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THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE MEETING THIS MORNING.
UH, WE'LL, UH, GET THROUGH PRETTY QUICK.
UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR CHAIR'S REPORT TODAY.
UH, OTHER THAN, UH, I PERSONALLY HAVE, UH, INTERACTED WITH QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.
THAT'S NOT A SCIENTIFIC, UH, NUMBER, UH, JUST TO SAY THAT IT'S CERTAINLY MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR AND LESS THAN A HUNDRED.
UM, INTERESTINGLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF THREE, FOUR WEEKS, UH, THAT WE'RE VERY COMPLIMENTARY ABOUT, UH, UH, THE EFFORTS THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION HAS TAKEN, UH, THE, UH, STEAM CLEANING, UH, HAS COME UP, UH, THE DAILY CLEANING THROUGH PRESERVATION CORE, UM, EVEN EFFORTS WITH LANDSCAPING AND LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LANDSCAPING.
UH, BUT THE UNDERLYING THEME WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING, UH, THE LORD'S WORK AND TRYING TO ADJUDICATE THESE FUNDS THE BEST WAY YOU CAN, UH, TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS THAT, UH, WE HAD BEEN TASKED TO DO.
UH, AND I HARKEN BACK WHEN I STARTED DOING THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, C CHRIST, UH, WHO I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH A COUPLE TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS ALSO REMINDED ME TO FOCUS ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS.
AND, UH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT OF, UH, UM, CHATTER, UH, SUPPORTING AND, UH, CRITIQUING, UH, WHAT YOU ALL DO.
BUT YOU GOTTA KEEP THE TASK IN HAND.
AND, AND I, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, THANKS CITY STAFF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE PROJECTS, UH, REALLY DO, UH, UH, ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, I'M REMINDED OF THAT WHEN PEOPLE REMIND ME OF THAT.
SO THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL MOVE TO REGULAR AGENDA, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE BELMONT SHO PARKING BUSINESS.
APPROVE THE MARY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, APRIL 17TH, 2025.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? SO MOVED.
SECOND, UH, ANY OPEN COMMENT ON THAT ITEM? SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE LONGING PRODUCT WORKS, FINANCIAL REPORT, DISCUSSING REVENUES DURING THE PERIOD ENDING APRIL 30TH, 2025.
AND WE HAVE SOME PAPERWORK TO SUPPORT, UH, SIR QUEEN.
AND NOW IT'S, UH, WHICH PAGES, SIR? UH, PAGE SEVEN.
UH, THE FIRST ONE HAS TITLED BELMONT MATURE PARKING METER FUND SUMMARY.
THIS IS TO DISCUSS REVENUES FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2025.
IN APRIL, 2025, REVENUE WAS UP 6% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
WHILE YEAR TO DATE, REVENUE IS UP 12% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
LEADING US RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY TO THE CURRENT FIRM BALANCE OF FOUR THOU FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED THIRTY DOLLARS AND 81 CENTS.
UM, UP FROM LAST YEAR AND THE PREVIOUS YEARS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE STILL ON TRACK TO REACH OUR 1.3 MILLION IN REVENUE FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, ANY ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT, OR WE'RE GONNA GET TO IT UNDER THE AGENDA.
THE SECOND PAGE IS THE BELMONT PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA COMMISSION, FY 2025 BUDGET.
THIS IS THE SAME BUDGET WE SPOKE ABOUT IN MARCH.
IT'S JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF CHANGES.
ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL THE SAME.
WE'RE STILL EXPECTED TO HAVE AN ESTIMATED REVENUE OF 1.3 MILLION WITH, UH, 1.4 IN EXPENDITURES.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS MATERIAL,
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PLEASE? SO THIS ONE IS REFLECTING THE, UH, THIS IS THE FINAL CONTRACT PRICE FOR THE CLEANING SERVICES, THE 448,000? NO, THAT IS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR WITH AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WILL COST FOR JULY AND AUGUST.WHERE ARE WE LOOKING? DO, OH, I'M ON PAGE EIGHT.
HE'S LOOKING AT THE LINE ITEM CLEANING SERVICES.
WE ARE ESTIMATED TO HAVE 448,777 FOR, FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2025.
SO THAT'S TILL SEPTEMBER 30TH.
AND WE'VE ADDED THE ESTIMATE FOR JULY AND AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER AS A CONTINGENCY TO PUT IT IN THERE, JUST SO WE CAN SEE WHAT OUR OVERALL EXPENSE WILL BE FOR THAT YEAR.
AND THAT IS WITH THE COMPLETED CONTRACTS FOR THE, THE ESTIMATED FOR THE RP? UH, YEAH, THE RP IS STILL IN PROCESS, BUT YES, IT'S GOING IN THERE.
IT WILL BE IN THERE, AND WHEN WE HAVE IT UPDATED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO UPDATE AS WELL.
IS THIS A HIGH PROJECTION OR IS IT JUST THE BEST GUESS? THAT IS OUR, THAT'S A VERY ACCURATE GUESS BECAUSE WE'VE ONLY HAD TO DO THREE, THREE MONTHS.
AND WE'RE USING THE CURRENT CONSERVATION CORPS CONTRACT AS A EXAMPLE.
SO FOR SIX MONTHS WORTH OF WORK FOR CONSERVATION CORPS IS AROUND $260,000.
SO IT'S AROUND $50,000 A MONTH.
SO WE'RE INCLUDING THAT $50,000 IN JULY, AUGUST, AND SEPTEMBER ON TOP OF WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVE ON TOP, ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING TO SPEND WITH CONSERVATION COURT.
SO IT WILL BE, UM, IT'S A CLOSE NUMBER.
I HAVE, I'M CONFIDENT IT'S CLOSE.
I DON'T SEE IT JUMPING ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR ANYTHING WHILE OKAY.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING, WAS YEAH.
IS THIS BASED ON PREVIOUS YEAH.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE WE NEED TO, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE WE, UM, NEEDED TO ESTIMATE ON.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS IT'S PRETTY SOLID.
IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SOLID STANDARD.
WE ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING ESTIMATED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
UM, SECURITY'S GONNA BE ABOUT THAT MUCH, YOU KNOW, PRESSURE WASHING 74 TRASH CAN, REPLACEMENT HOLIDAYED CORD.
IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL PRETTY SET IN STONE.
THERE WILL WON'T BE MANY CHANGES, IF ANY.
AND THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE TRIM AND THE SECURITY EXPENDITURE THAT WE'VE YES, WE'VE DONE.
AND THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE STEP UP THAT CONSERVATION CORPS, UH, DROPPED IN MM-HMM
BUT IT IS SHOCKINGLY CLOSE TO THE REALITY OF THE NEW CONTRACT VALUE, UH, GOING FORWARD.
UH, ROUGHLY 50 PLUS OR MINUS THOUSAND FOR THAT VENDOR, AND THAT, THAT REPRESENTS THAT BASIS CURRENT.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY GO BACK TO THE PAR LEVELS THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY WITH SECURITY, IF NOT THAT UP, UH, ALLOW.
AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO, MORE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, UH, JUST THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO, QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO BECOME MORE, MORE EXPENSIVE.
WE HAVE TO MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS.
UH, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER CASTRO? SO IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT IN THE NEXT BUDGET, IT COULD BE EVEN HIGHER THEN, RIGHT? IT COULD BE CLOSE TO SIX.
I CANNOT FORESEE WHAT VENDOR INCREASES ARE GOING TO BE, BUT IF IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF OUR WORLD AND THE REST OF OUR LIVES, UH, WE SEE INCREASES IN ALL OF THOSE COSTS.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE LESS THAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LESS.
UM, I MEAN, ONE OF THE, THE DRIVING, THE, THE TWO DRIVING FACTORS FOR THESE VENDORS IS LABOR.
AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU WITH EVERY THIRD CONFIDENCE THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE GOING OUT.
SO, UM, SO THAT LEAVES THE STATE OF DEFICIT.
IT WOULD, AND, AND HENCE IF YOU FORECAST FURTHER INTO THE AGENDA, UH, THAT IS THE IMPETUS FOR, UH, THE METER INCREASE REQUEST.
THE REVENUE HAS TO MEET THE EXPECTATION.
OTHERWISE, WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE FOLLOWING LINE PROJECT, UH, MR. LINK.
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OKAY.WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
UM, IS THERE ANY YOU NEED TO, YOU, IT'S FOR THE, FOR THOSE FOLKS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A TV RIGHT NEXT TO ST.
VINCENT? SECOND IN THE DOORWAY? THERE'S A WHOLE SWAT OF GRAFFITI.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
APPARENTLY THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE BUILDING DON'T REPORT IT OR ANYONE ELSE.
SO, AND THERE'S BEEN GRAFFITI ON WINDOWS OF EMPTY STORES THAT WAS THERE FOR A COUPLE DAYS.
SO IS THERE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT? AND THEN, I GUESS GO BACK TO THE TREE ISSUE AS TO WHETHER WE'RE THEY'RE BEING CARED FOR PROPERLY.
AND, UH, IN FRONT OF F AND M EGG, SOMEBODY IS, AGAIN, PUT IN LIKE A LITTLE TINY TREE, BUT THE, THE, UH, VACANT SPOTS ARE STILL THERE.
THAT MACHOS
WE WERE IN SOME BEACH YESTERDAY THAT HAVE GLORIOUS TREES THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF, AND OURS ARE JUST LOOKING DRY AND HIGH.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THE RESPONSIBILITY THERE, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF SOMEBODY SORT OF WALKING THE STREET AND RECORDING THINGS RIGHT HERE.
UM, UH, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE? OKAY.
UH, ONTO ITEM THREE ON OUR CONSENT CALENDAR RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FO LONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR APRIL 25, WHICH IS FOUND ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE.
UM, THE QUESTION WILL BE TRENDING UP, RYAN.
UH, SO WE'RE TRENDING UPWARDS.
UH, IN TERMS OF BOARDINGS, WE'VE GOT 5,439 BOARDINGS.
THE MOST WE'VE HAD IN CALENDAR YEAR 2025 SO FAR.
LAST YEAR WE HAD 4,135 BOARDINGS, SO, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN IN RIDERSHIP, WE HAVE 184 RIDER VERSUS 140 RIDER AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
UM, AGAIN, HIGHEST THIS CALENDAR YEAR SO FAR.
TRAVIS IS, UM, I'M CERTAIN I KNOW.
WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO, TO STICK THIS, UH, ANALYTIC IN HERE AS, UH, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THAT FREES UP A DAILY BASIS.
THAT WOULD BE A NICE ONE TO KNOW.
UM, COMMISSION ON THE BUS PASS PROGRAM, WHICH WE LOVE.
I MEAN, SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE JUST REALLY GOING CRAZY.
WELL, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE FOURTH BUSINESS IS NOT HOSPITALITY.
AND, UH, SUN GLASS CUT, UH, COMES TO BSBN MEETINGS EVERY MONTH AND TALKS ABOUT HOW APPRECIATIVE THEY ARE, COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND PEOPLE, UH, SUPPORTING THAT STORE.
UM, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO, TO SEE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE AVAILING THEMSELVES IN THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CRITICISM THAT, UH, THE BEST BES PROGRAM ONLY SERVICES HOSPITALITY.
UM, THAT'S CLEARLY, UH, NOT THE TRUTH.
SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS? OKAY.
UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE? ON ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, I HAVE FOUR ON THE, UH, AGENDA RECOMMENDATION.
RECEIVE THE STATUS UPDATES ON CONSERVATION FOR DOGS OR AREA, INCLUDING RESPONSES TO REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE AFTER APRIL, 2025.
UH, WHO DO WE HAVE FROM CONSERVATION COURT THIS MORNING?
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HI GUYS.WE MISS, WE HAVE A MOTION FARTHER HISTORY MOTION TO, I'M SORRY.
UM, MIKE BRIDGE IS A PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, YEAH, IT'S, DELMONT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR HISTORY FOR SO LONG.
I'VE BEEN AT THE COURT FOR A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS NOW.
SO I'VE WORKED IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR IN ONE FORM OR, UM, OR FASHION, UH, AS A CORPS MEMBER, AS A SUPERVISOR, AS A COORDINATOR, AND NOW AS A MANAGER.
SO I'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE WORK AND THE SUPPORT THAT BELMONT SHORE HAS GIVEN CCLD.
SO WE DEFINITELY, WE ARE GONNA MISS BEING HERE, BUT WE'LL BE HERE IN SOME FORM OF BASHING, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HELPING WITH ZERO WASTE PROJECTS OR EVENTS THAT DELMONT SHORE MAY HAVE.
SO OUR DOORS ARE STILL OPEN TO BEAUMONT SHORE.
SO, UM, BUT TO GIVE A REPORT, UM, I HAVE ANGELICA GALINDO, OUR PROJECT COORDINATOR.
UM, SO THESE ARE MOSTLY SAME AS USUAL, UM, WORKING ON, UM, SWEEPING THE, UH, SIDEWALKS, UM, EMPTYING THE BIG BELLIES.
UM, WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO REMOVE, UH, GRAFFITI AS WE SEE.
UM, IT POP UP, UM, ON THE BIG BELLIES AND I, UM, THEY'VE BEEN SEEN LIKE ON NEWSPAPERS SOON, I BELIEVE.
UM, THERE ARE SOME ON THE BUILDINGS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE DO.
UM, BUT WE DO NOTATE IT OR WE DO KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S A, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE BIG BILLIES TO BE REPLACED, I THINK.
SO WE REPORTED, UH, THAT 12 OR 13 WERE, WERE DUE IN AT LAST MEETING.
UH, TWO OF THOSE TWO, TWO SINGLE BIG BELLIES WILL BE COMING IN OKAY.
WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
WE MAINTAIN IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, SO IT GETS REPLACED.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE ALSO PICKING UP THE WEEDS IN THE PARKING LOTS.
UM, AND, UH, APPARENTLY, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS LIKE A RANDOM PERSON, BUT, UM, SOME BRANCHES WERE RIPPED OFF WITH TREES AND ON THE FLOOR, SO WE TOOK CARE OF THAT, UM, PUT IN THE BIN.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THAT.
AND THEN JUST SOME REMINDERS, UM, IS THAT WE OFFER, UH, REGULAR WEEKLY RECYCLING SERVICES FOR, UH, BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
UM, ALSO, OR AS MIKE SAID, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR, UM, ANY EVENTS, IF THERE'S ANY CITY EVENTS THAT COME UP, UM, THAT NEED ASSISTANCE.
I THINK THE ALSO WE DID WAS, UM, UH, HELPING PUT OUT EASTER EGGS FOR THE EASTER EGG HUNT.
UM, AND YEAH, WE DO THE EWAS COLLECTION, UM, HERE AT THETO LOCATION AND A TIRE COLLECTION AT THE EDCO FACILITY.
UH, EXPAND REAL QUICK FROM E-WASTE AND TIRES FOR HERE.
SO E-WASTE DOES, UH, ELECTRONIC, UH, WASTE.
UM, SO WE, UH, BASICALLY, UH, COLLECT YOUR, RECYCLE YOUR, UM, ELECTRONIC WASTE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, MOST THINGS WITH WIRES OR, UM, LIKE SOMETHING WITH THE CIRCUIT BOARD AND IT'S COMPUTERS, UM, OR WE ARE MOSTLY LOOKING FOR COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, UM, TVS, FLAT SCREEN CELL PHONES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO INSTEAD OF PUTTING THAT, UM, IN YOUR TRASH OR RECYCLING, WHICH IT DOES NOT GO THERE, UM, WE TAKE IT TO US AND WE TAKE IT TO A SECURED, UM, ELECTRONICS, UH, WASTE RECYCLER THE PUMPS EVERY SATURDAY.
WE ALSO DO CURBSIDE COLLECTIONS AS WELL.
SO IF YOU CAN'T GET TO ANY OF OUR EVENTS, UH, WE DID SEND OUT A FLYER, WE WILL COME TO YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR RESIDENCE, PICK IT UP FOR DEGREE OF CHARGE CHARGE.
THAT'S A, UM, SO ONE OTHER THING THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO MENTION, THE LAST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, UH, HEATHER, UH, THE BSBA MEETING IS WHAT DAY, WHAT THEY COUNTED MAY LAST TUESDAY, MAY 27TH.
UH, NORMALLY THE BSBA DOES THEIR BIMONTHLY MEETING AT 1130, UH, TO ONE O'CLOCK.
UH, THIS MONTH IS AT EIGHT 30.
AND THAT WAS FOR THE CREW FROM CONSERVATION CORPS TO COME,
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UH, SO THAT THEY CAN BE THANKED AND YOU GUYS CAN BE THANKED FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.UH, THE BSBA WANTS TO THANK YOU AND THEN INVITE ALL THOSE GUYS TO COME IN TOWN BREAKFAST WITH US.
UH, SO THAT WE FOREMAN, WE SAY THANK YOU.
WE MIGHT HAVE NICK STEPPED OUT.
WE MIGHT HAVE COUNCILWOMAN DUGGAN AT THAT MEETING TO ALSO THANK CONSERVATION FOR, UH, FOR THEIR SERVICE.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HERE IS CERTAINLY INVITED TO COME TO THAT AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S, THANK FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND THAT KIND OF DOVETAILS THE SERVICE OF THE CONTRACT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CREW THERE.
UH, ANY AHEAD, PLEASE? SO, JUST WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT FROM SCOTLAND, UM, WE, UH, WHAT, UH, SHOULD HAPPEN THERE? DOES SHE NEED TO DO ANYTHING THAT SHE HASN'T DONE? IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN HELP HER WITH AT THAT ADDRESS IN THE, ON THE PRIVATE BUILDING? UM, I KNOW SHE ASKED, UM, WHAT, HOW THEY SHOULD REPORT IT.
AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST MONTH, THAT THE BEST WAY THAT IT COMES TO US IS THROUGH THE GO LONG BEACH.
UH, I, I JUST KNOW THAT
IF IT'S ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, IT NORMALLY FALLS ONTO THE CITY.
BUT WE NORMALLY MAINTAIN THE ONES ON, LIKE THE LIGHT FOLKS, BIG BELLIES, OR EVEN LIKE THE NEWSPAPER RACKS.
WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THOSE OURSELVES.
BUT YEAH, PUBLIC PROPERTY NORMALLY, UH, PEOPLE RE REPORT THOSE VIA THE LONG BEACH APP.
AND THEN PRIVATE PROPERTY WOULD BE, UM, THE BUSINESS OWNER.
SO, SO, UM, YEAH, SO THE, THE, I GUESS THE, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT, UM, MAYBE A NOTE ON THE BUILDING.
I THINK MY QUESTION WAS CAN SOMEBODY OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER, I MEAN, FOR SOME REASON THAT'S BEEN THERE, I WOULD ASSUME SECOND WOULD'VE SEEN THE GRAFFITI.
THE PEOPLE WHO USED THE BUILDING WOULD'VE SEEN IT.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT REPORTING IT, IS THERE NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO BEEN, I MEAN BSBA, WHETHER THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, SOMEBODY'S THE OWNER THAT THERE'S GRAFFITI, I WOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ERS? YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.
UH, PLEASE, PLEASE, WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE LAST TUESDAY OF MONTH IN THE MORNING.
UH, BECAUSE FORMALLY, UH, TO EVERYBODY, UH, WE HAVE MOTION.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE? I JUST BRIEFLY WANT TO THANK BOTH OF THE REPRESENTATIVE, STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND RIGHT
UH, WANTED TO BRIEFLY THANK BOTH OF THE CONSERVATION CORPS REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY FOR YOUR WORK.
IT WAS HEARTENING TO HEAR MIKE SPEAK ABOUT THE BREADTH OF EXPERIENCE YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THIS AND THE ONGOING COMMITMENT TO THINGS.
I THINK IT'S OFTEN SOMETIMES FOR OUT IN A ROOM THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SERVING CLEANUP HERE.
IT'S ABOUT BUILDING SKILLS AND TALENT AND A WORKFORCE THAT'S FOR THE FUTURE BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE.
SO WE IN THE COMMUNITY APPLAUD THAT VERY MUCH.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE, RA? I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I TRULY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND MAINTAINED ON SECOND STREET, THANKS TO, TO YOUR WORK.
UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE SAD TO YOU GUYS GO, 'CAUSE I WALK BY THERE LIKE ALMOST EVERY DAY AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE MORNING TO ALL OF YOU, RIGHT? SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND THAT HOPEFULLY IT WILL CONTINUE TO WITH WHOEVER WE WIND UP WITH.
I REALIZE THAT IN THESE INFLATIONARY TIMES, IT'S JUST, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND, BUT WE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK.
I WANNA GO SAFE WALKING ON SECOND STREET, AND I WANT MY NIECE TO FEEL SAFE WALKING ON SECOND STREET.
UH, DOES THAT CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING THE REPORT? AYE.
UH, ITEM FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE FILE PRESENTATION REGARDING COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 2007 TO DASH TWO, BELMONT SHORE FISCAL YEAR COMPANY 26 ASSESSMENT RATE.
THIS IS THE MEL RU AT 14 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT.
UH, THIS IS A STATIC, UH, CURRENT STATIC, RIGHT?
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UM, AND THIS IS DICTATED BY, UH, THE CITY.IT COMES TO, UH, THIS, UH, COMMISSION, UH, BECAUSE THE MEUSE WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE ORDINANCE IN 1971, UH, TO SEE THE BUDGET WHEN PARKING METERS DIDN'T EXIST.
UH, THIS MONEY, UH, CURRENTLY IS COLLECTED AND SERVICES THE BOND DEBT, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, IN 15 OR SO YEARS WHEN THE BOND DEBT IS RETIRED.
UH, THERE WILL BE CONVERSATIONS ON USE OF FUNDS, UH, FOR THE GOING FORWARD.
UH, THE, THE RATE OF 14 CENTS IS DICTATED, UH, BY THE CITY, UH, ON THEIR ANALYTICS AND PROJECTIONS.
IT RUNS FROM ZERO TO 66 CENTS.
UH, AND OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IT'S REMAINED STATIC.
UH, IT HAS GONE DOWN, UH, TWICE SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING, UH, ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND IT'S GONE UP, I BELIEVE, ONCE SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS COMMISSION.
UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION AND A SECOND? SECOND, UH, RYAN, DO HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, UM, READ THE STAFF REPORT THAT I PRESENTED.
AND THEN WHAT PAGE IS THAT? THAT'S PAGE 14 ON THE, EXCUSE ME, PAGE 14 ON THE, ON THE, UH, PACKET.
SO ON THE SUBJECT OF THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 2007 DASH TWO FOR BELMONT CHORE, THE CFD WAS ESTABLISHED TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC PARKING IN THE BELMONT CHORE AREA, AND TO PAY FOR THE FINANCING OF SET IMPROVEMENTS WITH VOTER APPROVED SPECIAL TAX BONDS ISSUED IN 2009.
THAT'S INCLUDING THE ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING LOT AT A HUNDRED AND 189 PARK AVENUE, UH, ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENTS TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO PARKING AND OTHER ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION OF PROPERTY MAKING PARKING AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE BELMONT SHORE AREA.
THAT CFD ALSO FINANCES BOND RELATED EXPENSES, INCLUDING APPRAISAL, FEASIBILITY, STUDY COSTS, RESERVE FUNDS, CAPITALIZED INTEREST, FINANCIAL ADVISORS, STATEMENT PRINTING AND INCIDENTAL EXPENSES.
THAT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES FOR THE CITY AND THE BOND TRUSTEE OR FISCAL AGENT RELATED TO THE DISTRICT.
AND ANY BONDS ISSUED FOR THAT DISTRICT.
THE BONDS WILL MATURE IN OCTOBER 20TH, 2041 WITH INTEREST RATES RANGING FROM 2% TO 6% FOR BOND MATURITIES BETWEEN 2009 AND 2040.
THEY'RE PAYABLE SOLELY FROM PROCEEDS OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT TAX LEVIED ANNUALLY ON ONLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE CFD AND BELMONT SHORE PARKING METERS ARE A PART OF THAT AS WELL.
THE TOTAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SQUARE FOOTAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 491,893 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE ANNUAL SPECIAL TAX RATE MAY BE SET AT ANY AMOUNT FROM ZERO TO 66 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT, CURRENTLY BETWEEN ZERO TO 66 CENTS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVE THE TAX LEVY RATE SET AT 14 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT, AND IT GENERATES AN ESTIMATED $68,864 AND 91 CENTS IN ANNUAL TAX REVENUE.
FOR REFERENCE, THE MAXIMUM RATE ALLOWED TA TAX LEVY OF 66 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT WOULD BE $324,649.
SO AT 14, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 14%, LEAVING US AT 68,864.
IN THAT REVENUE, THE, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 PUBLIC WORKS IS RECOMMENDING THE SPECIAL TAX RATE TO BE 14 CENTS, SAME AS LAST YEAR.
WHILE TAX PAYMENT DELINQUENCIES DO EXIST AND CHANGE OVER TIME, THEY HAVE GENERALLY REMAINED LOW AND A 14 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT LEVEE SHOULD GENERATE $68,864 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.
THE RECOMMENDED LEVEE AMOUNT IS EXPECTED TO BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE AND PERMITTED COST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
THIS 14 CENTS LEVY WOULD ALSO REMAIN UN UNCHANGED FROM LAST YEAR.
AND AFTER THE NEXT FEW PAGES ARE A LITTLE PRESENTATION TO GIVE EVERYONE AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS.
SO WE'VE GOT ON PAGE 16, WE HAVE A COVER PAGE FOR MONT ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS.
PAGE 17 HAS ALL THE DIS DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THE COMMERCIAL COM COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED TO LEVY A PROPERTY ASSESSMENT.
IT WAS VOTER AND BUSINESS APPROVED.
PROPERTY ASSESSMENTS ARE USED TO PAY DEBT SERVICE.
ON THESE 2009 BONDS, THE BONDS WERE ISSUED FOR PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.
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CAN SEE WHERE THE BELMONT SHORE OVERLAPPING DISTRICTS ARE.UM, BETWEEN THE BS, THE B-S-P-V-I-A AND THE CFD, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 79 PROPERTIES LEVIED LEAVING US AT ANNUAL TAX ASSESSMENT AT $69,000.
OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS 14 CENTS, BUT IT COULD GO UP BETWEEN ANYWHERE FROM ZERO TO 66 CENTS GIVEN ON WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE FOR THAT YEAR.
IN TERMS OF PAGE, PAGE 20 HAS, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZED USES THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE CALCULATED BY BUSINESS CATEGORY.
THEY HAVE A BASE RATE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE RATE.
THE AUTHORIZED USE OF THESE FUNDS ARE COMMUNICATION TO BUSINESS OWNERS, MARKETING, PROMOTING COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ATTRACT CUSTOMERS.
ON PAGE 21, THE HISTORIC B-S-P-B-I-A COLLECTED ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS ALL OF THE COLLECTED ASSESSMENTS OVER THE YEARS FOR FY 2025.
WE ARE CURRENTLY ESTIMATING TO RECEIVE REVENUES OF $177 AND 200 AND $177,268.
HISTORICAL REVENUES ARE, WILL BE UPDATED AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE OVER TO PAGE 23 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CFD AND WHAT THESE BONDS ARE ISSUED FOR.
SO IN 2009, WE HAD BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED TO PURCHASE A PARKING LOT TO INCREASE AVAILABLE PARKING, IMPROVE ACCESS TO PARKING IN THE BEAUMONT SHORE AREA, AND MAKE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.
THE BONDS GENERATED 3 MILLION IN NET PROCEEDS FOR PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.
ON PAGE 24, THE SECURITY OF THE BONDS.
THIS IS A DEAL THAT WAS ISSUED BACK IN 2007.
THE 2009 BONDS ARE SECURED BY A PLEDGE OF BELMONT SHORT PARKING METER REVENUES.
SO EVERY OCTOBER 1ST PARKING METER REVENUES ARE TAKEN OUT TO PAY FOR THIS BOND, $200,000 EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE ALREADY PAID 200,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 FISCAL YEAR.
2026 PAYMENT OCCURS ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2025.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO PARKING METER REVENUES, THESE BONDS ARE PAID BY SPECIAL TAX REVENUE VIA THE MEUS.
IT'S A TAX ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT TO EXCEED 66 CENTS PER SQUARE FEET.
AND CURRENTLY WE ARE AT 14 CENTS SQUARE FEET.
UH, AUTHORIZED USES THAT WE'VE ISSUED SO FAR ARE THE ACQUISITION OF LAND AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING LOT AT 189 PARK AVENUE, INCLUDING ASPHALT PAVING, CONSTRUCTION, FENCING OF WALLS, SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENTS, LIGHTING AND METERS.
WE'VE ALSO URD ALLEYWAYS THAT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO PARKING LOTS ADJACENT TO AND BEHIND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE MONT ROAD PARKING METER REVENUE AREA, THE ACQUISITION CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC PARKING SPACES AND MAKE PARKING AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE BEAUMONT SHORE PARKING METER AREA.
IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE GRADING, RELOCATION OF UTILITIES, LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE, LIGHTING, SMART METERS, AND OPPORT.
ON PAGE 26, WE HAVE THE FUNDED PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE SINCE THE ISSUING OF THESE BONDS.
AND YOU CAN SEE YEAR BY YEAR WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR.
WE'VE ACQUIRED A NEW PARKING LOT.
THERE HAVE BEEN PARK AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS, LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TRASH ENCLOS IMPROVEMENTS TO PARKING LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX TAKEN THROUGH 20 20 15 THROUGH 2017.
WE'VE HAD INSTALLED SINGLE PARKING METERS AND SENSORS IN THE GROUND.
WE'VE REMOVED CONCRETE AND WET DIRT DUE TO WATER DAMAGE.
WE'VE IMPROVED ACCESS TO EXISTING PARKING, INCLUDING SHORE LIBRARY.
ALSO HAD IMPROVEMENTS TO ADJUST HANDICAP ACCESS AT BAYSHORE LIBRARY IN 2021.
WE'VE HAD PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, LED LIGHTS, PARKING, SIGNAGE, AND INSTALLED T TWO PARKING METER PAY STATIONS.
AND THEN AS OF LAST YEAR, WE'VE USED THIS FUND TO PURCHASE AND INSTALLED TRASH, BIG BELLY TRASH BINS IN THE ELIGIBLE AREAS.
OUR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE AS OF APRIL 8TH, IS 3,772.
THESE FUNDS WILL BE EXPENDED BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, ALL OF THE FUNDS WILL BE GONE.
UM, PAGE 27 HAS THE TAX RATES AND THE DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE CERTAIN TAX RATES FOR THE MELROSE
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THAT RANGE FROM ZERO TO 66 CENTS.YOU CAN SEE EACH FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT THE TAX RATE WAS FOR THAT YEAR.
UM, FISCAL YEAR 2022 WAS AT 14.
UM, WE HAVE HAD AN UNCHANGED AMOUNT SINCE FISCAL YEAR 2020.
UM, HOW, AND THAT'S USED TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE.
THE NEXT PAGE, WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT ARE FOR THE DEBT SERVICE.
THIS IS TO SHOW THAT WHAT WE PAY FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR.
SO IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THESE BONDS, WE HAVE TO PAY 200,000 IMMEDIATELY OUT OF THE PARKING METER FUND.
AND THEN WE USE THE
SO 200,000 FROM THE PARKING METER REVENUE AND THE 68,000 FROM THE SPECIAL TAX REVENUE GIVES US $268,865 FOR AVAILABLE FUNDS.
THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS AVAILABLE TO EXPEND PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THE FINANCIAL, UH, MANAGEMENT TEAM ARE ABLE TO EXPEND PAY FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE.
COLUMN D IS OUR DEBT SERVICE OF $255,300.
AND COLUMN E IS OUR DISTRICT EXPENSES.
UM, AS OF NOW WE ARE CURRENTLY KEEPING IT AT 14 CENTS, BUT, UH, OUR CENTRAL FINANCE TEAM HAVE THE WILL ASSESS THIS EVERY YEAR AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE BASED ON WHAT THE EXPENSES ARE FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE.
THE NEXT PAGE GOES INTO THOSE DISTRICT EXPENSES.
PAGE 29 OUT OF THE HANDOUT IT SAYS CFD EXPENSES.
SO WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE IN TERMS OF, IN ADDITION TO PAYING BACK THE BONDS ARE CONSULTANT FEES, TRUSTEE FEES, ARBITRARY ARBITRAGE CALCULATIONS, SUPPORT SERVICES, AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION SERVICES.
AND SO, UM, THIS YEAR WE CURRENTLY HAVE $16,132 PROJECTED FOR OUR DEBTS OR FOR OUR EXPENSES FOR THAT DEBT.
SO DISTRICT EXPENSES, NOT OUR DEBT SERVICE.
AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE KEEPING IT AT 14 CENTS.
SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY KIND OF CHANGES, BUT THERE WILL BE, UM, THIS WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL JUNE 10TH, TUESDAY, JUNE 10TH, AND THERE WILL BE FLYERS OUT TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS LETTING THEM KNOW OF OUR LEVY TAX RATE.
UM, HAVING SAID THAT, ARE THERE ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMISSIONERS? I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN.
WE CAN ALWAYS
IS HELPFUL AND NOT ANY KIND OF AN ECONOMIST IN BONDS OR WAY OUT, UH, PORTFOLIO.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TO, TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS SO I'M CLEAR ON YEAH.
SO, UM, THE 200,000, UM, THAT WE HAVE IS FROM PAGE 24.
UM, THAT IS PLEDGED, UM, AS A FLAT AMOUNT EVERY YEAR FOR US.
AND THAT'S IN LIKE THE BOND PAPERS OR HOWEVER THAT WORKS? YES.
SO, AND, UM, THE, UH, THE RATE OF 14 CENTS, UM, IF THAT WERE TO CHANGE, THAT WOULDN'T AFFECT OUR 200,000 AT ALL, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO, UM, AND THE CALCULATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE OF THE 14 CENTS THAT PAYS OFF, THAT PAYS OFF WHAT WE NEED TO PAY OFF FOR THE BONDS.
THAT'S, IT PAYS OFF WHAT WE NEED TO PAY OFF FOR THE BOND.
AND IT ALSO PAYS OFF THE EXPENSES OF THE, THE, THE LABOR AND CALCULATIONS THAT LIKE THE FINANCE TEAM HAS TO DO TO WORK THROUGH THAT, WHICH IS, UM, ANYWHERE FROM LIKE, LIKE ON PAGE 29.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTANT FEES, TRUSTEE FEES, ALL THAT STUFF.
THAT ALL GOES FROM THE 14 CENTS.
THEY KIND OF, EVERY YEAR THEY SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH ARE WE GONNA SPEND? WE'LL, 14 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT COVER THAT.
OKAY, THEN WE WON'T CHANGE IT.
WELL, IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT YEARS 12 THROUGH 17, 2012, 2017, THERE WAS DEFICITS, UH, ON THE BOOKS.
AND THAT, UH, COLLECTED PER FOOT NUMBER DID NOT CHANGE IN THOSE YEARS IN DATED 12 SECONDS AND EVEN THROUGH A DEFICIT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT 25 NUMBERS, WERE IN A DEFICIT OF $2,500.
AND THE QUESTION WILL BE, WELL, WHY DOESN'T THE JUST GOES TO 15 CENTS TO ELIMINATE THAT DEFICIT? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION OTHER THAN TO LOOK HISTORICALLY THAT THE CITY WROTE OUT DEFICITS.
UM, 'CAUSE I WOULD ATTRIBUTE THAT TO CALCULATIONS AND INTEREST RATES FOR DOUBT MM-HMM
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BUT, BUT I THINK THE POINT IS THAT THE $200,000 IS, IS A STATIC NUMBER THAT IS METER REVENUE THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THAT BOND PAYMENT.THE, THE PART OF THE EXPENSE AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOBBLED UP WITH THE MEL RULES.
AND THE QUESTION SHOULD BE, WELL, WHY DON'T THEY MANIPULATE THE MEL TO ELIMINATE THAT, UH, AND THEN PERHAPS NEGOTIATE SOME OF THOSE FEES DOWN.
THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD ASK HIM JUST DATED DIRECTLY THROUGH YOU.
BUT, UM, SO THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT REAL QUICK.
SO YEAH, SO, BUT JUST FOR OUR PURPOSES, IF THE 14 CENTS WERE TO GO UP, UM, WE WOULDN'T GET ANY OF THAT MONEY.
THAT WOULD BE THE HOURS TO DO ANYTHING WITH.
SO, SO IT WOULDN'T AFFECT OUR BUDGET ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? NOPE.
WOULDN'T AFFECT, WOULDN'T AFFECT OUR BUDGET.
THE ONLY THING THAT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET IS WE HAVE TO PAY 200,000 EVERY YEAR.
SO YEAH, NO MATTER IF THIS GOES UP OR DOWN, AND AGAIN, THEY CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN ZERO TO 66 CENTS.
AND THEY, UH, THIS GETS REEVALUATED EVERY YEAR, SO THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A, AN IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO STAY STAGNANT AT 14 CENTS OR GO UP OR DOWN.
THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? UH, THERE ARE TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS SITTING, UH, AT THE TABLE TODAY.
I, I THINK THIS IS A FINE USE OF ROUGHLY THAT I PAY MY GROUP PAYS, WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE TO ME.
I DUNNO WHAT MR. CAST, I FEEL THE SAME, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN IT WENT UP TO 14, IT WAS VERY, VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
IT WAS, UH, I DO REMEMBER THAT.
NOT OUR CONTR YEAH, NO, BUT NO LESS CONTROVERSIAL AND SHOCKINGLY IGNORED WHEN WE HAVE
UH, SO, AND I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.
UM, AND INCREASES DON'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
UH, ANY OTHER FUTURE IMPRESSIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
CAN WE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE ON THIS REPORT, PLEASE? UH, BRIAN COCHRAN.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURES HERE BETWEEN THE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS AND THE FUNDING METHOD, BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME DISPARITIES HERE.
AND IT'S FRUSTRATING TO HEAR THAT THE SUGGESTION IS THAT NOTHING THAT CHANGES THAT RATE IS AT ITS LOWEST OF THE POSSIBLE RANGE.
THAT COULD BE THERE, WILL IMPACT ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S SETTING THE RATE OR WHERE THESE RECORD PICTURES ARE COMING FROM, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO COUNCIL AND WILL ALL CERTAINLY BE RUBBER STAMPS.
BUT I SEE THIS BODY WANTING MORE MONEY, MORE REVENUES FOR THINGS THAT THINGS TO DO.
AND I SEE THINGS LIKE HOLIDAY DECLARATIONS AT $27,000.
THAT, TO ME, IN A COST CUTTING ENVIRONMENT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO TRIM THAT, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S NO URGENCY TO TRY AND CHANGE THAT RATE TO DO PAYOFF DEBT MORE RAPIDLY.
YOU GETTING REVENUE FUNDS, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT UNTIL 2030 WHERE YOU'RE PAYING OFF LESS DEBT AND, AND MORE OF THE PRINCIPAL.
I DO WONDER, UH, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR CURRENT AND NEW COMMISSIONERS, ESPECIALLY TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT THESE MECHANISMS BECAUSE IT'S A CONVOLUTED ONE, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNITY IS FRUSTRATED WITH WHERE MONEY IS GOING IN LIGHT OF THE REQUEST ON ITEM COMING UP ABOUT THE, UH, WRITTEN PARKING METER INCREASE.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S OFTEN COMING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND HAVING RESIDENTIAL IMPACTS, WHEREAS THE LOWEST POSSIBLE IMPACTS ARE TO THE BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS ON SECOND STREET.
AND THAT FORMULA IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S ROOM TO FIGURE OUT OPTIONS FOR RATHER THAN JUST ASSUMING WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED ROUTINELY HERE.
SO AGAIN, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE FURTHER ANALYSIS AND LOOK AT THE DEEPER PICTURES OF WHERE THESE FUNDS CAN BE GOING AND WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE HAD.
UH, DO WE NOR ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
I, MELINDA COTTON ON PAGE 24 THAT SAYS THAT PART OF THE, UH, FUNDING IS AN AVERAGE EMPLOYEE RATE OF 20
AND THE PUBLIC HAS REPEATEDLY ASKED HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE THERE DISTRICT? AND WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN AN ANSWER.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS APPEARS TO BE A PUBLIC RECORD, AND YET THAT INFORMATION IS A, UH, IS IN TURN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE CITY CLERK.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IN PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ANSWER OR STAFF.
BUT WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS DURING A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, IS THERE NO RECOGNITION THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD RECEIVE AN ANSWER AT SOME POINT? HOW
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DOES THAT WORK? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.SO IT'S NOT A DIALOGUE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER THEY'VE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY CAN ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OF STAFF, BUT, UH, THERE'S NO REAL DIALOGUE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSIONER'S DISCRETION TO HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
SO IF WE ASK THAT QUESTION IN AN AGENDA ITEM, THE COMMISSIONERS COULD ASK FOR A RESPONSE FROM THE COUNCIL, WHOEVER, WHOEVER IS AT YOUR DISCRETION.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? WE HAVE A MOTION.
CLEARLY THOSE 14 CENTS ARE DICTATED BY THE CITY, RIGHT? SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HERE.
YOU CAN'T SAY GIMME 66 CENTS SO THAT I CAN FUND HOLIDAY AT COURT, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE.
SO TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY DICTATES THAT.
I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A CHOICE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A DEBT TO BE, UH, PAID FOR THAT'S 200,000 DEBT THAT'S GIVEN.
AND TO ME, THOSE COSTS THAT ARE LIKE THE 16,000 SEEM PRETTY REASONABLE.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA THAT IT DOESN'T GET RAISED BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE EXTRA FUNDS FOR ANYTHING ELSE IN BEAUMONT STORE.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? I'M, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA TAKE YOUR COMMENT AS A COMMENT AND OKAY.
AND, UH, NOT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE A MOTION.
RECEIVE AND FILE THE 2024 ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THIS IS A SEPARATE HANDOUT, PUBLIC CAMPUS HANDOUT.
UH, THIS IS THE HANDOUT DATED JULY COMPLETE, OR JUNE 25TH, 2025.
DO YOU WANNA REVIEW THIS? UH, HONOR, THIS IS, UH, JUST A KIND OF A FOUR YEAR INFORMATION.
THIS IS A REQUIRED CONTENT FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UM, THE REQUIRED CONTENT THAT IS IN THIS ANNUAL REPORT ARE THINGS SUCH AS THE NAME OF THE BODY ARE OBJECTIVE, OUR OBJECTIVES AND FUNCTIONS, ALL OF OUR REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL THAT YEAR.
OUR NUMBER OF MEETINGS, THE ATTENDANCE RECORDS, NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS CONDUCTED.
UM, A LIST OF CITY PERSONNEL REGULARLY ASSIST.
AND THIS IS THE CHANCE FOR US TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY CLERK AND CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHETHER OR NOT THE BODY SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, MODIFIED, OR CONTINUED.
UM, IF YOU GO THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE ALL OUR OBJECTIVES AND FUNCTIONS, OUR ATTENDANCE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR, SO JANUARY TO DECEMBER, 2024, AND THEN ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE ONLY HAD TWO AND COMMISSIONERS SERVING THAT CALENDAR YEAR AND THE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED DURING THAT YEAR.
CITY PERSONNEL ASSISTING IN THE COMMISSION, AND A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY MANAGER WHETHER THE BODY SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, MODIFIED, OR CONTINUED.
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE BODY BE CONTINUED AND ENCOURAGE THAT LONG BEACH CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND CITY MANAGER UTILIZE THE COMBINED EXPERIENCE OF ALL OF THESE COMMISSIONERS IN THE OBJECTIVE AND FUNCTIONS ABOVE.
UH, COMMERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT, PLEASE? OH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER
THAT HAS GOT PERFECT ATTENDANCE, AND SHE, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE, I HAVE TO SAY.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS ON THIS REPORT? UH, APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT TOOK, PUT THIS TOGETHER.
UM, IT CERTAINLY CHRONICLES THE EFFORT THAT WE PUT THROUGH, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE FIFTH MONTH OF THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, I'D ALSO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE, ON THIS REPORT.
UH, SOME POINTS TO TOUCH ON, BECAUSE I'VE REVIEWED BOTH THIS REPORT IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S REPORT, UH, WHICH ARE THE FIRST THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS SUBMITTED.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COMPARES TO OTHERWISE ACROSS THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOTABLE THAT, UH, AND I DO WANT TO TENDANCE, UH, THAT'S GOING UP.
AND I SEE THE CURRENT NEW COMMISSIONERS, UH, BEING ENGAGED
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ROUTINELY.UM, I DO HAVE TO NOTE THAT, UH, WE ARE STILL AT THE SAME NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED IN THE PRIOR REPORT PERIOD, WHICH IS NINE OF 12 POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES.
WE KNOW THAT MOST, UH, COMMISSIONS IN AND CITY, AND THESE DO NOT MEET DECEMBER UNDERSTANDABLE THERE.
BUT EVERY MONTH MISSED IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC AND ENGAGE EFFECTIVELY.
SO, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE, UH, COMMISSION TO SEEK A PERFECT, AS A A UNIT GOING FORWARD FROM THERE.
AND, UM, SOMETHING IN THERE I WANT TO FLAG AS WELL, IT WON'T REFLECT IT IN THIS REPORT, BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING WHEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AGENDAS THAT ARE ADVANCED THAT HAVE NOTHING NEW, NO BUSINESS ITEMS ON THEM.
AND I REFLECT THAT ON, UH, FEBRUARY, MARCH OF THIS YEAR, WHERE IT WAS JUST REPORTS.
IT WAS NOTHING CHANGING ON THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S SO MANY URGENT CONSIDERATIONS AND ITEMS THAT CAN BE TAKEN UP.
IT'S FRUSTRATING TO FIND 'EM NOT ADVANCED.
AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, I WANTED TO REFLECT ON SOMETHING THAT, UH, HAS BEEN AN ISSUE, WHICH IS THE FOLLOW UP ON AGENDA ITEMS AND HOW THEY'RE COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, EFFECTIVELY UNDERTOOK OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE SUBJECT OF EXPANDING LEADER HOURS SOME MONTHS AGO WHEN THAT DISPOSITION WAS MADE TO DROP THAT ITEM THAT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED IN THIS SECTION IN ANY FORM WHATSOEVER.
IT WAS COMMUNICATED IN OTHER CHANNELS THROUGH A-B-S-B-A ONLINE AND FACEBOOK.
UH, THAT FRUSTRATES THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW, END WITH THE FOLLOW UP.
IF YOU HAVE AN AGENDA, I KNOW PEOPLE WANNA KNOW WHERE IT GOES AND WHAT THE RESULTS WILL BE, AND POSITION THAT FOR FUTURE THINGS SINCE WE'RE NOW REVISITING THAT IN DIFFERENT FORM WITH A NEW REQUEST FROM METER REVENUE EXPANSION.
SO, UH, I WANT TO SAY I'M APPLAUDING THE, UH, THE GAINS MADE SO FAR, ESPECIALLY OUR NEW, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UH, GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE PERFECT INTENTS FOR THE ENTIRE BODY AND TO TAKE MEANINGFUL ACTION AND HAVE MEANINGFUL AGENDA ITEMS IN THE GOING FORWARD.
UH, ANY REPUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE A MOTION.
UH, ITEM LAST, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR RECEIVING A FILE, A DISCUSSION TO INCREASE IN PARKING BE A RATE OF TWO 25 CENTS PER HOUR.
UH, ADDITIONALLY AT A THREE HOUR MAXIMUM FROM THE CURRENT TWO HOUR EXPOSURE.
UM, THIS IS A RESPONSE TO INCREASING, UH, COSTS THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING AND GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE.
UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, GOES DIRECTLY TO, UH, METERS.
THIS IS NOT A TAX FOR RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS OWNERS.
LET'S OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION, PLEASE.
ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I'M JUST GONNA START OFF BY SAYING, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO DO THIS.
THERE'S, WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMUNICATION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO.
WE KNOW THAT WE ARE IN FOR A BIG HIT WITH THE NEW CLEANING GROUP.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I'M A RESIDENT AND THEN A COMMISSIONER.
SO AS A RESIDENT, AND I WILL SAY A COMMISSIONER, I KNOW WHAT THE JOB IS OF THIS COMMISSIONER IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS DISTRICT TO MAKE IT SAFE AND KEEP IT CLEAN, IMMACULATE, IF WE CAN, AND TO, UH, MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S FUN OR FUNNY.
EVERYTHING IN OUR LIVES IS GOING UP.
AND SO I HOPE EVERYBODY WILL LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, YEAH, I JUST, UH, WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE, UH, THE, UH, ESTIMATED, UH, REVENUE WAS CALCULATED.
WE'VE GOT LIKE TWO VARIABLES THERE.
UM, ONE, THE ADDITIONAL 25 CENTS AND TWO, THE EXPANSION OF THREE HOURS.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF THE, THE, UH, PARAMETERS IN THE, UH, UH, THIS IS JUST WITH THE, YEAH.
AND APOLOGIES FOR INTERRUPTING.
THIS IS JUST FOR THE PARKING METER RATE INCREASE.
THIS IS NOT FOR THE EXTENDING HOURS.
SO THE REVENUE WOULD ONLY BE FOR 10 TO SEVEN, AND THE, IT WOULD BE ONLY FOR 2 25 AN HOUR.
PARDON? THE, I THINK THE CONFUSION IS YOU'RE SEEING A THREE HOUR EXTENSION THAT ISN'T, THAT, THAT IS MORE OF AN ACCOMMODATION, UH, AS AN ADDITIONAL HOUR THAT THE PUBLIC CAN BE AT A METER RIGHT.
TO AFFORD, UH, GOING TO, UH, A SERVICE, A SALON, UH, EATING, SHOPPING, UH, JUST
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INSTEAD OF, UH, THE, THE PRESSURE OF HAVING TO REDO YOUR METER IN TWO HOURS IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STAY LONGER AND, UH, LEAVE MONEY IN SHORE, UH, ENJOY THE SHORE, UH, FOR AN EXTRA HOUR PER SESSION.NO, THAT'S, BUT I WAS, I WAS, I WASN'T SURE HOW TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IF THEY CAN STAY LONGER, UM, CERTAINLY THAT'S GOOD FOR, FOR THE BUSINESSES.
UM, BUT, UM, I'M NOT CLEAR WHETHER IT PRODUCES OR INCREASES REVENUE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE, THE THOUGHT WAS ON A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AS MUCH AS IT WAS AN AMENITY FOR PEOPLE AVAILING THEMSELVES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE'VE HEARD, UH, LOTS OF ASKS, COUNCIL OFFICES HAD LOTS OF ASKS.
BUSINESSES HAVE HAD LOTS OF ASKS.
UM, PERSONALLY, I'VE HAD LOTS OF ASKS, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU EXTEND, UH, THE TIME OF SESSION, UH, TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO EAT, SHOP, GO GET THEIR HAIR DONE, GO TO THE BANK, UH, VISIT AN ACCOUNTANT, TALK TO THE ATTORNEY, WHATEVER THERE IS THEY'RE DOING.
AND JUST THE EXTENSION OF SESSION, UH, WAS THE ASK.
AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A, AN ANALYTIC TO DETERMINE IF THAT ADDS REVENUE OR NOT.
SEE, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS SINCE THE, UM, THE POINT OF THIS EXERCISE RIGHT NOW IS REVENUE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT WAS THAT IF SOMEONE CAN STAY LONGER, UM, AT THE METER, UM, THAT IT MIGHT REDUCE REVENUE.
UM, AND I, AGAIN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE THINK ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT, THAT STRUCK ME AS, AS A, AT THIS POTENTIAL RISK.
I, I I I, AND THAT WOULD BE DEFEATING THE PURPOSE.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT COULD BE A RISK, ALTHOUGH THAT ANALYTIC TO MY KNOWLEDGE DOESN'T EXIST AT THIS POINT.
UH, AND I THINK IT'S AN OFFERING OF, UH, THE AIM FOR THE, UH, WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE AND WE'RE GIVING, UH, UH, AN ACCOMMODATION, AN EXTRA ACCOMMODATION.
AND, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T, I HAVE NOT HEARD, UH, ANY REAL OBJECTION TO THE EXTENSION OF A SESSION.
UH, AS I WOULD HAVE HEARD THAT WE'RE REDUCING A SESSION FOR ONE HOUR.
UM, I THINK WE'RE MAKING BE EXTENDING THE SESSION TO THREE HOURS.
I THINK WE'RE JUST ADDING, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, ENJOY THIS THING, BUT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, UH, PER SESSION.
SO, UM, THESE THINGS CAN CHANGE.
UM, THESE THINGS CAN NOT BE APPROVED.
UH, DOWNTOWN VERY WELL, MAY NOT BE.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE DISCUSSION.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HEAR, UH, BOTH SIDES.
AND THEN WE WILL AS A COMMISSION, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION CITY COUNCIL ON NOT ONLY THE INCREASE AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT'S ONE HOUR, UH, SESSION SESSION.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
SO, AGAIN, THAT'S, I, I, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, DAF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED THE, THE FUNDS.
UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE X THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE FOR HERE.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING X MINUS SOMETHING.
UM, MY QUESTION ACTUALLY IS FOR MR. LINK.
'CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, UH, THREE HOUR EXTENSION OR THE ONE HOUR EXTENSION, TWO, THREE HOURS, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS IT WOULD MOST LIKELY LEAD TO AN INCREASE.
AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHT IS ON WHY IT COULD POSSIBLY DECREASE REVENUE.
SO WILL, AND AND I AM CONFESSING THAT MATH IS NOT MY STRONG SUBJECT
BUT I'M THINKING THAT IF THERE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP THE SAME HOURS, UM, AND WE ALLOW SOMEONE TO STAY AT THE SAME METER FOR THREE HOURS, UM, THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY FEWER WHERE PEOPLE PARKING THERE.
UM, AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE 25 CENTS AN HOUR INCREASE, UM, IS OFFSET BY THE FEWER PEOPLE PARKING THERE.
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ONCE AND I HAD A PARTYANY OTHER, MY, MY THOUGHT IS THAT WITH THAT EXTENSION, I COULD SEE HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON HOW YOU ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE METERS.
IF YOU'RE USING THE APP, I CAN SEE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REVENUE TO INCREASE, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT PAY FOR THREE HOURS MIGHT USE TWO AND A HALF, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON COMING IN, NOW WE START DOUBLING UP ON CERTAIN TIME SEGMENTS.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PAYING THROUGH THE APP, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT EXTRA TIME THAT WAS LEFT.
YOU, YOU START FRESH EVERY TIME YOU PARK.
UM, AS OPPOSED TO FEEDING IT DIRECTLY, MAYBE FINE AN EXTRA HALF AN HOUR AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
UM, THAT, THAT'S AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION.
AND I WILL SAY THAT, THAT THAT HOURS, UH, WHILE THEY HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, UH, THIS, THEY'RE NOT SET, THEY'RE NOT SAME PER SE.
UH, IN YEARS PAST, IN THE RECENT YEARS, UH, THE LIMIT WAS EIGHT HOURS IN PARKING LOT METERS THAT FACED THE WALL.
THE THEORY ON THAT WAS, UH, AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING THEORY, UH, IT WAS TO ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO PARK FOR A SHIFT MM-HMM
UH, AND THOSE SLOTS, UH, AND BE MONETIZED AT EIGHT HOURS AT A TIME, UH, TO THINK THAT SOMEONE WOULD PARK AT THOSE METERS AND PAY LESS TO GO EAT.
SO THE THEORY WAS IT WAS FOR EMPLOYEE SHIFT.
WELL, WE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, AND IT CHANGED BECAUSE THAT WASN'T EXACTLY THE BEST USE OF THE SPACE.
WE WANTED TO PROMOTE TURNOVER, UH, WHICH WOULD PROMOTE MORE VISITORS.
THOSE METERS WE DROPPED IN, UH, WEIGHTS INTO THE, INTO THE PARKING LOTS SO THAT WHEN A CAR LEFT, IT RESET THE METER AND PROMOTING THE TURNOVER WOULD CREATE, UH, OSTENSIBLY, THEORETICALLY MORE REVENUE.
SO TO SAY THAT WE WOULD BETA TEST, UH, AN ADDITIONAL HOUR TO MAKE A THREE HOUR SESSION, AND THINK THAT TWO YEARS FROM NOW WE THINK, WOW, THIS REALLY, THIS, THIS EXPERIMENT WASN'T AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE THOUGHT.
UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY PLUS OR MINUS BENEFIT FROM IT.
MAYBE WE'LL CHANGE IT AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT AGAIN, HAVING A CONVERSATION, UH, IS, IS MUCH OF THE EFFORT HERE.
BEFORE WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY, PLEASE, WHAT IS THE REVENUE INCREASE FROM THIS PROJECTED? THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO REVENUE.
UH, THIS IS NOT A REVENUE CONVERSATION.
THIS IS JUST, UH, DROPPING IN THE EXTRA HOUR AS AN ACCOMMODATION.
UM, FOR, IT'S AN OFFSET FOR THREE METER INCREASE.
IT'S OFFERING INCREASE, IT'S OFFERING AN ADDITIONAL HOUR.
OH, I, I GUESS THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, IT'S NOT CLEAR.
NO, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ESTIMATED BUDGET AT, UH, $2 AN HOUR IS 1.3 MILLION IN THE ESTIMATED BUDGET FOR, UH, TWO AND A QUARTER IS ABOUT 1.5.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN REVENUE ADDING A QUARTER.
THAT'S, THAT IS EXACTLY, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO COMPENSATION FOR ALLOWANCE OF THAT EXTRA HOUR.
BUT THAT NOW GETS US PAST OUR MAKE SURE A, IT IS A START.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE COVER THE GAP.
IT IS, IT IS A, IT IS A BEGINNING, UH, FOR CONSERVATION FOR, BUT IT DOES NOT, UH, ADDRESS THE GAP IN OTHER QUALITY LIFE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.
SO THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
SO ARE WE JUST, ARE WE LOOKING AT INCREMENTALLY DOING THIS KIND OF, THIS COMMISSION HAS INCREMENTALLY INCREASED PARKING METER RATES FOR THE ENTIRE TIME THAT IT IS SAD? SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES.
SO WHAT WE DON'T KNOW THOUGH, IS THE NUMBER THAT GIVES US THE, THE RIGHT AMOUNT TO COVER SECURITY AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE
UM, BUT LIKE, LIKE ANY ENDEAVOR, I THINK INCREMENTALLY, I THINK INCREMENTALLY ATTACKING IT IS BETTER THAN THE, UH, THE PHRASEOLOGY WOULD BE, UH, RIP THE BANDAID OFF.
UM, I'M NOT AS MUCH A FAN OF THAT.
I THINK IN CANVASING HIS COMMISSION
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OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, HE AGREED THAT THAT'S NOT THE BEST ATTACK.UH, THE BEST APPROACH IS TO INCREMENTALLY DO IT.
UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME AS WE'RE DEMONSTRATING NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UM, ADDING SOMETHING LITTLE GIVE AND TAKE.
IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE, THE RECORDS WE TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING HOURS YES.
AS A WAY OF INCREASING REVENUE.
UM, ALL OF THESE THINGS, UH, UH, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, WILL BE DISCUSSED AT A LATER TIME TO ADDRESS BUDGET SHORTFALLS, UH, TO CREATE THE REVENUE NECESSARY TO, UH, CONTINUE THE, THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE, THE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COME TO EXPECT.
AND THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AS OF IF, IF IT GOES, IF IT GETS APPROVED OCTOBER ONE.
SO THIS IS FOR NEXT, FOR OCTOBER ONE.
THAT'S THE SOONEST IT CAN CHANGE.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT NOW, I, I I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE BEFORE THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, HOW MANY MORE MEETINGS AT THAT OCTOBER.
ONE RECOMMENDATIONS WE WILL NEED TO KNOW, WE WILL NEED TO BUDGET QUESTION.
I GUESS WE NEED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF FIGURED OUT BY THE JUNE MEETING IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT TEN ONE DEADLINE.
I THINK THE VENDORS WILL, WILL BE LEFT BY THEM.
AND THEIR COSTS IS THEY GO UP, WE WILL HAVE TO GO UP.
JUST THAT'S WHAT INSTEAD OF JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IS AS MUCH AS I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GO UP FOR ALL THE REASONS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE PRACTICAL ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IF THIS WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS FOR NEXT YEAR WITH SOME UNKNOWNS.
I, WE, WE THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRM NUMBER YET FOR NEXT YEAR ON SOME ITEMS. SO WE MAY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THINK ABOUT OTHER WAYS TO, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE A BIG GIANT CUSHION, BUT WE HAVE A LOT, NO, WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE ALWAYS, BUT KNOWING THAT WHAT'S COMING IS, YOU KNOW, WITH EACH VENDOR, I THINK WE, WHAT YOU GUYS DOESN'T SEE, WELL, THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE, IS THIS, OR CAN WE OPERATE AT A DEFICIT? IS THAT EVEN AN OPTION? BECAUSE I SEE THE BOND SITUATION, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A DEFICIT.
SO WHAT'S UNCLEAR TO ME, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, IS THAT, ARE WE SAYING THAT IF WE END UP AT A DEFICIT, THAT SOMEHOW THAT DEFICIT GETS COVERED? THAT WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS HOW TO MAKE IT UP.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE, WE JUST LIVE WITH IT AS A DEFICIT.
AND WHO PAYS THE DIFFERENCE? IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE OF THE, UM, OF THE PACKET, IT HAS AN ESTIMATED BUDGET OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH.
WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE HOLE ABOUT 109,000, UM, IN TERMS OF THE DEFICIT, THAT DEFICIT WOULD EAT INTO OUR FUND BALANCE.
SO WE DO HAVE A FUND BALANCE AVAILABLE THAT WOULD LEAVE US AT THE END OF FY 25, AT 244,000 ROUGHLY IN WHAT OUR FUND BALANCE WOULD BE WHEN WE TAKE THAT SHORTFALL.
UM, THE NEXT COLUMN, FY 26, IF WE INCREASED THE REVENUE BY 25 CENTS, IT WOULD PUT US BACK IN THE GREEN.
IF WE DO NOT ADD ANY OTHER SERVICES, BUT KEEP EVERYTHING THE WAY IT IS, IT WOULD KEEP, IT WOULD PUT US BACK IN THE GREEN.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE, IF WE WERE TO REALIZE THE 25% INCREASE OF TWO METERS, UH, IN CONCERT WITH EXTENDING HOURS BY HOURS OF OPERATION, FOR EXAMPLE, BY TWO HOURS, WHICH WOULD ADD ROUGHLY $500,000 MORE MM-HMM
UH, BY PROJECTION, UM, THEN WE COULD LOOK AT GOING BACK TO OUR LEVEL OF SECURITY, UH, AND ATTACKING OTHER PROJECTS THAT, UH, WE HAVE MADE CUTS TO, UH, AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE GOING UP.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE FISCAL YEAR.
AND UNDERSTAND THAT DEFICITS ARE, ARE SNAPSHOT, NOT, THEY DON'T FLOW THROUGH.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT SOMEONE DOWNTOWN IS RUNNING A CHECK, AND THE CHECK IS GONNA COST.
IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT THAT CUT AND DRY.
UH, AND REVENUES ARE FLUCTUATING.
UH, AND AS WE CAN SEE BY OUR REPORTS MONTH IN AND MONTH OUT, REVENUE DOES INCREASE.
UH, IT INCREASES FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
MORE PEOPLE COME INTO THE DISTRICT.
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OUR INCREASES THAT FLUCTUATE.AND LASTLY, THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THOSE DON'T CHANGE.
UH, ONCE A CONTRACT IS DROPPED IN, HOPEFULLY OUR, OUR CLEANING CONTRACT WILL BE A MULTI YEAR.
AND WE'LL KNOW BECAUSE WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROJECT WHAT THOSE, UH, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASES TO THOSE CONTRACTS WILL BE.
UH, AND ONE LAST THING IS THAT SECURITY IS NOT ON CONTRACT.
IT'S ON, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF LATITUDE IN, UH, CHANGING WHAT WE SPEND THERE, UH, UP AND DOWN.
WE HAVE DECREASED THAT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE LAST, UH, 45 TO 60 DAYS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PRODUCE THOSE.
SO IS THAT A CONCERN? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT, IS SECURITY.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SEEM TO CARE ABOUT MOST, AND IT'S CALLING THIS INSECURITY.
AND WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO, UH, ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE DIRECTLY.
UM, AND KNOWING THAT, THAT BOTH OF THOSE SERVICES GO UP IN COST, UH, AND WE CANNOT CONTROL THAT.
SO ARE WE MAKING THIS DECISION ONLY ON THE INCREASE, NOT ON THE EXPANSION, DAMAGE, ANYTHING ELSE? OR WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE TO MAKE THE FULL RECOMMENDATION, THIS EXPLORATION DISCUSSION? OR IS THIS A DEFENDANT DISCUSSION? YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE TO EXPAND OUR REQUEST TO ANTICIPATE, UH, BRINGING, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SECURITY EXPENDITURE BACK TO THE PAR LEVEL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
AND I, I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY YET THAT ISN'T IN FAVOR OF MORE SECURITY FOR THE SAKE.
AND WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL AS FAR, DO WE HAVE THAT NUMBER OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, VIA EITHER EXTENSION OF BALANCE OR OTHERWISE? WHAT'S THE NUMBER? I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THE NUMBER AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE COMPROMISING.
IF WE, I THINK WE COULD BACK INTO THAT NUMBER BY LOOKING AT WHAT WE WERE AT PEAK EXPENSE ON SECURITY, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND MAKE THAT A TARGET.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE LEAVING OUT, UH, THE CONVERSATION OF CHANGING HOURS ON SECURITY TO MEET CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, OR NOT REQUIREMENTS, BUT, BUT ASKS, UH, TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE EYES ON THE STREET AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR RECOMMEND IS THAT WE SEE THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS IN EARLIER MONTHS AND THE WAYS AND DECISIONS.
AND NOW THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS WE, I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS FELT, LET'S SEE WHERE THAT LAST INCREASE PUT US, YOU KNOW, WE MADE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHERE IT WOULD LEAVE US ON A, A REVENUE BASIS, AND THEN WE WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER THAT WAS SATISFACTORY.
NOW WE'RE AT ANOTHER POINT IN TIME WHERE WE'RE GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH THE LOSS OF, YOU KNOW, OF, OF THE COURT IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR BOTTOM LINE.
WE KNEW IT WOULD, BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIALLY ACCURATE NUMBERS ON THAT.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, CAN WE GET CLOSER ON ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT IT WOULD TAKE MM-HMM
THAT IS WHAT I, WE'RE KIND OF THROWING A, THE, THE PROBLEM IS COLD AND WE'RE THROWING A BLANKET ON IT MM-HMM
UH, WHERE MAYBE WE ONLY NEED A KNIT CAP OR SOME SOCKS.
SO I APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, UH, BY PERHAPS LOOKING AT THE, THE PEAK, OUR PEAK SPEND ON SECURITY.
THIS IS, WELL, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR NEW NORM.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUR PEAK.
YOU HAVE TO CREATE MORE REVENUE.
BUT I'M SAYING THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR ARE THE MOST WE'VE EVER SPENT.
IF WE WANT TO GO UP EITHER WAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.
EITHER CUT OR, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WHAT WOULD BE, IF THERE'S AN IDEAL, IS THERE A TARGET OF WHAT WE WOULD THINK IS THE IDEAL FOR SECURITY? AND FACTORING THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE, BUT THEN LET'S, LET'S MAKE THAT A, UH, AN AGENDA ITEM FOR, UH, JIM.
AND, UH, WE HAVE TO DECIDE JUNE.
WELL, I, I, WE CAN PRESENT AND DECIDE IN THE SAME MEETING.
THAT'S CERTAINLY, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL SMART PEOPLE HERE.
UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN PUT THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER, UM, UM, AND WE CAN BRING BACK, UH,
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A TARGET SPEND AMOUNT FOR SECURITY, TARGET SPEND FOR, UH, WELL, CERTAINLY I THINK WE, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE RRP ISN'T COMPLETE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE TARGET SPEND ON, UH, CLEAN STREETS IS.AND, UH, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT, THAT WE ATTEND TO.
UH, AND LET'S, IF WE HAVE A, IF WE'RE AT PAR REVENUE FOR, UH, FY 26, UH, THEN SO BE IT.
BUT IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DEFICIT, THEN WE NEED TRY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, NOT NECESSARILY ADDING TO THE, UH, HOURLY REVENUE, BUT EXPANDING HOURS TO, UH, ACHIEVE THAT.
UM, WHICH ARE INTERESTING SOLUTIONS.
AGAIN, UH, THESE ARE NOT, UH, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT FISCALLY IMPACT RESIDENTS.
UH, THEY DON'T FISCALLY IMPACT BUSINESS.
UH, AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO MAKE, UH, WHEN ARGUMENTS COME UP OF WHY ARE WE INCREASING? UH, SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SO LET'S MAKE THAT AN OBJECTIVE FOR JIM.
CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING? UH, I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD.
I THINK WE WANT TO PLUG IN THE, THE TOTAL OF THESE SERVICES FOR SECURITY AND MATCH IT TO REVENUE.
AND IF THERE'S A DEFICIT, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER, UH, REVENUE INCREASE MODEL.
IF WE'RE AT PAR, THEN WE'RE AT PAR.
UM, QUESTION MEAN, ISN'T THAT WHAT THIS IS? UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 25%.
THERE'S UNKNOWN, 25%, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT THE CLEAN STREET CONTRACT VALUE IS GONNA BE.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA KNOW THAT IN JUNE.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? WE VERY WELL SHOULD I CAN EITHER CONFIRM OR DENY.
WE MAY OR MAY, WE MAY OR MAY NOT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN WE'RE STILL FLYING THE LINE AND WE HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION FOR JUNE.
WELL, WE, WE HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, AND IT'S CLOSE TO THAT.
THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY CLOSE.
AND, UH, A 4 48 FOR, FOR THE STREETS, UM, THAT LEAVES US WITH 109,000 DEFICIT.
UM, SO THE 25 CENTS COVERS THAT, BUT
IT DOES NOT COVER THE UNKNOWN OF ADDING SECURITY.
IT DOES NOT COVER THE UNKNOWN OF LANDSCAPING PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, PROVIDING PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE.
WELL, I MEAN, KNOW THOSE THINGS.
ARE YOU THE V WE HAVE TO STICK TO BASICS HERE, DON'T WE? THOSE ARE BASICS.
WELL, I WOULD SAY, AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT WE JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY IS REALLY NOT AT THE PEAK, THOUGH.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR ALL THE TIME, I DO, I MEAN, I'M OBVIOUSLY, I'M A RESIDENT AS WELL, UM, AND BUSINESS OWNER, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
I MEAN, BESIDES CLEANLINESS, YOU DON'T WANNA WALK DOWN THE STREET AND SEE STUFF ON THE SIDEWALK, UM, OR
BUT PEOPLE ARE NERVOUS, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT.
AND THEY WANT TO GO OUT TO DINNER.
THEY WANT TO GO ENJOY THEIR COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO BRING PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN YOU GET NEGATIVE PRESS ABOUT THIS OR THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT THERE'S SECURITY THERE MAKES A HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE.
AND WE'RE TALKING, THIS ISN'T REALLY THE PEAK.
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS IN AN IDEAL, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR IT, BUT WHAT IS THE IDEAL SCENARIO? YOU KNOW? AND WE, WE TALK ABOUT TREES, AND YET WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY MONEY IN HERE FOR TREES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MONEY IN HERE FOR BEAUTIFICATION.
AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT BEAUTIFICATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY.
SO THAT'S, I MEAN, IF WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE, IF WE WANT THINGS TO STAY STATIC OR GO BACKWARDS, THEN THAT'S ONE THING.
WE ALSO, ALSO, PLEASE, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP.
UH, WE MAY NEED ADDITIONAL STEAM CLEANING.
WE MAY NEED TO REPAIR, UH, THE PARKING LOT ON THE STRUCTURE.
WE MAY NEED TO BUY MORE BIG BELLIES.
AND THERE ARE OTHER ASKS, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY LANDSCAPING EXHIBIT GAS, THE GATEWAY SCIENCE, WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ABSOLUTELY RESOUNDINGLY,
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UH, AGREED WITH AND IS, IS ANTICIPATING.AND WE WANT MONEY FOR THAT, THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I MEAN, THE QUESTION FROM STAFF IS WHAT SHOULD HE DO? AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS TANGIBLE.
UM, AND WE'VE GOT A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, 25 CENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF COULD BE 50 CENTS, BUT ALL WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING BY JUNE, WHICH I THINK WAS THE
I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT HISTORICALLY AND BY ROUTINE AND BY, UH, THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE, UH, BUT I'VE, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN GIVEN OTHER INFORMATION.
I'M NOT CONTRADICTING CITY STAFF ONE BIT.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE ARE MECHANISMS THAT, THAT IT PRESENTED, UH, IT COULD BE CONSIDERED OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR.
IT, IT'S NOT JUST THAT, IT'S NOT AS, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING BY JUNE, WE CAN'T ACT ON IT FOR ANOTHER CALENDAR YEAR.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, THESE THINGS.
AND OUR COUNCILWOMAN, UH, IS APPRECIATIVE.
AND I KNOW THIS OF THE PROJECTS THAT THIS COMMISSION, UH, OVERSEES AND THE COMMUNITY IS APPRECIATIVE OF THESE PROJECTS AND MORE.
AND WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS MORE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CREATE REVENUE FOR THE MORE CONSTANTLY AND CONTINUOUSLY, AS LONG AS WE'RE SITTING HERE AND WHOEVER REPLACES US, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO COST MORE.
THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE LANDSCAPING THE CASE TO BE DONE, REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, ENHANCEMENTS, UH, AND WHATEVER CROPS UP IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO TO COME RIGHT DOWN TO THE, TO THE, TO THE HEAD ON IT AND, AND HAVE A BUDGET THAT HAS NO, UH, VARIANCE WHATSOEVER, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE.
UH, IT IS, WE'RE JUST CREATING MORE WORK, UH, FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, I, I HAVE A, A VERY CLEAR MANDATE.
I DO, AND THIS COMMISSION DOES TO PRESENT AND, AND THE, THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO, TO MAINTAIN THESE PROJECTS THAT THE NEIGHBOR OF THE COMMUNITY, AT MAJORITY, MOST OF, UM, WANT, THEY WANT THESE THINGS.
WHO DOESN'T WANT NICE LANDSCAPING? WHO DOESN'T WANT CLEAN STREETS? WHO DOESN'T WANT SECURITY? THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WHO WE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS A GATEWAY SITE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PRODUCE THE REVENUE TO PAY FOR THAT.
IT'S NOT A DIRECT TAX TO RESIDENTS.
IT'S NOT A DIRECT TAX TO BUSINESS OWNERS.
THIS IS, IS REVENUE FROM PARKING LEADERS THAT WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH, IF THIS COMMISSION IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE CITY THAT GETS TO KEEP 100% OF THAT REVENUE FOR THESE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, IF WE WEREN'T HERE ADJUDICATING THIS MONEY, THAT REVENUE WOULD GO TO GENERAL FUND, AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LOOK ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES CURRENTLY.
SO WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE WANT FROM STAFF? I, I THINK WE WANT TO PROJECT, UM, UH, WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET THROUGH, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26 WITH SOME SURPLUS SO THAT WE CAN ATTACK THE OTHER PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY, UH, WANTS.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR WHEN WE LOOKED BEFORE ABOUT SENDING HOURS OR INCREASING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RATE WE WANTED TO ZERO IN ON, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE ADD, I THINK WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE.
SO REALLY KIND OF LOOKING AT IT AGAIN TO SAY, IF WE EXTEND, EXTEND IT ONE HOUR, TWO HOURS, AND JUST DO THE, I I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS ONE VARIABLE, YOU KNOW, AND DO THE 25 CENTS THAT MIGHT GET US THERE ONE OR TWO HOURS, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY, AND THEN GO WITH THE, THE THREE HOUR LENGTH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN STAY, THAT YOU CAN PART, I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE ARE WHAT THE THINGS THAT WE COULD AT LEAST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON AND SAY, BASED ON THE CURRENT STATE, WE MADE THE OTHER DECISION BASED ON THE CURRENT STATE THEN, AND BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT MAKING ANY KIND OF INCREASE, BUT WE KNEW WE HAD TO WHEN WE DID IT LAST TIME.
AND I, I DON'T BELIEVE I WAS ON THE MISSION AT THAT POINT.
WE, I THINK WHEN I JOINED THE COMMISSION, WE HAD THIS TABLE, BUT WE EXPLORED IT.
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NOW WE HAVE, NOW WE'RE KIND OF GETTING FORCED, YOU KNOW, TO DO IT BASED ON COMMENTS.WE'VE HEARD ABOUT SAFETY, BASED ON COMMENTS.
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION BASED ON WHAT WE THINK IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE FROM COST OF OPERATION.
SO IT'S REASONABLE TO THINK THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND I, I, I THINK IT WON'T REALLY BE THAT PAINFUL IN, IN THE SENSE THAT WHEN YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU WALK TO SECOND STREET A LOT, YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SO IN TERMS OF IMPACT TO RESIDENTS, IT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE COMING TO THE BUSINESSES.
BUT LIKE WE SAY, PEOPLE GET THERE, THEY'RE COMING AND HAVING A GREAT TIME, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS HUGE OF IMPACT FOR VISITORS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WELL BELOW WHAT OTHER CITIES CHARGE FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM RIGHT NOW.
BUT I WON'T SEE THE NUMBERS AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
BRIAN? NO, JUST, UH, SOMETHING TO POINT OUT WITH THE 25 CENTS, IF WE KEPT EVERYTHING THE WAY IT WAS, WE'D HAVE $149,000 OR PLUS JUST THAT COULD GO TO YOUR TRASH CANS, GO TO, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING OPPORTUNITIES.
COULD BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S JUST BY RAISING IT 25 CENTS.
JUST, AND THAT WOULD COVER OUR DEBT THAT WE DID, THAT WE WILL INCUR THIS YEAR.
BRINGING, IT WOULD BRING OUR FUND BALANCE UP, ALLOWING FOR MORE.
AND WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL DISCUSS MORE IN JUNE.
I, THE, THE, THE, ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
CLEARLY THIS IS A, A NO BRAINER THING TO SAY ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE CAN BE USED FOR PROJECTS.
UH, DO I PERSONALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO CREATE A MILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS? THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
UH, BUT, UH, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE 150 AND $300,000, UH, SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY AFFORD, UH, THE ROBUST LANDSCAPING THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR OR ANTICIPATING, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STEP UP SCHEME CLEANING OR SOME ASPECT OF THE CLEAN STREETS PROJECT, UH, OR DROP THE GATEWAY SIGN AND, UH, AND PAY FOR THAT, UH, OVER, UH, TIME.
THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN ALL THINK ABOUT THAT WE'D LIKE TO ACHIEVE WITH THAT MONEY.
BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING FOR ONE MINUTE THAT WE RAISE THE METER REVENUE AND CREATE A SURPLUS OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR JUST 'CAUSE THAT'S COMFORTABLE.
SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT AND THE REALITY OF A COMPLETE PAR, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HIT, UM, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT 25% INCREASE AND EXTENDING HOURS BY, UH, OPERATION BY TWO WOULD CREATE, UH, A SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE, UH, BUDGET FOR US TO LIVE WITH IT.
AND IF WE HAVE A SURPLUS, TERRIFIC.
UM, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE NOT STRUGGLING.
AND AT LEAST WE WON'T HAVE TO SAY EQUIVOCALLY, UH, UNEQUIVOCALLY RATHER, NO TO A GATEWAY HIGH OR NO TO, UH, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT PEOPLE GO ON, OR, UH, WE HAVE A BLISTERINGLY, UH, STEAMY FALL AND WE NEED TO DO TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, SERVICES OF STEAM CLEANING A MONTH.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
THAT'S, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION.
SO, UM, HERE'S HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO WE'VE GOT A POSTER HERE THAT GIVES US 150,000 SURPLUS.
UM, AND THEN DO WE WANT A ROSIER SCENARIO OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO 50? I THINK I, I THINK I JUST OUTLAW ROSIE TRYING TO, WHAT WE'RE ASKING WE TWO 50, I I YOU DO IS YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY ANY NUMBER THAT YOU WANT.
UH, YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HE'S OF COURSE I DIRECTION, WELL, WE COULD DO AN EXTENDED HOUR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE GO BACK TO LOOKING AT EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, TWO HOURS EXTENDED PLUS, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE.
SEE WHERE THAT PUTS US, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING A COUPLE HOURS.
WELL, WE FIGURED IT OUT THAT WE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY CAN BE AT THE METER WELL IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN'T, WELL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY EXTEND THE OPPOSITE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY CALCULATE THAT.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW, BASED ON STATISTICS AND USAGE AT, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 75 TO 80%, BUT AT LATE NIGHT IT GOES UP, UH, BECAUSE OF RESTAURANTS
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AND BAR ACTIVITY.SO YOU CAN COME PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROJECTION OF, OF WHAT THAT REVENUE WILL BE ON THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO HOURS.
WE'LL, I'LL COME UP WITH SOME SCENARIOS TO GIVE YOU GUYS TO GIVE YOU A, AN IDEA OF WHAT WE CAN DO.
BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING.
I, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS IN JUNE, BUT, UM, I MEAN IF WE, WE, IF WE'RE GONNA BE VOTING ON SOMETHING IN JUNE, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, TANGIBLE OPTIONS.
I, I THINK YOU CAN COME CLOSE.
I CAN BRING BACK THE, I CAN BRING BACK THE OLD MATERIALS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE EXTENDING THE EXACTLY.
UM, AND THE, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT UHHUH IS THE, A LITTLE BIT MORE, A DIRECT APPROACH IS INSTEAD OF 25 MINUTES, AN HOUR, IT WAS TO 50.
UH, BUT WE, WE HAD SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT, AND THAT WAS MORE OF THE, THE BANDAID OFF.
AND THIS IS A MORE SOFTER APPROACH, UM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL HOURS, WHICH AGAIN, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, CRITICISM ON THAT.
UM, SO CERTAINLY NOT AS MUCH CRITICISM AS WE SAW WHEN THE DISCUSSION WAS.
AND, AND WE UNDERSTOOD WHY ALL OF US UNDERSTOOD WHY THAT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR, UH, SOME PEOPLE.
SO WE'VE GONE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I'M DEFINITELY EMBRACING THE INCREMENTAL SMALL INCREASE.
AND I, I GET THE IDEA OF UNDERSTANDING THE BIG PICTURE OVERALL.
UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A, YOU KNOW, THE AVAILABLE FUNDS GO UP.
UM, BUT IT FEELS LIKE REAL LIFE BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS FIRST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T BACKSLIDE ANY FURTHER.
AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GIVEN UP ON SOME THINGS AND WE HAVE BACKSLIDE, IT COULD BE WORSE.
AND I THINK TRYING TO BALANCE, UM, THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THE RESIDENTS, THE BUSINESSES IN THIS AREA, UM, AND LOOKING AT THE SMALLEST INCREMENTAL CHANGE THAT WILL GIVE US TIME.
'CAUSE ONE FACTOR THAT I'M, I'M NOT REALLY SEEING IN THE EQUATION, IS AN INCREASE OF THE REVENUE BY USAGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO OVER TIME.
AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FUND BALANCE THAT IS STILL POSITIVE IN MY OPINION, BUYS US AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR TO SEE WHAT AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE WOULD MAKE AS OPPOSED TO A MUCH LARGER CHANGE AT ONE TIME.
UM, 'CAUSE IF THE FUND BALANCE IS STILL POSITIVE, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN TO LIKE OUR LAST 50 CENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE CURRENT DEFICIT, WE COULD COMFORTABLY WITHOUT ANY CHANGE, STILL HAVE ANOTHER YEAR.
SO IF WE HAD AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE HERE, SAW WHAT IT GOT SOME HISTORY, A FEW MONTHS TO SEE WHAT IT DOES, AND THEN GO AND START FEEDING IN SOME OF THESE THINGS WITHOUT A CHANGE OF PITCH COMING ACROSS THE PIPE, THE CHANGE OF PITCH MEANING, UH, AN UNFORESEEN INCREASE IN EXPENSE, UH, RIGHT.
AN UNFORESEEN, UH, MAINTENANCE ISSUE OR, UH, AGAIN, UH, UH, ATTENDING TO PROJECTS THAT WE STARTED YEARS AGO AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE TO FRUITION, RIGHT? UM, WHICH WE DON'T WHAT THAT PRICE TAG IS.
UH, THAT PRICE CAN BE NEGOTIATED STILL.
UH, SO, UM, AND THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT WE WANT TO SEE TO FRUITION.
SO TO, TO BUILD ON THAT, I THINK IF WE COULD PUT SOME OF THE PROJECTED EXPENSES OF THE THINGS THAT PROJECTS, DELAYED PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF, I MEAN, AT LEAST ESTIMATED PROJECTS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF AN ETHER, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS WERE DISCUSSED BEFORE I, I JOINED THE COMMISSION BEFORE SOME OF US JOINED THE COMMISSION, AND WE MIGHT HAVE KNOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, PERIPHERALLY OR PAID ATTENTION TO THAT.
BUT REALLY LOOKING AT IT IN BLACK AND WHITE AND SAYING, WHAT
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ARE OUR PRIORITY PROJECTS AND WHEN ARE THOSE LIKELY TO BE NEEDING TO BE EXECUTED? AND IF THAT'S WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME, WE DON'T WANT WAIT UNTIL YOU GET, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BOTTOM TO SAY, OKAY, NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS.OR, BECAUSE IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING, NOWHERE STUCK.
BUT IF THE SIGNAGE, WHATEVER THE CAUSED END UP BE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE JUST NEED TO, AT LEAST IT HAS TO BE IN OUR RADAR.
WHETHER WE DO IT OR NOT IS ANOTHER STORY.
BUT IF WE SAY, OKAY, FROM EACH YEAR WE'RE GOING TO USE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, SO WE GET TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN REPORT THE SIGNAGE AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OR WHEN WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT EVEN AT OUR PEAK SECURITY, THEY DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS ADEQUATE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID THEY DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS ADEQUATE, THAT WE NEEDED MORE HOURS, THAT WE NEEDED MORE, BETTER SECURITY, LONGER, LONGER HOURS, MORE ATTENTIVENESS.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S JUST DOLLARS AND CENTS.
SO IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND, AND BUSINESSES WANT, THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TOO.
SO WE CAN SAY, LET'S TREAD WATER.
IF YOU TREAD WATER, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING BACKWARDS.
AND I KNOW BEFORE, AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS BEFORE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, YOU DID, UM, IT DID DO THE INCREASE THAT WAS VOTED ON LAST SUMMER.
AND THEN IT CAME UP, BRIAN BROUGHT FORTH ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND I THINK WE TABLED IT, WE TABLED DOING ANYTHING.
SO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JEFF, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT ON.
AND, AND YOU TOO, DAVID, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE BOTH SAYING IS WHAT HAPPENED, WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY MY FIRST MONTH HERE, ALL THESE NUMBERS, LET'S INCREASE IT.
AND WE SAID, NO, LET'S WAIT AND SEE HOW THIS LAST INCREASE GOES.
AND WE WANTED TO SEE IF THE NET IS WHAT WE THOUGHT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE IF OUR ASSUMPTION WAS RIGHT, WE ARE COLLECTING MORE REVENUE, IS IT ON TRACK TO WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE? THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION TO SAY, WE THOUGHT IT, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE X.
IS IT X OR IS IT LESS THAN X OR GREATER THAN X? THAT WOULD TELL US WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT INCREASE WAS.
THEN WE CAN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION ABOUT IF WE MAKE ANY, IF WE MAKE THAT DECISION, IT WILL PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO WHAT THE NUMBER IS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THIS LAST YEAR.
SO I'M IN AGREEMENT IN SOME WAYS WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BASED ON DECISIONS MADE IN THE PAST.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PROJECTS ON DEBT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH A TREE COSTS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE EXPENSIVE HAVING AN ARBORIST COME OUT.
WE HAVE NO MONEY IF WE HAVE TO USE THE CITY'S ARBORIST, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD TAKE US, YOU KNOW, 10 MONTHS OR A YEAR.
DO WE WANNA HIRE AN ARBORIST? MAYBE WE DO, AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THAT YET.
PEOPLE SAY, WE WANT SHADE, WE WANT BEAUTIFUL TREES, WE WANT BEAUTIFICATION.
WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? EXCEPT HERE WE HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAM STRINGING OURSELF TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT THE STATUS QUO OR LESS.
UH, THIS WAS AN AMAZING, UH, DISCUSSION AND DEFERENCE TO TIMES.
AT LEAST I COULD SIT HERE AND Y'ALL KNOW THAT I COULD TALK TO ONE BOX
I THINK WE KNOW WHAT, UH, OUR GOAL IS FOR JUNE.
UM, IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING ONE.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, IN EVIDENCE OF TIME ABOVE COMMENTS.
UH, BRIAN, BRIAN, I KEEP IT BRIEF.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO DISABUSE THE, UH, COLLECTIVELY OF THE NOTION THAT THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
IT MAY NOT BE DRAWING DIRECTLY FROM REVENUES FROM THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S AN INCREMENTAL COST TO KEEPING PEOPLE AWAY WHO WANT TO PARTAKE ON SECOND STREET OPPORTUNITIES.
I WILL NOT BRING GUESTS HERE WHEN I HAVE, WHEN I HAVE TO TELL 'EM THAT THE COST OF PARKING IS $6 FOR THE TIME THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE HERE, AND IT'S ONLY GONNA GO UP.
UM, I DO WANT TO LOOK AT, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT THE INCREMENTAL VERSUS LONG TERM COSTS, BUT I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY RAISED REVENUES, UH, PARKING METER RATES TWICE IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
THIS WILL BE A THIRD ONE, AND I CAN ONLY FORESEE YOU DOING IT IN THE NEXT HALF YEAR AFTER THAT, BASED ON TRAJECTORIES CURRENTLY.
AND THEN TO LOOK AT YOUR BUDGETING.
OVERALL, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE WORK EFFICACY EFFICIENCY.
UM, YOU ARE PAYING 200, $200,000 IN SECURITY COSTS ANNUALLY FOR SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT SEE AS MEANINGFUL.
AND THAT IS SEEN AS LARGELY A, UH, SOFT TO THE IDEA OF SECURITY.
I CITE THE RECENT EXAMPLE OF STEVE JILL'S BREAKIN, WHICH WAS UNDER A PURVIEW OF THE SECURITY, UH, AGENCY THAT WAS DOING THAT.
I'VE NOT SEEN ANY REPORTS ABOUT IT HAPPEN ON THEIR WATCH.
AND THE, UH, REASONS FOR THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO RESPOND, BUT GIVEN THE TRAJECTORIES IN TERMS OF WHAT CRIME IS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND, AND OVERALL IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THAT, AND WE HAVE A SECURITY SYSTEM THAT'S NOT EFFECTIVE FOR THAT.
AND THEN IT JUST PUSHES INTO THE COMMUNITY IN FURTHER AWAY.
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YOUR COSTS ARE NOT FIXED.I SHOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ALL LOOK COLLECTIVELY AT THE DEEPER IMPACTS OF YOUR SPENDING FIRST, BEFORE YOU LOOK AT INCREASING REVENUES, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUSH THOSE CARS FROM SECOND STREET.
THERE ARE ALREADY FIVE PERMANENT SPACES FROM WHICH FOUR PARKLETS.
THOSE ARE FIVE CARS NOW CIRCULATING IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF THERE'S A REASON FOR PEOPLE NOT TO STAY THERE AND TO PARK ON UNITY STREETS AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS, THAT DOES AFFECT US DEEPLY.
ESTELLA TAKING DOOR, A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EXTENDING THE METER HOURS, YOU DON'T MEAN THROUGH TWO TO THREE HOURS.
YOU MEAN EXTENDING BEFORE 10:00 AM AND AFTER FIVE, IS THAT AFTER SEVEN? IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
UM, THIS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND THERE WAS STRONG PUSHBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY TO NOT EXTEND THE METER HOURS.
IT PUTS AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS THAT RELY ON THE METERS DURING STREET SWEEPING DAYS.
SO TO BRING THIS UP AND GET PUSHBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT, AND TO HAVE IT ANNOUNCED IN SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO EXTEND METER HOURS, I FIND THIS TO BE RATHER DISINGENUOUS.
AND, UH, I ASK YOU, UH, TO NOT BE DISINGENUOUS.
THE COMMUNITY RESPONDED, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD ACCEPT THAT.
OH, UM, PROBABLY GONNA A BREAK WITH EVERYBODY HERE.
UM, SIMPLE MATH, I SEE A DEFICIT.
AND I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO LIKES TO OPERATE WITH DEFICITS CONSECUTIVELY, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN.
I ALSO BELIEVE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HAVING AN EMERGENCY FUND IS ALL ABOUT.
'CAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THINGS DO HAPPEN, RIGHT? AND SO I BELIEVE IN HAVING AN EMERGENCY FUND, I THINK THE PARKING, UH, INCREASE IS INCREMENTAL ENOUGH.
AND I, I'M EVEN CONCERNED THAT THE SECURITY, UH, BUDGET IS PROBABLY NOT EVEN HIGH ENOUGH.
AND SO IF YOU DON'T INCREASE BY THAT 25 CENTS AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN A DEFICIT.
SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE IT SHOULD BE RAISED.
UM, IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, NOT A PUNCH IN YOUR GUT OR ANYTHING.
IT'S, AND AGAIN, IT'S SPREAD OUT BY THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, COME AND EXPECT AND THREE HOURS AND EXPECT, YOU KNOW, AS A, GIVE THEM AN EXTRA THREE HOURS.
YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE AT A RESTAURANT, YOU SPEND AT LEAST A COUPLE HOURS AT LEAST, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA WANNA WALK AROUND THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M FORTUNATE THAT I CAN WALK EVERYWHERE SO I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, SOMEHOW I MANAGED TO HAVE FRIENDS PARK WHERE THEY CAN, OR MAYBE IT'S MY STREET OR WHATEVER.
UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE 25 CENTS AN HOUR AND IT'S GIVING YOU THREE HOURS TO STAY AT THE METER SO THAT YOU CAN ENJOY THE SHORE.
I WOULD LIKE MORE UNIFICATION MYSELF.
UM, KIND OF SAD LOOKING SOMETIMES.
AND IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF STORES AT FRONT THAT ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OCCUPIED.
I MEAN, I REALIZE THAT IN INFLATIONARY TIMES, IT, IT, IT, THIS IS THIS, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT RAISING IT BY THE INFLATION RATE.
SO I, I THINK LITTLE BY LITTLE, I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN, CAN STOMACH THAT.
I MEAN, WE DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO, AND AGAIN, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE EMERGENCY FUND HAVING SOME SORT OF SURPLUS SO THAT ANYTHING THAT'S UNEXPECTED CAN BE DEALT WITH.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I DIDN'T SEE HERE, I MEAN, I SEE THE CLEANING SERVICES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAS GONE UP.
WE, I GUESS WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT WE WERE VERY LUCKY FOR THE LONGEST TIME TO HAVE A CONSERVATION CORPSE AT A MUCH DISCOUNTED RATE.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT CAN'T, THAT CAN'T CONTINUE.
SO IF WE WANT CLEAN STREETS AND CLEAN SIDEWALKS, AND WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTA GET PAID FOR, UH, NOBODY WORKS FOR FREE.
UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER CASTRO FOR BRINGING UP ISSUES, SECURITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN BY BOTH VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE SIDEWALK.
YOU CANNOT WALK SAFELY WITHOUT BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BICYCLES, SCOOTERS, QUIET, COMING UP BEHIND YOU, SCARING YOU.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC RUN THROUGH.
AND THE SECURITY RESEARCH SERVICE WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS RECOGNIZE CSI WAS NOT CHOSEN THROUGH A, UH, BIDDING PROCESS.
THEY WERE JUST APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
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I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE CONTRACTING THAT.BUT THE PERCEPTION MANY OF US HAVE IS THAT THEY, WE SEE THEM OCCASIONALLY STANDING BY THE BICYCLES.
THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING THE STREET, THEY'RE NOT INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE NOT INTERACTING WITH THE STORE.
AND THERE'S, BY A WALKING BASIS, THEY'RE LIKE HANGING ONTO THEIR BIKES, USUALLY HIDING OUT ON THE ALLEY.
UH, SO I HONESTLY THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PROPER BIDDING PROCESS, DECIDE HOW YOU WANT THE SECURITY TO WORK, ARE THEY TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC? ARE THEY TO BE AVAILABLE SO THE PUBLIC CAN ASK FOR HELP OR DIRECTION, WHICH PERSONALLY I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK THOSE KIND OF BASIC THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
ONE IS RYAN, I, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THIS IN THAT REPORT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT AS TO WHEN AND HOW MUCH THE LAST THREE METER INCREASES WERE.
UM, AND I WANNA THROW OUT THAT METER INCREASE.
THE METER COST INCREASE ABSOLUTELY IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THE HIGHER RATES GO, THE MORE VISITORS WILL NOT WANT TO PAY.
SO THEY'LL PARK AROUND RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT IS INTERESTING IS, YEAH, THE, THE SIGN BUDGET IS NOT ON THE BUDGET SHEET.
SO, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CURRENT COST IS.
LAST I'D HEARD IT WAS OVER A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, SO THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT AS WELL.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE? HEATHER KERN, I'M NOT SURE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, THAT YOU HAVE, UH, RYAN, WHOEVER EVER
AND WHEN I CAME ONTO THIS ROLE, WE HAD A WALKING BEAT, PATROL WITH LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE IS HOPE I HANG ON TO HOPE THAT POLICE WILL GET FULLY STAFFED AT SOME POINT, AND THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD NOT HAVE TO APPROVE A SPEND ON SECURITY AT ALL.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, ITEM LAST, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ON ANY ITEM.
UM, SO, UH, I KNOW THE COMMISSIONS HAVE THE CHOICE OF HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS AFTER MOTIONS.
SO THE ORDER BEING, UM, AN ITEM IS BROUGHT UP.
UM, THE MOTIONS HAPPEN, AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT HAPPENS BEFORE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS HAPPEN, OR COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN OPTION BY, BY THAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS, UM, ACT THAT WAY.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS OR WHOEVER'S HERE, THE, THE VISITORS, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN THEN ADDRESS THEM IN THEIR DISCUSSION, WHICH I FIND REALLY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE SOMETIMES, MANY TIMES WHEN I MAKE A COMMENT HERE, I FEEL LIKE IT JUST GOES OFF INTO THE ETHER.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE REALLY TAKING IT IN.
'CAUSE IT'S NEVER, IT'S NEVER ADDRESSED IN ANY WAY.
AND, UM, IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT KIND OF JUST GOES OFF.
SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT TOO AS, AS AN OPTION FOR THE FUTURE IF YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, BEFORE I ADJOURN, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, WE CONDUCT, ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT, UH, MODALITY FOR THESE MEETINGS.
UH, UH, LET'S LOOK AT, UH, OPTIONS.
IF, IF, IF WE INSERT PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, UH, AS LONG AS THE PUBLIC HAS HEARD, THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT WE CAN REACT ON IT.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO, UH, BE HEARD IN THE CITY AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UH, YOU CAN WRITE LETTERS TO, YOU CAN WRITE LETTERS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, YOU CAN REQUEST MEETINGS WITH CITY OFFICIALS.
NOBODY IS, UH, ABOVE THE POINT OF MEETING WITH, UH, CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS AND GETTING INPUT.
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BUT I'M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.UH, BUT I LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THAT IS BROUGHT TO ME AND I BRING MOST ALL OF IT TO THIS COMMISSION IS RELATIVE AND RELEVANT RATHER TO THIS COMMISSION.
AND, UM, I JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCILWOMAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SHE'S THERE FOR.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, I THINK WE WERE ADJOURNED AT, UH, 10 50.