* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE ROLL [00:00:02] ALL THE MEETING TO ORDER TO, AND JENNY, YOU WANNA DO THE UH, YEAH. UH, KIMBERLY LEWIS. PRESENT MS. DEFEN WOOD ABSENT. JULIE LEE. HERE WE HAVE LAURA. OKAY, GREAT. ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SO MOVED FOR, UH, THE 18TH. SO MOVED. OKAY. WHEN IT'S JUST TWO OF US. , DO I SAY SECOND? AND THEN, YEAH, LIKE WHAT DO WE DO WHEN IT'S JUST TWO ? LET'S JUST SAY THE SO MOVE PART. SO MOVE AND THAT'S IT. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. ? I THINK THAT'LL WORK. I SAY SECOND. I'M LIKE OKAY. YAY. AND THEN, OKAY. GREAT. ALRIGHT, SO NOW, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO FACILITATE FORMAL INTRODUCTION. WELL, WE WON'T DO THAT 'CAUSE HE'S NOT HERE. SO CAN WE JUST GET A MOTION TO, SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT? REMOVE THAT FROM THE MINUTES, LIKE FROM THE AGENDA? YEAH. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO REMOVE, REMOVE ITEM TWO FROM THE AGENDA? YES. I'LL MOVE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MAYOR'S FUND UPDATE. SO MOVE. SO THIS IS THE UPDATE AND THEN I CAN GO THROUGH THAT PIECE. THANK YOU. PERFECT. SO, UH, ENDING BALANCE AS OF NOVEMBER, IT'S THE ONE 141,428. TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER WAS 1,817 TO 13 CENTS. UM, AS OF NOW, WE DO HAVE THE FIVE OUTSTANDING MOUS. UH, PRECIOUS LAND PRESCHOOL DID SUBMIT INVOICES, BUT THEY STILL HAVE AN OUTSTANDING BALANCE OF 2009 98. THEY WERE AWARE THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT INVOICES TILL THE END OF THE MONTH. UM, AND PROBABLY HONESTLY MAYBE TWO, THREE WEEKS AFTER. SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM, UH, IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, MID-FEBRUARY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING BACKDATED TO THE TERM DATE, WHICH WOULD BE JANUARY 31ST, 2025. UM, URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES HAS BEEN INVOICING, BUT THEY ARE STILL UNDERNEATH THAT, UH, 2,500 ADVANCED PAID THRESHOLD. OKAY. UM, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER ONES WE'RE WORKING ON FINALIZING THE MOU FOR HIS LITTLE FEE AND DISABLED RESOURCE CENTER. BUT THAT SHOULD BE DONE HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. SO URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES, THEY JUST HAVE NOT SPENT DOWN THEIR EXACTLY. OKAY. THEY'RE CLOSE TO IT. I THINK THEY'RE AT LIKE $300 LEFT ON THAT ADVANCE. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'LL BE, UM, I THINK AT THE NEXT INVOICE THEY'LL PROBABLY NEED IT. OKAY. BUT THEY'VE BILLED EVERY MONTH. OKAY. AND WHAT WAS, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES? YEAH. UH, THEY'RE DOING EMERGENCY SHELTER, TRANSPORTATION, GROCERY SERVICES. AND I THINK IT'S LIKE EMERGENCY, LIKE CLIENT NEEDS. OH YEAH. SORRY, . I'M LIKE, I'M TRYING TO LIKE IS HE COMING? NO, NO, IT, EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I'M GONNA TURN OFF MY PHONE. I WAS JUST LIKE, IS IT HIM? IS IT ? SORRY. NO, NO, NO WORRIES. OKAY, SO I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE MAYORS FUND UPDATE. SO MOVED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NEXT IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS MAYORS FUND, STANDING OPERATOR PROCEDURES, VERBIAGE. UM, ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SWITCH OUT FOUR, FIVE SO THAT WE CAN GO OVER THE ORDINANCE FIRST, BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY IS GONNA SET THE TO FOR THE REST. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT? YES. UM, A MOTION TO, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER FIVE AND THEN DO FOUR OVER, UM, TO GO OVER ITEM FIVE MM-HMM . BEFORE ITEM FOUR. YEAH. ON THE AGENDA. YEAH, I MOVE. OKAY, THANKS. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO PUBLIC PRESENT AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. . YAY. AND LEAVE THAT PART OUT. OKAY. SO I ACTUALLY PRINTED IT OUT TO YOU. UM, IF YOU GO TO THIS SHEET, THIS ONE IS IN YOUR PACK. 'CAUSE I JUST MADE SOME NOTES ON TOP OF HAVING , UM, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT US TO GET THIS RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO, AGAIN, [00:05:01] IT'S A CONTRACT, IT'S LEGAL, SO WE'VE GOTTA STICK TO IT. SO, UM, WHAT I FOUND WAS THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OR THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED, BUT IT IS NOT HERE. RIGHT. IT'S NOT VERY DEFINED . NO, IT'S NOT. THESE TWO DOCUMENTS, IT IS NOT VERY DEFINED AT ALL. IT'S JUST VERY STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. BUT THE CAVEAT IS IT SAYS, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE IN WRITING. SO I DID ASK STAFF IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE IN WRITING, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, HOW MANY TIMES SOMEONE CAN APPLY THAT'S NOT IN WRITING. WHAT? UM, AS LONG AS IT'S HOMELESS SERVICES ORIENTED. SO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD BROUGHT OF THE ISSUE ABOUT MY LITTLE FEET, BLAH, BLAH. BUT AS LONG AS THAT'S GOING TO HOMELESS FAMILIES, HOMELESS CHILDREN, THEN IT STILL APPLIES. SO THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO START SO THAT WE CAN BE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR VERBIAGE, LIKE YOU AND I DISCUSSED AT OUR MEETING, WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER MM-HMM . AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING? I ALSO, AND THIS IS GONNA BE TO STAFF, I ALSO DID NOT SEE ANYTHING IN HERE UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE IN WRITING THAT SAYS THAT IT CAN'T BE USED FOR PERSONNEL EXPENSES OR OPERATIONAL PERTAINING TO HOMELESSNESS. NOW IF IT'S USING OPERATIONAL COSTS SO THAT THEY CAN BE TRAINED ON SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF HOMELESS SERVICES, THEN THAT'S FORBIDDEN. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT SAYS THAT THEY CANNOT APPLY FOR, UM, OPERATIONAL EXPENSES? NO. UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE IN WRITING WOULD BE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED. IT'S ON THE APPLICATION ITSELF. RIGHT. SO I THINK WE JUST, THAT'S WHERE WE STAYED OUT, YOU KNOW, NO OPERATIONAL COST. YEAH. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE, AND I DID PUT THE, I PRINTED OUT THE APPLICATION TOO. LET SEE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN LINE WITH THE, THE WEBSITES. I PRINTED OUT ALL OF THE WEBSITE STUFF THAT WE'LL GET TO. BUT DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DO. UM, I GUESS THE, THE, THE OVERRIDING INTENT OF THE MAYOR'S FUND, UM, IN THE EYES OF THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 19 90, 91 WHEN IT WAS AMENDED, IS TO PROVIDE AID AND ASSISTANCE TO HOMELESS PERSONS IN LONG BEACH. MM-HMM . AND, AND THAT'S A REAL GOOD INTENT. INTENT. BUT THERE, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, HOW THE MONEY IS APPROVED TO DO THAT. MM-HMM . AND, UM, WHAT KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, THERE IS OVER THE FUNDS. IT, IT'S VERY, UM, I MEAN THESE, THESE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE JUST VERY SPARSE. IT IT IS VERY SPARSE. IT'S ONLY THE, THE INTENT, RIGHT? SO, UM, TRADITIONALLY, I KNOW THAT HAY SAC WAS, WAS IMPLEMENTED UM, IN 1989, AND THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 1990. AND SO THE FIRST HAY SAC COMMITTEE, UM, WERE MADE UP OF PEOPLE WHO FORMED THE TASK FORCE TO CREATE THE MAYOR'S FUND. MM-HMM . UM, THEY WERE NOT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY WERE ACTUAL WAGE MEMBERS OF, UM, OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WERE INTERESTED IN HOMELESSNESS. SO, BUT THEY WERE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, UM, TO DO THAT, THE TASK TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THEY DO BESIDES CREATING A MISSION. AND THEN THEY SAID, OH, BUT WE NEED A SPECIAL FUND. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET CITY BUDGET WAS AT THE TIME IN 1990, BUT THEY, THEY JUST STARTED IT WITH 25,000 BUCKS. RIGHT. AND THE, AND THIS, THAT WAS IT. RIGHT? NO, BUT THAT THEY STARTED IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE HOMELESS SERVICES, UM, BUDGET WAS MM-HMM . WITH RESPECT TO EVERYTHING ELSE AT THE CITY AT THAT TIME. SO, UM, SO IT HAS EVOLVED, BUT UM, FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BEGINNING, UM, THE MAYOR'S FUND AND HAACK WERE JOINED, WE'RE JOINED TOGETHER MM-HMM . UM, AND IT'S JUST, I'M SO GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS, UM, OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT ACTUALLY, UM, YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT'S MY POINT. LIKE IT CAN E THIS IS THE THING, IT CAN EVOLVE, WHICH IT SHOULD. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED FROM 1990, [00:10:01] BUT IT HAS TO BE IN WRITING. AND IT EVEN SAYS THAT HERE, LIKE, THIS WAS CREATED HERE, BUT UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE IS IN WRITING MM-HMM . SO, AND THAT'S JUST IT. EVERYTHING, NO MATTER WHAT WE CHANGE OR WHAT WE DO, WE JUST HAVE TO PUT IT IN WRITING. IT'S JUST REAL SIMPLE. MM-HMM . AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS, UM, JUST AN UNDERSTOOD THING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND IT WAS NEVER IN WRITING. RIGHT. IT WAS INFORMAL. RIGHT. SO NOW I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYTHING FORMAL. SO THEN THERE'S NO ARGUMENTS, THERE'S NO MISCONSTRUED. IT'S JUST EVERYTHING IS JUST PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL WE SHOULDN'T DONE THIS. OH, WE ARE SENDING, NO, WE DON'T. NO. IT'S LIKE, NO, GOTTA GO HERE. AND THEN OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS VOTE OR DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO CHANGE THAT IF WE NEED TO GO FORWARD. BUT I JUST WANT TO START WITH A BASIS SO THAT WE CAN BASICALLY TAKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IMPLEMENT WHATEVER WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT SO THAT WE HAVE IT IN WRITING IN THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. YEAH. SO IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UM, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UM, THE OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITIES? I WOULD OF THE FUND, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, WE MOVED THEM, I WANT TO SAY FIVE YEARS AGO, COULD BE SIX YEARS AGO TO THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. AND THAT WAS, UM, DURING A VOTE OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE. YOU MOVED WHAT? THE FUNDS, THE FUNDS USED TO BE IN THE CITY TREASURY. RIGHT. AND THEY'RE MANAGING IT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO, UM, THAT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MINUTES AND THERE WAS A PROCEDURE TO DO THAT. AND I WANNA SAY THERE WAS, THERE WAS A CITY COUNCIL ACTION FOR THAT. THERE WAS THAT EMOJI. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. THAT, YEAH. SO THERE IS, AND I WANNA SAY THAT, THAT MOU HAS SOME STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. IT'S IN OUR, IN OUR PACKET THAT WE GIVE TO YOU GUYS. THE G DRIVE. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT YES. I MEAN, THERE IS A PROCEDURE SHOULD EDIT THAT OUT. SO I REMEMBER, UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT RECENTLY AT ALL, BUT I DO REMEMBER IT, IT DID HAVE THE ROLE OF THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION SPELLED OUT MM-HMM . AND IT HAD THE ROLE OF THE CITY AND IT MIGHT EVEN HAVE TOUCHED ON IT, DID NOT HAVE HAY. THE APPROVAL PROCESS. OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THEN I, I DUNNO. OKAY. IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE I READ IT. WELL, THANK YOU. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. AND SO THAT IS GOING TO YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT IS GOING TO FEED INTO THIS, DO THIS MM-HMM . SO NOW , I MEAN, WE CAN STILL DISCUSS, LIKE I DO STILL WANT TO LOOK OVER THE OTHER STUFF MM-HMM . BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUSH THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW THAT. BECAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT. IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF STUFF WAS ALREADY DONE, I, I WANT TO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO DO WHAT'S THERE. I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE ANYTHING NEW UNTIL WE SEE FIT TO VOTE TO ADD AMEN. CHANGE. RIGHT. AND THEN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL. YEAH. SO I NEED TO SEE THAT OUR LAST WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S OUR LATEST. OKAY. LOOK, JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I PRINTED EVERYTHING, YOU WERE SO GOOD. OH, DAMN. SO GOOD. OKAY. SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO UH, MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING? YES. I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO, ACTUALLY IS IT, IS IT JUST FOUR OR FIVE? IT'S GONNA BE, WELL, WE JUST FINISHED. WELL WE'RE, WE ARE REVIEWING NUMBER FIVE NOW 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ON. BUT I'M ASKING FOR THE MOTION TO, UH, MOVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY GO OVER THE, THE SOP UNTIL I GET THAT VERBIAGE. OH, OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO FINISH FIVE? YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, I MEAN, WE KIND OF DID. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SHORT AND WE KNOW WHAT IT SAYS. BUT NOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER DOCUMENT, I NEED TO SEE THAT DOCUMENT. SO, SO, UM, BUT THIS ONE I'M, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON I DO. SO THERE'S A, JULIE, YOU'VE ASKED FOR OVERSIGHT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY OVERSIGHT? UM, I, I MEAN LIKE ACCOUNTABILITY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I, I ASKED, YOU KNOW, I, I MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT WE, AND WE DID THIS BEFORE TOO, WE ASKED THE, THE AWARDEES FOR A REPORT ABOUT CU SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE $10,000 OR $5,000 GOT US. IT'S, IT'S JUST, UM, YEAH. ACCOUNTABILITY. DO YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS IN MIND? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR MOU, SO I JUST WANNA, [00:15:01] WHEN YOU'RE SAYING OVERSIGHT, WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE? SO THAT WAY WE REALLY, FOR THE OUTCOMES? YES. OKAY. I'M LOOKING FOR OUTCOMES AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE STICK TO THIS THING OF PROVIDING AID AND ASSISTANCE TO HOMELESS PERSONS IN LONG BEACH. 'CAUSE HONESTLY, I, I KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE WELL INTO THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE WELL INTENTIONED. BUT I'M NOT SURE ALL OF THAT PROGRAMMING GOES TO HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH. I MEAN, HOW DO, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY PROVIDE HIS NUMBERS? NO. 'CAUSE I KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE AT, I KNOW FAMILIES WHO ARE AT PRECIOUS LAND AND MAYBE WHEN THEY STARTED THERE THEY WERE HOMELESS, BUT THEN THEY ARE, THEY'RE NOT AFTER A WHILE. SO, SO I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE HMIS, BUT THEY AREN'T HOMELESS ANYMORE. SO THEY'VE BEEN HOUSED. 'CAUSE THAT ONE'S FOR SECURITY DEPOSITS. YEAH. WHICH YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY WOULD BE RECEIVING HOUSING WITH THAT. MM-HMM . YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE HAVE, I I, AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NEVER CHECKED TO SEE WHAT THEIR CLIENT LIST OF, I'M NOT PICKING ON FISHLESS LAMBS OR ANY OF THEM FOR ANY OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE APPROVE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN I KNOW DURING THE PANDEMIC IT WAS SORT OF A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE WE WERE PAYING FOR A LOT OF FOOD AND A LOT OF BASIC NEEDS AND THAT THOSE WEREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO HOMELESS PEOPLE. BUT IT WAS OKAY. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY SEEMED TO BE IN NEED. WELL, I MEAN, I THINK SO I KNOW WE'VE, YOU KNOW, CHRISTIAN OUTREACH AND ACTION ALL THESE LIKE LARGER SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDING FOOD AND MEALS AND YOU KNOW, LONG BEACH FOOD SERVICE, IT WAS A TRUCK. THEY, THEY WERE DOING OUTREACH AT THE PARK. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN DO I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE MARGINALIZED AND MAYBE ARE NOT EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT HOMELESSNESS IS ONE NIGHT IN A PLACE THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE. THAT'S NOT MEANT FOR HUMAN HABITATION. YEAH. NO, I DON'T WANNA ARGUE. BUT THE DETAIL, I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAY, OH UH, DISABLED RESOURCES CENTER SERVED 21 PEOPLE WITH THE $10,000 THEY GOT TWO MONTHS AGO OR WHENEVER THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE PERHAPS, UM, IN THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION OF REVAMPING THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY, UM, IF IT'S NOT IN THERE ALREADY, BUT IN THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS AND IN UM, AND ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, IS THERE A CERTAIN PACKET THAT THEY GET AFTER THEY'RE APPROVED? OKAY. SO THEN IN THAT PACKET, PERHAPS IF IT'S NOT ALREADY, 'CAUSE I'VE NOT SEEN IT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHARE IT. YEAH. JUST TELLING THEM, WHICH I'M SURE YOU ARE, BUT THIS IS JUST, I'M LISTENING TO JULIE AND I AGREE. I MEAN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE MM-HMM . IT IS BEING USED SO FOR WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. SO ARE THERE ANY DIRECTIONS LIKE THEY MUST HAVE AN HMIS NUMBER. THEY MUST HAVE THIS, THEY MUST HAVE THAT. AND THEN THEY SUPPLY THAT IN THEIR REPORT AT THE END. IS, IS THAT IN THE, SO IN THE PACK, NOT A, YOU MUST HAVE AN HMIS NUMBER, BUT IF YOU ARE ON THE HMIS SYSTEM, THEY DO PROVIDE A-H-M-I-S NUMBER. OKAY. UM, AND THAT'S PER YOUR INVOICE. SO I, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK WE PAID FOR LIKE SEVEN 11. SOMEONE BOUGHT LIKE HYGIENE ITEMS AT SEVEN 11. THEY TOLD ME THE CLIENT THAT IT WENT FOR, UM, WHICH WAS AN EMER EMERGENCY SHELTER. SO THAT'S WHY THEY WENT TO THE SEVEN 11. THEY SUBMIT THE INVOICE AND THEN I'M ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION SO I KNOW WHAT CLIENT IT'S GOING TO. SO THAT IS PROVIDED ON THEIR MONTHLY INVOICES OR WHATEVER INVOICES ARE PROVIDED TO US. UM, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE HARDER WITH LIKE HIS LITTLE FEET WHO'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT. SO IT'S FOR AN EVENT. UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH, WITH CHILDREN, THEY'RE ALSO USING A MORE, I DON'T WANNA SAY LAX, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USING THE SCHOOL DEFINITION OF HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT NOT, IT'S NOT UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS AS WE WOULD THINK OF IT. WE WOULD THINK OF IT, YOU KNOW, COUCH SURFING, ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS 'CAUSE THAT IS HOMELESSNESS. CORRECT. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY CORRECT. IT'S JUST IN A DIFFERENT THAT DOES NOT IDENTIFY IT AS THAT. BUT I DO. SORRY. EXACTLY. DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS YOU DON'T HAVE. AND THAT'S THE THING IN, IN THE UK I'VE DONE A LOT OF STUDYING ABROAD AND UK, SCOTLAND AND IRELAND, IF YOU DON'T, THEIR THEIR THING IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A KEY TO YOUR OWN DOMICILE AND YOU'RE HOMELESS. SO, WHICH MAKES SENSE. LIKE, SO IF I'M ON JULIE'S COUCH, THAT MEANS I DON'T HAVE A KEY TO MY OWN PLACE. 'CAUSE I WOULDN'T BE ON JULIE'S COUCH. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T DO THAT IN AMERICA BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE UM, AND I KNOW I'M GOING OFF ON A TANGENT, BUT I'LL JUST FINISH WITH SAYING, 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE [00:20:01] SACRIFICE THEIR OWN HOUSING 'CAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SECTION EIGHT. YOU CAN'T HAVE OTHER PEOPLE IN THERE IF YOU HAVE SECTION EIGHT. BUT THEY DO IT ANYWAY 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEM ON THE STREET. SO I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T COUNT THAT. BUT I DIGRESS. SO NO, AND I MEAN WE AGREE. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S SOME LENIENCY WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THAT. UM, BUT I WILL SAY WE DO HAVE LIKE A, A DOCUMENT THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE AGENCIES WHEN THEY GET AWARDED WITH THEIR MOU. THIS IS YOUR INVOICING TEMPLATE AND THIS IS HOW YOU USE IT. AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE THEM GUIDANCE ON THEIR ONE PAGE REPORT. AND THIS IS HOW YOU WOULD WRITE THE REPORT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE. SO YOU COULD SHARE THAT AND LOOK AT THAT FOR NEXT TIME PROBABLY AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THIS. MM-HMM . BECAUSE APPENDIX, WHAT I'M THINKING IS THIS SOP, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GONNA REVIEW IT IN RIGHT NOW, BUT MY GOAL IS NOT JUST FOR IT TO BE STANDING OPERATING PROCEDURES JUST FOR ACCEPTANCE OF A APPLICATION. JUST MORE PERIOD. LIKE HOW WE ARE GOVERNING THIS FUND. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT INTO AND YEAH. NO THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A VERY GOOD GOAL. OKAY, SO UM, YOU DID THE MOTION RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS TO DISCUSS AT NEXT MEETING ITEM NUMBER FOUR. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND LEMME WRITE THAT. SO I REMEMBER THIS IS HOW UM, A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THIS IS HOW THIS DOCUMENT STARTED BECAUSE JOLENE IS WHO CREATED THIS DOCUMENT. UM, THAT'S HOW THE MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE SORT OF TOOK OFF. 'CAUSE IN THE BEGINNING, UH, WHEN JIM WAS DOING THE MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE, IT WAS PRIMARILY TO DEAL WITH THE FUNDRAISING PART OF IT. IT WASN'T TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS, BUT THEN IT GOT PUT TOGETHER AND, AND YEAH, VERY TRUE. I SHARED THE INITIAL DOCUMENT WHERE IT WAS PROVIDING RATINGS. YEAH. AND THE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME DID NOT LIKE USING IT. IT WAS NOT HELPFUL FOR THEM. SO THEY DECIDED IT NOT TO USE IT. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN I THINK THERE HAS BEEN VARIATIONS OF HOW, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE OR THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS BEEN OPERATING. MM-HMM IT'S JUST WHOEVER'S IN THE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME THAT MAKES CHANGES. YEAH. WELL HOPEFULLY ONCE WE GET ALL OF THE PIECES TOGETHER MM-HMM WE WILL COME UP AND REVAMP THIS AND THEN GOING FORWARD WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING. AND AS TIME GOES, WHETHER I'M AROUND OR ANYBODY'S AROUND, THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO OPERATE WITH AND THEN USE IT TO AMEND CHANGE WHATEVER. SO THAT'S THE GOAL. NO, THAT'S BETTER . UM, SO UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMEND, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SORRY. SO FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE SOP WE, I DON'T THINK WE TOOK A VOTE. OH WE DIDN'T VOTE ON NUMBER FIVE. ARE WE JUST MOVING THAT WE'RE MOVED TO THAT? YEAH, WE WE MOVED THAT. OKAY. NO WAIT, WE REVIEWED THE ORDINANCE. WELL WE REVIEWED NUMBER FIVE. YEAH WE DID THAT. WE DID NUMBER FIVE. SO THEN WE JUST NEED A VOTE ON REVIEW AND DISCUSS. OKAY. SO RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE ORDINANCE C 68 71 RELATING TO THE MAYORS FUND FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AYE. SO . OKAY. AND THEN FOUR MOVING. OKAY. AWESOME. YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE MOVE TO THAT ONE THOUGH, I MEAN I GUESS WE CAN WAIT 'CAUSE I HAVE PRINTED OUT THESE THINGS. UM, IT WAS WAS JUST WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE AS YOUR APPLICATION. SHE DID IT SO WELL. AND SO, WOW. YOU KNOW WHAT, I GUESS WE CAN JUST TAKE THESE 'CAUSE ONCE WE GET THE OTHER, THE MOU THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEND MM-HMM . 'CAUSE AGAIN, I ONLY DID THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SAYING THE SAME THING. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCES. SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN WAIT AND REVIEW THIS NEXT TIME. AND ONCE I GET THAT OTHER ONE I'LL COMPARE AND YOU KNOW, AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE'LL JUST COME BACK AND LOOK. BUT THIS IS JUST WHAT'S ON ALL THE SITES THAT IT'S A LOT. SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN REVIEW. YEAH, . ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THIS IS GREAT. OKAY. AND THEN JULIE SAID THAT THERE'S UM, YOU SAID THERE'S A MORE RECENT ONE OF THESE. OH YEAH. NOW THIS ONE WENT UP TO, YEAH, THIS ONE WENT UP TO 22. SO YEAH, IT'S THIS ONE. IT'S THE ONE JUST ON THE WEBSITE'S. ON THE WEBSITE. OKAY. IT'S THAT ONE. MM-HMM . SO IT GOES TO 2024. OKAY. OR MAYBE IT GOES TO, MAYBE THIS IS JUST ONE [00:25:01] I FOUND IT WAS FILED. THIS IS, UM, 2024. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S IN REVERSE ORDER THOUGH ON THE WEBSITE. OKAY. AND IT SAYS, UM, WE MAY, I DUNNO IF IT'S, DID WE ONLY DO FIVE IN 2024? DO YOU GUYS KNOW? HOLD ON, GIMME ONE SECOND. LEMME GO TO THE ONE ON THE WEBSITE. IT WASN'T MANY. THAT'S THE MOST RECENT. JUST FIVE THAT IT WASN'T MANY AT ALL. MM-HMM . OH, AND OKAY, I'LL SAY THIS IN NUMBER SIX WHEN WE'RE READY. OH YEAH. AND THEN, RIGHT, WE WERE GONNA SAY THAT MM-HMM . YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT 10,000 LIMIT. YEAH. ANYWHERE. YEP. THAT LIMIT IS DEFINITELY NOT IN THERE. YOU BLANK BLANKETS, HIS LITTLE FEE. UH, THE LAST WOULD BE DISABLED RESOURCE CENTER. SO THEY WERE APPROVED IN DECEMBER. SO THIS IS OUTDATED, BUT, SO JUST DISABLED RESOURCE CENTER. CORRECT. HI. YEAH. OKAY. SO NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO I MOVE TO, UM, PUT ON THE, THE, THE MOU REVIEW AS WELL AS THE SOP MM-HMM . YES. AND ONE OTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS AT THAT TIME IS FUNDRAISING. I HAVE AN IDEA FOR FUNDRAISING. MM-HMM . TWO THINGS. THE MAYOR. THANK YOU. JULIE TOLD ME THAT, UM, HE DOES HIS LITTLE FUNDRAISING THING FOR HIS OTHER FUND FOR HIS BIRTHDAY. YEAH. SO I WANT TO GET HIM TO HELP US OUT THIS WAY. YEAH. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS I WANT TO UTILIZE, UM, A WELLKNOWN COMEDIAN THAT, UM, IS DOING FUNDRAISING THINGS AND HE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO DO THIS. SO HE IS HE HERE? YEAH. HE'S HERE IN LONG BEACH. HIS NAME IS ERNIE. WELL I THINK THE, YOU SAW MM-HMM . OH YEAH. I MET HIM THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN I WAS AT THE CASE MANAGEMENT MEETING IN SAN PEDRO. HE IS SUCH A BIG HEART. I LOVE HIM. SO HE'S LIKE, YEAH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOUR NON-PROFIT. I WAS LIKE, DEFINITELY. I LIKE, BUT UM, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. THE MAYOR FUNDS TOO. , WE, WE NEED, WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR THAT. YEAH. SO WE CAN, AND THEN, UM, I'LL GIVE ONE MORE AND THEN JULIE CHIME IN WHENEVER. BUT THE OTHER ONE IS MARKETING. I REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MARKET MORE THAN JUST THE, UM, UTILITY THING. I DON'T KNOW, UM, WHO OR HOW WE CAN BE A PART OF MAYBE THE NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SOCIAL MEDIA TEAM FOR THE CITY. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO DO THAT. UM, WE'VE DONE IT, UM, I THINK IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE YOU JOINED. WE'VE DONE IT WHERE WE PUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS, AND THE MAYOR TOO HAS A, HAS A WEEKLY NEWSLETTER. YEAH. WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A QR CODE. PERFECT. AND THEN, AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE AD TO PUT IN THEIR NEWSLETTER. UM, AND THEN I WANT TO ASK, IT WOULD BE AN ASK. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ALSO INCLUDE IT IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS. YEAH, NO, THEY HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. THEY'RE HAPPY TO DO IT. OKAY. AS LONG YOU GIVE THEM THE ARTWORK. YAY. OKAY THEN I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. WE USED TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU GUYS, STEPHANIE OR JENNIFER KNOW WE USED TO HAVE UM, A CHANGE THING AT THE AIRPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THERE. I HAVEN'T LOOKED LAST TIME. REALLY. AND THEN PEOPLE COULD JUST UHHUH PEOPLE COULD PUT IT IN A BOX. AND WE USED TO HAVE, WERE PEOPLE STILL IN IT? I DUNNO IF IT'S STILL THERE. AND THEN WE USED TO HAVE A COUPLE PARKING METERS IN DOWNTOWN. MM-HMM . THAT WERE JUST, ARE THEY STILL THERE? I DON'T KNOW. I'D HAVE TO REACH OUT. I KNOW THAT WHEN I INITIALLY TOOK THIS ROLE, THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT AND THEN IT WAS COVID TIME AND IT WAS JUST A MESS. BUT I WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND AIRPORT TO FIGURE OUT OKAY. THAT BOX IS STILL THERE TO SEE. I WOULD GUESS IT'S STILL THERE AND IF IT'S NOT, CAN WE PUT IT BACK? MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, OR WITH THE END WITH THE QR CODE FOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE CASH, THE QR CODE'S THE BEST. YEAH, THAT WOULD GREAT. AND THE PARKING METER. MM-HMM . THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. RECOMMEND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE A FILE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? SO MOVED. OKAY. I THINK THIS IS THE FASTEST MEETING I KNOW WE'VE EVER DONE. RIGHT? DON'T, I KNEW IT WAS GONNA TAKE A MINUTE FOR THIS STUFF, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO. 'CAUSE I WANT TO HAVE THAT [00:30:01] OTHER DOCUMENT. I WAS JUST REITERATING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YEAH. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, SO ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS, JULIE, DO YOU HAVE ANY? SO DO YOU HAVE ANY REGARDING, UM, YOUR SHOWERS, ANYTHING HAPPENING THERE COMING UP? UM, WE HAD THE HOMELESS COUNT LAST SATURDAY THERE. OH, AND THE CITY STAFF WHERE THEY WERE THERE FROM 8 45 TO 11 THAT LAST SATURDAY. NEXT. YEAH. FIVE. FIVE. BUT I WAS ONLY THERE ON THURSDAY. OH, THANK YOU KIM FOR COMING. IT WAS EARLY MORNING. THEY ALWAYS COME THE SATURDAY AFTER THE COUNT. OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY OPEN ON SATURDAY. SO. YEAH. UM, YEAH. SO IT WAS GOOD. OKAY, COOL. UM, AND IT'S GOOD. OKAY. AWESOME. BUT YEAH, NEXT MEETING HOPEFULLY UM, WE'LL GET STEVEN, HE PROBABLY FORGOT. YEAH. BUT YOU DID SEND A CALENDAR INVITE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 'CAUSE I DID GET, AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT, EVERYBODY DOESN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE AND DEPENDING ON THE EMAIL, SOMEBODY GOES, BUT SOMETIMES IT GOES IN SPAM. SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. YOU HAVE THIS. I GOTTA GET, I DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY'S NUMBERS , SO I'VE GOTTA GET THAT PICTURE. LIKE, ALL RIGHT. SO WAIT, YOU DID PUT YOU, YOU HAVE OUR CELL NUMBERS ON THE ROSTER, RIGHT? YEAH. I'LL, ON THE ROSTER. I GOTTA GET THE ROSTER. I'LL EMAIL YOU GUYS TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE UP TO DATE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALSO ON THE DRIVE, SO OKAY. WHEN YOU, THAT'S WHY WE ASK, PLEASE NOT TO SHARE THAT DRIVE BECAUSE THE PHONE NUMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE G DRIVE. OKAY. AND I GUESS I'LL BE VISITING THE DRIVE . WE TRY TO UPDATE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT LIKE, I WON'T LIE, SOMETIMES STUFF HAPPENS. WELL THERE WAS A POINT WHERE WE WERE GETTING MEMOS PRETTY FREQUENTLY. MM-HMM . UM, THAT IS SLOWED DOWN, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S NOT AS MUCH, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE UPDATED. 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MEMBERS THAT OKAY. NEW. SO AWESOME. AWESOME. I'M EXCITED BECAUSE WE'RE FINALLY ON THE ROAD TO GET THIS DONE. AND I'M EXCITED THINKING ABOUT POSSIBLE FUNDRAISING THAT'S GONNA BE PLANNED. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. IT'S GOOD TIMING. YEAH, IT REALLY IS. ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LAUGH. WELL ACTUALLY, OKAY. SO I DID, I DID DO THE DAY OF SERVICE LAST MONDAY AT, AT, UM, OUR MAYOR'S FRIEND RECIPIENT AT, UM, WRIGLEY COFFEE. AND IT WAS THE FULL SIZE HYGIENE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE OUT TOMORROW FOR LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY DO THAT MONTHLY COMMUNITY PANTRY. OH, THAT'S COOL. AND IT DID, WE DID GET A LOT, BUT IT WASN'T, I DID IT ONCE. JEFF WILLIAMS AND I DID IT ONCE FOUR YEARS AGO. MM-HMM . AND WE GOT LIKE TWICE AS MUCH FOUR YEARS AGO. BUT I THINK IT WAS 'CAUSE OF THE FIRES. THERE WAS A LOT OF DRIVE GOING ON THIS RESOURCES STILL, WE STILL FILLED UP THE, THE CONFERENCE ROOM, BUT THE CONSTANT CONFERENCE ROOM WAS A LOT SMALLER THAN THE ONE WE USED BEFORE. BUT YEAH. SO IT WAS STILL, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING GOING. WE, SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE ASK, WHEN WE DO AN EVENT MM-HMM . THAT IT'S NOT CONFLICTING. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S BEEN ASKING FOR MONEY FOR THE FIRE VICTIMS TOO. YEAH. MM-HMM . AND SO WE, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TIMING YEAH. I MEAN IT WOULDN'T BE FOR LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT SPRING, I'M THINKING SPRING. SO LIKE MAYBE MAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT. I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE THOSE POOR PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE THEIR HOMES BACK, BUT AT LEAST IT'LL GIVE A LITTLE TIME IN BETWEEN. AND WHO KNOWS, WE MIGHT DO ANOTHER ONE BACK TO BACK FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT RIGHT NOW MY, MY FOCUS IS THAT WE RESPOND TO GET FOR THAT. YEAH, I AGREE. YAY. ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS WE ARE AJOUR AURN. SO WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. DO I NEED TO GAVEL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.