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UM, THE FINAL HONOR
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION DURING, OR ARE YOU DOING THE PUBLISH? YES.
MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, PLEASE SPEAK OR PLEASE SPEAK WHEN CALLED UPON.
IF NOT, I'M SO SORRY YOU GUYS.
LET ME SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MINUTES FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF
SECOND ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY ATTORNEY INTRODUCTIONS ALONG WITH THE DISCUSSION ON FUTURE AND AGENDA ITEMS, THE BROWN ACT AND ROBERT RULE RULES OF ORDER AND MOTION.
WE HAVE OUR, UM, CITY ATTORNEY.
I, SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR FULL NAME? HI, I'M ERO.
I'M A DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY IN CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I'VE BEEN THERE AS I'VE GONE AND OFF FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
I STARTED THERE IN 2015, WORKING IN THE LITIGATION UNIT.
I'VE TRIED A NUMBER OF FEDERAL CASES.
MY PROFESSIONAL PD IS, UH, TITLE VII EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION, 1983 CASES, USE OF FORCE CASES THERE.
TOOK A LITTLE SOJOURN, CAME TO CORPORATE LAW WHILE I WAS THERE.
WORKED WITH BIG LAW FIRM FOR A LITTLE WHILE, UH, LEFT THERE, WENT TO THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHERE I PROSECUTED FINANCIAL FRAUD CRIMES.
AND, UH, 17 200 OTHER PHYSICAL PRACTICES ACTIONS.
CAME BACK TO BEAUTIFUL CITY OF LONG BEACH IN ABOUT 2022, UH, INITIALLY TO, UH, RESUME LITIGATION, UH, WHERE I WAS BEEN POLICE OFFICERS AND POLICE DEPARTMENT PRIMARILY, AND OUR SUPERVISOR AND EMPLOYERS IN EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION CONTEXT.
UH, AND RECENTLY MOVED TO THE DEPARTMENTAL COUNCIL SIDE WHERE I AM IN-HOUSE COUNSEL FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SIGNIFICANT SECTION OF, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND COUNCIL FOR A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING THE ACT AND NOW WAS COMMISSIONED.
UH, AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL.
UM, I HAVE BROUGHT TODAY FOR YOUR READY REFERENCE, BUT NOT FOR A THOROUGH CONVERSATION.
UH, THE BROWN ACT AND ROBERTS RULES TRAINING SLIDES THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED BEFORE SHOULD THE, UH, COMMITTEE SO WISH VERY GLAD TO DO, UH, MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION ON THAT.
UM, I DID ALSO RECEIVE, UH, IN ADVANCE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I NOTICED SOME OF THE
WILL THAT BE CONTINU PLEASE? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO INTERRUPT ME.
UH, YOU HAVE CLARIFICATION, BUT, UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT RELATED TO THE SCOPE OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, AND INTERPRETING ITS THIS FORMATION RESOLUTION AND INTERPLAY WITH THE VERTICALLY MENTAL CODES ON CITY CHARTERS.
I FRAME THE QUESTION HERE FOR MYSELF IS WHAT DOES POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS MEAN AS USED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED, UH, THIS COMMITTEE? UM, AND SO UNDERSTANDING IN THAT CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESOLUTION PROVIDES, AND THIS IS ALMOST A DIRECT QUOTE, THE COMMITTEE IS CREATED FOR THE PURPOSE OF REVIEWING EXISTING OR POTENTIAL PROGRAMS AND SERVICES FOR HOMELESS PERSONS IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND MAKING POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL REGARDING SUCH MATTER.
THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCISE STATEMENT OF IT.
SECTION FOUR OF THE RESOLUTION PROVIDES A LIMITATION ON THAT.
IT SAYS THE COMMITTEE SHALL SERVE AND ACT ONLY IN THE CAPACITY OF A COLLECTIVE ADVISORY BOARD, AND NEITHER THE COMMITTEE, NOR ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER THEREOF, SHALL HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE OR OPERATIONAL DUTIES, NOR DO THEY SUPERVISOR OVERSEE THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY OR IT'S OFFICE.
JUST SUMMARIZING THAT, UM, SINCE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, GO TO THE MAYOR AND CITY
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COUNCIL, I THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL JUST BRIEFLY TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR ROLE IS IN CITY GOVERNANCE.SO PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 0 4 OF THE CITY CHARTER, THE MAYOR'S ROLE IS CHIEF LEGISLATOR.
THOUGH HE DOESN'T VOTE OR CHIEF DOESN'T VOTE ON LEGISLATION OF THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR PUTS FORTH, BUT CAN
THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, HAS ALL OTHER POWERS, UH, ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CITY.
THERE IS ONE LIMITATION PLACED ON THAT IN SECTION 2 0 8 OF THE CITY CHARTER, WHICH PROVIDES THAT NEITHER THE CITY COUNCIL NOR ANY OF ITS COMMUNITIES OR MEMBERS SHALL DICTATE OR ATTEMPT TO DICTATE OR DIRECT THE APPOINTMENT OF ANY PERSON TO ANY OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT BY THE CITY MANAGER, OR BASICALLY GIVE DIRECTION TO ANY STAFF PERSON BETWEEN THESE
UM, SO THE SAME KIND OF LIMITATION ON COUNCIL AUTHORITY AS IT RELATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS RELATED
WITH THAT BACKGROUND, I THINK POLICY RECOMMENDATION AS USED IN THE RESOLUTION HERE IS VERY BROAD.
UM, IT MEANS THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN SUBMIT COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION THAT REGARD CONTINUING, ELIMINATING OR MODIFYING PROGRAMS THAT RELATES TO PROVISION OF HOMELESS SERVICES IN THE CITY CAN TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT DON'T EXIST.
UM, THEY CAN RECOMMEND PRIORITIZING AMONG DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
AS FAR AS PROVISION OF HOMELESS SERVICES GOES, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT, WHAT THE LIMITATIONS ARE AND THE LIMITATIONS ARE THAT THE COMMITTEE CANNOT DIRECT ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR OR CITY EMPLOYEES, BUT BROADLY PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROVISION OF HOMELESS SERVICES AND THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
UH, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I THINK IS RELATED.
I ASK THIS DOES POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PREFERRED TO RECOMMENDATIONS THE COMMITTEE MAY MAKE THAT COULD IMPACT EXISTING OR POTENTIAL PROGRAMS FOR HOMELESS SERVICES IN THE CITY MANAGES.
AND I SAID THAT THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS DO NOT DIRECTLY IMPACT THE PROGRAMS OR POTENTIAL PROGRAMS, BUT THEY CAN BE ADOPTED OR, OR, UH, TAKEN UNDER CONSENT BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN THE ACTIONS OF CITY COUNCIL COULD THEN HAVE THE IMPACT ON CITY PROGRAMS. UM, NEXT WAS THE COMMITTEE'S ANNUAL REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
DO THEY NEED TO BE A PART OF A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THUS PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS TOGETHER AND FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE MADE.
THERE WAS A NOTE THAT THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN 2024.
SO I DID RESEARCH THIS, UM, THROUGH LOOKING AT STATUTE AND ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM 2016 THROUGH 2019.
UM, AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE AGENDAS, UH, LOOKING AT ALL THOSE MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS, THERE WERE TWO INSTANCES OVER THAT, UH, FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH THERE WERE AGENDA ITEMS THAT RELATED TO THIS COMMITTEE.
AND THEY WERE PULLED, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO ALLOCATE MONIES FROM THE MAYOR FUND TOWARDS THE EARNED PARTICULAR PURPOSE OF
SO, AS FAR AS I COULD TELL FROM 2016 TO 2019, THERE WAS NO CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM THAT RELATED TO DISCUSSION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS REPORT.
UH, IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION ON ALLOWING THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE PRESENTED IN PERSON AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS? KNOW SO LONG AS IT'S DONE IN A MANNER THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE BROWN APP.
SO IT HAS TO BE IZED AND HAS TO BE BILLED FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AND ET, ETC.
AND THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION AS WHAT VERIFY MEANS, UH, AS USED IN LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE 2 18 100? SO A GOOD QUESTION, UM, AND, AND A DIFFICULT ONE TO DO AN INTERIM, QUITE FRANKLY, RATHER THAN VAGUE AND AMBIGUOUS.
SO I TOOK A DEEPER DIVE AND TRIED TO FIT IT INTO THE, I USED WHAT WE CALL THE STATUTE CANON OF STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.
WHEN YOU'RE FACED WITH A VAGUE, UH, LANGUAGE IN A STATUTE, WHICH BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAPPENS OCCASIONALLY,
UM, AND SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM AND, AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT YOU TRY TO READ IT CONSISTENTLY WITH SUPERIOR AUTHORITY, RIGHT? SO YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE, THE MOST SUPERIOR AUTHORITY HERE, THAT WOULD BE OUR MUNICIPAL CHARGES AND THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THE COMMITTEE.
THOSE ARE KIND OF THE SUPERIOR, UH, SOURCES OF STATUTORY TRANSFORMATION.
AND THEN READ IT IN A MANNER THAT MAKES IT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ENTIRELY MEANINGLESS IF POSSIBLE.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, NOT VALID OF THE SUPERIOR ORDER.
SO LOOKING AT THAT, UM, AND ANOTHER FAVORITE THING OF, OF A NUMBER OF PRINTED IS TO LOOK AT DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE VAGUE WORDS AND TRY TO FIND A EXPLANATION THAT WORKS.
SO VERIFY, AS USED IN THE CAMBRIDGE DICTIONARY MEANS, QUOTE, PROVE THAT SOMETHING EXISTS OR IS TRUE, OR TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT SOMETHING IS CORRECT, EITHER ONE
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OF THOSE THINGS.SO LOOKING AT MUNICIPAL CODE 2 18 100, WHICH REFERENCES THE REPORTS THAT I BELIEVE IS A REFERENCE TO SECTION 2 18 0 9 OH
THAT SECTION PROVIDES A LIST OF THINGS THAT SHALL BE CONTAINED IN A WRITTEN REPORT.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE ADVISORY BODY.
THE REST OF THOSE THINGS ARE MORE DATA POINT FEE KINDS OF THINGS, LIKE HOW MANY MEETINGS WERE HELD, HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT SUPPORTING THE COMMITTEE, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE, UH, WHAT DOES IT MEAN THEN CITY COUNCIL FAILED VERIFY INFORMATION SUCH AS WITHOUT ATTENDING, UH, EXCLUSION THE NAME OF THE BODY, THE NUMBER OF THE HEARINGS CONDUCTED, THE ATTENDANCE OF THE MEMBERS, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY EXPENDED, SUPPORTED BY, ET CETERA.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL VERIFY THOSE THINGS.
LOOKING AT THE PROCEDURAL HISTORY, AGAIN, RELYING ON THE 2016 THROUGH 29 15 COUNCIL MINUTES AND THE STATUTES HERE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT VERIFYING THE ACCURACY OF THOSE STATEMENTS IS DONE THROUGH THE DRAFTING PROCESS AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES, UH, FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO, UH, WHEN MEETINGS WERE HELD, HOW MANY MEETINGS WERE HELD.
I'LL WHERE YOU GOING FINISH THERE THAT, I MEAN, I MIGHT AS WELL LAND PLAYING MY, SO, SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR DEFINITION IN VERIFY IMPLIES OF ACTION BE IT DOES SITTING OUT DOES.
AND SO BASED UPON THE I BID AND I, I DON'T HEAR ANY ACTION
I HEAR OTHERS INVOLVED, BUT I DON'T HEAR A, A VERIFY ABOUT THIS IS TO ATTEST TO THAT THIS WAS RECEIVED, AND I DON'T, IS THAT HAPPENING? YEAH.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS ANOTHER DEFINITION TO VERIFY.
LIKE WHEN I ENCOUNTERED THE WORD VERIFY IN MY WORK, IT'S TYPICALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF LIKE DISCOVERY RESPONSES OR AN OATH THAT SOMEBODY GIVES IT A DEPOSITION.
I THINK THAT IMPOSING THAT DEFINITION OF VERIFIED IN MISCONDUCT IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT WOULD CREATE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SUPERIOR LOSS HERE.
WE WOULD BE IMPOSING AN OBLIGATION ON CITY COUNCIL FROM THIS COMMISSION TO DO AN ILL-DEFINED PROCESS.
SO THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME AFFIRMATIVE PROCESS THAT WAS TO BE TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN RELATION TO THESE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE DOZENS, IF NOT MANY MORE THAN THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT EXIST.
I WOULD EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE EXPLICITLY SPELLED OUT, INCLUDING LIKE A PROCESS OR ADMIN OR REGULATIONS RELATING TO THAT PROCESS.
SO IT IS VAGUE, IT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO A NUMBER OF INTERPRETATIONS.
UM, THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT HOW IT HAS BEEN INTERPRETED IN PRACTICE IN THE PAST.
AND I DO THINK THAT IF IT WERE TO BE INTERPRETED THAT WAY, I WOULD EXPECT A CLEAR LEGISLATIVE RECORD AS TO WHAT WOULD EXPECT IT'S SO THERE'S NO OBLIGATION FOR ACTIONS I CIVIL COUNSEL YEAH.
IT'S, THERE'S NOT, IT, IT'S, YEAH, THE THEORY, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC MOMENT IN TIME WHERE THERE'S LIKE A STAMP PUT ON PAPER THAT THIS THING IS VERIFIED.
I THINK IT IN PRACTICE WOULD EXIST MORE IN THE TOPIC THAT THE REPORT IS PROVIDED TO THEM.
AND THEN IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VERACITY OF ANY OF THOSE CONCLUSIONS, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE AVENUES FOR RECOURSE TO CONFRONT
UH, THE NEXT I HAVE IS, IS THERE ANY OBLIGATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS OR RESPOND TO COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS EITHER AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS OR THE AFTER ANSWER? NO.
FOR MANY OF THE SAME SIMILAR REASONS, THE OBLIGATION ISN'T REALLY IMPOSED ON THEM SO MUCH AS THE REPORT GOING TO THEM.
AND THEN IT'S ADVISORY FOR THEM AND THE O THAT THEY CONSIDER THE EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE THAT THE COMMITTEE
IS THE CITY COUNCIL PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING OR RESPONDING TO THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS? NO.
SO LONG AS IT'S DONE TO SUSTAIN FOR GROUND.
SO, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS KIND OF AN OVERARCHING
UM, SHOULD INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS USE THE PROCESS SPREAD BELOW FROM ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND THEN THERE WAS A BULLET LIST OF ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
I DIDN'T TRANSCRIBE INTO MY NOTES HERE.
I COULDN'T FIND THAT EXACT, UH, PART BEING EITHER ROBERT'S RULE OR REALLY NOT CALLED THIS, BUT DUMMIES GUY ROBERT'S RULES.
I HAVE BOTH I REFERENCE REGULARLY.
UM, MY ADVICE WOULD BE THAT THE COMMITTEE, UH, THE, THE PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE MOTION
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THAT CREATED THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ADDITIONS OR EXCLUSIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DONE IN THE SAME MANNER AS MOTION WAS MADE OR AS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY THE MOTION.SO IF A MEMBER OF COMMITTEE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN SUBCOMMITTEE DELIBERATIONS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT A MOTION IS MADE TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE TO ADD THAT PERSON, UM, TO THE COMMITTEE.
THAT'S, 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW THOSE COMMITTEES WERE FORMED.
UH, DURING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY MAKE SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE SAME STAFF THAT COULD IMPACT THE
UM, THAT WAS MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION.
UH, AND, BUT I WANTED TO RESPOND BECAUSE IT IMPLICATES THAT LIMITATION ON THE POWER OF THE COMMITTEE AS IT'S PHRASED HERE.
AND I, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR, LIKE YOU MAY MAKE, SO I WROTE, I'LL JUST READ MY NOTES HERE.
THIS IS NOT A CODIFIED RESPONSIBILITY MEETING AND MAYBE CONSIDERED CONTRARY TO THE SPIRIT OF THE RESOLUTION, WHICH PROVIDE EXPRESSLY THAT NOTHING CONTAINED IN ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE RESOLUTION SHALL BE CONSTRUED ELLIPSES AS ING IN OR CONFERRING UPON THE COMMUNITY, OR ANY MEMBERS THEREOF.
ANY SUPERVISORY POWER OR AUTHORITY OVER THE ACTIONS, STUDENTS' RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY OR ITS OFFICE ENGAGES THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO IT WOULD SIMILARLY BE, SO AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? BUT JUST TRYING TO LABEL LAND, IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF A MUNICIPAL CARTER CHARTER IF SOME COUNCIL ENGAGED IN THE DIRECTION TO CITY EMPLOYEE.
UH, SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND, I'M SURE THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY, FORMALLY OR OTHERWISE.
UM, AND THE STAFF PRESIDENT ARE OF COURSE, GEARED TO LISTEN AND, AND BE INFORMED.
UM, AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO THE BROAD HYPOTHETICAL, UH, TAKE ACTION BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, PRESUMING THAT IT'S WITHIN THEIR DISCRETION AND TO DO SO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, THEY MAY THEN BE ABLE TO DO THAT QUESTION MM-HMM
BUT WHAT THE SUGGESTION WAS ONLY FROM ONE IN THE CONFLICT.
HAS TO VOTE ON A SUGGESTION TO MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE SUGGESTION BEFORE IT'S ACT ON.
OR CAN ONE PERSON ADVOCATE FOR SOMETHING SAID, I, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF.
SO THE JURISDICTION OF THE BOARD IS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR REGARDING POLICIES.
SO THE PATH OF MOTION TO THEN SAY THAT THE COMMITTEE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO ONE OR MORE STAFF PEOPLE OH, IS BEYOND WHAT IS OPERATED BY RENT.
MAYBE IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE FELT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST, THEN WE HAD THE ABILITY, UH, AND AUTHORITY TO ACT ON, WE COULD CHOOSE.
AND SO, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION.
I APPRECIATE CLARIFICATION, BUT IT WAS MORE LIKE, I'M SURE THERE'S A VIBRANT DISCUSSION GOING ON, DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES AND THINGS THAT MAY HAPPEN, AND A STAFF ARE PRESENT AND THEY HEAR SOMETHING AND THEY GO, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF THAT.
AND THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD ACTION.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD TAKE BACK AND INCORPORATE A PSEU THAT WITH THE ONE PATIENT
IT'S NOTHING BUT RUN TURN AROUND CORNER, OF COURSE.
UH, BUT, BUT THERE, THERE'S NO, NO RULE AGAINST THEM ACTING ON A RECOMMENDATION AS I KIND OF EXPLAINED IT.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND SO IT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
UM, IF A COMMITTEE MEMBER MEETS WITH EITHER THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN THEY ADVOCATE FOR THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS? OR DO THEY HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE? SO THIS IS A PRETTY COMMON QUESTION.
AMONG THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES, A COMMITTEE MEMBER CAN, OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THEIR LOCAL POLITICIANS AS CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF WHO, TO THE EXTENT THAT OF MEMBER COMMUNITY COMMITTEE WANTS TO INTERACT, UM, TO LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WIELDING YOUR STATUS AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.
THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE PURSUANT TO A MOTION OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO IT MAY SEEM LIKE A NUANCED DISTINCTION, AND MAYBE IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES IT IS.
BUT THAT'S PART OF OUR LIKE ETHICAL AND BROWN ACT RULE, BOTH THAT LIKE, YES, PLEASE ENGAGE YOUR LOCALS AS RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE A MEMBER, PARTICIPATORY MEMBER OF THIS FOUR COMMITTEE.
UM, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES AND BROWN ACT PROCESS IS JUST A RELEASE TO THAT.
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IS THAT IT? UH, HAVE A COUPLE MORE.OH, YOU, BUT I CAN ALWAYS CIRCLE BACK OR SPOKEN IT TO BEFORE.
I THINK WE HIT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT, UM, SARAH HAD THE QUESTION.
SO AS FAR AS ACTING AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMITTEE AND PRESENTATIONS JUST TO CITY COUNCIL, IT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT, CITY COUNCIL AND I SAY, HEY, I'M A RESIDENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE
I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE, BUT I'M SPEAKING NOT AS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE, BUT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, IS THAT ALLOWABLE IN PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION.
THUS COURT, IT IS DEFINITELY A FINE LINE AS YOU PHRASED IT THERE.
AND MY ADVICE WOULD BE, NOT THAT IT'S ILLEGAL TO DO THAT, BUT THAT IT'S SKIRTING CLOSE TO BROWN ACTS AND ETHICAL RULES, AND THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO NOT DESCRIBE YOURSELVES AS A MEMBER OF ANY OF THOSE COMMITTEES WHILE
AND I THINK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC'S EXPECTATION, LIKE THESE SCARIES ARE PUBLIC AND YOU TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS, ADVICE, AT LEAST MANY MEETINGS.
UM, SO I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY PARTICULAR AS TO THE DETAILS.
I ALWAYS NEVER WANNA DISCOURAGE ANYONE FROM ENGAGING IN LOCAL POLITICS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
AND CERTAINLY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO I WANNA, I WANT THE MINIMUM INTERFERENCE WITH THOSE, UH, RIGHTS OF PRIVILEGES.
BUT BY BEING ON COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE ENGAGED IN PUBLIC SERVICE, AND THEN THERE IS, UM, SOME, UH, INVOLVED YES.
WE, JIM, WELL, I WAS WONDERING, CAN WE GET OUT THE SUMMATION OF YOUR COMMENT, BECAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE VALUABLE COMING ON IT, INCLUDING SOME OLD PEOPLE, ALL THESE QUESTIONS, EVERYBODY ANSWERED, SO CERTAINLY I THINK IT WOULD CLARIFY WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE.
I'M GONNA CLEAN 'EM UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE, WE'LL GET THAT ONE.
MY FINAL QUESTION IS, WE ARE ASKED TO DO ONE OF OUR TRAININGS AS A MANAGERIAL STATUS TRAINING.
AND THERE'S VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE DESCRIBING AS THIS NON SUPERVISION, UH, MANAGERIAL.
THERE IS A NON MANAGERIAL TRAINING BILL, IN ADDITION TO THE MANAGERIAL, WE TAKING THE MANAGERIAL, SHOULD WE BE TAKING NON MANAGERIAL, BUT WE, MANAGERIAL TRAINING IS USUALLY ABOUT DIRECT REPORTS AND HOW WE MANAGE TO OUR REPORTS, UH, AS A LEADER.
SO DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT ON MANAGERIAL VERSUS YEAH, I DO.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES THE DECISION TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT MY THOUGHT WOULD BE FROM MY LITIGATION EXPERIENCE IN HARASSMENT DISCRIMINATION LAWSUITS, THAT BY VIRTUE OF YOUR POSITION, YOU MIGHT BE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME TO WITH A COMPLAINT.
AND THAT THE MANAGERIAL TRAINING IS DESIGNED TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO IF SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU VERSUS THE EMPLOYEE.
TRAINING IS MORE ABOUT WHAT TO DO.
IF YOU ARE YOURSELF THE VICTIM OF A, A CONCERN, THEN THE SUPERVISOR WANTS COVERS THAT TOO.
I DID HAVE SOME BRIEF NOTES ABOUT THAT, THAT, UM, THE TRAINING, THE, THE NECESSITY FROM THE TRAINING IS CODIFIED.
IT IS IN SECTION 2 0 7, 0 3 OH OF THE MUNICIPAL CHARTER.
UM, AND IT JUST TALKS ABOUT ALL APPOINTED OFFICIALS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE TRAINING ON ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT VALUES.
THAT
BUT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WHAT, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NICK? THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
YOU SAID YOU REVIEWED ALL THE MINUTES OF 2016 AND 2019 OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH MENTIONED DOING THAT.
BUT, UM, JIM AND I WERE ON THIS BODY DURING THAT PERIOD, AND WE DID PARTICIPATE IN DEVELOPMENT
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OF A DOCUMENT TO THE REPORTS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT NEVER, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED IT LIKE PRETTY DISTINCTLY THAT SOMEBODY SAID, OH, IT'S GONNA BE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON THIS DATE OF THIS COUNCIL MEETING, AND, AND IT WAS INCLUDED.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I OPENED, I WENT TO THE MEETINGS, THE OLD MEETINGS, WE GO TO THE WEBSITE OR SHOOT NEW MEETING TO OLD MEETINGS, SHOW OLD MEETINGS.
I WENT TO THE R COMMITTEE AND I SELECTED EACH YEAR, AND THEN I OPENED EACH YEAR IN A NEW TAB.
SO IT WAS RIGHT ACROSS THE TOP.
AND THEN I WENT TO THE FIRST ONE, THEN I CONTROL LEFT, AND I TYPED THEM HOME, HOME AND LOOKS FOR EVERY OCCURRENCE WHERE OUR HOME APPEARED.
IN THE BODY OF THE DOCUMENT, THERE WERE A LOT OF HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS.
THERE WERE A LOT OF, UH, FLEES OF GOVERNORS TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY HOMELESS ORDINANCE FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND THE ONLY TWO THAT REFERENCE THIS COMMITTEE FOR THOSE TWO, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT LIKE REPORTS WERE GIVEN BY STAFF AND IT DIDN'T EXPLICITLY REFERENCE THE COMMITTEE AS AN ORIGINATING SOURCE FOR THAT.
'CAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS THAT SAYS REPORTS.
AND I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK MORE CAREFULLY.
COULD I SEND YOU THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS? YES, PLEASE.
I'LL SEND THEM TO YOU, THEN YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING OUR ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2024.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S GONNA GO WHEN
THAT'S FOR FUTURE ATTENDANCE DISCUSSION.
AND ANY PUBLIC, ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
SEEING NONE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION UNDER, OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE, THE CITY ATTORNEY REPORT, ALONG WITH THE DISCUSSION OF, UH, FUTURE
UM, NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE UPDATES FROM THE MAYOR'S FUND AND TO ALL OF THESE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE OF CARE ADVISORY COMMITTEES.
UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? CAN YOU BRING THE MAYOR UPDATE? YES.
SO THE MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING AT THIS LAST, UH, MONTH, UH, BUT WE DID WANNA PROVIDE THE FUND BALANCE AND THEN TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS.
AS OF NOW, WE DO HAVE FOUR, UH, CURRENT APPLICANTS OR GRANTEES.
UH, THEY ARE STILL SPENDING DOWN.
UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO REMIND THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE TO SPEND, THEY HAVE THE YEAR TO SPEND DOWN THE FUNDS, BUT THE TOTAL, UM, ENDING BALANCE AS OF APRIL IS 167,000 IN THE MAYOR'S FUND.
AND I, I THINK JULIE MIGHT SPEAK TO THIS, BUT WE DID LOSE, UH, THE CHAIR FOR THE MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO AT THIS MOMENT, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET.
SO WE WILL NEED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO JOIN THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
WHAT? THE CHAIR OR THE MAYOR SUBCOMMITTEE IF OUR CHAIR LEFT.
SO, UM, DO ANY OF YOU WANT TO BE THE CHAIR? IF WE CAN'T MEET, IF WE DON'T HAVE A CHAIR.
WHAT I, THE CHAIR? IS THAT? NOT REALLY.
THAT'S THE KIND OF PUBLIC SERVICE CHAIR.
DO I NEED, DO I MOTION CHAIR? I THERE'S A MOTION.
WE HAVE MOVE THE CHAIR SECOND.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC? NO.
KIMBERLY DID A GOOD JOB ON GETTING SOME THINGS
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ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT SAYING NONE.MOTION FOR NOT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE MERIT, THE MERIT FUND SUBCOMMITTEE AND CHAIR.
ALSO, UM, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU A VOTE.
UM, SARAH, POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.
YEAH, THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE DID MEET DURING THE MONTH OF MAY.
WE HAVE ONLY TWO AGENDA ITEMS, UM, TO WORK ON OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE A DRAFT IN THE, I HAVE TWO TO UP THERE.
AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT.
BUT OUR INTENTION TODAY IS JUST TO DISCUSS THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND NOT VOTE UP.
SO YOU SEE OUR DRAFT POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH WHICH THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED AND MOVE FORWARD TO BRING TO YOU.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, AND WE SAID THAT IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS YEAR'S DRAFT STATE LEGISLATION THAT IMPACTS HOMELESSNESS AND HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD DRIVING ATION TO THE CITY AS FAR AS DRAFT STATE LEGISLATION THAT IMPACTS.
SO WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT IN OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS ON MONDAY.
YEAH, THE, SO WE'LL MEET HIM AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE DID MEET
UM, SO THE DOC BOARD, UH, WE DID HAVE OUR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING WAS FIRST IN PERSON GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING OF COVID AT AS
SO WE'VE TRIED IT ONCE AND NOBODY SHOWED UP, BUT WE HAD A GOOD AMOUNT OF PUPILS, UH, THIS TIME.
UM, AND WE DID IT IN JOINT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BEACH HOMELESS COALITION.
SO WE'LL BE HAVING TWO JOINT MEETINGS PER YEAR ALONG WITH THE HOMELESS COALITION.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THE COUNTY REGARDING MEASURE A AND THE LOCAL SOLUTIONS FUND AND THE PROCESS FOR THAT.
UH, WE SPOKE A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT A FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, WITH POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, POLICY CHANGES, HOW THAT POTENTIALLY IMPACTS US WITHIN THE CARE, UH, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY ALL AROUND AS WE PROVIDE HOMELESS SERVICES, AS WELL AS HOUSING SUPPORT.
UM, SO THERE'S STILL A LOT THAT'S UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT WITHOUT HAVING A FEDERAL BUDGET CLASS.
UH, BUT WE DID GO OVER THE POTENTIAL OF SOME OF THE CREDENTIALS OF SOME
UM, AND THEN WITHIN THE COC MEETING, WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING JUST TO FILL, UH, SEVERAL NBC.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO USE, UH, THE COC BOARD TO SELECT THE MEETING MEMBERS, UH, TO BE ABLE WORK OF THE COC.
SO, UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, IT WAS A BRIEF COC BOARD MEETING AGAINST.
SO, UM, COMING UP WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE COC, UM, THE COC, AM I DRAWING A BLANK? THE RETREAT COMMUNITY BUILD NOFO, UH, WHICH WE HAD BID ON, UNFORTUNATELY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CANCELED THAT.
SO, UH, THEY HAVE RE-RELEASED IT WITH A BUNCH OF NEW CLAUSES AND TERMS WITHIN IT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT.
THAT WAS PREVIOUS ACTION THAT BEING TAKEN THAT THEY COULD REAPPLY, BUT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THEY CANCELED THAT PROCUREMENT.
AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING FURTHER.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SARAH OR
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION YOU RECEIVE AND FILE UPDATE FROM THE MAYOR SIDE, UH, COMMITTEE AND THE C OF CARE, UM, REPRESENTATIVE.
SO WE DO ALSO MEET AS CO, THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UM, ACK.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO VOLUNTEER? DO THAT.
UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR PAT
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TO BECOME OUR COC ON CONSERVATIVE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVE? SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT SAYING, NONENEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DISCUSSION ON ESTABLISHING AND CLARIFYING THE PROCESS FOR REFERRING MATTERS OF THE POLICY FUND COMMITTEE, INCLUDING HOW, AND THEN BOTH COMMITTEE DECIDED TO DELEGATE ITEMS FOR SUBCOMMITTEE CONSIDERATION FOR THE SCOPE.
WELL, I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY, OKAY.
SO YOU WANTED TO SECOND, OKAY.
I ACTUALLY, UH, I CHECKED OUT THAT YOU LIKE, UH, PROMPT FOR IES.
I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY SKIED THROUGH IT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I FOUND THIS INTERESTING IS THAT THEIR SUGGESTION ON MOST OBJECTIVE WAY TO PRESENT A MOTION WAS TO ACTUALLY WRITE IT DOWN, PASS IT AROUND SO EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ON WHAT YOU WANNA MOVE AND THEN, UM, AND THEN PRESENT IT TO WHATEVER BODY THAT RIGHT.
COULD YOU COULD HAVE CONFIDE IT, LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO BRING IT UP IN A MEETING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? WELL, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, IT HAS TO BE THE AGENDA.
MOTION WOULD EFFORT RELATES TO AN AGENDA ITEM? YEAH.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HAVE, WE CAN'T GO OFF.
SO ON A TANGENT DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN PROPOSE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME TO AN ITEM THAT'S IDENTIFIED.
ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ANY OF THESE ROBERT'S RULES BOOKS IS THAT THEY APPLY TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF IDENT.
SO THERE, THERE'S CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS THAT USE ROBERT'S RULES.
UM, THEY'RE NOT ALL SUBJECT TO AROUND THAT.
AND THEN MAYBE I MISINTERPRETED IT BECAUSE THEY'VE RECOMMENDED THAT YOU WRITE IT DOWN.
AND THEN FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE COMMISSION OR THE COMMITTEE, UH, AND YOU, THAT THAT CAN ALL HAPPEN.
IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE RELATED IT TO WITHIN THE SCOPE OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GENDERIZED.
SO YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET IT PUT ON THE AGENDA.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE A PUBLIC ENTITY THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT, WHICH ISN'T TRUE OF ALL ENTITIES THAT EACH RAW CHOICE.
SO THOSE ROBERT'S RULES ARE STILL ROBERT'S RULES.
WE JUST HAVE TO LAY OVER THAT BROWN ACT REGULATIONS, WHICH IS BASICALLY, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING IN HERE THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
ANY ROBERT'S RULES ARE PROCEDURAL FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT TO TIE IT TO THIS AGENDA ITEM IN THAT PAINTS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF SOME SORT OF POLICY AREA THAT A COMMITTEE MEMBER COULD MAKE A RELATED MOTION SAYING, I WANNA REFER THIS TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE, PASS IT AROUND, CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE, ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT IT JUST HAS TO BE CLOSELY, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY RELATED TO SOMETHING I
SO IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING I'M
SO THAT, SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE CERTAINLY THE OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATIONS BETWEEN BUD GOING TO THE COUNCIL.
SO THEY HAVE A LEVEL OF IMPACT, SOME SORT, UM, WHEREAS SUGGESTIONS THAT MAY, MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THEM, UM, DURING THE C MEETING.
UM, SO YOU HAVE MEETINGS AND PRESENTATIONS.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE COMMITTEE ONCE CONSIDERED FOR RECOMMENDATION, IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP, I GUESS AS A MOTION OR CONSIDERATION TO GO TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE, POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
OR IT COULD BE A MOTION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN OR TO GO TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.
YEAH, IT COULD BE A DIRECTION TO THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.
IT COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND YOU'RE GONNA WANT SOME KIND OF REPORT BACK FROM THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE MOTIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
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COMMENT? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.ALL FAVOR RECOMMENDATION EITHER FILE AND DISCUSSION ON ESTABLISHING, CLARIFYING AND PROCESS FOR REFERRING MATTERS TO THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.
INCLUDING HOW WHEN THE FULL COMMITTEE DECIDES TO DELEGATE ITEMS FOR SUBCOMMITTEE CONSIDERATION, I PROPOSED ABSTAINED MOTION.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE IT.
ACTUALLY, IT WASN'T APPROVED, IT WAS JUST THAT WE DO BEST.
OR NICK, DO YOU SEE THAT? RIGHT? YEAH.
SO MOVE TO THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION, IF I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE BOARD, WE GONNA GREAT CONVERSATION AND THEN SOMEBODY MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE TO FROM, UH, APPROVE TO, UH, DISCUSS OR YEAH.
OR DESCRIBE THAT WORD TO REVIEW.
DO I GIVE THE MOTION FIRST AND THEN DO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS? YES.
CAN I HAVE, UM, A MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE 20 24 25 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE? POLICY RECOMMENDATION? WHO'S SECOND? OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ANNUAL AND IN ADDITION, UH, TO CHANGE 20 OR 20, 24.
SO MY FINAL AMENDMENT IS TO, UM, STRIKE THE WORDS AND APPROVE AND CHANGE THE DATE TO ONLY 22.
SO RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW THE 2024 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION TO START FROM PAGE TWO TO ON, UM, THEN YOU HAVE
WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF I GAVE AN OVERVIEW? YEAH.
SO, UM, FOR SOME BACKGROUND, WE DECIDED TO ONLY, UH, PRESENT TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THIS YEAR THAT ARE BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE ADOPTED LAST YEAR WITH ONE NEW ADDITION.
UM, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED TO HEAVILY EMPHASIZE THESE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, UM, WE WILL BE INCLUDING DATA FROM THE POINT IN TIME COUNT THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN JANUARY.
UM, SO OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, AND YOU CAN READ 'EM WORD FOR WORD, UM, IS NUMBER ONE, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A QUANTIFIABLE GOAL OF INCREASING SHELTER RATES FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO THE CURRENT SHELTER RATE OF 27% LEADS TO ADVERSE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR THE MAJORITY BLACK SHELTER ACCESS IN 2024.
THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS ON THE WAIT LIST FOR SHELTER IN LONG BEACH WAS ABOUT 1100 INDIVIDUALS.
AND THEY EACH OFTEN WAITED FOUR TO SIX MONTHS TO BE FIVE SHELTER BENCHMARKS FOR INCREASING SHELTER RATES SHOULD BE SET FOR, SHOULD BE SET FOR 2026 AND 2030, INCLUDING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PERMANENT SHELTER BEDS THE CITY WILL SEEK TO MAKE AVAILABLE FOR OWN FACILITIES OF THOSE OF INS PARK AS RECOMMENDED LAST YEAR, HAY SACS SUGGESTS THE CITY SET A GOAL OF SHELTERING 40% OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH BY 22 6 AND 60% PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BY 2030.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME, UM, INFORMATION BELOW ABOUT HOW IS KIND OF IN LINE WITH THE RATE OF INCREASING SHELTER THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN THE LAST STRATEGIC PLAN EVERYONE HOME IN 2028.
UM, AND WE ALSO SAID THAT THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE INCREASED THEIR SHELTER RATES.
AND, AND THOSE ARE EXAMPLES ARE SAN FRANCISCO AND SAN DIEGO.
THEY'VE ADOPTED VARIOUS STRATEGIES FOR DOING THAT.
SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS KIND OF REPEATING OUR RECOMMENDATION LAST YEAR THAT FAMILY
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RESOURCES SHOULD, OR INCREASED RESOURCES SHOULD GO TO INCREASE THE SHELTER RATE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY UN UM, AND SO THAT, THAT'S FROM LAST YEAR.AND THEN THE NEW RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DISCUSSED FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS, UM, IS THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK INTO A NEW APPROACH TO, UM, CLEAN SWEEPS AND OFFERING HYGIENE SOLUTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED.
UM, SO WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY ALLOCATE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO A PROACTIVE HYGIENE AND SANITATION PROGRAM TO INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND TO IMPROVE THE CLEANLINESS OF ENCAMPMENT.
THIS WILL LIKELY INCREASE THE NEED FOR REPETITIVE WEEKLY, UH, CLEAN SWEEPS.
UM, SO WE, WE REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE HUMANITY OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THE NEED FOR BASIC HYGIENE AND SANITATION.
UM, WE NOTED THAT DESPITE THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S CLEAN SWEEP EFFORTS, WHICH REMOVE DEBRIS FROM SIDEWALKS AND REGULAR BASIS, UM, UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUAL LACK REGULAR ACCESS TO VITAL HYGIENE RESOURCES SUCH AS TRASH BINS, TOILETS, SINKS, AND SHOWERS.
WE RECOMMEND PILOTING A PROGRAM TO OFFER PROACTIVE HYGIENE AND SANITATION SERVICES IN AREAS WHERE MANY PEOPLE EXPERIENCE THE HOMELESSNESS CONGREGATE, WHICH WILL INCREASE BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANLINESS AND REDUCE SUFFERING FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO OUR KIND OF DATA POINTS RELATED TO THIS ARE THAT IN 20 24, 2 CITY DEPARTMENTS CONDUCTED 4,200 HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT CLEAN SWEEPS.
UM, MOST OF THESE CLEAN SWEEPS INVOLVE RETURNING TO THE SAME ENCAMPMENTS OR SITES WEEK AFTER WEEK.
UM, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE COST OF THIS TO ONE OF THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS ALONE WAS ABOUT $1 MILLION.
UM, AND SO WE GAVE THEM AN EXAMPLE OF A PILOT HYGIENE PROGRAM BUDGET IN WHICH, UM, THERE WOULD BE THE PROVISION OF CITY TRASH BINS WITH REGULAR WASTE COLLECTION AT 10 STRATEGIC LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE OFTEN, UM, OUTSIDE LIVING ON SIDEWALKS.
UM, WE RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE THE PROVISION OF AN A DA COMPLIANT PORTABLE TOILET AT THREE STRATEGIC LOCATIONS WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF UNSHELTERED, UH, INDIVIDUALS.
WE ESTIMATED THE COST OF THAT ABOUT $18,000 PER YEAR.
AND THEN WE RECOMMENDED PROVIDING WEEKLY MOBILE SHOWER SERVICES AT ONE STRATEGIC LOCATION, PEOPLE WHO WERE UNSHELTERED.
UM, SO THAT TOTAL BUDGET COSTS YOU AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO IN SUMMARY, UM, WE MADE THESE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND THE POLICIES INCLUDE SETTING A GOAL OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SHELTER BED AVAILABLE AND THUS SHOWING 40% RESIDENTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS UNSHELTERED BY 2026 AND 60% BY 2030.
AND THEN, UM, PROBABLY STRIKE POINT B THERE, THAT'S A TYPO.
AND THEN STEVE HIGHLIGHTING A HYGIENE AND SANITATION PROGRAM AT STRATEGIC LOCATIONS WITH BASIC HUMAN NEEDS OF UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS.
SO THAT'S AN OVERVIEW AND WE'D LIKE TO GET THE COMMITTEE'S INPUT TO THESE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY THAT TAKE THEM BACK TO POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE AND PRESENT A FINAL VERSION OF DISCUSSION THAN BOTH.
UH, QUESTIONS JIM? I WAS GOING TO VERY, VERY DEPARTMENT.
I LIKE TO SEE THE EMPHASIS ON INTERIM HOUSING THAT WE DO MEAN THAT PEOPLE IN THE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINK VERY UN WIELD BY WHY YOU ALWAYS RANK THE GUARD, FILL THE HOUSING, THOSE QUESTION HOUSING.
NONE OF US STAY IN THE SAME HOUSE FOREVER ANYWAY.
SO I THINK IT'S OKAY TO GET PEOPLE TO PICK UP THE MIDDLE STARTED IN THE HOUSING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? JEFF, PAT? UM, DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC PLACES THAT YOU'RE TARGETING? I MEAN, MOST OF THE, MOST THE ENCAMPMENTS HAVE BEEN SWEPT OUT AS WE KNOW, KNOW, UH, WHERE DID YOU, WHERE DID YOU, WHERE ARE YOU REFERRING TO? 10 WE 10 STRATEGIC LOCATIONS.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE CITY STAFF WITH HEALTH BETTER DATA ON THAT THAN WE DO.
AND SO WE WOULD PUT IT TO THE DISCRETION OR WE'VE RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL PUT IT TO THE DISCRETION OF STAFF AND SPECIFICALLY SINCE THERE ARE CLEAN SWEETSS ON PUT EVERY WEEK, THEY COULD PINPOINT THOSE KIND OF AREAS THAT THEY REPETITIOUSLY, UH, RETURN TO.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, UH, IS THAT THE SAME FOR THE PORTABLE TOILETS? YOU'RE RECOMMENDING? THREE THREE OF THOSE? BECAUSE THERE'S ONE AT OUR FARM, AND IT'S NOT FOR ALL OF US, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
UM, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE NEW MODERN ONES, THE CLEAN ITSELF NEED A QR PHONE, YOU NEED A SMARTPHONE, ANYBODY? YES.
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SO ANYWAY, UH, AND THE WEEKLY SHOWERER SERVICE AT ONE STRATEGIC LOCATION, DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC LOCATION IN MIND? AND WHY IS THERE ONLY ONE? BECAUSE OF COST.WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND THEN WE REALIZED THE COST OF SHOWER SERVICES WAS TIGHTER.
SO FOR THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, WE COULD ONLY INCLUDE ONE LOCATION.
ARE WE TALKING MOBILE OR AFFIRM PICTURE MOBILE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ONE COMMENT IN THE INTERIM HOUSING, THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INDIVIDUALS, THAT LIFE TRAINING WHILE IN THOSE THAT WOULD ADD
PEOPLE, I THINK THAT'S ALSO BE AN INTRODUCTION TO THEIR RECOVERY IMPLEMENTATION.
YEAH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS DOCUMENT WE WERE TRYING AND SARAH, THAT TRYING TO BE CONCISE AND TO THE POINT, UM, THOSE THINGS ARE MORE OPERATIONAL, CERTAINLY ARE NEEDED.
THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS NEEDED.
SO HOW WOULD HE MAKE THAT AN OFFICIAL SUGGESTION THAT COULD BE ADOPTED IF HE WANTED? WHAT'S THE WAY TO MAKE THAT THE MOTION? THAT IS, IT WOULD, COULD YOU TELL ME, NICK, WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR MEMBERS OF THE FACT, SINCE WE HAVE A FEW WHO ARE NOT EVEN HERE TO THE SUBMIT COMMENTS ON THIS DOCUMENT TO STAFF OR TO, UH, TO THE COMPANY? WHAT, WHAT WOULD THESE, UH, WE PASS IT ON TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL? I MORE
RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS JUST PRESENT IF YOU ALL WANNA TAKE THIS DOCUMENT AND IT'S INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET, UM, AND SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO JENNIFER.
JENNIFER AND SHE WILL PUT IT TOGETHER FOR JEANNETTE MCC FOLLOW 27TH.
UM, I WILL NOTE THAT OUR NEXT POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING IS MONDAY, BUT IT MIGHT NOT.
SO THE SOONER THE BETTER, BUT WE'LL TAKE ALL COMMENTS AND USE THEM TO INFORM THE NEXT VERSION OF THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND THING.
UM, SO I DO LIKE A LOT OF
SO YOU SHOULD ALWAYS MY SERVICE CENTER AND A, A BIG WAY FOR THEM TO GIVE THERE.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
AND ACTUALLY LIKE
I WOULD, I WOULD, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY, WITH THE CITY BUDGET ISSUES AND THE STATE AND FEDERAL BUDGET ISSUES THAT, UM, I THINK THEY WONDERFUL IDEAS.
I FRANKLY WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GO HIGHER, UM, IN MAKING, MAKING MORE REQUESTS, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE INCREMENTAL NEEDS.
I AMEND THE
UM, THIS SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW THE 2024
NEXT ITEM IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THIS FILE AND THE DISCUSSION ON THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, GRASP
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REPORT AND THE MOTION.BUT, UM, IF WE NEED, WAS THERE A REASON TO
RIGHT? SO COULD WE DO THE SAME THING WHERE THEY CAN REVIEW IT THEN, THEN THE COMMENTS TO JENNIFER? MM-HMM
AND THEN WE'LL, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE WHOLE DOCUMENT TO THE
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT? NATALIE? UM, IT IS A QUESTION THOUGH.
SO ON ALL OF THOSE ATTACHMENTS AND I LOOKED QUICKLY BEFORE I LEFT
SO, AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT.
SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT, HOW DO I FIND THE DRAFT ANNUAL REPORT? IT WAS, IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TODAY THOUGH.
TO, UH, I WILL LOOK AT THAT TODAY.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE IN FILE DISCUSSION ON THE WHOLE CIRCUIT COMMITTEE DRAFT AND REPORT, SAY AYE.
THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
CAN I HAVE ANY ION? ION? SO, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD, UM, CONSIDER GOING TO EVERY OTHER MONTH SCHEDULE FOR HIS BODY AND THEN IN THE INBETWEEN MONTHS WE WOULD HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND OTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, SECOND BLOCK.
SO THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO PUT ON THE TABLE, UM, TO TRY TO MAKE US MORE, UM, EFFECTIVE AND, UM, CONSIDERING SOME
BUT, UM, I LOVE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
THEY ARE IN FAVOR FOR THIS MOTION, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE TO VOTE ON IT.
UM, AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND CERTAINLY WANT ALL OVER YOUR THOUGHT.
UM, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERY MONTH WE, WE WERE MEETING THAT WE WOULD NEED
SO I, I FEEL THAT IF WE HAD A SET AT SCHEDULE WITH
IN APRIL BECAUSE UH, WE HAVE A LOT TO, AND UH, THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS, SUGGESTIONS, MOTIONS, YOU KNOW, ON THIS AGENDA.
AND TODAY'S AGENDA IS, IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL AND ACADEMIC VERY FULL, BUT OTHER MONTHS BEHIND AGENDA THAT HIGHLIGHT IS YES, TODAY'S AGENDA IS FULL.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET LAST MONTH.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN ORDER THE WAY WE WOULD SET UP TO BREAK AND IT REQUIRES THAT WE MEET QUARTERLY AT THE MINIMUM QUARTER.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD MAKE THOSE PROGRESS BACK.
WELL IT WOULD GIVE US AGENDAS THAT ARE, I THINK, UM, MORE ROBUST AND ALLOW MY
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TO GET SOME OF THE ISSUESTHE THING IS, WE'VE HAD SOME ADJUSTMENTS WHERE HONESTLY IT WAS JUST, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL HOUSEKEEPING AND CALLS WERE FOR? SO, SO YOU NEED MORE, MORE TIME TO WORK, TO DO THE WORK.
IF WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL BE TRICKLED ON AND PEOPLE WILL BE HAVING TROUBLE PARTICIPATING BECAUSE THE WORK'S GONNA, SO, UM, SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EFFECT MEDICINE.
THE FEELING IS THIS WILL BETTER ATTENDANCE
UM, IT IS JUST HARD FOR PEOPLE.
AND SO LIKE TODAY I WAS LATE WAITING FOR, SO BY GOING TO FEWER, MAYBE IT'LL CREATIVE WHAT
BUT THOSE FOLKS TO GET THEM SIX, IT'S HARD FOR FOLKS TO GET TO 12.
AND WE NEED, WE ACTUALLY NEED MORE ATION COMMITTEE, THE
SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION FROM THE MEMBERS.
AND I THINK WELL PLUS, WELL, WE'D LIKE
THAT'S A, I NOW WE'RE ASKING 6.6.
SO THERE WAS, UH, SO THIS MEETING WE DECIDED TO MEET FOURTH, THIRD, THE BETTER ATTEND COMMITTEE ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN TOP, BUT MAYBE IT'S BEEN EASIER TO FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
IS THAT, WAS THAT ANY GAR SUBCOMMITTEE COMMITTEE HASN'T REALLY HAD THEIR ATTENDANCE? IS THERE A KIND ISSUE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE? THEY BE BETTER IF A CERTAIN KIND OR THAT DOESN'T SUBCOMMITTEE SCRATCH THE CHAIR.
WELL, WE COULD TRY IT AND IF IT DOESN'T YEAH, IF IT, WE CAN TRY IT IF IT DOESN'T WORK.
NOTHING IS PER, I MEAN THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF
SO WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE TO THERE'S ONE SUBMISSION THAT MEET ONE.
I MEAN IT'S JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO GO OR IT'S REALLY ABOUT VOTING ON SOME UPDATES, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF 'EM THAT MEET QUARTERLY OR BIMONTHLY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD, I THINK MAYBE TO TRY IT EVEN LIKE PILOT, LIKE YOU SAID WE BACK, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD HELP US, UM, NARROW OUR DISCUSSIONS MORE AND HAVE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT TO YEAH.
MORE AND LIKE DISCUSS LIKE ONE OR TWO THINGS, REALLY DO OUR HOMEWORK AND YEAH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, WHAT, SO I, I NEED SOME DIRECTION.
THE, THE MOTION IS TO JUST REVIEW IN TO DISCUSS THE MEETING SCHEDULE.
UM, SO COULD, COULD I DO DO A AMENDMENT VERSION TO A DECISION? YES.
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TO UM, REVISE OUR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR EVERY OTHER MONTH BEGINNING AUGUST, RIGHT? DURING JUNE.UM, AND THEN THE SUBC COMMITTEE WOULD BE THE OTHER, THE OTHER THAT MOTION SECOND.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION TO THE, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
BUT MY ONLY CONCERN IS YOU DO THAT FOR THIS, THESE NEXT FEW MONTHS, YOUR POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE MEETING IN IN JUNE.
WE WILL BE MISSING ITS OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON ANY PROPOSED LEGISLATION, STATE LEGISLATION BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET GETS VOTED ON, WHEN EVERYTHING GET HAPPENS, THE TIMELINE FOR THAT, WHICH I THINK IS THE END OF AUGUST WHEN THE GOVERNOR HAS TO SIGN OFF ALL LEGISLATION.
SO YOUR INPUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT I THINK MEL, UM, MUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT TIMELINE PROCESS IF YOU WANT TO AFFECT THAT TIMELINE IN WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
SO MAYBE CONSIDER DOING THIS STARTING IN THE FALL.
WELL ACTUALLY TRADITIONALLY HOLD ON, UH, NATALIE AND ANY, IS THAT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S MY TWO MINUTES.
YOU STILL HAVE MORE
SO THINKING ABOUT THIS, SO WE HAVE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THERE ANY MORE, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE CAN DISCUSS ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
SAYING NONE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE, WE HOPE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE QUESTION IS IF THERE BE SOMETHING, I THINK THAT THERE'D BE SOMETHING COMING UP WITH OUTSIDE THE GOVERNMENT STATE, WHATEVER THAT WOULD HAVE IMPACT AND CAUSE US TO CREATE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF THAT IS, I'M NOT SURE, UM, IF THINGS ARE GONNA MOVE THAT FAST AND STATE.
SO
SO YES, YOUR WINDOW IS ALREADY HAS HEARD, RIGHT? BOTH AND REALITY, LIKE THE STATE BUDGET PROCESS IS WELL WAY.
UM, AND A LOT OF THE DELIBERATION
AND OPEN SAID UH, I JUST ALSO WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE AUTHORITY AND FOCUS ON THE BOARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL STAND ON SOMETHING.
UM, THE CITY DOES HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT DOES FOCUS ON POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AT A CITY AND FEDERAL LEVEL.
UM, THEY WERE JUST SCRAPING UP THEIR PROCESS FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS THAT ARE BEING ADOPTED.
UH, THE MAYOR
SO THERE IS ADVOCACY HAPPENING AROUND HOMELESSNESS BOTH AT A STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL FROM THE CITY.
UM, YEAH, SO I THINK THE REALITY IS LIKE THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY REALLY IS GOING TO BE ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE.
I DON'T KNOW ALL, ALTHOUGH ONE, ONE ACTION WE COULD RECOMMEND AS A COMMITTEE IS THAT THE CITY WRITE A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR IN FAVOR OF HIM FEE TOWING FOR APPROVING LEGISLATION BECAUSE WE WILL GAIN, UM,
SO THAT IS SOMETHING OSTENSIBLY A RECOMMENDATION THAT COULD COME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WITHIN THE PROPOSED TIMELINE.
'CAUSE THE GOVERNOR SIGNS THINGS IN SEPTEMBER AND LIKE
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RIGHT?UM, I HAVE, I HAVE, UM, UH, I HAVE, I HAVE BEEN QUESTIONING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE H SAP COMMITTEE.
UM, I HAVE NOTICED THAT NOT MANY OF OUR SUGGESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY A DOCTOR AND, UM, I REVIEWED THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND UM, A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THERE, WHICH IS GOOD, WHICH IS A GOOD NEWS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT COME UP ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPEN AND WE'RE NOTIFIED LATE ON THAT.
WAIT, WAIT, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE MOTION, RIGHT? YES.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION.
AND IF I'M QUESTIONING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE HSAC MEETING, IS IT A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO LESSEN THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING OR SHOULD WE JUST 'CAUSE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT HAPPENS IN TWO MONTHS AND WE NEED TO, FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO BE WELL INFORMED OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO WE NEED THIS TIME TO DISCUSS WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
WE NEED THE STATUS UPDATE YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS AS THEY COME UP AND NOT LET THEM GO STALE BECAUSE THINGS MOVE SLOWLY ENOUGH.
AND THEN IF WE, IF WE GO TO EVERY OTHER, EVERY OTHER MONTH, WE NOT JUST SLOW EVERYTHING DOWN EVEN MORE.
IT'S LIKE I, WE'VE HAD AGENDAS WHERE THERE IS NO ACTION BEING TAKEN, THERE'S NO DOCUMENTS BEING REVIEWED.
UM, PAUL, HE GIVES HIS PRESENTATION AND THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE MEETING.
SO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE EFFECTIVENESS.
I'M ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING THE EFFECTIVENESS AND BEING MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME, EVERYBODY'S TIME AND THE STAFF TIME.
WELL, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS JUST KIND OF DIE OUT AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF YOU WAIT TWO MONTHS VERY FOR TO DIE FASTER.
WELL, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE MORE ACTIVE DURING THOSE MONTHS.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE SUB COMMITTEE.
OKAY, SO HERE'S THE, YOU'RE SAYING THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES WILL BE VERY ACTIVE ON THE ABOVE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE, RIGHT.
SO THEY CAN DO MORE INTO THE, SO MOST OF THE ACTION HAPPENS WITHIN THE SUBCOMMITTEES, RIGHT? AND BASICALLY THIS IS TO VOTE ON WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES COME, WHAT COMES OUT OF THE COMMITTEE EXCEPT FOR ASSUMING THAT, RIGHT.
EXCEPT FOR OUR GUEST PRESENTATION WE HAD FROM AGAINST PRESENTATION.
ARE YOU DONE THAT? UH, SO OUR, OUR PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OR C PERFORMANCE IN BE INFORMED AND TO MAKE ANNUAL RECOMMENDATIONS, THE SUBCOMMITTEES SUPPORT THOSE ANNUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THESE ARE, THIS IS A DRAFT OF THOSE ANNUAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT SHEET.
SO IT'S TO RECEIVE INFORMATION AND THEN GENERATE, GENERATE THE REPORTS, AND THEN AS WE RECEIVE INFORMATION, IT'S TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I WILL, I THINK TO UNDERSTAND THAT DIAL, THIS IS AN ADVISORY BODY THAT IS OUR ONLY, THIS IS OUR ONLY VEHICLE TO ADVISE.
SO WHAT WE SAY IN COMMITTEE ISN'T REAL OFFICIAL.
IT, IT IS TO UNDERSTAND AND, AND IT'S TO HAVE DIALOGUE OPPORTUNITY DEVELOPMENTS THAT
SO CAME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY FELT WAS AN IMMEDIATE CAUSE OF IS OR MECHANISM OF CALLING, GENERAL CALLING SPECIAL MEETING.
SO THAT WE COULD CALL BACK ON.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
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BECAUSE SO, RIGHT.ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO THERE'S THAT MOTION ON THE DOOR TO RECOMMEND THAT THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE GO TO AN EVERY OTHER MONTH, SCHEDULE A MEETING AND CONTINUES TO EVERY OTHER MONTH.
AND SORRY, JUST A REMINDER, IT'S SIX O'CLOCK NOW, SO, UH, I KNOW THAT WE WERE WANTING TO CLOSE AT SIX, BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP, WENDY, I JUST THINK I STOPPING WE NEED, YOU KNOW YEAH.
WE HAVE 10 ITEMS OR THREE ITEMS LEFT.
LIKE YOU PROVIDE A THOROUGH, LIKE WE WOULD BE, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR A WHILE LONGER, SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE POTENTIALLY GOT EVERYONE.
ACCORDING TO EVERY, I'M THINKING IF WE'RE GOING TO EVERY TWO, WE NEED TO ALLOW TIME.
I THINK IT LONG AS WE HAVE A FARM.
AND I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO RUN LATE SOMETIMES.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A POINT IN TIME COUNT PRESENTATION.
I IN THE MOTION VOTE SECOND, RIGHT.
UH, ALRIGHT, SO WHEN WE POINT IT UP, CAN YOU SEND IT TO ME PLEASE? SURE.
NO, I, OUR CLERK HAD JURY DUTY VERY UNEXPECTEDLY, SO I APOLOGIZE.
UNFORTUNATELY WITH HER, YOU KNOW,
SO, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T LEAVE THE DOOR DATA ANALYST, UM, FOR THE HOME SERVICES BUREAU, UM MM-HMM
CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHO, WHO ACTUALLY PUBLISHED THIS? WAS THAT YOU GUYS A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT? SO THE HOMELESS REPORT IS LARGELY COMPILED TOGETHER FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
SO WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT DOES THE GRAPHIC AND THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT OF IT.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT PROVIDE NUMBERS AND YOU CORRECT? YES.
YEAH, SO THE, I CAN SPEAK TO THE NUMBERS.
UM, SO ANY DIFFERENCES FROM LAST YEAR CHANGES, TRENDS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN SPEAK TO, WHICH IS WHAT I'M GOING TO COVER, UM, TODAY ON JUST KIND ONLY OVER SPECIFICALLY THE POINT IN TIME COUNT NUMBERS FROM 2025.
UM, SO I IMAGINE IT'LL BE HELPFUL IF YOU GET A VISUAL, UM, BUT I CAN, I CAN, I CAN START BY SAYING, UM, THE 2025 CALC IS, WE USE, USE, UM, ALMOST IDENTICAL METHODOLOGY THAT WE DID IN 2024.
SO THE SAME SURVEY APP, NEARLY THE EXACT SAME QUESTION THAT WE ASKED IN 2024.
AND SO, UM, THIS LENDS ITSELF TO A REALLY GOOD COMPARISON, UH, OVER FROM THIS YEAR, UM, FROM THE LAST YEAR.
SO IN USING VERY, UM, STABLE METHODOLOGY, DATA QUESTIONS, UM, ALL OF THAT, UM, IT ALLOWS FOR US TO DO SOME NICE, UM, SOME NICE COMPARISONS.
THAT IS A 290 PERSON INCREASE FROM 2024, UM, UH, WHICH IS A SIX AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE.
UM, SO THIS GRAPHIC HERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE, THE UPS AND DOWNS, UM, OVER THE PAST DECADE OR SO, I MEAN, SO YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY RIGHT OF THAT GRAPH, UM, YOU'LL SEE A SIX POINT HALF PERCENT INCREASE.
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QUESTION, UM, WHICH RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT ANY MID NORMAL VIRUS IN LA COUNTY, UM, AND THAT ACCOUNTED FOR, UM, A MAJORITY OF THAT 219, IT'S STILL AN INCREASE REGARDLESS.AND SO, UM, THAT GRAPHIC OVER HERE, UM, AND I'M, I'M FREE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF AS AS YOU HAVE THEM.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO JUST AGAIN, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND, AND COVERING THIS COMPLETELY.
UM, THIS YEAR, 2025, THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR, OF THE PEOPLE, THE RESPONDENTS FOR THE SURVEY THAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN THIS YEAR.
IT'S NOT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE.
AND THAT'S IN LARGE PART, OR WE BELIEVE THAT'S IN LARGE PART BECAUSE, UM, THE NEWLY HOMELESS POPULATION OR THE FIRST PEOPLE EXPERIENCING LESSNESS FOR THE FIRST TIME WENT UP.
AND SO THAT ACTUALLY MATCHES OUR EXPECTATIONS THAT THE AGE GOES DOWN, UM, THAT FITS WITH THE, THE, WITH THE NARRATIVE THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE, ARE EXPERIENCING.
YEAH, SO THE AVERAGE AGE, UH, WENT DOWN TWO YEARS.
SO FROM 58, UM, HERE IT'S, SORRY, FROM, UM, 48.8 TO 46.8.
OUR, OUR POPULATION GOT YOUNGER.
AND AGAIN, UM, THERE I, I HAVE NO ABILITY TO ACTUALLY GENERATE COMMONALITY HERE, BUT IT DOES MATCH THE CORRELATION DOES MATCH EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE FIRST TIME HOME PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
AND SO THAT, THAT ACTUALLY DOES MAP OUR EXPECTATION.
UM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO BE BECAME RECENTLY HOMELESS.
SO THIS IS FIRST TIME HOMELESS AND FOR LESS THAN ONE YEAR, THAT ACTUALLY REMAINED RELATIVELY STABLE.
BUT WE DID SEE A CHANGE IN OUR UNSHELTERED, UM, THAT ACTUALLY WENT UP A LITTLE BIT AMONG OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, UM, OUR CHRONIC HOMELESS POPULATION THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS WENT DOWN.
AGAIN, THAT MATCHES OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR THE FIRST TIME WENT UP.
UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE, THE MOST COMMON DREAM, WHY PEOPLE, UM, UH, BECAME HOMELESS OR THE, THE REASONS WHY THEY LISTED, UH, THEIR CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS, UM, CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS YEARS.
FINANCIAL HARDSHIP IS BY AND LARGE SORT OF THE PRIMARY RECENT PEOPLE, UM, IDENTIFYING AS CAUSING THEIR HOMELESSNESS.
THERE REALLY WERE NOT TOO MANY CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF THE CAUSES, UH, THAT PEOPLE IDENTIFY.
ONE INTERESTING POINT TO NOTE IS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, EXPERIENCING SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IDENTIFY MORE CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED MOVEMENT.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO IDENTIFY MORE CAUSES, UM, IN TERMS OF NUMBERS, THE REST OF THAT PAGE WITH MORE, UM, DETAILS ON SOME COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, MOVING TO, UM, WHERE DID YOU LOSE YOUR HOUSE INSTEAD? THIS IS BASED A QUESTION THAT WE, UM, INSTITUTED IN, OH, I DIDN'T, UH, NEXT POSSIBLY ONE, ONE MORE.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, WHERE DO PEOPLE THEIR, THEIR HOUSING, UM, ROUGHLY OR OVER HALF THE POPULATION, UM, THAT WE, UH, INTERVIEWED, OVER HALF OF THEM LOST THEIR HOUSING IN LONG BEACH.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE KIND OF THE REGION AS A WHOLE, UM, WITHIN NEIGHBORING REGIONS, ABOUT 90% OF THE POPULATION EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH BECAME HOMELESS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND ONLY IT, IT, ABOUT 10% OF THE POPULATION WAS COMING FROM A NON NEIGHBORING REGION.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, HOMELESSNESS AND VEHICLES, THIS IS A NUMBER THAT WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
AND I HAVE THE, THE 2024 NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, UM, WE HAD ABOUT ROUGHLY 32% OF OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, UM, WAS EXPERIENCED IN HOMELESSNESS, BUT THEY WERE, UH, THEY WERE LIVING IN THEIR VEHICLE.
SO THAT'S A, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, UM, FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION.
38% OF THE UNSHELTERED VEHICLE? THAT'S CORRECT.
38% OF THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION ARE LIVING UNDER THEIR VEHICLES.
SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, THAT INCLUDES THE, THE VANS, THE RVS, RVS, VANS, CARS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY SOMEBODY COULD NOT BE CONSIDERED SHELTERED IF THEY'RE LIVING OUTTA THEIR VEHICLE.
AND SO THAT PERCENTAGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO UNSHELTERED, UH, INDIVIDUALS.
UH, IN TERMS OF RACIAL DISTRIBUTION, NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ABOVE EXCEPT FOR ONE CATEGORY, WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO IDENTIFIED AS LATINX.
THAT WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, IN 2025 IN COMPARISON TO 2024.
UM, WE DID IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE METHODOLOGY AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE USED IN THIS NEW QUESTIONNAIRE ARE ALMOST
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IDENTICAL.THE ONE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THAT WE MADE WAS IN IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, ARE CURRENTLY FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SO ONE THING THAT WE SAW IN THE PAST IS THAT WE GOT VERY LOW RESPONSE RATES TO THIS QUESTION, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
IT'S A VERY SENSITIVE QUESTION.
UM, IN COMPARISON TO LIKE OUR HMIS DATA FROM, FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, WE WERE NOT GETTING A CONSISTENT RESPONSE RATE, NOR WERE WE GETTING THE CONSISTENT, UM, PERCENTAGE OF INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFYING AS FLEE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND SO WE ADJUSTED THE QUESTION TO MAKE IT MORE INCORRECT.
UM, WE INSTITUTED, UM, A DIFFERENT SURVEY METHODOLOGY, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF QUESTION.
AND SO IN DOING SO, IT WAS A RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIAL QUESTION.
SO WE, UM, NEARLY GOBBLED THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO IDENTIFIED SCREEN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN 2025, COMPARISON TO 2024.
IN 2024, WE GOT ABOUT FIVE AND HALF PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS IDENTIFYING AS LEADING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND IN 2025 GOT 10 AND A HALF PERCENT.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT BUMP UP IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILLING TO IDENTIFY WITH THAT QUESTION.
AND SO, UM, YOU SAW SIGNIFICANTLY THE AREA LARGEST ADJUSTMENT WAS MEN SPEAKING TO EXPERIENCE HAD VIOLENCE WHERE VERY FEW PREVIOUS THAT METHODOLOGY DID.
AND WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT PLACEMENT SAY THAT I, I'VE EXPERIENCED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SO IT MIGHT BE THE STIGMA OF SAYING THAT HAS A MAN, WHICH EVENTUALLY SOME THE DOESN'T BE GONE.
YEAH, THE, THE ENTIRE REASON WHY WE CHANGED THE METHODOLOGY WAS BECAUSE THAT QUESTION IS, IT CAUSED THE STIGMA.
IT CAUSES STIGMA OR IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO BE VERY SENSITIVE AND, AND DO NOT WANNA RESPOND TO IT.
AND SO, YES, ONE OF THE INTERESTING POINTS THAT WE SAW FROM THAT WAS WE HAD A LOT MORE MEN, UH, IDENTIFYING, UM, WITH THAT QUESTION.
UM, MOVING ON TO VETERANS, UH, OUR VETERAN POPULATION, UM, WENT DOWN, UH, AND SO FROM 20 24, 11 0.3% AND IN 2025 AND 9.6%, SO THE, THE WRONG NUMBER AND THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION THAT IDENTIFIES AS A VETERAN, UH, THAT WENT DOWN FROM ONE YOU GRAPHICS THAT LIKE THAT.
BUT DO, DO YOU HAVE GRAPHICS THAT SHOW THE BREAKDOWN LIKE THAT ON VETERANS? WELL, ON ALL OF THE, SO THIS, THE PLANNING PAGE UNDER THE HOMELESS COUNT OR YEAH, I THINK IT'S EASIER IF WE COULD LOOK AT SURE, YEAH.
I WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE OVER INTO THERE.
YOU WANT TO CONNECT THIS? LET ME FINISH THIS SIDE OF THINGS.
SO AFTER VETERANS, UM, THERE WAS A HYPOTHETICAL THAT WE INCLUDED THIS YEAR, WHICH WAS, UM, THE, THE, THE HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT IF NOBODY HAD BECOME LEGALLY HOMELESS? THE REASON WHY WE INCORPORATED THIS SPECIFIC QUESTION OR THIS HYPOTHETICAL WAS BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, UH, WE WOULD GET ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER THAT THERE'S JUST, IT'S 219 MORE PEOPLE THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR.
IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 72 PEOPLE.
UM, THE DIFFERENCE WAS SLIGHT OR IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS, UM, LITTLE MOVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE, THE RAW NUMBERS THEMSELVES.
AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE WAS THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A FLOW.
THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE MOVING IN AND OUT OF HOMELESSNESS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR.
AND SO THE FACT THAT THESE NUMBERS MAY MOVE UP OR DOWN A HUNDRED, UM, INDIVIDUALS OR SO, UM, WE TOOK NUMBERS OF THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO EXITED HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, UM, DESTINATIONS WAS, UM, ABOUT 1500 OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS.
AND SO THE IDEA HERE WAS EACH YEAR, SORRY, YES.
EACH YEAR, UM, THERE WAS ABOUT 1500 INDIVIDUALS WHO MOVED OUT OF HOMELESSNESS INTO, UM, HOUSE SITUATIONS.
IF NO ONE BECAME NEWLY HOMELESS IN THAT TIME, THE NUMBERS WOULD REDUCE SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND SO THE REASON WHY THE POINT IN TIME COUNT LOOKS RELATIVELY STABLE IS BECAUSE WELL, PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS, BUT THEN NEW PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO A HOMELESSNESS.
AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THIS HYPOTHETICAL TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IF NO ONE WAS BECOMING HOMELESS OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME, THAT NUMBER WOULD'VE GONE DOWN, UM, TO ZERO, UH, SINCE 2022 TO 2025.
BUT WE'RE, I MEAN, BASED ON DATA ESTIMATING THAT ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE BECOME HOMELESS EACH DAY, EACH WE HAVE THREE, BUT, BUT FIVE.
UM, AND THEN SO TO JULIE, TO YOUR POINT, THE NEXT PAGE, THEN IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE GRAPHICS HERE, THE QUICKER WORKING
SO THERE'S THAT NUMBER AGAIN, THAT, THAT TOP LINE NUMBER 3, 5, 9, 5.
OUR CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS WENT DOWN, KATIE FROM LAST YEAR, UM, FROM I BELIEVE 52% TO 46, 40 8%.
UM, OUR FIRST PEOPLE, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THAT? APRIL? PEOPLE IN 2024.
THIS IS MY 2024, UH, 1,705 PEOPLE.
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IN, UH, IN 2025, OUR FIRST EPISODE OF HOMELESSNESS, AGAIN, THAT WENT UP FROM ABOUT 53 AND A HALF PERCENT TO 57 AND A HALF PERCENT RIGHT HERE.UM, AND SO AGAIN, THE RATE AT WHICH OR THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT WENT UP ONTO SOME MORE GRAPHICS.
LIKE I SAID, OUR AGE DEMOGRAPHICS SHIFTED MORE YOUNG IN THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR.
UH, YOU'LL SEE A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE NUMBER OF, UM, INDIVIDUALS AGED 65 AND OVER.
UH, AND HOWEVER YOU, YOU'LL SEE A COMMENSURATE INCREASE IN THE INDIVIDUALS AGE 35 AND 44.
SO IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, UM, KIND OF THAT'S WHERE THEY, UM, YEAH, IT IS ALMOST A TRADE OFF BETWEEN THOSE TWO AGE GROUPS.
UM, IN TERMS OF GENDER, NO REAL SIGNIFICANT SHIFT WITH THE GENDER DISTRIBUTION.
UM, AND SO NO REAL CHANGES THERE IN TERMS OF RACE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF WE SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UM, NO REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ASIDE FROM, UM, LATINX, MOST OTHER CATEGORIES KIND OF TOOK ON THE, THE PERCENTAGE BREAK OUT, IF YOU WILL.
SO, UM, THE LATINX POPULATION I BELIEVE REDUCED ABOUT 4%, AND THAT WAS KIND OF SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE OTHER, UH, RACIAL CATEGORIES IN TERMS OF OUR SHELTERED VERSUS UNSHELTERED BREAKOUT.
THAT BREAKOUT DOES NOT CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY.
WE DID HAVE A HIGHER SHELTERED RATE JUST SLIGHTLY.
UM, WE DID END UP HAVING ABOUT 70 MORE FILLED, UM, IN 2025 THAN IN 2024.
AND SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SHELTERED, UM, IS HIGHER IN 2025 THAN IT WAS IN 2024.
BUT THAT'S NOT MOVING THE PERCENTAGE NEEDLE, UH, INTO, IT'S NOT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT THE DIFFERENCE, OR AT LEAST THE, THE PERCENTAGE BREAKOUT BETWEEN, I WOULD'VE GONE, OUR SHELTER PERCENT WOULD'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE MORE SIGNIFICANTLY IF WE HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, KNOWING.
LIVING IN VEHICLES TO YOUR QUESTION BEFORE JULIE.
UH, JUST OVER A THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LIVING OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES.
SO AGAIN, THAT REPRESENTS, UM, NEARLY 30 UN SHOT
AND SO WE HAVE A 50 50 SPLIT BASICALLY, UH, OF VETERANS THAT ARE SHELTERED VERSUS UNSHELTERED IN 2025.
AND SO, UM, BUT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO GET LIKE THE, THE OVERALL NUMBER OF VETERAN HOMELESSNESS IS GOING DOWN.
OUR L INDIVIDUALS WHO IDENTIFY PLUS REMAINS CONSISTENT FROM LAST YEAR FOR WHATEVER REASON IN 2023, WE HAD A, A HIGHER RATE OF IDENTIFICATION THERE.
I'M, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I, I THINK I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION, UM, BEFORE WHERE I'M, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR WHY WE SAW THAT, UM, THAT INCREASE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEVELING OFF FROM 2024 TO 2025, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS DECREASED SLIGHTLY.
IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TREND HERE, BUT AGAIN, UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY FROM A STATISTICAL STANDPOINT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS, UM, AN ACTUAL TREND OR WE JUST NEED THREE DATA POINTS IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
UM, WE HAD A CASE STUDY SPECIFICALLY FOR RIVERBED, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE, UH, ENCAMPED ALONG THE RIVER BED, THE LA RIVERBED.
UM, THIS IS IMPORTANT CONSIDERING THAT, UM, THIS IS PART OF OUR, OUR REQUEST FOR ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION.
AND SO, UM, WE ACTUALLY, I, I, I IDENTIFIED, UM, UM, SOME DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, UH, LAST YEAR AS WELL.
AND THEY REMAIN CONSISTENT FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
THEY DO THIS, THIS GROUP TENDS TO SKEW YOUNGER, UM, THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION.
UM, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE MEN, UM, AND AGAIN, AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATE THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION.
UM, IT IS MORE, UH, MORE RACIALLY DIVERSE.
SO THERE WERE, THERE WAS A HIGHER PROPORTION OF INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFYING LATINX FROM THIS RIVERBED, UH, IN, FROM THIS GROUP OF, OF RIVERBED INDIVIDUALS THAN THE GENERAL POPULATIONS, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE FACING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
NEXT PAGE, UM, CHILDHOOD TRAUMA, UM, WA UH, PLAYS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE, UH, IN, OR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LIVING OUT ON THE RIVERBED.
AND, UM, FINANCIAL STRUGGLES, AGAIN, KIND OF MIRRORING WHAT THE GENERAL POPULATION IS.
IDENTIFYING FINANCIAL STRUGGLES ACTUALLY PLAYED A SLIGHTLY LARGER ROLE, OR THERE'S A, A SLIGHTLY HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF INDIVIDUALS ALONG THE RIVERBED IDENTIFY FINANCIALS ARE AS A CAUSE OF THEIR HOMELESSNESS.
UM, MOVING ON TO, UM, YOUTH HOMELESSNESS, UH, I'LL, I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE WHO'S A NON-DATA PERSON TALK ABOUT LIKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M SIMPLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE GO BACK TO COUNT.
UM, SO THE YOUTH HOMELESSNESS, UM, THAT WAS A, A SPECIAL EMPHASIS, UH, THIS TIME AROUND.
UM, THERE ARE MORE, THE SHELTER RATE FOR YOUTH HOMELESSNESS,
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UM, IS HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION.ABOUT 40% OF YOUTH EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH ARE SHELTERED, UM, VERSUS ABOUT, UH, A QUARTER OF THOSE IN THE GENERAL, UH, ADULT POPULATION.
THE MAJORITY ARE MALE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A SLIGHTLY SMALLER, UM, PROPORTION THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION.
SO IT'S A MORE EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN MEN, WOMEN, AND INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFYING TRANSGENDER OR NON-BINARY.
UM, INSTEAD OF THE, THE HIGHLY SKEWED MALE DISTRIBUTION AMONG, AMONG ADULTS.
UM, AND AGAIN, UM, FROM A RACIAL STANDPOINT, UM, BLACK YOUTH REPRESENT A MUCH LARGER PROPORTION OF THE YOUTH HOMELESS POPULATION THAN THEY WOULD OF THE, UM, THE GENERAL ADULT POPULATION.
AND SO THERE IS A, UM, AN OVERREPRESENTATION OF THAT RACIAL CATEGORY.
UM, YEAH, SO TRANSITIONAL EACH YOUTH THE NEXT PAGE PLEASE.
UM, SO WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FROM THE FOSTER YOUTH SYSTEM, FAR MORE, UM, YOUTH IDENTIFIED AS BEING FORMER FOSTER YOUTH THAN THE GENERAL ADULT POPULATION.
UM, FAR MORE OF THEM WERE LIKELY, UH, FAR MORE OF THEM IDENTIFIED AS STUDENTS.
UM, AND SURVIVORS OF CHILDHOOD TRAUMA OR ABUSE, UH, OVER HALF OF THE YOUTH HOMELESS POPULATION IDENTIFIED AS EXPERIENCING CHILDHOOD TRAUMA OR ABUSE, UM, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER PROPORTION OF THE GENERAL ADULT POPULATION.
UM, AGAIN, OVER HALF ARE DEALING WITH, UM, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FAR MORE THAN THE GENERAL ADULT POPULATION AND THE LARGER PROPORTION OF THEM IDENTIFY AS FELLOW YOU PLUS, UM, WHETHER THE CITY DOING, I WILL SKIP OVER THAT AND MOVE ON TO THE, UH, UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.
UM, SO I, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS OF INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFYING, UM, THAT THEY HAD PHYSICAL DISABILITY OR SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS.
THESE NUMBERS SPEAK, UM, MORE OR LESS TO THE SAME PROPORTION THAT THEY DID IN 2024.
PHYSICAL DISABILITY, 33%, UM, SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS IS, UM, IS HIGHER THAN MOST OF THE OTHER, UH, CATEGORIES HERE.
THESE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS.
UM, I'M GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
UNDER THE CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS, THE, UM, AGAIN, THE FINANCIAL, UH, CAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS IS THE LARGEST, UH, REASON WHY PEOPLE IDENTIFY AS, UH, THE LARGEST CAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS THAT PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH.
UH, AND THEN THE SECOND LARGEST BEING FAMILY DISRUPTION, UH, AGAIN, FINANCIAL, UH, THAT CATEGORY SPECIFICALLY IS UP SLIGHTLY ABOUT 4% FROM LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANY OF THE CAUSES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.
MORE PEOPLE IDENTIFIED AS, UM, THAT AS HAVING, UH, THAT THAT FINANCIAL TROUBLES ARE CAUSING THEIR HOMELESSNESS THIS YEAR THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS MORE OR LESS STABLE AND RED BURDEN, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
EVERYTHING ELSE, NO OTHER NUMBERS TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, BUT I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WE, WE CHANGED OUR MAP AREAS JUST SLIGHTLY AND SO THE, WE DID ADD, UM, A MAP AREA TO THIS YEAR'S COUNT.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF, UH, THE QUESTIONS ASKED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT REMAIN RELATIVELY CONSISTENT FOR LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
ANY OTHER, I SHOULD SAY THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY SECTION OF WHAT'S IN THE POINT OF FINDING REPORT OFTEN.
ANY COMMENTS ON QUESTIONS OR, SORRY, THE REPORT WASN'T WITH IT.
WE JUST, YOU KNOW, RELEASED TUESDAY AND WE WERE WORKING KNOW IT'S GETTING WORKED ON RIGHT UNTIL THE END, BUT IT IS POSTED ONLINE.
WE MAKE SURE THAT GETS SENT ON COVID GROUP AND THEN I GET DATED AND POSTED ON UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON, UH, PAGE FIVE AT THE TOP YOU SAY THERE IS 1,357 SHELTER BEDS IN LONG BEACH, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND ON PAGE 10, YOU HAVE A SHELTERED COUNT OF 989.
WHAT'S DOES THAT REFER TO? SO WE HAD GONE OVER A LITTLE BIT PREVIOUSLY AROUND, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO LIKE OUR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PORTFOLIO ON THE, WE, WE SEEN SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT UNDER UTILIZATION IN VETERAN GPD BEDS.
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OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEDS AVAILABLE THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT UNDER UTILIZATION.UM, THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT OUR CITY OWNED OR GOVERNMENT FUNDED THAT, BUT STUFF THAT IS ALL IN PRIVATE BY THE FUNDING OR OUTSIDE
SO I GONNA TELL YOU ON, ON THE GRASSES ON I SEEN AT 368, THEN THEY MAKE AND WHERE ARE THEY? SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT OF THE 359, SO YOU'LL SEE ON THAT GRAPHIC ON PAGE FIVE, THE 359 OWNED BY THE CITY, THOSE ARE BEDS THAT WE DIRECTLY INFLUENCE IN TERMS OF BOTH LACING INDIVIDUALS WHO COME TO, TO THE MSC OR TO OUTREACH.
WE ARE, UM, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FULFILLING THOSE BEDS.
WE ARE AT A 98% OCCUPANCY RATE FOR OVER A YEAR ON THOSE 359 BEDS.
AND SO I CAN TELL YOU WE GOT OF THE BEDS THAT WE CAN FILL OURSELVES, WE ARE FULFILL AT THE, THAT WE CAN.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE BEDS THAT ARE VACANT TO POINT, UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE CHRONICALLY UNDERUTILIZED, UH, AND THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS, VISIT IT, THE COUNTY, I WOULD HAVE TO GO
AND AFTER LOOKING AT UNDER THE UTILIZATION, WE HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF BEDS THAT WE FUND, UM, AS A FUNDER.
SO WE DID REDUCE THAT FUNDING IN THIS PAST YEAR DUE TO, AGAIN, MULTIPLE TRENDS.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO WANNA CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SERVING VETERANS, BUT WE'RE SEEING A TREND.
SO THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLOCATED TO CREATE MORE PERMANENT HOUSING.
UM, SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BEDS THAT ARE FUNDED, SOME ARE PRIVATE, SO WE TECHNICALLY HAS NECESSARILY AUTHORITY TO DIRECT OR TAKE AWAY FUNDING.
UM, WE DO PUBLISH WHAT IS CALLED A HOUSING INVENTORY ACCOUNT EACH YEAR.
AND YOU CAN GO IN, THAT CAN GO SHELTER BY SHELTER.
THAT MAKES UP POSTER FOOD THAT WE SEVEN AND DIRECTLY SEE WHAT THE OCCUPANCY, WHERE WOULD THAT BE? PUBLISH ON THE WEBSITE? HUD PUBLISHES THE HOUSING I RIGHT NOW OR EVERY COMMUNITY? EVERY COMMUNITY, YES.
IT'LL BE A ABBREVIATED HIT, HIC.
SO YOU REMOVE FUNDING FROM BECAUSE OF UNDER UTILIZATION, RIGHT.
WHEN WE NEED BEDS, THESE ARE BEDS THAT HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY UNDERUTILIZED AND YOU DIDN'T BILL THOSE BEDS.
BUT AGAIN, THOSE HAVE BEEN THERE.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY CONTROL, YOU KNOW, VETERAN INTAKE TO THEM.
WE WERE FUNDING THEM, BUT THE, THEY WERE A COMBINATION OF GRANT PER DIEM BIDS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE VA.
SO OUR PORTION WAS MUCH SMALLER.
UM, WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE UTILIZATION OF 'EM AND AT THAT POINT WE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE FUNDING BETTER SPENT ON ADDITIONAL PERMANENT HOUSING RESOURCES.
AND THAT WAS A DECISION ON THE CONTINUING CARE BOARD ALONG WITH BEYOND RECOMMENDATIONS THEMSELVES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE, UM, WELL ONE THING IS WHY IS IT WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING US THE, WE DIDN'T GET A, AN ADVANCED NOTIFICATION AS A, AS A COMMISSION OR AS A COMMITTEE THAT THIS WAS, THIS WAS GETTING READY TO COME OUT AND WHY IS IT WE DIDN'T GET TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE THAT, THE POINT IN TIME NOW.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY BY MAYOR AND THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY HIS DECISION.
SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUR DECISION.
I KNOW, OR I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT, A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE IF THE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY SAW THIS BEFORE IT BECAME PUBLIC BECAUSE THE MEDIA ACTUALLY GOT IT BEFORE WE DID.
THERE WAS A MEETING ON JUNE 2ND THAT YOU ATTENDED THAT WAS A ROUND TABLE MEETING FOR THE MEDIA.
NOBODY HERE KNEW ABOUT THAT, NOR DID WE HAVE A COPY OF THIS AS FAR AS I KNOW.
I JUST GOT THIS AND I REVIEWED IT CAREFULLY, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH IN HERE THAT IT IS OVERWHELMING HOW MUCH THERE IS AS WELL AS THE, THE
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VERBAL PART OF IT.UM, SO MY COMMENT IS THAT I THINK THAT THESE KIND OF THINGS SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO US FIRST WHEN, WHEN EVEN, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A DRAFT SO WE CAN, WE CAN BE AWARE OF IT AND REVIEW IT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE OR IS THAT, I AM I ASKING? I I DON'T THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF WAS ABLE TO CONTROL.
I THINK THIS, THE DOCUMENT THAT THE AMERICA METHOD ADD
LIKE I THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
JUST AGAIN, NOT THAT I CONTROL IT.
I MEAN THAT IS SOMETHING YOU BRING UP, BUT IT IS NOT WITHIN NECESSARILY THE CONTROL OF, OF STAFF AT THIS TABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
UM, THAT IS, THAT IS A CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL DECISION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT WITHIN DIFFERENT PRACTICE FOR ALMOST EVERY COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES THE ALMOST COUNT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
UM, SO THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WITH ALMOST COUNT RELEASES WAS THEY TEND TO BE A RELEASE FROM LOCAL ELECTED LEADERSHIP, UH, WITH STAFF SOMETIMES INVOLVED DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND HOW THEY WANT TO RELEASE IT, UH, HAPPENS.
UM, AND SO TYPICALLY GET EM TO THE MEDIA AND THEY
ANY OTHER QUESTION? CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION? YOU SURVEYED 1,008 PEOPLE AND DID, IS THAT WHAT YOU QUOTED OR HOW MANY SURVEYS WERE ACTUALLY, HOW MANY SURVEYS WERE CONDUCTED? UM, SO SPECIFICALLY THE DEMOGRAPHIC SURVEYS THAT WE WENT OUT AND ASKED, ADMINISTERED TO, UM, PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS, WE CONDUCTED 1,459 DEMOGRAPHIC SURVEYS.
AND DID YOU EVER TAKE YOUR, OH, I'M SORRY.
DID YOU, DO YOU HAPPEN TO GET ANY, UM, SPECIFIC NUMBERS BASED ON WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED? WE HAVE ACCOUNT COULD, IF, IF I WAS TO ASK YOU WHERE IS THE MAJORITY OF THESE PEOPLE LOCATED? COULD YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT? UH, I COULD GIVE YOU, UM, THIS WASN'T TAKEN BY, I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT CHART.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE LIKE HEAT PACK INFORMATION, SO I COULD TELL YOU THAT LIKE THE, THE, THERE ARE CENTERS WHERE THERE, THERE ARE AREAS OF CONCENTRATION, UH, THAT YOU'LL SEE.
SO DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH IS PROBABLY UNSURPRISING, UM, CENTER.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS SUCH AS LIKE CLOSE TO THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER.
UM, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA OF CONCENTRATION AS WELL.
SO YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE GENERIC INFORMATION LIKE THAT.
I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LIKE WHERE THESE PUMPS ARE, WHERE THE LARGEST GROUPS ARE, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
I THINK THAT WOULD HELP IN ANALYZING WHERE THE SERVICES ARE MOST NEEDED.
WE HAVE NOT FIELD LOCATION DATA IN THE
SO THERE'S 72 MAPS THAT WE SEVEN DO 72 MAP AREAS.
HOW MANY DO MAP AREAS THAT TEAMS WENT OUT TO? SO WE'VE RELEASED IN THE PAST HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE COUNT COUNTED WITHIN A MAP AREA.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SAID THIS IS THE GEOLOCATION FOR SOMEBODY.
SO, UM, THE MAPS, YOU KNOW, 72 MAPS FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, IT GETS FAIRLY PRECISE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, IN MOST CASES A 10 TO 15 BLOCK RADIUS.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN RELEASED IN THE PAST.
THAT WAS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE SEEN IN THE MAP.
SO WHERE DID THAT MAP? WELL, WE HAVE NOT NECESSARILY, LIKE WE'VE PUBLISHED A MAP IN THE PAST, WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY LIKE PUBLISHED BY MAP AREA, BUT WE HAVE RELEASED THAT INFORMATION ON PEOPLE HAVE ASKED.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, IF, IF I MAY RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT WHERE SERVICES ARE NEEDED AS A DATA PERSON PERHAPS.
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UM, YOU MAY SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE HERE.UM, BECAUSE AREAS OF CONCENTRATION ARE ACTUALLY PROBABLY IN, IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT YOU SUGGESTED, UM, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO TO WHERE SERVICES ALREADY ARE.
SO IN FACT, THE AREAS WHERE THERE'S LITTLE CONCENTRATION, ARGUABLY THESE COURSE SERVICES NEEDED AND FOR EXAMPLE, I, I LIVED IN, IN NORTH LONG BEACH DOWN THAT WAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL HOW BAD THE PROBLEM GETS THERE.
BECAUSE MOST OF THEM YOU DON'T SEE ON THE STREET, BUT THEY'RE IN THE NOOKS AND CRANNIES.
I MEAN, THEY'RE THERE, THEY EXIST DEFINITELY.
BUT I WAS, I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, CURIOUS THAT SINCE EACH OF US AS COUNCIL PEOPLE, UM, DO ACTUALLY REPRESENT A DISTRICT THAT PERHAPS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER NUMBERS, BUT PERHAPS THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THEIR GENERAL DISTRICT.
IT AND IF IT WAS REPORTED BY, UM, IF WE COULD GET SOME NUMBERS BY SAY, 'CAUSE I SAW THE MAP SOMEWHERE.
I THINK IT WAS IN THE, YOU SEE LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S IT YOU GUYS USED AND ALL THE NUMBERS ON IT.
IF, IF WE COULD GET THE STATISTICS BY NUMBER, THEN WE WOULD KNOW FOR SURE HOW BAD OUR PARTICULAR AREA IS.
AND IF WE WERE IN CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, WE, I'M SURE I'M QUITE SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT AS WELL.
SO THEY WOULD KNOW, OKAY, IS THIS THIS HUGE ISSUE IN OUR AREA AND THEY'RE JUST HIDDEN AWAY OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO FOCUS ON AS MUCH BECAUSE WE GOT IT COVERED, YOU KNOW, UM, SARAH HAS TO LEAVE
BUT DOUG, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO QUESTION.
SO LOOKING THERE IS MATH RIGHT? NOT GET, IS THAT, SO THAT'S A MAP THAT HAS THE COUNT IN EACH OF THOSE GEOGRAPH MAP? NO, SO EACH ONE OF THOSE RECORDS, SO WE, WE CONDUCTED COUNT LEADS 72 UNIQUE REGIONS.
SO WE SEND OUT LIENS AND WE ASSIGN EACH TEAM OR REGIONS.
SO THESE ARE THE REGIONS? THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK IT IS COUNT BY ONE THOSE.
YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN I, I I, I KIND OF HAVE A GENERAL SENSE FOR HEY STAR, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST FAMILY, THERE SEEM TO BE A FAIR NUMBER IN CARS AND VEHICLES AND, AND WE'RE NEAR THE RIVERHEAD.
SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KIND OF KNOW THE DISTRIBUTION SOME WAY BY DISTRICT, BY WEST SIDE, WEST SIDE, NORTH, SOUTH DISTRICT.
THE DISTRICT IS SOMETHING RELATED TO DISTRICT CONTROL AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND IS ALMOST, THIS IS MORE SPREAD OUT THAN YOU REALLY THINK IT IS.
THERE'S DEFINITELY AREAS MORE ATION MATH IS FOR THE MSC, THE REALITY, UH, I DON'T THINK PROBABLY SURPRISE.
UM, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE DOLPHIN'S POINT.
BUT YEAH, WE CAN, AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT BRINGING BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING A BREAKDOWN, A NUMBER BY MAP MM-HMM
UM, WE'VE REALLY STAYED, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN ASKED IN THE PAST TO MAKE RELEASE LOOKS, SO NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS CONCERNING.
THE ONE THING THAT'S, AGAIN, PART OF OUR SURVEY PROCESS IS WE SAY WE'RE GONNA TRY TO PROVIDE AN ANONYMITIES.
SO THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO LEAST IS ACTUAL LEGAL.
SO YEAH, JUST THE OVERALL DATA.
I MEAN THERE'S THIS HUGE 62% INCREASE IN TWO
AND YET THE HOMELESS COW HAS NOT DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT BEEN A, YOU MEAN WHATEVER THEY EXPECT BEFORE IT BEEN CORRECTED, BUT IS ECONOMY'S GOTTEN BETTER? EMPLOYMENT'S GOTTEN BETTER, BUT THAT BUMP OF 62%
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IS STILL BEING OUS.UM, AND I THINK THE OTHER OBSERVATION IN THIS IS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT INITIATIVE THE INITIATIVES HAVE BEEN DONE.
SO FOR INSTANCE, THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT FUNDS, DURING THE TIME WE'VE HAD THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT FUNDS, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A DROP IN HOMELESSNESS.
AND THE HOMELESSNESS ENCAMPMENT FUNDS ARE ONLY TWO YEARS AND OR GOOD MONEY.
AND UM, THEY HAVE A LOW PERCENTAGE FINDING HOUSING, 10 PERCENTAGE.
SO OF THOSE TAKEN CARE OF, IT'S ULTIMATELY FINE HOUSING, WHICH MAY BE JUST KIND WHAT THE NORMAL GRADING IS.
JOSH, IS THERE A QUESTION HERE? NO, IT'S AN OBSERVATION.
SO THE, THE OBSERVATION IS HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT FUNDS ARE NOT STALLING TO A SIGNIFICANT, THEY'RE HELPING WITH, THEY'RE HAVING A DIFFERENT PURPOSE.
THEY'RE KIND OF DELAYING, PEOPLE ARE PUT IN SHELTER AND THEN THEY COME OUT AGAIN, 90% OF THEM COME BACK OUT AGAIN.
SO THAT'S NOT A SHELTERING STRATEGY.
SO I THINK FOR ME, THE SUMMARY IS YEAH, A LOT OF 'EM, A LOT OF THEM SHELTER HOMELESS AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
UNSHELTERED HOMELESS, IT'S NOT GETTING BETTER.
I THINK FOR THE PERCEPTION, IF YOU NEED, YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.
LIKE THEY ARE MUCH MORE FOCUSED NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TOWN WENT UP BY LIKE 10% THAT YOU'RE A SHELTER, HOMELESSNESS 1 0 5, 30% PEOPLE WOULD STILL SAY HOMELESSNESS IS GETTING BETTER.
I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT THAN THAT BECAUSE THERE'S LESS PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE VISUALLY SEEING OMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SHELTERED.
UM, SO I THINK THERE IS SOME VALIDITY TO THAT POINT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION, IT REALLY IS ABOUT MOSTLY ON SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE SEEN IN STUDIES AND LOOKING AT DATA, YOU CAN LOOK AT MENTAL HEALTH RATES, SUBSTANCE USE RATES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
REALLY THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT IS SEEN, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOMELESSNESS INCREASING IS OUR RENT PRICES INCREASING AND PEOPLE AFFORD TO LIVE.
AND I FIND THIS CHART EACH TIME, YOU KNOW, WE UPDATE IT TO VIA A TENURE YEAR PERIOD.
EVERY, EVERY TIME WE DO A REPORT AND IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO UP EVERY YEAR IS, YOU KNOW, GRANTS CONTINUE TO RISE WITHIN THE COUNTY, WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN THE STATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A VISUAL SCENE.
I'M THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A HUMANITARIAN UNHOUSED, NO SHELTER.
SPENDING THE NIGHT OUT ON THE STREET IS CRUEL AND WE'RE GONNA DO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT BED PART, PUT A ROOF OVER THE HEAD OF PEOPLE AND WE HAVE A LOW PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOW PERCENTAGE OF OUR, A LARGE PERCENTAGE ARE UNSHELTERED.
AND TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT A ROOF OVER THE HEAD OF OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, WHICH IS HIGH IN STATE, THAT THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEFINITELY ADDED MEAT FILTER SINCE, YOU KNOW, 2020 WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF SEE THAT SHIFT UP TOWARDS 62% OF THAT BETWEEN 2020 AND 2022.
YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SHELTERS OPENING THIS YEAR.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE INITIAL CONVERSATION THAT CAN INCREASE SHELTER REVENUE FURTHER WITHIN THE CITY.
SO I THINK WE ARE GONNA SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE THAT, BUT WE'RE TALKING COUPLE HUNDRED BED OR DEFINITELY THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADD NEW PERMANENT HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AS WELL.
LIKE OUR BEST WAY TO REDUCE OUR SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IS A COMBINATION OF ADDITIONAL SHELTER EVENTS AND GETTING PEOPLE BACK INTO A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE, WE CAN DO THOSE IN COMBINATION HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF DRIVING DOWN EARTH.
JIM, CAN YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, ACTUALLY IT'S SOME POINT DONE BY, BUT MIND EVERYBODY THAT POINT IN TIME NOW IS BASICALLY SET UP LIKE THEY SET UP THE PROCEDURE AND KEEP FOLLOW IT TO CERTAIN DEGREE.
SO THEY HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
THEY HAVE SOME THINGS THAT THEY SAY.