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LIKE TO CALL THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER FOR JUNE 5TH, 2025.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S 2 31 FOR THE RECORD.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY TO CALL THE ROLE CHAIR FITZGERALD HERE.

VICE CHAIR HERE.

MEMBER ELY.

HERE.

MEMBER ANDERSON.

MEMBER BARRETT.

HERE.

MEMBER RICCI WILL BE LATE MEMBER YOUNG.

YES.

WE HAVE A FORUM.

OKAY.

AND FOR THE RECORD MEMBERS, DERIO AND MIL ARE EXCUSED FROM THIS MEETING.

AND ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THURSDAY, MARCH 13TH, 2025.

AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MOTION FROM MEMBER ILEY.

SECOND.

SECOND FROM MEMBER BARRETT.

AND ANY DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT.

UH, I THINK WE'RE READY TO CALL THE ROLL.

UH, CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.

VICE CHAIR CONING? YES.

MEMBER ELY? YES.

MEMBER BARRETT? YES.

MEMBER YOUNG? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

MANY THANKS.

AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM TWO.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATIONS ORAL UPDATES.

AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MY MOTION? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

ILEY SECOND INGS.

AND BEFORE WE OPEN THE DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO THIS ITEM? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE PRESENTATION CHAIR.

IT'S, OH, I'M SORRY.

YES.

I SUPPOSE YOU NEED SOME UPDATES, DON'T YOU? I'M SORRY.

UM, I HAVE SORT OF A HODGEPODGE TODAY.

UM, UH, SO SUMMER IS IN FULL SWING FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE HAVE OUR SUMMER FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT, UM, SECTION ON THE WEBSITE ALL UPDATED.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT OUR LISTINGS OF MOVIES IN THE PARK AND CONCERTS AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF.

SO WE'RE ALREADY REALLY BUSY.

UM, UH, THE HALL OF FAME COMMITTEE MET LAST MONTH AND, UM, WE HAD A REALLY GREAT BATCH OF NOMINATIONS THIS YEAR.

UM, THEY DID, UH, MAKE TWO SELECTIONS, UM, THAT WERE PROPOSING TO THE DIRECTOR.

SO AS SOON AS I, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT CONFIRMED, THEN WE WILL, UM, BE ABLE TO RELEASE THOSE NAMES.

UM, SO BY NEXT, OBVIOUSLY BY NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE.

SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE THE CEREMONY, UM, AS USUAL AFTER LONG BEACH OPEN.

SO, AND WE'LL SEE SOME OF YOU THERE.

UM, THE, UH, UH, SMOKING ON THE GOLF COURSES MEMO, UM, FROM THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN RELEASED TO, UM, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO, UH, WE'LL HOPEFULLY SEE THAT ON A CITY COUNCIL AGENDA SOON.

UM, THAT WILL BE A REQUEST FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND A MUNICIPAL CODE.

UM, SO I'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING IF NEED BE ABOUT WHERE THAT IS.

UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP YOU INFORMED IF IT'S ON ANY AGENDAS FOR ANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IF ANY DISCUSSION IS UPCOMING ON THAT.

UH, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.

UM, UH, THAT, AND THEN JUST ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, BECAUSE IT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, IS, UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY AT BIG REC, UM, THERE IS A, I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE DRIVE THAT COMES UP AND THROUGH THE, UH, PARKING LOT, AND THEN IT DOES, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF COMES DOWN AS LIKE A SERVICE ROAD AND MEETS, UM, ANAHEIM THERE AND THERE'S LIKE A GATE, YOU KNOW, A GATED ENTRANCE.

UM, SO I KNOW THAT AMERICAN GOLF HAS HAD SOME ISSUES WITH LIKE, INCREASED USAGE OF THAT OR LIKE IMPROPER USAGE.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CLOSE CALLS, UM, WITH BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS.

AND SO THE QUESTION HAS COME UP A COUPLE TIMES FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT ACCESS THROUGH THERE.

UM, SO I'VE JUST, YOU KNOW, BEEN TRYING TO INFORM PEOPLE THAT, UH, ACCESS THROUGH THAT AREA IS LIMITED BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THEIR LEASEHOLD AND IT'S NOT ESTABLISHED AS A BIKEWAY OR A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY YET.

UM, IT IS CALLED OUT IN THE BIKE MASTER PLAN AS A, UM, LIKE UNDER OUR VISION FOR

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A COMPLETE NETWORK.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE, WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE BIKE MAP, UM, ON THE, UH, CITY WEBSITE.

IT'S GOT DIFFERENT LAYERS AND THINGS YOU CAN SEE AND IT IS INCLUDED IN THERE ON THE PROPOSED BIKEWAYS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS THAT OUR INTENTION IS THAT ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A BIKE SAFE, UH, ROUTE TO TAKE, BUT JUST RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT.

SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE SO YOU GUYS CAN SPREAD THE WORD.

IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING HISTORICALLY ON THAT.

I THINK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS WHY THAT WAS CLOSED, SO YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO THEM.

OKAY.

SO THEY MAY HAVE SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY THAT WAS CLOSED.

OKAY.

YEAH, GETTING SOME BACKGROUND WOULDN'T HURT BECAUSE YEAH, AS I SAID, IT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES.

AND WHAT WAS THAT TRAFFIC? THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

IT USED TO BE OPEN CARS, CLOSED IT MOSTLY, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF PEOPLE MAKING LEFT TURNS ONTO ANAHEIM.

IT WAS A PAIN IN MIC TO NOT BE, BE ABLE TO COME FROM CLARK AND TURN RIGHT IN ALL THE WAY AROUND.

OH, THAT, YEAH.

MAKES SENSE.

UM, OKAY.

YEAH, I CAN REACH OUT TO THEM TOO AND GET SOME MORE BACKGROUND.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TOO BECAUSE ON THAT, ON THE MAP THAT I MENTIONED, IT, IT SHOWS ON ONE OF THE LAYERS AND IF YOU CLICK ON IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU'RE READING IT, I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LISTED AS PROPOSED.

SO, UM, YEAH.

THAT, THAT SEEMS UN UNSAFE TO ME FOR BIKES TO BE GOING THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT.

YEAH.

'CAUSE THEY GOT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT, WE ALMOST, WE HAD A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH TWO KIDS ON E-BIKES.

OH.

AND YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S BACKING OUT THE PARKING LOT, THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING E-BIKES TO, TO COME FLYING THROUGH.

MM.

WE'VE ALSO HAD PEDESTRIANS THAT, WALKERS THAT LIKE TO USE THAT AND WALK DOWN THE, THE FAIRWAY, YOU KNOW? OH YEAH.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OPEN SO PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN WALK DOWN THERE.

MM-HMM .

WE TESTED IT WITH CHAINS AND THE FEEDBACK WAS QUICK.

YEAH.

AND YES, .

OKAY.

AND I, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE SMOKING BAN, SO MM-HMM .

ARE YOU AWARE, DID, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT CHANGED FROM THE TIME THE LANGUAGE LEFT THIS COMMITTEE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE GUIDANCE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NOW HAS? OR IS IT ESSENTIALLY THE SAME? IT'S, UM, I, AND I CAN SHARE THE MEMO WITH YOU.

IT'S POSTED, UM, PUBLICLY.

IT, IT, THE LANGUAGE WAS, UH, I BELIEVE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN SOME, IN SOME, BUT, OR TO ALLOW SMOKING IN SOME, BUT NOT AR NOT ALL AREAS OF THE COURSES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS WORDED RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE, THE MEMO HAS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW THE DECISION WAS, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY MADE TO EXEMPT GOLF COURSES AND THEN, UM, YOUR GUYS' RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD IF YOU HAVE THAT.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH, I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU GUYS.

SURE.

THANKS.

ALRIGHT.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MEMBERS, PUBLIC COMMENT? WILL, WILL, THERE, IS THERE GONNA BE A FEE INCREASE ON JULY ONE? AND I WILL, LET ME NOTICE IT'S POSTED.

IS IT POST? OKAY.

THANKS.

AND I'M WORKING, UM, ON THE CITY SIDE TO GET THAT UPDATED.

THERE'S A AT LEAST FINE.

OKAY.

LE THANKS.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

THEN WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION.

WE HAD A, A MOTION FOR MEMBER LEY, A SECOND FROM MEMBER CONING.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR CALL THE ROLL.

OKAY.

UH, CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.

VICE CHAIR CONING? YES.

MEMBER ILEY? YES.

MEMBER BARRETT? YES.

MEMBER YOUNG? YES.

OKAY.

MANY THANKS FOR THAT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES ON COURSES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND THE LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL.

AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION? ALRIGHT, SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM YOUNG SECOND FROM BARRETT.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, SEE YOU.

NONE.

UM, GARY, I THINK THIS ONE'S YOURS.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SINCE THAT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP, WE'LL START WITH THE RATES.

YES.

UH, WE POSTED THE NEW RATE SHEET AND INFORMATION ON JUNE 1ST TO GO LIVE ON JULY 1ST.

UM, PENDING THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH GOLF NOW AND THEIR NEW BEAUTIFUL SYSTEM.

IT WILL GO LIVE ON JULY 1ST WITHOUT ANY HICCUPS, BUT, UM, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT.

UM, FOR THE AMERICAN GOLF FOUNDATION, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE'VE RAISED A LITTLE OVER $7,000, UM, NOT COUNTING THE START OF JUNE, WHICH STARTS

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FULL OF HONOR.

UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO RAISE MONEY AND RAISE AWARENESS, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT PROGRAM HERE IN LONG BEACH.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT A PREVIOUS MEETING WAS HAVING A QR CODE OR SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK THAT CAN BE IMMEDIATE WHEN THE GOLFERS ARE FINISHED PLAYING GOLF.

UM, I PASSED OUT TODAY, UM, OUR FIRST DRAFT, UM, IT IS LIVE FOR SKY LINKS, UM, TO SCAN THE QR CODE LEAVE QUICK REVIEW.

THAT GETS EMAILED TO ME STRAIGHT THROUGH, UM, UH, SURVEYMONKEY.

UM, SO IT'LL BE ALL TRACKED THROUGH THERE.

ANYTIME WE WANNA ADD OR UPDATE OR CHANGE OR, OR PUT MORE DETAIL IN THERE, WE CAN.

UM, BUT THIS WILL BE A GOOD START FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE PLAYING GOLF.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE FLYER, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE FLYER WE HAVE FOR, FOR SKYLING.

THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY LOOK THE SAME FOR ALL.

UM, AND WE'LL POST THOSE, UM, ON THE DOORS AND, AND ON THE CARTS WHEN YOU RETURN.

SO, SO DOES THE SCAN, IT GOES TO YOU, BUT IT IT GOES TO ALL THE GMS OR THEY ALL COME TO YOU? THEY ALL GO TO ME.

OKAY.

AND THEN THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE FILTERED BY COURSE, SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY COME FROM.

AND THEN THE GMS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT IF THEY, IF THEY NEED IT.

BUT FOR STARTERS, THEY'LL GO TO MY, UM, DROP OR, UH, SURVEYMONKEY LINK.

AND WHAT, WHAT CAN PEOPLE ACCESS THIS? IT WILL BE AT EACH COURSE ON DOORS OR MM-HMM .

I SEE.

SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE EXACT PLACE WHERE WE WANT IT SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT WHEN THEY FINISH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM .

BE AVAILABLE, UM, FOR CAPEX, LET'S SEE, WE JUST FINISHED THE 14 TS AND 11 BUNKERS AT HARTWELL.

UM, THE PROJECT WENT REALLY WELL.

UM, WE'RE OPENING THE TEES AND BONKERS ON FRIDAY, UH, THIS WEEK, JUNE 6TH, UH, WE, WE TOOK DOWN THE NOTICE ON THE WEBSITE AND WE'RE GONNA SEND OUT AN E-BLAST.

JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THE PLAY HAS STILL BEEN GREAT, EVEN THOUGH THROUGHOUT WE HAVE THOSE TEMPORARY TEES.

UM, THE, THE BUZZ AROUND THERE HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT, UM, TO SEE THAT OPEN BACK UP.

SO IT'S EXCITING THAT THAT PROJECT IS DONE COMPLETED.

UM, WE FINISHED THE DEN TREE REMOVALS IN LONG BEACH AS WELL, UM, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

UM, SO THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

I SUBMITTED THE PROJECTS, OR EXCUSE ME, THE PARKING LOT PROJECT, UM, TO LORI, UM, TO GET ALL FIVE PARKING LOTS, UH, DONE HERE IN LONG BEACH.

AND THAT WILL BE VERY WELL RECEIVED ONCE WE GET THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALKS AROUND PARKING LOTS, HOLES IN PARKING LOTS, JUST A DETERIORATED CONCRETE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED.

UM, SO THAT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING ON THAT PROJECT, BUT I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL LOOK AND FEEL OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE, TO THE GOLF COURSES.

UM, THE CROSSWALK AND BLINKING LIGHTS.

I GOT AN EMAIL FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM THAT WE ARE OKAY TO PROCEED AND MOVE FORWARD, UH, FOR THE BLINKING LIGHTS AND THE MEDIANS AT SKY LINKS TO GET THOSE DONE.

UM, AND SO I HAVE THE THREE BIDS ON THOSE, SO I'LL SUBMIT THOSE TO THE CITY THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, UH, TO GET THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S STILL PROBABLY EVEN AFTER CITY APPROVAL.

YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH PERMITTING AND, AND STAGING WITH, UM, UH, THE CITY AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR ROAD CLOSURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THOSE ARE THE IMMEDIATE, UH, CAPEX PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

UM, I DO WANNA DISCUSS ONE THAT I'LL BRING UP HERE AT THE END OF MY REPORT, UM, ABOUT RECREATION PARK.

UM, BUT THE NEXT PHASE WE'LL GO TO IS THE LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL.

SO SINCE WE'VE HAD OUR LAST MEETING, THE SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP WAS SOLD OUT, UH, THE MEN'S CITY CHALLENGE SOLD OUT, UH, MATCH PLAY HAD 78 PLAYERS.

THE FINALS ARE THIS SATURDAY AT 8:00 AM UH, FINAL TWO PLAYERS WILL, WILL, UH, BATTLE TILL THE END.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

THE LADIES ARE SITTING AT ABOUT 40 PLAYERS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ABOUT EVEN WHERE IT WAS LAST YEAR.

UH, THE JUNIORS HAD A RUSH OF SIGNUPS, UM, OVER THIS LAST MONDAY, TUESDAY.

THEY'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 30 RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ABOUT 10 SHORT, BUT WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER MONTH OF SIGNUPS FOR THEM.

UM, MEN CITY CHAMPIONSHIP, I THINK WE'RE AT 90, I THINK WE'RE AT 92.

UM, SO WE, WE IMAGINE NOT HAVING A PROBLEM SELLING OUT THE MEN CITY CHAMPIONSHIP.

UM, THE LONG BEACH OPEN, UH, WE'RE ON PACE, UH, WITH THE SAME SIGNUPS AS PRIOR YEAR.

UH, BETWEEN JUNE AND THE OPENING OF THE TOURNAMENT OR THE CLOSING OF REGISTRATION LAST YEAR, WE HAD LIKE 130 SIGNUPS IN ALMOST TWO MONTHS.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE A BIG PUSH THIS YEAR TO, TO GET THE SAME AS WE DID LAST YEAR AND UH, HOPEFULLY SELL OUT TO 150.

UM, BUT OVERALL IT'S GOING WELL.

UH, WE HAD SOME HICCUPS WITH GOLF GENIUS AT THE BEGINNING, BUT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THOSE AND, UM, MOVING FORWARD THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN GOING GREAT.

UM, AND OVERALL THE COURSES ARE DOING WELL.

WE ARE BUSY.

THE GRASS IS STARTING TO GROW FASTER.

WE'RE KNEE DEEP IN SUMMER.

WE HAD SOME LIGHTNING THAT WE CLOSED THE COURSE DOWN ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT

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ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK, WHICH WAS, UM, RARE, BUT WE HAD TO ENTER THE COURSES AND THEN GET EVERYBODY BACK OUT AND WANTED TO GO BACK OUT.

UM, BUT ALL IN ALL, EVERYTHING'S GOOD.

WE'RE ALMOST A FULL STAFF ON THE CREW.

I THINK I'M SHORT ONE PERSON AND WE'RE HIRING TWO MECHANICS IN THE REGION, WHICH IS REALLY GONNA HELP, UM, WITH SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT.

MECHANICS ARE JUST REALLY HARD TO FIND RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT, UM, PRIVATE EVENTS ARE SLOW AT RECREATION PARK IN EL DORADO.

UM, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE DOWN $200,000 AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, OVERALL, BUT I THINK SKYLIGHTS IS GONNA BE POTENTIALLY UP 200,000 AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO I IMAGINE WE'LL PROBABLY STILL LAND AT THE SAME PRIVATE EVENT NUMBER RIGHT AROUND 2.8 TO $3 MILLION IN PRIVATE EVENTS FOR THE YEAR.

UM, BUT EVERYTHING'S GOING GOOD.

ROCK AND ROLLING.

UM, THE ONLY CIP PROJECT THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I COULD BRING A DIAGRAM OF IT TODAY.

I'M HAPPY TO SEND IT OUT.

UM, 'CAUSE I OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO GET, UM, BOB'S INTAKE TO THE CARD BARN OR RECREATION PARK IS A SAFETY HAZARD TO SAY THE LEAST.

UM, IT'S BEEN ADDED ONTO OVER THE YEARS.

IT'S BEEN EXPANDED OVER THE YEARS AND THE DOORS HAVE FALLEN OFF AND THE ROOF IS HORRIBLE.

BUT TO REPLACE THE ROOF, YOU'D HAVE TO FIX SOME INTERNAL WALLS TO FIX SOME INTERNAL WALLS.

YOU'RE GETTING INTO JUST A MASSIVE PROJECT.

SO WE HAVE A, UH, QUICKLY SKETCHED PLAN TO POTENTIALLY EXTEND THE DRIVEWAY OUT HEADING TOWARDS THE PUTTING GREEN LEFT OF 16, EXTEND THE DRIVEWAY, MAKE IT BE A LEFT TURN THERE OFF OF UH, I GUESS THAT'D BE STOOP MAGEN, MAKE A LEFT TURN INTO THE MAIN PARKING LOT.

THE NEW CART BARN WOULD BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE BY THE PALM TREES LEFT OF 15 OR YES, LEFT OF 15 RIGHT OF THE DRIVEWAY.

AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY EXTEND THE DRIVING RANGE FOR RECREATION PARK TO ABOUT 30 SAWS ON THE DRIVING RANGE.

NEW ELEVATION THINGS WILL BE DROPPED DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO THAT NOT AS EASY TO HIT OVER THE BACK NET INTO THE TENNIS COURTS IF SOME PEOPLE ARE USING THE WRONG GOLF BALLS.

UM, GETTING RID OF THE PRACTICE BUMPER ON THE LEFT SIDE, ESSENTIALLY EXTENDING THE DRIVING RANGE, THE DRIVING RANGE NETTING AND EVERYTHING OFF THE LEFT SIDE.

UM, AND UH, WE'RE GONNA WANNA SUBMIT THAT PROJECT IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET THAT ON THE CAPEX LIST FOR POTENTIALLY THE FIRST QUARTER OR BEGINNING OF THE SECOND QUARTER IN 2026.

I HAVE A DIAGRAM I CAN SHOW YOU IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO BRING IT UP.

DO YOU HAVE, UH, SOME BALLPARK GUESS OF THE COST? SO WE'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME SIZE CART BARN AT TWO OTHER COURSES ON EAST COAST AND THEY'RE ROUGHLY 250 TO 300,000.

SO IF WE END UP EXPANDING THE STREET AND EXPANDING THE DRIVER RANGE, WE'RE THINKING IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 800.

BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL CONSENSUS IS ON HOW MUCH WE WANT TO ADD, YOU KNOW, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MOVING THE STREET AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE CAN PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THAT WOULD BE VERY CLOSE ON THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE COULD GET REAL QUICK, GARY, UNLESS YOU WANT, UNLESS LIKE YOU ARE OKAY WITH ME ATTACHING THAT TO THE MEETING MINUTES, I WOULD HOLD THAT UNTIL THE UM, NEXT MEETING.

'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS FOR THE CIP P MM-HMM .

RIGHT? OR SO THAT'LL BE AT THE DECEMBER MEETING, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I WOULD HOLD OFF ON THAT, BRING IT TO THE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

THAT WE'LL CREATE NEXT TIME AND THEN BRING IT TO, OKAY.

IF THAT'S OKAY, I CAN DO THAT TOO.

THOUGHT IN THE AIR, THE AD HOC, WE'D, WE'D WANT TO SET THAT IN MOTION BEFORE THE NEXT GAP MEETING OR A AFTER THE SEPTEMBER.

AFTER THE NEXT, AFTER THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

THAN THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

OKAY.

QUESTION ON THAT PROPOSED PROJECT START TO FINISH.

DO YOU THINK SIX WEEKS TO EIGHT WEEKS TO GET THAT DONE? NO LONGER MONTHS.

PROBABLY THREE TO SIX MONTHS.

BUT IF YOU DO IT THE OTHER WAY, YOU HAVE TO BUILD A TEMPORARY CARD BARN, RIGHT? TEMPORARY POWER, TEMPORARY SECURITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BLOCK OFF PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WHEREAS THIS ONE YOU CAN BUILD EVERYTHING OFF SITE FOR THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE THE CARD BARN ON THE ROAD SET.

PHASE TWO WOULD BE THE DRIVING RANGE.

SO, AND NO, SO YOU'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE PROJECT, BUT STILL NOTHING HERE FOR THE MAINTENANCE YARD, WHICH IS JUST A DISASTER.

THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE IS

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ON THE LIST TO START GETTING BIDS FOR AND POTENTIALLY UPGRADING THE ENTIRE PERIMETER FENCING.

BUT THE FENCING IS, WAS NOT APPROVED ON A PROJECT, BUT POTENTIALLY COULD BE ADDED FOR SAFETY AND PROTECTION OF THE PROPERTY.

DID I CATCH THAT CORRECTLY? THAT IT WOULD ADD 30 STALLS TO THE DRIVING RANGE? IT WOULD INCREASE TO 30 STALLS.

INCREASE TO 30 STALLS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW? 16.

OKAY.

SO IT'S ABOUT DOUBLE .

SOME ALL THAT WOULD BE COOL, WOULDN'T IT? YEAH.

.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR GARY? THE, UM, JUST FYI, THE UM, LONG BEACH CALL FESTIVAL, PLAYING BEHIND THE QUALIFIER FOR THE MATCH PLAY.

BRUTAL.

THE PLAN BEHIND THE QUALIFIER, PLAYING BEHIND THEM.

OH, PACE PLAY AND I CAN SEE THAT AND, UM, JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

SEE THAT? YEAH.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY 80 OF THEM.

WELL, NO, THAT'S IT.

WHAT WAS THE T INTERVAL FOR THE MATCH PRICE? JUST CURIOUS.

EVERYTHING'S NINE STONE NINE FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO MANY THANKS WITH THAT.

WE HAD A MOTION FROM MEMBER YOUNG, A SECOND FROM MEMBER BARRETT, AND I THINK WE'RE READY TO CALL THE ROLL CHAIR.

FITZ? YES.

VICE CHAIR INGS? YES.

MEMBER ELY? YES.

MEMBER BARRETT? YES.

MEMBER YOUNG? YES.

OKAY.

MANY THANKS THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND IF APPROPRIATE, RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE PROPOSED GOLF FEES AND CHARGES SCHEDULED FOR 20 25, 20 26 AS ENDORSED BY FEES AND CHARGES.

AD HOC COMMITTEE.

SORRY, WE, OH, THAT'S NOT ON THIS, UH, AGENDA.

OKAY.

I WAS GONNA SAY I DON'T, UM, AS I'M READING THIS, I'M THINKING, I DON'T REMEMBER.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

UM, THIS AGENDA IS NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE SCRIPT, SO, UM, MOVE.

SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS.

AND IF APPROPRIATE, RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE UPDATED GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL AS ENDORSED BY THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AD HOC COMMITTEE.

AND WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION.

MOTION FOR MEMBER ELEY? SECOND.

SECOND FOR MEMBER KINS.

AND WE HAVE, UH, MEMBER RICHES NOW HERE.

SENATOR, LATE MEMBER.

SORRY.

.

THAT'S GREAT.

A LITTLE COMPLICATION.

YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THE, THIS AGENDA WITH THE SCRIPT AND I HAD HAD AN EXTRA ITEM HERE, SO MY APOLOGIES.

UM, OKAY.

AND THEN SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE, UM, I THINK THIS WOULD BE, LORI, DO YOU WANT TO OPEN AND THEN YEAH, I'LL JUST DISCUSSION BRIEFLY OPEN, UM, UH, TO SAY THAT, UH, OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE NOW AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, TOOK LEADERSHIP ON THIS PROJECT, UM, A BIT AGO.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A WHILE AND I APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF YOU THAT YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ONLY RECENTLY RECEIVED IT.

SO IF MORE TIME IS NEEDED WITH IT, UM, THEN THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

WE COULD HOLD IT OVER TO, TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.

UM, BUT I'LL LET, UH, VICE CHAIR KONKING TALK ABOUT KIND OF OUR PROCESS AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE UPDATES WE MADE.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE MET, WE HAVE FOUR MEETINGS INTO THIS, I THINK.

SO YEAH, WE HAVE FOUR MEETINGS INTO THIS ALONG WITH GARY AND LORI AND JUST GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE AND, AND LOOKING AT THINGS THAT WERE, DID THEY NEED TO STAY? DID THEY NOT NEED TO STAY? WERE THEY DATED? DID THEY NEED TO UPDATE? I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF REDLINING.

GARY HAD A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS AND, AND, AND SITTING THEM IN THE PUBLIC SECTION ABOUT LIVINGSTONE HAD SOME GREAT, UH, FEEDBACK AND, AND HELPING THAT.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD DOCUMENT WE CAN GO TO AS LONG AS THE COMMITTEE HAS READ IT AND UNDERSTANDS IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NICE, NICE SECTION, NICE PUBLICATION TO HAVE AND A DOCUMENT TO HAVE THAT IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE CAN POINT TO THIS.

THE GOLFERS CAN POINT TO

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IT, THE CITY CAN POINT TO IT.

AMERICAN GOLF CAN POINT TO IT AND HAS SOME ANSWERS.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD DOCUMENT.

SO DID ANYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THIS SINCE LAST NIGHT THAT NEED TO READ IT? FIRST THING I WAS GONNA SAY IS I APPRECIATE THE IDEA.

WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA TIME BECAUSE I, I SKIMMED IT, BUT IT'S A, IT IS A, IT IS A LONG DOCUMENT TO GO THROUGH.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

MAYBE YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF THE KEY CHANGES.

'CAUSE I WAS, I SORT OF HAD THE OLD DOC AND THE NEW ONE AND YOU KNOW, FROM SORT OF FIRST GLANCE SKIMMING THROUGH IT, I THOUGHT, I'M NOT SURE I CAN EXACTLY IDENTIFY WHAT A COUPLE OF THE MAJOR PROPOSED CHANGES MIGHT BE.

A COUPLE COUPLE MAJOR PROPOSED CHANGES REALLY WAS HOLIDAYS HAVE CHANGED, JUNETEENTH HAS BEEN ADDED.

THAT'S ONE.

UM, REALLY SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IS WHAT IS THE MAJOR CHANGES.

AND UM, A LOT OF IT'S STILL THE SAME FOR THE POINT THE AUDITING, THE PUBLIC RELATIONS IS, IS STILL THERE.

UM, ONE THING WE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, I THINK SOME OF THE PRIVILEGES HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, UH, CITY COLLEGE ISN'T PLAYING ANYMORE.

I THINK WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT, THAT THEY'LL STAY IN HERE IN CASE THEY DO HAVE A TEAM AGAIN.

BUT, UM, THEY REQUEST PRIVILEGES STILL, BUT NOT VERY OFTEN.

SO THERE REALLY WASN'T A LOT OF CHANGES.

OTHER LANGUAGE.

IS THAT CORRECT, GARY? YOU HAVE CERTAIN, THERE WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF LANGUAGE CHANGES ON THE HIGH SCHOOL INFORMATION.

LIKE THE BIG CHANGE ON THAT WAS THEY ASKED FOR FOUR TEE TIMES AND WOULD'VE TO PAY FOR EVERY TIME THEY NEEDED FIVE TEE TIMES.

SO WE JUST PUT, THEY GET FIVE TEE TIMES.

LIKE IT'S MORE FOR US TO GO BACK AND TRY AND CHARGE A HIGH SCHOOL FOR, OH, THEY HAD FIVE TEE TIMES THIS WEEK, BUT THREE THIS WEEK, SO THEY GET FIVE TIMES.

SO WE ADDED ONE TO THAT TO GET RID OF THE CLAUSE WHERE THERE WAS AN EXTRA CHARGE THAT THEY WENT OVER.

THERE WAS A LOT OF OLD LANGUAGE IN REGARDS TO THE, NOW IT'S THE GOLF COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF THE GOLF COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSION.

UM, CHANGING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE ON I MANAGER, MANAGER VERSUS DIRECTOR.

DIRECTOR.

DIRECTOR.

YEAH.

UM, WE ADDED THE SENIOR BEFORE SEVEN, HALF CART IS LOOKING TO BE AFTER 12 AS WELL TO GIVE SENIORS MORE BENEFIT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UM, NOTHING CHANGED WITH TWILIGHT.

I'M TRYING TO FLIP THROUGH IT LIKE A LOT OF THE BIG ONES.

UM, THERE WAS EXHIBITS IN THE BACK FOR COURSE MAINTENANCE THAT WENT THROUGH THE HEIGHT OF CUT, THE AMOUNT OF CUT THE AMOUNT OF VERIFICATION.

AND THE U SGA HAS CHANGED THEIR RULES ON THAT.

NOT RULES, BUT CHANGED THEIR GUIDELINES ON THAT.

IF WE MOWED THE STANDARDS THAT WERE IN THERE, YOU WOULDN'T LIKE TO PLAY.

SO WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE TOOK 'EM.

I THINK WE WERE, I RECOMMEND TAKING 'EM OUT AND WE ADHERE TO ALL THAT.

WE HAVE TO VERIFY TWICE A YEAR.

WE HAVE TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

BUT THE WAY THE USGA HAD IN THIS, IN THIS DOCUMENT 30 YEARS AGO, JUST, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR TODAY'S GONNA BEST PRACTICES.

WE MOWED GREENS AT A HUNDREDTH OF AN INCH, WHEREAS THEY WANTED US TO MOW AT A 16TH AN INCH.

LIKE BIG CHANGES LIKE THAT.

QUARTER INCH, THREE EIGHTS.

YEAH.

UM, WE UPDATED, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSES, PHONE NUMBERS, TOURNAMENT POLICIES.

WE WENT FROM 16 PEOPLE FOR A TOURNAMENT TO 24.

UM, NO TOURNAMENTS ON THE WEEKENDS.

STILL DURING THE WEEK IS STILL, UM, I THINK 8:00 AM THE WEEKENDS ARE STILL 10.

UM, LEAGUES DIDN'T CHANGE.

UH, LIKE I SAID THAT NOTHING REALLY LIKE I, THIS IS GONNA CHANGE GOLF FOREVER.

IT'S MORE OR LESS THAT IT, IT UPDATES THE PROGRAM THAT IT'S EASIER TO READ AND EASIER TO UNDERSTAND TODAY'S LANGUAGE IN TODAY'S LANGUAGE AS WE WILL GOLF COURSE ETIQUETTE, SOME OTHER THINGS UPDATED.

UM, UH, YEAH, I CAN WE SEND OUT THE RED LINE ONE? I THINK SO.

EVEN IF IT'S LIKE A PDF WITH THE RED LINES OFF TO THE SIDE.

MM-HMM .

YEAH, THAT COULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STUFF IN HERE ABOUT, UM, I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT THE OLD MANAGERS OF THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAD TO COMBINE BECAUSE OH YEAH, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO, THERE USED TO BE A SEPARATE LESSEE FOR,

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FOR THE RESTAURANT OR CONCESSIONS THAT REFERRED TO CONCESSION.

THERE IS SOME CASES.

SO JUST CLEANING UP LANGUAGE LIKE THAT TO REFLECT THAT THERE IS ONE LESSEE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND ALL THE TREE TRIMMING AND WILDLIFE.

BUT NONE OF THAT CHANGED.

I KEPT THE CITY POLICIES IN, EXCEPT I TOOK OUT SOME OF THE CITY LANGUAGE THAT JUST DOESN'T REFLECT LIKE HOW WE'RE STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW.

BUT, UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A TBD ON STATING THAT.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE CITY ORDINANCE.

PROPOSED CITY ORDINANCE ON SMOKING IN CERTAIN AREAS.

WILL THAT NEED TO BE IN HERE? SO I DID TENTATIVELY UM, AND I GUESS WE MAY WANNA MAKE A CAVEAT IF AND WHEN WE APPROVE THIS, UM, THERE, I SHOULD HAVE KEPT THAT HIGHLIGHTED.

THERE IS A PHRASE IN THERE THAT REFERENCES NO ADHERING TO NO SMOKING OR SOMETHING.

I'LL, SORRY, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THAT WAS AND THEN MAKE A NOTE OF IT SO THAT, UM, WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT AND THEN ADD IT IN OR AS NEEDED.

RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU FOR, I THINK YOU DID PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.

YEAH, IT'S, IT, IT'S ON PAGE 37.

I NOTICED THAT IT SAID TENTATIVE APPROVAL GOTCHA.

ON THAT.

SO I GUESS IF, IF WE, IF WE DO END UP DECIDING THAT IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO PROHIBITED ON DRIVING RANGE, SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME LOOKING AT IT, THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT BY THAT POINT.

THAT'S TRUE.

THAT MAY BE ANOTHER REASON TO KIND OF HOLD IT OVER AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE AT.

'CAUSE WE MAY HAVE BETTER DIRECTION THAN, AND THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TWICE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

UM, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS THAT THIS, THE DATES, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS.

UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALWAYS APPROPRIATE TO REEXAMINE THE CURRENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, BUT IS THIS SORT OF A GENERAL TIMEFRAME EVERY FIVE, 10 YEARS THERE'S THIS, THIS PROCESS? OR IS IT, WAS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF STARTED THE PROCESS THIS TIME AROUND AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING ON A, ON A PARTICULAR, UH, TIMEFRAME? WELL, I THINK THE LAST UPDATED WAS 20 12, 16 15 I THINK WHEN MARIE WAS, WHEN MARIE, UH, KNIGHT WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS.

AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN 19 YEARS AGO, 10 YEARS AGO.

SO IT WAS JUST YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK IT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT ON OUR REGULAR LIKE EVERY FIVE YEARS TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S SORT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS COME UP AND WE REALIZE THAT IT'S OUT OF DATE, JUST LIKE TAKING A LOOK AT IT, WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE OTHER CHANGES.

I, I KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN VERSIONS WHERE THERE ARE CHANGES MADE, LIKE WITH NOTES IN IT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE THIS WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN, JUST TO UPDATE LIKE EASIER THINGS.

BUT I THINK WE WERE DOING SUCH A WHOLESALE LOOK AT IT THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF START FROM SCRATCH.

SO I THOUGHT WE KIND OF PUT IT WITH THE, UH, RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT FOR THE AMERICAN GOLF.

UM, NO OTHER CONTRACTS JUST 20, 29, 0 20.

I WAS THINKING WE WANTED TO GET IT REVIEWED BEFORE THEN.

THIS ONE WAS MORE, LET'S GET IT TO WHERE WE ARE AT THE STATE OF THE STATE OF TODAY.

YEAH.

MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T UPDATE THIS, THE EXHIBITS WERE OFF, THE EXHIBITS DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS AND UPDATE 'EM FOR WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO NOW.

AND THE PROCEDURES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE NOW.

'CAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TEE TIMES ESSENTIALLY OVER THE PHONE MEET DAYS OUT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ON THE INTERNET, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IF YOU NEED TO CALL AND MAKE A TEE TIME, UPDATED TEE TIME, YOU CAN.

BUT 99% OF OUR TEE TIMES WERE MADE ONLINE AND IT, IT REFERENCED STUFF FROM YEARS AGO AND IT'S JUST NOT SHOULD, NOT FEASIBLE.

I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY FEASIBLE.

IT'S NOT, NOT THERE ANYMORE.

.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE, THE COMMITTEE FOR TAKING THIS PROJECT ON.

I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

AND THANK YOU LORI AND, AND GARY FOR ALL BEING INVOLVED IN, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I THINK BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PRETTY DENSE BOOK AND THERE'S A LOT TO GO THROUGH, UM, AND BASED ON I GUESS SOME, FOR EXAMPLE THAT THE, THE TENTATIVE, UM, SMOKING BAN AND SO ON.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT I'M CURIOUS HOW THE COMMITTEE FEELS ABOUT POTENTIALLY LOOKING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY HAVE REVIEWED THE, THE DOCUMENT AND, AND MAYBE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

WE WOULD NEED A, AN, AN ALTERNATE MOTION.

I THINK WITHOUT THE SMOKING IN THERE.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO, I THINK THAT NEEDS

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TO BE IN THERE.

YEAH.

AND I THINK YOU'LL, AS YOU READ THROUGH IT, IT, IT READS REALLY SMOOTH.

I KNOW I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT AS WE DID IT, IT WAS INTERESTING TO WATCH WHAT DISAPPEARED AND WHAT APPEARED AND MM-HMM .

I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION, LET ME WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD MEETING.

SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A, A SECOND TO HOLD.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, TO HOLD THIS RECOMMENDATION AND TO, AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.

AND I, THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO READING THROUGH IT ALL VERY THOROUGHLY.

AND, UM, SHOULD WE VOTE? I THINK WE'RE READY.

OKAY.

SORRY.

DID YOU HAVE A SECOND? WE DID.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MEMBER BARRETT A SECOND FOR MEMORY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.

VICE CHAIR CRONK KINGS.

YES.

MEMBER ELY.

YES.

MEMBER BARRETT.

YES.

MEMBER RICCI.

YES.

MEMBER YOUNG.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

SO THE MOTION WAS TO HOLD THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE GOLF OPERATIONS MANUAL UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN WE HAVE A, THE, THE, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTION.

AND THIS THREW ME JUST A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I THINK IT WE'RE, WE'RE ONE MEETING EARLIER, BUT IT MADE GOOD SENSE TO ME THAT, UM, RATHER THAN HAVE POTENTIALLY SOME AWKWARDNESS WITH WHO IS RUNNING THE MEETING, WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE THE ELECTION, UH, ONE MEETING IN ADVANCE, BUT AT THE END OF THIS MEETING SO THAT THE, THE, THE OFFICERS ARE IN PLACE WHEN THE NEXT MEETING BEGINS.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UM, I'M, I'M SORRY TO BE OUT OF ORDER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE TO EVERYBODY THAT IN THE BYLAWS, UM, UH, UH, CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR SERVE A TERM OF ONE YEAR, WHICH RUNS FROM JULY THROUGH JUNE.

UM, BUT YOU CAN, THEY CAN SERVE TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN NOMINATIONS AND I WILL READ THIS, UH, PARTICULAR SCRIPT FOR, FOR THIS ITEM, I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE CHAIR OF THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON PER CHAIR.

THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND AND YOU CAN NOMINATE YOURSELF.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND WE'LL, NOW BEFORE NOMINATE, WE KEEP OUR CURRENT STATUS FOR ONE MORE YEAR.

I AGREE.

I SAY SAME.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A, UH, BARRETT AND YOUNG, DO WE NEED TO, HOW DOES THIS WORK IN TERMS OF AN ACTUAL, UH, I THINK THE CLERK YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR JUST THE CHAIR.

YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL DO CHAIR.

AND SO WE HAVE ONE NOMINATION FOR CHAIR FITZGERALD TO CONTINUE AS CHAIR FOR ONE MORE YEAR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR SPECIFICALLY? NO, NO.

I MEAN, I WOULD NOMINATE.

OKAY.

SORRY.

OKAY.

SO THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.

OH, SORRY.

THAT'S YOU.

OKAY.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.

I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED FOR CHAIR AND I WILL CALL THE NOMINEE TO SPEAK.

AND, UM, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, .

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT THIS YEAR WITH THESE SCRIPTS AND SO ON.

SO I THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME AND WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS AND HOPEFULLY GETTING JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER EACH TIME.

STILL SOME, UH, SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD, BUT, UH, MANY THANKS.

AND, UH, I WOULD ACCEPT, UH, NOMINATION FOR, FOR ONE MORE YEAR IF THAT, UH, DOES WORK OUT.

SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, I, WE, WE HAVE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M LOOKING OVER THERE AND WAITING FOR SOMEBODY.

THE PUBLIC SAYS, GOD BLESS YOU.

SO NOW I THINK WE'RE READY TO CALL THE, THE VOTE FOR ONE MORE YEAR FOR THE CHAIR.

CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR HONKING? YES.

MEMBER ILEY.

YES.

MEMBER BARRETT.

YES.

MEMBER RICCI.

YES.

MEMBER YOUNG.

YES.

OKAY.

MANY THANKS.

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO VICE CHAIR.

SO I NOW DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR VICE CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE

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A SECOND.

AND THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS.

UH, NOMINATE CON.

CON.

YEAH, I SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

MANY THANKS.

AND NOW I'LL, UH, GIVE OUR NOMINEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

THANK YOU.

I WILL SERVE THE ELECTED.

GOOD.

OKAY.

MANY THANKS.

AND PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

, HEARING NONE, BUT SEEING SOME.

I'VE WANTED A LONGER SPEECH FROM LARRY .

OKAY.

I BELIEVE WE ARE READY TO, UH, CALL THE VOTE.

OKAY.

CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.

VICE CHAIR CRONK KINGS.

YES.

MEMBER ELY? YES.

MEMBER BARRETT? YES.

MEMBER RICCI.

YES.

MEMBER YOUNG.

YES.

MOTION.

CARRIE? OKAY.

MANY THANKS.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, MOVING ON TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON NON-AG AGENDA ITEMS. AND DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? I JUST, FOR, I I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS UNDER THE DISCUSSION OF THE, UM, MANUAL, WE ADDED, UM, GOOD FRIDAY BECAUSE WE WERE DESPERATE FOR MORE HOLIDAYS AND MORE REVENUE.

I, AT THE TIME I RECALL IT WAS LISTED AS A STATE HOLIDAY UNTIL NOON.

IT'S NO LONGER LISTED AS A STATE OF CALIFORNIA HOLIDAY.

SO I WOULD CONSIDER REMOVING GOOD FRIDAY, PARTICULARLY SINCE YOU HAD A JUNETEENTH.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

IT'S NO LONGER LISTED, IT'S NOT LISTED IN A STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS A, AS A HOLIDAY.

I DON'T THINK IT'S LISTED FEDERALLY EITHER.

THE MARKET IS CLOSED, BUT, UH, AT ONE POINT IT WAS LISTED AS A HOLIDAY UNTIL NOON.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN TWO O'CLOCK.

BUT TECHNICALLY IT WAS, IF YOU'RE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO I BELIEVE VOTING DAY IN THERE.

SO THANK YOU.

AND WE ALSO USED TO HAVE, UH, ADMISSIONS DAY FOR THE STATE WAS A HOLIDAY, I BELIEVE THE CITY.

AUGUST 9TH I THINK WAS ADMISSIONS DAY.

I THINK THERE WAS A CITY INCORPORATION DAY AND WHAT WAS ONCE UPON A TIME CALLED COLUMBUS.

MANY THANKS.

OH, THERE'S A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, .

WELL, I'M GOING TO, UNLESS YOU PLAN TO ANNOUNCE A CERTAIN EVENT ON JULY 8TH, NOT FAR FROM HERE AT LAKEWOOD.

I I, I'LL COMMENT ON THAT, BUT IF YOU, SO I'M JOGGING YOUR MEMORY.

OH YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO ONCE YOU DO IT UNDER ANNOUNCEMENTS, THAT'S THE PLAN.

THAT'S MY COMMENT.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I DO HAVE ONE, BUT ANYONE HAS ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FIRST? OKAY, MANY THANKS.

SO THERE IS A CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY GOLF SUMMIT NOW SCHEDULED FOR JULY 8TH.

IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT HERE, UH, IN OUR BACKYARD AT, AT LAKEWOOD.

IT BEGINS AT NINE O'CLOCK.

UM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING A GREAT EVENT.

THERE'S A LANDING PAGE THAT THE SCGA HELPED PUT TOGETHER IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, PARTICIPATING.

UM, THE SCGA HAS, UH, SECURED A A A NUMBER OF SEATS.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, WE HAVE A, A CODE FOR YOU TO GET, UM, ACCESS AT NO CHARGE.

AND THEN THE SAME IS, UH, UH, GOES FOR, FOR ALL PARK STAFF.

UM, SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE INFORMATION.

UM, IT SHOULD BE A, IT IS AN INTERESTING AGENDA.

I CAN AT LEAST SHARE THE, THE LINK TO THE LANDING PAGE THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT, WHAT IS ON, ON THE DOCKET FOR THAT DAY.

AND IF YOU CAN, OR IF YOU, UH, IF YOU, IF THERE ARE OTHERS THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTED, UM, WE CERTAINLY LOVE TO HAVE EVERYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE IN ATTENDANCE, USE ONE OF OUR CODES AND, AND BE THERE.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

JULY 8TH.

JULY 8TH.

GOOD.

INTERESTING AGENDA.

I THINK IT'S DYNAMIC.

IT'S GOOD.

IT'S, IT IS A COLLABORATION AMONG A LOT OF THE ALLIED GOLF LEADERSHIP ORGANIZATION.

MM-HMM .

SO.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER OPTIONS? WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? IT'S CALLED THE GOLF SUMMIT.

THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY GOLF SUMMIT.

SUMMIT.

IF YOU WENT, IF YOU HAPPEN TO ATTEND THE, ONE OF THE WATER SUMMITS A COUPLE YEARS AGO DURING THE DROUGHT, IT'S SORT OF IN THAT VEIN IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURE.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I THINK AT 3:15 PM WE WILL, UH, CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.

PERFECT.