* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:16] I'M SORRY, ARE YOU TO THE NEXT WEEK? UH, YEAH. YEAH, I'LL BE THERE. OKAY. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. . OKAY. OKAY. I FOLLOW MEETING YOUR ORDER AND, UH, WE ASIDE FOR HIS MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. I'M JUST GONNA DO ROLL CALL REAL QUICK. OKAY. OKAY. DO ROLL CALL JULIE V HERE. UH, STEVEN WOODS ABSENT. JIM HOWIE, RIGHT. WE HAVE FOUR. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE THE MAYORS FUND UPDATE TO, WELL FIRST APPROVE. YEAH. THANK, SO YOU WANTED STEP AHEAD HERE? UH, OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE ANCE FOR THE GREATEST FUNDS COMMITTEE, OR WE DO, WE NOT SAID, BUT YES. OKAY. SO MOVED. SECOND. I ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. AND THEN JUST FOR RECORDING PURPOSES, GREAT. JUST FOR RECORDING PURPOSES, THERE'S NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, YES, SO YOU GUYS DO HAVE THE PRINT PRINTED OUT VERSION OF THE, UH, MAYOR'S FUNDING BALANCE. UM, I COMBINED MAY AND JUNE. SO FOR MAY, THE ENDING BALANCE WAS 1 6 8 4 26 7. UM, TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS WAS 7 60 22. UM, AND THE ENDING BALANCE FOR JUNE WAS 1 7 4 5, 6 7 21. UH, TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR JUNE WAS 1008 NINE THREE WITH THEIR WERE CENTS. UM, WE STILL HAVE FOUR OUTSTANDING MOUS. AND THEN, UM, THE TOTAL BALANCE AS OF JULY 28TH, 2025 WOULD BE 1004, 7 0, 67 AND 21. YEAH. AND THEN WE HAVE NO NEW, UH, APPLICANTS AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE ONES THAT ARE FINISHING UP? YEAH. UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PRESENT TIME, I GUESS, IS THAT TRUE? CORRECT. BUT WE, ME AND, UH, URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES ARE, HAVE BEEN IN AUGUST. UM, I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO THEM TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEIR, UH, MOU WILL BE EXPIRING IN AUGUST. UM, AND THEN HIS LITTLE FEED STILL HAS TILL OCTOBER AND DISABLED RESOURCES TILL NOVEMBER. UM, SO THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. YEAH. YEAH. ONE THING THAT HAS CONCERNED ME ABOUT FOR IS THAT WE DON'T SEEM TO GET REALLY GOOD END OF SERVICE TYPE BEFORE. WELL, WE ARE, WE, WE NOW ASK THEM FOR IT. SO WE WILL BE, WE WILL BE DONE ALL THESE. YEAH. YEP. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON DOWN. WE'VE GOT THE, UH, WE NEED A MOTION YES. FUND STANDARD. RIGHT. WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. OH YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH. SO SECOND PAUL FAVOR [00:05:06] SOMEBODY. OH, THAT'S A NICE, STAY HERE. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. RIGHT. UM, SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON THE SEND IT UPGRADE PROCEDURE. YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THIS ONE THING STRUCK ME IMMEDIATELY, HERE WERE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WE HAD THE INITIAL PROCEDURE FOR ADMIN PATIENTS AND ONE THING THAT WAS INCLUDED ON IT, WHICH HAS BEEN A, I'LL BE VERY HONEST, A POINT OF DIFFICULTY FOR ME THAT IT DID SAY THAT 30% OF THE APPROVAL SHOULD BE BASED ON THE CAPACITY OF THE ORGANIZATION TO DO THE WORK. AND I SEE THAT IS LEFT OUT AGAIN. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT BEEN LOOKING AT IS THE ACTUAL CAPACITY OF THE ORGANIZATION TO DO WHAT THEY'RE AT STILL. AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, ONES WE BE GETTING HAVE BEEN LACKING IN AN EXPERIENCE AND DOING THINGS. WHAT WAS THE 30%? IT WAS, AS I REMEMBER IT WAS 30% OF THE APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE BASED ON THE CAPACITY OF THE ORGANIZATION, THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY OF YOUR ORGANIZATION. SO 30%, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, ABOUT A THIRD OF YOUR APPROVAL WOULD BE BASED ON THAT. OH, A THIRD OF THE EVALUATION. THE EVALUATION SHOULD BE BASED ON THE CAPACITY MM-HMM . AND IT USED THE WORD CAPACITY THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL ONE FROM THE YEAH. THE CRITERIA. YEAH. REALLY THIS IS THE FINE. THIS IS THE FINAL VERSION THAT WE DON'T HAVE FROM OUR LAST SHOULD HAVE A, BUT AGAIN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN I READ OUR THING, THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT MENTIONS THE PATH, THE ABILITY OF THE ORGANIZATION TO DO THE WORK. WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TECHNICAL THINGS THAT THEY DOES REVIEW, FIT THE PURPOSE, THOSE THINGS, BUT I WE'RE GIVING MONEY TO SOMEBODY THAT CAN ACTUALLY HANDLE IT. RIGHT. NO, I AGREE. BUT, UM, UH, SINCE THIS IS THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AND IT'S, IT, IT'S SUPPOSED TO, UM, ESTABLISH, UM, CONSISTENCY AND, UH, GUIDELINES FOR REVIEW OF THE I WOULD HELP TAKE OUT THAT SHUT. WE CAN, I MEAN, YOU GUYS WANT TO THAT AND THEN THAT CHECKLIST WOULD HAVE CAPACITY IS WHETHER THE YEAH. CAPACITY WOULD BE BETWEEN ONE IS MONEY BECAUSE ONLY GOOD MONEY INTO SOMEBODY AND IT HASN'T PAID A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, TO HAVE THAT THE CRITERIA IN WHICH THE, UM, PROPOSAL ARE VALUE, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I THIS IS FINE. IT'S, IT'S A BUT IT'S, THAT WOULD HAPPEN. IT DOESN'T SHOW THE, EVEN WHEN STAFF DID THE REVIEW MM-HMM . WE NEVER HIT ON THE FACT OF MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS IS DO THEY PAY THEIR STATE TAXES THAT THEY FILED AT STATE REPORT MM-HMM . AND THOSE THINGS SHOW THAT THEY'RE REALLY AN OPERATING. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU CAN BASICALLY OPEN A, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO OPEN A NON-PROFIT AND, UH, TO KEEP UP ON. UM, OKAY. WELL YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL, I'LL LOOK IN MY FILE AND I'LL FIND THAT SAYING THAT, UM, TWO PEOPLE AGO. I KNOW. NO. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S NOT THAT JOLENE TOGETHER, JOLENE, WE COULD GET THE ORIGINAL AGAIN. YEAH, YEAH. I HAVE. LOOK AT THAT. AND UH, BASICALLY JUST ADD ANOTHER SECTION THAT SAID THAT TELL THE PEOPLE YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT YOUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE THESE MONEY. RIGHT. 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM THAT. RIGHT. AND THEN WE [00:10:01] START ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE FIND OUT ENGINEER. YEAH. WHY FIND, YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY THAT I, I'LL MAKE, I GUESS I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT I WOULD MOVE TO THE MOTION BECAUSE WE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THIS ONE. UM, IT, IT IS JUST FILE UNDER, SO YEAH. OKAY. SO A MOTION TO FILE RECEIVE THE MAYOR'S FUND STANDARD OPERATING UPDATE. YEAH. I GUESS WE COULD INCLUDE THAT THERE. THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT I COULD EVEN MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION THAT WE INCLUDE THE FACT THAT WE WOULD BE DOING FINANCIAL CAPACITY. RIGHT. AND YOU JUST HAVE A MOTION. YEAH. OKAY. SO A MOTION THEN TO THE SAME FILE PROPOSED, SORRY, THE FIRST TIME? YEAH. UM, WE ON I NOTE THREE. OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DRAFT MANAGE FUNDS STANDARD ACTIVATING PROCEDURES AND INCORPORATE, UM, THE CRITERIA FOR EVALUATION ON THE NEXT, THE THING UPSTAIRS ARE ON THIS, ON HERE ON REVIEW THIS HANDED OFF FOR THE PROCEDURE. YEAH. THE ONE THING WE NOTED THAT THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE THAT MENTIONED SAID FINANCIAL COMPARISON TO HANDLED BUYING FOOD. THAT AS PART OF THE FOOD PROMISE, UH, NO, A LIMITED PRESSURE, THEY HAVE TO GIVE A, A NONPROFIT SOMETIMES WITH SOME GRANTS. THEY, UM, WANNA SEE THAT THEY HAVE EITHER SOLVED THE AUDIT OR I DON'T KNOW. OR THEIR RETURN YEAH, RETURN. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. BASICALLY YOU CAN GO IN AND GET A NINE 90 ON AND YOU FIND OUT IF THE RELEASE DONE A POSTCARD. SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT KIND. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT WHERE, UH, SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET WAS LIKE $10,000 AND THEN WE PROPOSED, OR THEY ASKED FOR ANOTHER $10,000 THAT NECESSARILY SENT TO BE THAT, BUT ONE THAT ACTUALLY PUT IN THEIR POST OFFICE BOX THEIR LITTLE PAGE HOUSE. SO . YEAH. YES. WELL, THE THING IS, I REMEMBER MY PARENTS HAD NOT, AND THEY, THEY HAD THAT ONE TIME MONTH, BUT YOU HAVE HAVING WORKING MORTAR PROSTATE . YEAH. I, I'VE SET UP THE PROBLEM NONPROFITS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S NOT SHORT TERM, BUT OKAY. I WOULD MOVE ON. OKAY. NOW THE NEXT ONE REVIEW CALLED THE GRANT APPLICATION. WE DIDN'T GET THE GRANT APPLICATION. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONLINE? YES, JUST THE ONLINE. IT'S ON, IT'S ALL ON ONLINE NATIONAL. THERE'S COPY. SO, WELL, I, I THINK WE SHOULD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ALL SAYING THAT THE ALIGNMENT IS ALSO INCLUDED, RIGHT? THERE'S A ON POLICY ONLY ONE GRAND, AND THIS SAYS THEY CAN GET MONTH WHERE THAT RIGHT ON THE TOP OR IT WAS IN THERE, BUT WHAT THERE, [00:15:03] OKAY. SAME USE ONLY. OKAY. OH YEAH. IT'S A ONCE FINE, IT IS ONE TIME. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN ONLY BE AWARDED FOR WHEN NO, IT DOES COME UP WITH ANOTHER SITUATION AND THEY FUNDING ON THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT. SO ISN'T IT ISN'T THE NON-PROFIT ITSELF, IT'S LIMITED TO ONE TIME ALL JUST THAT ONE STUFF. OKAY. SO EACH ONE TO GET THE BUSINESS PROPOSAL. YES. YEAH. SEE ACTUALLY WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS, MY THOUGHT WAS, WELL, THIS IS REALLY GREAT THING BECAUSE I KNEW A LOT OF RECOVERY PROGRAMS HAVE YOU SHELTERS THAT SOMETIMES JUST NEEDED A NEW REFRIGERATOR. AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FOR THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT WOULD SOME EXPANDED BEYOND THAT? MM-HMM . AND WE DO IT FOR GIVING ATHLETES TOO. I MEAN YEAH. UM, BUT IT STILL WOULD BE THE THINGS LIKE THAT IF THEY NEED SOMETHING, REPLACE SOMETHING, KEEP THE ORGANIZATION RUNNING, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. LIKE WE DID THAT PERSON OUT. YEAH. WE APPRECIATE IT. RIGHT. UM, ONE OTHER THING THAT I WAS THINKING, AND I DON'T HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT IT, UM, IF AN AGENCY WANTED TO COME IN AND APPLY THE, THE, THEIR FUND TO BE USED FOR HOMELESS PREVENTION, WHICH IS RENT ASSISTANCE, UM, I YOU SEVERAL THREE DAY NOTICES AND YEAH. BUT THEN THAT WAS COUPLE MUCH. WELL WE DIDN'T NEED HAVE THAT 10,000 THING . UM, CAPITAL AGE. I, I LIKE TO THINK IT COULD ALSO BE USED IN A SITUATION WHERE MAYBE A C DEALING WITH, UH, ADDICTION FINDS OF IS A NEW APPROACH THAT COULD MORE BETTER FOR WHAT THEY DO THAT WOULD GIVE THEM SORT OF STARTUP, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHICH WOULD BE OF MORE BENEFIT. MM-HMM . I THINK THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THAT PROBABLY THINK WE RENT TALK TO ABOUT PAY LOSS. YEAH. RECOVERY, BOOM. YES. OKAY. YEAH. A LOT OF TIMES SOME PEOPLE WITH THOSE PROGRAMS, UH, THAT I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT IS PAID FOR THROUGH INSURANCE. YOU KNOW, EVEN IT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT , THEY HAD TO GET CLINIC A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL, PRACTICAL ADOPT OR PRACTICING AND CONSTANTLY THEY WOULDN'T DO IT FOR IT WAS NECESSARILY THEY, THEY WELL THEY DON'T HAVE. RIGHT. BUT THE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, CALLING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF TREATMENT, A LOT OF THE INSURANCE WON'T PAY FOR 30 DAYS AND, AND THEY BACK WHERE EXACTLY. STREETS. YEAH. HOUSING IS OUR BIGGEST YES. SO, UM, AND THEY'RE NOT BETTER AFTER 30 DAYS. NO, THEY'RE CLEANER. SURE. RIGHT. AND CLEANER. PHYSICALLY CLEANER. YEAH. REALLY. YEAH. THAT, ESPECIALLY DEPENDING ON MM-HMM . 30 DAYS, 30 DAYS DOESN'T DO IT ALL. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TEACHER . REALLY? SO 10,000, IT, IT, WE, WE GIVE THIS OUT MULTIPLE IN A YEAR'S TIME. WE CAN YEAH. IT DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T USE TO LIMIT TO 10,000 WHEN, UM, UH, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS JUST DURING THE PANDEMIC THINGS GOT SO NICKEL AND NY WHAT THAT THEY SHIPPED OUT THE 10,000. BUT, BUT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC WE DID, UH, WE WERE MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE FIXED CRITERIA AND, AND IT WAS SOME UNIQUE GAP, MEAN GAP NEEDS. UM, SO IT COVERED, UM, YOU MOST HOTEL STAYS, TRANSPORTATION. UM, IT WAS JUST BROADER AND, AND IT COULD BE MORE THAN TO THOUSAND. UM, WE PAID, UM, IN THE PAST, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. BUT DO WE, OR MAYBE IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. THE PAST PROJECT LIST WE'VE PASSED. WE'VE DONE, UM, WE'VE PAID FOR MODIFICATIONS TO BUILDINGS. YEAH. I MEAN, PRETTY HIGH END. OH, HERE IT'S, SO IF YOU GO DOWN FURTHER DOWN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, SO YOU KNOW, AT, AT ONE POINT, UH, OKAY. UM, YOU, YOU JUST SEE A LOT MORE DIVERSITY IN PROJECTS, RIGHT? YEAH. AND WE HAVE PROJECTS FOR 30,000, 15,000 AND UH, REALLY A BROAD RANGE OF PROJECTS. UM, YEAH. AND THE THING IS, [00:20:02] I KNOW THIS IN ONE OF THEM THAT GOT A REQUEST FROM HALF AND VERY LONG, THINGS TO HAVE TURNED THAT DOWN IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT ATTITUDE WAS, WELL, BIG ORGANIZATIONS DON'T NEED MONEY. WELL, , WE HAVE OUR MONEY ALLOCATED TO CERTAIN PLACES AND SOMETIMES WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SAVE A PROGRAM. YEAH. OUR OLD FUNDS AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WHEN YOU TURN ONE DOWN, IT WAS FOR YOUTH PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS FOR PATH. AND WE FELT AND, BUT FEELING WAS OKAY, SEE THAT 2020, REMEMBER JIM? YEAH. YOU REMEMBER THAT WAS YEAH. WE ACTUALLY PLATE PAID FOR THE, FOR THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS. DID VIEW THE CITY STAY FIRST STATE PARKING, SEE THOSE THINGS. OH YEAH. THAT WAS VERY OFTEN WHERE WE, DURING COVID ITY PARKING LOTS, IT WAS BEFORE THE BILLING OCCURRED IN 25 THAT HE ACTUALLY LIVED IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE THAT. RECENTLY MORE THINGS HAVE BEEN THINGS TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM. YEAH. IN OTHER WORDS, GIVING OUT WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MORE THAN LIKELY 51 5 LESS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVING WORKED WITH, UH, THIS VERY POPULATION IN, IN HOUSING, UM, THERE IS A LOT OF HOUSING, UM, TOOLS FROM OUR INDIVIDUALS WHO OR, OR KNOW WHO CONSIDER UNHOUSED. UM, A LOT OF IT IS THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ACCOUNTABLE IN SOME, SOME CASES NOT AT ALL IN SOME, BUT I SEE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF ONES THAT AT LEAST I'VE BEEN DIRECT CONTACT DON'T WANT THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, OR ALL THOSE HOUSE RULES STAY INDOOR. RIGHT. IT'S, IT IS IT, IT HAS TO DO WITH TRYING TO, TO FIND FOR THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. RIGHT. UM, YEAH. UM, A POPULATION THAT COULD HAVE ADHERE TO HOUSE RULES. UM, UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART I THINK, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO THINK THAT IF WE HAD SHARED LIVING ACCOMMODATION, NO SHARED LIVING ACCOMMODATIONS, ATORY STYLE ACCOMMODATIONS OR FAMILIES, THAT THAT WILL BE IMPACTFUL. AND SO, UM, YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND. I AGREE. NO CHILDREN LIVING PARK, IT'S MOM. WELL IT IS. I I ALSO WORK IN SCHOOL, SO WHEN WE HAVE A YOUNG LADY THAT'S LIVING IN DOING HER HOMEWORK IN THE BACK, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SENATORS THAT COME OUTTA THAT PREDICAMENT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE HIGHER PERCENTAGE, IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH ALL. SO EVEN SAFE PARKING FOR FAMILIES, LIKE HAVING THREE FAMILIES WITH THEIR KIDS LIVING IN THEIR CARS AND THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK. YOU GET THEM UNDERCOVER AND STILL HAVE CONNECTION WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND YEAH. WE SEPARATE 'EM NOW WE THE KIDS AND KIDS FOSTER THE ADULT, BUT MOM COULD GO INTO, UH, THE HOUSING LIKE THAT, BUT RIGHT. AND ONES THAT ONCE HE HAS THE SUMMIT, 13 KIDS AND STUFF. YEAH. OR EVEN YOUNGER OR BOYS. YEAH. YEAH. I KNOW. I, THAT'S WHY DID YOU, WHEN I'M, I DON'T LIKE HOUSING COURSE AND I IS MISUNDERSTOOD. I LIKE THE CONCEPTS OF PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOUSING, BUT I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF IT BEING COMFORTABLE FOR THEM ONE. AND SECONDLY THAT YOU DO HAVE TO TRY AND SOLVE SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS, HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT HOUSING. OH NO, A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND, AND WHAT I DON'T, I'M JUST SAYING AS A BUSINESS OWNER, IF YOU'RE OPERATING HOUSING FIRST, WHAT IS THE SECURITY? IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA SUE IT, IF THEY HAVE A DRUG APPLICABLE TO A PROBLEM, THERE'S NONE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, ELIMINATIONS IN THOSE, THAT SITUATION BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY GET MONEY FIRST TRIAL ALL ALWAYS PATIENCE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH PERSON THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS SOMEBODY WHO'S ASKING ABOUT A LAWYER THAT'S HIS KID RIGHT AWAY FROM HOME AND NOW HE'S IN YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FACILITY AND HE GOT IN FENTANYL. DAD'S MAD, GOTTA SUE SOMEBODY. WELL THAT WATCH TO THE TOP BRANDON WHO OPERATE STATE ROW SQUARE, UM, THE HOUSING TRUST, WHICH WAS BASICALLY STARTS BY AT FIRST AS WE KNOW, AND IT WAS BUILDING OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY HAD NO CHOICE OVER WHO THEY WERE TAKING IN AND THE TENDENCY WERE TAKING IN WERE DISAPPOINTED. YEAH. AND SO WE LOST, THEY BANKRUPT. ALSO SEEING FORTUNE TOO. WHAT I HAVE SEEN WORKING IN THIS IS THAT SORT [00:25:01] THE POPULATION, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR, TIME OF THE MONTH, THEY ARE EM BOLDED TO, TO, YOU KNOW, GO, THEY HAVE OPTIONS. WELL, I DON'T HAVE TO BE INDOOR BECAUSE I CAN DOWN HERE, I CAN GET THIS, THIS AND THIS FOR FREE. THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFICULT THINGS THAT I'M THINKING THAT WE'RE FACING IS THAT IT'S, IT FEELS REALLY BAD TO NOT BE ABLE TO HELP SOMEBODY WHO'S IN ACTUAL NEED. BUT WE DO HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE HAVE END DAY PROBLEMS. SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, BECAUSE MIDDLE CLASS IS TAKING THE BIGGEST HIT, REGARDLESS WHAT EVERYBODY SAY. WELL OBVIOUSLY AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SEEN, THE, THE TEACHERS, THE NURSES, THE, THE COPS WHO WERE PAYING AFTER NEXT HOUSE, UM, THEY'RE NOT SEEING, THEY'RE SEEING THAT HIGH, UH, BEING AWAY PRETTY BIG. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, WHERE'S THE MONEY GO? RIGHT. BECAUSE WE STILL SEE EM ON THE TENT ON THE STREET WHERE MY APARTMENT, I, I THINK WE CITY BROKEN BECAUSE, UM, THROWING A A BILLION DOLLARS AT SOMETHING HASN'T IMPROVED THE SITUATION. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED. UM, BUT GOING BACK TO THE S FUND, $150,000. YEAH. UM, MAYBE IT IS TIME AGAIN, JEN TO TAKE OUT THAT $10,000 BECAUSE, AND EVEN $10,000 IS NOTHING HONESTLY. OH, IT IS DAYS. IT'LL BE LESS HALF. I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA KEEP FUNDING SHOES. I DON'T WANT 'EM DO HYGIENE KITS. I, BECAUSE, BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY DONATES TO THE MARRIAGE FUND MAKES A NON-PROFIT CONTRIBUTION TO THE MARRIAGE FUND AND THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, I DON'T THINK THEY, THEY, THEY THINK THAT THEY WERE GONNA PAY FOR SHOES AND HYGIENE KITS. THEY THINK BECAUSE THE NEAR FUND USED TO CALLED THE MAYOR SPEND FOR HOMELESS AND HOMELESSNESS THAT WELL, I THINK WE WOULD DO BETTER RAISING FUNDS IF WE OPERATE MORE ON THE PACE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. DOING THINGS SORT OF MADE NOTABLE DIFFERENCES TO COMMUNITY. I THINK THEY GET LARGER DONATIONS FROM COMPANIES MM-HMM . BECAUSE THEY WOULD SEE VALUE. WHEREAS PEOPLE DON'T REALLY SEE VALUE IN GIVING OUT LITTLE THINGS. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THEIR LIFE. IT'S IN SEND IT LITERALS AND PROBLEM FOR A MOMENT, BUT IT, IT CHANGE. I, SO I THINK WE SAW THE CHANGE THE WHOLE, I SAID TO SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON THE AGING COMMISSION AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT, UM, I THINK THAT COUNTY JUST BROUGHT A REPORT THAT, UM, WE SEE OVER 50 POPULATIONS THE FASTEST GOING, UM, POPULATION ENTERING HOMELESSNESS AND YEAH. SO, SO MAYBE, UM, WE CAN HAVE A POPULATION THAT WE CAN TARGET AND USE, USE AS A PILOT, YOU KNOW, 15,000 VOTES TO SENIORS AND NEED THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS IS THE BIGGEST THING. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT. AND, AND A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF LESSNESS HAVE BEEN SAVED BY SORT OF, UH, OR CARRIER BOARD WHO WILL GO INTO SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES AND ARE GETTING WHAT THEY CALL THOSE FACILITY PATIENTS. YES. WHO THOSE SKILLED NURSING, NOT OFTEN THEM THERE. RIGHT. AND THE FIRST CHANCE THEY CAN GET THEM OUT OF THERE. YES THEY DO. BUT REP PEOPLE COME WHO ARE DOING GOOD WORK, RIGHT? YEAH. THOSE REPORTS, THEY GO OUT. THOSE PEOPLE JUST BE A HOME STREET WITH GO CARE. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST, I JUST, WE STUDY FOR MY ORGANIZATION, WE LITTLE ABOVE MAY I ON WHERE WE ARE WITH SENIOR HOUSING YEAH. AND IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY WITH DI I MEAN, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE APPROACHING THAT AGE THAT HAVE NO ASSETS AND NO INCOME BEYOND SOCIAL SECURITY GOING TO HELP THEM. SO THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT THERE WITH AN INCOME OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1500 $15,000 A MONTH. SO THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN AFFORD ANYTHING. SO WE'VE GOT, THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS AND I JUST NOTICED, I THINK THE LATEST STUDY, I'M REMEMBERING WHY THAT'S THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN ALL BUSINESS. YEAH. STARTED FIND JOBS MORE SO NOW WITH OBVIOUSLY TECHNOLOGY THINGS AND UH, UM, WOULD THERE BE [00:30:01] SEEING A WAY TO DO, UM, I'M ALSO COMMUNITY MM-HMM. UM, I TRY TO DO THINGS THAT ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY, HAVE A POPULATION. IS THERE A WAY TO DO A SHARED SENIOR? YES. A HUNDRED PERCENT. NO. BECAUSE WHAT IT IS, IS THE DOCTORS DETERMINE ON THE DISCHARGE OF THE PATIENT NEEDS, RIGHT? IF THEY SAY THAT THEY CAN LIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, AT A LOWER LEVEL, THIS IS THE TERM WHICH MEANS BASICALLY NOT A LICENSED FACILITY. RIGHT. AND SO THE NURSE, THIS DOCTOR WHO'S USUALLY JUST SITS ON A PANEL THAT'S STILL NURSING, RIGHT? MM-HMM . THEY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AND IT'S USUALLY DECISIONS THEY MAKE THAT ADMINISTRATOR, HOW MANY BED DO WE NEED TO OPEN UP? NO, NO OFFENSE. BUT I'M SAYING FOR THE MOST PART, SOMEBODY UTILIZES CARE, THE DOCTOR AROUND THE ORDER, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT USUALLY SIT TECHNICALITY WHETHER THEY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THE INSURE OR SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT GONNA PUT THEIR CUT IN THEIR MOUTH MM-HMM . THAT THAT'S A FEATURE SUPPORTING IT AND YOU, IT TO THEM SAME ACTION, WHETHER YOU GIVE IT TO THEM IN AND OR SUPPORTING TO THE MOUTH ALLOWS, DETERMINES THE DIFFERENCE. YEAH. AND, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING, AGAIN, MY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY MUCH WITH THE SINGLE GROUP OF THE LARGEST NON-PROFIT PROVIDER, REGULAR . AND WE'RE LOOKING VERY SERIOUSLY AT THAT BECAUSE THE NEED IS GONNA BE TREMENDOUS. YEAH. ALL INCLUDE HOME. BUT HE, HE'S ALWAYS SEEN, I'VE SEEN, OH YEAH. YOU GO LOOK AT THE, THE GENERAL AGE OF A TYPICAL RENTER AT THOSE PLACES. IT'S ABOUT 58 AND ABOVE. AND NOW I SEEN, I'VE GONE TO A LOT OF HALFWAY HOUSES AND SEEN, UM, HOW OLD ARE PATIENTS, BUT OH, OH, A MISS. IT IS, IT IS NAP POLAR. YOU WILL SEE ALL WALKS THAT SEE THAT. BUT THE GOOD ONE WHY FLOOD PROBLEM FOR OTHERS WE UPGRADE BA WE UPGRADE TWO SRO HOTELS IN SKID ROW, THE OLD STYLE MM-HMM . YEAH. ROOMS ARE A LITTLE OVER 100 SQUARE FEET AND WASH BASE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BAD A TOILET. RIGHT. TOILET AND SHOWERS DOWN THE HALL. RIGHT. WE RENT THOSE FOR $400 A MONTH. WOW. WHICH IS FOR A LOT PEOPLE. YES. IT'S, AND UH, WE RAN THE SENIOR REALLY SERIES OF PROBLEM OF THE LAST YEAR, FIRST OF ALL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE ONE LA PUT A WRENCH THING ON DURING COVID THAT WE COULDN'T COLLECT RENT. THEN THEY PASSED , THEN THEY PASSED ANOTHER ORDINANCE THAT SAY YOU NOT EVICT ANYONE UNLESS THEY ARE AT LEAST EQUIVALENT TO THREE MONTHS BEHIND THE RENT. BUT THE RENT THEY USE WAS FOR SINGLE, FOR ITS EFFICIENCY APARTMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT $2,000 A MONTH. WE PUSH RULES. SO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE COULDN'T EVICT ANYBODY. MM-HMM . SO THERE WERE AT LEAST $2,000 BEHIND UNDER THEIR RENT. SO WE ENDED UP WITH A LOT OF APARTMENTS WITH PEOPLE JUST LIVING IN THEM. AND WE LOST A FORTUNE OF THE LAST YEAR RUNNING THOSE PLACES. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENS WITH THIS CITIES PAST ORDINANCES WITHOUT THINKING. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY CAN MODIFY THEIR ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S GOING, IT, IT MEANS WE'RE GONNA CLOSE DOWN THOSE SR ROAD AND THAT WILL BE OVER 250 PEOPLE NORTH FEET OUT ON THE STREET. AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. SO THAT'S, YEAH. I MEAN MOST OF THE, YEAH. THOSE KIND OF PLACES ARE OLD SCHOOL AND YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF, BUT , SHE DO A CONVERSION AND WE'VE REPURPOSED LIKE NONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS ON PACIFIC, LIKE ON , I JUST GO BIG ONE. I USED TO WORK AT C 97 8. MM-HMM . THERE WAS A LARGE ONE ON, UM, WASN'T WAS IT THE YEAH. COMMISSION OWNED REALLY, IT WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS, WAS WAS A LARGE BUILDING. LIKE IT LOOKED LIKE AN OLD SCHOOL, UH, BROWNSTONE. YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WAS A LARGE, IT HAD A, HAD THE OUTSIDE, UM, WALL, A STAIR LIKE EMERGENCY STAIRCASE. AND IT WAS A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES. IT WAS A PROGRAM. IN FACT, WE WOULD HELP GET TEETH FIXED. SO BEFORE THEY WENT TO THE JOB, UH MM-HMM. INTERVIEW AND UM, YEAH, LIKE I THINK THAT THERE ABANDONED IN CLINICS, YOU KNOW, HEALTH CLINICS, [00:35:01] WHICH I SEE AS YEAH. RATHER EASY TO, FOR US, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. EXPLAIN, GIVE THEM A BASIC, GIVE WHAT OUR CONVERSATION HAS HAD AND SAYING THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT ON AND TO, FOR ONE THING BE MEANT TO TRY TO DO MORE WITH IT, MORE EFFECTIVE THINGS WITH IT. BUT RECYCLED MADE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE MONEY TO. AND UH, AND I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY, AND I GUESS THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE THE ONE TO HANDLE IT AND ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN IT, JOIN OUR COMMITTEE. UM, WE COULD ALSO DO IT, UH, IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR POLICY EXEC COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO OUR ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH INCLUDES A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH INCREASING SHELTER BEDS, WHICH YEAH. TECHNICALLY SHARED ROOM CAN FALL UNDER, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING UNDER THE INTERIM HOUSING OR UH, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. THOSE ARE SHELTERS. MM-HMM. AND SO IT, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE CITY COUNCIL IN THERE TO EXHIBIT WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO DO THE MAP ON THE TOTAL COST. IT WOULD BE FOR SOMEBODY SAY SHELTERED. MM-HMM. OR SOMEBODY TO BE PAID IN A SHARED HOME. MM-HMM . LIKE THE VOUCHER, A PRIVATE OWNER AND IT'S CHEAPER TO PUT A SHARED PRIVATE OWNER BECAUSE THEY'RE HANDLING ALL THAT THAN IT IS SHELTER. YEAH. IT, YOU COULD PAY SOME YOU PAY AND OTHER UH, UPWARDS OF BETWEEN FIVE 50 TO EIGHT 50 A MONTH PER MONTH AND THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE THREE HOTS AT THE TOP BED DAY PROGRAM, ALL THAT. NO, DEFINITELY. YEAH. BECAUSE YEAH, WHAT WE PAID THE SHELTER IS ENOUGH HAVING THE MEETING ON SITE. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF WOMEN CARE WOMEN BOARDS LICENSED AND ON LICENSE THAT THERE'S TONS OF PLACES AND YOU REALLY KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE HONESTLY TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN COMMUNITY. SO SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY SEE THE HUMAN WITHIN NOT SOME LARGE CORPORATION THAT NO ATTACHMENT TO RULES. TRUE. WHO'S HEAD THE LICENSE? WELL THAT WOULD BE LICENSE IF THEY CAN GIVE US A LIST. WE GOING DOWN THERE. YOU HAVE SHE BOND. YEAH. YEAH. I'M SORRY. SO, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME GOOD ONES. I JUST KNOW IF THEY WANT, I WAS THINKING OF INVITING 'EM TO, TO BE A SPEAKER AT OUR, OKAY, WELL LET ME LOOK TO SEE WHO VEHICLE. I'LL TALK, I'LL CALL YOU. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE THERE'S TWO PATHS. YOU HAVE THE LICENSED BOARD OF CARES. RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ONES WHO WILL OPERATE MOVING BOARDS, SHARED HOUSING THAT ARE UNLOCKED. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY'S PREFERENCES TALKED ABOUT, BUT I, TO BE REALISTIC MM-HMM . 'CAUSE A LICENSED BOARD CARE IS A SIX BED FACILITY AND MOST OF THOSE PLACES DON'T EXIST ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY GETTING A THOUSAND PER PERSON RIGHT THERE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. SO NO GO THAT IS THE SAME. THERE'S, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FINANCIAL SENSE TO, TO DO THAT BUSINESS UNLESS YOUR GRANDFATHER DIDN'T OLD SCHOOL. WELL, BECAUSE THEY HAD MOTELS. MANY PEOPLE. SURE. WELL SEE THE FUNNY THING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE US MY HEART. WE GOT THREE, FOUR MOTELS WAS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WERE BUYING THE MOTELS. BUT, AND THAT'S A QUESTION WE STILL HAVEN'T KIND ANSWER BY OURS AND WE STILL OPEN MOST LIKELY THREE MOTEL AND, UH, BUT WE, WE RESTRICTED REUSE OF THEM IN A WAY THOSE ROOMS PROBABLY WOULD WORK WITH SENIOR TO THEIR ROOM. YEAH. RIGHT. WELL, RIGHT. SO I SAID YOU CAN'T DO PERMANENT HOUSING UNLESS YOU GOT 300 SQUARE FOOT. RIGHT. 300 FEET THERE. TYPICALLY TWO SOMETHING FEET. SO WHAT THE PLAN IN THE FUTURE, I GUESS IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO, WE WANT CONVERT THOSE FROM INTERIM HOUSING OF PERMANENT HOUSING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN AND BASE ABOUT THE BUILDING AND WE REBUILD IT INSIDE AND PROVIDE 200 SQUARE FOOT UNITS. SO I I, I ALSO THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ROOM FOR SOME OF OUR, UM, IMMUNE PROGRESSIVE, UH, ALL TO WANT OUR PEOPLE TO LOOSEN UP RESTRICTIONS. 'CAUSE THAT IS PREVENTING US FROM GETTING OFF STREETS. ABSOLUTELY. SO HOPING WE CAN GO THAT ROUTE. YEAH. RATHER THAN SUSPENDING EVERYBODY HAVE TO SPEND I KNOW, I KNOW. UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT [00:40:01] ACTUALLY THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT THAT THREE MINUTES SQUARE FOOT PASS THE SENATE BILL FOR, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME TO CHANGE IT. UM, SO WHAT IS THAT UNLICENSED EXAMPLE? SO, UH, A ROOM AND BOARD, JUST A TRADITIONAL LIVING. SIMILAR LIVING. YEAH. SO THOSE PLACES, TO BE HONEST, ARE PROVIDING MAJORITY OF OUR, OF YOUR CARE NOW. YEAH. NO, THEY'RE AND NOT EQUAL OR A HUNDRED PERCENT. WELL, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE LIKE THREE TO FOUR ROOM. I KNOW A GOOD SOME IS. SO I CALL YOU, YOU GET A SENSE. YEAH. AND, AND I, AND EVEN THOSE I'VE SEEN, I'VE BEEN TO SOME, BUT I KNOW THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE, UM, WHERE THEY ARE SHARING WITH EITHER THREE IN A ROOM OR FOUR RULE AND THEY'RE STILL BEING CHARGED LIKE $800 FOR THAT. YEAH. YEAH. LIKE EIGHT MONTHS. YEAH. IN . YEAH. WELL, I, YOU ALL KNOW, I GET IT, THAT THAT IS OPTICS FOR EVERYTHING AND PROBABLY COULD DO MORE OUT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GET AN INCREASING POP. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THEN THEY MAY HAVE TO GIVE RIGHT ROOT FOR THAT. BUT TO ME, WHEN WE'RE PAYING INDIVIDUALS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PAPER WITH JUST HERE'S FREE SOCKS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING IN THE PARK. UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE BETTER OF THE TWO WE . BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, SENIORS AND FAMILIES TO ME ARE ESPECIALLY THE ONES IN THE CARS. YEAH. UM, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT BOY HANGING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE HAVING, WHO WOULD BE SO EASY TO GET ALERT BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE THE WITS WITH THEM. UM, WELL WITH SOME OF 'EM APPROACHING THAT WITH THE, LIKE COMMUNITY HOSPITAL NOW IS RUN BY, I FORGET NAME, IT'S A, UM, YEAH, IT'S A, THAT TOWN HOUSING FOR PEOPLE COMING OUT HOSPITALS. YEAH. BUT IT'S, IT'S RUN SORT OF, UM, I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE A COUPLE TIMES, BUT IT IS AT LEAST BEFORE I WAS AT IT'S TWO TO THREE PEOPLE IN ROOM. YEAH. AND IT'S SEPARATE HOUSING YEAH. HOSPITALS AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE. AND THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE HOMELESS OF GETTING MORE PAY, BUT THAT HOUSING RUNS PROBABLY A HUNDRED, $5,075 TO PAY. OH YEAH. IT IS PROBABLY CUT. YEAH. SOME OF 'EM ARE EVEN STILL THEIR HOSPITAL GAP. YEAH. USUALLY WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THOSE PLACES, THEY'RE PAID FOR BY THE HOSPITAL. BUT THE DISCHARGE, THE FACILITY TREATMENT, YEAH. I THE RECRUIT TAKE THEY'RE TAKING, THEY HAVE CONTRACTS WITH, BUT KAISER CONTRACTS WITH, UH, MEMORIAL, IT IS A, IT IS A RULE LIKE ILLUMINATION. WE, WE HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH COMPETITIVE , BUT A WEST LA THAT YOU PROVIDE THAT HOUSING FOR THE VETERANS AND THEY PAY FOR IT. BUT, UH, WHEN YEAH. THE HOSPITAL GOES IN NAL AND THEY WILL PAY FOR THEIR MEDICATION. MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THE OUTPATIENT MECAL DOESN'T REALLY PAY FOR ANY OUTPATIENT. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY BEING PAID A LOT OF IT ON THE MEDICARE. YEAH. WHOEVER QUALIFIES FOR MEDICARE, YOU GET THAT. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT AS FAR AS THE RECUPERATIVE CARES AND THE, LIKE THOSE MORNINGS OF RECUPERATIVE CARES MM-HMM . DID THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THAT HOSPITAL AND THAT HOSPITAL BASE, WHICH IS, I I GET IT. IT IS A GOOD THING. I MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEED HOSPITALS THAT CAN TREAT PEOPLE, BUT PEOPLE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T BETTER THAN BENEFIT. THEY USED TO JUST STARTING TO THE STREET STILL THAT LA TIMES A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE ENTERPRISE AND PHOTOGRAPHERS, HOSPITALS RELEASE CADETS AND HOSPITAL GO OR DROP IN CENTER ARE BEEN SCHEDULED. I REMEMBER SEEING THAT . YEAH. THAT. OKAY. JAMES, WHERE ARE WE? UM, WELL I'LL, I'LL REDIRECT THIS. THANKS. WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS OTHER THING AND THEN, SO DO WE WANT A MOTION TO PUT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS MORE THE BROADER SCOPE? YES, I WOULD SAY SO. YES. SO IF YOU, YOU WANNA MAKE MOTION? OKAY. FOR THE HAYSTACK? YEAH. FOR THE LARGE, UM, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE HAYSTACK AGENDA, UM, [00:45:01] A DISCUSSION ON THE MAYOR'S FUND AND HOW IT MIGHT BE BROUGHT IN TERMS OF SCOPE AND FINDING. RIGHT. SO MOVED. OKAY. ALL FAVOR? AYE. AYE. WE DONE? OKAY. WE HAVE NUMBER FIVE. AYE. WELL WE JUST DID THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALSO ALSO CHANGING THE FUNDRAISING STRATEGIES FOR THE, UH, MAYOR'S FUND. WE, WE DO ALSO HAVE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, HERE TO HELP STRATEGIZE ANY, UM, IDEAS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE OR WANNA TALK ABOUT OR FUNDRAISING. YEAH. SO, UM, I WORK WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE. YEAH. SO I CAN ASSIST WITH ALL THINGS LIKE MARKETING AND SOCIAL MEDIA STRATEGIES, UM, WHATEVER YOUR GUYS' GOALS ARE, I CAN COME UP WITH. UM, OBVIOUSLY SOCIAL MEDIA IS A VERY, UM, LARGE SCALE IS FREE. THAT'S THE BIG THING ABOUT IT. UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO, WE KNOW THERE'S AID AS WELL. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO THROUGH, UM, PUBLISH SCHOOL PUBLICATIONS, UM, CONSEQUENCE NEWSLETTER AS WELL. THAT'S ALSO THREE NEWSLETTER THAT WE CAN SEND OUT. UM, SO WE HAVE VARIOUS, UM, TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE. LIKE I MENTIONED, IT'S BOTH THREE TOOLS AND THEN THERE ARE SOME EIGHT AVENUES AS WELL. UM, BUT IF WE WANNA FOCUS ON THOSE THREE TOOLS, I CAN HELP COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF STRATEGY JUST TO, UM, GET THE WORD OUT. AND IT SEEMS IT'S FUNDRAISING. UM, AND THERE ARE MORE DONATIONS THAT WE WANNA BRING IN. CORRECT. YEAH. UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT PAGE? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? WHAT HAVE WE DONE PAST ENVELOPE? WELL, UH, YEAH. AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS TO DONATE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WENT TO THE COMPUTER BOARD. SO IT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE JUST VOICE OUT LIKE MASS MAILERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEN WOULD'VE BEEN THE RESULT. IT USED TO BE LIKE MORE OUR BIGGEST IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S FINE. BILL IS MY NAME SAID YEAH. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IT INSERT INTO THE UTILITY BILL FOR THE HOMELESS FUND. MM-HMM. AND IT, IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE, LESS AND LESS EVERY YEAR, BUT LESS PEOPLE GET BY MAY DO WORK WITH A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE RESULT THAT WE'D LIKE THEM TO ALSO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BILLS THAT GO OUT DIGITAL STATEMENT IF WE'RE GONNA ADD SOMETHING DIGITALLY TO THE PUNCH WHEN WE GO OUT. BUT AGAIN, YOU JUST HAVE, UM, . I DON'T THINK SO. IS IT ON THE OTHER PAGE? OH, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US WITH THIS PAGE HERE. THIS LITTLE THING THAT SAYS MAKE A DONATION. ABSOLUTELY. I'M NOT VERY, I SWEARING AT ALL BULL. WHAT WE'RE OUR DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD THAT WE NEED TO SORT OF UPGRADE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE HOMELESS TO THE PEOPLE. YES. MAKE IT BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING INTO THAT FAULT OF THE HOMELESS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT. HMM. AND I GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE. THEY'RE JUST GETTING TIRED. MM-HMM . HEARING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THAT. YEAH. AND IF, IF IT SAY THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS TO ACTUALLY CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES YES. RATHER THAN SAYING WE'RE GIVING SOMEBODY A CASH CARD. HUGE. YES. AND PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO BE ME. SORRY. UH, TARA S FROM THE UH, FOUNDATION DID SAY THAT SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HELP PROMOTE, UM, THE GRANT THROUGH THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO SEND THEM A SHORT WRITE UP OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SAY OR A LINK TO ANY SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHARED OR RE SHOULD. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S EXCELLENT. WE DIDN'T GET THAT ANSWER. . SOUNDS GOOD. WE HAVE A GOOD, WE DO HAVE A GOOD PLACE. . WE DO IT. WE ARE GETTING TO BASICALLY EVERYBODY IN LONG BEACH. MM-HMM . SO THAT IS A, WE JUST HAVE TO USE IT TO BETTER ADVANTAGE. MM-HMM . UM, WHEN PEOPLE GO ON THE WEBSITE TOO, [00:50:13] CHANGE IN HOLLAND CITY, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE TREATED WITH THE BEST TALENT RIGHT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, GAME AND, UH, THE CLEANING UP ON THE LI CABINETS, WE WERE TASKED WITH THAT. THE . YEAH, IT IS. IT IS. THE PUBLIC WORKS. LITTLE WORKS BECAUSE WE DO THAT. PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE THAT, TO BE HONEST ON THE I KNOW, BUT I THINK HERE'S THE THING THAT I WAS JUST SUPPORTED, BUT IT'S TRUE. RIGHT. BUT HERE'S THE THING. I, WE'RE ALL, EVERYBODY'S FOR CLEAN SIDEWALKS. CLEAN STREETS, QUEEN, WE ALL, YOU KNOW, WE ALL APPRECIATE . HOWEVER, UM, WHEN THE GENTLEMAN IN PUBLIC WORKS CAME AND SAID THERE WAS THAT THEY HAD DONE LAST YEAR, 1,500 CLEANUPS. IT IT IT IS, IT IS LIKE THE HYGIENE KIT. RIGHT. YOU'RE DEALING WITH A SYMPTOM. YEAH. UNSANITARY UN GENIC CONDITION ON STREET IS A SYMPTOM OF HOMELESSNESS. THAT THING GETS SOLVED BY PICKING UP TRASH. I PUT UP TRASH ALL THE TIME. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. SO YES, WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THE CLEAN TEAM OUT THERE. HOWEVER, WE NEED TO CHANGE THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT AND NOT REQUIRE 4,500 CLEANUPS. AND THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. YEAH. YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, HOW MANY DAYS A YEAR ARE YOU? HAVE I, LAST WEEK I KNOW FOR SURE WE'VE BEEN DOWN TO LONG BEACH. THE QUEEN TEAM CAME EVERY DAY. MONDAYS THROUGH THE FRIDAY. AND UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE SHOWER PROGRAM ON SATURDAY. IT IS, IT IS, IT IS THE WAY IT IS. I WELL, WHERE DID THE TENTS COME FROM? THEY TAKE THEM AWAY AND THEN SOMEHOW THEY GET TARIN TEMP CARE EVERY DAY. THEY TOOK AWAY THEIR TENTS EVERY DAY LAST WEEK THEY TOOK, THEY THREW AWAY ALL THEIR TENTS. YEAH. AND THEY STILL MANAGED TO GET TARIN. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY COULD, I DON DON'T BELIEVE ANY 10, 30%. I KNOW. I KNOW. MY FRIENDS ARE CATHOLIC CHARITIES DOING HOW TENSE. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW . UM, IT'S SORT OF MAKESHIFT NOW, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE NEED TO, IT'S A, SHE, I DON'T KNOW. I'M LOOKING UP. SEE, I DON'T, I SAY, SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING WITH THAT TOO, THAT THE PEOPLE ON SKID ROW, THAT'S WHERE I SPEND MY TIME WORKING. YEAH. A LOT. DISABILITY. NO. GET FULL SEXUAL SECURITY. REMEMBER, THEY HAVE NO EXPENSES. MEALS ARE FREE ADMISSION, SPEED. THE SHELTERS DO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEY BUY THEIR DETECTIVE. YEAH. AND YOU CAN GET A BUMP IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE IN ACCORDING CARE AND YOU'RE ONLY GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT. SAY YOUR HOMELESS IS A BUMP THAT YOU CAN YEAH. IT'S A MINIMUM. YEAH. OKAY. WELL ANYWAY. I KNOW, BUT YOU'RE FINDING ALL THAT, THAT UH, GETTING BACK TO WHAT WE'VE CAN DO IN THE THERE SPEND IT, I MEAN YEAH. GREAT. BE OFFERING US AND UM, WE NEED TO KEEP THIS ROLLING. SO NEXT WEEK YOU'RE GONNA BE AT THE MEETING NEXT WEEK? I, I'M GOING TO TIME. I WILL NOT, WELL NEED TO. YEAH. SO YOU ALL NEED TO DISCUSS THIS. OKAY. OKAY. THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, ADDING A DONATION BOX TO THE GRAND PRI FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, PERHAPS IT COULD HELP US WITH YEAH. BE ON THAT SHEET. OKAY. THAT WE YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. AND MY ALREADY HAS, WE USED TO HAVE A PARKING THEATER THAT WE DESIGNATED TO THIS. SO WE USED TO HAVE A HOUSE AT THE LONG BEACH SHERIFF AIRPORT. MM-HMM . I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THOSE TWO THINGS. SO I CHECKED ON THE LONG BEACH, UM, AIR FOR ONE. BUT THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE $20 IN THERE. AWESOME. UM, AND I, IT'S, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO EVEN GET TO THAT MONEY. SO. YEAH. SO I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WAS THE LAST PERSON THAT WENT TO GET DONATIONS. 'CAUSE IT WAS PRIOR TO COVID, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE PARKING METER TOO. THE PARKING METER. I BELIEVE THEY NO LONGER DO THAT. I DID CHECK ON THAT. BUT THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT RUN THE METERS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT PROGRAM THAT WAS, [00:55:01] SO. OKAY. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO SIX. UH, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO, CAN WE JUST GET A MOTION? FOUR FIVE. FIVE. YEAH. ASK ONE QUICK FOR LAST QUESTION ON FIVE. HAS THERE EVER BEEN, YOU KNOW, USING SOCIAL MEDIA A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE YOU'RE PROMOTING SOMETHING, UH, YOU GUYS WENT WITH CHARISMA OR CHARISMA OR SOME TYPE OF, UH, EVENT. LIKE MY WIFE DOES THAT DANCE FOR OUR STARS THAT BOUGHT FROM WORLD, THEY RAISE CLOSE TO LIKE 300,000. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. UH, BUT IT DUST JUST KEEPS THAT EVENT GOES ON. YOU KNOW, TIKTOK AND PEOPLE SEE IT. IT'S HARD STORIES GO OUT AND IT JUST CREATES LIKE MOVEMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE MOVEMENT. UH, IT IS REALLY JUST, THEY'RE ALMOST ALL, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE THEM STUFF AND THEN PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DONATE. HAVE THOSE PROJECTS FOR THAT WE COULD REALLY RUN WITH THAT. RIGHT. AND PEOPLE COULD PHYSICALLY SEE, OH MY GOSH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PLACE FOR SENIORS. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. 14 YEARS. YEAH. START AND THIS ONE, VERY HONEST. THAT IS A PARTICULARLY APPEALING BOOK. YES, IT IS. SO FAMILIES . YEAH. OKAY. WE'VE DONE SO, UM, SO YOU JUST NEED A, BUT NO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO FILED MOTION TO STATUTE. SO, UH, SO SECOND, ALL FAVOR A AYE. MOTION PASS. OKAY. NUMBER SIX IS RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS INCLUDING FUTURE IN THAT I WOULD SAY CONTINUING DISCUSSION OF WHAT ABOUT TODAY? YEAH, I THINK WE, ANY MORE PROGRESS? WE HAVE A LONG TIME. YEAH, A LONG TIME. SO LESS, MORE. MR. PARDON? WELL, YOU, YOU CAN ADJOURN NOW. OKAY. YOU THAT WOULD, WE COULD TALK ABOUT SHARING. UM, WHAT DO I HAVE? UM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.