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CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, I BELIEVE THE FORM, BUT, UH, I THINK FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO, UM, DO A ROLL CALL.
SO, UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST, MY WAY, UM, ON THE LIST HERE ON THE MINUTES, UM, STARTING WITH, UH, RANDY ELEY.
UM, SO YES, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S A QUORUM, CORRECT? YES.
SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO ALSO JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
I KNOW IT'S REALLY BUSY IN THE HOLIDAYS, UH, TO MAKE TIME.
UM, BUT REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING PRESENT HERE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE ABLE TO PLACE SCHOOL GUARDS WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED AND, UM, PROVIDE THAT EXTRA MEASURE SAFETY FOR THOSE MOST VULNERABLE, UH, IN OUR CITY.
UM, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS COMMITTEE HELPING US TO MEET QUORUM, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE ANALYSIS THAT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING AS PER, UH, THE, UM, GUIDELINES FOR THIS COMMITTEE LAID OUT MUNICIPAL CODE.
UM, WE CAN CONTINUE TO EVALUATE, APPROVE LOCATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL CROSSINGS.
SO, UM, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING.
SO, UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN HANDED OUT.
THOSE ARE THE, THE BLACK AND WHITE COPY THERE.
UH, YEAH, IF YOU NEED A MINUTE TO, UM, LOOK THROUGH IT MORE THOROUGHLY, UM, THAT'S FINE.
UM, WE MISS, I'LL RETURN A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
CAN WE APPROVE THE MOTION? SECOND? YES.
OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE, A SUMMARY, UH, ADULT CROSSING GUARD.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON THE, UH, NEXT ITEM, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE TO ROOM? OH, YES.
OR CAN WE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I KNOW IT'S NOT PUBLIC, BUT WE SHOULD STILL CALL FOR YEAH.
SO IF YOU RECEIVED ANY EMAILS FOR A SPECIFIC ITEMS, YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU CAN REFER TO THEM AT THE END OF THE MEETING WHEN WE LEAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANY FOR ITEM ONE LINE UP AS ANY PUBLIC.
UM, SO NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER.
THEN, UH, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY, SO WE'LL DO THE, THE ROLL CALL AGAIN.
SO YEAH, LEMME CROSS OFF FOLKS WHO WEREN'T HERE.
WE'LL START, UM, WITH BRANDY HERE.
SECOND AGENDA ITEMS. UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVING FILE SUMMARY OF THE ADULT CROSSING GUARD LOCATION ANALYSIS.
SO, UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, WE HAD COMMITTED TO, UH, CONDUCTING BASICALLY AN AUDIT OF ALL OF THE LOCATIONS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED IN THE PAST, UH, FOR SCHOOL GUARDS.
UM, AND THEN MEASURE THAT AGAINST, UH, THE DEFINITION OF WHAT CONSTITUTE A HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION IN MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, THAT ESTABLISHED THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, AND SO GIVING, UM, THAT PRESENTATION, UH, WILL BE, UH, STAFF FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION.
SO, UH, MR. RYAN KELLY, SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, UH, LEAD.
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OH, YES, THIS IS FOR THAT.I THINK IT'S, YEAH, THAT CONTROLS THAT AS WELL.
JUST IT TURNS IT ON THE SCREEN.
OH, SO THE SCREEN JUST OFF? YEAH.
SO WHILE RYAN'S PULLING THIS UP, JUST TO, UM, GIVE AN EXPLANATION FOR ANY FOLKS WHO WEREN'T HERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, THIS COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED BY VOTER INITIATIVE A NUMBER OF DECADES AGO.
UM, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SOME MORE, UM, UH, EQUITY AND TRANSPARENCY, UH, AROUND HOW THE CITY WAS ALLOCATING ITS SCHOOL GUARDS, UH, IT ESTABLISHED, UH, REALLY A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO DETERMINING AREAS THAT WERE, UM, TO THE, UH, CALLED HAZARDOUS, UH, SO THAT WE COULD POST SCHOOL GUARDS IN THE PLACES, UH, THAT HAD THE MOST NEED.
UH, AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THRESHOLDS LAID OUT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, THAT WE NEED TO MEASURE AND CONFIRM IN ORDER TO HAVE LOCATIONS APPROVED, UH, TO HAVE A SCHOOL GUARD POSTED THERE.
UH, AND SO, UH, RYAN AND THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SAY ACROSS THE SCHOOL TEAM, UH, WENT AHEAD AND, UM, BASICALLY WENT THROUGH ALL THE HISTORICAL LOCATIONS, UM, IN AN AUDIT TO CONFIRM THAT THE CONDITIONS STILL EXIST, UH, AT ALL OF THESE LOCATIONS BECAUSE THIS, UH, THIS SECTION OF THE CODE HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS AGAIN FOR A NUMBER OF DECADES.
UM, AND SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS LAID OUT IN THE CODE, UH, ARE IN GEOMETRIC REQUIREMENTS.
SO A NUMBER OF LANES OR, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN STOP CONTROL, ET CETERA.
AND OVER THE DECADES, SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED, UM, EITHER THROUGH, UH, YEAH.
CHANGES, UH, FOR A SAFETY PROJECT OR FOR OTHER CAPACITY PROJECTS.
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOING BACK AND CONFIRMING THAT, UM, LOCATIONS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST WERE STILL VALID.
SO, UH, RYAN'S GONNA WALK US THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WAS TAKEN THERE.
AGAIN, RYAN KELLY, SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
I, I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PHONES.
THEY GOT KIND OF FUNKY, BUT, UH, SO, UH, FROM THE LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION DESIGNATIONS FOR SOMETHING TO BE A SCHOOL CROSSING, IT MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF 20 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN CROSSING, UH, GOING TO OR FROM THE SCHOOL.
UH, SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, DOESN'T INCLUDE ADULTS AND SPECIFICALLY, UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS.
WHEN YOU SAY ELEMENTARY, DO YOU MEAN JUST K THROUGH FIFTH OR K THROUGH EIGHTH THROUGH FIFTH, YEAH.
YEAH, SPECIFICALLY ELEMENTARY.
UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF HAZARDOUS INTERSECTIONS, UH, THOSE ARE USUALLY COMPLICATED OR WITH WHEN THEY, ANY OF THESE EXIST.
SO, FOR UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS? FOR UNCONTROLLED CROSSINGS, UH, SO AN UNCONTROLLED CROSSING IS LIKE WHERE A MAJOR STREET AND A MINOR STREET INTERSECT, AND THE MAJOR STREET MOVES FREELY AND THE MINOR STREET HAS LIKE A, A STOP SIGN.
SO THE UNCONTROLLED APPROACHES ARE THE ONES ON THE MAJOR STREET 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT STOPPING, UH, FOR THEM, UH, FOR LOCATIONS LIKE THAT, THERE HAS HAS TO BE, UH, VEHICULAR VOLUMES, UH, GREATER THAN 250 VEHICLES PER HOUR.
AND THAT, UH, THAT NUMBER GOES UP AS OPPOSED TO THE SPEED LIMIT GOES UP FOR STOP SIGN CONTROLLED CROSSINGS.
AND THOSE ARE CROSSINGS WHERE EVERY APPROACH TO THE INTERSECTION HAS A STOP SIGN, UH, IN ORDER TO BE HAZARDOUS.
THAT'S ONLY IF THE, UH, IF THE CROSSING IS
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ON AN UNDIVIDED ROADWAY, UH, WITH FOUR OR MORE LANES.SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, CROSS AS YOU'RE GOING ACROSS THE CROSSWALK WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF A MEDIAN, WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF A MEDIAN.
UH, AND, UH, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER HOUR THAT CROSS THAT CROSSWALK HAS TO BE 500 VEHICLES OR GREATER.
AND THEN FOR SIGNAL CONTROL CROSSINGS, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE, THE 20 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN THAT, THAT, THAT APPLIES TO ALL OF THESE, BUT IN TERMS OF, UH, DEFINING IT AS HAZARDOUS, UH, THERE HAS TO BE GREATER THAN 10 CONFLICTING TURNING VEHICLES THROUGH THE CROSSWALK FOR EACH MINUTE.
AND THAT'S OVER THE COURSE OF AT LEAST A 15 MINUTE PERIOD.
SO OVER THE 15 MINUTES, WE'RE, LOOK, WE'RE, YOU'D HAVE TO SEE 150 VEHICLES THAT WOULD CONFLICT, YOU KNOW, EITHER, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH OR TURN ACROSS THE CROSSWALK WHERE THOSE, UH, STUDENTS ARE CROSSING.
IS THIS, WHEN YOU'RE MONITORING THIS SIGNAL WITH THE 10 CONFLICTING VEHICLES, IS, IS THIS JUST DURING THE SCHOOL HOUR OR IS THIS DURING THE ENTIRE COURSE OF THE DAY? UM, IT'S ONLY WHEN STUDENTS ARE CROSSING.
SO WE LOOK AT EITHER A STUDENT DROP OFF IN THE MORNING OR STUDENT PICK UP IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND BECAUSE, UH, THE STUDENT DROP OFF IN THE MORNING TENDS TO COINCIDE WITH THE COMMUTE PEAK PERIOD WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK, THE TRAFFIC LINES TEND TO BE HIGHER THERE THAN IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN SCHOOL'S LET OUT BEFORE PEOPLE GET OUTTA WORK.
IN TERMS OF OUR, SO WE DID AN ANALYSIS LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS, UH, ALL LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR CROSSING GUARD IN THE PAST, AND THEN A FEW PROPOSED LOCATIONS AS WELL.
UM, FIRST UP ARE THE UNCONTROLLED LOCATIONS, AND YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE TABLES THAT GO WITH IT.
SO WE LOOKED AT 18 INTERSECTIONS, 17 OF THEM ARE EXISTING, AND THOSE INCLUDE BOTH STAFF AND UNSTAFFED LOCATION.
I THINK THE FINAL COLUMN LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S, UH, CURRENT CROSSING GUARD OR IF IT'S VACANT.
UH, AND THERE WAS ONE PROPOSED LOCATION THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, THE 18 LOCATIONS, NINE INTERSECTIONS MET THE QUANTITATIVE MUNICIPAL CODE WARRANTS DEFINING THEM AS HAZARDOUS INTERSECTIONS.
AND ALL NINE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS CURRENTLY HAVE AN ADULT CROSSING GUARD.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT MET THE, UH, QUANTITATIVE WARRANTS, UH, THERE ARE FIVE INTERSECTIONS THAT DON'T MEET 'EM, UH, THAT, THAT CURRENTLY DO HAVE FOR AN ADULT CROSSING YARD, WHICH LEAVES ANOTHER FOUR LOCATIONS THAT DIDN'T NEED QUANTITATIVE WARRANTS, THAT DON'T HAVE CROSSING YARD.
UH, AND THEN THE NEXT CHART, OR THE NEXT TABLE, UH, IF THE STOP SIGN CONTROL LOCATIONS, THERE WERE 11 INTERSECTIONS ANALYZED THERE.
NINE OF THOSE ARE EXISTING LOCATIONS AND TWO ARE PROPOSED LOCATIONS.
NONE OF THE 11 MET THE WARRANTS FOR HAZARDOUS IN AN INTERSECTION FOR, UH, ALWAYS STOP CONTROL.
AND THAT WAS LARGELY DUE TO THAT REQUIREMENT FOR HAVING TO HAVE FOUR LANES THAT YOU'RE CROSSING.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A SINGLE INTERSECTION, UH, ON THE LIST THAT ACTUALLY HAD FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, THAT WEREN'T DIVIDED BY A MEDIAN THAT, THAT STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO CROSS TO GET TO OR FROM SCHOOL.
SO NONE OF THEM WERE, UH, MET WARRANTS.
HOWEVER, UH, SIX DO HAVE AN ADULT CROSSING CARD.
AND THEN BIGGEST LIST, WHICH TAKES UP THE, THE FINAL TWO PAGES OF THE, OF THE, OF THOSE TABLES ARE THE SIGNAL CONTROLLED LOCATIONS.
WE ANALYZED, UH, ALL 28 INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE LIST.
THERE WERE NO PROPOSED SIGNAL AS LOCATIONS.
FOUR OF THE 28 MET THE QUANTITATIVE WARRANTS FOR HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION.
UH, THREE OF THOSE FOUR CURRENTLY HAVE AN ADULT CROSSING GUARD, ONE DOES NOT, AND EIGHT INTERSECTIONS THAT DO NOT MEET THE WARRANTS CURRENTLY HAVE AN ADULT CROSSING GUARD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SUMMARY OF, OF WHAT WE FOUND WHEN LOOKING AT ALL OF THE, UH, ALL LOCATIONS.
I THINK IN TOTAL THERE WERE 57 LOCATIONS.
WE ANALYZED 54, THEY ON EXISTING LIST AND THREE PROPOSED LOCATIONS.
HOW LONG DO THEY STAY AT THE PROPOSAL? HMM? HOW LONG DO THEY STAY UNDER PROPOSAL? HOW LONG DO THE, DO THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS STAY PROPOSED? YES.
HOW LONG DO THEY STAY UNDER PROPOSAL? HOW, HOW, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO EITHER CROSS THE THRESHOLD YES.
BECOME AN ACTUAL LOCATION? YES.
I THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
SO IF IT TURNS OUT YOU DETERMINE IT SHOULD BE A LOCATION, THEN IT WILL BE A LOCATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SUMMARY?
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I GUESS CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT, I KNOW IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FOUR OR MORE LENGTHS.UM, BECAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE SPEEDING, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO AT A HIGHER RATE VERSUS A TWO LANE ROAD AND LIKE IT'S, I I JUST, YEAH, I, I GUESS I, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT CATEGORY 'CAUSE AND HOW LONG HAS THE FOUR OR MORE LANES BEEN A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE STOP SIGN CONTROLLED LOCATIONS? UM, YEAH.
CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
I THINK THE, THE FOUR OR MORE LANES HAS MORE TO DO, LESS TO DO WITH THE SPEEDS ON THE ROAD AND MORE TO DO WITH THE CROSSING DISTANCE.
SO, UM, PEDESTRIANS WILL HAVE TO CROSS TWICE THE DISTANCE IF THERE ARE FOUR LANES ON THE ROAD VERSUS TWO LANES ON THE ROAD.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXPOSED FOR, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT MOVING AT THE SAME TRAVEL SPEED, THEY'RE EXPOSED FOR TWICE THE LENGTH OF TIME.
SO, UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD EXPECT SLIGHTLY HIGHER TRAVEL SPEEDS AS WELL WITH FOUR LANES VERSUS TWO.
AND I THINK YOU COULD ALSO SPECULATE, THERE MAY BE SOME CONFLICTS IN TERMS OF VISIBILITY IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE LANES ON THE APPROACH, IF A CAR STOPPED, SOMEONE APPROACHING FROM THE, THE OTHER LANE MAY NOT SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE CROSSING, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, BUT THE ANSWER, I THINK THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS, WHEN WAS THAT ADDED? MM-HMM
THAT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, INITIATIVE, WAS THIS WAS ALL LAID OUT THAN THE PEOPLE OF LONG BEACH VOTED ON IT, I THINK BACK IN THE 1970S MM-HMM
UM, BACK WHEN WE HAD MORE STREETS WITH THAT TYPE OF DESIGN.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, RIGHT.
SO YEAH, PER, PER THE AGENDA, RIGHT.
WE'RE, UM, RECEIVING THIS PRESENTATION, UM, ACTUALLY THE, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO REALLY DISCUSS THIS MORE THOROUGHLY, UM, AND COME UP WITH WAYS THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO THIS.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CONTENT, HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
AND IF WE'RE READY TO START TALKING ABOUT NEXT STEPS, UH, ALSO HAPPY TO MOVE DOWN THE AGENDA, BUT, UM, I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ELSE I'LL, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO MY QUESTION IS, AND, AND IT'S MORE ON A, 'CAUSE I'M OUT THERE SOMETIMES AND I'M LOOKING AT VISUAL SITES, FOR INSTANCE, LAFAYETTE, THOSE STUDENTS CROSS ACROSS PACIFIC.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A SIGNAL CONTROL LIGHT, BUT OPPOSING TRAFFIC DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT CROSSING GUARD.
LIKE SAY FOR INSTANCE, IF SHE'S CROSSING THEM AND THE CROSS GUARDS ON OPPOSITE SIDE FROM SCHOOL BEING DISMISSED, SHE'S GONNA COME OUT SO FAR, IT'S NOT, SHE'S GONNA BE SEEN FOR THE TRAFFIC GOING NORTHBOUND, BUT, BUT THE TRAFFIC GOING SOUTHBOUND, THEY DON'T ALWAYS STOP AND THEY'LL ALWAYS SEE HER OR HIM WHO DETERMINES IF THERE'S ONE CROSSING GUARD OR IF THERE'S TWO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A BUDGET AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY, BUT WHO MAKES THAT DETERMINATION AS FAR AS LIKE MAJOR STREETS LIKE THAT? YEAH.
SO, UH, ONCE LOCATIONS ARE APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLACE STAFF THERE.
UH, AND THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THIS OFFICE.
SO, UH, PUBLIC WORKS PLACES THE GUARDS, UH, TINY OVER HERE IS OUR SUPERVISOR FOR THE GUARDS.
UH, BUT THE DETERMINATION AROUND, UM, STAFFING, UH, YEAH, IS WITHIN THAT GROUP.
UM, AND WE'RE LIMITED TO PLACING GUARDS ESSENTIALLY TO PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, UH, PER THE CODE.
UH, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT DOES ALSO GET INTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.
BUT MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PRESENTATION.
THAT'S FROM, UM, MICHELLE MARY? YEAH.
SECOND FROM BRANDY BROWN SHOCK.
AND THEN WE'LL DO ANOTHER VOTE, UM, JEFF AND I'LL RUN THROUGH EVERYBODY'S HERE.
UH, AND THEN ONTO, UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE.
SO HERE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION ON THE INTERIOR FOR SCHOOL GUARD LOCATIONS BASED ON THE CITY MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE PRIORITIZATION OF FACTORS REPLACING ADULT SCHOOL GUARDS AT CROSSINGS THAT MEET THE SPECI MEET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA OF LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 10 68 0 1 OH AND CROSSINGS THAT DO NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA OUTLINED IN LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE 10 68.
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UH, SO IF I CAN GIVE AN INTRODUCTION TO THIS.SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, IS A SESSION WITH ALL THE ATTENDEES HERE, UH, TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO STAFF.
THE, THE STAFFING RECOMMENDATIONS BEYOND, UM, APPROVING HAZARDOUS DESIGNATIONS, UH, TYPICALLY RESTS, UM, WITH THE SUPERVISORY STAFF TO THE SCHOOL GUARDS.
UM, BUT AS YOU CAN TELL, UM, FROM OUR AUDIT, RIGHT, UM, NOT VERY MANY LOCATIONS, UH, ACTUALLY MEET, UH, THAT HAZARDOUS DEFINITION.
SO RYAN HAS, UM, A BIT MORE INFORMATION, I THINK ON THE NEXT SLIDE TO CONVEY KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF THAT HAZARDOUS DESIGNATION, THE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE SCHOOL GUARDS AND THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE THUS FAR, UH, ANALYZED.
UM, YEAH, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON HOW TO ASSIGN THE ADULT CROSSING GUARDS AT THE SCHOOL CROSSINGS THAT DON'T MEET THE SPECIFIC HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION REQUIREMENTS LIKE LOCATION, BROADWAY, CROSS SECTION, AND HEAD OR
LOOKING AT THE CHART ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ANALYZED 57 LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE 31 AVAILABLE CROSSING GUARDS, BUT ONLY 13 LOCATIONS ACTUALLY MEET THE HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT DELTA BETWEEN 31 AND 13 OR 18 CROSSING GUARDS, THAT'S WHERE, UH, COMMITTEE SHOULD PROVIDE SOME INPUT ON HOW TO ASSIGN ADDITIONAL GRIP.
HOW TO PRIORITIZE THAT ASSIGNMENT.
AND FACTORS FOUR, DETERMINING THAT ASSIGNMENT ARE LISTED THERE AT THE BOTTOM.
THINGS LIKE VEHICLE SPEEDS, POTENTIALLY COLLISION HISTORY AT THE INTERSECTIONS, ESPECIALLY COLLISIONS INVOLVING PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS, UH, THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS CROSSING, UH, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHETHER IT'S SIGNALED STOP, UH, AND THEN ALSO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
SO FOR INSTANCE, LIKE ON THE, ON THE UN UNCONTROLLED LOCATIONS, IF THE MAJOR ROAD HAS A THOUSAND VEHICLES PER HOUR, 200 VEHICLES PER HOUR, THAT MIGHT FACTOR IN TO THE DECISION OF WHETHER OR NOT TO PLACE A PROSECUTOR.
WHEN YOU SAY VEHICULAR SPEEDS, ARE YOU TALKING POSTED OR ACTUAL? ACTUAL, OKAY.
ACTUAL, THAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION,
AND, YOU KNOW, STOP SIGNS ARE THERE SOMETIMES DOESN'T.
WELL, YEAH, I DEFINITELY NOTICED THAT WHILE I'M PERFORMING SOME OF THESE COUNTS.
UH, AND HERE'S FOR THAT SUPPLEMENTAL EVALUATION METHOD, STAFF HAS COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO START THE CONVERSATION, UM, FOR THE UNCONTROLLED LOCATIONS.
LOOKING AT, UH, THAT FIRST TABLE WE NOTED FOR LOCATIONS THAT DID HAVE A CURRENT CROSSING GUARD BUT DIDN'T MEET ALL THE CRITERIA, UH, MOST OF THEM DID MEET TWO OUT OF THREE.
SO, UM, WE WERE THINKING A POSSIBLE WAY OF PRIORITIZING LOCATIONS FOR LOCATION OF CROSSING GUARD WOULD BE, UH, THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE HIGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND MEET TWO OF THOSE THREE CRITERIA, THE CRITERIA BEING DISTANCED TO THE NEAREST CONTROLLED CROSSING.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU, UH, TECHNICALLY HAVE TO BE BEYOND 600 FEET FROM A CONTROLLED CROSSING TO, UH, TO MEET THAT THRESHOLD.
UH, THERE'S ALSO THE PEDESTRIAN VOLUME, WHICH IS 20, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS, OR THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC VOLUME, WHICH STARTS AT 250 AND GOES UP TO I THINK AROUND 300.
UH, VEHICLES PER HOUR FOR THE STOP SIGN CONTROL LOCATIONS, WHERE CURRENTLY NONE OF THE LISTED LOCATIONS MEET THE HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION CRITERIA.
UH, LOOKING AT, UH, WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE ADULT CROSSING GUARDS, UM, THEY TEND TO HAVE THE REQUIRED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN CROSSING 20 OR MORE.
UM, BUT SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PRIORITIZE LOCATIONS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN CROSSING, UH, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW MANY LANES THEY HAVE TO CROSS OR WHAT THE ACTUAL VOLUMES ARE, UH, OF VEHICLES CROSS, UH, YOU KNOW, TURNING ACROSS OR GOING THROUGH ACROSS THOSE, UH, CROSSWALKS.
AND THEN THE FINAL SIGNAL CONTROL LOCATIONS.
LOOKING AT THAT, UM, I RAN SOME QUICK NUMBERS.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE FOR THE SIGNALED LOCATIONS, WE'VE GOT THE MAXIMUM HOURLY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC LINES, THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST.
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CAN SEE FOR A LOT OF THE INTERSECTIONS, A LOT OF 'EM HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A MUCH HEAVIER VOLUME KOOL FIT THAT CROSSING, LIKE ONE LEG OR TWO LEGS.BUT LOOKING AT LIKE THE HIGHEST VOLUME LAG, THE LOCATIONS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE A CROSSING GUARD, THEY AVERAGED A PEAK PEDESTRIAN VOLUME AROUND 43 PEDESTRIAN, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS PER HOUR.
WHEREAS LOCATIONS WHERE THERE AREN'T CROSSING GUARDS, THEIR PEAK VOLUME OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS IS AROUND 18.
SO CLEARLY WE'RE, WE'RE LOCATING CROSSING GUARDS WHERE THERE ARE MORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS CROSSING.
SO A THRESHOLD OF SOMETHING AROUND 25 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE, CHILDREN'S PER HOUR, CHILDREN PER HOUR WOULD, UH, SEEMS LIKE A THRESHOLD, A STATE THRESHOLD BETWEEN THOSE NUMBERS WHERE YOU COULD SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE IF THERE ARE 25 OR MORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CREDIT, UH, CHILDREN CROSSING HERE, AND THEN, UH, DEPRIORITIZE LOCATIONS WITH FEWER.
BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT WE CAME UP WITH LOOKING AT THE DATA.
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND, UH, RANKING THE SCHOOLS WITH A HIGHER NUMBER OF PETS? HIGHEST? LIKE I'M LOOKING AT ROOSEVELT, I'VE GOT 81 KIDS ON THE, ON THE SOUTH LAKE.
SO THAT, BASED ON THAT, WOULD THAT BE NUMBER ONE? OR SOMETHING LIKE CHAVEZ WITH 68 AND 32 ON THE SOUTH AND WEST LEGS? THE, FOR ME, THOSE NUMBERS SAY THAT THEY, THEY, YEAH.
THAT THEY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM WAY ARTICULATING THIS CORRECTLY.
SO THEN THERE'S A DESIRE WITHIN THE, THE STAFF PROPOSAL TO THEN ALSO PRIORITIZE BASED ON THE NUMBER, IF WE DO HAVE A LIMITED CARD AVAILABLE RIGHT.
TO THEN HAVE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS KIND OF FILL THAT
SO WHAT IS THE, IS THERE A REASON WHY BIXBY IS VACANT AND THEY MET THE THRESHOLDS AND THE HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION? WHY DON'T THEY HAVE A CROSSING GUARD? YEAH, SO I THINK, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS REPRESENTS, UH, KIND OF A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF THIS SEMESTER? OH, OKAY.
UM, WHERE WE WENT AHEAD AND WE EVALUATED ALL OF THESE, UM, AND IT'S BEEN COMPILED IN TIME FOR THIS MEETING MM-HMM
UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING HERE, UM, TO GET FEEDBACK, UH, AND DIRECTION FROM THIS GROUP ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING, UM, THE PLACEMENT OF THE GUARDS MM-HMM
UH, AND SO, UH, YES, UH, IF THERE ARE LOCATIONS THAT WE, SOME OF THESE STAFF RECOMMENDED METRICS, UM, THEN WE WOULD MOVE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLACING GUARDS APPROPRIATELY.
UM, BUT I THINK THE REASON THAT WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY IS NOT ALL THESE LOCATIONS HAD DATA ON THE BOOKS.
UM, THEY HAD BEEN APPROVED AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST.
UH, WE HAD KEPT A LOG OF THE APPROVAL LOCATIONS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE VALIDATING THOSE APPROVALS.
UM, AND COMING UP WITH UP TO DATE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE PACKET, WHAT WERE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CARDS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE? SORRY, 13 ARE CURRENTLY OH NO, UM, 31 ARE CURRENTLY 31.
SO 31 ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN PLACE.
31 ARE CURRENTLY, AND YOU HAVE MORE MONEY TO PUT IN MORE OR NOT? WE ARE, I BELIEVE WE'RE BUDGETING FOR MORE.
UM, IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO COMPLETELY FILL ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS.
SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GUARDS DOES CHANGE.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE, AGAIN, A SNAPSHOT OF TIME, UM, OF WHAT WE HAVE JOB THEY CAN SEE PRETTY SOON, PRETTY SOON IN LONG BEACH TERMS MEANS LIKE TWO QUARTERS OF A YEAR.
AND THEN HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE, I BELIEVE IT WAS 22 ON TOP.
IT WILL, ONCE POSITIONS ARE FILLED, A TOTAL OF 53, ASSUMING WE CAN REACH A HUNDRED PERCENT, WHAT DOES THE POSITION PICK? YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE DRAFT,
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JUST MAKING SOME CHANGES UHHUH, SO NOW THE SALARY'S GONNA BE STARTING OFF AT 1815 IN.AND THAT'S WITH THE BENEFITS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PARTTIME? YES.
AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF HOW MANY HOURS? USUALLY IT'S LIKE FOUR TO MAYBE SIX HOURS A DAY.
BUT GENERALLY FOUR HOURS A DAY, SPLIT WORK SHIFT.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US TODAY? UM, SO WHAT WE WANT, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, YEAH, IF, UH, YEAH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
UM, LEMME SEE CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION OR A RECOMMENDATION FROM, UM, THE COMMITTEE HERE ON HOW THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING CROSSING LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT MEETING THE HAZARDOUS DEFINITION.
UM, SO WE, WE'VE TAKEN, UH, A STEP HERE TO, UM, HAVE STAFF GET A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR HOW WE SHOULD BE PLACING GUARDS BEYOND THE HAZARDOUS DEFINITION.
IF WE WANT TO AUGMENT THAT WITH, UM, YOUR POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING, UM, BASED ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE PEDESTRIANS WITHIN, UM, THESE CRITERIA, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, INCLUDE THAT.
WOULD THAT BE ON BASE? SO THE, TYPICALLY FOR A STUDY SESSION, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
WE'RE JUST HAVING KIND OF A DIALOGUE OR, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY TO BRAINSTORM OR, YOU KNOW, DO IDEAS OR, UH, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION IN THIS STUDY SESSION.
UM, IS JUST TO HAVE LIKE A DIALOGUE AND KIND OF GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEES AND THAT WAY STAFF CAN KIND OF TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.
IS THAT MORE LIKE IT OR THAT, SO THAT STILL DOES SERVE THE PURPOSE, RIGHT? WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON, ON THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ASSIGN THOSE GUARDS.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, AT A MINIMUM WE SHOULD BE COVERING THE, THE HAZARDOUS.
SO THEN DEFINITELY JUST HAVE THE, THE DISCUSSION AND THE FEEDBACK AMONGST, AND THEN THE STAFF WILL THEN TAKE IN EVERYTHING AND KIND OF WORK FROM THAT.
BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION IN THE STUDY SESSION.
SO YOU GET THE STAFF'S GATHERING INFORMATION.
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE JUST TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT THE, RIGHT.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN GET THE MOTION IN THE SECOND, JUST SO THAT WAY WHEN WE HAVE DISCUSSION, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE BOARD.
SO WE CAN DO THAT FIRST AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND KIND OF COLLABORATE.
UM, DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THAT OR CAN I SAY SOMETHING? NO, NO, YOU CAN JUST, YOU CAN JUST MOVE IT.
SO MOVE PAUL, YOU NEED A SECONDARY SECOND.
SO THE TWO THINGS WE'LL DO I EVEN NEED TO RUN DOWN, OH, SORRY.
RIA, WE CAN TAKE THE VOTE AFTER YOU GUYS HAVE SOME DISCUSSION OR YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY DONE.
THE, THE MOTION IS TO CONDUCT THE SESSION, I BELIEVE, DISCUSS IT SO YOU CAN DISCUSS IT NOW THAT WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND THEN WE CAN THEN THERE WE DO.
YEAH, SO GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR DIALOGUE.
THE TWO, AND I JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM, RIGHT? THERE'S NO PUBLIC, OKAY.
SO THE TWO THINGS THAT CONCERN ME MOST ARE THE NUMBER OF KIDS WE HAVE OUT THERE AND THERE'S, AND THE VEHICLE SPEEDS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE AT MOST RISKS, DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE CARS ARE GOING.
TURNING MOVEMENTS I THINK ARE A FACTOR AS WELL.
BUT I THINK THE TWO BIGGEST THINGS ARE SPEED AND THE NUMBER OF KIDS ARE EXPOSED.
SO THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO ME.
UH, A NUMBER OF KIDS IN SPEED.
WOULD THERE BE AN EXPECTATION? SO JUST TO FULLY FLESH OUT WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED, OKAY.
SO IS AN EXPECTATION THERE TO HAVE THAT BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S CONSIDERED IN TANDEM AS LIKE A WEIGHTED AVERAGE OR FIRST AND FOREMOST THE NUMBER OF KIDS AND IF THERE'S A TIE, THEN SPEED IS A TIEBREAKER.
I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION
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AGAIN.SO SPEED'S NOWHERE IN THERE, RIGHT.
DO I SEE IT? SO SPEED, UM, IN OUR ANALYSIS IS A FACTOR IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES GOING THROUGH ON HAND.
UM, BUT ALSO WE HAD INCLUDED THAT IN THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT'S A DATA SET THAT WE JUST HAVE ON HAND.
IT'S VERY EASY FOR US TO COLLECT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SCHOOL'S IN SESSION.
UM, WE, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION ALREADY.
SO IF THERE'S DIRECTION OR RECOMMENDATION HERE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF INFORMATION ABOUT.
SPEED, YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THAT STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR SOME TIME AND WE'RE COMING IN AND SEEING IT, MAKING RECOMMENDATION.
THE, THE THINGS, AS PAUL KNOWS, I'M A RETIRED TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, SO SPEED'S A BIG DEAL TO ME BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE KILL PEOPLE.
AND THE NUMBERS HERE ARE ABOUT 50 50 IN THE CITY OF FATALITIES BASED ON SPEED.
I'D LIKE US TO, I'D LIKE IT TO BE CONSIDERED AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, EITHER INCLUDE IT IN SOME WAY.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SEE IT BE, I I UNDERSTAND THAT DISTANCE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS KIDS ARE MORE EXPOSED AS THEY'RE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET YEAH.
'CAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE LONGER.
UM, AND WHILE I RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE IN A SCHOOL ZONE, EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOING 25, NOBODY'S GOING 25.
SO UNLESS THEY CAN'T GUESS PAST APPEARANCE IN FRONT OF THEM WHO'S UNLOADING THEIR KID AT THAT MOMENT, BUT ANYHOW.
WELL AND TO THAT POINT, RIGHT.
I WILL SAY THAT THE STREETS THAT TYPICALLY HAVE THE HIGHEST SPEED LIMIT ARE THE ONES THAT ALSO TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST REPRESENTATION.
IS THAT THE PACKET SIGNALS OR WAS IT A DIFFERENT YES.
OR DID WE HAVE MORE AT THE YEAH.
POINT TAKEN AND, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE WE MENTIONED, RIGHT? CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, WHAT 31 SCHOOL GUARDS.
UM, IF WE HAVE LESS OR MORE IN THE FUTURE, UM, SPEED CAN CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, A FACTOR.
UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON, UH, THE EXISTING AMOUNT OF SCHOOL GUARDS THAT WE HAVE ON HAND.
UM, AND THEN, UH, YEAH, THOSE KIND OF POINTS THAT WERE LAID OUT THERE.
LOCATIONS THAT HAVE AT LEAST 20 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN CROSSING OR AT LEAST 25, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS REPRESENTATIVE OF KIND OF THE STATUS QUO WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE SCHOOL GUARD PLACED SO THAT WE'RE NOT RELOCATING SOME BASED ON THE ACTION TAKEN OR THE GUIDANCE, UH, PROVIDED HERE TODAY.
SO YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT AS WE ARE, UM, HIRING MORE GUARDS.
UM, AND WE'RE EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE POSTED THAT, UM, WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING THOSE DEPLOYMENTS ON CROSSINGS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF KIDS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, LOCATIONS THAT HAVE, UM, HIGHER PREVAILING SPEEDS.
CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT HISTORICAL COLLISION DATA? YES.
AT THESE INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE IN THE FRENZY OF PEOPLE DROPPING KIDS ON AND OFF CARS WILL TAKE WHATEVER CURB THEY CAN GET TO NOT BE ON THE, UM, TRAVEL LANE, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE AT THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE, WHICH CAUSES FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO TURN IN TO NOT SEE PEOPLE CROSSING.
BASICALLY IT'S LIKE A DAYLIGHTING ISSUE WHERE I SEE FOLKS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT NO ONE COMING ON THE LEFT SIDE, BUT STILL CONTINUING TO ROLL IN THE RIGHT, WHICH LEADS INTO, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST, UM, CHILDREN PEDESTRIANS, BUT ANY PEDESTRIAN GETTING ALMOST WHACKED.
WE CAN CERTAINLY REPORT BACK ON PEDESTRIAN COLLISIONS, ESPECIALLY PEDESTRIAN COLLISIONS INVOLVING MINORS, UH, BASED ON THE REPORTING SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.
UH, JUST FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THAT SYSTEM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD REALLY HAVE THAT MUCH INFORMATION, UH, TO GO FROM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A VERY COMMON OCCURRENCE.
UM, SCHOOL CHILDREN BEING HIT, UH, ESPECIALLY AROUND SCHOOLS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REPORT BACK ON THAT, UM, FOR THE NEXT MEETING WHERE, UM, WHERE MINORS ARE BEING HIT IN PEDESTRIAN CRASHES, UH, FOR MORE INFORMATION.
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OKAY.SO WOULD THERE BE SUPPORT FOR THAT? UM, GUIDANCE FOR STAFF WAS REPLACING GUARDS TO FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE AUGMENTATION OF CONSIDERING NUMBER OF KIDS AT SPEED.
AS WE'RE MOVING INTO THE NEXT SEMESTER, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, REPORT BACK ON THAT PRACTICE AS WE'RE HIRING MORE GUARDS IN THE COMING MONTHS AND THEN BE PREPARED WITH A SUMMARY OF THE NUMBER OF, UM, PEDESTRIAN CRASHES INVOLVING MINORS AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, IN THE SPRING.
UM, BUT IF EVERYONE'S SATISFIED WITH US MOVING AHEAD WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SPRING SEMESTER.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE THE STUDY SESSION AND THE INPUT WE'VE PROVIDED.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD JUST BE TO CONDUCT THE STUDY SESSION.
JUST TO APPROVE THE STUDY SESSION.
UH, WELL, SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE MOTION IN A SECOND.
OR NAYS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL START WITH BRANDY A THANK YOU ROBERTO.
SO THAT MOVES US ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE DID RECEIVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, LEAD UP TO THE FIRST MEETING.
UM, SO I'LL JUST READ IT OUT LOUD.
UM, SO THIS IS FROM, UH, STACY KELLY ON NOVEMBER 18TH.
THIS IS THE EMAIL SENT TO THE CITY CLERK, UH, AT 9:45 AM IT WAS SUBJECT LINE, PUBLIC COMMENT,
I LEARNED OF A MEETING TAKING PLACE TODAY, MONDAY 1118 FOR THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND A PROPOSED STUDY SESSION ON THE CRITERIA FOR SCHOOL GUARD LOCATIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I CAVEAT THIS WITH THE FACT THAT I HAVE VERY LITTLE ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE JUST LEARNING OF IT TODAY.
I SHARE MY CONCERNS AS A RESIDENT AND PARENT, AND I OBSERVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES IN MY HOMESCHOOLS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LONG BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, BIXBY ELEMENTARY.
UH, COMMENTS ARE, I SEE MANY CARETAKERS DISREGARD PARKING AND TRAFFIC LAW AT BIXBY ELEMENTARY, DROP OFF AND PICK UP DESPITE CLEARLY MARKED PARKING SIGNS, RED MARKED CURBS, SAFETY CONES, AND REPEATED REQUESTS FROM THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL TO ABIDE BY SUCH LAWS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.
HOW WILL THIS BE CONSIDERED IF THERE IS NO RECORD OF CITATIONS? THIS COMMENT, BIXBY ARY PRINCIPLE, AUGUSTINE VIRA, AND I SUSPECT MANY OTHER SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS ACROSS LONG BEACH, IS PRESENT DAILY AT OUR SCHOOL CROSSWALK ON STERNS AVENUE.
I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE LONG BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS HAVE INPUT ON THIS PROPOSED STUDY SESSION AND CRITERIA FOR CROSSING GUARDS AS THEY OBSERVE FIRSTHAND WHAT THE SAFETY CHALLENGES ARE.
IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST LAW ENFORCEMENT BE PRESENT AT CERTAIN TIMES IN THE SCHOOL YEAR TO HELP MITIGATE THE ABOVE SAFETY CONCERNS? FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE INTERSECTION OF STEARNS LOS COYOTES DIAGONAL AND CLARK BE REVIEWED FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO BIG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FAMILIES WALKING SCHOOL.
STACY GARBE, LONG BEACH RESIDENT DISTRICT FOUR.
IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL ONE? MM-HMM
UM, THIS IS FROM A MICHAEL GARBE, UM, SINCE THE SAME DAY, UM, AT 12:44 PM ALSO TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UM, SAME SUBJECT LINE, UH, ARE READING.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY ASK TO STACY'S DESCRIPTION OF THE HISTORY AND SAFETY ISSUES WE'VE OBSERVED AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LONG BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS FURTHER RISKED DUE TO THE FOLLOWING TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS OCCURRING IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL ON STEARNS AVENUE, ILLEGAL MAIN STREET AND MID TRAFFIC U-TURNS WITH TURNS DOUBLE PARKING SPEEDING, FAILURE TO STOP FOR CROSSING GUARD PARENTS AND STUDENTS CROSSING THE CROSSWALKS, ILLEGAL U-TURNS AT INTERSECTION OF STEARNS AVENUE AND STANBRIDGE AVENUE, ILLEGAL LEFT TURNS INTO THE ALLEY BETWEEN BIXBY ELEMENTARY AND OUR LADY OF REFUGE SCHOOL.
PLEASE ADVISE ON HOW WE CAN ENSURE THESE CONCERNS ARE RAISED TO THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND FOLLOW UP ACTIONS TO ADDRESS THESE SAFETY
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CONCERNS THEYSO I, I CAN RESPOND TO A NUMBER OF, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, UH, IN THIS
UH, AND THAT IS THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION DOES MEET REGULARLY WITH, UM, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE ALSO, UM, COORDINATE WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT, UH, WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, SO WE CAN FLAG, UH, THIS CAMPUS, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT, UH, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR QUARTER.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO, UM, I BELIEVE HAVE, HAVE WE EVALUATED, UM, STEARNS AND MS. KYLIE'S DIAGONAL CLARK IN THE PAST? YEAH, IT'S ON YOUR LIST.
SO THEN, UH, YES, WE, UM, WE WILL NEED TO MOVE A GUARD THERE, UH, AS CHAIR AND ALSO AS CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND FOLLOW UP, RIGHT.
BUT, UH, YEAH, FROM, FROM THERE PERSPECTIVE, UM, THIS ALREADY SERVED ITS PURPOSE, UM, IN TERMS OF APPROVING THAT LOCATION IN THE PAST.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE HERE, UH, FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO, UH, THE EVENT REQUEST HAS ALSO BEEN SATISFIED.
SO, UH, TO AGAIN SUMMARIZE, UM, THE CONCERNS ARE ABOUT, UM, CITING, UM, ILLEGAL, UM, MANEUVERS, UH, REQUESTING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE PRESENT, UM, ENSURING THAT THERE'S, UM, LONG BEACH UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT REPRESENTATION.
UM, AND THEN REVIEWING THAT INTERSECTION, UH, TO DETERMINE IF IT'S, UH, APPROPRIATELY, UM, CLASSIFIED AS HAZARDOUS OR NOT.
AND SO, UM, WITH THAT WE RESPONDED, UM, TO ALL THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF HAVING PARKING ENFORCEMENT OR TRAFFIC PATROL WITHIN THE AREAS OF CERTAIN SCHOOL SITES DURING CERTAIN HOURS? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT JUST TAKES A LESSON TO BE TAUGHT TO ONE.
SO EVERYBODY CAN FALL INTO LINE.
A LOT OF TIMES THESE SITE ADMINS, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE BURBANK, UM, LAFAYETTE IS ONE OF 'EM.
UH, A COUPLE OF SITES HAVE CALLED OUR OFFICE AND ASK, YEAH, WHY CAN'T YOU CALL LONG BEACH PD OR PARKING ENFORCEMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
EVEN WITH WASHINGTON BEING MOVED FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER SITE, THE TRAFFIC, JUST THE RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC ALONE IS CHAOTIC.
WE CONSTANTLY EXPLAIN TO THEM, WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER PLACING AN OFFICER X, Y, Z.
IT'S UP TO THE SITE AND THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO REACH OUT TO LVPD AND TRAFFIC CONTROL TO GET THEM TO PATROL.
THEY'RE EMAILING US AND THEY'RE TELLING US, OKAY, WE'RE CALLING NOBODY'S RESPONDING.
HOW DO WE GET THAT ANSWERED RESOLVED? 'CAUSE AS I'M READING THIS EMAIL, WE ARE DOING OUR PART WITH THE CROSSING GUARD, BUT WE DON'T CONTROL TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, THOSE TYPES OF REQUESTS TYPICALLY, UM, DO COME INTO MY OFFICE.
SO, UH, WE RELAY THEM TO THE DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT ARMS. UM, PARKING ENFORCEMENT'S NOT UNDER MY AUTHORITY, BUT WE DO COORDINATE WITH 'EM.
UM, AND SO, UH, YEAH, WE'RE BOTH MEMBERS OF PUBLIC WORKS, SO, UM, WE DO WORK REGULARLY WITH THEM.
I WILL SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCING TO BE AT EVERY SCHOOL IN THE MORNING.
BUT, UM, YEAH, IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE DISTRICT TO IDENTIFY AREAS THAT ARE MOST PROBLEMATIC, UM, AND THEN WORK WITH THAT TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST, UM, SOMEONE IN THOSE AREAS ON A ROTATING BASIS, I THINK THAT CAN BE ARRANGED FOR.
UM, ALSO, UM, JUST TO HELP SET EXPECTATIONS, MY EXPERIENCE WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT IS, UM, THEY'RE, THE SIDE OF THE CAR SAYS PARKING ENFORCEMENT, NOT PARKING CITATION.
UM, AND SO TYPICALLY YOU, I BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO WHEN THEY'RE ENCOUNTERING ILLEGAL BEHAVIORS, FIRST TO TRY TO GET FOLKS TO MOVE ALONG OR TO COMPLY BEFORE THEY, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND ISSUE A CITATION.
SO, UM, ENVISIONING WHAT MAY BE HAPPENING IF THEY ARE CALLED OUT TO A SCHOOL CAMPUS WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD SHOW UP IF THEY SEE A DOUBLE PARKING OR SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, ANTI-SOCIAL DRIVING BEHAVIOR WOULD BE TO CONFRONT IT AND ASK THEM TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
THEY'RE NOT, DO THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CITE FOR DOUBLE PARKING?
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THAT I'D HAVE TO CONFIRM.UM, BUT MOVING VIOLATION, FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE BEEN AT SOME SITES WHERE THEY'VE DOUBLE PARKED, I'M SORRY.
AND I'VE BEEN AT SOME SITES WHERE THEY'VE DOUBLE PARKED AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT COMES BY AND JUST DRIVES RIGHT PAST.
SO THAT'S ALSO REALLY HELPFUL IF YOU WANNA COMMUNICATE THAT TO ME AND THE TIMES AND PLACES THAT THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE, I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PARTY ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.
UM, BUT YEAH, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE, UH, MOVING VIOLATIONS THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST IMPORTANT.
BUT YEAH, IT'S REALLY MORE SO ON THE, ON A LOT OF THINGS I'VE SEEN MOVING VIOLATIONS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT A LOT OF IT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SCHOOL SITES AND CARS COMING AROUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT REALLY FALL INTO PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF DOUBLE PARKING, KIDS COMING, WEAVING IN THROUGH CARS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THAT'S HOW A LOT OF CHILDREN GET HIT, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S NOT PATIENT ENOUGH TO WAIT OR SOMEBODY'S JUST HOLDING UP TRAFFIC 'CAUSE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR KID TO COME OFF THE PLAYGROUND IF THEY'VE CALLED 15 MINUTES AGO.
SO DO YOU SEE THINGS LIKE, UH, FOLKS PARKED AT RED CURBS TOO? OH YEAH.
SO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CERTAINLY SIGN FOR.
THEY DISREGARD ALL TYPE OF SIGNAGE THAT SURROUNDING SCHOOL SIGN.
I DO WANNA SHARE WITH YOU GUYS THAT I HAVE TALKED TO THE SUPERVISOR IN PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND THEY'RE ONLY BUDGETED AT LIKE 20 PEOPLE AND THEY'RE 24 HOUR, UH, THREE SHIFT.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO STAY AT ONE LOCATION AND, AND, UM, ALL THE TIME.
THEY MIGHT CIRCULATE ONCE OR TWICE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE OR REALISTIC FOR THEM TO STAY AT THAT LOCATION BEING THAT THEY'RE ON ALLOTTED LIKE 20 BODIES.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT IT'S FIVE DAYS IN A WEEK.
NOT SAYING COMPLAINING TO YOU, BUT IN MY VIEW AND IN MY EYE, I MAY BE WRONG.
IF YOU'RE A SCHOOL SITE, YOU'RE A SCHOOL SITE, YOU'RE A SCHOOL SITE, YOU'RE A SCHOOL SITE, YOU'RE A SCHOOL SITE, LET'S ALTERNATE MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY.
MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY.
THURSDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, MONDAY.
I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD GET OUT, IF THEY CAN GET OUT TO ONE SCHOOL AND SPEND AN HOUR AT ONE SCHOOL AND CITE SOMEONE AND HAVE THE GRAPEVINE GO THROUGH THAT I WAS CITED FOR DOUBLE PARKING OR BECAUSE THAT PERSON'S GONNA BE MAD AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM 'EM, PARKING ENFORCEMENT'S GONNA HEAR FROM 'EM, THEY'RE GONNA BE REALLY MAD.
UM, UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT REALLY NEEDS CONSISTENCY.
WE'VE HAD, MY SON IS AT N ELEMENTARY AND WE'VE HAD, WE HAVE THE WHOLE RANGE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
UM, BUT THE POLICE HAVE COME, PARKING ENFORCEMENT TICKETED PEOPLE.
THEY'RE BACK DOING THE SAME THING THE NEXT DAY.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BODIES, SO THEY CAN'T DO IT.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS NEEDED.
CONSISTENCY, MORE EDUCATION, A BIGGER SCALE, AND ALSO TALKING ABOUT CORRECTING BEHAVIOR, UM, STICKS VERSUS CARROTS, RIGHT? IF THERE'S A CAMPUS THAT HAS A, A LARGER DOUBLE PARKING ISSUE, UM, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS MIGHT BE THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE DEDICATED TO PASSENGER DROP OFF.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY TEAM CAN ASSIST WITH AS WELL.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE HEARING, UM, REPORTS ABOUT FREQUENT DOUBLE PARKING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO BY CHANGING SOME OF THE SIGNAGE AROUND THE CAMPUS, HOPEFULLY TO HELP TO MITIGATE THAT.
BUT, UH, SOLVE PROBLEM, IT ALL FALLS BACK TO THE C LITTLE BIT AT, AT HAND, JUST READING ME AND JUST FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS.
LOOK AT THE SIGN AND IT CLEARLY STATES NO PARKING FROM SEVEN TO FOUR EXIT.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, SO IF I, I RECOMMEND WE, UM, TWO IZE AND ITEMS THAT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANNOUNCEMENT.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT, THAT DEFINITELY DOESN'T AGENDA A TOPIC ON THAT.
WELL, AM I NOT SUPPOSED TO COMMENT NOW THAT SHE'S
IS THERE AND HAS THERE BEEN IN THE PAST, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO MANY SCHOOL SITES AND IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE AT EVERY SCHOOL SITE, AND SOME HAVE BIGGER ISSUES THAN, THAN OTHERS.
UM, THEY LOOK AT A CAMPAIGN MOVING FORWARD, BEGINNING OF SCHOOL FOR NEXT YEAR OF REALLY ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH VISUALS AND CARTOONS AND, AND THINGS THAT APPEAL TO KIDS AND CAREGIVERS AND SCHOOL STAFF.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT OUT OF THIS REALM AS, SO YEAH,
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NO, I THINK THAT, YEAH, AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF REPEAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE, UM, WHO ARE WELL INFORMED AND NEGATIVE AND POTENTIALLY COME UP WITH, SO IT WOULDN'T BE OUT OF, THIS IS JUST SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS, BUT AS FAR AS SCHOOL SAFETY AND FOR FAMILIES AND KIDS, THAT WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING WOULD BE ALL SCHOOL DISTRICT RESPONSIBILITY, SCHOOL DISTRICT.ALSO, WE HAVE A SAFE HOUSE SCHOOL TEAM IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT WOULD BE, UM, PARTNER WITH THE DISTRICT TO GET SOME TYPE OF CAMPAIGN.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE THIS COMMITTEE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO, UM, ASSIST WITH THAT, INCLUDING.
THEN, UH, NEXT STEP WOULD BE THERE'S ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S ONLY LIKE, EXPECT THE EVENTS YOU WANTED TO SHARE OR ANY, ANY UPCOMING WORKSHOPS OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE, MAKE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY LIKE, DISCUSSION OF BACK AND FORTH.