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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE EQUITY HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER FOR FEBRUARY 5TH, 2025.
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE TIME? TIME IS 6:10 PM THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER MC MONTGOMERY? HERE.
HERE WE HAVE FOR, FOR THE RECORD.
COMMISSIONER LAURA ANDIA FLORES ARE EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING.
CHAIR COVINGTON IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY UNDER TRADITIONAL TELECONFERENCE GUIDELINES.
LASTLY, WE'LL BE WITHDRAWING ITEM NUMBER TWO FROM THE AGENDA.
AS BETTER WORLD GROUP HAS SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, THAT INCLUDE THEIR CAPACITY TO PRESENT THIS EVENING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SAME.
COMMISSIONER BUTLER WILL LEAD US WITH THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TONIGHT.
I ACKNOWLEDGE I AM SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY FROM THE TRADITIONAL ANCESTRAL AND UNSEATED TERRITORY OF THE GABRIELINO HOME OF PEOPLES, THE TRADITIONAL CARETAKERS OF THIS LAND WHO WERE DISPOSSESSED OF THEIR LAND, AND YET CONTINUE TO STEWARD THIS LAND TODAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO INVITE FOLKS IN TO PAUSE AND HONOR THEIR CULTURE, HISTORY, AND IDENTITY AND ANCESTORS AS WELL AS THE LIVING ELDERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND WHEREVER YOU ARE TODAY, I INVITE YOU TO PAUSE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE PEOPLE WHOSE LAND YOU ARE ON AND LET THEIR ENDURANCE AND STRENGTH INSPIRE YOU.
WE ALSO PAUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR COUNTRY WAS BUILT FROM THE PRE LABOR OF ENSLAVED AFRICAN AND CONTINUOUS TO FUNCTION FROM THE LABOR OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR EVERY DAY.
LET'S TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO PAUSE AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR PAST AND GIVE HONOR TO THOSE WHOSE LANDS AND SHOULDERS WE STAND ON TODAY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUTLER FOR LEADING US IN THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY FOR YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND SOCIAL JUSTICE IN OUR LONG BEACH COMMUNITY.
AS WE GATHER FOR THIS FEBRUARY MEETING, WE DO SO WITH A DEEP SENSE OF PURPOSE, KNOWING THAT THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE IS VITAL TO ENSURING FAIRNESS, RESPECT, AND DIGNITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
I DO WANNA START WITH AN APOLOGY.
THREE WEEKS AGO, WE VOTED TO HAVE THE FIRST LISTENING SESSION TODAY, BUT WE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE OFFICE OF EQUITY STAFF IS STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE ANSWERS.
AFTER TALKING TO THE EQUITY STAFF, THE STAFF DID NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT THE LISTENING SESSIONS TODAY.
SO I APOLOGIZE THAT A NOTIFICATION WAS NOT SENT OUT, UM, TO EVERYONE BECAUSE WE'RE PUSHING THE FIRST SESSION TO BEGIN IN MARCH, AND WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN MARCH AS WELL.
FEBRUARY IS AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH.
IT'S A TIME TO HONOR AFRICAN AMERICANS RICH HISTORY, ACHIEVEMENTS, AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR NATION FITTING IN EVERYDAY LIVES.
IT IS A TIME TO REFLECT ON THE ONGOING STRUGGLES FOR JUSTICE AND EQUITY.
AS WE RECOGNIZED THIS MONTH, LET US REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO DISMANTLING SYSTEMIC BARRIERS, ADDRESSING RACIAL DISPARITIES AND AMPLIFYING THE VOICES OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED.
THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE IS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THE PRINCIPLES THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY
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MONTH REPRESENTS.WHETHER WE ADVOCATE FOR EQUITABLE POLICIES, ADDRESS DISCRIMINATION, OR FOSTER MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE, WE MUST ENSURE THAT OUR EFFORTS LEAD TO REAL AND LASTING CHANGE.
SO TONIGHT, WE WILL DISCUSS IMPORTANT INITIATIVES, INCLUDING OUR FOCUS ON DEFACING ART IN THE COMMUNITY FROM OUR AD HOC.
THIS ISSUE, IT DOES THREATEN CREATIVE EXPRESSION AND CAN REFLECT DEEPER SOCIAL TENSIONS.
SO AS WE DELIVER RIGHT HERE TONIGHT, I ENCOURAGE US ALL TO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT HOW OUR ACTIONS CAN FOSTER INCLUS INCLUSIVITY, PRESERVE CULTURE IDENTITY, AND PROMOTE MUTUAL RESPECT.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR DEDICATION.
I LOOK FORWARD TO A THOUGHTFUL AND PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
SO LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER IN THE PURSUITS OF EQUITY AND JUSTICE.
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST ITEM, IT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR PUBLIC.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IN THE ZOOM, PLEASE FEATURE NOW.
AND IF THERE'S ANY NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAND IF YOU'D LIKE.
WILL WE DO HAVE IN PERSON? UM, THREE MINUTES START NOW.
I'LL JUST STAND HERE SO EVERYONE CAN, UH, SEE.
MY NAME IS VEDO, UH, COMMUNITY LAWYER FOR
UM, AS WE KNOW IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, SO THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, CAME TOGETHER, UH, TO VOTE ON AMENDMENTS TO LONG BEACH VALUE ACT, WHICH WERE PASSED, WHICH WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR.
UM, HOWEVER, AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WITHIN THE, UM, COUPLE OF WEEKS OF TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY, UM, HE HAS TARGETED, DETAINED AND DEPORTED, UM, MEMBERS OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AT AN ALARMING RATE.
UM, AND SO WE HERE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH NEEDS TO ACT AND ENSURE, UH, THAT WE'RE PROTECTING ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY TO THE FULL
UM, AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I URGE THE EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, UH, TO SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVISIT, UH, THE LONG BEACH VALUE TO ACT, UH, THIS JUNE.
UH, WHICH THEY MENTIONED THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO REVISIT, UM, AND SUPPORT, UM, ADDING BOTH A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION, ALLOWING OUR RESIDENTS TO LEGALLY CHALLENGE VIOLATIONS OF THEIR RIGHTS, AS WELL AS A COMPLETE, COMPLETE REMOVAL OF SB 54 EXCLUSIONS, UH, AND EXPANDING PROTECTIONS AGAINST IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
SEEING NO MORE KNOW AGENDA OF THE COMMON CALL, THE FIRST ITEM? YES.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15TH, 2025.
SO, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY.
WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE IN THE ZOOM, PLEASE USE THE RIGHT STAND NOW.
AND IF THERE'S ANY IN PERSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAND UP AS YOU SAME NONE FOR ITEM ONE.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM ONE.
COMMISSIONER, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL FOR VOTE? COMMISSIONER BUTLER? YES.
UH, COMMISSIONER UH, FLORES, I MUST UP SAYING AND YOU DIDN'T REVIEW.
I, YOU CAN REVIEW MINUTES AND THEN, UM, APPROVE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO HAS BEEN REMOVED.
SO IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THAT WE HAVE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AN INAPPROPRIATE APPROVAL LETTER FROM THE BIPO PRESERVATION AD HOC COMMITTEE TO CITY COUNCIL OUTLINING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONSERVATION OF LONG BEACH ART AND LANDMARKS.
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MOTION FOR THIS? I, I SECOND.CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND CHAIR.
VICE CHAIR COVINGTON, OR CHAIR COVINGTON.
UM, SO I WILL READ THE, UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE LETTER.
YOU GUYS, I BELIEVE HAVE IT IN FRONT.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND GO FROM THERE.
SO, THE AD, UM, JUNE 17TH, 2024, THE EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION, EHRC, ESTABLISHED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS THE DEFACING OF BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ART, AND TO DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ITS PRESERVATION IN LONG BEACH.
SINCE ITS CREATION, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS MET SEVERAL TIMES TO STRATEGIZE, IDENTIFY KEY STAKEHOLDERS, AND GATHER INFORMATION REGARDING THESE INCIDENTS.
AS PART OF ITS EFFORTS, THE COMMITTEE COORDINATED MEETINGS WITH THE LONG BEACH ARTS COUNCIL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE ISSUE AND EXPLORE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.
THE ARC COUNCIL PROVIDED INSIGHT INTO THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR RESTORING DEBASED ARTWORK, AND EXPLAINED THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN CITY OWNED ART INSTALLATIONS AND ARTWORK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, EACH OF WHICH FOLLOWS DIFFERENT RESTORATION PROTOCOLS.
ADDITIONALLY, THEY SHARED THAT LONG BEACH ONCE HAD A DEDICATED COMMUNITY SPACE WHERE LOCAL ARTISTS COULD COLLABORATE AND CREATE, WHICH WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN REDUCING DEBASEMENT OF MURALS AND OTHER PUBLIC ARTWORKS.
THE EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION IN LONG BEACH IS DEDICATED TO FOSTERING SOCIAL JUSTICE AND EQUITY WITHIN THE CITY, AIMING TO INSPIRE MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND RESPECT AMONG ALL RESIDENTS.
A SIGNIFICANT ASPECT OF THIS MISSION INVOLVES ADDRESSING THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES FACED BY BLACK, INDIGENOUS, AND PEOPLE OF COLOR BIPOC COMMUNITIES BY FOCUSING ON BIPOC ISSUES.
THE EHRC SEEKS TO ENSURE HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED GROUPS RECEIVE EQUITABLE TREATMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES PROMOTING A MORE INCLUSIVE AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY.
THE COMMISSION WAS INFORMED THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN MURALS AND STATUES WERE BEING DEFACED AROUND THE CITY, RESULTING IN THE COMMITTEE'S DECISION TO PRIORITIZE DEFACING AFRICAN AMERICAN ART IN THE COMMUNITY.
DEFACING ART CAN MANIFEST UNDERLYING SOCIAL TENSIONS, CULTURAL DISRESPECT, OR TARGETED DISCRIMINATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ART WORK REPRESENTS OR IS CREATED BY A BIPOC ARTIST.
THE EHRC ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING CULTURAL EXPRESSIONS AND CONFRONTING ACTIONS THAT MAY UNDERMINE COMMUNITY COHESION AND RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY.
THE EH R'S FOCUS ON BIPOC CONCERNS AND ART DEFACEMENT UNDERSCORES ITS COMMITMENT TO PROMOTING EQUITY, CULTURAL APPRECIATION, AND MUTUAL RESPECT WITHIN LONG BEACH.
TO ENSURE CONTINUED PRESERVATION OF BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ARE IN LONG BEACH, THE EHRC RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS.
PROTECTIVE CODING REQUIRE THE APPLICATION OF PROTECTIVE COATINGS ON ALL PUBLIC ARTWORK, REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP, TO PREVENT AND MITIGATE VANDALISM INCREASED FUNDING, ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE, INCLUDING IMPROVED LIGHTING AND WALL RESTORATION TO HELP SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC ART AND DESIGNATED CREATIVE SPACES.
ESTABLISH A DESIGNATED SPACE WHERE GRAFFITI ARTISTS CAN CREATE FREELY FOSTERING ARTISTIC EXPRESSION WHILE REDUCING THE LIKELIHOOD OF FUTURE DEBASEMENT.
WE ASK ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO PROTECT AND CELEBRATE THE ARTISTIC AND CULTURAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS IN LONG BEACH.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER TO PRESERVE THE CITY'S DIVERSE CULTURAL HERITAGE EQUITY, HUMAN RELATIONS.
UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE IN THE ZOOM, PLEASE USE THE TIME NOW.
AND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC IN PERSON, UM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND SEEING THEM BOTH IN AND IN PERSON.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND NOW I'LL GO AROUND IF ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY COMMENTS, ANY EDITS.
THIS LETTER IS A DRAFT, SO IF THERE ARE ANY EDITS, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THOSE EDITS.
BEFORE WE FINALIZE THIS SLIDE, PLEASE BE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
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WE THIS, UH, WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY.UM, I, UH, DO NOT HAVE THE LETTER IN FRONT OF ME, SO I TRY TO TAKE AS BEST NOTES ON THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WAS ABLE TO TAKE DOWN WAS, UH, PROTECTIVE CODING, UH, AND THEN FUNDING FOR, UM, THE ARTWORK WAS, THE LAST ONE WAS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR, UM, CREATIVE ART.
I, UM, SPACES, UM, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, AROUND THE PROTECTIVE CODING, UM, I, IF POSSIBLE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT INCLUDE THAT PROTECTIVE CODING WILL BE PLACED ON, UH, CURRENTLY EXISTING AND ANY NEW ARTWORK, UH, ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, WITHIN THE CITY, LIKE TO MAKE THAT FRIENDLY RECOMMENDATION TO THE RECOMMENDATION,
UM, AND THEN, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDING, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, THE DESIGNATED CREATED SPACES, UM, INCLUDING, UM, A PARTNERSHIP WITH COUNCIL DISTRICTS, UH, TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC, UH, LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT COULD BE DETERMINED AS THOSE DESIGNATED SPACES.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT PROJECT THAT THE COUNCIL OFFICE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE A, AN IDEA FOR A LAST ONE IS, UH, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COORDINATION OF THE ART ITSELF? UM, SO PUT, UM, POSSIBLY PROPOSING A PROTOCOL OF WHICH DEPARTMENTS, UM, WHICH PARTNERS ARE INCLUDED, AND THEN WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE IF THAT PROTOCOL WERE TO BE DETERMINED, UM, THEN THE FUNDING ATTACHED TO IT WILL BE IDENTIFIED AS A SPECIFIC FUNDING GOAL, UM, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN, UM, FUNDRAISE FOR OR, UM, PRIVATE DONORS OR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
UM, AND THOSE ARE MY, UH, ADDITIONS TO THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
DO YOU ACCEPT HIS FRIENDLY? I DO, YES.
AND THEN YOU SECOND AND YOU WERE A SECOND.
AND IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ? UM, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF, UH, OF THINGS LAID OUT IN THIS, UH, IN RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC ARTWORKS, UH, MIGHT BE TOO AMBIGUOUS.
WHAT CONSTITUTES PUBLIC ARTWORKS? JUST BY SOMEONE SAYING, THAT'S MY ART, AND NOW YOU HAVE TO PROTECT IT.
IS THIS THINGS CONTRACTED BY THE CITY? AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT, UH, RIBBON YOU HERE.
I THINK IT, IT, YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE TAKING OVER A BUSINESS WALL OR FREEWAY WALL THAT'S, THAT'S NOT UNDER OUR PURVIEW AND SAYING, WELL, THIS IS NOW YOUR PUBLIC ARTWORK.
UM, AND YOU HAVE TO PUT PROTECTIVE CODING.
UH, SO I, I WOULD, WHEN YOU SAY ALL PUBLIC ARTWORKS, I SEE ART UP AND DOWN FOUR, FIVE ON THE SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS ALL THE TIME WITHIN OUR CITY.
UH, UH, AND I, I SURE WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UH, UH, PERMITTED, UH, UH, UH, AND, AND PROPERLY
IT DOESN'T WORK WHEN WE'RE ALLOWED TO PAINT ON, UH, POWER BOXES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN DAMAGE THAT WERE, WERE, UM, LOCATED BY THE CITY, THOSE SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
BUT, UM, I THINK ALL PUBLIC ART WORKS.
AND I HATE, I HATE BRINGING UP IDEAS WITHOUT, UH, BRINGING SOLUTIONS UP.
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WE WOULD WORD THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TAKE ANOTHERUM, BECAUSE REALLY ANYTHING IN ANY PART, GRAFFITI ON FREEWAY SCIENCE IS A, THERE'S A FORM OF ART IN THE PUBLIC MM-HMM
UH, AND DOES THAT, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I DO MM-HMM
POLICY, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE SPECIFIC, SO THE ART SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
I, UM, I, I, I AGREE WITH THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE WHEN, WHEN WE SAY HARD WORK, WHAT DO ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM
BECAUSE IT KIND MEANS SOMETHING TO INTERPRETATION MM-HMM
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, I SEE YOUR HAND DOWN THERE.
I'M SORRY, I I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT.
I, I'M NOT QUESTIONING IF, IF GRAFFITI IS ART OR NOT.
I'M NOT TRYING BRING THAT, BUT, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THERE'S SOME KIND OF PERMIT PROCESS WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO A, A CITY MURAL.
I DON'T NEEDS TO BE PULLED BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T BUILD A A, A BENCH IN A SCHOOL.
THE SCHOOL HAS TO BUILD THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT IN PERPETUITY, AND THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE AND LEGAL.
UM, COMMISSIONER FLORES, JUST A REAL QUICK, RILEY, I KNOW THAT THIS, UM, A COMMITTEE WAS CREATED BECAUSE OF THE, OF BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN ART.
WHICH CITY? THINK CITY APPROVED ART.
AND, UM, ANY, WHAT THIS, THIS LETTER SHOULD SAY THAT STATE IS THAT IT'S ART THAT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS WANTS TO DO AN ART PIECE.
LIKE THERE'S, UM, IN CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS VERSUS AWESOME LIQUOR STORE ON THE CORNER, AND A COMMUNITY
UM, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CITY, SO MAYBE YOU WANNA MAKE A DISTINCTION.
UM, AND WHAT I WANNA, MY, MY MAIN THING IS IT STARTED BECAUSE OF BIPOC.
SO, ON NUMBER ONE, OR BEFORE WE START, NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ART.
AND I THINK THAT BECAUSE SHOULD INCLUDE ALL IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED THIS, THIS AD HOC TO BE CREATED.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, ALL BIPOC, RIGHT? ALL BI BIPOC, UM, COMMUNITIES, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK EVERY TIME.
NOW, THE, NOW THE HISPANIC, YOU KNOW, MURAL WAS TO THIS.
NOW AN INDIGENOUS MURAL WAS BASED, SO WE WE'RE INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE BIPOC COMMUNITIES.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? IN THE FUTURE OF, I KIND OF BE SAID HERE IN THIS PARAGRAPH THAT STARTS THE 1, 2, 3.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE C PARAGRAPH NUMBER ONE, UM, THE SENTENCE RIGHT ABOVE IT SAYS, PRESERVATION OF BLACK AND AFRICAN IN LONG BEACH.
AND THEN ON NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS ON ALL PUBLIC ARTWORKS.
AND THERE'S ALSO A SECTION THAT SAYS, UH, PRIORITIZING, UH, DECISION TO PRIORITIZE FACING AFRICAN AMERICAN PART COMMUNITY.
SO I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE GOING NARROW, FOCUSING ON AFRICAN AMERICAN PART AND FACING AND WORKING TO PROTECT THOSE.
AND THEN NUMBER ONE MOVES ON TO ALL PUBLIC ART WORK.
THE INTENT IS TO JUST FOCUS ON THE BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ART FOR ALL PUBLIC WORKS.
SO I ADDED THE FIRST ONE SO THAT THE, UM, ALSO HAVE A COMMENT REGARDING TO THE INCREASED FUNDING.
UH, THE CITY JUST COMPLETED ITS COMMUNITY BUDGETING MEETINGS, UM, THE THIRD OF THIS MONTH, AND IT'S NOW WITH THE
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CITY.AND THEN IN AUGUST, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS RELATED TO THE PROPOSALS.
SO I KNOW FOR FACT THAT, UH, PROTECTION, THERE WAS ONE OF THE CATEGORIES THERE WAS TO, UH, ARTWORK OR JUST PROTECTING C HISTORIC PRESERVATION, SOMETHING IN VARIOUS, UM, FORUMS. THERE WERE, UM, SEVEN OR, AND SO THIS COME TIME IN AUGUST, I WANNA GO BACK TO NUMBER ONE, BUT PROTECTED.
UM, I, I LISTEN AND I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE CONCERNS.
AND I THINK NOT ONLY DO WE PUT THE WORD EXISTING IN THERE, BUT IF WE PUT EXISTING BI PUBLIC ARTWORK, THAT TAKES US BACK TO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.
UM, THIS ALL CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE DEFACING OF THE, OF THE, AND THE DEFACING OF THE, OF THE BOXES WERE BOXES THAT CONTAIN SUCH AS DID DR. KING, DR. MARTIN KING.
THAT'S THE FIRST PROJECT MY ATTENTION.
SO I'M THINKING PERHAPS WE JUST INSERT OF PROTECTIVE ON ALL EXISTING IPOC PUBLIC ARTWORKS, REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP, TO PREVENT AND MITIGATE VANDALISM.
AND THAT WAY WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL OF THE ART THAT'S BEEN CREATED BY PEOPLE.
BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE ADDRESS ART THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S BEEN CREATED BY AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACING OF THE ART THAT'S BEEN CREATED BY THE LATIN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WE INCLUDE ALL OF THE CULTURES IN THIS STATEMENT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, TONY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED PRESERVATION, UM, INSTEAD OF, OF BLACK AND AFRICAN AND AMERICAN COMMUNITY ART, WE WOULD PUT OF, UM, BIPOC.
SO BLACK, INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR MM-HMM
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE THE BIPOC, UM, ART, OR SORRY.
THAT, SO FOR THAT LINE, AND THEN UNDER NUMBER ONE, UH, CHAIR COVINGTON, I THINK COMBINING WHAT CHAIR COVINGTON AND BUTLER HAS STATED, IT WOULD SAY, REQUIRED THE APPLICATION OF PROTECTIVE COATINGS ON ALL EXISTING AND NEW BIPOC ARTWORK, UM, REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP, OR WE COULD SAY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, ONE OR THE, BECAUSE, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, COVINGTON NOTED PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK IF WE SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE OF, REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP, NEW SLASH FUTURE, WHAT'S NEW, YOU MAY NOT BE EXISTING SLASH NEW SLASH FUTURE YEAH.
OR EXISTING IN FUTURE EXACTLY.
IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF NEW EXISTING AND FUTURE.
SO I, I REMEMBER BEING IN A MEETING WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INCREASED FUNDING, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT GRANTS OR IS THAT FOR LIKE, WHO, WHO DOES THE MAINTENANCE? SO WHEN WE MET WITH THEM, UM, THE ARTS COUNCIL, THE CITY DOES SOME, BUT IF IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, THE CITY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, SO PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSPEAKING, BUT IF IT WAS A NONPROFIT AND THE CITY DIDN'T NECESSARILY TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT, UM, BUT IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CATEGORIZED AND IN THE CATALOG OF THE ARTS, UM, COUNCIL, THEN THE CITY WOULD COME IN AND HELP WITH THAT.
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UM, UM, COMMENTS MM-HMMYOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAID FOR SOMEONE SUGGEST OFFICES, I WOULD ALSO SEE, UM, THE LONG BEACH ARTS COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOVERNMENT FUNDED AND THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN THIS, THIS AREA.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICES TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS SPECIFICALLY.
SO JUST, JUST TO PIGGY BACK ON THAT, BECAUSE WE DID GO TO, UH, WE DID ATTEND A MEETING WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL JUST BECAUSE THE ARE, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR MANY OF THE, UM, AND THEY DO, THEY PRESERVE THEM WITH PROTECTIVE CODE FOR CITY SANCTIONED ARTWORK.
UM, THEY DID HAVE SOME APPREHENSIONS IN REGARDS TO PLACING ARTWORK ON CERTAIN WALLS BECAUSE OF THE STABILITY OF THE WALL.
AND IT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT WALL.
JUST BECAUSE MAINTENANCE OR IT MIGHT DESTROY THE WALL OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THEY ALSO DID, UH, TAKE A TO CONSIDERATION THAT MANY, UH, ALTHOUGH THEY DO DO MONITOR MANY OF THE ART, MANY OF THE ART HERE AT LONG BEACH, THERE ARE A HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF PIECES THAT ARE, THAT ARE NOT SANCTIONED, AND THEY'RE JUST RANDOM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THROUGH THE
UM, IT'S A, THOSE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT SANCTIONED.
THAT'S WHAT, UM, I FORGET THE LADY WHO WAS SPEAKING ON THERE, BUT SHE WAS EXPLAINING JUST THAT THERE'S THOUSANDS, BECAUSE THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT NON-PROFITS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHO DO FOCUS ON THE ART, BUT THOSE ONES ARE NOT, UM, THE MAINTENANCE IS NOT DONE THROUGH THE CITY TO KEEP THOSE UP.
SO I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE AN INTERNAL PROCESS OF HOW TO MAINTAIN THE, IT'S PROVIDING, COLLABORATING WITH, LIKE ARTS COUNCIL MAYBE PROVIDE TO SEE IF WE CAN BOLSTER THEIR SERVICES MM-HMM
AND WHAT AN APPLICATION PROCESS IN WHICH THE CAN APPLY TO HAVE THEIR, AND SO, UM, AND THAT WE HAVE WITH, UM, UNDER NUMBER THREE, THE DESIGNATED SPACE, UM, NUMBER FOUR COULD BE, UM, INCLUDING A PARTNERSHIP WITH COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND ARTS COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A SPACE, UM, AND YEAH, A FORMALIZED PROCESS TO PRESERVE THEIR, THEIR FEATURE ARTWORK, THE VIABILITY OF THE WALL AND THE LOCATION, BECAUSE YEAH.
AND THEN WHAT WAS ALSO INTERESTING IS SHE HAD MENTIONED THERE WERE CERTAIN PIECES, CERTAIN MURALS, LIKE IN
THEY'RE ON CHERRY, THIS BEAUTIFUL, UM, IT'S A YELLOW AND BLUE.
AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND NEVER HAS BEEN, BEEN FACED.
AND IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW WHY, WHY, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME REASON IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY RESPECT THAT MM-HMM
UM, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THE MEANING IS BEHIND IT.
UH, UH, WAS WAS THE PLACEMENT OF THE MURAL, UH, YOU KNOW, ON PURPOSE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WAS IT STRATEGIC, IT'S LIT, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE WE CAN, UM, HAVE INITIATIVES WHERE WE ARE FOCUSING ON SPECIFIC RURAL, UM, THAT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, CERTAIN SECTIONS TO APPEAL TO OUR, AND I, I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS OR NOT, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING THE DIFFERENT ART WORK THAT EXISTS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW, THE OUTSIDE ARTWORK AND WHO THE OWNERS OF THE PIECES ARE.
I DUNNO IF YOU COULD GET THAT.
THE ART COUNCIL SUGGESTED THAT THEY DO HAVE A DATABASE THAT HAS THAT OR ART THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE CATEGORIZED.
BUT SHE SAID THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT FOR ANYTHING THAT'S, UM, IN EXISTENCE THROUGH THE NONPROFITS.
I I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, A GOOD FIT, HAVE PIECE OF INFORMATION.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL WOULD BE.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY THIS AD HOC WAS CREATED AND WHY WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE TWO BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN ART PIECES IS, AND, AND JUST SAYING WHERE THOSE ART PIECES ARE AND WHAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT GIVES IT MORE OF A FOCUS AND ENGAGEMENT ON THE IMPORTANCE OF
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WHY WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT AWAY.ESPECIALLY THAT VERSUS WHAT COMMISSIONER, I MESS HIS NAME UP AT THE END OF THE TABLE, POINTED OUT CAMBODIA TOWN, THOSE PIECES, NEVER THE FACE.
SO WE HAVE OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN THE CASE, AND WE LOOK AT THE SLIDES.
SO, I HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS, UM, TO THE, UH, THE CHALLENGE THAT COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ WAS IDENTIFYING, UM, THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH SAYING ALL ART, THERE NEEDS TO BE A SPECIFIC DESIGNATION OR CERTIFICATION, UH, THAT SAYS THIS IS A SPECIFIC ARTWORK THAT THE CITY IS DESIGNATING AS AN ARTWORK OF THE CITY.
UM, AND SO I WAS LOOKING ON THE ARTS COUNCIL WEBSITE.
UH, THE ARTS COUNCIL IN, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, WAS FOUNDED BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IN 1976 AS A PUBLIC CORPORATION FOR THE ARTS BECOMING A 5 0 1 C3.
SO THERE'S A LONG, THERE'S A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP THERE.
AND THE ARTS COUNCIL OPERATES AS A, UM, ARM OF THE CITY IN SOME CAPACITIES.
UM, AND THAT MAY NOT BE TRUE, UM, BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ARTS COUNCIL.
SO, UH, BY INCLUDING THE ARTS COUNCIL AS A PARTNER, AS A AS WHO CAN MANAGE A SPECIFIC DATABASE OF DESIGNATED ART THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT MEETS A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, UH, CULTURAL, UM, HOW DO YOU SAY CULTURAL, UH, SIGNIFICANCE, UH, ET CETERA, UH, THEN WE CAN THEN HAVE A, A DATABASE OF LIKE, HERE'S ALL THE ARTWORK IN THE CITY THAT REQUIRES, UM, THE PROTECTIVE CODING, WHETHER IT BE ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE, UM, PROPERTY.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP, UM, WITH THE PROCESS AND THE PROTOCOL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONERS BUTLER'S REQUEST FOR ITEM ONE, OR EXCUSE ME.
RECOMMENDATION ONE, TO BE SPECIFIC TO NEW AND EXISTING BIPOC ART.
UH, I THINK, UM, WHILE THE INTENTION IS, IS GREAT TO SAY WE WANNA FOCUS ON THE ART THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY DEFACED, UM, IT, IT ERASES THE OTHER ARTWORK THAT EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO INSTEAD OF SAYING, UM, PRIORITY, UH, INSTEAD OF SAYING NEW AND EXISTING BIPOC ARTWORK, UH, I WOULD ASK, UH, IF COMMISSIONER BUTLER WOULD BE OPEN TO AMENDING THAT LANGUAGE TO SAYING ALL, UH, NEW AND EXISTING ARTWORK WITH A PRIORITY OF OUR BIPOC ARE, UM, IN PUBLIC PRIVATE LOCATIONS.
UM, WE DECIDED TO, INSTEAD OF USING THE WORD NEW, WE WOULD JUST SAY, AND FUTURE, SO EXISTING AND FUTURE, UM, ARTWORK.
SO WITH THE PRIORITY, LIKE WITH THE, EXACTLY.
SO I, I AGREE WITH, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CHAIR JUST SUGGESTED.
AND THEN, UH, MAYBE UNDER NUMBER ONE, A NEW RECOMMENDATION CAN BE LIKE ONE A OR MAYBE EVEN JUST HAVE IT BE THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION.
IT CAN READ PARTNER WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL OF LONG BEACH TO IDENTIFY, SPONSOR AND CERTIFY PUBLIC ART IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND MANAGE THE PROTECTIVE CODING PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
THAT WAY, A, THAT WAY WE KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS BEING RESPONSIBLE
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FOR, FOR MANAGING WHICH ARTS ARE GETTING THE, THE PROTECTIVE CODING, AND WHO WE CAN GO TO TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE OF LIKE, HEY, THESE ARE AREN'T, AREN'T RECEIVING THE PUBLIC CODING.HOW CAN WE FIX THAT IN THE FUTURE? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT? JUST THE PARTNER WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL IN LONG BEACH? YEAH.
SO IT READS, UM, PARTNER WITH THE ART COUNCIL OF LONG BEACH TO IDENTIFY, SPONSOR AND CERTIFY PUBLIC ART IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND MANAGE THE PROTECTIVE CODING PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC ARTS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IN THE PROTECTIVE CODING, SOMEONE HAS TO GO AND DO IT.
AND TYPICALLY THAT'S THE PUBLIC, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE A BACKLOG OF ACTUAL THOSE REQUESTS.
SO MAYBE IT'S PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, MANAGING IT AND PARTNERING WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL, EITHER OR.
BUT, UM, THOSE TWO ENTITIES FEEL LIKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND WHO HAVE THE MOST EXPERTISE AS TO LIKE MANAGING THAT PROCESS.
AND SO I SEE ONE THAT WOULD 2, 3, 4, 5 RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU COUNTING, NATALIE? I HAVE A LOT NOTES.
WELL, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD ADD, UH, TO CHAIR COVINGTON'S, UM, BOY, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE THE WEED SOMETIMES, BUT, UM, I, EVERYBODY HAS A LOT OF IDEAS FOR THE CITY, AND THEY NEVER MENTIONED THE FUNDING SOURCE, AND THAT IS WHY THEY'RE OFTEN JUST IGNORED OR, OR NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THEY, THEY'RE JUST NOT MOVED FORWARD BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A GREAT IDEA.
THE FUNDING FROM THIS, AT LEAST ON FUTURE ART.
UH, UM, I'M TRYING TO DO RESEARCH RIGHT NOW ON MY PHONE TO SEE IF THERE'S A PROCESS FOR APPLYING FOR OUR PROJECT, BUT IF THERE WAS, AND SOME CITIES HAVE THAT, YOU APPLY FOR IT AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO JUST HAVE THE SPACE.
UH, ANY FUTURE PERMITS, UH, SHALL BE, UH, SHALL HAVE A PROTECTIVE COATING AS ITS SPINAL COAT, AS A, A REQUIREMENT OF THE, THE PERMIT APPROVAL WHERE WHOEVER'S CREATING THE ART NEEDS TO DO THAT.
JUST LIKE YOU STUCK ON YOUR HOUSE BEFORE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WILL SIGN OFF ON YOUR EXTENSION, HAVE, GET STUCK UP, BELIEVE ME.
UH, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP COMING BACK FOR SIX MONTHS.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO THE FUNDING FROM THAT COULD COME FROM THE, THE NONPROFIT OR ARTISTS DOING THAT.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO BUDGET IN A COUPLE BUCKETS OF A COUPLE GALLONS OF PROTECTIVE, HEY, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS GOING INTO THE WEEDS HERE.
SO WE HAVE ARTS COUNCILS, PUBLIC WORKS, BUT, UH, PROTECTIVE CODING OF FUTURE PROJECTS COULD BE PART OF THAT APPLICATION PROCESS.
YOU WANNA WANNA PAINT, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA PUT THE FIRST PROTECTIVE THING UP AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS WILL TAKE ON, IS HIS COMMISSIONER'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD HELP EXPEDITE THE PROCESS? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WOULD TAKE A, THE FUNDING ASPECT AND, AND WHATEVER FIVE STEPS YOU GOTTA DO TO, TO HAVE THE CITY PAY AND APPLY THAT PROTECTIVE CODING MM-HMM
AND, AND LEAVE THAT WITH THE ARTIST WHO WILL TAKE GREAT CARE AND HAVE PROBABLY THE MOST AMOUNT OF PERSONAL EQUITY IN WANTING TO PROTECT HIS OR HER.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO, ONE QUESTION IS, UH, HOW MUCH COSTS TO APPLY? I WORRY IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE FROM THE COST OF THAT, THE FLIP VERY CHEAP, MAKES EASIER, EASIER SELL.
SO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH IT COST.
I REALLY DON'T RECALL, BUT, SO I, I, I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT SAID THAT IT'S, IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE AND EASIER TO,
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UM, TO, UH, PUT ON THE ARTWORK WHEN IT'S UNIQUE VERSUS IF IT'S OLDER, HISTORIC, AND THEN IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCESS.UM, SO I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE.
UM, BUT I, I'M SURE THE P COUNCIL YEAH.
I RECALL WHEN SHE SAID THAT, BUT I DIDN'T RECALL THE NUMBER.
YEAH, SHE DIDN'T, SO YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK UP TO THE LOS ANGELES, UM, ARTS COUNCIL.
THEY'VE GOT ONE GROUP, IT'S CALLED SAR, AND THEY PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR ARTISTS.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, LIKE THEY EVEN PARTNERED WITH THIS COMPANY CALLED MURAL SHIELD.
SO, AND LIKE I KNOW THAT IT COVERS LIKE, I LIKE 65, BUT IT'S THE, IT'S THE LABOR THAT'S THE COST.
BUT THAT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FIRST THING, UNFORTUNATELY THAT LOT PEOPLE ASK ON COUNCIL ABOUT $5 MILLION VERSUS IT JUST A FEW THOUSAND.
BUT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE LA THEY ARE, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TOO, SO TOUCH BASE.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LIKE $10 TO COVER WHOLE PIECE LIKE THAT.
IF IT'S $400, THAT MAY MAKE IT SPEND A LOT OF JUST ON PEOPLE, IT MIGHT, MIGHT HAVE IVER SHOWING.
SO WE DON'T WANNA, SO I THINK
AND, UH, LOOKING ON AMAZON, UH, IT'S ABOUT $40, 40 TO $50 A GALLON FOR ANTI GRAFFITI.
JUST ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO SEE IF THE CHAIR HAS HIS STAND UP CHAIR.
UM, SO ON THE TOPIC OF THE, THE FUNDING, UM, THE, FROM PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, THE CITY MANAGER RE OFTEN REQUESTS OR IS REQUESTED TO CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY, UM, OF NEW PROJECTS, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN DO ALL THE RESEARCH NECESSARY TO HAVE A FULL FLEDGED, UH, PLAN.
SO FOR THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT INCLUDES THE FUNDING ASPECT, UM, I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO INCREASE FUNDING.
CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO INCREASE FUNDING AND THEN IDENTIFY THE COST FOR THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN THE REST OF IT CAN STAY THE SAME, UH, THAT WAY WE CAN KNOCK THAT OUT.
UM, AND THEN TO COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ'S QUESTION ABOUT PERMITTING.
I DO NOT BELIEVE, AND I CAN BE WRONG, I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS A PERMITTING PROCESS, UM, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT INCLUDES ART IN THE CITY.
TYPICALLY, IT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ARTIST AND THE ENTITY THAT THE PROPERTY BELONGS TO, BUT THERE'S NO PERMITTING PROCESS BECAUSE THAT WOULD CREATE AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER, UM, TO HAVING THE ART ACTUALLY BE, UH, BE CREATED ON THOSE SPACES.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS DONE, DONE IN, IN A HANDSHAKE OR WRITTEN AGREEMENT, UH, BETWEEN THE ARTIST AND, AND THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY.
UM, WHICH I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND PERSONALLY TO INCLUDE A PERMITTING PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA CREATE AN, AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF STEPS THAT FOLKS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR ART TO BE CREATED.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THE CITY SHOULDN'T BE FUNDING PROTECTED COURTING HONOR ANYWAYS.
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I MEAN, IT'S, THAT'S AN OPINION, UM, IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC PROPERTY.UM, BUT IF, IF THERE'S A, A SPECIFIC ARTWORK THAT HAS CULTURAL COMMUNITY, UH, SIGNIFICANCE WHERE LIKE IT THEN BECOMES THE CULTURE OF THE CITY, THEN THAT'S A QUESTION OF LIKE, SHOULD THE CITY IDENTIFY IT AND CERTIFY IT AND TAKE IT ON A AS ITS OWN? BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S THE COST ELEMENT TOO, UM, WHICH IS LIKE PUBLIC PROPERTY COMMISSIONER JUST SPIT BOWING HERE.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF DIFFERENT FIELDS WHERE A COMMUNITY-BASED ARCHIVAL PROCESS IS INVOLVED.
I'M THINKING ABOUT APPS LIKE INATURALIST OR EVENTS THAT THE CITY HAVE, UH, AT WILLOW SPRINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SUBMIT PLANTS THAT PEOPLE SEE AROUND.
MAYBE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN OUR PROPOSED NUMBER FOUR TO HAVE COMMUNITY FIND AND SUBMIT THE ARTWORKS TO THE ARTS ARTS COUNCIL AND PERHAPS CREATE A DATABASE, ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA PROTECT.
OR, THIS IS ONE OF THE ARTWORKS THAT'S BEEN BASED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS, UH, COVERED.
SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL BARRIERS TO FOLKS WHO ARE WANTING TO CREATE NEW WORKS, NO MORE, UH, APPLICATIONS OR PERMITING PROCESSES, BUT MORE EMPOWERMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, THIS IS A PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT WOULD BE COMBINED WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
SO IT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A COMMUNITY BASED FEASIBILITY STUDY, IF THAT'S LIKE A POTHOLE BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS OPPORTUNITY.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALSO HAVE REPETITIVE DATA SO WE COULD PRIORITIZE WHICH PAINTINGS GO IN THE ORDER, UM, THAT PUBLIC WORKS MIGHT BE GOING TOWARDS, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE A BACKLOG REQUEST.
SO I LIKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
YOU MIGHT NEED, UM, COMMISSIONER DAY LEONE TO UPGRADE THE GO APP COMMUNITY SURVEY, AND THEN WE PROMOTE.
SO TELL ME, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF NOTES, I HAVE A LOT OF NOTES.
UM, SHOULD WE RE CRAFT A DRAFT?
UM, BUT ADAM WAS JUST TO HAVE CONVERSATION, DISCUSSION, WHICH YOU HAVE AND IT'S VERY FRUITFUL.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IF APPROPRIATE WE'RE, I'M NOT GATHERING THAT IT'S, IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT YET, NO.
UM, SO YEAH, UH, I THINK DEFINITELY TAKE THIS DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS.
MAYBE I RECOMMEND, UM, INCLUDING THE ARTS COUNCIL AND COLLABORATION, THE DRAFTING OF THE LETTER, UM, SO THAT, YEAH.
MAY I PROPOSE THAT WE INCORPORATE A, UM, ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO A NEW DRAFT AND THAT WE SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS A PROPOSED DRAFT LETTER.
UM, WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? AND WE HAVE OUTLINED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS WELL THAT WE CAN, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE IN HERE, BUT WE NEEDED A LITTLE OF YOUR EXPERTISE, UM, TO HELP US OUT.
SO WE'LL SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH A NEW PROPOSED DRAFT AMEND MOTION, GO BACK TO THE BI COMMITTEE TO DRAFT A NEW LETTER, OR, UM, REVISE THE LETTER, REVISE THE LETTER, AND THEN WORK ALONG DOLLARS COUNCIL OR, UM, AND THEN SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE ART COUNCIL TO
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PRESENT THE NEW DRAFT, UM, IN ADDITION TO ASKING THEM A FEW CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.AND THEN WILL THIS COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL? YES.
SO WE DO WANNA SPECIFY THAT IN THE, IN THE MOTION.
THEN THAT'LL COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER COVING OR CHAIR COVINGTON.
UH, IF POSSIBLE, UM, AND I'LL LEAVE THIS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE, OF THE AD HOC, UH, TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN THE PROCESS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
AND TONY, YOU CAN SCHEDULE THOSE ABSOLUTELY.
SO WHAT'S OUR NEW RECOMMENDATION?
TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT AMENDED TO GO BACK TO THE BIPOC IMMIGRATION AD HOC COMMITTEE, TO REDRAFT THE LETTER WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS DISCUSSED, UM, TODAY, UM, AND SCHEDULE IN A MEETING WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL AND PUBLIC WORK AND PUBLIC WORKS TO, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH OFF TO REVIEW THE DRAFT AND THEN GET ALIGNMENT.
AND THEN BRING BACK TO THE POSITION FOR APPROVAL AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, APPROVE BY THE MOVER AND THE SECRETARY.
CAN WE CALL FOR A VOTE, MADAM CLERK? YES.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT.
CONCURRENT ADC COMMITTEES DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS, AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DEVELOP OR CREATE ADHOC COMMITTEES.
UM, I CAN SAY WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE BI, SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE ENVIRONMENTALIST.
I'M SORRY, BEFORE WE MOVE, I GET A MOTION.
UM, AND WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO FIRST WE CAN GIVE THE REPORT AND THEN WE CAN CALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO ENVIRONMENTAL UPDATES, PLEASE.
SO WE HAVE, UM, THE CONTINUING STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT GROUPS.
UH, SOME OF THEM MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN OTHERS.
UH, SO WE'RE CONTINUE TO DO OUTREACH, UH, AS PART OF OUR FACT FINDING WORK.
UM, STAFF HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE IN HELPING DO SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT'S ONGOING ON AREA CRIMINAL ADJUSTMENTS, IMPLICATIONS, UH, AS PART OF REVIEW C REPORTS.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE TOPIC TABLE FOR TODAY ON EQUITY TEAM UP IN OUR CONVERSATIONS.
SO THERE MAY BE SPACE FOR US TO LOOK AT IN OF THAT, IN THE CONTEXT OF JUSTICE PIECE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NOW, STILL ONGOING, UM, BUT HAVE MORE REPORT.
COMMISSIONER
WE DID NOT MEET AGAIN SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS LATE FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
SO WE WILL CONVENE PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING.
ANY OTHER AD HOC UPDATES? ALL RIGHT.
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PUBLIC COMMENT.IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE USE FEATURE AND IN PERSON YOUR HAND, SEEING NONE IN PERSON.
THAT COMMENT ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
UM, CREATE, UM, WE NEED TO CREATE A, A, UM, AD HOC HERE.
YOU WANT ME TO LEAD THAT ONE? YES, PLEASE.
UM, SO AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY IN SUPPORTING, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR LISTENING SESSIONS, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED FOR THEM TO START, AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWER PORTION, UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A SPECIFIC NEED OF SUPPORT.
UH, AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED IS TO SYNTHESIZE AND COMB THROUGH THE SPECIFIC FINDINGS OF THE LISTENING SESSIONS.
SO LIKE EVERY PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, ISSUES RAISED, UH, SOLUTIONS OFFERED, UM, AND, AND LIKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY.
SO, UM, INITIALLY WHAT WE WERE THINKING IS THAT THE PROCESS MAY BE A LOW LIFT, BUT AFTER REVIEWING SOME OF THE PROCESS, OTHER LISTENING SESSION PROCESSES AND PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGH THE CITY, IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES A, A, A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAVIER LIFT.
AND RIGHT NOW, OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY STAFF, UH, HAVE, UH, A LOT ON THEIR PLATES, BOTH ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, BUT ALSO, UH, WITH CAPACITY AT THIS TIME DURING THE SEASON.
SO, UM, VICE CHAIR AND I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE AN AD HOC, UH, FOR THE LISTENING SESSIONS TO, UM, DEVELOP OUT A REPORT AND A REPORT THAT INCLUDES THE FINDINGS OF THE LISTENING SESSIONS, UM, BY OUR MAY RETREAT, WHICH IS MAY 3RD.
UH, AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE RESEARCHERS ON THE COMMISSION, UH, AND FOLKS WHO REALLY LOVE TO, TO DIVE DEEP INTO THE DATA.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE THE ASK IF, UH, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS, UH, WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JOINING THAT TEAM.
UH, IT WOULD BE, UH, MYSELF AND THE VICE CHAIR AT THIS TIME.
AND WE WERE LOOKING TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JOINING.
UM, I KNOW I HAVE AN ASK, UH, FOR DR. LARA TO JOIN.
UH, BUT, UH, HE'S NOT HERE AT THIS TIME, SO, UM, I WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH HIM AT A LATER TIME.
BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAD AN INTEREST TO, TO DUST OFF THEIR RESEARCHER SKILLS, UH, AND PRACTICES AND, AND HELP, UM, US DEVELOP A, A, A STRONG REPORT.
TAKE HER AT THIS TIME, WOULD LIKE TO JOIN.
AND SO WE HAVE, UM, COMMISSIONER, DR. MCNEIL.
UM, BETWEEN THE FOUR OF US CURRENTLY WITH THE POSSIBLE ADDITION OF, UH, DR. LARA, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO KNOCK IT OUT.
UM, AND THE, THE WE'LL IN THE AD HOC, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WE'LL DEVELOP A METHODOLOGY AND THEN, UH, WE'LL ROCK AND ROLL.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE FOLKS LEANING INTO THIS EFFORT.
UH, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS IN THIS SPACE, AND SO, UM, SUBTYPES, IT TAKES A VILLAGE.
UH, WE APPRECIATE FOLKS LEANING INTO THIS REQUEST.
COMMISSIONER BUTLER? UM, YES, UH, CHAIR COVINGTON.
UM, IS IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SEND US A LIST OF THE COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE BEING INVITED TO THE LISTENING SESSIONS? YES.
UH, WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH AN EMAIL, UH, AND TONY, THAT,
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THAT, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.UM, I DON'T NEED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN, RIGHT? NO.
SO THE MOVER WAS COMMISSIONER BUTLER, AND THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER WILD.
SO DO YOU APPROVE OF THE AMENDMENT TO CREATE THIS AD HOC BUTLER? YES.
AND THEN CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? YES.
OH, PROCESS WISE, SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING.
UM, DO, DO WE, I KNOW THAT WE AMENDED THE MOTION, UM, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THE REST OF THE AD HOCS PRESENT IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO PRESENT.
I KNOW THAT WE ONLY WENT THROUGH THE BIPOC AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP.
WE STILL HAVE THE EQUITY, UH, STATEMENT GROUP, AND THEN THE INSTITUTIONAL BARRIERS GROUP.
COMMISSIONER COLE SAID THAT THEY DID NOT MEET.
SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN UPDATE.
AND IS THAT THE SAME FOR THE ENVIRON, UH, THE, UM, UH, BARRIERS TO, UH, EQUITY AD HOC AS WELL, EDUCATION GROUP? YES.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.
COMMISSIONER S SEAN MALONE? YES.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR RECEIVING FILE.
A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY.
SO, UM, ALL RIGHT, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, UH, ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH YOU, UH, YESTERDAY, THE LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROJECT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE'LL BE HOSTING A COMMUNITY GATHERING AND RESOURCE FAIR.
THIS WILL BE WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY THE 19TH FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM AT FACEBOOK PARK.
UM, YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO PARTICIPATE, ATTEND, AND, UM, OR TABLE IF YOU DESIRE TO DO SO.
AND THEN, UH, UH, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, AUSTRALIA SEEKING, UH, INNOVATORS IN RESILIENCE TO JOIN THE LONG BEACH COL, UH, COLLABORATORY.
UM, LVC COLAB FOR A UNIQUE TWO YEAR LONG PROGRAM WHERE YOU'LL WORK ALONGSIDE LONG BEACH CITY STAFF CO IMPLEMENT TECHNOLOGY DELIVERY SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS REAL NEIGHBORHOOD CHALLENGES.
SO TWO YEAR PROGRAM GOING ON THROUGH RT PROGRAM.
UM, I CAN, UH, IT WAS IN OUR NEWSLETTER, BUT I CAN PULL OUT ALL OF YOU INTERESTED, YOU WANNA SHARE WITH THE AS WELL? UM, YEAH, FOR US RIGHT NOW, OH, SORRY.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH, UH, STRENGTHEN THESE ASSESSMENT SURVEYS CURRENTLY AND LIVE.
SO I WILL ALSO FORWARD THEM INFORMATION TO ALL OF YOU.
UM, IT'S ON
YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH YOUR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE IN THE PLEASE RAISE PERSON.
PLEASE RAISE HAND SEEING THEM BOTH IN PERSON IN FIVE.
WE NEED DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS SO WE CAN, UH, COMMISSIONER, BUT YES.
THERE, THERE WAS A DELAY ON MY
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END.UM, HAS ANYONE ELSE JOINED ON ZOOM? UM, THERE'RE NO PARTICIPANTS.
UM, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AT THIS TIME, I'LL, UM, I, I ATTENDED LAST MEETING, AND YOU WILL HEAR ME SAY THIS, UP THROUGH APRIL.
UM, MY NONPROFIT, THE SPEAK OF EMPOWERMENT FOUNDATION, WILL BE HOSTING OUR NINTH ANNUAL MISS SINGLE MOM EMPOWERMENT FORUM ON APRIL 19TH FROM 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AT THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT, MARRIOTT HOTEL IN THE GRAND BALLROOM.
WE ARE 100% SPONSOR DRIVEN, SO WE ACCEPT ALL DONATIONS AND SPONSORSHIPS.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE DO NOT CHARGE THE WOMEN A DIME TO ATTEND THIS EVENT.
IT'S A WHOLE DAY THAT WAS CREATED, ESPECIALLY TO FACILITATE THE SUCCESS OF THE SINGLE MOTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, AMAZING.
IF ANY OF YOU HAVE COMPANIES, UM, THAT HAS PRODUCTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DONATE TO GO AND GET THAT IN ORDER TO PROMOTE, UM, YOUR PRODUCTS AND YOUR SERVICES, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT BECAUSE OUR AUDIENCE, THEY NEED EVERYTHING.
THESE ARE MOTHERS OF CHILDREN FROM INFANCY UP THROUGH COLLEGE AGE.
SO WE PROMOTE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH, UM, WE, WE, WE, WE PROMOTE THE COMMUNITY THAT WAY.
UM, THE PACIFIC ASIAN COUNSELING SERVICES LIBRARY, UH, IS INVITING SENIOR AND TO LEARN ABOUT AND INCIDENTS HOW THEY USE THEIR SMARTPHONES REPORT.
THEY HAVE STOPPED EIGHT WORKSHOPS ON FEBRUARY 22ND, MARCH 1ST, MARCH 15TH, MARCH 22ND, MARCH 29TH, AND APRIL 4TH, ALL FROM ONE TO 3:00 PM AT BRETT.
AND ONCE WE HAVE OUR CHOIR INVITATION, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE? UM, LONG BEACH PRIDE IS NOW TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR GROUP AND VENDORS.
UM, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A DIVERSITY IN OUR FESTIVAL.
SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANY VENDORS OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED, UM, THE APPLICATIONS ARE, UH, AVAILABLE ONLINE.
UM, SO LESS OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT, JUST AS A COMMENT, UH, DEEP APPRECIATION TO OUR VICE CHAIR, DR.
SHARIF BATZ FOR CHAIRING TODAY'S MEETING.
I JUST WANNA APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP BEHIND THE SCENES AND, UH, DURING THE MEETING.
AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH, THIS IS, UM, NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS.
UM, I DID WANNA MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.
UH, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY IN HONOR OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOR THE CULTURE FORGOTTEN IMAGES IS GONNA BE AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE CENTER THAT IS AT 43 21 ATLANTIC.
ON FRIDAY IT'LL BE FROM SIX TO 9:00 PM AND ON SATURDAY IT IS FROM 12 TO THREE.
SO, UM, THIS IS RIGHT THERE ON BIXBY KNOWLES AT THE EXPO CENTER, THE AFRICAN AGRICULTURE CENTER.
SO TONY, I CAN SEND YOU THIS, UM, FLYER AND THEN WE CAN SEND IT OUT.
AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE GOING ONCE MM-HMM.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE I, EVERYONE ALRIGHT THEN WE'RE GONNA BEEP.