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AT OUR RAINBOW HARBOR OFFICE AT PIERPONT LANDING.UH, COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL COMMISSION, VICE CHAIR MCRAY? I AM HERE.
YOU HAVE A OUTSTANDING THANK YOU.
UH, ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS DISTRIBUTED? MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC? OKAY.
UH, NOW WE HAVE OUR, UM, AGENDA FOR, UH, THE MARI ADVISORY.
UM, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR RECOMMENDED MOTION IS TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW, UM, AND I WILL SO MOVE THAT WITH A SECOND FROM SECOND.
AND WE'RE GONNA PROCEED ON AND START LOOKING AT OUR AGENDA FOR THIS NEXT MONTH, UH, STANDARD RIGHT OFF THE BAT, UH, HOP IN, CALL THE ORDER ROLL CALL, AND THEN WE HOP INTO A REGULAR AGENDA.
AND THEN, UH, WITH THAT, NUMBER ONE IS ALWAYS APPROVING THE PREVIOUS, UH, MEETING'S MINUTES.
AND THEN WE GET INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF A MEETING.
UH, SECOND AGENDA ITEM IS RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT'S, UH, PRESENTATION AND THE COMMISSION'S LETTER REGARDING WORRIED A BALL.
UM, PIRATES WALKING, THE WALKING WHERE ALL THE RESTAURANT ROW IS, THERE'S TWO BOATS SITTING THERE, I GUESS HAVE BEEN THERE A WHILE.
THEIR LIVERBOARDS, WELL, THE PEOPLE LIVE ON THEM.
I TALKED TO ONE OF OUR, UM, FRIENDS WITH A BADGE AND HE SAID, YEAH, THEY'RE GYPSIES.
UM, AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT THEY'RE LIVING ABOARD THEIR BOAT'S NOT THERE.
THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT MOVING THEM.
WHAT WOULD STOP FROM ANYBODY LIVING ABOARD IN THE MARINA THEN IF THEY WANTED TO? BECAUSE UNDER CUR CURRENT JURISDICTION, THE DA OR OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS NOT GONNA FORCE THEM TO MOVE.
SO WHAT WOULD STOP MR. MC GRAY THAT WE WERE, WE'RE RIGHT NOW TALKING ON THE AGENDA ITEM TWO.
OH, I WAS JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT PIRATES, AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES TO OKAY.
ASK ABOUT, UM, LET'S MOVE THAT OVER TO ITEM THREE.
WHEN WE TALK TO TODD ABOUT HIS MANAGER UPDATES.
I THINK THAT FOLLOWS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION.
QUESTIONS AT THE END? NO WORRIES.
SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT AGENDA ITEM TWO? I THINK WE WANT TO OPEN IT A LITTLE BIT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FIRST ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN WITH US, US ON SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, THEY, THEY DO ANYONE HERE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY YEAH.
WELL, WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT WITH US AND OUR TREASURIES, UH, OFFICER, UH, UH, KEVIN RED AND JESSE ORTEGA.
UH, THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM YOU.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IS SPECIFICALLY TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
IT SHOULDN'T GO IN DEPTH INTO ANY SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
LYNN, DID YOU HAVE ANY GENERIC THINGS YOU WANTED TO SAY OR JUST THAT JESSE AND I WILL REPRISE OUR MARCH PRESENTATION, UH, AT THE, UM, MEETING WHEN WE, AND WILL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THAT, UM, IN ADVANCE ON OUR PACKET, SO WE'LL HAVE SOME CHANCE TO, TO GNA ON SOME OF THAT? PROBABLY NOT GIVEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON, I WILL PROBABLY FINISH THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S JUST A SLIDE DECK, HALF A DOZEN SLIDES.
I'LL PROBABLY FINISH IT AT NOON THAT DAY.
WELL, OR YEAH, EVEN IF IT'S A DRAFT FORMAT, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, INFORMATION I'VE SEEN, UM, SEEMS INCONSISTENT AND I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO FLUSH SOME OF THAT OUT IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT THERE'S ONE OR TWO THINGS GOING ON IN THE FINANCIAL WORLD RIGHT NOW AND, UH, YEAH.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE STOCK MARKET THIS MORNING KILLED ME.
SO
I'LL DO MY BEST, BUT I'M NOT GONNA PROMISE THAT IT'S, UM, EVEN IF WE HAVE, UM, AN INCREMENTAL OR SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY ON SOME OF THOSE THAT, AND I GET IT, UM, MY LIFE IS EQUALLY AS BUSY AND I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE, AND I
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THINK YOU DO HAVE SOME OF THE ADVANCED THINGS YOU CAN PROVIDE AND, BUT THERE'S JUST SOME OF THE COMPLETION NOT.UM, I SEE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR YOU WANTED TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? WELL, I GUESS JUST TO NOT THAT NOT THE ISSUES.
THEY, THEY CLEARLY HEARD WHAT TODD SAID.
WE CAN TALK TO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY ANXIOUS TO SEE THE DOCUMENTS ON THE SEVENTH STILL.
IS THAT STILL YOUR TARGET DATE? APRIL 7TH? APRIL 7TH.
I GOTTA GO THROUGH THE CHERRY.
AND I THINK, THINK HE CLEARLY SAID HE'LL, HE'S, HE'LL BE DOING HIS BEST, BUT HE MAY NOT HAVE THEM UNTIL RIGHT UP TO THE MEETING.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA HAPPEN THAT YEAH, WE CAN'T MAKE A COMMITMENT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT ALL IS GOING ON OTHER THAN OTHER THAN THIS ONE ACTIVITY AND CHAIR.
I WAS SPEAKING OF THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT JESSE AND I WILL GIVE TO THE FULL MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION ONE WEEK FROM TODAY.
I WAS NOT SPEAKING TO THE DOCUMENTS UNDERLYING THE APRIL 15TH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING.
WHICH ARE EXPECTED TO BE PUBLISHED LATE IN THE AFTERNOON ON MONDAY, APRIL 7TH.
BUT THE APRIL 15TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS OBVIOUSLY A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL WITH THE APRIL 10TH MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? WELL, I JUST, UM, WANTED TO KNOW IF, AS A RESULT OF HARRY SALTS, GIVERS, UM, ARTICLE THAT WAS IN THE GRON GAZETTE, IF THERE WAS ANY COMMENTS, ANY, ANY, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY CALLS OR BUREAU OR, AS A RESULT, BOAT OWNERS, PEOPLE PUBLIC, THE MARINE BUREAU AND, UH, PARKS RECREATION, MARINE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, RECEIVING AN INFLUX OF COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE MARINA REVENUE BOND, UH, UH, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE OUTREACH PERFORMED BY THE VOTE ORDERS ASSOCIATION.
SO, UH, YES, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, UH, A, A MODEST AMOUNT OF, OF EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED, UH, IN REGARD TO THE MARINA REVENUE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS OUR COMMISSION'S LETTER, DOES THAT COME AFTER WE PRESENT TO THE, TO THE FULL COMMISSION AND DISCUSS IT AND THEN WE DRAFT ONE? OR ARE WE TRYING TO WORK ON ONE BEFORE? GIVE ME SOME GUIDANCE.
UH, MR. MY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HAVE A DRAFT, UH, BETWEEN THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR READY TO GO BETTER MEETING, UH, FOR THE 10TH.
CAN WE, UM, INCLUDE ONE IN OUR, UM, PACKET THAT GOES OUT TO EVERYONE MM-HMM
AND THAT WAY ON THE 10TH, UH, YOUR FULL BODY, THE COMMISSIONED BODY MM-HMM
CAN ELECT OR, OR PROVE TO MOVE IT FORWARD OR NOT, UH, AS IS OR WITH, WITH CHANGES CHANGES MM-HMM
SO, UH, TO, TO REMAIN TIMELY AND THEN OUR 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THAT WITHIN THE PACKET NO LATER THAN MONDAY, THE MONDAY.
AND ACTUALLY I REALLY NEEDED MY FRIDAY.
AND THAT, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, THE TIMELINESS OF IT IS, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO AS BEST YOU CAN TO PUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON PAPER AND HAVE IT APPROVED BY THE FULL COMMISSION BODY ON THURSDAY, APRIL 10TH, SO THAT WE CAN WORK TO GET IT THROUGH, UH, THE TFF PROCESS TO FRONT FLOOR, UH, VIA THE, UH, UH, PARKS, RECREATION, MARINE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE, AND THE CITY MARINE'S OFFICE.
AND, UM, THIS GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMEND YOUR PAST PROCESSING OF THOSE DOCUMENTS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY EFFICIENT.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL COUNT ON THAT AGAIN.
UM, IF ON OUR END, UH, VICE CHAIR AND I'LL HAVE A LETTER TO YOU, UM, PRIOR TO CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON FRIDAY.
AND AGAIN, JUST COMES DOWN TO JUST, UH, BEING EFFICIENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A GOOD, UH, A SOLID CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND THEN WHETHER IT'S APPROVED AS IS OR MAKE CHANGES, UH, MAKE THOSE CHANGES THAT THURSDAY, BECAUSE WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE IT SUBMITTED INTO THE TFF PROCESS BY THAT FRIDAY.
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UH, SO APRIL 11TH, WE NEED TO HAVE IT SUBMITTED INTO THE PROCESS.AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE THE, THE PHYSICAL LETTER PRINTED OUT WITH THE SIGNATURE BLOCK SO THAT WE'RE READY ON THERE.
CAN I ASK THE, THE, THE, THE 0.25 CENTS, IS THAT TRULY AFFECTING US IN LONG BEACH WITH THE BEING ON THE FINANCIAL? WOULD THIS PLAY INTO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE, UH, I CAN I, YEAH.
WELL, 0.25 CENTS A SALES TAX IS A, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
DOES ANY OF THAT, WOULD ANY OF THAT AFFECT US OR IS IT STRICTLY GOING TO, WELL, IT'S CITYWIDE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THE, YEAH.
AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEMS TWO ON THE AGENDA, GENTLEMEN? OH, SORRY.
WAS, I THINK WE GET SOMETHING TOGETHER, SORT OF.
SO, UM, IS THIS BEING RECORDED? YES.
UM, I, SO WE HAVE, UM, BEEN ACTIVELY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARAMETERS.
AND WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ACTUALLY BOTH GENTLEMEN ON VIA, UH, EMAIL, UH, MR. BERG CAME DOWN AND, UH, DAVE AND I TOOK HIM ON A TOUR AROUND THE MARINA IN ALAMEDO BAY, AND, UM, SHOWED HIM THE BATHROOMS AND THE CONDITION OF THE DOCKS AND THE CONDITION OF EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT SHOWED HIM, WALKED HIM, HE SPENT, OKAY.
AND AS YOU RECALL, OUR AGENDA ITEM IS ONLY TALKING ABOUT THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND THE LETTER.
WELL, THAT WAS TO KIND OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING.
SO ANYWAY, THEY'RE FREEZING TO, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING NOW IS A PETITION.
UM, AND, UH, WE JUST HAVE STARTED THIS, UM, TWO DAYS AGO.
SO IT'S ONLY ACTUALLY BEEN IN SEAL BEACH.
I WAS WAITING FOR THE OUTCOME OF THIS MEETING BEFORE WE EXPANDED IT TO THE REST OF THE BOA UH, ADVISORS.
BUT WE FIGURED THAT THIS WAS A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO GET, UM, ATTENTION.
AND OUR, OUR VOICE HEARD, RATHER THAN SENDING A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL LETTERS, I HAVE SENT INDIVIDUAL LETTERS TO EACH OF THE DISTRICT PEOPLE, DISTRICT COUNCIL PEOPLE.
UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
ANYWAY, I DUNNO IF YOU WANT ME TO GET INTO MY LITTLE SPEECH ABOUT HOW THIS IS SO IMPORTANT OR THAT IT'S NOT A, I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH ALL KNOW WHERE WE FEEL, HOW WE, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE REFINANCE AND WE'RE NOT CHALLENGING THEIR AUTHORITY.
WE'RE NOT CHALLENGING THE FACT THAT THE CITY OWNS THE DOCKS.
WE'RE NOT CHALLENGING ANY OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE GOOD TIME.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S THEIR EXPERTISE.
NOT, THAT'S, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
THE ISSUE IS ABOUT THE BOND, THE COVENANT, AND WHAT HAPPENS, IT'S NOT JUST SHORT TERM, BUT LONGER TERM, THESE STOCKS ARE ALL GONNA NEED TO BE REPLACED.
IT'S SALT WATER, RIGHT? I MEAN, THINGS JUST AREN'T ONCE AND DONE.
SO WE'VE GOT THIS $35 MILLION IN RESERVES, $45 MILLION IN CASH.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ADDS UP TOGETHER OR THOSE ARE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, BUT ALL THIS MONEY AND STUFF HASN'T BEEN DONE.
SO WE NEED SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING, HOPEFULLY A PROMISE.
BUT LIKE, AS HARRY SAYS, ONE IS A PROMISE NO LONGER A PROMISE, UM, OF WHEN THE STUFF THAT'S GONNA GET DONE GETS DONE.
THE, YOU KNOW, THE BATHROOMS ARE JUST SUCH A BASIC LIGHTNING ROD AND THAT OKAY, WE'RE GETTING OFF ON THE CAPITOL PROJECTS AND AWAY FROM YOU.
WELL, IT'S ALL PART AND PARCEL ANYWAY.
THAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE IS SLIP FEE, SORRY, SLIP FEES AS WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIG INCREASE OF SLIP FEES HAVE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT DANA POINT.
SO I'LL BE DONE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM, UH, NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS REGARDING THE ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN HERE FOR COMMISSIONER'S LAST THOUGHTS.
YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE CURRENT RESERVE THAT WE HAVE IS DEDICATED TO THE MARINES.
I THINK YOU, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS ABOUT MAYBE 45 MILLION AND I THINK, I THINK 35 MILLION IN RESERVE.
THERE'S, THERE'S $45 MILLION IN CASH, AND 33 OF THAT IS
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AVAILABLE TO BE APPROPRIATED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS OR ANY OTHER USE.SO THAT 33 FALLS UNDER THE, FALLS UNDER THE PROMISE FROM THE STATE THAT MONIES GO BACK INTO THE MARINA.
'CAUSE THEY WERE RAISED DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROMISES THE STATE MADE, SO I NO, THERE'S A, THERE IS A COVENANT WITH THE STATE THAT THE SURPLUS MONEY GOES BACK INTO THE MARINA.
THE, THE STATE DBW LOAN FROM 1998.
SO-CALLED LIVE HOUSE LOAN COVENANT.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? OKAY.
THAT IS EVERYTHING ON OUR ITEM TWO.
AND, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN MARRIED TO A CPA FOR 40 YEARS, THE MONTH OF APRIL, WE NEVER SEE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MONEY.
SO IF YOU NEED TO MOVE ON AND, UH, THE EXCUSED, WE RESPECT THAT.
I BELIEVE 100% OF YOU
THE THING IS, IS STATE TAXES AND FEDERAL TAXES THROUGH OCTOBER.
NOW IN LA COUNTY, SOMEBODY ASKED ME THAT ON THE, LITERALLY ON THE WAY OVER.
AND AS IS I'M MEETING WITH THE FINANCE PEOPLE, SO I CAN ASK THEM.
SIMPLY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES ARE OCTOBER 15TH, RIGHT? LA COUNTY? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FRANCHISE TAX BOARD.
IS THAT ALSO IS THE STATE, DID THE STATE, I DON'T KNOW, THE STATE AND FEDERAL, BOTH STATE STATE TOO WENT TO OCTOBER BECAUSE OF THE FIRES, CORRECT? BECAUSE OF THE FIRES, YEAH.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT POWERPOINT OUT, BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING IN THE POWERPOINT THAT I PRESENT TO THE REN ADVISORY COMMISSION THAT WILL, THAT WILL NOT BE IN THE MONDAY, APRIL 7TH PUBLICATION OF THE APRIL 15TH COUNCIL AGENDA.
JESSICA, CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT BEFORE YOU LEAVE? THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE TO GET EMAILS FROM HIM AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
SO HE'S, HE'S BUSTING HIS BUTT TRYING TO GET, GET THROUGH THIS PERIOD RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU APPRECIATE ALL HARD WORK.
HE'S DOING THOSE GUYS ON THERE.
SEE YOU ONE ONE WEEK FROM TODAY IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR PASSING THE TEST OF FINDING US
ALRIGHT, UH, ONTO NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION, RECEIVE AND FILE THAT, UH, MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL REPORTS.
UH, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HERE? UH, YES, I BELIEVE, UM, I HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS AS DOES MR. MCRAY AND, UH, PIRATES ARE ALWAYS MORE FUN TO TALK ABOUT THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
SO,
WE DO HAVE, UM, ISSUES CONCERNING, UM, UNAUTHORIZED MOORING IN UNAUTHORIZED MOORING OR OVERSTAY IN PUBLIC MOORING LOCATIONS.
UH, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF VESSELS THAT ARE IN OUR OVERALL NEAR SHORE OCEAN AREA AND OUR MARINA'S FOOTPRINT THAT THEY, THEY LIVE ON THEIR BOATS.
THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A A MEANS OF PAYMENT AND THEY DON'T HAVE A MEANS OF ANY OTHER LIVABLE SITUATION.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY LIVE OUT ON THE NEAR SHORE OCEAN AREA, BUT THEY DO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A COUPLE, UH, STIPULATIONS THE STATE HAS FOR, UH, SAFE HARBOR.
UH, WHEN THERE IS A, UH, SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY OR A WEATHER ADVISORY, OUR MARINA SYSTEM IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SAFE HARVEST.
AND SO WE DO NEED TO BRING THE, ALLOW THEM TO COME IN OUT OF ARM'S WAY, BASICALLY.
AND THAT CREATES ISSUES SPECIFICALLY AT OUR NORTH SOUTH LAWN DOCK, UH, BY ALAMEDAS LANDING, AND THEN ALSO OVER AT, UH, DOCK 10 OVER HERE IN SHORELINE.
UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR, UH, THE PAST WEEK IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MARINE SAFETY TO, UH, DESIGNATE, DESIGNATE DOCK 10 AS OUR SAFE HARBOR LOCATION.
SO SINCE LAST FRIDAY, UH, MARINE SAFETY HAS BEEN CITING PEOPLE STAYING AT ANY OTHER OVERSTAYING THE THREE HOURS AT ANY OTHER PUBLIC MO AND ADVISING THEM, HEY, IF IT'S A SAFE HARBOR SITUATION, YOU NEED TO MOVE TO DOCK 10 IN, UH, UH, OUR DOWNTOWN COMPLEX.
SO IN THE PAST WEEK, UH, MARINE SAFETY, I BELIEVE THEY'VE, THEY'VE ISSUED OVER 10 CITATIONS, WHEREAS IN THE, THE, THE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR LEADING UP TO THAT, THEY'D ONLY, UH,
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UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? UH, GAME OUT, UH, FIVE.THEY'RE ACTIVELY ADDRESSING IT.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S AFFECTING EVERY MARINA UP AND DOWN THE SOUTHERN, UH, SOUTHERN COS OKAY.
I JUST, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THAT GOING FORWARD, YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING DO IN THE, THE COMING YEARS IN REGARDS TO OLYMPICS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHAT A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PIRATES
UH, AND YOU REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO KICK THEM OUT.
SO WHAT MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IF THEY PULLED INTO AN EMPTY DOCK, UM, A DOCK SPACE AND PULLED IN AND JUST TIED THEIR LINES OFF? AND THIS IS, HEY, I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? OR WHAT DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO? UM, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING.
WE DON'T HAVE LIVERBOARDS, WELL, WE DO HAVE LIVERBOARDS, BUT WE BOOT LIVERBOARDS OFF WHEN THEY SPEND TOO MUCH TIME.
BUT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST LIVING THERE FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS.
IT'S WHERE DO THEY FLUSH THEIR SYSTEMS? I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT COME OUT.
ARE YOU FLUSHING IT RIGHT THERE? WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHEN WE'RE BOOTING PEOPLE? I, I'LL NEVER FORGET THE OLDER GENTLEMAN THAT, THAT, THAT I WENT ABOVE HIS TIME AND WE ASKED THEM TO LEAVE.
AND THEN I HEAR ABOUT THE GYPSIES DOWN THERE.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS AND THEY STAY EVERY NIGHT.
AND THERE'S NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT.
LONG AS THERE'S SOMEBODY ON THE SHIP, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
IS THAT TRUE? OR, OH, UM, WE HAVE AVENUES OF, OF APPROACH.
WE DO, AND WE ADDRESS CONSISTENTLY AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
UH, I DON'T, I DO NOT WANT TO SAY EXACTLY HOW WE OKAY.
ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE THE INDIVIDUALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD THOSE TRADE SECRETS.
WELL, AND, AND I KNOW NO, WE DO, WE DO ADDRESS IT.
UH, WE USE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS.
WE HAVE HAD ARRESTS, UH, MADE.
UM, SO PEOPLE DO NOT GET TO STAY IN OUR MARINAS UNAUTHORIZED OKAY.
BUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE REMOVE EVERY ON ALL, THEY'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT THERE, THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA FLAGRANTLY JUST SAY, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
WELL, AND IT'S ROUGH TOO, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE OVER THERE BY ISLAND WHITE, THAT IF, IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
RIGHT? IT'S, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THE BOAT HAULED.
AND, UM, AS THEY HAVE, AS, AS TODD'S WORKED MANY HOURS ON, AND THEN WHEN WE HAD THE, UM, PADDLE WHEELER AND HAD TO PICK UP ALL THE PIECES, IT MADE OUR BEACH CLEAN UP.
PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH MORE RESPONSIBILITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S ZEALOUSLY ENCOURAGING THOSE FOLKS TO MOVE ON.
WE'RE, WE'RE A LARGE MUNICIPALLY OP OPERATED MARINA SYSTEM.
AND DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES, IT COMES PART AND PARCEL OF THE BUSINESS.
UH, WE, YOU KNOW, BRIAN, HIS TEAM ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY, UH, UH, BOAT CHECKS.
DOCK WALKS, SEEING WHO'S WHERE, UH, AND WHO'S, WHO'S WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AND WHO'S NOT.
UH, THEN WE, WE COMMUNICATE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, THEN WE WORK WITH OUR, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS, AND WE GO FROM THERE.
JUST, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, POLITICALLY CORRECT GYPSIES ARE CALLED ROMANS.
MY, MY FAMILY WERE GYPSIES AND WE TOOK A LOT OF PRIDE IN CALLING OURSELVES GYPSIES.
SO MY MOM WAS, UH, UKRAINE, POLISH, UH, AND THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES GYPSIES.
THEY DID NOT WANNA BE CALLED NOMAD.
SO I'M DOING IT FROM A FAMILY THING THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SAID IT.
SO NO OFFENSE, OFFENSE TAKEN, BUT YEAH, WE JUST PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
THAT WE SHAKI MY MOM'S LAST NAME WAS SHAKI.
WE DO HAVE RESPECT FOR HOW WE REFER TO PEOPLE.
AND, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE, UM, FOLKS THAT OVERSTAY? NOPE, THAT'S IT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING? UH, YES, TODD, WHEN IT COMES UNDER YOUR REPORT, UM, I KNOW WE HAD AN INCIDENT DURING THE CADET TRYOUTS.
UM, AND I'D LIKE, UH, THE MARINE SAFETY OFFICER TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND, UH, UM, THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE BELTRAN WOMAN AND, UM, FUTURE PLANS.
UM, ALSO THE OFF-DUTY LA FIREMAN CONNOR, THAT THE BODY WAS FOUND AND THE TRAINING EXERCISE.
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KUDOS TO THE, UM, NUMBER OF TRAINING EXERCISES THAT WERE DISCREETLY MOVED TO THE AREA THAT THEY SUSPECTED THE BODY WAS.UH, THE DA'S FILED CHARGES ON THE, UM, ALCOHOL RELATED INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON JULY FOUR WEEKEND.
AND, UH, AS A RESULT, I'VE BEEN GETTING FOLKS ASKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF DRUNK WALL DRIVING ON BOATS.
SO IF WE CAN INCLUDE THAT TOO IN THE MARINE SAFETY REPORT COURT.
MADAM CHAIR, CAN I ADD TO THAT TOO? WELL, THERE'LL BE EXTRA OFFICERS, OR DO WE BRING IN OUTSIDE DEPARTMENTS? UH, ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF, THEY'RE BOAT PATROL AND STUFF DURING THE QUOTE UNQUOTE GRAND PRIX.
UH, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE.
I MEAN, I, I'VE SEEN 'EM, I, I, I DON'T GO ON THE WATER
UH, FOR THE GRAND PRIX WEEKEND, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ALL HANDS ON DECK RIGHT.
IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST, UH, MARINE SAFETY, UH, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, MARINE SAFETY.
IT'S LONG BEACH, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, BOAT DETAIL.
FBI, UH, THE WATERFRONT IS PRETTY MUCH INUNDATED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE SCOPE OF THAT WEEKEND.
I, AND IT'S MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, DURING THAT WEEKEND THAT EVERY COMMISSIONER THAT CAN, UM, GO TO THE WATERFRONT, YOU, UH, WITNESS MOSTLY BRIAN'S STAFF.
UM, AND THE, THE MESSAGE THAT THEY'RE SENDING TO VISITORS IS SO POSITIVE THAT I SEE A LOT OF BRIGHT SHINING FACES.
AND YEAH, THEY'RE CONTROLLING THINGS WITH WRISTBANDS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING SO GOOD OUT ON THE DOCKS AND THEY'RE HELPING PEOPLE AND THEY'RE, IT, IT'S REALLY A WELCOMING, NICE ATMOSPHERE.
AND, AND I SEE FOLKS, UM, FROM OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION, UM, THAT ARE CLEANING THE WATER, UM, THAT OUR TEAM ALL, UM, IS LOOKING GOOD OUT THERE IN UNIFORM, ACTIVELY WORKING, ACTIVELY CLEANING UP THE WATER.
SO WE DON'T HAVE PHOTOS SHOWING UP OF ANY OF THE STUFF IN THE SALAD BOWL.
UM,
UM, UH, THE, THE PAINTING WHEN YOU GO WITHIN THE CORRAL AREAS IN THE BACK AND HOW NICE THAT LOOKS.
UM, WITH ADDING VIP AREAS NOW WITH THE GAUCHO GRILL, UH, IT IS, OUR MARINA REALLY SHINES AND IT REALLY MAKES US MONICA WEST.
AND, UM, THAT'S KUDOS TO, TO YOUR ORGANIZATION PLANNING MONTHS IN ADVANCE TO MAKE THINGS LOOK GOOD.
SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE GRAND PRIX PREPARATIONS IN YOUR REPORT.
UH, ANOTHER, UM, POSITIVE KUDO WAS AS A CITIZEN OF THE WESTERN FLYER COMING IN AND HOW EXTRAORDINARILY WELCOME THEY FELT, UM, ESPECIALLY, UM, BY, UH, BRIAN, WHO PERSONALLY GREETED THEM, UH, MADE SURE THEY KNEW HOW TO GET ON AND OFF THE DOCK, UH, MADE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT, IT, IT, WHAT I WANTED THAT STOCK TO BE MORE THAN ANY OTHER WAS HAVE THEM VIEW LONG BEACH AS THE MOST HOSPITABLE PORT THAT THEY VISITED.
AND I AM COMPLETELY SURE WE SUCCEEDED IN THAT GOAL.
AND THAT WAS IN NO SMALL PART TO THE SUPPORT OF YOUR ORGANIZATION.
UH, AND LASTLY, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME THINGS GOING ON WITH THE OLYMPIC VENUES AS THEY RELATE TO WATER, AND THERE'S SOME DECISIONS THAT'LL BE CLOSE TO BEING MADE RIGHT ABOUT OUR MEETING REGARDING SAILING.
UM, THERE'LL BE SOME PROPOSALS COMING IN FOR US TO HAVE DIVING.
UH, SO ANY INPUTS YOU HAVE ON THAT TO JUST, EVEN IF IT'S A MORE GENERIC, EVEN IF WE FOUND OUT WHO LA'S TOUTING, THAT THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED IT, THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN IT, THEY HAVEN'T, UM, BUT IT'S, UH, THEY'RE MAKING A STRONG STANCE FOR THE SAILING BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE 10,000 PERSON STANDS THAT CAN ALREADY GO UP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE STATING.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A SITE VENUE, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO SEE.
I I, I, I CALLED THE CHAIRMAN AS SOON AS I HEARD IT AND SHE, SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING BEFORE I KNOW ANYTHING, YOU KNOW.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING, AND, AND MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT, THAT IS ONLINE? INSTAGRAM, YOU KNOW, LONG BEACH POSTS WHERE THEY POST THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET NEGATIVE THINGS THAT ARE SAID ABOUT OUR BEACHES, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM DOG TRASH TO TRASH NOT BEING PICKED UP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
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NOW, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT RESPONDS TO THOSE THINGS AND SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, GOT THIS, WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED.THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SLAM US JUST TO SLAM US.
UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WATCHING THAT? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT SITS THERE AND, AND LOOKS THROUGH THOSE? OR IS IT, WE'RE CONSTANTLY WATCHING AND MONITORING SOCIAL MEDIA AND SEEING WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY, UM, TO RESPOND TO NEGATIVE STUFF ONLINE WOULD BE KIND OF NOT EVEN RESPONDING.
AND I MEAN, UH, FORMER UPS OR WE HAD, GEEZ, I THINK 20 PEOPLE.
AND THEY SAYS, HOW CAN WE HELP? HOW CAN WE DO THIS? LET, LET'S LOOK AT THIS.
HEY, WE'RE GONNA, AND IT WAS ALWAYS TURNED THAT NEGATIVE INTO A POSITIVE.
OH, YOU RACKED IT UPON IT IMMEDIATELY.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN AREA OF THE BEACH THAT THE TRASH CANS ARE OVERFLOWING.
IS THERE SOMEBODY LOOKING AT IT? YEAH.
I, I WISH, I WISH WE HAD THE RESOURCES.
WELL, AND SOMETIME RESPONDING GIVES, GIVES THEIR COMMENT TRACTION.
AND SOMETIME IT'S A ONE DAY NEWS ITEM, AS YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED.
AND, AND IF PEOPLE LIKE, AND POST AND RE THEN IT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN GIVES IT CREEPS.
WE'VE, WE RECOGNIZE, WE, WE SEE IT, WE IDENTIFY IT.
AND THEN IF THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, WE MAKE 'EM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BRIAN'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS OPERATION STAFF, IF WE SEE SOMETHING OR HEAR SOMETHING, THEY'RE ON IT QUICKLY AND IMMEDIATELY GOING TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ACTIONABLE.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LET PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OPINION, UM, AND GO FROM THERE.
BUT YEAH, LIKE TODD POINT, LIKE THE STAFF IS REALLY GOOD.
EVERYONE'S CONNECTED INTO SOMETHING LIKE SOMEBODY'S IN FACEBOOK OR SOMEBODY'S ON INSTAGRAM AND THEY, THEY KNOW TO BRING IT FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, THE PUMP OUTS WERE A, A VERY HOT TOPIC FOR A WHILE AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING SAID AND SEE IF THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, OUR TEMPORARY SETUP AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT, MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL FOR EVERYBODY.
I WOULD STILL LOVE TO HEAR TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, WE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT IT FROM OUR RESTAURATEURS THAT ARE OUT ON THE BEACH THAT HAVE IT.
WE, I, I LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING.
I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THEM COME IN, MAYBE NOT THIS MEETING, OF COURSE, BUT THE NEXT MEETING AND HAVE THEM COME IN AND PRESENT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS WHAT WE LOVE.
JUST TO, JUST TO MAKE US AWARE.
I MEAN, IT WENT THROUGH US TO APPROVE EVERYTHING.
IT'D BE NICE TO HEAR HOW ARE THEY DOING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.
ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UM, ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MANAGER'S ORAL UPDATE FROM THE PUBLIC? MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, UH, COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS.
UH, BRUCE, YOU PROBABLY KNOW ON THE SURF COMMITTEE, I THINK YOU WENT TO THE LAST MEETING.
I MEAN, IT WAS, UH, WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TOGETHER.
UM, AND, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, THE DIFFERENT NAME PLATES.
UH, I'M LOOKING AT THE STATE RIGHT NOW.
THE BRASS PLATES THAT WE THOUGHT ARE GONNA BE 10, 15, $20,000, I MEAN IT'S LIKE 1400 BUCKS, YOU KNOW, TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THEN I, I LOOKED AT IT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A STATEWIDE, THIS IS, THIS IS DESIGNATING US AS ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SURFING STARTED, WHICH IT WAS, IT WAS THE FIRST NATIONAL, UH, INTERNATIONAL SURF CONTEST WAS IN LONG BEACH.
SO WHY NOT GET A DESIGNATION FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA? 'CAUSE THEY DO THAT BEAUTIFUL.
JUST, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DATES.
SO WORKING WITH JOSH AL'S OFFICE, UH, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, SEE IF THEY WILL TAKE THAT UNDER THEIR HANDS AND WE'LL BRING THAT UP AT OUR MEETING.
BUT, UH, WE WENT OVER TO THE BREAKERS AND LOOKED AT THE BREAKERS, UM, AND WALKED THROUGH THE BREAKERS.
WHAT, WHAT A WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT PLACE IS.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AND THE WIFE TO GO AND, AND SPEND SOME TIME THERE.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A PLAQUE AND PUTTING A PLAQUE THERE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO UPSTAIRS AND LOOK, IT SHOWS ALL THE SURFING VENUE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THERE.
I MEAN, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO MEET WITH THE, THE BREAKER STAFF AND THE FAIRMONT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IF THEY'D BE INTERESTED.
BUT OUTSIDE THEY DO HAVE TWO BRASS PLAQUES, UH, FOR THE VICTORY GARDEN.
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE VICTORY GARDEN.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE VENUES.
THE NEXT VENUE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IS RIGHT HERE, UM, AT THE, UH, UH, AQUARIUM.
UH, BECAUSE DURING THE TRANSFORMATION THAT THE, THE CITY WILL BE DOING FOR THE WHOLE OCEAN FRONT AQUARIUM'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
UH, SO THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND, AND, UH, JUST A RECOMMENDATION
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FOR BRASS PLAQUES.JUST MAKE SURE IF THAT, THAT'S THE, THE CHOICE IS THAT THEY DO GO SOMEWHERE NEAR THE BREAKERS THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, WE, WE LOOKED AT THE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE, WE LOOKED AT LINCOLN PARK.
IT'S NOT ONE PLACE WE WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING A BRAS PLA YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE GONE THE FIRST DAY.
UH, AND IF WE LOOKED IT INTO THE SECURE AREA, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BRASS.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE A ALUMINUM TOO.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES AND EVEN EVEN SAND EDGE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, UH, UH, SO YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE WHEN IT GETS CLOSER TO IT.
I MEAN, IT WAS A GREAT WALKABOUT AND, UH, CHECKING OUT THINGS.
SO IT WAS, UH, YEAH, NICELY DONE.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE REPORT.
AND ALSO IS THERE FINANCE? BEFORE THAT? WE'LL HAVE FINANCE.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIAL WE REALLY WANNA FOCUS THERE ON FINANCE.
OH, YOU'RE NOT ON FINANCE ANYMORE.
OH, YOU WERE SUCH A, THE WIZ OUT, THE, YOU THE WIZ THERE ANYMORE.
OH, MY FINANCE MEETING THEN GO'S DOING.
THERE ANY OTHER AD HOC OR ANYTHING ELSE COULD ANTICIPATE WE NEED, UH, JUST FYI, UH, WE MAY BE RECEIVING, UH, A TRIBUTE BENCH PACKAGE OH.
SO, UH, WE MIGHT HAVE A LAST MINUTE ADDON IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
SO JUST FY ON THAT, WILL THEY, WILL THEY WORK OUT ON THEIR TRIBUTE BENCH IF THEY DO HAVE IT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ETCHED AND NOT A BRASS BLACK OR, I LIKE WHAT THEY STATED THAT THEY WILL REDO IF A BRASS BLACK GETS TAKEN OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE THAT THEY'LL REDO IT.
AND THE BENCH, I THINK SOMETHING TO BRING UP TOO, THE BENCH IS THEIRS AND THEY STATED THAT THEY WOULD MOVE THE BENCH TO WHEREVER THEY WANTED TO MOVE THE BENCH.
THAT'S, I MIGHT BUY ONE JUST TO PUT IT IN MY FRONT YARD FOR THE FUN OF IT.
SO, UM, IT, IT, THIS SHOULD BE AN A EASY ONE.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S A REPLACEMENT.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING INTO A NEW LOCATION.
AND, AND I THINK WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR, UM, PART OF THEIR MAINTENANCE PLAN ON THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAT IT BECOMES A BURDEN ON THE STAFF.
OUR STAFF, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH WHEN SHE SAID THAT.
I MEAN, THE EYES ALL WENT LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU REPLACED THE, THE BENCH? OH, WE DO THAT.
AND WHEN IT'S, THEY HAVE THE 10 YEAR TERMS OFF LIKE THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE THE BENCH WHEREVER THEY WANT US TO MOVE THE BENCH ON THE PHY REALLY KIND OF COOL THOUGH.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, FOR SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT IT OR DOESN'T PAY IT ANYMORE, AND WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? IT JUST GETS TRASH OVER, YOU KNOW, WE WILL TAKE THE, THE PLAQUE OFF AND NOW IT COULD BE MOVED.
IT'S, IT'S, WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN IN THAT SITUATION.
BUT IT WAS JUST CLARIFICATION THAT I NEVER HEARD.
AND WE'VE BEEN ON IT FOR A WHILE.
MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS IF WE DO GET TO THAT SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO BENCH ANYMORE, IT'LL JUST BE, IT'LL BE A, A REPLACEMENT AND THE, THE BENCH IN PLACE THAT'S THERE, WE CAN POTENTIALLY REPURPOSE IT OR, UH, THERE WOULD BE A FEE FOR DISPOSAL.
OR THE WAY SOME OF 'EM ARE REALLY SECURED IN THERE YEAH.
WOULD MAKE IT BEST TO, TO COVER IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
SO ASHLEY, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PARTS PARK, PARTNERS OF PARKS DOING A GREAT JOB.
COMING INTO TO REVAMP THAT PROGRAM FROM A PARTNERS PARK STANDPOINT MM-HMM
SO THAT THE CONTRACT THAT PEOPLE GO INTO, UH, FOR THE BENCH IS VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT FOUR COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS THEN? YES.
WITH THE POTENTIAL OF THE FOURTH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM FOUR? ANYTHING FROM THE GENERAL, JUST CLARIFICATION ON THE, ON THE BENCH.
SO WHEN BENCHES ARE GRAFFITI, IT'S, IS IT, OUR STAFF GET OUT THERE? YEAH.
THEY GET OUT THERE AND CLEAN 'EM RIGHT AWAY.
AND, AND THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DUTY.
THAT'S, THAT'S EVERY DAY WE'RE OUT THERE JUST LOOKING FOR GRAFFITI.
WE HAVE A PAINTER THAT THAT'S THEIR JOB EVERY DAY.
AND THE CITY HAS THAT COOL THING THAT THEY'LL DO THE MATCH THE COLORS INSTANTLY.
UH, UH, ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS PROPOSED OR ANYTHING WITHIN THIS TABLE? GENERAL PUBLIC? ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION AND MAYBE I SAW IT WRONG.
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DO WE HAVE A, AN A BM? THERE'S A GRASS UP OF BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE SIDEWALK.SIDEWALK MAINTAIN OR DO SOMETHING ELSE?
UM, UNFOR, NOT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A GOOD THING.
UH, AB 15, I ALWAYS GET THE NUMBERS MIXED UP.
UH, THAT REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF.
UH, SO ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT WE HAVE AREAS OF GRASS THAT'S BEING IRRIGATED AND MAINTAINED, THAT IS NOT, THAT DOES NOT HAVE A DIRECT RECREATIONAL PURPOSE, NEEDS TO BE, UH, TAKEN OUT, REMOVED.
YOU CAN MAKE IT INTO, INTO PERMEABLE CONCRETE.
YOU CAN MAKE IT INTO A STORM WATER DIVERSION.
UH, YOU CAN MAKE IT INTO A GARDEN SPACE.
SO WHAT OUR, UH, BEACH MAINTENANCE, UH, LANDSCAPE GROUP IS DOING IS THEY'RE GOING OUT INTO THOSE SPACES AND TURNING THEM INTO, UH, GARDEN SPACES.
UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE LIVERBOARDS AND BOATERS THAT DO HAVE PETS AND DOGS.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE LEAVING A, A FUNCTIONING RECREATIONAL GRASS SPACE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DOG PARK AT REC PARK, YOU HAVE ROSIE'S BEACH, UM, AND THAT THERE'S A, THAT BIG GRASS WHEN YOU COME BY A SCHOONER LATER AND YOU COME DOWN THAT BIG GRASSY KNOLL, HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I SEE MANY DOGS AND PEOPLE WHO WALK THEIR DOGS GO THERE.
AND YOU HAVE THE DOG PICK UP LITTER BOX AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER BOX THAT YOU DROP THE, THE BAG INTO IT.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD DESIGNATE AS A FUNCTIONAL RECREATIONAL SPACE.
DUE TO THE, THE USE OF IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND OTHER RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEY THROW A BALL AROUND BETWEEN EACH OTHER.
THEY COME OUT AND THEY DO PICNICS THERE.
UH, BUT THE, THE, THE MEDIAN GRASS SPACES, WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE RECREATIONAL DESIGNATION FOR THEM OTHER THAN EVERY SO MANY, UH, FEET WILL LEAVE A, A FUNCTIONAL TURF SPACE FOR PET USE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF GRASS.
BUT LONG BEACH C CLUB, THAT WHOLE STRIP THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN, THAT'S WHERE I WHAT MY DOG.
SO IT'S JUST
SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS ON ONE SIDE THEN COME UP TO THE OTHER SIDE.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A STATE BILL.
IT'S A REGULATION BY THE STATE.
I SAID, OH, BUT YOU'VE ALSO HAD A PRESENTATION ON IT.
UH, UH, DANNY FROM, UH, LONG BEACH UTILITIES CAME OUT AND, UH, PRESENTED WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE LONG GARDEN PROGRAM.
UH, WE'RE USING THE PLANT PALLET FROM THE CIP.
UH, SO, UH, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO OUT, YOU LOOK RIGHT BY BASIN THREE.
WE HAVE A LONG STRETCH THAT WE'VE JUST DONE.
UH, IT'S GOTTA LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
IF YOU GO TO OUR ALAMEDA BAY, UH, HARBOR MASTER, OUR MARINA OFFICE, OUR TURNABOUT RIGHT THERE, THAT WAS OUR FIRST LOCATION.
AND THERE'S TWO OVER HERE, THE ROUNDABOUT AT SHORELINE VILLAGE.
AND THEN RIGHT AS YOU ENTER THE MOLE ROAD, UM, BY THAT FIRST RESTROOM WITH P DOCK, UM, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE NOW TOO.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FOLLOWING STATE REGULATION, BUT ALSO WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY THE ENVIRONMENT.
SAVING WATER, BEING WATER WISE, STUFF LIKE THAT.
I'M SORRY, DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT? ONE MORE COMMENT.
THAT AREA IS, HAVING LIVED THERE FOR SO LONG, THAT THE AREA, AT LEAST IN BASIN BASIN THREE AND BASIN TWO, UH, THAT GRASS HAD BEEN UTILIZED ON JULY 3RD.
I'M ASSUMING WE GO BACK TO ACTUALLY HAVING FIREWORKS AND THE, THE FAMILIES COME IN THERE.
AND I WAS ALSO THINKING THAT AREA AS YOU REDO IT, WOULD BE, WE HAVE SOME BENCHES IN THE AREA AND THERE'S PROBABLY ROOM FOR MORE THERE.
IF YOU PLANT THAT INTO YOUR, WE GOT, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA JUST COME AND WANT TO SIT AND FEEL FREE TO WATCH THE FIREWORKS.
BUT THE AREA, UM, THAT YOU GET ONTO SECOND STREET, YOU GO FROM APPIAN WAY AND YOU GO ONTO SECOND STREET, YOU KNOW, YOU SWIM UP AND GO ON SECOND STREET, IVY BOWL.
IS THAT ALL? IT'S NOT ALL IT'S GRASS TOO, ISN'T IT? THAT'S WHAT WE CALL, THAT'S THE IVY BOWL.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? OKAY.
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THAT IS A STORM WATER FLOOD ZONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S NOT DESIGNATED PARK SPACE.
SO IT'S, IT'S WELL USED, BUT EXCUSE ME.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AREA IS UH, UNDER, UH, WE COUNT IT IN SOME OF OUR PERCENTAGE OF PARK SPACE, BUT WE DON'T COUNT IT AS A PARK.
AS WE COUNTED, WE COUNTED THOSE THAT WHEN WE COUNT THE SQUARE FEET OF SC OF PARK LANDS, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE LIST.
BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST LOOKING FOR EVERY CHANCE WE CAN HAVE GREEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, SPACE.
ANYTHING FURTHER? ANY OTHER WE TO ADJOURN? WE ADJOURN AT NINE 17.