Mar 27, 2025 Police Oversight Commission

UH, SO WE NEED THE CHAIR TO OPEN UP THE ELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP THE, UH, THE DECLARE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE POC CHAIR.

EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

THESE NOMINATIONS CANNOT BE AMENDED OR RECONSIDERED AND DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.

SO, AT THIS TIME, I OPEN THE FLOOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE CHARLIE PARKIN FOR CHAIR.

I KNEW HE WAS GOING .

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEE, SEEING NONE? WE'LL CLOSE THE, UH, NOMINATIONS.

I, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE THE CHAIR FOR AS LONG AS I AM, UH, FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL DO, UH, VOTE.

MOTION CARRIED.

THAT WAS EASY.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE NOW GONNA DECLARE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE POC VICE CHAIR.

AND AGAIN, EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR A VICE CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

AND THESE NOMINATIONS CANNOT BE AMENDED OR RECONSIDERED.

AND DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.

AT THIS POINT, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR VICE CHAIR.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE VICE CHAIR TUSHNET.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? LOT OF CRICKETS OVER HERE.

AND A SECOND ON THE MINUTES.

AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.

MAY WE HAVE A VOTE? MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, WE'LL NOW ROLL INTO THE, WE'LL GO INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

UH, FIRST ITEM PLEASE.

MADAM CLERK, ITEM ONE.

RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15TH, 2025.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION

[1. 25-54783 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Police Oversight Commission meeting of Wednesday, January 15, 2025. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM, ITEM TWO.

RECOMMENDATION TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK AND DISCUSS.

AND IF APPROPRIATE, APPROVE THE MISSION STATEMENT, VISION STATEMENT, AND VALUE STATEMENT OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.

WE, DO WE NEED A SECOND BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'M NOW GONNA HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE FOR A BRIEF REPORT.

THANK YOU, CHAIR PARKIN.

UM, AS YOU COMMISSIONERS MAY REMEMBER, IN OUR JANUARY MEETING, WE DID PRESENT TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, THE O P'S RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE MISSION STATEMENT, THE VISION STATEMENT, AS WELL AS THE VALUE STATEMENTS.

THEY WERE ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

SO I HOPE YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE, UM, WITH DISCUSSION IN THE LAST MEETING, WE DID HAVE SOME INPUT.

WE JUST DIDN'T POST THE ACTUAL ITEMS CORRECTLY, SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT BACK FOR AN ACTUAL VOTE TO IMPLEMENT .

ANY COMMISSION QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE MISSION STATEMENT OR VISION STATEMENT

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OR THE VALUE STATEMENT? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

GOOD JOB.

I KNOW YOU TOOK, UH, INPUT FROM COMMISSIONER SOTO AND WE REVISED IT A BIT, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR US, SO

[2. 25-54784 Recommendation to solicit feedback and discuss, and if appropriate, approve the Mission Statement, Vision Statement and Value Statement of the Police Oversight Commission. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER BROWN? I WASN'T PRESENT FOR THE JANUARY 15TH MEETING, SO THIS MAY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED.

FORGIVE ME IF IT WAS, BUT COULD YOU JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH THERE WAS ANY COMMUNITY INPUT IN THE CREATION OF THE VISION STATEMENT? SO, UH, WITH THE VISION STATEMENT, AND PART OF WHAT BROUGHT THIS OFFICE TO BE WAS A LOT OF STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY, THE, UH, POLISH CHAIN SOLUTIONS WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THEIR CONCERNS, UM, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE NATION WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE OVERSIGHT.

UH, THERE WAS INPUT AT THE LAST MEETING AS WELL ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED THE OFFICE TO LOOK INTO, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY WANTED THE COMMISSION TO, UM, KEEP AS POTENTIAL CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, WHAT WE STATED WAS, THIS IS A BROAD PICTURE OF WHAT THE OFFICE IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION.

AND WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PIVOT IF WE NEED TO BASED ON THINGS THAT COMES UP ALONG THE WAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD AGAIN HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MISSION STATEMENT VALUE STATEMENT SCENE? NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

COULD WE HAVE A VOTE? MOTION CARRIES.

COULD YOU READ THE NEXT ITEM, PLEASE? MADAM CLERK.

ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK AND DISCUSS.

AND IF APPROPRIATE, APPROVE THE 2024 OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT ANNUAL REPORT.

[3. 25-54785 Recommendation to solicit feedback and discuss, and if appropriate, approve the 2024 Office of Police Oversight Annual Report. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

THANK YOU, CHAIR PARKIN.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PRESENT PORTIONS OF THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAD AS A PART OF YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

UM, WE'RE MOSTLY FOCUSING ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD, BUT BEFORE WE, UM, DIVE INTO THAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR INPUT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY THE PARTS THAT BROUGHT ABOUT THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.

UM, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRE TO MOVE OVERSIGHT IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH FORWARD.

THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

UM, AND TRYING TO DO THE WORK ON THEIR BEHALF AS WELL AS STANDING UP A COMMISSION THAT CAN BASICALLY HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE TO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA START AUDITING.

AND I WILL GIVE YOU MORE INPUT AS WELL WHEN I DO MY UPDATE LATER ON ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE OFFICE AND HOW WE'RE MOVING SOME THINGS FORWARD AND FILLING UP SOME STAFFING POSITIONS.

UM, WE CANNOT DO THIS WORK WITHOUT COMMUNITY INPUT, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS OR MAKING POLICIES, THEY'RE ALSO INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND IF WE HAVE TO BE A CONDUIT, UM, UNTIL THOSE THINGS ARE DONE ON THEIR OWN, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

UM, I WOULD ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK MY STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK IN PULLING THIS ANNUAL REPORT TOGETHER.

AS SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW.

UM, WE'VE BEEN IN OFFICE OF TWO FOR QUITE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

UM, IT'S HARD TO STAND UP IN OFFICE WITH TWO PEOPLE, SO WE WOULD GET STAFF, STAFF WOULD GO TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND IT'S KIND OF BEEN BACK AND FORTH.

BUT I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT I THINK OUR TEAM IS EXTREMELY SOLID IN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW.

UM, THEY'RE VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO THE TASK WITH AS MUCH PASSION AS I AM TO MAKING SURE WE GET THIS OFFICE RIGHT AS THE INAUGURAL OFFICE OF OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION'S WORK.

UM, IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, UH, DURING THE 2024 CALENDAR YEAR.

WHAT YOU WILL NOT SEE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT IS THE STATISTICS OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CASES THAT WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING, WHICH IS THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS CASES.

WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH A SEPARATE REPORT, UM, THAT WILL HAVE SOME QUARTERLY STATISTICS REGARDING THOSE CASES.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT WE RECEIVED THOSE CASES TO REVIEW TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, AND IT WASN'T ENOUGH INFORMATION TO REALLY DIVE INTO IT OR BRING TRUE STATISTICS BACK.

WE'RE ON OUR SECOND BATCH RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND BECAUSE WE ARE A NEW OFFICE, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAD TO GO INTO SETTING UP THE PROCESS.

WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THE FEEDBACK LOOK LIKE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAINING STAFF AS WELL? SO THE TIMING OF IT DIDN'T FIT WITH THIS REPORT, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO MOVING INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, RECOMMENDATION ONE IS THAT THE LONG

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BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A FAMILY LIAISON OFFICER POSITION TO ACT AS A DESIGNATED POINT OF CONTACT FOR FAMILIES OF INDIVIDUALS SERIOUSLY INJURED OR KILLED DURING POLICE OPERATIONS.

THE STAFF IN THIS POSITION SHOULD BE CAPABLE OF INTERFACING WITH FAMILIES WITH THE UTMOST COMPASSION AND SINCERITY.

THE FAMILY LIAISON OFFICER WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH FAMILY MEMBERS IN AN EMPATHETIC MANNER AND OFFER RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO SUPPORT THEM FOLLOWING THE DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY OF A FAMILY MEMBER.

THE FAMILY LIAISON OFFICER WILL BE AN ONGOING POINT OF CONTACT BETWEEN THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SUBJECT'S FAMILY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ADVISE ON PROGRESS, PROGRESS OF THE INVESTIGATION, AND TO FOLLOW UP ON REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I RECOMMEND EVERYWHERE I GO, TO EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT I'VE EVER HAD THE OBLIGATION OF GIVING OVERSIGHT TO.

UM, BEING THAT THESE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE HIGHLY CHARGED EMOTIONALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAUMA GOING ON WITH THE FAMILY, UM, AND THE, THE SPECIFICS OR THE PECULIARITY OF THE INCIDENT, IT'S NOT TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM DURING SUCH TRAUMATIC TIMES, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THEY'RE DEALING WITH THEIR OWN TRAUMA.

UM, BEING THAT THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE, UM, THE OWNER, IF YOU, OF THE INVESTIGATION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEPARATE THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATORS OF THE INCIDENT AND THE FAMILY AND TO HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT THAT CAN HELP THE FAMILY DEAL WITH QUESTIONS AND NAVIGATE HOW TO, UM, DEAL WITH THE INCIDENT AS WELL AS THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND WHAT TO EXPECT MOVING FORWARD, UM, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HOPING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION AND CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD.

AND, UH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM AND THEN I GUESS WE COULD JUST GO BACK AND TALK THROUGH 'EM.

INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT CAN BE SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES DO NOT PERMIT THE USE OF THE BODY SHIELD.

UH, RECOMMENDATION TWO IS, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH SHOULD CREATE A PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS WILLING TO PROVIDE FEE FREE OR LOW COST MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING AND SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE WITNESSED A POLICE CRITICAL INCIDENT, SUCH AS AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZES THE NEGATIVE LONG-TERM EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS WI WITNESSING ONE OF THESE INCIDENTS CAN HAVE ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND THEREFORE REQUIRES THEIR OFFICERS TO SEE A THERAPIST PRIOR TO RETURNING TO WORK.

COMMUNITY WITNESSES TO SET EVENTS COULD ALSO BENEFIT GREATLY FROM COUNSELING SERVICES.

MEASURES SHOULD ALSO BE TAKEN TO SAFEGUARD INDIVIDUALS THAT UTILIZE THIS SERVICE AND TO ENSURE THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS SHARED DURING THESE SESSIONS.

RECOMMENDATION THREE.

WITHIN A FEW HOURS OF A CRITICAL INCIDENT NOTIFICATION, THE LPO STAFF RESPONDS TO THE LOCATION OF THE OCCURRENCE, DESPITE SOME TIME HAVING PASSED SINCE THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT.

THE OPO HAS NOTICED IN MULTIPLE CASES THAT THE INVOLVED OFFICERS ARE STILL PRESENT AT THE SCENE.

NOT ONLY IS THE PRESENCE OF THE SHOOTING OFFICERS POTENTIALLY INFLAMMATORY FOR FAMILY AND WITNESSES AT THE LOCATION, BUT IT IS ALSO TRAUMATIC FOR THE OFFICERS.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR AN INVOLVED OFFICER TO REMAIN AT THE SCENE OF A CRITICAL INCIDENT FOR SEVERAL HOURS AFTER ITS OCCURRENCE.

THE WALKTHROUGH OF THE INVOLVED OFFICER CAN TAKE PLACE MORE IMMEDIATELY ALLOWING THE OFFICER TO LEAVE THE AREA AND TO REPORT TO THE STATION.

THE OFFICER COULD BE REMOVED FROM THE SCENE FOLLOWING THE CONCLUSION OF THE INCIDENT IN RETURN IF OR WHEN THE WALKTHROUGH IS REQUIRED.

RECOMMENDATION FOUR IS THAT DURING THE PROCESS OF THE LBP, DURING THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT USES BROAD GENERAL POLICY DESCRIPTIONS DESCRIBE THE ALLEGATION OF THE MISCONDUCT BY OFFICERS.

THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY THAT HOLDS TYPICAL ALLEGATIONS USED IN DISCIPLINARY INVESTIGATIONS.

THIS PRACTICE IS NOT COMMON, NOR IS IT HELPFUL FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN AN OFFICER MAY HAVE VIOLATED POLICY.

UM, AND AS WE MENTIONED AT OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAVE HIRED A, UM, CONSULTANT TO DO AN AUDIT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS PROCESS.

WE HAVE ALREADY HAD OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THEM.

UM, THE CASES THAT WE'RE REVIEWING AS STAFF IS GONNA BE USED AS PART OF THEIR AUDIT WORK, UM, TO BASICALLY LOOK AT THEIR PROCESSES.

BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IN THE REPORT YOU WILL NOTICE THAT WE DO PUT DEFINITIONS OF COMMON, UH, ALLEGATIONS, DISCIPLINARY, UM, MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS, AND THAT'S NOT HOW THEY'RE USED IN THE CITY.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPERATIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THOSE DEFINITIONS WERE.

AND THE LAST TWO, THE OPO RECOMMENDS THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE CONTINGENCY PLANS IN PLACE TO ENSURE SCENES WHERE DECEASED

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AND THE LAST RECOMMENDATION THROUGH REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS.

THE OPO HAS NOTICED A PATTERN WHEN THERE IS A STRUGGLE TO GET SOMEONE INTO CUSTODY AND THE HANDCUFFS BEING APPLIED TO TIGHTLY, WE HAVE NOT WITNESSED THE OFFICERS CHECKING THE ARRESTEES CUFFS PRIOR TO TRANSPORT AS REQUIRED BY POLICY.

EVEN AFTER THE ARRESTEES, MAKE THE OFFICERS AWARE OF THEIR PAIN ASSOCIATED WITH THE HANDCUFFS OFFICERS DO NOT ADJUST HIM FOR A MORE COMFORTABLE FIT.

THE LPL RECOMMENDS IMPLEMENTING A STANDARDIZED PRACTICE OF CHECKING AND DOCUMENTING THE CONDITION OF THE HANDCUFFS WHENEVER FORCE IS USED.

THIS INSURERS COMPLIANCE WITH BEST PRACTICES MITIGATES POTENTIAL INJURY CLAIMS AND REINFORCES ACCOUNTABILITY.

OFFICERS SHOULD CONFIRM PROPER FIT, ASSESS FOR SIGNS OF EXCESSIVE TIGHTNESS OR INJURY, AND RECORD THEIR OBSERVATIONS IN THEIR REPORTS.

THESE STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN ONCE THE SUSPECT IS CALM AND COMPLIANT AND IF POSSIBLE PRIOR TO TRANSPORT.

UM, AND IN THIS PART I JUST WANTED TO MENTION SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT THE STAFF OF THE OFFICE HAS DONE.

THIS IS NOT AN ENTIRE LIST FOR THE 2024, UM, YEAR, BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE AS WELL THAT WE HAVE STARTED OUR OUTREACH CAMPAIGN, WHERE WE'VE REACHED OUT TO OVER 200 COMMUNITY GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND, UH, BUSINESSES TO OFFER OUR ME TO COME OUT AND SPEAK AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE WORK OF THE OFFICE AND ALSO TO BE PRESENT FOR THEIR EVENTS.

UM, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK FOR ANY IMPROVEMENT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

I, I, I THINK WE'RE ON A GREAT PATH ON THIS FIRST REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU STAFF.

UM, REALLY GOOD.

I THINK RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO MY COMMISSIONERS IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER RUSS? YES.

UH, GREAT JOB ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, I KIND OF WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THEM AND, AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO WITH RECOMMENDATION ONE, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC RE AND I THINK RECOMMENDATION ONE AND TWO.

UH, SPEAKING FROM MY OWN LENS IN THE MILITARY, WE HAVE HAD A CASUALTY NOTIFICATION OFFICERS AND CASUAL CASUALTY CENSUS OFFICERS SINCE PROBABLY THE SIXTIES OR SEVENTIES DURING VIETNAM.

AND, UH, I'M SURPRISED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE YET.

AND IT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT, THAT THIS IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THAT, UH, LIAISON, UH, ASPECT TO, TO REALLY HELP THE FAMILIES AND, AND GET A LOT OF THOSE RESOURCES THAT SOMETIMES MIGHT FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.

SO I THINK THOSE, THE FIRST TWO ARE, ARE FANTASTIC, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST ONE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, WITH RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION SIX TO ME READS, UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION BEFORE IT, AND SO I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT OR, OR IF THERE'S MAYBE ANOTHER PLACE IN THE REPORT THAT, UH, THE BACKGROUND COULD BE ADDED.

BUT I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT ONE KIND OF READS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND A LOT LONGER THAN THE REST.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IN THE QUARTERLY, THAT'S MORE SPECIFIC TO THE CASES WE REVIEWED, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION FROM.

SOME OF IT WAS BASED ON WHAT WE NOTICED WITH THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

OTHERS WAS BASED ON, UM, THE REVIEWS OF THE COMPLAINTS WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ADD THEM TO THE ANNUAL REPORT AS WELL AS TOUCHING ON THEM AGAIN WHEN WE GET TO THE, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASES SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEN MY FINAL, UH, QUESTION WITH RECOMMENDATION FIVE, UH, I FEEL LIKE THAT ONE'S ALSO VERY, VERY SPECIFIC.

IT'S NOT AS BROAD AS THE OTHER ONE, SO I, I FEEL LIKE THAT DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS PROBABLY A, A VERY SPECIFIC INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED THAT, UH, DIDN'T ALLOW FOR BODY SHIELDS OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IS, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH WITH THAT? UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE BOYD FAMILY.

UH, NOT CONSIDER, THAT'S MY VIEW OF THAT.

UM, THERE IS A TYPICAL SHIELD THAT IS USED THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A PARTITION, BUT IT ONLY COMES UP MAYBE AS HIGH AS THIS DESK.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATED POSITION OF MR. BOYD, HE WAS HIGHER THAN THE ACTUAL SHIELD ITSELF.

SO THE, THE SHIELD THAT THEY USED DID NOT PROVIDE, UM, DISCRETION FOR THE INCIDENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT VICE CHAIR.

I, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.

UM, AND I, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I'VE GOT, UM, OR COMMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE QUESTIONS AND I, RECOMMENDATION ONE I THINK IS A STRONG, A GOOD RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT READS SHOULD CONSIDER AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE STRONGER.

THEY SHOULD ESTABLISH,

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UM, IN RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, I'D LIKE, I WAS TAKEN ABACK JUST BY THE TIME IT TOOK TO FOLLOW A COMPLAINT.

IT SAYS SIX TO 12 MONTHS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INCLUDED IN, IN THIS.

THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES, BUT I'D LIKE SOMETHING ABOUT SPEEDY IN THERE.

UM, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA CRAFT THE LANGUAGE, BUT I, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT FOLLOWING THESE COMPLAINTS.

UM, PARTICULARLY THE MOST IMPORTANT, THE CRITICAL INCIDENT ONES AND THE ONES WITH STRONGER COMPLAINTS.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I AM PRETTY, PRETTY HAPPY WITH, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT I, I WANNA PUSH A LITTLE HARDER IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BROWN.

CONTINUED APPRECIATION FOR THE EFFORT.

I HAD A QUESTION AROUND RECOMMENDATION ONE WITH THE FAMILY LIAISON OFFICER.

IS THAT A SWORN POSITION? SO A LOT OF WHAT I RESEARCHED AND WHERE I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM WAS FROM THE UK.

UM, AND THEY HAD BOTH, IT COULD BE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY HAVE IT AS A CIVILIAN POSITION AND SOMEBODY WITH THE CLINICAL BACKGROUND, UH, THROUGH PSYCHOLOGY AND ALL THE NECESSARY THINGS TO BE REALLY EFFECTIVE AT THIS.

MM-HMM .

BUT WITH THE AUTHORITY THAT THEY REALLY ARE CAPABLE TO GO IN AND GET THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED.

UM, WHAT TYPICAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THERE'S A BUREAUCRACY DUE TO HIERARCHY.

YEAH.

AND CIVILIANS AREN'T ALWAYS GIVEN THE SAME LEVEL OF ACCESS AS SOMEBODY THAT IS SWORN.

SO IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE BUILT IN THAT WHOEVER THIS PERSON IS CAN REALLY NOT HAVE TO WAIT AND GO UP THIS CHAIN OF INFORMATION THAT TYPICALLY SLOWS DOWN THINGS BEYOND HELP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE WONDERING I WAS HAVING IS, UM, TROUBLE RECONCILING HOW PARAGRAPH ONE AND PARAGRAPH TWO, PARAGRAPH TWO IS CLEARLY AROUND EMPATHY SUPPORT, TRAUMA RESPONSE.

AND SO I WAS QUESTIONING IF IN FACT A SWORN OFFICER WOULD HOLD THE NECESSARY TRAINING TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT.

AND SO I JUST, I, I WONDER ABOUT THE CONNECTION AND THE POSSIBILITIES AROUND WHO WOULD PROVIDE, WHO WOULD ACTUALLY BE POSITIONED WITH THE TRAINING NEEDED TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT.

YOU OFFER ANOTHER LENS, WHICH IS THE INNER WORKINGS INSIDE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION ACCESS MIGHT GO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT.

I I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, FROM OUR POSITION, IT IS OUR EXPECTATION THAT EVERY PERSON THAT WORKS IN THE DEPARTMENT HOLDS THIS LEVEL OF EMPATHY AND COMPASSION.

AND IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE SPECIFIC TO ONE POSITION WHERE THEY'RE TRAINED UP ANY HIGHER OR BETTER THAN THE REST.

UM, THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET ARE THE FIRST LINE OF COMPASSION WHEN DEALING WITH THESE SITUATIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST MOVING IT FORWARD, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE WILL REALLY PERMEATE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

ANYTHING ELSE? UH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON, I THINK THE VICE CHAIR'S QUESTION TOO ON, NOW THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, ARE PASSED BY THIS BODY, HOW, HOW ARE THEY TRANSMITTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? AND THEN, UH, HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT? I, I THINK YOU WERE ASKING INSTEAD OF SHOULD THEY, THEY NEED TO DO IT, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THEY'LL TAKE ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE AND GET IT GOING.

BUT HOW, HOW DOES THAT COMMUNICATION, IF YOU GO, WALK ME THROUGH HOW THIS WORKS AFTER THIS STEP TONIGHT? YES.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

UM, ONCE IT IS APPROVED, WE WILL POST IT ON OUR WEBPAGE AS WELL.

UM, WE WILL GIVE A COPY.

THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SENT TO THE CHIEF, THE CITY MANAGER, UM, JUST TO REVIEW PRIOR TO, TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO ACTUAL ERRORS WITH THE INFORMATION WE WERE PUTTING OUT.

UM, OR LIKE LABOR TYPE ISSUES THAT COULDN'T BE ATTAINABLE IF WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY DO.

SO ONCE THAT WAS DONE, WE CRAFTED IT AND PUT EVERYTHING INTO THE ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION, WE SEND IT TO THE CHIEF.

MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THE CHIEF NEEDS TO TALK TO HIS EXECUTIVE STAFF ABOUT HOW DOES THIS WORK, DOES THIS FIT, UM, CAN IT BE DONE AND HOW WOULD IT LOOK? AND THEN WE WOULD EXPECT A RESPONSE BACK FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS NOT WRITTEN INTO THE CHARTER OF OPO WHEN THEY WERE CREATING IT BEFORE ME GETTING HERE, THAT

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THERE WAS THE REQUIREMENT OF A RESPONSE.

UM, BUT THE CHIEF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ASKED.

AND I DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT.

SO I'M HOPEFUL TO HAVE SOMETHING BACK PROBABLY WITHIN 30 TO 45 DAYS WITH AT LEAST LIKE WE'RE CONSIDERING IT.

NO, WE DON'T WANT, WANT TO CONSIDER IT AT ALL.

JUST SOME FORM OF RESPONSE.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE CONVERSATION I'LL HAVE WITH THE CHIEF ONCE THE REPORT IS DELIVERED TO HIM.

IMPLEMENTATION IS EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR.

SO I'M GOING TO SORT OF DRAW ON MY, UH, ACADEMIC BACKGROUND.

UM, THERE IS WAY BACK, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN HARVARD EDUCATION REVIEW CALLED STREET CORNER BUREAUCRATS, AND THOSE ARE THE MAJOR DECISION MAKERS AND 40 YEARS OF RESEARCH.

HERE'S THE ANSWER THAT I CAN GIVE YOU.

AND SO IF WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING IMPLEMENTATION, UM, THIS, IT'S ALL PAPER.

UH, SO I WANNA AGAIN, PUSH ON THE IMP ON FOLLOW UP AND IMPLEMENTATION AND IT, IF THEY COME BACK WITH, WE WILL DO IT, BUT WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DRAG OUR, THEY NEVER SAY WE'LL DRAG OUR FEET, BUT IF WE NOTICE THEY'RE DRAGGING THEIR FEET ON SOMETHING, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND QUESTION IT AGAIN.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? SO, YES.

YEAH, MOST OF MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

IT IS EXCELLENT.

UM, AND JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS TO FOLLOW UP ON THE, THE RECOMMENDATION ONE, THE, THE LIAISON IF, AS BEST AS POSSIBLY CAN BE DONE.

I THINK ONE THING I, I HONED IN ON IMMEDIATELY WAS ALSO TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE THAT'S NOT IN THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENT'S CHAIN OF COMMAND TO BE THAT LIAISON, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME, SOME, SOME IMPRACTICAL NESS WITH WITH THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU'D ALREADY DESCRIBED.

BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO FIND SOMEONE WHO'S OUTSIDE OF THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND, UH, AND NOT PREFERABLY A NON-SWORN PERSON THAT'S, THAT THAT DOES KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT POLICE PRACTICES, KNOWS ABOUT, UM, THESE SITUATIONS, UM, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK IDEAL, UM, MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE, BUT TO GIVE THAT AT LEAST SOME SORT OF, UM, CONSIDERATION, I THINK WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, I, I CERTAINLY SAW THAT IN MY TIME ON THE CPCC, UM, SOME PROBLEMS WITH, WITH THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS.

AND I KNOW YOU, YOU FRAMED YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS VERY BROADLY 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA OBVIOUSLY WORK ON WITH HOPEFULLY WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO TIGHTEN UP.

SO I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE THAT'S PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

NOTHING SPECIFIC, UH, BUT LIKE I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT EVOLVES AS YOU GET CLOSER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

TRY TO TRY TO TIGHTEN THAT UP OR, AND, AND, AND NOT JUST IN TIGHTENING UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE AND SOME OF THE, THE CLASSIFICATIONS OF MISCONDUCT, BUT ALSO, UM, AS BEST WE CAN TO, TO TRIAGE THE EFFORTS TOWARDS, UM, I THINK, UH, MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS THAT, UM, HAVE A PRIORITY.

UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A, A, A LARGE VOLUME OF MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS, I KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S STAFFING ISSUES TO, TO WORK THAT IN WITH, WITH TIGHTENING UP.

UM, THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS I, I THINK WOULD ALSO BE APPRECIATED.

AND, AND IF I'M CORRECT, I MEAN ITEM FOUR KIND OF GOES DOVETAILS WITH THE FIRST AUDIT THAT YOU'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT NOW ON, AND I THINK A LOT MORE INFORMATION AND DETAIL WILL COME OUTTA THAT AUDIT TO HELP KIND OF FLUSH OUT WHAT WE, WE AS THE COMMISSION WILL SEE AND HOPEFULLY RECOMMEND TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON CHANGES THAT'LL IMPROVE THAT.

IS THAT FAIR? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

THE TIMELINESS, ALL OF THE ISSUES KIND OF FOLD INTO ONE ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE, AND HOW THEY DO THINGS CURRENTLY.

SUPER.

BOYD FAMILY HAS ASKED FOR.

SEEING NO OTHER COMMISSION COMMENT.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ANNUAL REPORT? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

HELLO.

UM, BRANDON BOYD WAS MURDERED BY LBPD FOUR MONTHS AGO.

AND WHEN I READ THROUGH YOUR ANNUAL REPORT, I WAS DISGUSTED TO SEE THAT YOUR NARRATIVE OF HIS MURDER PARROTED LBP D'S NARRATIVE, WHERE IS THE OVERSIGHT IF YOU'RE JUST ADOPTING THE COPS VERSION OF WHAT HAPPENED VERBATIM HIM? YOUR DESCRIPTION DEHUMANIZES BRANDON AND REFERS TO HIM AS A SUSPECT THROUGHOUT, WHILE THE MURDERERS ARE STILL TREATED WITH DEFERENCE.

THE REPORT ALSO FAILS TO MENTION THAT AFTER KILLING BRANDON, THE POLICE DECIDED TO ATTACK, ARREST AND INTIMIDATE HIS FAMILY AS WELL.

AFTER A YEAR OF KILLING AND SHOOTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE POLICE INCLUDE MAKING SURE THAT THE BODIES OF MURDERED LONG BEACH RESIDENTS BE SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

THIS RECOMMENDATION TAKES THE STANCE THAT THE POLICE PRESUMPTIVELY WILL MURDER MORE OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

OF COURSE, FAMILY MEMBERS SHOULDN'T BE RE-TRAUMATIZED BY THEIR, THE BODIES OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS BEING EXPOSED.

BUT THIS IS SO FAR BELOW WHAT THE

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WHAT IS THE POINT OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IF YOU CAN'T EVEN TAKE A FIRM STANCE AGAINST POLICE, MURDER, OR MAKE A SINGLE RECOMMENDATION THAT EXPLICITLY MAKES US SAFER, INSTEAD OF JUST TAKING A REACTIVE APPROACH TO VIOLENCE BY THE POLICE.

IN ANOTHER OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU ADMIT THAT OFFICERS HAVE A PATTERN OF HANDCUFFING OUR NEIGHBORS TOO TIGHTLY.

BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T CALL THEM NEIGHBORS, THEY DON'T CALL THEM RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T SHOW ANYTHING TO SHOW THAT THESE ARE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THEY REFER TO THEM AS SUSPECTS AND REVEALS THE BIAS BEHIND THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND AS ALWAYS, THIS RECOMMENDATION PUTS THE BURDEN ON COMMUNITY TO BE CALM AND COMPLIANT AS THEY'RE BRUTALIZED.

WHICH OF COURSE THEN GIVES THE COPS THE DISCRETION TO SCAPEGOAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE HARMED.

THERE IS NOTHING IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY SAFER FROM THE POLICE.

EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED IS ABOUT PLACATING THE COMMUNITY AFTER THE POLICE HARMS THEM OR ABOUT REDUCING LIABILITY COSTS FOR THE CITY.

THAT ISN'T OVERSIGHT AND THAT ISN'T ACCOUNTABILITY.

WHAT IT IS, IS COLLUSION.

IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY, THEN DEMAND JUSTICE FOR BRANDON BOYD AND ALL THOSE SHOT AND KILLED BY LBPD, THOSE OFFICERS NEED TO BE FIRED EXPEDITIOUSLY.

AND HONESTLY, THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR WEAPONS STRIPPED FROM THEM.

'CAUSE THEY'VE SHOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN, THEY CANNOT HANDLE THE USE OF THESE DANGEROUS WEAPONS.

AND THEY DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN MORE MILITARY EQUIPMENT AS THEY WERE AS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

DO NOT JUST PASS THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH AS IS THEY ARE DISMALLY POOR AND THEY MUST BE STRENGTHENED BEFORE PUSHING THROUGH.

UH, MS. NETTE MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION, AND I THINK THAT WE KNOW THAT CITY BUREAUCRACY MOVES REALLY SLOW IF YOU PUSH THESE THROUGH AS IS, IT'S GONNA BE MONTHS, YEARS BEFORE WE GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO ACTUALLY PUT THROUGH GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? GOOD EVENING.

UM, MY NAME IS MARIANNE DRUMMOND.

UM, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND UM, I'LL JUST SECOND WHAT WAS JUST SAID.

UM, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT IN TIED TO WHAT WAS SAID WHEN POLICE ARE ARE DEALING WITH FAMILY MEMBERS, I'M WONDERING ABOUT A RECOMMENDATION THAT NEEDS TO REALLY FRAME WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ANTICIPATE NEIGHBORS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEIR REACTIONS AND DEAL WITH AND RESPOND TO THAT COMPASSIONATELY AND, AND, UM, HUMANLY.

UM, AND, AND THEN I ALSO WANNA RECOMMEND A FIRST RECOMMENDATION.

UM, FIRST NUMBER ONE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO, UM, TO IMPLEMENT THIS IS TO NOT KILL PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

ANY PLEASE COME FORWARD.

THE FAMILY, IF YOU WERE A SISTER, YOU MIGHT'VE THEN JUMPED AND RAN TOWARD HIM TO SAVE HIS LIFE.

HELLO, .

UM, OH GOSH.

SO I'M MELISSA, AND AS USUAL, I HATE BEING HERE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SAY NICE TO SEE YOU, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO LOOK, I'M A COMMS PERSON AND SO I WAS READING THROUGH THE NARRATIVE AND KUDOS AND DITTO TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SHARED.

UM, THE, THE INCIDENT REPORT, IT SAYS POLICE WERE DISPATCHED ON NOVEMBER 19TH, UH, THE EVENING THAT THEY KILLED BRENDAN BOYD.

A WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

A DAD, A BROTHER, UH, THEY WERE DISPATCHED, UM, TO A REPORT OF A MAN WITH A GUN.

THE FAMILY, THE BOYD FAMILY IS STILL ASKING FOR A FULL RELEASE OF THE 9 1 1.

WE THINK IT WAS A TEXT MESSAGE THAT WAS SENT THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS NARRATIVE.

THIS NARRATIVE TOTALLY TAKES THE STORY INTO THIS DIRECTION.

INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT THEY WERE RESPONDING TO A CALL FOR HELP, UM, THEY TALK ABOUT HIM AS A SUSPECT IMMEDIATELY.

BRANDON WAS CALLING FOR HELP.

HE WAS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.

BLACK MAN TEXTED FOR HELP IS CALLED A SUSPECT.

IN PARAGRAPH, SENTENCED TO IN THIS REPORT, UM, IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY AGAIN, IF, IF MY FORMER ALLY SHARED IT TALKS ABOUT PUTTING A, A SHIELD OR SOMETHING, A COVERING OVER BRANDON'S BODY.

AGAIN, HIS THREE SISTERS, WHO IF YOU IMAGINE YOU'RE THERE, YOU ARE WATCHING THIS SITUATION WHERE YOUR BROTHER'S NOT BEING DEESCALATED, WHERE HE'S BEING TREATED AS A CRIMINAL IMMEDIATELY.

AND, AND HIS HANDS ARE IN THE AIR.

THE POLICE THROW A, UM, MILITARY GRADE FLASH BOMB, AND THEY SHOOT AND KILL HIM.

UH,

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UM, THEY WERE THEN THREE OF THE SI, TWO SISTERS AND A NIECE WERE THROWN INTO A POLICE CAR WHERE THEY HAD TO SIT FOR HOURS.

I WAS OUTSIDE TRYING TO FIND THE FAMILY MEMBERS, SUPPORTING A SISTER HERE, LOOKING FOR A FAMILY.

THEY WERE SITTING IN THE CAR STARING AT HIS BODY THAT WAS NOT COVERED.

AND WE, FROM A DISTANCE BEHIND THE POLICE LINE UNTIL KAREN CAME OUT AND THEY MOVED US FURTHER BACK, WE WERE ABLE TO STILL SEE HIS BODY NOT COVERED.

THE LACK OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR A MAN WHO HAD A BLACK BODY, WHO HAD CALLED POLICE FOR HELP IS ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT NICE TO SEE YOU ALL.

IT'S NOT GREAT TO BE HERE.

THAT HAS TO CHANGE AND THAT HAS TO CHANGE IN BE EVEN MORE CRITICAL AND BRAVE AND THOUGHTFUL AND COMMUNITY CENTERED IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE CHANGES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHECKLIST TO FEEL LIKE, SURE, WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS.

REALLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS BIAS, BIGOTRY, RACISM NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT EVERY LEVEL OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

NEXT SPEAKER.

HELLO, MY NAME IS LORI LOGAN.

I LIVE IN THE FIRST DISTRICT AND I HAVE A POEM ABOUT POLICE COMMISSIONING.

POLICING HAS A HAUNTING HISTORY SEARCHING FOR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANTED TO BE FREE, ENSLAVING PEOPLE THAT WERE FREE SO THEY COULD COLLECT A FEE.

DEAD BODIES WITH NO REGRET.

DARK BODIES WERE SOMETHING TO FORGET.

THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED FOR THE BETTER.

ONLY WEARING NICE UNIFORMS THAT GET MORE CHEDDAR JUSTICE FOR ALL IS NOT THE WAY.

SOME DON'T GO HOME THE NEXT DAY.

THE LAW SEEMS VERY GRAY, ALLOWING POLICE TO GET THEIR WAY.

THE ONES THAT OVERSEE ONLY LISTEN TO THE POWERS THAT BE FILLING A SEAT TO DO NOTHING WHILE WE ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING.

YOUR JOB IS TO KEEP THINGS THE SAME BY ALLOWING THEM TO PLAY THE BLAME.

GAME VICTIMS ARE PORTRAYED AS BAD WHILE THE KILLER IS PROCLAIMED AS A GREAT DAD.

THE EXCUSES FILL THE AIR WHILE THE COMMUNITY HAS TOO MUCH TO BEAR.

PROTECT AND SERVE ARE JUST INACTIVE VERBS.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

HI, UH, MY NAME IS VICKI.

I'M A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND I WASN'T EVEN PLANNING ON SPEAKING THIS EVENING.

UM, BUT THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS THAT I FEEL I NEED TO SAY.

UM, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN IN A CHAMBER.

PREVIOUS WAS THE OLDER CHAMBER WHEN I WAS ADVOCATING FOR, UH, TONIGHT I'M HERE IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE BOYD FAMILY.

BUT AT THAT TIME I WAS ADVOCATING FOR JUSTICE FOR, UM, MR. FRED TAFT.

AND THIS THINGS NEED TO CHANGE.

THIS REPORT LOOKS LIKE IT, A LOT OF TIME WAS PUT INTO IT.

THERE'S, UM, A LOT OF HOPE AND KIND OF POSITIVITY IN IT.

UM, BORDERING ON MAYBE EVEN TOXIC POSITIVITY AND WISHFUL THINKING.

I KNOW WE ALL WANT BETTER, BUT UNTIL WE'RE READY TO LOOK INTO THE EYES AND THE FACE AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE UGLY, UNCOMFORTABLE, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, PUT POLITICAL ENTITIES UP AGAINST EACH OTHER THAT NORMALLY LIKE TO WORK IN HARMONY.

UM, I, I DON'T WANNA KEEP COMING TO THESE MEETINGS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY MY, I DON'T FEEL ENTITLED WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY MY RETIREMENT AND NOT FEEL AS IF THE CITY THAT I LOVE KEEPS GOING THROUGH THE SAME MOTIONS.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A CLOSING STATEMENT, .

THIS IS A VERY LINEAR, UM, COMMENT I WANNA MAKE, UM, TONIGHT.

BUT, UM, FAMILIES SHOULD NOT BE COMING TO THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS.

UM, AND THEIR ALLIES SHOULD NOT BE HAVING TO COME TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM.

THIS, THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY TAKES CARE OF BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT.

AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE KIND OF BEGGING, BEGGING FOR SCRAPS.

RECOMMENDATION FOUR AGAIN.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

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GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS TIARA BOYD.

I'M THE ELDEST SISTER OF BRANDON BOYD.

AND I'M FORTUNATE I WAS A VICTIM OF THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE NIGHT OF NOVEMBER 19TH.

SO A LOT OF THE THINGS, UM, LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

I KNOW WHAT I SAID LAST TIME.

I HEARD EVERYTHING YOU ALL JUST SAY.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

BUT THIS CONVERSATION, AND I DECIDED TO GO LAST ON PURPOSE, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO SAY IT QUICKLY, REMINDED ME OF, UH, SOME FORMER DEBATES ON MY SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM.

AND IT REMINDED ME OF SOME GREAT PROFESSORS THAT I RAN INTO WHILE BEING A STUDENT AT UCLA THAT REMINDED ME.

EV I AGREED WITH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE YES, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMEBODY'S LISTENING, BUT EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS TRUE.

WE HAVE TO START MY UNDERSTANDING.

YOU CANNOT USE THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO GO UP AGAINST.

MY BROTHER WAS NOT A SUSPECT.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST THING THAT WAS CHANGED IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

WE'RE LIKE, THIS REPORT IS DIFFERENT THAN THEIR REPORT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THEIR, YOUR ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD HOPE IN NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS, YEAH, IS IT A PSYCHOLOGIST? IS IT A SWORN IN PERSON? BUT IT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMEONE IN THE MIDDLE IF, IF POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, I HAVE TO TRUST THE PEOPLE WITH WHOM MURDERED MY BROTHER TO NOW GIVE ME ANSWERS.

LAST TIME I CAME AND SPOKE TO YOU, ALL THE SAME PERSON WHO IS SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INVESTIGATING MY BROTHER'S MURDER, ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNING THE WARRANTS FOR ME TO GO TO GET MORE CHARGES PUT AGAINST ME WHEN I GO TO JAIL.

IT, IT STARTS HERE.

I APPRECIATE THIS.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

BUT WE, THESE CHANGES THAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

AND, AND JUST LIKE QUICKLY WITH MY LAST FEW MINUTES, UM, YES FOR RECOMMENDATION ONE, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.

IT'S VERY MUCH IMPORTANT.

I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANYTHING E EVEN IF I WASN'T A VICTIM THAT NIGHT MYSELF.

JUST THAT THE LOSS OF MY BROTHER.

IN THE ABSENCE OF WHAT MY FAMILY HAS HAS EXPERIENCED, WE GET TO HEAR ANYTHING RECOMMENDATION.

TWO, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED AND I WILL TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT LATER, NEXT TIME WHEN I GET A MOMENT.

BUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS AFFECTED AND PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO SPEAK UP.

BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST US IN THIS ROOM THAT ARE LOOKING AT YOU ALL FOR HELP WITH WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.

RECOMMENDATION THREE, I FELT LIKE I WAS BEING TORTURED.

PLEASE DO SOMETHING.

SHOW SOME DISCRETION, DO SOMETHING TO HELP PEOPLE SO THAT MY BROTHER'S FAM BODY IS NOT LAYING THERE.

YES, PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO SPEAK.

I WAS TORTURED.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

IT'S LIKE, I, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT'S A THING, BUT HERE WE ARE.

NEXT, NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

HI, UH, MY NAME'S MICHAEL.

I'M A LONG BEACH RESIDENT AND, UH, AS EVERYONE IN LONG BEACH, I'M A NEIGHBOR OF BRANDON BOYD AND THE BOYD FAMILY.

UM, THIS IS MY FIRST POLICE COMMISSION OVERSIGHT COMMISSION MEETING.

AND I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR, UH, THE ROLE OF THIS ORGANIZATION, THIS, UH, COMMISSION, UH, IN REGARDS TO HOW TO MAKE ANNUAL REPORTS LIKE THIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

I HEARD, UM, YOU SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING I JUST HEARD.

I'M, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO SUPPORT, UM, THE END OF OUR NEIGHBORS BEING MURDERED BY OUR OWN POLICE.

UM, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT HAPPENS.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST CASE, BUT THE BRENDAN BOYD MURDER RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING, UM, HAS ACTIVATED ME.

AND, UM, I JUST THINK THERE'S SOME BASIC THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, UM, THAT WEREN'T IN THIS ANNUAL REPORT.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE, UM, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY CAN, UH, WEIGH IN ON, BUT ALL CHARGES AGAINST THE VICTIM'S FAMILY SHOULD BE DROPPED IMMEDIATELY.

THERE'S NO, THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING TO COURT AND CHARGED WITH SOMETHING AFTER THEY WATCHED BRANDON BE MURDERED BY OUR OWN, UH, LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT IS, IS LIKE, I,

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OKAY? I WATCHED THE 17 MINUTE HIGHLY EDITED VIDEO THAT WAS RELEASED OF LIKE DOZENS OF PROBABLY BODY CAMS FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

AND I GOTTA SAY THAT 17 MINUTE VIDEO MADE LBPD LOOK REALLY BAD.

AND IF THAT WAS THE BEST THAT LBPD COULD DO TO KINDA LIKE, MAKE THEMSELVES NOT LOOK REALLY BAD, THEY DID.

LIKE, WOW, WHAT ELSE IS, ARE WE NOT SEEING? SO I, I THINK THE DEMAND THAT RELEASE ALL OF THE FOOTAGE, LET PEOPLE SEE IT.

OKAY? AND IF YOU CAN'T, WHY, WHY NOT YOU? BUT IF THE LBPD CAN'T GIVE THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, WHY DO WE HAVE BODY CAMS ANYWAY? IF YOU GET TO JUST EDIT AND CLIP TOGETHER, YOUR FAVORITE 17 MINUTES, OKAY? ALSO THE 9 1 1 CALLS OR TEXTS, THOSE SHOULD BE RELEASED AS WELL.

UM, ALL OF THESE THINGS JUST SPEAK TO A, A PATTERN IN LONG BEACH AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY OF POLICE OBSTRUCTION.

AND A LOT OF COMMISSIONS LIKE THIS, FRANKLY, ARE THERE TO KINDA LIKE PUT A NICE PUBLIC FACE ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE OBSTRUCTION THAT THE POLICE IS DOING.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S IN ALL OF YOUR HEARTS AND WHAT PUTS YOU ON THIS COMMISSION, BUT I WILL SAY THE, YOU KNOW, THE QUICK READ ON THIS ANNUAL REPORT IS YOU GUYS SHOULD BE COMING A LOT HARDER AT THE LBPD UNLESS YOU'RE JUST FRIENDS WITH THE LBPD AND YOU'RE TRYING TO LIKE, GIVE A LITTLE PEP TALK TO THEM TO DO BETTER.

OKAY? ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT WERE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE COPS MURDER ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH, WE'RE, HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ALYSSA GUTIERREZ AND UM, I ALSO DIDN'T EXPECT TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT I WANTED TO ADD MY VOICE, UM, TO SUPPORT THE BOYD FAMILY AND, UM, TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE REALLY PERSONAL, YOU KNOW WHAT? BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO BRANDON ACTUALLY MAKES EVERYBODY DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES LESS SAFE.

SOMEBODY VERY CLOSE TO ME WAS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS JUST THIS WEEK AND I TOLD THEM THEIR MOTHER WANTED TO CALL THE COPS AND TO GET THEM SUPPORT, GET A, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, UM, TEAMS OVER WITH PSYCHIATRIC HELP.

AND I SAID, DON'T CALL THEM.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY.

THIS IS A, A BROWN MAN WHO IS IN A LOT OF PAIN AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE PERCEIVED IN A WAY THAT ENDS HIS LIFE.

AND THAT'S REAL AND THAT'S AWFUL.

AND I AM A SOCIAL WORKER BY TRAINING.

I'M AN MSW AND I AM A PROFESSIONAL SOCIAL WORKER.

AND I SAID, DO NOT CALL FOR THE HELP THAT IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT COULD MEAN AN END TO YOUR LIFE.

SO I JUST, I WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.

AND WE NEED YOU TO, TO HELP US IMPROVE THINGS.

AND I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU ON THIS COMMISSION PERSONALLY, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOOD PEOPLE WHO WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING AND WANT TO BE THE BEST ADVOCATE.

SO I'M ASKING YOU TO LEAN INTO THAT STRENGTH AND, AND, YOU KNOW, BE A, A, A TRUE ALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE SAFER.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

UM, HI EVERYBODY.

TIFFANY BOYD.

I'M THE BABY SISTER, THE FAMILY.

UM, I SPOKE TO Y'ALL LAST TIME AND I WASN'T GONNA SAY NOTHING THIS TIME.

'CAUSE TO BE HONEST, I'VE BEEN JUST DISENCHANTED BY THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

UM, AND THEN THE GENTLEMAN SAID TWO THINGS THAT WAS LIKE, DAMN.

AND IT WAS, THEY SHOULDN'T LIKE THAT, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO COURT.

THAT WAS POWERFUL.

Y'ALL FELT THAT, HUH? LIKE THAT'S REAL, RIGHT? UM, AND THEN THE WHO YOU ARE THAT GOT YOU TO THIS SEAT AND IT, IT BROUGHT ME UP

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HERE.

IT BROUGHT ME UP HERE BECAUSE I MYSELF AM A COMMISSIONER FOR THE COMMISSION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

I SERVE FOR LOS ANGELES COUNTY UNDER, UH, JANICE HA SUPERVISOR JANICE HAHN.

AND WE OVERSEE DCFS, THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES.

AND WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE CONSTANTLY IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT BRING US THINGS THAT WE JUST CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT.

LET'S BE HONEST, AS A BODY THAT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION.

WE DON'T HAVE THE TYPE OF OVERSIGHT THEY THINK WE HAVE.

WE HAVE WHEN WE'RE IN THERE, AND I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW YOUR ROLE, BUT I KNOW THE LAST TIME I SAT HERE AND POURED MY HEART OUT TO YOU AND I ENTRUSTED MY FAMILY AND OUR TEARS TO YOU THE VERY NEXT DAY.

AND TO THE DATE, IF YOU LOOK UP THE DATE WE WAS HERE THE NEXT DAY, THEY ADDED CHARGES ON MY SISTER.

I TRIED TO BE HOPEFUL, RIGHT? BUT UNDER THOSE KIND OF CIRCUMSTANCES, AFTER GOING THROUGH WHAT MY FAMILY ALREADY WENT THROUGH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE NEXT COURT DATE FOR MY SISTER, AFTER HAVING A COURT DATE ON HER DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET HER ARM FIXED AND HAVING TO RUSH TO COURT AND THEN HAVE TO BE RUSHED ACROSS TOWN TO MAKE IT TO HER DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, HER NEXT BIRTH, HER NEXT APPOINTMENT FOR COURT IS ON MAY 22ND.

NOBODY IN THE BUILDING CAN UNDERSTAND HOW INSENSITIVE THAT IS TO ASK MY SISTER TO COME TO COURT ON MY BROTHER'S BIRTHDAY TO JUSTIFY.

AND I SAY, THIS RAWLY GETTING HER ASS WHOOPED BY THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S NOT OKAY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PUT YOU HERE.

AND ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT MY COMMISSION IS I DO MORE AS AN INDIVIDUAL THAN I COULD EVER DO AS A COMMISSIONER OR IN THAT BODY.

AND IT'S WHY THEY PUT ME THERE, RIGHT? AND I USED TO THINK THAT SITTING ON THE COMMISSION MADE ME POWERFUL.

NO, IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS POWERFUL.

THEY PUT ME ON THAT COMMISSION AND I MOVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD THAN Y'ALL.

I'M MOVE IN CHILD WELFARE, MY NAME THROW WEIGHT IN CHILD WELFARE.

I'M ASSUMING YOUR NAME THROWS WEIGHT IN THE STREETS THAT YOU REPRESENT AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

NOT IN THIS ROOM, IN THE CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL ARE HAVING ABOUT THIS OUTSIDE OF THESE SPACES AND THE HALLWAYS IN THE ELEVATORS AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHERE I IMPLORE YOU TO UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S LIVES AND MY FAMILY ON DOWN HAS BEEN AFFECTED.

AND Y'ALL DRIVING OUR FAMILY TO THE STAIRS WITHOUT EVER ADDRESSING MY BROTHER'S RIGHT TO CALL FOR HELP WHILE HE WAS ON THE STAIRS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND THINK ABOUT THAT, HOW STRESSFUL THIS MUST HAVE BEEN, HOW HARD THIS CAN BE ON PEOPLE, HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO PLAY A ROLE OF A MAN WHO'S NO LONGER HERE AND TAKE ON HIS RESPONSIBILITIES, HIS CHILDREN, AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT COMES WITH.

AND I JUST IMPLORE YOU TO THANK YOU.

FEEL THAT THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE, UH, CHAIR PARKIN BEFORE YOU GUYS VOTE, IF IT'S OKAY.

UM, I JUST WANNA ADD TWO LITTLE THINGS.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE FAMILY FOR ANY PART OF THIS REPORT THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL, UM, TO THE INCIDENT.

WE DO SPECIFICALLY USE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PRESS RELEASES, ALTHOUGH THAT MAY BE HARD TO READ.

AS THEY ARE STATED, IT IS NOT OUR EVENT, SO WE CAN'T ADD INFORMATION TO IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLICLY, PUBLICLY PRINTED.

SO I DO WANNA JUST CLARIFY THAT.

UM, SECOND, IN REGARD TO ANY OF THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS, WE DON'T ADDRESS THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS DIRECTLY UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION.

SO BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THESE INCIDENTS YET, THERE WON'T BE RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIFIC TO THEM.

SO THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED.

ISSUES AND CONCERNS WILL BE ADDRESSED BASED ON TACTICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ONCE WE RECEIVE THE ENTIRE REPORT.

SO, UM, JUST KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE COMING AS SOON AS OPO RECEIVES THE REPORT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

SO I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST CLARIFY THAT IN THIS MOMENT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION? YES.

I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

UM, BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER DISCUSSION HAS CLOSED, I'M A, I'M IN, I'M A FREQUENTLY EXPERIENCED PUBLIC COMMENT TO INFORM THE ITEM THAT'S BEING VOTED UPON.

SO IS THERE MORE DISCUSSION THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THIS ITEM? BECAUSE WE JUST HEARD SOME COMPELLING THINGS PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE.

YOU'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS, I'M SORRY YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS BEFORE YOU VOTE.

I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA MAKE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT BEFORE A VOTE IS CAST.

I WOULD APPRECIATE.

I THINK WE JUST HEARD SOME REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I DON'T WANNA

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DISCOUNT.

OH YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

YOU'RE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.

YOU JUST CAN'T RESPOND.

YEAH.

UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, CAN WE DO PROCEDURALLY, CAN WE SAY WE WANT SOME CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK? UM, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? IF WE CAN, JUST TO CLARIFY BEFORE THE CHAIR STEPS IN, UM, WE CAN CHANGE THE REPORT TO SAY SUBJECT.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BROWN.

UM, SO THE ITEM, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR EVERY WORD YOU SAID.

UM, AND I BOTH HONOR AND RESPECT HOW DIFFICULT IN A WAY THAT I WOULDN'T BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND.

SO I WANNA LOOK RIGHT AT YOUR FACES AND SAY THANK YOU.

AND I'M DEEPLY, DEEPLY SORRY FOR WHAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED WITH THAT.

UM, I THINK WE HEARD SOME COMPELLING THINGS.

AND SO MY WONDERING IS AROUND WHAT WE MAY DO TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK.

UM, DIRECTOR CARRIAGE, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU RESPONDED, WHICH IS ALSO NOT SOMETHING THAT COMMONLY HAPPENS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID IS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE INCIDENTS THAT WERE RECORDED.

AND I REALIZE THAT PROCEDURALLY THAT MAY BE ACCURATE, BUT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND SO WHEN DO WE PUSH ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS DO TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE? I HEARD A VERY SIMPLE ASK, WHICH WAS, CAN WE NOT REFER TO A HUMAN AS A SUSPECT WHEN WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD THE INFORMATION IN THIS WAY? NOT IN A PROCEDURAL REPORT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT EACH SPEAKER ADDRESSED IN SOME WAY AND IT SEEMS LIKE COULD BE VERY VALUABLE AND AN OFFERING IN A TRAGIC CIRCUMSTANCE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD THE IDEA OF SOME RECOMMENDATION OR SOME MODIFICATION TO THAT IDEA.

I I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.

AND, AND I WOULD REALLY MOVE, UM, TO SEE US TRY TO STRETCH INTO SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS.

'CAUSE IF WE ACT AS THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, UM, WE'LL GET WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS GOTTEN.

VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.

SO I'M GONNA ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION AND THEN MAKE A COMMENT.

UM, PROCEDURALLY CAN WE ASK FOR MODIFICATIONS FOR, TO HAVE THIS REPORT MODIFIED IN ANY WAY AND BROUGHT BACK TO US? UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT, I MEAN YOU GUYS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT AND I GET THAT.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THERE WERE, IT SEEMS TO ME, FOR EXAMPLE, MY CONCERN ABOUT SPEEDINESS SHOULD BE RAISED HIGHER.

HAVING HEARD WHAT WE'VE HEARD SPEEDINESS OF REPORTING, SPEEDINESS OF INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, ON THE PART WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE, UM, FULL INVESTIGATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEFORE WE INTERNAL AFFAIRS, BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND THAT.

WELL, OKAY, THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THE CHARTER.

I GET THAT, BUT I DON'T WANNA WAIT.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THAT STREET CORNER BUREAUCRAT COMES IN.

UM, THAT'S WHAT SLOW WALKING STUFF AND I'VE BEEN A BUREAUCRAT.

I KNOW HOW TO SLOW WALK STUFF.

UM, AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SLOW WALKING THE REPORT SO THAT WE CAN'T ACT ON ANYTHING RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT IT UNTIL WE GET IT.

THAT'S IN THE CHARTER.

THAT PART'S GOOD.

THAT PART'S OKAY.

THE PART THAT'S NOT OKAY IS THAT DON'T, CAN WE IN ANY WAY PUT DIRECT PRESSURE IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HEY GUYS, DO IT.

JUST DO IT FASTER, BETTER.

UM, AND THAT'S MY REAL, THAT'S WHERE I CAN SEE WHERE WE CAN COME IN MORE STRONGLY.

UM, AGAIN, NOT TO SPEAK I THE USE OF THE WORD SUSPECT, IT'S WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS FOR HELP.

I MEAN, THERE WERE A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT I SAW IN THE, IN THE EDITED TAPE THAT AREN'T IN THE, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE CRITICAL INCIDENT.

UM, BUT WE NEED TO, I, I'LL START CRYING 'CAUSE I, THIS IS THE HARDEST THING I'VE DONE ON THIS COMMISSION.

SO,

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WE, WE WILL COMMIT TO DOING THAT BEFORE WE RELEASE IT.

THE REPORT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

SO REGARDING BRINGING IT BACK, THIS IS THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING NOW TO PUT IN THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT DONE WITHOUT THE NEED TO BRING IT BACK.

UM, REGARDING THE TIMELINESS, THE REASON WHY IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN OUT INTO DETAIL IS BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE AN ENTIRE AUDIT AND A REPORT REGARDING TIMELINESS AND ALLEGATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, THAT WILL GO INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN THIS REPORT CAN.

AND JUST TO SHOW MY HAND AND I'LL, I'LL DO THAT NOW PUBLICLY, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE TO EXPOSE THE PROBLEM BEFORE YOU CAN EMBED YOURSELF INTO THE SOLUTION.

SO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SHOWING THAT THEY'RE SLOW, UH, NOT COMPLETELY THOROUGH AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS, THAT'S WHERE WE CAN GIVE THEM ENOUGH DATA THROUGH AN AUDIT TO SAY THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT MEANS AND IT INCORPORATES US BEING INVOLVED BEFORE YOU COMPLETE THE ACTUAL, UH, CASE ITSELF TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT.

YOU USUALLY JUST DON'T COME OUT SWINGING WITH THAT INFORMATION UNLESS YOU HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT THE SOLUTION.

UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE ISSUE BEHIND THAT.

AND, AND IF I COULD ASK, IT ISN'T JUST THE ANNUAL REPORT WHERE YOUR OFFICE WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO AS YOU GATHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE JUST DESCRIBING, THERE CAN BE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IT ISN'T ONCE A YEAR OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER OROZCO? YES.

UH, CAN YOU CLARIFY ONE THING? I THINK YOU SAID THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE REPORT TO SAY SUBJECT, I THINK IS WHAT YOU SAID.

YEAH, WE ARE.

SO TO CHANGE IT, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE REPORT TO SAY SUBJECT.

TO ADD THE WORD SUBJECT, YES.

AND TAKEOUT SUSPECT.

GOT IT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? DISCUSS COMMISSIONER BENDER.

SO WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE? AND I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD FROM THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, I MEAN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT, ONCE WE, ONCE YOU THEN GET ALL OF THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS, DO THE AUDIT, I GUESS WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE THEN TO SAY, OKAY, WE NOW HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THIS.

DOES, DO WE HAVE TO BRING IT UP? UH, YOU KNOW, DOES THE COMMUNITY HAVE TO BRING IT UP? IS THIS AUTOMATIC, LIKE THE NEXT MEETING, THE OKAY, WE MAY HAVE MORE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH, NO, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRITICAL INCIDENTS, UH, THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, THE WAY WE DO IT IS ONCE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS HAD A FINDING ON THE CASE, IT GOES BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S WHEN THE CASE IS TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED CLOSED FROM THE LEGAL PART OF IT.

BUT THERE STILL COULD BE POLICY IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN GET THE CASE BACK AND DECIDE THEY WANNA HAVE AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION ON IT.

SO THE WAY THAT THE CHARTER WAS WRITTEN PRIOR TO ME ARRIVING WAS THAT THE OPO RECEIVES CASES, COMPLAINTS, AND ANYTHING ELSE IN THEIR ENTIRETY AT THE COMPLETION.

SO I CAN ASK FOR INFORMATION FOR CLARITY TO BRING TO YOU ALL TO KIND OF GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

BUT I WILL NOT HAVE THE FULL PICTURE TO MAKE COMPLETE RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL I HAVE THAT FILE.

SO ONCE THAT'S DONE, A REPORT WILL PROBABLY BE WRITTEN ON EACH INCIDENT, EACH, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS AND IT'LL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION THAT, AND INVOLVE THE PUBLIC AND ALSO BE LISTED ON OUR WEBPAGE.

UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE DA MAY COME BACK WITH A FINDING.

SO THAT BEING SAID, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S CASE, SO POTENTIALLY, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FELONY CHARGES MM-HMM .

THERE MAY NOT BE ANY TYPE OF CONCLUSION.

I MEAN, FOR THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS THREE YEARS.

SO, AND THEN CASES MOVE VERY SLOWLY THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM.

SO ARE, ARE WE, AND I DON'T MEAN YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR, BUT ANY CRITICAL INCIDENT ARE WE, THAT MEANS WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE WAITING 3, 4, 5 YEARS BEFORE WE GET, BEFORE YOUR OFFICE GETS AN INVESTIGATION PACKAGE IN HAND TO EVEN START AN AUDIT.

THAT'S POSSIBLE.

AND WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WAITING ON REGARDING THE CASE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY INTENDS TO FILE CHARGES AGAINST THE OFFICERS.

IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY DO FILE CHARGES, THAT IS A SEPARATE PROCESS.

AND THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT'S DONE.

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UM, AND WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AT THE SHOOTING.

UM, THE CRITICAL INCIDENT DEBRIEF, WHICH TYPICALLY HAPPENS WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK OR SO, WE CAN RAISE CONCERNS TO THE CHIEF, UM, AND HIS EXECUTIVE STAFF ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WANT ADDRESSED MORE IMMEDIATELY, ESPECIALLY SAFETY ISSUES, POLICY CONCERNS, PROCESS PROCEDURES.

BUT THEN TO GET THE ENTIRE CASE, I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE DEPARTMENT IS PRETTY MUCH DONE WITH IT.

AND THAT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM THREE MONTHS TO FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS.

UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DA'S WEBSITE, I THINK I SAW A CASE ON THERE THAT THEY JUST FINALLY WROTE THE FINDINGS ON.

IT WAS A 2019 CASE OR NO? YEAH, 2019 CASE RUCO.

YEAH.

SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP.

SO IS, I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE ANNUAL REPORT IT WOULD BE NEEDED, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO GET DEFINITIONS OF THESE WORDS? SO LIKE, SUSPECT SUBJECT, UM, JUST TO BETTER CLARIFY KIND OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE USE OF THOSE TERMS CORRELATES TO.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YES.

WE DID HAVE A APPENDIX IN THE BACK THAT WAS LIKE TERMS, BUT TYPICALLY, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, DEPENDING ON THE INCIDENT, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CALLED SUBJECTS AND SUSPECTS DEPENDING ON HOW THE INCIDENT STARTED.

UM, AND WITH SOME, IF IT WAS INITIALLY NO CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED, UM, EVEN IF THERE WAS A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT, WE WOULD CALL THEM A SUBJECT.

BUT IF THERE WAS IN FACT THE POTENTIAL OF A CRIME THAT HAD BEEN COMMITTED AND IN THIS SITUATION IT WOULD'VE BEEN POSSESSION OF THE GUN, THEN WE LEFT IT AT SUSPECT.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER ONES WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PRESS RELEASE KEPT IT SUSPECT THROUGHOUT, BUT WE ALTERED IT A BIT.

WE WILL JUST CHANGE IT TO SUBJECT.

BUT THE ACTUAL DETAILS, UM, THAT WENT INTO IT, WE DID NOT DEVIATE FROM THE PRESS RELEASE BECAUSE IT IS THEIR INFORMATION OF THEIR INCIDENT.

BUT THE WORDING, UM, JUST TO HAVE SOME SENSITIVITY AROUND IT, WE CAN CHANGE IT TO SUBJECT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REPORT.

COMMISSIONER.

WHY WOULD WE NOT USE THEIR NAME? I MEAN, COULD WE USE THEIR NAME? YES.

WE COULD PUT MR. BOYD OR IT HAS A HUMAN IF, I DON'T KNOW THAT.

I MEAN, SUSPECT IS DIFFERENT THAN SUBJECT.

SUBJECT IS STILL NOT VERY HUMANIZING.

SO MY WONDERING IS IN WHEN WE REPORT IN A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS, COULD WE REFER TO THE PEOPLE INVOLVED BY THEIR NAME? WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT.

ANY I, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THAT THROUGH, BUT YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS VERY IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, IF IT'S PUBLIC, UM, I THINK THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE REPORTS THAT I'VE GIVEN TO YOU WHERE THE PERSON, WE DON'T KNOW THEIR NAME MM-HMM .

UM, OR YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR NEXA KIN TO BE NOTIFIED.

MM-HMM .

IF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE.

I CAN RUN IT PAST MY ATTORNEY.

I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET FIRED IN MY FIRST YEAR, BUT I'M ALL FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING AND WHATEVER'S RIGHT.

AND IF THAT'S THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR THE INFORMATION, THEN ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I'LL JUST RUN IT PAST THE PEOPLE AND IF THERE'S NO ISSUES THEN WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT.

THANK YOU COMM COMMISSIONER SOTO.

THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE POSED AND TO BE ANSWERED IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IS TO, WHAT IS THE METRIC THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS USING OR THEY'RE TRAINING THEIR OFFICERS TO, TO USE WHEN THEY'RE GONNA VALUE A LIFE? UM, 'CAUSE I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED THERE IS THERE'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING IN REAL TIME A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

UM, JUST ON THAT SAME ISSUE, THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GONNA, UM, BRING UP ALSO TO CONSIDER USING NAMES WHEN, AT, AT ALL POSSIBLE FROM MY YEARS AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER, THAT'S ONE OF MY FIRST BATTLES THAT ALWAYS FIGHT IS TO NOT CALL MY CLIENT THE DEFENDANT, YOU KNOW, CALL BY HIS OR HER NAME.

UM, 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT THAT THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND NOT, NOT, NOT TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, CALLOUS, UM, OR, OR INSENSITIVE TO, TO, TO TO THEIR, TO THEIR EXPERIENCE.

UM, BUT MY, MY, THE MAIN POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, UM, AND I DIDN'T BRING THIS UP EARLIER BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT THIS IS VERY EARLY.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO EVEN TALK ABOUT.

THIS IS A MARATHON AS FAR AS TRYING TO CHANGE POLICY, ESPECIALLY WITH A SPECIFIC INCIDENT, UM, THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT.

AND THEN, AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY EMBEDDED IN A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM THAT, FROM THAT INCIDENT.

UM, SO I WILL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY NOW BECAUSE NOW THE DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED ABOUT SOMETIMES BEEN BUGGING ME ABOUT, ABOUT THAT INCIDENT IS IT'S A DIFFICULT, AND I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE TO THE FAMILY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT, I THINK IS A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE, WHICH IS I'VE WATCHED IT SEVERAL TIMES OF WHAT WAS RELEASED.

AND I, I'VE WORKED FOR POLICE OVERSIGHT, SO I'M, I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SECOND, YOU KNOW, MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING, POLICE ACTION AND OISS IN PARTICULAR.

AND I JUST WOULD, WHEN YOU DO REVIEW THE INCIDENT, UM, IN THE FULL REPORT, UH, ONE THING I WOULD REQUEST THAT TO HAVE A REALLY,

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AT SOME POINT, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THEY GOT TIRED OF SPENDING MONEY AND BEING THAT INCIDENT.

AND SO THEY SAID, OKAY, LET'S JUST END THIS THING.

LET'S THROW A FLASH GRENADE AND THEN, AND LET'S SEE IF THAT WORKS.

IN MY OPINIONS AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE RUSH WAS FOR.

UM, AND I WANT THAT DIFFICULT QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED IS, WHAT IS THE COST OF A LIFE? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DECIDE AS A COMMUNITY SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON OUR POLICE.

WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO.

WE'RE NOT GONNA SIT HERE WITH THIS INCIDENT.

WE GOT, IT'S, WE'VE ALREADY HIT THAT, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.

UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.

UM, AT LEAST AN ATTEMPT TO SEE WHAT ARE OUR OFFICERS BEING TRAINED AND WHAT IS COMMAND STAFF BECAUSE THEY'RE QUARTERBACKING THE WHOLE THING.

WHAT ARE THEY BEING TRAINED AS TO SAY, TO TELL THEIR, THEIR, THEIR OFFICERS, OKAY, WE'RE DONE.

LET'S BE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, EVEN THOUGH THAT INDIVIDUAL HASN'T REALLY DONE ANYTHING, BUT HE'S NOT REALLY COMPLIANT WITH OUR DEMANDS, BUT NOTHING'S BEING INSTIGATED.

ARE WE GONNA SIT HERE FOR FIVE HOURS, SIX HOURS, SEVEN HOURS? WHAT IS THAT METRIC? IS IT TWO HOURS WHERE WE'RE DONE PAYING FOR AS, AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE'RE DONE PAYING FOR THIS PERSON'S LIFE? IS IT FOUR HOURS? UM, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THAT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED IF POSSIBLE IN, IN YOUR, UM, REVIEW OF THE INCIDENT.

THAT'S IT.

VICE CHAIR.

AND IN LIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT IT, BEFORE I CAME IN, EVERYBODY CAN SEE I HAD WRITTEN ON THE FRONT.

UM, WHEN IS THE DECISION AND WHY IS THE DECISION MADE TO USE A NON-LETHAL EXPLOSIVE DEVICE? UM, THAT'S, I I, I TOO HAVE WATCHED IT.

THAT WAS THE CRITICAL MOMENT WHEN THEY USED THAT DEVICE.

UM, AGAIN, WATCHING THIS EDITED 17 MINUTES AND IT'S LIKE, WHY, WHY WHEN? AND I, I MEAN, WHY WOULD YOU USE THAT? I MEAN, AT ALL, I WOULD SAY EVER, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES.

THIS DID NOT STRIKE ME AT AGAIN, WATCHING IT AS A CIRCUMSTANCE TO USE IT.

UM, HE KEPT SAYING WHAT HE WAS, THIS IS WHEN I CRY, HE KEPT SAYING, I DON'T WANNA HURT ANYBODY.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET HURT.

AND THEN THEY DID THAT AND THAT PANIC, SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN STRESS AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED ON, ON THEIR TAPE.

UM, EDITED THOUGH.

IT WAS, YOU COULD SEE THAT.

SO I, AGAIN, FOR A LONGER AUDIT THAT ACROSS ALL KINDS OF INCIDENTS, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ASK.

ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENT? UH, I, I THINK YOU'VE VERY HEARD CLEARLY FROM THE COMMISSION THEIR CONCERNS.

UM, AND IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT SO LONG TO, FOR YOU TO GET THAT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY, I THINK THE, THE LAST TWO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE ANSWERS AND INFORMATION, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

AND, AND I THINK THIS AUDIT, IT JUST EMPHASIZES HOW IMPORTANT THIS FIRST AUDIT WE'RE DOING IS, IS HOW DO WE SPEED UP THAT INFORMATION AND, AND GET IT BACK TO US AND TO THE COMMUNITY IN A TIMELY MANNER AND STILL DO A VERY THOROUGH JOB THAT'S FAIR TO ALL THE PARTIES AND CONCERNED.

SO I, I THINK AS AMENDED IF WE CAN WE'LL USE THE NAME WHEN WE HEAR BACK FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST, IT'LL CHANGE FROM SUBJECT TO, I MEAN TO SUBJECT FROM SUSPECT.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR CHAIR.

PARKIN, JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, THE RECOMMENDATION NOTES THAT IF APPROPRIATE, APPROVE THE ANNUAL OVERSIGHT REPORT.

I JUST WANNA, SOME FEEDBACK HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME AMENDMENTS ARE INTENDED TO BE MADE.

SO IS IT THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE REPORT AS AMENDED? AS AMENDED? IT HAS BEEN.

WE AMENDED PEOPLE BE AMENDED AS THE DIRECTOR INDICATED THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE LANGUAGE IN THE REPORT FOR THE NAMING INSTEAD OF SUSPECT TO SUBJECT TO NAME.

AND WELL, IF, IF APPROPRIATE, IF APPROPRIATE TO NAME, BUT FOR SURE TO SUBJECT.

UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW, OR WE NEED, YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME ON THE ONE AMENDMENT.

I THINK THAT QUESTION WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN UNDER SUBMISSION TO THE OFFICE.

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IS THAT ANY OTHER, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT DOES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

MEMBERS PLEASE KISS VOTING ON, WE'RE VOTING ON APPROVING THE ANNUAL REPORT AT THIS TIME AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE FORWARDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SUBJECT TO THE CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT.

DESCRIBE THE INCIDENTS.

UH, IF APPROPRIATE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE'LL CHANGE IT TO THE NAME OF THE PERSON.

IF THEY DECLINE THAT WE'LL CHANGE IT FROM SUSPECT TO SUBJECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SINCE THAT CHAIR? IT APPEARS THAT THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THEN.

SO WOULD WE NEED A SECOND ON THAT? AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE.

I I DON'T SEE THAT WE WOULD NEED THE MAKER OF THE MOTION TO AGREE TO THE CHANGES.

AS A SECOND OR AGREE VICE CHAIR.

I AGREE.

IT'S A FRIENDLY EVENT.

AS A FRIENDLY, IT'S ACCEPTED BY THE VOTE.

UM, SO SOME OF THE UPDATES FOR THE OFFICE, WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED THE BUDGET, UH, BEAR PROCESS THAT'S COMING INTO PLAY.

CHAIR MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

NOT LETTING US.

IT'S NOT FOR VICE CHAIR.

TUSHNET, ARE YOU A I I CAN TAKE A VERBAL.

WE COULD HAVE THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT UPDATES.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? OH, I HAVE A SECOND.

UH, DIRECTOR CARRIAGE AN UPDATE PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHAIR PARKIN.

WE HAVE MOVED THIS ITEM TO BE A STANDALONE AGENDA ITEM JUST SO WE CAN GIVE THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THESE.

[4. 25-54786 Recommendation to receive and file Office of Police Oversight updates. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO INFORM YOU THAT WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE SALARIES TO ATTRACT AND, UM, ATTRACT AND KEEP QUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION.

WE HAVE HAD A HARD TIME, AS I'VE MENTIONED, OVER SEVERAL MEETINGS TO BRING IN AN AUDITOR.

UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE WILL HAVE AN AUDITOR STARTING ON APRIL THE SEVENTH.

UM, HE COMES WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE AUDITING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND.

SO THAT SHOULD HELP US WITH SOME OF OUR DAILY TASKS THAT WE'RE KIND OF HAVING TO KEEP UP ON.

UH, WE ARE A VERY SMALL OFFICE AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE GET PEOPLE AND THEN THEY MOVE ON TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY.

SO IT TURNS OUT WE'RE NOT AS WELL PAID, UM, IN MY POSITIONS AS WE THOUGHT WE WERE.

SO, UM, BUT WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT.

SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK OF THE STAFF HERE IN THE CITY THAT'S HELPING ME RIGHT SIZE OF THE DEPARTMENT TO ATTRACT AND KEEP, UM, THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE.

WE HAD 247 APPLICANTS FOR THE ADMIN ANALYST POSITION.

WE WILL START INTERVIEWS IN TWO WEEKS, UH, TO FILL THAT POSITION AS WELL.

THE WEBPAGE IS NOW, HAS NOW BEEN UPDATED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIST, UM, WHEN THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE.

I KNOW THAT, UH, MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME NAVIGATING AND FINDING THAT.

SO WE HAVE IT FRONT AND CENTER.

WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A STAY INFORMED BUTTON.

SO WHENEVER WE SEND OUT NEWSLETTERS OR ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK YOU ALL GOT YOUR FIRST NEWSLETTER, WHICH WE'LL BE SENDING OUT MONTHLY.

UM, THE COMMUNITY CAN ALSO BE INFORMED ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

LET'S SEE.

WE'RE ALSO GONNA START A PORTAL ON OUR WEBPAGE THAT WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMPLAINTS, LIST CONCERNS, UM, GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL, EVEN IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS.

AND THEY CAN, UM, PUT INFORMATION IN THERE REGARDING AUDIT PRIORITIES OR WHAT THEY SEE COULD BE A PRIORITY IN THE FUTURE OR COMPLIMENTS, UM, TO ANY MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

UM, AND WE WILL EVENTUALLY BE SETTING UP A SURVEY TO ASK MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE US FEEDBACK REGARDING HOW THEY WOULD LIKE THIS COMMISSION AND THIS OFFICE TO WORK.

UM, WE ARE SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT THE PEOPLE EXPECT US TO BE DOING.

UM, AND IF THERE'S, UH, SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER THAT DOESN'T REALLY RESONATE WITH THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY, THEN THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD VOICE TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS

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IN CHARGE OF CHANGING WHAT WE DO.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE.

OH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, AND I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING HOW YOU REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY GROUPS AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

HAVE, HAVE YOU HEARD HOW, COULD YOU GO THROUGH THAT ONE MORE TIME? UH, I THINK WE WERE UP TO LIKE 206.

WE CRAFTED A VERY KEEN, WE WOULD LOVE TO COME TALK TO YOU.

PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT THE OFFICE IS DOING.

WE WANNA HEAR BACK FROM YOU OR IF YOU HAVE ANY EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP WHERE WE CAN COME AND LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE CITY.

UM, I THINK SO FAR WE HAVE FOUR THAT HAVE SAID, CAN YOU COME WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THE OFFICE DOES? AND IT'S REALLY JUST MAKING SURE THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S DOING THE WORK IN THE COMMUNITY CAN LET THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE TOUCHING KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ENTITY IN PLACE WHERE THEY CAN TAKE THEIR CONCERNS WHEN IT INVOLVES, UH, POLICE MISCONDUCT OR INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE.

ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

COMMISSIONER SOTO.

MOTION CARRIES.

HELLO? UM, JUST WANNA REITERATE, UM, A LIST OF DEMANDS THAT, UM, THE FAMILY OF BRANDON BOYD HAVE ASKED FOR COMMUNITY, UH, OR I'M SORRY, HAVE ASKED AND IS SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

UM, OUR FINAL ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, WE'RE AN OPPORTUNITY GIVEN TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT TO EACH PERSON.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Police Oversight Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]

AND WE'RE HOPING THE CITY WILL FULFILL THESE DEMANDS.

FIRST IS TO RELEASE THE NINE ONE ONE TEXT OR CALL THAT LED TO THE INCIDENT WHERE BRANDON WAS KILLED BY LBPD.

SECOND IS TO RELEASE THE NAMES OF ALL FOUR OFFICERS INVOLVED.

THIRD IS TO RELEASE BODY CAM FOOTAGE, THE FULL BODY CAM FOOTAGE OF WHAT HAPPENED, FOURTH DROP ALL CHARGES AGAINST THE FAMILY.

AND OF NOTE, I BELIEVE, UH, THE FIRST TIME WE CAME AND, UH, THE SISTERS, BRANDON'S SISTERS CAME TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL.

UM, ONE OF THE SISTERS HAD COURT THE NEXT DAY, UH, COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PROVIDING COURT SUPPORT TO SIT WITH THEM.

AND THE PROCESS HAS BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY TERRIBLE.

'CAUSE THE CHARGES NEED TO BE DROPPED.

IT'S PRETTY INHUMANE.

UM, HOWEVER, THERE WERE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD REFERENCE TO IT, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL CHARGES THAT MORNING, THEN PLACED, UM, ONTO THE SISTER'S, UM, CASE, WHICH IT'S HARD TO NOT FEEL LIKE THAT WAS RETALIATORY.

SO IT, IT DOES STRIKE FEAR INTO THE HEART OF FOLKS WANTING TO COME HERE AND SPEAK.

UM, A WOMAN WAS JUST TEXTING ME.

SHE HAS BEEN FALSELY ARRESTED WHEN SHE CALLED THE POLICE FOR HELP ONCE.

UM, AND SHE WANTED TO COME SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT SHE GOT TOO SCARED TO SHOW UP.

SO THAT HAS IMPACTED PEOPLE.

UM, THE, THE FIFTH DEMAND IS TO CHARGE THE OFFICERS WHO KILLED BRANDON.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LITTLE ASTERISK BULLET POINT THAT I I WANNA BRING UP WHERE THE FAMILY ALSO WANTS A REVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES AND PROTOCOLS REGARDING RESPONSES TO CALLS FOR MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS SUPPORT.

IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS SUPPOSEDLY, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS YEAH, IT WAS WRITTEN IN YOU IN A REPORT, SOMEONE DID COME TO THE SCENE THAT WAS PART OF THE MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE.

WE'RE NOT CLEAR IF THIS PERSON IS EMBEDDED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THEY'RE AN OFFICER, IF THEY'RE PART OF ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THAT PROCESS.

I, I DID SEE A REFERENCE TO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PROCESS IN YOUR ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, THERE'S ALSO CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF NOT TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER AND DIRECTORS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER.

UH, IN PARTICULAR WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND FOLKS WHO DEAL WITH VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME, IT'S A QUESTION FOR US.

IF THIS FAMILY COULD APPLY FOR SUPPORT, THERE IS A, A CITY PROGRAM THAT WOULD SUPPORT FINANCIALLY, UM, VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME IN THE CITY.

UH, BUT WE'RE NOT CLEAR IF THEY CAN DO THAT, IF THEIR FAMILY MEMBER WAS KILLED BY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY, A POLICE DEPARTMENT MEMBER.

UM, SO THERE IS COMMUNICATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.

THE CITY NEEDS TO DO BETTER IN HAVING DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER, UM, TO FIND WAYS TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY.

UM, SO YES, WE DEFINITELY WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE RESPONSES AND CALLS TO MENTAL HEALTH.

WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY AND, AND UH, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

UM, AS I BRIEFLY MENTIONED EARLIER, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE, UM, I SECOND WHAT SHE SAID.

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THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WITNESSED WHAT HAPPENED AND UM, JUST INJUSTICES IN GENERAL WITHIN THE CITY, CITY RESPECTFULLY THAT ARE SCARED TO COME ABOUT AND LIKE HAVE A VOICE.

UNFORTUNATELY MY FAMILY HAS HAD A SPOTLIGHT PUT ON US DUE TO THE SITUATION.

SO, UM, WE CAN'T BE QUIET, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THIS PLATFORM.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU ALL KNOW YES, WE ARE GOING TO COURT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE BEEN TO COURT NUMEROUS TIMES ALREADY NOW STILL FIGHTING THESE CHARGES.

BUT WHILE I WAS THERE ONE DAY I MET A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS A GENTLEMAN, A STRANGER.

THIS IS A REAL LIFE STORY AND I'M GONNA GET IT REALLY QUICK.

I WAS AT COURT AND A STRANGER CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, I THINK I KNOW YOU, YOU ARE THE LADY FROM THE NEWS.

AND THEN HE SAID, HE ASKED ME, ARE YOU THE LADY FROM THE NEWS? AND HE SAID, NO, YOU ARE THE LADY FROM THE NEWS.

HE SAID, THAT WAS YOUR BROTHER.

THAT HAPPENED TO NEEDLESS TO SAY INSTANTLY MY FACIAL EXPRESSION.

YOU KNOW, HE SAID, FIRST OF ALL, HE SENT HIS CONDOLENCES.

HE SAID, I WANNA LET YOU KNOW I WAS THERE.

HE SAID, I WAS THERE WITH YOUR BROTHER FROM THE MOMENT THAT HE SAT THERE.

HE SAID, THE MOMENT THE POLICE ENGAGED WITH YOUR BROTHER, WE BEGAN TELLING THE POLICE, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HEY, WHY ARE YOU GUYS TREATING HIM LIKE A SUSPECT? THE MAN JUST NEEDS HELP.

WHY ARE YOU PULLING GUNS AT HIM? HEY, BACK UP.

WHY? HEY BUDDY, WHAT'S GOING ON? THEY TRIED TO SPEAK TO MY BROTHER AND THEY ALL KIND OF WERE ON THE POLICE.

LONG STORY SHORT, THIS STRANGER HAD VIDEO, THE LAST MOMENTS IN MY BROTHER'S LIFE IN HIS PHONE THAT HE SHOWED ME AND SHOWED ME OUT OF HIS OWN PHONE.

LOOK AT WHAT I HAVE IN MY PHONE.

I WITNESSED IT THAT DAY.

HE GOT TO MY BROTHER BEFORE I GOT TO MY BROTHER.

HE SHOWED ME MINUTES OF THAT DAY BEFORE I EVEN GOT TO MY BROTHER.

HE SHOWED ME FROM THE MOMENT THE POLICE ENGAGED WITH MY BROTHER DOWN TO UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS THERE AND HE HEARD THE SHOTS.

AND THE GROWN MAN TOLD ME HOW HE AND THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CLASS THAT HE WAS ATTENDING CRIED THE OTHER GROWN MEN.

NOT BECAUSE THEY HAD WITNESSED IT, BECAUSE THEY HEARD AND THEY KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT.

AND ONCE THEY HEARD THE SHOTS, THEY KNEW THEY KILLED THE MAN.

THIS WAS A STRANGER I ENGAGED WITH IN YOUR CITY, IN YOUR COURTROOMS. I'M JUST GOING TO COURT LIKE THEY ASKED ME TO.

NOT THAT I WANT TO, I JUST SHOWED UP TO COURT BECAUSE I'M SUBPOENAED TO GO A FIGHT FOR MY LIVELIHOOD AND SHOW THAT I'M WORTHY OF BEING RESPECTFUL CITIZEN WHO SHOULD BE FREE.

AND I DIDN'T DO THESE TRUMPED UP CHARGES THAT THEY BROUGHT AGAINST ME.

BUT WHILE DOING THAT, THESE IS, THIS IS MY REALITY.

I GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, I'VE GONE TO THE DENTIST.

BUT AT COURT A STRANGER SHOWED ME VIDEO OF MY BROTHER'S LAST MOMENTS IN HIS PHONE JUST TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR UM, ALSO ADVOCATING FOR THE CHANGE.

COMMUNICATION IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LEARN HOW TO TRUST ONE ANOTHER.

WE SPEAK ENGLISH IN THIS COUNTRY 'CAUSE WE'RE AMERICANS AND WE TRUST THAT WE'RE AMERICANS AND WE COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY WITH ENGLISH, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE IN MEXICO, YOU SPEAK SPANISH.

THE LANGUAGE IS IMPORTANT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT THEY CAN TRUST YOU AND THAT YOU'RE NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

BROTHER TO THE STAIRS ARE NOW OUR PROBLEMS. THEY DIDN'T GO AWAY.

YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED.

YOU HAVE A BIAS IN THIS.

THANK YOU ALL.

IF I MAY, I WANNA RESPOND TO YOUR RESPONSES 'CAUSE WE DON'T OFTEN GET A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, BUT JUST THE WAY COMMISSIONS ARE SET UP, UP AND THE OPPORTUNITY, TIFFANY, THAT'S MY NAME TOO.

THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU TOOK, UM, TO CALL IN THE SPACE FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UM, THAT WAS BIG AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND MA'AM, YOU MADE ME CRY.

UM, AND SIR, YOU BROUGHT UP SOME VERY RELEVANT POINTS AND AS ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE WHO CARRIED THE BURDEN OF BARRY AND MY BROTHER, I CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT COST.

WHAT I CAN ALSO TELL YOU IS YEAH, WE HAD A GOFUNDME AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE AND SOME, SOME PEOPLE ON MY SIDE WAS ABLE TO DONATE OR WHATEVER THAT 'CAUSE THEY DO OUR FAMILY.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC KNEW BECAUSE THE POLICE SAID THAT MY BROTHER SHOT A COP.

WHEN ARE THEY GONNA TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAPPENED? WHEN ARE THEY GONNA TELL, LIKE AT WHAT POINT DOES THIS INVESTIGATION INVESTIGATE TO GET TO THE POINT OF THE INVESTIGATION? IS MY POINT WITH THAT? BECAUSE WE'RE BEARING THAT, RIGHT? WE'RE RAISING THIS MAN'S CHILDREN.

LOOK, ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT TOOK MY

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YOU JUST GOT THREE WOMEN DEALING WITH THE STRESS THAT A MAN COULDN'T TAKE AND DIVIDING IT AMONGST THE THREE OF US, MY FAMILY THAT THE RIPPLE EFFECTS.

SO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WAS MY FOCUS 'CAUSE Y'ALL DIDN'T DO IT.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO SHOT MY BROTHER, THEY SOMEBODY TOLD THEM TO DO IT.

THAT QUARTERBACK AND STUFF YOU TALKING, THAT'S THE PERSON I WANNA TALK TO IS WHO MADE THE DECISION, RIGHT? BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER AND THE UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS MY GRANDMA MOVED INTO THE CARLITOS WHEN THE CARLITOS WAS NAVY HOUSING.

Y'ALL KNOW THE HISTORY OF LONG BEACH.

YOU REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL PIKE WITH THE ROLLERCOASTER.

MY MAMA TELL ME STORIES OF THE ROLLERCOASTER THAT CHURCH THEY SHOT MY BROTHER IN FRONT OF.

I THINK I TOLD YOU THE STORY THAT THAT WAS THE FIRST CHURCH MY MAMA ATTENDED.

IT'S IN HIS OBITUARY.

THE, THE QUOTE FROM THE BIBLE TALKING ABOUT BEING PER PERSECUTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS SAKE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST SCRIPTURES THAT MY MOM LEARNED AND IT'S IN HIS OBITUARY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MADE THAT MY FAMILY IS GIVEN SO MUCH TO THIS CITY, DONE SO MUCH TO THIS CITY.

THIS CITY NOT ONLY TOOK MY BROTHER ON THE STAIRS OF THE CHURCH, WHATEVER BRUTALIZATION MY SISTERS WENT THROUGH PHYSICALLY, WHATEVER TORTURE THEY WENT THROUGH OF HAVING TO SIT THERE, I WAS OUTSIDE FROM LIKE 20 MINUTES AFTER THIS HAPPENED TO LIKE THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING UNTIL THEY TOOK MY BROTHER OFF THOSE STEPS.

I WAS THE ONE SITTING THERE TELLING THE POLICE, LOOK, MY GRANDMA TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING.

COME OUT IN THE WASH.

YOU GOTTA DO YOUR JOB.

I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE SEMANTICS ABOUT MY BROTHER.

WHERE ARE MY SISTERS? WHERE IS MY NIECE? WHY ARE THEY STILL GOING THROUGH THIS Y'ALL? LET ME TELL YOU REAL FAST, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THIS, EXCUSE ME, I'M HOPING NOT TO CATCH COKE 'CAUSE I GOT TWO BABIES AT HOME.

BUT AS YOU CAN HEAR, THERE'S SOMETHING TRYING TO COME UP.

I'VE ALSO BEEN SMOKING A LOT OF CIGARETTES BECAUSE OF THIS 'CAUSE I'M REALLY STRESSED OUT.

SO LET'S BE HONEST, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE TOO.

SO I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK Y'ALL ABOUT TO GET GOODIES FROM ME.

THIS COULD BE JUST MY OWN WRONGFUL DOING.

EXCUSE THE FEW SECONDS I TOOK TO MAKE THAT POINT.

DESIREE, Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW HER NAME.

RENEE ROSE BOYD.

AND HAVING TO GO TO COURT AND HAVING EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT DAY AND HER DAUGHTER AND MY FAMILY AND THAT IMPACT.

WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT MOVING OUTTA LONG BEACH, LIKE LEAVING THIS CITY BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THIS, SHE GOT CHARGED WITH NOT ONLY ASSAULT ON A POLICE OFFICER 'CAUSE SHE STRUGGLED WITH THEM.

WHATEVER THAT TUSSLE WAS, WHICH WE GOT VIDEO OF Y'ALL SHOULD SEE IT.

CRAZINESS, RIGHT? SIGHT SEEING AT THE SCENE OF A CRIME Y'ALL DID, YOU KNOW THAT WAS A, A CODE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WHERE EVERYTHING WE WENT THROUGH BEING ABLE TO FILM THE POLICE, EVERYTHING ELSE.

DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A CHARGE, A PENAL CODE IN OUR THING SIGHTSEEING AT THE SCENE OF A CRIME WHEN SHE GOT CALLED TO COME TO HER BROTHER SITTING ON THE STAIRS BECAUSE HER BROTHER WAS GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING HE WAS GOING, DO Y'ALL KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE CHARGES THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS IMPOSING UPON? MY SISTER TIARA STAR BOY IS BEING CHARGED WITH TRESPASSING.

TRESPASSING WHAT? WHERE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.