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          SET. 
          ARE YOU ON THAT POLICY COMMITTEE? OKAY. 
          I WANT TO SAY WELCOME, UH, TO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, MEMBERS, STAFF, AMERICAN GOLF, AND OUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. 
          THIS IS THE LONG BEACH GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          IT'S 2 0 1 ON THURSDAY, MARCH 13TH. 
          AND WITH THAT, LILY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CHAIR FITZGERALD. 
          HERE. 
          PRESIDENT VICE CHAIR CRONK KINGS. 
          HERE. 
          MEMBER ELEE. 
          ABSENT. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON. 
          HERE. 
          MEMBER BARRETT. 
          HERE. 
          MEMBER DMITRI U. 
          HERE. 
          MEMBER MILLER. 
          ABSENT. 
          MEMBER RICCI. 
          HERE. 
          MEMBER YOUNG. 
          HERE. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE HAVE TWO EXCUSED ABSENCES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE MEMBER ILEY AND MEMBER MEIER EXCUSED. 
          AND ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA AND START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, 2024. 
          AND WITH THAT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          MINUTES SECOND. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE, UH, MOTION FROM MEMBER CONING AND A SECOND FROM ANDERSON ANDERSON. 
          AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM FROM MEMBERS? OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 
          ARE WE SORRY, WE THE VOTE INDIVIDUALLY. 
          CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          VICE CHAIR CRONK KINGS. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON? YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER DIMITRI U. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER RICCI. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG. 
          YES. 
          MR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATIONS ORAL UPDATES. 
          AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? A MOTION TO OPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE A, A MOTION FROM, UH, MEMBER YOUNG AND A SECOND FROM MEMBER RICHIE. 
          AND FOR WE MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          I SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MEMBER I, OKAY. 
          UM, HAVE GOT KIND OF A HODGEPODGE TODAY. 
          UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS, UH, THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU WHO SUBMITTED YOUR REFORM 700. 
          UM, THIS IS THE STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO, UM, FILE ANNUALLY. 
          UH, I DO HAVE A FEW MEMBERS WHO HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THEIRS YET, SO PLEASE REACH OUT IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANY ASSISTANCE WITH THAT WE CAN HELP OR PEOPLE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE CAN HELP. 
          SO, UM, UH, AND I, I'VE, I'VE DONE SOME DIGGING AND FOUND SOME FAQS THAT I'VE FOUND TO BE REALLY HELPFUL ABOUT THE FORM. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA SEND THAT TO ALL OF YOU AS WELL, JUST FOR YOUR OWN, UM, KNOWLEDGE. 
          'CAUSE I LEARNED SOME THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE BY LOOKING THROUGH THEM. 
          SO, UM, INCLUDING THAT YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE REPORTED. 
          AND LIKE THINGS LIKE 4 0 1 KS AND DIVERSIFIED MUTUAL FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE REPORTED. 
          SO WELCOME. 
          HELLO. 
          SORRY FOR LIGHT. 
          SO, AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP, UH, INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T FILED THEIRS YET. 
          AND JUST TO, JUST TO SEE IF ANYBODY NEEDS ASSISTANCE WITH THAT. 
          UM, THE GOLF HALL OF FAME, UH, WE'VE BEEN CALLING FOR NOMINATIONS. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN, I THINK THE MOST I'VE EVER SEEN SUBMITTED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST. 
          THERE'S A BIG PUSH FOR A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL THIS YEAR. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S EXCITING. 
          UH, NOMINATIONS ARE STILL OPEN THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          UM, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT. 
          AND, UH, I'M WORKING ON SCHEDULING OUR, UM, HALL OF FAME COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR APRIL, HOPEFULLY. 
          SO, UM, SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THAT ON, ON THAT FOR YOU. 
          UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, UH, AND THEN JUST KIND OF ONTO LIKE REGULAR BUSINESS. 
          UM, GARY AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME OF THE CIP ITEMS. I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING YOU ALL APPROVED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST FOR THE YEAR, UM, THAT WENT TO THE DIRECTOR WHO ALSO APPROVED IT. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, SOME OF THOSE NEW PROJECTS. 
          UH, WE WERE GETTING THE HEARTWELL BUNKERS AND THE TREE REMOVALS AND THE WRECK 18 COURSE, UM, AND DRIVING RANGE LIGHTING APPROVED RIGHT NOW TO GET THOSE STARTED. 
          UM, AND WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF REIMBURSEMENTS WE'VE CLOSED OUT. 
          WE'RE CLOSING OUT 2023 PROJECTS WITH OUR FINAL, UM, REIMBURSEMENT FROM THAT YEAR AND WORKING THROUGH SUMMER OF 2024. 
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THANK YOU, GARY. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE IN PROGRESS. 
          UM, AND, UH, ONE FINAL UPDATE FROM ME ON THE, AND I DON'T THINK I'VE PROVIDED AN UPDATE FOR A WHILE, I APOLOGIZE. 
          BUT ON THE, UM, SMOKING BAN THAT WAS, UM, BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, A WHILE BACK, UM, I'VE GOTTEN CLARIFICATION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND SO THERE IS, THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW, UM, IT WILL BE PRESENTED AS A TFF MEMO, UM, FROM, UH, THE CITY MANAGER TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND, UM, SO THAT REQUEST WILL, UH, GO TO THEM TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. 
          SO I'M WORKING ON THAT ACTION RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, AS THAT MOVES THROUGH OUR PROCESS. 
          SO LORI, YES. 
          I GUESS THAT'S BEFORE I GOT THERE, BUT WHAT IS THE SMOKING, UH, VAN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, THE, UM, LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE BE CHANGED TO, UH, NOT ALLOW SMOKING IN THE DRIVING RANGE AREAS AND THE, UM, LIKE PUTTING GREENS LIKE THERE, THE PRACTICE AREAS BASICALLY WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, BECAUSE CURRENTLY, UM, THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS THERE. 
          SO, UH, THIS COMMITTEE REQUESTED THAT, THAT BE LOOKED AT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NOT PLAYING GOLF, YOU CAN, I THINK THAT, UH, CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          SO IF, IF YOU DO SMOKE, YOU CAN BE ON THE DR ON THE AIRWAY AND ALL THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THROUGH HOLES ONE THROUGH 18, BASICALLY A MIRRORING OF WHAT YOU SEE, LIKE, UM, LOS ANGELES COURSES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE? YEAH, I MISSED THAT. 
          ARE YOU GONNA BEEN BOOKING ON PUTTING GREENS AND DRIVING RANGE? YES. 
          WELL THAT I, I AM NOT GOING TO, WE, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE WAS THAT, UM, WAS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THAT. 
          HOW ABOUT ON THE GOLF COURSE? NO, NO, NO. 
          NO RESTRICTIONS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT THE REQUEST. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO THAT INCLUDE THE PATIO AREAS TOO? YES. 
          YES. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF SMOKE GOING, PATIOS, YOU KNOW, DRIVER RANGES OR JUNIOR GOLF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          PRACTICE GREENS, CHIPPING GREENS, PRACTICE FUN. 
          AS LONG AS YOU'RE PLAYING GOLF, YOU'RE FINE. 
          YOU SAID DRIVING RANGE FOR JUNIORS PART? WELL THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM WITH SMOKERS AND JUNIORS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL HOW ABOUT THE DRIVING RANGE AT THE SKY LAKES? ALL FIVE OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE ASLEEP. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE QUESTION, WHAT WAS TFF? UH, I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S CALLED, UH, TWO FROM FOUR MEMO. 
          IT, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UM, UH, SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT LIKE COME TO AND FROM COUNCIL? UM, AGAIN, I, THERE'S A, THEY'RE ALL ONLINE. 
          UM, I'M PROBABLY AVAILABLE. 
          I CAN SEND YOU GUYS THE, THE, UM, WEBSITE WHERE THOSE ARE ALL LOCATED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FORM 700 HAS BEEN SIMPLIFIED AND THAT CLARIFICATION IS USEFUL. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW I FIRST SPENT, UH, SOME TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT ALL WAS REQUIRED. 
          IT COULD BE VERY SIMPLE OR VERY COMPLICATED FOR SOME I WOULD THINK SO. 
          I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO, THAT'S GREAT. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'S GONNA GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL? NOT YET. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE YEAR INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK IT WAS THE MAY MEETING OF LAST YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN TO GET THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, WE HAD A, A MOTION IN A SECOND, SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THEN UM, I THINK WE'RE READY TO YES. 
          TAKE THE ROLE. 
          CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          VICE CHAIR INGS? YES. 
          MEMBER ELY. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER DIMITRI. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER RICCI. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES ON COURSES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS. AND WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION TO OPEN ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION CONING SECOND YOUNG. 
          AND, UH, WITH THAT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, MANY THANKS. 
          UM, AND WELL, I GUESS WE WILL NOW HAND IT OVER TO GARY. 
          TAKE IT AWAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO WE CAN START, START WITH THE, THE BIGGEST COURSE UPDATE THAT NOBODY LIKES TO HEAR. 
          UH, WE'RE VERIFYING ALL THE GREENS ON MONDAY THE 17TH. 
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UM, AT THIS TIME WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE NOTIFICATION UP ON THE NEW WEBSITE. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE SAYING IT'S POSTED, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING IT. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA START CALLING ALL THE TSHEETS AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT. 
          UM, BUT WE DO THAT ON THE 17TH FOR ALL THE COURSES EXCEPT FOR HARTWELL. 
          HARTWELL FOLLOWED BY, I THINK THEY'RE ON THE 24TH. 
          UM, BUT WE'LL DO ALL THE GREENS AND GET THAT DONE SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO APRIL, THERE'S NO MORE RAIN AND THERE'S, UH, NO MORE HOLES IN THE DRAINS. 
          UM, FOR, UH, AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP AT REC NINE FOR THE DRAINAGE, UM, WE'VE TALKED TO THE COLORADO LAGOON. 
          THEY HAVE FIXED THE AREA ON THEIR SIDE THAT WAS CLOGGED AND THEN WE CLEANED OUT THE LITTLE DEBRIS AND STUFF THAT WAS ON OUR ROCK PATH TO IT. 
          UM, SO I SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATE AFTER THE RAINS LAST NIGHT TO SEE HOW IT WENT. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, BUT THAT WAS ALL FIXED. 
          APPARENTLY IT WAS ALREADY IN MOTION AND UH, THE LAGOON JUST DIDN'T TELL US ABOUT IT. 
          UM, BUT THAT WAS ALL FIXED. 
          UM, ON THE PRIVATE EVENTS SIDE, WE'RE ON TRACK THIS YEAR TO HIT $3 MILLION AS A TOTAL IN LONG BEACH FOR PRIVATE EVENTS, UM, WHICH IS A HUGE SUCCESS, MAKING A COMEBACK FINALLY FROM WHERE WE WERE PRE COVID. 
          UM, SO THAT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF THAT PICKING BACK UP AND, AND BECOMING A FULL SWING. 
          UM, AND WE ALL HAD OUR WEDDING SHOW OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKENDS. 
          UM, WE DECKED OUT THE FACILITIES FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WE COULD DO, BASICALLY FOR YOUR EVENT OR YOUR WEDDING OR QUINCEANERA RETIREMENT PARTY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          UM, SO FAR WE'VE SOLD OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EVENTS JUST IN THE, IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS ALONE. 
          UM, SO ANOTHER GREAT SUCCESS THERE IN LONG BEACH. 
          UM, OVERALL THE COURSES ARE IN GREAT SHAPE. 
          OBVIOUSLY THIS RAIN'S GONNA HURT, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS OUTSIDE OF PLAY, WHICH BUNKERS AND LAKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          TREE BRANCHES AND, AND WE WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. 
          I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY RAIN SCHEDULED NEXT WEEKEND TOO. 
          UM, BUT WE'LL SEE IF THAT ACTUALLY COMES TO FRUITION. 
          BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA BE PLAYING CLEANUP OBVIOUSLY FROM THE RAINS AND GRASS IS STARTING TO GROW FASTER AS IT HEATS UP ON THE DAYS WHERE IT'S NOT RAINING. 
          SO, UM, MOWING WILL BE MORE FREQUENT AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY IF ANYTHING COMES UP, JUST LEMME KNOW. 
          UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          LIKE LORI SAID, WE'VE GOT 2023 COMPLETELY CLEANED UP. 
          UM, 2024. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE PROJECTS ALREADY REIMBURSED. 
          UM, AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE, UM, AS WE, AS THEY THE CHECKS CLEARED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THE BIG ONES THAT HAVE COME UP THIS YEAR, UM, UH, IS THE BUNKERS OF REC AT, UM, HARTWELL BUNKERS AND TEES. 
          UM, WE'VE SENT THAT SUB TO SUBMITTAL ALONG WITH THE DRIVING RANGE AND LIGHTS ON HOLES ONE, TWO AND THREE AT WRECKAGE FEET. 
          UM, FOR POINT OF REFERENCE ON THE LIGHTS, WE HAD A HUNDRED AND LIKE $8,000 EARMARKED FOR EL DORADO THAT WE MOVED FROM EL DORADO TO REC PARK BECAUSE EL DORADO'S NEVER HAD LIGHTS AND IT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE TO ADD NEW ONES. 
          UM, SO WE MOVED IT TO REC 18, FIXING THE LIGHTS ON THE FIRST THREE HOLES THAT WERE NOT WORKING ANYMORE. 
          WE'RE UPGRADING 'EM TO LED. 
          UM, AND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON THOSE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT 12 MONTHS IS OUR GUESS. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TEE OFF OVER THE WINTER DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. 
          AND, UH, THE EMAIL THAT CAME OUT FROM SCGA THE OTHER DAY. 
          UM, BUT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THAT IS PLAY IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          PLAY IN THE MORNING CAN JUST PICK UP. 
          SO, UH, THOSE TWO ARE GOOD. 
          WE HAD AN UPDATE UNFORTUNATELY ON MONDAY. 
          WE HAD $145,000 EARMARKED FOR THE PARKING LOT. 
          UM, WE ADDED THE PARKING LOT ACROSS FROM SKY LINKS TO GET THAT ONE REDONE. 
          THERE'S A BUNCH OF HOLES IN IT THAT WE HAVE TO FIX. 
          AND, UM, WE ADDED THE FULL DRIVEWAY AT REC 18. 
          THE FULL RE SLURRY OF REC NINE, INCLUDING THE SIDEWALK FOR THE, UH, THERE'S A PUBLIC BUILDING RIGHT THERE, SO WE'RE GONNA DO THEIR SIDEWALK TOO SO THAT IT ALL MATCHES. 
          AND THEN PARKING LOT AT HARWELL IS A FULL NEW OVERLAY. 
          SO THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER THE LAST, WE WENT THROUGH THIS LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO AND IT JUST KIND OF FELL THROUGH. 
          UM, BUT THAT QUOTE OF $145,000 WAS $345,000 THAT I GOT ON MONDAY. 
          UM, WAS A LOW BID. 
          THE OTHER ONE WAS LIKE THREE 90 AND I'M JUST WAITING ON THE THIRD QUOTE. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE CHUNK OF CHANGE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S REALLY GONNA ENHANCE THE PROPERTIES. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH RAISED CONCRETE AROUND SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE TO BE CUT OUT AND REPLACED. 
          THERE'S SINK HOLES THAT HAVE TO BE CUT OUT AND REPLACED AND IT JUST ADDS TO THE PROJECT. 
          BUT INSTEAD OF RUNNING THROUGH HOLES AND OVER TREE, TREE WELLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ALL OF IT'S COMING OUT AND ALL OF IT'S GETTING FIXED. 
          THERE'S A HUGE AREA IN THE FRONT OF REC NINE, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE TREE RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, THE SIDEWALK IS NINE INCHES ABOVE THE CURB. 
          SO WE'RE, WE HAVE TO RIP ALL THAT OUT AND REDO IT. 
          UM, AND THEN UPDATING OBVIOUSLY THE HANDICAP SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE JUST A STANDARD THAT YOU GO THROUGH. 
          SO THAT PROJECT'S GONNA 
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BE BIG, UH, A LOT BIGGER THAN WE EXPECTED. 
          UM, WE'VE STILL GOT MONEY LEFT OVER OBVIOUSLY FROM 2024. 
          UM, SO IT'S STILL LEAVE ROOM TO DO THE ENTRY WALL AT EL DORADO, THE TEES AND, AND BUNKERS AT SKY LINKS, WHICH WE MAY ACTUALLY REMOVE THE BUNKERS JUST TO SAVE SOME MONEY. 
          AND THE TREE REMOVALS BETWEEN THOSE FIVE PROJECTS, IT'S GONNA KEEP US PRETTY BUSY FOR THE YEAR. 
          AND UM, I'LL HAVE AN UPDATED NUMBER ON WHERE WE STAND AFTER THOSE BIDS ALL COME IN. 
          UM, AND THAT'S THE MAIN PART OF THE UPDATE. 
          DO YOU THINK THEY'LL GET THE PARKING LOTS WILL GET DONE THIS YEAR? AS SOON AS I HAVE THE THIRD BID I'M GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM AND MAKE SURE THEIR APPLES TO APPLES AND AS SOON AS WE GET IT SIGNED BY THE CITY, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO PUT SOME OTHER LITTLE PROJECTS ON. 
          DELAY THAT. 
          YEAH, THAT UH, THANKS. 
          WE DON'T, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF SOMETHING COMES UP IN OUR EMERGENCY THIS YEAR WE CAN HANDLE IT. 
          I NOTICED THE DRIVING RANGE FENCE AT UH, EL DORADO ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS BLOWING THE WIND. 
          A LOT OF IT WE HAD THAT REPLACED LAST YEAR, SO OKAY. 
          RANGE. 
          I'LL CHECK THAT ONE OUT. 
          DID WE LOSE ANY TREES LAST NIGHT? WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DOWN TREES. 
          JUST SOME BRANCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THE DEAD TREES, I DIDN'T BRING, ONE OF THE QUOTES MISSED WITH ME. 
          THE DEAD TREES PROJECT CAME OUT TO ABOUT 80, I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE 88,000. 
          WOW. 
          IT'S 37 TREES I THINK ARE COMING OUT. 
          UM, SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY LARGE, SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY OLD AND VERY DEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THEN, BUT I MEAN IT'S ALL FOR SAFETY. 
          UM, WE HAD AN ACCIDENT BEHIND THE RESTAURANT AT SKY LENGTH WHERE ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES SLIPPED BECAUSE THE LEAVES FELL. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO REMOVE THREE TREES BEHIND OUR, OUR CAFE. 
          UM, SO IT'S REALLY JUST, JUST ABOUT REMOVING IT FOR SAFETY. 
          AND THERE'S THAT GIANT EUCALYPTUS AT REC 18. 
          SO SOME OF THESE TREES ARE, I THINK THE ONE AT REC NINE IN FRONT OF THE CLUBHOUSE WAS ON THAT LIST TOO. 
          'CAUSE THAT DROPPED TWO BIG BRANCHES THIS YEAR. 
          THAT CAN CAUSE A LOT OF DAMAGE AND A LOT OF INJURIES IF WE KEEP HAVING THOSE. 
          SO, UM, I'LL HAVE THAT TO LORI HOPEFULLY SOON. 
          WHICH, WHICH PART OF THAT WOULD BE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS VERSUS SORT OF ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AS FAR AS TREE MANAGEMENT? ROUTINE MAINTENANCE IS TRIMMING AND JUST ANNUAL MAINTENANCE. 
          THIS IS REMOVAL FOR EMERGENCY, LITTLE BRANCHING, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT ABOUT THE CROSSWALKS AT SKY LINKS? IS THAT OUTSIDE THE REALM OF CIP? NO, SO WE CAME TOGETHER AS A COMMITTEE TO SUBMIT THAT. 
          I GOT ALL THREE QUOTES. 
          IT WAS 200 AND $208,000. 
          I HAVE IT EARMARKED IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, OUR LAWYERS HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE DECISION. 
          IF WE DO THAT NOW, WILL IT AFFECT THE CASE? 'CAUSE IT CAN'T AFFECT THE INJURY. 
          THE INJURY'S ALREADY HAPPENED. 
          THE DOWNSIDE TO THIS WHOLE THING IS THE UBER DRIVER OR LYFT DRIVER HIT SOMEBODY IN THE CROSSWALK IN THE GOLF CART. 
          THEY'RE BLAMING THE CROSSWALK AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO PUT THE CROSSWALK IN AND WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS, BUT, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          THE PERSON THAT WAS HIT HAS ALREADY PAID HIS MAXIMUM CLAIM TO THE DRIVER AND THEY'VE ALREADY CITED THAT THE DRIVER WAS AT FAULT. 
          SO THE DRIVER PAID FOR ALL OF OUR STUFF, BUT THEN COUNTERSUED EVERYBODY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS. 
          I'VE ALREADY PAID PROBABLY $40,000 IN LEGAL FEES THAT SO STUPID JUST TO, JUST TO FIGHT IT. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE UPDATE OTHER THAN THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER THAN ITS PAIN IN THE NECK. 
          BUT WHAT YOU TRYING TO DO TO THE CROSSWALKS, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT IN. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD IT AT EACH, AT EACH CROSS IN THE MIDDLE OF, WE CALL IT THE TURN LANE, THERE WOULD BE A CONCRETE ISLAND THAT WOULD HAVE THE YELLOW, UH, PADS FOR SOMEBODY WALKING THAT WAS POTENTIALLY BLIND IF THEY WERE WALKING THE STREET. 
          AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A CENTER POST WHERE THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL LIGHT THAT IF YOU PUSH IT, BLINKING LIGHTS COME UP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND THE CENTER. 
          AND THEN ON EACH END OBVIOUSLY UPDATE THE STOP SIGNS AND THEN THEY WOULD BE BLINKING LIGHTS. 
          SO YOU PUSH THE BUTTON ACROSS THE LIGHTS COME ON AND YOU GO, THAT WOULD BE AT BOTH SIDES. 
          AND, BUT WE HAVE PER, PER THE CITY, YOU HAD TO PUT THE ISLANDS IN THE MIDDLE IN CASE YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT ACROSS. 
          YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ISLAND FOR PROTECTION. 
          SO THAT ADDED A GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE TO IT. 
          SO IT'S WELL WORTHWHILE DOING. 
          IT'S WORTH IT. 
          WELL WORTHWHILE. 
          LIKE I SAID, THE LAWYERS SEEMS TO THINK DOING IT ISN'T GONNA CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF WHATEVER ALL THIS MAY BE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LEGAL TEAM AND OUR LAWYERS ARE ON THE SAME CONSENSUS THAT WE COULD DO IT. 
          AND THEN I'LL SUBMIT EVERYTHING TO LORI. 
          SO I'M JUST WAITING. 
          MM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'LL SEE HOW I CAN GET A, AN UPDATE FROM THAT ONE. 
          EVERY TIME I ASK HIM A QUESTION, IT'S LIKE FIVE 10 BUCKS OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT I'LL, I'LL SHOOT HIM AN EMAIL AND SEE IF ELISE HAS IT WITH LAWYER BILLINGS. 
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WELL AT LEAST YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL WOMAN'S ON OUR SIDE. 
          EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY'S FOR IT. 
          WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE LEGALLY WE CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING. 
          SO, I MEAN, THE PLANS ARE ALREADY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND ALL THAT. 
          SO THERE'S SOME LIGHTS OUT AT HARTWELL. 
          IS THAT A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT FROM THE COURSE? YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME THIS WEEK. 
          IT WAS TOO WET. 
          UM, BUT WE LOST THE WHOLE STRING OF LIGHTS, SO THEY HAVE TO INVESTIGATE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, YEAH, IT'S LIKE, WHAT WAS IT, 12, 13, 15? THEY WERE ON THE FRONT THEY FRONT THAT I WAS AWARE OF. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WAS LIKE, IT'S LIKE FOUR POLES IN A ROW BECAUSE IT'S THE ONE THAT THE KIDS PLAY IN THE YEAH, IT'S LIKE FOUR IN A ROW. 
          THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE TO CHECK IT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          I TOLD 'EM IT'S EITHER GOTTA BE A BOX UNDERGROUND, THEY GOT FLOODED LAST TIME EXACTLY. 
          OR SOMETHING. 
          SO THEY GOTTA WAIT TILL IT DRIES OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A USUAL QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, RESTROOMS THAT ON THE COURSES. 
          ANY THOUGHTS OF UPGRADES OR MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT FLOODED OR LEAKING OR SMELLY OR, AND HAVE TOWELS AND SOAP? WELL, WE MAINTAIN 'EM, THE LEVEL OF STANDARD IS MAINTAINING 'EM TWICE A DAY, ONCE IN THE MORNING BY THE MAINTENANCE CREW. 
          AND THEN OUR STAFF THAT'S ON SITE EVERY DAY MAINTAINS 'EM THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          UM, ON COURSE RESTROOMS AND SNACK BAR, EL DORADO, WE HAVE A PLAN TO REDO THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, RECREATION PARK, THEY'RE MAINLY, THEY'RE CONCRETE WALLS. 
          THEY'RE DECENT AND FLOORS. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SKY LINKS WAS REDONE IN 20, WHAT YEAR IS THIS? SO THEY WERE LIKE 20, 20 18, 20 17. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. 
          JUST SOME OF 'EM JUST GET BOMBARDED BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T USE THE COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT I'LL TAKE A FULL LOOK AT 'EM AND I KNOW WE DID SOME UPGRADES AT HARTWELL LAST YEAR. 
          UM, SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT 'EM AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          DO LIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH LAKEWOOD? I DO NOT. 
          NO. 
          THAT'S ACROSS THE POND AS WE CALL IT. 
          OKAY. 
          S LA COUNTY. 
          I JUST LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE PERSON WHO CLEANS THE ONES AT LITTLE REC. 
          'CAUSE FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WHOEVER THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD. 
          GOOD. 
          I'LL LET ALBERTO KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          ARE THERE ANY PLANS OR PROPOSALS TO PUT A, A NEW FENCE OR BLOCK WALL AROUND THE MAINTENANCE YARD? ALL AROUND? I, THEY CLEAN. 
          SO TO REPLACE THE FENCE AND EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO DO IT SO THAT THE HOMELESS ARE CUTTING INTO IT, YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT NEEDS TO 12 TO 15 FOOT BLOCK WALL. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY $350,000. 
          TOUGH. 
          THE FIRST STEP WE'RE GONNA TAKE IS WE'VE UPGRADED OUR ENTIRE, UM, ALARM SYSTEM TO RING FROM A-D-T-A-D-T IS HORRIBLE AND OVERPRICED. 
          UM, AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE THREE HUBS PURCHASED AND INSTALLED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS SO THAT WE CAN PAY FOR PROFESSIONAL MONITORING THROUGH RING. 
          AND THEY ARE MUCH MORE ALERT. 
          THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE VIDEO. 
          THEY MONITOR IT FOR US. 
          IF SOMEBODY'S THERE OUTSIDE OF THE HOURS, THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE POLICE. 
          SO WE'RE UPGRADING OUR SECURITY SYSTEM ON THEIR FIRST AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT STEP FIRST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN NEXT STEP WOULD BE REPAIRING THE FENCE THAT'S THERE. 
          UM, AND THERE IS, UM, ONE BUILDING THERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING THAT'S ON THE CIP LIST THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE, THE SECURITY OVER THERE AS WELL. 
          WHERE IS THAT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAIN YARD, COLORADO. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S A COLORADO FREEWAY WALL FENCE. 
          GONNA YEAH, THEY JUST CUT IT. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW RIGHT NOW THERE'S A BIG HOLE. 
          IT'S LIKE FIVE FEET HE'S TALKING ABOUT AND WE CONTINUE AND THEY COME IN AND STEAL THE OLD OIL AND WHATEVER. 
          STEAL YEAH. 
          THAT'S DON'T FUEL IN A WHILE. 
          WE'VE GOT THAT ONE FIGURED OUT. 
          BUT, UH, THEY USE THE RESTAURANT. 
          THEY, WE, THEY STOLE QUITE A BIT. 
          WHAT WAS THAT? TWO YEARS AGO? THEY WERE SIPHONING FUEL FROM OUR FUEL TANKS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND STEALING HUNDREDS OF GALLONS OF FUEL EVERY NIGHT. 
          THAT'S BEEN A WHILE. 
          KNOCK ON WOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          MANY THANKS. 
          ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FOR GARY MEMBERS? OKAY. 
          WITH THAT, I THINK, UM, WE'RE READY TO, FOR THE ROLL CALL VOTE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          VICE CHAIR INGS? YES. 
          MEMBER ELY. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT? YES. 
          MEMBER BENJAMIN TREE? YES. 
          MEMBER ER? YES. 
          MEMBER RICCI? YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS CARRIE. 
          AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND IF APPROPRIATE, RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE PROPOSED GOLF FEES AND CHARGES 
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SCHEDULED FOR 20 25 20 26. 
          AS ENDORSED BY THE FEES AND CHARGES AD HOC COMMITTEE. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? SO MOVE MOTION FROM RICHIE, SECOND. 
          SECOND FROM MIL. 
          AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WITH THAT, UM, LORI, DO YOU WANNA START AND THEN I CAN JUMP IN WITH WHAT HAPPENED. 
          I KNOW THIS IS A NEW STRUCTURE FOR US WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEES AS OPPOSED TO THE STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          SO WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS, UM, WHO ARE NEW TO THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, SO, UH, IN THE, SORRY, LET ME BACK UP. 
          YOU ALL HAVE SORT OF A SHEET OF SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WASN'T IN YOUR PACKETS, BUT IT'LL BE ADDED TO THE, UM, ATTACHMENTS, UM, WHEN WE FINALIZE THEM. 
          UM, JUST FOR YOUR BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE, UM, UH, AMERICAN GOLF IS ALLOWED TO ONCE A YEAR INCREASE THEIR FEES, UM, BY THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ROUNDED DOWN TO THE NEAREST QUARTER. 
          UM, SO THAT'S CONSIDERED AN AUTOMATIC INCREASE THAT THEY ARE, UM, ABLE TO TAKE. 
          UM, THEY ALSO CAN REQUEST, UM, INCREASES THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. 
          UM, THOSE GENERALLY PASS THROUGH THE, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THEN COME TO THIS, UM, LARGER COMMITTEE. 
          AND THEN THIS COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION AND MARINE WHO THEN MAKES HIS RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY MANAGER. 
          UM, SO THIS YEAR, UM, AND WELL YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS, BUT UH, UH, THE REQUESTS ARE ALL WITHIN CPI THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO IT IS WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN AUTOMATIC INCREASE. 
          UM, WE DO WANT TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          WE DID HAVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, MEET AND WE'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL. 
          UM, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE INCREASES ARE WITHIN CPI, THERE ALSO WERE A FEW CHANGES HERE AND THERE TO HOW, JUST HOW SOME OF THE, UM, FEES ARE WORKING LIKE THE PLAYERS CLUB AND THAT GARY CAN SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO, UM, WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK, UM, ON THESE ITEMS. SO KEVIN, IF YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, DISCUSSED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          SO WE DID HAVE A MEETING AND AS YOU JUST EXPLAINED, LORI, UM, AGCS REQUEST WAS WITHIN THE CPI, WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED TO BASED ON THE PARAMETERS OUTLINED IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          SO WE HAD I THINK, A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION AND GARY ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR US. 
          UM, I, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, IT, IT MIGHT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLAYERS CLUB IN PARTICULAR AND THE RANGE BALL CHANGES. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY WHAT STUCK OUT TO ME IN MY NOTES AS THE, THE MOST, UM, CONSEQUENTIAL I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. 
          AND THEN I CAN MAYBE TAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AFTER YOU SURE. 
          GO THROUGH WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE. 
          UM, SO I MEAN WE COULD START WITH THE PLAYERS CLUB. 
          SO LONG BEACH LAUNCHED THE PLAYERS CLUB ALMOST SEVEN YEARS AGO. 
          UM, IT STARTED AT $40 A MONTH FOR TWO BAR, TWO LARGE BUCKETS OF BALLS, A BEVERAGE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FOR PLAYING GOLF. 
          UM, IT ACTUALLY LAUNCHED AT $50 A MONTH. 
          WE DIDN'T GET AS MUCH TRACTION AS WE WANTED, SO WE DROPPED IT DOWN TO $40 A MONTH AND I WANT TO SAY, UH, 29 9 9 FOR RESIDENTS. 
          39 99 FOR NON-RESIDENTS. 
          AND IT'S GONE UP EVERY YEAR THE CPI FOR THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. 
          UM, AS THE PLAYERS CLUB CONTINUES TO GROW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT IS, IS NOT HAVING ENOUGH TIME ON THE, OR NOT HAVING ENOUGH SPOTS ON THE DRIVER RANGES. 
          WE CAN'T MAKE 'EM DOUBLE DECKERS, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DRILL DOWN, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T BUILD UP, UM, ON A LOT OF THE PLACES. 
          BUT THE, THE BIGGEST THING WE GET IS, YOU KNOW, I'M TIRED OF WAITING ON THE SPACE AND OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WE'RE HAVING TO PICK UP BALL. 
          I MEAN, WE LITERALLY PICK BALLS ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, UM, ON THE DRIVING RANGE WITH THE ADDED VALUE OF THE PROGRAM THAT'S STILL THERE. 
          YOU GET A LARGE BUCKET OF BALLS EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHICH IS A HUNDRED BALLS. 
          WE WANT TO TAKE THE PROGRAM TO A MEDIUM BUCKET. 
          A MEDIUM BUCKET IS 70 70. 
          WITH THAT, IT'S STILL GONNA GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO WARM UP EVERY DAY WITH THE COST OF THE RANGE OF BALLS. 
          IT'S STILL THREE BUCKETS OF BALLS A MONTH AND YOU'VE MADE THE, YOU'VE MADE YOUR PRO YOUR BENEFITS WORTH IT FOR YOUR MONTHLY FEE. 
          GRANTED, IF YOU PLAY GOLF ONCE ON A SATURDAY OR ONCE ON A SUNDAY, YOU'VE MADE UP YOUR, YOUR MONTHLY FEE AS IT IS FROM THERE ALREADY. 
          UM, BUT CHANGING IT TO A MEDIUM BUCKET WOULD GET PEOPLE INTO THE RANGE AND OUT OF THE RANGE SOONER SO THAT THE COMPACTION ON THE DRIVER RANGES, ESPECIALLY FROM FOUR 30 TO NINE AT NIGHT, WOULD JUST BE A LITTLE BIT LESS AND KEEP PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE HAPPY THAT 
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THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT. 
          GRANTED, THERE'S STILL THINGS LOGISTICALLY THAT PEOPLE WILL WAIT AT HARTWELL EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO WAITING AT SKYLIN. 
          IT'S REALLY KIND OF WEIRD HOW IT WORKS SOMETIMES. 
          BUT HARTWELL HAS THE MAIN SUB BASE OF MEMBERS, IF YOU WILL. 
          THEY HAVE ALMOST 1200, BUT LOWERING IT FROM A LARGE BUCKET TO A MEDIUM BUCKET WOULD HELP ALLOW PEOPLE TO HIT MORE, HIT SOONER THAN THEY WANT AND GET PEOPLE CONTINUALLY MOVING THROUGH THE DRIVING RANGES. 
          BUT THE OVERALL BENEFIT FOR THE PROGRAM IS WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY MORE MONEY. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE US ANY MORE MONEY. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE MORE ACCESS TO THE DRIVING RANGES. 
          BUT YOU'RE GONNA RAISE THE FEE, IS THAT CORRECT? THE FEE GOES UP TO CPII THINK IT, BUT HOW CAN, CAN YOU JUSTIFY RAISING THE FEE AND LOWERING THE NUMBER OF BALLS THAT ARE IN THE BUCKET OF BALLS? BECAUSE YOU COULD STILL HIT 'EM EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          SO IF YOU HIT A BUCKET OF BALLS EVERY MONDAY, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR MONEY BACK AND WITH THE PRICE OF THE RANGE BUCKETS GOING UP, IT'S STILL A GREAT VALUE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE IT TO A MEDIUM. 
          AH, THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME BECAUSE THE FEE'S GOING UP A DOLLAR. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT, THE AMOUNT OF BALLS AND A MEDIUM VERSUS A LARGE 30. 
          30 30. 
          SO YOU'RE DOING THAT JUST TO ROTATE THE PLAY PEOPLE THAT ARE PRACTICING, IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL STILL GET A LARGE BUCKET AND IT'LL TAKE 'EM AN HOUR AND A HALF TO HIT 'EM BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO HANG OUT, MAKE PHONE CALLS, HIT RANGE BALLS. 
          THIS TAKES SOME OF THAT TIME AWAY FROM 'EM. 
          WHAT IF YOU, I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES ON THE COURSE THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE OUT THERE HITTING BALLS, PRACTICING BALLS MM-HMM . 
          HOW'S THAT GONNA JUSTIFY FOR THEM TO, TO HIT A LARGE BUCKET OF BALLS? WAS IT 30 BALLS LESS THAN THAT? I, I GET THAT BUT IF YOU'RE HITTING THE HITTING HITTING BALLS AT NOON, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON A STALL. 
          YOU CAN COME OUT HIT AT YOUR LEISURELY. 
          THERE'S NOBODY ELSE THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THIS IS MAINLY TO TAKE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE IT THE MOST AT NIGHT WHEN THEY CAN'T USE IT ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE AT WORK OR OTHER OBLIGATIONS. 
          THIS IS GONNA GET MORE PEOPLE ON THE DRIVER RANGES AT NIGHT AND WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT TO THE MOST ACCESS POSSIBLE. 
          AND WHEN THE PEOPLE AREN'T CLAMORING TO GET ON TO DO THE PRACTICE RANGE, SAY 12 O'CLOCK, ONE O'CLOCK THAT TIME, COULD YOU GET MORE THAN ONE BUCKET OF BALLS RIGHT NOW THE PROGRAM STATES? NO. 
          IF OUR PROGRAMS ALLOWED THAT, IF OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING ALLOWED THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK INTO. 
          UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, NO. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PLAYERS CLUB PER SE, BUT, UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE OR WAS IT EVER DISCUSSED WHEN IT WAS FIRST INITIALLY BEING PUT IN TO HAVE A DIFFERENT RATE FOR JUNIORS OR SENIORS? OR WAS THAT JUST FOR PLAYERS CLUB? FOR THE PLAYERS CLUB? NO, NO. 
          SO THE, THE NEXT STEP PASSED IF WE, IF WE CAN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION ON A LARGE BUCKET, TWO MEDIUM BUCKET, OUR NEXT STEP WOULD EITHER BE POTENTIALLY PHASING OUT THE PROGRAM ALTOGETHER OR ADDING A WHOLE NEW LEVEL TO THE PROGRAM. 
          SO THERE'D BE A WEEKEND MEMBERSHIP AND A WEEKDAY MEMBERSHIP OR A PRIME MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IS FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND LATER YOU'RE GONNA PAY 10 TO 15 TO $20 MORE. 
          AND THEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HIT DURING THE PRIME TIME AROUND THE WEEKENDS, YOU GET HIT BALLS ANYTIME BEFORE FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          SO I'D RATHER NOT ADD FOUR RATES. 
          I WOULD RATHER JUST KEEP THE TWO RATES WE HAVE AND GO UP A DOLLAR AND DOWN TO A MEDIUM BUCKET RATHER THAN ADD A WHOLE NEW LAYER OF, OF MEMBERSHIPS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PUT HIT BALLS AT NIGHT. 
          THE SYSTEM CAN'T HANDLE DIFFERENTIATING THE PRIME TIME VERSUS NOT YET. 
          SO YOU HAVE MEMBERSHIP, YOUR PRIME TIME STARTS AT 4:00 PM ABOUT FOUR 30 IT STARTS TO GET BUSY. 
          HOW ABOUT IN THE MORNING WHEN THERE'S ALL THOSE GOLFERS? ONLY ONE MEDIUM BUCKET THAT I SAY THEY PROBABLY BUY SMALL BUCKETS AND HIT A FEW BEFORE THEY GO OUT DRIVING RANGE CONGESTION PRICING IS WHAT I MEAN. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN LA ALL OF OUR LA ORANGE COUNTY COURSES HAVE FOUR RATES. 
          YOU HAVE A PRIME RATE AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY PRIME RATE, YOU'RE GONNA PAY CHEAPER. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T PLAY GOLF BEFORE, YOU KNOW, TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND YOU CAN'T HIT BALLS AT NIGHT. 
          SO ARE WE TALKING 25 BALLS DIFFERENCE? 30. 
          30. 
          OKAY. 
          SOMETIMES, UM, IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE THEIR LARGE BUCKET OF BALLS IN THE TRAY. 
          YES, I HAVE THAT. 
          AND THEN DISAPPEAR, BUT, BUT LEAVE THEIR CLUBS THERE. 
          SO THEY'RE JUST TAKING THE SPOT BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY USING IT. 
          IT'S, THAT'S REALLY IRRITATING. 
          I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE FOUND THAT ONE. 
          WE SEE IT EVERY DAY. 
          YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, CAN YOU? I MEAN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THREE MEMBERSHIPS AND THEY HIT, THEY HIT THREE BUCKETS OF BALLS FOUR DAYS A WEEK. 
          THEY HAVE THREE MEMBERSHIPS. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, $150 A MONTH 'CAUSE THEY HIT BALLS FOUR DAYS A WEEK. 
          THEY'LL HAVE THREE BUCKS THE BALLS AND THEY'RE OUT THERE FOR THREE HOURS. 
          BUT WE PAID FOR THREE 
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MEMBERSHIPS. 
          SO I MEAN WE HAVE THAT. 
          EVERYBODY HAPPENS ZERO HANDICAP. 
          ABOUT HOW MANY PLAYERS CLUB MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE NOW? IS IT SORT OF THE MOST IT'S EVER BEEN? IT LEVELED OUT LAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE GONE FROM 4,200 TO 4,400. 
          UM, I'LL CONNECT TO THE INTERNET REAL QUICK AND UH, I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER IN YOUR LETTER. 
          IT STATES 4,000 CURRENT MEMBERS PLANS TO INCREASE THE MEMBERSHIP TO 40, 4400 BY THE SUMMER THEN. 
          BUT IS THAT, IS THAT A, IS THAT A RECORD? IS THAT PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT? THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE SINCE THE UM, PLAYERS CLUB'S DOING SO WELL FOR JUST THE AVERAGE JOE THAT GOES ON BY IS ONCE A WEEK NOT IN THE MEMBERS CLUB. 
          SHOULDN'T, THEY SHOULDN'T BE A SUBSIDIZE THEM AND NOT RAISE THEIR, SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          BUCKET RATES. 
          SO WHY DO WE NEED TO RAISE THE GUYS THAT ARE BUYING A BUCKET OF BALLS? WHY DO WE NEED TO RAISE THEIR RATES? 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO STAY COMPETITIVE. 
          COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET. 
          THIS IS WHAT LA COUNTY'S GOING TO. 
          THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO. 
          SOME OF THE DRIVING RANGES, LIKE IE. 
          HILLS, THEY'RE 22 OR $24 AT PRIME. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA ADD BALLS AT NIGHT, THE RATE GOES UP $4 AND IT'S NO LONGER 19, IT'S 24 TO 25. 
          AND LA COUNTY IS LOOKING AT GOING TO THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS THE NEXT STEP FOR LA COUNTY ON THAT RANGE BALLS. 
          SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STAY COMPETITIVE TO EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          AND IT HAS MORE VALUE TO THE PROGRAM DO THAT. 
          WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT THOUGH, GARY? WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GO WITH THE THE WAY IT IS THAN OUR AREA INSTEAD OF COMPARING, I MEAN, LA COUNTY IS OUR AREA, PARDON ME. 
          SO IF LA IF WE'RE CHARGING LESS THAN LA COUNTY, WE'RE TAKING FROM LA COUNTY, BUT IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE OUR DRIVING RANGES MORE COMPACTED FOR PEOPLE HITTING. 
          SO IF WE STAY COMPETITIVE WITH THE MARKET, OUR PLAYERS CLUB AND THE PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT ARE GONNA BE HAPPY. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT OVERCHARGING THEM. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STAY COMPETITIVE. 
          DO YOU HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU HAVE RESIDENT RATES THOUGH, DON'T YOU? NOT ON THE DRIVING RANGE. 
          NO. 
          BUT COULD YOU POTENTIALLY, BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW UNLESS YOU COME IN AND PURCHASE A BUCKET OF BALLS AND WE'D HAVE TO CHECK YOUR RESIDENT CARD EVERY TIME YOU COME IN TO BUY BALLS. 
          UHHUH . 
          BUT WITH THE, WITH THE RESIDENT PLAYERS' CLUB, YOU SAVE 10 OR $12 A MONTH ON THE RESIDENT PLAYERS CLUB. 
          SO YOUR DISCOUNT IS ON THE MONTHLY FEE AND ON GREEN FEES. 
          'CAUSE RESIDENTS ARE BASICALLY THE ONLY PEOPLE GETTING TEE TIMES RIGHT NOW UNLESS A UNLESS A RESIDENT CANCELS, IT GETS BACKFILLED BY A NON-RESIDENT. 
          SO OUR NON-RESIDENT TO RESIDENT RATIO GETTING TEE TIMES HAS ACTUALLY GONE DOWN AS WELL. 
          SO THERE'S TWO LEVELS OF PLAYERS, PLAYERS CLUB RESIDENT, NONRESIDENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT'S THE PRICE DIFFERENCE? UH, JUST CURIOSITY. 
          11, 12 A YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          54 TO 43. 
          SO 11, 11 50 I THINK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, WHICH IS, IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN THE FEE SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS. 
          WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AT THE AD HOC MEETING, BUT I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PLAYING IN THE GOLF FESTIVAL EVENTS, HOW THE PRICING IS DETERMINED FOR THOSE, BECAUSE IN PARTICULAR THE LONG BEACH OPEN CAME UP IS IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STICKER SHOCK. 
          IT'S A PROFESSIONAL EVENT UNDERSTANDABLY AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, YEAH, YOU HAD A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR, FOR THAT AND SINCE OUR THAT MEETING, THE, THE OTHER FESTIVAL EVENTS HAVE BEEN, UH, I'VE, I'VE RECEIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE TOO. 
          SO, SO ALL THE EVENTS ARE FILLING UP, UH, AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. 
          WE'VE GOT 88 PLAYERS AS OF THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE SENIORS. 
          SO THAT ONE WILL BE FULL HERE IN THE NEXT PROBABLY WEEK. 
          UM, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          THE OTHER EVENTS ARE FILLING UP STRAIGHT ON SCHEDULES. 
          WE WERE, LAST YEAR, UH, THE FEES WENT UP THIS YEAR, UH, THEY WERE GONNA GO UP $5. 
          THEY ENDED UP GOING UP 10 AND $10 PER ROUND IS ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO AMERICAN GOLF FOUNDATION. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE SEASON, $10 FOR EVERY PERSON THAT SIGNED UP FOR AN EVENT, I WANT TO SAY IT'S, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS CLOSE TO $2,000 IS GONNA BE DONATED TO, UH, A CHARITY OF OUR CHOICE. 
          IT'S MOST LIKELY GONNA BE FOLDED HONOR. 
          UM, AND WE'LL CUT THAT CHECK TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND, AND SPONSORSHIP FROM THE GOLF FESTIVAL AND AMERICAN GOLF FOUNDATION FOR THE LONG BEACH OPEN. 
          SO TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME HISTORY, SO BEFORE COVID, THE LONG BEACH OPEN WAS 316 PLAYERS. 
          THERE WERE 300 AND 304 PROS, 12 AMATEURS. 
          WE FILLED RECREATION PARK AND EL DORADO UP FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. 
          THERE WAS A PRACTICE ROUND ON WEDNESDAY AND TUESDAY WITH THE PROAM. 
          ON WEDNESDAY YOU WOULD CUT FROM 316 PLAYERS DOWN TO TOP 72 IN TIES FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AFTER COVID. 
          AND, AND THE ENTRY FEE 
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WAS, IT STARTED AT FOUR 50 EVERY TWO YEARS WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THE PURSE WOULD GO UP 5,000. 
          SO WE'D RAISE THE ENTRIES FEE BY 50. 
          SO OVER THE LAST 14 YEARS, I THINK IT ENDED AT 700. 
          THIS WAS THREE YEARS AGO. 
          THE ENTRY FEE WAS 700 RIGHT AFTER COVID WE HAD TOOK A YEAR OFF 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T HAVE THE FESTIVAL. 
          THE NEXT YEAR WE OPENED BACK UP, WE TRIED TO GET TO 312 PLAYERS AND WE GOT TO, OH MAN, I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE 218 PLAYERS. 
          SO AMERICAN GOLF STILL HAD TO FOR FOOT FORTH THE BILL FOR THAT PURSE THAT WAS GUARANTEED AT, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SPACE SOMETHING ON THE PURSE THAT IT WAS YEARS AGO. 
          UM, SO WE ACTUALLY LOST ABOUT $55,000 THAT LAST YEAR. 
          'CAUSE WE COULDN'T GET TO 312 PLAYERS. 
          SO WE MADE A DECISION AS A COMMITTEE AND AS AMERICAN GOLF THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO SHOOT FOR 156 PLAYERS, 156 PLAYERS. 
          THE PURSE WAS NOT WHERE THE PROS WANTED IT. 
          SO THE PURSE ENDED UP BEING WITH 156 PLAYERS AT $750 THE PURSE, WE GUARANTEED $25,000 TO THE WINNER, BUT WITH THE PURSE BEING HALF OF WHAT IT WAS, 'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY 156 PLAYERS, THE PURSE WAS GONNA BE ABOUT 12 OR 13,000 AND NOBODY WANTED TO TRAVEL OUT FOR A PURSE THAT WAS 13,000 FOR THE WINNER. 
          SO WE DID A SURVEYMONKEY THAT WENT OUT TO ALL THE PAST PLAYERS. 
          THEY WOULD RATHER PAY, THEY'RE PAYING ANYWHERE FROM 1200 TO 15 TO 1600 ON ALL THE MINI TOUR EVENTS THAT THEY GO TO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          SO WE TALK TO THE MAIN GUYS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE PLAYED IT EVERY YEAR. 
          THEY'RE LONG BEACH LOCAL, SOME OF THE GUYS THAT TRAVEL IN EVERY YEAR AND 1500 IS WAY TOO MUCH. 
          BUT THEY WANTED THE PURSE TO GO UP. 
          SO THE $1,100 PER PERSON AT 156 PLAYERS, IT'S 150. 
          IT'S 150 PROS AND SIX AMATEURS. 
          SO 150 PROS AT $1,100. 
          THE PURSE IS NOW BACK TO WHAT IS STATED ONLINE. 
          WINNER GETS, I WANT TO SAY THE WINNER NOW GETS BACK TO 25,000 TOP 17 PLAYERS ACTUALLY GET THEIR MONEY BACK. 
          AND WHEN YOU TRY AND MAKE THE CUT WITH 316 PLAYERS, THE, THE ODDS OF YOU MAKING THE CUT 72 IN TIES IS A LOT SMALLER THAN TOP 60 IN TIES WITH 150 PLAYERS AND BELOW. 
          SO WE'VE LOWERED THE FIELD, YOU HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE CUT AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME PURSE AVAILABILITY THAT THE PROS WANTED. 
          SO WE TOOK THEIR ADVICE, RAISED THE PRICE. 
          LAST YEAR WE HAD, I THINK WE WERE 12 PLAYERS SHORT. 
          SO THIS YEAR WE'RE ON TRACK, WE'RE STILL GETTING SIGNUPS FOR THE OPEN. 
          UM, THOSE USUALLY DON'T START COMING IN UNTIL APRIL OR MAY. 
          UM, BECAUSE THE EVENT ISN'T UNTIL AUGUST. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE ALREADY GOT I THINK 10 OR 11 SIGNUPS FOR THE OPEN THIS YEAR SO FAR. 
          UM, WHICH IS RIGHT ON TRACK TO WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND GOING FROM 700 TO 1100. 
          IT WASN'T JUST, HEY, WE WANNA MAKE MORE MONEY. 
          NO, WE WANT THE PURSE TO BE WHERE THEY WANT IT. 
          THE PURSE PAYOUT IS 73% OF THE ENTRY FEES. 
          WHAT ABOUT SPONSORSHIP? SO THIS YEAR IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH A 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. 
          SO IF A SPONSOR CAME IN LAST YEAR, THEY'RE JUST WRITING A CHECK TO AMERICAN GOLF. 
          THEY DON'T GET ANY TAX DEDUCTIBLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH A 5 0 1 C3. 
          SO NOW IF A SPONSOR DOES COME IN AND WE ARE LOOKING, WE HAVE A FEW THAT MAY COME IN FOR 10 OR $12,000 ON A SPONSORSHIP FOR SCORECARDS OR CARD FEES OR RANGE BALLS OR JUST A TITLE SPONSOR. 
          AND WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH THOSE DETAILS 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FOR SURE COMPANY THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND SPONSOR. 
          WE'RE SEEING HOW THE FIRST YEAR GOES WITH A, WITH A CHARITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          UM, WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT WE TALKED TO OF WHY ARE YOU TAKING PART OF OUR ENTRY FEES TO GO TO A CHARITY? I'D RATHER JUST HAVE A LOWER GREEN FEE. 
          OKAY, WELL WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AND STILL, LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T BROKEN EVEN ON THE FESTIVAL. 
          HONEST TRUTH, WE DON'T BREAK EVEN ON THE FESTIVAL. 
          WE LOSE MONEY EVERY YEAR AND THAT'S CHARGING RESIDENT RATES. 
          WE COMP THE RANGE BALLS WE CHARGE FOR CARTS DAY OF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RIDE. 
          AND WE PAY OUT AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN. 
          THE PURSES HAVE ACTUALLY GONE UP. 
          WE'RE PAYING OUT LESS PEOPLE, BUT THE PURSE HAS GONE UP. 
          SO WE'VE RAISED THE PURSE FOR THE PRICE FUNDS EVERY YEAR FOR ALL THE INDIVIDUAL TOURNAMENTS. 
          UM, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT A TOURNAMENT THAT'S GREAT TO PLAY IN THIS YEAR. 
          I WAS WORKING WITH LOU, I'M WORKING WITH LOU MUNOZ. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU GUYS KNOW LOU, I THINK SHE'S IN LA COUNTY. 
          SHE WANTS TO PAIR UP ALL THREE OF THE LA COUNTY AND LONG BEACH TOURNAMENTS AND TO ONE CHAMPION FOR THE LADIES CHAMPION FOR LA COUNTY LONG BEACH. 
          SO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HER ABOUT THAT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE TOURNAMENTS FUN TO PLAY IN. 
          HERE'S YOUR PAYOUT. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEND SOME MONEY TO CHARITY AT THE SAME TIME AND, AND BREAK EVEN. 
          THAT'S LITERALLY MY ONLY GOAL. 
          YEAH, I WAS THINKING OF SPONSORSHIP FOR PRIZE MONEY. 
          I MEAN KIND OF LIKE THE PGA TOUR OBVIOUSLY IN A SMALLER SCALE, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE COLORADO OPEN. 
          THE COLORADO OPEN HAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PURSE EVERY YEAR, BUT THEY HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SPONSORSHIP FROM A BANK THAT'S SPONSORED IT THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE 18 OR 20 YEARS. 
          SO THEY AUTOMATICALLY HAVE THAT 
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PURSE AND WE CAN'T GET PRIVATE SPONSORSHIP IF YOU COULD FIND SOMEBODY TO GIMME A HUNDRED GRAND IF IT WAS ADVERTISED. 
          WELL AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH A, WITH A CHARITY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, UM, THERE'S A, UH, SHERMAN WILLIAMS, SHERWIN WILLIAMS, THEY MAY COME IN AT A $20,000 SPONSORSHIP. 
          SO THAT MONEY GOES TOWARDS, UM, UH, AMERICAN GOLF FOUNDATION. 
          10% GOES TO OVERHEAD FOR THAT. 
          AND WHATEVER ELSE WE DEEM THAT GOES BACK TO THE TOURNAMENT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          SO WE CAN PUT THAT TOWARDS THE PURSE, WE CAN PUT THAT TOWARDS THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL TOURNAMENTS. 
          IT'S WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO. 
          BUT AGAIN, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS COME IN YET. 
          UM, I DON'T WANT IT TO ALSO TURN INTO, YOU KNOW, NASCAR BILLBOARD WHERE YOU GOT 37 SPONSORS ON ALL THE HOLES AND THERE'S T SIGNS EVERYWHERE AND WE HAVE TO PICK 'EM UP, TAKE 'EM DOWN, AND IT JUST LOOKS, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK NON CLASSY. 
          SO IF IT'S GONNA BE A SPONSOR, THE DRIVING RANGE IS SPONSORED BY X, YOU KNOW, SCORECARDS ARE ALL SPONSORED BY X AND THERE'S A LOGO ON THE SCORECARD AND LIKE THAT'S TITLE SPONSOR. 
          YEAH, WE HAVE YOUR SIGN ON. 
          THE FIRST INTENT. 
          HE IS A TITLE SPONSOR. 
          SORRY. 
          THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, 18 SPONSOR SIGNS OUT THERE ON THE COURSE AND IT'S THIS GIANT CHARITY TOURNAMENT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT TOO. 
          SO WE WANT 'EM TO BE GOOD SPONSORS THAT WE CAN GET A TWO OR THREE YEAR COMMITMENT FROM THEM AND HAVE THEM BUDGET FOR IT NEXT YEAR SO THAT WE CAN GO INTO NEXT YEAR KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SOME STUFF. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW I CAN'T COUNT THAT. 
          IF EVERYTHING SELLS OUT, THE, THE FESTIVAL BREAKS EVEN AND THE PURSE IS GREAT AND I CAN SLEEP EASIER, BUT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. 
          I CAN SLEEP EASIER AFTER THEY'RE OVER. 
          BUT SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW ALL THE EVENTS CONTROL THEMSELVES. 
          THEY PAY FOR THEMSELVES EXCEPT FOR THE JUNIOR TOURNAMENT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? THERE'S ONE THING THAT CAME UP, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THIS MORNING OR YESTERDAY MORNING I GOT A CALL. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK ONLINE AND YOU LOOK EVERYWHERE, I WENT BACK TO 2012 OR 2013 UNDER THE SENIOR RESIDENT BACK NINE. 
          YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS SPREADSHEET IT SAYS SENIOR RESIDENT BACK NINE. 
          BUT ON EVERY RATE SHEET THAT I'VE GONE, I'VE, I'VE GONE THROUGH FROM THE CITY AND FOR AMERICAN GOLF FOR THE LAST 11 YEARS, IT SAYS SENIOR BACK NINE BEFORE 7:00 AM. 
          SO RIGHT NOW OUR TEE TIMES ARE FROM SIX 40 TO EIGHT O'CLOCK AS YOU CAN PLAY AT A BACK NINE UNTIL PEOPLE START COMING AROUND. 
          SO IF A SENIOR BACK NINE COMES OUT AT SEVEN 10, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE 2350 INSTEAD OF THE, I'M GONNA SPACE 6, 7 5 7 7 7 5 7 7 $8, 7 75 $8. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO THE QUESTION I RAISED TO OUR, THE VP OF REVENUE THIS MORNING WAS, I DON'T REALLY CARE IF IT'S ALL DAY ON THE BACK NINE, IT'S STILL BACK NINE TO ME. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T GO BACK FAR ENOUGH TO SEE WHEN IT ACTUALLY CHANGED TO 7:00 AM BUT MY VOTE WOULD BE MAKE IT, IF THEY'RE PLAYING THE BACK NINE BEFORE THE MORNING, IT'S NOT BEFORE 7:00 AM IT'S WHATEVER WE HAVE AVAILABLE ON THE BACK NINE. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? SO WE, WE TAKE NINE HOLE RESERVATIONS OFF THE 10TH TEE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE FIRST TEE STARTS AT SEVEN. 
          WE CAN SEND PEOPLE OUT FOR NINE HOLES UNTIL ABOUT 8 45. 
          RIGHT NOW IT'S 7 75 FOR A SENIOR RESIDENT TO PLAY NINE HOLES UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
          BUT EVERYTHING I I'M READING IT SAYS BEFORE SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE JUST WANT TO OPEN IT UP SO THAT IT SAYS 7 75 THE ENTIRE TIME ON THE BACK NINE. 
          SO YOU COULD PLAY AT EIGHT 30 OR YOU COULD PLAY AT SIX 30. 
          IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF YEAR AND WHAT TIME THE TIME COMES, THE SUN COMES UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA ADD TO THAT BENEFIT THAT IT'S JUST SENIOR BACK NINE IS IF YOU COME OUT TO PLAY THE BACK NINE, IT STILL SAYS SEVEN. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO BASICALLY JUST ELIMINATE 7:00 AM ON THERE. 
          'CAUSE I, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          I AND I, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FOR 10 YEARS. 
          SO 7:00 AM ISN'T ON HERE. 
          IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT IT'S ON EVERY RATE SHEET THAT THE CITY'S HAD. 
          OH, GOT YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN I MADE THIS, WHEN CHRIS MAY MADE THIS SPREADSHEET. 
          YEAH, I GOT YOU 10 YEARS AGO. 
          WE DIDN'T PUT BEFORE 7:00 AM ON THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S ON EVERYWHERE. 
          I JUST WANNA TAKE OFF BEFORE 7:00 AM YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          HAS IT BEEN BEING, WE CAN TALK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. 
          HAVE YOU BEEN APPLYING IT? YEAH. 
          THE WAY YOU'RE DESCRIBING MM-HMM . 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          SOMETIMES WE GIVE IT TO 'EM. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S IF YOU BOOK A SEVEN O'CLOCK TEE TIME, YOU GIVE IT TO 'EM AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, BUT NOT SEVEN 10. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS A GRAY AREA RIGHT THERE THAT LAST TEE TIME. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A 6 59 TEE TIME, SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
          SO NOW OUR NEW COMPUTERS, OUR NEW COMPUTERS, THAT RATE CUTS OFF AT SEVEN. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT, YOU DON'T, YOU CAN'T EVEN VIEW RESIDENT RATE OR SEVEN O'CLOCK RATE. 
          SO THE NEW SYSTEM, 
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SOMEBODY PICKED UP ON IT AND CALLED ME ABOUT IT AND I TOLD 'EM I HAD A MEETING ON THURSDAY AND I'D BRING IT UP. 
          SO, MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE LAST COMMENT I'LL MAKE IS THAT THE 10 MINUTE TEEN INTERVAL IS STILL EXTREMELY POPULAR IN TERMS OF THE ENHANCED EXPERIENCE. 
          SO I THINK THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE, UH, PART OF THE CALCULUS FOR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEES AND CHARGES, WHICH IS ALWAYS A, YOU KNOW, TOPIC OF CONCERN FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND, AND, AND EVERYONE ELSE. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? OKAY. 
          I GUESS, UH, WE ARE READY FOR THE ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          MR. CONING? YES. 
          MEMBER ELY? YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT? YES. 
          MEMBER DIMITRI. 
          YES. 
          MEMBER MALLER? YES. 
          MEMBER RICCI? YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION FOR DIRECTOR TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED GOLF COURSES, FOOD AND BEVERAGE PRICE LIST, AND CONTINUE THE TEMPORARY EGG DISHES PRICE INCREASE. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? OPEN THE FLOOR. 
          HAS IT BEEN OPEN? NO. 
          I I OKAY, WE HAVE A OPEN A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A, A, A MOTION FROM BARRETT AND A SECOND FROM YOUNG AND WITH THAT, UH, MOVE ON. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THIS WOULD BE, I CAN JUST OKAY. 
          START US OFF, BUT IT'LL BASICALLY BE GARY. 
          UM, I KNOW WE'RE COMING UP ON THREE O'CLOCK HERE. 
          UM, UH, IDEALLY THIS WOULD'VE COME TO THE, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEE AS WELL, BUT IT, THIS HAS A SLIGHT, THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PROCESS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, NOT AS, UH, STRICT AS THE FEES AND CHARGES AND IT'S, UM, UH, AMERICAN GOLF CAN PROPOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, PRICE INCREASES OCCASIONALLY AND THOSE COME TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE DIRECTOR. 
          UM, SO YOU HAVE THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU AND GARY CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO A ATTACHED HERE, UM, AN ACTION THAT WE TOOK A LITTLE EARLIER THIS YEAR TO TEMPORARILY INCREASE PRICES ON, UM, UH, EGG DITCHES, UM, AT ALL THE COURSE RESTAURANTS. 
          AND SO THE REQUEST IS TO, UM, UNTIL IF AND WHEN THESE, UM, PRICES TAKE EFFECT, IT WILL BE TO KEEP THOSE INCREASES IN PLACE UNTIL THAT TIME BECAUSE, UM, SINCE WE DID THAT, UM, SINCE WE, UM, MADE THAT MOVE WITHOUT THE COMMITTEE HAVING SEEN IT, UM, THE REQUEST WAS TO, UM, INCREASE THOSE PRICES UNTIL, UNTIL THE COMMITTEE COULD CONSIDER IT. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, UM, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THAT COVERS IT. 
          I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION THAT MAY COME UP, UH, FIRST OFF IS THE RED ITEMS THAT EL DORADO ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY OFF THE MENU. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST ITEMS THAT WE REMOVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND LIKE LORI SAID, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE FROM, AT ONE POINT WE WERE GETTING GRADE A, UM, EGGS BY THE CASE. 
          OUR CASE PRICE WAS $41 PER CASE. 
          UH, THE LAST CASE WE GOT TWO WEEKS AGO AT SKY LINKS WAS $146 A CASE. 
          UM, AND THROUGHOUT, AND I DID THE NUMBERS FROM LAST JULY, THEY'VE INCREASED ANYWHERE FROM 41% TO 86%. 
          AND THAT'S US CHANGING THE GRADE LEVEL OF EGGS, THE SIZE OF EGGS. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE PRICES AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT ON AVERAGE THEY'RE GOING UP ABOUT $60 A CASE AND IT'S A LOT. 
          UM, WE'VE SEEN IT ACROSS THE BOARD ON MANY ITEMS. UM, NOT SO MUCH ON THE BEVERAGE SIDE, IT'S REALLY JUST FOOD SIDE AND AVAILABILITY. 
          UM, SO ALL OF THESE INCREASES THAT YOU SEE ON THE LIST TODAY THAT YOU'VE HAD THIS WEEK, UM, ARE KEEPING UP WITH OUR COMPETITION FROM, YOU KNOW, BREAKFAST AND LUNCH SPOTS ACROSS LONG BEACH, ACROSS LA UM, WE'RE SEEING, WE'RE SEEING IT IN ORANGE COUNTY AND NEWPORT BEACH THROUGH OSO CREEK, RANCHO SAN JOAQUIN, YOU NAME IT. 
          THE PRICES ARE GOING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE, ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          WE HAD ANOTHER MINIMUM WAGE HIKE THIS YEAR THAT WAS 5% ON ITS OWN. 
          UM, AND THE VENDORS ARE GOING UP MORE DELIVERY FEES AND THEY'RE LESSENING OUR AMOUNT TO SCHEDULE. 
          SO WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO DELIVERIES A MONTH FOR SOME THINGS. 
          ONE DELIVERY A MONTH AND THEY'RE CHARTING IS DOUBLE ON THOSE DELIVERY FEES. 
          UM, SO OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT THE, THE ONES THAT WERE EGGS REALLY CAME UP. 
          OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE SEEN IT ON THE NEWS, YOU'VE SEEN IT IN THE GROCERY STORE. 
          UM, SO THE LARGEST INCREASE WAS ON THOSE BREAKFAST ITEMS THAT INCLUDE EGGS. 
          UM, I HEARD THAT IT CAME DOWN IN THE NEWS TODAY. 
          WE DON'T GET OUR ORDER TILL TODAY, SO I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE EGG PRICE WAS TODAY. 
          'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL JUST SAY THAT THAT ITEM IS NOT 
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IN STOCK ANYMORE. 
          HERE'S THE CASE OF EGGS AND THEY CHOOSE WHAT IT IS AND WE JUST HAVE TO PAY IT. 
          SO WE HAVE NO CONTROL SOMETIMES OVER WHAT, WHAT WE GET AND WHAT THEY'RE DELIVERING. 
          SO, SO IF THE PRICE OF EGGS GO DOWN, WE'LL THEN GO DOWN FOR THE RESTAURANT A GOOD THEY, THEY COME DOWN. 
          I WOULD NOT BE AGAINST IT. 
          UH, I'LL SAY IT FIRST HERE. 
          THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. 
          JUST RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOSING ON, ON ALL BREAKFAST ITEMS. WELL, WE HAVEN'T BEEN SINCE WE HAD THE TEMPORARY MEMO PUT IN PLACE, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STAY AFLO OF EGGS. 
          SO THE, THE PRICES THAT ARE HERE ARE IN PLACE FOR THE YEAR. 
          THIS WOULD TAKE EFFECT JULY 1ST. 
          SO EVEN IF ALUMINUM PRICES GO CRAZY AND THE BEER PRICES GO UP, YOU WE'RE STILL GONNA STICK WITH THESE PRICES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE, THE INCREASES WE'RE SEEING ON BEER ARE A LOT OF THE KEGS BECAUSE THOSE JUST TEND TO BE, YOU GOTTA PAY FOR A DEPOSIT FOR THE KEG AND YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ALL THE TYPES OF THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT IT'S MAINLY DELIVERY FEES. 
          UM, AND IT'S MINIMUM ORDERS. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE VERY BIG STORAGE ROOM AT REC NINE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE ARE ALL OF OUR BEER TO REC 18 AND THEN WE JUST MOVE IT OVER TO REC NINE BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY ORDER ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS NOW FROM BEER. 
          YEAH. 
          COKE IS ONCE A MONTH. 
          IF YOU WANT TO GET COKE, YOU CAN ONLY ORDER COKE ONCE A MONTH. 
          SO THERE'S FOR TWO WEEKS YOU CAN'T WALK ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR COKE DELIVERY FOR THE MONTH AND THEY'RE STILL CHARGING US TRIPLE WHAT THEY USED TO WHEN THEY USED TO DELIVER THREE TIMES A MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          ONCE A WEEK. 
          UM, SO LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT YEAH. 
          UM, HAVE HIT US. 
          BUT THE COST OF LIQUOR BEER, WE DON'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF THOSE PRICES INCREASING UNLESS WE GET SOME SPECIALTY BEER FROM, YOU KNOW, FRANCE OR ITALY. 
          A NEW, A NEW NO, JUST LIKE THE NEW CRAFT BEERS THAT COME OUT. 
          OH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE KEG WILL GO FROM 200 BUCKS A KEG TO $300 A KEG FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF BEERS, BUT IT'S A SPECIALTY CRAFT BEER THEY'VE CREATED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME UP IN A SPECIAL, BUT WE DON'T ORDER TOO MANY STUFF, TOO MANY ITEMS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT FOR THE MOST PART BEVERAGES WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANOTHER INCREASE IN COST FROM COKE. 
          WE DID GO TO CANS INSTEAD OF THE 20 OUNCE BOTTLES THAT YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THE 20 OUNCE BOTTLES. 
          I MEAN, THEY WANTED US TO CHARGE 6, 6 50 FOR A 20 OUNCE BOTTLE. 
          AND I JUST, I CAN'T SEE DOING THAT. 
          SO WE WENT TO SODA CANS AND ARE BACK DOWN TO I THINK THREE BUCKS. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S HELPED CONSIDERABLY. 
          UH, THE FEAR I HAVE WITH, UM, LIKE EGGS SURCHARGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS THAT YOU ADDED THAT PRICE ON THERE WITHOUT PARAMETERS THAT THOSE PRICES A LOT OF TIMES DON'T DISAPPEAR. 
          SO IF THE EGGS A YEAR FROM NOW ARE HALF WHAT THEY COST NOW, THIS WASN'T A SURCHARGE. 
          WE CHANGED THE MENU PRICE ON EACH ITEM SO IT DOESN'T READ AS A SERVICE CHARGE. 
          WE CHANGED THE MENU PRICE ON ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, AND THE PRICES ARE NOW YES. 
          IN HERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          SO, SO THE PRICES YOU SEE IN HERE WILL BE THE PRICES IN JULY. 
          WHAT ARE THEY NOW? I MEAN, ARE THEY INCREASED FOR, FOR BREAKFAST ITEMS? THIS IS THE PRICE YOU'RE SEEING NOW? WELL, WHAT IF THEY GO DOWN BY JULY, THEN I CAN READDRESS THAT IN JULY. 
          THIS IS THE MAXIMUM WE CAN CHARGE FOR AN ITEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF I WANT TO NOT CHARGE SENIOR $7, I CAN CHARGE 'EM FOUR. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF I'M, IF I'M USUALLY READING THAT RIGHT. 
          LA COUNTY, YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM YOU CAN CHARGE. 
          IF I WANNA CHARGE LESS THAN THAT, I CAN, IF, IF I SAY THAT EGGS HAVE COME DOWN AND OUR MARGINS BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE, THEN I CAN LOWER THE PRICE ON SANDWICHES. 
          THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL. 
          WE'RE JUST RIGHT NOW TRYING TO COVER OUR COSTS. 
          YOU BUY OR TRADE DRUGS. 
          SO WHEN WE BUY, WHEN WE BUY FOOD AND BEVERAGE PRODUCTS FROM, I, WELL, I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          WE BUY FOOD AND BEVERAGE FROM OTHER PRODUCTS. 
          WE CAN'T JUST GO TO LIKE STATE BROTHERS BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY GETS SICK, WHERE'D YOU GET A STATE BROTHER? CISCO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH, THEY HAVE 3 MILLION LIABILITY. 
          IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THOSE EGGS, NOW I HAVE TO GO TO STATER BROTHERS AND THEN WELL, ARE YOU SURE THOSE ARE THE EGGS THAT YOU BOUGHT FROM US? WELL, NO. 
          EVERYTHING GETS DELIVERED BY CISCO. 
          SO IF WE HAVE TO RUN TO THE STORE AND GET SOMETHING IT'S, YOU KNOW, CUPS OR TOMATOES OR VERY, VERY RARELY DO WE NEED TO RUN OUT AND GET, YOU KNOW, BUTTER OR SOMETHING QUICK. 
          BUT WE WON'T GO AND BUY 12 CASES OF EXIT THAT EVERYTHING THAT, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH LIQUOR EITHER. 
          BUT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER. 
          SO WE COULD, BUT WE CAN'T. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE FAIR. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU SORT OF DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE A, A TEMPORARY PRICE INCREASE WITH SUNSET? SO, 'CAUSE ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST RAISING THE CEILING AND SO THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE A REDUCTION FROM THAT CEILING IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. 
          IT'S SORT OF, IT COULD BE, LIKE I SAID, IF EGGS GO BACK DOWN, UH, I WILL, LIKE I SAID, I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY IF EGGS COME BACK DOWN AND I CAN SHOW YOU THE REPORTS IN SIX MONTHS AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          BUT I MEAN, THE CEILING WILL STILL BE THERE BASED ON THE TEMPORARY PRICE INCREASE. 
          BUT THEN YOU CAN PULL IT BACK DOWN 
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UNDER THE CEILING, BUT THE CEILING IS NOT GONNA, YOU CAN GO DOWN BUT NOT UP. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU, YOU AND YOUR F AND B STAFF, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN SPECIALS MM-HMM . 
          TO OFFSET COST AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE THING THAT HELPS WITH OUR COST OF SALES IN LONG BEACH MORE THAN ANYTHING IS PRIVATE EVENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG CHUNK BECAUSE EL DORADO'S PROBABLY GOT THE HIGHEST COST IN THE COMPANY BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING A FULL SIZE, FULL, FULL-SIZED RESTAURANT. 
          THE SMALLER RESTAURANTS CAN CONTROL PRODUCT A LITTLE MORE. 
          THE BIGGER RESTAURANTS THAT ARE DOING 350 TO 400 PEOPLE A DAY, THEIR COST AND THEIR PAYROLL COSTS AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS, IS MORE DIFFICULT TO RUN THAN MY CAFE IS ONE BARTENDER, ONE COOK AND YOU KNOW, THEY SWITCH OFF THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          EL DORADO HAS 17 PEOPLE ON ANY GIVEN DAY THAT ARE WORKING. 
          SO THE COSTS ARE JUST EASIER TO CONTROL AT A SMALLER FACILITY. 
          BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING 160 COVERS FOR BREAKFAST AND EVERY EGG YOU CRACK IS, IS X, Y, AND Z, IT'S, IT'S A BIG CHUNK. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK I USED THE EXAMPLE, NOBODY REMEMBERED US NOT HAVING LIMES IN LONG BEACH FOR ALMOST SIX MONTHS. 
          DO YOU ? 'CAUSE THEY WERE, WE COULDN'T GET LIMES. 
          THEY WERE TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          SO I SAID, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT CARRYING LIMES ANYMORE. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE EVERY SLICE OF LIME COSTS US LIKE A DOLLAR. 
          YOU COME PICK MY TREE UP. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WELL MY WIFE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, WE DON'T WANNA STOP CARRYING EGGS AND STOP HAVING BREAKFAST. 
          WE'D RATHER JUST INCREASE THE PRICES THAT WE NEED TO AND THE HELP WITH THE COMMITTEE CAN DO THAT. 
          CONTINUE TO SERVE AND, AND GO FROM THERE. 
          SOUR CREAM WAS TOGETHER. 
          DID YOU NOT MENTION THAT OUR WAGE, UM, MEETING A FEW WEEKS, THE FEE MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO, THAT IF LET'S SAY EGGS GO UP ANOTHER 40%, THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY, YOU COULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANOTHER SURCHARGE. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANNA AVOID. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THE SIZE OF OUR EGGS, THE REASON WHY OUR COSTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE GONE TO SMALLER EGGS, I'D SAY LOWER GRADE EGGS. 
          AND SO THEY DON'T TASTE EXACTLY THE SAME. 
          AND WE WANNA TRY AND KEEP OUR PRODUCT QUALITY UP. 
          BUT IF I PAID WHAT THEY WANT ME TO PAY THROUGH CISCO, IT'S $212 A CASE. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT IT BACK DOWN TO ABOUT 80 TO $90 A CASE. 
          BUT, BUT JUST TO PROTECT YOU GUYS, AMERICAN GOLF, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD, YOU COULD COME BACK OR YOU'D HAVE TO COME BACK IF THEY WENT UP ANOTHER 40%? IE BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP EGGS ON THE MENU. 
          'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA LOSE MONEY. 
          I DON'T SEE IT. 
          TAKE A LOT MORE LOOK, CALL ME OPTIMISTIC. 
          I DON'T SEE 'EM, I DON'T SEE 'EM GOING UP. 
          THIS COVERS US FOR A WHILE. 
          IF THE PRICES STAY HERE FOR A WHILE AND THEY'VE ALREADY GONE UP 80%, SOME ALREADY SAID THEY CAME DOWN THIS WEEK. 
          BUT IF THE PRICES STAY HERE AND WE CAN CONTINUE THIS LIMBO WITH CISCO ON GRADE A TO UM, LET'S SAY JUMBO GRADE A TO REGULAR GRADE A, IF WE CAN KEEP THAT LIMBO WITH THEM HAVING IT IN STOCK, THIS WILL KEEP US JUST FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND CISCO IS ONE OF THE LARGER DISTRIBUTORS OF, OF FOOD PRODUCTS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, ACROSS THE WORLD. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER US FOR, I DUNNO, 60 YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST ASKING 'EM TO PROTECT YOU GUYS SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING MORE MONEY. 
          WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GO ASK LORI, HEY, CAN WE RAISE PRICES ON THIS AGAIN? LIKE YEAH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT SHRINK FUNCTION, ISN'T IT? BUT THIS, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HAS THAT $5 INCREASE TEMPORARY AS IT MAY BE REDUCED THE SALES? I MEAN IS IT PRETTY, HAVE YOU SEEN A LOT OF PRICE SENSITIVITY? BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. 
          WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN AT THE END OF FEBRUARY AND A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH. 
          SO LOOKING AT THE SALES MONTH OVER MONTH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. 
          UM, OUR COST OF SALES OVERALL AS LONG BEACH, WE'RE UP ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PERCENT ON FOOD ALONE. 
          THAT'S WITH THE PRICE INCREASES THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE. 
          SO JUST EVEN WITH THE INCREASES AND THAT, THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT EVERY HOT DOG AND SODA AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT EVERYTHING COLLECTIVELY WAS UP TWO AND A HALF PERCENT FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. 
          EACH UM, CAFE OR GRILL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THEY ALL SAY HAVE THE SAME PRICE. 
          IS IT LIKE EL DORADO RECORDS? IT DEPENDS BECAUSE WE CAN ALL ORDER THIS EGG TODAY AND WE ALL ORDER ON DIFFERENT ORDER DAYS. 
          EL DORADO'S TUESDAY, THURSDAY, SOMETIMES SATURDAY. 
          I'M TUESDAY FOR THURSDAY DELIVERY. 
          LDO IS TUESDAY FOR WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY FOR FRIDAY. 
          REC IS WEDNESDAY FOR THURSDAY. 
          SO THEY ALL ORDER AND GET DELIVERIES ON DIFFERENT DAYS. 
          SO YOU CAN ORDER THIS EGG TODAY, THAT'S $80 A CASE AND THEY'RE OUT OF IT BEFORE DELIVERY DAY AND THEY SEND YOU $140 A CASE, CASE OF EGGS. 
          AND WE DON'T, THEY DON'T TELL US THEY DON'T SEND IT. 
          THEY JUST SEND IT. 
          AND IF WE REJECT IT, WE DON'T HAVE EGGS. 
          IF WE KEEP IT, WE HAD TO PAY $140 A CASE. 
          SO A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN ALL ORDER THE SAME EGG AND WE CAN ALL END UP WITH FIVE DIFFERENT EGGS. 
          HOW MANY, HOW MANY ARE IN THE 
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CASE? SAME GRADE, BUT HOW MANY ARE IN THE CASE? 60? I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          I WANNA SAY IT'S 6 48. 
          48. 
          I WANNA SAY IT'S EIGHT SHEETS. 
          FOUR. 
          IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT FOR THAT. 
          SHE'S 24, 0 8 OF 24. 
          A LOT OF IT CAN DOUBLE CHECK. 
          IT'S A LOT. 
          'CAUSE MANY CASES ARE ON DIFFERENT SIZES TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT UM, IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY SHIP US. 
          WHERE DOES CISCO GET ITS PRODUCT? THEY GET IT FROM ALL OVER. 
          SO THEY HAVE DISTRIBUTORS THAT DELIVER TO THEM ON A DAILY BASIS FROM FARMS FROM CALIFORNIA TO MEXICO TO YOU NAME IT. 
          WHEREVER THEY CAN GET, WHEREVER THEY CAN GET THE PRODUCT FROM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING FROM THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT EGGS COST WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE. 
          AND SO IF IT'S A $5 INCREASE AND YOU HAVE TWO EGGS ON YOUR PLATE, IT'S, IT'S NOT TWO, $3 AN EGG RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY BIG INCREASE FOR WHAT AN EGG COSTS AND HOW MANY EGGS ARE IN. 
          I GOT THAT BIG RESTAURANT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? CHICKENS. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          UM, LORI, PLEASE CALL THE FOR THE VOTE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          VICE-CHAIR INGS? YES. 
          MEMBER LY? YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON? YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT? YES. 
          MEMBER DIMITRI? YES. 
          MEMBER MALLER? YES. 
          MEMBER RICHIE? YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE 2025 EMERGENCY ON CALL LIST. 
          AND WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION HONKING SECOND. 
          AND BEFORE DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WHAT IS IT? ? THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TRICK. 
          AND NOW WITH THAT, WE'LL WE WILL, UH, WE'LL WE'LL HEAR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, UH, SO THIS IS A LIST OF PRE-APPROVED, UM, VENDORS THAT AMERICAN GOLF IS AUTHORIZED TO UTILIZE IN AN EMERGENCY CIP PROJECT. 
          UM, JUST HAVING THEM ON FILE ALREADY SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN EMERGENCIES ARISE AND IT BECOMES A CIP, UM, FUNDED PROJECT. 
          THEN, UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE APPROVED, UH, UH, VENDORS WHO ARE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETTED. 
          AND SO, UM, RATHER THAN HAVING TO TAKE THREE DAYS AND GET THREE QUOTES, THEN THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS, UM, THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND SO YOU SEE HERE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHEN THEY MIGHT, WHEN THEY MIGHT CALL ON THESE EMERGENCY VENDORS, UM, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THE, UM, THREE BID PROCESS. 
          SO WE LIKE TO HAVE THIS ON FILE AND WE JUST, UH, GET IT APPROVED ONCE A YEAR. 
          UM, GENERALLY AT OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON FILE. 
          SO THE SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO, THE, THE CAPITAL EXPENSE FUNDS WERE ALWAYS CONTROLLED BY THE CITY. 
          SO AMERICAN GOLF PAYS FOR EVERYTHING UP FRONT AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED AFTER THE PROJECT'S OVER. 
          AND SOMETHING CHANGED WITH THE CITY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO THAT SAID, WELL IF IT'S CITY CONTROLLED FUND, YOU HAVE TO USE PREVAILING WAGE CONTRACTORS. 
          FINDING PREVAILING WAGE CONTRACTORS SOMETIMES AND EMERGENCY CAN BE A COMPLETE HEADACHE. 
          SO MM-HMM  THE BACKFLOW VALVE, FOR INSTANCE AT REC PARK FAILED ITS TEST 'CAUSE IT'S 35 YEARS OLD. 
          SO I COULD, I FOUND LITERALLY SEVEN CONTRACTORS AND CALLED SEVEN CONTRACTORS AND NOBODY ANSWERED THE PHONE. 
          NOBODY DID THAT WORK ANYMORE WHERE THEY WERE NO LONGER ON THAT DIR LIST. 
          SO WE FOUND ONE VENDOR THAT COULD DO IT AND TWO OTHERS JUST SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA BID. 
          IT ENDED UP BEING LIKE 23,000 OR SOMETHING, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS. 
          SO IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND THOSE EMERGENCY CONTRACTORS THAT CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW, A MAINLINE BREAKS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE. 
          I HAVE TO GET A PLUMBER OUT THERE RIGHT AWAY, UM, TO FIX THOSE THINGS. 
          SO HAVING THIS EMERGENCY LIST, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THREE QUOTES, YOU KNOW, THE TREE THAT FELL IN THE MAINTENANCE YARD AT, AT REC PARK. 
          I HAVE TO GET THE TREE CLEANED UP FOR SAFETY. 
          I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET VENDORS OUT THERE AND GO FROM THERE. 
          BUT I HAD A TREE VENDOR THAT WAS ABLE TO COME OUT AND GET THAT TREE OUT OF THE WAY FOR SAFETY BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE WAS, WAS, WAS POTENTIALLY TO GET HURT. 
          UM, BUT THEN WE TURNED AROUND AND GOT THREE QUOTES TO FIX THE BUILDING 'CAUSE WE HAD TIME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAD TO GET THE TREE OUT OF THERE. 
          SO HAVING THIS LIST OF VENDORS, I, I DELETED SOME GUYS THAT AREN'T IN BUSINESS OR WE JUST FOUND BETTER VENDORS. 
          UM, THESE HAVE ALL BEEN VENDORS THAT HAVE GIVEN US GOOD PRICING THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THAT WE WORKED WITH FOR YEARS AND THEY'VE BEEN VETTED, UM, AS LORI SAID. 
          SO HAVING THIS LIST REALLY DOES HELP US A LOT. 
          WHEN, WHEN AND IF THOSE EMERGENCIES DO COME UP, I'D SAY THERE'S PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE A YEAR THAT, THAT, UM, THAT IT DOES COME UP. 
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YEAH. 
          IDEALLY WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING OUR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO GET THREE QUOTES. 
          UM, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN APPROVAL PROCESS AND THIS STILL GOES THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, LIKE INTERNALLY. 
          IT'S JUST, UM, ALLOWING THEM TO IMMEDIATELY CONTRACT WITH THESE SPECIFIC, UM, VENDORS. 
          THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THE CIP OVERALL DISCUSSION IS THE MINIMUM CIP WENT TO 5,000. 
          I DUNNO IF EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT, BUT NOW THE MINIMUM FOR A CIP PROJECT IS $5,000. 
          WHAT'S CIP? THAT'S THE, THE FUNDS THAT WE DO FOR THE TEAS AND BATHROOM REMODELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, LORI, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE. 
          YES. 
          UM, CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          VICE CHAIR CON? YES. 
          MEMBER ILEY? YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON? YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT? YES. 
          MEMBER RY. 
          YOU MEMBER MEIER? YES. 
          MEMBER RICCI? YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THAT MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEES. 
          DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? SO MOVE MOTION FROM RICHIE AND A SECOND FROM BARRETT AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE? UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DID HAVE AN ITEM ALREADY FROM THE FEES AND CHARGES AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE HAVING BEEN CREATED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ANY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS MEETING. 
          NO, NO, NO ONE ELSE MET. 
          WE DO HAVE ONE MORE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT IS CURRENTLY ACTIVE. 
          UM, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THEM TO BE DISSOLVED OF IT THIS TIME. 
          THAT'S THE, UM, GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL UPDATE, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEE. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE PLANNING ON MEETING SOON. 
          UM, SO I GUESS WE WOULD ASK THAT, UH, WE DISSOLVE THE FEES AND CHARGES AD HOC COMMITTEE AND, UM, YEAH, AND MAKE NO OTHER CHANGES AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD ANY IN THE MEANTIME EITHER. 
          OKAY, VERY GOOD. 
          SO WE ARE, THIS IS PART OF THE NEW PROCESS. 
          SO WE CREATED THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE FEES AND CHARGES RECOMMENDATION, AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER DISSOLVING THE AD HOC FEES AND CHARGES COMMITTEE UNTIL WE WOULD NEED IT ONCE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? NO. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT IF, WHAT IF THE CHARGES GO DOWN LIKE BEFORE JULY? WOULD WE THEN HAVE TO CREATE ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE TO GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS IT OR NOT? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CEILING IS THE CEILING, SO IT CAN ALWAYS GO BELOW THE CEILING THAT HAS BEEN OR WILL BE APPROVED. 
          IT'S, IT'S ONLY TO GO BEYOND WHAT THE CEILING WOULD BE. 
          UM, OKAY, SO WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          SO WE'VE, WE WILL RECEIVE AND FILE THE, UH, AND, AND THEN WE ARE TAKING ACTION TO DISSOLVE THE AD HOC FEES AND CHARGES COMMITTEE FOR YES, 2025. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES. 
          VICE CHAIR CONING? YES. 
          MEMBER ILEY? YES. 
          MEMBER ANDERSON? YES. 
          MEMBER BARRETT? YES. 
          MEMBER DI YES. 
          MEMBER MEIER? YES. 
          MEMBER ? YES. 
          MEMBER YOUNG? YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT WERE NOT OTHERWISE ON THE AGENDA AND WE DO HAVE, UH, AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM CRAIG KESSLER. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL STAND UP. 
           LER, CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR GOLF. 
          I JUST WANT TO CLAR ADD A LITTLE INFORMATION TO SOMETHING THAT GARY REFERENCED BRIEFLY IN HIS, ONE OF HIS MANY REPORTS. 
          AND THAT IS THERE IS A BILL ACTIVE IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR, SENATE BILL 51 THAT WOULD TAKE CALIFORNIA TO PERMANENT STANDARD TIME. 
          SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD, SO NO MORE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, STANDARD TIME YEAR ROUND. 
          THAT'D BE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE GOLF INDUSTRY. 
          HUGE IMPACT ON THE REVENUE HERE IN LONG BEACH. 
          PROBABLY IN WAYS THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WITH JUNIOR PROGRAMS AND ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A VERY SHORT, THEY HAVE TO PLAY WHEN THEY PLAY AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA ADJUST THE TIMES OF SCHOOL TO ADJUST TO THIS. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO CROWD OUT MORE FULL PAYING CUSTOMERS TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT WITHOUT ANY ROOM AT THE BACK END TO DO IT. 
          AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS DESPITE YOUR LIGHTS, YOU CAN GET A WHOLE LOT OF PLAY AT FOUR IN THE MORNING TO GO OUT MORE AT SEVEN OR 8 51. 
          SO I'M HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR CHAIR AND I DID STARE DOWN THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO 
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AND HIS OFFICE IN SACRAMENTO AND HE STARED RIGHT BACK AT US. 
          SO HE INTENT ON MOVING THIS, UM, OUR ONLY AS OPPOSED TO MANY OF THE BILLS IN RECENT YEARS THAT I'LL, I'LL SAY WE KILL, THIS ONE'S PROBABLY EASIER EXCEPT THERE'S SO MUCH ELSE GOING ON. 
          EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AT A NATIONAL LEVEL AND I THINK THAT EVEN IN THE STATE LEVEL, I MEAN 13,000 HOUSEHOLDS DON'T HAVE HOUSES RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THAT'S ON TOP OF A HOUSING SHORTAGE. 
          THAT WAS PRETTY CRITICAL BEFORE THEN. 
          AN AFFORDABILITY PROBLEM AND A STATE BUDGET THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAYS IS ALREADY IN ARREARS. 
          AND SO WITH ALL OF THAT, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN SLIDE THROUGH. 
          THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE AND THIS YEAR I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS. 
          I THINK YOU ALSO ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT SOMETHING CAME UP FROM THE FCJ AND THE CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR GOLF. 
          SO IT'S IN TWO PLACES ON THAT WEBSITE FAIRLY PROMINENT ON THE HOMEPAGE. 
          THE SECOND ITEM RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE DETAIL, IT IS SURPRISINGLY FOR SOMETHING SO SEEMINGLY SIMPLE FLIPPING THE CLOCKS. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY COMPLICATED POLITICAL AND LEGAL ISSUE. 
          AND, UM, I HOPE IT DOESN'T GET TO THIS, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO CONTACT YOUR MEMBER OF THE ASSEMBLY OF THE SENATE SHOULD THIS CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          SO STAY TUNED. 
          THANKS FOR MENTION MEN MENTIONING IT IN BETWEEN ALL THOSE COMPARISONS TO A MARKET,  COUNTY CONTROL OF WHICH I FOUND FASCINATING. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SO THE THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND NOW YOU'RE BEING ON ALERT TO WATCH FOR IT. 
          SHOULD SOMETHING COME OUT FROM PROBABLY OL THE CITY AND I HOPE THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IS ENGAGED AND OPENED UP SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY. 
          THIS AFFECTS THE DEPARTMENT YOU WORK FOR CONSIDERING MORE THAN GOLF. 
          ALTHOUGH IF YOU'RE LIKE THE COUNTY OF , THE REVENUE THE CITY RECEIVES FROM ITS GOLF PROGRAMS PRETTY IMPORTANT. 
          IT, THE REVENUE FLOWS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN IT, IT FLOWS TO THEIR DEPARTMENT THERE AND HERE, NOT SO MUCH. 
          AND THAT'S A SORE POINT AND I WISH THAT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT IT STILL FLOWS TO THE GENERAL COFFERS OF THE CITY AND IT WOULD BE A BLOW TO A LOT OF OTHER PROGRAMS THAT MAY NOT BE REVENUE GENERATORS, BUT THEY'RE AS IMPORTANT IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY FOR YOUTH AND THAT SOCCER AND BASEBALL AND THOSE, THOSE OTHER THINGS, EVEN PICKLEBALL. 
          BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM. 
          ,  AGAIN. 
          SO THANKS AND, UH, KEEP IT ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I'LL JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF. 
          MY NAME IS JOEY ZO. 
          I WORK OVER AT LONG BEACH UTILITIES. 
          I WORK IN THEIR WATER RESOURCES AND GAS RESOURCES HERE, HEALTH. 
          UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT THIS MEETING, SO THANKS FOR WELCOMING ME, WELCOMING ME, AND, UM, I'M SURE I'LL BE TALKING TO SOMEBODY, YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          AND YOU'RE A GOLFER TOO. 
          OH YEAH. 
          I LOVE GOLF . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 
          UM, OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS, MEMBERS AND STAFF. 
          ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AS WE, UH, WRAP THIS MEETING UP? OKAY. 
          SEEING NONE, THERE'S NO OBJECTION. 
          I WILL DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:19 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MONDAY, ARE YOU GOING IN.
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