* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:44] GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING, UH, FOR JULY 29TH, 2025. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE [ROLL CALL] CALL FOR THE ROLE. COMMISSIONER BODAK PRESENT, COMMISSIONER HUNTER, COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ PRESENT, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PIZO, UH, PRESENT, COMMISSIONER PRYOR, VICE CHAIR GFI PRESENT, UH, CHAIR WAN PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD. COMMISSIONER PRYOR IS EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING TONIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. MAY I HAVE A VOLUNTEER COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ TO LEAD THE FLAG SALUTE? IF YOU WOULD REMOVE YOUR HAT, PLEASE AND STAND. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW HAVE SWEARING OF THE WITNESSES. IT IS NOW TIME. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU SHALL GIVE IN THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING SHALL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU [1. 25-55938 Recommendation to receive and file Director’s Report.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT MAY HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM. THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PSO AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR, UH, GR GRIS. I WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO THE STAFF FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. HOPE YOU'RE ALL HAVING, UM, A GOOD SUMMER. IT HAS BEEN A BUSY SUMMER HERE IN THE WORLD OF PLANNING, UM, INCLUDING AS WE NAVIGATE SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES UNDER STATE LAW RELATED TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT OR CQA AND NEW, UM, STREAMLINING PROVISIONS UNDER THOSE RULES THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY ON JUNE 30TH. UM, THAT DOES CHANGE OUR PROCESS AND TIMELINE FOR HOW WE, UH, PROCESS HOUSING PROJECTS. UM, THERE ARE SOME IMPACTS, UM, ON THE HISTORIC SIDE AS WELL. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE THOSE, WE'LL BE SHARING OUT, UM, WITH THIS BODY AND CONTINUING TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO APPLICANTS AND THE PUBLIC HERE LOCALLY. OUR PROPOSED, UH, CITY BUDGET IS ALSO OUT, UM, AND THE CITY, UM, IS, IS NAVIGATING THAT PROCESS. IT DOES LOOK LIKE, UH, THESE CHAMBERS WILL BE NEEDED FOR, FOR A SPECIAL MEETING RELATED TO THE BUDGET NEXT MONTH. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR OUR AUGUST MEETING, AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH, UM, ABOUT THAT AS WE FIGURE THOSE DETAILS OUT. I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT OUR NEW ENVIRONMENTAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES OFFICER STARTS ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. WE'RE DELIGHTED, UM, TO BRING SOMEONE INTO THIS NEW POSITION. UM, UH, OUR NEW, UH, APPOINTEE HAS, UH, EXPERIENCE RUNNING THE CITY OF ORANGE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS, AS WELL AS EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO INTRODUCING YOU TO HER AT OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING. UM, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR SENIOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNER, ALEJANDRO PLACENCIA, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NAVY TRUST BOARD. UM, THANK YOU ALLISON. UM, YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE, UH, REASONABLY RECENTLY BEEN NOTIFIED BY THE, UH, BOARD OF THE NAVY TRUST THAT, UH, THERE IS AN OPENING, UH, ON THEIR BOARD. UH, THE, THE COMMISSION WILL RECALL THAT THE NAVY [00:05:01] TRUST, UH, IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION DIRECTLY TIED TO THIS COMMISSION. UH, THIS COMMISSION MAKES THREE APPOINTMENTS, UH, TO THAT PARTICULAR BOARD. UH, THE, UH, PERSON THAT WAS CURRENTLY IN THAT POSITION HAS, UH, DECIDED TO STEP DOWN. AND SO WE WANTED TO JUST NOTIFY THE, THIS COMMISSION HERE AND, UH, MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THERE IS AN OPENING ON THE, UH, NAVY TRUST, UH, SO THAT IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, THEY CAN REACH OUT. UH, AND UH, WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE IT, UM, EITHER AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING OR, OR SOMETIME THERE SHORTLY AFTER. EXACTLY. SO THERE WILL BE SORT OF A NOMINATION PROCESS FOR AN APPOINTEE. THIS BOARD DOES GET TO APPOINT, I BELIEVE IT'S THREE MEMBERS TO THE NAVY TRUST BOARD, TWO OF WHICH ARE CURRENTLY FILLED. UM, SO WE WILL GO THROUGH, UM, A NOMINATION PROCESS AND THEN A VOTING PROCESS, UH, BY THIS BOARD, UM, THAT WE'LL BRING FORWARD TO YOU MORE FORMALLY IN THE FUTURE. BUT GIVEN THE RECENT, UM, NOTIFICATION WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, THAT THERE IS A, A VACANCY, WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU AND THE PUBLIC AWARE OF THAT SO FOLKS CAN BEGIN THINKING ABOUT IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING, UH, THIS IMPORTANT BODY. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING DIRECTOR'S REPORT? IF NONE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK PETER DEVEREAUX, WHO IS RETIRING AS THE NAVY TROUGHS THE POSITION WITH THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION. HE SERVED FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND DID A TERRIFIC JOB. THANK YOU, PETER. NOW WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF THERE IS NONE VIRTUALLY. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE AT IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE. NOW. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO ONE ONLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT COMMISSIONER HUNTER HAS JOINED THE COMMISSION. NOTED. THANK YOU. AND AT THIS TIME, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER TWO [2. 25-55939 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Cultural Heritage Commission meeting of Tuesday, May 27, 2025.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, MAY 27TH, 2025. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? AND A SECOND. THE MOTION HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BODAK AND COMMISSIONER HUNTER. COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE, UH, AT THIS TIME COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES OF THE PAST MEETING? MAY 27TH, 2025. IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, MAY 27TH. IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. AND IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE. NOW. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER THREE. ITEM NUMBER [3. 25-55940 Recommendation to approve a Major Certificate of Appropriateness request to construct a one-story 822-square-foot addition to the rear of the main residence and located on the rear half of the lot. The property is located at 2081 Eucalyptus Avenue, within the Wrigley Historic District and the existing primary residence is a Contributing Structure to the district and in the R-1-N Zoning District. (District 7)       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.  ] THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A MAJOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A ONE STORY 820 2822 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE MAIN RESIDENCE AND LOCATED ON THE REAR HALF OF THE LOT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2 0 8 1 EUCALYPTUS AVENUE WITHIN THE WRIGLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THE EXISTING PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO THE DISTRICT AND IN THE R DASH ONE DASH [00:10:01] N ZONING DISTRICT, DISTRICT SEVEN. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PADILLA. UH, NO. COMMISSIONER PIZO AND COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ. MAY I HAVE THE PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. PROJECT PLANNER REFUGIO TORRES CAMPOS WILL PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION. UH, THANK YOU ALISON. GOOD EVENING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BEFORE YOU, A MAJOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A ONE STORY ADDITION TO THE REAR OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AT 2081 EUCALYPTUS AVENUE BETWEEN WEST 20TH STREET TO THE SOUTH AND WEST 21ST STREET TO THE NORTH. THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE R ONE N SONY DISTRICT, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SONY, AND WITHIN THE WRIGLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE LOT SIZE IS 6,375 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A ONE STORY 1,196 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND A DETACHED 224 SQUARE FOOT ONE CAR GARAGE. THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED IN 1928 IN A SPANISH COLONIAL REVIVAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. THE PROPERTY HAS AN EXISTING FRONT RIBBON DRIVEWAY AND IT'S ADJACENT TO AN ALLEY ON THE REAR. THE PHOTOGRAPH HERE SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE MAIN RESIDENCE FROM THE FRONT. THE EXTERIOR CLADDING OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND DETACHED GARAGE CONSISTS OF A LIGHT TR STUCCO FINISH AND PAINT AND PAINTED A LIGHT. BE COLOR. THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING FACING EUCALYPTUS AVENUE IS THIS SIGN WITH THE FLAT ROOF WITH TWO LARGE WOOD FIXED WINDOWS. MISSION CLAY TILE COPING, FRONT ENTRY, CONCRETE STEPS, WING, WALL, SIDE YARD ENTRANCE AND FRONT FACING RIBBON DRIVEWAY. THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS WELL PRESERVED AND RETAINS MOST OF ITS ORIGINAL CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES, UH, THIS IS A VIEW, UH, FROM THE REAR OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WHICH IS ON THE WEST ELEVATION. UH, THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE REAR AND SOUTH ELEVATION FACING THE RIBBON DRIVEWAY, AND THIS SHOWS THE REAR AND THE NORTH ELEVATION ON THE NORTH SIDE. THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK IS A ONE STORY 822 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE EXISTING MAIN RESIDENCE TO INCLUDE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AND REMOVAL OF A 162 SQUARE FOOT ON PERMITTED ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE GARAGE. THE NEW ADDITION ALSO INCLUDES A NEW 137 SQUARE FOOT SIDE DECK AREA, UH, FACING, UH, THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE PROJECT MEETS ALL SETBACK, HEIGHT, LIMITS, LOCK COVERAGE, OPEN SPACE, ALLOWABLE UNIT NUMBERS, AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THE REFERENCE TABLE HERE IS ALSO ON THE STAFF REPORT AND ON THE FINDINGS, UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE PROPOSED 820, UH, 822 SQUARE FOOT EDITION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THE PROPOSED 137 SQUARE FOOT DECK AREA WITH STEPS IS SHOWN IN RED. THAT DEMOLITION OF THE UNPERMITTED GARAGE ADDITION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN. THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL MATCH THE EXISTING FIVE FOOT SETBACK FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH, BUT WILL INCLUDE A STUCCO SCORE LINE WHERE THE ADDITION STARS TO DISTINGUISH EXISTING FROM NEW. THIS IS ALSO REFLECTED IN CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 17 FROM THE SOUTH SIDE FACING THE DRIVEWAY AND GARAGE. THE ADDITION WILL HAVE A GREATER SETBACK THAN THE EXISTING RESIDENCE BY NINE FEET, NINE INCHES, WHICH IS ALSO, UH, WHICH WILL ALSO HELP DISTINGUISH EXISTING FROM NEW IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARD STANDARD NUMBER NINE AND TO FURTHER DELINEATE THE ORIGINAL FROM NEW. THE ADDITION AREA WILL ALSO INCLUDE A SMOOTH STUCCO FINISH. THE PROPOSED PROJECT RESULTS IN AN ADDITION THAT WILL NOT BE VISIBLE WHEN VIEWED FROM [00:15:01] EUCALYPTUS AVENUE AND IS DISTINGUISHED FROM ORIGINAL WHEN VIEWED FROM BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN. APPROXIMATELY 430 SQUARE FEET OF THE EXISTING INTERIOR FLOOR PLAN WILL BE REMODELED TO CONNECT TO THE PROPOSED 822 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THE ADDITION WILL CONSIST OF A NEW HALF RESTROOM LAUNDRY ROOM, NEW MASTER BEDROOM, UH, WITH FOOD, BATHROOM, AND WALK-IN CLOSET AND COMMON AREAS SUCH AS LIVING ROOM AND DINING AREA. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION. NO WORK IS PROPOSED TO THE FRONT AND THE PROPOSED WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM EUCALYPTUS AVENUE SINCE IT WILL BE ENTIRELY SCREENED FROM VIEW BY THE MAIN RESIDENCE WITH A MATCHING HEIGHT OF 13 FEET AND FOUR INCHES. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED REAR ELEVATION. THE NEW ADDITION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE AND THE NEW DECK IN RED. THERE WILL BE NO NEW WINDOW OPENINGS FACING THE REAR OR EXISTING WINDOWS ON THE REAR WILL BE PRESERVED. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SOUTH ELEVATION FACING THE DRIVEWAY SIDE. THE ADDITION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THE ORIGINAL BUILDING HAS A VARIETY OF WOOD WINDOWS AND A FIX AWNING, CASEMENT, AND SINGLE H TYPES. THE NEW ADDITION WILL INCLUDE TWO NEW WOOD WINDOWS IN A CASEMENT AND ING TYPES, ONE WOOD DOOR AND A NEW SLIDING FOLDING DOOR. CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER EIGHT WILL ENSURE ALL NEW WINDOWS MATCH EXISTING IN TERMS OF WINDOW TRIMS COMPATIBLE TYPES AND MATERIALS. THE NORTH ELEVATION WILL RELOCATE AN EXISTING SIDE DOOR ENTRANCE TO THE NEW LOCATION SHOWN IN RED. AND AS PART OF THE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, A NEW WINDOW OPENING IS PROPOSED, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN. THE NEW ADDITION IS SHOWN IN BLUE. THE NEW ADDITION WILL INCLUDE A NEW CASEMENT WINDOW AND TWO AWNING WINDOWS. THE SIDE ELEVATION ALSO SHOWS NEW CIRCULAR TILE EVENTS TO MATCH THE EXISTING CIRCULAR TILE EVENTS CURRENTLY ON THE BUILDING AS DESIGNED, THE PROPOSED PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE SONY CODE, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ORDINANCE, THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, THE SPANISH COLONIAL REVIVAL STYLE GUIDE, AND THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FINDINGS. AS OF TODAY, STAFF HAS RECEIVED TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT WITH THE AFFIRMATION FINDINGS, WHICH ARE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE COMMISSION, IS THE APPLICANT HERE OR VIRTUAL OR A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT? AND, AND IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PRESENTATION JUST, JUST COMPLETED, IT APPEARS THERE MAY NOT BE A REPRESENTATIVE WITH US RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT FUO MENTIONED HE DID, UM, GO OVER THE REPORT WITH THEM AND THEY DID NOT HAVE, UM, OBJECTIONS AS, UM, CONDITIONED. I DO ACTUALLY SEE A HAND RAISED ON, ON ZOOM IF WE COULD CONFIRM IT'S YES. UM, COULD WE CLARIFY IF, UM, THE PERSON WHOSE HAND IS RAISED ON ZOOM IS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT? HELLO, IVAN, ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT? IVAN? I'M UNMUTE. IVAN, ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT? IVAN, YOU MAY NEED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF ON YOUR END. I'M COMING. HELLO, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES. YES. OH, HOW ARE YOU GUYS? I'M SORRY. HOW ARE YOU GUYS ON MUTE, BUT YES, I AM THE CONTRACTOR REPRESENTING THE, THE HOMEOWNERS. I, IVAN, WE JUST WANNA FIRST OF ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THE APPLICANT AND FOR THE, THE, THE NEW DREAM [00:20:01] VISION OF THEIR HOME. BUT, UH, DID YOU HEAR THE, UH, UH, PRESENTATION AND DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UH, DISCUSS THIS FURTHER? NO, THAT WAS ABOUT IT. I WAS HERE. I LISTENED TO EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WAS ACCURATELY AND IS JUST AN ADDITION FOR THE, FOR THE GROWING FAMILY OF MY CLIENT. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL IT'S ABOUT. WELL GIVE US OUR BEST TO THE TAKAMOTO FAMILY. AND NOW I'D LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK BEHIND THE RAIL. UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION? UH, COMMISSIONER PIZZA? YES. UM, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK ONE. UM, THANK YOU REFUGIO, THAT WAS, UH, A CLEAR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT AND I APPRECIATE THE COLOR CODING OF THE ELEVATIONS AND WHAT'S NEW AND EXISTING. UM, IT'S VERY HELPFUL. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND IT DOES HELP. UM, I'M ASSUMING BASED ON THE WINDOW SCHEDULE THAT ALL THE WOOD, ALL THE NEW WINDOWS ARE WOOD. AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUDING THE ONE IN THE SHOWER, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, YES. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, , I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PIZO. UH, COMMISSIONER GFI, CAN WE GO TO THE SITE PLAN, THE COLORED SITE PLAN? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. RIGHT THERE. UM, SO I, I HEARD THAT THE FRONT, YOU CAN'T SEE THE ADDITION FROM THE FRONT ELEVATION OR FROM THE STREET. UM, BUT IT, OH, OKAY. NEVERMIND. IT, IT SAID IT'S A DIMENSION LINE THAT I'M SEEING THERE. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A SEPARATE SPACE. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFY FOR THAT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GFI. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS PROJECT? I, I HAVE ONE OTHER THING NOW. NOW CAN WE GO TO THE COMMISSIONER GFI AGAIN? I MEAN, VICE CHAIR GFI. CAN WE GO TO THE, UM, ELEVATION, THE NEW ELEVATIONS? CAN WE KEEP GOING? OKAY. UH, OKAY. HOLD IT THERE. SO THAT THE NEW WINDOW AT THE BACK WITH THE MULLIONS ON IT IS TO MATCH THE, THE FRONT WINDOW IN STYLE AND, UH, IN PATTERN. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU VICE CHAIR GROFF. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE NOW. AND IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. DEAR, APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, UH, THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. I MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM. ITEM NUMBER [4. 25-55941 Recommendation to request City Council designate 149 Siena Drive (HLM25-01) as Historic Landmark building; and  Request City Council approve Mills Act contracts for the following 13 properties: 149 Siena Drive, 210 East Ocean Boulevard, 256 Lindero Avenue, 304 and 306 Molino Avenue, 622 and 624 Orizaba Avenue, 807 Ohio Avenue, 2070 Eucalyptus Avenue, 2715 East 3rd Street, 3014 East 2nd Street, 3361 and 3363 East 1st Street, 3543 Myrtle Avenue, 3727 Gundry Avenue, and 3917 Long Beach Boulevard. (Districts 1, 2, 3, 5, and 7)       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FOUR IS A RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST CITY COUNCIL DESIGNATE 1 49 SIENNA DRIVE. AS HISTORIC LANDMARK BUILDING AND REQUEST, CITY COUNCIL APPROVE MILLS EX CONTRACTS FOR THE FOLLOWING 13 PROPERTIES. 1 4 9 SIENNA DRIVE, TWO 10 EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, 2 5 6 LANDERO AVENUE, 3 0 4 AND 3 0 6 MOLINA AVENUE, 6 2 2 AND 6 2 4 ZAA AVENUE, 8 0 7 OHIO AVENUE, 27 EUCALYPTUS AVENUE, 27 15 EAST THIRD STREET, 30 14 EAST SECOND STREET, 3 3 6 1 AND 3 3 6 3 EAST FIRST STREET, 35 43 MYRTLE AVENUE, 37 27 GUNDRY AVENUE, AND 39 17 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD DISTRICTS 1, 2, 3, 5, AND SEVEN. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR THIS ITEM? [00:25:01] THE MOTION HAS MOVED AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ AND VICE CHAIR, UH, GR. MAY WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION? THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE BACK, UH, THIS YEAR FOR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADD 13 NEW PROPERTIES TO OUR MILLS ACT PROGRAM HERE IN 2025. UM, AND PLANNER, GINA CASILLAS, UH, MANAGES THAT EFFORT AND WILL PROVIDE THE STAFF PRESENTATION. UH, GOOD EVENING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. UH, THIS ITEM IS A REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE MILLS ACT APPLICATIONS FOR 2025 AND A LANDMARK NOMINATION. UM, AS BACKGROUND FOR THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM. UM, MILLS ACT PROGRAM IS A CONTRACT THAT PROVIDES A PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR REHABILITATION, UH, AND MAINTENANCE OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES. LONG BEACH'S MILLS ACT PROGRAM WAS ENACTED IN 1993. THE PROGRAM WENT DORMANT BETWEEN, UM, 2006, UH, AND 2014. AND DURING 2014, BOTH THE, UH, CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION AND THE CO CITY COUNCIL, UM, ACTED TO RESUME TO ACCEPT NEW MEALS ACT APPLICATIONS. UH, THE PROGRAM RESUMED IN 2016 AND CONTINUED THROUGH 2020. HOWEVER, DUE TO COVID, THE PROGRAM WAS PAUSED IN THE YEAR 2021 AND 2022, UH, FOR THIS YEAR'S APPLICATION OUTREACH. UH, WE, UM, SENT DIRECT MAILERS TO, UM, ALL LANDMARK AND HISTORIC DISTRICT PROPERTY OWNERS AND TENANTS. WE SENT OUT PRESS RELEASES, EMAIL BLASTS WE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND, UH, WE DID LOCAL MEDIA ADVERTISING. UM, WE CREATED SPECIALIZED WEBSITE AND APPLICATION GUIDE THIS YEAR, AND WE HELD TWO INFORMAL WORKSHOPS. UH, THE FIRST MEETING WAS AN IN-PERSON MEETING, UM, AND WAS HELD VIRTUALLY. IT WAS IN PERSON AT THE JENNY ZA COMMUNITY CENTER, AND WE ALSO HELD IT VIRTUALLY. AND THE SECOND MEETING WAS HELD ENTIRELY VIRTUALLY. UM, AND THE FIRST MEETING WAS RECORDED AND UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE, WHICH ALLOWED FOR SELF-CERTIFICATION FOR, UM, ANY OWNERS THAT HAD MISSED THE TWO WORKSHOPS. UH, FOR THE MILLS ACT, UH, PROGRAM, WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTS WE CAN AWARD EACH YEAR. UH, WE LIMIT, UH, BY PROPERTY TYPE. UM, SO FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ONE DWELLING UNIT, WE LIMIT TO 12, UM, CONTRACTS FOR DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX, WE LIMIT TO A MAXIMUM THREE CONTRACTS FOR MULTI-FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE. A RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL PROJECT, UH, WE LIMIT TO UP TO FOUR CONTRACTS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, OR INSTITUTIONAL. WE WOULD LIMIT TO, UM, ONE CONTRACT. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE CATEGORY THAT WE CALL IT. UH, OUR EXCEPTIONAL PROPERTIES ARE CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT RISK OF DEMOLITION, AND WE CAN APPROVE UP TO TWO CONTRACTS FOR THAT CATEGORY. FOR THIS YEAR'S VALUATION. UM, THERE IS A, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNT, UH, VALUATION LIMIT. AND, UH, FOR EACH CATEGORY, FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, IT WAS A MILLION, UH, 1.6. FOR THE DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX, IT WAS VALUED AT, UH, NOT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, THERE'S NO VALUATION LIMIT. AND FOR A NON-RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, OR INSTITUTIONAL, THE VALUATION IS, UH, UM, NOT MORE THAN, UH, 4.3. AND FOR AN ALL PROPERTIES TYPE, THIS IS THE EXCEPTIONAL PROPERTIES CATEGORY. THERE IS NO VALUATION LIMIT. SO FOR THIS YEAR'S APPLICATION SUBMITTALS, WE RECEIVED 10 APPLICATIONS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY FOUR APPLICATIONS FROM THE DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY. WE RECEIVED NO CA UH, APPLICATIONS FOR A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE CATEGORY. WE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS FOR THE NON-RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS INCLUDES THE COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL OR INSTITUTIONAL. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FOR THE EXCEPTIONAL CATEGORY. UH, IN TOTAL WE RECEIVED, UH, 17 APPLICATIONS FOR [00:30:01] THE MILLS ACT. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, PLANNING STAFF RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS REQUEST REQUESTING LANDMARK DESIGNATION, ALONG WITH THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM APPLICATIONS. SO IN TERMS OF APPLICATION STATISTICS, UM, THE FIRST TABLE, UM, UM, HIGHLIGHTS APPLICATIONS RECEIVED BY HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO OUT OF THE 17 APPLICATIONS RECEIVED, WE RECEIVED 14 APPLICATIONS FROM PROPERTIES LOCATED IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS OF THE 18 HISTORIC DISTRICTS. WE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FROM PROPERTIES IN SIX OUT OF THE 18 HISTORIC DISTRICTS WITH BLUFF HEIGHTS AND CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS DISTRICT, HISTORIC DISTRICT RECEIVING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS. WE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FROM FIVE OUTTA THE NINE COUNCIL DISTRICTS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. MOST OF THE APPLICATIONS FILED WERE PROPERTY OWNERS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. AND COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO INCLUDES FIVE HISTORIC DISTRICTS WITH THE LARGEST ONES BEING BLUFF PARK AND BLUFF HEIGHTS. AND COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE INCLUDES CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE LARGEST HISTORIC DISTRICT NEAR LONG BEACH. SO WE, WE RECEIVED TWO APPLICATIONS FROM EXISTING LANDMARK PROPERTIES, THE BREAKERS, HOTEL AND FIRE STATION. NUMBER NINE, WE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS THAT INCLUDED NEW LANDMARK REQUEST, 1 49 SIENNA DRIVE, 33 61 AND 33 63 EAST FIRST STREET, AND 27 42 EAST FOURTH STREET. WE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS FROM PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NINE APPLICATIONS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, AND FOUR FROM THE DUPLEX TRIPLEX CATEGORY. OF THE 17 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING 13 FORWARD. WE'RE RECOMMENDING EIGHT IN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY THREE IN THE DUPLEX TRIPLEX CATEGORY, AND TWO IN THE NON-RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY. THE NEXT SLIDES WILL OUTLINE THE 13 PROPERTIES OF THE 13TH PROPERTIES. THE WORK PLANS INCLUDED SUBSTANTIAL EXTERIOR, UH, RESTORATIONS, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING SYSTEM UPGRADES AND FOUNDATION REPAIRS. THE WORK PLANS ARE ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT C IN YOUR PACKETS. THE FIRST, FIRST PROPERTY IS 1 49 SIENNA DRIVE. THIS IS A, UH, SPANISH COLONIAL BUILT IN 1930. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BREAKERS HOTEL, UH, TWO 10 EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. IT WAS BUILT IN 19 25, 2 56 ERO AVENUE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1912, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND 3 0 4 AND 3 0 6 MOLINO AVENUE. IT'S, IT'S A DUPLEX, AND IT WAS BUILT IN 19 23, 6 22, AND 6 24 ZAA AVENUE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1923. IT'S A DUPLEX 8 0 2 OHIO AVENUE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1911. IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 2070 EUCALYPTUS AVENUE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1929. IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, 27 15 EAST THIRD STREET. IT WAS BUILT IN 1916, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 30 14 EAST SECOND STREET. IT WAS BUILT IN 1912, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND 33 61 AND 33 63 EAST FIRST STREET. IT WAS BUILT IN 1920 AND IT'S CURRENTLY A DUPLEX 35 43 MYRTLE AVENUE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1925, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND 37 27 GUNDRY AVENUE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1930, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. LASTLY, 39 37 19 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD. THIS IS FIRE STATION NUMBER NINE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1938 OUT OF THE 17 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, FOUR APPLICATIONS WERE NOT SELECTED FOR THIS YEAR'S CYCLE. UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS 37 25 LYME AVENUE. UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION WAS ALREADY UNDERWAY, UH, WHICH INCLUDED SOME MAJOR SYSTEM UPGRADES AND, AND, AND SIGNIFICANT EXTERIOR RESTORATION. UM, MOST OF THE WORK PLANT ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED IN [00:35:01] THEIR APPLICATION WERE ACTUALLY BEING CURRENTLY, UM, COMPLETED AND UNDER THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM. UH, THE WORK PACK WORK PLAN ITEMS NEED TO BE COMPLETED, UM, ONCE THE CONTRACT IS LIVE. UH, THE NEXT, UM, PROPERTY IS 35 96 GUNDRY AVENUE. UM, THIS PROPERTY HAD ALREADY UNDERGONE MAJOR SYSTEM, UM, UPGRADES, UM, AND THE WORK PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE ANY NEW RESTORATION OR PRESERVATION ITEMS. UH, THE THIRD ADDRESS IS 27 42 EAST FORT ST. FOURTH STREET. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT NEEDS LANDMARK DESIGNATION TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT. UM, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A LANDMARK NOMINATION APPLICATION, BUT DID NOT INCLUDE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION TO SUPPORT THE NOMINATION WITHOUT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION SUPPORTING DOCUMENT, STAFF IS UNABLE TOTER TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY'S ELIGIBLE FOR LANDMARKING. UM, AS A RESULT, IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A MILLS OUT CONTRACT. AND THE FINAL ADDRESS, 37 33 AND 37 33 A CALIFORNIA AVENUE. UM, THE FRONT DWELLING PORCH SYSTEM AND THE ROOF SHAPE HAD BEEN ALTERED SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE PAST. AND, UH, THE MILK MILLS ACT PROGRAM PRIORITIZES RESTORATION OF INAPPROPRIATE MODIFICATIONS. HOWEVER, THE WORK PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE A RESTORATION OF THE ROOF OR THE, OR THE PORCH BACK TO ORIGINAL, AND THEREFORE, THE PROPOSAL DID NOT MEET THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM INTENT. SO, UH, TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION, A CULTURAL RESOURCE MUST MAINTAIN, UH, OR RETAIN INTEGRITY AND MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA. UM, IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENTS THAT HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF THE CITY'S HISTORY. IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIVES OF PERSONS SIGNIFICANT IN THE CITY'S PAST. IT EMBODIES THE DISTINCT CHARACTERISTICS OF A TYPE PERIOD METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION, OR IT REPRESENTS THE WORK OF A MASTER OR IT POSSESSES HIGH ARTISTIC VALUES. AND THE FINAL CRITERIA IT HAS YIELDED OR MAY LIKELY YIELD INFORMATION IMPORTANT IN PRE-HISTORY OR HISTORY. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MILLS ACT APPLICATIONS, WE RECEIVED THREE LANDMARK NOMINATIONS. THE PROPERTY ADDRESSED AS 4 1 49. SIENNA DRIVE IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC, HISTORIC DISTRICT AND DOES REQUIRE LANDMARK STATUS IN ORDER TO APPROVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT. THIS PROPERTY WAS EVALUATED AND WAS FOUND TO QUALIFY FOR LANDMARKING UNDER CRITERIA A AND C AND, UH, WILL BE DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL IN THIS PRESENTATION. THE PROPERTY ADDRESS AS 33 61 AND 33 63 EAST FIRST STREET DID NOT, IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR LANDMARK NOMINATION BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS TO MERIT LAND TO MERIT LANDSCAPE LANDMARK STATUS. HOWEVER, IT IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING LOCATED WITHIN BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT. THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AS 27 42 EAST FOURTH STREET SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION BUT DID NOT PROVIDE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS NEEDED TO EVALUATE FOR THE LANDMARK STATUS. SO THIS APPLICATION WAS DEEMED INCOMPLETE. SO THIS SLIDE WILL GO OVER THE, UM, LANDMARK APPLICATION AND DETAILING, UM, THE ADDRESS AT 1 49 SIENNA DRIVE. THE BUILDING IS A 1,475 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE CONSTRUCTED IN THE SPANISH COLONIAL REVIVAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE BUILT IN 1926. THE BUILDING FEATURES MANY ORIGINAL CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES. UH, IT FEATURES AN ORIGINAL SOLID MAHOGANY DOOR WITH THE CENTRAL DIAMOND SHAPED WINDOW LIKE LOCATED WITHIN A SMALL ARCHED VEGETABLE LOCATED BETWEEN BENEATH THE ROOF LINE OF THE FRONT FACING GABLE ROOF. THE FRONT ELEVATION FEATURES A LARGE SIX FOOT BY 12 FOOT WIDE MAHOGANY TRIMMED ARCHED PLATE, GRASS, GLASS WINDOW TRIMMED IN MAHOGANY WITH A FILIGREED ORNAMENTAL IRON BORDER. IT'S CENTERED BETWEEN BENEATH THE GA GABLE ROOF AND TWO SETS OF, UM, CASEMENT WINDOWS. THE REAR ELEVATION FEATURES MAHOGANY FRENCH DOORS, WHICH OPEN FROM THE DINING ROOM TO THE PATIO SET OF FOUR FRENCH DOORS. CONNECT THE SLEEPING WING GALLERY, UH, TO THE, UM, INTERIOR PATIO. THE RESIDENCE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE, THE NAPLES ISLAND NEIGHBORHOOD. [00:40:02] NAPLES ISLAND WAS ONCE MARSHLAND LOCATED WITHIN ALAMEDOS ALAMEDOS BAY AROUND 1903. ARTHUR AND PARSONS PURCHASED THE MARCH LAND FROM THE ALAMEDAS LAND COMPANY WITH PLANS TO CONVERT THE MARSH, LAND AND WATER INTO THREE ISLANDS. ARTHUR M. PARSONS BEGAN CONSTRUCTION IN AUGUST OF 1905, HOWEVER, WAS REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS WARN F MCGRATH AND MR. SAM SLR, WHO COMPLETED THE NAPLES ISLAND PROJECT. IN THE 1920S, MCGRATH AND SLR COLLABORATED WITH THE PRESS TELEGRAM THROUGH AN INNOVATIVE, INNOVATIVE ADVERTISING STRATEGY IN EFFORT TO ATTRACT INTEREST IN BUYING LAND AND LIVING ON NAPLES ISLAND. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUBJECT RESIDENCE WAS CHRONIC CHRONICLED WEEKLY IN THE PRESS TELEGRAM FROM SEPTEMBER 5TH, 1925 THROUGH FEBRUARY 26TH, 1926. THE RESIDENCE WAS NOTED KNOWN AS THE PRESS TELEGRAM MODEL HOME AT NAPLES. AND THE ARTICLES DETAILED ALL ASPECTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE FROM POURING OF THE FOUNDATION, INSTALLING THE PLUMBING TO DETAILING THE SOURCING OF MATERIALS USED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING. AND DUE TO THE POPULARITY OF THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, APPROX APPROXIMATELY 3000 VISITORS PARTICIPATED IN THE GRAND OPENING OF THE PRESS TELEGRAMS MODEL HOME. THE RESIDENCE CONTAINED SIGNIFICANT INTEGRITY TO CONVEY ITS SIGNIFICANCE UNDER THE CITY OF LONG BEACH LANDMARK CRITERIA A AND C UNDER CRITERIA A, THE PRESS TELEGRAM MODEL HOME IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AS A PROMINENT ARCHITECTURAL DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT EMBODIED THE GOALS OF THE BETTER HOMES MOVEMENT OF THE 1920S THROUGH ITS PUBLIC PROMOTION, INNOVATIVE CONSTRUCTION, AND THE SPANISH COLONIAL REVIVAL DESIGN, IT PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN SHAPING THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT, BOOSTING CIVIC PRIDE, AND ADVANCING THE NAPLES NEIGHBORHOOD AS A MODEL OF MODERN SUBURBAN PLANNING DURING A PERIOD OF RAPID EUROPE URBAN AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. UNDER CRITERIA C THE RESIN IS SIGNIFICANT AS AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE OF THE 1920 SPANISH COLONIAL REVIVAL ARCHITECTURE IN ITS RICH DETAILING, COHESIVE DESIGN AND CRAFTSMANSHIP REFLECT THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE STYLE AND CONTRIBUTE TO ITS ARCHITECTURAL AESTHETIC VALUE AS A REPRESENTATIVE WORK OF ITS PERIOD IN REGION. THE RESIDENCE HAS APPEARED A SIGNIFICANCE OF 1926, THE YEAR IT WAS COMPLETED. THE MERITS UNDER BOTH CRITERIA ARE MORELY DESCRIBED IN THE CORRESPONDING DPR FORM, UH, THAT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR, UM, PACKET. AND UNDER LANDMARK DESIGNATION, ONLY THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE PRESERVED. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION REVIEW THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS AND ACCEPT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION REQUEST FOR 1 49 SIENNA DRIVE. IF APPROVED, 1 49 SIENNA DRIVE WOULD BE KNOWN AS THE PRESS TELEGRAM MODEL HOME. AND WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE 13 ZA CONTRACTS. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK ANYONE THAT IS AN APPLICANT FOR THE MILLS ACT, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEIR PROJECT, THEIR PROPERTY. IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP TO THE PODIUM, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE BE DISCUSSING. MY NAME IS JEFF DAHLIN. UH, THIS IS MY WIFE BARBARA, AND WE'RE REPRESENT HERE REPRESENTING 1 49 SIENNA AVENUE, UH, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMISSION. UH, WE JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CITY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE, UH, PURCHASED OUR HOME LAST JUNE, JULY, LAST JULY, AND, UH, WE ACCIDENTALLY BOUGHT A FOREVER HOME. UM, WE LOVE THE CITY, WE LOVE GETTING INVOLVED. UM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A LIFELONG OF MEMORIES IN THAT HOME. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, AND THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. YES, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS. AND HOPEFULLY THE APPLICATION PROCESS WAS SEAMLESS. IT WAS WONDERFUL. GINA AND HER TEAM WERE INCREDIBLE. UM, WE HAVE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THEIR APPLICATION, IF NOT VIRTUALLY, JUST THE APPLICANTS. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD, LIKE ANY APPLICANTS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. NOW. IF DIALING IN 10 TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. APPLICANT'S ONLY, PLEASE. [00:45:03] THERE APPEARS TO BE ONE, ONE APPLICANT. LET ME GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE THEM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY. TARN, YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED. YEAH, SORRY. THIS IS, UH, JOHN BROPHY. I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE, UH, TN, UH, WE'RE REPRESENTING, UH, 3 5 4 3 MYRTLE AVENUE. UM, YEAH, WE JUST WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, BE TWO YEARS IN NOVEMBER. UM, WE, WE LOVE THE, LOVE OUR LITTLE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WE, WE REALLY LIKE THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE, UM, SORT OF TO THE, TO THE AESTHETIC AND THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND JUST WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND THANKS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A GREAT REPORT. GINA, THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANYONE VIRTUALLY HAVE ONE MORE APPLICANT, UM, BARRY JOHNSON. BARRY JOHNSON. YOU HAVE BEEN, UH, UNMUTED AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. JOHNSON, FOR THE RECORD, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY ADDRESS. HELLO, MY NAME'S BARRY JOHNSON AND I'M, UH, 3 0 4 3 0 6 MULINO, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK LOUDER INTO THE MIC? WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. IS THAT ANY, IS THAT BETTER? UH, SLIGHTLY BUT SLIGHTLY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, OKAY. I'M, UH, REPRESENTING 3 0 4 3 0 6 MULINO. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE BEEN HERE AT THIS, UH, DUPLEX FOR A YEAR, AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE AREA AND WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY BY MAINTAINING OUR PROPERTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. IT'S APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW NEW HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE MOVED INTO OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THANK YOU. UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR THE COMMISSION. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO FURTHER APPLICANTS ONLINE COMMISSIONER PERILLA PEREZ. I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, I THINK EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION IT STATED THAT 1 4 9 SIENNA DRIVE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1930, BUT I BELIEVE THE CORRECT DATE OF CONSTRUCTION IS 1926. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I WOULD JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT THE DOCUMENTATION BE UPDATED, IF IT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC RECORD, JUST SO THE DOCUMENTS ARE CONSISTENT AND IT STAYS WITHIN ITS PERIODS OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE BETTER HOMES MOVEMENT. THANK YOU. WE'LL ENSURE THAT'S CORRECT. UM, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD TO RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL PERSONS OR COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY? UH, COMMISSIONER GFI. UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, WONDER IF STAFF COULD GIVE ME SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THE WISDOM OF, UM, DISQUALIFYING A PROJECT JUST BECAUSE IT WAS COMPLETED BEFORE THE 10 YEAR PLAN. YEAH, AND I THINK, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS SOME OPTIONS IF YOU WANTED TO REVISIT THAT. I THINK STAFF, UM, WORKS THROUGH A CHECKLIST AND THE WAY THE STATE LAW, UM, THE MILLS ACT, THERE'S A REAL, UH, MR. MILLS, UM, AND, UH, THE WAY THE LAW WAS WRITTEN, IT, IT IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE A TAX ABATEMENT IN RETURN FOR THE COST OF, UM, REHABILITATING A HISTORIC PROPERTY. SO IF THE CONDITION OF IT WHEN IT COMES TO US IS, UH, PERFECT OR NEAR PERFECT, UM, IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE'S 10 YEARS OF WORK AND INVESTMENT THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IN RETURN. UM, THAT SAID, THERE'S OTHER WAYS OF INTERPRETING IT. UM, THAT MAJOR OUTLAY THAT THEY'VE MADE, UH, NEEDS TO BE PAID OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE DONE THOSE UPGRADES, THOSE NEED TO BE MAINTAINED. UH, MAYBE THEY CAN, UM, WORK ON DOING HOME TOURS OR INTERPRETATION OR SHARING KIND OF, UM, THE WONDER OF THAT PROPERTY. SO I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF DOES THEIR JOB, THEY GO THROUGH THE CHECKLIST, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS AND, AND REAL HOMES HERE. SO THERE'S, UM, OTHER WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT. THE COMMISSION COULD CHANGE THAT RECOMMENDATION. UM, ANOTHER OPTION WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS YEARS IS MAYBE IF SOMETHING, LIKE THERE WAS A PROPERTY WHERE WE WEREN'T GIVEN A LOT OF INFORMATION, WE COULD NOT APPROVE IT, BUT WE COULD STILL KEEP THEIR APPLICATION ALIVE. AND IF NEXT YEAR THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE THE MISSING INFORMATION, IT IS A COOL COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE. UM, AND THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO REAPPLY AND PAY FEES AND EVERYTHING AGAIN. AND, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT IN BETTER SHAPE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO THOSE ARE JUST, [00:50:01] UM, KINDA WHERE, WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM ON THE STAFF SIDE. THANK YOU. I, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT HOUSE, I MEAN, AND, AND WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND WHEN IT'S BEEN DONE AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO I'D BE OPEN TO THAT. VICE, VICE CHAIR GFI, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY AT 50? UH, 35 96 GUNDRY? I, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE IT IS. IT WAS THE FIRST, YEAH, IT WAS THE FIRST. OKAY. 'CAUSE THIS, THIS ALSO, THIS PROPERTY WAS DECLINED BECAUSE MAJORITY OF THE WORK WAS ALREADY COMPLETED. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING, THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, WE CAN REVISIT THAT EITHER AT THE NEXT MILLS ACT APPLICATION PROCESS, OR WE COULD INCLUDE THAT MAYBE FOR DISCUSSION AND MAYBE VOTE ON THAT, THAT THOSE TWO PROPERTIES AT THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH, THE FIRST, WELL, THE FIRST PROPERTY, UM, IN THE, IN OUR LIST, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS, BUT THE FIRST PROPERTY IN OUR LIST, IT SEEMED LIKE THE ONLY THING THAT HAPPENED THAT WAS, THAT THEY DID WRONG WAS THEY, UH, JUMPED THE GUN AND STARTED DOING THE WORK BEFORE THEY DID THE APPLICATION. IT SEEMED LIKE THE OTHER ONE, I, I'M OPEN TO CONSIDERING THAT ONE TOO, BUT, UM, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY HAD ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THESE TWO PROPERTIES MAYBE SO WE CAN, IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE THIS KIND OF THING. BECAUSE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE WE'VE SEEN WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNG COUPLES, UH, MOVING IN AND LIVING IN THOSE HOUSES AND TAKING CARE OF THOSE, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING AND I HELP IT. I, AND I THINK IT REALLY DOES A, A GOOD JOB OF HELPING TELL THE HISTORY OF THE CITY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO DO. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR GFI, UH, STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT? UH, THIS IS, UH, PLANNER PLACENCIA OVER HERE, I THINK, UM, YEAH, JUST GOING BACK TO THAT ONE. I, I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS, UH, THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY IS, UH, 37 25 LIME AVENUE. UM, SO PART OF THE WAY THE CONTRACT WORKS IS, IS THAT, UM, IT IS SET UP TO START WORK IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. UH, SO WE HAVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN 2025. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, MILLS ACT TAKES, TAKES THE FORM OF A CONTRACT, CORRECT? UH, SO THE TERM FOR THAT STARTS JANUARY 1ST, 2026. SO ALL OF THE WORK HAS TO START FROM THAT DATE, UH, FOR A LENGTH OF 10 YEARS. UH, SO THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. WHEN WE, UM, LOOK AT APPLICATIONS, UH, WE REALLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING A LOT OF THE SORT OF BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT, UH, ARE REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE FOR A HOMEOWNER TO, TO TACKLE. UH, AND SO WE FEEL, UH, MAJOR THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY BEING DONE WERE, YOU KNOW, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, I THINK FOUNDATION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AS WELL. UH, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE REALLY LOOK FOR IN THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY, THEY DID START THAT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UNLESS THEY COME BACK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A MUCH MORE ROBUST, UM, APPLICATION, UM, EXCLUDING THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT DURING OUR, OUR REVIEW PROCESS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS, UH, APPLICATION. ANY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TERM OF THE CONTRACTS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE SORT OF NEVER EXPIRING CONTRACTS AND THAT THE CONTRACTS BASICALLY RENEW FOR A NEW 10 YEAR TERM EVERY DAY, BASICALLY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO UNLESS, UM, UNLESS WE ENTER INTO A CHANGE TO THE AGREEMENT, SO BASICALLY TO CANCEL IT, UM, AT THE POINT OF CANCELLATION, THE CONTRACT WOULD END 10 YEARS LATER. SO IT DOES AUTO RENEW UNTIL, UM, BOTH PARTIES, UM, WORK TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT. SO THAT'S CORRECT, BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CANCELING SEVERAL CONTRACTS, UM, AT THE MOMENT. SO IT IS A FOREVER CONTRACT UNLESS THE CITY OR THE OTHER PARTY CANCELS IT. AND WE ARE DOING THAT IN SOME CASES WHERE THE WORK WAS COMPLETED AND THE BENEFIT WAS GIVEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT'S JUST CORRECT TO MOVE FORWARD. THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS IS THE CONTRACT MAY NOT EXPIRE, BUT THE BENEFIT MAY, SO UNDER MILLS ACT, IF YOU'RE A RECENT PURCHASER, IT CAN BE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN YOUR PROPERTY TAX. MM-HMM . UP TO ABOUT 50%. MM-HMM . UM, BUT AFTER ABOUT 15 YEARS, UM, YOUR, UM, APPRECIATION BEING CAPPED [00:55:01] AT 2% EACH YEAR UNDER PROP 13, YOUR BENEFIT UNDER PROP 13 ACTUALLY EXCEEDS YOUR BENEFIT UNDER THE MILLS ACT. SO EVEN THOUGH THE, UM, CONTRACT MAY BE STILL IN PLACE BY ABOUT YEAR 15, IF THERE'S NOT A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP, UM, THE, THE KIND OF BENEFIT IS KIND OF LOST. SO THERE'S NO LOSS TO THE CITY, UM, BUT THAT, THAT BENEFIT WOULD SORT OF REEMERGE IF THERE WAS A, A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP. OKAY. THANK YOU DIRECTOR KUNZ AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? YES, COMMISSIONER PETE, I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE WHAT, UM, VICE CHAIR GFI WAS GETTING AT. UM, WOULD THIS PROPERTY, IF IT HADN'T GONE AHEAD AND DONE THIS WORK, UM, BEEN A CONSIDERATION, I GUESS IS MY, MY BIGGER QUESTION, OR IT, IT IT IS JUST SORT OF DEAD IN THE WATER FROM THE GET-GO. IT'S NOT REALLY, IS THAT REALLY THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY SORT OF JUMPED THE GUN? YEAH, THIS IS, UH, ALEJANDRO AGAIN, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. A LOT OF THE WORK PLAN ITEMS WERE, UH, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL ONES AND JUST IF THEY HAD, UH, PREPARED TO DO IT IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, VERY LIKELY A, AN APPLICATION THAT WE COULD, UM, SUPPORT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMISSION IS SOME INTEREST. SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO, I DON'T THINK THOSE THREE CAN BE APPROVED AS IS, BUT WHAT YOU COULD DO IS TAKE ACTION TODAY ON THE ONES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED. WE CAN REVISIT WITH THOSE THREE OWNERS KIND OF THE SITUATION, UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN MEET THEM IN THE MIDDLE AND THEY CAN DO SOME MORE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEAR PERIOD. AND WE CAN ALSO REWARD, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE READY TO BE APPROVED TODAY, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH THOSE THREE. I I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT, UM, AN EQUITY ISSUE FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY STARTED WORK AND DIDN'T APPLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE PROGRAM. UNDERSTOOD. I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT OVER THE PERIOD WITH THE COVID THAT THIS PROGRAM WENT DARK AND THE OUTREACH AND THE PUBLICITY WASN'T THERE, SO SOMETIMES A HOMEOWNER MIGHT HAVE MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY, UH, NOT REALIZING THAT THESE WERE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. SO MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE THIS IS, I BELIEVE, THE SECOND YEAR THAT THE MILLS ACT HAS BEEN IN FULL OPERATION AND WE DID HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OUTREACH, UH, EARLIER WITH THE WORKSHOPS. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MAYBE WE DO HAVE AN EXCEPTION TO SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT HAVE STARTED CONSTRUCTION DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LIVING THERE AND THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE. UH, BUT AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS AGENDA ITEM? ARIA, ARE YOU ASKING FOR, UH, AN OPINION OR AN ACTION? I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS. UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT DIRECTOR KONZ HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WILL REVISIT THESE PROPERTIES. THEY WON'T BE, UH, FOR DISCUSSION TODAY BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE NOT APPROVED BY STAFF. BUT I WOULD SAY GOING FORWARD THAT WE COULD REVIEW THIS. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GONNA BE AT THE NEXT MILL CYCLE OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS AS A SECOND LINE ITEM. SO CHAIR, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS YOU TAKE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UM, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WOULD EXPECT SOMEONE, UM, WOULD MAKE A MOTION KIND OF, UM, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN OUR, OUR COMMITMENT TO YOU IS TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH. IT MAY NOT BE FOR ANOTHER ACTION, BUT WITH AT LEAST AN UPDATE, UM, REGARDING THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOT SELECTED. AND AT THAT TIME, WE CAN TELL YOU EITHER WE CAN MAKE IT WORK FOR THIS YEAR OR THIS ONE'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, AND THIS ONE'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS YEAR, AND THE THIRD ONE'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN AT ALL. I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE ANSWERS, UM, FROM THE DESK TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION, CAN WE OPEN THIS UP FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE MILLS ACT APPLICATION PROCESS, PLEASE DO SO BY STEPPING UP TO THE PODIUM. IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS LINE ITEM. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE NOW. AND IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE. NOW. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. WE'LL CLOSE THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT BRINGING YOU BACK TO THE [01:00:01] COMMISSION. WILL THERE NEED TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE TABLE AMENDED MOTION? NO. IF YOU'RE, IF THERE'S SOMEONE INTERESTED IN, UH, FURTHER DIRECTING STAFF TO REVISIT THE, UM, CONTRACTS THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, I, I WOULD SUGGEST ADDING THAT, UM, TO THE MOTION SO IT'S CLEAR. VICE CHAIR SFI, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT AN ADDITION TO THE MOTION IT NEEDS TO BE OR DO WE HAVE TO? YEAH. UH, THE COMMISSIONER PADIA PEREZ CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT PROPOSE THAT AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION AS IT STANDS NOW WE COULD DO IT FROM LINE. UH, COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSION THAT WE APPROVE THE MILLS AT CONTRACTS BEING PRESENTED AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, BUT ALSO, UM, HAVE STAFF COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND PRESENT INFORMATION ON GIVING THE OTHER THREE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, REVISE AND EXPAND TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, UM, SO THAT IT CAN BE, UH, RECONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION AND VICE CHAIR GFI, I TAKE NO EXCEPTION TO THAT AMENDMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS DISCUSSION. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION, CAN I CALL FOR THE VOTE? JUST TO CONFIRM, WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THOSE THREE TONIGHT, CORRECT? THAT IS NOT THE VOTE FOR THE THANK YOU COMMISSION. NOW MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. UH, AT THIS TIME [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Cultural Heritage Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, WE WILL TAKE NON-AGENDA ITEMS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. PLEASE LINE UP IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDIZED ITEMS, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. ANY [ANNOUNCEMENTS] ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE COMMISSION? IF THERE ARE NONE AND IF THERE ARE NO [ADJOURNMENT] OBJECTIONS, I DECLARE THE MEETING ADJOURN. GOODNIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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