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THIS IS THE MAR ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING.COULD YOU PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? MR. LELAND, COMMISSION CHAIR MURRAY? HERE.
COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR MCRIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, TWO ITEMS ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING ON MAY 2ND.
I, WHO DO WE APPROVE? APPROVE.
UM, ITEM TWO, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE FUTURE, UH, MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEM.
I, I MOVE THAT WE DO THAT SECOND AND SECOND, AND LET'S PROCEED WITH THAT.
I'LL HAND IT OVER TO, UH, BRIAN PLANT.
TAKE IT THROUGH THE, UH, THE AGENDA.
UH, NUMBER ONE, IT'S GONNA BE THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ANY, ANY COMMENTS, INPUT ON THAT ONE? NO, I HAVEN'T AGREE WITH THAT, NO.
UM, ON NUMBER TWO, UH, IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS RECEIVED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION INTO THE RECORD, CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CONSIDER THE APPEAL FROM ERIC TOSO AND DENY THAT APPEAL AND UPHOLD GREEN BUREAU'S DECISION TO TERMINATE HIS PERMIT FOR VIOLATION OF LONG BEACH REMAINDER RULES, REGULATIONS EFFECTIVE JUNE 15TH, 2025.
UM, SO WE WILL BE BRINGING AN APPEAL TO, UH, TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, WE HAVE HAD, OH, ACTUALLY, YEAH.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FOLLOWED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AS IT RELATES TO CANCELLATION.
UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, LOOK, LOOK ANY DEEPER INTO IT, BUT JUST THAT, IS THERE A PARTICULAR VIOLATION THAT'S MORE FOCUSED? UH, AM I ABLE TO, WHAT IS THE VIOLATION? UH, WELL, IT'S, IT'S VESSELS PLACE OF A BOAT, AND THEN ALSO, UH, VEHICLE STORAGE.
SO BOTH, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE CAN'T GET TOO MUCH INTO THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO YOU WILL GET, UH, THE, THE DETAILS IN YOUR PACKET MM-HMM
UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE, UH, MR. TOSO THE SAME OPPORTUNITY THAT, UH, AND HE, HAS HE SUBMITTED ANYTHING THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT PACKET? UH, NO.
AND DOES HE KNOW HE HAS THAT OPTION? YES.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT, THAT SHOWS THE VIOLATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT EITHER AVAILABLE THAT DAY? CORRECT.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, ANYONE THAT'S GONNA TESTIFY FROM OUR MARINE PATROL, UH, WE'LL HAVE MARINE, MARINE PATROL STAFF THERE.
UH, THE, THEY DON'T TEND TO TESTIFY, UH, FOR THESE, BECAUSE THE DOCUMENTATION IS THEIR TESTIMONY CONFIRMING THAT IT'S VALID YEAH.
OR THAT THAT'S THEIR PRACTICES.
BUT BRIAN WILL BE THE, THE CITY'S LEAD.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE, I I, I LOVE SEEING THE OFFICERS SHOW UP AND, AND TELL US, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ONE OFFICER THAT'S DONE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BASICALLY ONE OFFICER.
AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY, DID THEY HAVE A GRUDGE OR DID THEY JUST FOLLOW HIM? AND IT WAS A CONSTANT, WE KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT GO ON IN THIS, THIS MARINA ALL THE TIME.
UM, I CALL IT JUST LIKE FISHING
UM, AND IT'S, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE OR WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF HE'S GIVEN THE STATEMENTS, I'LL JUST STATE THIS FOR, FOR, FOR YOU, WHEN YOU COME IN, AS LONG AS EVERYTHING'S DOCUMENTED PROPERLY, WE'VE ALWAYS YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT THING AS LONG AS EVERYTHING'S BEEN DOCUMENTED AND HE KNOWS.
SO, WELL, THIS IS EXCITING THAT IT'S THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT BRIAN GETS IN HIS ROLE.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR MANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO LET'S MAKE SURE TO, UM, TO EDUCATE DURING THAT PROCESS SAYS, THIS IS WHY, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WHAT WAS DONE.
YOU KNOW, TO BE REALLY POINT SPECIFIC, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD OUR HEARTS CRUSHED, YOU KNOW, ON A FEW OF THEM.
I MEAN, LITERALLY, I, IT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST ONES WHEN WE HAD THE EL ELDERLY GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST, YEAH.
UH, AND THAT'S THE REASON OUR AGENDA IS LIGHT, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE THESE LIGHTLY MM-HMM
UM, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THESE AND GIVE IT THE ATTENTION THAT IT DESERVES.
UM, MR. TOSO HAS THE RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, SPEAK HIS CASE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HE HAS ALL THE TIME TO DO THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND TO REFUTE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE CITY BRINGS FORWARD.
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WHY WHEN WE DO DO APPEAL HEARINGS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE PRIORITY ON THE AGENDA.THAT'S OUR DISCUSSION ON THAT.
ANY COMMENT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON THAT? WELL, I, I JUST, I WAS SORT OF, I REMEMBER BEING AT ONE.
I I WAS JUST, IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION.
IS IT, IS THERE EVER POSSIBLY A, A COMPROMISE REACHED AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING? NOT IN THE PROCESS.
UH, DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN? USUALLY, USUALLY AT THE POINT WHEN WE'RE BRINGING A CANCELLATION OR A CANCELLATION THAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO THE ADVISORY COMMISSION, IT'S GONE PAST THE POINT OF COMPROMISE.
OUR JOB IS TO KEEP PEOPLE IN SLIPS.
WE DO NOT WANT TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM SLIPS MM-HMM
AND SO WE GIVE INDIVIDUALS EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO REMAIN IN THEIR SLIP VIA JUST COMMUNICATION.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIALS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THEY CAN CATCH UP ON PAYMENTS.
UH, SO WHEN WE, WHEN A APPEAL COMES TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, MORE OFTEN THAN NONE, UH, WE HAVE EXHAUSTED IT EVERY PATHWAY TO BRING THAT INDIVIDUAL BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
AND I'VE ALSO SEEN FROM EXPERIENCE THAT WE'LL MAKE A HARD AND FAST THAT THEY'VE GOTTA BE OUT IN 24 HOURS AS COMMISSIONERS, AND THEN AFTERWARD THE MARINE BUREAU WILL GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF FLEX IF THERE'S A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OR SOMETHING'S HAPPENING.
BUT THAT, THAT EMPOWERS THEM TO KNOW, OKAY, NOW, NOW WE'RE, WE'RE HELPING OUT, EVEN THOUGH THE COMMISSION HAS DECIDED 24 HOURS WHEN YOU'RE OUT.
AND PRACTICALITY, I THINK IT'S A VERY FAIR SYSTEM IN THESE CASES IS WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY COMMUNICATING WITH THE APPELLATE TO SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL.
IF YOU DO WIN YOUR APPEAL, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE RESCIND YOUR CANCELLATION AND YOU STAY IN YOUR SLIP.
HOWEVER, FROM THE START OF THE APPEAL PROCESS, WE LET THE INDIVIDUAL KNOW WE SAY IS, HEY, YOUR APPEAL DATE'S GOING TO BE THIS.
BASED ON THAT YOU WILL BE, HAVE TO BE OUT ON THE ARENA.
SO, MR. TOSO, IF HIS APPEAL IS, OR HIS TERMINATION CANCELLATION IS UPHELD FB OUT THE MARINE ON JUNE 15TH, BUT WE'VE TOLD HIM THAT FROM THE MOMENT THE APPEAL PROCESS STARTS, HOW LONG DOES THAT USUALLY TAKE? UH, WHAT'S THAT? THE APPEAL PROCESS? IT CAN TAKE A MONTH, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE, OR DEPENDING ON DISCOVERY, CAN TAKE A COUPLE, SEVERAL MONTHS.
BUT, UH, HE, UH, MR. DOSO KNOWS, HE'S BEEN ADVISED, HE'S BEEN PROVIDED, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
THEN THERE ARE, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE.
UH, AND THEN HE, DOES HE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED BY LEGAL COUNSEL? I KNOW WE DID HAVE THE ONE.
IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY AT THEIR DISCRETION.
IF, IF, I'LL SAY THIS, IF LEGAL COUNSEL COMES IN, I BELIEVE, AND I HAVEN'T READ WHEN I FIRST READ ALL THE BYLAWS OF THE COMMISSIONER, IF LEGAL COUNSEL IS HERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE CITY LEGAL COUNSEL HERE TOO.
SO THAT, THAT'S A MUST IF HE BRINGS IN LEGAL COUNSEL, UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY COUNSEL HERE.
UH, USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE GET, UH, COUNSEL WE CALL.
BUT WE WILL, WE WILL REACH OUT ONCE BEFORE WE HAD CALLED DURING A BREAK.
AND WE GOT THE, WELL, AND WE HAVE THE, THE TWO THAT ALSO ARE THE OLYMPICS ASSIGNED.
UH, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AWARE, UH, TODAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON AGENDA ITEM TWO? NO, I'M GOOD MA'AM.
UH, NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE SUBMISSION TO APPROVE A FEE WAIVER IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 REFUSE OF DOCK SPACE IN ALAMEDA BAY MARINA FOR VISITING PARTICIPATING VESSELS DURING THE 2025 ULMAN SAILS LONG BEACH RACE WEEK, UH, FOR THE PERIOD OF JUNE 19TH TO JUNE 22ND.
UM, LIKE WITH THAT, LIKE LAST YEAR, I'LL WORK WITH, UH, THE ORGANIZERS TO TRY TO GET A, A SPREAD OF WHERE THESE BOATS ARE COMING FROM, JUST SO WE WE UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT THE, WHAT THE PULL IS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IMPACT FROM BRINGING THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN.
AND SINCE THEY USE THE SHORE BOATS TO SHUTTLE BETWEEN THE CLUBS, THAT'S KIND OF FUN TOO.
UM, TO EVEN RIDE ON THE SHORE BOATS AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE TAKING SAILORS BACK OVER HERE.
OR, OR BACK OVER TO UNTIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER BASINS.
UH, SO I'VE JUST HUNG OUT ON THE SHORE BOAT SOMETIME AND
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UH, WHICH KIND OF BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER QUESTION THAT, UM, MR. BLAIR ASKED ME ABOUT IS IF HE'S GONE FOR THE WEEKEND THAT SLIPS IT, I, DOES THE MARINE BUREAU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBLET THAT? IF HE'S TOLD HE'S GONE? CAN HE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN THAT SLIP? WHAT'S THE RULE ON THAT? THEY, OR DO YOU WANNA ANSWER OR THEY CAN, YEAH.
SO WE, THE WAY THAT OUR POLICY IS TRYING, STOP ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT LIKE WE'RE, WE DON'T LIKE GO AFTER, UH, GETTING MORE RENT FOR THAT SLIP, UH, AND TRYING TO DOUBLE DIP INTO THAT SLIP SO WE DON'T SUBLET, WE'RE NOT CATALINA WHILE HE'S OUT.
UM, IF HE WANTED TO PUT A SUBLET IN THAT WE COULD, BUT IT'S, WE NEED ALL THE, THE SUBLEASE PAPERWORK TO BRING THAT BOAT IN.
UM, AND IT'S, AND IT'S FOR A LONGER TERM, BUT WE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, LIKE, WITH THE STAFFING THAT'S REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE BOATS ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, OR SAFE, EVERYTHING THAT'S ON IT.
AND, AND DONE CORRECTLY, THAT TAKES SOME STAFF TIME.
SO WE'RE NOT DOING LIKE SINGLE DAY OR A COUPLE DAY OR EVEN A WEEK.
SO IF, IF, IF MR. BLAIR TAKES HIS BOAT TO CATALINA FOR THE WEEKEND AND HE WANTS TO LET HIS SON-IN-LAW USE HIS SLIP, HE CAN'T BECAUSE THAT'S A WEEKEND.
OUR SUBLETS ARE A, ARE A LONGER, LONGER TERM.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM STAY? IT'S A, IT'S A MONTH.
BECAUSE WE, WE DO HAVE THAT BOAT COME IN, THERE'S PAPERWORK TO BE DONE.
WE INSPECT THE VISITING VESSEL, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT COMPLIES WITH LIKE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ASKING OUR PERMITS TO COMPLY WITH.
AND WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM OF A SUBLET? UH, 6, 6 1 YEAR.
UM, ONE THING ABOUT IT IS WE COULD LOOK AT THAT'S SCHEDULE FOR, FOR WEEK ENDING IF, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT.
BUT I THINK WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHERE YOU'RE HAVING THAT, IF A LOT OF PEOPLE START DOING IT, YOU'RE HAVING A LOT OF COME AND GO.
THAT CAN CREATE SAFETY ISSUES.
WELL, WE ALREADY BROUGHT IT UP WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE OLYMPICS.
AND PEOPLE WANNA RUN OUT THE SLIPS AND TAKE THEIR BOATS OUT AND BRING THEIR SLIPS IN.
UM, WELL THAT, THAT'LL TOUGH SECURITY.
I MEAN, IT'S, THAT'LL BE PIRATE BOATS THAT COME IN AND, AND USE HIS SLIP AND THE SIDE.
THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE, UM, A SECURITY DECISION SPECIFICALLY OVER BY THE MARINE STADIUM VENUE.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR SLIP COMMITTEES ARE WITHIN BASIN THREE, BASIN FOUR ARE WITHIN THE ACTUAL VENUE YES.
SO, UM, SECURITY CLEARANCE WILL BE, AND I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE OVERSEEN BY HOMELAND.
OH, I, I, I, SO SECURITY CLEARANCE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO AND WORK WITH.
I WAS ON A RIDE WITH NAVY, UM, THE NIGHTTIME RIDE.
SO, UM, AND I GOT TO GO OUT DURING FLEET WEEK AND WE CAME THROUGH AND THE GUY WAS TELLING ME ALL THIS.
HE SAYS, ALL THIS MAY HAVE TO BE CLEARED, AND I HAD THIS ONE CLEARED THIS RIGHT.
IN THE, THIS IS RIGHT IN THE VENUE.
AND WE WILL HAVE, I MEAN, THERE'S SECURITY NOT JUST FROM THE US YEAH.
THERE'S SECURITY FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT COME AND IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING.
I'D HAVE TO SAY, LET'S WAIT TO SEE FROM, RIGHT.
THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK TO A LINE, TALKING TO A LINE GUY, JUST LOOKING AT RIGHT LINE.
LINE AND WE'RE, WE NEED TO WAIT TO SEE HOW LA 28 WANTS TO HANDLE IT AND HOW IT GOES FROM THERE.
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT FROM LA 28 THAT PER PERMITS IN PLACE WILL NOT HAVE TO MOVE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S 2025, NOT 2028.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT THREE ODD YEARS AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
BUT YEAH, SECURITY CLEARANCE VIA HOMELAND WILL PLAY A, A FACTOR.
YOU BRINGING THAT UP AND, AND NOT ON THIS MADAM CHAIR, BUT BRINGING THAT UP AND LOOKING AT THE SECURITY SIDE OF IT, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS MADE AWARE.
THEY ALREADY HAVE A TEAM FROM LONG BEACH AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WORKING ON IT.
IT'D BE NICE TO AT LEAST GIVE SOME INSIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS GOING ON OUT THERE THAT
UH, AND I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH, YOU THINK I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH A QUARTER OF MY CARDS? NO, IT'S JUST BEING A, I GUESS BEING KNOWLEDGEABLE OF IT.
WELL, WE CAN'T REALLY SAY ANYTHING AT THE COMMISSION MEETING BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM.
BUT BOY, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE SAYING, HOW AM I GONNA GET HOME? I DON'T KNOW.
AND I SAYS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK WITH, THAT'S GONNA COME OUT AT A LATER TIME.
AND I SAID, WE'VE BEEN TOLD, I SAID,
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WHO HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD BY? AND IT'S ALWAYS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S SOMEBODY OVER HERE, MAYBE NOT EVEN WITH THE CITY.OH, THEY'RE GONNA WALK DOWN THE STREETS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO IN AND OUT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE AWAY FROM WE'RE I UNDERSTAND.
BUT ALL BUT I DID WANNA BRING UP ONE MORE ON THE, UM, ON THE TEMPORARY.
YOU WANNA ANSWER HIS AGAIN? YEAH.
LET ME, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK.
SO YEAH, SECURITY AND ACCESS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR FOCUS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO IT'S GONNA BE A FOCUS OF LA 28 OF THE CITY OF, OF SECURITY.
AND, BUT HERE'S THE THING IS SECURITY IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE GUARDED.
AND IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF, OF DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE SECURITY PLAN OF THE LA 28 OLYMPICS UNTIL THE LA 28 OLYMPICS.
THERE'S NO, AND I, I COME BACK AND MADAM CHAIR, IT WASN'T GOING OFF IT, IT WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE FEE WAIVERS WE HAVE NOW.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY FEE WAIVERS COMING IN 2028.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY MORE RACING HERE.
THEY SHUT THE PLACE DOWN, UH, JUST LIKE THEY SHUT PARIS DOWN, JUST LIKE WE SHUT OTHER VENUES DOWN, IT GETS SHUT DOWN.
AND IT'S LIKE HAVING OTHER BOATS COME IN AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE DOING A RACE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING, ALL BETS ARE OFF.
SO, AND, AND WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY GREAT.
WITH OUR, OUR, OUR PARTNERS, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN MARINE STADIUM.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT SUMMER 2028, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME SEA WEAVERS WE GET EVERY YEAR.
AND SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I LOOKING AT.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF COURSE ON, UH, AND THEN I WAS GONNA BRING FORTH, UM, FORMER MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSIONER WHO HAS A PARK NAMED AFTER HIM, MOSSY KENT.
UM, THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON HE'S FORMED THE MARINA YACHT CLUB WAS, SO WE'D HAVE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LEAVE THEIR SLIPS AND OTHER PEOPLE WOULD COME IN.
UM, AND, AND MAYBE JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT ON A BACK BURNER AS A POTENTIAL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE, IF, IF WE CAN ALLOW THOSE WEEKEND SWAPS, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.
I THINK THEY DO THAT INFORMALLY BASED UPON EMAIL BLASTS THAT COME FROM SEAL BEACH CHALK CLUB.
THERE'S THE SLIP THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE NO, THEY'RE THEIR MEMBER SLIPS.
I THINK THEY SHARE WITH MEMBERS FROM OTHER CLUBS.
I THINK THEY INFORMALLY DO IT.
BUT THEY, THEY COMMUNICATE WITH US ON THOSE RECIPROCALS.
NOW IF THEY'RE DOING STUFF MORE FREQUENTLY WITH MORE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, I, I THINK IT'S HAPPENING.
SO WE, LET'S BE READY TO RESPOND TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE HAVE A MULTIPLE YACHT CLUBS YEAH.
YOU CAN TAKE MY PLACE WHILE I'M GONE.
WHO HAS TO INFORM YOU? I MEAN, DO WE REALLY HAVE BOTH OUT CHECKING? WELL, WELL YOU ARE AND IT, IT'S ALL GOOD UNTIL SOMEBODY'S GOT YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE JOB OF OUR, OUR MARINE AGENT TWOS, THEIR JOB IS TO BE OUT IN THE MARINAS WALKING THE DOCKS AND KNOWING WHAT BOATS AND KNOWING THEIR LENGTH AND KNOWING WHAT HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND EXACTLY.
SO
YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS YOU MIGHT NOT GET CAUGHT THAT FIRST TIME, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET YOU, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION.
IT'S MORE OF, HEY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS ISSUE.
UH, PLEASE MAKE, AH, THERE'S A NEW BOAT THERE.
SO WE REACH OUT TO THE PERMITEE AND, AND ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN I WANNA CLOSE THE LOOP ON, WE DO THESE FEW WHOEVERS TO THEN GET A, UM, REQUESTING THEM AT THE END.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT THOSE PARTICIPATING, UM, VESSELS SO THAT WE CAN PUT THAT IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A BOAT COME FROM MEXICO FOR RACE WEEK.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE SOME THAT COME FROM QUITE A DISTANCE.
MOVE THE, WE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE UM, NO MA'AM.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO ENDORSE SUBMISSION TO APPROVE.
APPROVE A FEE WAIVER FOR THE SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,160 FOR THE USE OF 108 PARKING SPACES IN ALAMEDA BAY MARINA FOR THE CHARITY REGATTAS SWAP MEET ON JULY 12TH.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE FUNDRAISER THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, IN BENEFIT OF THE CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.
MILLER CHILDREN HOSPITAL, OR, I BELIEVE SO.
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IT OKAY.WHAT'S SWAP MEET MEAN CHARITY, REGATA SWAP MEAT.
UH, AND THEY DO, UM, THEY DO A REAKFAST, SO IT REALLY A SWAP MEAT BREAKFAST AND YOU CAN RINSE SPACE AND YOU CAN SELL YOUR OLD JUNK.
OR YOU CAN DONATE IT FOR THEM TO SELL YOUR OLD MARINE STUFF.
OH, IT'S, IT IS MORE FUN THAN THE AUCTION ON THE 24TH.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU'VE GOT A GOOD MIX OF THINGS.
UM, THE, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON WITH THAT WHOLE CHARITY REGATTA HAVE LOST A LOT OF THEIR OOMPH THAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD.
UM, BUT SEAL BEACH HAS REALLY KEPT IT GOING.
AND THEN THEY'VE ENGAGED OTHER YACHT CLUBS AND REALLY MADE IT AN ALL DAY ACTIVITY.
AND THERE'S SOME VENDORS THERE THAT AREN'T MARINE ORIENTED, BUT HEY, THE MONEY'S STILL GOING.
AND, AND THEY, THEY'RE COMPLETELY, THEY USE ALL 108 LOTS.
AND THEY, THEY HAVE A WAIT LIST.
I'LL, I'LL BUY YOU A PANCAKE IF YOU DECIDE I'M THERE WITH YOU.
AND IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.
SO THAT'S FOR US, THIS IS A, THIS IS A NON STAR.
YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THAT, THEY OFFER A TOUR.
AND I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT, UM, WANTS YOU TO BE A PART OF THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING TO SEE, UM, WHAT THAT MONEY IS ALL BENEFITING AND HOW INCREDIBLE THAT IS.
AND THEY CALL IT CHILDREN'S, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SERVING PEOPLE.
THAT ARE SENIORS AND THEIR YEAH.
AND THEN IT'S NOT ONLY THE ONE FACILITY AND SOME OF OUR HOUSING DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE CLINICS WITHIN THAT HOUSING.
SO, 'CAUSE TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG BARRIER SURE.
IN ORDER TO RECEIVE MEDICAL CARE.
IN THE SAME BUILDING WHERE YOU LIVE IS PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY.
SO FOR US TO SUPPORT THAT, I THINK IS THE RIGHT THING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, UM, COMMISSIONERS ON THAT OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC OKAY.
TO FIND YOUR SCOOTER LIKE BO HAS DOWN THERE.
HEY, THANK YOU GUYS FOR GOING TOO.
AND YOU HAD A LOT OF VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS.
UH, SO, UH, UM, AND THEN WHAT IS THAT ON? I MISSED, THEY WENT UP TO, UH, THE, THE CALIFORNIA MARINE, CALIFORNIA BUDDYING VOTING CONGRESS, VOTING CONGRESS UP IN SACRAMENTO.
BUT, UH, YEAH, THEY, UH, UH, I HAD NO IDEA.
HE GAVE ME THE BACKGROUND ON YOU.
WE HEARD THE BACKGROUND ON YOU.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS JOB IN MANY OTHER, UH, MANY OTHER, UH, UH, MARINAS.
AND HE WAS, UH, YEAH, YOU WERE, YOU WERE.
WELL IT WAS WHEN FORMER CHAIRMAN, UM, COLIN CAME BACK FROM THE INTERVIEW AND TALKED ABOUT, UM, GEE, THE, THE NUMBER ONE RUNNER UP FOR THE POSITION IS IT'S GOTTA BE ON OUR RADAR.
SO, WELL, HE HAS SUCH A GREAT BACKGROUND.
THIS GUY NEEDS TO BE A PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION FROM THIS SHY LITTLE KID THAT CAME IN THE FIRST MEETING TO LOOK AT YOU.
ITS LIKE YOU LOOK AT TODD, I'VE GOT THIS
WELL, WE'VE KIND OF INTEGRATED INTO, NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR MANAGER'S REPORT, NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SACRAMENTO VISIT AND YEAH.
SO FOR MANAGER REPORTS, UM, WE WILL HAVE, UH, A TEAM MEMBER COME FORWARD AGAIN THIS MONTH FROM EITHER BEACH MAINTENANCE OR MARINE MAINTENANCE FOR YOUR GUYS', UH, RECOGNI RECOGNITION.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE WANNA KEEP THAT COMING FORWARD AND WE'RE GONNA ROTATE BETWEEN THE, THE THREE GROUPS.
UM, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE AND, AND, AND SOME OF OUR FOLKS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE MORE RELAXED THAT I'VE NOTICED MORE OF OUR VEHICLES PARKED CATTY WAMPUS AND ILLEGALLY.
THEY LIKE TO SHARE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ON BREAKS.
I CALLED YOU AND I JUST WENT, AND I DON'T GO UP TO 'EM AND TALK, BUT WHEN THEY'RE JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, FEET UP AND YOU'VE GOT A CAR HERE, A CAR HERE, SO THEY'RE TALKING BETWEEN THE WINDOWS AND IF IT LASTS LONGER THAN AN HOUR, THAT'S THE PATROL SIDE.
I'M TALKING THE MAINTENANCE SIDE.
WHEN THEY, THEY PARK THE DIAGONALLY AND, AND USE UP THREE SPOTS.
IN THE PARKING, IN THE, THE BASINS.
AND, UM, AND IT, IT LEAVES A POOR PERCEPTION.
UM, AND, AND, AND THEN IF AN INCIDENT WOULD OCCUR, IT'S GONNA BE US THAT WE WERE PARKED WRONG.
WILL WE HAVE BOTH, UH, DURING THE MANAGEMENT REPORTS, WILL WE HAVE BOTH THE FIRE AND POLICE THERE? YES.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME, SOME GOOD NEWS TO REPORT ABOUT, UM, UNAUTHORIZED MOORING AND
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OH, GOOD ENFORCEMENT THEREOF.SO, UH, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL HAVE BOTH MARINE SAFETY AND MARINE PATROL THERE TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THAT.
WE, WE HAVE SPOKEN AND THE CHAIRWOMAN HAVE BROUGHT UP NUMEROUS TIMES ABOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF SHEATH THAT SAYS HOW MANY TICKETS WE'VE GIVEN OUT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT AT THIS MEETING.
REALLY LIKE THEM TO, TO PUT IT DOWN, I WOULD REALLY WANT DOCUMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT.
UH, WE ARE, WE, THEY PROVIDE ME THAT, THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE PUT IT INTO THE, THE, UH, MARINE TO READER.
I KNOW, BUT IT'D JUST BE NICE.
BUT WE REALLY WANNA FEATURE SOME OF THAT TO SHOW WE ARE ENFORCING.
UM, AND WE'VE HAD THREE INCIDENCES WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UM, THE ONE WITH HOMELAND SECURITY, WITH THE 12, UM, ALIENS ON THE BOATS.
AND, UH, THEN THE INCIDENT THAT STARTED OVER AT SHORELINE.
AND THAT THE ONE PERSON THEN CAME OVER HERE TO DALLAS POINT, AND THEN MOST RECENTLY THE, UM, THE DEATH AND HEART ATTACK AT THE LONG DOCK.
I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE A LARGE OH, I KNOW.
NO, BUT IT JUST, BUT WE KNOW ABOUT IT AND WE KNOW ABOUT IT 'CAUSE IT IS SILLY.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING INVOLVED IN.
BUT WHEN YOU GET THE PHONE CALLS AND I JUST WANT, I DON'T KNOW, AND THEN YOU CALL OTHER PEOPLE, IT'D JUST BE NICE TO KNOW.
UM, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE CAN SIT THERE FAR AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD THIS BOOM BOOM.
AND YES, PEOPLE, PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW.
WELL, WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING THAT A DU FOR BRUCE? OH, I'M PUTTING A 12 FAMILY VIETNAMESE, UH, UH, GROUP BEHIND MY HOUSE.
AND THE LADY WAS NUTS FOR, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A YEAR WHEN SHE CAME OVER THE NEXT TIME.
AND I SAYS, NO, IT'S MY OFFICE AND STUFF.
BUT YOU SAID THERE WAS 12 PEOPLE MOVING IN.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN INFORM YOU ABOUT, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN LET US KNOW.
WHEN HOMELAND SECURITY IS PUTTING IT ON TWITTER, BUT WE DON'T OVERSEE HOMELAND SECURITY.
THE CITY DOESN'T OVERSEE HOMELAND SECURITY.
THEY KIND OF COME IN AND DO THEIR, THEIR, BUT OUR MARINE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE ARE AWARE, THEY'RE AWARE THAT THEY ARE ACTIVE IN OUR FOOTPRINT, BUT, BUT THEY DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT IT'S NOT LIKE HOMELAND SECURITY CALLS MARINE PATROL OR LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
NO, IT'S KINDA LIKE LA OLYMPICS.
I MEAN, THEY COME IN, THEY DO IT, AND THEN AS THEY'RE DOING IT, OUR AGENCIES COME INTO OKAY.
JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOING ACCORDINGLY WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE.
UH, SO IT, IT, IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME ON THE, THE RECENT INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AT SHORELINE WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE OF THE BOAT THAT HAD BEEN, UM, USED TO, TO FLEE THE SCENE.
IT WAS A BOAT I HAD A BUNCH OF PICTURES OF, BECAUSE I HAD SAT AT, UM, A BYC ON MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, UM, MAKING CRAZY METRICS ON HOW MANY BOATS HAD FENDERS DOWN
SO I HAD, YOU KNOW, I HAD MAYBE 400 PHOTOS THAT I'D TAKEN THAT DAY.
AND, UM, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE THOSE DERELICT VESSELS THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH MM-HMM
AND THEN SOME, UM, I WOULDN'T DOUBT ARE INVOLVED IN MINOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, UM, THAT ARE TRAVELING BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS.
AND, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT MORE OF THAT GOING ON THAN WE REALIZE.
AND IT WAS ONLY THAT I PLAYING THIS GAME, SITTING THERE, THAT I, IT DAWNED ON ME THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON HERE.
JUST KNOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR MARINE PATROL, OUR MARINE SAFETY, ARE VERY, VERY AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING IN OUR MARINAS.
AND THEY ADDRESS IT TO THE FULL EXTENT THEY CAN WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE LAW.
UM, UH, BUT I, I THINK WE'VE GOT MORE AND MORE PROBLEMS HAPPENING OVER THERE AT RAINBOW HARBOR, AND WE'VE KNOWN THAT WE'VE HAD THINGS GOING ON THERE.
UM, I KNOW ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS SUGGESTED THAT WE PUT SOME OF OUR IDLE MARINE PATROL VEHICLES TO GIVE MORE OF A, JUST TO HAVE A STATION, A VIEW OF PRESENCE OVER THERE.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS IN REGARD TO RELATING TO VENDORS, UH, STREET VENDORS AND FOOD TRUCKS, UM, THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REQUEST.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ORDER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S YOU AND I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE STREET VENDORS.
IT'S, IT'S THOSE PARTIES THAT TAKE PLACE AT SOME OF THOSE DOCKS WHEN YOU'RE AT RAINBOW LATE AT NIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S, IT'S MORE OF THE PEOPLE WALKING THE DOCKS WHEN PEOPLE ARE THE LIVERBOARDS.
AND I'VE GOTTEN CALLS, WHEN ARE THE POLICE,
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WHEN ARE WE GONNA HAVE ANY POLICE ACTION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO HAVE HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STOPPED THAT HAVE BEEN FISHING OFF THE DOCKS? I'VE GOTTEN SIX CALLS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CALLS YOU'VE GOTTEN.
AND MY, MY, MY CHAIRWOMAN CAUGHT SO MANY, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST THERE.
THEY'RE JUST, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HOMELESS, BUT THE KIDS THAT I'VE SEEN, DEFINITELY NOT HOMELESS.
YOU KNOW, THEY GET ON THEIR ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND THEIR ELECTRIC BIKES AND THEY TAKE OFF.
YOU KNOW, SO, AND SOME ARE, WE'RE JUST GONNA SEE MORE OF THIS, SO WE'VE GOTTA GET IN FRONT OF IT AGAIN, MARINE PATROL, MARINE SAFETY, LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE VERY, VERY MUCH AWARE OF THESE ISSUES.
WE COMMUNICATE THESE ISSUES TO THEM CONSISTENTLY.
AND IT'S, IT'S DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE LAW AND POLITICAL WILL, SCOPE OF POLITICAL WILL.
AND SO, SORRY, THAT WAS A HIT, THAT WAS A SIDE, BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT.
BUT IT'S JUST, AND, AND I'LL, I'M GONNA THROW THIS IN BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT'S TOOK THE DOG DOWN TO, TO ROSIE'S AND LOOKED AT THE BIKE PATH.
IT'S 30 MILE AN HOUR ELECTRIC BIKES, UM, ON THE BIKE PATH.
AND YOU SAW THEY'RE NOT 15, THE BEACH, THEY WERE 30 MILE AN HOUR AND THERE WERE SEVEN KIDS.
AND IT'S LIKE, MY DOG WAS FREAKING OUT NOW I DIDN'T HAVE MY PHONE 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA GO IN THE WATER WITH IT AND I'M LIKE GOING, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SAY A FEW WORDS OUTSIDE, BUT I MEAN, IF YOU WERE WALKING DOWN THERE AND SOMEBODY BUMP INTO YOU, I'VE HAD SOME CLOSE CALLS MYSELF BECAUSE I, I MOVED SLOW.
UM, BUT IT'S THE POLITICAL WILL OF THE CITY COUNCILWOMAN THAT'S IN THAT AREA THAT WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE WITH THAT FOLKS WHO'S, SOMEBODY'S GETTING, THERE'S NO ONE DOWN THERE CHECKING THESE GUYS.
I, I THINK WE WANNA SEND A STRONGER MESSAGE ABOUT ENFORCEMENT.
AND MAYBE THAT COULD, UM, MAYBE WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION DURING OUR MEETING, UM, TO SEND A LETTER FROM THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION TO PD TALKING ABOUT OUR CONCERNS FOR LACK OF ENFORCEMENT.
WELL LET THEM COME IN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO BE PLEASED WITH THE EFFORTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN MAKING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, GRANT'S PASS WAS A BIG DEAL.
IT WAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE SUPREME COURT TO, YOU KNOW, DECISION BASED ON THAT.
AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE, THE RETURN OF ENFORCEMENT IN OUR FOOTPRINT THAT HAD BEEN LACKING FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE OF GRANT'S PAST.
SO I BELIEVE WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING, WE'RE SEEING A, A SHIFT BACK TO A MORE ENFORCEMENT BASED.
I I, BUT I THINK WE WANNA ACCELERATE THAT SHIFT.
CAN'T, IT'S NOT ALL RAINBOWS AND LOLLIPOPS.
OH, I, I ALWAYS WANTED TO, I I FINALLY GOT TO USE THAT IN A, IN A THING.
WE KNOW THIS IS GOING ON AND YES, WE'RE LOOKING ATFOR IT.
HEY, WE'VE TICKETED 12 PEOPLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S FIVE MINUTES ON THE, ON THE, ON THE BIKE LANE.
THIS IS GOING ON ALL THE TIME.
AND YOU'RE HEARING IT FROM THE BIKERS THAT I NEVER LIKED BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE GOING UP THERE AND THEY'RE DOING MORE THAN 20 MILES AN HOUR.
YOU KNOW, ON YOUR LEFT, ON YOUR LEFT.
THESE KIDS ON AN ELECTRIC BIKE THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW 'EM UNTIL I JUMP OUT OF THE WAY AND THEY'RE LAUGHING.
SO MAKE SURE YOU'RE WALKING ON THE PEDESTRIAN PATH ON, ON THE BIKE PATH.
IT'S, I'M THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IS WHERE I'VE HAD THE CLOSE CALLS.
WE HAVE IT IN FRONT OF MY, I MEAN, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM LONG BEACH STATE.
SO WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES AT LONG BEACH STATE AND ALL AROUND THE PARK.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE 20 AND 30 AT A TIME.
THEY COME OUT AND, AND POP WHEELS THE WHOLE TIME THROUGH.
I'M TRYING TO GET ON THEIR LIST SO I CAN HEAR ABOUT IT.
SO I CAN TAKE MY HARLEY OUT AND LIKE RIDE WITH 'EM.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S NEW SIGNAGE OUT ON, UH, THE BIKE PATH.
THERE IS, UH, WITH, UH, MILES PER HOUR LIMITS, YOU KNOW, UH, 20 MILES, UH, IS THE, THE, THE LIMIT FOR ALL BIKES, WHETHER THEY ARE ELECTRIFIED OR NOT.
AND THEN THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER LIKE, UNDERNEATH THAT IT SHOWS 15 FOR SCOTERS.
BRAD, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE, UH, UH, TAKE A COUPLE PICTURES.
I MEAN, DURING THE THING I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT COME UP.
IT'S JUST MAKING A STATEMENT TO THE PEOPLE THERE.
THE SAME THING WITH FISHING ON THE DOCKS.
WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE OUT THERE NOW.
IT'S LIKE, LIKE THE CHAIRMAN WOULD SAY, NOW WE NEED A STRONGER ENFORCEMENT ARM.
IF THE SIGNAGE IS THERE, THAT'S 70% OF IT.
BUT YEAH, UH, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE MARINE SAFETY THERE.
WE'LL HAVE MARINE PATROL THERE.
AND THEN, UH, UM, LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA, UH,
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DISCUSS SOME REALLY GOOD ENFORCEMENT, UH, ACTION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.WE GAVE A CERTIFICATE OUT TO OUR, OUR FIRE, THE MARINE SAFETY.
HE JUST GOT RECOGNIZED FOR THE, UH, RED CROSS, I BELIEVE.
HE DID RED CROSS AND THEN THE, THE, UH, DOUBLE WHAMMY ON THE AQUATIC CAPITAL OF AMERICA, RIGHT? YES.
AND, AND THE BOY SCOUTS SCOUT
I WANT TO GO ON RECORD FOR SOME FUN STUFF, BUT I WON'T, CAN I CHANGE? I JUST WANNA GIVE IT BRIEF, BUT I WON'T, MY NAME WE'RE ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH ONE ANOTHER HERE.
IF EVER THAT MADE ME THINK THE, THE NIGHT THAT HE MADE THAT RESCUE.
HE AND I WERE BOTH AT THE PARTY AT NIGEL'S.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT AS FAR AS FROM OUR MARINE DEPARTMENT? UH, WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT.
THAT IS, UH, LEASE PROPERTY UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THEIR PERMIT AND PLANNING, UH, AND, UH, AND HOW THAT INTERACTION GOES WITH THE RENTAL BOATS AND, AND THOSE DOCKS WHO SAID THOSE DOCKS THROUGH BRANDON PACIFIC? I, YEAH.
THOSE, I MEAN, I WENT OUT AND LOOKED, MAN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH OUR DOCKS NOT BEING DONE HERE.
AND I HAD MY OWN DUFFY BOAT AND STUFF, AND, AND NIGEL AND I ARE, WE'RE FRIENDS.
HOW DO YOU GET AWAY WITH THIS? OH, IT'S THROUGH MY LEASE WITH PURINA PACIFICA.
I WENT REALLY THIS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THE DOCKS IS, IS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT A APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED.
UH, I DO HAVE, AS THE MARINE BUREAU MANAGER, I DO HAVE CONCERNS IF AND WHEN THEY APPLY FOR A ALCOHOL BEVERAGE LICENSE.
UM, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A, A BOAT RENTAL COMPANY ALSO SELLING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
I, I, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL VOICE OUR CONCERN TO, UH, UH, THE A BC DURING THE PROCESS AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THEY DON'T SERVE ALCOHOL NOW IN THE RESTAURANT? NOT, IT'S NOT, HE'S NOT COMPLETELY THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THEY HAVE BOATS NOW THAT ARE IN BETWEEN A DOCK THAT YOU CAN SIT AND, AND DRINK AND EAT ON NOW.
WELL, YOU CAN RENT THE BOATS TO TAKE THEM OUT AND YOU CAN SIT AT THE BAR AND DRINK THOSE LITTLE ROUND ONES.
OH, THE, THOSE THE BARBIE KIND OF ONES.
THOSE ARE JUST THOSE SIT THERE.
I CAN SEE THEM BEING TOWED OUT THERE.
GREEN BUREAU HAS NO OPINION ON WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THAT FACILITY.
AS LONG AS THE CITY OF LONG BEACH HAS APPROVED THE USE VR PLANNING IN.
WELL, I PERSONALLY, I'VE HAD A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OPERATOR YEAH.
IN THAT HE'S, UM, HE TRACKS EACH ONE OF HIS VESSELS.
AND HE KNOWS THIS V HE HAS LIMITERS ON HIM.
HE'S GOT THINGS ON THE PROPS SO THAT HE'S NOT GONNA KILL A SWIMMER.
HE, HE IS A GOOD OPERATOR AND AWAY OPERATOR.
UH, HE CLOSES EARLY BECAUSE HE KNOWS BAD THINGS HAPPEN AFTER NINE O'CLOCK.
HE'S, HE'S, HE'S RUN THINGS IN A, A POSITIVE WAY.
THE RENTAL BUSINESS IS RAN WELL, BUT I, I HAVE MY CONCERNS WITHIN THE OTHER AREA AS YOU DO.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE HAVE, UM, SOME RESTRICTIONS PUT ON THERE, UM, WHICH EVERY LIQUOR LICENSE THAT'S ISSUED WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT AS A COMMISSION.
WELL, AT LEAST OUR MARINE DEPARTMENT KNOWS THAT IF THERE'S BOATS GOING OUT THERE AND THEY DO HAVE ALCOHOL, THAT'S ONE PLACE THEY'RE GONNA BE, WELL, THEY DON'T CHECK THE, THE DUFFY BOATS THAT ARE GOING OUT OF THE, THE, THE ONE BY THE BOATHOUSE.
WELL, YOU SEE THEM GET ON BOARD.
PEOPLE COME IN WITH BOARD WITH THE 12 GAS CASES, CASES OF BEER.
WELL, AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO LEGAL ENFORCEMENT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE LAW.
YOU CAN'T JUST PULL OVER SOMEBODY FOR NO REASON.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE, CAUSE AND SO, YOU KNOW, SAME SWEAR US IN YEAH.
SO MARINE SAFETY, MARINE PATROL, ALL OF OUR GROUPS ARE VERY, VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S JUST THEY HAVE TO ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH, WITH THE SCOPE OF LAW.
I MEAN, SO, SO THEY, SO IF YOU WERE IN A VEHICLE, YOU CAN'T HAVE, UH, OPEN CONTAINERS IN YOUR VEHICLE DRIVING RIGHT.
DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT.
SO NAVIGATION CAPTAIN CAN'T BE DRINKING.
NAVIGATION LAW IS DIFFERENT THAN, AND IF IT'S ON A DUFFY
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THAT'S UNDER 10 MILES AN HOUR, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY CAN DRINK.IF IT'S UNDER 10 MILES AN HOUR, OH MY GOD.
THERE'S NO, UH, THE DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT, BUT I RAN A CHECK ON THAT WHEN I, I WAS RULE LAW IS CAPTAIN, WHOEVER IS OPERATING A VESSEL ON THE WATER CAN BE IMPAIRED, CANNOT BE IMPAIRED.
YOU CAN'T DO DAMAGE YOU AT 10 MILES AN HOUR.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW FAST YOU'RE GOING OR SLOW TO GO.
THE, THE, THE PEOPLE ON THE GOLD COAST TALKING ABOUT THEIR BOATS GETTING HURT, ANYTHING EVER COME OUT OF THE ERS ONE FOR YOU? ANYONE EVER COME OUT OF THE, THE CHRIS POOR CHRIS SCRAP BOATS THAT WE HAD THERE WHEN WE HAD THAT NIGHT RIDER THAT CAME THROUGH AND, UH, UH, CRASHED ALL THE, UH, WE PROVIDED THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT HAD DAMAGE.
WE PROVIDED THEM THE, THE VIDEO, THE CLAIM FORM AND ALL VIDEO THAT SHOWED, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THEN IT JUST BECAME AN ISSUE BETWEEN THEM AND THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
CAROL WILLIAMS IS THE ONE THAT SUFFERED THE MOST DAMAGE.
SO, UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING COMMENT OUT OF THAT SINCE THAT TIME.
SO I DID HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ENFORCEMENT THING.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE NEXT ITEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK LIKE, WHETHER, LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S THE FOOD TRUCKS OR, UH, THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT DECISION, WHICH I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH ACTUALLY IN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE VANDALISM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR THE BEHAVIOR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE, KIDS FISHING AND, AND KIDS GOING TOO FAST ON THEIR SCOOTERS AND STUFF.
IT'S, IT'S, RATHER THAN SAY IT'S NOT US, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE AS A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS AT DIFFERENT TIMES, YOU KNOW, SELFISH OR NOT JUST HAVING OUR OWN FUN, OUR PARTIES AND EVERYTHING.
SO, SO IT'S GOOD THAT ENFORCEMENT, I MEAN, I THINK TO YOUR POINT OF THE OREGON LAW NOW, THERE'S A BIG FOCUS NOW BECAUSE YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ILLEGAL TO BE HOMELESS
SO, SO THEY'RE VERY BUSY WITH THAT NOW.
SO THEY'RE MORE FOCUSED ON THAT, LIKE YOU SAY, TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF ENFORCING LAWS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AFTER A TEENAGER FISHING FROM A PIER WHEN THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S ROBBING A BANK, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO I, I MEAN, I'M REALLY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, BUT SOMETIMES JUST EVEN, UM, MAYBE PUTTING OUT WORD TO THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE, OR THE VOTERS THEMSELVES TO ASK FOR COOPERATION.
BECAUSE LIKE I KNOW FROM, UM, THIS GREAT, UM, ACTIVIST JOE BRENNAN, WHO'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN, FOR PERVERSE SAFETY IN EL DORADO PARK AND HERE IN THE MARINA AS WELL, THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU FISH THOSE FISHING LINES, THEY, THEY GET, THEY MESS WITH THE ANIMALS, YOU KNOW, THEY END UP IN, AT LEAST IN EL DORADO PARK, THEY END UP IN THE PONDS AND SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN CALLED OUT THERE AND SHE'S ELDERLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE OLDER THAN ME.
I MEAN, I'M COMING TO TERMS WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THING.
UH, BUT SHE'S BEING CALLED OUT THERE AND BECAUSE THERE AREN'T A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT KNOW A LOT ABOUT HOW TO, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS AND BIRDS AND STUFF.
AND SHE'S ALWAYS UNTANGLING FISHING LINES.
SO THERE'S, IT'S NOT JUST THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FISH.
THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FISH.
AND THEN IF MAYBE A LITTLE ARTICLE IN A PAPER OR SOMETHING LIKE IN THE, IN YOUR MAGAZINE OR WHATEVER ABOUT WHY, WHY WE DON'T ALLOW FISHING IN OUR MARINE AND MIGHT HELP.
THAT'S JUST, AND THAT'S GOOD TO JUST, AND, AND FOR US TO KNOW AND AS A PART OF OUR CULTURE AND TO OFFER ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S TEENAGERS THAT WANT TO BE FISHING.
AND IF WE TELL 'EM YOU CAN'T FISH HERE, LET'S, LET'S HAVE THE ANSWER OF WHERE WHERE THEY CAN GO.
AND THEY CAN YOU FISH OFF THE JETTIES.
I LEARNED THAT WITH A LICENSE, I BELIEVE.
DO YOU HAVE STILL HAVE A FISHING LICENSE BECAUSE NOT OFF THE BEACH.
YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A FISHING LICENSE OFF THE JETTY, BUT NOT OFF THE, IF YOU'RE A KID, NOT OFF, OFF THE PIER AND OFF THE FISHING PIERS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE ON THE BEACH.
PEERS ARE THE ONLY PLACE YOU DON'T HAVE.
SO I THINK WE, YOU JUST NEED TO GIVE FOLKS ALTERNATIVES SO THEY CAN DO THANK YOU.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE WE WANTED TODD TO BE SURE AND INCLUDE IN HIS REPORT ALONG WITH HIS MANAGEMENT TEAM? NO, JUST I THINK FROM THE, THE POLICE SIDE, I'D LOVE, LOVE TO SEE SOME NUMBERS.
JUST SO WE HAVE SOMETHING WHEN PEOPLE, AND IT'S REALLY, YES.
I, I KNOW IT GOES ONTO THE LIST AND, AND PEOPLE DON'T, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HAD ONE UNTIL LAST MONTH WHEN I WENT ONLINE AND, AND LOOKED AT IT WENT, THIS IS COOL.
IT DOESN'T GET SENT TO US LIKE THE PARKS AND RECS SEND OUT.
I FINALLY GOT A PARKS AND REC THING THAT SAYS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
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THE MARINA DOING THE PARKS, THEY'RE DOING THE MARINA.THAT WAS SOMETHING I, THEY FINALLY GOT MY ADDRESS I GUESS.
AND I GOT SOMETHING IN THE MAIL AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS IS COOL.
IT'S JUST MAKING PEOPLE AWARE.
IT'S JUST MAKING PEOPLE LITERALLY AWARE THAT THIS IS THE DAMAGE IT CAUSES WHEN YOU CUT YOUR LINE BECAUSE IT GOT TANGLED IN THE ROCKS DOWN BELOW.
SO YOU CUT YOUR LINE NOW THAT'S JUST FLOATING.
OH, ONE MORE ITEM TO ASK ON YOUR REPORT.
UH, SO THAT WAS AN UNAUTHORIZED, UH, UNAUTHORIZED SURE.
IT WAS A PROFESSIONAL PAINT JOB, NOT JUST THAT.
IT WAS, THEY DID, THEY REDID THE ENTIRE THING.
I MEAN, IT, IT LOOKED LIKE A BRAND NEW, BRAND NEW CHAIR.
SO, UH, WE ACTUALLY REPAINTED IT, UH, SAW THAT WEDNESDAY, TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY, I THINK I, WELL I WAS GONE 'CAUSE I, UH, MY SON TEXTED ME A PHOTO OF THEM PAINTING.
SO, UH, WE'RE, I'M PLANNING A LITTLE BIT OF PHONE TAG WITH THE OWNER OF THE TRIBUTE WELL, WHO IS A PARKING COMMISSIONER.
UM, BUT YEAH, COMMISSIONER JAN.
UH, BUT, UM, WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT A PART OF ANY OF THE BYLAWS OF OWNING A BENCH? BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THEY OWN THE BENCH.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, I JUST THINK, JUST HEAR ME OUT FOR A SECOND.
I THINK IF YOU OWN THE BENCH AND IT'S IN AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, I THOUGHT IT WAS SO COOL BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE OF THAT PERSON.
THE BENCH IS GIVEN TO, UH, HAD CANCER.
UM, PINK IS, YOU KNOW, I, I THOUGHT WOW, HOW SPECIAL IS THAT? WAS I STOKED? I WAS STOKED WHEN I CALLED YOU.
AND I JUST WENT, THIS IS JUST, AND THEY'RE KEEPING IT UP THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING OUT AND CLEANING IT.
YOU STILL GO DOWN BY THE YACHT CLUB.
IT SHOULD JUST BE A BIRD BENCH BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ABOVE WHERE EVERY THE SIMILAR ONE.
SO, BUT DO YOU THINK PEOPLE COULD MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT THAT OF PUTTING IT IN PEOPLE, SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
BUT I'D HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT THE, THE NORM.
SOMEONE TAKING CARE OF THEIR, THEIR OWN BENCH.
DOES IT SAY THAT IN THE, ARE ARE WE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR WITH, WITH THOSE BENCHES AND EVERYTHING ABOUT 'EM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD IN WITH PARTNERS OF PARKS BASED OFF OF THIS OCCURRENCE.
UH, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A REGULARITY.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SEE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING IN THERE STATING THEY COULDN'T DO IT.
SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT MY THING WAS.
HOWEVER, IT'S, IT'S YOU, YOU OWN THE BENCH, BUT IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY.
YOU NEED TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE CITY TO MAKE ANY ALTERATIONS TO YOUR BENCH.
AND, AND IT WAS IN NEED OF PAINT.
AND, UH, AS SEVERAL OF THOSE ARE ALONG THERE, UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF MAKES YOU THINK, GEE, IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY SOMEBODY TO DO IT AND STRIP IT DOWN AND, AND DO, BECAUSE IT WAS A NICE JOB.
NOW AGAIN, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO DO IT IN AN AUTHORIZED MANNER.
WELL, AND I, AND I'M THINKING WE MAY, IT MAY BE SOME ON US THAT WE WEREN'T REAL CLEAR ABOUT, HEY, WE'RE TELLING YOU IT'S YOUR BENCH.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IT'S YOUR BENCH, BUT YOU CAN'T PAINT IT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO, IT'S, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE WITH THE, THE, THE TRIBUTE BENCH PEOPLE.
WELL, PEOPLE NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE HERE.
IT NEEDS TO BE ON IT WHEN THEY BUY IT.
HEY, AND BY THE WAY, HERE'S THE GUIDELINES AND THE LAWS.
YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THERE THAT STATES IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT.
I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN OUR PAST DOCUMENTATION.
SO, UM, WERE WE WRONG REPAINTING IT? NO, NO.
IF THERE'S NOTHING, I'M JUST THINKING IF THE, IF IF IT GOES LIKE THE OTHER BENCH DID AND THERE'S NEWS CREWS OUT THERE, YEAH.
WE WILL, WE WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, A AGAIN, WE WILL WORK WITH THE FAMILY.
UM, WE WILL, WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, I'M PLAYING PHONE TAG A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW.
MAKE ANOTHER CALL LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO HOW MANY TRIBUTE BENCHES DO WE HAVE? A LOT.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST HAVE ONE, WE HAVE HUNDREDS.
AND TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THE NO, IN PRACTICALITY, I'M GETTING IT.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT HER MINDSET.
AND I'M, I'M TRYING TO BE A LITTLE COMPASSIONATE
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HERE.THINKING THAT THAT MAYBE THAT JUST CHANGING IT RIGHT AWAY WAS MAYBE GOOD.
SO IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IS ROBERT GARCIA GONNA SEE? 'CAUSE THEY, WE FOUND MORE BENCH SPACES WHEN HIS FAMILY MEMBERS PASSED AND KNOW, IS HE GONNA FEEL LIKE HE'S, NOW'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A RAINBOW BENCH.
YOU KNOW, IS IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA START THINGS HAPPENING.
AND THEREIN LIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AS A PARKS.
AND THEN IT COMES DOWN TO, IT COMES DOWN TO RESOURCES REALLY IS BECAUSE WE DO MAINTAIN THE BENCHES AS BEST WE CAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY GET, THEY'RE OUT IN THE ELEMENTS.
UM, SO IT'S ABOUT, OKAY, SO IF, IF IT GOES TO YOU PAINT IT, WHATEVER COLOR YOU WANT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE OUT THERE MAINTAINING THAT BENCH IF IT GETS A LITTLE BIT OF VANDALISM, STUFF LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE HOW MANY COLORS OF PAINT DO YOU WANT THE CITY TO HAVE IN STOCK? YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT A TINY COLOR, TINY LITTLE THING COLOR.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, SO THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION, UM, I'VE BEEN A PART OF A GROUP THAT ADOPTED A PARK.
AND THE BENCHES AND THE VANDALISM ON THEM WAS THE HARDEST PART.
UM, SO I CAN REMEMBER BEING OUT THERE, UM, SPONGE PAINTING, PICNIC BENCHES, UM, TO DISCOURAGE GRAFFITI.
SO YEAH, IT'S, IT STARTS GETTING OTHER THINGS AND THINKING IT THROUGH.
SO IT'S, IF YOU ADOPTED THE BENCH, COULD YOU PAINT IT PINK? I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I, I AM WITH WHAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LARGER ELEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE THAT BENCH LOOKED GREAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DID NOT DO IT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE CITY THAT THEY WERE GOING.
THAT'S THAT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AS, UH, LIKE A, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
A CALIFORNIA LICENSE PLATE, IT'S OPPORTUNITY HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT, OR FIVE DIFFERENT LICENSE PLATES YOU COULD GET WHEN YOU GET A BENCH.
HERE'S THE FOUR OR FIVE COLORS YOU CAN PICK FOR THAT.
AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, AN UPCHARGE ON THAT AND AN UPCHARGE ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MINDSET JAN'S UNDER AS A, A PARKING COMMISSIONER.
AND SHE OWNS THAT, THE LARGE WHITE HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND SHE OWNS, UM, THE OLD TUTTLE CAMERA BUILDING.
UM, AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT COMMISSIONED THAT ARTIST THAT DID THE MASSIVE MURAL ON THE ONE SIDE MM-HMM
SO SHE'S WILLING TO GO THE EXTRA MILE.
SO IF IT MEANS MAYBE WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE OUR BENCH SYSTEM BECAUSE OF HER AND BECAUSE OF THIS INCIDENT, LET'S TURN IT INTO THE MOST POSITIVE THING WE CAN.
THAT, UH, A CHOICE OF TWO OR THREE COLORS THAT YEAH.
HERE'S THE THREE COLORS FOR, FOR CANCER VICTIMS. WE HAVE PINK, UH, FOR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, WE HAVE FOUR COLORS AND JUST LIKE A LICENSE PLATE.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHY NOT.
WELL, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT BENCH WAS PAINTED WITHOUT COMMUNICATING TO THE CITY.
SHOULD WE TELL 'EM THE ORIGINAL? SHOULD WE TELL 'EM WE'RE THE ONES THAT PAINTED IT? NO KIDDING.
SOMEBODY REALLY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE DOING
IT LOOKED, IT LOOKED FANTASTIC.
I MEAN, ALL, EVERYTHING WAS PATCHED.
IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, AND SHE SPENT SOME MONEY DOING IT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT REDONE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
I WAS HOPING AT LEAST WE COULD HAVE THE PICTURE OF IT, THAT WE COULD BRING IT UP.
BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN BRING UP TO PARKS, UH, AND, AND THE BENCHES AND SAY, WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT THIS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE.
IT, IT JUST, IT IT HAS TO BE PLANNED OUT.
IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN A, A VARIETY WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STONE BENCH THAT'S EITHER BEIGE OR GRAY, BEIGE, IT, IT, IT, IT ALLOWS FOR AN AMOUNT OF QUICK RESPONSIVENESS WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE.
BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN THE ELEMENTS OF MAYBE FIVE DIFFERENT COLORS, SIX DIFFERENT COLORS OR ANY WELL, BUT I DO THINK OUR, OUR GRAFFITI TEAMS HAVE THOSE, UM, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT COLORS.
THEY DO THAT ON THE, ON THE FLY.
'CAUSE THEY GO OUT TO PEOPLE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S HOMES WHEN IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE, UH, ALLEYWAYS AND STUFF.
AND THEY, THEY, THEY PUT UP THE, SO I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANNA COVER? MR. SOMETHING? MR. LELAND'S? UH, MANAGEMENT REPORT.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON LELAND'S REPORT YES.
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ABOUT IT IS THE ONE THAT GETS A LOT OF BIRD POOP ON IT.IT JUST, AND WE'LL RELOCATE THAT ONE AT THE NEXT ROUND IS WHAT THE PLAN IS.
I THINK THAT I, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS THAT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, DURING NESTING SEASON, THERE USED TO BE BIRDS RIGHT DOWN THERE AT THE END, UH, BY THAT YACHT CLUB.
AND I'VE NOTICED LATELY THAT THERE AREN'T, AND I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA START SANDBLASTING, WHETHER IT'S THESE PRIVATE PEOPLE, IF THEY DID THIS DURING NESTING SEASON.
BUT ANY PAINTING AND STUFF THAT'S NEAR THE BIRDS SANDBLASTING AND, AND STUFF IS NOT GOOD NEAR NESTING BIRDS.
SO JUST TO TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION, I, I HOPE THAT BENCH WILL GET RELOCATED BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IS IMPACTING THAT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON THE MANAGER'S REPORT.
AND THAT WAS THE LAST ONE ON THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER THAT WE NEED TO ADD OR MODIFY WITHIN THE AGENDA? NO, I'M, I'M PLEASED.
AND I, I THINK THE MORE THE SECURITY SIDE AND THE POLICE SIDE PRESENCE AND WHAT'S GOING ON, I THINK HAVING NUMBERS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE OF, OF REVIEWING NUMBERS, AND I KNOW THEY DO PUT 'EM OUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO LOOK AGAIN WITH THE SIGNS ON, ON THE WALKWAYS, UH, UH, AND THE BIKE PAL, THE P PATH TO HAVE PICTURES THAT WE CAN PUT UP ON THE SCREEN AND THE NO FISHING SIGNS.
UM, AND I THINK, UH, UH, ONE, I, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS IS WHY DON'T YOU GUYS BUILD A GATE? THIS IS A GREAT COMMENT.
WHY DON'T YOU BUILD A GATE THAT PEOPLE CAN'T JUST LEAN OVER AND PUSH THE THING TO GET IN? THERE'S NO REALLY SECURITY, YOU KNOW? AND YOU KNOW, MY BUDDY MIGHT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT ON, I'LL TELL YOU AFTER, BUT A FRIEND OF MINE SAID IT LIKE THAT.
OH YEAH, I'M GONNA PUSH THAT AND I'M GONNA CLIMB OVER.
I MEAN, HE JUST
AND I SAID, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES IT.
YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE WALKING THE, THE DOCKS ON THE BIG SHIPS, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST LEAN OVER, POP IT AND, AND THEY'RE IN, UM, ON ANY OF 'EM.
AND YET IT STILL HAS THE KEY FILE OR THE, THE, THE NUMBER YEAH.
BUT WHY DO YOU NEED THE NUMBER WHEN YOU CAN JUST PUSH THE, THE BACKSIDE OF IT? I DON'T KNOW WHO PLANNED THAT, BECAUSE YOU'D THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A FULL, A FULL GATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE FOR SECURITY OR DONE FOR AESTHETICS.
UH, BUT I WAS LIKE, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY INPUT AT THE, AT THE REBUILD DID NOT WANT, DID NOT WANT BIG, FULL SECURITY GATES.
SO IT IS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 'CAUSE WE SEE THAT THERE'S THE, THE GAP IN THAT SECURITY.
UH, WE DID MAKE SOME ALTERATIONS DOWN IN RAINBOW HARBOR, UH, THIS PAST YEAR AND HAVE BEEN QUITE EFFECTIVE ON KEEPING SOME OF THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS OFF, IF THEY REALLY WANT IN THERE A GATE AND WING WALLS IS NOT GONNA STOP 'EM, RIGHT? NO.
BUT IT STOPS THAT CASUAL TRAFFIC, LIKE IN AND OUT.
AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO BUILD THAT INTO OUR, OUR BUDGET AND HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT SYSTEM, UM, DOWN HERE BECAUSE IT'S, WE SEE THAT AS A, I MEAN, I, I, I COULD, WHEN TODD TOLD ME THAT, THAT WAS LIKE THE COMMUNITY COMMENT, I WAS LIKE, LIKE, I MEAN, I COME FROM LIKE RE LIKE PRIVATE ARENAS, LIKE WHERE EVERY, THEY WANT THE FULL GATES.
THEY WANT, IT'S ALL THE WAY UP.
THE HISTORICAL COMMENT FROM THE PERMITING COMMUNITY DOWN HERE AS THEY DID NOT WANT KATE, THEY DID NOT WANT THEM, UH, TIME'S CHANGING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH, WE'RE BEHOLDEN TO WHERE'S THE CRAB COOK CRAB COOKERS BEHIND US RIGHT THERE.
WALKING DOWN, UH, THAT DOCK, UH, THREE DAYS AGO.
AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, FISHERMENS ON THE DOCK AND I GET IT.
'CAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE FISHING BETWEEN THE BOATS, SO THEY'RE CASTING IT BETWEEN THE BOATS.
AND THERE WAS AN OLDER GENTLEMAN ON THAT WAS YELLING AT THE, IT WAS EMBARRASSING.
I'M SURELY NOT GONNA PULL OUT ANY TYPE OF ID AND STUFF.
AND I WENT, GUYS, I'M GOING BY.
WHY ARE YOU CUSSING? THEY'RE CUSSING AT THE GUY.
BECAUSE HE'D ASK HIM, PLEASE DON'T, DON'T FISH IN BETWEEN THE BOATS.
AND YEAH, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.
THEY, THEY, THEY DIDN'T GO TO WILSON HIGH SCHOOL, SO I'LL, I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.
AND IT WAS JUST LIKE, WHY, WHY, WHY DO WE HAVE THIS SITUATION NOW? THEY GOT UP WHEN THEY SAW ME AND I COME WALKING DOWN, THEY GOT THEIR STUFF REELED UP AND THEY LEFT, WE'RE LEAVING, BUT THEY WERE, THIS GUY IS IN HIS PROBABLY MIDDLE EIGHTIES.
UM, AND I JUST SAID, I, I JUST HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE A HEART ATTACK BECAUSE HE WAS JUST SO PASSIONATE ABOUT, YOU'RE GONNA HIT MY BOAT, YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS.
AND THEY'RE JUST, IT'S A VERY HARD THING THAT WE ADVISE OUR COMMITTEES NOT TO GET INTO A CONFRONTATION.
YOU KNOW, ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY AND CAUTION, UH, FOR OUR VOTERS CALL OUR OFFICE CALL.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING OF OUR WORLD THAT'S CHANGED.
SO, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MINDSET SOMEONE
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IS IN.UH, SO I ALWAYS, I, YOU KNOW, AND BRIAN DOES, AND WE TELL OUR STAFF TO TELL OUR CS.
I KNOW, BUT YOU NEED TO CALL, DO NOT CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING YOURSELF IN.
IN A SITUATION THAT COULD BECOME POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.
SO ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE IS, HEY, BACK AWAY.
IF YOU IDENTIFY IT, CALL THE OFFICE, CALL, UH, LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, NON-EMERGENCY 4 3 5 6 7 1 1.
AND YEAH, IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE TIME, BUT A OFFICER WILL RESPOND.
HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU HAVE ON AT NIGHT? ONE.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU OFFLINE, BUT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA PUT, UH, THE NUMBER NOT GONNA BE ON.
BOY, THAT WAS A QUICK, I THOUGHT YOU WERE HAVING A STROKE.
WELL, AT THE END OF DAY, I WANNA PROTECT OUR MARINE CONTROL.
YOU KNOW, I WON'T PUT THEM IN THE SITUATION PLACE.
NOW BEFORE WE CLOSE, WE DO WANNA OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT AGAIN, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, WE CAN'T RESPOND TO THOSE, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GONNA HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, RIGHT? YES.
I, AND IF I, I MISUNDERSTOOD AND THOUGHT THAT IF I CAME TO THE PLANNING MEETING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THIS TO THE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT ISN'T THE CASE.
BUT I STILL STAYED FOR THE MEETING AND, UM, WAS ENCOURAGED TO MAKE A, A ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
AND THAT IS, UM, AS, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I KNOW JOE WATCHED THE COASTAL COMMISSION MEETING LAST MONTH, OR WAS IT JUST LAST MONTH? SEEMS LIKE I WAS TRAUMATIZED.
WE REALLY HAD HOPED THAT BECAUSE THE STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED THAT FIREWORK SHOWS NO LONGER BE ALLOWED IN OUR LITTLE LES BAY, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
AND SO WE DIDN'T REALLY PLAN, UH, TO, UH, TO ASK THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO PUT ON CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, REGARDING FIREWORKS THIS YEAR.
WE ARE IN DISCUSSION OR WE DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF SUBSEQUENT TO THIS MEETING AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE IN DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR CONCERNS WITH THE, UM, WITH MR. MORRIS AND ALSO PERHAPS WITH THE CITY.
BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE THE OUTCOME OF THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAPPENED LAST YEAR THAT WE HADN'T SEEN BEFORE WAS THE NUMBER OF CAR ALARMS THAT WERE SET OFF BY LAST YEAR'S FIREWORKS.
AND THIS, THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE.
THERE WAS THIS, EVEN IN THE NEWSPAPER, THERE WAS ANOTHER SHOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS, THAT SET OFF CAR ALARMS. AND, AND THE NIGHT THAT THE CAR ALARMS WERE GOING OFF, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW A, A JUVENILE GREAT BLUE HERON FELL FROM ITS NEST IN THE LARGE TWO YEAR WHERE I'M JUST WATCHING A NEW, NEW NESTING, JUVENILES JUMPING AROUND THE END TREE.
AND FORTUNATE OR UN WELL FORTUNATE DIDN'T LAND ON THE SIDEWALKS.
IT FELL STRAIGHT DOWN INTO THE MARINA.
SO THAT'S WHAT, FROM THE TOP OF THE TREE, 30 FOOT DROP.
AND WE HAPPENED TO HAVE A MONITOR THERE, WALTER.
UH, AND HE VIDEOTAPED IT ONCE IT FELL AND IT SWAM, IT COULDN'T GET UP ON A DOCK.
I MEAN, THE DOCKS WERE TOO HIGH, IT COULDN'T CLIMB OUT, BUT IT WAS ABLE TO SWIM AROUND THE VERY END OF THE LITTLE PARK DOWN THERE AND COME AROUND AND CLIMB UP ON A RUBBER RAFT THAT WAS LOWER.
IT'S A FLOATING THING, BUT IT ISN'T AS HIGH AS A DOCK WHERE IT SAT UNTIL AT LEAST MIDNIGHT.
THAT'S HOW LONG I, AND THE, THE MONITORS, UH, UH, THAT WERE HIRED, THE BIOLOGICAL MONITORS THAT WERE HIRED BY MR. MORRIS CONTINUED TO SAY, WELL, THE ONE CONTINUED TO SAY IT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
IT'S PERFECTLY FINE, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
BUT SHE, ONE THING SHE DID SAY IS IT WASN'T THE FIREWORKS THAT THAT ALARM BIRD, IT WAS THE CAR ALARM.
SO WE HAVE IT FROM THE OFFICIAL HIRED BIOLOGICAL CONSULTANT THAT THE CAR ALARMS CAUSED THAT BIRD DEFAULT.
NOW, OF COURSE, AS WE SAID TO HER THAT NIGHT, YEAH, BUT WHAT SET OFF THE CAR ALARMS AND ALL THESE CAR ALARMS WENT OFF WHEN THE FIREWORKS ARE GOING AND THEY WENT OFF REPEATEDLY, THEY WOULD STOP, YOU KNOW HOW THEY STOP AFTER A MINUTE AND THEN ANOTHER GROUP COME BACK ON AND THEN SOME OF THEM WOULD START AGAIN.
AND IT WAS RANDOM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, I I DIDN'T, I MEAN, IT WAS CRAZY.
AND WE HAVE A RECORDING, BUT THAT, THAT VIDEO WAS A PART OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION HEARING THOUGH, RIGHT? SO THEY WERE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY, AND SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS, OH YEAH, OH YES, SHE'S, BUT SHE'S NOT, SHE'S INTERACTIVE, BUT I SEE.
YEAH, SHE'S JUST OFFERING ADDITIONAL, BUT SHE'S NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU, WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAYING YES.
AND, AND WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT VIDEO, WHICH
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I MEAN, I THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING, BUT I, ANYWAY, IT'S, SO WHAT ALL WE'RE SAYING IS IN, IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING THAT NO CARS BE PARKED ON FUEL DOCK ROAD DURING THE FIREWORK SHOW.AND WE REALIZE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN EFFORT INVOLVED, BUT EVEN LAST YEAR THERE WERE AT LEAST 20 SPOTS THAT WERE WERE TAPED OFF WHERE THERE WAS NO PARK.
NO, NOBODY EVER CAME AND PARKED IN THEM.
WE REALIZED SOME OF THE BOAT OWNERS MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT WE THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO DROPPING PEOPLE OFF.
THEY COULD DROP OFF THEIR SUPPLIES AND COME BACK.
WE'RE NOT SAYING FOR THE WHOLE DAY, BUT I KNOW, BUT ONCE YOU GET PARKED THERE, BUT WE KNOW, WE ARE ACTUALLY SAYING FOR THE WHOLE DAY, MAYBE.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA GET, I MEAN I COULD IMAGINE WHERE THERE NO, JUST KNOW.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING TO ASK FOR.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE MAINLY, MAYBE THAT WILL BE A SPECIAL EVENTS CALLED, BUT THE MARINA DOES HAVE SOME, UH, ABILITY TO, TO SAY, WELL, WE ARE TRYING TO JUST PROTECT THE BIRDS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE VOLUME, THEY HAVE ALL THESE RULES AND ABOUT THE VOLUME OF SOUND THAT'S ALLOWED AND THEY WILL MONITOR USING EVERYTHING, BUT THEY CAN'T MONITOR THE FIREWORKS.
AND SO THEN THEY CAN'T MONITOR THE SOUND OF THE CAR ALARMS. AND THE CAR ALARMS EXCEEDS, FAR EXCEEDS THE VOLUME.
THAT IS, IS THAT THE COASTAL MISSION, BIRD MANAGEMENT THINGS ALLOWS, THAT'S WHY THE BIRD FELL, FELL OUT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PLEA IS TO, IF THERE'S SOME, ANY KIND OF A WORKAROUND THAT WILL NOT ALLOW CARS PARKED ON THAT, ON THAT STREET DURING THE EVENT UNTIL, THANK YOU.
AND WITH THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I AM ADJOURNING AT 9 37.