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WE ARE HERE FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE, UH, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 9TH, 2025 AT, UH, 3 43 3 A, UH, PM I DID THAT.
UH, AND I'M WONDERING, COULD WE HAVE A CALL TO ORDER, PLEASE? YEAH, I'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER LIVINGSTON, PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER LIVING, OR COMMISSIONER REDFIELD HERE.
AND COMMISSIONER YAAR SMITH HERE.
WE HAVE ALL THREE PRESENT AND COURT.
UH, SO I THINK WE CAN IMMEDIATELY GO TO OUR AGENDA OR THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES THAT PARKS AND ION COMMITTEE, COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING OF DECEMBER 12TH, 2024.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE.
AND I WILL SECOND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ALRIGHT, THEN, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, UH, BY COMMISSIONER LIVINGSTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OR SMITH.
UM, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA FOR THE PARKS OF RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF JANUARY 16TH, 2025.
UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
UH, AND DO WE HAVE A, A DISCUSSION? OKAY.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA LOOK AT THE AGENDA? REVIEW IT? SO WHAT KIND OF A STUDY ARE WE GETTING? IS THIS JUST TO RECAP THE, THE ONLINE STUFF THAT'S BEEN GOING ON? OR IS THAT GONNA ACTUALLY BE A PRESENTATION? YEAH, I THINK SHERLY HAS PUT TOGETHER A PRESENT PRESENTATION.
THERE WAS A LOT OF, IT WAS A SIX MONTH, UM, DURATION STUDY.
I KNOW ALL NINE OF THE COUNCIL OFFICES HELPED WITH, UH, PROMOTING AND DISTRIBUTING, UH, THE SURVEY.
WE WERE AT QUITE A NUMBER OF SKATE PARK JAMS AND OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS.
WERE WE ABLE TO ASK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER TAKING THREE TO FIVE MINUTES TO FILL OUT THE STUDY? UH, BUT I THINK IT, SINCE THE TFF, UH, WENT OUT FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON DECEMBER 31ST, THAT LAST DAY OF THE YEAR.
I'VE BEEN, UM, STARTING MY 2025 COUNCIL BRIEFINGS AND JUST TO GET ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THEY'RE ALL VERY PLEASED WITH, UH, THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
AND A LOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY, UM, THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD ADVANCE SOME OF THE POSSIBLE, ARE THEY GONNA FUND THE FIVE AND A HALF MILLION ONE ON THE OCEAN? WELL, THAT WAS INTERESTING HEADLINE GRABBING, UM, CALLING IT THE OLYMPICS SKATE PART ALSO.
BUT YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT OF THE FOUR, UM, CITED LOCATIONS, I THINK THE ONE THAT COULD BE OUT ON THE BEACH FRONT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COASTAL COMMISSION REVIEW APPROVAL PROCESS.
AND THAT ALWAYS TAKES A, A LITTLE LONGER THAN MAYBE AN INLAND PROJECT.
BUT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR LONG BEACH, YOU KNOW, BEING KNOWN FOR OUR BEACH FRONT AND OUR HEALTHY RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, EVENTUALLY SEEING A SKATE PARK OUT ON THE BEACH FRONT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST A NATURAL.
I THINK IT'D BE GREAT, BUT I DON'T, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT WON'T LIKE IT.
HE'LL ALWAYS, WE'LL ALWAYS KEEP WELL ONCE THIS WAS, ONCE THIS WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE MAYOR COUNCIL, IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENTS.
WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS, A LOT OF WORDS OF SUPPORT AND ALSO A BALANCE BY SOME.
IS IT PRETTY BALANCED? I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT JUST CREATES MORE BEACH ACCESS FOR KIDS WHO PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE TRUE.
I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY IT OUT LOUD, BUT A LOT OF BLACK AND BROWN KIDS WHO LIVE HERE IN LONG BEACH BUT CANNOT MAKE THE BEACH A PRIORITY.
SO IT IS ANOTHER ATTRACTION TO GET THEM TO THE OCEAN.
UM, I WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT COMMENT ON ANOTHER TOPIC, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, THE SKATE PARKS IN GENERAL ARE HAVING THEM DESIGNED AND BUILT OR IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY, IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE SKATE PARKS, YOUR WHOLE CITY BECOMES A SKATE PARK.
AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, PARTNERS LIKE THE ASK FOUNDATION THAT THAT'S PROACTIVE WITH PUTTING POSITIVE EVENTS TOGETHER, UM, BRINGING KIDS FROM ALL CORN THE CITIES TOGETHER, THEY BUILD NEW FRIENDSHIPS.
IT'S REALLY COOL IF YOU GO TO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PAST FOUNDATION EVENTS TO TALK TO THE KIDS AND THEY DO, THEY LITERALLY COME FROM ALL CORNERS OF THE CITY, BUT THEY CELEBRATE THEIR SHARED ENJOYMENT OF SKATE
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SKATEBOARDING.BUT THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE, THE REPORT SHOWS THAT, UM, THE ROLLER SKATING COMMUNITY EMBRACES SKATE PARKS TOO.
SO IT REALLY IS KIND OF THE FUNCTIONALITY FOR OTHER SPORTS.
IS, IS THERE AMAZING, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS STILL A ROLLER SKIING COMMUNITY MM-HMM
I THOUGHT IT WAS SKATEBOARDING.
THE, THE ANA PARA SPORTS COURTS WERE HOPEFULLY, I THINK I STARTED BACK IN SEPTEMBER MENTIONING THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS BEING COMPLETED.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT TO COUNCIL MEMBER, FORMER VICE MAYOR NOW COUNCILWOMAN CINDY ALLEN, SHE REALLY WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE PROJECT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE BEFORE WE CELEBRATED IT.
SO I THINK THE SHADE STRUCTURES ARE MANUFACTURED NOW.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE ARRIVED AT.
THE CONTRACTOR WILL NEED SOME TIME TO INSTALL THEM AND THEN WE'LL GET ON THE CALENDAR.
THAT'LL BE A FUN NEW AMENITY OUT IN BEACH FRONT.
SO THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS ON JANUARY 22ND, IT'S A WEDNESDAY, IT ACTUALLY IS CONCURRENT TO THE FIRST COMMUNITY PRIORITY NIGHT, THE BUDGET BUDGET MEETING.
UH, BUT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, A COMMUNITY UPDATE ON THE BELMONT POOL.
SO I'M GONNA BE AT THAT ONE RATHER THAN, UH, RATHER THAN THE BUDGET MEETING.
BUT, UH, THAT ONE, JUST GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER DR.
SMITH'S COMMENT ABOUT BRINGING KIDS TO THE BEACH, THAT'S ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT OUR DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE IS THAT BRINGING YOUTH FROM ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING KIND OF A, A TRANSPORTATION LINK OUT TO THE NEW POOL IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WILL GET MORE KIDS DOWN TO THE BEACH AND THE NEW POOL.
SO THAT'S EXCITING AND A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
IS IT TRUE THAT THE BIGGEST DOWNSIDE OF IF THE SKATE PARK WERE TO TRY TO BE THE BE IS IT IT'S JUST MORE EXPENSIVE DOWN THERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE? YEAH.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET AS MUCH LAND MEAN THE LAND IS THERE.
BUT AS OPPOSED TO BEING, BUILDING THINGS ON SAND.
WHERE IS THIS? WELL, JUST IN, IN THEORY, I THINK THE BIGGEST SUPPORT FOR THE SKATE PARK WAS BEACHFRONT.
I DIDN'T WHERE AT THE BEACH TRUCK? WELL, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE TDA.
I PICTURE THERE WAS A STUDY WHEN, WHEN, UM, MIKE GOLAND WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER MM-HMM
THAT LOOKED AT ALAMITOS BEACH RIGHT IN FRONT OF, UH, VILLA RIVIERA.
AND THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE COUCH IS.
OR IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? WHERE GACHO BEACH IS? GACHO BEACH IS, YEAH.
THE RESTAURANT THAT'S ALSO WHERE THERE'S A BIG EXPANSIVE SANDY BEACH YARD THEY USE FOR LIKE VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS MM-HMM.
SO NOW THAT THIS CONVERSATION'S OUT, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF VERY VOCAL RESIDENTS THAT DON'T SEE ANYTHING DEVELOPED OUT.
'CAUSE IT'S NOISY AND IT'S A CHANGE.
AND THERE IS TRAFFIC AND THERE IS PARKING.
AND THEN I WAS THINKING MUCH MORE DOWN TOWARDS LIKE, THE PIER.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO.
BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHERE POOL'S GONNA BE.
I, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD DOWN THERE THAN IT WOULD BE UPWARDS.
ALTHOUGH YOU, YOU COULD MAKE IT BIGGER WITHOUT IMPACTING YOUR LAND UPWARDS.
WELL, WE WILL ALL PAY ATTENTION.
UM, ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE, UH, WHAT HAD BEEN A NICE DISCUSSION LAST TIME ABOUT, UM, OUR SUBCOMMITTEES.
IS THERE ANY COMMENT OR DISCUSSION ON THAT NOW? OR WHAT, HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THIS? WE WERE GONNA DO SOMETHING WITH THAT, RIGHT, BOB? WELL, I THINK YOU GUYS WERE GONNA SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE CLERK AND ATTORNEY FELT ABOUT THAT.
HAVE WE HEARD FROM THEM OR, YES.
DO YOU WANT TO DO, UM, A MOTION IN A SECOND? OH, IM SORRY.
UH, I THINK WE'VE DONE A MOTION ON THE AGENDA.
DO A MOTION TO DISCUSS, TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA.
BUT NOT FOR, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE.
BUT NOT FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
THAT'S ANOTHER, OH, THAT'S ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM ON OUR, NO, I THINK YOU DID THE MINUTES, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU DID THE AGENDA.
NO, I THOUGHT WE DID THE AGENDA.
DIDN'T WE DO THE AGENDA? I DID.
YEAH, BECAUSE SHE MADE IT AND I WAS SECOND ON.
YEAH, SO WE JUST SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS ITEM TWO.
AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE ITEM TWO IS CORRELATING TO ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA ON FOR TODAY.
SO MADAM CHAIR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE AGENDA.
CORRECT? BECAUSE ALYSSA'S LOOKING AT THAT, WE HAVE A SEPARATE ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO TALK SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO DO WE WANNA JUST HOLD OFF? I DID THE SAME THING.
MAYBE WE JUST HOLD OFF ON THAT PART OF IT UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS. YEAH, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THE MEETING AGENDA.
SO ONE THING IS I WOULD ASK CHRISTINA ON NUMBER SIX, DID WE FIND OUT IF IT IS OKAY TO HAVE, I ASSUME 'CAUSE IT'S HERE THAT IT IS.
SO WHAT GUIDANCE WOULD WE NEED? WE CAN, WE CAN JUST SAY IN GENERAL, SOMEBODY BROUGHT TO ME TOPIC
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XI WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE IN A, A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.BUT WE CAN'T GET INTO REAL DETAILS.
JUST A DISCUSSION OF ANY BRINGING UP TOPIC.
SEE, DISCUSSION MEANS A LOT MORE TO ME THAN IT DOES TO THE CITY CLERK.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN JUST ASK THEM JUST HOW MUCH COULD WE DISCUSS? OKAY.
UM, WITHOUT BEING IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT, WITHOUT FILING THE BROWN ACT.
AND AND YOU INDICATED THIS DISCUSSION WOULD BE ON ITEM SIX.
I THOUGHT YOU MEANT ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS THE NO, NO.
SO ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES, NO, THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO, ON TODAY'S AGENDA, WE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT IS WE ALREADY HAVE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM ON THERE.
NUMBER THREE OF TODAY'S AGENDA.
SO WHERE ARE YOU? I'M, I'M, SO I'M ACTUALLY JUST DISCUSSING THE OVERALL AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK.
AND ITEM SIX IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT HERE.
AND AT THE LAST MEETING, SOMEBODY IS OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND MAKES A COMMENT OR DURING SOMETHING ELSE, SOMEBODY BRINGS IT UP.
AND WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT AT ALL.
SO NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, HEY STAFF, COULD WE GET AN AGENDA ITEM BACK ON BUTTERFLIES OR ON YEAH.
ALMOST LIKE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A COUNCIL ACTION WHERE WHEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUEST MORE INFORMATION.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE SAY, YOU KNOW, A, A RESIDENT CALLED ME AND ASKED ABOUT SOMETHING.
CAN WE JUST SAY, I WOULD LIKE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM END OF IT? OR CAN WE KIND OF GO INTO DISCUSSION WITHOUT VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT? BECAUSE THE TOPIC OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS NOT BEEN AGENDIZED.
SO I LOOK AT DISCUSS AND WHAT WOULD GO BROAD, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT THE CLERK WOULD SAY, YOU CAN STATE THE TOPIC BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
OTHER, OTHER THAN MAYBE WHEN STAFF COMES BACK, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS, AND THIS UNDER THE SAME TOPIC? THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS.
AND SO THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE.
YOU GOT IT, CHRISTINE, TO ASK.
NOW CAN WE DISCUSS FIVE? SO JUST ONE THING I JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, I NEED TO LEAVE THIS, THAT MEETING BY 10 40.
UNLESS THE SKATE PARK THING GOES FOR 35 MINUTES.
OH, I'LL ASK CHAIRMAN TO KEEP IT TO LIGHT.
IS THE SKATE PARK THING ON THE AGENDA OF IT? YEAH, THE FEES UNDER PRESENTATIONS LOOK UNDER PRESENTATIONS.
IT'S AFTER EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
SO LIKE A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FIRST PAGE AND THEN IT'S ON PRESENTATIONS.
YOU MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE ON THE BOTTOM OF THERE.
SO GIMME LIKE NO, JUST BRING IT HERE.
SO WE DISCUSSED THE SKATEBOARD FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THEN WE ARE NOW THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA AND WE'RE DISCUSSING THE REGULAR AGENDA.
AND I WAS GOING TO ITEM FIVE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS ON PAGE TWO.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING, THE NEXT ONE IS TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE SUBDIVISIONS.
SO THIS IS THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
AND NUMBER TWO IS TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA.
AND THEN NUMBER THREE IS TO DISCUSS THE SUBDIVISIONS.
THAT'S WHERE I, I, SO THAT IS MELISSA CAUGHT THAT.
SO UNLESS THERE'S FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF.
UH, LAKEWOOD VILLAGE LITTLE LEAGUE.
IS THAT A RENEWAL I THINK? OR IS THAT NEW IMPROVEMENTS EXTEND THE WRITING.
IT'S A RENEWAL, SO THAT'S EASY.
SO YEAH, OUR, OUR AGENDA LOOKS GOOD.
I'M GLAD FIVE AND SIX ARE ON THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO UH, UH, AIR QUALITY? RIGHT? NO, IT'S AN EVAC IN OUR AREA.
CAN SOMEBODY READ WHAT'S HAPPENING? I'M TRYING TO FIND, IT'S SAYING AN EMERGENCY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH, LET'S SEE IF IT, LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE LINK.
I CAN YOU BRING UP, I SWIPED IT.
AND YOUR PHONE BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
WOULD IT ALSO COME IN AN EMAIL? SHOULD WE PAUSE THE MEETING WHILE WE DEAL WITH THIS EMERGENCY? YEAH, JUST TO SEE WHERE IT'S AT.
WE ARE RESTARTING THE MEETING AFTER A, UH, AN ADJOURNMENT FOR THE EMERGENCY WEATHER RELATED ALERT.
UM, IT'S 4 0 1 NOW AT 4:01 PM AND WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING SCHEDULED.
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THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.CAN I ASK FOR, UH, UM, SO MOVED.
I THINK WE ALREADY JUST, IT'S JUST VOTE YES.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEES COMMITTEES.
AND MAY I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE TO DISCUSS SECOND.
PLEASE DISCUSS, DISCUSS, DISCUSS.
SO WHAT, THE WAY WE LEFT IT IS WE WERE GOING IS THAT WE, WE, I THINK WE WERE GONNA CHECK WITH THE CLERK AND THE ATTORNEY THAT WE WOULD WANTED TO COMBINE FOR ONE, WHICH WE COULD START THEN AT THREE 30.
AND THAT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR YOU.
AND WE COULD JUST HAVE ONE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT IN BETWEEN.
IT'D BE A LITTLE LATER FOR STEVE, BUT YOU WOULD LIKELY BE DONE ON YOURS.
BUT I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION AT THE COMMISSION MEETING.
TO ELIMINATE THE ONES WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE AND CREATE THE ONES WE'RE GONNA CREATE.
SO I THINK WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO COMBINE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCE AND APPEALS COMMITTEE INTO ONE.
I RE-LISTENED AND I, I RECOMMENDED THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK YOU COULD ALSO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON, I THINK GOVERNANCE IS STRONGER.
PERSONALLY, ADMINISTRATION SOUNDS TO, UH, LINDSEY.
AND, UH, WE WERE GOING TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC SAFETY AND PARK USAGE.
WE WERE GOING TO ELIMINATE MARKETING AND RECREATION.
WE WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT ONE COULD MEET WITH WHOEVER OUR NEW PLANNING OFFICER IS.
SO ADD PLANNING AND THEN ELIMINATE THE JOINT USE COMMITTEE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS STAFF CAME TO US AND SAID, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH LONG BEACH UNIFIED AND WE'RE READY TO HAVE A, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO MEET WITH STAFF OR MEET WITH SOMEBODY FROM THEN.
AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE WE FINALLY GOT BACK THE FINAL, FINAL FROM UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY.
BUT BY FORMING THAT AD HOC BETWEEN OH, OKAY.
THURSDAY AND THE FEBRUARY MEETING WOULD BE PERFECT.
IT WOULD HAVE A PURPOSE FOR ITS AD HOC CREATION AND ONCE IT'S DONE, IT'S SENTENCE PERFECT.
SO I, I DO THINK, JUST GIVE A MOMENT HERE, I DO THINK IT IS, I MEAN, GIVEN THE SUCCESS OF THE PARK RANGER PROGRAM, I MEAN MAYBE WE MOVE THAT TO GOVERNANCE.
SO THE, THE, UH, AMBASSADOR, AMBASSADOR OR AMBASSADOR, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT.
I MEAN THAT'S, I MEAN THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS DEFINITELY, I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS, IF WE NEEDED TO, WE COULD JUST MOVE THEM INTO GOVERNANCE WITH MAYBE THE EXCEPTION OF, UM, WELL LET ME ASK BRENT, THIS PARK SAFETY, DO YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT? DO YOU NEED TO BRING ANYTHING TO US ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND HOW IT'S GOING? I MEAN, ALL INDICATIONS ARE, IT'S FANTASTIC AND I THINK THAT IF WE DEFINE THESE COMMITTEES BROADLY, WE COULD INCLUDE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP.
WELL, GENERALLY WHEN SCOTT STEVE MAKES HIS REPORT, UM, WE END UP TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THE IMPACT OF THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND YEAH.
THAT COMES UNDER THE, BECAUSE THAT'S UNDER FINANCE LOST DAMAGE.
SO WE COULD MOVE ALL THREE OF THESE.
THAT WAS A GOOD POINT TO RAISE THOUGH, I THINK.
OKAY, SO, SO WE ARE THEN OUR, I WILL AMEND THE MOTION THAT I MADE THAT IS THAT THE, UH, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WILL RECOMMEND TO THE FULL COMMISSION THAT WE COMBINE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCE AND APPEALS COMMITTEE AND THEIR REGULAR DUTIES INTO A GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.
THAT WE ELIMINATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND PARK USAGE COMMITTEE.
WE, OR ELIMINATE OR DISSOLVE, IF YOU CAN ASK THAT, CHRISTINE, WHICHEVER IT IS.
AND THE MARKETING AND RECREATION COMMITTEE THAT WE CHANGED THE NAME OF THE MAINTENANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE TO ADD IN PLANNING.
SO MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLANNING.
AND THAT WE DISSOLVED THE JOINT USE COMMITTEE AS A STANDING COMMITTEE, BUT WE DO APPOINT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR JOINT USE.
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SO THAT WOULD BE THE NEW MOTION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE SECOND.SO IT'D BE A JOINT USE AD HOC COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD JUST MEET UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE GET SOMETHING THAT THAT PARKS IS GOOD WITH LONG BEACH UNIFIED IS GOOD WITH, AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS READY TO TAKE THE COUNCIL AND THE AD HO COMMITTEE CAN REVIEW ANYTHING, NOT JUST THESE FOUR ITEMS. SO NO, THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE WOULD BE SPECIFIC JUST TO WORKING ON JOINT USE.
BUT I MEAN THESE FOUR ITEMS OR ANY ITEMS OR SHOULD WE ELIMINATE THE FOUR ITEMS? DO YOU RECALL, CHRISTINE, IF WE HAVE TO, FOR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, HAS ANYBODY EVER SAID THAT WE HAVE TO LIKE, HAVE BULLET POINTS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING? OR CAN WE JUST BE BROAD IN SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSING ANYTHING THAT STAFF BRINGS TO US DEALING WITH THE JOINT USE WITH LONG BEACH UNIFIED? THAT WOULD BE MY THING.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED THE BULLET POINTS.
UM, BUT I WAS ADVISED THAT ONCE WE VOTE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AS NEW, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO UPDATE OUR BYLAWS.
UM, SO THAT WE COULD SAVE THIS FOR ANOTHER TIME TOO.
SO WHAT I WOULD DO WITH THAT IS I WOULD JUST REFER THAT TO THE NEW GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE TO DEAL WITH THAT AT ITS NEXT MEETING AND, AND HAVE A PRESENTATION OF REVISED BYLAWS TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION.
THEY JUST CLEARED IT UP AT THE DOC BECKY WAS RIGHT.
SO THE OTHER THING, AND I I THINK YOU CAN DO THIS SINCE YOUR REMINDER EMAIL, IN YOUR EMAIL WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION GOES OUT TO EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY AND YOU TELL THEM TO NOT, UM, REPLY ALL TO HAVE ANYBODY REPLY TO YOU WITH THEIR INTEREST IN THE MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE OR THE JOINT USE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN IF YOU COULD HAVE THAT INTEREST, IDEALLY WE WOULD APPOINT THOSE PEOPLE THAT DAY AND I THINK YOU COULD SHOW THAT TO THE CHAIR.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE READY TO GO ON THIS, THAT WE WOULD THEN APPOINT UP TO FOUR MEMBERS FOR THE JOINT USE COMMITTEE TO, TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A MEETING WITH STAFF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO IF YOU COULD ASK PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR INTEREST IN THOSE AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, PART OF THAT MOTION WOULD THEN BE TO, AND IF YOU CAN ASK THE CLERK OR THE ATTORNEY THIS, I BELIEVE THAT THE CHAIR WOULD HAVE TO APPOINT THOSE PEOPLE AND THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.
AND WE COULD DO THAT UNDER THIS, THIS AGENDA ITEM OF DISCUSSING DISCUSSING SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO WE CAN TAKE THAT ACTION AT THE, DURING THE DISCUSSION? I BELIEVE SO.
THAT BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'VE GENDERIZED IT MM-HMM
AND UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO IS CREATE THIS NEW AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, AND BECAUSE, AND I CAN, YOU MENTIONED, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPT, I'M SORRY.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING YOU CAN GO UP TO FOUR? OKAY.
YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN FOUR, I THINK ON A COMMITTEE.
AT LEAST THREE OR NO? NO, WE CAN'T HAVE FOUR.
WE CAN ONLY HAVE THREE BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN.
UH, AND SO ARE WE STILL DOWN A COMMISSIONER? NOPE, WE'RE FULL.
AND THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS, WE HAVE NOW THREE COMMITTEES OF GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, AND A JOINT USE AD HOC CORRECT GROUP? CORRECT.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SERVE ON A COMMITTEE, BUT IF YOU HAVE INTEREST, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, AND IF SHAR IS INTERESTED IN JOINT USE, SHE MIGHT WANT TO CHECK WITH HER BOSSES IF THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH HER BEING AN L-B-U-S-D EMPLOYEE AND ON THE PARKS ION, I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE WOULD WANT TO BECAUSE I, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST THE FACILITIES, WHICH AS A TEACHER, SOME FACILITIES, BUT NOT REALLY THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
SO I, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF SHE EXPRESSES THAT INTEREST, I THINK SHE SHOULD TALK TO HER BOSSES AND SEE IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT.
HAVEN'T HEARD HER NAME IN A LONG TIME.
SO, UH, THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION.
ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, BOB.
SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN TERMS OF
HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMMITTEE THIS COMMITTEE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO PERSON UP THIS COMMITTEE, IF YOU WILL?
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I MEAN, I CAN CONTINUE.BUT WE'LL STILL NEED A THIRD PERSON.
I MEAN I, MY, MY INTENT WAS TO DO ONE YEAR AND THEN, UM, SO ONE MORE YEAR.
WE HAVE THROUGH THIS YEAR, THROUGH JUNE, I, WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE, COREY HAS A NEW JOB AND CHRIS IS ALWAYS BUSY WITH THIS.
I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY STAY, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAY.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION EVERY YEAR.
OR IS IT TWO YEARS? UM, DO WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN JUNE OR JULY OR AUGUST? FOR THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS OR? NO, FOR, FOR THE CHAIR.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE EACH YEAR.
SO I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS TWO YEARS AND I HAD PLANNED TO DO THIS TWO YEARS.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET RID OF YOU, I DON'T THINK.
OH, I FIGURED SHE'S, I CAN'T, I'M NOT LEGALLY, I'M NOT LEGALLY
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS CAPACITY.
LIKE WE NEED TO NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF LIKE THE COMMISSIONER'S DUTY IS TO SERVE ON A COMMITTEE AND WHILE I LOVE BAR FOLK, LIKE AT SOME POINT, LIKE IT JUST CAN'T BE, YOU SHOW UP FOR MEETINGS, YOU'VE GOTTA DO OTHER WORK.
LIKE THERE HAS TO BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? FOR LIKE THE OVERALL CAPACITY TO FUNCTION ONE YEAR.
SO WE, SO MY INTENTION WAS TO SERVE UNTIL THEN AND THEN WE HAVE REELECTION.
WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE IS FOR BRENT, WHO CAN, CAN TALK TO EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY OR YOU OR JEN ASK AMONG THE OTHERS IF SOMEONE HAS AN INTEREST IN BECOMING THE NEXT VICE CHAIR IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND IF SO, ARE THEY WILLING TO SERVE ON THIS GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE? EITHER STARTING IN JULY.
AND THEN SO ARE WE, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT ARE WE PLANNING THAT I WILL REMAIN FOR THE NEXT YES.
THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR? I I EXPECT YOU TO BE REELECTED.
SHE WILL PROBABLY RUN FOR, YOU KNOW, IT, IT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO HAPPEN AT THAT MEETING.
BUT IF SOMEONE HAS AN INTEREST, MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD GET MORE INVOLVED BY GETTING ON THIS GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN IF TWO PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED AWESOME.
AND WE CANNOT DO TWO BECAUSE THAT'S TOO MANY.
NO, BUT SOME WE COULD HAVE LIKE A, A ARM WRESTLING OR SOMETHING FOR WHAT? RACE WRONG WORKS FOR ME.
SKATEBOARDING HAVE, HAVE DONLIN HAVE A SKATEBOARDING COMPETITION.
THAT WAS A VERY EXCELLENT DISCUSSION.
UM, AND WE ARE NOW AT, UH, POINT IN THIS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ACTUALLY WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
TABLE, UH, ABOUT ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UH, UM, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ORIE SMITH.
THAT SECOND, NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY MADE BY ME.
I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LIVINGSTON AND FALSE DISREGARD.
UM, CITY LONG BEACH IS LIKE, OH DEAR.
SO, UH, MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LIVINGSTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARI ORI SMITH.
NOW WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT IS PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE PARKS OF RECREATION COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS UNLESS EXTENDED BY THE CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE? NO, WE DO NOT.
AND AT THIS TIME ARE THERE ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? COMMENTS, STAFF COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? JUST A COMMENT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT IT IS A CRAZY DAY AND WE WISH ALL OF OUR FELLOW LA COUNTIANS ALL THE BEST AND WE ARE PRAYING FOR THEM.
UM, AND WE DID DISCUSS, UH, DURING THE FINANCE MEETING THAT WE WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR FIREMEN, OUR FIRE PERSONS, UH, THE HEROES THAT THEY ARE, AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE DEALING WITH THIS.
AND, UM, WITH THAT WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS AT, UH, 4:16 PM.