO OF THIS SPECIAL SURFING EVENT, UH, MIGHT BE.

OR DEALING WITH A POTENTIAL ARTIST AND A BLANK WALL THAT COULD BE A MURAL TO CELEBRATE THIS, UM, IMPORTANT ACHIEVEMENT FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

SO THAT'S OUR COMMITTEE AND WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN IN A MONTH.

AND I, I WILL ADD TO THAT IT WAS PRETTY EXCITING ON THE VISIONS OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

UH, JUST THE HISTORY OF WHAT LONG BEACH WAS AND WHAT LONG BEACH IS.

I MEAN, COME ON DUDE.

COME ON.

COME.

KAHAN KAHANA.

UM, WE STILL HAVE HIS SURFBOARD SOMEWHERE IN LONG BEACH.

WE'RE GONNA FIND IT .

UM, IT IS MAYBE IN SHELDRAKE'S COFFEE.

I TALKED TO MIKE TODAY.

THAT COULD BE HIS, HIS SURFBOARD.

UM, BUT IT IS ABOUT OUR HISTORY AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND KNOW THAT, THAT WE'RE IN IT FOR THE LONG TERM.

MUCH LIKE, UH, YOU ARE DOING THIS IS FOR THE LONG TERM.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL WORK WITH US TOO AND, AND HAVE AN OPEN DOOR.

'CAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR MAP, I WENT OVER AND WHISPERED AND SAID, OH MY GOD, THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK.

WE'RE GONNA BE ATTACHED, WILL BE ATTACHED.

SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS ON THAT.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ANYBODY, UH, SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT? I APPRECIATE THAT AND UH, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

GREAT.

AND NOW WE GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME REN UH, ADVISORY COMMISSION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER WILL LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS UNLESS EXTENDED BY THE CHAIR.

WE CAN'T COMMENT, YOU WON'T HEAR US, WE MAY SMILE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, UH, BUT IT IS TRULY UP FOR YOU.

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO STATE, PLEASE UH, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND LET US KNOW.

WE'LL GO BY A RAISE OF HANDS.

YES MA'AM.

SO MY NAME'S JOAN POLANCO.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE LONG BEACH MARINE BOAT NURSE ASSOCIATION.

AND, UM, JUST, WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS, UM, IN THIS PAST YEAR AND HAD PHENOMENAL SUPPORT FROM THE MARINE GIRL, FROM

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TODD AND AND BRIAN.

UM, AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.

UM, AT THESE MEETINGS, BOA MEMBERSHIP IS NOT REQUIRED.

UM, THEY'RE FREE TO ATTEND, THEY'RE FOCUSED TO THE SLIP HOLDERS AND AGAIN, THE MARINE BUREAU HELPS US REACH THE SLIP HOLDERS.

IN ADDITION TO OUR OWN NUMBERS, IN FEBRUARY WE MET AT SHORELINE, UM, MARINO AND SHORELINE YACHT CLUB.

IN SEPTEMBER, WE HAD A SUMMIT OF, IT WAS A SMALL GROUP OF THE COMMODORE OF ALL THE YACHT CLUBS AND THEY ALL CAME.

AND THEN WE WENT AROUND AND ASKED ALL THE MERCHANTS.

WE GOT TWO MERCHANTS TO RESPOND.

ONE WAS WEST MARINE AND THE OTHER ONE WAS UM, BAND CAMP.

WHY DO I WANT, FORGET HIS NAME.

BANDCAMP WHI WHITLAM FROM BANDCAMP.

IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TO HAVE WHIT THERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE REPRESENTS A LOT OF US.

AND THEN LAST NIGHT, UM, WE HAD, UM, AT AL ABOUT ALAMEDO BAY MARINA AND THAT WAS AT SYLVIE YACHT CLUB.

AND NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE, UM, A MEETING AT UM, A BYC AND THAT'LL BE FOCUSED ON THE OLYMPICS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT, IT'S A LIVELY GROUP.

I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ADOPT SOMETHING I THINK THAT FROM MARINE BUREAU, FROM, FROM THESE MEETINGS IS 'CAUSE THEY ARE REALLY VOCAL AND I'M GONNA HAVE LINE UP AND, AND, UH, MAYBE LIMIT THEIR COMMENT TIME ANYWAY.

YOU KNOW, LOTS OF THINGS ARE TALKED ABOUT IN AMONG THE GROUP.

IT'S THE CLEAN WATER, IT'S THE A BM PARKING LOT.

IT'S, IT'S THE EVENTS, IT'S THIS AND THAT.

THE OTHER THING, UM, BUT ONE OF THE COMMON BETWEEN ALL OF THEM IS SAFETY AND SECURITY.

UM, THERE'S JUST, AND PEOPLE ARE VERY PASSIONATE AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT COME TO THESE MEETINGS THAT RELAY THEIR PERSONAL STORIES AND WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE SUPPORT AND A LOT OF CONFUSION BETWEEN MARINE PATROL'S RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE CITIES AND WHO TO GO AND WHERE TO GO AND WHAT TO DO.

UM, AS A RESULT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH TODD AND BRIAN, THEY CREATED THIS FOR US.

UM, AND WE JUST HANDED THIS OUT LAST NIGHT.

AND, UH, SO I, I HOPE THIS HELPS, UM, WITH THAT ISSUE.

BUT ANYTHING, IT JUST, A LOT OF, LOT OF CONFUSION AND A LOT OF, WELL OF COURSE EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR COMPLAINT HANDLED NOW.

UM, WE ALSO WERE PROACTIVE WITH SHORELINE AS A RESULT OF THE MEETING WITH SHORELINE ABOUT WHO TO CALL WHEN YOU HAD A PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT AND SOMEBODY'S, THEY SEE SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, STEALING THE CAR, NOT, YOU KNOW, BREAKING INTO A CAR OR WHATEVER.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL.

AND SO WE'VE GIVEN THEM A SPECIAL EVENTS NUMBER TO CALL AND TOLD THEM THAT, OF COURSE THEY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT TOLD THEM, YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE, NOBODY'S GONNA CALL YOU BACK.

BUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, IT GOES INTO THE PROCESS AND, BUT WHO TO CALL INSTEAD? SO WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH, GIVE MORE TOOLS TO THE, UM, BOAT OWNERS, SLIP HOLDERS.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT IS, I JUST FEEL I REALLY IS REPRESENTING THEM.

I HAVE TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.

GREAT.

UM, AND SO 10 SECONDS.

OKAY.

UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BOA ON THIS BOARD.

TIM IS, UM, HAS ACTIVELY REACHED OUT AND CONTACTED SOME OF THE MATH MEMBERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POSITION WOULD ENTAIL.

UM, BOA REALLY NEEDS THAT.

TOM MAYS WAS ON THE BOARD AND THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.

SO WE ARE GONNA, UM, I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE PROCESS, I DON'T THINK YET.

BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT TIM EARLY IN HIS, UH, QUEST TO BE ON THE BOARD AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SIR NAME AND, UH, MY NAME IS ANDY KERN.

I WANT TO THANK ALL YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING.

I KNOW THIS IS NOT EASY FOR Y'ALL.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS, UH, TRYING TO LISTEN TO ME.

I, I'M GOING THROUGH A SITUATION BY THE, I'M KIND OF A LONE WOLF IN THIS WHOLE THING BECAUSE I CAN'T GET HOLD OF ANY OTHER BOATS THAT ARE IN THIS PREDICAMENT THAT I'M IN.

I, I'VE BEEN RACING SAIL MY WHOLE LIFE.

UH, I'M TRYING TO DO A CAMPAIGN FOR THE OLYMPICS IN THE 49 ER, UH, FOR, FOR LA PROBABLY WON'T GET THERE, BUT I'M GONNA TRY.

I GOT A FIN SAILBOAT THAT I'M CROSS TRAINING IN.

I WAS, I KEPT MY BOAT AT THE STATE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER WITH MY MASK BEING UP.

OKAY.

NOW, LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, BRIAN, I I MEAN, I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME.

TODD WAS, WAS VERY NICE TO ME.

SAID YOU CAN'T KEEP, KEEP YOUR MASK UP THERE.

ANYWAY, SO THEN HE SAID, HE SUGGESTED I GO, I'M TRYING TO TALK FAST.

HE SUGGESTED THAT I GO TO THE P AND A ASSOCIATION AND I TALKED TO TWO GENTLEMEN, PETER HOGANSON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW HIM.

HE WAS A VERY FINE GUY.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S GONE NOW.

HE HE'S A FABULOUS GENTLEMAN.

AND

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HOWIE HAMLIN, THEY FOUND A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT I, I'D LIKED TO EMAIL TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A MASK UP POSITION.

THERE WAS A MASK UP POSITION.

AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T OBSTRUCT PEOPLE'S VIEW OF, OF THE PENINSULA.

'CAUSE I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THE THING WAS.

THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH THE HAARD, WITH PEOPLE'S HAARD NOT MAKING ANY NOISE.

THIS IS A PICTURE I HAVE OF MY SAILBOAT.

I DUNNO IF YOU CAN ALL SEE THIS.

THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE LAST, THIS IS THE LAST, UH, THING THAT'S UP.

IT'S RIGHT, IT'S RIGHT ADJACENT TO, UH, ALAMEDA BAY YACHT CLUB, WHICH OF COURSE HAS A LOT OF MASS RIGHT IN THE UPRIGHT POSITION.

SO MY MASS HERE IS, IS, IS RIGHT HERE.

IT'S NOT OBSTRUCTING ANYBODY.

THIS IS THE LAST HOUSE.

AND I WAS HOPING THAT YOU GUYS COULD MODIFY THE, I DON'T WANNA BE TREATED DIFFERENT.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE FAIR, OKAY? I DON'T WANT, LIKE, ONE GUY CAN'T HAVE A MASK AND I CAN'T, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE HOMEOWNERS DON'T WANT MASKS IN FRONT OF THEM.

THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT OBSTRUCTIONS.

BUT IN, IN, IN THESE NOTES THAT I CAN SEND YOU, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME.

I CAN SEND YOU THESE DOCUMENTS THAT THERE WAS IN FACT A MASKED UP POSITION.

AND IF ANYBODY'S IN A MASKED UP POSITION, AS MR. HOGENSON SAID ON THE VERY FAR EAST SIDE ADJACENT TO THE YACHT CLUB, I'M IN IT, I'M VERY LUCKY TO BE IN IT.

BUT I AM IN IT AND THIS IS LIKE A, EXCUSE ME, TRYING TO KEEP THIS QUICK FOR Y'ALL.

THIS IS A REALLY DEBILITATING SITUATION FOR ME.

IT'S NOT LIKE A LASER.

THIS TAKES ME LIKE AN HOUR, PROBABLY AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS TO PUT THE MASK UP.

'CAUSE I GOT ALL THESE LINES I GOT PUT TOGETHER, TAKE THE MASK DOWN.

IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A TWO HOUR SITUATION.

LIKE, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO BE DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY.

I DON'T WANNA BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.

I JUST WANT WHAT'S FAIR.

AND IN THESE, IN THESE PAST DOCUMENTS, THEY, THEY, EVEN, EVEN THE MARINE GUY THAT WAS IN TODD'S POSITION, I FORGET HIS NAME, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? , THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

EXCELLENT.

HE WOULD'VE FREE THE CAR.

BUT BASICALLY HE, HE EVEN SAID THAT THE FOUR FOOT THING, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS JUST THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BOAT, MY BOAT'S ABOUT THREE FEET LONGER OR LESS OR HIGH OR LESS THAN THAT.

HE EVEN STATED THAT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE, HE DIDN'T WANT IT TO INCLUDE THE MASKS.

HE WANTED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MASKS UP THERE.

NOT ONLY THIS, YOU GUYS ARE REALLY GREAT WITH OUTREACH, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

I MEAN, ALL THESE PEOPLE ON THE BEACH, THESE GUYS ARE SO NICE TO ME.

THEY HELP ME WITH MY BOAT.

THEY GOT LITTLE KIDS, THEY'RE, OH, YOU GOT A BOAT, IT'S SO PRETTY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

THEY'RE TALKING ALL THIS STUFF.

THEY WANNA GET INTO SAILING.

SO LIKE WHEN, WHEN I CAN GO SAILING, THEY WANT, THEY WANNA BE PART OF IT.

THEY WANT, AND I CAN SAY, HEY, GO TO THIS YACHT CLUB OR GO HERE.

THEY GOT SAILING LESSONS OUT HERE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE THING'S ABOUT IS INCLUDING EVERYBODY THEY CAN GO SAILING.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF BEGGING RIGHT NOW THAT IF I CAN, IF YOU GUYS CAN TELL, I'M GONNA GET OFF RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU GUYS CAN JUST TELL, TELL ME WHO TO SEND THE INFORMATION TO, I'LL SEND YOU THESE THINGS AND I JUST BEG THAT YOU CAN MODIFY SOME OF THESE RULES BECAUSE I'M NOT HURTING ANYBODY ON THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING.

CAN ANYBODY GIVE YOU AN EMAIL TO SEND TO SOMEBODY? TODD, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU BET.

CAN POINT.

THANK YOU.

I CAN POINT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE ANYONE ELSE? YES SIR TODD? UH, FOREMOST OF MY CONCERNS RIGHT NOW, RICH ONE WITH THE BOAT IN SHORELINE, FOREMOST OF MY CONCERN IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH SHORELINE AND THE OLYMPICS COMING UP.

I KNOW THERE'S NO ANSWERS YET, BUT I'VE JUST URGED YOU TO GIVE US ANSWERS AS QUICK AS AVAILABLE.

UH, DON'T TRY TO DELAY THE BAD NEWS.

WE DON'T EXPECT ANY GOOD NEWS, BUT WE JUST WANNA KNOW HOW BAD IT'S GONNA BE.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW, IS IT GONNA BE MOSTLY GETTING TO THE DOCK OR IS IT LETTING US USE THE DOCK OR WHAT? GOT YEAR LONG LEASES ON THESE THINGS AND WE KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING BEST YOU CAN WITH IT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? NO ONE.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT I'M GONNA ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN ANNOUNCEMENTS.

OH, ANNOUNCEMENTS.

GO AHEAD PLEASE.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND MY FELLOW, UH, UH, MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSIONS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, NOVEMBER WILL BE THE KING TIDES OF 2024.

WOW.

OR EXTRA KING TIDES.

UH, IT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT HAVE SEEN OUR SHORE AS THE TIDES COME UP AT THE HIGHEST TIME OF THE YEAR, UH, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH AT ROUGHLY EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

AND THE NEXT DAY, SATURDAY THE 16TH AT ROUGHLY EIGHT 30 WILL BE THE HIGHEST TIDES AT, UH, OVER SIX AND A HALF FOOT.

WOW.

SO VERY EXCITING.

THERE IS A CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION WEBSITE CALLED THE KING TIDES PROJECT.

SUGGEST YOU LOG IN, LOOK FOR INFORMATION, AND UM, I'LL BE PUTTING OUT MORE INFORMATION FOR THE MAP NEXT MONTH.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I'M RETIRED SO I WILL BE THERE WITH YOU AND WE'LL BE WATCHING IT.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH THAT, UH, MOVE? DO WE ADJOURN?

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SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ADJOURNED.