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MR. LELAND, COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL COMMISSION CHAIR MURRAY HERE.AND I BELIEVE BOTH GORDANA AND AVIS HAVE TOLD US THERE OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT THEY HAD THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME.
SO LET'S PLEASE MARK THEM AS EXCUSED.
WE'LL START WITH OUR REGULAR AGENDA AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
YOU CAN VOTE IF YOU DEEM IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT OR YOU CAN LY IN FACT, WE HAVE THE BRAIN TRUST OF PEOPLE THAT WILL TELL US THAT
SO THERE'S A, A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, WHICH FOLLOWS THEN WITH A DISCUSSION.
ANYBODY OTHER THAN THAT, ANY INPUT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS DISTRIBUTED? AYE.
OPPOSED? DID YOU WANNA ABSTAIN? I'LL ABSTAIN.
ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, RECOMMENDATION AND TO RECEIVE AND FILE OF PRESENTATION FROM THE OFFICE OF ETHICS TRANSPARENCY.
AND THAT IS OUR ANNUAL UPDATE.
LET'S PROCEED WITH THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, SO I AM REVISITING MOST OF YOU I'VE MET.
I'M THE ETHICS OFFICER FOR THE CITY OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
I MANAGE THE, WHAT IS NOW THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY.
SUPPOSED TO BE WITH ME AS JEFF WILLIAMS FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
HE'S RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE.
UM, BUT THE MAYOR THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THESE UPDATES FROM THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY.
SO IT'LL BE AN ANNUAL UPDATE, SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG.
AND THAT WILL BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO NEXT YOU GET THE BROWN ACT.
UM, BUT ALL OF THIS SHOULD JUST BE A REFRESHER FOR YOU.
AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE AN ETHICS COMMISSION NOW THAT VOTERS APPROVED IN 2018.
WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE CENTRALIZED ETHICS PROGRAM.
UM, WE LAUNCHED OUR TRAINING PROGRAM IN 2023, WHICH YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR, WE OFFICIALLY BROUGHT THE ETHICS PROGRAM AND THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT PROGRAM TOGETHER TO BECOME THE OET.
WE JUST FINISHED, UM, WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT ON A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC ROADMAP.
SO THE OET IS CURRENTLY, UM, PUTTING THAT INTO AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND WE'LL, UH, START OPERATIONALIZING THAT, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR MAYOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE AUDITOR, THE CLERK AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
SO, I TALKED TO SOME OF YOU LAST YEAR AS WE STARTED GETTING ALL OF THESE TRAININGS OUT.
THERE'S A FEW REQUIRED TRAININGS NOW THAT YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN BY NOW.
UM, SO JUST A REMINDER THAT AB 1234 IS A BIENNIAL ETHICS TRAINING THAT THE STATE REQUIRES.
THE CITY NOW HAS THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND ETHICS TRAINING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ANNUALLY.
UM, TAMLIN HAS, UH, A A LITTLE, THIS LITTLE REFRESHER CARD IF WE CAN RESEND THAT OUT, BUT IT JUST EXPLAINS TO YOU THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE TWO ETHICS TRAININGS, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CAUSED THE CONFUSION LAST YEAR AS WE RULED OUT BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, WE ARE STARTING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN REMOVING COMMISSIONERS FOR NON-COMPLIANCE AND TRAININGS.
UH, LAST YEAR WE DID REMO, WE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REMOVED, UH, SEVEN COMMISSIONERS FOR NON-COMPLIANCE.
UH, SO WE DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE MAYOR, UM, THAT THESE TRAININGS, UH, GET DONE.
AND THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE EQUITY TOOLKIT TRAINING.
WE HAD TO SWITCH TO A HELPLINE OUTSIDE.
LAST TIME I WAS HERE, WE WERE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AUDITOR.
THAT DIDN'T KIND OF WORK THE WAY WE WERE HOPING IT WAS TECHNOLOGY WISE.
SO WE HAVE OUR, THE ETHICS OFFICE HAS THEIR OWN HELPLINE.
NOW IT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, AND I'VE GOT PLENTY OF INFORMATION, UM, IF YOU EVER WANNA CALL AND CHAT MORE ABOUT THE HELPLINE.
UM, BUT IT IS GETTING USED MORE AND MORE BY, UM, EMPLOYEES MOSTLY.
SO WORD IS GETTING OUT THAT OUR OFFICE EXISTS, WHICH IS GOOD.
OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND FOR COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE OUR HOMEPAGE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S
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OFFICE.THE CLERK MANAGES THEIR ETHICS PORTAL THAT'S REALLY, UM, UH, HODGEPODGE OF STATE RESOURCES.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR FRAUD HOTLINE THAT THE CITY AUDITOR MANAGES.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT HANDBOOKS, UH, THAT INCLUDING OUR ETHICS GUIDE AND THE ETHICS GUIDE.
JUST A REMINDER THAT THAT, UM, IS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED, UM, TO ABIDE BY AS COMMISSIONERS US AS, UH, PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND STAFF.
UM, AND THEN THE BROWN ACT, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD GUIDE IF YOU EVER WANT TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE.
AND THEN OUR COMMISSION HANDBOOK, WE TRY TO KEEP THAT UPDATED AND CURRENT.
UM, I THINK SOMETIMES WE FORGET WE HAVE THAT HANDBOOK THAT CAN ANSWER A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS, MYSELF INCLUDED.
AND THEN JUST REMINDERS, UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE NEXT ITEM.
AND ANITA BRIEFS, YOU, UM, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS POP UP LAST YEAR ABOUT MISUSE OF AUTHORITY WITH DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS.
UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT SPEAKING IN OFFICIAL CAPACITY VERSUS PERSONAL CAPACITY, WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING AS A COMMISSIONER OR REPRESENTING YOURSELF IN ANY WAY AS A COMMISSIONER, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED FIRST BY YOUR COMMISSION.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SUPPORT A CAUSE OR A LETTER THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PETITION GOING AROUND AND YOU CAN'T SAY, AS COMMISSIONER OF THE MAC, I SUPPORT THIS.
THE WHOLE COMMISSION HAS TO SUBMIT THAT.
RIGHT? SO JUST BE VERY CAREFUL.
THAT INCLUDES YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS.
I KNOW THAT WE ALL, IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE A COMMISSIONER AND WE, UM, WE TEND TO LIKE TO SHARE THAT.
SO JUST BE MINDFUL WHEN YOU'RE SHARING ANNUAL REPORTS.
UM, WE ARE GETTING MORE PROACTIVE TOO ON THOSE, THOSE ARE DUE IN JUNE FOR COMMISSIONS.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE A LEARN CONCERN, THAT'S WHERE YOUR TRAININGS LIVE.
THIS IS THE DIRECT EMAIL FROM THAT SUPPORT FORM 700 REMINDER.
UM, YOU GUYS NEED TO GET THOSE DONE BY APRIL 1ST.
I'M SURE THE CLERK IS ALREADY REACHING OUT.
AND THEN AGAIN, ANITA WILL GO OVER THIS, BUT WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH BROWN ACT BYLAWS AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
UM, I DID GET A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT GIFTS, UM, THAT THE CHAIR ASKED ME TO TOUCH ON.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT RULES AND REQUIREMENTS AROUND GIFTS AND THE ABILITY FOR STAFF TO ACCEPT GIFTS AND GIVE GIFTS.
UM, THE FPPC, THE STATE HAS THEIR SET OF RULES THAT IS SPECIFIC TO FORM 700 FILERS.
BUT THAT LEAVES OUT EVERY, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF US THAT AREN'T FORM 700 FILERS.
SO THE CITY HAS ADMINISTERED THE REGULATION EIGHT DASH TWO, WHICH TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, AND JUST MADE A, A BLANKET REGULATION THAT STAFF CANNOT ACCEPT GIFTS, NO MATTER THE MONETARY VALUE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OR COULD BE AT SOME POINT DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
SO IF SOMEONE BRINGS IN A REALLY LOVELY GIFT BASKET AND TODD HAS TO TURN IT AWAY, AND I, IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE.
IT'S, I WAS TELLING THE CHAIR, IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF STRESSFUL SOMETIMES.
FOR EMPLOYEES TO GET GIFTS, UM, AND NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.
UM, WE ARE WORKING ON AN AR PROJECT, GOING TO UPDATE ALL OF OUR ARS AND THAT'LL BE ONE THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THEIR LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT MORE SO IT'S CLEAR AND EASIER FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT YOUR COOKIES.
WAS THE WORD TRICKY? WELL, IT IS JUST THAT IT COULD BE GRAY.
IT'S HARD, IT'S TRICKY TO UNDERSTAND.
AND REALLY, ETHICS SHOULDN'T BE WITH GRAY AREAS.
WELL, THAT'S ALL ETHICS ADDRESSES REALLY ARE
SO THAT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WEREN'T THE TRICKY GRAY AREAS, I WOULDN'T HAVE A JOB.
BUT I AGREE IT SHOULD BE EASIER FOR ALL.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S CLEAR ABSOLUTELY.
TO THE COMMUNITY AS, UM, I'M NOT DOUBTING OUR STAFF OR COMMISSIONERS AT ALL BECAUSE WE'VE, IT'S BEEN BOUND INTO US WITH TRAINING MM-HMM
BUT WE DON'T WANNA PUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN AN AWKWARD SITUATION.
AND THAT, THOSE ARE, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK THAT WE ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE GET AS WE REALLY BUILD OUT THIS PROGRAM, STUFF LIKE THAT IS HELPFUL.
MY, MY LAST EMPLOYER, UH, UM, 45 YEARS THAT WE HAD TO GO BLACK AND WHITE, NO GRAY AREA.
AND IT WAS AMAZING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT GOT USED TO HAVING THAT GRAY AREA OF TICKETS, HEY, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU TO THE SUPER BOWL.
AND THIS WAS, THEY HAVE SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OTHER.
WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT TAKING THE ENTIRE UPS FAMILY TO THE SUPER BOWL, WE CAN'T ACCEPT IT.
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IT WAS THAT, THAT SIMPLE WITH A TOUGH YES, UH, FOR A COMPANY LIKE THAT TO GO FORWARD, BUT WORKING WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, WE HAD TO DO IT THAT WAY.UM, I MAKE REALLY, REALLY GOOD COOKIES.
BUT SEE, EVEN THAT CAN GET, LIKE, I'VE GOT MY COMMISSIONERS THAT WANTED TO TAKE US ALL OUT FOR A LOVELY CHRISTMAS DINNER THAT I, I SHIED AWAY FROM AND SAID, OKAY, GOOD TO KNOW.
SHE'S VERY, VERY GOOD AT, AT, AT AND REALLY EXPLAIN TO US.
AND THESE TWO RIGHT HERE, I GOTTA TELL YOU, UM, YOU'LL NEVER SEE COMMISSIONERS, UH, ON THAT LIST THAT WE LOSE OUR COMMISSIONS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING WE'VE DONE IN REGARDS TO ETHICS.
SO, UH, UH, I ASSURE YOU THAT, AND TO YOUR POINT, IF, IF I COULD HAVE EVERYTHING IN BLACK AND WHITE YEAH.
AND HARD TO DO, JUST KNOW ACROSS, TRUST ME, THAT WOULD MAKE ALL OF OUR LIVES A LOT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T AROUND ANYMORE BECAUSE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'S GREAT.
WELL, THERE WERE SOME GLITCHES ON THE TRAINING.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IM WAY OVERDUE BECAUSE I KEEP TRYING TO LOG ON AND I KEEP GETTING AN ERROR MESSAGE.
AND THERE ISN'T, OH, THERE'S NO, THIS IS WHO YOU CONTACT AND SOMETIMES EVEN IF YOU DO, YOU DON'T, YOU BACK.
AND THAT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR ETHICS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
I THINK IT'S THE ETHICS TRAINING THAT IT'S THE GLITCH FOR MONTHS, FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.
AND, AND THE HELPLINE THAT'S ON THERE, NOBODY ANSWERS THAT.
REALLY, THERE'S A NUMBER, I HAVE A, AN EMAIL THAT SAYS FROM NEO GOVERNMENT THAT SAYS, YOU'RE DUE ON THIS AND THIS AND THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT THIS, THIS NUMBER.
I WOULD, I WOULD DO THE LEARN SUPPORT THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO A SMALL TEAM OF CITY STAFF, BUT THAT IS PART OF THEIR ROLE.
IS THAT AN YOGA FOLKS? NO, IT'S CITY FOLKS.
NEOGA IS WHO WE CONTRACT WITH.
WELL, I CALL THE FIVE SEVEN ZERO NUMBER.
AND ALL, ALL I GET IS A RECORDING OF THIS PERSON THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
WE WILL, WE'LL COORDINATE WITH HEATHER AND HER GROUP, AND WE'LL GET THE NAMES OF ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE, WITH THE PORTAL, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE, RIGHT.
'CAUSE WHAT'S BETTER THAN FIXING THE HELP LINE IS MAKING IT SO THE FORM WORKS IN THE PERSON WE DON'T WANT MOVED.
UM, BEFORE JEFF WILLIAMS, WHO I SAID WOULD BE JOINING ME IN A MINUTE, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT HE WAS HERE, JEFF, I WAS JUST TELLING THEM THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE MAYOR THAT WE CONTINUE THE ETHICS UPDATES ANNUALLY.
UM, AND THAT YOU WERE A PART OF, UH, THAT ROAD SHOW WITH ME, UM, JUST AS A MEMBER OF THE MAYOR'S TEAM.
THIS IS A SUPERSTAR COMMISSION AND A GREAT STAFF.
I JOINED HEATHER, WE STARTED DOING THIS LAST YEAR.
UH, REALLY, UH, JUST WANTED TO FIRST EXPRESS HOW THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, UH, GIVEN YOUR TIME, THE MAYOR REALLY APPRECIATES HAVING THESE GROUPS THAT RESIDENTS WANNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
UM, AND, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE HEATHER.
SHE'S REALLY STEPPED UP AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION STAFF AND TRY TO STREAMLINE SOME, SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND QUESTIONS.
SO PLEASE KEEP GIVING US FEEDBACK ON HOW WE CAN MAKE THINGS BETTER.
UM, BUT WE'VE STARTED DOING SOME TRAININGS THAT HOPEFULLY THAT'S GONNA HELP OUR INSIDE TEAM AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY OUR JOB IS JUST TO, TO LISTEN AND BE SUPPORTIVE.
UM, SO IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM US, I, I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF YOU ALL THE TIME.
LISTEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I KNOW IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK, WORKING ON STATE OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR YOU, TUESDAY TO TAKE THE TIME, I GIVE A COMMERCIAL TUESDAY, EVERYBODY COMES AND STAY
UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT I KNOW THAT YOUR OFFICE HAS BEEN COORDINATING IS, UM, FILLING OPEN COMMISSIONER SPOTS.
WE'RE GOING TO, SO, UH, DON'T WANT SAY OUT LOUD AND PUT THE EXACT DATE, BUT I'M AIMING FOR THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS OF FEBRUARY TO DO THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE, THE CURRENT VACANCY THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR PUBLIC, ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE THIS OR ANOTHER COMMISSION, UM, PLEASE, PLEASE APPLY AND FEEL FREE TO GIVE ME A CALL AND HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT IT.
BUT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO POST THE, THE NEW VACANCY, BUT THERE IS ONE ON THE MARINE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION THAT WE ARE GONNA NEED TO FILL IN FEBRUARY.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
SO I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A WHILE AND THERE HAS BEEN, SO I DON'T, WON'T BE ON IT TOO MUCH LONGER.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PAST COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE REALLY GOOD.
ONCE YOU'RE OFF THE COMMISSION, IS THERE A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE SOMEONE CAN APPLY AGAIN? THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME.
DO I KNOW WHAT? I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW WHAT THAT IS RIGHT OFF MY HEAD, BUT THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME CAN APPLY.
YEAH, YOU CAN, I I DO KNOW YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO ANOTHER COMMISSION.
LIKE WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS WHO ENJOY SERVING AND THEIR EXPERTISE FOR PASSIONS AND THEY'RE IN OTHER AREAS.
AND SO WE'VE MOVED THEM ONTO OTHER COMMISSIONS.
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BUT I THINK GOING BACK TO THE SAME COMMISSION, THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME I CAN FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS FOR.I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S JUST FOUR YEAR POPPED IN MY HEAD.
I DON'T, I SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW THAT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS ONE TERM THAT YOU HAVE TO STAY OFF IT FOR ONE TERM, THAT SENSE.
UH, AND THEN YOU CAN REAPPLY, NOT GUARANTEE THAT YOU WOULD GET THAT COMMISSION AGAIN.
IT'S JUST THAT YOU GO BACK INTO THE POOL FOR IT.
IS THE TERM, THREE YEARS FOR US.
BUT YOU CAN DO FOUR TIMES, FOUR TIMES FOUR, TWO YEARS, EIGHT YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEATHER OR JEFF? THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE.
ANY, ANYTHING FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THEN WHAT WAS SAID? YES.
JUST JEFF, MY APPLICATIONS IN
I KNOW WE DEFINITELY WANT A, UH, BONE ORDER CONTINGENT TO BE REPRESENTED.
I'M THE ONE THAT'S THE VOTE OWNER.
UH, SO LET'S, LET'S CLOSE OUT THAT PRESENTATION AND, AND APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FILE THE REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED.
MOVING ON, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION FOR THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE BROWN ACT.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY ANITA ANI, UH, TO PRESENT ON THE BROWN ACT.
UM, MY NAME IS ANITA LANIE, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
UM, I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AND BEFORE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OTHER MUNICIPAL ENTITIES.
SO TODAY OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TAGGING ALONG WITH THE ETHICS ROAD SHOW,
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE BROWN ACT, WHICH IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED ON WHAT EXACTLY IS THE REASON WE HAVE TO LEARN ALL ABOUT THIS.
SO, UM, ABOUT OVER 50 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SCRUTINY AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WERE DOING EVERYTHING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
SO THE IDEA NOW IS UNDER THE RALPH AND BROWN ACT IS TO HAVE EVERYTHING OUT IN THE OPEN, AND IT'S NICKNAMED AS A SUNSHINE LAW.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE, UM, SHINING ON CITY BUSINESS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.
UH, WHAT ARE THE GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF THE RALPH F. BROWN ACT.
UH, THE IDEA IS THAT ALL COMMISSION MEETINGS LIKE THE MAC NEED TO BE OPEN AND PUBLIC SO THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITNESS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THEY'RE ABLE TO PUBLICLY PARTICIPATE AND THEY CAN SEE THAT ALL OF THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE MAC ARE DELIBERATED IN PUBLIC IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO THEY CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.
IF WE DO EVERYTHING IN PUBLIC, THEY PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND THEN WITNESS THE VOTES THAT ARE HAPPENING.
A MEETING IS, UM, OFFICIALLY OPEN ONCE A MAJORITY OF THE M MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
SO WE NEED A QUORUM TO START A MEETING.
AND ONCE YOU HAVE A MAJORITY, YOU CAN HAVE THE M MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, BEGIN.
UH, EVERYONE IS ALLOWED TO COME TO ANY MAC MEETING AND PARTICIPATE.
AND ONLY MATTERS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA CAN BE DISCUSSED.
SO THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT TODAY.
SO, WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT? UH, MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, BUT ALSO CITY COUNCIL.
ANY SUBCOMMITTEES OF ANY, UM, COMMISSIONS THAT ARE CREATED BY THE COUNCIL.
UH, ANY OTHER BOARDS AND ANY CHARTERED, UM, COMMISSIONS AS WELL.
FORTUNATELY, SOME TEMPORARY AD HOC COMMITTEES DO NOT NEED TO FOLLOW, UH, THE BROWN ACT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST TEMPORARY IN NATURE AND THEY'RE LESS THAN A QUORUM.
SO KEEP IN MIND, UM, EVERYONE ELSE OTHER THAN TEMPORARY AD HOCS ESSENTIALLY NEED TO FOLLOW THE BRU ACT.
IF WE'RE WORKING ON OUR ANNUAL REPORT AND WE HAVE A A, A COMMITTEE WORKING THROUGH ON THAT, DO THE, DOES THE THE WHIP NEED TO THEN BE PUBLIC? OR CAN THAT BE, IF WE'RE COLLABORATING TO TURN OUT A PRODUCT? SO IF IT'S A TEMPORARY IN NATURE PRODUCT AND THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A CLOSEOUT DATE, ESSENTIALLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT DATE, BUT YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED, THAT AD HOC WILL THEN DISBAND, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A TEMPORARY
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AD HOC COMMITTEE.NOW, THERE MIGHT BE A STANDING COMMITTEE SUCH AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION HAS, UM, AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND A, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE MEETS EVERY MONTH.
SO THAT ONE IS A BROWN ACT BODY.
THEY POST AN AGENDA, UM, AND THEY FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT.
BUT IF IT'S TEMPORARY, AGAIN, THAT CAN, THAT DOES NOT NEED TO FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT.
AND THAT'S ALSO TO CREATE LIKE EFFICIENCY FOR THAT AD HOC TO MEET WHEN THEY CAN AND, YOU KNOW, CLOSE OUT THE PROJECT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
SO, SO ARE YOU READING THAT, THAT WE'RE OKAY IF WE'RE WORKING THE ANNUAL REPORT TO COLLABORATE WITH MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AS WE'RE EDITING THROUGH ON THE DOCUMENT? YEAH.
SORRY, I DON'T NATURE OF IT, BUT, UM, SOUNDS RIGHT TO ME.
YEAH,
SO THE MAIN NITTY GRITTY PART OF THIS PRESENTATION IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT CAN MAC COMMISSION MEMBERS NOT DO?
SO SOMETIMES ONE COMMISSION MEMBER MIGHT END UP TALKING TO ANOTHER, AND IT ENDS UP THAT A QUORUM IS ACTUALLY SPEAKING ABOUT MAC BUSINESS.
SO IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT FOUR TYPES OF DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE PROHIBITED.
ONE IS CALLED HUB AND SPOKE DAISY CHAIN BY YOUR REPRESENTATIVE OR THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE, UM, IN MORE DETAIL HERE.
THE FIRST ONE HERE IS CALLED HUB AND SPOKE, UM, WHERE ONE MEMBER IS CONTACTING EVERY MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE, ARE YOU GONNA VOTE YES TOMORROW? ARE YOU, ARE YOU GONNA VOTE YES TOMORROW TOO? AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING OF A, B, C, AND D.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMISSION BUSINESS.
AND YOU'VE NOW SPOKEN TO A MAJORITY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN OPEN AND PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY DELIBERATING ON AN ITEM.
NUMBER TWO IS THE DAISY CHAIN.
UM, YOU HAVE MEMBER BLUE, LET'S CALL IT CALLS MEMBER GREEN, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MAC BUSINESS AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THEN MEMBER GREEN CALLS MEMBER ORANGE, AND THEN MEMBER ORANGE AND SAID, OH, MEMBER P, WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND SO NOW WE HAVE FOUR OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TALKING.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BROWN ACT MEETING WITH A FULL ON AGENDA.
SO YOU WANNA AVOID, UM, HAVING THOSE ISSUES.
ALSO, UH, THE THIRD OF THE FOUR IS BY REPRESENTATIVE.
LET'S SAY YOU'RE AT A PARTY OR YOU'RE AT A, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING, OR YOU'RE GENERALLY JUST IN THE PUBLIC AND MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PARTNER OR A SPOUSE WHO'S TALKING ON YOUR BEHALF ABOUT THE MAC COMMISSION BUSINESS.
NOW THEY MIGHT BE, UH, TALKING TO A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THE PARTY.
UH, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO IT, BUT A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOU IS DOING IT, IT STILL COUNTS.
THE LAST ONE HERE IS, UM, VERY POPULAR NOWADAYS, RIGHT? WITH TEXT MESSAGES, SOCIAL MEDIA, EMAILS, EVEN, UM, MESSAGES VIA FACEBOOK.
YOU ARE MESSAGING ONE COMMISSIONER ABOUT COMMISSION BUSINESS.
UH, THE OTHER ONE MIGHT, UH, FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE, UH, AND THEN IT MIGHT BE FORWARDED AGAIN.
NOW YOU HAVE A MAJORITY, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN PERSON.
UM, IT IS STILL A RECORD CREATED IN THE CLOUD THAT CREATED FOUR OR MORE, UM, OR THREE OR MORE, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS TALKING.
UM, THIS IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT AND YOU MIGHT BE ADVOCATING FOR SOMETHING AND YOU POST A STATUS OR YOU POST JUST A GENERAL POST.
UM, IF PEOPLE END UP LIKING YOUR POST AND YOU'RE SPEAKING AS A COMMISSIONER AND SOMEONE COMMENTS AND THEN SOMEONE COMMENTS AGAIN, YOU ALSO MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CREATING A MAJORITY WHERE THESE COMMUNICATIONS, ALTHOUGH VERY LIKE, UH, YOU'RE NOT REALLY TALKING, BUT YOU ARE COMMUNICATING IN SOME WAY OR FORM.
SO IT'S JUST BEST TO AVOID THESE SITUATIONS AND HAVE ALL COMMISSION BUSINESS SPOKEN ABOUT DURING AN OPEN AND PUBLIC MEETING.
SO WHAT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT? UH, YOU COULD TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES AS COMMISSIONERS.
UM, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY DELIBERATIONS.
SO YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE TOPICS.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP.
YOU COULD SPEAK ABOUT, HEY, WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE SLIP FEE? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DELIBERATE, JUST AVOID IT ENTIRELY.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING AGAINST THE BARN ACT.
UM, YOU ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO TALK TO MEMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UM, THAT'S NOT PROHIBITED TO SPEAK TO CONSTITUENTS, STAFF, COLLEAGUES, UM, JUST AS LONG AS YOU KEEP YOUR DELIBERATIONS OUT OF IT.
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THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THERE AREN'T ANY LIKE REPRESENTATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION OR USING YOUR COMMISSION NAME, UM, FOR THE WRONG PURPOSE.UM, SO AGAIN, YOU CAN BE AT A BIRTHDAY PARTY, YOU CAN HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION'S PRESENT.
EVERYONE CAN BE THERE AS LONG AS YOU'RE JUST NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMISSION BUSINESS.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST CLERICAL ITEMS HERE.
ALL OF THE AGENDAS THAT YOU HAVE POSTED ARE REQUIRED TO BE POSTED 72 HOURS BEFORE A MEETING.
AND CITY STAFF IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT GETTING THOSE OUT ON TIME.
SO NO WORRIES FROM OUR OFFICE ON THOSE.
AND THEN IF THERE HAPPENED TO BE A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO BRING A SPECIAL EMERGENCY ITEM, OR A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING SUPER EMERGENT OR REALLY SPECIAL, UH, THERE IS AN AUTHORITY TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND YOU COULD PUT THE AGENDA OUT 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
WHAT NEEDS TO GO IN THE AGENDA? GENERALLY JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS SO THE PUBLIC KNOW IF THEY WANNA COME AND TALK ABOUT IT OR HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT IT.
UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE DATE, TIME AND THE LOCATION.
IT MUST BE WITHIN LONG BEACH JURISDICTION.
UM, AND IT HAS TO BE POSTED PUBLICLY.
SO ALL THAT GOES THROUGH CITY STAFF.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT STUFF.
AND THEN I ALREADY TOUCHED ON MEETINGS NEEDING TO BE HELD WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, AND THE MEETINGS NEED TO BE ACCESSIBLE UNDER THE A DA.
SO, UM, WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS OF THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU'RE AT THE MAC MEETINGS? UM, THE PUBLIC HAVE A RIGHT TO COMMENT.
THEY CAN RECORD, THEY CAN USE THEIR PHONE, THEY CAN USE AUDIO.
UM, THEY CAN REVIEW ALL OF THE AGENDAS, ALL OF THE WRITINGS AND PAPERWORK THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDAS OR THAT WERE FORMULATED TO CREATE THOSE DECISIONS.
AND THEY CAN ATTEND WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, RSVP.
WE CANNOT REQUIRE AN RSVP TO THE MAC MEETING, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO WITNESS VOTES.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY SECRET BALLOTS.
SO WHY DOES THIS ALL MATTER? AND, YOU KNOW, WHY AM I HERE TODAY? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S POTENTIAL THAT ANY VIOLATIONS OF THE BROWN ACT COULD BE, UH, A CIVIL PENALTY OR A CRIMINAL PENALTY, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
SO, UH, UNDER THIS A CIVIL ACTION, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH COULD BE ANY INTERESTED BODY, CAN ACTUALLY BRING A LAWSUIT AGAINST, UM, ANY COMMISSIONER FOR A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT.
SO ANYBODY ESSENTIALLY COULD BRING THIS LAWSUIT AND IT, UM, THEY WOULD BE AWARDED THEIR COSTS AND ATTORNEY'S FEES FOR BRINGING THAT SUIT IF THEY WERE TO WIN.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE CRIMINAL VIOLATION COMPONENT.
IT COULD BE PUNISHABLE UP TO A MISDEMEANOR, UM, IF THERE IS EVEN ONE VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT, AS LONG AS THE PROSECUTOR CAN PROVE THERE WAS INTENT TO DEPRIVE PUBLIC INFORMATION.
UM, YOU HAVE CITY STAFF HERE TO SUPPORT YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ON ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ALSO HERE TO ASSIST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BROWN ACT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY.
COULD YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF WHAT A SPECIAL MEETING WOULD BE THAT WOULD PERMIT THAT 24 HOUR TURNAROUND? SO, LET'S SEE.
UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN'T REALLY THINK OF ONE, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING MAYBE COMING UP, UH, MAYBE A STATE GRANT DEADLINE.
MAYBE THERE'S, UM, AND MAYBE CITY STAFF HAVE AN EXAMPLE, BUT IF IT'S NOT REGULAR BUSINESS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY SPECIAL, MUST BE SOLVED IMMEDIATELY UNDER THE MAC.
UM, THAT'S WHERE THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE WITH SOME SHORT TURNAROUND ON OLYMPIC EVENTS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON NOW MM-HMM
UM, THAT RELATE TO THAT WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, THAT THERE'S HEARINGS AND THINGS THAT I COULD SEE AND THE NEED FOR A, A SHORT TURNAROUND YEAH.
IT'S SUPER RARE, UM, THAT WE EVEN SEE THOSE.
UM, IT, IT MAY BE THAT, UM, THEY HAPPEN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE BODY, OF COURSE.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF COULD TYPICALLY GET THOSE OUT 72 HOURS BEFORE AND PLAN AHEAD FOR THE MONTH.
UM, SO IT'S VERY RARE TO SEE IT WITH COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES AND BOARDS.
UM, WE, SOME, WE MAYBE SEE IT A FEW TIMES A YEAR ONLY WITH CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
I WOULD GIVE THE BEST EXAMPLE FOR THAT WOULD BE THE NEED FOR AN IMMEDIATE APPEAL HEARING ON A, UH, PERMIT CANCELLATION.
RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S IN YOUR, THAT'S CLEARLY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK.
AND IT WOULD CLEARLY HAVE A SHORT TURNAROUND.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON ANYTHING? I JUST HAVE TO SAY THEY, THEY HOLD US
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PRETTY MUCH ACCOUNTABLE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, UH, WE DON'T DO GROUP EMAILS ANYMORE, UNLESS IT'S HI, MERRY CHRISTMAS.UM, IT IS, UH, UH, WE DON'T DISCUSS ISSUES.
UH, WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE BEST CHAIRMANS I THINK WE'VE EVER HAD.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TOO IS YOU, YOU MENTIONED ON THIS THAT, UH, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY COME IN UNLESS THEY'RE GETTING UP AND THEY'RE PRESENTING AND TALKING.
THAT'S WHEN THEY DO NEED TO STATE, STATE THEIR NAME, CORRECT, MM-HMM
SO IF ANYONE HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT, IF EVERYONE, IF ANYONE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO STAND UP TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE THEIR NAME.
UM, BUT ONLY LIKE INSTANCES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE PRESENTING AND, YOU KNOW, SAY, HEY, I'M ANITA.
BUT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DON'T HAVE TO STATE THEIR NAME.
I, I JUST, YEAH, I, I SEE THAT IN OTHER, OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST GET UP AND TALK AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO STATE THAT.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT HERE, SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
IT'S COMMON PRACTICE HERE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
MAYBE YOU SAY WHAT DISTRICT YOU'RE IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE CAN'T LEGALLY OBLIGATE.
SO IF THEY WANT, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
IF PEOPLE WANNA MAKE IT, IF THEY ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON ANYTHING THAT I NEED TO PRESENT, PLEASE STAND AND STATE YOUR NAME.
LET'S CLOSE OUT HER REPORT BY, UH, UH, CALLING FOR THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
THE REPORT IS PRESENTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA.
REX JUST CALLED AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS STAYED FOR THE WHOLE MEETING.
RIGHT? UH, SO WE'RE GONNA HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT A GRANTS, UM, AND A RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE THE SUBMISSION FROM OUR CITY STAFF.
I'M GONNA HAVE BRIAN PLAN, READ OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT COME UP AND GIVE A, UH, REPORT.
UM, SO WE DID, UM, GO OUT AND LOOK FOR SOME MONEY.
SO THIS IS MONEY THAT WE ARE SPENDING, UM, REGARDLESS IF THERE'S GRANT OR NOT.
SO THIS IS OPERATIONAL, UH, MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP FOR OUR PUBLIC, UH, ABOUT FACILITIES.
SO CURRENTLY WE ARE OPERATING EIGHT WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT, UH, THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO USE.
UH, THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THE PUMP OUT NAV APP, UH, FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO FIND STATUS OF PUMP OUTS IN A PUBLIC SETTING, UM, OR WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE, DEPENDING ON YOU'RE CRUISING UP AND DOWN THE COAST.
UM, BUT THIS GRANT WILL ACTUALLY HELP US TO REPLACE AGED EQUIPMENT OR, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION OF THE GRANT THAT WILL ACTUALLY GIVE US MAINTENANCE, UH, AND REPAIR DOLLARS UP TO KEEP THE EQUIPMENT UP TO DATE AND FUNCTION.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE SPENDING ANYWAYS.
UM, SO WE ARE GOING AFTER THIS GRANT WITH DEPARTMENT OF VOTING AND WATERWAYS TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE YEAR ON YEAR.
UM, ANYWAYS, CAN I INCLUDE MY REPORT ON THAT? SO WHAT IS YOUR TEAM CURRENTLY DOING TO TRACK DOWN ADDITIONAL GRANT MONEY? IT'S, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH THROUGH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF VOTING AND WATERWAYS.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE THE, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY SPOT FOR US.
UM, SEEING WHAT'S, WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
SO THE SAVES GRANT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BOAT DESTRUCTION, UH, TURN IN, UH, OF VESSELS THAT ARE UNWANTED, UH, FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THOSE VESSELS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOUND THE, THE PUMP OUT GRANT, LIKE THROUGH THAT, THAT SAME SITE, UH, GOING TO, UH, INDUSTRY CONFERENCES AND LIKE TALKING TO OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PROFESSION OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM? UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME POLLUTION GRANTS OUT THERE, UH, THAT CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES CAN GET AS WELL.
UM, AND THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK INTO THOSE AND SEE LIKE HOW FRUITFUL THAT IS AND HOW MUCH WORK IS GONNA GO INTO IT TO POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, GET THE RETURN ON IT.
UH, NOW I, AS I RECALL PAST CHAIRMAN, UH, KELLY HAD MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON PEOPLE THAT NEEDED TO DO THINGS AS PART OF THEIR, UM, MEDIATION FOR ACTS THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE IN POLLUTION.
AND I, I BELIEVE YOU HAD STAFF WORKING ON, UH, PURSUING SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PARKS AND REC GRANT GROUP THAT IS IN BUSINESS OPERATIONS AS WELL AS OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE GRANT PEOPLE.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US ON, ON GROUPS LIKE CLEAN THE BAY, UH, SOME OF THOSE GROUPS, SAN DIEGO, AND I KNOW THEY HAVE IT UP IN, UH, MARINA DELREY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THOSE ARE ALL NON-PROFITS THAT ALSO GIVE DOLLARS OUT.
HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THOSE AT ALL? UH, AT THE SENSE OF, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DESTROYING BOATS THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE WATER.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL BEING VERY, VERY PROACTIVE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE.
I MEAN, IS THERE OTHER MAYBE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS WE CAN LOOK AT AND GET DOLLARS FROM? UM,
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I'M NOT AWARE OF LIKE THE BAY FOUNDATION GIVING OUT, LIKE ANY GRANTS LIKE THAT.UH, WE DO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM, UH, FOR OUR DOCK WALKER PROGRAM.
SO, UH, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT WE, UH, DISSEMINATE OUT TO VOTERS.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, ASK A, YOU KNOW, A SHORT QUESTIONNAIRE AND THEN GIVE OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE CLEAN VOTING INFORMATION, UH, VILLAGE PADS, UH, YOU KNOW, OIL FILL, LIKE DIAPERS.
UM, SO TO THAT INTERACTION AND THE CERTIFICATION OF STAFF, YOU KNOW, THAT LENDS TO OUR CLEAN BRAND CERTIFICATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH THE CALIFORNIA LIKE CLEAN BRAND PROGRAM.
UM, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY LIKE, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THEM.
UH, BUT WE DO A LOT OF COLLABORATION WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
THE, THE LAST ONE I WOULD, I WOULD THINK OF, AND I, FROM WHAT I GATHER, WE DON'T GET DOLLARS ANYMORE FROM THE COUNTY OF LA.
UH, LIKE WE USED TO THAT STOPPED OF GETTING THE CITY COUNCIL OR GETTING OUR MAYOR, WHICH JEFF WAS STILL HERE, UM, TO GO TO, UM, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND GO TO OUR SUPERVISOR FOR THIS AREA REQUESTING DOLLARS.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THEY ALLOT TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF THEIR COUNTY THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
I WOULD THINK, UH, MADAM CHAIR THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT US TO, UM, TO DEVELOP OR TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF DOLLARS HERE.
'CAUSE I LEARNED THAT WHEN I FIRST, MY FIRST WEEK ON BOARD.
UM, IT'S GOT
YOU CAN GET WITH OUR CITY COUNCILWOMAN AND HAVE HER MAKE THE REQUEST THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
UM, UH, WELL I DID NOTICE THERE, UM, ON THE CITY MANAGER'S WEBSITE, A NEW MEMO THAT WAS POSTED ON JULY 3RD THAT TALKED ABOUT, UH, PRIORITIES FOR GRANTS TO PURSUING 'EM.
AND NUMBER FOUR ON THAT LIST WAS THE PEER MM-HMM
UM, AND TO THE TUNE OF 170 MILLION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO IT'S SOME LINKAGE WITH THAT AND TO BE A PRIORITY ON THAT LIST.
UM, BRIAN, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THIS GRANT BECAUSE IT WAS 65 PAGES.
I'M LOOKING THROUGH IT AND I'M LOOKING AT THE MATCH AND I WISH WE COULD, UH, PROACTIVELY GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR TIME AND PUT THAT IN AS THE MATCH.
'CAUSE I'M SURE YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, YOU AND PORTIA.
PORTIA PORSCHE IS THE BIG, THE BIG KEY INTO THE, A LOT OF THESE GRANTS.
LIKE SHE IS A CHAMPION FOR US, LIKE GETTING THROUGH THESE IN THE SAVE GRANTS.
SO WITHOUT HER, I LIKE, I WOULD'VE BEEN LOST IN THOSE 65 PAGES AND HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THOSE TEXTS AND AND METRICS CAN BE REUSED IN FUTURE GRANTS.
IT'S, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE, LIKE WHEN I, AT LEAST IN A LONG TIME, WHEN I WENT AFTER THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.
SO GETTING THAT, THAT DIALOGUE AND THAT VERBIAGE DOWN, UH, LIKE THE SAVES GRANT, WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE A LOT OF THAT AND LIKE COPY AND PASTE INTO THE, THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, WARNING CYCLE.
UM, SO IT SHOULD BE A LOT EASIER, THE MAINTENANCE ONE.
WE MAY HAVE SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, HURDLES TO GET ACROSS, BUT IT'S, IT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING AND THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO RECOUP THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THESE GRANTS, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG WIN FOR US.
MADAM CHAIR, DO, DO WE HAVE, ARE WE A PART OF ANY 5 0 1 C3 THROUGH THE MARINE DEPARTMENT OR THE PARKS AND REC? THAT'S, THAT'S PARTNERS THE PARKS PART PARKS IS OUR, UH, FUNDRAISER SLASH NON-PROFIT ARM THAT WE COORDINATE FOR, FOR THINGS.
UM, COULD WE, COULD WE UTILIZE, I MEAN, YOU'RE ASKING FOR GRANTS AND I KNOW THEY GET IT IN THE PARTS, BUT IF WE TO THE, THE MANY PEOPLE WE ALL KNOW HAD DOLLARS DONATED AS A 5 0 1 C3 IN THAT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED.
UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO? YES, WE HAVE.
SO THE WAY OUR PARTNERS OF PARKS GROUP IS STRUCTURED IS THEY ARE THE, THE THROUGH FILTER FOR DONATIONS TO ALL OF PARKS RECREATION.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, SAY YOU WANT TO MAKE A, A DONATION SPECIFICALLY TO THE MARINE BUREAU, UH, WE HAVE A ACCOUNT SET UP OKAY THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE DEPOSITED INTO.
AND THEN WHEN A, A NEED ARISES, WE WOULD WORK WITH PARTNERS PARKS TO PURCHASE OR PROCURE WHATEVER WE NEEDED WITH THE FUNDS FROM THAT ACCOUNT.
UH, YOU'LL LOOK AT OUR TREES IN THE BAY, RIGHT? UM, WE DO GET DONATIONS THROUGH PARTNERS PARKS FOR THAT.
AND WHAT WE'LL DO, IT'S, IT'S NOT LARGE SUBS, BUT IT HELPS US, UH, PURCHASE REPLACEMENT BOLTS.
IT HELPS US, UH, PURCHASE, UH, UH, LINES AND ROPES TO SECURE THE DOCK, UH, THE PLATFORM TO THE BAY, KEEP THEM IN PLACE.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE AN AVENUE FOR DONATIONS THROUGH THIS PARK.
ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR REPORT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON OUR SIDE? SO THERE COULD BE A PUMP OUT NAMED AFTER BRUCE MCCRAY.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
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BRASS PLAQUEUH, ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT WITH THIS GRANT AND OUR SAVES GRANT, THE GRANTS THAT WE DO, UH, WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO ADDRESS STERILE LIFT VESSELS.
WE'VE MADE IT A COMMITMENT TO ADDRESS OUR COMPOUNDS.
WE ARE GONNA DO THIS ANYWAYS, BUT THE HARD WORK AND OUR STAFF GOING OUT IDENTIFYING THESE DOLLARS, WORKING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS, HAS ALLOWED US TO EXTEND OUT THOSE PROGRAMS TO CREATE A BIGGER IMPACT AND HELP MORE.
UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE COMING IN THE SPRING, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A, A LARGE VESSEL IN OUR BOAT AUCTION THIS SPRING, UH, BECAUSE STAFF HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB UTILIZING THE, THE RESOURCES TO CLEAR DERELICT VESSELS FROM OUR FOOTPRINT.
AND TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND APPROVE AND OBTAIN THAT GRANT MONEY MAKES IT EASIER TO KEEP THOSE PROGRAMS RUNNING.
ANYTHING FURTHER ON THOSE QUESTIONS FROM, TO LOOK.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, VOTE TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION ON THE GRANT.
HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ABOUT REGARDING NON-PROFIT SLIP RATES.
I'M GONNA BRING, UH, BRIAN PLANT BACK UP TO GIVE A QUICK, UH, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT, ABOUT OUR, UH, NON-PROFIT SLIP RATE AND WHO IT AND WHO WE APPLY THAT TO.
SO FOR OUR NON-PROFIT SLIP RATE, IT IS A 50% DISCOUNT ON THE PUBLISHED, UH, RATE IN THE MASTERPIECE SCHEDULE FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR.
UH, THE STIPULATIONS FOR IT, IT MUST BE A 5 0 1 C3 DESIGNATION GROUP.
UM, AND PROVIDING COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
AND WHAT THAT'S WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY UNDER THE WATER FOR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, UH, GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THE WATER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO OTHERWISE.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I I'LL LIST THEM OUT FOR YOU.
SO DOWNTOWN WE HAVE, UH, LOS ANGELES MARITIME INSTITUTE, WHICH IS OUR AMERICAN PRIDE TALL SHIP.
UH, DOWN HERE IN THE A BM HARBOR, WE HAVE BOY SCOUTS, UH, SEA SCOUTS, UH, LONG BEACH SAILING FOUNDATION, PACIFIC COAST SAILING FOUNDATION, UH, C-U-S-U-L-B, SAILING ASSOCIATION AND C-S-U-L-B BIOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE, THESE ARE PROGRAMS AND GROUPS THAT ARE GETTING PEOPLE OUT IN THE WATER.
UM, OR IN THE CASE OF THE BIOLOGY DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION AND RESEARCH IN THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT, UM, THROUGH THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE VESSELS IN THE WATER.
HOW MANY INNER CITIES KIDS COME OUT AND UTILIZE THAT.
THE, UH, PANTHERS AT SEA, I THINK IS A, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
UM, IN THIS PAST, YOU REMEMBER THE, THE NUMBER OF BOATS THAT SUMMER, THE PANTHERS, THAT SEA ISN'T A DIRECT BENEFIT THAT'S DERIVED FROM A WA OF REDUCED SLIP FEES, THOUGH THAT'S DONATIONS OF, OF PEOPLE'S BOATS AND USING.
UH, I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF, IF WE'RE GIVING THESE FREE RENTS AND IT'S GOING TO NON-PROFITS, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE GET TO BENEFIT FROM THAT IN THE CITY? ESPECIALLY AT RISK KIDS AND KIDS FROM THE INNER CITY THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THE WATER? WELL, YOU LOOK AT, YOU LOOK AT, UH, SEACO BASE, THAT'S A PRIME EXAMPLE.
THEY HAVE THEIR SUMMER DAY CAMPS, RIGHT, WHERE THEY'RE CLOSE TO A THOUSAND KIDS THIS SUMMER.
NOW, WHAT AMOUNT OF THAT IS AT RISK? LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC OR, OR LONG BEACH RESIDENTS OR LONG BEACH RESIDENTS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
IT'S A SUMMERTIME ACTIVITY THAT'S ON THE WATER THAT IS CUSTODIAL.
SO IT ALLOWS FOR PARENTS TO LEAVE THEIR KIDS THERE WHILE THEY GO TO WORK FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BENEFITS LIKE THAT, THAT WILL, WILL KEEP PEOPLE COMING TO THE AQUATIC ELEMENT AND CONTINUE TO STAY IN THERE FOR A LIFETIME.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO AS PART OF GETTING THAT REDUCED RATE, DO THEY NEED TO REPORT BACK ANY SORT OF AND OR REPORT OR METRICS THAT IS PART OF LEASE AGREEMENTS? SEVERAL, BUT NOT ALL.
UM, WHAT WE DO IS WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE GROUPS TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND PEOPLE GET INTO NEW LEASE AGREEMENTS, NEW CONTRACT AGREEMENTS, IT'S BECOMING A NORM.
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UM, ARE THOSE COMPLIANCE RECORDS THEN PUBLIC THROUGH PUBLIC REP REQUEST? THROUGH A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST REQUEST? YES.SO IF I WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY BOY SCOUTS FROM SAN BERNARDINO WERE ABLE TO USE THE KAYAK SPACE, THEN THAT WOULD COME, THAT WOULD BE A RESULT OF THEIR, UH, REPORTING AT THE END.
DO WE HAVE A, A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE'VE LOST IN BY GIVING THOSE AWAY, UH, REVENUE BREAKDOWNS? YEAH.
UM, OUR, LET'S SEE IF WE CHARGE THEM, WHAT WOULD IT BE COMING IN FOR? WHAT THEY GET? 50% MORE.
50% OF WHAT? WELL, SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE THOUGH WE'RE GIVING AWAY ON YEAH, IT IS.
IF, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING FROM A NON-PROFIT STANDPOINT, IT'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 SLIPS.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT INITIAL ONBOARDING OF THE, THE GROUP FOR THAT NONPROFIT RATE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE LIVING UP TO THE STANDARD THAT WE, WE GO THROUGH.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA GIVE TO EVERYBODY.
YOU, YOU REALLY, REALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE US INFORMATION AND DETAIL TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A, A BENEFIT TO NOT JUST, NOT JUST THE MARINAS, BUT LONG BEACH AT LARGE.
AND SO AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT FROM A, FROM A DOLLARS AND CENTS STANDPOINT, 10 SLIPS IN COMPARISON TO 3,300.
AND I KNOW AT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE HAD PROBLEMS BECAUSE IT WAS A REDUCED AMOUNT THAT THOSE WERE DE DELIC VEHICLES THERE.
UM, WELL, IN CERTAIN AREAS, BOATS COME AND GO PRETTY QUICKLY.
I, I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY EMPHASIS ON ANY ONE GROUP, BUT, UH, JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF THEIR, THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR PROGRAMMING, THEIR PROGRAM, PERMITING A PROGRAM THEY'RE BRINGING IN BOATS TO UTILIZE, THEY UTILIZE 'EM A LOT AND THEN THEY GOTTA GET RID OF THEM.
SO ON OCCASION, YEAH, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE, THE, THE UPKEEP OF VESSELS, THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE ON SOME OF THOSE.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT MARINE OPERATIONS AND BRIAN'S GROUP WORKS TO WITH EACH GROUP INDIVIDUALLY.
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NARROWER THAN NON-PROFIT.
IT'S FOR, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT AREN'T JUST A NON-PROFIT, BUT PROVIDED DIRECT BENEFIT TO YOUTH OR PEOPLE.
SO IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO, WELL, I THINK OF THE FAMOUS ALITA, BUT THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS.
WELL, I'M NOT OBJECTING, I'M JUST UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S NARROWER THAN BEING A NONPROFIT.
SO, SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS, A NONPROFIT IS A 5 0 1 C, RIGHT? 5 0 1 C3.
BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S A 5 0 1 C3 FOR C SEVEN.
AND THIS YACHT CLUB IS A 5 0 1 C SEVEN.
THEY ARE NOT A, THEY'RE A SOCIAL CLUB.
AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS A 5 0 1.
BUT BEYOND THAT, BEYOND THAT, IT'S, IT'S NARROWER THAN THAT BENEFIT AS WELL.
BECAUSE SOME OF 5 0 1 C THREES ARE, UM, UH, THEY'RE NOT ABOUT ENGAGING WITH YOU.
THEY HAVE A, LIKE ALTA SCIENCE.
SO THIS IS NARROWER, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT OBJECTING.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND AND WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT FROM A BENEFIT TO LONG BEACH STANDPOINT.
'CAUSE LY BENEFITS LONG BEACH, UH, UH, IF THEY'RE, WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW THEM WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW IF THEY EVEN WANT SOME, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.
OR LIKE IF COASTKEEPER NEEDED SPACE TO PLANT THEIR OYSTERS OR WHATEVER MM-HMM
IF THEY WERE BRINGING, SO LET'S TAKE THAT FOR AN EXAMPLE.
IF COASTKEEPER WAS COMING IN, THEY SAID, HEY, WE NEED A A, A BOAT SLIP FOR TWO WEEKENDS.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO IT? ARE YOU A 5 0 1 C3? THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE DOING THIS.
IT'S GONNA BE A BENEFIT TO LONG BEACH.
IT'S GONNA BE A BENEFIT TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE WOULD APPLY A POTENTIAL NON-PROFIT RATE TO THAT.
BUT THE ONES SO FAR HAVE BEEN MORE FOR YOUTH AND ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND AT THIS POINT, IT'S ONLY 11 SLIPS.
SO IF THEY ASKED YOU, LET'S SAY THEY SAID WE'RE GONNA BE DOING, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE OYSTERS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE COMING IN, AND WE HAVE OUR, WE HAVE OUR BIG DUFFY AND WE NEED A SLIP FOR TWO MONTHS.
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UH, IF YOU WAIVE THE FEE, DO YOU HAVE TO COME TO US? I GET, NO, WE DIDN'T.NOW, HERE THEREIN LIES WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO WAIVE FEES.
CITY STAFF DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO WAIVE FEES.
WE NEED TO, WE'LL COME TO YOU TO SUPPORT OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO WAIVE A FEE.
BUT FEES IN THE THAILANDS AREA HAVE TO BE, UH, REVIEWED AND WAIVED OR FEE WAIVER REQUESTS HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND WAIVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANY, ANY FEE WAIVER THAT WE MAY DO, WE'LL BRING TO YOU FIRST.
AND THEN BASED ON HOW YOU SEE IT, WE'LL EITHER MOVE TO CITY COUNCIL OR NOT.
AND I APOLOGIZE, UH, THERE'S 25.
I DIDN'T SEE THERE WAS MORE THAN THAT.
UH, THERE'S 11 BETWEEN C SCOUTS AND LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB.
AND THEN SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB HAS ONE.
AND THEN, UH, PACIFIC COAST SAILING FOUNDATION, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, UH, C-S-U-L-B SAILING AS ASSOCIATION HAS FIVE AND C-S-U-L-B BIOLOGY DEPARTMENT HAS TWO.
AND THE LOS ANGELES MARITIME INSTITUTE HAS, UH, BASICALLY BASE RATE FOR SLIP SIZE.
AND THAT'S YEAR ROUND, CORRECT? THAT'S JUST, THEY HAVE IT FOR YEAH.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO LEAVE AT FOUR.
I, I TOLD TODD, I DON'T KNOW IF I PASSED THAT AND TO YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT REDUCED SLIP FEES FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO, MA'AM.
ANY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? LET'S GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, FILING THAT REPORT.
UH, MOVING ON ITEM SIX, UH, ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PORTIONS OF THE MEETING.
I RECOMMENDED I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE GONNA START WITH MAUREEN SAFETY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CHIEF MEDINA.
UH, FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS CONGRATULATE CHIEF MEDINA ON HIS APPOINTMENT TO THE, UH, BOATER AND BOATING AND WATERWAYS COMMISSION FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
HE WAS APPOINTED BY THE, UH, THE GOVERNOR IN NOVEMBER.
AND, UH, IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR OUR REGION.
UH, THE, THE COMMISSION BODY IS USUALLY REPRESENTED BY A LOT OF, UH, CENTRAL CALIFORNIA TO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA COMMISSIONERS.
AND HAVING, UH, UH, CHIEF MEDINA ON THAT COMMISSION IS A GOOD WAY, WAY TO REPRESENT, UH, THE WATER BOUND COMMUNITY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
SO, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU, CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, AND GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK UPDATES ON MY END, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO PASS THE, UH, GENERAL UPDATES TO BATTALION CHIEF DIXON.
UH, I WANTED TO COVER THAT, UH, UH, THREE THINGS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THAT IN FEBRUARY 4TH HAS CITY COUNCIL, UH, CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA BE, UH, UH, REVIEWING AND HOPEFULLY APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH L-V-U-S-D FOR FIVE YEARS ON THE JUNIOR LIFE PREP PREP CLASS WHERE L-V-U-S-S-B HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY FUNDING THE, UH, PREPARATION AND PARTICIPATION OF YOUTH FROM ALL ACROSS THE CITY, UH, TO GET THEM READY FOR JUNIOR LIFEGUARDS.
UH, WE JUST STARTED REGISTRATION FOR A JUNIOR LIFEGUARD PREP CLASS ON THE 6TH OF JANUARY.
AND SO THESE KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF OUR GRADE PROGRAM CAN SIGN UP FOR THE PREP CLASS ON THE PARKS AND REC WEBSITE AND GET INSTRUCTION FROM LIFEGUARDS.
AND ALL OF THAT COST IS BEING ABSORBED BY L-A-U-S-D.
AND THAT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
IT'S ABOUT $67,000 THAT THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDING TO OUR STAFF.
THEY ALSO PAY FOR STUDENTS THAT NEED IT, THEIR REGISTRATION FEES AND PARTICIPATION FEES AND UNIFORMS FEES.
SO THAT'S GONNA GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL ON THE 4TH OF FEBRUARY.
SO, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME THERE.
BUT ON A POSITIVE, I WANTED TO, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, ONE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER ZAVALA, UH, WHEN SHE'S NOT ON A COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ZAVALA IS PART OF MARINE SAFETY AND SHE'S BEEN IN OCEAN, OCEAN LIFE PARK FOR US FOR, UH, SEVEN YEARS NOW.
UH, UH, THROUGH A INTENSIVE IN SELECTION PROCESS, UH, SHE'S NOW PROMOTED INTO THE, UH, RANK OF MARINE SAFETY OFFICER.
SO, UH, SHE'LL BE A SWARM MARINE SAFETY OFFICER AND, UH, THAT, THAT'S FANTASTIC.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE.
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YOU'RE NOT GIVING HER A SIREN FOR THE TOP OF HER CAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.ARE YOU?
UH, CAR GOES INTO THE FLOOD CHANNEL, UH, BATTALION CHIEF DIXON, WE HAVE A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN US WHEN HE'S ON DUTY, THINGS HAPPEN.
I MEAN, LIKE, IF, IF IT IS A, IF IT IS A SHIFT THAT'S THAT CHIEF DIXON'S ON SOMETHING BAD'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE CITY.
AND WE JOKE ABOUT IT, BUT IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT ALSO HAPPENS WHEN HE'S, UH, UH, OFF DUTY.
HE AFFECTED A, A FANTASTIC RESCUE ON THOSE THREE VICTIMS IN THE FOOT CHANNEL.
UH, THEY'RE LUCKY THAT HE WAS PRESENT.
AND FOR THAT I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HIM.
AND, UH, APO GUY, PLEASE PROVIDE THE UPDATES.
MY NAME'S SCOTT DIXON WITH THE MARINE SAFETY DIVISION.
UM, LONG BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
UM, WINTER IS USUALLY WHEN LESS BOATS ARE OUT OF THE WATER.
A LITTLE SLOWER AS FAR AS, UH, STATS FOR US, BUT WE'RE STILL OUT THERE EVERY DAY.
UH, PATROLLING, UH, THE BEACHES ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN BUSY.
UM, STINGRAYS ARE STILL AROUND.
UM, WE'RE STILL, OUR MEDICAL CALLS ARE STILL UP ON THE BEACH.
UM, WE HAD ABOUT 35 MEDICAL CALLS, UM, SO STILL PRETTY BUSY FOR OUR WINTER.
UM, THE NAVAL BOAT PARADE WENT VERY WELL.
UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES PUTTING TOGETHER AND, UM, MAKING THE WHEELS TURN AND THEY TURNED WELL.
AND I THINK IT WAS A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH ONCE AGAIN.
I WAS OUT THERE ON THE WATER AND, UH, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
UM, WE HAD A WIND EVENT, AS YOU GUYS ARE ALL AWARE OF.
UM, WORKING WITH THE MARINE DEPARTMENT THOUGH, AND GETTING THE COMMUNICATION, AS WE KNOW, IS A HUGE, GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE BOAT OWNERS.
UM, AN EMAIL WAS PUT OUT AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I BELIEVE OUR CALL VOLUME WAS LESS.
UM, PEOPLE CAME DOWN AND ACTUALLY CHECKED THEIR BOATS.
PEOPLE TEXTED ME, I CHECKED MY BOAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT THEIR EMAIL.
SO I THINK BEING PROACTIVE TOGETHER AS A GROUP IS MAKING PEOPLE SAFER AND MAKING OUR MARINA SAFER.
AND, UH, KUDOS TO THE MARINE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAD, UH, BIG SWELLS TWO WEEKS AGO, OR THREE WEEKS AGO, WHICH I GOT TO SURF IN LONG BEACH WITH MY SON, WHICH WAS AMAZING.
UM, GO GET TO SAY THAT VERY OFTEN.
BUT, UM, THE CONSTANT PHONE CALL TO KELLY AND THE TEAM AND, UH, THE BEACH CREWS, UH, THE BERMS UP.
UM, I KNOW CHIEF'S GONNA GIMME A PHONE CALL 'CAUSE HE'S GETTING PHONE CALLS.
AND TO HAVE THAT REASSURANCE AGAIN, WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THE BERM IS UP AND THE PUBLIC'S SAFE, AND, UH, BEING PROACTIVE AGAIN, UH, REALLY CAME AHEAD FOR US AGAIN THIS TIME FOR THIS STORM.
WE'RE DOING OUR ANNUAL, UM, WE CALL 'EM DRILLS.
WE CALL 'EM THE OLYMPICS, KIND OF FOR US.
'CAUSE UH, WE RUN ALL OF OUR DIVE TEAM THROUGH DIFFERENT, UM, SCENARIOS AND EQUIPMENT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE UP TO SPEED AND READY.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW.
SWIFT WATER TEAM IS GEARING UP, UM, WITH TRAINING, GETTING READY.
USUALLY WE'D HAVE A LITTLE MORE RAIN BY NOW.
UM, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT.
AND THEN OUR CREWS ARE ON THE BEACH, ARE CONTINUING TO TRAIN AND BE READY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A, A PIER J INCIDENT, UM, WITH THE, UH, LOBSTER DIVER.
UM, BUT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH RESPONDED QUICKLY.
WE DID WHAT WE COULD AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT FOR OUR DIVISION AND OUR, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR CITY.
UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.
THE ENDING ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST, BUT I KNOW THAT WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD.
UM, AND WE, IN THAT TRAINING THAT I JUST SPOKE OF, SET US UP FOR SUCCESS OR SET US UP TO BE THERE AND DO THE BEST WE COULD.
SO, UM, KUDOS TO OUR CREWS OUT THERE.
UM, DID MISS ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE, THAT'S IT.
WAS THE FIREMAN EVER FOUND? NOT YET.
AND, UH, STILL, STILL WORKING HARD ON WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DIFFERENT GROUPS AND TRYING TO, I GOTTA GIVE YOU THE, THE, THE, DURING THE BOAT PARADE.
UH, I WENT OUT AND TOOK MY FAMILY OUT BEFORE THE BOAT PARADE 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE A PART OF THE BOAT PARADE.
UM, AND IT WAS, UH, YOUR, YOUR STAFF IS SO PROFESSIONAL.
'CAUSE I HAD TO DROP SOMETHING OFF TO A FRIEND OF MINE THAT LIVES RIGHT THERE AT, AT THE TIP, UH, DAVE ERICKSON LIKE THAT.
AND THEY WHOOP AND I, I DID NOT OPEN MY BADGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I JUST, HEY GUYS, JUST DROPPING THIS OFF RIGHT HERE LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE GOING IN THERE FOR HOW LONG? AND I SAYS, A MINUTE AND A HALF.
I MEAN, THEY WERE JUST, THEY WERE GREAT.
AND THEY JUST DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB AROUND THE ENTIRE, UH, ENTIRE EVENT.
WE WENT IN, UH, A WEEK BEFORE AND DID SIDE SCAN AND BOTTOM SCAN OF THE WHOLE BOTTOM JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY TARGETS OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HIT.
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WE'VE BEEN GETTING AND THE STUFF WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.AND IT MAKES OUR CREWS OUT THERE.
AND, UM, THEY WERE SMILING, LET'S PUT THAT, BUT THEY WERE SMILING.
ALL OF OUR MARINE STAFF AND ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE YOU'RE OUR HERO.
AND, UH, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE SEEN, UH, MR. DIXON EARLIER THAT EVENING.
I'D NEVER SEEN HIM DRESS UP QUITE SO NICE.
AND THE FACT THAT HIS FAMILY SUPPORTS HIM AND KNOWS THAT WHEN HELPS NEEDED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO OFF WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING AND FOCUS ON HELPING OTHER PEOPLE.
AND THEY HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR CHRISTMAS TREES EARLIER IN THE WEEK AND HAD STOPPED TO GIVE IN SOME PEOPLE AID.
UH, THEN WHEN HE QUICKLY GOT OUT OF THE CAR AFTER PUTTING HIS FAMILY IN A SAFE SPOT TO DO THE RESCUE, UH, THEY'RE ON THE PHONE.
THEY'RE GETTING NINE ONE ONE HELP.
UH, WHEN KENDRA SAID WAS ASKED BY 9 1 1, UH, GEE, GIVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE.
SHE WAS STILL A LITTLE STRESSED AND SO SAID IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN THE, IN THE WATER
FROM OUR COMMISSION HONORING SCOTT DIXON IN RECOGNITION FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE ON THE EVENING OF DECEMBER 6TH THAT RESULTED IN THE RESCUE OF THREE INDIVIDUALS FROM LAS RITAS CHAIR.
WE'LL PASS OVER INTO IT AGAIN.
I'M DOING THE YOU'RE NOT RIGHT.
WE WANTED TO BUY YOU A NEW CAR, BUT WITH THE, UH, ISSUES WITH, UH, UM, BACK HERE.
AND THEN, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND FOR RECOGNIZING, UH, EC DIXON.
UH, AND THEN ON A MUCH MORE SOMBER NOTE, I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE, UH, GREEN SAFETY CHIEF JIM RAY HAD PASSED AWAY JUST RECENTLY.
UH, CHIEF RAY CAME INTO THE DIVISION IN 1963, WORKED HIS WAY UP THE RANKS, UH, BECAME THE, UH, LIFEGUARD CHIEF IN, UH, 84, I BELIEVE.
UH, AT THAT TIME, LIFEGUARDS WERE UNDER PARKS AND REC.
THE PREVIOUS LIFEGUARD, CHIEF DICK MILLER WAS PROMOTED INTO, UH, TODD'S TODD'S POSITION.
UH, AND, UH, AND THIS IS WHY I STILL CALL TODD BOSS EVERY TIME WE TALK, BUT, UH, BUT, UM, JIM RAY, UH, JIM RAY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE TRANSITION FROM LIFEGUARDS MOVING FROM PARKS AND REC OVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE PROFESSIONALIZATION OF THE, UH, LIFEGUARD DIVISION.
AND ULTIMATELY, UH, HE LEFT IN 1997.
UH, HE WAS, HE WAS STILL, HE WAS JUST, UH, A BEACH OPERATIONS ABOUT TWO TO THREE WEEKS AGO, UH, TALKING TO CREWS UP THERE.
YEAH, HE'S REALLY UP THE GAME ON TRAINING FOR, UH, A LOT OF THE LIFEGUARDS AND, AND LINKED THAT IN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING SYSTEM.
UM, AND SOME OF THAT HE GOT PUSHED BACK ON DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AND REALLY FOUGHT, UM, FOR THAT TRAINING, WHICH IS WONDERFUL THAT WE'RE ALL BENEFITING FROM THAT NOW.
UH, AND TODAY'S MEETING, WE PLAN TO, UM, CLOSE IN HIS HONORS.
YOU, WE WILL MOVE TO KELLY ARMSTRONG AND OUR BEACH MAINTENANCE UPDATE.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES FROM BEACH.
UH, THE HIGH TIDES IN THE, THE LARGE WEST SWELL IN DECEMBER, UM, HAD A MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE BEACH FRONT.
UM, WELL, LUCKILY IT WASN'T THAT SOUTH SWELL THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.
THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DESTRUCTIVE IN NATURE.
UH, THE CREW, UH, HAS SINCE FORTIFIED, UH, THE BERM.
UM, THE LARGER WINTER BERM FOR THE, THE STORM SEASON, UH, OUR INNER BAY BERMS WERE REMOVED FOLLOWING THE KENTON TIDES, UM, AND FORTUNATELY REMOVED JUST IN TIME FOR THE NAPLES BOAT PARADE.
SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, BETTER VIEWING FROM THAT BEACHFRONT FOR THE PARADE.
UH, WE COMPLETED A DEMONSTRATION, UH, AND TESTING OF, UH, A NEW, UH, BEACH CLEANING MACHINE.
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UM, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR FLEET OPERATIONS TO, UH, PROCURE THAT, UH, MACHINE, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR, UM, DECEMBER 69, TONS OF TRASH AND DEBRIS, UH, KIND OF A, A SLOW MONTH.WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE BIG, UH, WINTER STORMS THAT BRING IN, UH, A LOT MORE DEBRIS.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW.
OUR QUEENSWAY BAY TEAM, UH, IS WORKING, UH, SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE RAINBOW HARBOR AREA TO REVITALIZE THE WAVE FOUNTAIN, UH, PUMP REPAIRS, UH, SOME TILE WORK.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO CONTINUING A LOT OF HANDRAIL, UH, UPGRADES AND, UH, REPAIRS.
UH, AND OUR GROUNDS DIVISION, UH, COMPLETED, UH, UH, A LAWN TO GARDEN EVENT IN NOVEMBER, UM, AT THE SHORELINE MARINA.
AND WE HAVE A NEW AREA SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 15TH, AND THAT'S GONNA BE IN BASIN THREE, UH, IN THE ALAMEDO BAY.
UH, OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDE, UH, UH, TREE TRIMMING, UH, THAT HAS ALL SCHEDULED TREE TRIMMING WERE, UH, COMPLETED DURING THE NON NESTING, UH, SEASON THAT THAT JUST PASSED IN, UH, DECEMBER 31ST.
UM, WHILE I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, UM, I'LL, I'LL ALSO GIVE SOME UPDATES FROM SUPERINTENDENT COREY FORESTER WITH MARINE MAINTENANCE.
HE WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE WANTED ME TO SHARE SOME UPDATES ON HIS BEHALF.
UM, MARINE MAINTENANCE COMPLETED THE CONVERSION FROM SHORE POWER TO SOLAR POWER FOR THE MARINE STADIUM GRANDSTAND.
UH, THEY HAVE BEGUN THE REMOVAL, UH, AND BREAKDOWN OF, UH, AND STORAGE OF 68 CHRISTMAS TREES, UH, IN THE BAY PROGRAM.
UH, INSTALLED NEW ROLL-UP DOOR AT COLORADO LAGOON, COMPLETED THE INSTALLATION OF NEW ROLL-UP, UH, FOR BELMONT POOL, INSTALLED NEW HELICAL ANCHORS AND SWIM LINE FOR THE COLORADO LAGOON.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING A, A BUOY THERE, OR IT WILL BE DEPLOYED SOON.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S AT COLORADO, COLORADO LAGOON REFERRING TO THE, UH, HELIC ANCHORS.
UH, AND THOSE ARE THE UPDATES FROM, UH, MAINTENANCE.
I HAVE A QUESTION THAT CAME THROUGH WHEN, UM, FROM GORDON MM-HMM
UM, ABOUT THE ALL ALGAE REMOVAL AND RAINBOW LAGOON.
THAT'S ONGOING IS A, UM, WEEKLY ACTIVITY, UM, PRETTY SLOW RIGHT NOW.
IT'S TYPICALLY A SUMMER ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN IN THE SUMMER, UH, WHEN WE HAVE HIGHER TEMPERATURES IS WHEN WE GET, UH, ALGAE BLOOMS. UH, ALTHOUGH IN RECENT YEARS, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERED WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL, UM, WATER CIRCULATION IN THE RAINBOW LAGOON AS WELL AS, UH, A NEW PUMP SYSTEM WE DID FOR AERATION.
UH, THOSE TWO COMBINED PUMPS, UH, HAVE REALLY REDUCED THAT, UH, THAT ISSUE, THAT LARGER ALGAE ISSUES THAT WE HAD YEARS PAST.
AND IT, IT, IT TALKED ABOUT IN YOUR REPORT THAT THAT WAS ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND WHAT HER QUESTION WAS, UM, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT ISN'T A PART OF STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S SUBCONTRACTED OUT.
UM, WE DO UTILIZE A SUB, UH, A CONTRACTOR FOR THOSE LARGER SCALE, UH, ALGAE OUTBREAKS.
UM, BUT AS PART OF OUR INTERNAL PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, DAILY, UH, INSPECTIONS, MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS MM-HMM.
CLEANING THE FILTER BASKETS, THERE'S 60 OF THEM THERE.
UH, THAT KIND OF INCORPORATES INTO THE, THE, THE MINOR CATEGORY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
JUST A QUICK ADD-ON FOR KELLY THERE.
HE'S NOT DOING A GOOD JOB TOOTING HIS OWN HO HERE.
UM, PRIOR TO KELLY TAKING OVER AS THE MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR AT QUEENS WAY, THERE WAS ALGAE BLOOMS CONSISTENTLY WEEKLY, ESPECIALLY DURING HOT WEATHER.
UH, KELLY TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF AND TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO REALLY, REALLY GET IN THERE AND CREATE EFFICIENCIES IN WATER CIRCULATION, AERATION AND, AND PUMP FLOW TO CREATE A ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT'S HARD FOR ALGAE TO REALLY STICK.
AND SO, YES, WE USED TO HAVE DIVERS IN THERE, SUBCONTRACTOR A LOT MORE, BUT WE DON'T NEED IT AS MUCH ANYMORE.
BUT NOW, UH, THAT CAN USE THOSE DIVING LIMITS FOR OTHER THINGS THAT HELP IN RAINBOW LAGOON FOR, UH, LARGER PUMP PROJECTS.
SO WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE SPECIFICALLY DOING THE ALGAE BLOOM, UH, DIVING, THEY ARE DOING THE DIVING WORK IN OTHER ELEMENTS OF RAINBOW LAGOON, SHE WAS CONCERNED THAT THE RF UM, Q HAD INITIALLY SAID ALL THAT ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA THAT IS ALL UNDER THE CONTRACT, UM, FOR THE STREET OF WETLAND STEWARDS, INCLUDING ALL THAT ALGAE WORK.
AND HER CONCERN WAS THEN THAT WE'VE GOT
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SO MUCH STAFF WORKING ON THAT.AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S DUE TO KELLY'S AND HIS TEAM'S WORK.
THE ALGAE, THE, THE FREQUENCY OF ALGAE CLEANING HAS DECREASED, BUT THE USAGE FOR THE DIVING AND THE NEED FOR THE DIVING IS STILL THERE FOR OTHER ELEMENTS.
AND THEN MY FAVORITE REQUEST ALWAYS TO COREY, IS PLEASE FINISH THAT ONE WALL IN THE RUN OFFICE.
IT'S NOW BEEN 18 MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, I'LL LET HIM KNOW HOW WE HAVE, I'M THERE.
QUESTION ON, UH, UH, HOW WE DOING ON THE, UH, UM, THE BUOYS LIGHTS ON THE BUOYS? UM, THAT WOULD BE FOR CORY.
I DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.
BUT I CAN ALSO REFER THAT, UM, BACK TO HIM.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE PARKING LOT PROJECT THAT ARE ON IT? I THINK I SAW ONE ON, ON SHO ONE.
IT'S ALMOST DONE THAT THERE'S, THEY'RE DOING THE PARKING LOT THERE.
MARIA GREEN SHOULD BE COMPLETED FEBRUARY.
AND THEN, UM, I WAS JUST GONNA ALSO MENTION THERE'S A SLURRY PROJECT AT, UH, CLAREMONT RIGHT NOW THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED, I BELIEVE, BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
YEAH, SO IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED LIKE 54TH IS SUPPOSED TO OPEN BACK UP TOMORROW.
IT'S LIKE A, LIKE A NEW TEST PRODUCT.
UM, TRYING TO REALLY PRESERVE THE, THE ASPHALT, LIKE FROM DEGRADATION, UM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TRACKS AND STUFF.
SO IT'S A PROJECT THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS PUTTING ON RIGHT NOW.
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO SUPERINTENDENT BRIAN PLANT'S OPERATIONS.
UH, SO OCCUPANCY, WE'RE STILL HOVERING, UM, RIGHT AROUND THE 94%.
UM, FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER WE HAD 595 NIGHTS OF GUEST DAYS, UH, THROUGH OUR FOOTPRINT.
UM, ONE THING I REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UH, THIS IS, THIS WAS A REALLY FUN DAY FOR US.
UH, ONE OF OUR MAIN AGENT TWOS WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH IN NOVEMBER.
SO MS. TOOTY SANCHEZ, UM, WAS BESTOWED THAT HONOR.
IT WAS REALLY FUN TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE AND SURPRISE HER AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, SHOWER HER WITH LIKE ALL THE CONGRATULATIONS SHE DESERVES.
UM, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY GIVEN TO HER FOR HER INTERDEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION, UH, AND REALLY EXECUTING EVENTS AT MARINE STADIUM, UM, BETWEEN LIKE RESERVATIONS AND OUR OPS DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT WAS REALLY AWESOME TO SEE.
UM, PROJECT, SO THE MARINA GREEN PARKING LOT DOWN AT SHORELINE, SO THEY JUST FINISHED THE GRINDING OVERLAY.
UH, THIS WEEK, UH, STRIPING WILL BEGIN NEXT MONDAY AS IS SCHEDULED TO GO FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF.
SO BY THE END OF JANUARY, WE'LL HAVE A NEW PARKING LOT AT SHORELINE AND BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.
UM, WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO ADD THROUGH THIS PROCESS A NEW ACCESS POINT AT THE 300 GATE.
SO THEY, THAT QRS DOWN BY SHORELINE VILLAGE.
UH, RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THE LINDEN GATE.
SO ONE ACCESS POINT FOR ALL THOSE BOAT SLIPS.
UH, WE'RE ADDING A GATE, ARM AND AUTOMATION, UH, TIGER TEETH EGRESS DOWN AT THE OTHER SIDE, UH, TO AID IN EVENTS, UH, WHEN, WHEN LINDA GATES CLOSED FOR GRAND PRIX OR DIFFERENT SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE FOOTPRINT.
UH, BUT ALSO JUST NORMAL, NORMAL FLOW OF TRAFFIC, UH, IT'S GONNA HAVE VERSUS ONE SPOT.
WE HAVE NOW TWO PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN OUT OF THE LOT.
UM, AND, UH, ABMS BASE TWO PUMP OUT SYSTEM.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH LABOR COMPLIANCE, UH, TO GET THE CONTRACTS FINALIZED, UH, WITH CO'S COMMENTS.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UH, STARTING THAT PROJECT IN FEBRUARY TO GET THE BASIN TWO PUMP OUTS, UH, COMPLETELY UPGRADED.
UH, AT THE SAME TIME WE WILL, WE WILL BE REPLACING BOTH THE UNITS, UH, PUBLIC UNITS AT THE HARBOR MASTER DOCK.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE CONTINUING ISSUES WITH THOSE GOING OUT OF SERVICE.
UM, UPCOMING EVENT, WE HAVE THE 50TH LONG BEACH GRAND PRIX.
THAT IS GONNA BE APRIL 11TH THROUGH THE 13TH.
UM, SO WE ARE ALREADY IN PLANNING MODE FOR THAT.
UM, SO EXPECT TO BE, UH, HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A SMOOTH EVENT.
QUESTION ON, UH, THE YACHT CLUB THAT'S DOWNTOWN, UH, SHORELINE.
SHORELINE, UH, THERE'S TWO BIG CONTAINERS TAKING UP A COUPLE PARKING SPACES.
IS THAT, I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS PARKING SPACES.
UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY WENT THROUGH? UH, THE MARINE DEPARTMENT IS THAT THEY I JUST NOTICED THAT WHEN I WAS DRIVING.
SO I WAS DRIVING ONE DAY AND I WENT, WOW, THAT'S KIND OF COOL, HUH?
SO THERE WE WENT BACK AND, AND DID FIND DOCUMENTATION ON THAT.
THOSE DID HAVE TO BE MOVED RIGHT NOW FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THEY'RE IN A TEMPORARY LOCATION.
UH, THERE IS, UH, A COASTAL PERMIT THAT WENT THROUGH, UH, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS THAT THEY GAVE THEM ACCESS TO PLACE THOSE CONTAINERS THERE FOR THEIR SAILING PROGRAM.
SO, I MEAN, BUT IT, IT WAS MOVED SO WE CAN REDO THE WHOLE BREAK.
EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WAS MOVED.
UH, WE HAD AN OIL COLLECTION SITE CONTAINERS,
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UH, IN THAT LOT THAT NEEDED TO BE MOVED.LIKE THE, ALL THE ASPHALT WAS GROUND DOWN REPAVED ONLY THING THAT'S, IT'S LIKE UNDER MY SKIN RIGHT NOW.
WE, WE HAD A WATER BREAK EARLIER THIS WEEK RIGHT AS WE FINISHED THE LOT.
THEY'RE GONNA GRIND A BIGGER SECTION OUT TO BLEND IT IN, SO SHOULD NOT BE TOO NOTICEABLE.
BUT THAT WAS THE, UH, ONE, ONE DOWNSIDE OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, FINISH UP WITH A MANAGER'S REPORT.
ERIC WOODSON IS COMING BACK TO PARKS RECREATION MARINE.
ERIC WOODSON IS NOW THE NEW MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS BUREAU MANAGER FOR ALL OF, UH, ALL OF PARKS RECREATION RING PARKS.
SO IF YOU'RE AT A PARK, YOU SEE
UH, THE MAYOR'S, UH, STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 14TH.
WANTED TO HELP, UH, JEFF PUSH THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, WE ARE OBSERVING MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY ON JANUARY 20TH, BUT YOUR MARINAS WILL BE OPEN, STAFF WILL BE HERE BECAUSE THAT IS A HOLIDAY.
UM, IT IS THE START OF FY 20, OR IT'S THE START OF 2025.
HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY NEW, UH, BUT IT IS ALSO THE START OF THE FY 26 BUDGET SEASON.
SO, UH, IF YOU GO TO LONG BEACH BUDGET, UH, UH, PRIORITY SURVEY, TYPE THAT IN ONLINE, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE A, TAKE A SURVEY THAT'LL HELP INFORM THE CITY'S BUDGET.
BUT THERE ALSO ARE ON THAT SAME WEBSITE, WILL BE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY BUDGET MEETINGS THAT YOU CAN ATTEND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UH, LASTLY, THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING AT ROGERS, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE AUDITORIUM, UH, ON JANUARY 22ND FOR THE BELMONT BEACH AND AQUATIC CENTER PROJECT.
AND THEN LASTLY, CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER ZA.
CONGRATULATIONS CHIEF MEDINA, CONGRATULATIONS AND GREAT JOB BATTALION CHIEF DIXON.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR MANAGER'S REPORT.
UH, UM, I'M GONNA ASK MR. DIXON, SINCE YOU'RE CLOSEST TO IT, I CAN'T SIT HERE ANYMORE WITHOUT THE ONE EYE IN THE TOP CORNER.
COULD YOU TAKE THAT DOWN PLEASE? THIS ONE? THANK YOU.
HOW WE, HOW ARE WE DOING ON, UH, ON ALL THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE APPROVED? MANY, MANY CONCESSIONS.
OUR CONCESSIONS ARE DOING FANTASTIC.
UH, WE NOW HAVE ALL OF THEM OPEN.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ALAMEDA BEACH GAUCHO, YOU HAVE
YOU HAVE BAY SHORE, WHICH IS GRILL MALL, AND THEN YOU HAVE MOTHER'S BEACH, WHICH IS LOUISIANA.
CHARLIE'S ALL FIVE ARE DOING FANTASTIC.
SO, UH, THEY ARE OPEN OPERATING AND, UH, CONCESSIONING.
SO, UH, AND THEN WE'RE HOPING BEFORE THE SUMMER THAT WE'LL HAVE RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES AT BOTH CADA AND
WHAT RENTALS WOULD BE AVAILABLE? UH, BIKES, ROLLER SKATES, UH, SPECIFICALLY AT
UM, WE'LL ALSO DO YOU KNOW, JUST THE TRADITIONAL BEACH STUFF, IF YOU WANTED TO RUN A, A, A CHAIR OR STUFF LIKE THAT? SO YOU DOING ELECTRIC BIKES? UM, I JUST WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE IT IS AGAIN, I, I WALKED MY RIGHT.
WE WERE AT, AT, AT, AT THE DOG BEACH, AND I'M TELLING YOU WHAT, THERE'S NO WAY THOSE ELECTRIC BIKES AND ELECTRIC SCOOTERS ARE ONLY DOING 15 MILES AN HOUR.
YEAH, IT'S, IT, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, I BELIEVE THEY'LL START WITH BICYCLES AND THEN BASED ON HOW THINGS GO WITH THE, THE STUDY OKAY.
FOR SCOOTERS AND ELECTRIFIED THINGS ON THE BIKE PATH, WE CAN TRANSITION BASED ON HOW THAT GOES.
IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, WE LOSE COMMISSIONER LAMB.
WILL WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM AFTER THAT? NO.
SO LET'S, IN INTEREST IN TIME SPEED UP OUR, OUR FINAL 10 MINUTES, IS THAT IN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYONE ON MA'AM? PERMISSION? YES MA'AM.
UM, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS TO BE ON THE FLOOR.
UH, ONE IS TO TALK ABOUT THE 2025 CALENDAR AND AGENDA ITEMS. AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME BETTER CLARITY ON THAT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
COMMISSIONER, I WOULD RECOMMEND PUTTING YOUR COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS, JUST MOVING UP THE AGENDA REAL QUICK AND THEN FINISH WITH YOUR CALENDAR.
WELL, I'M SAYING THAT WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE ITEM SEVEN AND, AND ROLL IT OVER TWO MINUTES INTO AN, UH, AND PUT IT IN THE PACKET THAT'LL COME OUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE, THE, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS CAN BE LISTED
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THAT WAY.SO I'D LIKE TO, UM, WITH THE REMAINING COMMISSIONER'S, UH, PERMISSION, UH, MOVE, UM, AGENDA ITEM SEVEN TO BE INCLUDED AS A PART OF NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA AND WE'LL INCLUDE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION WITH THAT.
AND THEN MOVE ON TO, UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON COMMITTEE REPORTS.
UM, WE'LL START WITH A EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE REPORT.
THERESA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SHARE FROM OUR MEETING? WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE HAVE PRESENTED TODAY ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE DID, UM, IT WAS AT THAT MEETING THAT WE RAISED THE ISSUE OF THE NON-PROFIT NON-PROFITS AND SLIPS AND WHAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
AND, UM, ALSO THAT FOR THE 2025 CALENDAR, UH, THAT, UM, THE CHAIR, UH, WAS GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH PRIOR, UM, REPORTS AND MINUTES AND LOOK AT SOME, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WE CAN BRING, UH, SOME, UM, TALK AND DISCUSSIONS AND PLANS FOR 2025 CALENDAR.
AND WE HAD A COUPLE ITEMS WE'D REQUESTED BE ON THE AGENDA.
ONE WAS A FOLLOW UP ON THE COLORADO LAGOON.
FORTUNATELY THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE HAS SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL AS SOME VIDEO, UM, ABOUT PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR, UM, CONFIDENCE IN WHAT, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENED THUS FAR.
AND, UM, WE'D ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF HEARING AN UPDATE ON HOW WELL THE OYSTERS ARE DOING WITHIN, UM, ALAMEDA BAY AND THE UNIVERSITY IS CURRENTLY ON BREAK UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.
AND SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT ROLL OVER INTO OUR, OUR NEXT AGENDA.
UH, AND, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE A FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.
WERE THERE OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE HAD THAT MET? NO MA'AM.
YEAH, WOULD YOU MIND, CAN WE GO BACK TO NUMBER SEVEN REAL QUICK AND JUST MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO NEXT AND THEN APPROVE IT.
WELL,
MAKE THE MOTION SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION THEN MOVE AND THEN SECOND, GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THERE.
YEAH, SO YOU MOVE THAT THE, UH, DISCUSSION TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2025 CALENDAR, UH, BE INCLUDED AS A PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET FOR NEXT MONTH AND ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, LEMME CLOSE THAT PUPPY OUT.
AND ANY OTHER COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO, MA'AM.
UM, AND NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA, A PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WE DO HAVE ONE, UM, THE ROWING ASSOCIATION TO GIVE A BIT OF THAT OLYMPIC UPDATE FILE THE FILE OF THE, YEAH, UH, NUMBER, UH, ITEM EIGHT, YOU HAVE TO VOTE FILE.
ALL RIGHT, NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I KNOW THE RO ASSOCIATION WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF REPORT ON OLYMPIC STATUS.
WE WENT TO THE MEETING, TO THE GENERAL MEETING, BUT UM, WE HAVE MORE GOING ON JUST WITHIN THE CLUB FROM TALKING WITH LA 28TH.
AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO HELP ALL THE ATHLETES WITH, UH, INTERNATIONALLY BEFORE THE COMPETITION IN THE 28TH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO CARRY 'EM UP WITH PLANTS AND WE HAVE, UH, IN TWO WEEKS WE HAVE A CONTAINER COMING WITH A NEW COASTAL BOATS, UM, THAT IS BOATS THAT WE WILL USE FOR THE NEW EVENT THAT'S GONNA BE IN 28 THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE, WHICH IS THE ONE WHERE THEY, THEY START ON THE BEACH, THEY RUN TO THE WATER, JUMP IN THE BOAT AND ROW AROUND A COUPLE OF BUOYS AND THEN COME BACK UP ON THE BEACH.
AND SO THESE BOATS THAT WE GET, WE HAVE EIGHT ON COMING.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL THE ATHLETES WILL BE BE USING AR BOATS THAT WILL BE TO TRAIN.
AND AS SOON AS IT'S OFFICIALLY AT NOW SQUARE, THE VENUE IS, WE HOPE OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE TRAINING RIGHT AT THE VENUE UNTIL 20 EIGHTHS.
AND WHERE WILL THOSE CONTAINERS BE KEPT FROM? UM, YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS.
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CONTAINER, THE ONE COMING WITH A BOAT AND WE'RE GONNA UNLOAD THEM IN A COUPLE HOURS.WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTAINERS, UH, ALL THAT.
SO, UM, AND THEN FOR, UH, 1500 METER ROWING, THE REGULAR ROWING WHERE YOU'RE SITTING BACKWARDS WITH A LONG STICKS, UM, STARTING AT THE BRIDGE, GOING DOWN THROUGH THE STADIUM, JUST LIKE THE 32 OLYMPICS.
UM, AND MOST OF THE ACTIVITY WILL BE AT THE VERY END, UH, WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION IS STILL GOING ON, I BELIEVE.
AND ALL THOSE TEAMS, THEY, IF THEY COME AND TRAIN HERE, WHICH I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THEM WILL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUOYED COURSE THE WHOLE WAY.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER BOATS GOING AROUND AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH.
UM, BUT WE'LL INVITE THEM TO COME, BUT, UM, I DON'T, IT WILL HAVE TO BE WITHIN SO THAT ALL OUR MEMBERS CAN ROW AS WELL.
SO OUR OPPORTUNITY IS MORE A COASTAL.
ANYBODY, UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I WOULD ONE MORE.
YES, JOAN? SO I'M JOAN PALANGO.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE VP OF THE LONG BEACH MARINA BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
THAT USUALLY REPRESENTS THE 3,600 SLIP HOLDERS IN THE MARINA ENTERPRISE SYSTEM.
UM, SO JUST A COUPLE OF, OF OUR PRIORITIES FOR 2025.
ONE IS TO GET A SLIP HOLDER ON THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSION.
SINCE WE PAY 90% OF ALL OF THE EXPENSES OF THE MARINA ENTERPRISE SYSTEM.
OUR NUMBER ONE CANDIDATE HERE IS TIM, WHO MAKES A LOT OF THE CHECK MARKS.
HE'S ON THE BOARD, HE'S A SLIP HOLDER, HE'S A LIVERBOARD, HE'S COME TO A LOT OF THESE MAP MEETINGS, HE'S GOT HIS APPLICATION IN.
SO WE HOPE THAT THERE'LL BE SOME PROGRESS MADE IN THAT.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE OTHER YACHT CLUBS AND STUFF TO TRY TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MAP.
UM, JUST A QUICK THING ABOUT NOBODY CARES, THE ONE PERSON WE'RE WORRIED THIS MORNING, GATHERING YOUR LOVED ONES.
SO JUST A QUICK THING ABOUT BOA IS THAT WE DO HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS AND EITHER TODD OR BRIAN COME EVERY MONTH.
WE HAVE A BOARD DIRECTORS AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES, ADVISORS FROM EACH OF THE YACHT CLUBS.
SO ONE OF OUR ADVANTAGES TO KEEPING ALL EVERYBODY INFORMED IS THAT WE MEET WITH THOSE YACHT CLUB MEMBERS EVERY MONTH, AND SO WE CAN HAVE A QUICKER DIS DISTRIBUTION OF, OF INFORMATION OUT TO THE YACHT CLUBS.
SO AGAIN, IN THAT RESPECT, THAT'S THE OLYMPICS.
THEY'RE COMING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OURSELVES PREPARED.
WE'RE JUST GONNA BE A CONDUIT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ROLE WE HAVE, BUT CERTAINLY THE YACHT CLUBS IN THE VOTING COMMUNITY NEEDS TO HAVE SOME ROLES WITH THE OLYMPICS, THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THEY'RE GONNA START.
I'M ASSUMING, UM, I'VE HEARD CONGRESSIONAL PLACE SHOULD START BY MARCH.
UM, NOT SO SURE ABOUT THE OTHER ONES, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BIG IMPACT ON THE A BM PARKING LOT.
WE HAD MITIGATION MEASURES THAT CHRISTINA DUGAN HAD READ INTO THE, UM, APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE.
AND THEN WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY.
UM, BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THE A ES PUMPS GO DOWN AND THE FISH FRIENDLY FISH, FISH FRIENDLY PUMPS COME UP, THERE'S A COUPLE OF YEAR GAP THERE.
I THINK ONE OF THOSE YEARS IS 2028.
SO WE, I, YOU ALL HAVE MORE IMPACT ON HOW TO MAKE THAT, HOW TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS THEN OBVIOUSLY WE DO.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TRY TO GET THAT ON YOUR RADAR AND, UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OF US MOVE? DO WE ADJOURN.