Oct 15, 2024 Housing and Public Health Committee

MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU CALL FOR THE VOTE? MOTION CARRIES.

BUTTONS ARE A LITTLE STUCK.

UM, MADAM CLERK, COULD WE PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER FOUR? ITEM FOUR IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION BY NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

GO.

I THINK OUR

[4. 24-55282 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation by Neighborhood Housing Services of Los Angeles County on affordable housing programs and services. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

SHOW THEM MINE, NOT ON MINE.

SO WE HAVE A FIRST BY COUNCILMAN RICKS OTI AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER AUSTIN.

YES.

RECEIVED.

THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES.

UM, AND BEFORE WE GO TO THIS PRESENTATION BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES OF LA COUNTY, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER RICKS OTI FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE OFFICE'S ATTENTION FOR TODAY'S COMMITTEE MEETING.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

ANY REMARKS? UH, NO, EXCEPT FOR, UM, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD, WE GOT A CHANCE TO GET A, UM, KIND OF A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO ALL THE, UM, WONDERFUL SERVICES THAT

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UM, AND WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL AS WE AS A CITY ARE THINKING ABOUT, UM, BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT A HOUSING OF ALL TYPES.

UM, TO REALLY PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO LAYER AND POSITION OURSELVES IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE, UM, TO, TO, UH, TO PROVIDE, UM, SERVICES AND NEEDED HOUSING TO OUR RESIDENTS.

WELCOME.

COOL.

UM, SO I'M GERALD PHILLIPS.

I'M THE POLICY DIRECTOR AT NHS OF L COUNTY.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE BEING IN LONG BEACH.

IT'S A LONG DRIVE FOR ME, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO BE DOWN HERE.

UM, SO WE'LL GO NEXT SLIDE.

SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRO OF NHS, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1984.

WE'RE GENERALLY KNOWN AS THE COUNTY'S LARGEST HOME OWNERSHIP ASSISTANCE AGENCY.

SO WE DO COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES SUCH AS HOME OWNERSHIP TRAINING.

WE OFFER, UH, AFFORDABLE, UM, LENDING.

UM, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE.

WELL, SO YEAH, HERE ARE OUR SERVICES, FINANCIAL EDUCATION, AFFORDABLE LENDING.

WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UH, GROUP AND MISSION DRIVEN, UH, REAL ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

AND WE HAVE A LEGACY PROJECT, WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE GENERATIONAL WEALTH, UH, PROGRAM.

SO THIS IS A, OUR 40 YEAR IMPACT REPORT.

UM, WE'VE REINVESTED 10, UH, BILLION DOLLARS INTO THE COUNTY.

UM, WE'VE REACHED, UH, UH, WE REACHED, UH, 4.75 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS.

UM, AND, UM, WE'VE CREATED, UM, UH, 58,000 JOBS.

AND HERE'S, UH, THE AFFORDABLE LENDING, UH, PROGRAMS. UH, IT'S AFFORDABLE FINANCING, UM, HOME PURCHASE, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY PICK UP WITH THE INTEREST RATES, UH, GOING DOWN DON'T MOVE IMPROVE, WHICH IS, UH, UH, HOME REHABILITATION PROGRAM.

AND WE OFFER, UM, FINANCING FOR A DS AS WELL, WHICH I KNOW ARE POPULAR HERE IN LONG BEACH.

HERE'S, UM, OUR CLIENT PROFILE FROM THE PAST FISCAL YEAR.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF OUR CLIENTS HAVE BEEN LATINO AT 42%.

UM, AFRICAN AMERICAN CLIENTS AT 36 ASIAN AMERICAN AT 13.

UH, THE LARGEST AGE GROUP IS, UH, 30 TO 44 AT 41%, AND WE HAVE 62% FEMALE CLIENTS IN 72% OF OUR CLIENTS ARE 8% OR BELOW THE 80, UH, AREA, 80 INCOME.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS A CLIENT PROFILE FROM HERE IN, IN LONG BEACH.

SO OUR CLIENT ATTENDED THE HOPE, OUR HOPE WORKSHOP, AND OUR FAST TRACK COURSE, WHICH IS A HUD APPROVED EIGHT HOUR, UM, HOME OWNERSHIP TRAINING COURSE, WHICH GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, UH, THE PURCHASE PRICE, WHICH IS GREAT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WITH $675,000.

THE CLIENT DOWN PAYMENT WAS ABOUT 3% OF THE PURCHASE PRICE, WHICH WAS WELL OVER $20,000.

THE CLIENT RECEIVED $25,000 IN DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

UM, AND THE CLIENT WAS ABLE TO ACCESS THE GREEN LIGHT HOME PROGRAM GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH WE MANAGED FOR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES.

AND THAT IS AROUND, THAT WAS AROUND 35, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND, UH, YEAH, THIS IS OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

UM, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US, AND THESE ARE OUR HANDLES FOR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK.

UM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, DEPENDING ON, UH, WHERE THEY ARE IN THE COUNTY.

UM, I BELIEVE OUR, UH, MEMBERS HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SURE.

UH, WELL, IT'S NOT SHOWING UP, BUT COUNCILMAN RICK OTI AND THEN SURE.

WE'LL GO TO VICE AUSTIN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, I FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU, I KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO GO A LITTLE BIT FOR SPEED, BUT SURE.

I FEEL LIKE YOU GLOSSED OVER THE FACT THAT THIS ORGANIZATION'S BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS, RIGHT? LIKE YEAH, WE, SO YOU TALK ABOUT INVESTING $10 BILLION BACK INTO THE COUNTY.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE HERE RIGHT, IS TO SAY THAT LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF LONGEVITY HERE AS FAR AS NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES AND WHAT YOU ALL CAN PROVIDE.

YES.

UM, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WAS REALLY PRESSED UPON ME WHEN THEY PRESENTED TO MY OFFICE, UM, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

TRUE.

UM, SO QUESTION, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SERVICES THAT YOU ALL PROVIDE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE FROM YOUR CLIENT PROFILE, YOU, YOU WORK IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

MM-HMM.

HOW DO PEOPLE APPLY FOR YOUR SERVICES? WELL, IT, INITIALLY IT'S JUST FOLKS, IT, PART OF IT IS ON OUR END, UM, DOING OUTREACH, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER.

UM, WE ALSO TRY TO ENGAGE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE THE CITY, LONG BEACH,

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UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE ATTRACT THOSE FOLKS TO COME IN.

UM, AND WE JUST OFFER THEM A, A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF SERVICES.

IT COULD BE, UM, FOR SOME FOLKS, UM, IT COULD BE HOME REHAB.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN ADUS THESE DAYS, OR IT COULD BE, UM, ASSISTANCE TOWARDS HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH WE HOPE WILL PICK UP WITH THE INTEREST RATES.

SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CATCH PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY COME, WHEREVER THEY ARE, UM, AND MAKING THEM AWARE OF OUR SERVICES.

LOVELY.

UM, AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, LORI GAY, WHO IS THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HAS ACTUALLY JOINED US, UM, AS WELL.

LORI, DO YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS? I MEAN, WE'RE STILL IN THE PRESENTATION PHASE.

WE HAVE TIME.

IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA SHARE YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

UM, LORI HAS BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR DECADES.

, I'D JUST SAY THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY I WAS SITTING IN TRAFFIC FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, BUT I THINK THE KEY IS WE WANNA, HI, COUNCIL AUSTIN.

UH, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SERVE HOWEVER WE CAN.

AND RIGHT NOW AS WE TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, IT'S, IT'S HIT AND MISS PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER.

LONG BEACH IS GETTING SERVED, BUT THE STRATEGY WOULD BE TO BE MORE DIRECT AND DO A LOT MORE OUTREACH IN LONG BEACH TO LONG BEACH FAMILIES AND CLIENTS THAT NEED US, AND THEN HAVE LOCATION SPACE WHERE WE CAN BE OPERATING AND REALLY ASSIST IN A DIRECT WAY THAT HELPS EVERYONE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.

AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE 40 .

LOVELY, THANK YOU.

THOSE THINGS CAN BE LAYERED.

BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINK ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE A DU WORK WE ARE DOING IN THE ASSISTANCE WITH THAT, OR THE HOME OWNERSHIP DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM, THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO CHOOSE A BUCKET AS OPPOSED TO I CAN ACCESS ALL OF THESE AND LAYERING THEM TOGETHER, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY BENEFICIAL.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT? YEAH.

SO OUR PROGRAMS ARE NON-EXCLUSIVE.

SO SOME OF OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL, UM, PARTICIPANTS IN OUR HOME BUYER DOWN PAYMENT PROGRAM HAVE LAYERED STATE MONEY WITH THE CITY MONEY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, TO ACHIEVE THEIR DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

SO, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS GLAD TO, TO WORK WITH NEW PARTNERS AND, AND MAKE THAT, UM, A REALITY.

I THINK, UM, OUR A DU PROGRAM, WE HAVE MUCH MORE DEMAND THAN WE HAVE SUPPLY, SO WE'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE PARTNERS AND TALK ABOUT MORE SUSTAINABLY, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THAT PROGRAM.

BUT, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE LISTENING, YOU CAN ALWAYS, UM, COMBINE MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES.

UM, AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, A NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SOMETIMES THERE'S A CREDIT FROM THE, THE BUILDER, AND THEN YOU COULD USE OUR PROGRAM AND A A PROGRAM FROM ANOTHER AGENCY.

AND THAT'S COMPLETELY PERMISSIBLE, UM, AT LEAST UNDER OUR RULES AND MOST LENDERS RULES.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

SO WHATEVER IT TAKES IN TERMS OF THAT LAYERING TO MAKE IT WORK, I THINK IS, IS THE RIGHT APPROACH.

UM, AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION WAS, I KNOW YOU, YOU DISCUSSED THE HOPE WORKSHOP THAT YOU, THAT YOU OFFER FOLKS, UM, BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE FUNDING.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE HOPE WORKSHOP COVERS AND IF WE WANTED TO, IF, AND DO YOU OFFER, HAVE YOU HAVE YOU AND ARE YOU PLANNING TO OFFER THAT WORKSHOP IN LONG BEACH , COME ON DOWN.

IT'S GONNA DEFER.

THE HOPE WORKSHOP IS MEANT TO BE A SUMMARY OF ALL THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER IN A FREE ORIENTATION WORKSHOP FORMAT, 45 MINUTES, YOU'RE IN AND OUT, ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THEM DIRECTLY IN LONG BEACH.

AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IF THERE'S AN OPEN DOOR, WE'LL GO.

YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM IS ALL OVER THE REGION, CERTAINLY TRYING TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC ALL THE TIME.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE, HAPPY TO OFFER WORKSHOPS.

A LOT IS DONE ONLINE AND I'M SHOCKED BY THAT.

'CAUSE I'VE BEEN AT NHSA VERY LONG TIME, AND MOST PEOPLE I ALWAYS THOUGHT PREFERRED IN PERSON.

BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING POST COVID, OF COURSE, IS THAT PEOPLE GOT ACCUSTOMED TO ZOOM.

AND PARTICULARLY WITH OUR SENIORS, THAT I'M ALWAYS SURPRISED AND AMAZED.

I KNOW WHAT MY MOTHER AND MOTHER-IN-LAW WERE LIKE, THE MOTHER-IN-LAW WOULD NEVER ON THE COMPUTER AND MY MOTHER COULDN'T LEAVE IT ALONE.

SO THAT RANGE, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO BE AVAILABLE.

SO WE'RE DOING BOTH.

AND I THINK IF THEY'RE, UH, WE TRY TO ASSESS DEMAND.

I WOULDN'T WANT A TEAM MEMBER TO COME OVER FROM COMPTON WHERE WE HAVE A FACILITY FOR TWO PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

BUT IF WE CAN GET THE, THE NUMBERS AT LEAST TO 10 KIND OF THING, THAT'S HOW WE THINK.

AND THEN SOMEONE COMES ON SITE AND IT IS

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A FREE SERVICE.

I STILL ARM TWIST THAT MONEY.

YOU WERE AT OUR GALA.

WE'RE ALWAYS ARM TWISTING.

DOESN'T CHANGE.

BUT I DO THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

AND THAT'S AS A HEAD APPROVED COUNSELING AGENCY, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF OURS.

IT'S ONE THING IF YOU'RE GETTING A LOAN MODIFIED OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT REQUIRES DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THE INFORMATION SHOULD ALWAYS BE FREE.

AND SO WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO DO THAT, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE AVAILABLE TO LONG BEACH RESIDENTS.

LOVELY.

UH, AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION.

COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LEGACY PROGRAM? I KNOW GERALD MENTIONED IT, BUT I THINK WE DON'T OFTEN HEAR, PARTICULARLY IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, A LOT OF, UH, CONVERSATIONS AROUND WEALTH BUILDING GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

RIGHT.

WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNIQUE ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM, AND I'D LOVE TO YOU TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AND IT'S HOW DO WE PASS ON TO FUTURE GENERATIONS, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED AND AMASSED, AND THAT THERE'S NO SHAME IN TALKING THROUGH OUR MONEY AND OUR ASSETS.

THE LEGACY PROJECT IS A 10-YEAR-OLD CONCEPT.

UM, I HAVE THESE IDEAS, MOST OF 'EM GET THROWN ON THE FLOOR.

AND THEN THERE'S WHAT CAN WE ACTIVATE? AND I THINK COUNCILMAN, SINCE I'VE SEEN YOU, WE'VE REALLY TAKEN OFF WITH THE LEGACY PROGRAMMING.

AND ONE OF MY DREAMS WAS ALWAYS TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THE CRADLE TO GRAVE CONVERSATION, EVEN THOUGH THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE MORBID, BUT YOUR WHOLE LIFETIME.

AND IT'S HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE IN THAT WAY? AND THEN COVID HIT, SO WE SLOWED DOWN SOME, BUT WHAT WE KEPT SEEING IS THAT PEOPLE GET ALL THE WAY TOWARD THEIR END, WHATEVER THAT IS, AND THEY MAY HAVE A HOUSE FREE AND CLEAR.

THAT'S 30% OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE, AND WE HAVE SIX, 7,000 PEOPLE A YEAR.

WE'RE TALKING TO A THIRD OF THEM.

BEING FREE AND CLEAR ON THEIR PROPERTIES IS DANGEROUS IN THE SCHEME OF THE REAL ESTATE WORLD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HUSTLING THEM, RIGHT.

TRYING TO GET THEM TO GIVE UP THAT PROPERTY.

AND THEY'RE NOT THINKING LEGACY AND THINKING, I'VE OWNED THIS FOR 40, 50 YEARS.

'CAUSE WHEN THEY TALK TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, THE FAMILY MEMBERS DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO TAKE OVER THE HOUSE.

SO MANY OF OUR SENIORS ARE TAKING OUT REVERSE MORTGAGES, WHICH WE DON'T LIKE.

AND I STAY IN TROUBLE WITH HUD ON THAT, BUT I'VE TOLD HIM, YOU GUYS GOTTA RELAX THAT THING, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A SENIOR PAYING 18% INTEREST THAT'S NOT DUE AND PAYABLE TILL THEY PASS AWAY.

'CAUSE WHEN THEY DO PASS ON, THEIR FAMILY CAN'T PAY FOR IT AND THE HOUSE IS LOST.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

THERE ARE 50.

AND SO I THINK OUR JOB, IF WE'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE IN THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION BUSINESS, IS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEIR LIFETIME HOW THEY CAN ACCESS CERTAIN RESOURCES.

SO WE'VE NOW ADDED IN THE LAST YEAR A NUMBER OF ESTATE PLANNING ATTORNEYS.

AND IT HAS BEEN A REMARKABLE PROCESS.

VERY HARD.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT AS A SEASONED PROGRAMMING PROFESSIONAL KIND OF THING, WE'RE ALL TECHNICAL, BUT THE LAWYERS BRING A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF KICK.

AND THIS IS HOW IT HAS TO BE.

AND OUR FAMILIES OF COLOR DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT DEATH.

THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LONG HAUL.

THEY DON'T.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS, I'LL JUST SAY THIS QUICKLY THAT HAS MATTERED TO ME IS THE LADY WHO TEACHES MOST OF OUR LARGE SESSION, UH, LEGACY SUMMIT ESTATE PLANNING WORKSHOPS, SAID SOME TWO YEARS AGO NOW.

SHE SAID, WHEN RICH WHITE PEOPLE HAVE CHILDREN, THOSE CHILDREN KNOW FROM THE DAY THEY'RE BORN ALMOST WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO ATTAIN THE WEALTH THAT THEIR PARENTS HAVE AVAILABLE.

IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THAT PLAN, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

AND SHE SAID, AND WE'VE STUDIED IT AS ESTATE PLANNERS, THAT CHANGES EVEN WITH RICH PEOPLE OF COLOR BECAUSE THERE'S THIS NOTION THAT IT'S NOT OKAY TO WITHHOLD OR WITHDRAW FROM YOUR CHILD IN ANY WAY.

SHE SAID, BUT IT'S NOT TRUE.

MAP OUT THE PLAN, WRITE THAT VISION DOWN, AND THEN YOUR CHILDREN HAVE A PATH OF ACHIEVEMENT.

AND THEY CAN CHOOSE NOT TO FOLLOW THAT, BUT AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHAT'S REQUIRED IF THEY WANT TO INHERIT WHAT YOU HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO ATTAIN.

AND THAT WAS LIFE CHANGING FOR ME TO HEAR IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE PARTICULARLY IN BLACK CULTURE, IT'S, IT'S NEVER SEEN AS APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT OUR MONEY WITH OUR CHILDREN.

MY KIDS KNOW EVERY DIME I MAKE, THEY KNOW HOW I'VE BEEN SPENDING IT.

THEY CHECK ME WHEN THEY THINK I'M GOING PAST THE BOUNDARIES I'VE SET.

THIS IS HELPFUL.

AND IT'S MAKING THEM BITTER LADIES NOW 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR EARLY TWENTIES.

BUT ABSENT HEARING SOME OF THAT, I, WE ALWAYS WERE JUST RESERVED.

AND THAT'S A CULTURAL TRAINING ISSUE.

PICK A GROUP.

SO WHAT SHE WAS SAYING TO ALL OF US IS THAT IF WE'RE UNDERSERVED, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE SERVE UP WHAT WE NEED AND THEN GET GREAT INFORMATION, NOT JUST GOOD INFORMATION.

WHAT DOES EXCELLENCE LOOK LIKE? TEACH A CHILD THAT FROM THE DAY THEY'RE BORN AND THEY'RE GONNA STRIVE FOR MORE.

AND SO I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT WEALTH, THERE IS NO SHAME IN HAVING A LOT.

NOW I'M IN THE EARTH TO GIVE MORE THAN I TAKE.

EVERYBODY AIN'T HERE FOR THAT.

AND IF THEY WANNA AMASS THEIR WEALTH, THEN IT'S HOW DO WE HELP THEM ACHIEVE THAT WHEN THE ODDS ARE COMPLETELY AGAINST THEM? THAT'S WHAT LEGACY'S ALL ABOUT.

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AVOID THE LIABILITIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

INVEST YOUR MONEY.

WELL, SO AS A PERSON GOES TO THE LEGACY SUMMIT, OUR NEXT ONE'S ON NOVEMBER 2ND AT OUR COMPTON SITE, FIVE, 600 PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THESE SUMMITS, BUT THEN THEY HAVE A CHANCE THEY CAN MEET WITH A ESTATE PLANNING ATTORNEY THAT DAY OR IN FUTURE MONTHS.

AND OUR CONVERSION RATE RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 15%.

NOW, NHS IS PAYING FOR 90%.

I KNOW YOU REMEMBERED THIS DETAIL, COUNCILWOMAN OF THE ESTATE PLAN.

MM-HMM.

AND THE LAWYERS HAVE DISCOUNTED THE ESTATE PLANS TO $5,000.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $500 INVESTMENT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

THESE ARE NOT BAD THINGS.

THOSE KIND OF ESTATE PLANS TYPICALLY ARE 7,500 TO 10,000.

SO WE GOT THEM TO DO IT, BUT THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE MISSING THE APPOINTMENTS.

I SAID, WELL, HOLD ON.

WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO PAY IT ALL UP FRONT OR ANYTHING WEIRD.

RIGHT? AND SO WE'VE HAD TO REALLY LEARN OVER THIS LAST YEAR, AND IT'S BEEN A JOY AND A PRIVILEGE.

AND I'M SEEING MOSTLY SENIORS, BUT A WHOLE LOT OF KIND OF IN THAT MIDDLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE NAMES ARE, BUT 30 TO 50-YEAR-OLD, 55 PEOPLE ARE DOING IT AS WELL.

AND THEN A BUNCH OF SENIORS MAKING SURE THAT THEIR WISHES ARE KNOWN AND RECORDED INSTRUMENTS AND FUNDED ACCOUNTS.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HELP US ACHIEVE.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF IT.

WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOW FOR MORE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

STARTING AT THE LEGACY SUMMIT IN NOVEMBER.

WE'RE ADDING OUR KOREAN FRIENDS, THEY'VE ASKED TO JOIN, I'VE ASKED 'EM TO JOIN, AND I WANT ALL THE API COMMUNITY TO COME IN AS WELL.

RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANY COMMUNITY OF COLOR.

WE STARTED WITH BLACK AND BROWN, BUT IT MEANS NOTHING IN THE SCHEME OF ACHIEVING WEALTH.

AND I THINK THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS SIMILARLY, IF IN LONG BEACH, UH, WE'RE NEEDED TO TRY TO DO SOME WORK, PEOPLE DON'T WANNA DRIVE UP TO COMPTON, THEN WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE FIGURE IT OUT SO WE CAN BE OF SERVICE TO EVERYONE.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A LEGACY SUMMIT HERE IN LONG BEACH, .

UH, AND JUST, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, THAT DEFINITELY RESONATES WITH ME AS MY HUSBAND AND I WERE UPDATING OUR TRUST, UH, JUST THIS WEEK.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT.

YEAH, SO, UM, WE WORK WITH PARTNERS AND INTERMEDIARIES TO PROVIDE, UM, EDUCATION.

APPRECIATE IT.

VICE CHAIR AUSTIN.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO, UH, THANK, UH, NHS AND ESPECIALLY LORI, FOR, FOR BEING HERE.

I FEEL LIKE WE JUST HAD A WORKSHOP ON FINANCIAL LITERACY, UM, AND I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU OVER THE YEARS.

UM, ALWAYS WALKED AWAY, UH, A LITTLE BIT WISER.

UM, THANK YOU THAN WHEN I, I I WENT INTO THE CONVERSATION.

SO WELCOME AGAIN TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR DROPPING SOME KNOWLEDGE ON US, UM, AS A COMMITTEE AND, AND SHARING ALL OF THE GREAT BENEFITS, UH, THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS, IS WORKING ON.

UM, FINANCIAL LITERACY CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED.

UH, WE, WE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES, UM, WE WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE ALWAYS.

UM, I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS TO, UH, THE LEGACY SUMMIT.

UH, I THINK THAT WILL BE USEFUL INFORMATION FOR, FOR OUR, OUR FOLKS, UM, PARTICULARLY MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS, UM, FOLKS WHO LIVE IN, IN, IN LONG BEACH.

AND I'M SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT NORTH LONG BEACH BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY PROXIMAL TO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LOCATION.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO, UH, AND DYNAMIC PLACE TO, TO, UH, BUILD COMMUNITY AND, AND TO, TO, UH, TO GET GREAT SERVICES.

UM, AND, AND ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR TRULY BEING PURPOSE DRIVEN AS AN ORGANIZATION.

UM, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING OVER SOME A FEW YEARS NOW.

I WANNA SAY PRE COVID.

I ABOUT, UM, ESTABLISHING THE, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

AND, UH, I'M GLAD TO SEE, UM, MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER RICK TI CARRYING THE TORCH AND, AND, AND CONTINUING TO BUILD UPON, UM, THE RELATIONSHIP.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR STAFF RELATED TO THE, UM, THE HOME OWNERSHIP GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

IF WE CAN GO BACK A SLIDE THAT , DO YOU WANT THE CLIENT PROFILE SLIDE? JUST THE, I THINK IT WAS THE LAST SLIDE.

NO, NO, THIS ONE ARE YOU? NO, NOT THAT ONE.

IT HAD THE OUTLINE OF THE, THE HOME OWNERSHIP GRANTS.

OH, OKAY.

OH, GREEN LINE, UH, INFO.

WELL, ANYWAY, SO, SO WE, WE, WE OFFER $25,000 AS A CITY.

UM, HOW DOES A RESIDENT KNOW THAT THESE OTHER FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE? UH, ARE WE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION OR, UM, SHOULD WE BE TRYING TO INDEPENDENTLY CONNECT THEM WITH THE, THE OTHER SOURCE TO,

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BY THE TIME SOMEONE APPLIES TO OUR PROGRAM, WE'RE NOT GENERALLY, UM, CONNECTING THEM WITH OTHER PROGRAMS. THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

UM, IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN ABOUT CONNECTING THEM WITH THE STATE PROGRAM, WHICH IS RUN OUT OF MONEY, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, MAY BE, UH, RENEWED IN THE FUTURE.

SO, UM, WE CAN ALWAYS DO MORE, BUT USUALLY, UM, BY THE TIME THEY COME TO US, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE REALTOR AND WORKING WITH A LENDING PARTNER AND THEY ARE, UM, AWARE OF SOME OTHER PROGRAMS, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DO MORE AND CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.

WELL, I, I JUST ENVISION, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE'RE GOING TO, TO, UH, HELP SOMEONE WITH THE DOWN PAYMENT, UM, WE SHOULD BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR LIVING AND THEIR, THEIR, THEIR NEW HOME OWNERSHIP SITUATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE EXTRA ON THAT DOWN PAYMENT WILL GO A LONG WAY.

I WISH I'D HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THAT SOMETIME AGO.

THESE SERVICES WERE AVAILABLE SOMETIME BACK, BUT, BUT, UM, I, I'LL JUST, JUST THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UM, BETTER LEVERAGE THE OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS EXCELLENT.

UM, AND ENCOURAGING FOR ANYBODY THAT, AND, AND THERE'S, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFECT HUNDREDS AND MAYBE THOUSANDS OF FOLKS THAT, THAT NEED IT, BUT THE, THE LUCKY FEW THAT, THAT ARE ABLE TO GET, GET THOSE, THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE SHOULD, SHOULD BE, UM, LEVERAGING AS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE AGREE.

THANKS, COUNCILMAN.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN.

UH, AND LORI, I JUST WANTED YOU TO SHARE, SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED TO ME ON THE CALL WAS YOUR FORECLOSURE RATE FOR FOLKS THAT YOU, THAT YOU ASSIST.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU STATE THAT PUBLICLY, LIKE WHAT THAT IS? 'CAUSE IT WAS SO LOW.

IT WAS AMAZING TO ME FOR AND 40 YEARS.

AND, AND THAT'S HOW, HOW MANY AND HOW MANY HOMEOWNERS HAVE YOU ASSISTED? OH, WOW.

UH, WE HAVE A 40 YEAR IMPACT REPORT, BUT IT'S IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS NOW BECAUSE, AND ONLY AND ONLY FOUR INDIVIDUALS HAVE EVER FORECLOSED ON A HOME THAT YOU'VE ASSISTED THEM WITH GETTING.

AND I KNEW EACH ONE AND IT WAS FORECLOSURE SEASON AND WE JUST SAID TO 'EM, LOOK, RIGHT, BUT THINGS HAPPEN.

BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE FOR BEAR, MODIFY, DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, RIGHT? BUT I THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S A HEALTHINESS IN OUR REAL ESTATE MARKET, BUT IF THEY'RE PREDATORS, WE HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN FOR DRIVING.

APOLOGIES.

OH, NO, NO, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING, UM, TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, UH, WAYS WE CAN LAYER THE SUPPORTS THAT WE BRING TO FOLKS.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY, MADAM CLERK, WE'LL GO NOW TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE FIRST? OH, SORRY, I KNOW.

RECEIVED MOTION CARRIES.

NOW IF WE COULD PLEASE, UH, CALL ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.

ITEM THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A STAFF REPORT ON PROPOSED UPDATES OF THE CITY'S JUST CAUSE FOR EVICTION AND RELATED HOUSING POLICY.

JUST

[3. 24-55281 Recommendation to receive and file a staff report on proposed updates of the City’s just cause for eviction and related housing policy. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

NEED A SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR KUNZ AND HIS TEAM FOR A PRESENTATION.

SURE.

SO THIS IS A STATUS UPDATE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATE THAT WE'RE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL ON THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ONE, BUT WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS BEEN DOING.

AND MARY DOW AND ALEJANDRO SANCHEZ LOPEZ HAVE THIS ITEM TOGETHER.

PROHIBITION OF AN OWNER MOVE IN EVICTION.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE JUST CAUSE FOR TERMINATION OF TENANCY'S ORDINANCE AND AN UPDATE ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.

THE JUST CAUSE FOR TERMINATION OF TENANCY'S ORDINANCE OR JUST CAUSE ORDINANCE FOR SHORT IS THE CITY'S TENANT PROTECTION POLICY MODELED AFTER THE CALIFORNIA TENANT PROTECTION ACT OF 2019.

IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2020 AND OUTLINES THE SPECIFIC REASONS UNDER WHICH A RESIDENTIAL TENANCY OR LEASE CAN BE LEGALLY TERMINATED.

THE POLICY WAS UPDATED IN MAY IN RESPONSE TO SB 5 67, PROVIDING CLEAR GUIDELINES ON OWNER MOVE-IN AND SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL EVICTIONS, SUCH AS

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AND PROVIDING THAT A TENANT IS NOT REQUIRED TO VACATE A PROPERTY BEING REMODELED ON ANY DAYS WHERE THEY COULD CONTINUE LIVING IN THIS SPACE WITHOUT VIOLATING HEALTH SAFETY AND HABITABILITY CODES AND LAWS UNDER JUST CAUSE.

AFTER A TENANT HAS CONTINUOUSLY AND LAWFULLY OCCUPIED A RESIDENTIAL REAL PROPERTY FOR 12 MONTHS, THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN ONLY TERMINATE A TENANCY FOR A SPECIFIC REASON.

THESE REASONS FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES.

THE FIRST CATEGORY BEING WHEN THE TENANT IS AT FAULT OR AT FAULT, JUST CAUSES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THERE IS A DEFAULT IN THE PAYMENT OF RENT, A VIOLATION OF THE LEASE OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BY THE TENANT ON THE PROPERTY.

THE SECOND CATEGORY INCLUDES REASONS FOR EVICTION THAT ARE NOT THE TENANT'S FAULT, WHICH ARE CALLED NO FAULT JUST CAUSES.

THESE INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, THE INTENT TO OCCUPY THE PROPERTY BY THE OWNER, DOMESTIC PARTNER, OR DIRECT RELATIVE AS SPECIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE AS THAT PERSON'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

REMOVING THE PROPERTY FROM THE RENTAL MARKET, FOR EXAMPLE, TO CONVERT THE PROPERTY TO A DIFFERENT USE, THE OWNER COMPLYING WITH A GOVERNMENT ISSUED ORDER AND THE INTENT TO DEMOLISH OR SUBSTANTIALLY REMODEL THE PROPERTY.

CURRENTLY WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER TERMINATES A TENANCY FOR A SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL, THE TENANT MUST BE PROVIDED RELOCATION ASSISTANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,500 OR TWO MONTHS RENT.

WHICHEVER IS GREATER FOR ALL OTHER NO FAULT JUST CAUSES THE AMOUNT IS EQUAL TO ONE MONTH'S RENT, AND THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE MUST BE PROVIDED WITHIN 15 DAYS OF SERVICE OF THE TERMINATION NOTICE.

NEXT, I'LL TALK ABOUT SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL TENANCY TERMINATIONS.

SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL REFERS TO WORK THAT CAN'T BE DONE SAFELY WITH THE TENANT STILL LIVING IN THIS SPACE AND REQUIRES THEM TO VACATE FOR AT LEAST 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.

THIS INCLUDES EITHER REPLACING OR SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERING STRUCTURAL ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, OR MECHANICAL SYSTEMS THAT NEED A PERMIT OR REMOVING HAZARDOUS MATERIALS LIKE LEAD, PAINT, MOLD, OR ASBESTOS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, A TENANT IS NOT REQUIRED TO VACATE ON ANY DAYS WHERE THEY COULD SAFELY CONTINUE LIVING IN THE UNIT.

BEFORE AN OWNER ISSUES A NOTICE TO TERMINATE A TENANCY FOR SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL OR DEMOLITION, THE OWNER SHALL HAVE OBTAINED ALL NECESSARY PERMITS FOR THE WORK.

IF THE WORK IS NOT COMPLETED, THE OWNER MUST OFFER THE TENANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO RE-RENT THE UNIT UNDER THE PREVIOUS RENTAL AGREEMENT TERMS. THIS JUST CAUSE DOES NOT PREVENT THE OWNER FROM TEMPORARILY RELOCATING THE TENANT TO CONDUCT NECESSARY REMODEL WORK.

CERTAIN TYPES OF PROPERTIES ARE EXEMPT FROM THE JUST CAUSE ORDINANCE, INCLUDING OWNER OCCUPIED SHARED HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENCES, INCLUDING A RESIDENCE IN WHICH THE OWNER OCCUPANT RENTS OR LEASES.

NO MORE THAN TWO UNITS OR BEDROOMS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR A JUNIOR A DU OWNER OCCUPIED DUPLEXES HOUSING THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITHIN THE PREVIOUS 15 YEARS, AND CONDOS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AS LONG AS THE OWNER IS NOT A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST A CORPORATION OR AN LLC IN 2020, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO TRACK SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL JUST CAUSE EVICTIONS.

OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, THE CITY HAS RECEIVED TERMINATION NOTICES FOR THE DISPLACEMENT OF AT LEAST 145 TENANTS FROM WHAT WE CAN SEE WITH 45% OF THESE FILINGS OCCURRING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, AND IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HELD THREE IN-PERSON HOUSING POLICY FORUMS, AS WELL AS ONE FOCUS GROUP MEETING TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK ON SEVERAL HOUSING AND PLANNING POLICY INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE JUST CAUSE ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE SINCE RECEIVED OVER 270 WRITTEN COMMENTS.

TO SUMMARIZE THE COMMENTS, THERE'S BEEN BROAD TENANT SUPPORT FOR ELIMINATION OF THE SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL JUST CAUSE ALTOGETHER RIGHT OF FIRST RETURN AFTER SUBSTANTIAL REMODELS UNIVERSAL JUST CAUSE ACCUMULATION OF TWO TO THREE MONTHS OF FAIR MARKET RENT DEBT BEFORE ALLOWABLE EVICTION AND RAISING THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AMOUNTS.

PROPERTY OWNER CONCERNS INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO SUBSTANTIALLY REMODEL UNITS WHEN NEEDED, ESPECIALLY WITH AGING BUILDINGS, KEEPING THE 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD FOR PROTECTIONS TO APPLY AND RA AND THAT RAISING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AMOUNTS WOULD INCREASE SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL COSTS.

DURING THIS PROCESS, STAFF HAS LOOKED AT SEVERAL CITY'S TENANT PROTECTION POLICIES TO UNDERSTAND THE TENANT PROTECTION LANDSCAPE AND INFORM OUR POLICY DISCUSSIONS AND SOME FINDINGS FROM THE COMPARABLE CITIES RESEARCH INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING,

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RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROVISIONS VARY WIDELY ACROSS CITIES.

AMOUNTS RANGE FROM THE EQUIVALENT OF TWO MONTHS RENT TO TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL PROVISIONS ALSO VARY ACROSS CITIES.

EXAMPLES OF PROVISIONS INCLUDE PROVIDING RELOCATIONS ASSISTANCE TO EACH TENANT, PROVIDING A RIGHT OF FIRST RETURN, ALLOWING ONLY TEMPORARY EVICTION, AND HAVING A 45 DAY THRESHOLD FOR TENANCY TERMINATION.

SEVEN OF THE NINE CITIES LISTED DO NOT HAVE A WAITING PERIOD FOR TENANT PROTECTIONS TO APPLY.

AND LASTLY, EIGHT OF THE NINE CITIES LISTED HAVE SOME KIND OF REGULATORY ENTITY SUCH AS A RENT STABILIZATION BOARD OR RENTAL HOUSING DIVISION.

STAFF IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF EXPLORING MANY POLICY OPTIONS BASED ON COMMITTEE FEEDBACK AND COMPARABLE CITIES RESEARCH, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONTINUING TO ALLOW SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL EVICTIONS TO ADDRESS AN AGING HOUSING STOCK AND INSURANCE REQUIRED REPAIRS.

ADJUSTING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FOR ALL, NO FAULT, JUST CAUSES IN A NEW AMOUNT.

KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION AND COMPARABLE CITIES MAKING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE UNIFORM ACROSS ALL.

NO FAULT JUST CAUSES CONSIDERING THE WAITING PERIOD FOR JUST CAUSE PROTECTIONS TO APPLY DUE TO THE IMPACT ON RECENT TENANTS WHO SIGN A LEASE ONLY TO SHORTLY THEREAFTER BE REMOVED, ADJUSTING PENALTIES TO COMPLY WITH CHANGES IN LAW AND CREATE PENALTIES FOR FAILING TO PROVIDE THE CITY NOTICE OF SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL EVICTIONS FURTHER DEVELOPING AND NARROWING THE DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL AND CONSIDERING A RIGHT OF FIRST RETURN FOR TENANTS DISPLACED DUE TO SUBSTANTIAL REMODELS WITH AN ALLOWABLE ONE-TIME RENT INCREASE IN ADDITION TO ANNUAL INCREASE PERMITTED UNDER AB 1482.

FOR NEXT STEPS, STAFF WILL WORK WITH BUILDING AND SAFETY TO REFINE THE DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL.

STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL DISCUSSIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF WILL RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS SOMETIME IN 2025.

2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE, TODAY'S PRESENTATION, AS THEY STATED, IS A STATUS UPDATE.

SO IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED.

NONE OF NOTHING HAPPENS WITH A VOTE TONIGHT OTHER THAN A RECEIVE AND FILE IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY OF THESE, UM, SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE BEING, UH, DISCUSSED WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, BECAUSE OF OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS, I'M GONNA ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF IT'S OKAY IF WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST SO THAT FOLKS WHO HAVE COME OUT, UM, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND JUST SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY FOLKS ARE SPEAKING.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT 12, SO LET'S DO 90 SECONDS PER PERSON.

THERE ISN'T A FORMAL SIGNUP LIST, SO IF YOU COULD LINE UP AT THE PODIUM IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT BEHIND THE RAIL AFTER THAT.

THANKS SO MUCH.

READY? HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, FRED SUTTON WITH THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.

WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE THE JUST CAUSE UPDATES.

UH, I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THE 12 YEAR VESTING PERIOD BEFORE LEASING CONTROLS, UH, APPLY.

THIS IS A DELIBERATE ASPECT OF THE TENANT PROTECTION ACT THAT'S STATEWIDE.

IT'S REALLY MEANT FOR A HOUSING PROVIDER TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO QUICKLY REMEDY NUISANCE OR CRIMINAL ISSUES THAT TAKE PLACE ON A PROPERTY, UM, ADVOCATE.

OTHER SIDE ADVOCATES WILL SAY, WELL, THAT'S A JUST CAUSE UH, FOR EVICTION, BUT IN PRACTICALITY, THAT'S JUST NOT HOW IT WORKS.

THIS CAN GET DRAGGED ON FOR MONTHS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

UM, IF YOU WRITE DOWN, UH, UM, PERSON IN UNIT FOUR A IS, UM, DEALING DRUGS, YOU HAVE TO CALL IT IN THIRD PARTY WITNESSES AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE EASILY REMEDIED THROUGH NOT RENEWING A A A LEASE, UH, BECOME SUBSTANTIALLY HARDER.

WE APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT MEETING WITH US RECENTLY ON THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE DEVELOPED PRIOR TO STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.

IT FEELS LIKE THIS WAS, UH, SOMEWHAT PREDETERMINED WITHOUT HAVING THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS PRIOR TO INFORM THE DECISION MAKING THAT COMES, UH, UH, UH, FROM ISSUES THAT THE CITY IS HAVING.

UH, I'M ALSO NOT QUITE SURE WHERE THIS ACTION CAME FROM.

WE FOLLOW CITY COUNCIL QUITE CLOSELY, BUT I I, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THIS WAS DIRECTED TO COME FORWARD.

WE WORKED ON THIS AS MENTIONED A FEW YEARS AGO.

UM, SO I I I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT.

UM, IF THIS IS GONNA CONTINUE AND COME BACK, WE, WE SEE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE MORE MEETINGS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO BE A PART OF THOSE, BUT WE HOPE THAT, UH, THIS DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD.

A 2022 STUDY BY THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE HIGHLIGHTS THAT ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS IS CRUCIAL IN DECREASING THE MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN AMONG PEOPLE LIVING IN RENTED RESIDENCES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE S MY NAME IS DEANNA KNOWLES.

I'M A RENTER IN DISTRICT NINE.

I ALSO SERVE AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR LONG BEACH.

FOR A JUST ECONOMY LIVING UNDER THE THREAT OF UNJUST EVICTIONS CAN SEVERELY IMPACT THE PERSON'S MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WELLBEING.

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IN ORDER TO KEEP LONG BEACH RESIDENTS HOUSED, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON PREVENTION, STRENGTHENING THE JUST CAUSE ORDINANCE WILL DO JUST THAT.

WE NEED THE FOLLOWING APPLY JUST CAUSE EVICTIONS PROTECTIONS IMMEDIATELY AT THE START OF THE LEASE, ELIMINATE SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL AND CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE.

FOR O OWNER MOVE IN.

EVICTIONS REQUIRE DIRECT PAYMENT FOR RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AS OPPOSED TO LANDLORDS PROVIDING A RENT CREDIT.

AND IN ADDITION, WE ARE CALLING FOR A STRONGER INCLUSIONARY HOUSING POLICY TO ENSURE RENTERS WHO MAKE UP OVER 60% OF THE POPULATION HAVE EQUITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MIKE MURCHISON.

UH, I REPRESENT ABOUT 300 RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS OR HOUSING PROVIDERS.

I GUESS SEVERAL QUESTIONS COME TO MIND.

I SAW THE NAME, I SAW THE NUMBER UP ON THE SCREEN OF 145 TENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN EVICTED DUE TO SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY, WHAT DOES 145 MEAN IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE? OF ALL THE TENANTS THAT WE HAVE IN LONG BEACH, TWO THIRDS OF THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY ARE TENANTS.

SO 145 TENANTS OUT OF TWO THIRDS OF THE POPULATION OF LONG BEACH SEEMS LIKE A VERY, VERY LOW NUMBER.

IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE VERY OLD HOUSING STOCK IN LONG BEACH, SPECIFICALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN.

YOU KNOW, ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, THE STAFF OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WAS WORKING ON SEISMIC RETROFIT ON A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM TO TRY TO UPGRADE THESE BUILDINGS.

EVENTUALLY THAT'S GOING TO BE A MANDATE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD THAT'S GONNA BE VERY COSTLY PER UNIT TO A LOT OF THE SENIORS THAT USE THE RENTAL INCOME AS AN INVESTMENT FOR THEIR RETIREMENT.

KEEP THAT IN MIND.

SO IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST SUBSTANTIAL REMODELS, NOT JUST JUST CAUSE EVICTION.

IT'S ALSO SEISMIC RETROFIT, WHICH IS A EVENTUALLY ANOTHER MANDATE COMING.

SUBSTANTIAL REMODELS, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HOUSING PROVIDERS TO KEEP THEIR PROPERTIES UP TO SPEED ON BEHALF OF THEIR TENANTS.

TAKING THAT TOOL AWAY WOULD SEVERELY IMPACT NUMBER ONE, WHAT YOU ALL WANNA SEE, WHICH IS BETTER HOUSING IN LONG BEACH.

SO I'M JUST CONCERNED OVERALL THAT WE NOT MOVE TOO QUICKLY AND THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DATA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS GRACIA REYES, DIRECTOR OF LANE'S LONG BEACH FOR JUST ECONOMY.

UM, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT A STRONGER JUST CAUSE ORDINANCE.

60% OF LONG BEACH RESIDENTS ARE RENTERS, MANY PHASING RISING RENTS, INCREASED EVICTIONS, GENTRIFICATION, AND STAGNANT WAGES.

LAST WEEK, UM, DURING OUR TENANT DAY OF ACTION, WE AMPLIFY THESE STORIES AND ALSO URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE TO ENSURE, UH, MORE COMPREHENSIVE PROTECTION FROM UNJUST EVICTIONS.

WE NEED UNIVERSAL JUST COSTS, UM, APPLYING EVICTION RIGHTS UNIVERSALLY REGARDLESS OF UNIT TYPE LANDLORD OR TENANT LEND.

WE NEED THE ELIMINATION OF SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL.

UM, WE NEED TO REQUIRE REASONABLE TRANSPORT FOR NON-PAYMENT EVICTIONS TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF EVICTION IN STABILIZED STRUGGLING HOUSEHOLDS.

WE NEED TO PROVIDE TENANTS, UM, PHASING UNAFFORDABLE RENT INCREASES THE OPTION FOR ECONOMIC DEPL DISPLACEMENT ASSISTANCE.

WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS AGAINST OWNER MOVING EVICTIONS, INCLUDING AND HAS RECORD KEEPING AND INCREASED OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS.

AND WE NEED TO REQUIRE DIRECT RELOCATION PAYMENTS TO TENANTS TO PREVENT INCREASED HOMELESSNESS AND ENSURE ASSISTANCE FOR ALL.

NO FAULT JUST CAUSES STRENGTHENING.

THE JUST CAUSE ORDINANCE WILL PROVIDE STABILITY BY REQUIRING VALID REASONS FOR EVICTIONS, ENHANCE COMMUNITY WELLBEING BY REDUCING THE FEAR OF DISPLACEMENT, EMPOWER TENANT TO ADVOCATE TENANTS TO ADVOCATE FOR THEIR RIGHTS AND PROMOTE FAIRNESS IN TENANT LANDLORD RELATIONSHIPS.

NOT A JUST COST EVICTION ISSUE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I AM ANDRE THE DIRECTORAL LIBRE LONG BEACH RESIDENTS IN POWER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT.

I HAD A WHOLE SPEECH RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HERE ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING TO THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE SUBSTANTIAL REMOTE AND WHY WE ARE ADVOCATING SO MUCH TO CLOSE THIS AS A, JUST CAUSE EVICTION RE IS IN THE STREETS ALL THE TIME, TALKING TO TENANTS ABOUT THEIR SITUATIONS.

WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO HOMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS, BUT THE TENANTS ARE AFRAID OF ACTUALLY SPEAKING UP OR EVEN TALKING TO CODE VIOLATION IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL LOOPHOLE.

THIS, UM, THIS LOOPHOLE ALLOWS LAND LANDLORDS TO COME AND EVICT TENANTS WHO ARE SOMEHOW PROTECTED FROM RENT INCREASES.

SO, SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL SHOULD BE, UH, AN ISSUE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT DEALS WITH,

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IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOUTH PASADENA ALREADY PASSED THIS LAST YEAR, LOS ANGELES, UH, CITY IS, OR IS LOOKING INTO THIS.

I THINK WE NEED TO LEVEL UP WITH THOSE, THOSE CITIES TO CONTINUE PREVENTING, UM, EVICTIONS.

AND ONE MORE THING, 147 ARE THE SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL EVICTIONS THAT WE ARE, UM, THAT THE CITY KNOWS ABOUT.

THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER EVICTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY THAT DON'T GET TO THE CITY THAT PEOPLE VIC OUT OF JUST A NOTICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW THE LAW.

YOUR TIME IS CONCLUDED.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, ELSA TUNG.

I AM A DISTRICT FIVE HOMEOWNER, AND ACTUALLY THAT'S WHERE I'M, UM, THE PERSPECTIVE I BRING TODAY.

WHEN I SAY I SUPPORT APPLYING UNIVERSAL JUST CAUSE, UH, RIGHTS REGARDLESS OF THE UNIT TYPE LANDLORD OR LENGTH OF TENANCY.

AGAIN, AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER IN DISTRICT FIVE, UM, IF I WERE TO RENT OUT MY HOME AND WE KNOW, UM, ACROSS THE CITY, MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS DO RENT OUT THEIR HOMES.

IF I WERE TO RENT OUT MY HOME AND SAY A NEW FAMILY COMES IN, FAMILY OF THREE, THEIR KID IS JUST STARTING AT A LONGFELLOW ELEMENTARY, UM, I, AS A SINGLE FAMILY MOM AND POP LANDLORD, I CAN KICK OUT THIS NEW FAMILY ANYTIME FOR NO REASON AT ALL, BECAUSE THIS NEW FAMILY LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE JUST CAUSE PROTECTIONS.

HOW IS THAT? OKAY.

HOW IS THAT FAIR? IT'S COMPLETELY ARBITRARY AND COMPLETELY UNFAIR.

AND AS A HOMEOWNER WHO COULD POSSIBLY RENT OUT, UM, I COMPLETELY OPPOSE THAT.

SO WE DO NEED UNIVERSAL JUST CAUSE REGARDLESS OF UNIT TYPE LANDLORD OR LENGTH OF TENANCY.

AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT STAFF'S REPORT SAYS THAT SEVEN OUT OF THEIR NINE JURISDICTIONS THAT THEY RESEARCHED DO NOT HAVE THIS 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD.

SO MOST OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN CALIFORNIA THAT STAFF HAS RESEARCHED DO NOT HAVE A WAITING PERIOD.

UH, FINALLY, I WILL SAY WE SHOULD ALIGN RELOCATION ASSISTANCE WITH LA COUNTY INCLUDED.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS LIZ RYAN MURRAY, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING PUBLIC ADVOCATES.

AND AS A MEMBER OF THE, UM, LONG BEACH HOUSING JUSTICE COALITION AND A LONG BEACH RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE PUBLIC ADVOCATES HAS BEEN WORKING WITH GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE.

UM, WE WERE LEGISLATIVE SPONSORS OF THE TENANT PROTECTION ACT 1482, AND THE FOLLOW-UP 5 6 7, WHICH CODIFIED A FLOOR FOR JUST CAUSE EVICTION PROTECTION STATE.

WHILE, WHILE THE LEGISLATURE CLEARLY STATED THAT LOCAL JURISDICTIONS LIKE LONG BEACH AND THE OTHERS THAT ARE BEING STUDIED CAN AND SHOULD GO BEYOND THAT TO MEET THEIR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

AS A RESULT, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE TO STRENGTHEN THEIR JUST COSTS.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE LONG BEACH ONCE AGAIN, SHOW LEADERSHIP HERE AND PROJECTING, PROTECTING THE MAJORITY OF ITS RESIDENTS.

I'M GONNA SKIP AHEAD 'CAUSE OF TIME.

UM, THIS, IN ORDER FOR JUST CAUSE TO BE TRULY EFFECTIVE TO MEET THE GOAL, IT REQUIRES A FEW KEY ASPECTS, INCLUDING BUT NOT EXCLUSIVE OF.

NO CARVE-OUTS OR LOOPHOLES OF PEOPLE HAVE SET.

ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF THE LENGTH OF THEIR TENANCY OR THE DEED RESTRICTION NATURE OF THEIR BUILDINGS, DESERVE THESE, THESE COVERAGES.

NO WORKAROUNDS WHILE CLOSING LOOPHOLES FOR REMODELS AND INCLUDING A STRONG RIGHT TO RETURN THE ORDINANCE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT CLOSING LOOPHOLES AND EVICTIONS CITING OWNER MOVE IN, WHICH CAN EASILY BE ABUSED IF NOT CLOSELY REGULATED.

SOFT LANDING.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, UH, THE RELO ASSISTANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE LEVEL OF OTHER CITIES BROUGHT UP TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND, UM, HITCHED TO INFLATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT.

OF DOING THAT FOR NO, NO REASON AT ALL.

HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, CITY STAFF.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WANNA THANK STAFF FOR MEETING WITH A LOT OF THE LEADERSHIP, UH, TEAM AND THE, UH, HOUSING PROVIDERS.

UM, AND I'LL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY.

WE WERE SORT OF LATE IN UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PROCESS WAS GOING ON.

THERE WERE THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I WOULD SAY THAT MANY OF OUR MEMBERS WANT BE A PART OF THE PROCESS AND FEEL A LITTLE LEFT OUT.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD ASK FOR MORE PUBLIC INPUT, MORE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WE WOULD ASK, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A DIRECTION TO STAFF.

SECONDARILY, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THESE ARE REALLY COMPLICATED ISSUES AND, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FROM A LONG BEACH PERSPECTIVE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN, IN LONG BEACH? WHAT'S HAPPENING IN REAL LIFE, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF CASE STUDIES? WHAT, WHAT PROBLEMS ARE WE SOLVING? WHAT ARE THE BEST SOLUTIONS FOR THE PROBLEMS? I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT HOUSING PROVIDERS DON'T GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF RENTING TO TENANTS ONLY TO, UH, TERMINATE THEIR LEASE IN THE FIRST 12 MONTHS.

IT'S A VERY COST, UH, CONSUMING.

THEY HAVE A VACANCY THEY NEED TO GET FILLED.

UM, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NO INTENTION

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IT TYPICALLY IS SOMETHING PRETTY SERIOUS THAT HAPPENS.

THEY HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLY ON AND GIVE A 60 DAY NOTICE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN, IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, SCENARIO.

UM, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, ALREADY WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT ARE FOUNDED IN LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? 147.

MY QUESTION IS, OF THOSE 147 THAT YOU DO KNOW OF, HOW MANY MEET THE DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL? UH, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I WANT TO WANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS TOO, BECAUSE IF IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, AND FINALLY THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH P RIPP INSPECTORS, YOU KNOW, THE TIME IS CONCLUDED.

MAYBE IF YOU GET A INSPECTION AND YOU'RE GOOD, YOU CAN GO FOCUS ON THE, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB.

HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, CITY OFFICIALS.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, THIS MEETING AND TAKING THIS TIME.

MY NAME IS FIA KNABE.

MY WIFE AND I ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL, UH, PROCESS.

AND FROM A HOMEOWNER'S PERSPECTIVE, WHO'S ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS DIRECTLY ADDRESSING, I AM IMPLORING THE CITY TO, UH, TO RETAIN THE 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY THAT IS THE CASE, AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE AS HOMEOWNERS IS WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO, TO KEEP THE HOUSING STOCK UP, TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TENANTS, TO DO THESE THINGS.

HOWEVER, ESPECIALLY MOM AND POP HOMEOWNERS, WE ARE UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE CITY TO KEEP THE HOUSING STOCK UP, WHICH WE WANT TO DO.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE THERE ARE THERE, THERE ARE TIMES THAT ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THAT CAN'T BE DONE WITH TENANTS SAFELY IN PLACE.

AND IF WE ARE ASKED TO ADHERE TO CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, BUT BUT AREN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET INTO THE UNIT AND DO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, THEN IT, IT BECOMES AN UNTENABLE SITUATION.

MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE LAWYERS AND, AND, UH, COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENTS, THEY CAN DO THIS.

BUT MOM POP HOMEOWNERS CANNOT DO THIS.

AND MY WIFE AND I ARE STRUGGLING UNDER THE, UNDER THE WEIGHT OF THESE BURDENS.

ADDITIONALLY, LONG BEACH HAS A POPULATION OF 451,000 RESIDENTS, UH, OUT OF A HUNDRED.

IF THEY'RE 150, UM, SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL EVICTIONS, 0.03% OF THE POPULATION IS AFFECTED BY SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGE THESE GRASSY CHANGES FOR.

OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES, UH, FOR, WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES AND, UH, UH, DECREASE THE, UH, HARASSMENT OF, UH, THE NEW OWNERS AGAINST THE TENANTS.

BUJO KARINA.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CARINA.

I'M HERE TODAY IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THE PURPOSE OF, UH, SOLICITING A FORMAL, UH, REQUEST FOR, UH, MORATORIUM IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUBSTANTIAL REMODELATION FOR WHICH WE ARE CONFRONTING.

I AM PART OF THE, UH, RESIDENCE FOR, UH, PARADE.

UH, AND AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AND MEMBER OF MY COMMUNITY, I FEEL THAT IT'S FUNDAMENTAL TO, UH, CONFRONT OR, UH, WORK TOWARDS THIS, UH, BUSINESS OR ISSUE AS, AS, AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

AND THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE INVOLVED TO REFLECT UPON THE, UH, POSITIVE IMPACTS THAT THIS, UH, MORATORIUM WOULD ALLOW.

I'M FIGHTING TO DEFEND MY HOME FOR WHICH I'VE BEEN LIVING IN FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS WITH MY PARTNER AND THREE KIDS.

IT IS EVIDENT THAT WE ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING OUR HOMES, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS MORATORIUM WOULD ALLOW SOME TIME FOR YOU TO WORK, UH, TOWARDS EVALUATING THE SITUATION IN A BETTER LIGHT LONG BEACH.

AND IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE ABOUT, UH, OUR PRIORITIES AND VISIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF LONG BEACH .

UH, EVEN MORE OR MORE SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE MORATORIUM WOULD BE A GOOD

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'CAUSE NOBODY DESERVES TO LIVE IN FRIGHT.

IT IS VITAL THAT A DECISION IS MADE, UH, TODAY, AND THAT THAT DECISION IMPACTS POSITIVELY TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THAT IT GUARANTEES, UH, FURTHER DEVELOPMENT TO A BETTER FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

STREET.

GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MELISSA AND I'M A TENANT AT THE, UH, PARADE STREET APARTMENT COMPLEX.

UM, I AM A SINGLE MOM AND I LIVE WITH MY KIDS.

WE'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR THE LAST, LAST 24 YEARS, AND THEREFORE, I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC, AND THAT IS THE URGENT MORATORIUM.

AND THIS IS DUE TO A, UH, JUST, UH, EVICTION DUE TO SUBSTANTIAL REMODELATION IN LONG BEACH.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, COUNCIL, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, CAN MAKE, CAN DO MUCH MORE TO ESTABLISH, UH, RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR, UH, TENANTS THAT SIMPLY, UH, NEED TO REFLECT UPON THE, THE STATUS, UH, OF THEIR, OF THEIR POSITION.

AND THAT IS, UH, INDISPENSABLE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF, OF ALL TENANTS WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE ELIMINATION OF, UH, TOTAL, UH, ATION SUBSTANTIAL.

AND THAT IS, UH, THE RIGHT FOR, UH, THE DIFFERENT EVICTIONS THAT HAPPENED TO, UH, ALL THE TENANTS IN LONG BEACH.

WE ARE AWARE THAT THE CITY NEEDS TIME TO CHANGE ITS POLICIES, TO ADJUST COSTS, BUT DURING THIS TIME, TENANTS ARE BEING, UH, DISLOCATED, UH, MASSIVELY.

WE NEED A, UH, MORATORIUM, UH, EMERGENCY ACT NOW, UH, IN ORDER FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY IN, REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES, UH, IN, IN THE CITY THAT THEY LOVE, UH, AND TO CREATE MORE CIVIL PROTECTIONS THAT ARE STRONGER FOR TENANTS.

AND LASTLY, UH, EVICTIONS DO NOT RESOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR THE CONTRARY.

IT, IT AGGRAVATES, UH, THE PROBLEM IN SEPARATING FAMILIES AND INCREASING THE RISK OF THAT OUR KIDS AND, UH, YOUNG, UH, YOUNG ADULTS ARE EXPOSED TO, UH, BEING, TO HOMELESSNESS.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

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HELLO.

I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT ONE.

I DON'T HAVE, UH, MUCH TO ADD THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SAID.

WHAT I DO WANT TO ADD IS THAT, UH, THERE IS A GREASY PERSON OR TWO THAT EN SUITS HERE THAT ARE NOT EVEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF LONG BEACH.

WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION'S VP OF LOCAL PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND THEIR OWN WEBSITE.

HIS ROLE IS STATED TO OVERSEE THE ASSOCIATION'S LOCAL, PUBLIC AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIR EFFORTS THROUGHOUT LA COUNTY.

HE ALSO MANAGES PUBLIC AFFAIRS IN VENTURA AND SANTA BARBARA COUNTY.

HE IS WHO THIS ASSOCIATION SENDS DOWN HERE TO RUB ELBOWS AND PR THEIR WAY DOWN, PR THEIR WAY INTO TAMPERING DOWN ANY EFFORTS TO MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE HERE, THE

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IT'S NO WONDER THAT RENTER PROTECTIONS FACE CERTAIN PREMATURE DEATHS IN THE STATE CAPITOL AND CITY HALLS EVERY YEAR.

THE CAA WILL SHOW UP ANYWHERE IN CALIFORNIA TO SQUASH, ABUTTING RENT CONTROL MOVEMENT, INCLUDING COMMITTEES AND CITY COUNCILS, INCLUDING LONG BEACH.

STOP LETTING SLUMLORDS CONTROL US PASS THE MORATORIUM.

NEXT SPEAKER.

HI, MY NAME IS JUDITH, AND FOR THE RECORD, I FIND WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID VERY OFFENSIVE BECAUSE AS AN IMMIGRANT, UM, DAUGHTER TO PARENTS WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS, I WORKED MY BUTT OFF TO BECOME A MOM AND POP'S LANDLORD.

OKAY? I DO NOT LEAN RIGHT? I DO NOT LEAN LEFT.

I LEANED CENTER, WHICH SHOULD BE MAKING CO IT'S COMMON SENSE NOWADAYS.

OKAY? AND SO I ALSO WORK AS A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR OUR PROPERTIES THAT MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE SACRIFICED AND WORK TREMENDOUSLY.

WE LIVE IN MR. AUSTIN'S DISTRICT IN NORTH LONG BEACH.

MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS IS, OKAY, SO YOU WANNA IMPLEMENT ALL THESE CHANGES.

WHO IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PAPERWORK? BECAUSE JUST YESTERDAY I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WHERE I CALLED TO GET INFORMATION TO ATTEND HERE.

AND WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED? I SPOKE TO SOMEONE WHO MET GRISELDA, WHO MENTIONED, OH, YOU KNOW, UM, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE WEBSITE.

SO ALREADY SHE'S TELLING ME SHE'S NOT COMPETENT IN ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.

AND YES, PLEASE WRITE HER NAME.

AND SO THEN I CALLED AND I SPOKE TO MARY, AND MARY ALSO SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M WORKING REMOTELY, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS INFORMATION.

SO NO, I DON'T WANT, PLEASE STOP VIC VICTIMIZING TENANTS.

DON'T ADD MORE TO THAT.

THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK.

GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY AND DON'T TAKE AWAY MY PROPERTY FREEDOM RIGHTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, COUNCILMAN AUSTIN, YOU HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS BEFORE YOU HEAD OUT AND WE'LL CLOSE UP REALLY QUICKLY.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND SHARING YOUR, YOUR TRUTH, YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOUR PERSPECTIVES ON THIS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WRESTLING WITH AS A CITY COUNCIL, AND I THINK EVERY PUBLIC AGENCY, UM, IN, I MEAN, AT LEAST EVERY CITY, UH, IN THE STATE, UM, PARTICULARLY LARGE CITIES, WE'VE BEEN WRESTLING WITH HOUSING CHALLENGES.

I, I, I WANTED TO, TO, TO ASK STAFF JUST TO BRIEFLY WALK US, BRIEFLY WALK US THROUGH, UM, UM, HOW WE GOT TO TODAY BECAUSE, UH, IT SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION, UM, OUT THERE ON THAT.

SURE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN AUSTIN.

SO, UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S A WHOLE HISTORY TO JUST CAUSE IN THIS CITY THAT DATES BACK TO 2019 AND WE HAD A CITY ORDINANCE AND THEN THERE WERE CHANGES IN STATE LAW AND WE MADE CONFORMING CHANGES.

UM, AND THEN THE STATE LAW CHANGED AGAIN, WHICH REQUIRED US TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, WHICH WE DID ON MAY 14TH AND 21ST OF THIS YEAR.

UH, ON THAT DISCUSSION ON MAY 14TH, UM, THERE WAS DIRECTION, UM, FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS IN DEHA AND THE WHOLE COUNCIL TO TAKE THAT ACTION FORWARD, TO COMPLY WITH CHANGES IN STATE LAW, BUT TO ALSO STUDY AND COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE.

ADDITIONAL LOCAL LEVEL CHANGES TO THE JUST CAUSE EVICTION, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DID, WHICH BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

UH, THANK YOU VICE CHAIR AUSTIN.

HE IS GONNA SNEAK OUT.

WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, MEETING THAT WE NEED TO GET TO, UH, COUNCILMAN RICKS OTI.

ANY QUICK QUESTIONS? UH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY QUESTION.

I JUST WANTED TO, I, IT, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AROUND OUTREACH, AND MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

I THINK SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE WERE SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T FELT INCLUDED, BUT I ALSO SAW IN THE PRESENTATION, IT SOUNDED LIKE SOME OF THE, THE COMMENTS THEY BROUGHT UP WERE ALSO IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY LIKE WHAT THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WAS? UM, SURE.

SO WE HAD, UH, FOUR HOUSING POLICY FORUMS INCLUDING, UH, INVITES TO THE HOUSING PROVIDER INDUSTRY AND ALIGNED GROUPS LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

WE THEN, UM, WERE REACHED OUT TO DIRECTLY FROM, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE CHAMBER WHO SAID THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THOSE AND WE FACILITATED AN ADDITIONAL MEETING.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS THERE WERE SOME FOLKS, UM, THAT WAS A LEADERSHIP MEETING, SO NOT EVERYONE COULD ATTEND.

SO WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND ANTICIPATE WE'LL BE DOING MORE OUTREACH AND, AND ALWAYS GLAD TO, UM, MEET WITH FOLKS AND, AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

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AND THEN THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION AS WELL AS, UM, I KNOW AS WE HEAD INTO THIS TIME OF YEAR, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS GETS SMALLER.

UM, SO, AND THIS IS AN ITEM TO POTENTIALLY, UM, BE SEEN SOMETIME, I THINK, ACCORDING TO THE NOTES IN 2025.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WE COULD LOOK FOR, UM, IN TERMS OF SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, AND SOME ADDITIONAL MEETINGS? MAYBE NOT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT EARLY NEXT YEAR AS THE CALENDAR FREES UP A BIT? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE GLAD TO DO THE INDIVIDUAL FROM THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE LETTER YOU RECEIVED FROM THE REALTORS.

I MEAN, WE'RE GLAD TO DO A MEETING WITH THEM SOON DURING BUSINESS HOURS ONLINE, BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE BUDGET OR PLANS TO DO ANOTHER BIG PUBLIC MEETING 'CAUSE WE DID FOUR OF THOSE AND THAT WAS IMPORTANT, BUT COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE.

SO I THINK THAT'S OUR NEXT STEPS.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AS A TEAM AND, AND SORT OF LOOK AT, UM, WE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT IS MORE OF THAT INDUSTRY OUTREACH AND MAYBE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE, UM, PUBLIC TOWN HALL TYPE MEETINGS.

BUT I, I GOTTA GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT WITH THE TEAM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT ON THE SPOT, BUT I'M, I'M GLAD TO MEET WITH MR. SUTTON AND THE, THE REALTORS.

UM, WHICH WAS THE LETTER YOU HAD, UM, THIS IS NOT COMING TO COUNCIL ANYTIME SOON.

WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF, OF WHERE WE ARE.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO, TO GET IT CORRECT.

AND I THINK WE COULD ALWAYS OPEN UP THIS MEETING FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK THROUGH, UM, ANY SET OF REVISIONS THAT COME FORWARD OR ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, STAKEHOLDER INPUT, UM, THAT WE GET.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'D BE DURING BUSINESS HOURS, DISCRETION AS THE CHAIR.

UM, AND, AND WE'D BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR TODAY AND WE'RE GONNA CLOSE IT OUT AND THEN, UH, WE WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER, UH, ITEM THE NEXT, THE I THE LAST ITEM FOR ANOTHER MEETING, IF THAT WORKS.

AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU CHAIR, JUST WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON INCLUSIONARY, WHICH IS FURTHER ALONG AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THEN WE'D BE GLAD TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, UM, AT WHATEVER TIME WORKS, UH, ON THE SCHEDULE.

AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, UM, ALERT THE PUBLIC TO THAT HEARING, UH, OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GIVE, UM, MORE PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT AT THAT TIME AS WELL.

SO CAN WE CALL THE VOTE ON THIS ONE PLEASE, RICK? SO THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

UM, AND UM, DO WE NEED TO MAKE, CAN WE MAKE A MOTION OR DO WE HAVE TO READ THE ITEM FIRST TO, UM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND LET ME GO AHEAD AND, AND READ THE ITEM AND THEN I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA LAY IT OVER.

LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND LAY THIS ITEM OVER, CORRECT? YES, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE TO LAY IT OVER.

SO THE ITEM ON THE FLOOR IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A STAFF REPORT ON PROPOSED UPDATES AND EXPANSION OF THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING POLICY.

AND YOU'D

[2. 24-55279 Recommendation to receive and file a staff report on proposed updates and expansion of the City's inclusionary housing policy. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

CAN I JUST GET A FIRST AND SECOND ON THAT? OKAY.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION THAT WAS PUT FORTH TO LAY THIS ITEM OVER, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE COULD PROCEED WITH THE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UM, AND WE HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

MM-HMM.

, IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A GENERAL, ON THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW.

NO, NO PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR.

SEEING NONE, UH, WE WILL DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Housing and Public Health Committee on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]

YOU EVERYBODY.