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ALONG WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONER, WE'D LIKE TO THANK MR. TOON FOR HIS SERVICE.UH, HE WAS ALWAYS, UH, UH, UH, A GREAT ADDITION TO HIS COMMISSION, AND HE IS A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE SHORE.
HE'S ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, SO THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, HE PUTS A LOT OF TIME IN.
AND, UH, HE HAD A, YOU KNOW, KID AND HE WAS EXPANDING HIS FAMILY.
SO, UH, I THINK FORMALLY WE JUST WANT TO THANK HIM AND HE'S NOT HERE, BUT WE WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION FUND WAS PRESENT.
UM, MOVING ON THE, A BRIEF CHAIR'S REPORT, UM, RELATIVE REALLY TO ONE ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION FOR HE AND CHRIS.
UH, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, UH, THE CORE REASONS WHY WE'RE DOING THAT, AND WE'RE ASKING TO DO THAT RATHER, UH, AND PUSHING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, AND TO REMIND, UH, FOLKS THAT THIS IS NOT A TAX.
UH, THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL HINDRANCE ON RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, FINANCIALLY.
UH, THIS IS A FEE INCREASE TO METERS.
UH, WE ARE IN LINE WITH, UH, OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THE, THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING IT IS TO, UH, CONTINUE WITH, UH, THE CLEAN STREETS PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE DAILY CLEANING, UH, STEAM AND, UH, SECURITY LIGHTING, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF PARKING LOTS.
UH, ALL THE THINGS THAT THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, UH, REALLY, REALLY WANT TO SEE IMPROVE.
UM, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS ON ANY SERVICES AND BE UNFORTUNATE.
THE REALITY IS THAT, UH, ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR LIVES, UH, THESE SERVICES ARE LABOR BASED, UH, GO UP, AND WE HAVE TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS, UH, WITHOUT, UH, HURTING PEOPLE TOO MUCH TO, UH, INCREASE THE REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE, UH, THESE CRITICAL SERVICES FOR THIS FAVORABLE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION, WITHOUT GOING BACKWARDS AND WITHOUT DISTURB POWER.
WE TRY TO BE AS, UH, CONSCIOUS OF WHAT RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, STAKEHOLDERS AND LEADERS, UH, PARTNER TWO LOOKING MORE.
AND I THINK THIS IS THE COMPROMISE, UH, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR AS WE FORWARD FOR THAT.
SO THAT IS THE EXTENT OF MY CHAIR'S REPORT THIS MORNING FOR TWI.
UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED? ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO THROW OUT THERE FOR YI? OKAY.
UH, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, ITEM ONE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE UNITS, YOUR BUSINESS PARKING, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA, ADVISORY COMMISSION.
MEETING IT ON THURSDAY OF MAY 15TH, 2025.
AND SECOND, UH, ANY COMMENT ON THAT? STAFF? DO YOU HAVE ANY MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? A I, UH, ITEM TWO, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ON LONG BEACH PUBLIC WORKS FINANCIAL REPORT, DISCUSSING REVENUES DURING THE PERIOD ENDING IN MAY 31, 25 WITH STAFF MOTION SEVEN.
OKAY, NOW WE BEEN STAFF MOVED EVERYONE.
CHAIRMAN, PAGE 11, THE TITLE DOCUMENT STEPPED ON MY SHORT, EITHER UPON SEVEN.
GOT IN TERMS OF REVENUE, REVENUE WAS UP 12% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
THIS TIME WHILE YEAR TO DATE REVENUE WAS ALSO UP 12% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING OUR FUND BALANCE AT $514,716 AND 65 CENTS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE EXPENSES ON THIS IS MERELY TO BE A SNAPSHOT OF THE REVENUES, THE EXPENSES HIT AT VARIOUS, VARIOUS TIMES OF THE MONTH.
SO OUR, OUR EXPENSES BACK IN DON'T ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE EXPENSIVE BACK TO HOME THE NEXT MONTH.
FOR EXAMPLE, MAY INVOICE DATES DON'T COME IN UNTIL JUNE.
THAT KIND SCENARIO, JUST ONE REITERATE THAT, THAT THESE ARE FAIRLY USUALLY FOR, BUT OUR REVENUES ARE WELL HUNDRED 12,000 1 47 UP FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR, AND
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OUR YEAR TO DATE, ALSO AFTER BUSINESS TIME LAST YEAR.UH, WOULD YOU REMIND, UH, MR.
SO WE'VE ALREADY MADE OUR BOND PAYMENT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND OUR NEXT ONE IS GONNA BE OCTOBER 1ST.
SO STARTING OCTOBER 1ST ONE, MAKE BACK PAYMENT, AND PLEASE REMIND COMM OF THAT AMOUNT, THE AMOUNT FOR THE BOND UNIT IS $2,200,000.
GIVE THE PAID DEBT SERVICE THAT ASSOCIATED COMMUNITY FACILITIES TO
QUESTIONS ON ANY QUESTION? I'M GOOD.
THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE ON PAGE 12, WHERE'S THE BELMONT FLOOR PARKING BUSINESS AREA ADVISORY MISSION FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.
AND THAT IS THE SAME FROM LAST MONTH.
THAT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, WE'RE ESTIMATED TO BE AT 1.3 MILLION IN REVENUE WITH 1.4 MILLION IN EXPENSES, MAKING OUR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE TO HIT ABOUT 244,000.
AND WE WOULD BE, WE'D BE A LOSS OF ABOUT 190,000.
DOES THIS STATEMENT ACCOUNT AN ANNUAL EXPENSE FOR CONSERVATION OR WE DOWN TO THE MONTHLY EXPENSE ON THIS REPORT? IS IT DOWN? THIS IS THE YEARLY EXPENSE FOR CONTRADICTION BY CASE, AND THAT IS, WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE.
THAT CHANGES IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
IT STILL TO BE DETERMINED YES.
WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE UPDATED WHEN WE KNOW THE FULL, THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE FACTORING IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 448,000 FOR THE YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PAGE? COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE.
SO THE PRESSURE WASHING WILL BE, CONTINUE TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE CLEANING SERVICES THAT FOR THE NEW CLEANING FOR THE CITIZENS, THE NEW CLEANINGS FOR THE NEW CLEANING SERVICE, PRESSURE WASHING WILL BE INCLUDED.
SO IT WILL BE ONE MONTH, ONE DONE.
SO PRESSURE WASHING WILL GO AWAY STARTING NEXT FISCAL, UH, NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THERE'LL BE A ZERO LINE ITEM ON THAT.
BUT THAT WOULD, UH, BE ED IN THE CLEANING SERVICES FILE.
IT WAS INCORPORATED IN SCOPE WORK.
SO WITH THIS CLEANING SERVICES, THE, THE FULL 48, THAT DOES NOT HAVE PRESSURE WASHING IN IT, RIGHT? YES, YES.
THE CLEANING SERVICES DOES NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF PRESSURE WASHING IN IT.
SO THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR? YES.
THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR, CLEANING SERVICES AND PRESSURE WASHING ARE SEPARATE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, UM, WILL BE COMBINED THAT.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL GOOD? OKAY.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE? THIRD, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE TO SECOND COMMENT, UM, ADMISSION TO RECEIVE THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
ALL IN FAVOR? WAIT, CAN WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? THANK YOU.
DID WITNESS MISS PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M SORRY.
A, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON I MCKINNEY.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, ITEM THREE RECOMMENDATIONS.
RECEIVE AND FILE ALONG BEING STRENGTH EMPLOYEE
FOR THE BSBA BOARDING MINORS FOR MAY, WE'VE HAD 100, WE HAD 5,100 BOARDINGS VERSUS LAST YEAR WE HAD 4,449.
AND IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, WE HAD 159 RIDER UP FROM LA THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
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HAD 148.ANYTHING STAND OUT, UH, THE STAFF ON THIS REPORT? NOTHING'S, NOTHING'S DROPPING ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS NOT ANSWERED FROM YOUR PREVIOUS, WHICH IS GREAT.
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS GIVE EVERYONE.
SO I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FROM TIME TO TIME, REMIND COMMISSIONERS AND PEOPLE INTENDS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM FOR THIS PROGRAM.
UH, THIS IS A, UH, PUBLIC PROGRAM.
UH, RYAN, THIS MONEY CAME TO THE, UH, THE CITY HOW MANY YEARS AGO? YEAR MARKET TOWARD, UH, CONVEYANCE PROGRAM.
I WANT SAY ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT.
AND IT REMAINS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
IT REMAINS FOR, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT ENDS AT THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
HOWEVER, WE'RE LOOKING INTO EXTEND AND ANNUAL SPEND UP TO $112,000 FOR, FOR THIS PURPOSE.
UH, THE ONLY THING I'VE NEVER ASKED IS DOES THIS PROGRAM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY OR JUST THAT I NEED TO LOOK INTO? I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK I ONLY, I'M ONLY AWARE IT HAPPENED FOR SURE.
BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF, IF WE COULD LEARN IF IT DOES RETURN IN ORDER TO TALK TO THE CITY.
I THINK WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT JUST AS COMPARISON, UH, UH, LETS SAY AS WE MOVE TOWARDS, UH, OLYMPICS AND THE MAYORS AGENDA OF, AND THE, AND THE SUPERVISOR MEETING AGENDA, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UH, THIS JUST HOW, BUT IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR SO LONG.
UM, AND THEN NEXT PAGE IS, UH, VOTING CLASS, UH, FROM MAY.
UM, AND AGAIN, I'M SHOOT YOU LOOKING FORWARD STANDOUT
ANY RESIDENT COMMISSIONERS GOING FORWARD AND THEN MORNING BY DAY? ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR? NOPE.
WE HAVE A GO TO, WE HAVE A SECOND.
WE'D LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BUS PASS PROGRAM.
UH, BRIAN COCHRAN SHORE, UH, THE CHAIR'S QUESTION ABOUT COMPARATIVES TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND SOME APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISONS TO WHETHER THIS IS APP, BUT ELSEWHERE IN THE PROGRAM'S IMPLEMENTED.
REMINDS ME AGAIN THAT THIS IS AT LEAST MY THIRD QUERY REGARDING THE IDEA OF GETTING SOME DATA AROUND WHAT THE BUSINESS POPULATION LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF THE EMPLOYEE USAGE.
UH, I KNOW I'VE ASKED AT LEAST THREE TIMES, AND I KNOW OTHERS HAVE CONTINUED TO ASK FOR THAT.
UH, WE KNOW THE DATA MUST BE ACTIVE BUSINESSES MUST COMPEL SOME SENSE OF HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE AND WHAT PROPORTION OF THEM ARE USING THE PROGRAM.
THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE, UH, EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF ILLUSTRATING THE CONCEPT HERE.
UH, SINCE I SEE THAT BASICALLY A CURRENT TREND, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT GONNA MATCH NEW BD SLIGHTLY UNDER WHAT 2024 IS TOTAL WAS FOR, FOR RIDERSHIP.
BUT COMPARING AND SAYING IT'S BETTER THAN LAST YEAR IS ALMOST MEANINGLESS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A BASELINE TO COMPARE IT TO.
SO AGAIN, I WANT TO ILLUSTRATE THAT DATA FOR THE PUBLIC DATA, FOR THE COMMISSION DATA, FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE CON CONTEXT OF THINGS IS ESSENTIAL.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR, UH, PROCEED THIS REPORT.
UH, I HAVE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE STATUS UPDATES ON CONSERVATION BOARD RIDGE'S, WORK IN
AND ARE YOU GUYS READY? MOTION BE HEARING.
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GOOD MORNING.UH, YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE CONTINUE DOING OUR SERVICES, CONTINUE TO, UM, MAINTAIN MEETINGS, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR USUAL SERVICES AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH BRIAN, AND WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE OUR SERVICES, UH, UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT WILL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THE, FOR THE NEW BEDROOM.
SO WE'RE STILL HERE, WE'RE STILL ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP OUT IN WHATEVER CAPACITY THAT WE NEED.
IS THE COLLABORATION OF OUR SERVICES CONTINUING UNTIL THE NEW VENDOR, UH, IS THAT, THAT'S ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS OR THAT'S, IS CONSERVATION COURT DOING THE TOTAL THE WORK LIKE YOU'VE ALWAYS DID? WELL, IT IS, IT IS.
WHATEVER SERVICES WE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING SERVICES WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, WE HAVE A, UH, RECOGNITION FOR, UH, THE GROUP.
UH, WHAT THAT DATE? COULD WE DO THAT AT THE LAST GENERAL MEETING OF THE BSBA? WE HAD, UH, ATION FOR STAFF AND FOR RECOGNITION AND BREAKFAST AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND IT WAS, YOU GUYS WERE QUITE WELL ATTENDED AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD TIME AND, UM, JUST APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IT, BUT IT'S NOT
BUT WE ARE, UH, ANY ITEMS OF NOTE FOR THE LAST MONTH THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF? UM, OTHER THAN A FEW INSTANCES OF GRAFFITI ON SOME OF THE BIG BELLIES, UH, WE JUST RECENTLY FULFILLED A REQUEST OF, UM, SOME, A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRASH BEHIND THE, THE, UM, NORTH ALLEY WHERE THE OLD, WHERE THE BANANA REPUBLIC USED TO BE AT.
IT WAS LIKE A LARGE, LARGE SET OF, UM, DUMP THE ITEMS THAT WE PICKED UP.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FROM CONSERVATION BOARD OBSERVATIONS? WELL, THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH OUR WORK SO MUCH.
I THINK THE RESULTS SPEAK OF ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, WE WANNA THANK YOU KNOW YOU GUYS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, HAVING US, YOU OUR CORE MEMBERS, BE A PART OF, OF, OF THAT LITTLE CEREMONY.
I THINK IT WAS GREAT, UM, IF WE COULD GET ANOTHER
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS VALUE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BELMONT SHORE.
THAT WE, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU.
WHAT IS THE NEXT GENERAL MEETING? THE DATE? I WAS JUST KIDDING.
WE'RE WORKING UP TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO WE GOT COVERED, WHAT IS THAT DATE? JULY 29TH.
UH, IS ANOTHER, UH, MORNING MEETING.
AND, UH, PLEASE LET YOUR STAFF KNOW NOW THAT IT'S IN THE MORNING, IT'S MORNING MEETING BEFORE THEY CAN CERTAINLY COME BY, UH, AND HAVE BREAKFAST AT THAT MEETING AND WE EXPECT TO SEE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP.
SO AGAIN, IF, IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COMES UP, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, SO.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PRESENTATION, PUBLIC CONDUCT ON
AGAIN, THINK THE CONSERVATION CORE TEAM OR THAT THEY'VE DONE OFTEN UNHERALDED AND OFTEN UNDERAPPRECIATED BY DIFFERENT ENTITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THE TRANSITION TO WHATEVER NEW SERVICE WILL BE THERE WILL BE JUST TRANSITION TO A SERVICE RATHER THAN AN ENTITY THAT HAD COMMUNITY TIES AND MEANING LIKE YOU HAVE HAD FOR US.
I WOULD ALSO ASK IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD PUT A BOW ON THE SERVICE AND SORT OF GIVE THIS BODY AND THIS PUBLIC SOME SENSE OF WHAT YOUR WORK HAS BEEN AND THINGS THAT MAY OVERLOOKED THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO PASS ALONG AND THINGS THAT ARE TROUBLE SPOTS OR IDEAS ABOUT WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER.
YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AS A GUIDELINES FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE TASK, WE, WHAT WE HAVE OBSERVED AND WHAT THE OBSTACLES I SAY TO.
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SO WE KIND OF HAVE LIKE A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER.UM, BUT WE CAN KIND OF LIKE BOOT IT UP FOR THE FIT, THE TIP, WHAT WE DID WITH RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY HELP OUT THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU WANNA RESPOND AFTER YEAH, LET HIM FINISH HIS COMMENTS.
UH, HAVING CONTINUITY AND EXPLANATIONS AND THINGS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING FROM THE TRANSITION TEAM TO THE NEW TEAMS IS ALWAYS USEFUL AND HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HOPE THAT'S A SEAMLESS ONE, BUT WE KNOW THAT WOULD LIKE HURDLES AND EFFORTS ALONG THE WAY.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR? SHALL SEAT YOUR REPORT? OKAY.
UH, ITEM FILED RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE OF DISCUSSION TO INCREASE THE PARKING METER RATE, UH, TO $3 PER HOUR.
UH, AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, TO INCREASE A TIME AT A METER TO THREE HOURS, UH, RAINING UP FROM THREE HOURS, UM, REMINDING, UH, COMMISSION THE TIME CHANGE ON METER.
THE ONLY I CONSIDERED AND NATURALLY RATIFIED WAS RAIN WALL METERS, METERS IN LOTS WERE ON THE WALLS.
UH, WERE PREVIOUSLY EIGHT OUT, AND IT WAS BROUGHT DOWN TO MATCH THE BALANCE OF METERS, UH, IN THE CORE DOWN TO TWO OUT.
AND SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS NOT NOVEL, BUT IT IS, UH, UH, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS IN QUITE A FEW YEARS.
UH, THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS IS TO, UH, GIVE VISITORS MORE TIME AT, UH, A SALON OR, UH, A MEETING OR, UH, RUNNING ERRANDS OR HAVING A MEAL.
UM, YOU CAN'T JUST, UH, BUSINESS OPERATORS AND RESIDENTS.
AND THIS WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT BROUGHT UP, UH, SO THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION HERE.
$3 AN HOUR, WHICH IS A $1 INCREASE AND ONE HOUR INCREASE ON, UH, TIME AT THE LEADER.
SO LET'S, UH, LET'S DISCUSS, START WITH, UH, WE HERE, UM, WE NEED A MOTION, PLEASE.
UM, MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE A LITTLE MORE GENERAL THAN THE SPECIFIC ITEMS. SO IT SEEMS TO BE THE ITEM THAT IS GETTING THOSE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
AND MY ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE OVERALL BUDGET AND TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SHORTCOMINGS, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS INCREASE IS ONE WAY TO, UH, FIX THAT.
UM, AND IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION TO THE CITY IS SOME OF OUR LARGE EXPENSES THAT WE ARE, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR.
I'M WONDERING ACROSS THE BOARD WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER BEACH CITIES, IF IT'S AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.
YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE SECURITY AND THE CLEANING SERVICES AND A LOT OF BIG TICKET ITEMS, AND I'M WONDERING,
MAINLY TO TRY TO, UH, OFFSET SOME OF THE ISSUES THE CITY ITSELF IS FACING.
UM, AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE DISCUSSION KEEPS LOOKING AT SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE DOING AN APPLE TO APPLE'S COMPARISON WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES AS A WHOLE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK IN MY OPINION, THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE BROAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE SECURITY, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY AM
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PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT.I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE CITY ITSELF ISN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE WHAT WE, WHEN I SAY WE, I'M TALKING LIKE BUSINESSES DOWN HERE NEED THE NUMBER OF TIMES MY BUSINESSES FALL FOR HELP, UM, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS IS A LOT.
AND A LOT OF THOSE TIMES, I THINK NORMALLY HE WOULD CALL THE CITY AND CALL THE POLICE.
UM, SO I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IS IT AN APPLES, APPLES COMPARISON AS FAR AS WHAT OTHER ENTITIES LIKE US AND OTHER STATE YOU DEAL WITH? THAT'S VERY, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
UM, IT REALLY ISN'T AN APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE BELMONT SHORE IS SUCH A UNIQUE AREA.
UM, BELMONT SHORE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARKING METER FUND IS FUNDED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS AREA WITHIN BELMONT SHORE.
THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE IN THE OTHER DISTRICTS, OTHER CITIES, OTHER BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS EVEN.
SO WHAT THIS REALLY DOES IS IT GIVES, WHAT'S REALLY GREAT ABOUT HAVING IT THIS WAY FOR, FOR BELMONT SHORE IS IT GIVES BELMONT SHORE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SIT AND, YOU KNOW, BE SPECIFIC ON WHAT THEY NEED.
IF IT WEREN'T THIS WAY, THE REVENUE MAY GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IN GENERALLY THE ENTIRE CITY WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THIS.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE IN THE CAPACITY OF THE ENTIRE CITY.
SO IT WOULD BE GETTING SECURITY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF LONG BEACH, WHICH IS ANY, UM, WHICH ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS FEASIBLE FOR RIGHT, FOR, FOR US.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN SUCH A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT APPLES TO APPLES WITH EVERYONE.
WE'RE KIND OF IN A UNIQUE SPACE WHERE WE GET TO USE THIS REVENUE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS AREA.
AND IT WOULD BE REALLY, I CAN SEE IT BEING REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, BECAUSE MORE CHANCE THAN NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE IT.
THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY PROBABLY DO NOT HAVE SECURITY OR KIND OF THE CLEANING SERVICES PROBABLY DONE BY, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE CITY AS A WHOLE OR ONE OF THEIR, ONE OF THEIR SUBS THAT THEY HAVE ON, UH, ON CALL.
BUT THIS REALLY DOES GIVE US AN IDEA OF, OF, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS US IN TERMS OF SPEED, IN TERMS OF GETTING THINGS DONE QUICKER THAN IT USUALLY WOULD IF WE HAD THE ENTIRE CITY TO OR DISCUSS VIEWS.
UM, AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH TO EVERYONE WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE MEETINGS SPECIFICALLY FOR TOPICS LIKE THIS.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WE CAN'T DO APPLES TO APPLES JUST BECAUSE WE'RE IN SUCH A UNIQUE SCENARIO.
HOWEVER, UM, I CAN RESEARCH THAT AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY HANDLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FROM, SIR.
YES, THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, I BELIEVE 19 71, 50 YEARS AGO, SPECIFICALLY TO SEED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, UH, WITH FUNDS TO DO JUST
THAT'S WHAT NEEDED TO BAIL AND SEGREGATE THAT, THAT MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUESTS FOR THESE SERVICES WASN'T A BURDEN ON THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
AND OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE CITY WOULDN'T SAY, OH, DOC, THEY'RE PULLING FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THAT.
SO IT WAS CREATED SPECIFICALLY TO GENERATE DIRECTION OF VALUE METERS.
USE IT FOR THESE PURPOSES BY CHARTER IS VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM.
LATER WHEN BSBA WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, TO COLLECT DUES FROM MEMBERS, THAT MONEY SIMILARLY WAS EARMARKED JUST FOR PROMOTIONS, MARKETING, UH, ASSISTING BUSINESSES IN, IN THEIR PURSUIT.
SO THE TWO ARE FROM COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
BUT WITHOUT THE, THE ORDINANCE MONEY, THIS SANITY, WE WOULD RELY ON GENERAL FUND FOR THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE AND YOUR IMAGINATION CAN RUN.
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THAT'S THE, THE HISTORICAL LOOK OF WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM AND WHY IT'S HERE AND, AND WHY IT'S REALLY, I, I USE THE WORD SACROSANCT.I, I SUPPOSE IT COULD CHANGE, BUT IT'S, I THINK BECAUSE OF IT'S IMPORTANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTION THAT I, OKAY.
UM, UM, YEAH, NO, I JUST, I HAD A QUESTION, UM, ON THE, THE SECOND PAGE OF THIS
UM, AND SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID 10:00 AM TO 8:00 PM OR 10:00 AM TO 9:00 PM IT LOOKED LIKE WE MIGHT BE EXTENDING THE HOURS THAT'S, YEAH.
I BROUGHT, I I THINK IN THE LAST MEETING THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AND SO I PRESENT, UH, INCLUDED THIS IN THE MEETING FOR CONTEXT.
WE HAD CURRENTLY, UM, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED A ONE HOUR EXTENSION TO EITHER 8:00 PM OR 9:00 PM I WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK UP JUST IN CASE ANYONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT WE DID LAST TIME.
AND WHAT THIS SHOWED LAST TIME WAS THAT IF WE WERE TO EXTEND OUR HOURLY REBATE FROM 10:00 AM TO EIGHT TO 8:00 PM WE WOULD GENERATE ROUGH BETWEEN 135 AND $271,000 EXTRA, WHICH THAT'S THE RANGE THAT WE WOULD, AND THEN WHEN TWO HOURS EXTENDED TO 9:00 PM WE WOULD RANGE FROM 271 TO 543,000.
THAT'S JUST FOR CONTEXT OF, UH, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
'CAUSE I KNEW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE MAIN MEETING.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE BACKUP TO SHOW IT PREVIOUS.
WE HAD DISCUSSED THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS GOING BACK FOUR, FIVE MONTHS.
THE NOTION OF IN ORDER TO RAISE THE REVENUE, WHAT IS THE MOST, UH, THE CLEANEST, THE MOST EXPEDITIOUS, THE LESS DISRUPTIVE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT.
AND OF ALL THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT.
AND THERE ARE SUB, THERE'S PERMANENT PARKING, THERE'S 10 HOURS
UH, WE DID, UH, A COMMUNITY SURVEY ON, AND WE GOT QUITE A LOT OF RESPONSE ON
UH, WE HAD, UH, SOME PUSHBACK ON EXTENDING HOURS TO NINE AND 10:00 PM AND, UH, WHY THAT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE.
SO WE SIMULATED THAT, UH, PERMISSION AMONGST OURSELVES.
BUT WE DID ASK, IN THE EVENT WE DID WHAT THE REVENUE GENERATION, THAT'S WHAT THIS DATA IS SUPPORTING.
UH, THOSE TOOLS ARE CERTAINLY AVAILABLE IN FUTURE RAISING.
THE METER RATE SEEMS TO BE BASED ON LOCALLY DISCUSS HERE OVER THE LAST MONTHS, UM, THE MOST EXPEDITIOUS, THE PATH LEAST RESISTANCE, UH, IS NOT FINANCIALLY
UH, DOESN'T CONSTRUCT, UH, PARKING TIMES OR STREET SWEEPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, SO AGAIN, I'M GOING AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW,
SO THE $1, UH, SEEMS TO, MIGHT GET THE REQUEST FOR THE NEW BUILDER.
THEY ASK FOR ADDITIONAL SECURITY, WHICH IS WHAT BUSINESSES ARE ASKING FOR.
UH, CLEANER STREETS, CLEANER SIDEWALKS, WHICH HAS A COST TO IT.
THE LANDSCAPING, UH, WHICH WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING TODAY,
UH, THE, UH, EVER PRESENT GATEWAY SIGN PROJECT, WHICH THE COMMUNITY, UH, LARGELY WANTS, AND WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF THE SURVEY AS WELL, UM, THAT HAS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND SHOULD BE COVERED WITH THIS PROJECT
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BASED ON PROJECTIONS.SO THE HOPE IS THAT THAT WITHOUT GOING BACK AND MAKING A DIAMOND SO IT WORK, UH, OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, UM, BECAUSE THESE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE, ARE WITH MULTIYEAR, WE CAN FORECAST, HOPEFULLY THE DOLLAR COVERS THAT, AND IF THERE'S A SURPLUS, UH, HEAD AND PERMIT, UH, WE CAN USE THAT FOR, UH, OTHER QUALIFIED PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT BUSINESSES
SO THAT'S THAT I DIDN'T WANNA DIRECT YOU, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL.
BIG THING ABOUT IT IS THAT, UM, THAT THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
AND I WANTED TO, I, I NEED TO, THAT THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME THAT RATES WILL GO UP.
AND THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME THAT WE WILL, UH, DISCUSS METER, UH, OR UH, HOUR EXPANSIONS BECAUSE I KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT, UH, WHEN CONTRACTS ARE REMOVED, THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP AND, UH, THE HOURLY WAGES FOR SECURITY GO UP AND LANDSCAPING COST IS GONNA GO UP, AND ANY OF THE MYRIAD OF OTHER THINGS ARE GOING BE HIT CABLE.
AND WHOEVER THOSE COMMISSIONERS ARE AT THAT POINT TASK, GEEZ, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THIS? AND THIS IS HOW WE PAY FOR THIS.
UH, THIS IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION OF INFLATION AND, UM, JUST THE WAY IT IS.
WELL, THAT'S, I, I WONDER THAT TO CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ISSUES BEFORE.
I WAS LOADING AT HIM ON SUNDAY, HIS FINES, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, STOP, SORRY.
OH, YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT'S NOT PROBLEM FOR ANYBODY TEACH, TEACH THEATER.
UM, SO, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU, THE COMMENTS THAT ARE RELEVANT, UM, TO THIS, UM, WE, WE ARE STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE STILL THE CONVERSATION AND IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO MAKE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT CAN, BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY REPEAT, UM, THE ARGUMENTS THAT THEY HAD MADE PREVIOUSLY ABOUT, UH, UH, THE INCREASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, UM, ABOUT HOURS, ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT SOMETHING THIS MIGHT CAUSE.
SO, AND AGAIN, UM, AS AS YOU SAID, UM, THERE STILL WILL BE TIME FOR, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ON, ON THIS EXACT MEETING.
AND THERE'S NO NEED TO REPEAT.
IF OUR RECOMMENDATION DO TODAY OR RECOMMENDATION GOES THROUGH NEXT MONTH, UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, ANYBODY CAN, AND IT SHOULD MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THIS COMES, UH, BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THIS COMMISSION COMMEND RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THIS IS NOT MEAN THAT IT READ, UH, THROUGH THIS, THAT MS TABLE, UH, THAT THE RATES GONNA GO UP.
UH, IT GOES
UM, SO, UH, APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
WELL, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BE THE PA BLOCK THAT'S BEEN SET, BUT, AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, EVERYBODY KNOWS PRETTY MUCH, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT A $500,000 BILL FOR THE CLEANING CREW THAT'S GOING TO COME IN, NOT OF OUR MAKING INTO CIRCUMSTANCE.
UH, PROBABLY QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR SECURITY, WHICH WE ALL KNOW WE WANT AND NEED.
AND THESE TIMES, UM, ALSO GETS BUILT IN TO OUR BUDGET, AND WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT A LOT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT WE ALSO PAY TO KEEP THE METERS GOING WHEN THEY DON'T WORK OR THEY NEED TO BE UPDATED.
THAT STILL COMES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF RAISING AT THE DOLLAR BECAUSE WE HAVE
THEY'RE GOING TO BE COST, LIKE, WE JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THAT'S THE NEW NORMAL.
WELL, AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, WE HAVE HAD OUR LISTENING TOURS AND WE HAVE BEEN HEARING
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FROM PUBLIC, FROM THE BUSINESSES.AND THIS, I FEEL IS THE LEAST CAPITAL OF ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF ON THE RESIDENTS.
WOULD THE STANDARD HOURS, FOR EXAMPLE, EARLY OR LATE, UM, ADDING A THIRD HOUR IS GOOD BECAUSE IT DOES ADD TO THE DON PEOPLE CAN HAVE ONE SENTENCE WITHOUT HAVING TO, BECAUSE GO RUN INTO THE MEETING.
SO HAVING THREE HOURS IS GOOD.
UM, $1 REALLY JUST HELPS US COVER COSTS AS, AS THE CHAIR OBJECT.
SO, UH, THAT I THINK OVERALL, WE, WE HAVE TO, WE CAN'T OPERATE IN A DEFICIT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, WE FORGET TO MENTION, THE GOOD THINGS IS THE 15 MINUTE GRACE PERIOD.
I MEAN, THAT SAVES ME SO MANY, I TIMES MY MATURE RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER.
AND TO BE ABLE TO JUST RUN IN AND GET WHAT I NEED QUICKLY, IT HA IT, IT IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, PLUS.
AND, UM, AND SO WE TRY TO DO GOOD THINGS WHEN WE CAN, UM, TO MAKE IT EASY FOR RESIDENTS.
SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD, AND I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION NOW NOT A WHOLE YEAR YET, WHAT IS KIND OF ALWAYS BUBBLES UP IS SECURITY IS A PRIORITY.
THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
SO THEN WE HEAR FROM BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH SOME OF THESE.
THAT COMES UP A LOT IN, WE ALL FEEL IT SHOULD BE GOOD, WE WANT IT BETTER.
EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS STRIVING FOR BETTER.
SO IF WE THINK ABOUT THIS AND IT'S $1, AND WE'RE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO COVER COST.
I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO STATIC.
IF WE STAY STATIC, WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.
AND WITH SAFETY, MORE IS BETTER, NOT LESS.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT FROM A RESPONSIVE, JUST LOOKING, BEING RESPONSIBLE ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE AREN'T AS OBVIOUS.
WE WOULD LOVE TO BE WITH SECURITY, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM SOME OF THE OBSERVATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE.
BUT WHAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT? YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS THAT THE ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVE, IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY GOOD.
AND IF, AND MAYBE WHAT THE, THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH COVERAGE, WHICH COSTS MORE.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE GET STUCK, IS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A BUDGET THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL HERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, I I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR BECAUSE I SAW SOME PROMISE WHERE WAS TALKING ABOUT CUT BUDGET, CUT BUDGET.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RECOMMENDER, WE'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND A LOT OF EXPENSES IN HERE.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY CUT, CUT, CUT.
BECAUSE IF WE CUT, WE'RE CUTTING SERVICES, AND THEN THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE DON'T LIKE NOW ARE GOING TO BE WORSE.
AND THAT, THAT, I MEAN, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE, BUT BECAUSE THINGS COST MORE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANNA SAY AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD PREFER.
BUT IT IS JUST THE TRUE THAT THINGS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO IN LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SAY BEAUTIFICATION, WE WANT THE STREET CLEAN.
WE DON'T WANNA STEP IN STUFF OR SEE THINGS THAT AREN'T, YOU KNOW, ATTRACTIVE ON THE STREETS.
WE WANT OUR TRASH, YOU KNOW, TAKEN OUT.
AND WE LOVE THE CONSERVATION COURT.
THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THIS.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR MISSION AND, AND THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THEY DO.
WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO STAY ON UNTIL WE COULD GET A NEW ROOF IN PLACE.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER.
WE LOVE FOR THEM TO STAY, BUT EVEN IF THEY STAYED, THEY WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE PARITY IN TERMS OF COST REGARDLESS, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT FOR THE, THE PRICE THAT THEY'RE DOING IT NOW.
SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH THAT, THAT IS A FEEL COST, AND WE HAVE TO COVER IT SOMEHOW.
UM, AND WITH BEAUTIFICATION TO MAKE THE STREET EVEN BETTER, TO MAKE THE LANDSCAPING BETTER, SIDEWALKS, EVERYTHING SO THAT WE CAN BE PROUD.
AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WALK DOWN THE STREET, WHEN WE BRING FRIENDS OR VISITORS, WE WANNA BE PROUD OF SECOND STREET.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY, I USED TO GO TO SECOND STREET AND IT WAS REALLY NICE AND NOW IT DOESN'T LOOK SO GREAT.
WE WANTED PEOPLE TO SAY, WOW, LOOK AT SECOND STREET.
WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT FUNDING.
AND WE HAVE VERY LIMITED GUARDRAILS OF HOW WE GET THAT FUNDING.
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THAT'S REALLY THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MONEY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.WE'VE GOTTA NOT HAVE INCREASED EXPENSES TO HAVE TO, TO HAVE GO TO THAT.
WE'D ALL BE ABLE TO HAVE DOLLARS TO DO THE THINGS WE WANT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN TREAD WATER.
SO WE WANT THE TRASH AND WE WANT NEW BINS WHEN, YOU KNOW, REPLACE, WE WANT GRAFFITI REMOVED, WE WANT TREES CARED FOR, ALL THOSE THINGS COST.
AND, UM, THE METER INCOME IS THE ONLY INCOME WE GET.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON, IS THAT I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.
HOW WE GET THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE NOW.
AND FOR THE, THE CURRENT RULING, IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS THE, THE LEAST IMPACT IN, IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN COVER US.
UH, I ADD ONE THING TO WHAT YOU SAID.
UH, WE HAVE ONLY ONE ADDITIONAL SOURCE OF, UH, FUNDING INTO THIS BODY, AND THAT'S THE GRANTS FOR BUS MET PROGRAM.
UH, AND BUS MET PROGRAM IS
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
UH, WE HEARD COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, MY FRAME, SORT OF A PREFACE TO THE COMMENTS HERE.
ONE IS THAT WHEN I'M MAKING DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY FINANCIAL ONES, SO SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF MONEY INVOLVED, I LIKE THAT DATA AND COMPARATIVE THINGS TO MAKE DECISIONS.
AND IF I'M BUYING A NEW CAR, I'M NOT JUST LOOKING AT ONE MODEL, SHOPPING ONLINE, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PLACES, ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE FOR THAT.
AND WHAT I DON'T SEE HERE, AND THIS IS CREATING AND UNFORTUNATE FOR COMMUNITIES THAT WE SEE, ESSENTIALLY A PAGE AND A HALF OF DATA.
THAT'S ALL JUST PROJECTIONS OF THINGS THAT ARE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THE MONEY ISN'T MATTER.
BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING INTO THE EQUATION.
IT DOESN'T LOOK AT ANYTHING OTHER THAN A $1 PER HOUR INCREASE WITH A THREE HOUR TOTAL TIME.
AND I DON'T SEE THE WORK, I DON'T SEE IT BEING IN THE PROCESS HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S THE CASE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT ACTIVE DEBATE.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW I'M MISSING ERIC TO WHO WOULD ALWAYS SIT HERE AND BE FRUSTRATED BY A PROCESS TO TRY TO FORWARD SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS THAT WOULD OPEN UP DISCUSSION THAT I THINK IS A GAP THAT WE'RE FEELING RIGHT NOW TODAY.
UM, THE OTHER FRAMING I WANT TO PUT ON THIS IS THAT BELMONT SHORE AN ECOSYSTEM.
IT'S A DELICATE ECOSYSTEM IN WHICH ALL THE THINGS ARE INTRICATELY ENTWINED AND THE RIPPLE EFFECTS OF ONE THING HERE PLAY OUT HERE.
AND WHAT I SEE UNFORTUNATELY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR STATED UP FRONT THAT NONE OF THIS IS A BURDEN TO OTHER BUSINESSES OR TO THE COMMUNITY, TO, TO RESIDENTS.
AND THAT'S IN FACT NOT THE CASE.
YOU'VE ESSENTIALLY DELIBERATELY ISOLATED THOSE FROM CONSEQUENCES OF AN ENACT HERE.
AS WE KNOW, EVERY TIME THERE'S A PARKING NEAR CHANGE ON SECOND STREET AIRPORT,
THEY'RE STAYING THERE FOR AS LONG AS THEY HAVE TO.
THAT MEANS THAT ONE PERSON WHO'S COMING TO DINNER AT EIGHT O'CLOCK ISN'T GONNA GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PARK THERE.
SO THAT RIPPLE EFFECT IS CONSEQUENTIAL IMMEDIATELY.
WHAT I DON'T SEE IS ANY SENSE THAT THE CON, THE FULL FOLLOW THROUGH OF THE COSTS ARE BUILT INTO THIS.
THEY HAVE SIGNS SAYING WHAT THE HOURS ARE AND WHAT THE RATES, UH, WHAT THE TIME LIMITS ARE TO CHANGE THOSE OUT.
AND THERE'S PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF THOSE ACROSS SECOND STREET.
IS THAT INCURRED BY THIS GROUP? AND THOSE FUNDS COMING FROM THE LOCAL THING JUST TO MAKE THE CHANGE IN THE SIGNAGE TO PRINT NEW ONE SALE WILL BE THREE HOURS TO TWO HOURS.
THAT'S REALLY A LEGAL REQUIREMENT FROM THAT.
BUT I DON'T SEE THAT BUILT IN THE EQUATION HERE.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY SENSE THAT FRUSTRATINGLY THE, THE COMMISSION SEEMS TO JUST WANNA PROCEED WITH ONE OPTION AND ONE OPTION ONLY.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD FIND OUT THAT THE SECURITY SERVICES SHOULD BE, THE COST OF THOSE SHOULD BE INCURRED BY THOSE MOST RESPONSIBLE BAR, WHICH IS THE BARS AND RESTAURANTS WHO ARE OPEN PASSES CERTAIN OUT OF THE EVENING.
THAT'S WHERE THE SECURITY ISSUES COME FROM.
THE, THE, THE, THE BOOKS SHOPS, THE GIFT SHOPS, THE COFFEE SHOPS, THE MOM AND POPS DO NOT CREATE THE SECURITY ISSUES THAT'S SOLELY INCURRED BY THE ALCOHOL SERVING BUSINESSES.
WHO SHOULD INCUR THE POPS FOR THIS FOR THEMSELVES? TAKE THAT AMOUNT, SAVE IT, DROP THE SECURITY CONTRACT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED AT ANY JUNCTURE, IS PROVING ANY EFFICACY TO THE COMMUNITY WHATSOEVER.
DROP THAT CONTRACT WHEN ITS EXPIRATION, COMES IN SEPTEMBER AND PUT THOSE FUNDS INTO THIS BANK INSTEAD OF THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER FOCUS, COMMENT PLEASE, ELLA.
I AM VERY EMPATHETIC TO RISING
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COSTS.I SEE IT EVERYWHERE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THINGS COST MORE THAN THEY USED TO.
UM, WHAT, UH, WHAT I'M NOT EMPATHETIC TO ARE LINE ITEMS AND THE BUDGET THAT I THINK SHOULD NOT BE PAID BY THE METER FUND, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE SECURITY, WHATEVER VALUE THE SECURITY, UM, GIVES US IS CERTAINLY NOT EQUAL TO THE QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS THAT THEY ARE BEING PAID.
IN MY OPINION, WHAT THEY DO IS MOSTLY PERFORMATIVE AND THEY DON'T GENERATE A VALUE.
SECONDARILY, ANY VALUE THAT THEY MAY PROVIDE IS REALLY, THEY ARE BEING PAID BY VISITORS AND BY RESIDENTS.
AND THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING WHATEVER BENEFIT IT IS THAT THEY PROVIDE.
IT SEEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS FEEL THAT SECURITY IS IMPORTANT, BUT I'M ALSO GETTING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BUSINESSES.
THEN THAT SHOULD BE A LINE ITEM THAT IS WORN BY THE BUSINESSES AND NOT BY THE VISITORS AND THE RESIDENTS.
WE'RE TAKING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GETTING BENEFIT.
AND WE ARE MAKING A BONUS FOR THOSE THAT, UM, ARE RECEIVING THE BENEFIT WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT AND ARE POSSIBLY CREATING THE PROBLEMS THAT MAKE US WANT SECURITY.
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THE SECURITY IS VERY VALUABLE.
I THINK IT MAKES US FEEL BETTER THAT WE HAVE SECURITY.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING 250, UH, MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF, UH, OF SECURITY AND WE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
UH, LET'S GO, UH, MS. DEAN TO REDEEM
UM, THE, AND SORRY, BUT I'M GONNA REPEAT WHAT I WANNA REPEAT.
WELL, YEAH, BUT YOUR COMMENT, UH, ANYWAY, WHEN THE PRICES GO UP, WHEN THE HOURS CHANGE, ANY OF THOSE THINGS IMPACT THE RESIDENTS.
IT MEANS THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PARKING ON OUR STREAMS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE PRICE THAT HAS GONE UP A FULL DOLLAR, WHICH IT HAS NEVER DONE BEFORE, A FULL DOLLAR.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO PARK ON OUR STREETS AND IMPACT OUR PARKING, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY, MANY TIMES.
UM, AND TO ADD ON TO WHAT THE TWO PREVIOUS STATEMENTS WERE, UM, REGARDING THE SECURITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WAS NOT A BID PROCESS.
SO ARE WE GETTING THE BEST DEAL? AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS, HOW HELPFUL HAVE THEY REALLY BEEN? WERE THEY AROUND WHEN WITHIN THE LAST MONTH THERE HAD BEEN TWO OR THREE SHOOTINGS? WHERE WERE THEY, WHERE WERE THEY? AND AS, AS A LOT OF US SAID BEFORE, WE SEE THEM IN THE ALLEYS, THEY STAND, THEY SIT THERE ON THEIR BIKES TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER IN THE ALLEY, OR WITH THE GUY THAT, YOU KNOW, MONITORS THE, UM, THE THE WEED SHOP.
UM, I'M NOT, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW.
UH, NICK, PLEASE, NICK CASPAR, UM, REALLY JUST WANTED TO, UH, ADDRESS, UH, YOUR CIRCLE'S TOPIC.
SO I, I HAVE ANYTHING I TRY TO DO STAFF ON TOP OF THIS.
UH, SO SOME INSIGHT TO THAT, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS BODY IS SET UP WHERE YOU, YOU FALL UNDER DIFFERENT REPLY IN A LOT OF OTHER BIDS.
SO YOUR DECISIONS HAVE TO MADE IN PUBLIC AND PUBLIC THOSE MEETINGS, RIGHT? BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT WAY THAT IT'S SET UP.
WHAT THIS ALSO MEANS IS THE, THE REVENUE THAT ARE THE EXPENDITURES THAT YOU ALL HAVE FALL UNDER LIVING WAGE, OR I'M SORRY, PREVAIL LIVING WAGE.
SO WHEREAS A A ANOTHER BID, IF IT'S ALL THE BUSINESSES PAYING IN, THEY CAN HIRE A HANDYMAN AT $25 AN HOUR, $20 AN HOUR, 20 HOURS A WEEK, UM, TO DO THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEREAS YOU ALL HIRING, CLEANING SERVICES, UM, HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT THAT PREVAILING.
AND SO THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT 20 TO $25 AN HOUR, WHICH I KNOW OTHER BIDS IN THE CITY HAVE THAT TO THAT RANGE.
UM, YOU ARE ALL YOUR CONTRACTS UNDER PREVAILING WAGE.
THE MINIMUM WAGE IS $43 AN HOUR WITH, UH, BENEFITS UP TO $71 AN HOUR.
SO ONE BID CAN CONTRACT OR WE CAN HIRE 70 PART-TIME AND $20 AN HOUR NO BENEFITS.
YOUR MINIMUM HOURLY WAGE WAGE IS $71 AN HOUR BECAUSE OF THIS BODY, THE WAY THIS BODY SET UP.
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HARD TO DO APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE YOU ALL FUND FALL UNDER MORE OF THE GOVERNMENT SIDE WITH CONTRACTING, WHEREAS OTHER BIDS DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU DO.SO THAT'S WHY YOUR COSTS ARE GONNA BE EXTREMELY HIGH, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING, YOU'RE USED TO DEALING WITH THE BUSINESS SIDE AND THEY'RE WORKING AS A GOVERNMENT.
OUR COSTS ARE, ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN
UM, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
WE ARE, WE NOW GOING TO RECOMMEND IT THE RATE INCREASE TO $3 AN HOUR AND THE EXPANSION TO THE THIRD HOUR.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES THE REGULAR CALENDAR.
UH, WE MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ON MAIN TOPIC PLEASE.
UH, BRIAN COCHIN, I'M NOT SURE, UH, REGARDING CONTENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN RAISED BEFORE AND I WANT TO COME BACK TO IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS ABOUT TO BE, UH, UH, FRUSTRATING THAT THIS MEETING, IT WAS DELAYED FROM SCHEDULED MEETING FROM A WEEK AGO.
AND THE MEETING, UH, THE AGENDA WASN'T POSTED UNTIL 24 HOURS BEFORE IT WAS A HOLIDAY AGAIN, IF THAT HAD BEEN POSTED BEFORE.
AND THE AGENDA WAS INTENDED TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, WHICH AFFECTS THE COMMUNITY, HAVING SUCH SHORT NOTICE MEANS UTTERLY AND POSSIBLE FOR COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE ON THIS ONE.
THE PROCESS WHEN YOU WERE EVALUATING, UH, THE METER RATE EXTENSION, THE METER HOUR EXTENSION, THERE WAS SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH LOCAL GROUPS, YOU MADE A POINT OF SHOWING UP TO OTHERS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THIS ISSUE.
AND HERE WE ARE WITH THE MOST MINIMUM AMOUNT OF NOTICE AND INFORMATION PROVIDED WITH THE COMMUNITY TO WAITING ON THIS ON A THURSDAY MORNING WITH THE, UH, BEARS OF INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT.
SO YOU MAY BE ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE TAKING THIS UP AND JUST WISH WHISTLING IT THROUGH, BUT THIS IS THE WORST SENSE OF WHAT GOVERNMENT DOES AND WHAT COMMUNITY EFFORTS ARE MEANT TO BE.
UH, IT'S SYMPTOMATIC OF THAT, THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS THAT SUGGESTS ANY, ANY FURTHER PROPOSALS OR IDEAS OR CONCEPTS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD THAT IT WAS JUST DONE BY PEOPLE.
NOT EVEN A FULL FORUM, FULL FULL MEETING SESSION HERE WITH COMMISSIONER DAB ABSENCE.
THIS IS THE WORST OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY SEES IN THIS BODY AND IT'S GOVERNMENT.
WE MOSTLY EXPECT AT LEAST SEVEN, TWO HOURS MINUTES FOR THINGS TO BE POSTED AND AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE.
THIS IS THE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONTRARY.
IT USED TO BE SOMETHING I CONSIDERED A BUG.
YOU'VE EMBODIED THAT PRINCIPLE HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT YOUR INPUT.
WE WILL WRAP OUR THINGS IN THE TROPES OF SECURITY AND AESTHETIC WHILE, WHILE NOT PRESENTING THE FULL WEIGHT OF THOSE PEOPLE WANT SIGN, BUT THEY DON'T WANT SIGN RELATIVE TO THE EXPENSE OF IT RELATIVE TO OTHER THINGS.
AND YOU'VE DISREGARDED THAT BY THE CHAIR FOR THAT.
I REALLY COMMEND OUR NEW MEMBERS, UH, AND COMMISSION ARE TRYING TO MAKE AN EFFORT HERE.
BUT I SEE THE SAME BODY THINKING AT THE TOP OF THIS.
I CALL FOR THE RESERVATIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO, THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO BRING OVER BOARD.
UH, AND I THINK YOU'RE IN EFFECTUAL AND YOU'RE UNRESPONSIVE COMMUNITY AND HAVE ONLY YOURSELF IN HERE TO HEART.
AND I'M REALLY EMBARRASSED FOR THAT.
OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS, PLEASE, HEATHER BELMONT SHO BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT BACK TO WHAT, UH, JEFF BROUGHT UP IS THAT BELMONT SHORT IS A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND THIS IS THE INTERNATIONAL PROGRAM.
THERE ARE NINE BIDS IN LONG BEACH.
THERE ARE BIDS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
SANTA MONICA PROMENADE, HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD, DOWNTOWN SLOW GAS LAMP, LITTLE ITALY.
A LOT OF THE BUSINESS DISTRICTS PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE THERE IS A MANAGEMENT BODY THERE AND MOST BIDS THAT HAVE METERS IN THEIR BIDS, PART OF THE METER REVENUE GOES DIRECTLY TO THE BID.
AND THE BID DEFINITELY PAYS FOR CLEAN, SAFE AND ALL THOSE, INCLUDING OUR DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH FIXED FUNERALS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE METERS.
BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW,
AND THAT'S ALMOST EVERY KIND OF BIG BUSINESS DISTRICT YOU CAN THINK OF.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
OH, THE DOUBLE TOUR IS DIFFERENT.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY 100% CLEAR THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION AND THE BSBA ARE SEPARATE.
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THEY HAVE STRONG DOTTED LINES AND THEY WORK TOGETHER AS A BID.THE OTHER BIDS IN OUR CITY DO NOT HAVE PARKING COMMISSIONS.
THEY DON'T HAVE 100% CONTROL OF THEIR FUNDS.
SO THEY'RE VERY, VERY, VERY HARD TO COMPARE TO ONE ANOTHER.
WE HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION, BUT OVERALL BUSINESS DISTRICTS, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, THEY'RE NOT THIS, THEY'RE NOT SET UP LIKE THIS, BUT THEY DO COVER THOSE.
WE HAVE TO, TO COMMENT ALL WAY ON.
UM, THE OTHER BUSINESS DISTRICTS WITHIN OUR CITY DO NOT MAKE, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE WAY THAT THIS ONE DOES.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES, BUT THERE'S HUGE DIFFERENCES TOO BECAUSE THERE'S TWO BODIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
UH, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY THAT HAS COMMENT.
UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED TO 10 0 3.