* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:09:51] UM, [00:09:51] WE'LL CALL TO ORDER. [CALL TO ORDER] THE TIME IS, UH, THREE 10. [ROLL CALL] [00:10:01] ROLL CALL. UH, MY MIC SEEMS REALLY LOUD. IS THERE A WAY TO TURN IT DOWN? PUSH IT AWAY FROM YOU? UH, I, I WILL, I'LL JUST PUSH IT AWAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. IF YOU CAN DO THE ROLL CALL . COMMISSIONER WEISS HERE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? HERE. COMMISSIONER MORALES? HERE. COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS. HERE. COMMISSIONER NOVE. I THINK HE'S ON MUTE. IS HE ON MUTE? COMMISSIONER NOVE? CAN YOU HEAR US? YEAH. HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. UM, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LATE. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR P*****K. HERE WE HAVE CORUM. DOESN'T NOR HAVE TO READ THE STATEMENT. UM, THIS MEETING WILL FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF AB 2, 4, 4 9, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND AND ADDRESS THIS BODY VIA A CALL IN OPTION, AN INTERNA INTERNET BASED SERVICE OPTION. AND IN PERSON AT THIS MEETING AS REFERENCED WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA, COMMISSIONER NOVE WILL NOW READ A PREPARED STATEMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH AB 2 4 49. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU, CHAIR. PURSUANT TO AB 2, 4, 4, 9, I HAVE JUST CAUSED CIRCUMSTANCES AUTHORIZING MY REMOTE PARTICIPATION IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING. I HAVE A CONTAGIOUS ILLNESS, WHICH PREVENTS ME FROM ATTENDING IN PERSON. THERE IS NO ONE 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER IN THE ROOM WITH ME. THANK YOU. UM, AND, UH, I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO NOTE THAT BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE THE MEETING IS PARTIALLY ONLINE, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ORALLY. UH, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE ONLINE, UH, VOTING PROCESS. SAME FOR MOVING AND SECONDING, OR DO WE DO THAT ONLINE? EVERYTHING ONLINE OR, UH, VERBALLY. UH, I'M SORRY. YES, . THANK YOU. UH, AND WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. [1. 25-55472 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Ethics Commission meeting of Wednesday, May 14, 2025.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, MAY 14TH, 2025. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOVED? I SECOND. OKAY. SO THAT WAS A MOTION BY, UH, MORALES AND A SECOND BY, UH, DE BE. THANK YOU. AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? AND IS THERE ANY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE IN THE ZOOM CHAT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW. SCENE NONE. WE WILL MOVE TO VOTE. COMMISSIONER WISE. AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES? AYE. COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS? AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVA. AYE. UH, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. CHAIR P*****K. AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, UH, OKAY. RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND [2. 25-55473 Recommendation to receive and file, and if necessary, provide feedback to the City of Long Beach’s Framework for Ethical Decision Making.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FILE AND IF NECESSARY, PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I WILL SECOND. AND, UH, HEATHER, WILL YOU BE PRESENTING? YES. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, SO BACK IN APRIL, MARCOLA, UM, PRESENTED A POSSIBLE FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING THAT THE CITY, UM, COULD CONSIDER AS WELL AS A TRAINING THAT COULD ACCOMPANY THAT FRAMEWORK. UM, SO WE'VE PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE THINK, UM, IS A GREAT FRAMEWORK. THIS IS BASED ON MARCO'S RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS BASED ON CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD WITH, UM, THE COMMISSION DURING THAT ITEM IN APRIL. THERE WERE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ETHICAL LENSES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN, UH, I THINK THERE, THERE WERE THE BETTER PART OF 10 THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FOR OUR FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING. I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL THAT, [00:15:02] UH, SUGGESTED POSSIBLY HAVING OUR ETHICAL LENSES, UM, USE OUR OWN VALUES, UM, AS THE FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY TRIED TO DO. UM, WE'VE CREATED THE FRAMEWORK. UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST COLUMN, YOU'LL SEE HOW TO RECOGNIZE AN ETHICAL ISSUE. THE NEXT GET THE FACTS. THEN WE HAVE OUR ETHICAL LENSES. UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE SIX DIFFERENT VALUES THAT YOU'LL FIND IN THE CITY'S CODE OF CONDUCT AND ETHICS. UM, THEN WE GET TO THE DECISION AND TESTING IT, AND THEN REFLECTIONS ON THE OUTCOME. AND THIS IS ALWAYS A REPEATING PROCESS. UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE, PRETTY HIGH LEVEL, BUT THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE, UM, WOULD USE AS A FRAMEWORK. AND THEN WE'VE STARTED, UM, WE'RE JUST ABOUT DONE BUILDING OUT THE ACTUAL TRAINING, UH, THAT WILL GO WITH THE FRAMEWORK. UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE WE DISCUSSED IN APRIL, THAT TRAINING, AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT TRAINING WILL BE THE DIFFERENT CASE STUDIES, DIFFERENT CASE APPLICATIONS. SO WE ARE ALSO BUILDING OUT A LIBRARY OF DIFFERENT, UM, CASES THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO DIFFERENT EMPLOYEE GROUPS. UM, I'M LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER WISE WHEN I SAY THAT. 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN APRIL. AND I THINK WE ALL COLLECTIVELY AGREED THAT CASE APPLICATIONS ARE GONNA BE VERY DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE GROUP OF EMPLOYEES THAT YOU ARE, UH, TRAINING. UM, SO ANYHOW, THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. AND AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING ON FINALIZING THE ACTUAL TRAINING AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO BRING THAT FORWARD WHEN THAT IS DONE. UM, SO WE'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE. AND THIS WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ALREADY SAID IT, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE ACTUAL INFOGRAPHIC THAT THIS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL TRAINING, BUT THEN THIS WOULD ALSO BE A STANDALONE, UM, RESOURCE THAT WE'LL USE OUTSIDE OF THE TRAINING. I'LL GO AHEAD. UM, IT, I THINK IT LOOKS VERY GOOD. UM, I THINK, UH, I'VE, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DECISION MAKING. I THINK MORE CONCISE AND SHORTER IS ALWAYS BEST, UH, IF YOU WANT IT TO REALLY BE, UM, UH, KIND OF AN EASY THING OR SOMETHING EASY TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH A POSTER, ET CETERA. UH, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU NEED AND I LIKE THAT, THAT WE'VE, UH, INTEGRATED THE VALUES AND ET CETERA. UM, THE LAST COLUMN, ACT AND REFLECT. UM, SOMETIMES INACTION IS AN OP IS AN OPTION. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE I HAVE ANYTHING TO PROPOSE TO REPLACE THAT, BUT, UM, UM, IT'S A REALLY, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE DECISION AND THEN ACT AND REFLECT WHETHER IT'S, UM, MAYBE WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, WORD IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TO, TO REFLECT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION IS ALL I'M LOOKING FOR. UH, BUT I THINK, UH, IT'S NOT EASY TO COME UP WITH THESE 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OPTIONS OUT THERE. UH, BUT I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. MAYBE JUST CHANGE THAT LAST COLUMN TO REFLECT ON THE OUTCOME AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS WHAT, IF ANY FOLLOW-UP ACTION SHOULD I TAKE OR ARE ANY NECESSARY, WHICH GETS TO YOUR POINT. ALRIGHT. I LIKE THAT. VERY NICE. WE WORK WELL TOGETHER. THE TEAM ALWAYS ASK, IS THERE ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION? COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL, UH, THANK YOU. UH, I REALLY LIKE THE FRAMEWORK, HEATHER, TO COMMISSIONER DE BEES' POINT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT YOU COULD EVEN MAKE IT A LITTLE PIER OR WHERE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, SAY, GET THE FACTS WHERE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. MAYBE AN IN, UH, MAYBE BREAK THOSE UP BY LINES JUST SO IT'S EASIER ON THE EYE. BUT, UH, I, OR, AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT TO A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE TO LOOK FOR WORDS THAT COULD BE REMOVED. UH, I ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE, IN THESE, IS IT LEGAL? AND THEN I FOUND IT, UH, IN TERMS OF RECOGNIZING THE ISSUE. UM, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IN THE, UH, AND THAT'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST QUESTION I THINK WE ASK IS, IS IT LEGAL? UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S FOUNDATIONAL. BUT, UH, I THINK, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE LEGALITY IS ALSO, UH, ADDRESSED IN THE EVALUATE. AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY STUDY THIS IN DETAIL, SO IT MAY ALREADY BE, BUT THAT'S, UH, WHAT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE. [00:20:02] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LOOKS GREAT THOUGH, COMMISSIONER WISE. YEAH. I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER TOO, USING SOME THINGS FROM THIS AND PUTTING EXAMPLES IN THE, UM, ETHICAL ELEPHANT, BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT GET USED TO JUST LOOKING IN THERE FOR AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO APPLY ETHICS. IF YOU STARTED DOING IT, DOING IT REGULARLY AND REFERRING TO THIS FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS FRAMEWORK, PEOPLE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THE KNOWLEDGE JUST BUILDING UP THAT COMMON IDEA IN THE CITY, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY, UM, A, A GOOD THING TO DO. AND I'M JUST THINKING IN OTHER PUBLICATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN OVER TIME, THEY HAVE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ON SUNDAYS OR WHATEVER, THE MAGAZINE SECTION WILL HAVE SOMETHING ON, YOU KNOW, AN ETHICS COLUMN. AND IT, IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT EVERYDAY LIFE THAT PEOPLE ENCOUNTER. LIKE WHAT IF YOU FIND A $20 BILL ON THE STREET OR THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT YOU DO IT IN TERMS OF PRACTICAL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS, THE CITY OR SITUATIONS. SO, NO, I LOVE IT. YEP. THANK YOU VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. UM, I REALLY LIKE THE POINT THAT COMMISSIONER WISE WAS MAKING ABOUT CONTINUING TO KIND OF REINFORCE, UM, THESE ELEMENTS. UM, AS WELL AS THAT, I THINK HOUSING IT ON OUR ETHICS, UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH ETHICS WEBSITE WOULD ALSO BE SMART. JUST IF SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, GOOGLES US, UH, IT'S RIGHT THERE KIND OF AS A WAY TO SEE OUR FRAMEWORK AND HOW ETHICAL DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE CITY. THANKS, COMMISSIONER. VE DID YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS ITEM? NO. CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER THREE IN, OR I'M SORRY, UH, NUMBER TWO IN THE ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. NOW WE HAVE LEE, CHARLIE, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU WHEN YOU'RE READY. HI, THANK, THANK YOU. ETHICS COMMISSIONERS. AND I, I REALLY APPLAUD THE ETHICS FRAMEWORK. THE ONE THING THAT, UH, A LOT OF US, UM, I WAS PROTESTING SEVEN HOURS YESTERDAY, SO I COULDN'T MAKE THE MEETING, BUT, UM, THE ETHICAL FRAMEWORK IS GREAT, BUT MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN ONE OPEN OR DO THIS ACTUAL FRAMEWORK? HOW, HOW DOES ONE GO ABOUT IT AS AN ETHICS COMMISSIONER NUMBER? AN EXAMPLE IS, UM, THE, THE ETHICS COMMISSION, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD HAVE SUBPOENA POWER SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY EXECUTE AND DO WHAT THIS FRAMEWORK IS LISTING. ALSO, WONDERING IF THE ETHICS COMMISSION ON THEIR WEBSITE COULD DO AN OPEN TRANSPARENCY, THINGS THEY'RE DOING, THINGS THEY'RE INVESTIGATING, THINGS, THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THE RESULTS THAT WOULD BE REALLY A, A ADVISABLE. AND THEN ALSO, UM, WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES IF, IF THIS FRAMEWORK IS VIOLATED? THERE. THERE'S, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD AND LOOKS GREAT ON PAPER, BUT I WOULD ASK ANY OF YOU GUYS LIKE, OKAY, GREAT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE VIOLATES THIS AND, AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THE, THE RECOURSE? AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT IN THE FRAMEWORK, BUT, UM, MAYBE HAVING SOME KIND OF MORE UMPS TO IT. LIKE, WE HAVE SUBPOENA POWER, WE CAN FIND YOU PLAY BY THE RULES OR, OR ELSE, UM, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO RAISE HEATHER. MAYBE WE COULD PUT AN ASTERISK ON OUR WEBSITE INDICATING THAT THE CHARTER IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, DOES NOT PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATIVE SUBPOENA OR PENALTY POWER SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. IT WOULD TAKE A, TAKE A CHARTER AMENDMENT. YES. THANK YOU. I WILL, UM, CONFIRM THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. UH, CHAIR MAY, UH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MORALES, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN AN ASTERISK, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED OUT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, WE CAN MOVE TO A VOTE. OKAY. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER WEISS AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES AYE. COMMISSIONER D BENEDICTUS AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVE AYE. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. AYE. CHAIR P*****K AYE. MOTION CARRIES. [00:25:08] AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE [3. 25-55580 Recommendation to receive and file a quarterly progress report on the Office of Ethics and Transparency’s 5-Year Strategic Roadmap.        Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] AND FILE A QUARTERLY PROGRESS REPORT ON THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY'S FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC ROADMAP. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. THAT WAS A MOTION BY DE BENEDICTUS AND A SECOND BY SHOTWELL. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S OVER TO YOU AGAIN, HEATHER. THANK YOU. CHAIR. YES. SO, UM, I THINK THIS WAS THE MARCH MEETING, UM, WHEN WE LAST PRESENTED ON THE ROADMAP. AND, UH, WE COMMITTED TO QUARTERLY UPDATES. WHAT WE HAD, UM, TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT ITEM EARLIER THIS YEAR IS JUST ESTABLISHING, UH, YEAR ONE PRIORITIES, STUFF THAT WE WILL FOCUS ON, THINGS THAT THE OET TOGETHER WITH THE COMMISSION AND OTHER PARTNERS HOPES TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, THIS INCLUDED ESTABLISHING A FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING, STRENGTHENING OUR INTERDEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION, UM, ENHANCING PUBLIC AND EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT AND ACCESSIBILITY, UM, DEVELOPING FURTHER OUR TRAINING AND EDUCATION BLUEPRINT AND JUST CONTINUING TO ALIGN OUR ETHICS PROGRAMMING WITH CITY OPERATIONS THROUGH, UH, THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS THAT, THAT WE HAVE. I JUST CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THOSE. AND OF COURSE, WORKING WITH THE ETHICS COMMISSION TO, UH, INTEGRATE ANY OUTSTANDING ACTION PLAN ITEMS INTO THIS ROADMAP. SO THAT WAS A HIGH LEVEL, UH, COMMITMENT FOR YEAR ONE AND REALLY THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UM, SO, UH, WITH THIS UPDATE, IT'S JUST SPECIFIC TO MARCH'S, UM, PRESENTATION. SO, UH, PRIORITY ONE AND CULTURE OF ETHICS. UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT WORK STREAMS THAT WE, UM, COMMITTED TO EITHER STARTING, UM, STRATEGIZING ABOUT OR COMPLETING. UH, 1.1 0.2 WAS TO ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP TO CUSTOMIZE THE FRAMEWORK AND ADD QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. UH, SO THAT WORKING GROUP, UH, WAS ESTABLISHED, UM, 1.1 0.3, CONFIRM A CUSTOMIZED FRAMEWORK, UH, DEVELOPED BY STAFF FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT, UM, SOON TO BE, UH, COMPLETED TRAIN THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY ETHICS COMMISSION AND KEY CITY LEADERSHIP ON THE FRAMEWORK THAT'S, UH, WORK STREAM 1.1 0.4. THIS IS PENDING OF COURSE, UH, BASED ON THE, UM, FINALIZATION OF THE FRAMEWORK AND TRAINING. AND OF COURSE, ONE POINT, 1.5 IS TO DEVELOP AND DISSEMINATE, UM, TOOLS FOR THE FRAMEWORK. UM, SO THIS IS IN PROGRESS. UH, AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING ON, UH, FINALIZING THAT TRAINING WORK STREAM 1.2 0.1. UM, ESTABLISH A REGULAR PROCESS OF COORDINATING WITH OTHER AREAS THAT RECEIVE INQUIRIES TO RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS. THIS INCLUDES THE AUDITOR, THE OET, HUMAN RESOURCES. UM, OF COURSE, THE PURPOSE OF THESE MEETINGS IS TO IDENTIFY AND ASSIGN FOLLOW-UP REPORTS SUBMITTED THROUGH VARIOUS PATHWAYS. UM, I PUT IN PROGRESS HERE. WE, UM, THIS GROUP MEETS AS NEEDED. UM, THE HELPLINE IS GETTING INCREASINGLY MORE BUSY. UM, SO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, WE ARE WORKING ON ESTABLISHING A STANDING, UM, MEETING THAT WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. BUT AGAIN, WE DO MEET AS NEEDED, UM, AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING, UM, A MORE CONSISTENT FREQUENCY OF MEETING. 1.2. POINT TWO IS TO DEVELOP A PROCESS FOR COMMUNICATING THE STATUS OF HELPLINE OR ETHICS RELATED HOTLINE REPORTS TO THE WORKFORCE AND THE PUBLIC AS NEEDED. WE'VE COMPLETED THE PROCESS TO. NOW OF COURSE, THERE'S OTHER, AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, REPORT OUT, BUT WE'VE COMPLETED IT IN THAT HELPLINE. REPORTS ARE CURRENTLY COMMUNICATED THROUGH OUR ANNUAL REPORT AND THROUGH THE NEWSLETTER. 1.2 0.3. I DID NOT GIVE A STATUS TO THAT, BUT THAT'S TRACK THE PROGRESS OF OUTCOMES AND SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS AND REPORT RESULTS AS PART OF OUR INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT, UM, IS IN PROGRESS AS THIS IS WILL ALWAYS BE GOING, THAT WILL NEVER HAVE A COMPLETED NEXT TO IT. 1.3 0.3 IS TO REPORT ON THE HELPLINE AND THE FRAUD HOTLINE. UM, WE'VE COMPLETED IT AND THAT THE SCHEDULE FOR THESE UPDATES [00:30:01] HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND IS ONGOING. UM, 1.3 0.4 DRAFT AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ON THE OET AND THE ETHICS COMMISSION THAT SERVED BOTH HISTORICAL AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. THIS IS PENDING, UH, THE DRAFT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE NEXT STEP IS TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR INPUT, UH, BEFORE FINALIZING. SO I IMAGINE, UH, THE NEXT TIME I MEET WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, WE'LL DECIDE TOGETHER, UH, WHEN, WHEN, HOW TO GO ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS FOR THAT PRIORITY TWO. AND OUR ROADMAP IS A SOLID COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, WORK STREAM 2.2 0.1. THAT INITIATIVE IS TO ESTABLISH OET OFFICE HOURS FOR STAFF AND THE PUBLIC. UM, THAT'S COMPLETED IN THAT WE HAVE HAD OFFICE HOURS FOR, UM, A BIT OF TIME NOW. UM, RIGHT NOW, OFFICE HOURS ARE WHAT REALLY IS APPOINTMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVING STANDING OFFICE HOURS, UM, IS A NECESSITY RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT OF COURSE, AGAIN, THESE WILL ALL BE REVISITED, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, BI-ANNUALLY OR ANNUALLY TO SEE IF CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. WORK STREAM 2.2 0.3, UH, CONTINUE ANNUAL VISITS. HEATHER, CAN YOU, ONE SEC. HOW, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN CONTACTED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC FOR A MEETING? IT MAYBE THREE INFREQUENTLY. AND SO I THINK HAVE, HAVING THEM DO AN AS NEEDED IS PROBABLY BETTER BECAUSE IT SHOWS MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR SCHEDULE ALSO. MM-HMM . AGREED. THANK YOU. UM, 2.2 0.3. UM, CONTINUE THE ANNUAL VISITS BY OET STAFF TO DEPARTMENT MEETINGS AND INITIATE MEETINGS WITH CITY MANAGER DEPARTMENTS. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER IN PROGRESS. THIS WILL NEVER BE COMPLETE. UM, BUT THIS CONTINUES TO BE ONGOING. 2.2 0.4, CONDUCT AN ANNUAL SELF EVAL OF THE COMMISSION'S PROCESSES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO STRENGTHEN ITS EFFECTIVENESS AS AN ADVISORY BODY AND REINFORCE ITS CREDIBILITY WITH CITY STAKEHOLDERS. SO I THINK A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE AROUND THIS WITH, UH, THE AD HOC ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES. A LOT OF REFLECTION AND RESEARCH WENT INTO THAT. I HAVE IT PENDING. UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, AND I THINK THIS IS THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION, IS TO CONTINUE TO KEEP, UH, THAT AD HOCS REPORT IN MIND AS WE, UH, BUILD OUT, YOU KNOW, THE WORK OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND THE OET. BUT I RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE A STANDING ITEM IN YOUR ANNUAL RETREAT. UM, A SELF EVALUATION OF SORTS. SO, UM, WHETHER IT'S PENDING OR IN PROGRESS, UM, IT'S, IT'S SHOULD ALWAYS BE ONGOING. 2.3 0.3, CONTINUE THE Q AND A COLUMN WITH THE OET NEWSLETTER FEATURING COMMISSIONERS WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN POSE QUESTIONS TO COMMISSIONERS, UM, CREATE A MECHANISM FOR PUBLIC INPUT. AGAIN, THIS IS IN PROGRESS. UM, WE'VE JUST STARTED, UM, THE NEWSLETTER'S ONLY BEEN PUBLIC FACING TWO TO THREE MONTHS. UM, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OUTREACH FROM THE PUBLIC. UM, HOWEVER, WE DO GET A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS SHARED COLLECTIVELY, FOR EXAMPLE, BY MR. CHARLIE, UM, THAT WE COULD USE TO, YOU KNOW, START IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC LIKE MR. CHARLIE BRING UP. UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS IN PROGRESS. UM, PRIORITY THREE IN EDUCATION AND TRAINING BLUEPRINT WORK STREAM 3.1, 0.1. THE INITIATIVE IS TO CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ETHICS TRAINING TO NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND COMMISSIONERS WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF OFFICE. THIS IS PENDING, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING, WE ARE IN CAMPAIGN SEASON, SO THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE AROUND THIS YET, BUT WE'VE GOT A BRAND NEW GROUP OF COMMISSIONERS THAT WILL BE COMING IN, UM, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO AS THEY ONBOARD. SO, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S PENDING, BUT WE'LL NEED TO ACTIVELY START LOOKING AT. YOU MEAN I GET TRAINING? YES. , YOU'LL GET A VISIT FROM ME. I NEED TO SCHEDULE THAT, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU. UH, 3.1 0.2, IDENTIFY THE BUDGET NEEDED TO DEVELOP NEW TRAINING MODULES FOR OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. I HAVE THAT PENDING. THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW, SO I DON'T WANNA OVER COMMIT TO ANYTHING. UM, HOWEVER WE CURRENTLY HAVE RESOURCES, THE RESOURCES WE NEED, UM, TO [00:35:01] CONTINUE BUILDING OUT NEW CONTENT, UM, FOR, FOR A WHILE NOW. SO, UM, AGAIN, IT'S PENDING ONLY IN THAT WE'RE JUST NOT SURE WHAT OUR FINANCES ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. UM, DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT, THE, IS IT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL? DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY WILL BE CONSIDERING YOUR REQUEST? WELL, THE BOC STARTS MEETING, I THINK, AUGUST. UM, SO ANY, ANY REQUESTS INCLUDING THE COMMISSION'S LETTER, ET CETERA, ANY, UM, ANY REQUESTS THAT WE MAKE THAT'LL, THAT STARTS IN AUGUST. OKAY. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN KNOW WHEN THEY'LL BE CONSIDERING ANY SPECIFIC REQUEST OR, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. I MEAN, THERE, TYLER. YEAH. WELL, EACH, UM, BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS. AND THEN BASICALLY AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, WHICH IS USUALLY MID TO LATE SEPTEMBER, THEN THEY MAKE THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL AND BRING IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE A SPECIFIC ITEM FOR EACH, UM, RECOMMENDATION NECESSARILY. UM, SO NOT A, IT'S HARD TO KNOW THE EXACT TIMELINE AND WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT BECKY AND APRIL USED TO KIND OF MONITOR WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND LET THE CHAIR KNOW WHEN ITEMS OF INTEREST TO THE COMMISSION WERE COMING UP SO THAT THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR COULD ATTEND THE MEETING AND MAKE ANY, ANY COMMENTS. I MEAN, YEAH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WHAT THE AGENDAS ARE WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. I'D APPRECIATE THAT. MY RECOLLECTION IS, IS THAT THE AGENDA OF THE COMMITTEE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE LIKE THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET OR ANYWAY, WOULD, THERE WOULD BE C CATEGORIES ON IT, AND WE, THAT'S HOW WE KNEW WHERE OUR ITEM KIND OF, KIND OF FIT IN. SO YEAH, NOT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS PRESENT TO THE BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. SO, UM, IT, IT'S PARTIALLY JUST BASED ON WHAT THEY REQUEST AS WELL. UM, OH, I SEE. BUT THEY ALSO TALK, OBVIOUSLY MORE GENERALLY ABOUT THE ENTIRE BUDGET, SO IT'S KIND OF A COMBO. I SEE. OKAY. DO, IS THE BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ALREADY DETERMINED? I MEAN, WE, DO WE KNOW WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE? WE MUST, YES. YEAH. AND WHO ARE THOSE? UM, THEY JUST SWITCHED THIS YEAR, SO I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. BUT, UM, REALLY QUICK, JUST A SECOND. I'LL LOOK IT UP REALLY QUICK. OKAY. AND THANKS. AND IF, AND APPRECIATE IT, IF YOU'D LET US KNOW WHEN I THINK IT'S AL THESE ISSUES MIGHT COME UP. SORRY, I THINK IT'S, UM, WAS IT CD NINE, CD SEVEN, AND CD TWO, I BELIEVE. BUT, UM, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THERE. STAFF. GO AHEAD. PHILIP CLERK OFFICE IS SAYING THREE. GOOD. I I'M SORRY. DO WHAT WAS THAT? IS IS IT, IS THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION KNOWABLE? IT IS. CHAIR IT. I CAN'T SEE THE, SORRY. IT'S, UH, CHAIR, UH, RICK OTI, VICE CHAIR. ANG, AND THEN, UH, MEMBER, UH, ALAN. SO TYLER WAS CORRECT. SORRY. 9, 9, 7 OR TWO. THANK YOU. OKAY. WORKSTREAM 3.1. POINT THREE IS TO ADOPT EDUCATION AND TRAINING INITIATIVES TO ADDRESS THE LOW AND LOW AWARENESS AND NEUTRAL PERCEPTIONS OF THE ETHICS PROGRAM BY CITY EMPLOYEES AND SCHEDULE TRAINING. SO I HAVE THIS PENDING. IT COULD ALSO BE IN PROGRESS. UM, REALLY THE LAUNCH OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING WILL BE OUR NEXT BIG TRAINING INITIATIVE, UH, THAT SEEKS TO ADDRESS LOW AWARENESS AND NEUTRAL PERCEPTIONS. UM, OUR PROGRAM, JUST A, JUST A, A COMMENT ON THIS ONE. UH, THIS ONE TAKES SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST YOU. IT HAS TO DO WITH RESULTS AND CHANGE AND OBSERVATION THAT, UM, ACTION IS TAKEN AFTER, UH, A CALL OR A REQUEST IS MADE. UM, AND I, I KNOW WHAT YOU DO, UH, BUT THIS IS WHERE THAT TEAM OF PEOPLE AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS REALLY COME IN. 'CAUSE, UM, WHAT I RECALL ABOUT THE, THE AUDIT IS IT WAS THAT THAT, UH, APATHY THAT MANAGEMENT IS NOT INVOLVED, THAT THEY'RE NOT TAKING ACTION OR THAT, UH, WE KNOW THAT MANY THINGS ARE, UM, ASSIGNED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA. BUT THAT'S WHERE, UM, THEIR ACTIONS MANAGEMENT'S [00:40:01] RESPONSE HAS TO BE POSITIVE AND, UM, OPEN SO THAT PEOPLE DO KNOW. AND THOSE NUMBERS WILL COME UP. IT TAKES TIME, UH, BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF ACTION TO, UH, SO I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT PART OF YOUR, UH, YOUR PUSH IS WITH THE LEADERSHIP TEAM. IT'S WITH MANAGEMENT. YEP. AGREED. YEAH. AND I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THANKS. UH, MORE SUPPORT. YEAH. 3.1 0.4 IS TO DEVELOP NEW TRAINING MODULES TO PROMOTE ETHICAL AWARENESS. I THINK THIS HAS ALREADY KIND OF TOUCHED UPON IN OTHER WORK STREAMS, BUT, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS ALWAYS IN PROGRESS. PRIORITY FOR, UM, ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT. 4.1 0.1. ESTABLISH OCCASIONAL MEETINGS, UH, WITH THE OET ATTORNEY, CLERK AND AUDITOR TO MAINTAIN PARTNERSHIPS. THIS IS COMPLETED IN THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED MEETING OCCASIONALLY. AND AGAIN, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WE'RE WORKING ON WHAT MAKES SENSE AS A, UM, STANDING MEETING. SCHEDULE 4.1, 0.2 IS TO CREATE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT BUDGET FOR THE OET AND OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT SUPPORT THE ETHICS PROGRAM. AGAIN, WE ALWAYS CARVE OUT NECESSARY RESOURCES FOR OUR STRUCTURAL BUDGET ANNUALLY. FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, IT'S TYPICALLY UP TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, TO COVER THE COST FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR TEAM. UM, I HAVE THIS AS A PENDING BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH THE BUDGET UNCERTAINTY, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE. UM, SO THAT'S PENDING. AND THEN 4.2 0.4 IS TO INTEGRATE STAFF WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT INTO THE BROADER ROLE OF THE ETHICS PROGRAM. AND THIS IS COMPLETED IN THAT, UM, SAM LOPEZ HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN BRIDGING THAT DIVIDE. UM, MAYBE MORE APPROPRIATE TO SAY IN PROGRESS, JUST BECAUSE SHE STILL HAS SO MUCH WORK ON THE PRA SIDE THAT, UM, SHE'S SLOWLY COMING OVER. AND WITH THAT, THAT'S THE END OF, UH, MY REPORT OR MY UPDATE, UM, INPUT FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL. THANK YOU, HEATHER. ON, WELL, ONE ON A FEW ITEMS. YOU'VE NOTICED THAT IT'S, UH, COMPLETED, BUT, UH, IT'S STILL GOING ON OR IN PROGRESS. UH, ONE ADDITIONAL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR, UH, IN TERMS OF YOUR STATUS, BUT YOU MIGHT JUST WANNA ALSO ADD ONE ONGOING. 'CAUSE THERE ARE GONNA BE THINGS THAT ARE JUST CON ONGOING. SO IT WOULD BE COMPLETED, BUT COMPLETED. AND IT WOULD JUST SAY ONGOING. IT'S JUST ROUTINE PART OF YOUR OPERATIONS IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UH, QUESTION WITH REGARD TO AREA ONE ON THE HELP LINE, UH, IS GETTING BUSIER, UH, CAN YOU SHARE WHAT THAT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF NUMBERS? YEAH. JUST THIS WEEK I GOT 11, 11 HELPLINE COSTS COMPARED TO A WEEK, A FEW MONTHS AGO WOULD BE NONE. NONE. I MEAN, IT JUST DEPENDS. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF PROMOTION OF THE HELPLINE. I THINK OUR EMPLOYEE RESOURCE FAIR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO REALLY HELPED US CONNECT WITH FOLKS THAT WE HADN'T CONNECTED WITH IN AN INFORMAL SETTING LIKE THAT. UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE STARTING AND IT CAN BE QUIET FOR WEEKS, AND THEN 11 NOTIFICATIONS POP UP ON MY EMAIL WITHIN 24 HOURS. SO, UM, IT JUST DEPENDS. BUT IT'S INCREASINGLY GETTING BUSIER. ARE THEY MOSTLY REQUESTING ADVICE OR ARE THEY ALSO LOOKING FOR, OR, OR A LOT OF 'EM LOOKING FOR AN OUTLET FOR AN ALLEGATION? MOSTLY ALLEGATIONS. OKAY. AND I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SELF-EVALUATION AND BEING ROUTINE IN THE ANNUAL RETREATS, BUT I WOULD, UH, I DO THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE MORE THAN JUST AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE ANNUAL RETREATS. YOU KNOW, AT A MINIMUM, I THINK A GROUP OF THE COMMISSION AND OR STAFF, UH, NEED TO, UM, BE ASSIGNED TO KIND OF DO SOME THINKING IN ADVANCE ABSOLUTELY. AND PROVIDE SOME THINKING IN ADVANCE. MM-HMM. SO THEN IT'S DISCUSSED AT THE ANNUAL RETREAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO GET A PRIMER TO GET THINGS GOING AND IDEAS. UH, OTHERWISE IT MIGHT BE A RATHER SHORT DISCUSSION IF IT'S JUST ON THE SPOT. DEFINITELY. YEAH. UH, I JUST MEANT STANDING ITEM IN THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO TALK ABOUT EVERY YEAR. OKAY. UM, SO I HOPE THAT WHOMEVER IS ASSIGNED DOES THAT HOMEWORK BEFOREHAND. ALRIGHT. THANK [00:45:01] YOU. UH, UH, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN. OKAY. OH, COMMISSIONER WISE. OH, DID, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO. OH, OKAY. UM, I JUST CLARIFICATION ON TWO POINT, UH, 3.3, UM, THAT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY NEWSLETTER. IS THAT THE SAME AS THE ETHICAL ELEPHANT, OR IS THE PUBLIC FACING, UM, NEWSLETTER DIFFERENT? OKAY. OKAY. UM, I THINK IT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT WE'RE, I KNOW INITIALLY IT WAS KIND OF FOCUSED ON CITY STAFF, BUT I THINK IT'S ENCOURAGING THAT, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO REVIEW THE NEWSLETTER. I DON'T THINK WE'RE HIDING ANYTHING. NO, THANK YOU. UM, I, I DID HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL QUESTION. IF WE'RE GETTING MORE INTEREST IN USING THE HELPLINE, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS, UM, DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO REPORT A BIT MORE FREQUENTLY THAN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? MAYBE SEMI-ANNUAL TO START AND THEN IF IT MAKES SENSE, QUARTERLY? DEFINITELY. YEP. OKAY. MM-HMM . GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, ANOVA, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS ITEM? NO. THANK YOU. UH, IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS AGENDA ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS IN THE OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. WE HAVE LEAD CHARLIE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. HI, LEAD CHARLIE. HI, LEAD CHARLIE, DISTRICT TWO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS ON 3.11, NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND COMMISSIONERS, NUMBER ONE, WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING THE TRAINING IS, IS IT THE COMMISSIONERS OR IS IT THE CITY CLERK? TWO. WHAT ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST THREE? UM, THE LEVINE ACT, AND MAYBE THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT, UM, A LOT OF NEW THINGS HAVE OCCURRED. WE NOW HAVE 18 OPEN FPPC VIOLATION CASES ON OFFICEHOLDER ACCOUNTS, AND PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE FIVE WITH CINDY ALLEN. TWO, WERE WITH THE DA, HAVE ALL THE CASE NUMBERS. THREE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS WITH SULI OFFICEHOLDER ACCOUNT TWO AGAINST DEBRA KULA, DEBRA K, WHATEVER. AND THEN TWO FOR, UM, VIVIAN MALU, WHO'S RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL. DISTRICT SEVEN. AND THEN FIVE MORE ARE BEING FILED. SO OUR, OUR GOAL, SO MY QUESTION IS WHO, WHO ARE TRAINING THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE GIVING THEM POSSIBLY WRONG ADVICE? THE NEXT THING IS, UM, IF WE CAN FIND THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND THIS MONEY GOES INTO THE, WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR OET, THIS MONEY COULD FUND AND PAY FOR AN ETHICS ATTORNEY THAT WOULD, WOULD HAVE SUBPOENA POWER, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT LEVINAS SERIOUS FELONY VIOLATIONS ON TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS, ONE $21,000 TO THE DOT DID NOT REPORT CAMPAIGN DONORS. WE HAVE NOW REALIZED THAT SOME OF THESE $21,000 DONOR DONORS DONATED $500, WHICH IS OVER THE TWO 50 LEVINE ACT, WHICH IS NOW CREATING CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WHICH IS WITH THE DA. SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN THE ETHICS COMMISSIONERS GET BANK ACCOUNTS AND BANK STATEMENTS? WE HAVE ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT HAS GIVEN $14,000 TO HER HUSBAND TO DO, UM, EVENTS. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF SERIOUS THINGS. 18 OPEN INVESTIGATIONS FIVE ARE WITH THE LA'S OFFICE AND GROWING. WHO'S TEACHING THESE FOLKS? WE REALLY ARE, ARE BORDERLINE A CRISIS WITH OUR CITY IF WE DON'T STOP THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM CHEATING AND NON-REPORTING AND VIOLATING THE LEVIA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE TO A VOTE. COMMISSIONER WEISS AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES AYE. COMMISSIONER D BEES? AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVE AYE. COMMISSIONER COLEMAN OR VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. THANK YOU. AYE, UH, CHAIR P*****K. AYE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. UH, NO, SORRY, WE'RE ON FIVE. WE'RE ON FIVE. UH, ON FOUR. NO, WE'RE ON FIVE. WE ARE ON FOUR. WE'RE ON FOUR. YES. [00:50:04] RECOMMENDATION, [4. 25-55474 Recommendation to discuss priorities for consideration as recommended by the Ad Hoc on Commission Responsibilities.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS PRIORITIES FOR CONSIDERATION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE AD HOC ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES. SECOND. THAT WAS A MOTION BY MORALES AND SECOND BY BY CHAIR COLEMAN. THANK YOU. SO ON THIS ITEM, WE, WE RECEIVED A REPORT, A FINAL REPORT FROM THE AD HOC COMMISSION ON COMMITTEE ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, LAST MONTH. AND THEY RECOMMENDED A NUMBER OF ITEMS FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. UM, AND THEY DIVIDED THOSE ITEMS UP INTO CHANGES, LIKELY REQUIRING A CHARTER AMENDMENT CHANGES, LIKELY REQUIRING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL CHANGES, LIKELY REQUIRING CITY MANAGER APPROVAL AND CHANGES ONLY REQUIRING COMMISSION APPROVAL. UM, AND QUITE A FEW REALLY MEATY RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, AND, UH, I, I, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE, UH, CONSIDER WHICH OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND ANALYZE FIRST AND HOW WE WANT TO DO THAT. WHETHER WE, WHEN WE GET TO THE LATER AGENDA ITEM, WHETHER WE WANNA SET UP AN AD HOC, ANY INPUT FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM. WOULD THE MEMBERS OF THE FORMER AD HOC COMMITTEE ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES LIKE TO, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WE TABLE THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER WHEN YOU HAVE A NEWLY FORMULATED COMMISSION. I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE THREE OF US TO COMMENT ON THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG SUSAN AND JP ARE STILL GONNA BE HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WANT, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO BE ON ANY AD HOC GOING FORWARD. SO I THINK MAYBE THIS JUST GETS TABLED OUT SIX MONTHS OR SO, OR UNTIL YOU HAVE A NEWLY SEATED COMMISSION. SO IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT THEY TAKE UP, UNLESS THE FOUR OF YOU WANNA MAKE SOME DECISIONS, BUT IT'S NOT SOUNDING THAT WAY RIGHT NOW. WELL, I, I'M HOPING TO GET INPUT. I'M AFRAID IF WE DON'T EVEN START TALKING ABOUT IT FOR FOUR MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS. UM, SOME OF THESE ARE, ARE PRETTY URGENT, I THINK, IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT THIS COMMISSION OUGHT TO BE DOING. UM, I'M JUST RELUCTANT. I I HEAR YOU AND I AGREE THAT WE PROBABLY, AND SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF EASY. MAYBE YOU, MAYBE YOU CHERRY PICK THE EASY ONES TO GET ACCOMPLISHED OR TO WORK ON AND ADDRESS RIGHT NOW AND LEAVE SOME OF THE MEATIER THINGS TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NEW MEMBERS AGREE WITH PURSUING. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA WANNA, I PERSONALLY WOULD THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE A FULLY CONSTITUTED COMMISSION TO LOOK AT ANY OF THE THINGS THAT REQUIRE CHARTER AMENDMENTS. ALTHOUGH THAT SAID CHARTER AMENDMENTS ARE GONNA NEED TO GO TO THE COUNCIL FAIRLY QUICKLY IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ON THE BALLOT NEXT YEAR. WHEN IS THE CUTOFF FOR CHARTER AMENDMENT IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE MARCH 26TH BALLOT? I SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY CHATTING WITH TYLER . ONE SEC. HI. I DON'T HAVE THAT DATE OFFHAND. OKAY. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A, UH, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO IS WHAT'S THE CUTOFF PERIOD FOR THINGS IN THE MARCH CHARTER, UH, ELECTION AND THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, BECAUSE AFTER THAT THEN YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT GETTING ANY OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS DONE UNTIL 28. RIGHT. UM, BUT THEN MAYBE THERE'S SUCH A RUNWAY NECESSARY TO GET ANY CHARTER AMENDMENTS ACROSS THE THRESHOLD. AND I'M MINDFUL THAT, UH, THE MARCOLA CENTER DID RECOMMEND THAT WE WORK TO BUILD TRUST MM-HMM . IN THE CITY AS WELL AS IN THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM . BEFORE WE SEEK THAT KIND OF ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY MM-HMM . UM, BUT AS YOU NOTED, THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON, UH, IN THIS [00:55:01] REPORT THAT REQUIRE ONLY THE COMMISSION. RIGHT. UM, AND ALSO WE COULD, UH, LOOK AT EXPLORING THOSE THAT REQUIRE ONLY CITY MANAGER APPROVAL. UM, IS THERE ANYONE, UH, COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT COMMISSIONER MORALES IS SAYING. I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF I AGREE. UM, I REALIZE WE'RE LAME DUCKS, BUT I MAYBE DON'T WANT TO BE A LAME DUCK. UM, THE, BUT IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE WE GET THE COMMISSIONERS, NEW COMMISSIONERS ON BOARD. AND THEN I THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, PROBABLY A FEW MEETINGS BEFORE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE OP PINING ON THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES. AND THAT JUST MEANS DELAY. NOW I DO THINK THAT WE MIGHT DIVIDE THINGS UP BETWEEN LOW HANGING FRUIT, THE EASY STUFF AS COMMISSIONER MORALES WAS REFERRING TO, UH, THAT ONLY, UH, ONLY REQUIRE COMMISSION APPROVAL, POSSIBLY ONLY REQUIRE THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL AND KIND OF JUST START WORKING ON THOSE RIGHT AWAY AND HAVE A SEPARATE TRACK ON THE LONGER ONES. BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMISSION IS BELIEVES THAT, UH, MORE AUTHORITY, UH, AND HAVING ACTUALLY INVESTIGATORY AUTHORITY IS IMPORTANT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED SOON AND THEN BEGIN TO WORK ON THAT SOON, INCLUDING IS WHAT THE CHAIR MENTIONED, IS POSSIBLY EVEN GETTING, HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC OR GETTING PUBLIC INPUT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD LOOK, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW YOU WOULD DO IT. I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THE CITY. AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS. MM-HMM . AND, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY THINK THAT THIS COMMISSION ALREADY HAS SOME FORM OF INVESTIGATORY AUTHORITY. ANY OTHER IN COMMISSION? VICE CHAIR COLEMAN? UM, I AM, I BELIEVE PERHAPS IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF MY TWO COLLEAGUES HERE, UM, WHERE, UH, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU CHAIR THAT. UM, AND ALTHOUGH I'VE, I'VE KIND OF BEEN THE LOUD VOICE ON SAYING THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WAIT FOR, UH, NEW, UH, OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS. UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE WHY WE MAY WAIT A FULL SIX MONTHS. I THINK THAT SOME OF THEM, UM, ESPECIALLY RELATING TO CAMPAIGN FINANCE, I THINK DELAY IN THAT REGARD WILL ALMOST BE TOO LATE, MIGHT ALREADY BE TOO LATE FOR 2026. I DO NOT SEE, UM, FURTHER DELAY BEING HEALTHY, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION. UM, HOWEVER, FOR ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE CHARTER, UM, AMENDMENTS, UM, I THINK THAT WE ARE MAKING HEADWAY OF KIND OF RESTORING AND GAINING TRUST WITH THE, UM, ELECTEDS AND, UM, OTHER TOP LEVEL, UM, STAFF OF THE CITY. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK I, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE NOT YET THERE, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATE FULL, FULL HEARTEDLY FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS WITH ENOUGH SUPPORT THAT WE WOULD GET THEM OVER THE LINE. UM, HOWEVER, I, I INITIALLY THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL, BUT THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING ON THE TWO TRACK SYSTEM, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT AD HOC SHOULD EXIST FOREVER. I THINK THAT IT SHOULD HAVE, UM, A VERY NARROWLY TAILORED MISSION SO THAT IT CAN BE COMPLETED AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UM, GOAL. SO I, I, ALTHOUGH I, I STILL DON'T LIKE NECESSARILY A TWO TRACK SYSTEM OF WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY REFERRING TO AS LOW HANGING FRUIT, I DO THINK THAT MAKING SPECIFIC AD HOCS TO PERHAPS, UH, TOUCH ON EACH OF THESE PRIORITIES WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN THE SHORT TERM WHILE WE WERE WAITING ON NEW, UM, COMMISSIONERS TO GET ONBOARDED. UM, AND THEN ALSO UP TO SPEED. SO I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR IF OTHERS ARE OF PERHAPS PICKING A PRIORITY OR TWO AND CREATING AN AD HOC TO START THE PROCESS UP. COMMISSIONER WISE. COMMISSIONER WISE. YEAH. UM, I'M, I'M, I THINK I'M MORE IN THE MIDDLE, LIKE, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN IS ON, ON THIS. I, UM, WELL, LET ME JUST TAKE AN OVERVIEW. IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK IN, IN THE MEMO THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND SUMMARIZED WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT HAPPENED RECENTLY IN LOS ANGELES AND IN SAN DIEGO [01:00:01] IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ELECTIONS IN, IN TERMS OF AMENDING AND SORT OF EXPANDING THE ROLE OF THE ETHICS COMMISSIONS IN THOSE CITIES, I THINK IF YOU LOOK FORWARD IN LONG BEACH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY, I THINK THAT EVENTUALLY THAT WILL HAPPEN HERE AS WELL. UM, BUT I AGREE, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT NOW, AND I AM VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TWO THINGS NOW PENDING AS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HASN'T MOVED ON. ONE IS THE LOBBYING RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE OTHER IS THE, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? THE BEST , BEST GOOD PRACTICES, I CALL IT, BUT WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? EGO, ETHICS, ETHICS AND GOOD GOVERNANCE. OKAY. ORDINANCE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, ANYWAY, THAT, UM, THAT ARE PENDING AND, AND I THINK THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO KEEP ITS FOCUS ON, ON THOSE, OR ABAN, YOU KNOW, JUST ABANDON THEM IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT GOES ABOUT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING THAT ISN'T IN OUR REPORT, BUT IS OBVIOUSLY AN ITEM THAT IS, IT'S FAIRLY RECENT WORK BY THIS, UM, BY THIS BODY. SO THE, ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE, THE, I'LL SAY THE EASY LIST IS HAVING A, HAVING PERIODIC MEETINGS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND IT, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO REVIEW THE RESOLUTION OF MUNICIPAL ELECTION VIOLATIONS AND CAMPAIGN REQUIREMENTS, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND OTHER EX VIOLATIONS. WELL, IF YOU JUST FOCUS ON THE IDEA THAT WE WANNA WANNA FOCUS ON ELECTION VIOLATIONS AND CAMPAIGN REQUIREMENTS AND, AND THAT THERE IS SOME URGENCY TO THAT BECAUSE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA START RUNNING FOR OFFICE BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE HAVE THE ELECTIONS COMING UP. THEN THE OTHER THING THAT COMES IS, IS WORKING ON, IN, IN MY VIEW, IS WORKING ON ONE THAT MAY REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL, WHICH IS HOW INVESTIGATIONS ARE GONNA BE HANDLED. AND I THINK AN INITIAL WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO, TO START. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE LIKE A SERIES OF, OF LIKE WORKSHOPS OR WHAT'S, OR WHAT THE FORUM WOULD BE, BUT YOU COULD ALSO THEN INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, GET THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND, AND GIVE COMMENTS ON IT BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME RELEVANT SOON. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE VI YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION NOW THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED, BUT WE KNOW THAT MORE OF THIS IS COMING. AND SO, SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S THE GENERAL DIRECTION. WHAT, WHAT AN AN AD HOC MIGHT DO IS JUST MAYBE THINK ABOUT WHAT THE WORKSHOP SHOULD LOOK LIKE OR HOW, OR WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT A FEW STEPS. AND MAYBE IT COULD JUST BE A VERY SHORT TERM THING BECAUSE YOU'D WANNA GET GOING ON WHATEVER THE STEPS WERE. YOU CAN'T SPEND ALL YOUR TIME FIGURING OUT THE STEPS AND NOT HAVE TIME TO DO THEM. SO, UH, OR MAYBE THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND COME BACK WITH OR STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF CAN FIGURE OUT HOW IT WOULD WORK AND, AND, AND, UM, UH, THERE CAN BE SOME EXPLORATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING KIND OF COOKING IN THAT REGARD, UM, TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION. UM, BUT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT WOULD BE, THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, WHAT I WOULD FOCUS IN ON AT THIS PERIOD OF TIME BESIDES FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THINGS. AND, AND, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW, I THINK IS THE OLYMPICS COMING UP AND WHETHER THERE'S SPECIAL, SPECIAL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THIS COMMISSION IN THAT, IN TERMS OF, AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT CONTRACTS OR WHATEVER TYPE THINGS THE CITY MAY BE ENTERING INTO, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME ROLE FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION IN, IN HELPING MAKE SURE THAT THE, THOSE PROCESSES ARE, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PROPER WAY. AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE. I, I WOULD THINK WITH THE, THE HELP OF, OF, OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE GONNA BE OVERSEEING THOSE CONTRACTS AND ALSO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. UM, WE, WE, WE DO ALSO, RELATIVE TO ONE OF THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE, WE DO STILL HAVE ON THE PARKING LOT, IF YOU WILL, THE INVESTIGATIVE PROTOCOL. [01:05:01] UH, WE DID GET INPUT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, AND I BELIEVE HR ON THE INVESTIGATIVE PROTOCOL. IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, THEN THAT BECOMES A BASIS FOR TALKING ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH THE CITY IS ALLOCATING RESOURCES OR USING RESOURCES IN, IN INVESTIGATIONS. UM, AND I, I, I THINK WE CAN JUST REVIVE THAT, UM, ON OUR OWN INITIATIVE. UM, WHEN, UH, CHIEF COLEMAN, UH, CHIEF COLEMAN AND I, UH, MET, UH, MEET AND GREET WITH THE NEW HEAD OF HR, WE MENTIONED TO HIM THAT THAT IS THERE, UH, SO THAT HE WOULD TAKE A LOOK HIS OWN FRESH LOOK AT IT BECAUSE, UM, WHILE I BELIEVE HR DID LOOK AT IT PREVIOUSLY, HE'S BRINGING A NEW PERSPECTIVE. SO I DID WANNA GIVE HIM TIME TO DO THAT. AND HE'S HAD A FEW PRIORITIES COMING INTO THE JOB. BUT, UM, I WILL, UH, REVIVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. UM, AND WE'LL SEE IF WE'VE GOTTEN INPUT FROM HIM. SO IN, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER SHAWA. YEAH, I JUST WANTED, UH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE AND I THINK THAT THAT WORK IN TERMS OF HOW INVESTIGATIONS ARE HANDLED AND WHERE ISSUES GO, UM, IS ESSENTIAL. 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN LACK OF CLARITY. UH, I ALSO THINK THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP, UH, EITHER ILLUSTRATE OR PAVE THE WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY THAT IT MIGHT NEED TO BE ISSUED VERSUS A CHARTER AMENDMENT. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ALSO NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE CITY'S BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND TIMING IS EVERYTHING. AND SO, UH, I HONESTLY DOUBT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE, OR THE COMMISSION WOULD BE ABLE TO GET ANYTHING KIND OF WORKED THROUGH BEFORE IT WOULD BE TIME TO GET ON THE BALLOT FOR A CHARTER AMENDMENT. I THINK IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. UM, AND SO I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE DO ON THAT INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL NOW, UH, WOULD BE IMMENSELY VALUABLE. COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS, UM, YOU LEAD, WE'LL GO. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. , I THINK, UM, I'M, I'M REAL SIMPLE. I THINK THE, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT WE HEAR IN PUBLIC COMMENT IS, AND WHY WE WERE FORMED IS AROUND, UH, CITY LEADERSHIP AND THEIR BEHAVIORS. UH, WHATEVER WE CAN DO THAT IS, UM, LOOKING AT THE FUTURE ELECTIONS OR IF THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AND THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AND STARTING TO CRAFT, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE FIRST ONE OR THE SECOND ONE. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THE SOONER, THE BETTER THAT WE LOOK AT IT, AT LEAST EVEN IF WE'RE OVERWHELMED, UM, THE INWARD FACING OET TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US, THEY'LL ALWAYS BE THERE. UM, I THINK THAT THE NEW COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA BE HIT WITH A FIRE HOSE. UH, THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, A ADAPT AND WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH NEW IDEAS AND THOUGHTS. UM, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA FALL IN JUST AS WE DID. UH, SO I, I DO, I LIKE THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT THE OLYMPICS. I THINK THESE ARE, UH, THESE ARE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES, THE ELECTIONS AND THE OLYMPICS TO AT LEAST HAVE FORMED A POSITION OR OPINION OR SOME ANALYSIS ON WHERE WE CAN BRING VALUE. UM, AND, UH, BUT OTHERWISE, I, I REALLY DO, I THINK THAT THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR CAN PICK, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO, WE HAVE A COUPLE, UH, LAME DUCKS THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP. BUT, UH, YOU, YOU 0.1 OF US IS LEADING. OKAY. BUT YOU, UH, YOU LEAD AND WE'LL GO. AND THAT'S, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SERVE WHEREVER, WHATEVER YOU ASSIGN US TO DO. UM, SO I GUESS ONE, ONE ISSUE, THE FIRST, UH, POINT ON THE REPORT, I, IN TERMS OF ITEM CHANGES THAT ONLY REQUIRE COMMISSION APPROVAL, UM, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN AND I MEET QUARTERLY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS NEXT WEEK. SO I, WHAT I'M HEARING IS I CERTAINLY DON'T NEED ANY ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY TO EXPLORE, UM, MEETING PERIODICALLY, UH, TO INCLUDE THESE ISSUES. MM-HMM . UM, [01:10:01] OTHER LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT FOLKS THINK WE CAN JUMP ON. UM, THE, THE NEXT ONE IS EXPLORE HAVING A, THE HR, UH, DEPARTMENT MEET WITH THE COMMISSION AT LEAST ANNUALLY. UM, AND, AND, AND THIS IS SPECIFIC TO RESOLUTION OF EMPLOYEE ALLEGATIONS, BUT I THINK IT THAT COULD EVEN BE EXPANDED TO, UM, HAVE THE HR DEPARTMENT PRESENT MORE FREQUENTLY TO THE COMMISSION. I LIKE THAT WE, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM. UM, I KNOW THAT THEY, UM, I, AT LEAST I RECALL, UH, IN THE DRAFTING OF EGG, UH, THAT THEY'RE CONTEMPLATED. SO I THINK THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE NEXT, WHAT'S GONNA DOVETAIL FROM THAT IS SOME OF THEIR PROCESSES WILL BE AFFECTED, UH, BY THAT, WHETHER IT BE, UH, NEW ORIENTATION OR JUST IN THE REALM OF INVESTIGATIONS THAT MAY COME THEIR WAY. SO I THINK THAT, UM, FAMILIARITY AND GETTING THEM FLUENT WITH WHAT OUR, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, WE NEED TO BE FLUENT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UH, THE SOONER THE BETTER. OKAY. UM, AND, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HAVING AT LEAST ONE MEETING IN THE EVENING MM-HMM . TO IMPROVE PUBLIC OUTREACH. UM, COULD WE ASK, UM, THE STAFF TO SUGGEST OTHER WAYS THAT WE MIGHT DO THAT? AND I, I CERTAINLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EVENING MEETING, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PUBLICIZE IT AND HAVE AN AGENDA THAT IS, UH, UH, CONTAINS ISSUES THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC. BUT I THINK ALL THOSE THREE RIGHT THERE ARE VERY, THEY'RE RIGHT FOR YOU TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH. AND, AND I THINK THE, THE FOURTH ONE ON COMMISSION AUTHORITY IS REALLY THE, IN SIGNIFICANT PART, IMPLEMENTING THE STRATEGIC ROADMAP. I MEAN, THE, THE STRATEGIC ROADMAP HAS A HUGE COMPONENT ON BUILDING TRUST, PUBLIC TRUST. AND SO WE'VE ALREADY AGREED THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE STRATEGIC ROADMAP. COMMISSIONER ANOVA, ANY, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS. UH, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THE, IN THE, UH, HAVING A ONE OR TWO MEETINGS THAT, OR MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. UM, UH, THANK YOU. UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS, UM, TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS AT NIGHT IS, UH, WHAT CHAIR WAS SUGGESTING IS, JUST TO CLARIFY, IS CHAIR SUGGESTING THAT WE LOOK AT ONE MEETING, ONE EVENING MEETING AND DECIDE AHEAD OF TIME? OR DO YOU WANT AND, AND SELECT A CERTAIN MONTH? OR DO YOU WANT IT TO HAVE A STANDING MEETING DATE AND TIME MOVING FORWARD? UM, I, I GUESS I, I WAS THINKING ABOUT A DISCUSSION WE HAD HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT WE WOULD HAVE A REGULAR MEETING IN THE EVENING. UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING IT BE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING, UH, DEPENDS ON THE CONSENSUS. UH, CHAIR WITH REGARD TO, I LIKE THE, I CONTINUE TO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, A MEETING IN THE EVENING THAT THE PUBLIC CAN GO. I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE WAYS AND WE'D AB IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HEAVILY PUBLICIZED YEAH. THE IDEA TO ACTUALLY GET MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THERE. BUT IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE THAT MEETING SO THAT IT IS MORE OF A, I REALIZE I'M GONNA SAY THIS AND REALIZE THAT IT MAY NOT BE DOABLE CITY CLERK AND THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MAY SAY NO, BUT THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE LESS STILTED AND A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UH, DIALOGUE SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC. UM, AND IT'S NOT AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, BEING VERY FORMAL, UH, THE WAY IT IS NOW. [01:15:01] 'CAUSE THAT COULD BE OFF PUTTING TO SOME PEOPLE. UM, DOES A PUB, DOES A PUBLIC STUDY SESSION ENABLE US TO HAVE MORE OF A CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC ON SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT ARE AGENDIZED IN ADVANCE? I CAN, UM, LOOK INTO THAT TO DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE LIKE A WORKSHOP CONFIGURATION, BUT THAT'S MORE OF THE COMMISSIONERS KIND TO SORT OF TALK AMONGST THEMSELVES MORE FREELY. UM, HOWEVER, UM, JUST TO A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE, THERE'S NO WAY OF GETTING AROUND THE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FORMALITIES OF THE BROWN ACT. UM, BUT THERE MIGHT BE, UH, AGAIN, A WAY THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UM, ALLOW MORE OF A DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSIONERS. SO, SO WHEN TAYLOR WAS HERE, SHE HAD OPINED THAT THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE BROWN ACT THAT PRECLUDED US FROM HAVING A DIALOGUE, AS LONG AS THE DIALOGUE DID NOT DEVIATE FROM WHAT THE ITEM WAS THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA. HER CONCERN AND HER, HER ADMONISHMENT TO US WAS THAT AS LONG AS WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA WAS WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED. BUT WE COULDN'T MAKE ANY RIGHT OR LEFT TURNS GOING IN TO NEW INFORMATION. LIKE WE COULDN'T ASK THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT WEREN'T PERTINENT TO THE AGENDA. SO THE AGENDA ITEM HAS TO BE WRITTEN BROADLY ENOUGH THAT THERE COULD BE SOME INTERACTION THERE. THAT SOUNDS CORRECT. GREAT. UM, I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION TO, TO SET WHICH MONTH WE WOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETING. CERTAINLY NOT DURING THE SUMMER. UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE WOULD HAVE OUR FULL COMPLIMENT OF NEW COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS WHEN WE, UH, DO HAVE THE MEETING. BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER NOVE, WERE YOU HOPING TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE THIS YEAR, OR, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'VE, I'VE RESPONDED TO YOUR QUESTION. UM, THANK YOU CHAIR. NO, ACTUALLY MY QUESTION, UH, WAS NOT TO HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL MEETING. MY QUESTION, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION WAS WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE, THE PUBLIC EVENING MEETING, UM, YOU SAID, LET'S, LET'S AGENDIZE IT AS FAR IN ADVANCE AS WE CAN SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND AN EVENING MEETING. MY QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION IS, DO YOU WANT THAT MEETING AS A STANDING MEETING? SO IF WE DECIDE APRIL WILL BE AN EVENING MEETING, DO YOU WANT THE APRIL, DO YOU WANT THE APRIL MEETING TO ALWAYS BE AND MOVING FORWARD IN THE EVENING? AH, GOOD. GOOD. GOOD QUESTION. GOOD IDEA. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE AN INTENTION. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. GREAT DISCUSSION TO DO THAT. WHAT DO OTHER FOLKS THINK? VICE CHAIR COLEMAN, I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF A PILOT. I THINK SEEING HOW THINGS OPERATE AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, ADJUST AS NECESSARY. AND SO, UM, SAY IT'S APRIL WE HAVE THE EVENING MEETING AND IT WORKS GREAT. THEN WE USE THAT AS A PILOT, AND THEN WE PERHAPS COME BACK AS A COMMISSION AND SAY, WE WANT APRIL TO BE OUR STANDING EVENING MEETING. MM-HMM . UM, BUT I THINK WITHOUT DATA POINTS AND KNOWING HOW IT OPERATED, AND MAYBE IF FOR INSTANCE, APRIL DOESN'T WORK RIGHT, MAYBE A LATER MONTH OR EARLIER MONTH, ET CETERA, WOULD, UM, I THINK RESERVING THE RIGHT TO LABEL IT A PILOT OR LABEL IT AS A LET'S GET MORE INFORMATION, UM, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL SO THAT WE DON'T COMMIT, YEAH. COMMIT PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, ITS NECESSITY IF NOBODY SHOWS COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL. UH, I AGREE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A PILOT, UH, TO KIND OF TEST IT OUT. UH, OBVIOUSLY THINGS CAN ALWAYS BE IMPROVED, BUT A PILOT REALLY KIND OF REALLY FOCUSES ON THAT. ONE THING I WOULD CONSIDER THOUGH IS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON COUNCIL'S ADVICE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE DIALOGUE, IT MAY BE BETTER TO HAVE AS A SEPARATE MEETING AS OPPOSED TO THE REGULAR AGENDA MEETING WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A VERY BROAD AGENDA TOPIC AT THE SEPARATE MEETING. SOMETHING. BUT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND IT MIGHT BE YOU COULD DO IT AT A SPACE, IT'S MORE CONDUCIVE TO ACTUALLY HAVING A, UH, PARTICIPATION IN A DIALOGUE. AND IF I MAY JUST ONE MORE PLEASE. UM, AND THIS IS FOR CITY STAFF. UM, WOULD THERE BE AN ABILITY TO PERHAPS POLL THE PUBLIC ON ITEMS THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THEM TO DISCUSS, TO, TO DISCUSS? UM, I THINK IF THE POINT OF THE MEETING IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S [01:20:01] NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY FOR THEM, WHILE WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE ALSO, WE HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON, OR PERHAPS WANT TO EXPLORE MORE WITH, UH, MORE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC POSSIBLY GETTING INPUT. AND I WELCOME FEEDBACK ON THIS, UH, MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA AS WELL. GENERALLY, I MEAN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A DIRECTIVE FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE UTILIZING ESSENTIALLY LIKE OUR CITY COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO SEND OUT LIKE A CITYWIDE SURVEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE ATTORNEY HAS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. . SO WE, WE, WE DID DO A SURVEY YEAH. AT ONE POINT IN TIME BECAUSE WE HAD TRIED TO DO, WE, WE HAD, WHAT WAS IT? WHAT WAS LOBBYING? LOBBYING. WE, WE HAD WANTED TO SECURE MORE PUBLIC INFORMATION MM-HMM . AND WE HAD ASKED TO HOLD A SERIES OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS MM-HMM . OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AFTER HOURS. AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CITY STAFF, UH, WAS INSUFFICIENT TO RESOURCES TO DO THAT, SO THAT WE COULDN'T HAVE A SERIES OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO SECURE THAT INPUT AND WHAT WAS OFFERED TO US IN LIEU OF DOING THE SERIES OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS WAS THAT THE STAFF WOULD PUT TOGETHER A SURVEY AND SEND IT. IT WAS POSTED ELECTRONICALLY. IT WAS, UM, THE LINKS WERE GIVEN TO EACH OF THE COUNCIL OFFICES SO THAT THEY COULD SEND IT OUT IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS. THE LINK WAS GIVEN TO A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY GROUPS SO THAT THEY COULD, THAT INFORMATION OUT. WE TRIED TO GET THE INFORMATION ON HOW TO ACCESS THAT SURVEY AS BROADLY AS POSSIBLE. MM-HMM . TO AS MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY AS WE COULD. THERE WAS A, AN OKAY RESPONSE TO IT. THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT TRIED TO GAME IT, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS A WAY WITHIN THE, THE, THE, THE, THE SURVEY TOOL THAT WE USED THAT IT DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ALREADY RESPONDED TO IT, SO YOU COULD RESPOND AGAIN. SO IT, IT WAS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT GAVE US THE OPTION OF SECURING INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC VIA A SURVEY RATHER THAN A SERIES OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS. SORRY, TYLER, THAT WAS APRIL'S AP APRIL HAD OPINED THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IN LIEU OF A WHOLE SERIES OF ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. UM, BUT IT ALSO IS JUST A CAPACITY QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THE COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING HEATHER AND, AND OUR COMMS TEAM. SO I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LINE IS DRAWN, BUT, BUT ONE A YEAR SHOULD BE DOABLE. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING ONE EVERY OTHER MONTH OR EVERY SIX MONTHS. YEAH. I, I, I THINK, AGAIN, I, I AGREE. I IT'S NOT, I WOULD SEE THIS AS A PILOT, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO GET MORE INPUT. I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN GETTING INPUT FOR A COMMISSION WHOSE AIM IS TRANSPARENCY WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT MATTERS TO THEM. I THINK THAT IS THE REASON WHY THIS COMMISSION EXISTS. AND I, I, I TAKE A LITTLE MAYBE OFFENSE TO THE, TO THE THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO, TO SEE WHAT IS OF INTEREST TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SUPPO OR ARE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL THAT WE CAN. AND I THINK WITHOUT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK, WE'RE LIMITED. AND I THINK WE HAVE VERY SMART MINDS ON THIS, UM, DI AND ON VIRTUALLY. UM, BUT WE'RE ONLY, UH, A FEW PEOPLE. AND THE, THE MORE THAT WE CAN GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK THAT IT IS, THE BETTER THAT OUR IDEAS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ARE. UM, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IS POSSIBLE, UM, I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY. OTHER COMMISSION INPUT. COMMISSIONER NAVE, UM, UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. JUST TO, UH, PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT COMMISSIONER DUNNED BENEDICTUS SAID EARLIER. UM, IN TERMS OF CHERRY PICKING FROM THE SUGGESTIONS OR THE PRIORITIES, I THINK, UM, THE CITY, UH, SHE MENTIONED CITY LEADERSHIP, CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNT. I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN MOVE ON, UH, ON ITS OWN, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A SURVEY AT THIS, AT THIS MOMENT. [01:25:01] I AGREE. A SURVEY IS A, A IS A GREAT IDEA. IT, UM, IT SHOWS A COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE DOING OUTREACH AND IT GIVES THE COMMUNITY TO RESPOND. UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK THESE SMALLER ISSUES FOR, UM, LIKE THE CITY LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGN, CAMPAIGN FINANCE, AND UM, OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNTS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN TAKE ON, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR A FULL COMMISSION IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. I AGREE. AND, AND WE WILL RAISE IT WITH, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY IN OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK. AND I'VE ADDED OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNTS TO THAT LIST. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSION INPUT ON THIS ITEM? UM, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE WILL EMBARK ON, AND I WILL WAIT A MONTH OR TWO AND SEE WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF COMMISSION REPLACEMENTS. UM, AND, UH, BRING THIS BACK UP FOR SOME OF THE MORE CHALLENGING ISSUES ON HERE. 'CAUSE I, I, I, I, I DON'T WANNA PREDICT WHEN WE'LL BE, UH, STAFFED UP, UH, WITH REPLACEMENTS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE'RE LOSING. SO I DON'T WANNA LOSE TOO MUCH TIME. UH, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT. UH, ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN THE ZOOM WE HAVE LEE. CHARLIE, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU MAY SPEAK WHEN YOU'RE READY. HI. UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN, YES. OKAY. SO, UM, I, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ON THIS AND THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER. RE UM, WE HAVE BOOTS TO THE GROUND AND I PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC CHAT OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNT. WHAT IS IT? NUMBER TWO, LEVINE ACTS. WHAT IS IT? CAN THE CITY CLERK DO A PRESENTATION LIKE AT CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN LEARN AND INTEGRATE AND ASK QUESTIONS? NUMBER THREE, CITY ATTORNEY PRESENTATION ON WHAT ELECTED OFFICIALS STAFF CAN AND CANNOT DO. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING IF THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION LIKE THAT WHERE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN LEARN AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO. NUMBER FOUR, WHAT ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN DO AND NOT DO ON CITY OF LONG BEACH TIME DURING ELECTION SEASON. NUMBER TWO, WHY THE OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNT IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. ELECTIONS COME AND GO, BUT OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNTS ARE EVERY SIX MONTHS AND YOU CAN DONATE $750 TO THESE SUCKERS AND THAT WOULD CREATE A LEVINE ACT VIOLATION POTENTIALLY. AND WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE EYES ON THAT. AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS, UM, I APPLIED TO BE AN ETHICS COMMISSIONER FIVE TIMES. I'VE BEEN APPLYING FOR FIVE YEARS, AND I WAS TOLD TWO WEEKS AGO BY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO, TO MY FACE, AND I'M GONNA QUOTE HER, SHE TOLD ME TO MY FACE, HELL WOULD HAVE TO FREEZE OVER BEFORE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WOULD EVER RECOMMEND ME TO BE A COMMISSIONER. 'CAUSE I FILED ALL THESE FPPC VIOLATIONS. AND SO WHATEVER. SO MY QUESTION TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE ATTORNEY AND CLERK, CAN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC BE A VOLUNTEER TO AN AD HOC COMMISSION AND MAYBE MEET AND HAVE COFFEE AND SHOW 'EM THE THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THOUSANDS OF FILES? CAN A A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC BE A PART OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE? THEREFORE, WE'RE NOT A COMMISSION, BUT WE CAN HAVE INPUT, UM, BESIDES AN HOUR LONG. YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE. SO WHAT, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON AN AD HOC, UM, COMMITTEE AS A VOLUNTEER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC? AND THEN I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO, UM, GET A LOT MORE PEOPLE ENGAGED. IF, IF THE, THE APPEARANCES OF I'M NOT A FRIEND OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THEREFORE I'M NOT BEHIND THE DAAS. BUT IF PEOPLE AND MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN START ATTENDING THESE AD HOC COMMITTEES AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS DO NOT LIKE, THEN, THEN, UM, MAYBE WE CAN MELT THE ICE IS WHERE THE NEW PHRASE I'M LEARNING, MELT THE ICE AND LET SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT HOLDING THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT, NOT APPOINTED BY THE ETHICS COMMISSION, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE AMAZING TO GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE TO A VOTE. COMMISSIONER WEISS AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES AYE. COMMISSIONER D BENEDICTE AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVE. [01:30:02] AYE. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. AYE. CHAIR P*****K AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES [5. 25-55475 Recommendation to discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve, create or reauthorize Ad Hoc Committees.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS. AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE, CREATE OR RE-AUTHORIZE AD HOC COMMITTEES MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. THAT WAS A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR COLEMAN AND THEN A SECOND BY DE BENEDICTUS. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT SOUNDS, NO. IS THERE ANY INPUT FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM CHAIR? I HAVE ONE COMMENT. OH, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER WISE, UM, YEAH, I I THINK THAT, UM, ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING, YOU'RE ALREADY SCHEDULED MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UM, MAYBE BETWEEN THAT AND THE DISCUSSION YOU'VE HEARD HERE THAT, THAT THEN THAT YOU, YOU THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR CAN WITH STAFF FIGURE OUT WHAT, HOW THIS MIGHT LOOK. UM, BECAUSE I THINK THE INPUT FROM THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, WOULD, COULD BE BE USEFUL. AND, AND I DO THINK WHATEVER HAPPENS, UM, AND, AND WHAT KIND OF MEETINGS WE HAVE, WHETHER THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, EVENING MEETINGS OR MORE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE, UM, VERY MINDFUL OF, OF ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT MAY BE INVOLVED IF WE GO TO A DIFFERENT PLACE FOR A MEETING OR, OR PERHAPS EVEN A DIFFERENT TIME AND WHAT THAT AVAILABILITY MIGHT, MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO, BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK WE NEED SOME FURTHER INFORMATION AND INPUT FROM STAFF AND, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE TALKING TO, TO, TO FIGURE THIS OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INPUT ON THIS ITEM? ANY INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE IN ZOOM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE NOW. NO PUBLIC COMMENT, MOVE TO A VOTE. COMMISSIONER WISE, AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES? AYE. COMMISSIONER DAVID BENEDICTUS. AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVE. AYE. UH, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. AYE. CHAIR P*****K. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE [6. 25-55476 Recommendation to receive and file a monthly update from the Ethics Officer.       Suggested Action: ] AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE ETHICS OFFICER. SO MOVE SECOND . ALL RIGHT. TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT WAS A MOTION BY SHOTWELL AND A SECOND BY MORALES. OKAY. THANK YOU . HEATHER? THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, JUST A FEW THINGS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALL MET ASHLEY OVER THE LAST YEAR HERE AND THERE, BUT JUST WANTED TO OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE THAT ASHLEY STONE IS OUR NEW, UH, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY THAT WILL BE SUPPORTING THE COMMISSION. UM, SO SHE'S ALREADY SAT IN ON AN AGENDA SETTING MEETING, SHE AND I HAVE MET, UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, REITERATED TO EACH OTHER OUR PARTNERSHIP AND ALL THINGS ETHICS. SO JUST WANTED TO OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE THAT ASHLEY IS OUR ATTORNEY. UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO NAVEEN IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, SO NAVEEN IS OUR, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE INTERN. UH, THIS IS HIS LAST ETHICS COMMISSION MEETING. HE'LL BE LEAVING US IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. [01:35:01] HIS, UH, INTERNSHIP IS OVER AND HE'S ACTUALLY, UH, MOVING BACK UP TO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. SO ALL THE STARS HAVE KIND OF ALIGNED, UM, AS WE, UH, WATCH HIM LEAVE THE OET. UM, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HIM IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE A COUPLE UPDATES 'CAUSE HIS, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, WILL TAKE ABOUT 10 MINUTES OR SO. ETHICS COMMISSIONS, VA VACANCIES. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TODAY. THEY ARE STILL ACTIVELY RECRUITING. UM, THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE I HAVE ON THAT. UM, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER'S WISE AND SHOTWELL HAVE AGREED TO STAY WITH US, UM, FOR THE DURATION, HOPEFULLY SHORTER THAN LONGER. UM, BUT ONCE THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN SELECTED, BECAUSE IT IS, UH, 'CAUSE THEY ARE CHARTER, UM, APPOINTEES, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO TO OUR, I ALWAYS MESS THIS UP. OUR, UM, GOVERNMENT, THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THAT COMMITTEE FIRST AND THEN SENT TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, FOR FINAL APPROVAL. UM, BOTH OF THOSE MEETINGS COULD HAPPEN IN THE SAME DAY, SO IT'S NOT AS LONG AS IT SOUNDS LIKE. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE VIABLE APPLICANTS. UM, SO THAT IS ONGOING. UM, WE ARE WORKING ON BUILDING OUT A FRAMEWORK FOR OUR PRA DASHBOARD. NAVEEN'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT AND HIS PRESENTATION. UM, I TALKED VERY, UM, HIGH LEVEL ABOUT OUR HELPLINE STATISTICS. UH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 15 OPEN CASES, UH, FOR THE HELPLINE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUDGET IMPACTS, UM, CITYWIDE. SO WE WILL WATCH AS THAT EVOLVES. UM, THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND I MET WITH CD EIGHT LAST WEEK, HAD OUR, UM, ANNUAL MEET AND GREET. UM, SO FELT THAT WAS PRODUCTIVE. AND THEN I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL STILL ANXIOUSLY AWAITING FOR EGA TO GO UPSTAIRS. UM, TYLER AND I ARE BOTH VERY HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL BE, UM, IF NOT TODAY, TOMORROW. UM, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THIS ENDEAVOR, UH, THAT THE AD HOC TOOK OVER, YOU KNOW, A SOLID YEAR. UM, AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE TYPICAL PROCESS. UM, WE TYPICALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL TYPICALLY REQUEST THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL FOR DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL. UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE TYPICAL PROCESS, I THINK TOM HAS TAKEN MORE TIME, UH, TO BE DILIGENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS MADE. UM, BECAUSE WHEN IT GOES UPSTAIRS, IT WILL GO UPSTAIRS WITH HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. THAT BEING SAID, UM, TYLER AND I BOTH, BOTH MET WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. UM, SO JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE EGA IN THEIR HANDS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE STILL VERY AWARE OF, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY ANTICIPATE BRINGING FORTH THEIR ETHICS PACKAGE IN JULY. UM, THEY CAN'T COMMIT TO A DATE, BUT THAT'S THEIR HOPE. UM, JULY. SO, AND THEN THE PSA RECS, THOSE ARE, UM, IN THE QUEUE READY TO GO UPSTAIRS. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THE CITY'S PIO TEAM AND THE CITY MANAGERS OR THE OET, UH, BOTH THE PIO AND THE OET ARE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. WE ARE ALREADY PROACTIVELY, UM, PLANNING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING BETTER ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AROUND DIGITAL CONTENT AND PSAS. UM, SO JUST UPDATING ALL OF THE RESOURCES AND KIND OF STRATEGIZING, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE COLLECTIVELY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UM, SO WITH THAT, THOSE ARE MY UPDATES. UM, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THOSE AND THEN I CAN TURN IT OVER TO NAVEEN. COMMISSIONER WISE. YEAH. IF, UM, IF WHEN, AND IF YOU LEARN THAT THE ETHICS, THERE'S AN ETHICS PACKAGE MOVING FORWARD MM-HMM . AND THERE'S A, A MEETING OR, OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, IF IT'S GONNA GO BEFORE COUNCIL, WOULD YOU BE SURE TO LET US KNOW? OH YEAH, OF COURSE. AS OPPOSED AS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING OR MM-HMM . WHENEVER IT IS. JUST, JUST KEEP US POSTED ON THAT. YES. 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE, WE MIGHT WANNA BE THERE OR FOLLOW IT ONLINE DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR SITUATION WAS. YEP, OF COURSE. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ME TOO. YES. OH YEAH. YOU GUYS ARE ALL BE I'LL. I'LL BE BLASTING EVERYBODY. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL. THANK YOU. HEATHER, WITH THE, UH, FOR THE 15 CASES, I IMAGINE THOSE ARE 15 OPEN ALLEGATIONS. MM-HMM . AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS, THAT'S SOLELY FINE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT READILY AVAILABLE. WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED IN TERMS OF, UH, WHO'S MANAGING, UH, THE INVESTIGATION OF THOSE HR LEGAL? MOST [01:40:01] OF THEM, UM, THERE'S A, A GROUP THAT I GOT IN THIS WEEK THAT I HAVEN'T GONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND ASSIGNED YET, BUT PRIMARILY THESE ARE, UH, DEPARTMENT LEVEL INVESTIGATIONS. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. UM, SO HR IS TYPICALLY LOOPED IN AS WELL. 'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN AN ALLEGATION STARTS AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL INVESTIGATION, IT BECOMES CLEAR AT SOME POINT IN THE INVESTIGATION THAT HR NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED. UM, SO A LOT OF TIMES THE BOTH THE DIRECTOR OF THAT SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT AND THE DIRECTOR OF HR ARE, UM, ON THE MEMO THAT GOES OUT. ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS JUST, YOU KIND OF INCLUDE THIS AS YOU DO ON YOUR REGULAR REPORT, BUT THEN HAVE MAYBE HAVE A TABLE SHOWING, YOU KNOW, WHICH DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY THEY RESIDE IN. OKAY. AND HOW FAR ALONG THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF JUST STARTING OR GETTING INTO CONCLUSION, THINGS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . DRAFTED REPORT. GOT, THANK YOU. IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MORALES? NO. COMMISSIONER NOVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THE REPORT SO FAR? NO. THA NO. THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO NAVEEN, UH, TO CLOSE THIS ITEM OUT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON AND EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UM, I AM EXCITED TO OH, THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU A PRESENTATION OR A MORE SUCCINCT VERSION OF A PRESENTATION I GAVE TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE CORPS, UH, DEMONSTRATING MY WORK OR, UM, SOME OF MY WORK AND TASKS THAT I GOT TO PERFORM IN MY TIME WITH THE OET. AND JUST TO START OFF WITH A LITTLE INTRODUCTION, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER GIVEN A FORMAL INTRODUCTION. SO MY NAME IS NAVEEN. UM, I GRADUATED FROM CALIFORNIA STATE LONG BEACH STATE UNIVERSITY OF LONG BEACH LAST SUMMER WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN APPLIED STATISTICS AND A MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE. AND ONE OF MY DESIRES WAS TO FIND A WAY TO UTILIZE BOTH, UM, UM, AND MAKE STATISTICS, UH, INVOLVED IN PUBLIC POLICY MAKING. AND I THINK DEFINITELY I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THAT IN THIS INTERNSHIP AS I'LL SHARE IN, UH, LATER SLIDES. I KIND OF GOT MY INTRODUCTION TO VOLUNTEERING IN SERVICE BY WORKING WITH MONTSERRAT IN, UH, VOLUNTEERING, UM, A LITTLE WHILE AGO. AND, UM, I DID SO DURING MY YEARS IN COLLEGE, UM, WITH SOME ENCOURAGEMENT ALSO FROM MY FORMER PROFESSOR, DR. UH, MATTHEW MENDES GARCIA, UM, WHO HELPED ME A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL. AND, UM, I GOT TO REACH OUT TO HER RECENTLY, AND I WENT FOR THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC SERVICE CORPS, WHICH WAS A VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC SERVICE. UM, I FEEL PERSONALLY VERY HONORED THAT I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS. I'M THE ONLY BLOG PUBLIC SERVICE CORPS FELLOW, I THINK, IN THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS MAKES ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT SPECIAL. BUT BEING IN THIS, UM, GROUP, I REALLY ENJOY THE TIME HERE. UM, BEING INVOLVED IN HELPING LONG BEACH RESIDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FEEL GREATER CONFIDENCE TOWARDS THEIR INSTITUTIONS, UH, TO ME WAS AN ADMIRABLE PURSUIT. SO TO GET INTO SOME OF MY, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES AS AN INTERN FOR THE OET, UM, I ATTENDED, UH, VARIOUS ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY RELATED MEETINGS, INCLUDING, OF COURSE, THE ETHICS COMMISSION, UM, OFTEN WORKING WITH LILIANA, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, TO PREPARE NOTES, COMPREHENSIVE NOTES AND MATERIAL ON MEETINGS, UM, TO HELP, UH, KEEP, UM, THE TEAM UP TO DATE. UM, AND I GOT TO WORK, UH, FOR ONE EXAMPLE ON THE, UM, OLYMPIC GAMES ADVISORY EVENT. UM, IT WAS A ONE TIME EVENT THAT, UH, WAS VERY EXCITING, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, WITH TYLER AND JORGE I REMEMBER. UM, AND, UM, I GOT TO HELP CREATE TRAININGS, UH, WORKSHOPS AND, UM, INVOLVED IN PUBLIC RECORDS PREPARATIONS WITH THE PRA TEAM, UM, AND WITH THE MARCO ETHICS TEAM AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ATTENDED, I ATTENDED SOME OF THOSE TRAININGS THAT WE DID IN THE PAST. UM, PROPER REDUCTIONS TRAINING, UM, PROPER RECORDS PREPARATION, TRAINING, AND, UM, HELPING TO CREATE A FLOW CHART FOR THE LENSES, UM, THAT I THINK YOU SAW EARLIER. AND I INITIATED A WORK ON, UM, WORK ON LAUNCH AND LEARN THAT WE DID IN THE PAST, UH, WHEN, UH, HEATHER HAD A LOT ON OUR PLATE, I THINK WAS VERY BUSY TO DO. SO, UM, I WORKED WITH, UH, MEGAN AND OTHERS IN THE TEAM TO HELP DEVELOP THAT. UH, I HELPED, UH, MODERNIZE THE, UH, CITY ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, I THINK JORGE'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. THAT'S A PROJECT THAT HE'S WORKING ON. UM, I GOT TO UP UPDATE OR UPDATE THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS TO A, THE MODERN TEMPLATE AND TO SORT OF LIKE CREATE A STARTING POINT TO INITIATE THE REVIEW PROCESS AMONGST VARIOUS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN LONG BEACH. UM, I PARTICIPATED [01:45:01] IN VARIOUS WORKSHOPS OFFERED BY THE CITY, OF COURSE, AND PROBABLY THE PUBLIC SERVICE CORPS TO IMPROVE MY KNOWLEDGE OF LONG BEACH SERVICES AND GOVERNMENT. AND, UM, I HELPED THE PRA TEAM MANAGE PR REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS, UM, UH, WHEN THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, PILING UP FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY AS OF LATE. UM, IT'S BEEN, UM, AND IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE, BUT ALSO VERY REELING LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS. IT'S BEEN VERY EXCITING. UM, I USED MIRO AND SCRIBE AND LIKE OTHER SOFTWARE, VISUAL SOFTWARE PLATFORMS TO, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH, UM, ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, A STRUCTURAL ORGANIZATION PROJECT WHERE WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO SORT OF UPDATE OUR TEAMS CHANNEL, UM, IN MICROSOFT. UM, AND, UM, SOME WORK, OR RATHER, UM, SOME INFORM INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO OUR INTERNAL L VNET SITE. UM, I GOT TO UTILIZE CANVA TO ASSIST LIL LILIANA, WHO WAS MAINLY IN CHARGE OF THE NEWSLETTERS, BUT I GOT TO HELP HER A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT. AND, UM, ALSO ADDITIONALLY PREPARING VISUALLY PRESENTABLE DOCUMENTS, UM, SUCH AS THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST. WE ALL GOT TO WORK ON THAT AS WELL. UM, I, I WORKED INITIALLY WITH THE FORMER MANAGERIAL ASSISTANT, I THINK HER NAME WAS ADRIANA, TO CREATE LIKE A BASIC SPREADSHEET FOR WHAT IS NOW SOMETHING SO MUCH GRANDER, THE STRATEGIC ROADMAP, UM, WORK ON JUST BEGINNING THAT PROCESS. UM, I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PITI THINK HOMELESS COUNT, UM, THAT TOOK PLACE, I THINK ANNUALLY WITH LIL LIANA ALONGSIDE A FEW OTHERS, UM, VOLUNTEERS. AND IT WAS A ALSO VERY REVEALING PROCESS. WE WOKE UP AT 4:00 AM OR THREE SOMETHING TO GET TO WORK ON THAT. AND IT WAS, IT WAS, I THINK, SOMETHING THAT I ENJOYED OR APPRECIATED DOING. YOU KNOW, SERVICE IS IMPORTANT IN THAT ASPECT. UM, AND TO GET TO MY TWO MAIN PROJECTS THAT I GOT TO COVER IN THIS PRESENTATION AND WORK ON WAS, UM, RELATED TO ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY. SO, UM, ON THE ETHICS SIDE, UM, TANGENTIALLY WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, UPDATING THEM, KEEPING, UM, UP TO DATE ON THOSE. AND THE SECOND PROJECT WAS, UM, INITIATING THE PROCESS TO CREATE A DASHBOARD FOR THE PRA REQUEST FOR THE PRA TEAM. UM, IT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS AND, UM, CURRENTLY WE'VE SORT OF LAID A GROUNDWORK TO START WORKING ON THAT FOR THE FUTURE. SO, TO GET STARTED WITH, UM, SOME ASPECTS OF THIS FIRST PROJECT THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WAS THE AR MODERNIZATION PROJECT. UM, WHERE, UH, WE, UH, COMPARE AND CONTRAST THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT CURRENT AR LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER MODERNIZING THEM. THAT, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER JORGE HAD CREATED FOR, UM, US TO UTILIZE. THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO CREATE A STANDARDIZATION OF AR. SO THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH MODERN NECESSITIES AND REQUIREMENTS, ARE ACCESSIBLE, READABLE, AND HAVE A UNIFORM PATTERN. A DEFAULT FORMAT WAS PREPARED BY JORGE, AND MY TASK WAS TO CONVERT, UM, THE, ALL THE ARS INTO MORE MODERN TEMPLATE USING THE ONE THAT HE PROVIDED AS A DRAFT. UM, I ENCOUNTERED SOME ROADBLOCKS DURING THE PROCESS, UM, AS THE AGE OF CERTAIN, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS ADMITTED OR AFFECTED MY ABILITY TO TRANSFER THEM DIRECTLY FROM ONE TO ANOTHER. SOME OF THEM WERE IMAGES, SO I PICKED UP HOW TO UTILIZE ADOBE ACROBAT, A SOFTWARE THAT YOU CAN USE TO CONVERT IMAGES TO TEXT IF THERE IS TEXT ON AN IMAGE. UM, AND I WAS ABLE TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF CONVERTING THOSE DOCUMENTS. UM, UM, SOME OF THE REALLY OLDER ONES ARE LIKE, UM, THE PICTURES HAD LIKE GRAINY, UM, ASPECTS TO THEM, SO THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO TRANSFER. BUT, UM, NEVERTHELESS, LIKE THIS PROCESS HELPED ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THAT SOFTWARE AND HELPED ME MOVE FORWARD WITH UPDATING THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS. UM, AFTER THAT, THIS, I THINK YOU MAY, YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY KNOWN THE JORGE HAS UPDATED YOU WITH WHAT IS NOW GOING ON IN THE FUTURE WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS. JORGE AND MICHAEL QUINN, I THINK ARE WORKING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET THAT WORKED ON BY THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, AS WELL. UM, SO JUST SOME BASIC RESULTS. I SORT OF ALREADY GOT TO IT, BUT JUST, UM, SOME MAIN TAKEAWAYS THAT I WANTED TO COVER. SORRY. UM, ULTIMATELY THIS PROJECT TAUGHT ME TO BE MORE EFFICIENT OVER TIME AND TO UTILIZE SOFTWARE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ME, UM, TO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLY THAT I CAN TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS. AND, UM, WHEN CONTENT OR INFORMATION ABOUT RULES OR ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS WERE ABOVE MY KNOWLEDGE OR I DIDN'T KNOW SOMETHING, I LEARNED TO REACH OUT TO JORGE AND TO HEATHER, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, GET ADVICE ON HOW TO PROPERLY DO THINGS AND DO THEM CORRECTLY. UH, THIS AS THIS WAS ONE OF MY FIRST PROJECTS, THIS WAS REALLY LIKE A LEARN LEARNING, UM, AS I GO KIND OF SITUATION. IT WAS REALLY FUN. UM, LONG BEACH ARS, UM, ARE VERY THOROUGH. DEFINITELY, I WANT TO GIVE IT THAT VERY, VERY THOROUGH, AND THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THEM. AND, UM, IT REALLY GAVE ME RESPECT [01:50:01] AS TO HOW MUCH EFFORT WENT INTO CREATING THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY EXIST AND ARE SO COMPREHENSIVELY, YOU KNOW, RECORDED, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG DEAL. UM, AND ULTIMATELY I WAS ABLE TO CONVERT, UM, THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE BY THE WAY. IT'S UP THERE. UM, WAS ABLE TO CONVERT, UM, THESE DOCUMENTS INTO THE MODERN FORMAT. AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE FUTURE WITH THESE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS. UM, SO FOR THIS NEXT PROJECT, UH, REALLY QUICKLY, UM, SO I KNOW HEATHER HAD ALREADY MENTIONED IT. UM, THE PRA TEAM AT TIMES STRUGGLED A LITTLE BIT, UH, WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS, UM, IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO LIKE, KEEP EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO WE SORT OF LIKE DECIDED TO GET FORWARD, MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT TO HELP IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS, UM, ACROSS, UM, PRA AND THE LIAISONS THAT WORK WITH US. UM, SO WE NEEDED TO HAVE LIKE A VISUAL COMPREHENSIVE VISUAL DATA OF THE PERFORMANCE OF PRA SPEED AND JUST IN GENERAL, LIKE WHO HAS WHAT PS HOW MANY REQUESTS THEY HAVE, UM, IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS. AND I GOT TO USE A SOFTWARE CALLED A POWER BI, UM, IN THE TEAM THAT, UM, I SORT OF LIKE LEARNED ON THE SPOT HOW TO USE BECAUSE, UH, I WILL EXPLAIN IN A MINUTE, UM, THE WORK TO VISUALIZE, COMPARE AND COMPILE DATA POINTS OVER TIME BECOMES EASIER, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT AND OTHERS. UM, IN THE FUTURE FOR THE OET, THE NEED FOR THIS PROCESS STEMS FROM A STRUGGLE TO COLLABORATE WITH PEERLESS, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER. AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT MY BACKGROUND IN STATISTICS WOULD MAKE THIS A, UH, WORKABLE PROJECT FOR ME. SOMETHING I COULD START OFF AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, INITIATE FOR THE FUTURE. UM, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE DATA VISUALS TO DEMONSTRATE IMPORTANT DATA POINTS ABOUT PRA REQUESTS, UM, PER DEPARTMENT. UH, MY EXPERIENCE, UM, IN STATISTICAL TOOLS WERE LARGELY THROUGH A PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE CALLED R, WHICH I HAD USED EXTENSIVELY IN COLLEGE. UM, AND I LEARNED HOW TO CREATE VISUALS THROUGH THOSE. BUT IT WAS A BIG LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME TO WORK, UM, WITH MEGAN AND SAMANTHA TO LEARN TOGETHER HOW TO USE POWER BI, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, USE SOME OF THOSE SKILLS THAT I LEARNED FROM OUR AND IMPLEMENT THEM THERE SO THAT EVERYONE CAN BE ON, UH, TOP OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE UTILIZE THE SOFTWARE FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. UM, FOR, FROM THE DATA, I LEARNED HOW MANY PRAS SOME DEPARTMENTS MANAGER MANAGE OVER OTHERS, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, HOW MANY REQUESTS EACH DEPARTMENT HANDLES. UM, THE DATA WAS COLLECTED, UM, BY AND COMPILED BY THE PRA TEAM USING A SOFTWARE CALLED GOV QA. UM, AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR THE PROJECT, UM, BUT DID HAVE TO BE RESTRUCTURED AT TIMES TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR POWER BI TO WORK ON THE SPOT. UM, SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS, UM, INITIALLY I DID HAVE A LOT OF TECH ISSUES, UH, AND DISCONNECTS THAT PREVENTED ME FROM BEING ABLE TO WORK ON THIS AT AN EARLIER POINT. BUT I WAS ABLE TO WORK, UM, ON THIS AFTER, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOFTWARE INSTALLED AND, UH, COMPUTER ISSUES WERE RESOLVED. AND AFTER, AT THAT POINT, I WAS ABLE TO, IN THAT WAITING TIME, LEARN ON MY OWN HOW TO USE POWER BI, UM, UTILIZING TRAINING VIDEOS AND, AND, UH, OTHER INFORMATION TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH THE METHOD OF USING POWER BI TO VISUALIZE DATA. AND ONE PART OF OUR GOAL WAS TO, WAS, WAS COMPLETE. IT WAS COMPLETE AS WE HAD SUCCESSFULLY LEARNED HOW TO CREATE VISUALS, UM, BY IMPORTING FILES, UM, TO APPROPRIATE DATA TYPES AND DISPLAYING THEM BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, UH, LEARNED HOW TO FIX THAT. UM, IT WAS A STRUGGLE IN THE BEGINNING, BUT CONSTANT TINKERING LED US ALL TO CREATE VISUALLY AESTHETIC, UH, VISUALS THAT DISPLAYED INFORMATION BY THE CATEGORY THAT WE WANT TO USE, WHICH I WILL SHOW IN A MINUTE. UM, AND REALLY QUICKLY, MY THREE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS PROJECT WAS THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE ON WELL PAST, UM, MY TIME HERE IN THE OET. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SAD BECAUSE WE PUT IN ALL OF US, PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS. IT'S VERY EXCITING, BUT ALSO IT'S GONNA BE WELL PAST MY TIME THAT A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, BIG ACTIONS WILL GET TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND VISUALIZED, UM, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC FACING AND, UM, COMPILED ALTOGETHER. UM, AND JUST BECAUSE A PARTICULAR SOFTWARE PROGRAM IS MORE USER-FRIENDLY, WHICH I MAY HAVE DESCRIBED EARLIER, WHICH POWER BI IS LIKE, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN USE IT. IT'S NOT DIRECTLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROGRAM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO OTHER THINGS TO GET TO IT, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT SMOOTHER. WE ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF ISSUES WITH CONNECTIVITY, UH, CONNECTING TO OUR DOMAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, UM, WHICH USUALLY IN MY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE, YOU CAN JUST LIKE CODE IT TO ACCOMMODATE TO THAT OR LIKE, YOU CAN FIND LITTLE GRANULAR DETAILS TO MAKE THINGS WORK. BUT IN THIS ONE, IT WAS MORE LIKE STRUCTURED, WHICH WAS HELPFUL TO KNOW. UM, BUT, UM, IT DID HELP US STILL ULTIMATELY PRODUCE THE VISUALS THAT WE NEEDED TO. AND ULTIMATELY WE PUT TIME ASIDE TO WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER AS A TEAM. AND IT WAS A VERY REWARDING EXPERIENCE IN GENERAL THAT HELPED BREAK DOWN [01:55:01] THE CONCEPTS FASTER AND CREATED A STRONG DRIVE FOR US TO, UM, PROGRESS THROUGH THE PROJECT. UM, ULTIMATELY WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, TRAVERSE THROUGH POWER BI TO FIND THE BEST WAYS TO VISUALIZE DATA. AND THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE TO, UM, COMPILE THE VARIOUS DATA POINTS INTO A GRAND DASHBOARD THAT CAN BE CONSISTENTLY UPDATED WITH A FRONT FACING WEBSITE, UM, LIKE I THINK A FEW OTHER CITIES HAVE MANAGED TO DO. UM, SO HERE'S WHAT ONE VISUAL LOOKS LIKE FROM POWER BI. WE HAVE, UM, PRAS PER DEPARTMENT AS LIKE A VARIABLE OF INTEREST IN THIS GRAPHIC OVER HERE. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS A BAR CHART THAT, UM, DISPLAYS THE DATA. THE SECOND ONE IS A PIE CHART, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WAS A TREE DIAGRAM. SO NAVIGATING HOW TO USE THESE, UM, VISUAL DEMONSTRATIONS WITH THE CERTAIN VARIABLES THAT WE WANNA UTILIZE. UM, THE ONE THAT I GOT TO WORK WITH WAS A RELATIVELY SIMPLE SPREADSHEET, SO THERE WASN'T TOO MANY VARIABLES TO WORK WITH, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT VISUALS YOU CAN HAVE FOR DIFFERENT FUTURE DATA SETS THAT COULD HAVE MORE VARIABLES AND, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE DIFFERENT VISUALS, UM, I THINK IS A GOOD STARTING POINT TO GET TO THAT POINT IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND JUST TO SORT OF CONCLUDE, UH, MY PROJECT, UM, WHILE THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY OF THE SAME TOPIC WHEN IT'S MORE LIKE RULES ETHICS RELATED, WHEN IT'S MORE TRANSPARENCY RELATED, IT TAUGHT ME THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING TOGETHER IN A GROUP, UM, TO UTILIZE ONE ANOTHER'S KNOWLEDGE ON SPECIFIC SUBJECTS. UM, ON AR. HEATHER AND JORGE WERE CLEARLY VERY MUCH FAMILIAR WITH THE STRUCTURE AND LAWS AND WERE ABLE TO HELP ME GUIDE, HELP GUIDE ME THROUGH KNOWING HOW TO NAVIGATE THROUGH AR TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS. AND ON PRE DASHBOARD, UM, THE PRE DASHBOARD, MEGAN AND SAMANTHA HAD EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUBJECT AND COMPILED SIGNIFICANT DATA FOR ME TO VISUALIZE AND USED MY STATISTICAL BACKGROUND. UM, UM, VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THEM. AND, UM, BOTH PROJECTS FAMILIARIZED ME WITH SOFTWARE I HAD NOT USED FREQUENTLY AND HELPED ME COLLABORATE FREQUENTLY WITH MY TEAM. I LEARNED DO NOT BE AFRAID TO USE UNFAMILIAR SOFTWARE, EVEN IF IT'S INTIMIDATING AT FIRST, WHICH POWER BI DEFINITELY WAS FOR ME. UM, BUT ADOBE ACROBAT, POWER BI CANVA MIRROR, THESE WERE, UH, SOFTWARES THAT I AM GLAD I REALLY I'M EXPERIENCED IN USING NOW AND I CAN USE FOR THE FUTURE. AND I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW MY APPRECIATION FOR THE OET FOR GIVING ME LIKE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUPPORT AND HELP AND GUIDANCE FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS. AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SUPPORT. AND FINALLY, UM, THANK YOU, A SINCERE THANK YOU FOR ME, UM, TO EVERYONE IN THE OET, THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE TRUST AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE THAT I'VE GOTTEN THROUGHOUT THIS JOURNEY AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PER UH, PRESENTATION. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, I AM, UH, RIGHT HERE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US WHAT YOU'VE DONE. THAT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHERE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA ARE YOU GOING AND WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO WITH ALL OF THIS? ARE YOU GONNA STAY IN GOVERNMENT OR, UM, I AM MOVING TO SAN JOSE, UM, AT THE MOMENT. UM, THAT'S WHERE MY FAMILY'S FROM. SO, UH, ONE DAY I JUST DREAMED TO MOVE TO SAN FRANCISCO, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY, . UM, WE ALL DREAMED, OH, A LOT OF US DREAM OF MOVING THERE. ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE. UM, SO MY GOAL RIGHT NOW, OR DESIRE, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, UM, AT THE MOMENT I KIND OF WANT TO DO, UM, WHAT MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN DOING RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS MM-HMM . AND JUST TEACHING. UM, I, PREVIOUS TO THIS JOB, I WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTOR AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY OF UNIVERSITY OF LONG BEACH, WHERE I TAUGHT BIOSTATS AND BUSINESS STATISTICS. AND, UM, IT WAS A FUN PROCESS FOR ME. SO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO LIKE GO BACK TO THOSE ROOTS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, FIND SOMETHING, UM, THAT'S KIND OF RELATED TO THAT. UM, SUBSTITUTE TEACHING IS SOMETHING VERY EXCITING FOR ME, BUT EVENTUALLY I DO WANT TO GO TO GRAD SCHOOL AND GET A MASTER'S DEGREE. UM, WHAT EXACTLY IN, I AM STILL CONTEMPLATING THE PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION IS VERY, VERY APPEALING, BUT, UH, STATISTICS IS ALSO THERE. SO A LOT OF THINGS FOR ME TO STILL THINK ABOUT, BUT AT THE MOMENT, THAT'S WHAT I PLAN ON DOING. WELL, GOOD LUCK TO YOU IN ALL OF YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL. THANK YOU, NAHAL. OH, UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS. . SORRY. NO, NO, NO PROBLEM. UH, SO F FIRST QUE DID. NOW DID YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. DID YOU, UH, DID YOU SAY YOUR, YOUR MINOR'S IN POLITICAL SCIENCE, BUT YOUR MAJOR WAS IN PHYSICS? UH, STATISTICS. STATISTICS. OKAY. I MISSED THAT. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. UM, YEAH, AND GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH REGARD TO POWER BI. UH, I HOPE NOW THAT YOU'RE A POWER BI AFICIONADO, I HOPE THAT COMES IN HANDY FOR YOU. UH, OUTTA CURIOSITY, UH, UH, YOU WERE WORKING ON THERS AND MAKE THEM MORE READABLE, [02:00:01] OR I THINK MORE READABLE, CORRECT? MM-HMM . UH, WAS THERE ANY TYPE OF, UH, PRO, UH, PROGRAM YOU PUT 'EM THROUGH, LIKE FLESH KINCADE OR SOMETHING TO GET A, WHAT THEIR READING INDEX WAS? NO, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T THINK I'VE SPECIFICALLY MEASURED THE READING INDEXED. I MORE SO FOLLOWED LIKE GUIDE GUIDELINES THAT WERE KIND OF ALREADY CREATED FOR ME, THANKFULLY BY JORGE. BUT, UM, I DID UTILIZE, YOU KNOW, ADOBE TO MAKE SURE THAT WORDS ARE TRANSFERABLE FROM LIKE AN IMAGE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO READ WORDS IN AN IMAGE. UM, PUTTING IT IN ONTO AN ACTUAL TEXT DOCUMENT MAKES IT A LOT MORE LEGIBLE. BUT YEAH, I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THAT. UH, I MORE SO FOLLOWED, UH, JUST THE STRUCTURED GUIDELINES THAT I WAS GIVEN. NO, I THINK ALL OF US ON THE COMMISSION ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THE, ALL YOUR WORK, BUT THE AI, THE AR WORK, ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER DE BE WHO HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THERS. OH, THANK YOU. I I DO HAVE TO ASK, WHAT IS THE OLDEST AR GREAT QUESTION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING FOR ME. MM-HMM . I SAW LIKERS THAT CONTAIN LIKE EMAIL DETAILS FROM LIKE 1983, CORRECT? ? YEAH, I SAW A COUPLE OF THOSE. YEAH. YEAH, SO I THINK 1983 WAS THE OLDEST DAY I SAW PERIOD. BUT THE OLDEST AR OR, UM, THAT I THINK WAS, YOU KNOW, SIGNED INTO THE MOST OLDEST ONE THAT WAS RECENTLY REVISED, I THINK WAS IN 2007, WHICH IS THE ONE, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME, LET ME PULL THAT UP REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT, UH, RIGHT HERE. I THINK IT WAS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE THAT I FOUND WAS THE OLDEST THAT WAS EFFECTIVE OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, INTO LAW. OH YEAH. 2007, WHICH IS PROBABLY, PROBABLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF GOVERNMENT, PROBABLY NOT THAT OLD, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW. NOT EXACTLY. WELL, WE, WE BENEFITED FROM YOUR, UH, HELPING AND FINISH UP AND KIND OF WRAP UP THE PRA. 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. UH, PROBABLY WE RAN OUT OF TIME WITH THE AR LOSING YOU. SO AGAIN, THANKS. GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. AND I WANNA THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I, I, I CAN SEE THAT WHAT YOU'RE LEAVING BEHIND WILL GROW AND WILL BE OF BENEFIT, ENORMOUS BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND TO THE COMMISSION. WHEN WE LOOK AT PRAS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THAT YOU'LL, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS DASHBOARD NOW EXISTS. I THINK IT'LL BE WONDERFUL. SO THANK YOU. AND, UM, YOU'VE MADE A LASTING CONTRIBUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMISSION? I BELIEVE A NOVE HAS HIS HAND UP. OH, I'M SORRY. PLEASE. COMMISSIONER NOVE. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NAVEEN. I JUST WANNA THANK NAVEEN FOR, UM, ALL THE TIME, UH, YOU'VE GIVEN TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND OET. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE TEAM, UH, AND GOOD LUCK WITH ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM OR DIAL STAR NINE. CALLING IN. SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE TO A VOTE. COMMISSIONER WEISS AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES? AYE. COMMISSIONER D BENEDICTUS? AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVE. AYE. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. AYE. CHAIR P*****K. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, [7. 25-55477 Recommendation to discuss potential agenda items for future Commission meetings.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEETINGS. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED A SECOND. SECOND. THAT WAS A MOTION BY WEISS. SECOND BY MORALES. THANK YOU. AND DO I HAVE ANY INPUT? OKAY, WELL, I HAVE INPUT ON THIS ONE. . UM, I THINK HEATHER MENTIONED THAT, UH, HEATHER AND VICE CHAIR COLEMAN AND I DID OUR ANNUAL, UH, MEET AND GREET WITH COUNCILWOMAN THRASH AND COOK AND TOOK, UM, AND, AND SHE RAISED A VERY INTERESTING ISSUE, SPECIFICALLY, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, WHICH APPLIES TO CURRENT EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY AND HOW THEY USE SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, BUT WHAT SHE ADDRESSED IS THE WHOLE ISSUE OF, [02:05:02] UH, SOCIAL MEDIA OWNERSHIP, OWNERSHIP OF WEB ADDRESSES, TRANSFER OF, UH, WEBSITES, UH, FOLLOWING AN ELECTION PROCESS, CONTROL OVER WEBSITES, UM, UH, DISTRICT OFFICES AND, UH, HOW THE WEBSITES ARE USED. UM, AND, UH, APPARENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WHERE, UH, A DISTRICT OFFICE WEBSITE DID NOT IMMEDIATELY TRANSFER TO THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE OFFICE. UM, I, I, I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES. THE, THAT'S THE CONTEXT IN WHICH SHE RAISED THE ISSUE. UM, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY ORDINANCE, ET CETERA, UM, WOULD BE A, A GOOD TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE. AND SO I'M SORT OF SEEKING PERMISSION TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA IN THE NEAR FUTURE. YEAH, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I THINK, UM, COMING FROM, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK OUT THERE ALREADY. MM-HMM . YEAH, A LOT OF BENCHMARKING YOU CAN DO THAT ADDRESSES PERSONAL VERSUS, UH, PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE, WHICH ARE, UH, SHOULD BE MONITORED, UH, BY THE CITY. AND, UH, USUALLY THERE'S EVEN CONTROLS SUCH AS, UH, CHANGING OVER MM-HMM . UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE DEADLINES ASSIGNED SO THAT PEOPLE DO MOVE QUICKLY AND RESPECTFULLY, UH, TO TRANSITION INFORMATION AND DATA. UM, BUT ALSO THE HARD WORK IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN INFORMATION OFFICER OR SOMEBODY WHO'S APPOINTED TO, UM, RAISE THESE ISSUES, YOU DO NEED TO CENTRALIZE SOMEBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO SHOULD BE, UM, HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. 'CAUSE USUALLY THEY'RE QUICK FIXES, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? I, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TOO. UM, AND IN TERMS OF IT, I THINK IT, YOU'RE REALLY, YOU'RE PRO I BELIEVE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE FROM, UH, TWO DIFFERENT SIDES. ONE, BOTH THE AUTHORIZED, THE AUTHORIZED USE OF OFFICIAL CITY SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHO HAS THAT AUTHORIZATION AND KIND OF WHAT THEIR, THEIR BOUNDS ARE, UH, WITH THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS. BUT THEN ALSO, UM, ANY LIMITATIONS ON PERSONAL USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA BY REPRESENTATIVES AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT, UH, THOSE LIMITATIONS ARE LEGAL, UH, AT THE SAME TIME OBLIGATIONS AND REMINDING, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WHAT THEIR OBLIGATIONS ARE. UH, AND THEN EVEN GOING SO FAR, 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS COMMISSION ON, UH, NOT JUST, UH, EMPLOYEES AND ELECTEDS, BUT ALSO COMMISSIONERS, UH, AND WHAT COMMISSIONERS CAN AND CANNOT DO. AND IT'D BE ANOTHER EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY REMIND COMMISSIONERS OF WHERE THEIR LIMITATIONS ARE. MM-HMM . ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER, VE NO. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE AGENDA IN THE FUTURE? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM SEVEN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR USE THE STAR NINE DIAL FEATURE NOW. SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE TO A VOTE. COMMISSIONER WEISS AYE. COMMISSIONER SHOTWELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER MORALES? AYE. COMMISSIONER D BENEDICTUS? AYE. COMMISSIONER NOVE. AYE. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. AYE. CHAIR P*****K. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Ethics Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] PUBLIC COMMENT ON A NON-AGENDA ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR USE THE STAR NINE FEATURE NOW. SCENE. NONE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. I, I, I THINK TECHNICALLY I'M A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC NOW AND I JUST WANNA STATE ON THE RECORD, UM, WHAT A, OH, I, I I BELIEVE YOU WOULD TECHNICALLY NO, TECHNICALLY NOT. WE, WE COULD DO IT IN ANNOUNCEMENTS. I HAVE, BUT, BUT I WANNA SAY THIS ON THE RECORD. YEAH, YOU CAN PUT IT FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS. OH, FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. I'LL WAIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. [02:10:05] NOW WE MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS [ANNOUNCEMENTS] . UM, WELL, BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING. SO, UM, WE ARE GOING TO CELEBRATE THE TENURE OF THE THREE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE LEAVING. I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A TALK I WAS GONNA GIVE, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE IT AT THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO GET THERE ON TIME. SO, UM, , RIGHT? YEAH. NO, NO, THAT'S OKAY. I'M, YOU, YOU, YOU THREE ARE AMAZING TRAILBLAZERS. YOU, YOU SET THIS COMMISSION ON A COURSE FOR THE FUTURE. YOU, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A BOOK TO GO BY. YOU CREATED THE BOOK THAT CONTINUES TO LIVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE AFTER YOU'RE OFF THE COMMISSION. UM, AND I PERSONALLY AS A COMMISSIONER, BUT MORE AS A CITIZEN AND RESIDENT IN LONG BEACH, CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. WELL, NOW THAT YOU MADE ME TEARY-EYED , I SAW SUSAN ON SUNDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY NIGHT AND TOLD HER THAT AS THIS DAY HAS BEEN GETTING CLOSER, I'VE BEEN GETTING A LITTLE MORE, UH, FOR CLUMPED ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE THIS EMOTIONAL ABOUT LEAVING, BUT IT HAS TRULY BEEN A PLEASURE OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS TO WORK WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I WASN'T SURE AT THE TIME THE THOUGHT OF APPLYING TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION WAS RAISED, THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO BECAUSE I WAS REALLY ENJOYING THE FUN OF PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT ULTIMATELY THE DRAW OF BEING ABLE TO BE PART OF SOMETHING FROM THE GROUND UP AND BEING ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING WAS TOO GREAT ALLURE FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN THE PROCESS OF RETIRING. SO, UM, I, I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE HAD A BETTER STARTING COMMISSION, AND I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE FOUND BETTER COMMISSIONERS TO FILL IN FOR, FOR THE ONES THAT LEFT US EARLIER THAN POSSIBLE. AND AS YOU SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE A BOOK TO GO BY, YOU WROTE THE BOOK. BUT I THINK WE HAVE LEFT, UH, A VERY STRONG LEGACY TO BE BUILT UPON. AND AS YOU SAW FROM THE REPORT THAT SUSAN AND JP AND I WORKED ON, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO. AND AS I'VE SAID, EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING ON TO ANOTHER COMMISSION, I'M ALWAYS HERE AND AVAILABLE TO, UM, TO TALK WITH YOU, TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT YOU NEED BECAUSE I THINK THE CITY IS ONLY STRONGER THE STRONGER THAT THE, UM, THE COMMISSION IS THAT THIS, THIS COMMISSION IN PARTICULAR IS. SO THANK YOU ALL OF YOU AND, UH, I EXPECT YOU TO STAY IN PART OF MY LIFE AS WE GO FORWARD. YEAH. YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME. . OKAY. . UM, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER WEISS AND I ARE AROUND FOR YEAH, YOU'LL GIVE YOUR SPEECH LATER. YOU'RE GETTING YOUR DINNER TONIGHT THOUGH. YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANOTHER DINNER . JUST SAY, JUST SAY THOUGH THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN AN ADVENTURE. IT'S BEEN A GREAT ADVENTURE WITH ALL OF YOU. AND, UM, I DO WANNA THANK THE STAFF VERY MUCH FOR HELPING AND GUIDING US THROUGH IT, UM, WHEN WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TO, TO WORK WITH, SO TO SPEAK. UM, HEATHER, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'D BE IF, IF YOU HADN'T, YOU KNOW, DONE ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE DONE TO DEVELOP THE, THE EDUCATION PROGRAM, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T THE COMMISSION. I MEAN, WE WOULD SAY SOME WORDS AND PASS SOME IDEAS ALONG, BUT YOU'VE DONE, YOU'VE DONE REALLY A GREAT JOB. AND, UM, ASHLEY, I HAVEN'T EVEN REALLY MET YOU, BUT, UM, WE REALLY HAVE APPRECIATED THE WORK OF THE, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE OFFICE. AND IT'S, IT'S MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE, UM, IN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO PASS ALONG, HOPEFULLY FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT IN THE, IN THE LONG TERM. SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE NOTICED. AND IT SHOULD BE REMEMBERED FOR SURE WHEN YOUR BUDGET IS CONSIDERED BY THE, UM, BY THE, THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONS AND ESPECIALLY THIS ONE THAT, UM, WE HAVE THAT KIND OF BACKUP. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . AND THE CITY CLERK. IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THESE MEETINGS WOULDN'T HAPPEN. . THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. VE UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, SORRY I CAN'T BE THERE IN PERSON. I HAD ANTICIPATED, UH, SAYING GOODBYE TO YOU IN PERSON, [02:15:01] UH, EITHER GIVING YOU A HANDSHAKE OR A HUG. UH, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL THREE OF YOU FOR YOUR INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, THAT YOU WERE WITH THE COMMISSION. UM, YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, UM, CLEARLY HAS MADE AN IMPACT. UM, AND YOU DEFINITELY, LIKE, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID YOU LEAVE, YOU DEFINITELY LEAVE BEHIND A LEGACY OF HARD WORK AND, UH, ETHICAL LEADERSHIP THAT WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE THIS BODY AND BODIES MOVING FORWARD. SO, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WITH THAT WE [ADJOURNMENT] MOVE TO ADJOURN. YES. IT'S FIVE 16. BEFORE WE BREAK, BREAK, HEATHER, CAN YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF ALL OF US UP HERE? OKAY, WELL, WE'RE BREAKING BUT, OH YEAH, WE'RE AJOUR BEFORE WE MOVE. YEAH, WE WILL ADJOURN AT FIVE 16. WE'RE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.