* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. BRAIN ADVISORY COMMISSION [00:00:01] EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AT EIGHT 30 THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MORNING, MADAM CHAIR. MR. LELAND, COULD YOU PLEASE CONDUCT A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER, CHAIR MURRAY HERE. COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR MC, MC GRAY. I AM HERE. COMMISSIONER MURRAY MARINO HERE. YOU HAVE A FORUM. VERY GOOD NEWS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS DISTRIBUTED OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETING. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM? ALL RIGHT. ALL, UH, THAT'S, UH, ALL IN FAVOR. WE'LL PASS THAT THROUGH, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA. SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, UH, DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE AGENDA. SO MOVED SECOND. A AND LET'S START WITH THAT. AND I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO MR. LELAND TO TALK US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW WE GOT THERE. YEAH. UH, OBVIOUSLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, NUMBER ONE, WE HOP INTO APPROVING THE MINUTES. UH, NUMBER TWO, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE MEETING OF OUR MEETING. UM, UH, WE, WE'LL HAVE ASHLEY JONES. SHE IS THE RELATIVELY NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF, UH, PARTNERS OF PARKS. SHE'S GONNA COME, UH, COME AND INTRODUCE HERSELF TO THE COMMISSION, AND THEN ALSO GIVE A, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION ON, UH, PARTNERS OF PARKS, THEIR MISSION, KIND OF A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND SHE HAS NO PARTICULAR ITEM THAT SHE'S GONNA BRING FORWARD TO US. UH, NOT RIGHT NOW. UH, THERE IS A, UH, BENCH WITHSTANDING. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT NOW. BUT, UH, UH, EVERYTHING'S NOT READY JUST YET. SO WE SHOULD SEE MORE THAN LIKELY AT TRIBUTE BENCH, UH, REQUEST HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, I WOULD IMAGINE. I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT THE, WOULD YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, IF I CAN, THE, UH, THE BENCHES ON THE, THE BRASS BEING TAKEN OFF AND GOING BACK TO A, UH, A CEMENT ENGRAVED, UM, AND FINDING OUT THAT YOU CAN MOVE A CEMENT ENGRAVER TO THOSE BENCHES TO LIKE, NOT TAKE THE BENCHES DOWN. THEY CAN GO AND ENGRAVE AT LOCATIONS. UM, SO IT'S JUST, IT'S SANDBLASTING. YEAH, IT'S A SANDBLASTER. UM, I'M JUST, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO. YEAH. UH, WE BROUGHT UP WHAT THEY HAVE OVER AT, UH, LDO, UH, EL DORADO PARK GOLF COURSE. EVERYTHING'S ENGRAVED SO THEY DON'T TAKE IT AWAY. MM-HMM . UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE ORIGINAL ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW, BUT THE NEW ONES COMING IN TO SAVE THAT BRASS SO IT DOESN'T GET STOLEN. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW, IS, UH, THEY'RE THERE, UH, PARTNERS OF PARKS IS WORKING WITH OUR MARINE MAINTENANCE STAFF TO BRING IN THE NEW NON, UH, NON-METALLIC, UH, PRECIOUS METAL, PRECIOUS METAL, UH, MATERIAL TO, UH, REPLACE WHAT'S BEEN, UH, TAKEN. YEAH. AND THEN I BELIEVE ANY NEW BENCHES THAT ARE CREATED WILL EITHER HAVE A NON PRECIOUS METAL PLATE OR BE ENGRAVED. OKAY. SO WE WILL WE'LL, WE'LL, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT OTHER CITY MONUMENTS HAVE BEEN DOING THINGS TO FIGHT, UH, GRAFFITI AS WELL AS A DISCOURAGED SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FOR SITTING, NOT SLEEPING. YEAH. IT'S, IT IS NOT JUST A, A TIDES, MARINAS OF ISSUE. IT'S CITYWIDE. IT'S ALL OF OURS. BUT I, I THINK THAT IT, IT GIVES US A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM . CITYWIDE. AND I DID NOTICE THE PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS FULL FLEDGED INTO, UM, SELLING JEWELRY VIA PARTIES AND ONLINE. GOOD FOR HER. GOOD FOR HER. I'M A, I'M A HUGE DRINKER FAN, SO I WISH HER NOTHING BUT THE BEST. WELL, FOR EVERYONE, OF COURSE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UM, THAT FIRST AGENDA ITEM? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. UH, TODD, YOU GIVE US UP TO SPEED ON ITEM THREE. YES. THIS IS, UH, OUR ANNUAL, UH, REGATTA WAIVERS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN OUR, UH, UH, CCL SEASON COUNT CITY COUNCIL LETTER SEASON. UH, WE HAVE FOUR COMING TO YOU FOR, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, UH, LITTLE SHIPS LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB, NAVY YACHT CLUB, AND SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB, UH, VIA A RECOMMENDATION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CARLIN, UH, LAST SEASON. UH, INSTEAD OF PUTTING FOUR SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS, WE'RE PUTTING IT ALL ON ONE AGENDA ITEM. AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE, YOU CAN ASK THEM DURING THAT ONE AGENDA ITEM. RIGHT. BUT, UH, JUST TO SAVE TIME AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT, WE'RE, WE'RE BULLET BULLET POINTING EACH ONE UNDER ONE AGENDA ITEM. RIGHT. AND, AND [00:05:01] BRIAN, YOU, DO YOU TRACK HOW MUCH OF THOSE THEY ACTUALLY ARE USING TOO? YEAH. SO LAST YEAR, UM, AND I, I'LL MAKE SURE I PROVIDE THAT DURING THE MEETING, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY HIGHER FEE WAIVER REQUESTS. UM, WE WENT THROUGH AND SAW WHAT WAS ACTUALLY UTILIZED AND WE'RE ABLE TO BRING DOWN THE, UH, FEE WAIVER REQUEST REQUESTS REQUEST TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WAS USED, UH, THIS PAST YEAR. YEAH. I, UM, AND I THINK WE CAN SAY A LOT OF REALLY NICE THINGS IN THE REQUESTS THAT THEY HAVE, BUT IN REALITY, WHAT THEY DID IN REALITY, WHO USED THOSE WHO BENEFITED FROM IT, IS IMPORTANT. I HAVE A COMMENT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, YET YOU GOTTA WAIT . UM, I KNOW OUR, UM, ROWING COMMUNITY IS STILL GONNA EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS. UH, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT. THOSE ARE FEE WAIVERS ON SLIPS AND HOW THAT DIFFERS FROM OTHER FACILITIES AND LIMITED FINITE ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE MARINE STADIUM AND, AND WHERE, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKSTORY, IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT AND MAYBE EVEN PUT IT IN OUR PACKET THAT COMES OUT IN ADVANCE, UM, SO THAT BOTH THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND OUR COMMISSIONERS WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT MORE. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SHIPS UTILIZE THOSE EMPTY SLIPS? I MEAN, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY HOST IT AND WHEN THEY DO IT LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB ON THEIR REGATTA? WHEN THEY DO THAT, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SLIPS THEY'RE REALLY USING? I MEAN, HAVE WE EVER COME BACK AND STATE, HEY, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE WAIVER. YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LIKE THE COUNT FOR THE END TIES OF LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING UTILIZED. UM, I MEAN, THEY COULD BE STACKING A COUPLE BOATS ON THERE. SO I CAN WORK WITH THE YACHT CLUBS LIKE WE HAD DONE LAST YEAR TO KIND OF, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH GOT, IT WAS I WORKED WITH LONG BEACH, I THINK IT WAS LONG BEACH RACE WEEK THAT YOU DID SOME METRICS ON. WE DID, YEAH. I DID THE METRICS OF LIKE, WHO WAS COMING IN FROM LIKE WHAT STATES, LIKE HOW MANY BOATS. GREAT. UM, SO I COULD WORK ON, AND SOME OF THAT WAS DISTORTED THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVEN IF I WORK WITH YOU ON THAT INDIVIDUALLY, THAT, UM, SOME OF THOSE OUT-OF-STATE ONES ARE ACTUALLY CHARTERING VESSELS THAT HAVE SLIPS. OH, SO THESE ARE FOR THE REGATTAS. THESE AREN'T LIKE OPENING, DOES THIS INCLUDE OPENING DAYS TOO? WHEN PEOPLE COME AND THEY USE THE PUBLIC DOCKS AND AGAIN, DOCS, UM, KIND OF THE, THE RECIPROCALS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE LIKE AN OUTLAW REGATTA THAT THEN THE SLIPS ARE PROVIDED FOR OUR LONG BEACH PEOPLE THERE. SO IT'S A GOODWILL. SO PRIMARILY FOR, FOR THE LARGER YACHT CLUBS, WE'LL DO, WE WILL JUST DO REGATTAS FOR THE SMALLER YACHT CLUBS, THE ONES THAT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL BUILDING UP THEIR, THEIR, UH, MEMBERSHIP MM-HMM . UH, WE'LL SUPPORT THEM WITH OPENING DAY, UH, SLIPS TO HELP THEM, UH, GROW AND MAINTAIN THEIR, THEIR MEMBERSHIP. YEAH. I USED TO BE IN NAVY LOT YACHT CLUBS, SO WE WERE ONE OF THE SMALL SMALL, YEAH. AND THE NAVY YACHT CLUB, UH, THE BIG DEAL FOR US IS THE SUPPORTING OUR, OUR, OUR VETERANS. RIGHT. SUPPORTING, SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, VETERAN USE OF THE WATER. UH, MADAM CHAIR, I, I JUST A QUESTION THAT I THINK YOU WOULD KNOW WHEN YOU'RE A PART OF THESE, IS THAT RECIPROCAL TO ALL YACHT CLUBS, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE NAVY, CAN YOU GO TO LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE? DO THEY DO THAT STILL? STILL? IT HAS A DIFFERENT RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AND TRADITIONALLY DON'T RECIPROCATE TO CLUBS THAT ARE WITHIN YOUR SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA. OKAY. OKAY. AND IT BECAME A PROBLEM WITH, UM, AMERICAN OH NO, NEWPORT. 'CAUSE THEY WOULD PAY SUCH A MINIMAL FEE, AND SO THEN SOMETIMES THEY WERE CALLED OUT INDIVIDUALLY AS EVERYONE EXCEPT, YEAH. SO IT'S LIKE THE ELKS, I, I'M AN ELK IN GARDENA AND I CAN GO TO ELKS IN HAWAII. HAWAII IS 10 TIMES MORE TO BE AN ELK IN HAWAII, BUT I CAN GO AND ENJOY ALL THE BENEFITS OF IT. SO IT'S JUST A GOOD POINT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD THING. THANK YOU. UM, I BELIEVE ON THE BROWN ACT, SINCE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, WE NEED TO GO COMPLETELY THROUGH OUR AGENDA BEFORE WE OPEN THINGS UP TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WELL, NO, YOU CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH WELL, EACH ONE. YEAH. EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY ONE AGENDA, UH, ONLY ONE MOTION ON THE FLOOR MM-HMM . AH, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. EXCUSE ME. I WAS JUST LOOKING FROM THE . YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S, I'M ASKING YOU THIS SO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM IS HEARING AND DOESN'T FEEL LIKE I'M SLIDING THEM. IT'S, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA, NOT THIS AGENDA. YES. AND I DO. YES. CORRECT. ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING DO WE PUT LIKE A START DATE AND AN END DATE ON THIS? OR IT'S JUST ALL SEEN? WELL, WELL, THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE, THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY'RE ASKING, THEY'RE CALLING OUT A DIFFERENT GODDESS. THEY'RE SAYING, WE, WE NEED THIS FOR LONG BEACH RACE WEEK, WE NEED THIS FOR CONGRESSIONAL CUP. AND THEN LISTING WHAT TYPES OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING. AND THEN WHEN THEY GO TO, UM, CASH IN THAT MONEY, THEN THEY'VE GOTTA INDIVIDUALLY WORK WITH BRIAN AND MAKE SURE THAT SETS WITHIN THE SPIRIT OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE DESIGNATED. YEAH. AND THEN EACH ONE OF THESE HAS ITS OWN, OWN LETTER, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE EXACT USAGE. WE [00:10:01] WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T PROVIDE, UH, A WAIVER TO SOMEONE THAT SAYS, HEY, I NEED A FEE WAIVER FROM JUNE 1ST TO JUNE 10 OR JUNE 30TH, AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. WE'D SAY, OKAY, WHAT DAY? HOW MANY BOATS? RIGHT, RIGHT. LIKE THAT. SO IT'S VERY, VERY SPECIFIC TO DATES. WE HAVE SOME YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF THAT BRIAN AND HIS STAFF ARE, ARE KICKING AND TICKING THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING AND SEEING THAT THE BOAT'S PHYSICALLY THERE AND CHECKING OFF. YEAH. GREAT. UM, SO YOU'RE GOOD ON WHAT DOCUMENTATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THAT, AND I, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? WE'LL WAIT TILL THE END OF THE AGENDA TO SPEAK ON THE OTHER ITEMS. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR. TODD, TELL US ABOUT THAT. SO, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT WILL BE, UH, COMING TO PRESENT ON A MARINA BOND REFUNDING, UH, WE SOLD MARINA BONDS IN, UH, 2015 TO PAY FOR THE BAY, UH, REBUILD. UM, THAT HAD A CALL DATE OF MAY, 2025 WHERE, UH, UM, THE BONDS COULD BE REFUNDED OR, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FINANCIAL JARGON, BUT BASICALLY GO IN AND, UH, REFINANCE AND POTENTIALLY SAVE MONEY. UH, SO THE CITY'S GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW. UH, I WILL LEAVE IT TO FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT TO REALLY GET INTO THE NUMBERS ON IT. RIGHT. BUT, UH, THE, THE BASIC GIST OF THIS IS BY GOING THROUGH THE REFUNDING NOW, UH, THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE QUITE A GOOD AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, MONEY OVER THE, THE REST OF THE LIFE OF THE BOND, UH, COMMITTEE. AND WHO FROM FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT WILL BE PRESENTING. UH, I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME IT'S GONNA BE THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, KEVIN REPAIR. OKAY. WILL BE, UH, UH, LEADING THE PRESENTATION. BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE, I BELIEVE, UH, HANK KIM CITY TREASURER AND JESSE ORTEGA, UH, TREASURY OFFICER WILL BE THE TENANTS HANK'S LAST NAME. KIM. KIM, THAT'S RIGHT. COOL. AND, UM, WILL THERE BE ANY MATERIAL AVAILABLE IN ADVANCE IN THAT PACKET? YES, WE SHOULD HAVE THEIR PRESENTATION END OF DAY TOMORROW. OKAY. SO THEN WHEN THE PACKETS GO OUT, AND THEN WHEN WILL THAT BE ONLINE? FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC? YES. THAT WILL BE PART, IT'LL BE PART OF THE, UH, ABSOLUTELY. MM-HMM . RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ITEM OR ANYTHING WE WANNA MAKE SURE AND HAVE INCLUDED FOR US TO UNDERSTAND? WELL, IF THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE THEIR PRESENTATION IS VERY, VERY, VERY POSITIVE, AND THEN AT THE END THEY SAY, WELL, AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT OVER THE, THE MONEY'S GONNA GO, THE MONEY WILL GO BACK TO GENERAL FUND. DO WE, ARE WE ABLE TO ADVOCATE OR DO ANYTHING? OR ARE WE JUST KIND OF SIT THERE AND SHOP? UH, IT'S REALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION. DO YOU PROCEED? I WOULD, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT IF WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE'S SOME CONCERNS EXPRESSED THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S THE CAVEAT THAT THE, UM, FUNDS REMAIN WITHIN OUR MARINE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S FOR A LOT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN GETTING BID ON, THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT EVERY MONTH. UH, AND THERE MAY BE A, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE CDCS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE VERSATILE WITH THOSE FUNDS AND BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THEM MORE TOWARDS TIDELANDS. AND WE THEN CAN HEAR THE PUBLIC REVIEW THE DOCUMENTATION AND, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO THE CITY COUNCIL VIA THE LETTERS LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE, OF AN OPINION THAT WE HAVE AS A MAC AS A WHOLE. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE ONCE WE HEAR ALL THE MATERIAL, UM, REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT'S SENT TO US IN ADVANCE, UH, WHERE WE WANNA GO WITH IT. SO A, A PROPER, UM, NEXT STEP WOULD BE, UM, THAT WE'D HAVE A LETTER FROM THE MARINE DEPARTMENT OR TO THE, FROM THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE DISPOSITION OF THOSE FUNDS AND OUR RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING MORE ON THIS MADAM CHAIR, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE FINANCIALS AND WHAT'S GOING FOR, OF COURSE THE OLYMPICS ARE COMING AND THEN, I DUNNO, IF YOU WERE ON INSTAGRAM AND YOU SAW WHAT THEY WANT [00:15:01] TO DO WITH THE, UH, OIL ISLANDS AND MAKING THOSE RESORT, YOU KNOW, LIVING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I HAVE, I HAVE, I SORT OF GIGGLED AT THAT TOO. UM, I, I, I LOOKED AT THAT. THAT WORKS . AND WILL THAT BE UNDER OUR AUSPICE WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS? BECAUSE I WOULD THINK, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD COME THROUGH AT LEAST THE MAC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW IT AND NOT BE ITING ELSE THAT GETS BUILT. UH, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. , SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OIL ISLANDS? YES. I, MY MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THAT PROJECT WOULD BE WE GOT A WAYS TO GO. UH, IT'S JUST THE REMEDIATION OF THOSE ISLANDS, NO DOUBT GONNA BE NO, IT'LL BE DECADES. SO DECADES. SO, UM, AND THE COASTAL COMMISSION, YEAH. RIGHT. AS THAT PROJECT DEVELOPS, IT'S IT WITHIN THE SCOPE AND BOUNDARIES OF THE TIDELANDS AND IT'S WITHIN THE NEAR, NEAR SHORE OCEAN AREA, WHICH IS CITY OF LONG BEACH, WHICH IS BASICALLY UNDER THE PURVIEW OF MARINE SAFETY AND THE MARINE BUREAU PARKS AND REC. SO YEAH, THERE MIGHT BE ELEMENTS OF IT. GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT WOULD BE, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CHARTER AND OUR MISSION, YOU COULD TAKE IT LOOSELY, UH, BUT ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT'S ALSO PART OF OUR MISSION THAT COMES IN IS WE CAN ALSO PERFORM RECOMMENDATIONS OR STUDIES AS DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. SO IF YOU WANNA PROACTIVELY PURSUE THAT, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO NUDGE A CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO ASSIGN US TO DO A STUDY. GOOD CALL. YES, MA'AM. EVERYBODY CALLS AND I GET THESE CALLS AND I DON'T LIVE DOWN HERE. MY MOM DID. I DON'T LIVE DOWN HERE AND I'M GETTING CALLED. DID YOU SEE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO? I SAYS, GUYS, IT'S AN OIL ISLAND. IT'S SOMETHING, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM? ONCE MORE TIPS ON INSTAGRAM IS WHAT IT IS'. AND THEY'RE PUTTING, PUTTING THE LONG-TERM PLAN AND IT'S REALLY PREMATURE. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE FEEL LIKE BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA, FEWER OF ACTIVITY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, LET, LET'S DO IT PROACTIVELY. GREAT. OKAY. AND, AND HAVE A LOOK AT THOSE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE WHEN THE ISLANDS WERE BUILT ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. IS THIS A LITTLE MORE IN RELATION TO THE PD SIX VISIONING OR NO? NO. OH NO. THIS IS A WHOLE SEPARATE OKAY. THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE TIE LENS OF THEM DOING AWAY WITH THE OIL OIL. SURE. UH, THAT THOSE WOULD BE FREED UP. YEAH. UM, AND OH, LOOK WHAT WE COULD DO. AND I'M LIKE GOING, OH, IT'S, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. SURE. BUT IT'S, IT'S A LONG TERM OPPORTUNITY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH ENVIRONMENTAL THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE NEAR TERM, BUT THE AMPHITHEATER THERE AND THEN THE SHUTTLE SERVICE TO BRING YOU TO THE AMPHITHEATER IS WONDERFUL. , I, OKAY. WE SEND THE BANDS ON THE EARLY BARGE AND THEN WE GET THEM SET UP. IT'S, UH, LET'S JUST , YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING, WE'RE ON TAPE. I'M NOT SAYING I'VE LEARNED FROM MY CHAIRWOMAN. WELL, TIME WILL, TIME WILL TELL WITH THAT TIME WILL UP. BUT IT WILL BE, I WOULD IMAGINE WHEN THE TIME DOES COME FOR THAT, THERE WOULD BE A OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT FROM THEM . SURE. WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 2035 AS THE YEAR WHEN, WHEN THEY WERE, WHEN THERE WAS THE LEGISLATION AND MM-HMM . ALL OF THAT. 2035 WAS THE YEAR THAT IT'S LIKE OIL DRILLING SUPPOSED TO STOP. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. YEAH. SO IF YOU, 2035 IS 10 YEARS FROM NOW, AND THEY, WELL, WE NEED TO START, YOU KNOW, MAKING LONG-TERM CONTRACTS WITH HOTELS THAT WANNA BUILD THERE. AND IF YOU LISTEN TO THE GOVERNOR'S PODCAST, WHICH I DO, AND HE A FRIEND, THINGS ARE CHANGING . ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON NO, MA'AM. ON THE ITEM FOUR. UM, AND AGAIN, UM, TODD, IF YOU COULD PLEASE ENCOURAGE THOSE BRIEFING, UM, TO SUPPLY AS MUCH MATERIAL IN ADVANCE AS POSSIBLE. UM, ANYTHING TOO TO DISPEL RUMORS BEFORE THE MEETING. RIGHT. YEAH. DAVE, DON'T BE GOING OUT THERE NOW. AND CAN'T TALK, CAN'T TALK . TONE OF SILENCE PLACE HERE. MR. SIMON. IS THERE ANYTHING UNIQUE OR SPECIAL IN THIS MONTH'S MANAGER REPORTS? UM, WELL, UH, KELLY AND BEACH MAINTENANCE, THEY'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THEIR, UH, THEIR STORM, STORM WEATHER RESPONSE. UH, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB ON THE BEACH FRONT, UH, CLEARING THE FE FEBRUARY STORM RELATED DEBRIS. UM, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO 'EM QUITE YET THIS MORNING. UH, UM, AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS [00:20:01] FROM A COMMISSIONER IN A PREVIOUS REPORT, A CONSISTENCY OF, UM, THE POUNDAGE AND HOW WE'RE COUNTING THAT, WHETHER IT'S, UH, IN, IN DIFFERENT UNITS OF MEASURE. OH, IT WAS, UH, IN REGARD TO THE CITY ANNUAL REPORT VERSUS OUR MONTHLY REPORT. SO, UH, WE'LL, SO IF WE COULD JUST BE CONSISTENT ON THOSE UNITS OF MEASURES SO THAT WE CAN REALLY COMPARE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YEAH. JUST, AND YOU CAN GIVE THAT A QUICK LOOK. THAT WOULD HELP. MADAM CHAIR, I HAD A COUPLE THINGS, AND OF COURSE I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE BUOY LIGHTS AND WHERE WE STAND. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL, UH, UH, TALK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, MY, MY ONE AND RESTROOMS, ARE YOU GONNA ASK ABOUT THOSE AS WELL? YOU KNOW, I WAS, YEAH. I LOVE YOU . UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE BUOY LIGHTS IN. UH, WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE WITH OUR, UM, OUR, IT'S CALLED THE GRUNT, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE, THE VESSEL THAT HAS THE EQUIPMENT TO INSTALL, INSTALL AND DEPLOY, THAT'S STILL BEING WORKED ON. IT'S STILL BEING WORKED ON. AND, AND THAT'S BEEN SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME AND IT'S CAUSED DELAYS IN OTHER SCHEDULES AS WELL. AND IT'S CAUSED OUR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO DO SOME VERY INNOVATIVE WORKAROUNDS. MM-HMM . SO MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER DIVE INTO WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THAT, THAT IT'S TAKEN SO LONG TO GET THAT REPAIR DONE AND YEAH. IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S AN OLD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN VEGAS. YEAH. BUT I THINK IF WE KNEW THEN THAT, THAT SOME PARTS WERE DELAYED AND, UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON YEAH. IS, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THE TREES STILL UP AT VALENTINE'S? YEAH. AND, AND IF WE COULD REALLY SAY, WELL, HEY, IT'S A PARTS ISSUE ON, ON SAFELY, BEING ABLE TO REMOVE THAT. UM, UH, YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, YEAH. I MEAN, I CAN'T GO MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT. . WELL, COULD WE, COULD WE DO A REVIEW AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, IF WE BOUGHT A NEW ONE, WE HAVE A NEW ONE COMING. WE DO. RIGHT. HOPEFULLY APRIL. BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL THIS, SO THEY'RE NOT RE THEY'RE NOT REBUILDING IT. THEY'RE GONNA GET A NEW ONE. SO THE, THE, THE VESSEL IN QUESTION, UH, IT'S, UH, UNDER A QMD, UM, AIR QUALITY, UM, MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND THE ENGINE IS, UH, UH, TIERED OUT. OKAY. SO BASICALLY WE PUT AN ORDER IN FOR A NEW VESSEL TWO YEARS AGO, IF NOT MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER. AND IT'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SO WE'RE HOPING WE'RE GETTING TO THE FINISH LINE. AND OUR NEW VESSEL WILL BE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE. WHERE'S IT BEING BUILT? UH, I'M NOT SURE. ? NO TARIFF. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A TARIFF. NO. WE LOOKED AT, YOU WON'T LOOK IN THE EYE ON THAT ONE. , BUT HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY IT'S HERE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER THAN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE COMMISSION. IS IT ALREADY PAID FOR? SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IFF, IT'S COMING FROM SOMEPLACE? OH, NO, NO, NO. IT'S ALL PAID FOR, BASICALLY, ONCE IT GETS HERE, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE COMMISSIONING PROCESS WITH FLEET, FLEET SERVICES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT ALL THE CITY LOGOS ON IT, GET IT ALL DECKED OUT, UH, AND, AND PUT IT THROUGH, PUT IT THROUGH ITS SPACES. GREAT. AND THEN WE DEPLOY. YEAH. SO I THINK A MORE DETAILED REPORT ON THAT WE'D LIKE, AS PART OF THE ORAL REPORTS ON THE, SO WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS GRUNT? PROBABLY ABOUT, SO 2020 FOOT BY, YOU SEE IT KIND OF UNDER THE BRIDGE THERE. YEAH. 10, 12 FEET. YEAH. 20, 20 BY 10. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S, IT LOOKS, IT IS A BARGE, AFRAME. YEAH. WITH THE, IT LOOKS HALF SUNK THE TIME. SO THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IT HAS FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. YEAH. THE OTHER THING, O OF COURSE, 'CAUSE I COME OUT AND I, I, I SIT AND THEN YES, I DO HAVE A CIGAR ON THE GREEN BELT. I LIKE HAVING A CIGAR ON THE GREEN BELT EVERY NOW AND THEN. UM, JUST, JUST SEEING THE BUS, BUS PEOPLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, HAVING TO PARK AT THE END AND WALK ALL THE WAY UP TO USE THE RESTROOM. AND I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S NOT OUR PLACE TO ASK, MAYBE IT IS, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT LITTLE WHISPER IN AN EAR OF THE CITY COUNCILWOMAN SO THEY CAN FIND OUT. BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S SAD WHEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST ALL WALKING DOWN HERE FOR ONE RESTROOM. UM, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE RESTROOMS WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR, WITHIN THAT AREA OF LOCATION FOR ALL THE RESTROOMS. AND NO ONE CAN USE 'EM. THEY'RE ALL LOCKED. JUST, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. SO WE, I DID, I DON'T WANNA JUMP INTO IT TOO MUCH, BUT I HAD, UM, ERIC OVER HERE CONTACT THE FACILITIES MANAGER OVER THERE, JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE STORY IS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THEY'RE BEING ACCESSED. UM, THE SIGNAGES UP. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE KEY ACCESS, LIKE TENANT USE. SO I THINK, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, TODD SCHOOL, LIKE, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK IN WITH LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SEE KIND OF HOW THAT, HOW THAT CONTRACT'S WRITTEN OF HOW THE, THE, THAT RESTROOM IS SUPPOSED TO BE OFFERED. AND IF THAT, IF A KEY TO ACCESS IS [00:25:01] THE PROPER WAY OR IF IT SHOULD BE DONE IN A DIFFERENT WAY. MOST OF THE TENANTS ARE RESTAURANTS AND THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN FACILITIES WITHIN THE RESTAURANTS. SO THEY DON'T NEED THAT. THE OTHER TENANTS THAT ARE UPSTAIRS HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, FACILITY UPSTAIRS. UH, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUBLIC, A PUBLIC. I UNDERSTAND, TRUST ME. I UNDERSTAND HOW DIRTY THINGS CAN GET WHEN PEOPLE GO IN AND DECIDE THEY'RE GONNA SLEEP IN THERE ALL NIGHT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT, UM, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THEY CAN GET THE RESTAURATEURS, UH, TO ALL PITCH IN TO HAVE PEOPLE GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAN. THEY'LL PAY FOR IT, THEY'LL PAY FOR IT. IT'S JUST, THEY WON'T OPEN IT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING SIDE OF THE REGULAR PUBLIC, NOT LOOKING AT THE HOMELESS OR, OR THE UNSHELTERED, WHATEVER. I'M LOOKING AT THE REGULAR PUBLIC THAT WANT TO GO USE SOMETHING. 'CAUSE THEY JUST GOT OFF A DUFFY BOAT. THEY TRY TO GO INTO A RESTAURANT AND USE IT. YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE RESTAURANTS, IN THE RESTAURANTS OF HOW HORRIFIC THEY ARE WHEN THE PEOPLE GET OFF OF DUFFY AND THEY'VE BEEN DRINKING ALL IT'S, IT'S NOT PLEASANT. YEAH. SO IT, IT JUST, THAT'S JUST, I, I'VE KNOW I'VE SAID IT SINCE I JOINED, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONCERN OF YOURS. YES. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A TOOLBOX OF THINGS THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE IN ORDER TO GET ACTION TAKEN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR TOOLBOX IS WRITING A LETTER. AND WE COULD, YOU COULD, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION DURING THE MEETING THAT WE, UH, ASK PUBLIC WORKS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REVIEW THAT CONTRACT. YES, MA'AM. GOOD. AND THEN THAT WOULD OFFICIALLY COME FROM US. SHOULD IT BE A MOTION AND SHOULD IT PASS? GREAT. THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THAT, THERE WAS FIVE BOATS. UH, ARE THEY NAVY BOATS? REAL LOW OF THE WATER, 50 CALIBER GUNS ON THE BACK. MM-HMM . UM, WHATEVER HAPPENED REGARDING THE CHRIS CRAFT BOATS THAT WERE, DID WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? THAT REMEMBER GOT, WE WORKED WITH THE PARTIES THAT, UH, HAD, UH, VESSEL DAMAGE. YES. AND THEN WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE, THE MILITARY GROUP, WHICH IT, IT TURNED OUT TO BE THE NAVY. UM, AND WE ADVISED EACH INDIVIDUAL FROM THAT, THAT HAD DAMAGE TO PUT IN A CLAIM WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, BASICALLY THERE'S LIKE A CLAIM FORM IS 90 SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WHERE ANYBODY THAT HAS RECEIVED DAMAGE FROM A INCIDENT ACCIDENT, WHATEVER, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT THIS FORM, SUBMIT IT, AND THEN THE PROCESS STARTS FROM THERE. I'LL JUST ASK THIS SILLY QUESTION. UH, WHERE THE, DOES THE NAVY AWARE OF THEIR SPEED LIMITS NOW THAT THEY CAN GO THROUGH OUR, OUR AREA? THEY'RE PRETTY AWARE NOW. THEY, UH, THEY, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES SINCE. RIGHT. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, REMAINS TO BE SEEN SURE. HOW THEY, THEY MOVE FORWARD. UH, WE, WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE FACT THAT WAS IT A, A CRITICAL INCIDENT WAS THE, THE NEED FOR THAT SPEED REQUIRED. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT ENGAGED, I BELIEVE AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION WITH THEM TO, TO SEE. BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT. YOU DIDN'T PUT MY NAME INTO THAT AT ALL. DID YOU? IT WAS UNFORTUNATE TIMING. IT WAS HAVING THE PRODUCT YACHT ASSOCIATION WITH THEIR ANNUAL RENDEZVOUS. UM, YES, DEFINITELY. THE, AND THE SWIM A ROUNDING. REMEMBER THEY HAD THE SWIM AROUND AN NAPLES SWIM. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THINGS. YES, MA'AM. THAT DID MAKE IT A CHALLENGE. THAT'S GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGER'S ORAL UPDATES, UM, WITH THE FEBRUARY STORM RESPONSE? HOW DID OUR BUOYS DO OUT IN THE, AT, AT THE, UH, END OF THE RIVER LA RIVER? OH, THE BOOM. UH, THE BOOMS, UH, THE BOOMS, NOT BUOYS, I'M SORRY. BOOMS UN UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THAT CRITICAL MASS, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, THAT THURSDAY, FRIDAY, YEAH. IT WAS CHANGE. RIGHT. AND SO THE, THE WATER VOLUME THAT COMES DOWN THE LA RIVER COMBINED WITH THE, THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ANY FIXED BOOM SYSTEM TO STAY IN PLACE. SO LA COUNTY'S BOOM DID, UH, DID FAIL, WHICH IN TURN PUT ADDED STRESS ONTO OUR SOUTH SHO, WHICH FAILED DUE TO THE ADDED STRESS THERE. UM, SO THEY WERE BOTH, UH, OUTTA ACTION. UH, LA LA COUNTY, UH, WORKED WITHIN THE WEEK AFTER TO GET THEIRS BACK INTO SERVICE. UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING TO PUT OURS BACK INTO SERVICE JUST DUE TO THE DAMAGE THAT WAS, UH, ONTO OURS. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST FAR THE COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU HAVE THE LA RIVER [00:30:01] MOUTH, RIGHT THERE IS VAST MM-HMM . AND JUST THE WATER VOLUME, ANY, ANY SORT OF BOOM YOU PUT OUT IN PLACE IS GOING TO GONNA HAVE TECHNICAL ISSUES. SO THAT DEBRIS ENDED UP ON OUR BEACHES THEN. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UH, SO WE, WE SAW AN ADDITIONAL 200, 225 TONS OF DEBRIS, UH, ON THE BEACH FRONT AND IN THE WATERWAYS, UH, THAT FOLLOWING WEEK. BUT LIKE I SAID, KELLY AND HIS TEAM, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. UH, THEY, THEY GOT EVERYTHING OFF, OFF THE WATER. THE WATER LINE PILED UP ONTO THE BEACH FRONT. YES. WE HAVE OVER 30, ABOUT 30, UH, DEBRIS PILES. UH, THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING NEW. THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH IT. SO INSTEAD OF LEAVING THE PILES IN PLACE ALL ALONG THE BEACH FRONT, THEY'RE CONSOLIDATING, CONSOLIDATING THEM AT THE BEACH MAINTENANCE FACILITY. THIS DOES TWO THINGS. ONE CLEARS THE BEACHFRONT FASTER, WHICH IS AWESOME. RIGHT. AND THEN TWO, IT ALLOWS THEM TO USE A SHAKER EQUIPMENT AT THE BEACH MAINTENANCE FACILITY, WHICH REMOVES SAND FROM THE DEBRIS. YEAH. SO WE'RE ALLOWING IT TO DRY, WHICH REMOVES WATER WEIGHT AND THAT THEY'RE USING THE SHAKER EQUIPMENT TO REMOVE SAND WEIGHT. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING MORE, UH, FINANCIALLY EFFICIENT IN DOING IT THIS WAY. YEAH. SO IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO, TO MOVE THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS AWAY FROM THE BEACH MAINTENANCE FACILITY. BUT, UH, IT KEEPS PRECIOUS SAND ON THE BEACH FRONT. AND THEN IT ALSO, UH, IS, UH, A FINANCIAL SAVINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF WEIGHT YEAH. THAT WE MOVE TO THE DISPOSAL SITES. 'CAUSE WE PAY BY THE POWER. AND I THINK THAT'S MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WANNA PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THAT'S GOING ON IN THE NEWS RIGHT NOW. AND PEOPLE ARE KEENLY AWARE OF REMOVING THINGS FROM THE WATER. MM-HMM . UH, THE OTHER THING THAT IS ON THE NEWS A LOT IS, UM, IF VARIOUS STAFF MEMBERS FROM CITIES ARE COMMUNICATING WITH BOTH THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND WITH PUBLIC OFFICIALS. SO WHEN WE ANTICIPATE A LOT OF WIND OR A STORM LIKE THIS, WHEN, UM, LIKE BRIAN'S STAFF ARE PROACTIVE AND I KNOW THEY WALK THE DOCKS TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT LINES OUT THERE AND SECURE. AND I KNOW YOU'RE SENDING OUT COMMUNICATIONS ON THAT. YEAH. UH, BRIAN'S, BRIAN'S TEAM, UH, SENT ANYTIME THERE'S LIKE A HIGH, HIGH, HIGH WIND ADVISORY OR A TORRENTIAL STORM APPROACH, WE'LL SEND OUT A EMAIL BLAST TO ALL OF OUR, AND, AND I THINK LET'S, LET'S INCLUDE SOME OF THAT, MAYBE EVEN A SAMPLE IN OUR PACKET THAT SHOWS HOW PROACTIVE WE ARE WHEN WE KNOW THAT WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE GONNA BE THAT'D BE GREAT. NOT SO PERFECT. THAT SHOWS WE ARE, WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT APPROACH AND WE'RE NOTIFYING PEOPLE OF THE OBVIOUS. DO YOU NOTIFY AND I, DOES THE MARINE DEPARTMENT NOTIFY, ESPECIALLY LOOK AT THE WINDS OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW? DOES SOMETHING GO TO THE MAYOR'S STAFF AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? JUST MAKING THEM AWARE, NOT NOT USING ANY OTHER CITY, UH, WHERE THEY, THEY THEY SUPPOSEDLY WASN'T, UH, UM, COMMUNICATED, BUT DO WE COMMUNICATE WITH THINGS OF THAT NATURE RIGHT. TO THE STAFF SO THEY KNOW AND THE CITY COUNCIL? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE COMMUNICATE THROUGH OUR, OUR CHAIN GREAT. THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTAL HIERARCHY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE SEE THAT WE HAVE HIGH WINDS OR IF THERE'S TENTIAL RAIN, OR IF WE HAVE, UH, HIGH, UH, WATER VOLUME COMING DOWN THE LA RIVER, WE'LL COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR. GREAT. AND THEY'LL IN TURN COMMUNICATE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT'S, IT'S THE STANDARD CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT WE FOLLOW. WE DON'T GO DIRECT TO THE MAYOR. WE DON'T GO DIRECT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. RIGHT, RIGHT. ONE OTHER QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR IS JUST THE COLORADO LAGOON WALK PATH BY SIXTH STREET. IS THAT OURS? YES. LIKE THE, THE GR THE THE DG, YEAH. DG PATH. YES. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEIGHBOR, THEY, THEY GOT ME ON NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBOR, OR THEY GOT ME ON THE NEIGHBOR THING. THEY FOUND OUT I WAS A COMMISSIONER. AND, AND NOW THEY SEND ME THINGS DIRECTLY OF, UH, THE MULTIPLE CHILDREN. AND THEY SAID, CHILDREN THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THEIR LITTLE E-BIKES, UH, AND THE LEASES, YOU, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE ON THE WALK PATH E-BIKES AND, YOU KNOW, FUFU AND DOING DONUTS AND DESTROYING, UH, THAT AREA ON THEIR E-BIKES. SO TALKING WITH THE, THE, THE CHIEF, ONE OF THE CHIEFS, I WON'T SAY WHICH ONE, AND THEY SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO A MUNICIPAL CODE. UM, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN BASICALLY DO A MUNICIPAL CODE TO STOP THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED STATEWIDE. BUT IT HAS TO GO TO THE MUNICIPALITIES OR THE CITIES TO IN INFLICT THEIR OWN JUDGMENT OF, YOU GOTTA BE 18, YOU GOTTA BE THIS, YOU GOTTA BE THIS, YOU GOTTA BE THIS. YEAH. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THAT WE COULD DRAFT A LETTER 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE [00:35:01] AND DRAFT A LETTER TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL SAYING, WE NEED ACTION ON THIS. BECAUSE NOW IT'S, NOW IT'S IN A WALK PATH THAT WAS PRISTINE. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS AND NOW YOU'VE GOT THE GROUPS, NOT ONE OR TWO. YOU'VE GOT TEENAGERS ON E-BIKES AND MINIBIKES GOING THROUGH THAT AREA, DESTROYING IT. SO FRIENDS OF THE COLORADO GO SHOULD ALSO LIKE WORK WITH US. RIGHT. PARTNER WITH US ON THAT. AND UH, AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE ORAL REPORT, THEN WE CAN BRING THAT UP AND, AND, AND MAKE A MOTION ON THAT. BUT THAT STILL IN SPIRIT OF THE BROWN ACT ISN'T FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN E-BIKE CONTINGENT THAT WANTS TO, UH, ADVOCATE FOR USING THAT. RIGHT. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FRIENDS OF THE LAGOON. UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO MOVE THAT TO NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA. OKAY. AND THAT WAY WE COULD BRING IT UP, WE COULD BRING IT UP ON THIS AT THE END OF IT. WE COULD BRING IT UP. AND THEN, AND I DID, I TALKED TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND SHE SAID AT THE CLOSE OF EACH OF THEIR MEETINGS, THEY DO A PUBLIC CRY FOR, UM, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC TO, UM, SUGGEST FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. GREAT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT. THEN WE WOULD NOTICE THE PUBLIC PROPERLY AND WE'D HAVE THE PROPER PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTOOD THE QUOTE CODES AND NOT JUST A, A FRIEND DRINKING COFFEE WITH YOU THAT'S OFFERING THEIR OPINION. RIGHT. THAT MAY NOT BE AS FACT-BASED AND MAYBE, RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, UH, UH, THE MARINE MAINTENANCE, IF SOMEBODY'S GOING US, I KNOW THEY PICK UP THE TRASH, I BELIEVE IN THAT AREA. JUST TO LOOK, JUST TO SEE IF ANYTHING'S BEEN, I'M GONNA DO A WALK THERE. SO WE DID, WE DID HAVE SOME DAMAGE, UH, UH, TO, TO SOME RAILING, UH, A MONTH OR TWO OR LIKE, I THINK IN FEBRUARY. BUT THAT WAS, UH, DUE TO SEE TRUCKS MAKING OH, REALLY? REPAIRS TO ELECTRICAL LINES. SO WE'RE OUT THERE, UM, IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S A, A MITIGATION SITE. SO WE'RE, WE HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR OUT THERE DAILY. RIGHT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY. AND THEN, UH, UM, TITLE INFLUENCE IS THE CONSULTANT AND THEY'RE OUT THERE ON A WEEKLY, MONTHLY BASIS. OKAY. JUST LOOKING FOR ELEMENTS THAT ARE DAMAGED TO NEED PREPARED. GREAT. THANK YOU SIR. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE STAFF REPORTS? OKAY. UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING ON COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS. UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT ON THE SURF. UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHERS WE WOULD ANTICIPATE HEARING BACK ON MAINTENANCE IS COLD THAT NIGHT OR? WE'VE ALREADY DONE OURS. WE DID OURS LAST TIME, MA'AM. SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S FINANCE. FINANCE, FINANCE. IS THIS, UH, THIS MONTH? NO. S OH, PUBLIC. YEAH. SO TITLES, CAPITAL PROJECTS. MM-HMM . TITLES, CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND THEN FINANCE. AND WHICH WE, UM, WE WON'T HAVE CHARLENE THIS MONTH BECAUSE SHE'LL BE IN CHICAGO CELEBRATING, UH, ST. PATRICK'S . . THAT'S A WORTHWHILE EVENT. WELL, I ASKED HER TO BENCHMARK HOW THAT WORKS, PUTTING THE GREEN IN THE RIVER, BUT , UH, BUT THAT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT, UH, THE TIDE LENS AND TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE REVIEWING FOR THE 13TH MEETING? ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT INCLUDED OR NOTED OR, UM, I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE STATUS, NOT THE, THE ANNUAL REPORT. MM-HMM . THAT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IT GOES TO CITY WHEN, UH, IT'S DUE MAY 1ST. OH, MAY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. YES. OKAY. SO, AND I AND, AND, AND IT'S FOR FISCAL YEAR OR IT'S FOR RIGHT. 2024. CALENDAR YEAR. CALENDAR YEAR. IT'S IN WORK. AND UH, FOR THE THOUGHTS FROM THE CHAIRMAN, I NEED HELP FROM YOU THERESA. UM, BECAUSE, UM, IN LOOKING AT PAST YEARS AND LOOKING WHAT WE HAVE FROM STAFF, UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE, UH, RECOGNIZED THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT OUR STAFF HAS MADE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE OUR FOCUS TO BE ON. OKAY. AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALWAYS THE FIRST TO ACKNOWLEDGE, SO IF YOU COULD WORK WITH ME ON THAT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN AS OF MAY, AND [00:40:01] IT WAS MAY OF MAY OF 2024, I STOPPED BEING THE FINANCIAL CHAIR PERSON. THAT'S TRUE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TILL JUNE 30TH OR WE'RE GOING TO ON THIS, ON THIS REPORT? ON THIS REPORT. IT'S CALENDAR YEAR 2024. SO YOUR INPUT ALONG WITH THE NEW COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO MAKE THE, WHO IS THE NEW FINANCIAL CHAIR, IF I CAN ASK, IS IT GO, IS IT GORD? I CAN TELL YOU. WILL SHE BE AT OUR MEETING? IS SHE GONNA BE IN MEXICO OR BACK IN TIME? I BELIEVE SHE WILL BE BACK. OKAY. OKAY. SO FINANCIAL UH, COMMITTEE IS COMMISSIONER CAGER YOU OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER SAVALA. OKAY. AND, UH, ARE ONE OPENING FROM COLIN KELLY THAT THE, I UNDERSTAND THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVED THAT NEW AND THAT THAT'S STILL GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE VETTING PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY. SO THAT PERSON COULD BE WITH US THEN NEXT WEEK. YEAH. UH, WELL, NO, NO, PROBABLY NOT. PROBABLY NOT, PROBABLY NOT REALLY. IT'S A PROCESS. HOPING TO SEE HIM IN APRIL. MM-HMM . THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. YEAH. WE CAN ATTEND AS A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THOUGH. SO YEAH. IT'S, IT'S OPEN KNOWLEDGE. IT'S BEEN, IT'S UH, BOB BLAIR. OH IT IS BOB. GOT IT. GOOD. GOOD. ALRIGHT. SO NOW WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS AND THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. AND NOW WE'D LIKE THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. CAN I TALK ABOUT ANYTHING? I CAN DARE ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT YOU MAY ADDRESS. CAN I TALK OTHER STUFF THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? AND THEN ANYTHING THAT YOU SHOULD BRING UP IN ADDITION WILL NOD OUR HEADS AND SMILE, BUT WE WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR RESPOND TO IT. OKAY. WELL LET ME START WITH THE PART THAT YOU'RE JUST GONNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AGAIN. UM, IT'S, IT'S TOO BAD. SERGEANT SMLE IS NOT HERE. 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES, UM, GETTING TOO WITH THE FISHING. FISHING. AND I JUST WANTED TO, I WAS, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOME, THIS IS A SOCIAL BEHAVIOR KIND OF ENVIRONMENT. SOMEBODY WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY WORKING IN PARKS PROBABLY KNOWS SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS ABOUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. SO WE HAD AN EVENT WHERE MOM DROPS OFF HER TEENAGE BOY AND HER, HIS FRIENDS ON GANG ON OVER THERE IN BASIN TOO. AND THEY PROCEED TO GO DOWN ON THE DOCKS AND THEY GO FISHING AND TO THE POINT WHERE, WHERE SOME IN CASTING, THEY'RE JUST BOYS. AND THEY'D GET THEIR HOOKS INTO THE CANVAS AND THEY RIP IT. SO THEY'RE RIPPING THE CANVAS. AND THEN WE HAD A, THIS WEEK WE HAD AN EVENT WHERE ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ON GATEWAY 10, UM, ASKED THE, THE, THE YOUNG BOYS TO LEAD THE DOCK. AND THEY REFUSED OF COURSE. SO HE GOT, HE GOT PHYSICAL, GRABBED THEIR FISHING POLE AND THE, THE YOUNG GENTLEMAN WITH THE FISHING POLE ENDED UP IN THE WATER. AND MY FRIEND WHO IS A LIVERBOARD, ENDED UP WITH A SCAR ON HIS HEAD. SO, AND I THINK, I THINK SERGEANT SMLA HAS, WAS INVOLVED IN THAT TOO, AND ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE MOM IN HER WHITE SUV WHO DROPPED THE KIDS OFF. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET THROWN IN THE WATER BY A DAMN BOAT, YOU'RE GONNA TELL MOM, RIGHT? AND MOM GONNA COME OVER HERE AND TALK TO THE, THE MARINE PATROL, WHICH SHE DID. BUT I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE JUST NEED, IT JUST, IT'S NOT A CRISIS THING. AND, AND IT JUST ONE OF THOSE SOCIAL BEHAVIOR THINGS AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND WE'VE GOT NOW, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE KIDS, A LOT OF THE KIDS ARE NO PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOUR E-BIKES. ALRIGHT, SO I'LL MOVE ON. UM, MR. MR MCG REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO JUST TO TALK TO THAT IS MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BOA IS SPREADING THE WORD TO ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS THAT DON'T PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION OF PHYSICAL OR LEGAL DANGER. UH, AND, AND CREATE A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION OR BECOME ENGULFED IN A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION. THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THESE IS ALWAYS CALL US THE MARINE BUREAU OR CALL 4 2 5 6 7 1. WE WILL OFFICIALLY DEFINE TO MOM AND TOLD HER THAT SHE WAS THE PROBLEM. I MEAN SHE, SHE'S BRINGING HER KIDS AND HER FRIENDS DOWN JUST 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A THING THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR A FOREVER. IT'S JUST FOR JUST A REMINDER. LET'S NOT MAKE THIS A CONVERSATION. RIGHT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION THAT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT. UM, ON THE REGATTA WAIVERS, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT YOU KIND OF USE A MOVING AVERAGE IF YOU COULD DO THAT FOR THE NUMBERS THAT ARE USED. 'CAUSE AS YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING AN EVENT, LIKE MY FAVORITE ONE THAT HAS A LOT OF VARIABILITIES, THE OUTLAW REGATTA. AND DEPENDING UPON THE WIND YOU CAN, EVERYBODY SHOWS UP OR NOBODY SHOWS UP. AND WE'VE HAD BOTH OF THOSE HAPPEN. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE, ONE OUTLAW [00:45:01] EVENT. YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WIND THAT THE FOLKS FROM MARINA DO RIGHT. JUST AREN'T GONNA GET HERE. AND MY CLUB'S GOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE READY FOR, YOU KNOW, 80 PEOPLE TO HAVE DINNER AND, AND, AND EIGHT PEOPLE SHOW UP. MY CREW SHOWS UP 'CAUSE I MOTOR HOME. SO THAT'S IT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, SO JUST WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, IT'S KIND OF A MOVING AVERAGE KIND OF THING. AND AS, YOU KNOW, AS THE FLEETS CHANGE THAT THAT'S KIND OF, ATTENDANCE CAN CHANGE. YEAH. I DON'T, DON'T TAKE, DON'T TAKE ONE, ONE PARTICULAR EVENT IS, IS, UH, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH. UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, UH, THE BOAT OWNERS ARE REALLY SPOOLED UP ABOUT THE MARINA RE REUP, THE RAMINA, THE REFUNDING OF THE MARINA REFUND BO BONDS. AND IT'S NOT THE BONDS PER SE, BUT THE, THE ABSENCE OF THE, THE PROMISE THAT THE MARINA FUNDS WOULD STAY WITHIN THE MARINA ITSELF. AND THAT ONCE WE LOSE THAT, THAT WE, WE SEE OF THE NEXT STEPS AND THE NEXT STEPS AND THE NEXT STEPS. UM, SO WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A VERY MUCH A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. WE WOULD EXPECT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'LL PROBABLY RECOMMEND NEXT THAT WE, THAT THE MAC MAYBE TAKE A POSITION SINCE WE EXPECT THAT THE ONCE THAT, THAT PHRASE OF HOW THE, HOW THE BONDS ARE GONNA GET PAID OFF, WHICH YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THE TIME IS ELIMINATED THAT THE, THE MARINA WOULD FALL WITHIN THE TIDE LANDS GENERALLY, AND THAT THE MARINA FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANY TIDE LANDS PROJECT. AND THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY A POSITIVE FOR THE MARINA ITSELF. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'LL POINT OUT OF COURSE IS THAT SINCE THE MARINA BONDS WERE FUNDED IN 2015, THERE HAS BEEN A SURPLUS AS PROMISED BETWEEN THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENSES AND WILL SHOW THAT THAT TOTAL IS MORE THAN $25 MILLION. AND WE AS ON THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN 23, THERE'S A NET POSITION BALANCE OF $18 MILLION. AND THEN IT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY ASK YOURSELF. SO WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS WITHIN THE MARINA THAT THE MARINA HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH FOR LACK OF FUNDS THAT MARINA HAS GENERATED SO MUCH REVENUE. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS. THAT, THAT, THAT I, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES A POLITICAL STATEMENT. WHY, WHY WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. YOU CAN ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION, I BET YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE ANYWAY. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. AND THEN, THEN LASTLY, ANOTHER THING THAT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IS, UH, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE MOE WEEK. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE PUT ONE OUT THERE THIS YEAR AND IT DISAPPEARED. IT LASTED TWO WEEKS AS THE ENTRANCE BUOY OUT HERE. THEN YOU KNOW, THE NUN WITH THE FUNNY THING ON IT. AND I SAID, WE GIVE UP. DID WE GIVE UP ON DOING THAT ANYMORE? I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN TELL YOU. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO HAPPEN. SO AGAIN, I, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IS WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND THAT THE MAC SUGGESTS THAT WE WE, THAT THE, THE FUNDING, THE REFUNDING CAN BE DONE ANYTIME AFTER MAY 15TH OF THIS YEAR. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DONE IN MAY. IT CAN BE DONE IN DECEMBER. IT CAN BE DONE ANYTIME AFTER MAY 15TH. AND MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE AUDIT IS DONE ON THE TIDELANDS JUST TO FIGURE OUT, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHAT, HOW THE TIDELANDS WHERE THE TIDELAND COMES IN. THEY HAVE A BALANCE OF $108 MILLION IN THAT SAME KIND OF RESERVE ACCOUNT, BY THE WAY. AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE CITY IS DISTRIBUTING THAT. MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE IT, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE, THE MARINA FUNDS COME IN AS CASH EVERY MONTH. BUT I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE CITY HAS AN ACTUAL RESERVE ACCOUNT THAT WE COULD DRAW DOWN THAT ACCOUNT. YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A, A PROMISE TO PAY KIND OF THING. IT COULD BE A LIABILITY OF THE CITY TOO. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU HEAR FROM US, I THINK NEXT WEEK. BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WITH THE FINANCE GUYS AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY ON THIS 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING. AND HOW THE WORDING IS GONNA BE, HOW, HOW THEY'RE GONNA GENERATE MONEY TO PAY OFF THE NEW BONDS. MM-HMM . YEAH. WITHOUT ENTITLING AND WITHOUT GETTING YOUR FINGERPRINTS INTO THE CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MR. BOOKER. ARE ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER WITH THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS? ALL ADJOURNING AT NINE 20. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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