* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. THANKS FOR BEING IN FOR YOUR PATIENCE. MATTHEW PETERSON. HERE. JAN. CHRONIC GAP HERE. DEBORAH CASTRO. [CALL TO ORDER] HERE. JEFFREY KZA. HERE. DAVID LINK HERE. AARON ANI. HERE WE HAVE QUORUM. AWESOME. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, WE HAVE A, A FAIRLY SMOOTH VIEW THIS MORNING. UH, JUST OPENING IT UP. UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF UPDATES, UH, FOR COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE, UH, TWO BIG BELLIES, UH, ARE GONNA HIT THE STREETS HERE, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. UH, THESE REPLACE SOME ANTIQUATED AND SOME DAMAGED UNITS. UH, THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE OFFICE OF SUSTAIN SUSTAINABILITY, UH, ALONG WITH THREE TREES, UH, THAT WORD IS IN. UH, AND THOSE SHOULD BE INSTALLED, UH, SOMETIME IN THE NEXT, I GUESS, 30 DAYS. UH, AND THOSE WILL REPLACE, UH, SOME DAMAGED, UH, OR DEAD UNITS THAT ARE ON THE STREET. UH, AND THOSE WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER, UH, MATERIAL THAT, UH, OCCURS TO SHORE. UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THE, UH, SECURITY. UH, AND WE HAVE A, UH, CONTRACT THAT RUNS THROUGH SEPTEMBER, UH, OF THIS YEAR. UH, AND THEN WE WILL LIKELY, UH, DO AN RFB, UH, FOR A NEW VENDOR TO COME IN AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, VENDOR. UH, AND THAT WOULD ALSO, I WOULD IMAGINE, INCLUDE CURRENT VENDOR IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO SUBMIT. UH, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONTINUANCE OF SECURITY, UH, IN THE DISTRICT. WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MAKE THE HOURS, UH, WORK FOR BUDGET. UH, AND, UH, I THINK, UH, PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT'S A GOOD CONCEPT. IT'S GONNA BE GOOD PROGRAM. UH, IT'S BEEN EMBRACED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UH, I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT, UH, NOT ONLY TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THE SUPPORT, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONERS NOW, UH, NOT ONLY ON SECURITY, BUT UH, SOME OTHER MATTERS THAT YOU WANNA CHAT ABOUT BEFORE WE, UH, AND THEN I'M GONNA MAKE A, UH, A REQUEST, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONERS IF THERE'S, UH, ANYTHING ADDITIONALLY, UH, YOU WANT TO WORK ON, UH, WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO HERE. UM, NEW ENTHUSIASM FOR, UH, LET'S GET TOGETHER AND MOVE THESE THINGS TOGETHER. UH, ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND. NOW, LET'S, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET INTO CALENDAR. COMMISSIONER. WELL, THANK YOU. THIS IS COMMISSIONER CASTRO, AND MY COMMENT WOULD BE, SECURITY IS A HIGHEST PRIORITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR ACROSS THE BOARD. SO I'M COMPLETELY IN FAVOR TO GO TO KEEP, KEEP SECOND STREET THRIVING AND SAFE, AND KEEP THE RESIDENTS SAFE AS WELL. THAT AND THE VISITORS HAVE SHOP HERE. AND, UH, THAT, THAT BE NUMBER ONE THING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT BEAUTIFICATION. 'CAUSE WE HAVE NOT ONLY NOW, BUT FORWARD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO BECOME A DESTINATION. AND WE ALREADY ARE A DESTINATION FOR ALL PARTS OF LONG BEACH, BOTH RESIDENTS WHO COME HERE TO ENJOY IT AT SECOND STREET ON THE WEEKENDS. BUT BEYOND THAT, UH, WE HAVE LOT VISITORS THAT COME HERE, YOU KNOW, FROM OUT OF TOWN. AND THAT WILL BE MORE HIGH PROFILE AS TIME GOES ON. SO, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO INVEST IN THE BEAUTIFICATION STRUCTURE, WHICH IS OUR, ONE OF OUR MANDATES, UM, TO MAKE SECOND STREET LOOK AS GOOD AS IT CAN, AND BE AS WELCOMING AS IT CAN FOR EVERYONE, FOR EVERYONE'S ENJOYMENT. AND THAT COULD MEAN LIGHTING, THAT COULD MEAN OTHER KINDS OF SIGNAGE. UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO EXPLORE IF WE WANT TO REALLY STEP IT UP AND BE RECOGNIZED AS OUR OWN BUSINESS DISTRICT IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE GRAVITATE HERE AND REPEAT BUSINESS AND WANNA STAY HERE. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER ANI. UH, YEAH, COMMISSIONER ANI SPEAKING. AND, UM, I, ON THE SECURITY NOTE, I THINK, UH, I HAD GONE BACK AND FORTH ON IT OVER TIME. AND MORE AND MORE I STUDIED IT AND LOOKED INTO IT. THE BENEFITS HAVE BEEN PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN TALKING TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE TOO. AND, UM, WE ALL SEE HOW MANY BREAK-INS THERE ARE ACROSS THE, THE TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE BEING BROKEN INTO [00:05:01] MULTIPLE TIMES TO GET THE DOORS BIG, ALL THE, ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEN THE ONE BENEFIT I HAVE SEEN MOST OF IS THAT IN THE NIGHT, THE NIGHT PATROL IS ACTUALLY SUPER IMPORTANT WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T HERE. 'CAUSE IT KEEPS THE ELEMENTS, THE, THE MISCHIEF MOVING AROUND AND IT KEEPS IT FROM PLANTING IN. I, AT MY BUILDING, I USED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON CAMPING OUT ALMOST EVERY DAY, EVERY MORNING WHEN I'D GO THERE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. AND WE HAD ALL KINDS OF ISSUES WITH PEOPLE BREAKING IN AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND I, IN THE NIGHTTIME, AND SINCE WE STARTED THE SECURITY, I HAVE SEEN A TREMENDOUS DECREASE, ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYBODY IN THE MORNING HOURS WHEN I WOULD COME THAT HAD CAMPED OUT ALL NIGHT AND WAS LIKE, MAKING THEMSELVES COMFORTABLE. SO ON THE SECURITY NOTE, I THINK THE VALUE OF IT, I LIKE IT DURING THE DAY. PEOPLE CAN SEE IT AND FEEL SAFE AND ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS, AND THEY CAN ADDRESS ISSUES. THEY'VE COME TO HELP US AT THE PIZZA SHOP MANY TIMES WITH, UH, UNRULY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WITH POSSIBLY MENTAL ISSUES GOING ON AND DRUGS, WHO KNOWS WHAT. BUT, UM, THE NIGHTTIME ONE IS VERY EFFECTIVE, EVEN IF JUST FOR A COUPLE HOURS OF NIGHT, JUST THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT THE MISCHIEF COSMIC, THEY KNOW NOW, AND THEY DON'T, THEY AVOID THAT. SO, BUT, UH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THAT, UH, NOTHING ELSE TO REALLY ADD, LIKE, LIKE LIGHTING FLOWERS, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFICATION IS GREAT TOO, BUT, UH, I'M GOOD. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'S AWESOME. UH, COMMISSIONER ZER, UH, COMMISSIONER ZER SPEAKING. UM, I'M ACTUALLY VERY, VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE SECURITY IS GONNA BE, UM, A SERVICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT KEEPING. UM, I'VE PERSONALLY HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH OF BIT, KIND OF LIKE, LIKE AARON HAS. UM, AND THEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, HAVE REALLY GROWN TO APPRECIATE THAT FOR WHAT WE HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO PREFACE THAT STATEMENT WITH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT, UM, IT'S NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM OR SERVICE. UM, BUT THE REALITIES OF THE DEFICIENCIES WITHIN THE, UH, LBPD AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE A SUFFICIENT SERVICE DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, DUE TO THEIR LACK OF NUMBERS, UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING. UM, AND I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD PERSONALLY SO FAR THIS YEAR I'VE CALLED THEM, OR MY BUSINESS HAS CALLED THEM FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, AND WE'RE ONLY IN MARCH. UM, THERE WAS ONE WEEK ACTUALLY WHERE WE HAD TWICE IN THAT SAME WEEK. UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER BUSINESSES IN OUR BUILDING, AND THEY'VE CALLED ALSO RE THIS YEAR A COUPLE TIMES. SO THAT'S JUST ONE LOCATION THAT'S HAD LIKE 10 CALLS. UM, SO YEAH, IT IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT HOPEFULLY, UH, IMPROVING THOSE DEFICIENT AREAS WITHIN THE SERVICE? ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S PERFECT, BUT I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE IT, AND VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT A PRIORITY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. UH, COMMISSIONER LINK. UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER LANE SPEAKING. UM, AT, UH, PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE HAD, UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE COST VERSUS THE BENEFIT, UM, OF SECURITY. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, SOME UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WAS, THAT BALANCE. HOW WAS THAT, THAT CONSIDER OR, UH, WE, I'D SAY THAT THAT'S A MOVING TARGET. UH, BUT INITIALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE, UH, SCALED HOURS, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE COST EFFECTIVE. UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR TO, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN'T PRODUCE THE SAME LEVEL OF PROTECTION WHILE WE'RE USING HOURS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING VALVES OUT. UH, RIGHT AFTER, UH, SOME CRITICAL ISSUES OCCURRED IN THE DISTRICT, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. UH, WE REACTED AFTER MEETING WITH PD AND CITY LEADERS, UH, AND THE BSBA AND DECIDED TO ADD OUR TO THE MIX AS A REACTION TO THAT. UH, NIGHTTIME HOURS TWO. UH, SO WE'VE CHANGED SOME OF THOSE HOURS, AND THEN WE'RE [00:10:01] GOING FROM A ONE TOP OR TWO TOP TO A ONE TOP PATROL, UM, AND GAUGE, OH, INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF TWO, UH, GUARDS AT ONE TIME, WE'RE GONNA DROP DOWN TO ONE CERTAIN HOUR. SO THAT WILL SAVE, UH, SOME LABOR HOURS. UH, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, TO, UH, HELP WITH THE BUDGETING, UH, TWO STRAINTS THAT WE'RE LIVING WITHIN. AND, UH, UNTIL WE SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS OR DIRECTIONS, UH, WE HAVE TO LEARN TO ECONOMIZE MORE, UH, TO LIVE THAN OUR, OUR, OUR BUDGET SEEMS. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE, SO THERE, THERE WAS COMPROMISE THERE, THERE IS, THERE, THERE IS. AND THERE, THERE WAS. AND THERE IS, YES. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE COMPANY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, UH, FIT WITHIN, UH, THE SCOPE, UH, THAT THEIR SCOPE OF WORK FITS. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, IS IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT, UH, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT, THAT CSI ALSO, UH, PROTECTS VALUABLE CITY ASSETS THAT ARE IN THIS DISTRICT. UH, THEY PROTECT METERS. THEY PROTECT, UH, PAY STATIONS. THEY PROTECT PARKING LOTS. THEY PROTECT, UH, CAMERA, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE CITY PHONES. UH, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT CSI DOES. AND THEIR SCOPE OF WORK IS TO PROTECT THOSE VALUE OF CITY ASSETS. THANK YOU, MR. GA. JAN, GA. WELL, I, I AM ON THIS COMMISSION, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'M A RESIDENT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SECURITY. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE, CONTINUE AND DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WE NEED IT. I'VE SEEN A DIFFERENCE. I WALK A LOT ON THE SHORE AND I'VE SEEN A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS PROJECTS, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I'M OVER THE GRADES. I DON'T WANT SEE THE PRODUCT THAT HEATHER HAD FOUND THAT I THINK WOULD, WOULD LOOK NICE. EVEN THE GRADES ARE HAPPENING BROKEN. I KEEP SAYING THEY'RE A LIABILITY. IF SOMEONE FALLS, WE'RE GONNA GET SUED. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, OR AT LEAST WORK ON IT. AND LASTLY, THE SIGN, WE HAVE PUT IN A TON OF WORK AND TIME, AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT COME TO PASS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND THE OLYMPICS ARE COMING, AND WE WANT THE SHORE TO LOOK AS NICE AS THEY CAN. AND THAT WILL HELP. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, SO COMMISSIONERS, MUCH APPRECIATED. UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS A, IS A, AS A BODY HERE, I REALLY THINK, UH, UH, WE HOLD OUR END OF THE MARKET UP, UH, IN, UH, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, UH, SPEARHEADING HERE. UH, I THINK WE ADJUDICATE THE FUNDS COMING OUT OF THE METER, UH, IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT EFFORT. AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE GOING IN RIGHT DIRECTION. SO THAT'S THE SHERIFF'S REPORT THIS MORNING. APPRECIATE THAT. UH, REGULAR AGENDA RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR GO ON OFFSHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA, ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025. UH, MOTION PLEASE. MOTION JAN G UH, SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER, ZAT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. THANK YOU. UH, ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE LONG BEACH PUBLIC COURTS FINANCIAL REPORT, UH, DISCUSSION REVENUES DURING THE PERIOD ENDING FEBRUARY, UH, 2025. WE NEED A MOTION, PLEASE. MOTION JAN. GAP. SECOND COMMISSIONER. FASTER. UH, SO, UH, RYAN, WE GO PAGE, PAGE SEVEN. UM, TILE PAGE IS BELMONT SHORE PARKING METER FUND SUMMARY. UM, NO, PAGE. PAGE FIVE. FIVE. YOU THINK IT'S FIVE? YEAH. PAGE FIVE. UM, SO BILL MAHO PARKING METER FUND SUMMARY, AS OF FEBRUARY 20, 28TH, WE HAD REVENUE IN $96,363. REVENUE IS UP 12% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR IN FEBRUARY. ON YEAR TO DATE REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 IS UP 13% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR, PUTTING [00:15:01] THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE AT $463,893. UH, ANYTHING, UH, JUMP OUT AT YOU, SIR? NOT, NOT AS OF RIGHT NOW. O OTHER THAN THE INCREASE IN, UH, INCREASE THAT WE DID IN OCTOBER TO $2 AN HOUR IS OBVIOUSLY MAKING A DIFFERENCE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. UM, HOPING THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE THIS TREND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY AT $515,000 IN REVENUE FOR THE YEAR. UM, WE ARE ALSO GEARING UP TO GO INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS, SO FINGERS CROSSED WE SEE, WE CONTINUE TO SEE THIS TREND OF UPWARD, UH, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE, UH, INCREASE. ALRIGHT. UM, AND IS THERE ANY NEED TO GRANULARLY GO THROUGH, UH, PAGE SIX. WE'LL OPEN UP THIS SUBMISSION QUESTION. UH, COMMISSIONER ANI. OH, WE'RE OPENING NOW. SURE. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ANI. UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SECOND PAGE AND THANK YOU. THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND, UH, RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE CITY STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. AND, UH, IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST MEETING, I WASN'T HERE, I APOLOGIZE. BUT I'M LOOKING AT A BREAKDOWN OF OUR, THE PAGE. I'M LOOKING AS THE FISCAL 25 YEAR BUDGET. AND THE, DOES THE TOP LINE NUMBER, THE 1.3, IS THAT INCLUDE THE PROJECTED INCOME, INCLUDING THE METER INCREASE? YES. OKAY. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE PRETTY MUCH WE'RE, WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THEN THAT, THAT DARN LANDSCAPING NUMBER, JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT THAT'S THE CONSERVATION COURT, I'M ASSUMING INCREASE. THIS IS THE DAILY QUARTER SERVICE THAT WE KNOW IN JUNE IT'S GOING INCREASE AT LEAST, UH, THREE XX FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY ENJOY. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING YEAH. UH, THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF STRESS. RIGHT, RIGHT. BECAUSE MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT ON ONE HAND, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE METERS GO UP ANYMORE ON A DEAL TALKING TO THE CUSTOMERS. AND PEOPLE ARE JUST, THEY KINDA GET ANNOYED, YOU KNOW, FEELING THEY'RE GETTING FEED UP AND IT'S JUST, OH, IT'S $2 NOW. AND IT JUST, IT'S BEEN CHANGING PRETTY RAPIDLY OVER, OVER TIME. AND I KNOW WE KIND OF HAVE TO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOT RAISE 'EM FOR A LITTLE WHILE. BUT I SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROJECTED DEFICIT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ACCORDING TO A BUDGET. AND WE'RE 300,000 MORE FOR THE LANDSCAPES FOR THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT ALSO ENCOMPASSES THE, WELL, THE PRESSURE WASHING THAT'S GONNA BE INCORPORATED INTO, SO THAT 74 WILL GO AWAY. THAT, THAT 74 IS THE REMAINDER OF THE, UH, TERM THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT PRESSURE WASHING. OH. SO THAT'S, IT'S ABSORBED INTO THE OVERALL SERVICE OF THE NEW VENDOR. IS THE BUDGET DUPLICATED? SO IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE A, IS IT A EFFECT? WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR ORIGINAL PRESSURE WASHING FOR ABOUT UNTIL JUNE, AND THEN ONCE JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER START, THAT'S GONNA GO, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA GO AWAY, BUT BE ADDED ONTO THE LANDSCAPING SERVICE, WHICH IS ON HERE. THAT'S THE ESTIMATED NUMBER THAT WE'LL, WE'LL MOST LIKELY HAVE. YEAH, JUST IF IT WAS 2 36 4, 525. NOW THIS IS STILL A, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THINK IF, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT? THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THING, YOU KNOW. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN AROUND THE RFP PROCESS. IS THAT, HAS THAT BEEN COMPLETED? IT IS, IT IS. UH, IT'S IN PROCESS AND THAT'S ALL WE CAN SAY. UM, 'CAUSE I, I, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN I WAS HERE, WE WERE ASKING ABOUT THE RFP AND IT HAD BEEN OUT FOR A YEAR AND IT STILL HADN'T HAD ANY PROGRESS. IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THE RFP FOR LANDSCAPING SERVICES IN PORTER SERVICES? IT'S IN PROCESS. WE DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE YET. WHAT DOES ONE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT COMPLETE THE PROCESS? IT IS GOING WITH THE CENTRAL PURCHASING TEAM. UH, THE CENTRAL PURCHASING TEAM HAS TO GO THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THE PROPOSALS AND SEE HOW IT ADHERES TO WHAT THE RFP SCOPE OF WORK WAS ASKING FOR. AND THEN THERE'S, UH, OTHER, OTHER ITEMS THAT I'M NOT QUITE AWARE OF BECAUSE IT'S WITH CENTRAL PURCHASING AND THAT'S THEIR AREA. OH, IT'S JUST A, I'M SORRY. I'M JUST GONNA TAKE MY TIME AND GO THROUGH THIS. 'CAUSE I'M LIKE, KIND OF MY BLOOD'S KIND OF BOILING ABOUT THIS. 'CAUSE WE'RE BEING PUT IN THIS POSITION WHERE, UM, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION AND IT'S NOT OF ANY FAULT OF OUR OWN. AND SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR [00:20:01] TO THERE, THERE IS AN RFP PROCESS. IN, IN PROCESS. THERE ARE VENDORS THAT ARE RESPONDING TO THE RFP AND NOW IT'S, IT'S AT A POINT IN THE CITY WHERE, UH, IT, THE PROCESS IS GONNA COME TO FRUITION. UH, OVER THE NEXT PROBABLY I'D SAY A QUARTER OR PROBABLY BEFORE THAT. CAN WE GET AN UPDATE ON THAT IN THE AGENDA FOR NEXT, NEXT MONTH AND HAVE IT ON THERE EVERY MONTH? I WANT TO KNOW. IT'S, IT'S THE POINT NOW WHERE THE CITY HAS IT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THAT THEY LET US KNOW. WELL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO AS A, AS A CITIZEN OR ANYBODY TO PUT PRESSURE ON SOMEBODY TO HELP THEM PUSH THE BUTTON TO MAKE IT GO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT PATH WOULD BE. IS THAT A, DO I TALK TO THE MAYOR? DO I TALK TO THE COUNCIL PERSON? BECAUSE I'M THERE, THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT HAVE RESPONDED TO THE RFP. YOU WITH ME SO FAR? THEY'VE RESPONDED TO THE RFP, MEANING IT'S ALMOST TO THE END OF PROCESS. WELL, I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT FOR A LONG TIME AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT UNTIL I SEE IT. SO I WANT TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA. AND I WANT TO, I WANT TO, I WANNA KNOW WHAT I CAN DO TO MAKE IT NOT TAKE THREE MONTHS TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THE BUDGET. AND THEN JUST WANNA SEE, HAVE US HAVE SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THAT NUMBER. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. I'LL STOP THERE. UNDERSTOOD. YES. COMMISSIONER CASTRO IS THE 4 48 FOR THE LAND ESCAPING SERVICES IN APPROXIMATELY. AND IS THAT, IS THAT FOR THIS YEAR? ONLY BECAUSE CONSIDERING THAT IF IT WOULD TAKE OVER, THIS IS FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO TO A MONTH TO MONTH WITH CONSERVATION COURT TO, 'CAUSE THEY CAME OUT OF CONTRACT AND THEY'RE EXTENDING TO ALLOW THE CITY TO GO THROUGH THE RIP PROCESS TO DROP A NEW VENDOR IN, WHICH, WHICH GOES IN IN JUNE. SO IS THIS A SIMILAR NUMBER THAT WORKS? SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL NUMBER. IT'S GONNA GO UP. IT'LL BE HIGHER DECEMBER. YES. SO THAT'S A CONCERN. YES. THIS ISN'T REALLY, IT'S NOT ACCURATE IN TERMS OF ACCURATE. EXACTLY. YES. BUT WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD BE MORE YEP. GO AHEAD, JAN. GA UM, I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE PREPARED FOR, WELL, EVERYTHING IN OUR LIVES GOING UP IN BIG NUMBERS. AND THE FACT REMAINS, AND THIS IS TO YOU ERIN, THAT WE WERE GETTING A REALLY GREAT DEAL WITH CONSERVATION CORPS THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND UNTIL WE UNDERSTOOD IT. AND SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE NOW HAVE TO HIRE A NEW VENDOR, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY COST NO MATTER WHAT. AND THAT IS OUR PRIORITY THOUGH, TO GET SOMEBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THE SHOULDER. YEAH. IT THIS MAKE SURE, DEFINE SPEAKING. AND I GUESS I WANT TO, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS NOT JUST ACCEPT THIS AND ROLL OVER. I WOULD LIKE TO US TO PUT OUR HEADS HERE AND THINK ABOUT IT. WHAT CAN WE AUGMENT WITH ANOTHER GOOD DEAL FROM SOME, WE GOTTA BE, WE GOTTA GET CREATIVE BECAUSE IF, IF WE DON'T, WE WOULD RUN OUTTA MONEY AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES AND SECURITY AND EVERYTHING THAT OUR, SO VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'VE ALL WITNESSED. SO, 'CAUSE IT SAYS LANDSCAPING SERVICES IS LIKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRACTOR. CAN, CAN WE SEE THE SCOPE OF WORK? CAN WE SEE THE RP? BECAUSE I, I DON'T, I MEAN MAYBE I CAN LOOK IT UP ONLINE. IS THAT AVAILABLE ONLINE? RYAN, CAN I CHECK ON THAT? IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE. YEAH. OKAY. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO EMAIL IT TO ME TO MAKE IT MY LIFE EASIER? YOU EMAIL IT TO ALL OF US. YEAH, PLEASE. IS THAT LIKE, MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF RETHINK, GET CREATIVE ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. I NEED TO LOOK THROUGH THAT, BUT LIKE, TAKING OUT THE TRASH IS ONE THING. SO I, I'VE GOTTA I'VE GOTTA INTERJECT HERE. AND I, I I, I DON'T WANT THIS TO SOUND THE WAY IT'S GONNA SOUND, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, UM, WE'VE DISCUSSED, THE COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSED THESE THINGS CONSISTENTLY, UH, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS. AND THERE, THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A LOT OF FORWARD MOVEMENT ON THE RFP PROCESS, I'M SURE. UH, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN LOTS OF MEETINGS, UH, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. UM, SCOPE OF WORK, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, SCOPE OF WORK FOR CONSERVATION CORPS. WE HAD CONSERVATION CORPS HERE, UH, AT EVERY MEETING, UH, FOR THE LAST YEAR. UH, TALKING ABOUT SCOPE OF WORK AND ANSWERING [00:25:01] QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. UM, THERE IS NOTHING, UH, HERE TODAY THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED LAST MONTH, THE MONTH BEFORE, THE MONTH BEFORE THAT, THE MONTH BEFORE THAT, UH, THERE'S NO, UH, THERE'S NOTHING HIDDEN HERE. UH, THERE'S NOTHING IN MY OPINION, UH, THAT IS TAKING LONGER THAN OTHER, UH, PROCESSES THAT THE CITY ARE TAKING. UH, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT, UH, COME JUNE, WE WILL HAVE A NEW VENDOR IN PLACE. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AND IT'S BEEN A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN PUBLIC FOR, UH, HOW, WHEN WAS THE RFP RELEASED? BRIAN? OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. YEAH. OCTOBER, 2020. SO THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG HERE. WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT EVERY SINGLE PARKING PORTION MEETING. OKAY. WELL, I, I DISAGREE THAT IT HAS GONE ANY KIND OF, BECAUSE WE STARTED A YEAR AGO AND IT ONLY WENT OUT IN OCTOBER. SO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TRY AND LOOK BACK, TRY TO LOOK FORWARDS. AND I JUST, IF I, IF WE'RE GOING INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE SIGNING CONTRACT IN JUNE THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. THAT SAID, JUST, I I, I, I DISAGREE WITH WELL, YOU'VE GOTTA ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WE'RE NOT GONNA SIGN ANYTHING PUBLIC WORKS SAYS. YEAH. UH, THIS COMMISSION ONLY RECOMMENDS RECOMMEND COMMISSION RECOMMENDED. I WOULD GUESS THAT, DO WE HAVE, SO WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE RFPS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE RESPONSES? OR DO WE NOT HAVE THAT PROCESS IS ALREADY COMPLETED. BE CLEAR. SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SELECTED. NO, IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DONE. NOW. THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT HAVE RESPONDED, BUT I BELIEVE THE RFP IS CLOSED. MY, MY GUESS MY QUESTION OR REPHRASE IT IS WILL WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS AS A COMMITTEE BEFORE WE RECOMMEND, OR WE JUST, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE R FP. OKAY. AND IT WAS DECIDED HERE AT THIS TABLE AND THE RESPONSES FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS WERE COMPARED TO APPLE TO ORANGES. THE, THE GROUP THAT MET TO, TO WEIGH IN ON THE RFP, THE RESPONSES THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE RESPONSES TO THE RFP, THAT'S THE CITY DOES THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION. I'M ASKING DO WE GET TO SEE THE RESPONSES THAT COME IN SO WE CAN SEE WHAT EVERYBODY, THAT'S NOT THE RRP PROCESS. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS IN THE CITY. SO WE DON'T, AND I, AND PLEASE, I, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF HOW WE GET TO THE POINT OF WHICH WE HAVE A NEW CONTRACT. SO THANK YOU. GIVEN ONE DAY A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE A NEW MEMBER THAT WE DON'T HAVE LIKE YEAH. DETAIL ON. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, AT THE END OF THE END OF THE PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTED WITH A COMPANY THAT PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THROUGH THE RFP PROCESSING, VERY PUBLIC PROCESS HAS SELECTED. SO THEY'LL SELECT ONE AND THEN WE'LL JUST BE LET WE'LL BE INFORMED THAT WE HAVE A NEW ONE. THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A, A SAY IN IT. OKAY. WE DID, WE, WE SELECTED A COMMITTEE AND, AND THE COMMISSION SELECTED COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MET, UH, OVER SEVERAL MONTHS. AND THE PROCESS WENT THROUGH WHAT THE RFP PROCESS DOES AT EVERY CITY. UH, BUT IN THIS CITY, IT WENT EXACTLY AS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HEARING WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT ALL WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANOTHER TIME. I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP THE, UH, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IN THE NEXT, THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS, WE'LL HAVE A, YOU SAY THIS IS GONNA BE DONE IN, IN A QUARTER. SO THREE MONTHS. I'M JUST TRYING TO SET MY EXPECTATIONS RIGHT BEFORE I GO ON A, ON A CARE DOWNTOWN AND THEY TRY TO MOVE THINGS ALONG. CONSERVATION COURSE, MONTH TO MONTH CONTRACT ENDS IN JUNE. THEY WILL NOW PROVIDE SERVICES PAST JUNE. SO THE, THE, THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR TO PUBLIC WORKS. EITHER A NEW VENDOR IS IN PLACE OR PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA, IS GOING TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF SERVICES UNTIL A NEW VENDOR IS SELECTED. SO WILL THEY HAVE SELECTED ONE BY THE NEXT MEETING? NO. HOW ABOUT THE MEETING AFTER THAT? APRIL, MAY. SO WITH, I HOPE, YOU KNOW, AS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND RESTAURANT OPERATING ALSO STUFF, I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE SPEED AT WHICH THINGS LEAD THE CITY. THAT'S WHY I'M HYPERFOCUSED ON THIS. BUT EVERYBODY, TO BE PATIENT WITH MY, JUST WANTING TO KNOW ALL THE DETAILS BECAUSE I SEE A, A PROBLEM COMING BE SITTING HERE, NOT HAVE SERVICES IN JUNE AND BE FORCED INTO A RUSH DECISION INTO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T THINK IS, I, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. HOW LONG WILL THE CONTRACT BE ISSUED FOR? IS IT A LONG TERM THING OR? UH, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE YEAR TO YEAR, BUT IT COULD BE MULTI-YEAR. BUT, BUT I WILL DOUBT IT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE DETAILS. OKAY. [00:30:01] SO THE ETA IS MAY I'VE, SO YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS, UH, FOR ME THAT I THINK ARE IMPLICIT IN WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. UM, UH, UH, OUR ROLE HERE, UM, IS THAT WE ARE ADVISORY. THE CITY IS THE ONE WHO SIGNS THE CONTRACTS. THEY MAKE THE CONTRACTS, THEY ISSUE THE RFP. UM, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, THEY KNOW ALL OF THESE NUMBERS. RIGHT? UM, SO THEY'RE DECIDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS GOING TO USE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MADE CLEAR THE, UH, OUR, UH, COUNCILMAN'S REPRESENTATIVES USUALLY AT THE MEETINGS. AND THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF ALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD. YES. UM, SO THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE LOOP ON THE RFPS. WE, I'LL, I'LL CORRECT YOU. THIS COMMISSION HAS VERY MUCH BEEN IN THE LOOP BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION WAS ASKED TO, UH, FORM COMMITTEE TO HELP VET THE, THROUGH THE R FP PROCESS, THE COMPANIES THAT RESPONDED. UM, THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE, UH, BEFORE I WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE HAD ANY ROLE IN THAT 'CAUSE WE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE, UM, LIKE ANY OF THE BIDS THAT HAVE COME IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE RFP PROCESS, THE PROCESS THAT, THAT WE WERE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN FROM THIS COMMISSION IS TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH WE ASKED AT A MEETING. AND THERE WERE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SUBCOMMITTEE MET SEVERAL TIMES TO GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURES AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY TO AID IN THE SELECTION AND VETTING OF A NEW VENDOR POTENTIAL. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THAT SUBCOMMITTEE DID WHAT IT WAS ASKED. YOU MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY AND THE CITY NOW, THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS, WILL, WILL CHOOSE A VENDOR THAT FITS THE CRITERIA BASED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE, THE, THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, UH, THE VETTING PROCESS, UH, LICENSING, BONDING, SIZE, STRENGTH, EXPERIENCE, ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO SELECTING A VENDOR, UH, TO, UH, PERFORM UNDER A CONTRACT AS, AS WRITTEN AND PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE ICE. THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS SWORN BEFORE I JOINED. YEAH. BEFORE. SO, OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS THAT, THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION FROM RYAN, I GUESS IS, UM, THAT IS, IS THIS THE FIRST BUDGET THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THE REVENUE FROM THE INCREASED, UH, PARKING METER, UH, RATES? NO, WE'VE BEEN PRESENTING 'EM SINCE JANUARY. THIS IS, THIS IS, I BASED ON THE ESTIMATED INCREASE TO $2 AN HOUR. WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.3. OKAY. SO THAT IS CLEARLY, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE YEAR. YEAH. AS OF RIGHT NOW, FOR FEBRUARY, WE'RE AT $515,000 IN REVENUE, BUT THAT'S DURING THE SLOW MONTHS. MM-HMM . LAST YEAR WE MADE 1.1, ALMOST 1.2 MILLION. SO WITH THE INCREASE 25 CENTS PER HOUR, WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE GONNA ESTIMATE AT 1.3, UNLESS WE HAVE AN AMAZING SUMMER AND EVERYONE COMES AND EVERYTHING'S AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUP OCCUPANCY RATE. UM, BUT WE'RE MOST LIKELY LOOKING AT 1.3. THAT'S WHAT OUR, OUR THING IS. WE'LL HAVE, HAVE BETTER IDEAS OF THE SUMMER MONTHS COME IN, BUT THIS IS WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKED AS A, AS A COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND, UM, SERVICE CUTS , UH, TO FIT THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE AND STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF PAR SERVICES THAT, THAT WE PROVIDE WITH THE REVENUE THAT WE OVERSEE. THAT'S OVERSEE I IS THE IMPORTANT RIGHT THERE. WE DON'T SIGN, WE DON'T SIGN ANY, THAT'S ALL CITY. WE ADVISE TWO CITY COUNCIL. UH, AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT THIS, UH, UH, COMMISSION HAS BEEN, UH, ORGANIZED FROM, UH, 1971. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. YEP. UH, MR. KR. YEAH. COMMISSIONER KOZAR. UM, GOING BACK TO THE, THE LANDSCAPING SERVICES, IF WE GOT TO, WELL, RIGHT NOW, FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE AARON WAS PROJECTING, WE'RE PROBABLY AT MAY, MAYBE BEFORE THERE'S A NEW VENDOR IN [00:35:01] PLACE AND THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH GETTING THAT NEW VENDOR IN PLACE BY THAT TIME. PUBLIC WORKS WOULD PICK IT UP IN JUNE. I I, I, I WOULD HAVE TO, I WOULD HAVE TO IMPLORE MY LOGIC ON THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER BEEN IN A POSITION, UH, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT RATHER THAN GARBAGE PILING UP ON THE SIDEWALK, PUBLIC WORKS WOULD STEP IN OVER THAT SERVICES THAT THEY DO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. THE, THE CONTRACT THAT THAT IS AFFORDED THIS DISTRICT THROUGH THE REVENUE COLLECTION FROM PARKING LEADERS, UH, THROUGH AN ORDINANCE, UH, GIVES US THE, THE, UH, THE BROAD, UH, AUTHORIZATION TO, TO RECOMMEND IT TO CITY COUNCIL. THESE CONTRACTS, ONE OF 'EM, UH, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WAS CONSERVATION COURT. NOT OUR FAULT. THAT CONSERVATION COURT, UH, IS CHANGING WHAT THEY DO. UH, IT'S NOT THAT THEY GOT TIRED OF DOING QUARTER SERVICE IN BELMONT S OR THEY'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO US IN SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE SHIFTING THE FOCUS OF WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY'RE MOVING MORE TOWARDS CONSERVATION, UH, IN OTHER AREAS. THEY PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES IN THE CITY. UH, I THINK THEIR CONTRACT IS MULTIMILLION DOLLARS. UH, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE SHIFTING THEIR FOCUS FROM OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY OF RHODE, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. ALL I KNOW IS THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT, THAT COMPANY MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE OUT OF, UH, THAT DISCIPLINE BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING MORE INTO CONSERVATION. AND THEY SAID, WE WILL, WE WILL HELP YOU UNTIL A NEW VENDOR IS FOUND. THAT WAS THE EXTENSION TO JUNE, WHICH WE APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL HERE. UH, SO NO SURPRISE THERE. UH, AND THEN THE PROCESS TO FIND A NEW VENDOR BEGAN. NOW, I, I SHARE COMMISSIONER'S FRUSTRATION THAT THE RP PROCESS TAKES A LONG TIME. UH, I WISH IT, BUT I CAN'T CONTROL THAT THIS IS WHAT THE CITY DOES. RIGHT. AND, UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OBSTINATE, UH, TO ANYBODY IN THE ROOM BY SAYING I KNOW, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU. THERE ARE CERTAIN PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES, UH, THAT REQUIRE, UH, LET THE PROCESS DO WHAT THE PROCESS DOES. UH, THERE ARE WRITTEN PROCEDURES FOR RFPS. THEY'RE PUBLISHED, THEY'RE PUBLIC. UH, SO ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM CAN PULL UP PROCEDURES AND, UH, PROTOCOLS FOR, UH, UH, RESPONDING TO AN RFP, GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS. UH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT, THAT I CAN DO TO SPEED THAT. UH, IT'S, IT'S WHAT IT'S, UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT CONSERVATION CORPS IS FINITE AND THAT'S JUNE. RIGHT. AND IF A NEW VENDOR IS NOT IN PLACE BY JUNE, LOGICALLY COURSE IS GONNA STEP IN AND, AND, AND DO THE SERVICES THAT CONSERVATION COURT DO YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT DID OCCUR, DO YOU KNOW IF PUBLIC WORKS, IF THOSE SERVICES WOULD GO AGAINST OUR BUDGET? YES. TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, YES. OKAY. YES. SO IT WOULD GO, IT WOULD GO AGAINST, WE WOULD FIND A FREEBIE ON THE CITY'S DIET. IT'S NOT A FREEBIE. NOT A FREEBIE JUST ASKING. THEY HAVE TO CHARGE THEIR TIME SOMEWHERE. I'M SORRY, QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT WOULD THEIR RATE BE IF THEY WERE TO RESPOND TO THE RFP? DOES THAT SEEM SOMETHING? NOT THAT I PUBLIC WORKS RESPONDING TO PUBLIC WORKS AS RFP. YEAH. , I DON'T KNOW THAT. WHAT WOULD CHARGE, I MEAN, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, BUT ANYWAY. OKAY. WE MIGHT SEE RYAN OUT THERE. YEAH. I'LL BE OUT THERE BEFORE THE MEETING. TAKE TURNS. COMMISSIONER . SO WE DID HAVE A CONSERVATION COURT WAS SUBSIDIZED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE NOW WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRICES WENT UP, BUT THROUGH THE END OF THEIR CONTRACT, IT WAS SUBSIDIZED FOR ABOUT A YEAR. I THINK. WELL, SUBSIDIZED IS A, AN INTERESTING WORD. WE, WE HAVE, UH, INVOICES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE CITY. THE CITY PAID THE INVOICES. UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE ANCILLARY SERVICES THAT CONSERVATION COURT PROVIDED THAT THEY, UH, UH, DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY BILL FOR. SO WE KNOW THAT THIS WAS A, A GREAT RELATIONSHIP BASED. YES. WE, WE WERE ABLE TO CAP, I MEAN, THE COST HAD ONLY ESCALATED SINCE WE HAD TO VOTE FOR THAT, EXTENDING THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THE RFP HAD NOT BEEN DECIDED BY, WE WERE, WE WERE THE RECIPIENT OF AN AMAZING SERVICE AT WHAT TURNS OUT TO BE AN AMAZING AMOUNT. JUST CLARIFY. SO, SO THAT WAS THE CASE THEN. AND THIS, THE CITY WAS OBVIOUSLY ON BOARD WITH THAT. SO WE HAD THAT. THEN WE HAD TO ABSORB THE ADDITIONAL COSTS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DONE [00:40:01] WITH THE RFP. NOT THAT WE COULD CONTROL IT, BUT THEY WERE NOT COMPLETED WITH THEIR RFP PROCESS, EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THAT THIS WAS COMING UP, THAT THIS PRICE WOULD, YOU KNOW, DRAMATICALLY ESCALATE FOR US THIS, THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, IN THESE LAST SIX MONTHS. AND WE HAVE TO ABSORB THAT BECAUSE THE RP WASN'T COMPLETED, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR ALMOST A YEAR. AND THAT'S, TO THAT POINT THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE, IF, IF THE COMMITTEE WAS FORMED AND DONE, WHICH IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE VISIBILITY TO THAT WHENEVER THAT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED. WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE NEW COMMISSIONERS OR COMMISSIONERS TO SEE WHAT WE RECOMMENDED THE CITY. BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING OR JUST THROWING UP THERE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT THE SCOPE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE, MAYBE WE HAVE TO DESCOPE IT. I MEAN, WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO JUST MARCH DOWN THE BILL AND SAY, OKAY, WELL WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS, BUT WE'RE BUYING IT. HOW DO WE BUY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD? EITHER. WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND RPS GET RELOOKED AT ALL THE TIME IF THE FUNDING CHANGES. SO MAYBE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THIS BUDGET. AND I TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN PUSH BACK TO THE CITY TO PICK, UH, CERTAIN THINGS UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA AND NOT JUST HAVE TO SWALLOW IT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I'VE DONE THIS COMMISSIONER TO FIND, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS KIND OF GOING. BUT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE THIS NEXT CONTRACT. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS HOW LONG THE CONTRACT IS FOR. SO WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE KIND OF, YOU'VE BEEN PUT IN A CORNER WHERE WE'RE GONNA, WE DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE DECISION. APPARENTLY THE PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA DECIDE. AND I, AND WE DID GO THROUGH THE SCOPE AND I, I I WAS PART OF THAT. WE, IT WAS A LONG PROCESS. MANY MEANS WE WENT THROUGH THE SCOPE AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, THE, THE, THE TIME IT TAKES, THE, THERE'S A DELAY. IT'S NOT LIKE IN THE PRIVATE WORLD WHERE YOU CAN SIT ON A SCOPE CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. NOW WE GOTTA REBI CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT HOW THE CITY FUNCTIONS. SO WHATEVER COMES DOWN FROM THIS RFP, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ACCEPT FOR, HOPEFULLY IT'S JUST A YEAR, AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT IT FOR THE NEXT YEAR. I THINK WE'RE GONNA START THE PROCESS RIGHT AWAY. SO TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND, UH, POINTED TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, AGREED AND UNDERSTOOD. THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO. IT, IT TRIED TO, UH, SHAPE THE SCOPE OF WORK TO FIT THE BUDGET. UH, THERE WERE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE LAST CONTRACT THAT WERE TOO EXPENSIVE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE LOOKED AT AND WANTED TO, AND I THINK DID, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST IN MIND, UH, STORE OWNER'S, BEST INTEREST IN MIND, STAKEHOLDERS BEST INTEREST IN MIND, UH, CRAFT A SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS ENCOMPASSING, UH, THOROUGH. UH, AND THERE WERE SOME, SOME UNFORTUNATE CUTS THAT, THAT SERVICES. UH, BUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE, UH, ADVOCATING. AND THAT'S WHY A SUBCOMMITTEE EXISTS. BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D BE LISTENING TO 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. AND IT WOULD TAKE, UH, QUITE A LONG TIME TO GIVE A CONSENSUS BASED ON SIX DIFFERENT OPINIONS. THAT'S WHY REFORM, 'CAUSE THEY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION. AND WHEN A NEW CONTRACT COMES AROUND, UH, MY SUGGESTION IS, UH, LET'S CHANGE UP WHO'S ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND GET A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT. UH, WHATEVER THE, THE, THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE MAKING THE DECISION ON BEHALF OF THAT WE RECOMMENDED TO, UH, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT'S OVERSEEN BY PUBLIC WORKS, OF COURSE. AND THE ULTIMATE, UH, DECISION IS GONNA BE THE CITIES ON EXACTLY WHAT SERVICES ARE PROVIDED. UH, WE, ALL WE DID WAS RECOMMEND. WHY WE ALWAYS, SO JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT PASTOR, IS THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BID, AND SINCE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RFP, I DON'T KNOW, IT EITHER SAYS NOT TO EXCEED OR IT WOULD BE SAYING, WE WANT THESE SCOPE OF SERVICES AND WE WANT, AND WE'RE GOING TO AWARD IT TO, YOU KNOW, LOWEST PRICE OR WHATEVER FORMULA THEY'RE USING. SO MY ONLY POINT OF THIS IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BETA COMPLETE, I I, I THINK WE SHOULD FIND OUT IF, IF EVERYBODY CAME IN OVER WHAT THE EXPECTED BUDGET WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WAS IN 'CAUSE EITHER WE KNEW ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE IT'S GONNA COST X AND WE'RE APPROVING X. 'CAUSE IF WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WAS GONNA COST, HOW COULD WE AGREE TO THAT SCOPE OF SERVICE? IT'S KIND OF LIKE SAYING THEY YOU A CAR IN OR SOMETHING FOR A REPAIR, AND THEN YOU FIND OUT, OH, IT'S GONNA BE $3,000. OKAY, WELL MAYBE I CAN ONLY DO THESE REPAIRS RIGHT NOW. I, I'M JUST GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. THERE IS A RANGE OF, THERE IS A RANGE OF, OF COST ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF [00:45:01] THE VENDORS WHO RESPOND TO THE, AND SUBCOMMITTEE LOOKED AT THOSE CRITERIA AND MADE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY MADE. SO YOU, WE HAVE THE VENDORS ON, SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE COMMISSIONER THE SUBCOMMITTEE ALREADY KNEW WHAT THE RANGE OF COSTS WERE BEFORE WE HAD THE VENDORS DID, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IN THE ORDER, THERE WAS A FRAMEWORK OF, OF WE COULD SPEND THIS, THIS BASED ON BUDGET. WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T SPEND 3 MILLION. SO WHAT WAS THE BUDGET YEAR BUDGET, BUT THEN THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN A FIXED BUDGET THAT YOU WERE ANTICIPATING. WE WERE LOOKING AT 500,000 WHAT THE COMMISSION HAD APPROVED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. UHHUH. AND THEN I, I'LL TELL YOU, UH, IT WAS SHOCKINGLY HIGHER THAN THAT. BUT WHERE WAS THE, I GUESS I, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT. UH, AND NO, I, BUT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS IF YOU, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS GOING IN THEN, THAT'S WHAT WELL, NO, NO. I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISSPEAK THERE. NOT A MISSPEAK, BUT A MISUNDERSTANDING GOING ON. YOU KIND SEE THAT MEAN THE COMMITTEE HAD NO, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, COMMITTEE DOESN'T SEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ONLY SETS THE SCOPE OF PARAMETERS AND HAD ROUGH IDEAS OF WHAT THINGS MIGHT COST, MAYBE BASED ON WHAT WE GET. BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE RFPS GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT AND ALL THOSE THINGS COME BACK. BUT THEN THE DISCONNECT, WHICH IS WHERE I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH, WITH G TWO, WE DON'T GET TO SEE WHEN THEY ALL COME BACK. AND THEN A DECISION'S GONNA BE MADE IN, IN, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO GO RETOOL THAT REBID DO ALL THIS STUFF. WE'RE GONNA BE LUCKY TO HAVE IT DONE BY MAY, THE WAY THE CITY MOVES. SO WELL, WHY, BUT WHY CAN'T WE, WHY CAN'T THE CITY JUST PICK IT UP DURING, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST FOR THE CITY? I'VE GOTTA, I'VE GOTTA RESPECTFULLY MOVE ON BECAUSE WE, WE CAN WORK FOR HOURS. THERE IS A PROCESS OF, I I, I KNOW THAT IT, IT SOUNDS, UH, PERHAPS TRI OR DISMISSIVE FOR ME TO SAY, YOU NEED TO TRUST THE RP PROCESS, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE RFP PROCESS BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROCESS. AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT, THAT THIS COMMISSION IS GONNA DO TO CHANGE THE RP PROCESS IN THE CITY OF. SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY TO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE, THE RFP PROCESS WAS LONG AND A A LOT OF PRIVACY, EVEN AMONGST THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THERE ARE JUST RULES. AND THERE WERE TIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I CAN SAY WE, WE COULDN'T EVEN DISCUSS IT AMONGST OURSELVES. I MEAN, AS, AS A GROUP. SO IT'S, IT IS A VERY LONG PROCESS AND JUST HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT IT, OBVIOUSLY. I MEAN, A BIG DEAL. SO, SO THE PROCESS BEING THE PROCESS, UH, NOW WE, WE, WE HAVE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HOPEFULLY BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE. UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET? MY ONLY LAST QUESTION, AND I'LL LEAVE ALONE. IS THERE ANYONE I CAN, WHEN YOU SEND ME THE RP, IS THERE A CONTACT INFO THAT I COULD PROFESSIONALLY BEG TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T END UP IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE COVERAGE? WHO, WHO IS THE PERSON PUSHING THE DOCUMENT, I GUESS? AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT MINE. I CAN LOOK INTO THE, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND I'LL, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AFTER IF YOU WANT. THANK YOU. PERHAPS OUR, OUR COUNCIL MEMBER MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, HER OFFICE MIGHT BE HELPFUL ON THAT. THEY WANNA KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE BUDGET? WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON BUDGET. UH, YES. OKAY. COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE COURT? THANK YOU. MELINDA COTTON, REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING, THE CITY ALREADY HIRES AZTEC LANDSCAPING TO DO THEIR PARKS AND THROUGH THE CITY, UH, OCEAN BOULEVARD. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB. I'VE SEEN THEM ON THE JOB FOR A LONG TIME SINCE THE CITY HAS AN EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THE COMPANY LANDSCAPING COMPANY. HAVE THEY FOLLOWED THAT UP WITH FINDING A BID FOR THEM, FOR PIGGYBACKING ON THAT OR GETTING A BID FROM THEM? AND REGARDING, UM, SO I DO LIKE THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, UH, REGARDING SECURITY. THE CSI WAS HIRED WITHOUT A RFP PROCESS. UH, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RFP PROCESS THIS TIME. IF THEIR CONTRACT IS UP IN SEPTEMBER. I THINK YOU SHOULD START THE RFP PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND HAVE A [00:50:01] ROBUST, UH, INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU WANT. AND MY OBSERVATION, I THINK MANY OTHERS IS THAT CSI OPERATES TOTALLY WITH BICYCLES. WE RARELY SEE THEM ON FOOT. SO ANYTIME THEY DO ANYTHING FIRST THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BICYCLE. IS IT GONNA GET STOLEN, BROKEN? WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT? AND, UH, IT JUST SEEMS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THE BICYCLES ON THE SIDEWALK, OR THEY SHOULDN'T. SO WE DON'T HARDLY EVER SEE THEM EXCEPT IN PLACES WHERE THEY CAN USE THEIR BICYCLES. AND I REALIZED YOU REALLY NEED SECURITY. AND I WAS AT A EVENT, I MET THE HEAD OF A SECURITY COMPANY IN WHICH COUNTY, AND I CHATTED WITH THEM ABOUT IT, AND I SAID, YES, WE HAVE SECOND STREET, A BUSY AREA AND THEY USE BICYCLES. HE SAID, HOW CAN THEY OPERATE WITH BICYCLES? HE SAID HE WAS TOTALLY A MYSTIFIED. SO REALLY, REALLY LOOK AT THAT, BUT REALLY GET THE PROCESS SORTED EARLY. I WOULD SUGGEST, AND PLEASE, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO THESE ISSUES BECAUSE YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON SECURITY AND THEY REALLY CAN'T DO WHAT POLICE DO. I DON'T KNOW THEIR LEVEL OF STATE AUTHORIZATION FOR INDIVIDUAL, BUT IT'S VERY LIMITED. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND ALL, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. HI, R RA ON THE RFP FOR THE SECURITY. DOES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY OR IS THAT YOUR BUSINESS? WE, WE CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, SORRY. OKAY. NEVER MIND . OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. ITEM THREE. UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A LONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR FEBRUARY, 2025. UH, THAT WILL BE FOUND ON PAGE SEVEN. UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, I'M SORRY. UH, MOTION. YEAH. UH, ERIC, RICHARD, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE A FILE PASS COURT. AND A SECOND PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BLANK. SECOND. OKAY. UH, RYAN, FOR FEBRUARY, WE HAD 4,656 BOARDINGS. WE ARE UP FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. PREVIOUS YEAR IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD 3,465, SO A LITTLE OVER 1200 MORE THAN LAST YEAR. IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP, WE HAVE 161 RIDER FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY UP FROM LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS, WHICH WERE 116, ABOUT 50 MORE WHAT WASN'T. SURE. UH, COMMISSIONERS. GREAT. GREAT. I JUST WANNA CONTINUE, EVERY TIME THIS COMES UP, I JUST WANNA THANK THE BSBA AND HEATHER FOR HER AMAZING WORK. GETTING ALL OF THE STAFF GOING AND SIGNED UP AND KEEPING, KEEP AN ON EVERYBODY. WE COULDN'T DO WITHOUT REALLY, HONESTLY, I THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. SHE'S, SHE'S HERE. YEAH. HI HEATHER. OKAY. UH, YEAH, THESE NUMBERS ARE, ARE, UH, EXTREMELY, UH, ENCOURAGING. UH, AND ONE MORE TIME. UH, WE'LL REMIND THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM, UH, THE BENEFITS OF THE BUS PASS PROGRAM, WHY IT WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY, UH, CRAFTED, UH, TO TRADE OFF, UH, EMPLOYEES FOR PARKING SPACES. AND THE COST OF THIS, UH, THROUGH, UH, LONG BEACH TRANSIT, UH, DOES NOT AFFECT OUR BUDGET IN ANY WAY. THIS IS A SEPARATE FUND, UH, FOR JUST SUCH A PURPOSE. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. UM, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. UH, BRIAN COCHRAN. UM, I'M GONNA REPEAT SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, BEEN RAISED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR, AND I HOPE, WHICH MAY APPEAL TO COMMISSIONER'S INTEREST HERE, IS THAT ABSENT DATA ABOUT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES EMPLOYED AND USING THE PROGRAM, 161 RIDERS COULD BE ESSENTIALLY MINUSCULE MEANINGLESS. THERE NEEDS TO BE DATA THAT'S SHARED WITH PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSION REGARDING HOW MANY POTENTIAL WRITERS THERE ARE OUT OUT THERE. HOW MANY EMPLOYEES IN THE SECTOR THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS. WITHOUT THAT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST MEANINGLESS IN TERMS OF DATA. YOU CAN JUST KEEP SAYING WE'RE TRAINING UPWARDS, BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT IN SIGNIFICANCE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTEXT FOR THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, APPRECIATE THAT. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? [00:55:01] ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING THE REPORT? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO EXCUSE THE STATUS UPDATE, EXCUSE ME, ON CONSERVATION BOARD OF LONG BEACH'S WORK IN THE BELMONT SHORE AREA, INCLUDING RESPONSES TO REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FOR FEBRUARY, 2025. UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? MOTION JAN DECK SECOND. OKAY. UH, PLEASE, GENTLEMEN. GOOD MORNING, GUYS. UH, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH REMOVAL. UH, BEEN OUT THERE, UH, Y UM, IT'S NOT COMING OFF EASILY, SO IT TAKES LIKE MORE THAN ONCE OR TWICE TO, YOU KNOW, COME DOWN. WHERE, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU STAYING MOST? THE GRAFFITI. BIG BED. BIG BELT BIG. GETTING HIT WITH GR FEET. UM, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. SO PASSENG GRAFFITI WITH THE ONE PASS, BUT COME BACK AND DO THE SECOND PASS. SO MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK YOU CAN CALL IT, IT IS, IT'S GO ON REACH, THE GO ON REACH APP. THEY, THEY RESPOND TO GRAFFITI GENERALLY, BUT YOU GUYS, CONSERVATION CORPS IS GETTING INTO IT AHEAD OF BEING REPORTED ON THE GO LONG BEACH APP OR IS IT THE LONG BEACH APP? CONTACT CONSERVATION COURT? I BELIEVE IT IS STRAIGHT FROM, UM, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE MIKE BRIDGES CONSERVATION CORPS. UH, SO WE, SO WE ALSO GET CONTACTED BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, BIG ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES BUREAU. UH, I BELIEVE THE, THE PERSON'S NAME IS IDA. UH, IDA WILL USUALLY CONTACT ME WHEN THERE'S, UH, REPORT OFF OF GO LONG BEACH BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE SERVICE THIS AREA. AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I'LL USUALLY SEND MY TEAM OUT. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF SOME QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT POP UP ABOUT HOW WE DEAL WITH GRAFFITI . THANKFULLY WE'RE DEALING WITH IT. SO, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. NO, JUST, UH, THE LIT, UH, THE PARKING LOTS. UH, SOME, UH, AS WELL IN THE PARKING LOTS. UH, BUT YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH . OKAY. UH, AND THEN, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE MEDIUMS UNTIL THE END OF OUR CONTRACT COST TO YOU GUYS. AWESOME. AWESOME. UH, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UH, RYAN, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT? ANY, ANY BOOK BULK ITEMS OR ANYTHING? NO, NO. GOOD NEWS. GOOD. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, NO, NO COMMENT ON CONSERVATION COURT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CONSERVATION COURT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE. YES, THERE AN UPDATE ON THE BIG BELLIES BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM THAT ARE EITHER DAMAGED OR JUST GETTING REALLY BAD REPAIR. UH, I, I WOULDN'T ORDINARILY RESPOND, BUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING I MENTIONED THAT WE ARE REPLACING TWO BIG BELLIES, UH, IMMINENTLY. AND THIS IS AN ONGOING PROCESS WHERE WE REPLACE BIG IES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UH, WE JUST REPLACED 12 OF THEM. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ONGOING, UH, PROJECT. OKAY. UH, A NUMBER OF THEM REPAIRS, GENERAL PARK REPAIR AND REPLACE. YES, IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. THIS IS A PART OF THE MEETING WHERE WE ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY MATTER, UH, BEFORE THE COMMISSION. UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT ALL, PLEASE. UH, BRIAN COCKER, ALL SHORT. UM, I WANT TAKE A MOMENT TO SPOTLIGHT OUR NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS. I'VE BEEN SEEING ENGAGEMENTS AND IT SHOWS A, A REFLECTION OF LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PROCESSES HAVE OCCURRED BEFORE AND, UH, TRYING TO CATCH UP. SO I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF THEM, ESPECIALLY JEFF, TO DEB AND, UH, DAVID, TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS AS YOU ONBOARD, AND ALSO BE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND WHAT'S COME BEFORE. UM, BY CONTEXT, I ALSO WANT SHARE THAT, UH, AS MUCH AS THERE SEEMS TO BE RAILING IN THE ROOM BY THE COMMISSIONERS OR SOME COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE CITY'S PROCESS, THAT IS A CITY PROCESS. IT EXISTED. EVERY OTHER ENTITY IN THE CITY WORKS WITHIN IT. UH, COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT IT IS OR WHAT IT CAN'T BE AT THIS JUNCTURE ISN'T PRODUCTIVE TO YOUR EFFORTS. AND ON A PARALLEL, I WOULD SAY THE PUBLIC OVER THE LAST YEAR HAS EXPLAINED THAT IT IS FRUSTRATED WITH [01:00:01] YOUR PROCESS, UH, THAT WE HAVE NO GATEWAY SIGNAGE. AFTER YEARS OF CONSIDERING THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET, THAT, UH, ONE MEETING SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE ARBORIST FAILINGS AND THE TREE STRUCTURES THAT WE WANTED TO GET THAT WOULD DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS TO OFFER. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR PRODUCTIVE QUESTIONING AND MOVING TOWARDS AN AWARENESS OF, UH, THE PROCESS THAT IS HELPFUL TO YOU, RATHER THAN A HURDLE TO YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING, APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. UH, WILL WE HAVE ONE? OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH. UM, UH, I JUST WANNA BRING UP THAT YOU MEAN TO STATE YOUR NAME? OH, SORRY. JULIE DEAN. UH, I JUST WANNA BRING UP THAT, UM, WE'VE ASKED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, WELL, HALF A YEAR, UM, FOR THE TOLL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IN THE SHORE. AND IF THAT COULD BE PRODUCED, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT GREATLY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I DON'T WITNESS MISS ANYBODY. OKAY. UH, WITH THAT, WE, UH, HAVE AN ADJOURNMENT AT 10 0 3. THANK YOU MUCH, EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.