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10 32.IT'S DECEMBER 5TH, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER BOARD WAS GONNA QUIT.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? I MOTION WE OPEN IT.
SO IT'S BEEN MOVED BY BARRETT SECOND BY RICHIE.
AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES ITEM? OKAY.
UH, MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.
I GUESS WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE.
DO YOU WANT TO, IS ARE WE STILL STILL A ROLL CALL EACH TIME? YES.
ALRIGHT, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATIONS ORAL UPDATES.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION
AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT MAYBE AFTER HE'S DONE
YEAH, BUT YOU CAN STILL COMMENT.
I GUESS
AND WE WON'T BE MEETING UNTIL EARLY SPRING.
SO AT THE NEXT MEETING IS WHEN WE'LL, UM, REALLY BE PUSHING TO GET ANY, UM, NOMINATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
UM, AND THEN JUST SOME ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES FROM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ARE, UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU REMEMBER NANCY VIAS THE, UH, BUREAU MANAGER.
UM, THEY, WE'VE DONE SOME REORGANIZATION OF THE BUREAUS AND MY BUREAU IS NOW, UM, PART OF THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS BUREAU.
UM, SO WE WILL NOT HAVE A SEPARATE BUREAU MANAGER.
SO SHERLY BEADIE, WHO'S BEEN THE ACTING BUREAU MANAGER, IS GOING TO REMAIN AS A PARTNERSHIP OFFICER AND WILL BE BRINGING ON A PARK DEVELOPMENT OFFICER.
UM, THERE, THEY'LL BE INTERVIEWING FOR THAT SOON.
UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT YOU ALL SO MUCH, BUT, UM, SO I'LL STILL BE SHIRLEY AND I WILL STILL BE, UM, YOUR LIAISONS FOR THE COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, STEVEN SCOTT, WHO'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT, IS, UM, THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS BUREAU MANAGER.
SO I'LL PROBABLY BE ASKING HIM TO JOIN, UM, AT A FUTURE MEETING, UH, JUST TO INTRODUCE YOU ALL TO HIM SO YOU GET TO KNOW HIM A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND ALSO I BELIEVE POSSIBLY AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WE, WE'LL HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY ONE MORE TIME FOR A BROWN ACT PRESENTATION.
THEY'RE WANTING TO, UM, GONNA HIT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES AGAIN.
SO, UM, JUST BE AWARE THAT THAT'LL BE COMING.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY RECORD TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? ALRIGHT.
UM, I WILL, UH, I WILL OPEN IT UP ONCE AGAIN TO PUBLIC COMMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL VOICES ARE HEARD.
WE HAD A, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE GOLF OPERATIONS REPORT.
AND WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE CALL TO ROLL.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES ON COURSES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND OTHER ITEMS. WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION OPEN THIS ITEM.
SECOND MOTION BARRETT SECOND, RICHIE AND GARY, I THINK THIS IS YOU.
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IT'S ME.SO NOT A TERRIBLY LONG UPDATE TODAY.
UM, THE BIGGEST PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW FOR CAPEX, UM, WE'RE GETTING THE BID PROPOSALS TOGETHER FOR NEW TEES.
THINK IT'S BE 12 TO 14 TEES AT SKY LINKS, UM, AND POTENTIALLY THE BUNKERS ON 17 AND 18, UM, TO GET THOSE UPDATED.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT 15 TEES AT HARTWELL AS WELL AS EIGHT BUNKERS, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA LASER LEVEL RESURFACE RESOD.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO OF THE POLES THAT ARE LEFT OF THE DOG PARK AT REC PARK, UH, THAT THE POLES HAVE SNAPPED IN THE MIDDLE OR AT THE BOTTOM.
UM, SO THAT ONE WENT ONTO THE LIST, UM, SINCE THE LAST MEETING.
UM, WE GOT THOSE HIGH WINDS AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE PRETTY DANGEROUS.
I DO BELIEVE IT'S DECEMBER 9TH.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT CAME UP.
UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AT REC PARK.
UM, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE COURSE THAT'S BEEN, UM, THE MOST UNSETTLING.
WE'VE LOST THE ENTIRE CREW OVER THE SUMMER, UH, TO EITHER OTHER JOBS OR MOVED OUT OF, OUT OF THE STATE.
TWO GOT INJURED OUT OFF OF WORK AND ONE IS JUST ON LOA, JUST FOR PERSONAL REASONS.
SO WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THAT ONE.
BUT WE HAD A BUNCH OF WET SPOTS.
WE'VE HAD, UM, SOME, WE HAD ONE GREEN ON NUMBER FOUR THAT WE NEEDED TO GET FIXED JUST WITH SOME DRY SPOTS THAT'S BEEN REPAIRED.
SOME TEES THAT WE'VE NOW OVER SEEDED IN THIS AND THE GRASSES COMING IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT THAT'S BEEN THE ONE COURSE THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT.
UM, BUT I'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING THERE ON TUESDAY WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, UM, UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING.
UM, BUT EVERYTHING'S MOVING FORWARD AND LOOKING MUCH BETTER.
UM, THE HOLIDAY TOY DRIVE HAS STARTED.
WE'VE GOT THE BOXES AT ALL OF THE COURSES NOW.
UM, YOU'LL SEE AN EMAIL BLAST, UH, DEPENDING ON WHICH COURSE WE SEND OUT FIRST TODAY OR TOMORROW.
UM, ON THE TOY DRIVE, UH, IF YOU DONATE AN UNWRAPPED TOY, YOU'RE GONNA GET, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR NAME DOWN AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA GO INTO A RAFFLE, UH, FOR ENFORCEMENT GOLF IF YOU DONATE A TOY.
UM, SO IF YOU GUYS WANNA BRING A TOY IN, LET US KNOW.
UM, AND THEN THE BIGGEST CHANGE, UM, I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE GENTLEMAN OVER HERE ABOUT, UM, IS ON THIS, I THINK IT'S THE 17TH.
UM, AMERICAN GOLF IS CHANGING FROM FOUR UP.
OUR BOOKING ENGINE, OUR BOOKING SOFTWARE, UM, TO, WE'RE CHANGING THE GOLF NOW.
UM, THIS ELIMINATES A LOT OF THE TRADE TIMES THAT, UM, GOLF NOW WAS SELLING.
IT ELIMINATES SUPREME GOLF AND LET'S GO GOLF AND ALL THE OTHER CRAZY WEBSITES THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT AND WE'RE PAYING TOO MUCH MONEY FOR.
UM, IT'S THEIR OWN CREDIT CARD PROCESSING SYSTEMS IN HOUSE.
SO IT'S NOT THIRD PARTY PROCESSOR.
LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE NINE YARDS.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET, UM, BASICALLY IT'S GONNA BE A WELCOME EMAIL TO GOLF NOW, AND IT'S GONNA TELL YOU WHEN YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO IN AND SET UP YOUR NEW ACCOUNT TO BOOK TEE TIMES.
THE ONLY PEOPLE I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT ARE THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EIGHT DAYS OUT AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN BOOK, UH, WHEN THEY NEED TO.
UM, SO WHO WILL THAT EMAIL GO TO? IT'S GONNA GO TO ALL THE RESIDENTS.
FIRST ONE'S GONNA GO TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE AN ACTIVE RESIDENT CARD.
AND IT'S GONNA SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO SET UP YOUR NEW ACCOUNT TODAY.
BECAUSE WHEN IT GOES LIVE IN 48 HOURS, THAT'S YOUR EIGHT DAYS OUT.
FOR THAT FOLLOWING TUESDAY, I THINK.
UM, I'M THINKING IT'S GONNA BE ON TUESDAY, SO YOU WANT TO GET YOUR ACCOUNT SET UP BEFORE SUNDAY.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SET UP THE NEW ACCOUNTS UNTIL THAT SUNDAY OR THAT SATURDAY.
SO AS SOON AS I HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, UM, I'LL EMAIL IT OUT SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET THEIR NEW ACCOUNTS SET UP.
UM, BECAUSE FOUR UPS GONNA BE GONE.
LET'S GO GOLF, FOUR UP, ALL THAT'S GONNA BE GONE.
AND IF I, IN THE CONVERSATION WE HAD BEFORE THE MEETING, IF I CAN MAKE THAT FOLLOW UP, YOUR SUGGESTION THAT IF SOMETHING DOES GO CATASTROPHICALLY WRONG, JUST USE THE TEE TIMES FROM THE PRIOR WEEK.
I DO THAT SOMETHING WAS BASIC, YOU KNOW, OR WE'LL BLOCK IT AND YOU CAN JUST CALL US.
SO, 'CAUSE WE'LL BE THERE AT 6:00 AM TAKING TEE TIMES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE ISSUES.
SO WE'RE ALL HANDS ON DECK AT SIX.
WELL, I'M, I'M SAYING LIKE IF IT, IF IT BECOMES A DELAY FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS, SO LIKE ON FRIDAY, I DON'T SEE IT BEING A DELAY.
IT'S LITERALLY JUST GONNA BE WHEN ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO SET UP YOUR NEW ACCOUNT? RIGHT.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA GET 48 HOURS TO DO THAT.
ARE YOU GONNA BE USING THAT WAIT LIST FUNCTION? YES.
UM, I'M NOT SURE YOU GUYS HAVE, I'VE ALL GOT AN EMAIL ON IT.
WE ARE USING A SYSTEM CALLED NOTIFY NO TFI.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY, IT DOESN'T, IT DOES PERTAIN TO RESIDENTS, BUT RESIDENTS CAN BOOK EIGHT DAYS OUT.
SO NORMALLY THEY GET THEIR TEE TIME, BUT IF A SATURDAY MORNING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK TEE TIME CANCELS 48 HOURS OUT, AND YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO GET ALERTS BETWEEN SEVEN AND 9:00 AM ON SATURDAYS, IF SOMETHING OPENS UP, IT WILL TEXT YOU OR EMAIL YOU, HOWEVER YOU SET IT UP AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S A TEA TIME OPEN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY.
IF THERE'S 50,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP BETWEEN SEVEN AND NINE, IT ONLY SENDS
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10 MESSAGES OUT AT A TIME.SO WE'RE NOT GETTING CALL, OH, I JUST GOT A MESSAGE INSTEAD OF OPEN.
SO IT SENDS OUT 10 MESSAGES AND I THINK YOU HAVE LIKE 17 OR 18 MINUTES TO SIGN UP FOR THAT TEE TIME.
AND THEN IT SENDS THE NEXT SET OF 10 PEOPLE, UM, A MESSAGE.
AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL TO FILL OUR SINGLE SPOTS DAY OF DAY BEFORE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL FOR US SO FAR.
I DIDN'T BRING THAT REPORT, I WANT TO SAY AS A COMPANY, JUST THE BOOKINGS FROM THE NOTIFICATIONS FROM NOTIFY HAS BEEN LIKE $350,000, $348,000.
I CAN'T RUN JUST LONG BEACH YET.
UM, I GET THOSE REPORTS SENT TO ME EVERY MONDAY.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I WANNA SAY IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND $112,000 IN LONG BEACH THAT HAD BEEN BOOKED THROUGH NOTIFY.
WAS IT BECAUSE OF THAT? MAYBE A LOT OF 'EM ARE SEVEN DAYS OUT.
WE WERE GONNA FILL THAT ANYWAYS.
BUT BETWEEN ZERO DAYS OUT AND THREE DAYS OUT IS THE BIG NUMBER I'M LOOKING AT.
WE'VE HAD REALLY GREAT SUCCESS FILLING THOSE TEE TIMES.
SO GETTING PEOPLE OUT, WHICH GOOD.
AND MOSTLY SINGLES GET ON THAT SINGLES, TWOSOMES, THREESOMES.
INITIALLY I HAD MY RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU'RE GONNA EMAIL, LIKE YOU SAID, A THOUSAND PEOPLE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
NOW I'M MAD ALL OVER AGAIN THAT I DIDN'T GET A TEE TIME.
BUT THEN WHEN I HEARD THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, RANDOMLY SENDING TO 10 AND THEN RANDOMLY SENDING TO ANOTHER UNTIL THE TEE TIME GETS BOOKED, I THOUGHT THAT'S BOB GETS FIRST ALERTING SYSTEM ALERT AND THEN, AND THEN IT GOES OUT FROM THERE.
IS THAT WHY HE HAS FIVE TEE TIMES? YEAH.
SO, NO, IT'S BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
CAN YOU SEND ME THE, I KNOW
THE, THE, THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE USING ARE WORKING.
WE'RE ON A ONE YEAR TEST WITH THEM.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY GET IT, WE'RE GETTING THE, THE, THE SERVICE FOR FREE UNTIL, I THINK IT'S OCTOBER NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN WE'LL PAY BY THE COURSE OR BY THE REGION, HOWEVER IT WORKS.
BUT, UM, SO FAR IT'S BEEN GOOD.
WE MAY WANNA MAKE TWEAKS THAT ARE ONLY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BOOK OR WE'RE ONLY SENDING THOSE MESSAGES OUT, YOU KNOW, 48, 72 HOURS OUT.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA FILL SOMETHING A WEEK OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, RIGHT.
UM, BUT THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY REPORT FOR TODAY.
WE'RE IN A MAD HOUSE OF REPORTS AND URINE STUFF AND ALL THAT AND YEAH.
GOOD LUCK, BUDGETING, YOU NAME IT.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO, HE'S NOT GONNA, HE'S NOT GONNA DEFEND HIMSELF.
RIGHT? THERE'S TWO WEEKS AGO HE WASN'T EVEN THERE.
WE HAD A, A, A MOTION IN A SECOND AND, UM, WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE READY FOR THE ROLL CALL CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECOMMEND TO THE DIRECTOR THAT, THAT THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE PROPOSED GOLF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST FOR 2025.
UM, WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION TO OPEN.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MILER, SECOND FROM ILEY.
AND I THINK IS, UH, I'M, I'M, AS, AS FAR AS THE MECHANICS IS, IS THIS TO YOU THEN, LORI? UM, YES.
I THINK TECHNICALLY IT WOULD COME TO ME.
I WAS GOING TO IN TURN TURN IT OVER TO EITHER IF, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTS TO, UM, DISCUSS ANYTHING FROM THE MEETING LAST WEEK.
WELL, WE, WE DID HAVE A MEETING.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF TWO FOR THE MOMENT.
THE, THE AD HOC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO I WAS VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THIS, THIS LIST THAT ALL OF THE MEMBERS HAVE BEFORE THEM.
WE SPENT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME DISCUSSING REALLY PROJECT BY PROJECT.
AND I CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I I, IT WAS INFORMATIVE FOR ME.
I THINK, UM, I, I UNDERSTOOD THOROUGHLY WHY THE PRIORITIES WERE LISTED AS THEY ARE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY SENSE THAT IT, IT ALL MADE, UH, MADE GOOD RATIONAL SENSE BASED ON THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE ESTIMATED USE OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE PER YEAR.
AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING COMING OUTTA THE MEETING THAT ESSENTIALLY IT, IT BRINGS IN ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IS WHAT IS ESTIMATED AND IDEALLY, AND IN THE
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PLAN, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.SO ABOUT WHAT IS COMING IN IS, IS GONNA BE SPENT IN 2025.
SO, AND WITH ALL OF THAT, I I WAS CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PRESENTATION THAT, THAT WE HEARD AND APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO EACH YEAR, 1% OF GREEN FEES GOES BACK INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
10% OF GREEN FEES GOES BACK INTO THE CIP FUND.
50% OF THE SENIOR BACK NINE GREEN FEES GOES TO THE FUND.
UM, THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GUARANTEED TO COME OUT OF THE FUND ARE THE REPAYMENTS OF THE BOND FOR THE REBUILD OF SKY INCS.
UM, SO FROM THERE, I WANNA SAY IT'S A LITTLE OVER $700,000 A YEAR.
UM, THE NEW STIPULATIONS THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA CLARIFY AND PUT ON IT ARE THAT IT'S A MINIMUM OF $5,000.
IT'S GOTTA BE, UM, HAS A LIFE SPAN OF MM-HMM
OVER A USEFUL LIFE OF BETWEEN FIVE AND 15 YEARS.
AND, UM, ENHANCES THE LIFE OF THE CAPITAL ASSET.
AND SO USING THOSE, YOU KNOW, PARAMETERS TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN MAINTENANCE IN CIP, SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THESE FUNDS, UH, AMERICAN GOLF DIRECTLY DEPOSITS THESE FUNDS EVERY MONTH BASED ON THE GREENS FEES THEY'RE HELD IN A TRUST.
AND THEN, UM, WHEN PROJECTS COME TO, TO YOU, UM, THEY THEN GO TO THE DIRECTOR FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN AS THEY COME UP, UH, AMERICAN GOLF SUBMITS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FORM WHERE THEY SUBMIT, UM, THREE QUOTES.
IT HAS TO BE A PREVAILING WAGE.
UM, AND THE DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, BUREAU MANAGER AND DIRECTOR ALL SIGN OFF ON IT.
UM, AND THEN THAT'S THE GO AHEAD FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, UM, THEY SUBMIT THAT.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL INVOICES AND ACT AND PAYMENTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THAT TRUST FUND.
TELL ME AGAIN WHAT THE LONGEVITY IS TO QUALIFY IT AS A CAPITAL.
IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PROJECTS THAT ARE, ARE, THAT OCCUR EVERY FIVE TO 15 YEARS WITHIN THAT RANGE.
AND THAT COMES FROM THE CALIFORNIA, UM, DIR I'M JUST WAITING TO PAUSE RESPONSE TO THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING YET.
BUT I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME UP IS IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THIS, THIS IS A LONGER TERM QUESTION, BUT IS, IS THAT MILLION DOLLARS SUFFICIENT IN TERMS OF REINVESTMENT? OBVIOUSLY COSTS, EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP.
AND SO CONSIDERING THAT THE MONEY IS COLLECTED AND, AND ALLOCATED FOR, UH, CIP BASED ON A PERCENTAGE, IT ESSENTIALLY WOULD, WOULD GO UP AS A NATURAL ESCALATOR THAT WAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OUR SENSE OF IT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, LONGER TERM, IT'S, IT'S WORTH CONTINUING TO, YOU KNOW, REEVALUATE WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS PROVIDING A, A SIMILAR PLAYING EXPERIENCE AS WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING NOW 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT FROM 10% TO SAY 12 WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE NEW LEASE FOR 2029.
WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT IN THE MIDDLE, OBVIOUSLY.
YOU BOTH CAN MAKE OF THE SAME FACE.
OH, WITH THE AGREEMENT FOR, OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECTS? ANY, NO.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE LIST? OKAY.
ANY OTHER, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I ALL ON THIS, THIS IS A GOOD LIST.
ONE THING I WOULD SAY TO WHAT GARY SAID, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT THERE, THAT YOU DON'T BUDGET ALL OF THAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU GET AN EMERGENCY, LIKE THE TREE FALLING ON THE CLUBHOUSE OR THE, THE BUILDING AT REC, WHICH IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO WE ALWAYS TRY TO IDENTIFY ABOUT 80% OF THAT MONEY THAT WAS COMING IN.
UM, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, THE WHAT, THE ONCOURSE RESTROOM AND SNACK BAR AT EL, ARE YOU GONNA OPEN THE SNACK BAR AGAIN? IS THAT THE GOAL? OR? UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING WITH THE NEW SECURITY, WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING FROM A DT TO RING.
IT'S A MUCH BETTER SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, MONITOR IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, A DT IS JUST, HONESTLY, IT'S THE WORST.
UM, BUT IT KEPT GETTING BROKEN INTO.
AND THEY WERE STEALING ALL THE PRODUCT AND BREAKING INTO THE BATHROOMS AND, AND, UM, SO WE'RE EXPLORING THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET RING IMPLEMENTED.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE IT PORTION OF IT.
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SAY, JUST TO ADD ON THAT POINT, 'CAUSE I OBVIOUSLY PLAY ALL THE COURSES WEEKLY, UM, THE, THE, UH, THE RIVER BED OR THE, THE OVER THERE THAT THEY ALL THE HOMELESS, DISPLACED PEOPLE UNDER THE POWER LINES AND EVERYTHING.YEAH, THE POWER LINES, THE, THE CITY OF WHAT I THINK LOS ALAMITOS RIGHT? THEY'VE BEEN, UM, OR THE, IT'S THE EASEMENT FOR THE POWER LINE.
BUT THEY'VE DONE, DONE A, I GO THROUGH THAT ROAD EVERY DAY AND FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS THERE'S BEEN TONS OF PEOPLE OVER THERE.
AND THE LAST SIX MONTHS, LIKE THEY LITERALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY USE AGENT ORANGE, BUT THEY, THEY, EVERYTHING'S DEAD OVER THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN LIKE REALLY, REALLY WORKING HARD TO GET RID OF THOSE PEOPLE.
AND THIS TIME IT'S THE FIRST TIME I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN THREE MONTHS THAT NO ONE IS LIVING IN THERE.
SO THAT'LL HELP THIS, FIX THIS, UH, OPEN THE SNACK S**T, UH, SHOP THING.
YOU KNOW, THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS DANA, THE INSTRUCTOR.
IS BLASTING CITY COUNCIL WITH PICTURES OF IT.
I DON'T THINK HE'S HAD TO DO THAT FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT WAS TERRIBLE THREE YEARS AGO.
BUT, AND THEN THEY WOULD COME IN AND THEY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD, THEY'D HAVE CITY TRUCKS, POLICE AND SOCIAL WORKERS.
THE WHOLE THING HAD, WE HAD A GREEN KEEPER THAT GOT ATTACKED AND IT WAS ALMOST STABBED BY A HOMELESS GUY OVER THERE.
UM, AND AFTER THAT, THAT'S WHEN ALL MET OFF.
SO, WELL, THEY BREAK INTO ALL THE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, DOWN.
WE ALL HAVE, EVERYONE KNOWS THE ROUTINE, BUT I WOULD SAY THE LAST THREE MONTHS THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT HASN'T, THERE'S BEEN NO ONE OVER THERE.
LAW CHANGED, YOU KNOW, THE SUPREME COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF CITY OF GRANTS PASS OREGON, UH, BASICALLY TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, POLICE BETTER ON HOMELESS ISSUES.
SO YEAH, THERE'S TONS OF CITY SERVICES.
'CAUSE I, WHERE I LIVE, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE AND THEY'RE OFFERED SERVICES ALL THE TIME AND THEY REFUSE THEM AND THEY LIVE OUT THERE AT THEIR OWN CHOICE.
BUT THE CITY HAS SERVICES AND BEDS FOR THEM AND FOOD.
A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, PARKING LOTS BEING REPAIRED AND SLURRY.
IS THERE A SCHEDULE OF WHO GOES FIRST, SECOND, THIRD FLOOR? IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE COMPANY BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE MORE WORK AT HARTWELL, HARTWELL PARKING LOT'S REALLY MESSED UP.
AND WE'VE GOTTA REALLY, WE GOTTA PUT A WHOLE NEW TOP LAYER ON THAT ONE.
EL DORADO ON THE SKINNY SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF TREE ROOTS AND EVERYTHING THAT HAVE DAMAGED IT.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE MORE REPAIR OVER THERE.
UM, SKY LINKS DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF REPAIRS, SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE THEY WANNA GO TO FIRST.
UH, THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD ONE OF OUR QUOTES FROM SOLD THE BUSINESS AND HE IS NOT DOING IT ANYMORE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND GET NEW QUOTES AND, UM, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S COVERED, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA ADD IN THE PARKING LOT FOR OUR OVERFLOW PARKING LOT THAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE AIRPORT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, REESE SLURRY THE BLACKTOP THROUGH THE ENTRANCE OF HARWELL, NOT JUST THE PARKING LOT.
SO THERE'S LITTLE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD TO IT, BUT WE JUST GOTTA GO BACK AND GET NEW QUOTES.
THE, THE ONE THING THAT'S NOT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, BUT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IS THE CROSSWALKS.
HOW DO WE, AND I SHOULD HAVE COVERED THIS IN YOUR REPORT, BUT I JUST NOTICED THEM THE OTHER DAY.
WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE, AT THE CIP MEETING.
SO I GOT THE UPDATED QUOTES BACK FOR THE BLINKING LIGHTS AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE, THAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO APPROVE, UM, I GOT THE QUOTES.
THE CITY CAME BACK AND SAID WE NEEDED TO PUT IN MEDIANS IN THE MIDDLE OF WARDLOW.
SO IT BASICALLY BE TWO MEDIAS ON EITHER SIDE SO THAT YOU HAVE A PLACE TO STOP IF THERE IS A CAR COMING, THERE'S A PLACE TO STOP WITH ANOTHER SIGN IN THE MIDDLE THAT ARE ALL, UM, UM, POWERED BY THE SUN.
UM, THEY'RE ALL SOLAR POWERED.
THERE'S NO ELECTRICAL RUN OUT THERE, BUT THERE WOULD BE A MEETING WHERE HE COULD STOP A MEDIAN TO WHERE HE COULD STOP THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.
THE, THE LOWEST QUOTE WE CAME IN WAS AT $193,000.
IS THAT TWO OF THE MEDIANS? THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYTHING.
THAT'S TWO MEDIANS ON EACH SIDE.
NEW SIGNS, NEW PAINT, NEW STRIPING.
THEY'RE REASONING FOR WHY THAT CROSSWALK WAS OKAY.
WAS THAT IT HAD THE SIGNAGE BLANK SPACE IN THAT THEY CALL THE MEDIANS.
AND NOW THEY WERE, THEY'RE, NOW THEY'RE REQUIRING, REQUIRING LIKE A RAISED LIKE ARRAY, A RAISED MEDIAN ONLY.
NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE, BUT ONLY AROUND THOSE SECTIONS.
SO THEY'RE SAYING THAT CROSSING IS WHO IS THEY IS INSUFFICIENT CITY.
I MEAN IF THIS NEEDS TO GO ON RECORD, BUT, SO THERE WAS A PERSON THAT GOT HIT BY A CAR AND THE PERSON WHO HIT THE GOLF CART WAS FOUND AT FAULT.
THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY PAID FOR EVERYTHING.
THEY'RE NOW SUING THE DRIVER OF THE GOLF CART, SKY LINK'S AND AMERICAN GOLF.
I HAD A DEPOSITION LIKE A MONTH AGO.
THE GUY THAT HIT THE GUY IS SUING.
YEAH, THEY'RE SUING EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE CITY.
THEY, MY LAST DEPOSITION ENDED WITH WHO PUT THE STOP SIGNS AND THE CROSSWALK AND THE STREET.
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AND SO NOW THEY'RE SAYING THAT, I DON'T REMEMBER THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT THE SIDEWALK OR THE CROSSWALK IS THERE AND IS IN THE RIGHT SPOT WHERE HE GOT HIT, BUT NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CROSSWALK.SO THERE'S SOMETHING MATHEMATICAL ABOUT WHERE THE CROSSWALKS ARE THAT THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE SOMEBODY POTENTIALLY FOUND AT FAULT OTHER THAN THE DRIVER OF
BUT THAT'S ALL LAWYERS AND DEALING WITH THAT.
SO IF HE LOSES THE LAWSUIT, THEN WE'RE FINE.
IF HE WINS THE LAWSUIT, THEN THE DRIVER OF THE GOLF CART HAS COUNTERSUED AMERICAN GOLF 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T WANNA LOSE HIS HOUSE.
SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND THERE'S, THEY'RE THINKING THAT WE COULD GO TO COURT IN JANUARY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA HELP THE SITUATION OR HURT THE SITUATION.
THEY KNOW THAT THE PROJECTS COULD BE APPROVED, MAY NOT BE APPROVED.
UM, ME ORIGINALLY THINKING IT WAS GONNA BE 50 TO 60,000 IS NOW 200.
UM, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IF WE WANNA HOLD OFF ON IT AND SEE.
BUT I THINK FOR THE BETTERMENT AND SAFETY, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT.
UM, IT WILL ENHANCE THE AREA, BUT IT WON'T CHANGE THE LAWSUIT OR ANYTHING.
SO THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THERE YESTERDAY.
I JUST, I HEARD A GENTLEMAN WAS CROSSING AND I GUESS A LADY ALMOST HIT HIM AND HE HAD A BALL WENT BALLISTIC.
SHE HUNG A UEY AND CAME BACK AROUND AND WAS PARKED FACING THE GOLF COURSE.
SHE WAS GOING, UM, AWAY FROM THE AIRPORT AND SHE GOT OUT WITH HER PHONE AND STARTED VIDEOTAPING.
'CAUSE THIS GUY WAS, I GUESS BEEN, WAS GOING BALLISTIC ON HER.
AND HE TOLD HER TO COME OVER 'CAUSE SHE, HE WAS GONNA, YOU KNOW, ROUGH HER UP, BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A WOMAN.
AND ITS BUDDY SAYING, CALM DOWN, IT'S, IT'S A WOMAN.
WHY DON'T YOU GUYS TEXT ME? YOU GUYS TEXT ME ALL THE TIME.
I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT IT TILL LUNCHEON AND THEN I DIDN'T SEE YOU AGAIN TO TELL YOU.
THEY PROBABLY NEED THEM AT THIS, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR IN FIVE YEARS IF YOU NEED THEM.
BECAUSE I, I, I WAS THERE TODAY AND YOU LOOK BOTH WAYS AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST WAIT.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU DON'T TRUST THEM.
SOMEONE'S LATE TO GO TO THE AIRPORT OR COMING FROM THE AIRPORT AND, AND THEY DON'T CARE AND THEY SEE YOU.
YOU ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE WE'RE WALKERS.
WE GOT CARTS AND WE'RE STANDING THERE AND THEY'RE LIKE, AND SO IT, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
I KNOW, BUT ESPECIALLY WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE FUNDS.
AND MY LAST QUESTION IS TO THE LAWYER.
I DON'T WANT IT TO JEOPARDIZE THE LAWSUIT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T, I I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS OKAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MY ONE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE 'EM OR NOT, BUT IS THERE REALLY NO WAY TO GET FUNDING FROM ANYWHERE ELSE? I MEAN, IT'S, THIS IS TRANSPORTATION.
IT SEEMS, I MEAN THAT JUST SEEMS STRANGE THAT IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY ON THE FALL ON THE GULF ROADWAY TO THE AIRPORT.
THE AIRPORT YOU COULD GO TO THE STATE COULD KICK IN SOME, I MEAN WE, THAT'S WHY IT TOOK, THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR TWO YEARS.
SO WE HAVE TO GO TO A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.
'CAUSE THE CONTRACTOR THAT THE CITY USED AND GAVE US SAID THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GONNA BE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE IF YOU DO IT THROUGH US.
YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR TO DO IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO FIND CONTRACTORS THAT COULD ABLE TO DO THAT STUFF.
BECAUSE HE SAID WE'RE, I THINK IT WAS CACO.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S HE'S DOING HARWELL WITH HORSE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT THEY SENT FROM THE CITY.
AND THEY WERE LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD US.
I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S THE APPROVAL PROCESS? I MEAN WE CAN'T JUST GO PUT A MEDIAN OUT IN A STREET WITHOUT THE CONTRACTOR GOES TO THE CITY, GETS THE PERMITS APPROVED OR THE PLANS APPROVED, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE PLANS.
THEY DESIGN THE PLANS WITH US.
SO WHO APPROVED IT, I GUESS IS, OR IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET.
WHO WOULD APPROVE IT? THE CITY BUILDING AND PLANNING FOR CITY ENGINEER.
BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH AND GET THE TRAFFIC BLOCKS AND SET ALL THAT UP AND CLOSE THE STREET.
WHY DOES IT FALL ALL ON THE GOLF COURSE? THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION THAT'S MORE FOR BOB.
IS THERE SIDEWALKS ALONG THERE? NO, NO, NO, NO.
BUT WE WOULDN'T NEED THE CROSSWALKS THERE IF THE GOLF COURSE WASN'T THERE.
WELL YOU PRETTY EXPAND THERE WITHOUT A CROSSWALK.
YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A CROSSWALK SOMEWHERE ON THERE.
I THINK YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE A CROSSWALK AT THE LIGHT AT SPRINGING OR LAKE OR PARK OR AT LAKEWOOD.
SINCE WE HAVE SOME IN BETWEEN, WE'RE BREAKING A CITY THING.
SO IF WE'RE WE MEANING THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT.
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS UNLIKELY TO INVEST THE MONEY SINCE SOMEONE IS LEASING IT FROM US.
BUT YOU CAN PARK ALONG THERE AND IF YOU PARKED HALFWAY IN BETWEEN LAKEWOOD BOULEVARD AND CLARK, YOU WOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO WALK.
WHY WOULD YOU BE PARKING THERE? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW FOR WHATEVER REASON.
BUT YOU CAN PARK THERE, RIGHT? WELL PEOPLE PARK THERE AND GO USE THE
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PUTTING GREENS.WALK RIGHT IN FOR WHATEVER REASON.
IF YOU CAN PARK THERE AND YOU WANT TO BE GOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE TO WALK.
IF YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE, THEY WOULD SAY THAT YOU SHOULD WALK TO LAKEWOOD OR TO CLARK AND CROSS AT THE ROCK.
I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING NEW.
WE JUST CHANGED IT IN CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU FOR IF WE JUST GOT RID OF THE CROSSWALK COMPLETELY THEN.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT THE QUOTES, SUBMIT EM TO THE CITY ON THE OVERFLOW PARKING LOT.
DO YOU GUYS NEED IT AT LAKE, AT SKY LAKES? WE HAD IT HALF FULL TODAY.
AND THAT IS ACTUALLY ON AMERICAN GOLF'S LEASE.
WE HAD TO GET A PERMISSION TO LET THE AIRPORT DO IT THROUGH A MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING USE IT BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, BUT THEY CANCELED.
IT'S ALL, YEAH, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL TECHNICALLY AIRPORT PROPERTY.
WERE THEY PAYING FOR IT OR NO, BECAUSE THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS TO PAY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF RENT TO THE AIRPORT TO HAVE SKYLING OVER.
SO WHAT I WANT TO DO TO THAT PARKING LOT IS PUT A GATE ON WARDLOW AND PUT A GATE ON BOTH OF THE ENTRANCES ON, EXCUSE ME, A GATE ON LAKEWOOD AND THE TWO GATES ON WARDLOW SIDE.
SO THAT'S ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY OUR MAINTENANCE CREW.
'CAUSE PEOPLE COME AND THEY PARK OVERNIGHT AND THEY THROW TRASH AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO I'M GONNA PUT GATES IN THAT WE CAN OPEN IT FOR OUR EVENTS AND BEFORE WE NEED IT FOR OVERFLOW.
BUT IF YOU'RE PARKED THERE OVERNIGHT, IT'S THE SAME CLASSIFICATION.
IF YOU'RE PARKED ACROSS THE STREET, WE'LL GET THE LIGHTS FIXED, WE'LL GET THE PARKING LOT AND BE STRIPED.
AND UM, BRENT WANTED ME TO PUT PICKLEBALL THERE, BUT IT WAS
UM, DIDN'T HAVE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE NEED FOR THE CONSOLE.
I WAS LIKE, I COULD PLAY PICKLEBALL EVERY DAY AT WORK AND MY WIFE WOULD NEVER KNOW.
UM, BUT, UH, MORE PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THE, THE STREET.
SO WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING DIFFERENT THINGS OVER THERE WITH IT.
UM, I I WAS EVEN TEMPTED TO TO ADOLESCENT FENCING AND MAKE NUMBER FOUR LONGER.
BUT UH, THAT'D PROBABLY BE A WHOLE NOTHER PROJECT.
SO, UM, WE JUST WANNA GET THAT FIXED AND SEALED UP SO THAT PEOPLE QUIT USING IT.
'CAUSE THEY STILL USE IT FOR THE CELL PHONE LOT.
AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE CROSSWALK, YOU, WE DID MEET WITH MEGAN KERR, WHO IS DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH IS THIS DISTRICT THAT THE CROSS THAT SKY LINKS IS IN.
IT VIRTUALLY RUNS FROM THE RIVERBED AT WHAT? HERE AT SAN GABRIEL ALL THE WAY TO LOS ANGELES RIVER BED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICT MAP, IT'S A LONG SKINNY DISTRICT AND WE'VE MET WITH HER MM-HMM
AND SHE PRETTY MUCH LAID IT ON THE LINE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT WOULDN'T PAY FOR THAT CROSSWALK TO GO IN MM-HMM
BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THE CITY WOULD, I TOLD THE CITY TO DO IT AND PAY FOR IT AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE OPERATION TO GET THE FUNDS FROM THE GOLF FUND.
AND THEY WERE LIKE, NO, WE DON'T DO THAT.
YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO IT ALL IN HOUSE.
ONE LAST THOUGHT IS, I KNOW THERE ARE GRANTS FOR STREETS WHERE IF IT'S A GREEN MEDIAN THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME FUNDING FOR IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE THAT AVAILABLE IN THIS AREA.
AS PART OF OUR, THAT GREEN'S BEEN GONE TIME.
WE ARE, WE'RE GETTING A NEW, WELL JUST BECAUSE OUR PREVIOUS ONE TRANSFERRED, BUT WE'RE UM, IN A WEEK OR TWO WE'RE GETTING A NEW GRANTS OFFICER.
AND SO THAT WAS ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO ASK ABOUT, UM, TO LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE A NEW WHAT OFFICER GRANTS.
THERE ARE NON-PROFITS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY FUNDING FROM THE STATE AS WELL FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT GREEN STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, ANY, BY THE TIME WE SPEND THE MONEY AND WE DO THE TEES AND THE BUNKERS AT THE TWO COURSES, IT'LL PROBABLY BE SEPTEMBER.
THE FUNDS ARE GONNA REPLENISH THEMSELVES.
SO IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD IF WE HAVE TO SPEND IT.
BUT IT JUST CITY WANTS US TO DO IT THIS WAY AND IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR, BUT IF YOUR MEDIAS ARE GOING IN, YOU WANT THEM TO LOOK THE BEST AND GET THE MOST OUT OF IT POSSIBLE.
SO THERE'S A WAY TO PARTNER TO MAKE IT DON'T, I'D HAVE TO RELOOK AT THE PLANTS AND SEE WHAT SIZE THEY ARE.
BUT I THINK IT'S LITERALLY JUST A CONCRETE RAMP.
WITH LIKE THE PLATES THAT ARE THERE.
I HAVE MUCH SPACE FOR MORE TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
NO, IT'S NOT GONNA GO ALL THE WAY DOWN.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST IN THOSE FOUR POCKETS.
GOT LIKE AN ISLAND, OR YEARS AGO IT WAS A GRASS MEDIAN WHERE PUT THE SIGNS IN, IT BECAME A BRICK MEDIAN AND THEN IT WAS GONE.
SO LIKE CARS HIT IT AND THEY LAUNCH OVER THE GOLF CART CENTER BASICALLY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO, WHEN THEY RACE AT NIGHT BECAUSE LARRY, YOU LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT.
YOU, I MEAN THEY RACE CONSTANTLY UP AND DOWN WARDLOW.
IT WAS FROM LAKEWOOD ALL THE WAY THROUGH EL DORADO PARK WHEN I WAS YOUNG.
SO WE, WE MAY NEED IT'S ON RIGHT HERE TOO.
IT'S OF A FRIENDLY AMENDED, UH, MOTION HERE TO RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE PROPOSED CIP LIST FOR 2025 WITH
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THE ADDITION OF THAT PROJECT.UH, WE HAD A, A MOTION FROM MEIER AND A SECOND FROM ILEY.
ARE YOU OPEN TO THE AMENDED MOTION? YES.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? ARE YOU GONNA JUST READ US THE UPDATED? SO, UH, WHAT I HAVE THEN IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE DIRECTOR THAT PROVED THE PROPOSED GOLF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST FOR 2025 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE EXPLORATION OF THE MEDIAN PROJECT.
YOU COULD PROBABLY SAY AS A MEMBER, JUST CHANGE THAT.
ON THE BUDGET FOR WHATEVER YOU CALL THIS.
MAYBE HE SHOULD SAY AT SKYLINES SO IT'S NOT JUST A MEDIAN PROJECT THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE.
DO DO WE NEED TO RESTATE THAT ONE MORE TIME? NO.
I'VE BEEN CALLING YOU MEMBER VICE CHAIR INGS? YES.
ONTO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED 2025 GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING DATES.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION CONING SECOND RICHIE.
AND IS THERE A, UH, A LIST TO DISCUSS MEETING DATES? OKAY.
DID YOU NOT HAVE IT, KEVIN? I DIDN'T SEE IT.
UM, WAS THERE, OH, OH, I'M SORRY.
DON'T SEE, I HAD TOO, I HAVE PRINTED IT OUT FROM THE, THE EMAIL.
SO, UM, PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY HERE.
THE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED, I THINK A MEETING OR TWO AGO, WE, UH, PUSHED THE MEETINGS, UM, BY A MONTH TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE THAT, UM, NEW APPROVAL PROCESS FOR FEES.
SO, UM, WE'LL BE, WE'LL WE'RE SEEING ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH MEETING IN MARCH, JUNE, SEPTEMBER AND DECEMBER FOR 2025.
AND, AND THE TWO 30 TIME STILL WORKS.
'CAUSE I KNOW AT ONE POINT, I THINK WE WERE AT THREE 30 AND IT MOVED TO TWO 30.
I JUST NEED TO SEE SOMETHING IN NOVEMBER.
FIRST THURSDAY, SAME TIME, SAME PLACE.
MARCH, JUNE, SEPTEMBER, DECEMBER.
AND THEN THE STANDING MEETING AGENDA ITEMS, WE'VE TECHNICALLY MOVED ALL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO AD HOC MM-HMM
SO I THINK WE ONLY HAVE TWO THAT ARE TECHNICALLY IN, IN PLACE.
BUT I HAD ONE CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
DOES THE AD HOC COMMITTEE BASED ON THE STRUCTURE NOW NEED TO BE RECREATED BEFORE IT MEETS EVERY TIME? OR IS IT THE AD HOC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS SUBCOMMITTEE STILL IN PLACE BECAUSE WE ACTIVATED IT AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, UH, ADDRESSES THE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
SO, UM, YEAH, I I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THE, THE STANDING MEETING MM-HMM
AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE TO BE ONE.
WE HAVE TO BE ONE MEETING AHEAD YES.
SO FOR THE MARCH MEETING, WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING ALL OF THOSE ITEMS MM-HMM
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MARCH MEETING, THEN FOR THEN AT THIS MEETING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AD HOCS, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
WE WILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE CREATE THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE TO EXAMINE THOSE FEES BEFORE THEY COME TO THE FULL COMMITTEE.
SO THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
WE HAD A MOTION MEMBER INGS, WE HAD A SECOND MEMBER RICHIE.
AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE ROLE.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE UPDATES FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE, CREATE OR REAUTHORIZE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
AND WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION OPEN.
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ILEY.AND UM, SO I KNOW WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE, UM, CIP LIST, BUT THE, UM, CIP AD HOC COMMITTEE DID MEET, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OR RECEIVED AND FILED BY THE FULL COMMITTEE.
THE ONE, THE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS WE ONLY HAD TWO MEMBERS MM-HMM
AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME WE WOULD GENERALLY WANT AT LEAST ONE MORE MEMBER.
UM, SO IS THERE A SWEET SPOT WE KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN FOUR MM-HMM
ARE WE GONNA SHOOT FOR THREE OR FOUR OR IS TWO? SO SHE'S NOT IDEAL? UM, IT WAS, SO THE, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING WHERE WE KIND OF ESTABLISHED THE AD HOC COMMITTEES AND I HAD TO KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK INTO THAT QUESTION AND UNFORTUNATELY THE ANSWER WAS THAT IT REALLY SHOULD BE DONE, UM, IN TERMS OF ADDING OR REMOVING MEMBERS FROM AD HOC COMMITTEES REALLY SHOULD BE DONE AT THE FULL MEETING.
SO WE PROCEEDED WITH THE TWO THAT WE HAD, UM, ON THE ESTABLISHED COMMITTEES.
SO, UM, YES, I THINK IDEALLY FOUR, BUT THREE WORKS AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THAT, SO THEN, SO THEN, BASED ON WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST ITEM, SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER CREATING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE HALL OF FAME.
AND, UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A PARTICULAR SUBCOMMITTEE FOR EMERGENCY ON-CALL LIST AND, AND NO, THE PROPOSED FEES WOULD PROBABLY BE A CREATION OF AN AD HOC FEES AND CHARGES COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT.
THE HALL OF FAME IS, IS IS A SEPARATE COMMITTEE.
IT'S ITS OWN KIND OF, UM, FUNCTION.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE, UM, CIP AD HOC COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE THE GULF OPERATIONS MANUAL AD HOC COMMITTEE.
SO WE CAN, UM, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR REAUTHORIZE THOSE.
AND THEN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT GOLF FEES.
UM, FOR NEXT YEAR WOULD BE ONE WE WOULD WANNA CONSIDER CREATING.
CURRENTLY ON THE CIP, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAD TWO MEMBERS, BUT I THINK WE'RE READY TO DISSOLVE THAT ONE FOR THE TIME BEING.
AND THEN, UM, FOR THE GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH, WITH THAT ONE? WE'RE, WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM GARY I THINK BY THE MARCH MEETING.
WE'LL TRY TO HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THAT MM-HMM
SO WE CAN RECOMMEND TO THE FULL COMMITTEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, HERE IT IS.
AND DID WE NEED ANYONE ELSE IN THAT? THAT'S DON AND WE HAVE JOYCE.
AND THEN BOB COULD WRITE 'CAUSE IT COULD BE A PUBLIC YEAH, THAT WAS MAINTENANCE ONE.
BUT THERE WAS THE MAINTENANCE ONE TOO.
YES, THERE WAS, BUT WE HAVEN'T MET, BUT WE'RE NOT, THIS ONE WE REDID THE MANUAL.
SO LEMME LEMME TRY TO MAKE SOME SENSE OF IT.
SO FIRST WE ARE, SEE THERE WAS THIS, WE ARE, WE, WE, WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE ANOTHER CIP MEETING MOST LIKELY IN THIS, THIS YEAR.
SO THE FIRST ACTION WOULD BE TO CONSIDER DISSOLVING THE AD HOC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UH, COMMITTEE.
WE NEED SPECIFIC MOTION FOR EACH IN A, IN A VOTE.
OR CAN WE JUST PUT THIS ALL INTO ONE, ONE BIG MOTION? WE CAN PUT IT INTO ONE BIG MOTION.
IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN GET THERE.
SO I'M GONNA TAKE NOTES HERE SO I CAN HOPEFULLY READ IT OFF CORRECTLY.
SO, AND THEN, UM, THE SECOND WE NEED TO REAUTHORIZE THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
OPERATIONS REVIEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES POLICIES IS WHAT THAT COMMITTEE IS.
WELL, I THINK BECAUSE THEY'RE PROJECT BASED, I WAS CALLING IT THE, THE GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL UPDATE.
SO THAT'S STILL IN PLACE 'CAUSE IT HASN'T COMPLETED ITS WORK YET.
SO THEN, AND WE DON'T NEED THE HALL OF FAME.
SO THEN WE NEED TO CREATE AN AD HOC FEES AND CHARGES SUBCOMMITTEE FOR A MEETING PRIOR TO THE MARCH 6TH GAC MEETING.
AND WE'RE DOING AWAY WITH MAINTENANCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL.
WE, UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER AT ANOTHER TIME.
'CAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE I WAS ON, DIDN'T MISS.
SO, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE COULD CREATE THAT, BUT AT THE MOMENT, SINCE WE SWITCHED TO THE NEW FORM, THERE WASN'T A MEETING PLANNED FOR THIS NEXT QUARTER, SO RIGHT.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO REAUTHORIZE IT AT THIS MOMENT.
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COMMENTS? AND THEN I'LL TRY TO, I'LL TRY TO READ THIS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.I THINK YOU NEED TO, WHEN YOU'RE ESTABLISHING THEM, YOU NEED TO ALSO DETERMINE THE MEMBERSHIP.
AND JUST, SO JUST FOR EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE, UM, WHAT THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE WILL DO IS, UM, EVERY YEAR AMERICAN GOLF PROPOSES THEIR FEES FOR THE YEAR.
UM, AND SO THEY COME TO THAT SUB, THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE FIRST BEFORE THEY COME TO THE LARGER COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S LOOKING AT THEIR PROPOSED, UM, GREEN FEES INCREASES, UM, SOMETIMES FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMES OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO.
SO, UM, AND WE CAN DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN DEPTH THE PROCESS FOR HOW THAT WORKS, UM, AT THAT MEETING.
BUT I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD MEET IN FEBRUARY FOR THAT, UM, BEFORE THE MARCH, UH, MEETING.
ONE LAST QUESTION, JUST 'CAUSE THIS IS ALL NEW MM-HMM
ARE WE ABLE TO CREATE THE AD HOC, SAY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN SUGGEST THAT IT IS GOING TO BE IN PLACE FOR A YEAR SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSTANTLY DO THIS? YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT PER PER PROJECT.
IF YOU KNOW THAT, UM, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING IN A YEAR AND YOU WANT TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS THAT A YEAR FROM NOW, THEN YOU KIND OF HAVE YOUR ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, SCOPE AND TIMING.
BUT AT EVERY MEETING YOU WILL STILL NEED TO REAUTHORIZE THE COMMITTEE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL TRY TO READ, READ THIS OFF HERE.
SO, UM, THE, UH, I THINK WE NEED OUR MEMBERS.
IS THAT OKAY? SO, UH, FOR THE FEES, SO FIRST WE'RE, SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DISSOLVING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND ARE WE TAKING THESE, IT'S ONE MOTION BUT THEN ITEM BY ITEM? OR DO THEY EACH NEED THEIR OWN MOTION? I THINK IT CAN BE ONE MOTION.
SO THEN WE NEED TO, WE, WE, WE DON'T, BECAUSE IT'S A REAUTHORIZATION, WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE MEMBERSHIP FOR THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES CORRECT.
SO WE JUST NEED TO GOLF OPERATIONS.
SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, UH, WHO, WHO SHOULD PARTICIPATE, WHO WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE FEES AND CHARGES AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
I'LL BE ON, I I WHAT COMMITTEE IS THIS? I'LL VOLUNTEER.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO BE ON MORE THAN ONE OR TWO.
I MEAN IT WELL, YOU WERE ON LAST PART.
IF THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED FOR, TO MEET, UM, AT A SMALLER GROUP TO REVIEW AMERICAN GOLF'S FEE PROPOSALS, UM, IN FEBRUARY.
WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND TOO? I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANYTHING IF YOU NEED ME.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON THAT SECOND COMMITTEE? I FULL, SO YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, I'LL BE DONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY.
SO NOW I THINK WE'RE, NOW I THINK WE'RE READY TO RESTATE AND THEN TRY TO GIVE THIS A ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE BE DISSOLVED.
THAT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SLASH OPERATIONS MANUAL AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE CAN BE REAUTHORIZED WITH ITS CURRENT MEMBERSHIP AND THAT THE FEES AND CHARGES AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE BE CREATED WITH FOUR MEMBERS.
AND THAT THOSE FOUR WERE ANDERSON, RICHIE MALL AND FITZGERALD FIT.
I THINK WE'RE, WE WILL FIGURE THIS OUT HERE.
THE AD HOC IS A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR US.
ALRIGHT, UM, MOVE ON NOW TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. AND, UM, OKAY.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO WITH THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS NOW IS FINE.
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BEEN HERE IN THE PUBLIC FOR THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS BEFORE JOINING THE COMMITTEE, A LONG TIME AGO, YOU WERE NOT HERE AND SOMEONE FILLED IN FOR YOU.AND I RAISED THIS ISSUE BEFORE.
AND THE SUBJECT MATTER IS I BOOK A TEE TIME AT EIGHT 10 AND I SHOW UP AND THERE'S AN, THERE'S A, AN 8 0 5 AND AN EIGHT 15 AND I GET PUSHED TO EIGHT 20 OR EIGHT 30.
UM, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND IT, LAST SUNDAY, I HAVE MANY EXAMPLES, BUT LAST SUNDAY PLAYED SKY LINKS.
AND WHEN WE GOT OUT IN THE COURSE, IT PLAYED, IT PLAYED IN OVER FIVE HOURS.
WHAT TIME WAS YOUR G TIME? SEVEN 50 OVER FIVE HOURS.
AND THE AMBASSADORS, THE PEOPLE AT THE FRONT DESK TAKING THE MONEY AND EVERYONE THAT WORKS THERE, 'CAUSE I PLAYED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE ALL, THEY ALL WERE LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? ALL THE TEE TIMES GOT PUSHED FIVE HOUR ROUND.
AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS THAT AMERICAN GOLF INSERTED THREE TEE TIMES BETWEEN SIX AND NINE.
AND THEN THERE WAS TWO MORE BEING ADDED AFTER 10 O'CLOCK.
AND IT'S LITERALLY SLOWED DOWN THE WHOLE COURSE.
MY, MY GARMIN, MY UM, GPS WATCH SHUT OFF.
'CAUSE IT DIDN'T EVEN THINK I WAS PLAYING.
I MEAN, IT WAS PRETTY EGREGIOUS.
SO IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOREVER.
AND WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME IN, IN DISCUSSION, EVERYONE WAS LIKE, THE RESPONSE WAS, WELL, IT HAPPENS OCCASIONALLY, WE MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT I MEAN, LAST SUNDAY WAS ONE WEEK AGO.
AND WHAT'S AFFECTING PACE? I DON'T THAT WELL HUGELY, BUT THEY ADDED THREE IN THE MORNING AND EVERYONE THERE THAT WORKED THERE IS GETTING IT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO THAT THEY SHOW UP FOR THEIR TEE TIME AND, AND YOU SEE IT, THEY'RE LIKE, I HAVE A TEE TIME.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 20 MINUTES OR HALF AN HOUR OR WHATEVER.
AND IT JUST CREATES YOUR, THE EMPLOYEES ARE IN A REALLY BAD SPOT.
SO, UM, AND AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS WEEK WE, I HAVE TEE TIMES AT LDO, NOT ME.
OH, I HAVE A TEE TIME, BUT MY FRIENDS, WE HAVE 7 40, 7 58 AND EIGHT 10.
AND SO WE JUST HAPPENED TO GET THOSE TEE TIMES.
IT'S ONCE IN A LIFETIME, LIKE WINNING IN THE LOTTERY AND THERE'S CAMARADERIE WITH THAT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY'LL WHAT KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA SPLIT THAT.
WELL, THEY, NO, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW.
BUT WE, THIS HAPPENED, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED ON SUNDAY.
WE HAD ALL THESE TEE TIMES, THERE WAS FOUR, FOUR TEE TIMES THAT WE HAD AND THEN THEY SPLIT AND PUT OTHER PEOPLE IN BETWEEN US.
AND THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET TEE TIMES.
UM, AND THEN WE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE GUY AND SAY, WELL, LET'S RESHUFFLE AND EITHER LET THOSE, LET THOSE PEOPLE GO BEFORE OR AFTER US SO WE CAN KEEP OUR FOUR TEE TIMES OR THREE TEE TIMES TOGETHER.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE THIS SUNDAY AT, AT LDO.
YOU'LL SEE MY NAME AT SEVEN 50 AND THEN I HAVE AN EIGHT 10 FRIEND AND AN EIGHT 20.
THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR TEE TIMES AND WE WANNA PLAY ALL BACK TO BACK, SO, OKAY.
BUT, UH, I'LL CHECK IT OUT THIS WEEKEND AND LAST WEEKEND, BUT YEAH.
YOU, YOU YOU'LL, THE THE ISSUE LAST WEEK WAS THAT THEY INSERTED THREE IN THE MORNING AND TWO, TWO, LIKE AFTER 10.
SO THEY ADDED FIVE FOURSOMES, UH, AND THEY, AND THEY ALL GO IN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT THE OH FIVES.
BUT SOMETIMES MY, MY EIGHT 10 WILL GET PUSHED EIGHT 15, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN YOU SHOW UP AND, AND, AND LIKE ON SUNDAY AT SKY LINKS, EVERYTHING GOT PUSHED OFF BY, I MEAN, I MEAN WE TEED OFF, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTES LATE, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, FIVE HOURS YEAH.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT HOW, HOW THAT'S USED OR HOW YOU GUYS MANAGE THAT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE COME TO TOWN AND THERE'S IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET OUT AND ALL THAT
AND HE CAME OUT AND HE'S LIKE, AND HE'S LIKE, HEY.
AND I HAD EXPLAINED TO HIM LIKE, THEY, THEY PUT YOU, YOU KNOW, HE, THEY TOOK MY TEE TIME AMERICAN GOLF OVER THERE AND MOVED IT AND PUT AND, AND DROPPED THIS GUY IN.
HE TOLD US, OH YEAH, I CALLED YESTERDAY.
I CALLED A FRIEND YESTERDAY AND, AND HE GOT HIS TEE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND 12 HOURS.
OKAY, WELL HE'S IN THE KNOW AND, AND KNOW SOMEBODY CAN HELP HIM.
ARE ONE AN HOUR OR ONE AND A HALF HOUR OR THREE HOURS? NO, IT'S ONE EVERY LIKE TWO HOURS.
IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT IS LAST SUNDAY, THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THAT DON'T USUALLY PLAY ON THAT WEEKEND, BUT SINCE IT WAS THANKSGIVING WEEKEND YEAH.
AND, AND THERE'S NEWBIES AND WE'RE TOLD, HEY, WE WANT TO, WE, WE, IT'S, THEY'RE LIKE, DON'T WORRY, IT'S NOT GONNA SLOW THE PACE DOWN, BUT LIKE LAST SUNDAY IT WAS, IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
SO WHATEVER HAPPENED AT SKY LINKS LAST SUNDAY IS MY RECENT EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS.
AND SOME OF THE GUYS I PLAY WITH ARE LIKE, LIKE THAT GUY IN THE CROSSWALK, HE GOES, BERSERKO, THEY'RE LIKE, I'M LIKE, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT OUT ON THE PEOPLE AT THE COUNTER.
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OKAY WITH THAT.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS.
WE'RE THAT, I GUESS AT, WITH NOTHING ELSE GOING ONCE.
UM, ADJOURNMENT CALLED AT 3 28.