* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] OKAY, LEMME STARTED. GOOD EVENING. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MADAM CLERK? COMMISSIONER BENDER. COMMISSIONER BROWN. [CALL TO ORDER] COMMISSIONER ACH. COMMISSIONER ROCO PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SOTO, PRESENT, TNI PRESIDENT, CHAIR, PARKIN PRESENT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. IF WE COULD, UM, CALL THE FIRST ITEM, PLEASE. ITEM ONE. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, 2024. COULD I GET A MOTION ON THE MINUTES? SO MOVED. [1. 25-53974 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Police Oversight Commission meeting of Thursday, October 10, 2024.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] SECOND. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES SCENE? NONE. CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE. I'M GONNA ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST. UH, IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM. SEEING NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. I COMMISSIONER SODA. HIS SCREEN, HIS SCREEN. YOU WANNA GIMME A VERBAL? YES. MOTION CARRIES. GO BACK. OKAY. MAY WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE? MADAM CLERK, ITEM TWO. RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE [2. 25-53975 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation on the Office of Police Oversight’s Interface on Critical Incidents.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT INTERFACE ON CRITICAL INCIDENTS. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAVE A MOTION. CAN I GET A SECOND PLEASE? PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, GOOD. UH, GOOD EVENING. FRANCINE CARRIAGE, OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT DIRECTOR. UH, TODAY WE'RE PRESENTING THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, OR OPO INTERFACE ON CRITICAL INCIDENTS. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A REFRESHER. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE, UH, COMMISSION MEETINGS. SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, DEFINING A CRITICAL INCIDENT IS IMPORTANT IN THIS SITUATION. SO UNDER CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 6 2 5 4 F FOR C, AN INCIDENT INVOLVING A DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM AT A PERSON BY A PEACE OFFICER, AN INCIDENT IN WHICH USE OF FORCE BY A PEACE OFFICER AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON, RESULTS IN DEATH, OR GREAT BODILY INJURY. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO DEFINITIONS THAT WE'LL BE USING MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PRESENTATION. UM, IN THE CHARTER LANGUAGE FOR THE OPO AND THE APPOINTMENT OF THE OPO DIRECTOR, THE AREAS THAT ARE USED FOR INVESTIGATION AND REVIEW IS, UM, INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE CHIEF OR COMMAND STAFF AND OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING AND IN CUSTODY, DEATH, OR OTHER CRITICAL INCIDENTS UPON THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE REVIEW ALL MAJOR USES OF FORCE INCIDENTS AGAINST THE PERSON RESULTING IN DEATH OR A GREAT BODILY INJURY, AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE SCENE OF A CRITICAL INCIDENT TO OBSERVE THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLING OF THAT INCIDENT INVESTIGATION. SO THE PROCESS OF RESPONSE, THE WAY THAT WE ARE INFORMED OF A CRITICAL INCIDENT, TYPICALLY IS THAT THE DIRECTOR IS NOTIFIED BY THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS COMMANDER. UH, WE'RE TOLD OF THE LOCATION AND WE HAVE A VERY HIGH LEVEL PREVIEW OF WHAT THE INCIDENT IS AT THE TIME, AND WE'RE TOLD TO RESPON WHERE TO RESPOND. AND WE USUALLY MEET UP WITH THE COMMANDER OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS TO COORDINATE A WALKTHROUGH WITH THE OPL STAFF AND THAT COMMANDER. SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE PERFORM THE WALKTHROUGH, IT'S TO GAIN FAMILIARITY OF THE INCIDENT SCENE, TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAYOUT, SO THAT WHEN WE REVIEW THE CASE IN ITS ENTIRETY AFTER THE FACT, WE'RE MORE AWARE OF, UM, THE AREA AND WHAT'S IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WELL THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE UNDER CONSIDERATION. UM, TYPICALLY A FEW HOURS LATER WE WILL HAVE A WALKTHROUGH OF THE SCENE AND, AND THEN WE'RE MET WITH THE HOMICIDE DETECTIVES AND WE GO OVER A HIGH LEVEL, UH, BRIEFING OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CALL AND WHAT LED UP TO THE CRITICAL INCIDENT. AND THEN WE ALSO REVIEW, REVIEW ANY [00:05:01] INVOLVED OFFICERS OR PERTINENT BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE OF THE INCIDENT AT THAT TIME AT THE SCENE. SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT ONCE THE WHOLE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION IS DONE AND BY COMPLETE FOR OUR STANDARDS OF REVIEW, IT'S ONCE THE, UM, ENTIRE CASE IS SENT BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE DA'S OFFICE, I WILL TOUCH ON THAT TIMELINE SHORTLY. IN A FEW SLIDES, THE OFFICE WILL RECEIVE THE CASE IN ITS ENTIRETY. THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL BODY-WORN CAMERA, ALL REPORTS, ANY FILES THAT WERE MADE IN ANY DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT INVESTIGATION. SO ON THIS SLIDE, IT DISCUSSES WHO RESPONDS TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS. SO THE HOMICIDE DIVISION, UH, RESPONDS OUT TO THE CRITICAL INCIDENT, AND THEY ARE THE PRIMARY INVESTIGATORS, AND THEY CONDUCT THE INVESTIGATION THAT WILL BE TURNED INTO THE DA'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW. THE DA'S OFFICE ALSO SENDS MEMBERS OF THEIR JSI TEAM, WHICH IS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INTEGRITY DIVISION. THEY ARE THERE TO WRITE A REPORT AND ALSO REVIEW IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OF CRIMINAL LAW THAT MAY HAVE OCCURRED BY THE OFFICERS. UM, THEIR INVESTIGATION COMES AFTER THE HOMICIDE TEAM SENDS IT OVER AND THEY GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS. THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE THAT'LL COME LATER ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT THAT JSIC GOES THROUGH WITH THE DA'S OFFICE. YOU'LL ALSO HAVE RESPONSE FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. THEY'RE THERE TO REPRESENT THE OFFICERS THAT ARE INVOLVED. INTERNAL AFFAIRS RESPONSE. THEY'RE THERE FOR POTENTIAL ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS THAT MIGHT TAKE PLACE. UM, OPO IS PRESENT AS WELL TO MONITOR THE INVESTIGATION AS PART OF OUR REVIEW AND THE PROCESS THAT WE DEAL WITH DURING CRITICAL INCIDENTS. AND IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU MAY ALSO HAVE THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT COULD RESPOND IF THE PERSON IS KILLED AND THEY ARE CONSIDERED UNARMED AT THE TIME OF THEIR DEATH. SO THIS IS A TIMELINE THAT I PUT TOGETHER JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, UH, WHAT TYPICALLY COULD HAPPEN. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S NO TWO INCIDENTS THAT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. AND THE NUMBERS THAT I, UM, USED AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THE ARROWS ARE, IS BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN THROUGH THE TIME OF DOING THE WORK. SO THE CRITICAL INCIDENT OCCURS AND IMMEDIATELY THE INVESTIGATION STARTS. UM, THE HOMICIDE TEAM STARTS THE INVESTIGATION AND THEY START PUTTING TOGETHER THE CASE TO BE FORWARDED TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THAT COULD TAKE ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO 12 MONTHS IS WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT GOES INTO THIS PROCESS COULD INCLUDE, UH, FORENSICS, IT COULD INCLUDE TOXICOLOGY, UM, THE PROCESSING OF ANY MATERIAL EVIDENCE THAT COULD BE CELL PHONE RECORDS. ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE MIGHT HAVE TO GO INTO, UM, AN INVESTIGATION WOULD BE PART OF THE PACKET THAT THEY WOULD PUT TOGETHER. AND THE INVESTIGATION IS NOT TYPICALLY FORWARDED UNTIL ALL THOSE PIECES ARE PUT IN. UM, WITHIN THE FIRST 48 HOURS TO A WEEK OF THE INCIDENT TAKING PLACE, THERE'S A CRITICAL INCIDENT DEBRIEF THAT TAKES PLACE. UM, AND IT'S GIVEN BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OUR TEAM IS A PART OF THAT. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ALSO IS A PART OF IT. UM, THERE ARE OTHER FACETS OF, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DEBRIEFED ON THE INCIDENT ITSELF. DURING THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT DEBRIEF, WE'RE GIVEN A, UM, A BRIEFING OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT LED UP TO IT, ANY HISTORY THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN AT THE TIME OF THE SCENE. UM, AND THEY ALSO GO THROUGH THE 9 1 1 CALLS. ANY CALLS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM, UM, WITNESSES, OTHER OFFICERS, THE CAD CALL THAT'S BRIEFED AT THE SCENE AS WELL. AND FROM THIS INCIDENT DEBRIEF, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT THERE MIGHT BE SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT WILL COME OUT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IMMEDIATELY REVIEWED. SO, UM, SOME THINGS MAY NEED ADDRESSING PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION. EXCUSE ME. SO ONCE HOMICIDE IS DONE WITH THE INVESTIGATION AND IT'S SENT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE DA WILL THEN COMPLETE AND CONDUCT THEIR INVESTIGATION. UM, THE AVERAGE TIME, BASED ON WHAT I LOOKED AT ON THEIR WEBSITE IS APPROXIMATELY A YEAR. BUT THERE WERE SOME CASES THAT WERE RECENTLY CLOSED. THEY WERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD. UM, SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE CASE, HOW COMPLEX IT IS. I KNOW THAT FOR A WHILE THEY HAD A LOT OF, UM, BACKLOG BECAUSE OF COVID. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP TO DEAL WITH THAT. BUT THERE WERE SOME, LIKE I SAID RECENTLY, THERE WERE ABOUT FROM 2019, UM, SOME PRETTY OLD CASES THAT THEY'RE JUST NOW CLOSING OUT WITH FINDINGS. UM, IF THERE ARE CHARGES THAT ARE FILED AGAINST THE OFFICER, THEN IT GOES THE PATH OF, [00:10:01] UH, THE COURT SYSTEM REGARDING CASES AND, UM, WHATEVER THAT SYSTEM GOES THROUGH. IF THERE ARE NO CHARGES THAT ARE FILED, THEN THE CASE WILL BE RETURNED BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL THEY THEN HAVE A SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD? UM, THE SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD CAN TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS THEIR FINDING. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW LONG, UM, THE INVESTIGATION IS TAKEN WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND THE SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE SHOOTING IS WITHIN OR OUTSIDE OF POLICY. SO THE DA LOOKS AT LAW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT POLICY ONCE THE SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD IS DONE, AND OPO IS PRESENT FOR THAT AS WELL. UM, WE WILL RECEIVE THE ENTIRETY OF THE CASE TO REVIEW NOT ONLY FOR POLICY, BUT ALSO FOR PROCESS, UM, PROCEDURES AND ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT MAY BE OF COMMUNITY CONCERN. SO THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS FOR YOUR OWN REVIEW. IT'S JUST A FLOW CHART INTO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S, UH, INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS. SO I'M NOT GONNA READ THAT. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE REGARDING THE CHARTER LANGUAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AND THEIR POWERS AND DUTIES UNDER PROVISION A, BASICALLY THE COMMISSION GIVES INPUT TO OPO REGARDING SETTING AUDITING PRIORITIES, REVIEW AND APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE OFFICE. B IS TO SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION. C WOULD BE PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON ANNUAL REPORTS. D IS TO EDUCATE AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BRING COMMUNITY CONCERNS FORWARD, UH, TO THE OPO REGARDING THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND E WOULD BE RECEIVED BRIEFINGS ON HIGH PROFILE CRITICAL INCIDENTS. SO DURING 2024, UH, THERE WERE EIGHT CRITICAL INCIDENTS. THERE WERE SEVEN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND ONE IN CUSTODY DEATH. UM, THE LPO RESPONDED TO SIX OF THE SEVEN. UM, AND THE IN CUSTODY DEATH, WE WERE NOTIFIED OF THE INCIDENT AND THERE WAS NOT A LOCATION TO ACTUALLY RESPOND TO. BUT PER OUR CHARTER, WE WILL REVIEW THAT INCIDENT. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION VICE CHAIR? SO, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW MANY, UH, IN HOW MANY CASES ARE STILL IN THE BACKLOG? UH, IF WE DON'T, THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD GET THAT SENSE SO THAT WE CAN GET A SENSE OF THE NEW CASES MOVING FORWARD. I CAN DO THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. I DO KNOW THAT, UH, LAST YEAR PRIOR TO THE OFFICE COMING, UM, CREATION THERE, I BELIEVE SIX OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS. SO THOSE WOULD'VE TAKEN PLACE PRIOR TO US COMING ON. UM, WE RECENTLY ATTENDED A SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD, WHICH MEANS THAT THE CASE WAS COMPLETED AND THAT CASE WAS FROM 2022. 22. OH YEAH. COMMISSIONER SOTO. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION, UH, DIRECTOR CARRIAGE. UM, A FEW QUESTIONS. JUST BEAR WITH ME IF I'M GETTING TOO LONG-WINDED. CUT ME OFF . UM, BUT NO PROBLEMS. I DISCUSSED FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THE INTERNAL MECHANISMS WITH WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, WHATEVER THE, SO IS IT HOMICIDE THAT'S, THAT'S INVESTIGATING ANY, ANY OYS? YES. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A SEPARATE USE OF FORCE INVESTIGATION DIVISION OR INTERNAL AFFAIRS, SOME SORT OF, UM, UM, BUREAU OR WHATEVER, UM, DIVISION WITHIN INVESTIGATIVE IA THAT'S INVESTIGATING THOSE JUST STICK WITH HOMICIDE? YEAH. NO, THEY DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE USE OF FORCE DIVISION. OKAY. AND IS IT GENERALLY THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE DA TO MAKE THEIR CALL BEFORE THEY EVEN GET IN, YOU KNOW, START THEIR INVESTIGATION IN EARNEST OR THERE, IS THERE SOMETIMES MORE OVERLAP OR WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE GENERAL PRACTICE? IT'S OVERLAP. SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART, CORRECT. SO THERE IS OVERLAP AND THE SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD COULD HAPPEN PRIOR TO THE DA'S FINDINGS COMING OUT. UM, A LOT OF WHAT IS LOOKED AT HAPPENS WITHIN THE FIRST 48 HOURS TO ONE WEEK, WHICH IS AT THE CRITICAL INCIDENT DEBRIEF. AND AT THAT TIME, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT COMES FORWARD, THEY START DISSECTING THE INCIDENT TO SEE IF THERE ARE SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT NEED TO COME OUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS IMMEDIATELY KNOWN. SO, UM, [00:15:01] THINGS ARE STARTING TO BE ADDRESSED WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE INCIDENT. AND DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE OF, SOUNDS LIKE THE DA FOR A NUM NUMBER OF REASONS COULD BE DRAGGING ON, ON THEIR END. MM-HMM . UM, IN THE MEANWHILE, ARE THE OFFICERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN YS IS, ARE SOME OF 'EM BACK TO WORK FULL TIME OR SOME OF 'EM BENCHED OR SOME OF 'EM GETTING PAID TO NOT WORK? WHILE THIS IS ALL GOING ON, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW, HOW THAT'S SHAKING OUT? AS FAR AS I KNOW, TYPICALLY, UNLESS THERE'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS IMMEDIATELY CONCERNING, WHICH THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD RECOGNIZE. IF THERE TENDS TO BE SOME EXTREMELY ALARMING BEHAVIOR BY OFFICERS DURING A CRITICAL INCIDENT, THEY COULD BE PUT ON ADMIN LEAVE. UM, THEY COULD BE REASSIGNED OR THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE BACK TO WORK. IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. GOT IT. AND THE SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN LIKE WHAT THAT IS? LIKE WHO MAKES THAT UP AND, AND WHAT AND, AND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ADJUDICATE A, I GUESS A USE OF FORCE, UM, PRESENTATION? HOW, HOW THEY ADJUDICATE AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE END RESULT IS OF THE EVER BOARD? SO THE SHOOTING REVIEW BOARD IS, UH, MADE UP, I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT OF MEMBERS. THERE'S ONLY SO MANY MEMBERS THAT ARE VOTING MEMBERS. YOU'LL HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE TRAINING STAFF. UM, YOU WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY FROM, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH. ALL THE DEPUTY CHIEFS ARE THERE. SO THE CHIEF'S EXECUTIVE TEAM, YOU'LL HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESENT. SOMEONE FROM OPL WOULD BE PRESENT. YOU ALSO HAVE PEER OFFICERS, UM, TO GET PERSPECTIVE AT THE SAME RANK AND FILE OF THE OFFICER INVOLVED. THEY'RE A PART OF THE VOTING MEMBERS. UM, I THINK I MENTIONED TRAINING, AND THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TACTICS, POLICY, EQUIPMENT, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF WHAT MAY POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ABOUT WHAT LED UP TO IT. SO THEY TALK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE ISSUES PRE SHOOTING, DURING THE SHOOTING AND POST SHOOTING. UM, AND THEY LOOK AT IS THERE ANY NEED FOR ADJUSTMENT WITH POLICY? IS THERE ANY NEED FOR ADJUSTMENT WITH EQUIPMENT? UM, IS THERE ANY NEED FOR TRAINING ADJUSTMENTS, UM, PROCESS, DO WE NEED TO PUT OUT MORE INFORMATION TO THE OFFICERS REGARDING THIS ONE PARTICULAR THING? SO ONCE THEY GET THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, THE NON-VOTING MEMBERS LEAVE, THE CHIEF ALSO LEAVES, AND THEY HAVE A VOTE WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL THE, UM, INCIDENT WAS WITHIN OR OUTSIDE OF POLICY BASED ON THE POLICY AT THE TIME. AND THEN THEY, THEY PRESENT THAT TO THE CHIEF AND THEN THE CHIEF MAKES THE FINAL DETERMINATION. AND, AND, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD AS WELL, IF THERE ARE ISSUES OR CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ACTIONS SURROUNDING POLICY, THEY COULD DECIDE TO OPEN AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION AT THAT TIME TO THEN LOOK AT POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF POLICIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHOOTING. AND OPO IS NOT A VOTING MEMBER OF THAT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE, WE WOULD REVIEW THE CASE ONCE THEY ARE DONE IN THEIR ENTIRETY, AND THEN ADDRESS ALL THOSE SAME ISSUES SEPARATELY FROM THE GROUP. SO, AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR REVIEW AND, AND WRITING A REPORT ON EACH INDIVIDUAL INVESTIGATION, CORRECT. OIS OR ANY CRITICAL INCIDENT? CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OCO, DIRECTOR CARRIAGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. UH, MY QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY ON THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION. SO I'M INTERESTED IN, UH, THE SOLICITING INPUT AND EDUCATION ASPECT OF IT. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? MAYBE BY LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONS HAVE DONE AND WHAT, UH, ROLE COMMISSIONERS SPECIFICALLY WOULD HAVE IN THAT? SO PART OF WHAT WE COVERED AND TALKED ABOUT AT THE EARLY ONSET OF US KIND OF PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING, IS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THERE'LL BE DIFFERENT TOUCH POINTS WHERE THE OFFICE WILL BRING EITHER AN ANNUAL PORT FORWARD. UM, OUR PLAN IS TO ALSO HAVE QUARTERLY, UM, CASE INVESTIGATION REPORTS BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE OFFICE IS DOING RIGHT NOW TO BUILD THAT HAPPENS. THE ANNUAL REPORT HAPPENS ONCE A YEAR. UH, THE CASES THAT WE'RE REVIEWING, REVIEWING FOR QUALITY ASSURANCE, WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE COMPLAINTS OR OTHER TYPES OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET FROM PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, UM, IT IS OUR EXPECTATION TO PRESENT THOSE EVERY THREE MONTHS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS MORE IMMEDIATELY. AND WE DON'T WANNA WAIT TILL THE ONE YEAR POINT IF WE'RE SEEING DEFICIENCIES IN SOME OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A MECHANISM TO SAY, WHEN WE BRING, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD, NOT ONLY THROUGH, UM, THE OPL WEBSITE, BUT TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, HEY, THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE THAT ARE ISSUES OR CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WE [00:20:01] ADDRESS THESE? SOME THINGS WILL CLEARLY BE HANDLED BASED ON, UM, NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLICIES OR PROCESS. BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY VIOLATIONS, BUT ARE CONCERNING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW THE POLICE ARE INTERFACING WITH THEM, THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET THAT FEEDBACK DIRECTLY. SOME OF THAT WE SEE IN CASES, UM, THROUGH COMPLAINTS, BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS MAKING A COMPLAINT THAT HAS CONCERNS. AND SO YOU SEE COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY GOING OUT WITH, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT OR WITH, WITH YOUR, WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, TAKING A LEAD ON THOSE PRESENTATIONS OR? I, I, I WANT TO GET KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT, SO WE COULD HAVE COMMISSION MEETINGS OUT IN, IN THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST IN CIVIC CHAMBERS. UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO A, A ROLLOUT OF OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU CAN SEE MY, MY STAFF IS A LITTLE, LIKE, WE'RE STILL BUILDING STAFF, SO IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. I'LL GIVE THAT UPDATE LATER IN THE, IN THE, UM, THE COMMISSION MEETING. BUT WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO WHERE THE PUBLIC IS, WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITIES, THEN CLEARLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO OUT THERE AND HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YOU GUYS ALSO BRING INFORMATION TO US IF YOU HEAR THINGS OF CONCERN, UM, AND WE JUST ADDRESS 'EM MOVING FORWARD. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? COMMISSIONER? GO AHEAD. SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY ONE ADDITIONAL POINT. YEAH. UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE INVOLVED, UM, FROM THE, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING DOING WALKTHROUGHS AND DO AGAIN, THE, THE BRIEFINGS AND ALL THAT, UM, ARE THERE, DO YOU ENVISION OPPORTUNITIES TO BE CRITICAL OF CERTAIN POINTS THAT, THAT, THAT THAT DEMAND, UH, MORE IMMEDIATE ACTION, UM, RATHER THAN WAITING, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FIVE YEARS FOR, FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO BE COMPLETED? YES. SO THAT, THAT IS THE PLAN RIGHT NOW. UM, THEY'RE FROM OUR FIRST YEAR OF BEING FORWARD, WE HAVE GATHERED A FEW, QUITE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE RESPONDED TO. UM, BECAUSE WE ARE A BRAND NEW OFFICE, WE'RE TRYING TO CRAFT THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS, UH, THESE ISSUES. IS IT IN AN ANNUAL REPORT? IS IT IN A SPECIAL REPORT FOR EACH INCIDENT? UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PREPARED TO POSSIBLY BRING THEM FORWARD IN THE ANNUAL REPORT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE INVESTIGATION TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC. UM, WE CAN'T GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS OF CERTAIN THINGS. SO MORE WILL COME TO LIGHT AFTER WE GET THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION TO REVIEW. BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS MOST IMMEDIATELY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS. AND JUST ONE LAST, LAST FOLLOW UP, UM, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE SOME CONTEXT. IS SEVEN, OR NOW I GUESS EIGHT, YOU INCLUDE THE CUSTODY. DOES EIGHT INCIDENTS, IS THAT TYPICAL FOR LONG BEACH? IS THAT A LITTLE HIGHS? IS IT BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING? THAT'S AVERAGE. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE FOLLOW UP. FOR THE REVIEW BOARD AND THE INVESTIGATION. THERE'S THE POLICE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS THAT REQUIRES CHARGES TO BE BROUGHT WITHIN 12 MONTHS. UM, HOW DOES THAT FIT WITH THE REVIEW BOARD IF IT'S WAY AFTER THE 12, 12 MONTHS? SO, BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION IS NOT NECESSARILY OPEN AT THE TIME, SO THERE'S A PROCESS OF THE INVESTIGATION OF THE ACTUAL CRIME, IF YOU WILL, THAT TOOK PLACE OF THE OIS. UM, ONCE THEY'RE AWARE THAT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL OF A POLICY VIOLATION, SO IF THEY RECOGNIZE THAT IN WEEK ONE OR TWO DURING THE CRITICAL INCIDENT DEBRIEF, THEN TYPICALLY THEY NEED TO START THAT ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION. UM, THEY DO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF TOLLING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, POLICE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS ALLOWS WHERE THEY CAN PAUSE THE TIMELINE IF THEY THINK THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL OF CRIMINAL CHARGES, UM, OR THERE'S A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION COMPONENT THAT'S TAKEN PLACE. SO UNTIL THAT'S DONE, YOU CAN KIND OF PAUSE THE TIMELINE AND THAT'S ALLOWED, AND IT KIND OF COMES TO MY POINT ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, I THINK IN THE NEXT ITEM WHERE WE NEED TO KNOW WHY IT TAKES SO LONG FOR SOME OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE MAYBE THE PUBLIC THINKS. AND I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE A LOT QUICKER. YEAH. SO I, I THANK YOU. UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE COMMISSION COMMENTS, UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE COMMISSION? IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM NOW. SCENE NUN CHECK. OKAY. FOR ITEM TWO, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. UM, TONIGHT, KEN FACE SIX DISTRICT RESIDENT. UM, [00:25:01] I WAS LOOKING AT, I HAD, MY APOLOGIES. I HAD TO TAKE A WORK CALL OUTSIDE. I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT RELATION TO THE TIMELINE THAT I, I SAW YOU GUYS, UH, SOMEONE SENT IT TO ME. UM, AT WHAT POINT IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BEING CONTACTED, UH, WITH RESPECT TO VICTIMS OF HIT SHOOTINGS? BECAUSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THERE'S SOME TYPE OF DISCREPANCY WITH RELATION TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE TO, UH, HIT SHOOTINGS. UH, THERE'S OFTENTIMES A COUPLE DAYS, UM, UH, A DELAY, AND AS A RESULT, THERE'S, UH, UM, THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS A OFFICE WITH RESPECT TO INTERNALLY WITH RESPECT TO VIOLENCE, UH, GUN VIOLENCE. AND, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE LOOP ALL THE TIME. SO IN LIGHT OF EVEN MORE RECENT INCIDENTS, UH, THEY ONLY GET AN ALERT, UH, FROM THE DISPATCH SOMETIMES TWO TO THREE DAYS AFTERWARDS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T GRIEF, UH, OR, OR MENTAL, UH, HEALTH, UM, SERVICES BEING PROVIDED TO THE FAMILIES OR EVEN THE, THE, THE VICTIMS IN THESE, IN INCIDENTS. AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO SEE, WAS THE COMMISSION AWARE OF THIS OR EVEN WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE HOURS, UH, FOLLOWING ANY HIT SHOOTINGS? SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. KAFE. ANY, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, IF WE COULD, UM, HAVE A VOTE ON THE ITEM PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. UM, BEFORE WE TAKE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO WELCOME OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, CHARLENE BENDER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. AND, UH, TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. IT IS, THANK YOU. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. AH, THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. UM, SO THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I HAVE BEEN AN ATTORNEY FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS. I SPENT, UH, ABOUT 14 YEARS OF MY CAREER IN THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS A PROSECUTOR, HANDLING SERIOUS AND VIOLENT FELONIES, UM, SEXUAL ASSAULT. UM, I HAVE ALSO DONE CRIMINAL DEFENSE WORK AND AM NOW IN PRIVATE PRACTICE. UM, I HAVE LIVED IN LONG BEACH FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS. I'VE SERVED ON, UM, I'M ON THE LIBRARY BOARD AND I HAVE SERVED PREVIOUSLY IN A VOLUNTEER CAPACITY. SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE, UM, AS WE ARE BUILDING THIS OUT, AND TO CONTINUE TO HELP TO MAKE LONG BEACH A BETTER CITY FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES HERE. THANKS. THANK YOU. AND WELCOME. IF WE COULD CALL THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE. ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A, A DISCUSSION ON THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION STRATEGIC PLAN. THANK YOU. I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE. THANK YOU AGAIN. UM, FRANCINE CAR OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT DIRECTOR. THIS IS AN UPDATE. UM, AS WE MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, PART OF THE CHARGE OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION IS TO SET THE AUDITING PRIORITIES FOR THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. UH, JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE. SO WE WERE ALL EXCITED AT OUR LAST MEETING BECAUSE WE HAD HIRED AN AUDITOR THAT WAS GONNA SET US ON OUR COURSE. [3. 25-53976 Recommendation to receive and file a discussion on Police Oversight Commission Strategic Planning.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] UH, AN OFFER WAS MADE, AN OFFER WAS ACCEPTED, THE PERSON'S JOB OFFERED THEM MORE MONEY TO STAY. WE DON'T HAVE AN AUDITOR, SO, UM, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BACK TO SQUARE ONE. UM, WE ARE NOT DETERRED. WE ARE A MIGHTY OFFICE OF FOUR. WE, UM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO FIVE, SOON TO BE FOUR. UM, ANOTHER STORY, UH, WE HAVE OUTSOURCED AND WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A, UM, A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND DO THE FIRST AUDIT. SO WE SENT OUT SOME HOMEWORK TO SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY RETURNED IT. I WILL NOT CALL NAMES FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY DID NOT. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD. SO FOR OUR FIRST AUDIT OF THE COMMISSION'S, UH, [00:30:01] WORK, THE FIRST AUDIT OF THE OFFICE IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THE PROCESS OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND THEIR COMPLAINT PROCESS. UM, AS IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE TIMELINE CURRENTLY FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS TO CLOSE A CASE COMPLAINT, UH, WHETHER IT BE FROM THE COMMUNITY OR WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, IS ABOUT 10 MONTHS. BETWEEN 10 AND 11 MONTHS. UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO IMPOSE POTENTIAL DISCIPLINE TO AN OFFICER IF THERE IS A VIOLATION OF POLICY IS EXACTLY ONE YEAR. SO, UM, THE BACKLOG OF CASES THAT WE'VE NOTICED HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC WITH THE LEVEL OF, UH, TRUST THAT COMES FORWARD BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE. THE LEVEL OF TRUST THAT IS BUILT FOR PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD TO MAKE COMPLAINTS. UM, PEOPLE WILL OFTEN COMPLAIN AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THIS WAS DONE SIX, SEVEN MONTHS AGO. AND WHAT TYPICALLY THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE OVERSIGHT PRACTICE IS IF PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SYSTEM, THEN THEY STOP USING IT. SO ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES AT THE VERY ONSET OF, UM, ME STARTING TO BUILD THIS OFFICE OUT IS TO GET THAT ADJUSTED. SO WE HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH A CONSULTANT, UM, THAT IS LOCAL TO THE AREA. IT'S THE OIR GROUP. UM, THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH LOOKING INTO, UH, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF POLICE DEPARTMENT DEFICIENCIES AND COMING FORWARD WITH BEST PRACTICES. THEY ANTICIPATE THAT AUDIT WILL TAKE A FEW MONTHS ONCE WE CAN GET THEM UP AND RUNNING, AND THEY WILL COME TO A PRESENTATION TO, UM, THE COMMISSION WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ATTACHED THAT WE WILL PRESENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I DID WANT TO START WITH THAT UPDATE BEFORE I GO INTO THIS, UH, POWERPOINT. BUT BUILDING UP THE COMMISSION AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY THE COMMISSION IS INTENTIONAL AND THAT IT'S PLANNED OUT, IS ONE OF THE MAIN FACTORS OF HOW I ENVISION THIS COMMISSION WORKING. SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS SOME OF THE TACTICS THAT WILL GET US TO THE STRATEGY. SO THE STRATEGY OF THE COMMISSION, UH, SHOULD BE TO IMPROVE PUBLIC TRUST BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY THROUGH OPO. AND THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS BY SETTING OUR AUDITING PRIORITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE APPROPRIATE THINGS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE ALSO WANT TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS ENHANCED TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE TAKE PLACE. SO KEEPING IN MIND THAT, UM, THROUGH MEASURE E AND THE PROCESS THAT CAME FORWARD TO BRING THE OFFICE TO BE, THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT TO THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY POLISH CHANGE. UM, SO WE TOOK THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH THE STRATEGY OF THE EXPECTATIONS OF OUR OFFICE AND THE COMMISSION. SO THIS STRATEGIC PLAN WAS NOT HALF COOKED, NOR WAS IT NOT ALREADY TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD. WE CAN OBVIOUSLY PIVOT WHEN NECESSARY IF THINGS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY THERE, WE ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH THE COMMISSIONS, UM, MISSION, VISIONS AND VALUES. WE'RE GONNA TRY AND TACKLE THIS IN BITE-SIZED PIECES WHILE THE AUDIT IS IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, BEING CARRIED OUT TILL WE CAN PRESENT IT FORWARD. SO I THINK FAST FORWARD, UM, PATRICK HANDED OUT. WE CREATED ONE AND, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER SOTO HAD SOME EDITS. I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT THIS IS, UM, WHAT WE CREATED FOR THE COMMISSION. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS EITHER INPUT ANY CHANGES THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD TAKE PLACE, AND WE WANNA MOVE IT FORWARD. SO WE CAN START OFF WITH THE MISSION'S, VISIONS, AND VALUES GO BACK TO THE MISSION. SO ANY PARTICULAR EDITS OUTSIDE OF WHAT COMMISSIONER SOTO HAD ADDED TO THE MISSION, OR WERE YOU HAPPY WITH THIS? OKAY. SO BASICALLY ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS COMMENTS, AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL LATER. 'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY APPROVING THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO IF THERE'S ANY, THIS IS TIME FOR DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SOTO? YES. THANK YOU. UM, DIRECTOR CARRIAGE. SO, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY THE, THE WAY I HAD SOME COMMENTS ON THERE, YOU'LL SEE IN SOME, IN, IN THE RED. THAT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT ANY CHANGES SUBSTANTIVELY. I JUST TRY TO, I GAVE A, UM, UM, [00:35:01] SOME PERSPECTIVE ON MAYBE, UM, JUST A DIFFERENT WAY TO PRESENT THE SAME EXACT INFORMATION. IT'S NOT BETTER OR WORSE OR ANYTHING. IT, IT'S, FOR ME, IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT LOOK. UM, AND THAT, AND THAT'S ALL MY EDITS WERE. SO NOTHING SUBSTANTIVELY REALLY ALL THAT, ALL THAT, UH, IN DEPTH. SO THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE, JUST TO CLARIFY MY INPUT. ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR. SO I, BECAUSE I SPENT A LOT OF MY LIFE EDITING THINGS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COPY EDITING THINGS TO, TO SUBMIT, WHICH I WILL DO BY THE END OF THE MEETING. THAT'S PERFECT. YEAH. YOU, YOU HAVE MORE TIME THAN THAT. DON'T FEEL RUSHED, PLEASE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I CAUGHT ONE RIGHT AWAY. AND SO WE'RE GONNA, I, WE'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK. READ MORE CAREFULLY. YEAH, WE'LL BRING IT BACK. I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION, THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK AS A ITEM FOR APPROVAL ONCE WE GET IT ALL CLEANED UP. I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO MY COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO THANK, UH, DIRECTOR KERRY FOR, FOR, UM, LANGUAGE THAT SHE, THAT SHE SUGGESTS. I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL AND IT GETS TO THE HEART OF WHAT OUR PURPOSE IS HERE FOR. I, I AGREE. I THINK WE'RE OFF TO A REALLY GREAT START. I, I, THE FORMATTING LOOKS BETTER THIS WAY TO ME, SO WE CAN, IF WE CAN SEE IT AGAIN, ONCE YOU'VE KIND OF FINALIZED IT BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE, I THINK THEN EVERYONE GETS ANOTHER CHANCE TO MAKE ANY FINAL EDITS. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE CAN MOVE PAST THAT ONE. UM, SO REGARDING THE POTENTIAL AUDIT CATEGORIES, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE TOOK A LOT OF INPUT FROM WHAT WE HEARD THROUGH THE POLISH CHANGE, UM, STUDY, ALTHOUGH THAT FOCUSED MORE ON WHAT THEY WANTED THE OFFICE AND THE COMMISSION TO LOOK LIKE. I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER THAT LED TO THE CREATION, UM, AND THE PIVOT FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN PLACE FOR OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO IN MY OVER 18 YEARS EXPERIENCE OF DOING OVERSIGHT, THESE ISSUES ARE TYPICALLY SOME OF THE ONES THAT COME UP ON THE SCREEN. THEY'RE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER. UM, THEY'RE BASICALLY BUCKETS. SO I JUST WANNA GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR CLARITY TO THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, LET'S SAY HOMELESSNESS THAT CAN HAVE MANY COMPONENTS AND MANY FACETS OF HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERFACES WITH THE HOMELESS, UH, OR THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY, IT COULD INCLUDE, UM, AND I THINK VICE CHAIR TISH BROUGHT THIS UP, NOTIFICATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO ENCAMPMENTS AND HOW ARE PEOPLE NOTIFIED? ARE THEY GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO MOVE THEIR ITEMS? UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW WHEN I WENT OUT ON A RIDE ALONG IS RESOURCES. ALTHOUGH OFFICERS MAY BE RECOMMENDING RESOURCES TO THOSE THAT ARE DEALING, UH, WITH THE SITUATION OF BEING UNHOUSED, IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASIEST FOR THEM TO ACCESS THESE RESOURCES. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT THESE PIECES TOGETHER. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT AN AUDIT, IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE, UH, WHEN HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS ARE VICTIMS OF CRIMES, ARE THERE CASES BEING LOOKED AT, RECEIVED, INVESTIGATED, THE SAME AS OTHERS WHO ARE NOT POTENTIALLY HOMELESS? SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS THAT JUST UNDER THE BUCKET OF HOMELESSNESS, UM, THERE COULD BE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE AUDITED AND ADDRESSED. UM, AS MENTIONED BY MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, YOU CANNOT HAVE, UH, HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT ALSO ADDING THE ELEMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE PROTOCOL TO THAT PARTICULAR AUDIT. SO THAT HAS ANOTHER MANY LAYERS OF RESPONDING, WHETHER IT BE TO A CRITICAL INCIDENT, WHETHER IT BE TO, UM, HOW ARE WE UTILIZING OUR RESOURCES WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE. UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE OFFICE, AND I WILL JUST TEASE THIS UP EARLY, IS THAT WHEN THERE IS A CRITICAL INCIDENT, UM, MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES SHOULD BE OFFERED TO EVERYONE WHO HAS SEEN THAT INCIDENT. UM, WHETHER IT BE INDIVIDUALS OUT IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY, FAMILY MEMBERS, WHOEVER TO OFFER RESOURCES, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS THAT ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE THEIR SERVICES FOR FREE OR AT A REDUCED RATE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING TO PEOPLE AS A RESOURCE TO THEM AS WELL. SO, UM, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES IS BASICALLY JUST THE CHRONOLOGY OF HOW THESE BUCKETS WERE RANKED BY COMMISSIONERS WHO GAVE THEIR FEEDBACK. OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION IS TO DO A ONE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WHEN IT COMES TO THE AUDITING PRIORITIES. UM, AND WE COULD ALWAYS ADD SOMETHING ELSE IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP, YOU KNOW, BUT WE THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE, BASICALLY, SINCE WE MEET QUARTERLY, APPROXIMATELY FOUR AUDITS IS WHAT [00:40:01] WE THINK WE CAN MANAGE OUTSIDE OF, UM, THE ONE THAT'S GONNA START WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROCESS. AND BASED ON THE RANKING SYSTEM FOR THOSE THAT GAVE INPUT, IT WAS HOMELESSNESS RELATED ISSUES, UM, MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE AND, UH, RESPONSE TIMES. SO IT WAS THOSE THREE WITH THE, UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS REVIEW. SO BASICALLY, I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO WAIT, CAN I DO THAT? SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK. BUT THOSE ARE THE TOP FOUR THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IN THE NEXT, UM, THIS NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. AND I'LL REPEAT, UM, HOMELESS RELATED ISSUES, UH, INTERFACING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE RESPONSE TIMES TO CRIMES. AND THEN, UM, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROTOCOL AND PROCESS. JUST A QUESTION. THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROTOCOL IS GOING TO GET KICKED OFF, IT SOUNDS LIKE, FROM YOUR DISCUSSION EARLIER, RIGHT? FAIRLY SOON. YES. SO, AND YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO FOUR AUDITS A YEAR. YOU THINK THAT'S WHAT, WITHOUT HAVING AN AUDITOR, THIS IS ME GUESSING AS A DIRECTOR. SO I'M GONNA SAY THAT WE CAN, UM, OUR AUDIT DEPARTMENT IS TWO PEOPLE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANYONE IN THOSE ROLES YET. UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET A CONSULTANT FOR THIS ONE. WE ARE REOPENING THE POSITION, UM, THIS WEEK, THIS WEEK COMING UP TO THEN START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN TO TRY AND FIND AN AUDITOR. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME HICCUPS, AND THIS IS JUST FULL TRANSPARENCY, THE PAY SCALE FOR THE POSITIONS IN THE OFFICE. I THINK WE'RE MEANT TO BE PLACEHOLDERS. THEY'RE NOT AT ALL COMPETITIVE WITH THE REAL WORLD. SO WE'VE HAD A HARD TIME ACTUALLY GETTING, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE QUALIFIED IN THE POSITIONS. UM, SO IT HASN'T BEEN A LACK OF TRYING, WE'VE OPENED THIS POSITION UP SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE OFFICE AND WE GO THROUGH MANY, MANY APPLICATIONS AND THEY'RE JUST NOT VIABLE CANDIDATES. UM, EITHER NOT AUDITORS OR THEY'RE LOSS PREVENTION PEOPLE. SO WE HAD TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE A FEW TIMES TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ATTRACTING THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE. SO IT'S BEEN, UH, A LONG TIME COMING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT PATCHED UP AND WE'RE TALKING TO, UM, THE BUDGET OFFICE REGARDING MOVING THE SCALE AND GETTING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THERE. SO WE CAN GET VIABLE CANDIDATES TOO. BUT WE'RE THINKING FOR IF THE AUDITORS COME ON AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE CAN DO 10, THEN WE'RE GONNA DO 10 IN THE INTERIM. WOULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THEN TO CONTINUE TO USE A CONSULTANT FOR MAYBE A SECOND AUDIT OR A THIRD AUDIT UNTIL YOU'RE FULLY STAFFED? I WILL TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT BUDGET. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A BOTTOM LINE BUDGET, SO WHATEVER MONEY IS NOT USED EITHER THROUGH COST SAVINGS OR WHATEVER ELSE GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THEY HAVE OUR CONSULTING FEES FAIRLY LOW. UM, WE ARE TALKING THROUGH THE, THE BUDGET PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR RAISING THOSE. BUT THE ANTICIPATION WOULD BE THAT YOU HAVE POSITIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF WORK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO. UM, THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN VERY COMPLIANT WITH GIVING US EXTRA MONEY TO AT LEAST GET THIS CONSULTANT ON. UM, SO MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE AMICABLE TO MAKING THAT HAPPEN IF NECESSARY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? I FORGOT I WAS PRESENTING. SO THAT WAS THAT PART. LET ME SEE THE NEXT, SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WAS WERE BASICALLY, UM, WHAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD DECIDED WAS THEIR LEVEL OF, UH, INTERESTS. SO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, I'LL JUST MENTION THEM, UM, BEYOND RESPONSE TIME IS DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT AND ATTENTION OR RETENTION. UM, PURSUIT DRIVING, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS, BIAS POLICING AND PRETEXT STOPS. IMPLEMENTATION OF SELECTED POLICIES REGARDING THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, MILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT, USE OF FORCE USE AND GAIN CONTACTS AND ARRESTS, UM, AND ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER INPUTS THAT WILL COME ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT THE AUDITING PRIORITIES WOULD ALSO INCLUDE COMMUNITY INPUT. UH, WE WOULD ALSO BRIEF CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER SOTO, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN, DIRECTOR COURAGE. UH, JUST FOR [00:45:01] CLARIFICATION, JUST 'CAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT ACTUALLY IN A WHILE SINCE, SINCE IT WAS ON THE BALLOT, BUT CREATING YOUR OFFICE, UM, IS YOUR, YOUR, SO YOUR BUDGET IS JUST COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THERE'S NO PERCENTAGE TIED TO LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, LIKE A 1% OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET GOES TO YOUR OFFICE, NOTHING LIKE THAT? THAT IS CORRECT. NO. AND, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS PLACEHOLDERS BY WELL-INTENDED PEOPLE. UM, SO NUMBERS WERE PUT IN AND, AND I DIDN'T FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WERE NOT EVEN COMPARABLE TO WHAT'S REALLY OUT THERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT ADJUSTED NOW. OKAY. AND THEN JUST IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION ON, ONCE THE AUDIT'S COMPLETED, HOW DO WE, HOW IS THAT INFORMATION GOING TO BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC? AT WHAT POINT DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? SO I ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE THE AUDITS WILL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ATTACHED. ALMOST ALWAYS THE COMMISSION HAS TO REVIEW, RECEIVE, AND APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE. UM, THERE WILL BE LEAD UP JUST TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING AUDITED AT THE TIME. SO THAT WILL BE PUT ON OUR, UH, WEBPAGE TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT AUDITS ARE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IN THE SENSE OF GO FORTH AND REVIEW THESE THINGS. AND WE WILL SOLICIT INPUT AS WELL. LIKE, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING INTO POLICE RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH CALLS. CAN YOU SHARE ANY EXAMPLES THAT YOU HAVE OR ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE SEEN OR HEARD OF? SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR AUDIT PLAN. UM, WE HAVE TO FLUSH THROUGH THE BEST WAY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR OUTREACH, UM, PLAN THAT'S GONNA COME FORWARD THIS YEAR WHERE I PLAN ON GOING OUT AND SPEAKING TO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY, DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GROUPS, DIFFERENT, UM, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. I'LL ALSO TAP THEM LIKE, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING SURROUNDING MENTAL HEALTH? IF WE KNOW ON THE FRONT END THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH CERTAIN ISSUES, THEN IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR ME TO TAP THEM EARLY AND ASK FOR THEIR INPUT BEFORE WE EVEN START THE AUDIT. THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, IS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM NOW. HI. UM, PARDON MY IGNORANCE ON THIS FIRST QUESTION. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. UM, ARE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT YOU GUYS CAN POTENTIALLY RESEARCH OR AUDIT, UM, LIKE HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDS ARE GOING TOWARD EACH THING? AND, UM, IF NOT, IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED? UM, AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, ARE ANY OF THESE ITEMS, UM, BEING LOOKED AT AS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE POLICE IS NOT THE RIGHT BODY TO BE HANDLING THIS? FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S NO CRIME INVOLVED, SHOULD THE POLICE IN THE FIRST PLACE BE DEALING WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS? OR IS THERE ANOTHER AGENCY OR BODY THAT SHOULD BE, UM, DEALING WITH THAT? AND MAYBE THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE POLICE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE DEALING WITH THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M ALYSSA. I'M HERE, UM, WITH FRIENDS FROM BLACK LIVES MATTER BECAUSE WE LOVE BLACK PEOPLE AND WE KNOW THAT BLACK FOLKS ARE OVERPOLICED. UM, I'M HERE WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF BRENDAN BOYD, WHO LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT MURDERED ON THE STEPS OF HIS CHILDHOOD CHURCH AS HE WAS CALLING FOR HELP 'CAUSE OF A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS A FEW WEEKS, A FEW DAYS BEFORE THANKSGIVING. UM, THERE WAS A DAY WHEN I USED TO WORK WITH POLICE HERE IN, WELL IN THE OLD CITY HALL BUILDING AND USED TO WORK WITH POLICE ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED HERE. AND I'VE SINCE LEARNED HOW HARMFUL POLICE ARE TO MY PEOPLE, TO MY CHILDREN, TO MY FAMILY MEMBERS. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE AUDIT, I WAS JUST, THEY, THE SLIDES WENT QUICKLY AND I COULDN'T FIND IT ONLINE. SO I'M HOPING THE SLIDES CAN BE SHARED SOMEHOW PUBLICLY ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING FOR COMMUNITY. UM, THE POINT ON ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES, THESE ARE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS AND AUDITS POC WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I WANTED TO SHARE WITH COMMISSIONERS THAT I COME FROM BACKGROUND OF WORKING WITH COMMUNITY OF ALL DIFFERENT RACES AND BACKGROUNDS. UM, SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET. AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME LISTENING TO COMMUNITY ABOUT SOME OF THESE CONCERNS THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP EARLY ON, UH, IN THE LIST IN THE PRESENTATION. SO ONE IS DEFINITELY RACIAL PROFILING, UM, WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO AS BIASED POLICING AND PRETEXT. UM, EVEN BICYCLISTS, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH LONG BEACH IN THIS WAY, THROUGH THE SPECTRUM OF OF BEING A PERSON OF COLOR OR MARGINALIZED, EVEN BI BLACK BICY BICYCLISTS HAVE BEEN OVERPOLICED HERE IN LONG BEACH. THAT'S LIKE THE STOP AND FRISK KIND OF THING THAT'S HAPPENED. UH, I THINK 32% OF BIKE RELATED STOPS WERE BLACK FOLKS AND WE ONLY MAKE UP ABOUT 11 TO 13% OF THE POPULATION. SO JUST AN EXAMPLE OF LIKE, WHO WOULD'VE KNOWN I'D [00:50:01] GET PULLED OVER MORE LIKELY THAN MY MOM WHO HAPPENS TO BE WHITE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT JUST, UM, AND THEN THE USE OF FORCE PIECE, THE USE OF MILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT COMMUNITY REALLY WANTS TO SEE THAT PRIORITIZED AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. YOU KNOW, BRANDON, UM, WAS SURPRISED WITH A FLASH GRENADE BOMB. UM, AND THEN HE RESPONDED TO THAT, WHO WOULDN'T? THAT'S A MILITARY GRADE, UH, WEAPON. I HAVE A FRIEND FROM THE MILITARY WHO SHARED HIS TIME IN IRAQ AND IN AFGHANISTAN AND TOLD ME THE POLICIES AND THE PROCEDURES OF HOW AND WHEN THEY WOULD DEPLOY THESE WEAPONS TOTALLY OUTTA LINE WHAT LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT DID. SO I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL HOLD, UM, THESE POLICE ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT CLEAR FROM THE MISSION HOW YOU'LL DO THAT, UM, AND WHAT THAT ROLE IS FOR YOU ALL AND RESPONSIBILITY. HOWEVER, DO KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE TO COME TO YOU ABOUT THESE ISSUES THAT WERE NOT ON THAT SLIDE, AND PLEASE PRIORITIZE THEM. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS RACHEL DEJO AND I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE AUDIT. UM, AND THE, UM, IDEAS I WANNA MENTION IS ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR MENTAL HEALTH BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, HOW MAYBE CALLS OR NEEDS FOR HELP ARE COMMUNICATED THERE AND MAYBE COMMUNICATED OR NOT COMMUNICATED THROUGH POLICE OR HOW THAT'S HANDLED OR, UM, EXCUSE ME, UH, LOCATIONS CLOSELY LOCATED TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES LIKE REDGATE OR TARZANA TREATMENT AND HOW THAT'S COMMUNICATED WITH POLICE AND HOW THOSE SITUATIONS ARE HANDLED. UM, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY, UM, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THAT'S BEING HANDLED AS WELL. FOR INSTANCE, WITH PROP ONE AND COMMUNITY HOSPITAL, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN WAS MENTIONING, OH, ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AND TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, BUT HOW'S THAT COMMUNICATION GOING OUT? HOW ARE WE BE, HOW ARE WE, UM, BEING ENGAGED AND COMMUNICATED WITH AS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND ENGAGED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HOW WE ARE BEING PROTECTED? UM, LEMME SEE WHAT ELSE? I JUST THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND YEAH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AND BEING, UM, INCLUDED IN THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. UM, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY. I JUST, I AM BRANDON'S SISTER. I TOO, UNFORTUNATELY BECAME A VICTIM THAT NIGHT BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT IS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT BRANDON WASN'T THE ONLY VICTIM. I WATCHED WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BROTHER. HE WAS 70 FEET IN FRONT OF ME WITH MY OWN TWO EYES. THE PART THAT YOU ALL, I HOPE NEVER WILL SEE, I WILL NEVER GET OUT OF MY MIND. I HAVE HEARD NOT ONE WORD FROM ANYONE FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH REGARDING HOW MY FAMILY IS HANDLING WHAT WE EXPERIENCED, LET ALONE HANDLING MY BROTHER'S CASE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WITH OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC WITH WHOM YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE TO TRUST. LIKE YOU SAID, IS HE AT WORK? IS HE GETTING PAID AFTER KILLING MY BROTHER? WILL HE PULL ME OVER IF MY TAGS ARE EXPIRED? THE SAME OFFICER, NO ONE, NO ONE ACKNOWLEDGES. IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT IF WE CREATED THIS COMMISSION, THIS, THAT WE REALLY UTILIZE IT IN THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I'M A VICTIM AND I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING RIGHT NOW, BUT I COULDN'T HOLD THAT IN. I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IT. ALL THIS ITEM AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED STRAIGHT FROM NO HORSE'S MOUTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. UM, LIKE MY SISTER JUST STATED, THERE'S A LOT THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THIS ITEM AS FAR AS PRIORITY AREAS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LIST CAME FROM, UM, BUT I THINK TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT WE WANT PRIORITIZED BY OUR COMMISSION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO OVERSEE OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE IMPORTANT. SO I'M GONNA RESERVE MOST OF WHAT I CAME HERE TO SAY INTO THE BUCKET THAT IT BELONGS IN, IN THE THREE MINUTE PORTION FOR OPEN COMMENT AT THE END OF THIS. BUT IN REGARDS TO THIS SECTION, MOST DEFINITELY PRIORITIZING MENTAL HEALTH. I SAW THAT YOU ALL HAD THAT ON THERE AND I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE FACING THE REALITY THAT OUR SOCIETY IS DETERIORATING. UM, AND MENTAL HEALTH IS A PROMINENT ISSUE. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, BUT PART OF, EVEN IF THE [00:55:01] POLICE HADN'T KILLED MY BROTHER, I COULD SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT IS THE BUDGET FOR OUR POLICE COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE PRIORITIZE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND NOT, DIDN'T HEAR NOTHING ABOUT PRIORITIES OF CRACKING THAT BUDGET OPEN AND HAVING A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES HERE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. SO I GREW UP ON THE NORTH SIDE, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THAT INTERSECTION ON ATLANTIC AND DEL LAMO. IT'S A, UH, YMCA RIGHT THERE. IT'S A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB RIGHT THERE. AND IT'S A POLICE STATION RIGHT THERE. WELL, A FEW YEARS BACK I REMEMBER WE INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVAMPING THAT POLICE STATION. AND THEN I REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO I HAD TO FILE A POLICE REPORT OVER A BADGE THAT I LOST OR SOMETHING FRIVOLOUS. AND I WENT TO THAT POLICE STATION AND YOU KNOW, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC AND I HAD TO GO TO SIGNAL HILL. DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DRIVE BY RIGHT NOW THAT YMCA, I'M 37 YEARS OLD, STILL HAS SOME OF THE SAME PLAY EQUIPMENT IN THE BACK THAT I GREW UP WITH. THAT POOL HAS NOT BEEN REVAMPED OR RENOVATED. COUPLE DOLLARS WAS THROWN AT THE UH, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB A LITTLE BIT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR FINANCIAL PRIORITIES IN THIS CITY. WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS MIGHTY DISRESPECTFUL WHEN WE WENT TO GO AND I AIN'T CALLING Y'ALL 'CAUSE IT WASN'T Y'ALL WE WAS TALKING TO. WE WENT AND SPOKE TO CITY COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO MY BROTHER AFTER THE, DIRECTLY AFTER THE SHOOTING, THE NEXT MEETING THAT THEY HAD. AND IN THAT SAME MEETING, THEY VOTED ON AN APPROVED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE GIVEN TO THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR MORE MILITARIZED WEAPONS. DISRESPECTFUL TO MY FAMILY, DISRESPECT. THEY COULD HAVE JUST, HEY, WE WAS GONNA VOTE ON THIS, BUT LET'S, NO THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'RE SO BEHOLDEN TO IN THIS CITY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DISGUSTING. WHY IS THAT NOT PRIORITIZED? WE'RE GIVING TOO MUCH MONEY TO THE WRONG PEOPLE, BUT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, THE YMCAS, THE PARKS AND RECREATIONS. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED SOME OF THAT STUFF? YOU ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO ASK FOR IT. SO WHILE I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY BROTHER AND THE TRAGEDY THAT MY FAMILY FACED, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REAL TRAGEDY. WE'RE PAYING PEOPLE TO KILL PEOPLE. WE'RE PAYING PEOPLE TO OVER POLICE OUR COMMUNITIES. YOU ALL ARE CLOSER TO BEING ONE OF US THAN EVEN THEY ARE IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE. LET'S BE HONEST FOR A SECOND. THEIR NAMES ARE AT LEAST GONNA BE RECOGNIZED WHEN THEY THROW THEM THROUGH. THE SCANNER IS YOURS. MY LAST NAME WASN'T. SO WITH THAT, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME FOR THIS PORTION, BUT I APPRECIATE THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU PUT PLACE IN PLACE. I BEHOOVE YOU BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THEM AND MAKE 'EM OFFICIAL TO ASK THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SOME PRIORITIES. AND MYSELF PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUDGET, OUR RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HOLD WITH THEM. LIKE MY SISTER JUST STATED, AFTER SUCH A TRAGEDY NOT TO TURN A COLD SHEET TO FAMILIES WHO ARE MOURNING AND GOING THROUGH THINGS. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN THE MONEY AND OUR RELATIONSHIP. SO I THANK YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME IN THIS AND I'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE MINUTES. I'LL LET Y'ALL DO YOUR THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NOW, UM, THREE MINUTES WILL BE GIVEN TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. UM, FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE, UH, COME FORWARD. IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Police Oversight Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM. NOW, ANY MEMBERS, MR. KAFE? UM, SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THE POINT THAT I MADE EARLIER. I KNOW IF THIS WAS THE PERFECT, UH, APPROPRIATE ITEM TO BUT IT'S NON AGENDA. UM, CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, THE OFFICE OF DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, WHICH IS THE OFFICE, UM, THAT IS ADMINISTERING THE DISPATCH, UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE WORKING OUT OF SYNC WITH ONE ANOTHER AND IT'S REALLY IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF, UH, VICTIMS OF HIT SHOOTINGS. AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE ONCE AGAIN, UH, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION, INSPECTOR GENERAL, TO REALLY LOOK INTO WHY IS THAT HAPPENING? WHY ARE THEY OUT OF SYNC? WHY ARE THEY NOT COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER? WHY IS THERE MULTIPLE [01:00:01] DAYS OF DELAY? UH, WHY ARE THE FUNDS THAT, UM, THE CITY HAS RESPECT TO THE VICTIMS OF HIT SHOOTINGS? WHY AREN'T THEY BEING UTILIZED TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ENTITIES LIKE TARZANA OR, YOU KNOW, ANY MENTAL HEALTH VENDORS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE CONTRACTS WITH AS A CITY? WHY AREN'T THEY BEING SENT HOURS AFTER PEOPLE LEAVE A CRITICAL INCIDENT, UH, LOCATION? WHY AREN'T THEY MEETING THESE PEOPLE AT THE HOSPITAL OR WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING? WHY AREN'T THERE FAMILIES? CASE IN POINT, THERE WAS A SHOOTING, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, ON LONG BEACH IN ARTESIA. AND, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR ONE, GOT THE RESPONSE OVER 24 HOURS AFTER THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. AND SO, UH, WHERE I WORK AT, AT THE FOUNDATION THAT I WORK AT, WHICH IS ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO RESPOND, THIS IS OUR SCOPE OF WORK WHERE THIS SHOOTING HAPPENED. UH, WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE TO TWO, THREE DAYS LATER FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY, IT'S TO RESPOND IN THE MOMENT AFTER IT'S BEEN CLEARED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ANY VICTIM. AND SO HOW CAN WE DO OUR JOB, WHICH WE'VE BEEN CONTRACTED TO DO WITH THE CITY IF MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY AREN'T WORKING WITH ONE ANOTHER? SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO GET SOME TYPE OF FOCUS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE FAMILY IN HERE AND, AND, UM, BESIDES THE FACT THAT THEY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WITNESSED, UH, UM, A KILLING A MURDER, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S AMPLE CITY FUNDS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS WITH, WITH THESE, WITH THE FAMILY AND THAT, THAT DIDN'T OCCUR. AND SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S AN OMISSION. IT'S A, IT'S A EGREGIOUS ONE. AND I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION MOVING INTO THIS NEW YEAR SHOULD REALLY SPEND SOME RESOURCES OR TIME, UH, PROVIDED YOU GET AN AUDITOR, I GUESS, UH, TO GET INTO THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. HI. UM, MY NAME IS MARYANNE. UM, AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE FAMILY AS WELL AS, UM, BEING, UM, DO YOU KNOW, AS, AS A CITIZEN BEING CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE GOING WITH, WITH, WITH POLICE OVERSIGHT, UM, AND IN, IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH BRANDON BOYD. YOU DO HAVE A VOICE AND AN ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND IN FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE THAN WE DO. AND, UM, AND SO I DO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE NINE ONE ONE CALLS CALL ITSELF THAT'S NOT BEEN RELEASED AND THE NAMES OF THE OFFICERS AND, AND THE VIDEO. UM, NOT A, I MEAN, WHAT WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC IS REALLY A HIGHLY PRODUCED CO LIKE, CULTIVATED VIDEO, UM, BY THE INSTITUTION THAT KILLED BRANDON. AND SO WHAT I, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE'S EVERY, ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAD CAMERAS, INCLUDING SOME EYES IN THE SKY AND THAT KIND OF THING. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF VIDEO THAT NEEDS TO BE RELEASED. AND WE'RE AFTER 45 DAYS, WHICH BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THERE ARE LAWS THAT SAY INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE RELEASED. UM, SO I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING THAT OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER WHERE WE ARE IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD. UM, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THERE'S, IN TERMS OF THE FAMILY DROPPING THE CHARGES AGAINST THE FAMILY, I CAN'T, UM, THERE'S, I DON'T HAVE WORDS FOR HOW AMAZED I AM THAT, UM, WITNESSING WHAT THEY WITNESSED AND UNARMED AND REACTING WITHIN WHAT ANYBODY WOULD BE. I AM, I'M APPALLED, UM, AND DEEPLY CONCERNED RIGHT ABOUT HOW THEY'RE CHARGES AGAINST THEM WHEN OH, MY GOSH. HOW MUCH, LIKE HOW MUCH MORE CAN YOU DO YOU MEAN TO HARM PEOPLE? UM, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. UM, SO I, I IMPLORE YOU TO PRESS ON THEM ABOUT DROPPING THE CHARGES AGAINST THE FAMILY. UM, AND THESE MILITARIZED WEAPONS, I MEAN, THEY NEED TO GO ENTIRELY THE WAY IN WHICH, AS SOMEBODY STATED BEFORE, AND I'VE HEARD THIS FROM MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE MILITARY, THE WAYS IN WHICH POLICE OFFICERS, NOT JUST THIS INSTITUTION HERE, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DEPLOY THEM, IS WAY OUTSIDE THE WAY IN WHICH THE MILITARY EMPLOYS [01:05:01] THEM OR DEPLOYS THEM OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE DEAL IS, RIGHT? UM, THEY DON'T BELONG HERE BEING USED AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. AGAIN, THERE'S SO MANY LAYERS TO UNPACK THAT AS I STAND HERE, I, I, I TRY TO REMEMBER WHICH THOUGHT THAT I, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOU ALL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY TO ADDRESS. BUT IF I CAN PUT IT IN A NUTSHELL, YOU ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR PROTECTORS. WHEN I THINK OF THE WORDS POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION, IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OVERSEEING, THE PEOPLE WITH WHOM WE TRUST TO PROTECT US. UNFORTUNATELY, BEING A VICTIM IN THIS SITUATION, I SAW SO MANY FLAWS AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND I WOULD JUST EMPLOY YOU ALL TO REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE HERE TO PROTECT US IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. PEOPLE ABUSE POWER. I RESPECT AUTHORITY. I KEEP STRUCTURE IN MY HOUSEHOLD, BUT I DON'T ABUSE MY BABIES BY ANY MEANS. NO MATTER HOW UPSET THEY GET ME, NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED I GET WITH THEM, NO MATTER HOW TIRED, COLD, OR IRRITATED I AM, I DON'T ABUSE MY POWER ALL MY BABIES. AND IF I DID, THERE'S DCFS TO COME AFTER ME, RIGHT? AREN'T YOU DCFS FOR THE POLICE WHO'S GONNA PROTECT US? THAT'S YOUR JOB. THESE OFFICERS HAVE DONE NOTHING TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY FAMILY SINCE MY BROTHER'S ABSENCE. I FEEL LIKE THEY GO AROUND AND THEY LOCK PEOPLE UP AND THEY JUDGE PEOPLE AND DEHUMANIZE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GANG MEMBERS, BUT THEY'RE THE BIGGEST GANG IN THE CITY. DO YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL? WHO'S PROTECTING ME FROM THE GANG THAT'S ATTACKING MY FAMILY. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. WHO'S PROTECTING ME AND HIS CHILDREN? SO DO I GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO MURDERED MY BROTHER AND ASK THEM, HEY SIR, HEY MA'AM, YOU HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING TO ME, BUT HEY, CAN, CAN I GET A COPY OF THE CORONER'S REPORT OF WHAT YOU DID TO MY BROTHER? HEY, DO I GET A COPY OR DO I GET TO HEAR OF ANY OF THE INVESTIGATION AND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE YOU STOOD THERE AND TOLD THE WORLD THAT MY STORY WAS A LIE. YOU GOT ON NATIONAL TELEVISION AND HAD THE POLICE CHIEF SPEW HIS OWN VIEW. I WAS THERE. WHO'S PROTECTING US? I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU PROTECT US. YOU ARE THE DCFS OF THE POLICE. AND IF I WAS ABUSING MY BABIES AS YOU SHOULD, YOU WOULD REMOVE ME. THESE PEOPLE ARE ABUSING US. THEY TORMENTED ME AND MY FAMILY. MY BROTHER WAS A VICTIM. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED. THANK YOU. PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR PLACES AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. HELLO AGAIN. UM, SO I HAD SOMETHING LIKE CONCEPT-WISE PREPARED IN MY MIND TO SAY, UM, AND THEN I SAW YOUR MISSION STATEMENT. THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION IS DEDICATED TO FOSTERING TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND TRUST BETWEEN THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY IT SERVES. THAT'S ALL MY FAMILY IS ASKING FOR. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S NOTHING MORE. IT'S NOTHING LESS. IT IS BEEN 45 DAYS AND ALL THAT. WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE MOST OF US, MYSELF AND NOT ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES WHO HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE GRUESOME HOLD TWO AND A HALF HOURS. 'CAUSE I WATCHED IT MYSELF FROM THE CHURCH'S PERSPECTIVE, FROM THEIR CAMERA. BUT MOST OF MY FAMILY, FROM THE RATE THEY'RE GOING WILL NEVER GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THOSE OTHER TWO AND A HALF HOURS TRANSPARENCY. WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO ASK FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT GIVING US. WE LET THEM HAVE THEIR MOMENT WITH THE 17 MINUTES. WE DIDN'T GO ON THE NEWS AND CRY AND REBUT. WE BEEN QUIET. WE GOT WHOLE REASON TO TURN THIS WHOLE LIKE WE'VE BEEN CHILLING. I SAT THERE THAT NIGHT WHILE MY BROTHER'S COLD BODY SAT ON THE STEPS NOT EVEN COVERED UP. AND I TOLD THAT MAN, MY GRANDMA TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING COMES OUT IN THE WASH. DON'T Y'ALL GO ON TV AND TELL PEOPLE, LET Y'ALL DO YOUR JOBS. I'M TRYING TO LET YOU DO YOUR JOB. BUT WHERE ARE MY SISTERS AND WHERE IS MY NIECE? BECAUSE TECHNICALLY RIGHT NOW, AS WE'RE SPEAKING, MY SISTER STILL GOTTA GO TO COURT NEXT WEEK AND MY NIECE DOES. THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL. [01:10:01] MY OTHER SISTER HAS PENDING CHARGES OVER HER HEAD. THAT HAPPENED TO BE FELONY LEVEL CHARGES. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF THINGS THAT COULD MESS UP FOR A PERSON RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS STILL ATTACKING MY FAMILY. WE JUST BURIED MY BROTHER. WE BARELY GOT A CHANCE TO BURY MY BROTHER. DO YOU SEE HOW LONG IT TOOK MY FAMILY? DO YOU THINK THE CITY ASKED US IF WE NEEDED HELP, POINTED US IN A DIRECTION OF ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL, ANYTHING THAT COULD HELP US? I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THAT MISSION STATEMENT, BUT I GOT A FEELING IT WAS YOU. S GOOD JOB. I WANNA HOLD Y'ALL TO THAT, YOUR OFFICE AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND THAT COMPONENT TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO US. BEHOLDEN TO THAT. I WANNA SOLIDIFY THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE TRUST, MY SISTER DIDN'T GO RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET THAT DAY BECAUSE SHE TRUSTED THE POLICE WHEN THEY SAID, DON'T WORRY, NOBODY'S TRYING TO HURT YOUR BROTHER. WE TRUSTED THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WHEN WE WENT AND SAT IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND LET HIM HAVE HIS MOMENT TO SAY HE TALKED TO THE FAMILY WHEN REALLY WE SHOULD HAVE TURNED OUR CHEEKS LIKE THE WAY THE CITY TURNED THEIR CHEEKS ON US. AND NOW WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TRUST YOU. THE WHOLE TWO AND A HALF HOURS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. THERE WERE SIX BODY CAMS IN THAT 17 MINUTE VIDEO. ALL SIX OF THEM FROM THE TIME THEY TURNED IT ON TO THE TIME THEY TURNED IT OFF IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS. AND MY BROTHER SAT THERE WITH HIS HANDS UP ON THE STAIRS WITH HIS HANDS UP AND THEY THREW A FLASH GRENADE AT HIM. ARMED OR NOT. HE SAID FROM JUMP IN THE 17 MINUTE VIDEO, HE DIDN'T WANNA HURT NOBODY. THAT WAS ABOUT HIM AND HIS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. HE WAS GOING THROUGH. THANK YOU OFFICER. YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED. EVEN OFFICER, RIGHT BEFORE THEY SHOT HIM. YES MA'AM. I WILL CONCLUDE WITH THIS. SAID YOU JUST SAID, BRANDON, YOU DIDN'T WANT US TO HURT YOU. THAT'S IN THE 17 MINUTE VIDEO RIGHT BEFORE THEY THREW THE FLASH BANG AT HIM. MY BROTHER CRIED TO THOSE PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HURT ME. HE CHANGED HIS MIND, BUT THEY HADN'T CHANGED THEIRS. THANK YOU. NEXT, NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. HANDS UP. DON'T SHOOT. LET ME SEE IT. DON'T HANDS UP. DON'T SHOOT. HANDS UP. DON'T SHOOT. HANDS UP. DON'T SHOOT. HANDS UP. DON'T SHOOT. I'VE WROTE STUFF DOWN. I'VE WRITTEN PRESS RELEASES. I'VE, WE'VE BEEN BRINGING FOOD TO THE FAMILY. THIS WAS RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING. WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO CARE 'CAUSE WE ARE SO, SO CONDITIONED AS A CITY, AS A COUNTRY. ANY STATISTIC WE BRING, IT'S REPEATED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. PEOPLE WANT TO AGREE WITH AND SIDE WITH POLICE. WE HAVE THE OLD, THE OLD COWBOY FILMS. I GREW UP WATCHING BONANZA AND, AND YOU, YOU SEE THESE CHARACTERS. THEY'RE CHARACTERS. YES, POLICE ARE PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS A SYSTEM OF POLICING THAT WE KNOW. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DATA AND YOU MAY NOT CARE ABOUT THE DATA. YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE STORIES AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE A HEART FOR IT TO RELATE. BUT WE HAVE FAMILIES, WE HAVE LOVED ONES. WE CAME FROM A MOTHER. HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT. THIS WAS THEIR BROTHER. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE READ OUR PRESS RELEASE IN OUR PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORDS AND THE STORY THAT WAS SENT OUT MINUTES AFTER BRANDON WAS KILLED, AND SOME OF US STARTED TO SHOW UP AND I FOUND THAT SISTER, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS, BUT I KNEW I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO BE THERE TO HOLD HER, TO BRING THEM BLANKETS AND WATER. YOU CAN HEAR IN THEIR VOICES. THE POLICE NEVER CALLED THEM TO TELL THEM WHERE WAS HIS BODY. WE WERE COMING AND ASKING. AND FAMILY WAS CALLING. JUST THE, THE THINGS THAT THE POLICE DO ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH THE CHARACTER WE BELIEVE THE CITY IS ABOUT. AND SO WE'RE HERE DEMANDING, ASKING, PLEADING THAT YOU ALL ASK HARD QUESTIONS. LISTEN TO OTHER VOICES. THE CITY HAD A HUMAN DIGNITY POLICY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL UPLIFT IT. IT USED TO BE LISTED PAINTED IN TOWN HALL. AND THAT WAS, UH, HOW I, THE WORK THAT I WAS DOING WITH THE CITY. IT SAID THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY SHOULD BE TREATED WITH COURTESY AND RESPECT AND DIGNITY REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE. HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGION, THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, THEIR GENDER. THEY UPHELD THOSE VALUES OUT LOUD IN PR. BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ACTION AND WE NEED YOU ALL TO CALL THESE FOLKS TO ACTION 'CAUSE IT'S SO EASY TO SIDE WITH POLICE. I WAS AT A CONFERENCE YESTERDAY IN SACRAMENTO AND THERE WERE FOLKS THERE FROM SAN DIEGO WHO WERE LOOKING AT SURVEILLANCE AND TECHNOLOGY. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AI TODAY AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A HUMAN ELEMENT, RIGHT? AND THEY WERE PUTTING OUT THESE, THESE SMART CAMERAS. THE POLICE WANTED THESE SMART CAMERAS AND ALL THIS MONEY TO MONITOR, HONESTLY TO MONITOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'VE HAD AN AI ANTI SURVEILLANCE COALITION HERE IN LONG BEACH BECAUSE, AND WE'D COME AND TALK TO CO TO, UH, WHATEVER THE COMMISSIONS ARE IN GROUPS HERE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. AND THEN CITY MANAGER TOM MOCA PUTS PRESSURE ON FOLKS LIKE YOU TO SAY, DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE ADVOCATES TO HIM. THAT'S A BAD WORD. DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE ALLIES. TO HIM, THAT'S A BAD WORD. DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE ORGANIZERS. SO I'M TELLING [01:15:01] YOU WHAT TO EXPECT. IT'S COMING IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT. AND I'M ASKING YOU TO FEEL WHAT THEY FEEL SO THAT YOU CAN RELATE IN THAT HUMAN WAY. AND LET US NOT BE AI IN THIS PANEL. HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED. SAY YOUR NAME BRANDON. BOY. SAY YOUR FACE. BRANDON BOY. YOUR FACE. BRANDON BOY. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, HUMAN BEINGS. UM, I'M HERE AND I CONCUR COMPLETELY AND SUPPORT THE FAMILY AND, UM, AND AM JUST INSULTED, ASSAULTED, UH, UH, OVER ALL THAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS CASE. I CAME OUT FROM LOS ANGELES TO TO BE HERE WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S EGREGIOUS. IT'S SO BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE. AND I REALLY HOPE AND EXPECT THAT YOU AS HUMAN BEINGS TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND ADVOCATE, UH, FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THIS CASE BECAUSE IT'S SO UNRIGHTEOUS. I HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY IN LOS ANGELES AND I MYSELF HAVE HAD TO CALL 9 1 1. AND THIS IS 15 YEARS AGO, UH, FOR A FAMILY MEMBER GOING THROUGH A MENTAL HEALTH CRI CRISIS. THIS PERSON CALLED, HE NEEDED HELP. HE NEEDED YOUR HELP. HE WAS OF NO THREAT TO ANYONE. IT'S OBVIOUS THE FACT THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED AND THE FACT THAT HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN, UH, ASSAULTED AND SUFFERED IN THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE. IT'S BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE HERE AND HOW WE'RE NOT DOING MORE. UM, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING 9 1 1 AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS. IT SHOULD NOT BE A MIRACLE THAT MY FAMILY GOING THROUGH A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS RECEIVED DECENCY AND THE CARE THAT THEY NEEDED IN THEIR HOME WITH US TODAY AND BRANDON BOY AND SO MANY THESE DAYS. NOW IT'S LIKE CALLING 9 1 1 IS, IS A GAMBLE. IT'S LIKE, AM I GONNA COME OUT OF THIS ALIVE? UH, SHOULD I JUST LEAVE MY MY MYSELF TO WHATEVER IS GOING TO HAPPEN FOR AS FAR AS MENTAL HEALTH AND TAKE THOSE CHANCES OR CALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TO HELP AND SUPPORT US, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED. AND OBVIOUSLY THE VERY WORST OF THE WORST OF THE WORST IS WHAT CAME. AND SO I'M JUST HERE TO IMPLORE YOU TO, TO THINK OF YOUR HUMANITY, TO THINK OF YOUR SIBLINGS, THINK OF YOUR PARENTS. MENTAL HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT THAT WE HAVE. AND IT SHOULD NOT BE A DEATH SENTENCE. HOW IT WAS THAT THESE DECISIONS WERE MADE, UM, THAT A, A FLASH GRENADE CAME OUT TO A PERSON WHO IS SITTING THERE WITH HIS HANDS UP. IT'S JUST, IT'S COMPLETELY UNBELIEVABLE. AND I REALLY JUST HOPE THAT YOU KNOW THAT TRAVELING OVER HERE FOR AN HOUR TO TO LOOK AT YOU, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REMEMBER YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS. YOU REMEMBER, WE ALL HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THESE ARE THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. AND YOU'VE MADE PROMISES AND WE REALLY DO EXPECT YOU TO UPHOLD THEM. AND SO ALONG WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE POLICE, I MEAN WITH THAT, THE FAMILY HAS SAID, UM, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT, YES, THE 9 1 1 CALL, THE COMPLETE NINE ONE ONE CALL THAT LED, UH, THE NINE ONE ONE CALL, THE RELEASE OF ALL FOUR NAMES OF THE OFFICERS, THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE, ALL OF THE THE TWO PLUS HOURS, UH, DROP ALL OF THE CHARGES AGAINST THE FAMILY AND ISSUE A PUBLIC APOLOGY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED. THIS IS A TREND THAT'S HAPPENING IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS. RYAN GAYNOR'S FAMILY, THEY MURDERED RYAN GAINOR AT HIS HOME IN, IN APPLE VALLEY AND THEN ASSAULTED THE FAMILY. WHY ARE WE LETTING THIS HAPPEN? WHY ARE YOU LETTING THIS HAPPEN? IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. UM, AND ALSO TO CHARGE THE OFFICERS WHO KILLED BRENDAN BOYD. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. I, UM, I, I JUST ONLY REALLY GONNA JUST NOW BECAUSE THEY EXPLAINED TO ME THAT WE ARE TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF US FOR OUR LOVED ONE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I'VE BEEN KIND OF JUST NOT WANTING TO SPEAK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S LISTENING WITH COMPASSION. UM, AND WHO CAN FIX AND HELP THE PROBLEM OR PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. UM, WHEN MY SISTER-IN-LAW CALLED ME AND TOLD ME SHE WAS AT THE SCENE, I WAS VERY COMFORTED. I FELL ASLEEP BECAUSE I KNEW SHE WAS THERE. I FELL ASLEEP BECAUSE I KNEW SHE WAS THERE. AND IF ANYBODY COULD TALK HIM DOWN OFF A LEDGER, WHATEVER WAS GOING ON, I KNEW THOSE GIRLS COULD. SO I WENT TO SLEEP THINKING THERE'S NO MORE YOU CAN DO. THEY GOT IT AND THEY FELT, THEY, THEY SOUNDED LIKE WE GOT IT. THE POLICE ARE TALKING TO HIM, IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD AND GET SOME REST. BECAUSE IT WAS A LONG DAY BECAUSE HE WAS JUST SAD. HE WAS HAVING A MOMENT. YOU KNOW, I EVEN HATE 'CAUSE BRANDON IS SO BRILLIANT AND SO INTELLIGENT AND WHAT'S LEADING HIS LEGACY IS THAT HE HAD MENTAL HEALTH. HE'S VERY SMART. HE WAS HAVING A MOMENT. AND NOW A MOMENT HAS BEEN FINALIZED. LIKE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WERE SAVED BY THE PEOPLE [01:20:01] WE TRUSTED TO HELP US AT THE TIME. ONE MOMENT TURNED INTO THE REST OF OUR LIVES. WE GOTTA BE WITHOUT HIM. ONE JUST FEELING, JUST EMOTION THAT WAS GOING TO PASS IT. IT IS THE FINAL EMOTION THAT HE GET TO HAVE BEING SAD, SITTING ON THE CHURCH STAIRS, OPENING HIS HEART TO THE LORD. LIKE I ASKED HIM TO HIS AFTERNOON ENDED AT THE CHURCH STAIRS AND HE WAS REALLY FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS FOR JAMES. OH, BE YOUR HEART TO THE LORD BROTHER. YOU GONNA BE ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE ENEMY WAS THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS BRANDON 'CAUSE I WAS PRAYING FOR HIM. SHE WAS PRAYING FOR HIM. WE ALL WAS PRAYING FOR HIM. WE WAS PUTTING GOD BEHIND HIM. WE ARE BELIEVERS. I LOVE JESUS CHRIST. I KNOW THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ABLE TO EVEN JUST SPEAK TO YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. AND I GOT 33 SECONDS AND I THINK I PROBABLY SAID THE MEAT OF IT ALL. WE WERE PRAYING FOR BRANDON AT THE MOMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BAD GUY IS, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE BRANDON, IF HE HAD HIS HANDS UP AND HE CAME TO ME AFTER HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED AND SAID, SHONDA, SEE EVEN WHEN I'M NOT EVEN BEING THE ANTAGONIZER, LOOK HOW PEOPLE ATTACK ME. THIS IS HIS SPOUSE AND I FORGIVE US FOR BEING UNORTHODOX AND SPEAKING OUT OF, I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND. THIS IS THE WOMAN WHO HE WOKE UP WITH EVERY DAY. MY BROTHER WOKE UP THAT MORNING, GAVE HER A KISS WHILE SHE STARTED HER JOB AND WALKED THE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL. NOW SHE HAS TO GO HOME TO THAT SAME HOME. SHE HASN'T BEEN IN HER BEDROOM SINCE THAT NIGHT. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND WHO YOU'RE HEARING FROM. OKAY? FORGIVE US FOR WE'RE NOT TRYING TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. HELLO. I WENT TO LONG BEACH PUBLIC SCHOOL AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, DID THEY TEACH ME WRONG? THEY TOLD ME WHEN I GROW UP AND I GET A JOB WORKING NINE TO FIVE, THAT I'LL BE PAYING THE POLICE CALLED TAX DOLLARS, RIGHT, Y'ALL AND THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING FOR ME. AIN'T NO KILLERS WORKING FOR ME. SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT TYPE OF WAY. AND WHILE Y'ALL UP HERE, UM, VOTING ON MILITARY, I WANT TO REMIND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A COUNSELOR. AND THAT IT GOES TO LEVELS. YOU GOT SECURITY, YOU GOT POLICE, YOU GOT THE SHARP SHOOTERS, THEN YOU GOT THE BIG MILITARY PEOPLE AND YOU GOT THE BIG GUNS. WHEN DONALD TRUMP CALL HIM OUT AND EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL VOTING ON CAN BE TURNED AGAINST YOU GUYS. 'CAUSE Y'ALL LITTLE PEOPLE JUST LIKE US, Y'ALL HUMAN. I WANNA REMIND YOU, YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, THERE'S LEVELS TO THIS. SO WHILE Y'ALL VOTING ON THINGS, MAYBE Y'ALL COULD JUST SAY, HEY, LET'S CUT THE BUDGET TO SOME MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING AROUND. YOU KNOW, THEY GO SHOOT UP SCHOOLS, THEY SHOOT UP BARS, THEY SHOOT UP A LOT OF THINGS. HE WAS SITTING AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS. YOU KNOW WHAT HE ALWAYS SAID? WHEN YOU LOOK FOR GOD, GOD FINDS YOU. WHEN YOU LOOK FOR HIM, HE FINDS YOU. OBVIOUSLY HE WAS LOOKING FOR HIM AND THE DEVILS WAS OUT THERE LURKING. SO WHILE YOU GUYS ARE VOTING ON THESE THINGS, REMEMBER Y'ALL ARE LITTLE PEOPLE IN THE POND JUST LIKE US. THEY ARE LEVELS TO THIS. LEVELS, LEVELS. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL NAMES IS AND WHAT PANEL RIGHT HERE Y'ALL SITTING ON BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEBODY SITTING HIGHER THAN YOU GUYS. THERE'S SOMEBODY SITTING HIGHER THAN THEM AND IT GETS TO THE BIG GUNS. SO WHILE Y'ALL VOTING ON THESE THINGS, REMEMBER Y'ALL ARE LITTLE PEOPLE IN THE POND. AND YOUR FAMILY CAN BE THE SAME AS JUST AS OUR FAMILY. THERE'S A LOT OF DEVILS OUT THERE. STAY PRAYED UP. GOD BLESS EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S A SPIRITUAL WARFARE OUT THERE. AND EVIL WILL NOT KEEP WINNING. IT WON'T, IT WON'T. AND SEE THEY KNOCKING PEOPLE DOWN. THEY STARTING WITH THE MUSIC INDUSTRY NEXT. WHAT YOU THINK IS GONNA BE THE POLITIC, EVERYBODY WILL SHOW THEIR HAND. WHAT YOU DO IN THE DARK COMES TO LIGHT. AND WHILE Y'ALL VOTING ON THESE THINGS, MAYBE Y'ALL SHOULD JUST VOTE A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE THAT IS REAL. IT HAS NO COLOR, NO SHAPE, NO SIZE. IT COMES TO Y'ALL, IT COMES TO YOU FAMILY. AND IT COMES OUT THE BLUE. HAVE A NICE DAY. SHE WAS ALSO AT THE SEA, THANK YOU. AND HER ARM GOT FRACTURED THAT NIGHT. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WE'RE NOT LUNATICS TRYING TO BOMBARD. I WANT YOU TO PUT IN CONTEXT THE RAW EMOTION THAT YOU'RE FEELING AND SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. YOU SHOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN OR APOLOGIZE. YOU LOST YOUR LOVED ONE. YOU ARE EYE WITNESS TO A TRAGEDY. YOU OWE LOVELY PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE, YOU DON'T OWE THEM ANY OF THAT. SO MY NAME'S ARINA REDMOND. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH. UM, ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF THE BLACK LIVES MATTER CHAPTER HERE. UM, THAT NIGHT AS WE WERE [01:25:01] WATCHING THE SCENE, SOMEONE NEAR ME, I DON'T, I WISH I COULD KNOW WHO REMEMBER WHO IT WAS SAID TO ME, I HEARD ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS BEFORE THEY SHOT BRANDON, SAY THEY'RE SETTING HIM UP TO BE RITUALIZED. ONE OF THE WITNESSES ON THE SCENE SAID THAT. AND THAT TERM HAS STUCK IN MY HEAD. AND WHY DID IT STICK IN MY HEAD? BECAUSE THAT SIMPLE WORD RITUALIZED SORT OF SUMMED UP WHAT WE SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH POLICE INTERACTIONS IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND POLICE INTERACTIONS AND PEOPLE IN MENTAL DISTRESS. UNFORTUNATELY, POLICE INTERACTIONS WITH PEOPLE IN MENTAL DISTRESS WHO CALL UPON THEM FOR HELP, WHICH IS WHAT, TO DESIREE'S POINT, WE ARE ALL TAUGHT TO DO. SO WHAT DOES RITUALIZED BEHAVIOR MEAN? YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP, JUST A QUICK SEARCH TONIGHT, MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IS ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR IN ANIMALS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE BEHAVIOR IN DOGS. SO IF IT'S RITUALIZED BEHAVIOR, WHAT IS THIS DOING? IT'S THREATENING, IT'S SETTING UP A WARNING. IT'S COMMUNICATING THAT I MIGHT BE THE AGGRESSOR. IT'S SAYING THIS CAN VERY QUICKLY TURN INTO A HOSTILE SITUATION. IF YOU WATCHED THAT VIDEO, WHICH I'M SURE YOU HAVE, YOU SAW IN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICERS WERE SAYING, BRANDON, WE DON'T WANT TO HURT YOU. BRANDON WAS SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO BE HURT. I DON'T WANNA HURT ANYBODY. YOU SAW THAT. BUT VERY QUICKLY IN THAT 17 AND A HALF MINUTES, YOU COULD SEE THAT HE WAS BEING SET UP, HE WAS SET UP TO BE TAKEN DOWN. HE WASN'T A REAL THREAT TO ANYBODY. THE VIDEO FROM INSIDE THAT CHURCH SHOWS YOU THAT. IT SHOWS YOU THAT THIS WAS POLICE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO GET THEIR NEW TATTOO, TO GET THEIR NEW BADGE OF HONOR TO BECOME THE NEXT POLICE CHIEF OF LA OF LOS ANGELES OR THE NEXT POLICE CHIEF OF LA COUNTY. 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROGRESSION OUT OF LONG BEACH. BUT WHO PAID THE PRICE FOR THAT? BRANDON BOYD PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE WITH HIS LIFE. HIS SISTERS WHO WITNESSED THAT, HIS NIECE WHO WITNESSED THAT PAID THE PRICE. THEY CANNOT SLEEP WITHOUT SEEING THAT HIS RELATIVES WHO ARE YOUNG AND PREGNANT HAVE BEEN SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE STRESS OF THIS. JOSEPH MAY BE BORN. THANK YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED. MY POINT IS, RITUALIZATION HAPPENS. IT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. NO POLICIES. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. THANK YOU. WILL HELP TOWARD THAT TRANSITION. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. MY NAME IS LAIKA CASTILLO. AND, UM, YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO BRANDON BOYD THAT NIGHT. AND INSTEAD OF TALKING MORE ABOUT THE POLICIES AND THE THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED, I WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT IT, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE A HUMAN BEING. TO LOSE A LOVED ONE AFTER YOU'VE CALLED. HE'S CALLED FOR HELP. PUT YOURSELF IN THE SHOES OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, THE SISTERS AND HIS PARTNER WHO YOU HEARD FROM TODAY. AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, HIS FRIENDS AND RELATIVES WHO ARE OUT THERE BEGGING AND PLEADING WITH LONG BEACH PD TO LET THEM TALK TO BRANDON BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZED THAT HE WAS IN A CRISIS AND HE NEEDED HELP. AND THAT THE PEOPLE TO HELP HIM IN THAT MOMENT WERE NOT PEOPLE WITH GUNS, BUT PEOPLE WHO LOVED HIM. PEOPLE WHO'VE KNOWN HIM FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE, THE COMMUNITY HE GREW UP IN ON THE STEPS OF THE CHURCH THAT HE ATTENDED AS A CHILD IN THIS VERY CITY HERE IN LONG BEACH BY THE CARLITOS WHERE HE GREW UP. IMAGINE BEING HIS SISTER OR HIS BROTHER OR HIS COUSIN OR HIS FRIEND, OR JUST A NEIGHBOR STANDING ACROSS THE STREET WITHIN FEET, WITHIN ARM'S REACH OF HIM AND BEING TOLD THAT YOU CANNOT TOUCH HIM. YOU CANNOT TALK TO HIM BECAUSE YOU ARE AGITATING THE SUSPECT. IS THAT WHAT POLICE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO? FORCED FAMILY AWAY. WHEN SOMEBODY'S HAVING A CRISIS, IMAGINE THEM BEING A SISTER WHO IS, GOES AND TALKS TO THE POLICE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE POLICE SAID, BUT CAN WE TALK TO YOU FOR A MINUTE? YOU SAID YOU'RE THE SISTER, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GONNA HURT YOUR BROTHER. AND IMAGINE TRUSTING, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HURT MY BROTHER. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA HURT MY BROTHER, BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE LET US COMMUNICATE WITH HIM AND STILL BEING TOLD NO. BUT THEN A COUPLE MINUTES OF THAT, SEEING A FLASH GRENADE BEING THROWN AT YOUR BROTHER WHILE HIS HANDS ARE IN THE AIR, WHILE HE IS SAYING TO POLICE, I'M AFRAID THAT IF I STAND [01:30:01] UP, YOU'RE GOING TO KILL ME. PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME. YOU'RE GOING TO KILL ME. I AM AFRAID WHO THROWS A FLASH GRENADE AT SOMEBODY WHO IS BEGGING FOR THEIR LIFE AND SAYING, I AM AFRAID THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HURT ME. AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR FAMILY DOES THAT. AND THEN IMAGINE AFTER YOU SEE THAT FLASH GRENADE, RIGHT? A PICTURE. YOUR BROTHER, YOUR SISTER, LOVED ONE RELATIVE. YOU SEE GUNFIRE, YOU HEAR SHOTS AFTER YOU WERE TOLD THAT THE POLICE WERE NOT GONNA HURT YOUR LOVED ONE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY HANDCUFF YOU, THROW YOU TO THE GROUND, BREAK YOUR ARM. DID YOU SEE HER COME UP HERE WITH A BROKEN ARM? THE POLICE DID THAT ON NOVEMBER 19TH, LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT BROKE DESIREE BOYD'S ARM ON NOVEMBER 19TH AFTER THEY MURDERED HER BROTHER IN HER PRESENCE. IMAGINE. AND AFTER THAT, YOU THINK IT COULDN'T GET WORSE. THEY SET TWO OF HIS SISTERS AND HIS 18-YEAR-OLD NIECE IN THE BACK OF A POLICE CAR AND HAD THEM SIT THERE FOR THREE HOUR HOURS WHILE THEIR SLAIN LOVED ONE'S BODY WAS SITTING ON THE THE STEPS OF THE CHURCH. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS CONCLUDED. IMAGINE WITNESSING THAT. AND I'M GONNA FINISH, BUT I WANT YOU TO SEE THE HUMANITY IN THIS. THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. THANK YOU. THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE. THESE ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WHO WITNESSED THE PEOPLE THAT THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS PAY FOR EVERY DAY TO GO TO WORK. THANK YOU. MURDER THEIR BROTHER IN THEIR EYESIGHT. THANK YOU, TIARA SAID WITH HER OWN EYES. Y'ALL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. DROP THE CHARGES AGAINST THE FAMILY. THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GO TO COURT. NEXT THANK YOU WEEK. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO COURT. NEXT SPEAKER. PLEASE DROP THE CHARGES AGAINST THE FAMILY AND GET THE VIDEO FOOTAGE. GET THE POLICE. THANK YOU. NINE ONE ONE. CALL ALL OF IT. Y'ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. THANK YOU. PLEASE PROTECT THIS FAMILY. SAVE HIS NAME, RAISE BOY. SAY NAME. SAY HIS NAME, NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. I, UM, I CAME HERE BLINDLY AND I SAT HERE FOR THE LAST 45 MINUTES AND LISTENED TO THESE PEOPLE TALK. I'M BLACK MYSELF. AND HEARING THIS JUST KIND OF BREAKS ME. I I CAME HERE FOR A SCHOOL PROJECT. THIS IS FOR A SCHOOL PROJECT. THIS HAS TURNED INTO A LIFE CHANGING ALTERING MOMENT. HE STOOD IN FRONT OF JESUS' DOORS, THE LORD'S HOUSE ON HIS STEPS WITH HIS HANDS UP PLEADING FOR HELP. HE WANTED HELP. THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT I'VE ASKED FOR HELP, AND I'VE GOTTEN IT SIMPLY BECAUSE I LIVE IN REDONDO BEACH, IS ASTOUNDING TO HOW THE POLICE RESPOND HERE IN THE ROUGHER AREAS. I'VE GOT FAMILY THAT LIVES IN SOUTH CENTRAL. THEY SEE PEOPLE GET KILLED EVERY DAY. BUT THIS MAN, BRANDON BOYD ALTERED MY BRAIN JUST A LITTLE BIT. HIS SISTER HAS TO SIT HERE AND FIGHT FOR HER BROTHER AND FOR HER FAMILY TO GAIN EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF RECOGNITION. I DIDN'T SEE THIS ON THE NEWS. MY BEST FRIEND DIDN'T SEE THIS ON THE NEWS. NOBODY SAW THIS ON THE NEWS. MY GIRLFRIEND, WHO LIVES DOWN THE STREET HASN'T EVEN HEARD ABOUT BRANDON BOYD. AND I THINK THAT WHEN I GO HOME TODAY, I WILL POST ON MY STORY, ALL THE NOTES THAT I JUST TOOK SITTING IN THAT CHAIR RIGHT NOW. THAT LONG BEACH NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING. THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING. I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY APOLOGIES TO THIS FAMILY. AND, UM, GET A WORD OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. HI. UM, TRULY NONE OF US SHOULDN'T BE HERE RIGHT NOW. THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T RIGHT. THIS ISN'T ALL MY FAMILY'S ASKING IS FOR TRANSPARENCY AND TO, FOR YOU GUYS TO RELEASE FOOTAGE, UM, TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PLAN FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING AND THE ANNUAL AND THE QUARTERLY REPORT STARTS, BUT CAN WE BACKTRACK AND MAKE UP FOR THE TIME THAT WE LOST DURING THAT TIME SO WE CAN ACCELERATE THAT ANNUAL REPORT ON BRANDON'S NAME? THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND I JUST, I'M SO SAD FOR, FOR MY FAMILY. LIKE, WE SHOULD NOT BE HERE RIGHT NOW. LIKE, HOW ARE WE HERE? WHEN, HOW DOES SOMEONE ASK FOR HELP? HOW DOES SOMEONE CALL FOR HELP? ESPECIALLY LIKE [01:35:01] SHE SAID JESUS TOUR. LIKE HOW DO YOU ASK FOR HELP? YOU GUYS SAY, TRUST US TO LET US DO OUR JOBS, LET US DO THIS. BUT LIKE, HOW DO YOU CALL AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT HE CALLED AND HE SAID, I KNOW I'M STRUGGLING WITH MY MENTAL HEALTH. I HAVE CHILDREN, I HAVE FAMILY THAT DEPENDS ON ME. I HAVE EVERYONE BEHIND ME THAT'S WAITING FOR ME TO COME HOME, FOR ME TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO WALK THEM TO SCHOOL AND KISSED THEM ON THE FOREHEAD AND HUGGED THEM AND LOVE ON THEM. AND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED? HE CALLED BECAUSE HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ME. I NEED SOMEONE TO COME OUT AND HELP ME. I DON'T, I JUST, WHAT, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? AND WHAT HAPPENED? F*****G VILLAINOUS, HUMAN BEINGS DECIDED NOT TO LET FAMILY COME AND HELP HIM TO REACH OUT TO HIM, TO TALK TO HIM. AND ONCE THEY FOUND OUT WHO HE WAS, WHAT HAPPENED? THEY TOOK HIM FROM US. WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? HAVE YOU GUYS REACHED OUT? HAS ANYONE REACHED OUT TO, TO ASK WHAT DO WE NEED TO GIVE US HELP? NOTHING. BUT YOU GUYS SPUN A STORY. WELL, THEY SPUN A STORY IN THE NEWS AND MADE US CONTINUE TO SUFFER. WE JUST LAID HIM DOWN TO REST. WHO WANTS TO DO THAT? HE HAD TO GO TO TWO CORNERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, WE SHOULD EVEN BE HERE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS JUST VILLAINOUS AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS IMPLEMENTING EVERYTHING. I DID NOT EXPECT TO COME UP HERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I AM IN SO MUCH TORMENT AND I LOVE EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS FOR COMING UP HERE AND BEING STRONG ENOUGH TO BE HERE. AND LALA YOU ARE FIGHTING. I, I JUST, I'M SO THANK YOU. SORRY. I LOVE YOU TOO. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR TRANSPARENCY AND A LITTLE BIT OF HUMAN KINDNESS. THAT'S ALL. . THANK YOU. UM, TY, I CAN IN HONOR OF, LEMME HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES. CAN YOU SAY, AYE PLEASE. NO, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT. I'M SORRY. I GOT, UM, I'M SORRY. WE CAN'T, I DON'T, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK. LET HER SPEAK. THE OTHER PERSON CAN SPEAK. DON'T WANNA EXPECT Y'ALL SPACE, BUT I WON'T HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE, THAT'S NOT THE PROTOCOL. SHE COULD COME UP AND THE OTHER PERSON COULD COME UP AND SPEAK. CALL THE POLICE TO KILL PEOPLE, CALL FOR HELP. GIVE HER THREE MINUTES. DON'T WANNA DISRESPECT. IT'S OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. YOU GOT ACCESS TO WHAT WE KNOW. THIS IS MY COUSIN TY. WE GONNA SPEAK TOGETHER BECAUSE WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID, NEEDS TO BE SAID. I'M GONNA SAY THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD. IN THAT 17 MINUTE VIDEO THAT THEY RELEASED, YOU WATCHED MY BROTHER AS HE WAS FLIPPED IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. YOU HEARD THE PEOPLE SAY THE NICE THINGS THAT THEY SAID. YOU EVEN HEARD THE LITTLE WHITE LADY SAY, YOUR LIFE MATTERS. I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS TOUCHING THE TWO AND A HALF HOURS THAT HE CHANGED HIS MIND. THAT PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE, I WORK WITH FOSTER YOUTH AGES 13 TO 17, WHO ARE WORK IN SOME OF THE MOST MESSED UP SITUATIONS AND SHELTERS AT DCFS. AND ONE THING WE'VE LEARNED IN OUR CONFLICT, RES RESOLUTION AND DEESCALATION IS YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH TO SOMEBODY WHEN THEY'RE FLIPPED. WHEN MY BROTHER WAS FLIPPED, THEY WERE PATIENT, THEY WERE KIND. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT, LET'S SAY THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD. WHEN HE CHANGED HIS MIND AND I WATCHED TWO AND A HALF HOURS OF MY BROTHER RUNNING HIS MOUTH FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS STRAIGHT. MY MAMA DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT MY BROTHER WAS SAYING. FOR THOSE TWO AND A HALF HOURS, I WATCHED HIM DEESCALATE HIS SELF. I WATCHED HIM REMOVE HIMSELF FROM HIS WEAPON. I WATCHED HIM DECIDE, PRAY TO GOD IN THOSE HOURS FROM THE CHURCH VIDEO. WE NEED THE AUDIO TO THAT. AND I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND, WHILE HE WAS FLIPPED, WE RECOGNIZE WHAT WAS SAID AND WHAT WAS DONE. BUT PATIENCE KICKS IN AT THE TWO HOUR MARK AFTER THAT POINT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'RE NOT SAYING MY BROTHER WAS A PERFECT PERSON, THAT HE WALKED UP AND HE ASKED WITH THE MOST KINDEST VOICE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT SITUATION WAS DIFFICULT FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE, BUT THAT TWO AND A HALF HOURS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THOSE DETAILS ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE MY BROTHER CHANGED HIS MIND. AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE OUR MINDS AND THE POLICE SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE OUR LIVES AND NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THIS. TY, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU SIR. I UNDERSTAND YOU JUST DOING YOUR JOB. THANK YOU. BUT Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR THAT AND YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT. I JUST WANNA SAY LIKE I FLEW IN FROM WASHINGTON. I LIVE ACTUALLY ON, UH, MILITARY ISLAND. UM, THERE'S TWO BASES ON THIS SMALL ISLAND CALLED WOULD BE ISLAND. MY BROTHER'S ACTUALLY A POLICE OFFICER. AND WE'RE ALL JUST TOOKEN BACK BY THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE BEING AROUND MILITARY ALL DAY EVERY [01:40:01] DAY JUST WITH JUST HEARING ABOUT THE FLASH BOMB BEING THROWN. I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WASN'T PRI PROPER PROTOCOL. I MEAN, I JUST HAD TO EXPRESS THAT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU OFFICER. YOU GO. THANK YOU. SAY HIS NAME. BRANDON. BRANDON, BOY. SAY HIS, THIS WILL BE THE FINAL SPEAKER. SAY HIS NAME. BRANDON BOYD. I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ZANE AB. I'M HERE, UM, AS A CITIZEN OF LONG BEACH AND IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO THIS STORY BECAUSE IT'S EGREGIOUS, IT'S HORRIBLE, IT'S INHUMANE, IT'S EVIL. THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU FOR ARE NOT EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU DO. IT SEEMS A LITTLE STRANGE THAT WE HAVE TO EVEN COME HERE AND ASK FOR THIS TYPE OF SUPPORT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE DO NOT OVERSTEP THEIR BOUNDS, DO NOT ABUSE THEIR AUTHORITY, DO NOT RUN CRAZY WITH THEIR POWER. RIGHT? BUT THAT'S HAPPENING EVERY DAY, ALL THE TIME. EVERY NEWS CHANNEL, EVERY NEWS FLIP IS SOME OTHER BLACKS PERSON WHO'S BEEN HARASSED HER MAIMED, HURT, DISMEMBERED, WHATEVER. IT DOESN'T START OR STOP AT THIS STORY. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH POLICE BRUTALITY FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. 20 YEARS AGO I WAS AT PROTEST OF A POLICE BRUTALITY AND WE'RE STILL SINGING THE SAME SONG. WHETHER THERE'S AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OR NOT. IT'S TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO STEP UP AND ACTUALLY DO THE JOB THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM TO DO. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO JUST SIMPLY DO WHAT WE'VE ASKED YOU TO DO. TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS THAT WELL NOT TAKE CARE OF, BUT BUT HOLD THE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. WHO SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. ISN'T THAT WHAT THE OVERSIGHT COMMUNITY COMMITTEE DOES? AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO POLICE THE POLICE? WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU ARE ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. IT'S CRAZY. WE HAVE TO COME HERE AND ASK. BUT IF WE DON'T ASK, WE HAVE NO EVEN FATHOM OF HOPE THAT IT MIGHT HAPPEN. THE OTHER THING I WANNA SAY IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS TO GO OVERLOOKED OFTEN IS THAT THINGS WILL BE HA WILL HAPPEN IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AND NOBODY LIKES TO HEAR ABOUT THE RACE CARD. OH, IT'S AN OH, WE'RE BEYOND RACE. BUT THE REALITY IS THIS THINGS HAPPEN IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AT A SMALL LEVEL, WHAT SEEMS SMALL IN COMPARISON TO THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES. AND IT'S A TEST TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. JUST LIKE THE DOPE, THE CIA PUT THE, UM, CRACK COCAINE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. AND GUESS WHAT? NOW THERE'S OPIOIDS AND METHAMPHETAMINE AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY RAMPANT. IT STARTS SMALL IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A TEST. AND WHEN NOBODY DOES ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S OKAY, IT'S JUST HAPPENING TO BLACK PEOPLE, IT'S NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NOT IMPACTING ME, THEN IT'S OKAY, WE'LL JUST ACT LIKE IT'S, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND THEN YOU'LL WAKE UP AND IT'LL BE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'LL BE IN YOUR BACKYARD. IT'LL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THESE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE HANDS OF POLICE WHO ARE IRRESPONSIBLE WITH SIX SHOOTERS. AND NOW WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM MACHETES. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU CALL? THANK YOU. YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED. WE HAVE TO BE REASONABLE. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU GUYS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S UNREASONABLE. PLEASE DO YOUR JOB. RESPECT OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SAY HIS NAME, BRANDON BOY. SAY HIS NAME BRANDON. ANYONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN. OKAY, WE'RE CLOSE AT THIS TIME. PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR FOR THE OPO FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, IF ANY. UH, I COVERED THEM EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION. SO NO ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLKS. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND SHARING YOUR STORY WITH US. YOUR VERY SAD STORY. WE, WE HEAR YOU. UM, THE OFFICE OF OUR COMMISSION IS, IS A NEW COMMISSION. WE ARE, WE ARE GETTING UP AND ROLLING. WE ARE GOING TO BE AUDITING. WE ARE, WE BELIEVE IN OUR MISSION STATEMENTS. AS YOU HEARD EARLIER. MOST OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT PART OF IT. AND SO, UM, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. I KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE TRY AS BEST WE CAN TO BUILD THAT TRUST [ANNOUNCEMENTS] AND TRANSPARENCY WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND, AND I CAN'T MAKE YOU ANY PROMISES. I CAN'T MAKE YOU FEEL ANY BETTER. I KNOW THAT. BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT YOU WERE HEARD THIS EVENING. UH, WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME, UH, DURING THIS VERY DIFFICULT PERIOD OF TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND, AND SHARE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SHARED WITH US. I'VE TAKEN A A LOT OF NOTES [01:45:01] HERE AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TOO. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. AT THIS POINT, WE ARE DONE WITH OUR AGENDA. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION? WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.